/bdog/ - Black Desert Online General

>>146480917
>let the thread die edition

>>146481047
It dropped off 30 minutes from the last post, nobody saw that coming.

>>146480917
sardine

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>>146480917
Do i main my tamer or my plum lolg?
>tamers fun and cute
but
>my plum is geared, high level, and good.

>>146481507
Please.

>>146481252
memes

>>146481507
Everything about your post is rotten. This is not /lolg/, make your own goddamn decisions, and stop misusing spoilers while at it.

>>146481507
>>tamers fun
I wonder

>>146481828
>This is not /lolg/
Did you even read last thread?

>>146481828
My bad, it's hard switching game mode.
fuck you on the spoiler thing though, thats purely opinion and will be tossed in the trash where it belongs.
Tamer or plum mother fucker.
>>146481852
fun for sure, good? probably not.

>>146481949
Okay, fine, I'll give you that, there was a joke there that I missed. My bad on that one.

>>146482016
Eat a dick.

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>>146482092
pick one

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>Give players a great character creator
>Most characters are garbage.

>>146486225
90% of everything is garbage.

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>>146486360
Ok there, Sho.

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>>146486225
Most people don't really care about such detailed character customisation and would rather just play the game.

Also opinions and all that.

>>146487683
But they don't just use the default, the actively make a horrible character.

>>146487853
Opinions.

>>146487853
I see quite a lot of defaults/slightly tweaked defaults running about and I think a lot of them probably have a 'nah fuck it' moment when they realise how difficult it can be to find their way around the CC. Not everyone is prepared to put the time in.

>>146488392
Yeah all of my characters are slightly tweaked defaults lmao cc is hard

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>>146487683
There's only a few characters I like
out of the probably thousand I've seen

>>146489353
This is normal.

>>146486228
ump

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>>146492134

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>>146492552

Is it possible to get knocked off your horse in PvP? And if so, does knockdown/bound resistance affect the possiblity of getting knocked off?

>>146486225
>great character creator
what???, this is the shittiest character creator ever, just having infinite options doesn't make it good, everyone looks exactly the same or a fucking alien

>>146493349
>im bad at it so its shit

>>146493618
I didn't even post my character, don't be a retard

>>146493618
>he actually thinks the character creator is good
lol...

>>146493618
that anon isn't wrong, either everyone looks like the default character with a few slight alterations or deformed monster

sorry for telling you the truth? I'm sure your character is very nice

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Holy shit grinding is so fucking easy since this last patch. Why the fuck is Daum gutting one of the few challenges this game offers us?

>>146493740
>>146493862
>>146494057
see >>146493618

>>146494320
LOL post your character then

>>146494320
>defending BDO's character creator unironically
why

>>146494320
Did you only spend 10min in the creator, you should probs play around with it more before claiming it's good, the characters themselves look good in this game, but the sliders and options in the creator leave much more to be desired. I wish there weren't constraints on proportions, but oh well.

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>>146494320
>>>146493740 (You)
Here's your reply I guess, since you aren't actually going to actually discuss the character creator with me and instead just call me bad over and over again

pic related you may as well actually make fun of me too, now post yours pussy

>>146494307
Because they don't have a clue what they're doing.

Do people still pretend this game is alive?

>>146494320
>>146495067
WEW LAD GETTING CALLED OUT BY CATFAG

GET FUCKED ANON

>>146495067
>the only person with balls to post their character and their opinion is a fucking ERPfaggot

>>146495504
I barely ERP in BDO, the community is too bland for that, but the game is fun

>>146495067
I'll debate you friend. I'd disagree with you when you say that it's the shittiest character creator ever since that's just plain untrue. It is extremely limited, yes, but for what it is, and the genre it's in, it's pretty damn good. Really, there are AAA RPGs with worse creators than BDO.

>>146496371
I agree with that, my issue is how everyone has a similar base face

what I love most about the creator actually that I haven't seen in other games is all the different sliders for the body, I really enjoy just messing around with it from time to time and seeing what my character looks like with different proportions

>>146496526
In an ideal world, we'd have a selection of different face meshes to choose from for each class but I can understand why they didn't go that route.

I like the body sliders too but my biggest issue is the lack of a head scale slider which really limits what you can do with the body. I've been complaining about this from day one. Part of me wishes that they'd just unlock everything, remove the limitations and let people go nuts with it

>>146497331
I guess they are afraid that people will just make abominations, this game was hailed for having a great character creator and amazing looking characters before it came out, if there are just tons of screenshots of ugly ass characters because there were no limitations on the players, it might not be healthy for the games image to outsiders that might want to play it.

But at least there are mods that let you undo that stuff, so its at least optional I suppose.

Do witches have cavaro set on KR?

>>146497845
You could always make an abomination though and there are already ugly characters out there, even with the limitations. You can do some crazy shit with the eyes, nose, mouth and jaw. But sure, I know this is why they don't unlock it because you'd have people running about with no heads or stupidly small/large bodies.

>lag
>game suddenly loads me half across the ocean away, back where I was 20 mintues ago
>my boat is still in the spot where I was at the time of the lag

>>146498574
try whistling for your boat

>>146495067
And instead of ignoring him you avatarfag and reply baiting for drama. You must be bored mate.

>>146499594
Look who's baiting for drama.

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>>146499594
>drama
u wot

>>146499651
No I am not baiting for drama and this will be my last reply for that.

>>146499594
nobody wanted to see your shitty character anyway

this general is so patheric

>>146500265
wwwwwwwwwww

>>146500265
Agreed

>>146500265
is the game as dead as the general ?

>>146501915
no

>>146501915
Hardly. /vg/ just attracts the shitters and retards and thus the generals tend to be trash.

How did this game survive in Korea when they had to wait longer for Mediah and Valencia?

>>146502532
They fucking love grinding for shit.

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Can I join in?

>>146505169
would rather you didn't

>>146505169
You don't fit in at all, no space for you.

Will Daum close the IP access for the EU server for us brits?

>>146505994
UK accounts might be transfered to RU servers, theres talks happening about the decision

>>146506116
We have kuinochi too?

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>>146504647
I like your eye color, friend

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>>146506731
Your legs remind me of this.

>>146507049
probably because you're fat

>>146507239
Nah, it wasn't meant as an insult.

Last I checked in the mirror I had abs anyway.

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>>146506731
>child bearing hips

>just hit 56 on my musa
>starting to get bored of playing him
>want to remake a warrior or zerker
fug

>Wizard will be a pet/summoner class
Guess its time to reroll

>>146509073
What? That's plain wrong

>>146509319
The awakening has pets and PA literally stated that it will rely on summons. Whether you like it or not, the class will be a summoner.

Only question is if its going to be perma pets or ones that disappear after a few seconds.

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>>146508112

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>kind anon gives me his version.dat file yesterday
>finally able to play game
>after about 5hrs a message pops up
>File corrupted pls try repairing at launcher
>no option to do so
>look it up online
>most popular recc is to rename version.dat file to versionold.dat etc
>try it
>doesn't work
>search for other methods
>try those
>don't work

so at what point do I kill myself for blowing $50 on 5 hrs of waifu simulator 2016

>>146509482
>awakening has pets
Orbs aren't pets as far as I know
>PA literally stated that it will rely on summons
I'm going to need sauce on that one

>>146509661
after turning off your firewall and reinstalling the game fresh

>>146505169
>>146506731
I don't believe it's a coincidence that you slut it up so close to one another

ERP logs when

>>146509681
http://imgur.com/a/hepht
This doesnt look like Orbs to me.

>source
Then go on Inven

>>146509778
I already did that

>>146509681
http://imgur.com/zyDGRN6
http://i.imgur.com/bsd5C5I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/z442MB3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XXqREXh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hXcL4If.jpg

>>146509832
I don't think musclefu is even on the same server as I am?
At least, I thought he was on Orwen since that's where the ERP is at

>>146509960
>>146509778
>forgot about windows firewall
FUCKING BOTNET LET ME PLAY MY GAMMMEEEE

fucccckkk, alright anon I'll try again, but if it doesn't work I can kill myself right

>>146510080
definitely

>>146510310
thanks

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>>146509641
That is one healthy body right there.

>>146510080
Have you tried running the game as administrator? That alleviated all my technical issues when I first started playing.

>>146510620
yes

>>146510720
rip

>wanted to invest time into rerolling Tamer
>now Wizards/Witches might get pets
Jesus Christ, what do I roll aaaaaah

>>146510826
>Loli
or
>Caster Cavalry

Man what a hard decision

>>146509861
>>146510027
>Wizard gets a blob of lava and a nymph
>Witch gets a golem and cool lightning dude
What went wrong with wizards

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>>146510826
a qt3.14 witch

>>146510747
probably soon, also on the off chance that redownloading with my firewall off actually works, how do i disable ui for screenshots

>>146511130
Control + U

>>146511046
Youre right. I hate lolis but will probably go Tamer anyway because I hate Wizards. Got one on 55 and utterly despise the play-style. Awakenings wont be out before September I reckon.

>>146509861
>>146510027
I really wish PA doesn't fuck up and gives theses neat animations like they did with every other class

Is warrior any good for pvp? All the high level guilds seem to only be recruiting wizards and zerks

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>>146511223
thanks

>>146511343
Because youre 4 months late and Wizards/Zerks were recently buffed.

>>146511409
so what you're saying is I can't get into pvp because I haven't been grinding since day 1?

>>146510027
>http://i.imgur.com/hXcL4If.jpg
But that's the mana orb and aggro orb?

>>146511494
Now more than ever you'd have a chance to catch up. Daum just lessened the eternal grind and made it a bit easier to catch up to the no lifers who grinded since day 1.

>>146510039
He's on Jordine
He's the leader of Sardine

>>146494307
its like every game nowadays the casuals are complaining and in fear of losing money the developers comply

>>146511878
Endless grinding gameplay and so on were build to influence on cash shop decisions for F2P game. Since it's B2P for us they made it less time consuming or it would feel really really bad in comparison with the F2P game.

>>146511494
No, I am saying that you play a class that is the least versatile. The fact that you started 4 months late just adds to that.

People rolled Warrior and filled the slots in top guilds. With other classes being buffed, Warrior slots become less and less. But no guild will kick established players to replace them with you. Thats what I mean when I say that youre 4 months late. Its like trying to join as a Valk or Tamer or now even Sorc. Classes are situational and therefore have limited slots, slots that are already filled since March.

>>146512134
Youre fucking retarded. Grinding on RU/KR is infinitely slower than EU/NA because they have constant events. On KR they have shit like 50% EXP boosts for playing at an internet cafe and so much other shit.

Our version is way more grind heavy then the other 3 are.

>>146511987
oh, so not even in the same region then lol

>>146512295
>RU/KR is infinitely slower than EU/NA because they have constant events.
*infinitely faster

Fucked up there.

>>146509661
Sorry, anon. I'll try better.
Send log again?

>>146512295
>Going to an internet cafe to have better grinding.

Is this a thing?

>>146512482
Yes, they also get rng boxes from being in internet cafe or some shit

>>146512426
But we have bonus XP now, mobs give more XP and I notice it's easier to level.

>>146512613
we don't have bonus exp right now

>consider going back to the game
>think about all the autists that have been non stop progressing while i've not being playing and how they are going to one shot me

Yeaaaaaa its not even worth it honestly

>>146512482
Dont ask me, we dont even have a lot of internet cafes anymore. This simply seems to be really common in KR. Playing in one gives you a shit ton of benefits. They get free stuff all the time.

>>146512613
We have it NOW because the base HP of the mobs got buffed, those regions basically have it 24/7 at internet cafes. Hell, they also have EXP events ON TOP of the other boosts like every second week. We had hardly any EXP events for the first 3 months. The only reason we have them now is because Daum needs a way to keep people busy and motivate them to farm Sausans for another month.

Our EXP curve is that same, but we have way less events and boost than the other regions. In fact, the only reason our game is B2P is because the other regions have shit like premium services that let you increase your enhancement luck, sell you fail stacks, make it possible for costumes to be sold for Silver on the market place etc.

People keep spouting this B2P argument since launch because they think that we have the same version as KR/RU, when in reality out cash shop isnt even half as P2W as theirs.

>>146512910
>posting to try and validate your opinion
Nah it's worth it :^)

>>146512910
I can tell you that most of us autists have quit the game. This can easily be observed by looking at the leader-board for growth. A month ago I hit 58 and I am still top 3 in growth on virtually every single channel. And the people who are now ahead of me are like 3-4% into the level. No one is grinding, hardly anyone progresses from 57 to 58 and so on.

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who here pumpt for next wowkiller

>>146515332
reported

>>146515332
is this the new FL Studio interface?

>>146515454
i'm still in the OP, that's against the law or something please

Newbie here, is musa any good in pvp? Windy samurai man looks fun

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>>146515629

>>146515734
I play the female version and my role is usually to scout or circle around and hit the enemy from a different side than my guilds main force. If that's your thing then try one out.

>>146516458
so they suck at pvp but are mobile?

>>146515602
kek

any tips for getting back into the game?
i have about 5mil silver on me

is yuria still the way to go until boss weapons? should i just buy one and upgrade it a bit?
any tips for grinding with plum?

>>146519007
Yuria is still good, but livertos are really easy to get now if you can afford it

in your case, youre probably not level 54 so id suggest getting there before thinking about switching to a liverto

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I heard IC got fed their t2 by Reapers because they couldn't beat them earlier in the week and had to trade.

Any confirmation?

>>146516713
They are very mobile.

With xl herbal juice you can basically be using chase constantly to zoom around and escape/engage.

You want to try to pick off wounded or isolated people that you can kill, and if you can't kill them after your combo just zoom away.

Dont' die and just keep being a nuisance and harassing them.

>>146519007
>any tips for grinding with plum?

red moon
decapitate
blind thrust

get the ultimate vortex thing (whatever it is that you can combo after blind thrust, the ultimate gives you a bunch of health back when you use it)

>>146519223
alright thanks
any of the bdog guilds still alive? i see YC is ITC now but.. why is their rank so low on guild rank?

should i just try to find any guild thatll take me in or what? playing solo is poopoo

>>146519754
ultimate vortex thing

red moon

Lunar Slash or something, starts with dragon sword

>>146519759
YC is Dead; Killed by Baka
IC is Dying; They're a small guild that can't into anything
Baka is Dying; Two girls and a Nigger kills the guild.
Also, what >>146519519 says about IC is true, so take that as you will. Baka was able to kill Reapers and IC couldn't.

making a plum
is my agerian any good or am I gonna have to get another set to +15? taritas?

>>146519961
2 taritas
the two grunil pieces that give you +5ap

>>146519954
>b-baka is stronger than ic, i swear!
>still no level 2 node

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>>146480917
>Last day of nodes
>We got our Fort ready
>Node starts we have to fight Risen Rank #9 in server
>22mins later we won before any of the bugs happen like siege towers and shit not working
2 Nodes both T2, feels good.

any decent guilds to join if all the vg ones are shit?

>>146498574
Time to buy fish suit m80

Is it still worth fishing overnight at a gold hotspot? If i dont have a boat, whats a good one to use?

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>>146510039
>I thought he was on Orwen since that's where the ERP is at
excuse me sir are you implying something

Post what /bdog/ considers to be best CC waifu RIGHT NOW and I will tell you why she's shit

>>146522251
>Orwen isn't a 24/7 drunken orgy party

How am I supposed to reliably upgrade a liverto?
at +7 now but I'm scared to even bother going further with ti

>>146522851
mem frags and throwing stones at it.
or just dont be poor and buy +15

>>146523014
>implying I wouldn't buy one if it was on the market
It's so much cheaper to buy shit fully upgraded

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>>146522602
You missed it

>>146521996
The hotspots move every 30 minutes, I hear, but it's still fish and relic shards, right? Better than not getting anything at all overnight. Anyhow, fishing boat is the fastest and bestest you can get, able to hold the most fish too.

>>146522851
Build failstacks to max with cheap armor first before attempting an upgrade and pray.

>>146522465
That
>pointy elbows 2/10 would not fuck
thing happens every single day even without your participation.

>baited

>>146494307

it's that fast in KR too...

well anons, even downloading it with my firewall turned completely off didn't make it work

I will now kill myself, I wish you nothing but the best, good bye

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Complete bullshit.

>>146527478
seems about right

>>146528068
Yeah let's pretend the game wasn't released in other regions.

>>146528238
i dont see why they dont allow it honestly, i know "muh pay 2 win", but they added flares, and it'd bring depth to the fight.
i dont think people should get a refund though.

>>146528597
>i dont think people should get a refund though.

Because someone in a ghillie killed you?

>>146529097
No,i own a ghillie as well.
You bought video game pixels, they didn't tell you "hey man buy this shit for stuff that isn't in the game yet!", you did it to yourself.

>>146519961
Agerian will net you some attack speed so you won't have to gem for it and the helmet offers a little bit of kockdown resist (I think). I use 3 piece Agerian with Talis boots with a +2 moves peed gem in them and it's working pretty well for mine.

>>146516713
I wouldn't say we suck at PvP, just gotta know when to go in to attack and not get yourself fucked by more than you can handle. People who say they suck are people who say every class sucks because they suck at it.

>>146530250
>No,i own a ghillie as well.

I'm sure

>You bought video game pixels

What is this even suppose to mean?

>"hey man buy this shit for stuff that isn't in the game yet!"

Yeah it's my fault daum changed how the costume works despite knowing about sieges in KR for almost a year now. I guess I'm the stupid one for not predicting the future and spending money to support a company. kys daumshill

>>146532458
no you're an idiot for thinking so much into a video game that you look at a different country and say "hey we'll have that in 3 months! better spend 30 dollars now so i can be ready!"
>bought video game pixels
It means you bought a string of code, something that could be altered so easily and even deleted if the developers wished, you shouldnt be surprised.
Not like any of this matters, it all boils down to you being so poor that 30 dollars means this much to you, why did you spend 30 dollars in the first place if you didn't like daum? how am i the shill when you put money into something you dont even like. Good try you filthy cuck.
This train of though might contribute to you being poor.

>>146520847
>trying to look good after having the same rank nodes as fucking IC and BAKA
Nice try blade_at honora

>>146533378
>no you're an idiot for thinking so much into a video game that you look at a different country and say "hey we'll have that in 3 months! better spend 30 dollars now so i can be ready!"

Except everyone does this you retard, it's called being competitive and not a pleblord potato like yourself.

>It means you bought a string of code

No shit you retard. I'm asking what are you getting at, because that would apply to every single person whose ever bought a piece of software. Are you implying no one is allowed to be upset over virtual items?

>why did you spend 30 dollars in the first place if you didn't like daum?

Correction, I was indifferent about Daum, now they basically screwed me over $30 I'm no going to support their shitty game.

>how am i the shill

Because you're blindly defending a company with no good reasons, your argument boils down to: HURR DERR IT'S JUST A VIDEO GAEM xDDD

>Good try you filthy cuck.

NICE ONE DOOD, do you /R/4chan too you autist?

>This train of though might contribute to you being poor.

It's called not getting fucked in the ass by and being a responsible consumer you literal corporate cuck.

>>146520847
SkyStrike recruiting at all?
Looking for a pvp centric guild

>>146533378
Not him but the "It's only $30!" argument is so tired and makes you seem like someone who doesn't have their own bills to pay, or much financial responsibility at all. Just because income is disposable, it doesn't mean you shouldn't be smart about it.

>>146534374
obviously you're not very competitive if you needed a ghillie advantage to compete.
it does apply to everyone who buys a piece of software, what do you think that agreement says that you press agree through without thinking about. They could shut down the servers tommorow if they wanted.
then leave and stop shitposting in the general, i bet you're playing right now, you dont really care, you're just trying to get your 30$ back because you spent out of your means.
In the end, you put money into a game that i enjoy, that you're never getting back, you funded my fun, whos really winning here? they provided a game that's fun to play, just because your upset that you payed to make up for you being slightly worse than the average player and didnt work out doesnt mean there's no "good reason"
you didn't get fucked in the ass, they never said you'd be able to use ghillie's in siege wars to anyone on NA server, you were just an idiot that assumed.
>>146534871
Being smart about it would be not spending out of your means for a costume in a mmo.

>>146535229
>Being smart about it would be not spending out of your means
Do you know what disposable income is? Try reading a post to get a proper understanding of it before replying to it.

So i got my liverto
Now to upgrade it Which seem to be the hard part. I dont even know how i'll repair it

>>146534483
you don't want to join skystrike
few days ago they literally got pushed out of sausans by a 15 man guild even with having like 30 people there.

I suggest looking to something like manup, gravity, wiafuhunta, or havoc.

>>146535494
Thanks for the suggestions. What about Honor? They're pretty high on the ranking with low members.

>>146535229
>obviously you're not very competitive if you needed a ghillie advantage to compete.

Jesus christ you're retarded. I can just tell you're a shitlord at this game.

>what do you think that agreement says that you press agree through without thinking about. They could shut down the servers tommorow if they wanted.

>le legal agreement meme

>they never said you'd be able to use ghillie's in siege wars to anyone on NA server

And they never said it would be disabled in sieges, until the announcement, hence why many people want a refund after the fundamental changes to the costume.

>>146535713
just a dead guild
if you see a high ranked guild with low members then some drama happened and members left to join other guilds usually.

>>146480917

Do you have to pay for this or you can play in a free server?

>>146535926
You have to pony up.

>>146535926
JP, RU, and KR are all free

>>146535494
>manup

Don't join these autist, had one them griefing our random sausan party, we invited him, but he wanted the spot for himself apparently. Despite getting no xp, he was there for over an hour.

Second experience was at rednose where they tried to flag randoms when the boss almost died. Fucking rednose, the shittiest boss in the game lol. Literally, Egotist: The Guild

>>146536159
it's about control, if you join their channel they typically war your guild at bosses, sausans, or pirates.

PvP centric, just like anon asked

>>146535437
>disposable income = money thats disposable
you shouldnt have spent most of your disposable income on a in game custome if you weren't sure about what it was going to do for you.
>try reading a post to get a proper understanding of it
oh the irony
>>146535751
>you're retarded
thats usually what they say when they can't think of a point to defend against what i just told them.
>legal agreement meme
yes, you're special and something you should be held to something you agreed too, oh wow haha.
You're right they never said anything about where and when ghillies will be able to be used, you assumed based on a different versions game, when all versions of the game have had different changes and aspects to them.
TL:DR you're everything i assumed you were and im glad you're poor where you belong

>>146536347
>you shouldnt be held to something you agreed to
woops was dieing to mobs.

>>146536305
Sounds like stupid dickwaving: the guild, and unsurprisingly often pvp lovers happen to be associated with stupid dickwaving on a 1:1 ratio. Blight on the gaming community as a whole, honestly.

>>146536594
pvp is a blight?
go back to jordine faggot

>>146536347
>oh the irony
You were talking about spending out of your means. Spending disposable income is not spending out of your means.

Stop posting.

>>146536656
That's where I am yo.

>>146536347
>thats usually what they say when they can't think of a point to defend against what i just told them.

No, it's because you're literally retarded and don't understand the advantages of ghillie, which is why they disabled it sieges, which apparently you're defending the decision of, and now backpedaling and saying ghillie doesn't have advantages

>yes, you're special and something you should be held to something you agreed too, oh wow haha.

You're resorting to the legal agreement meme because you have no argument.

>You're right they never said anything about where and when ghillies will be able to be used,

Except the item description before they had to change it. HURR

>>146536738
figures

>>146536305
Except they're not effecting anything so it's literally just dickwaving like anon said.

>>146537024
they keep no name faggots out of their channel so they can get loot from world bosses and grind in peace

it definitely works. Any big guild tries to do the same thing

>>146536684
Yes it is, because it limits the amount of money you're able to use in your life for other means of entertainment..
Obviously he's upset about what he lost because he spent that 30 dollars on the costume, so it was out of his means.
Don't get mad at me because you tried to grasp at the smallest of straws and it didn't save you.
>dont understand the advantages of ghillie
I do infact understand the advantages to ghillie, which is why i defended them in my original post and said
>i dont understand why they disabled them etc
So i didn't back pedal at all, i support my argument even more, are you saying things that dont make sense on purpose at this point?
>no argument
But all you said was legal agreement meme and nothing else, then when i gave you an argument you restated what i said without providing an argument, so what you're saying doesn't make sense and you're saying it because you're out of options.
>except in the item description
no it says it hides your name, not where and when

>>146537278
>>146536901
your half starts at the greentext

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>>146537278

>>146537278
I'll say it again because you don't seem to get it. Spending disposable income is not spending out of your means.

>>146537705
Then your argument doesn't make any sense and shouldn't be spent smartly if theres no consequences of spending it on stupid shit like mmo costumes.
But oh wait, there is consequences and you agree because you insisted it should be spent smartly, so it can limit your means to do other things and enjoy life, so it is out of his means.

>>146537906
>so it can limit your means to do other things and enjoy life
So this is what you mean by spending out of your means? It must be nice to be able to twist definitions of widely used phrases to suit whatever inane argument you want to make at the time.

Stop posting.

>>146538475
I think both of your arguments have gone stupid but "stop posting" is the lowest it's gotten so far.

t. some other guy

>>146538641
>t. some other guy
Yeah, I'm sure lmao

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>>146538475
This can be applied to anything, if he spends his non-disposable income it limits his means to pay his bills, just as spending his disposable income is limiting from spending it on other things besides bills.
I didn't twist anything anon, your argument is just bad.
also
>pic related

>>146538784
If you're spending beyond your means, then you are spending more than you're saving. Disposable income is completely outside of this. Yes, you're correct but you have kinda changed the definition to fit your argument.

Should I get sileshi or jasmin garter belt underwear?

>>146539429
What fits your outerwear better?

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>>146539429
Garters are pretty sexy.

>>146539891
No dude goddammit let 'im make his own goddamn decisions fuck stay out of this.

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>>146539960
Sorry! he asked.

>>146523364
>tfw pantyhose fetish
>tfw leg fetish
>that fat latino ass
muh

>>146536594
>is too much of a bad to actually defend grind spots
>PVP is only dickwaving guys, no way in hell theres a purpose to in a game with limited resources
Jesus Christ, the first months on Jordine must have been an absolute nightmare for you when me monopolized Shrines, Caves and Sausans.

>>146542773
Didn't your mom tell you to share?

>>146542884
Only if sharing means that I dont lose anything of value by doing so. The fuck would I share for if it results in me losing valuable time?

>>146543034
That's not nice sweetie, such bad manners will have you grounded for a week and your nintendo taken away, you know that?

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>>146534302
>same rank
>literally both have T1
>Also IC got T2 from a alliance deal is the rumor going around
Nah stay cucked dudes it's alright.
>>146534483
We plan to do node wars and you got to hit requirement, any memes you hear about them here is just to shitpost me. If you don't like it after a few days or 2 weeks we don't care. We don't get assblasted like IC/Baka.

>>146543716
>this complete mess of a post
wew I need some sleep

Most to least played classes, accurate?
Ranger > Wizard/Witch > Sorceress > Warrior = Valk > Giant = Musa/Maewha > Tamer

>>146543953
more like
Ranger>Witch>sorc>Wizard>Giant>warrior>valk>Maewha>musa>Tamer

>>146543716
>don't get assblasted
honora you've been in a constant state of assblast since launch

>>146543716
what happened that made you hate the chan guilds so much.

>>146544637
he got kicked from YC and IC wouldn't take him or something like that

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So, what Edan guild is the least garbage?

>>146545449
just join a top 20 after you get the 300 requirement.
you'll probably to be able to participate in more stuff then you would if you joined a almost dead chan guild, and it's not all that hard to gear if you stick to one character

so na player here, whats the best most active server?

>>146545717
Uno's the one that has the highest population, they still get a "crowded' channel most normal hours.
Edan if you're looking to play with people from here.

>>146545801
so is orwen dead then?

>>146545801
>lying this hard

>>146545717
Edan for NA
Jordine for EU

>>146545832
i don't know, i've never played on orwen.

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>>146544637
>Has to hate someone to shitpost about them
wew, baka is alright guild would of stayed in it, if it wasn't the lack of organization.
Also IC literally autistic circle jerking ERPers. Started out in beta that IC wanted to already split guilds without having 100 active people in either. Then YC died when the leader change 3 times and lost like 80m in guild funds so I left them. Join baka for a week to get information they could of been holding secret Yeah got some too and see how they were shot calling. After a week I went with Who that split from YC lots of memes and fun times and went undefeated in GvG with all the guilds here. Who finally said fuck it when boss armor came out without node wars so they all went perma afk. I join SkyStrike after that and it was pretty much a normie guild that acted like 4chan so I made my home here.

TL:DR don't hate any guild from here except IC since they tried to ERP me to join and did the first big split of the community.

>>146545801
Eden if you want PvP, Orwen for ERP, Uno for something never hear anything from them.

>>146545449
Your attitude is garbage. While it incites drama as well, ask which one is the best at least, as it adds a positive tone your question. Now you just sound like a jaded fuck that nobody likes.

>>146539891
>>146539560
I just wear normal robes so they shouldn't be visible

I'm not a slut

>>146545996
I can understand why you don't like IC, they're kind of "2cool4yew" people, but i think theres more to your interaction with them than you're saying.

>>146546141
Then make your own goddamn decision. Additionally, stop misusing spoilers and recognize the difference between yourself and your character.

>>146546141
i'm not sure why'd you'd buy underwear then, sounds like a waste to me unless you really dont want to buy luck crystals.
also ignore >>146546315
Do what you gotta do mate.

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>>146546315
wow you seem like a joy to be around

>>146546141
sileshi looks like garbage don't buy it

so did they do some optimzation since launch? I no longer go down to 10 FPS looking at Calpheons node info!

becuese I haven't upgraded my PC at all since then...

>>146546481
Yeah depends on the person. These dumb questions like "guys this game looks fun should I play it?" or "guys give me attention should I do my homework?" "hey I can't decide what I like for myself would you order me 'cause I'm a huge beta?" just happen to push my buttons, as do spoilering ERPfags.

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>>146546135
Why the fuck would I ever talk about a /vg/ guild POSITIVELY, you retard?

Sorcs just got hotfixed from what I can tell

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>>146546220
Pretty much it gives me something to meme/shitpost about. They been asking for it the entire time and they aren't even cool.
>hear them talk in discord many times
>4 sounds like they have downs
>aussie that has a high pitch bitch voice
>eppu sounding like a 40 year old chain smoker dude with voice that sounds like a blender with rocks.
Then theres the fact they claim to be the best PvP guild here but they are a complete garbage guild lost to Reapers. Finally got a T1 in the middle of no where. Then a alliance gave them a free T2. Literally shit guild that was all talk for 102 days.

Now I'm not saying SkyStrike is amazing or even that anyone should join it. Just saying IC literally garbage guild that hasn't gotten guild points in ~50 days.

>>146480917
>can't sell my armour because it's gem'd
Why the fuck not.

>>146546815
You are insulting people's voices lmfao how petty can you be? What a little bitch.

>>146547087
>first two months of beta/game
>Best perk IC was "we have voice chat! While the others don't, come join us!"
>Thinking making fun of their biggest recruitment statement is petty
Nah pretty accurate since they had nothing else going for them.

>>146546815
all the people in that pic were undergeared and still are

>>146547339
>catzura the Guild Leader still undergeared
>cucks still changing their excuses after all this time when they got dumpstered 3v6

>>146547339
Not honora, but that's literally even worse than just dieing because of a skill battle, that means your guild can't even gear let alone compete.
im pretty sure catzura is your leader too.

>>146547209
Nope, you're missing it. It's fair to make an argument about the quality of the discussion, but not the voices themselves. They didn't market themselves as starsung sirens with a voice chat channel that induces ASMR, just that they have voice chat, and any voice chat is better than no voice chat if not taking the quality of discussion into account.

>>146547474
pretty sure catzura is a giant
i don't think gear would make any difference for them right now

>>146547525
The point was we all had voice chat and they acted like they were the only ones with it. Also quality of chat with 4 people with downs is piss poor.
>G-guys lets put mozzarella sticks in our b-belly buttons
>h-hey m-minions guys lets that be our thing!
>h-hehehe huehuehue lets have throat singing
>>146547647
With the new buffs they are on par now with all the other melee classes.

>>146546815
Man I kinda miss Who

Finally got a berto tho

>>146546785
Yeah, no.

>>146548089
No, yeah

>>146480917
are t7 horses worth it? i want a faster than my t2, but im not sure if its worth the price of a weapon core.

>>146548116
Maybe, I don't know?

>>146548181
I know, maybe I don't?

>>146548181
>>146548235
The question, can you repeat it?

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>>146547339
friendly reminder

>>146548301
Could I?

>>146548089
I tested it dipshit, they did. DF applies damage properly off CD now.

>>146548469
Stop fucking telling fibs m8

>>146548469
The boy who cried hot fix

>>146548469
Okay mate. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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>>146545996
>BL is still butthurt

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>>146520628
>>146543716

>>146549468
The only kill you got on me was 1v7. Good job XD maybe put this effort into node wars to get 2 T2+ nodes

>tfw rerolling is really tough because you dont know which awakening suits you best and rerolling in general being cancer in this game

>>146550457
It's not even that bad. Hand-me-down gear, knowledge and contribution are shared and it's really easy to grind another character up when you know the basics of the game already.

>>146550814
The problem are the life skills. They take ages to level, requires shit ton of fucking resources and you kinda need them on your main or else you generate energy really inefficiently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLOGJhsm4U
Worst part ever. You have virgin MMORPG player who actually has a functional brain but his videos only receive 10k views. Meanwhile meme youtubers receive 2m. I wish all these MMORPG hating cucks would leave the fucking industry. I bet that 99% of them are degenerate carebears.

>>146550959
>leveling fishing on a new character
this is the worst feeling.
>>146551089
no shit, there will always be more people bad at something than good, thats how life works.

>>146545449
Join IC

>>146551709
Literally garbage guild, don't listen to this shill. Join a guild with 120+ guild post so you can at least get all the passive combat skills.

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>>146550337
>>146551818
BL why are you so insecure?

>>146551132
>no shit, there will always be more people bad at something than good, thats how life works.
Kinda misses the point. The problem isnt that people are bad, its that they think that their opinion should matter.

Ever since official forums became a thing every single degenerate thinks that his ideas and preferences are valuable and insightful. Which then results is more degenerates supporting the claims of said mongoloid.and the developer adjusting their product because they think that this is what the vast amount of players want.

It happened to BDO in KR and the game died because of it. It happened to Wildstar because there were so many people on the forums lying about loving 40men raids that the developers actually thought that 40men raids are the right approach. Problem was that none of these people ever played 40men in a challenging setting, they just played some shitty WoW level 60 40men raids while being level 80. On top of that most are too fucking dumb to understand that if something isnt for them, maybe its best to just move on and accept the fact that this title might now suit them. So they ask for compromise after compromise which just right out ruins the game for everybody, particularly the core playerbase that actually had some form of attachment to the title.

Hell, it even happened in games like Counterstrike. VALVE streamlined CSGO so fucking hard that it took away all the charm of the brand. Its a generic as fuck meme FPS now. And for what reason? So appeal to a bunch of fucking mongoloids. Cant even blame the company for taking the opportunity to make more money. Its the cancerous communities that turn every single game into a grey pile of generic shit.

>>146551898
no i saw your point, and i responded it with what i wanted to.
The majority controls things, and always will.

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>>146551891
>bringing up old shit to even have a valid argument
Not as insecure as IC is with how shit their node wars went.

>>146551898
>On top of that most are too fucking dumb to understand that if something isnt for them, maybe its best to just move on and accept the fact that this title might now suit them.
I think it's completely fair to try and change something for the better in your eyes. If the developer listens the people who couldn't outvote them are at fault.

>>146553348
Then again, most people admittedly do not have any idea what they're voting about, so maybe there is a valid reason to be indignant after all. Brexit comes to mind right about now.

What EU server do you guys recommand? I just got the game.

>>146553576
Jordine is the most populated EU server.

join sardine

>>146553348
Details sure, but not core aspect of something. Particularly not shit like class balancing, anything related to PVP etc. 99.9% of the player base is too incompetent to ever judge whether something is OP or UP, they arent competent enough to do so. Developers should have learn that by now and simply ignore people. The only players who should be asked are the top 0.1%, because only they have both knowledge and ability to properly judge most of the games aspect. This becomes blatantly obvious in competitive games. Scrubs in CS call the AWP OP, in Quake its the Rocket Launcher and in Fighting Games Fireball characters.

By listening to these vocal minorities you also drive away the core playerbase. They might now even want change, but the changes have such a dramatic impact on their experience that it might make them quit because of them. You cant just blame the people who are actively playing the game for not bitching and reacting on the forums. People who enjoy the game the way it is are playing the game. Degenerates who push for changes spend their entire day on the forums and bitch.

Most costumers dont even know what they want. I stopped counting how many people were asking for fucking dungeons/raids over the course of the first 2 months. A developer should simply have a vision and go with that. Adjustments of details that are made based on community feedback (particularly the core community and top 0.1%) should be taken into consideration. Apart from that the community should simply be ignored.

>>146553712
Sounds reasonable actually, I can agree.

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>>146553337
>get two nodes
>shit
??? Also that old shit seems to be valid considering you still shitpost about me :^^))))

>>146553845
>someone was actually peacefully convinced to change their standing in an argument on 4chan
Uh oh. I don't think I'm on the same Earth anymore.

Never played an MMO. Is this the right one for a newfag?

>>146554730
It's fine, I doubt you'll have any problems. Try it out and see how you like it.

>>146554730
this mmo is very close to perfect despite its many flaws, i dont think you should start with this one

>>146553576
>>146554730
Remember to post your character a lot in this thread if you want to be part of hot fresh /bdog/ oc like this

http://pastebin.com/cGB4FFTC
http://vocaroo.com/i/s15xDjZGGDSW

>>146549828
Needs more signs.

>>146546461
I'm mentally ill tranny and like to self-insert

>>146553712
>99.9% of the player base is too incompetent to ever judge whether something is OP or UP, they arent competent enough to do so. Developers should have learn that by now and simply ignore people. The only players who should be asked are the top 0.1%, because only they have both knowledge and ability to properly judge most of the games aspect.


it doesn't matter what the .1% can do with a class, if a class is balanced versus skilled players but against unskilled players it's too good/overpowered, it needs to be nerfed

you can't just have your game catered towards some elite playerbase because then your game has no fucking players.

>>146554870
This game filled my fantasy of having a 3D MMO with boats you can fish out of. That fantasy was born out of fishing and sailing in Ultima Online so I've been waiting a long time for this one.

By the way, are there any classes that perform noticeably worse than others? I'd really love to give berserker a go but I'm afraid it'll be underpowered late game.

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>>146555010

>>146555576
Anon in charge of class balance

>>146555632
>it'll be underpowered late game.

Berserker is not underpowered in the slightest


currently underpowered would be maewha/warrior and sort of musa


warrior ceases to become underpowered when he gets his big sword awakening

maewha will still be up after awakening

musa will be ok

>>146550959
Fair point, the life skills are a bitch to level. I've been told there's a cash shop item on KR to sort of hand over your life skills to another one of your characters but they never went into detail and no word on if we'll get it or not. We can only hope.

>>146553962
not the dude you are talking to but is getting a T1 node that impressive? I seen like rank 600 guilds with 10 guild points getting them.

>>146555576
The problem with shitters having a say in class balancing is that shitters arent able to fully utilize a classes abilities and are also too retarded to exploit their weaknesses. If you would ask a shitter how many iframes a Sorc has he would probably tell you that its an infinite amount, when in reality Tamer has a million times more ways to defend herself. The class can spam iframe 2-3 times as much before running out of stamina, has the same level of mobility through LBP, 2 abilities that give her frontal block on attack and a I second iframe on her stun ability. The shitter will also tell you that Wizard is bad because its weak in 1v1, even though it being completely broken in XvX (now its broken in all aspect). The shitter will also be unwilling to sacrifice XvX strength to compensate for 1v1 buffs.

Shitters should not be asked, period. And the problem is that shitters make up 99% of the game. The only good thing is that its usually only the 50-60% of those people who actually bitch, the rest knows that its their fault.

And no, people wont quit the games. Otherwise CS and Fighting Games would be dead. Every single BDO class is and has been viable since launch. But for some retarded reason people dont understand what a role is anymore. You slap the titled 'Healer' on something and they wont complain about it dealing no damage. But as soon as you make it obvious that a class has a support role WITHOUT EXPLICITLY SAYING THAT IT DOES people expect it to just be a god at everything.

>>146555632
Bezerker is the second most broken class in the game. Awakening wont really change that. Only difference is that everything will be shit compared to Ranger.

>>146556009
T1 and a T2, it's pretty good considering it's like a 20 man guild.

>>146556154
see>>146546815
>T2 given to you by an alliance
pathetic

>>146556258
BL is Skystrike even participating in node wars?

>>146555264
a good therapist could've saved you.
>>146555632
i feel you completely, an explorable see is an amazing thing, especially with open world pvp, berserker just got buffed so you're on the right track right now, dont pick tamers, theyre garbage outside of 1v1

>>146556501
not really we just got lucky and didn't even have to fight all that much.
1 node we won by default and the other the guild was basically a no show

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>>146556660
You've never seen a good Tamer in GvG have you? They make great peelers and decent scout/ harassment teams.

all of the awakenings are broken
ranger is just broken by default so the awakening sucks in comparison
if they decide to drip feed wakenings then its going to be full shitstorm

>>146557832
No, i can't say i have, but i might just be lucky. i legitmately believe they're too squishy to ever be useful, especially with their pet being broken.
That being said, i dont know how good the pet sacrifice buff is either or how long it lasts.

>>146559642
I can't believe they gave ranger a sword, like where the fuck does that fit in their theme.
make a whole character based on archery and instead of making a canonnier, crossbow, or gunner, they give her a sword.
i understand it's too solve the classes problems, but they could've done that with any weapon and special skills.

>>146557832
>decent scout/ harassment teams.

What is this meme with GvGs being this big organized thing where there are scouting and harassment teams and the players form ranks like a medieval battle


i've literally never seen anything close to that

>>146560694
I honestly assume its memes, unless these guilds are in comms, everyone is running around with their heads off

>>146560694
Someone posted a webm ages ago of a Valkyrie shield wall which was pretty cool but it was just fucking about on velia beach. Itd be neat if this actually happened more

>>146560694
>>146560798
i really hope siege wars brings organized combat, i'd love to see lines of soldiers blocking to advance with archers and wizards behind them while the enemy team tries to have calvary flank and shit with ninjas trying to assasinate high priority targets.
Kind of like an RTS battle with individuals, this is the only game available where that's really possible.

Help me decide what class to play.


I can't choose between plum or witch.

>>146561774
Plum, because it kills witch.

>>146561774
witch is currently the most wanted class for end game node wars

>>146562318
you mean wizard
witches sound annoying when casting spells

>>146562318
I know it's the "most wanted" but it's basically you being treated as a mobile cannon.


I don't like the lack of mobility compared to basically every other class (only mobility besides short range dodge/roll like every class has is teleport on an 8 second cd).

I hate having to have a strong reliance on staying near teammates/being surrounded to not die.

I don't like having to be super careful lest I get blown up/1 combo'd.

>>146562792
>lest I get blown up/1 combo'd
Isn't that basically Musa/Mahewa though?

>>146563219
yes, maywha die pretty fast
but they have mobility and can't survive on their own

witches/wizards have a harder time 1v1

>>146563219
if you get caught, yes, but you have dash which you can use pretty much infinitely to escape if you get the chance to use it and it makes you unCCable


being a musa/maewha, as long as you have your herbal juices you basically have infinite mobility

>>146561407
Possible, but not viable.

>>146562792
>>146563219
>>146563262
I basically just like being able to conform to whatever a given situation calls for, and witch isn't the best for that.


musa/maewha wouldn't be perfect for that but they're more independent which I think I would like

No kuniochi, dead game.

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Can anyone provide any other Ranger resources other than BDFoundry?

Also, should I focus on upgrading my Yuria bow to +15 right away?

are you allowed to build your node fort inside calpheon castle?

>>146564331
why do people want this?
PA literally said the class is shit and completely is reworking it.

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>>146557781
You should stop seeing a doctor and start seeing a vet.

>>146566038
muscle futa centaur waifu?

I don't think we're ready for that yet.

>>146480917

That anatomy does not work.

>>146567186
did anime ever work?

>>146546815
>Skeltal from IC
That pic is like a month or 2 old, dude

Hahaha
I cant believe you autists are still playing a mediocre mmo let me guess you wasted too much money on it and you cant go back

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>>146562792
>being treated as a mobile cannon
This sums up what it is to be a witch in guild fights.

>>146567561
Well it's BL literally the most autistic person here, i doubt he cares that Skeltal isn't a part of IC, he just posts stuff to 'boost' his ego but in reality bashing IC and a transgendered person probably won't boost his ego in most peoples eyes.

>>146564438

Armor +5
Off hand +7
Then get the Yuria to +15

You will notice the easy on your class.