World of Warcraft General - /wowg/

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check this what i just bought 2x removed from game, cheap, jelly?

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xth for male panda pvp :3

Killing all females in tanaan


Also for Mages being a bitch

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I am coming back to WoW.

I am just starting my garrison. Is there a guide to see how to make money in the garrison?

what can you do on the PTR? does it give you premade characters? can you do quests with these characters? I never played WoD, so maybe I could rush through the quests? seems weird that blizzard would allow this?

>>146454020
there is no guide because it's getting shredded in 7.0

>>146454108
ok. then how am I to make money in this game? Do old dungeons? Dailies? farm materials and play the auction house?

I have like 60 gold to my name right now. (Last time I played was end of Wrath). So I am trying to figure out how to get a little nest egg before the expansion hits.

>>146453334
please post more Rae

i miss your ridiculous yet arousing proportions

also sit on my face please

>>146454037
You can do anything on the PTR.

You can choose level 1 or level 100.

You can do quests.

You can do quests and zones if you want.

It is not weird because blizzard wants to test what is going on in all areas. So enjoy the old areas.

>>146454283
questing is and always has been the basic way to build up gold
people always seem to forget just how much it gives

>>146454364

MOAR

>>146453334
Your pics are always unique

you're the only cow with giant tits and the biggest ass

holy shit why do so many leather transmogs look bad with shoulders

>>146454283

Do old raids.
Farm Timeless Isle before it's gone forever.
Pool your gold into a bank alt.

>>146454979
because all non-mail shoulders look bad

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>Rune of Power still exists in Legion

Leveling a lock, is it better to go for max stamina on gear or a mix of stam and int?

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>>146454364
Sure, why not
>>146454836
I'm trying to not make all of them just Rae hiding behind a bush. That's too easy and isn't interesting anymore.

>>146455010
I've heard literally nothing about TI being removed

>>146455010
>Farm Timeless Isle before it's gone forever.
what

>>146454469
thanks! I am going to do that

>>146455037
post nelf butt

>>146455091
rae is one of the best avatarposters

if only she posted thick femgobs too

>>146455103
>>146455130

Potions of Luck are becoming vendor trash, so TI will be usesless when that happens.

>raising the level cap to 110

so literally no one at blizzard thought that might not be a retarded idea?

what the fuck were they thinking

>>146455010
thanks. I will let you guys know how much money you can get doing questing vs old dungeons and such.

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>>146455202

>>146455182
that's not the same as removing the content outright, you spastic

>>146455085
all int and crit, your voidwalker is your health bar

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>>146455091
There's always new bushes and things to hide behind.

You now have a reason to go out into the old zones to find all of them and take lewd pics.

>>146455202

Why would they keep it the same? You'd have no reason to quest.

>>146455250

Well it's not like anyone even went to TI in MoP anyway.

>>146455261
I never use it, dies easy and I kill things faster with other pets

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>>146455181
Thanks! Not a huge fan of Femgobs, could try them out sometime though
>>146455274
You're right
That's why I'm going to take 10 screenshots in each zone

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Been out of the loop for a while but
>Personal loot
>there is a chance no one gets anything from a boss kill
>what does drop has RNG stats on it
>And there are bonus stats on top of that

Who the FUCk thought that was a good idea?

Did they really double down on the static gearscore scaling stats? Like what the fuck is the point of raiding if you have no chance in hell in getting anything fun or useful?

>>146455565
>everyone getting gold is worse than the guild enchanter getting shards and no one else getting anything

>>146455327
>dies easy
What the fuck are you doing.

What's a good guild to join if I want to stay in the loop with /wowg/ and better understand the threads?

Does /wowg/ have a vent or teamspeak?

>>146455625
But gold is meaningless anon, you can't buy good items anymore.

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>>146453808
wheres yours?

>>146455181
>she

What's a good guild to join if I want to stay in the loop with /wowg/ and better understand the threads?

Does /wowg/ have a vent or teamspeak?

>>146455565
>>what does drop has RNG stats on it

the fuck are you even talking about

>>146455791
probably means how gear can roll higher ilvl/sockets

>>146455820
that isn't randomly determined stats

you're not going to have two warforged items with differing values

>>146455791
I think he's talking about warforging and titan forging.

DESU that scaling bullshit gear is why I quit raiding, that and I realised ilvl is boring.

>>146455309
>Why would they keep it the same? You'd have no reason to quest.

Because 100 is a much easier number to advertise and looks way less retarded.

The leveling system and questing could have EASILY been integrated into the artifact power system.

>>146455565
It's a good thing you can still choose master loot instead then you faggot.

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>>146453671
Reminder if you don't buy it you're a bad goy. You're not a bad goy, right?

>>146455641
Nothing out of the ordinary it just doesn't tank that good, faster to just burn things down

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>timewalking
>2 pandas
>2 worgen
here we go...
>'tank' fem panda cant use any of their active mitigation and sit on rage cap
>they force a wipe
>i call them out on it
>this happens

>>146455874
warforging and titan forging is full RNG.

What that anon was getting at is
-with personal loot, bosses don't drop loot, the RNG faries randomly give you loot, rather then having a fixed drop table
-that loot doesn't nessisarily have to be good either, it might be in an abitrary peice of shit gear that is for a spec that you might not even be something you're willing to play ever
-On top of this, the gear has a random chance to have an increased ilvl, all this does is increase the static stat allowences on the gear by 1-2%
-And then there is another chance that the item might actually have interesting stats, or a socket

Simply put, instead of loot tables where you can focus on getting a single peice of gear to build your character, we're stuck on RNJesus mode, hopeing to get a relevant item, but 9 tims out of 10 we're probably going ot get shit gear that we have to use anyway because it has better ilvl.

There of course are legendaries, which are actually interesting for once, but they're also full RNG.

>rae will never fart on your face

why live

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>>146456128
Never, they made male pandaren, I ll have to support them forever :3

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desperately running out of bag space, going to open a shit ton of these now and send the loot to my bank alt. wish me luck fambam

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>>146456209
>Tank ever dying when you're playing disc
?????

What are the worst looking classes in beta/ptr?

>>146456217
>-with personal loot, bosses don't drop loot, the RNG faries randomly give you loot, rather then having a fixed drop table
so you've literally only done dungeons and think everything else is like that?
>-that loot doesn't nessisarily have to be good either, it might be in an abitrary peice of shit gear that is for a spec that you might not even be something you're willing to play ever
what are loot specializations for $500, Alex

>>146456346
All the classes feel better to play, they stripped away a lot of RNG and clunky mechanics (yes, this means abilities were removed too)

I for one am excited for affliction, now that the haunt and soul drain is no longer required to do full DPS with dots.

>>146456445
>loot specializations
Those don't do anything though, you could be playing an affliction warlock and get versatility and multistrike from a loot specialization drop

They're also forcing raids use personal loot in legion

>>146456209
>actually you dont have this gem or this glyph so that's why I couldn't press my take %50 less damage buttons

panda players, not even once

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>>146456209
>Listen faggot. leave my wife alone you peice of shit white trash cunt. before i come over their and tear you anew asshole via cutting you in half so you can really shity out a peice of shit as big as yourself
Why do people get this mad over others on the internet?

>>146457257
He's a beta whiteknight and someone insulted his waifu.

He must prove his worth and chivalry by defending his faultless, capable and perfect wife, who is completely innocent and incapable of defending herself from criticism or blame, because she is a fragile woman in need of protection by a brave, good guy like himself.

The Draenei behind me is a level 77 prot warrior using an account bound dagger and a level 40 shield.

How do things like that happen?

>>146457681
Where are your pants

>>146456664
>forced personal loot
not on mythic which is where a lot of raiders will be focusing

and it's not like they're leaving the system exactly as it is, you'll be able to trade an item if it's not an upgrade for you

>>146457813
yeah, its good to see them returning to the 2% of players getting to enjoy the game again.

>>146456209
Don't talk to me or my wife's son again!

>>146456664
>They're also forcing raids use personal loot in legion

Citation needed

>>146458156
I keep hearing people say that. Where does that come from?

>>146458229
It was in the recent Q&A

All raids but mythic will be personal loot only

This is because Watcher only cares about world first raids and will ruin the game to try and make world first racing 'balanced'

They're only doing this so split clearing is nerfed and content lasts longer, instead of fixing the problem of actually making content.

>>146457789
I lost them.

so, shadow priest got but fucked to a whole new level of shit making them absolutely useless in pvp (if you dont know what im talking about look up "void eruption").
I have a 95 mage I used my wod boost a LONG time ago on, should I max him out and try out fire?

>>146455540
using dyable?

>>146458452
How does one lose their pants?

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>>146456258
>400 chests in
>only 2 epics
>both were fucking necklaces

post yfw you successfully crush a fruit vendor

>>146455994
>Because 100 is a much easier number to advertise and looks way less retarded.
You're one of the people that thinks "MUH DAMAGE IS WAY TO HIGH" aren't you? It literally doesn't matter and increasing the level cap has been a thing in WoW for ages.
>easier to advertise and looks way less retarded
I'm sure that because people don't like the look of "level 110" they won't buy legion. What the fuck do you think they should put on the box?
>battle to...it's still 100 but you can level your weapon!
Not to mention people would look different, like there'd be 100 WoD and 100 legion, would have to make a way to differentiate and it'd still look stupid. You're dumb

>>146456258
>>146458678

Jesus how many alts do you HAVE?

>>146458843
only 4 with a salvage yard. 7 100's total and then two 90s on dead servers

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>>146458602
Yeap

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Almost every spec in Legion got pruned, but at the same time they gave Frost mages more and more buttons. Like you already get 3 more buttons than you have in WoD, and now in the latest beta build they added another Single Target nuke to use when Brainfreeze procs instead of Frozen Orb, but Frozen Orb is still there.

Almost overwhelming how many short CDs you have. There's 3 seperate short CDs just for proccing fingers of frost. You have Ebonbolt, which is your artifact ability, creates 2 Fingers of Frost charges on a 45 sec CD, you have Frozen Touch, another CD that creates 2 FoF charges, except on a 30 sec CD, and you have Water Jet from your elemental which makes Frostbolt proc FoF while it's active on a 25 sec CD

I'm almost a little overwhelmed with all this shit. And then you can save up all those CDs for Rune of Power (another 45 sec CD) to cast like 10 Ice Lances in a row with additional 50% increased damage

>>146459173
Why the fuck does blizzard only care about frost?

>>146459237
Kel'thuzad

Balance of pvp and pve. Are they still doing separate talent points for pvp and pve?

>>146459237
>More buttons equals better design

But that's not true anon. Some of the specs which have like 5 frequently used abilities like Fury are just fantastic, Rampage is exactly what Fury missed. That being said, unlike other classes Warriors still have a lot of DPS CDs like Bladestorm, Avatar etc.

>>146459237
Frost is the spec all the shitty pvpers play to feel good about themselves, It's probably the most played spec overall in pvp, bar none, for the entire history of arena. So it gets the most attention, meanwhile the people that play Fire and Arcane in Pvp like them just the way they are.

>>146459509
The survivability of mages is extremely low. Frost is to bubble and slow shit down so you don't die on the first silence.

>>146459237
don't you enjoy playing a shell game every time you cast a spell?
t. fire

>>146459150
>>146459509
How the hell are you two getting such crystal clear screenshots? The backgrounds and characters are both flawless.

>want to do max deeps on kazzak because bored
>pop ring and CDS, boss instantly targets me because of all my damage and 2 shots me
Fucking tanks not using their taunt. Also why can't all classes get a fucking threat re-direct ability, this is horse shit.

>>146459643
You're a faggot

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>>146458687

>>146459643
>Popping everything and going balls deep .0000042 seconds after aggro
It's like you wanted to die or something

>>146459678
Fuck you, you are, prove me wrong then

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>just the 400 chests was enough to fill 2 bank tabs with just weapons and no duplicate models
>still over 1000 chests left that i have to open before prepatch

>>146459458
Yeah I don't understand the whining about "pruning" either.

back the good old days most specs only had a handful of abilities. And for the last couple expansions(before WoD) they've been adding more and more abilties to the point where theres just too damned many things to keep track of, and half those skills were like hyper niche weird shit like Dark Sim.

I have beta, have had it for months, and it doesn't feel like they've removed all the spells to me. Most of what gone is stuff I wont miss and stuff that never needed to exist.

>>146459772
GIVE BACK FEATHERS
GIVE BACK 90%
GIVE BACK DEMONIC CIRCLE, SHADOWBURN, BACKDRAFT, AND GRIMOIRE OF SACRIFICE

>>146459768
yeah but do you actually want any of them

>trashy vanilla greens

got enough of those from loremaster, no thank you

>>146459772
dark sim was cool fuck you
>will never need a frost death knight for [insert shaman boss] progression again

>>146459731
REEE WAHHHH REEEEEEE TANK???? HEALER????? REEEEEE

>>146459883
85% of it is cata and mop greens. i need to keep them for wardrobe so i can get my Fabulous title on release, then i'll have over 50k in revenue once i vendor them all

>>146459772
I like to press a lot of buttons. To be perfectly real, sith warrior in SWTOR is my ideal. I was mashing a different button every half second or less and it was a fucking blast. Admittedly, at least half of those were their not!auto attack. Rogue used to feel the same way to me, and kind of sort of does still.

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>>146459958
>so I can get my fabulous title on release

>he doesn't have loremaster

>>146459772
What's your favorite specs in the beta anon?

Mine are:
1. Unholy DK
2. Fury Warrior
3. Enhancement Shaman (Even though untalented Flametongue is literally just a shitty short CD you press that doesn't do anything)
4. WW Monk (The new mastery is fantastic and it just feels really good to play)

Unfortunately even the great specs have a bit of shitty design in there.

>>146459584
I have three 100 mages and play exlcusively Fire and Arcane in arena. It both viable and way more fun than frost, yes, you have to work harder and be better to win because you cant spam roots snares and shields.

Frost is a monotonous, uninteresting spec for people who only care about WINNING and not about enjoyable gameplay. Frost is an Anti-Fun spec for both the player and the person you are playing against.

>>146459885
>dark sim was cool fuck you

Spellsteal for toddlers.

>>146459885
it was completely useless outside of PvP and the train boss in Iron Docks

>>146459997
>sith warrior in SWTOR is my ideal

better be a juggernaut

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>>146459630
I personally set renderscale to 200%, max out graphic settings and turn off SSAO.

Free Far Sight also helps with positioning the camera and altering the lighting.

Legion music seems fantastic

>>146460032
Have fun with your challenger title?

>>146460079
Does "pressing the same button every second" if it was a juggernaut.

>>146460045
spellsteal was just buffs. copying spells was cooler
>>146460014
i have most of it done, questing greens for 1-60 are different models than world greens AND they just raised it to 100 styles per slot
>>146460051
>hagara the stormbinder in dragon soul
>dark shamans in SoO
>nazgrim adds
>garrosh adds
>half of scholomance
this expansion it was useless but if they had actually made it do what it was supposed to instead of cherry picking 1/100 spells it would've been fun as hell
>inb4 hurr copying boss spells is cheating
mogushan vaults

>>146460110
>free far sight
I really want to use this but isn't it bannable?

>>146460110
I better write that shit down.

Also... uh... you got any human toons with the purple eyes and freckle face...? Just, uh, wondering.

>>146460051
>>146460196
>tfw literally only just started using spellsteal to get some weak aoe pulse from a timewalking mob
Honestly I know i've had it but when I tried using it it didn't work
What're some good spells to steal?

>>146460196
>questing greens for 1-60 are different models than world greens

well yeah, if you're doing cata loremaster it's going to have cata models

>>146460135
I did, and do, title/rating/rank autism is not an affliction I have.

I play the game to have fun, not to be "best". Being best in something like WoW is a literal "who gives a shit" that is not worth pursuing.

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>>146460237
As long as you don't use things like spectator mode and the FoV increase as an unfair advantage, you should be okay. It's just a machinima tool after all.
>>146460240
No I don't sorry. Now I kinda want one

>>146460437
no you dipshit the random greens that drop in 1-60 zones are different from the 1-60 quests because cataclysm gave the quest gear new models

>>146460485
that's what I said you retard, try and get some comprehension

>>146460409
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_magic_effects

>>146460458
That's ok. Couldn't you, uh, make one? Or does the mod you're using need a lot of tweaking for each character you use it on?

>>146460531
>cataclysm loremaster
>1-60
did you even read your own post

>>146460614
>unironically saying cata didn't revamp loremaster for 1-60

wew lad

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>>146458230
Originally introduced through a fan-made parody image of the Cowboy Bebop character Spike Spiegel it has grown to include other things showing the same thing in smaller sizes.

It goes from there.

>>146460196
>>inb4 hurr copying boss spells is cheating
nah, I wish it worked the way it was supposed to, but in it's current form there's no reason for it to exist. There's no point in taking up a slot on my action bar for an extra 40k damage on Ah'riok

>>146460643
http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=4875/loremaster-of-cataclysm

>>146460701
yeah you really are dense aren't you

>>146460743
>tells me that cataclysm loremaster has cataclysm models
>tells me to get reading comprehension because the cataclysm loremaster quest doesn't include the 1-60 quests he's mentioning
GEE
BOSS

>>146460841
>1-60 isn't cataclysm content

lol ok

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>>146460905

Weren't the old loremaster achievements something like "Complete 1400 quests in Eastern Kingdoms" or something?
Fuck that.

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>>146460549
I can maybe make one later
Or do it yourself

>>146461046
700 and 685, I think, can't remember which was which

new numbers might actually be more than that, hordeside 4.0 loremaster of Kalimdor is 733 quests, I'll run numbers on the others

>>146453671
Does anybody want to do some lowbie RP, or just fish and talk or something? I'm unsubbed, but after watching Warcraft I crave a little gameplay.

>>146461121
these butts are the BEST

sit on my face PLEASE

>>146461046
It still takes forever either way and it's boring as fuck either way
Fuck WoW questing. Absolute garbage, so few of them are fun, most are unengaging and uninteresting.

>>146461161
>just fish and talk
>unsubbed
get some comprehension

>>146461153
Well now that it's compartmentalized by zone with a counter (and having quests that properly work their way through a zone) it wouldn't be so bad to clear a zone on days you're bored. To sit there and do 700 quests in one go though..

>>146461224
GOMD shitposter

>>146461121
I have one.
But not whatever mod this is.
I can't do it myself when I'm furiously spamming F5

>>146461445
>can't do it myself
get some comprehension

Legion vexes me. I've been waiting for this since BC, or since Warcraft 3 if we're being honest. Hyped! But god damn, the direction the game's been taking lately...and I've got a life now, I can't spend all my time WoWing anymore.
What do I do?

>>146461871
Stop being a faggot prob

>>146461871
Go back to your normie wageslave job then, fucking kek, the choice is obvious, slaves get no choice. God you normies are dumb.

>>146461286
well it never would have been 700 quests in one go, a new player wouldn't look at the achievements and go 'wow I want to do this right away', they'd just get stuck in and level how they wanted and come back to it at a later point
I honestly can't speak for what kind of effort you'd have had to put in to get those achievements during 3.0 because I got them as soon as I logged in

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>>146461871
>I want to do something
>but I don't want to spend time doing something

>>146461956
>>146462025
>>146462243
Uh-huh.

It's a lot more all the bullshit in the game lately then a job/lack of time, really. Every glance at WoW in the past...god, I dunno, since Warlords was announced? Every glance has looked pretty damn shitty. Garrisons this, pruning that, the whole concept of Warlords being awful...
But god dammit, it's Legion.

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could be could be

>>146462480
>>146462548
>>146462610
>>146462682
>>146462751
nunsy...

>>146462896
Mcconnell is better

>>146462935
Mcconnell is a filthy neckbeard leech

>Just wake up
>Read beta patch notes
>Shaman nerfed hard despite not being OP
>OP classes like warrior untouched
JUST

>>146463030

Enhance was pretty strong

>Cooldown on Phoenix flames upped to 1.5 min from 30 sec

Just fucking nerf the damage instead blizzard.

>>146453671
this game is shit in every aspect.
prove me wrong

>>146463359

It's not shit at being shit.

>>146463231
I admit enhance is strong, but warriors, rogues, and DKs are massively better

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>>146463424
>>146463359
check mate atheist

>>146463497

What ever is OP in the prepatch will get nerfed to the ground. better you suck now.

>>146463030
Who cares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH1TzGpHnHA

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>Have beta access
>Want to give feedback
>EU class feedback forums are a complete fucking mess, so i want to post it on the US threads that are actually made by community managers
>EU and NA forums are seperated
>Can't post on NA forums with a EU license
>Can't add an NA region starter account to my battle.net account
>Can't give feedback

Why is Blizzard so fucking retarded?

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>>146463030
>>146463231
Yes, Enhancement Shamans were OP, if you deny that you're retarded, but fixing their numbers by making your resource starved? That's just no fun. I'd rather have them reduce all damage Enhancement shamans do by 50% than to feel like a fucking rogue waiting for auto attacks so i get my resource back.

And do you know why this dumb change was made? Because of Boulderfist. They intend Boulderfists playstyle to be one where you're not GCD locked, and you have a few GCDs in which you do nothing. Before this nerf you were GCD locked no matter if you used Boulderfist or not, and that went against the design philosophy, but i think we can all agree that it was fun as shit to play Enhancement shaman until now.

I'd rather have them just completely remove Boulderfist than nerf the resoruce generation of the entire fucking spec just for one fucking talent.

Well i guess at least now i have 1 less class to worry about trying to decide on which one i will main in Legion

>>146456209
sounds like retardation all around

>>146463876
>I'd rather have them just completely remove Boulderfist than nerf the resoruce generation of the entire fucking spec just for one fucking talent.
meanwhile surrender to madness

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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20745664362?page=1
jej

>>146464229
What about it?
It's just a level 100 talent for Shadow Priest, but the whole class isn't designed around it like Enhancement shamans resource is completely designed around balancing Boulderfist/Rockbiter

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>>146464438

huns will you PLEASE be my gf?
i cannot live without your memes
i love u so much

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>>146464438
I probably would've killed myself.
But then again, i know about this retarded garbage so i would have dismissed my pet before attacking

>>146463713
>Keeping containment continent tier opinions contained to the containment continent via a containment forum.

Seems pretty brilliant to me.

>>146464596
>Changing Lone Wolf in such a way that it's either baseline and Summoning a pet simply reduces your damage, or to make it so you get the talent to HAVE a pet, not to be able to play without it, instead of forcing every MM hunter to waste a talent tier on a mandatory talent that should be baseline and IN FACT was baseline for MM until some retards whined about muh leveling experience
>Bad opinion

Fuck off

>>146464596
>Eurocucks need to be contained
>But Mexicans and Brazilians are just fine

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>>146456209

>>146464438
>BMtards

not

even

once

tfw lone wolf is MM only in leejun

>>146464683
I actually love the way the new hunter talents and specs work, and think they are now the way they should have been.

BM: The MUH BEAST spec.
Surv: The Muh Dawg, Muh Traps and Muh Hatchet spec.
Marks: The Muh Range, Nuke and Kiting spec.

Marks hunters literally always wanted to take lonewolf anyway, that personal damage increase is simple too good to pass up.

>>146464842
But muh hunters have muh pet class fantasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>Berserk and Berserking both have a 3 minute cooldown and last 10 seconds

It's like they were made to be macro'd together

>>146464772
DO IT

>>146464842
Are you retarded?
What i'm saying is that i shouldn't have to waste a fucking talent tier as MM hunter JUST to have Lone wolf. Lone wolf should be BASELINE for MM hunters

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>>146456209
what went wrong with timewalking dungeons?

>>146464862
Hemet Nesinwary doesn't have a pet.

Some hunters have pets some don't. Marks has always been the spec where a pet made the least sense, now its just official.

>>146465035

All the good players have beta and are 2 busy crashing to timewalk.

>>146464985
Lonewolf is baseline for MM hunters in legion.

What are you whining about?

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>>146464438
I can't laugh about this. I feel the pain he must have felt. It's horrible.

I'VE GOT THE BEAST IN MY SIGHTS

>>146465104
No it isn't you dumbfuck
They made it a talent again after people whined about muh leveling experience

>>146463713
>Can't add an NA region starter account to my battle.net account
You can. Just ask a GM in live chat and they will add US starter with no problem. I got mine like that.

>>146456209
>>146464772
>>146465035

>>146465174
>whined about muh leveling experience
Are people really this retarded? If a spec isn't as good as others for leveling, why not chose a different one? That's like chosing healing druid while you level through quests and complaining you deal no damage.

>>146465235
>Some specs are better for leveling than others
It's literally ALWAYS been this way, and Hunter is a fucking class with 3 (THREE) DPS specs, and people seriously couldn't have fucking leveled as something else?

I can't believe Blizzard actually caved in to those retards instead of telling them to just level as a different spec. You know, that's not even all, MM hunter even has a different talent called Black Arrow which summons a shadow pet that taunts the target so you don't even fucking need a pet in the first place for leveling

>>146465174
>>146465312
Ok, I hadn't kep up on the changes in the last couple weeks, and that is pretty fucking stupid.

Europe is still shit and should be kept in its containment board though (v:

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Would you drop 18k+ achievements, various pets, mounts, full heirloom collection 1-100, numerous alts, and 8 years of your in-game life to start it all over again on a fresh account on different region? Or you would just quit the game?

>>146465480
Says the american who can't stop posting the same fucking kind of avatarfag picture over and over again

>>146465312

If I remember correctly Blizzard said that they wanted to perserve the "single pet ranged damage" fantasy since bm is a giant cluster fuck of pets now. I don't really think it has anything to do with leveling, it's just more muh class fantasy meme'ing.

>>146465483
i'd probably just kill myself
not due to that, though
due to being a dumb frogposter

>>146465518
I thought the "class fantasy" for MM was that he was some kind of sniper without a pet.

>>146465312
I can't believe huntards cried and Blizzard gave them what they want, changing a spec to something else, while monks will not be able to mog their fucking fist weapons.

>>146465483
Are you as desperate as ralph for friends?

>>146465518
No they didn't since they made it baseline for Legion until people started crying you stupid apologist

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>>146465480
>the social reject avatarfagging as a female computer game character is American
WHAT A SURPRISE

>>146465614

That's directly from a blue post, so yes they did.

>>146465643
Post source then

can't wait to see how the Brits subscription prices will go up after this whole shitshow

>>146465595
>will not be able to mog their fucking fist weapons

that's an animation limitation, moron

>Cute female in raid group
>She's a slut
>Used to post her nudes in officer chat
>Last online 4 years ago.
N-not even the movie brought her back.
:(

Might find her on /gonewild/ some day. I sure miss this though.

Anyone have slutty teammates in their guilds these days?

>>146465617
Reminder to report avatarfags

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>>146465662

You can proceed to kill yourself now. Also how does this make me an apologist? I think either situation for this change is retarded. Literally go kill yourself.

>>146465701
It won't, the situation will normalize in ~14 days and the british pound will be worth just as much as it was 2 days ago

These filters are actually removing legit posts
Someone needs to make a shortened one that just removes retarded avatarfag circle jerking and 30 year old men posting their "sexy" pixelated characters.

>>146465725
>being in a guild
some of us don't have friends, remember?

>>146465748
You're retarded

They changed it after getting feedback about it.
And do you know what that feedback looked like?

"WHERE IS MY NORMAL HUNTER + PET SPEC? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LEVEL WITHOUT A PET?"

>Full heirlooms with elemental force enchant and midsumer fire festival buff
>Just solo rush through entire dungeon in with roll/torpedo in dps stace as monk healer
>Instant dungeons all day because i queue as both tank/heal without switching specs anyway
I'm loving this stat squish meme

>>146465702
Then tell me what's wrong with current monks. They just have their weapons on the back.

>>146465851

post source then :^)

>>146465617
>Insulting someones social status on the *World of Warcraft* subsection of a Polynesian Furniture Forum.

You can pretend you are better than me if it makes you feel better, but we both know the truth.

I'm gonna look on the brightside, at least I'm not a furry or worse yet, French

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>>146465861
>he actually levels his characters
jees bruh, i woke up and my bots leveled 11 times

>>146465606
Idk, it's just everyone I once knew on EU quit playing this game. But I still somehow enjoy it and will continue to play it no matter how bad or good it has become. It's just all those things and memories I have on EU, can't make myself to leave my old account and start a new one, I need an advice of random people from the Internet on this. Stupid blizzard with their regional restrictions.

>>146465932
All Legion Class Feedback MM Hunter threads before that build

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>>146465963
>but we both know the truth.
Yeah, we do both know the truth.
You're probably on medication and have no self-esteem :^ )
Keep on truckin', Jimbob!

>>146453671
What was the update about?

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>>146453671
Well, SWToR is finally fucking dead. Nail in the coffin with their newest bullshit.

Just a few questions
>Can I still play my Knight/Warrior class here?
>What's the easiest way to test out characters?
>How's the playerbase in regards to group vs. solo content?
>Can I still play as a black guy?

>>146465035
Healers no longer know how to be proactive with healing.

>>146466167
>Can I still play my Knight/Warrior class here?

No. Warrior and Paladin classes have been removed from the game in the last expansion

>>146466008
do you have someone to play in the US?

>>146466167

I don't know what you meant by this.
You play them, I think they're adding in some trial system for character boosts in legion
There is one
You can be a Black cow

>>146466167
I noticed the thread died again

What went wrong....

>>146466167
You sound like you love memes.

>>146466167
FAAAAG

>Avatarfag got BTFO

Thank you based mods.

Is there anything interesting to get from this event except the ugly tabards?

>>146456209
>>146464772

So I just got a response

Make sure to tell me if you get any angry responses from Pandafag

>>146465861
is this legit

>>146466406
doing gods work anon

>>146466271
So I can still play as a Mage or something right?

>>146466294
>I don't know what you meant by this.
I was asking if there was a similar class to the Jedi Knight/Sith Warrior so I don't have to learn a whole new class.
>You play them, I think they're adding in some trial system for character boosts in legion
Awesome.
>There is one
One what?
>You can be a Black cow
Damn, rude.

>>146466298
SWToR is shit, and I'm trying to jump ship.

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>>146466167
You probably would enjoy playing Warrior, Death Knight, Paladin and in the expansion Demon Hunter.

By all means download the trial and play around with it. You can make a black guy too.

>>146466298
ded game

ded thread

ded guild

Seriously. Not even ONE slut in EH. I think people threw in the towel and went elsewhere

>>146466167
yeah maybe sorta no ish
PTR if you want to get acquainted with Legion builds
busy whining about pointless shit
yes

>>146466406
>Make sure to tell me if you get any angry responses from Pandafag
>implying i care about female pandas
I am not bear darling ;^)

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>>146466406
>inb4 >>146456209 didn't include the part where he insults the guys wife in his screenshot, the GM finds out about it by reading the logs and you just got >>146456209
banned for 7 days

>>146466526
>I am not bear darling ;^)
What did he mean by this?

>>146466532
>Implying I cant just feign innocence by claiming he only shared the one screenshot

LMBO

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>>146466560
it means he is not a bear

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>>146466298
I forgot to post blue

>>146466498
>similar class
SWTOR hasn't gone full prune (yet) so it's really hard to pin down similarities
if you just want melee tank/dps easy choice is Warrior

>>146466167

Jedi Knight is a reskinned WoW Warrior.
Try out the PTR. You can make a level 100 and test out talents and PvP.
Solo is eh...Legion is going to be a lot better. Group stuff is good if you have buddies.
Yes.

>>146466498
I play as a black tauren pally. I just started 2 days ago too.
No options to real option to make a character black which is rare since this is a fantasy game.
Closest I got to a black guy was a Tupac look alike

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>>146466505
>>146466515
>>146466661
Thanks so much guys, I'll try tomorrow when it's not nearing 5am.

>>146466607
>chiss
>mfw

>>146466578
What?
I don't think you understand what i said. I said that you just got >>146456209 banned for 7 days, not that you got banned

Reading comprehension anon

What's THE new bag for Legion?
The one everyone will have 3 months in.

32 slot? 34 slot?

bleh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRvO5Quqzig

Any hunters here that have Arcturis?
What's the respawn on it? Wowhead is filled with such garbage comments I can't filter out to get some decent information..

>>146466560
i am the gay one that doesnt like females.

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>friend gets pic related
>did dailies for weeks
>is annoyed as fuck because it took so long
>decide I want it too
>2 days in and only 10k left for exalted
If I tell him now that all he had to do was farm eggs, he's gonna commit sudoku. What do?

>>146466802
>i am the gay
sorry for your loss, familia

>>146466765

There's a 34 slotter from the gold sink vendor guy for 500k but it's unique equipped. So I assume tailors will make a 32.

>>146466607
Not so much prune as filter out shit no one used. Having a bunch of buttons != Good Design.

Most only used 5 buttons anyway for their rotation, plus 5-10 extra when needed.

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>>146466732
>tauren
Wait, so only black animal people? I can't play as a black human?

>>146466841
>2016
>wanting to be straight and attracted to women instead of quality husbandos
oh i am laffing.
Hope you enjoy your norminess ;^)

>>146466789
I have Arcturis, but why would that mean that i know the respawn timer on him?
I just flew back and forth between all Spirit Beast spawns in Northrend and eventually he appeared. It didn't take long either. When i arrived there he was already there. This was before realms got linked though

>>146466824
tell him

>>146466765
there's a unique 34 slot from the goldsink vendor

>>146466847
crafted 32slot was kil

>>146466885
I'm been with my missus for 6 years now, mate.
Not my problem you're socially inept and can't function as a human being.

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>>146466847
>500K
For one 34 slot bag.
What the fuck are they thinking?
Now I would buy this shit DAY 1 if it took the spot of the backpack, but I doubt that's what it's for.

Ripoff.
32 definitely sounds like the bag we'll have. Means it's not a bad idea to grab some cheap Hexweaves, they won't be going "obsolete" soon.

Have a goblin for your help, thanks.

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>>146466765
>you will still not be able to switch your basic backback because it's hardcoded

>>146466885
>ONLY SOCIETYS REJECTS ARE ALLOWED HERE
>ALL NORMIES LEAVE NOOOW
oh I AM laffing now

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>>146466956
>>146466765
>>146466954

They just explained in yesterdays Profession Q&A that there will not be a bigger bag in legion and instead there will be catch up bags for alts and such that are way easier to craft

>>146467026

expansion dropped. how am I going to hold all my order hall followe- Champion equipment items and upgrades?

>>146467026
Has nothing to do with my post, but thanks for the (you). Have one yourself.

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>>146466882
This is as dark as it gets.
It looks like he's more tan/latin to me
I just made a midnight black tauren for the memes. I wanted to make a black guy but I got turned off by what customization they had.

>>146467186
That's not too bad. Are there other body types besides that one?

And just more of an open question to the thread: is watching the movie a good way to get hyped to play the game?

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>>146466167
>Can I still play as a black guy?
Yes.

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Where the humans at?

why is the game engine so shite? framerate tanks like crazy wherever there is grass

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>>146467504
>his PC can't handle grass in WoW

>>146467447
>that face
you know you have like 10 different face options when you make a character, right?

>>146467504
The graphics engine is fine.
If you understood how computer graphics worked, you'd be able to comprehend how hard it is to actually render foliage.

Upgrade your graphics card.

>tfw soloing wintergrasp

I've heard the garrison getting essentially scrapped/ ignored in legion, is that true?

seems a shame, the fleet action stuff is kinda neat even if it is just a FB game.

>>146467718
Fuck off. There is literally nothing good about garrisons.

>>146467718
>fleet action stuff
WHAT ACTION?

There is no action. It's a god damn UI with 18 hour mission timers.

>Action
Action would mean, like, boarding your own ships and participating in a mission.

>Reality
You go to a table.
A fucking table.
Drag and drop things, hit start, come back hours later.

nice bait i fell for it but F UC K garrisons and shipyard and KYS

>>146467712
>the graphics engine is fine

except the client is it, because it's fucking 32 bit.

>>146467836
Dude there's a 64-bit client.
Get the fuck out of here and go back to the private server generals.

Your knowledge is as out of date as nos.

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>there is someone in this thread right now who is complaining about how the graphic engine of an 12 year old game is outdated

ORNERYBOY HERE, WHERE MY GOBLINS @?

>>146467326
im pretty sure that is the only one.
you can change your face, hair/hair color, skin color, and facial/other cosmetics.

>>146467830
>>146467783
I guess i'm just easily pleased, I find it kinda satisfying to level up the ships / get some resources when AFK.

>>146467830
>>146467830
but the boarding shit would be fun as fuck. why didn't they do that at the start?

What is this event? does killing the dungeon boss give me something?

>>146468046
>I guess i'm just easily pleased, I find it kinda satisfying to level up the ships / get some resources when AFK.
Then play some cookie clicker game. All the garrison single player facebook game bullshit has nothing to do in an MMORPG.

>why didn't they do that at the start?
Because they're lazy as fuck and people like you fall for facebook games.

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>>146467971
no gobs

>>146468136
I guess I should preface this by saying i'm pretty new, but the Garrison stuff doesn't seem that bad?

But if it was my one yearly expansion meant to tide me over for a year with time sink games, i'd probably be mad too.

why are talents so bad in Legion? some rows have obvious choices while in others it's impossible to choose

>>146468484

Because they took essential passives and glyphs and just made them talents.

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>>146468046
>just easily pleased
No you're a moron for thinking there is any action related to the shipyard.
There is zero.

Those sparkly treasure chests opening on mission completion do not count as action. Holy fuck all you do is drag ships, hit start, then spam space bar. You better be trolling.

>but the boarding shit would be fun as fuck.
Of course the boat shit could have been fun.
The MoP boat scenario was a lot of fun. There was a lot of potential for the shipyard. Even if they just copy/pasted that scenario and tweaked it slightly based on ship classes, and gave a couple of different "enemy" class comps, it could have been epic.

>Submarine+Battleship vs Destroyer+Carrier
Something like this would be hard mode.
>Enemy captain varies
>Fights change in a way similar to the dogs in mogu vaults.

>Make them hard enough and infrequent enough and rewarding enough
GROUP CONTENT.

WOW

But no, fuck that we can enjoy the facebook.

>>146468576
>Then play some cookie clicker game. All the garrison single player facebook game bullshit has nothing to do in an MMORPG.

>fleet action
OH
oh i'm tarded, I should have explained this one. I don't mean fleet action, i.e. doing stuff. just actions with your fleet.

but no, I get your point. I guess i'm just not bitter at it since I didn't expect much, i'm not used to / expecting to get massive expansions that last through the year, but I get your anger now.

>>146468576
MoP also had literal farmville, don't act like this is something Blizzard thought up specifically for WoD

>>146467958
I actually always thought the graphic engine is quite nice for a 12 year old game.

wow token cheaper by 3k after brexit, thanks guys

>create a trial character
>"for the alliance!" achievement pops up
>"oh cool, I recieved something in my mail"
>you need to upgrade your account to use this feature
>"oh, okay, too bad"
>2 hours later
>"man this character is whack, I'll delete it and make a new one"
>you cannot delete this character blah blah blah because he has heirlooms in his inventory/mail/whatever

???

bravo blizz

>>146468301
>Garrison stuff doesn't seem that bad
So you like having extremely profitable afking while not interacting with anyone else?

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>>146468731
But the farm was literally ignored by almost everyone I played with other than people who thought it was good for anything. Aka, the casuals.

>Farm good source of spirits
Nope. Farming MOBS was better if you weren't shit.

The Garrisons and Shipyard are both forced. Frequent participation isn't, but EVERY FUCKING TOON is required to do it if they want access to the latest (only relevant) zone.

The legendary quest is also sped up by doing missions in both the garrison and shipyard.. this "source" of the required items isn't even shared with the raid ones. You can do the raid, get your drops for the week, and you're still gonna get the legendary quicker if you do facebook shit. That's awful.

E V E R Y fucking T O O N.
In MoP you could just hit 90, ignore farmville, and suffer no consequences.

>>146467712
What zone is lagging you with Foliage?

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big knee mods when?

>no larger bags in Legion
>price of hexweave bags has crept back up from 600g to 1000g

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>>146469050
big knee draeneis when

>>146469061
how do people even need 30 slot bags when you can craft from your bank?

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>>146469050
Goblins?

>>146468731
>completely optional
>actually interacting with farm
>planting seeds
>watering plants
>getting rid of weed
>having to work to get some crops
>slowly increasing the size of the farm by getting more reputation with the locals
>stuff you get is not that valuable but can be used for cooking or increasing the reputation of other factions
versus
>everyone has to own one
>free materials doing absolutely nothing

Yeah, totally the same.

>>146468847
the movie replicas?

>>146469495
yes

>>146469543
you can mail them to the other character.
are you gonna sub?

The fuck do I try and focus on statwise, as a hunter? agility + crit? multistrike?

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Foliage
Everything on Ultra or higher.

No Foliage
http://i.imgur.com/IziET2c.png
Higher-Than-Ultra Foliage
http://i.imgur.com/Xbxmr4g.png

/console groundeffectdensity 256
/console groundeffectdist 140

>>146469665
doubt it, not now at least. I think I'll just play PTR for free. I'll let them rot in the mail for a while.

>>146469820
>those tree textures from 2004

Looks like Gathering professions are going to be quite interesting in Legion, which one pairs well with Tailoring?

How good are Blood DKs for leveling in dungeons when played correctly?

Can they still safely chain pull shit with a bad healer?

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Are professions important? Do I really need tailoring? If so how would I level/use it efficiently?

>>146470351
Enchanting :^)
no, seriously, how fucking retarded must you be to pair tailoring+gathering

>>146470376
Blood DK is the most retard proof spec in the game. I've had healers DC and not noticed till we're at a boss and then pull it anyway and pop army when I get low and then heal back up. Everyone around you can play like shit and you can just meme your way out of anything. Shit's great since everyone is garbage.

>>146470789
im doing that, ench/eng on lock main and tailoring/mining on main alt mage

>>146470923
Can Confirm, am garbage. :^)

>>146470923
>I've had healers DC and not noticed till we're at a boss and then pull it anyway
literally this
>why the fuck does the healer suddenly suck so much?
>look at party bar, he's DC'd
>lol oh well [death striking intensifies]

>>146470923
>get a whole pack of BRs in Skyreach
>they all fuck up and get cheesed on the first boss because the stand in and run through ALL of the windwalls
>all 99
>still fucking solo that faggot by threading the needle through their shitty spinner placement
>wind up dropping group because they where trapped in the wind tunnel for 5 minutes and none of them spoke english

Fuck Ragnaros, Goldrin, and Nemesis god damn.

>>146471175
>[death striking intensifies]
you got me there

So, herbs and ores no longer disappear for you when other people gather it, what about skinning? Does the corpse disappear when others skin it?

>>146470923
>Retard proof
Not what I'm seeking, but that's nice I guess.
I'm fine with something unkillable if you play at a pro level but mindlessness is a good perk.

>Healers DC and still live.
>Everyone around you can play like shit and you can just <redacted> your way out of anything. Cool.

>>146471081
You should have eng+whatever on main, herb/mining on druid alt and tailoring/enchanting on mage alt.

What's the most fun healer in PvE and PvP?

>>146471453
>having alts

>>146471453
I was thinking about double gather untill I saw the stream yesterday and since both of my characters are cloth users I would rather dump the new blood of sergaras into tailoring

What server for maximum lewd?

>>146471792
Moon Guard if you like Alliance, no cclue for Horde.

>>146455664
you really don't want to be involved with these people