/dfog/ - Dungeon Fighter Online General [Lenny... Edition]

>>146329218
>[Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
Embeddening Lenny.

Big milky knights

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>playing Vagabonds

>finish fp on the only 2 characters I care about
>nothing to do for the rest of the day
I hate this.

Newfag with a question

Is it better to do full clears when leveling or just as many rooms as I need to complete the quest? I think FP cost is per room, right?

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This is now a bully-free zone.
Do not bully vagabonds, battle mages, female brawlers, avengers, knights and soon-to-be nerfed classes in general.
They all deserve some love!

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>>146329663
Watch some anime

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>>146329506

>>146329701
I just go straight to the boss unless I need to kill more dudes or get more items for the current quest, which is very rare

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F gunner...

>>146329701
Always rush to the end if you are just leveling (you get most of your exp from quest and dungeon clears), unless you are also looking for something on these extra rooms.

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MAKE A ROOM COWARDS

>>146329967
Nichibros was not anywhere near as good as nichijou

>>146330254
Will you be my girlfriend if I make a room?

fuck me i want to save money im buying a fucking lib katana

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Vetala is a slut

I hope this game dies again

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>>146329894
nopan-chan...

>>146329894

What about my always fucked WM?

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>get set piece for my class from chron pot
>it's a piece I already have

>>146330254
How dead is PvP anyways? Will I be able to learn as a shitter or do the only people that still play are the autists with over a thousand hours, like most fighting games?

>>146331324
Only pvp if you have rare clones, best emblems, epics/legends

>>146331184
shit show

>>146331584
You're shit.

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>>146330336
>wanting miridia to be your gf

ge

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>>146331002
>create a WM was my first character
>game feels really challenging even on low-mid level dungeons
>make some alts
>game isn't hard, it is just that WM is shit at doing damage and interrupting the enemy as often as possible, so I have to deal with even the simplest boss gimmicks all the time
Alts were a mistake.

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>>146329894
>no mention of beggy
BECKY!

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>>146330832
Please do not say such things about someone's else fiancée.

>>146332714
That goes without saying. Loli bullying is wrong everywhere, so please do not bully our resident loli boss!

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>>146333329
do not be fooled

becky is a homunculus and is a lot older than she appears

>>146333509
Becky is in yuri with my witch, she's legit

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It's time to be productive, /dfog/

>neople dumbed down levelling (again) so people can get to endgame faster
>endgame only has a few parties active and the pubs that are left throw shitfits if you make any mistakes or leave if they have to wait more than a few minutes for new players

well

okay

>>146334556
i want to be re-productive with sword mom

>>146335312
DFO global is too young, and they're trying to make it grow too fast.

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>>146330832
>>146333329
I'm going to marry Vetala!

>>146335514
Get in line anon

>>146329967
what are some good comedy anime I can watch with my ten-year old brother?

He saw me watching Konosuba and he enjoyed it a lot more than I thought he would. I chose to skip the succubus episode though.

dungeon fighter

>>146335312
I feel like the only shitty pubs are still in OV since I had one of my best pub Anton runs today. Ironically enough, the pubs I've had who have thrown shitfits in Anton are usually the ones with shitty gear when people make it out to be the opposite.

I think the main "lack of parties" problem is partially because people don't step up and make their own parties. Many people are willing to join parties but few are willing to start their own.

>>146336129
Tom and Jerry

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>>146324853
Avatar simulator is missing some pieces (and I got lazy while looking for a good top), so I'm sure it is possible to make something better than this.
And you don't need to wait, just img swap these avatar pieces with some other avatar set (like mileage sets) using DNF Extractor.
http://dnf.exrpg.com/avatar/1761B775376879C0D7687C205F17687273961ADB3B7686FFCD76874DB8768772B7F1.html

>elementalist lives

my favorite class to stalk will not die!

>>146336954
but the best part about dressing my dark elf as a slut is letting others see her dressed as a slut..

also, i haven't tried modding my game
thanks tho, will keep this in mind

>>146336129
Nichijou, OPM, Gintama, Valvrave.

Since Necromancy is being removed and replaced for edge benders, have we found out what the new skill is and if it's any good?

>>146337707
The new skill is so good that they decided to bring Necomancy back and put the silly "sword mastery" damage bonus from the new skill on Necromancy.

>>146337707
Necromancy wasn't removed, just altered slightly.

The new skill ended up being scrapped and added a passive component to Necromancy.

>>146331420
Emblems don't apply in PVP

>>146337841
>>146337847
but is necromancy good yet

>>146338020
>25% damage on frozen enemies

>>146337857
shh

>elementalist loses one build
>barely changes overall damage otherwise

D A U G H T E R

How will Neople get people to even run Anton normal at this point? The dungeon's so dead that it's as much of a meme as PVP. It's just content that's rotting.

They'd probably have to do some super fucking amazing event to get the playerbase to run it. However, after the event ends the place just become dead again.

At this rate Global will never see the raid because Neople thinks that it's a waste of time to add it since no one is even touching normal. They're actually right in that case.

>>146338620
trannymisu lgbtfo

>>146338728
You know how every time someone asked about anton raid on their streams and they always dodged the question about when it was getting released

They must have had knowledge that this new anton awakened mode was coming because it makes complete sense

It only requires a party of 4 to complete instead of full 20, and you still get raid rewards for doing it too

They'll end up adding that version and probably never the real raid, but it'll be enough to satisfy all the whales and people that would actually be able to run it

>>146338620
Elementalist is literally now princess class.

She needs serious gearing and funding.

>>146338728
>How will Neople get people to even run Anton normal at this point?
Making the levels actually fun.

>>146337158
>lives
barely

>>146339481
>completely unchanged
>barely lives
so ele is wheelchair right now?
then why do people even play her?

>>146339531
damage control

>>146339531
because cute, almost as cute as witch

>>146339672
>>146339749
omg lol

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>>146338620
>elementalist loses the only build that lets her do damage
>barely changes overall damage otherwise (which is nothing to note since her only damaging skills still are sesto/storm/gate and fvv while everything is shit)
>Dark goth in for changes
Hahahahahahahahahah
Nice "Daughter" hahahahaha

>>146338728
We will probably get Anton Raid with the newest balance patch and Awakened mode. So, probably next year after the next AiO patch.
I think the only way to make people play Anton Normal eventually is to introduce some sort of "Anton Easy", like OV's tutorial mode, or maybe some sort of event with more rental shit. Or just accept that DFOG can't into PARTY CALL and make everything solo-friendly.

>Amaretto didn't quit ele at all
>still continues to fund and whale ele

lol

>>146339831
dumb mugposter.

>>146339234
raid gook said it requires near sell party quality gear to clear

so yeah, at least the 1% of the population mega whales will be happy

the rest of the 99% wont touch it

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>>146339859
my true waifu

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>>146338728
>>146339841
I guess no one wants to party with randoms and would rather just party with friends or guild mates, but I have a feeling people don't have enough friends and guilds probably have their own cliques within.

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>>146339531
Here's the thing friend, she's barely alive exactly because she was completely unchanged, had they gone through with their intended nerfs to 2nd awakening actives she wouldn't have anything left.

>>146339859
being a dumb slut

nothing new about

>>146340164
and sb would be dead if they didn't put sieg back
i fail to see the point
shit didn't make it past test
everyone that quit ele is even more retarded than all the asuras that bought tachis

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>>146341231
>I fail to see the point
The point is they NEED shit other than 2nd's actives and flame void to actually fucking do damage

>>146341476
they clearly dont
do you read your own posts (lol)

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>>146329218
THIS IS FOR LENNY!

Did Trannymisu quit ele?

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>>146341674
>"(xd) if they do demig wif only 4 skills then they gud and dnt need chengs [LUL]"

Elementalist needs all of her other skills buffed because they're S H I T currently.

Not like a braindead cocksucking faggot nigger who turns into shitposting at the very first oportunity like you would understand about class balancing in any shape or form.

But it's alright, I'll warmly wait for a not so witty reply where you try your hardest to show me who's boss here and prove yourself as the beta meme-spouting shitter you are

>>146342940
Rude haughty Ele spotted.

>>146342847
She was buying Gorgeous Invite boxes on her Rogue last night.

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>>146342940
Wrong image you slut.

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>>146340162
That is very common in MMO communities, especially when people are supposed to do a bit more than what they normally do in leveling content. Plus you have all these "anton ready" memes, people discussing minimum raid requirements all the time and overreacting because of kDnF patches, lack of "learning parties" in DFO (this kind of shit is rare as fuck, anyway), and the fact this game isn't that popular so the population isn't big enough to create a decent amount of random parties and you can't easily convince your friends to play this shit with you.
Raid is pretty much a whale-only territory anyway, so most people simply prefer to ignore everything Anton-related and make more alts.

>Rabineta's Black Heart Rod is tanking so badly

Why?

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>>146342803
bully

what is a good and cheap legendary weapon for summoner right now

>>146344520
Consumables are being restricted in raid.

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>>146344758
>tab-chan has a robot-chan tab-chan

>>146340162
People are afraid to form random parties for some reason. You check the party list and usually see no parties listed. I usually pub Anton by creating my own party and people usually join quickly. Sometimes its just a matter of being the one to create that party.

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This game is unrealistically grindy. And if you're one of the very few that get lucky and don't need months to grind what you need for one character they can easily nerf your class into uselessness not only making your character useless but also making that gear you farmed worthless so it can't even be sold. What a terrible model.

how consistent are epic drops/rewards in anton raid (kdnf)?

same rate as running a hell mode?

Is it safe to main ele now?

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>>146333830
>you will never thoroughly inspect Becky
why live

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>>146343598
>>146345238
Well, I'm only speaking as someone who solos everything anyway

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>>146346032
>witch
this makes sense

someone needed to take control of that homunculus and it wasn't going to be luke

>>146344984
nevermind just had an ebin drop on my second hell run on my summoner

>>146346032
>you will never yuri-rape your favorite lewd DFO bosses

life stinks.............

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>>146346508
i want to rape becky...

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>>146346882
>...with my tongue

>>146346882
>>146347031
>not on pixiv, or boorus
korea pls

>>146347031
Why is her hair licking her armpit

>Rabineta for 130m

MY SIDES

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>>146346508
fug...

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nice game

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>>146344758
Stop right there, mean person!

Transform: (Low-Ranking) Anti-Bully Knight!

>>146348075
>Using //setitem while in the air
You dumbass!

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>>146347149
it's so hard to find the good art of the characters you like

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>>146348142
I counter your transformation with death

>>146348385
Why is Bakal conquering Skardi's empire?

>>146328993
Please don't quit miss elementalist!

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>>146348387
gee, idk

guess lenny will just have to reincarnate into a cat girl
(lol)


>>146348493
dunno
i never seen the full pic before
>the world may never know

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>>146348142
Lenny...

>>146348560
I want to befriend an elementalist...

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>>146330254
Stop using my pictures or I'm going to whip your ass!

>>146342940
EMPHomura your cute but you aren't an ele though.

>>146349375
Pretty gay

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>no keys

>>146349839
Dum

>>146349839
get gud

>>146349901
It really is dumb that it doesn't persist through resets.

>>146349839
time to borrow mom's credit card

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>>146348639
Lenny, I...

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>>146348142
>>146350897
Why does some low ranking knight have such big tiddies?

>>146351065
that's where her brainz went

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>>146351065
she was but a humble girl not born of noble lineage
such beauty exists in the most humble places


i like to image that she was raised on a cow farm
so she got all those cow hormones from milk and yogurt, grew nice cow tits

>pic related
>lotus bullying lenny with his rape tentacle

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>>146351573
>image
>imagine*

possibly Lenny...
>hard to find

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>>146351573
>lotus bullying lenny with his rape tentacle

DELETE THIS YOU SON OF AN OCTOPUS

>>146351573
I like to imagine how cute female characters were as children. Too bad I can't draw.

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>>146352360
smt faggit kek

>>146352539
Kinda looks like a dancing speaker system desu.

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>>146352616
ALL SHALL FEEL THE WRATH OF MY TENTACLE!
BAHAHAHAHA!

>(not hentai)

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Why are legendaries gettin more and more expensive? What is this nonsense?

so what's this Mirror Arad thing? I remember hearing these are the old stages that were taken out, but how do you get there?

>>146353809
be lvl 55

>>146353809
Go through the big spooky door near all the NPCs what teleport you places.

If you can't go through the spooky door level up first.

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>do antony exploit
>dice no longer has numbers

f-fug, neople's onto me.......

>>146354078
Yes you fucked up and retried when you/turtle won

>>146354078
Does this give you all the items? i doon't really care about the buffs, event "buffs" are never really that useful.

>>146353535
Some legends are actually getting cheaper. The shitty ones, of course.
I guess that, compared to the first week of this LT update, we have less people betting a large amount of keys to get pots, and even less people opening pots because they are afraid of getting shitty legends that they can't sell on AH (and even if they did, it still would be worse than selling the pot to an NPC).
People are probably holding their keys for one last bet a day or two before the next LT update.

>>146354362
The EXP and crit% bonuses are actually pretty nice.

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>>146354362

ye

feels really nice when you get lucky and it lands on suppress 3-4 times in a single day

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>>146348387
too soon?

>no one does antony
>legends more and more expensive wtf
>only planned update is shitty guild reform
>can't be arsed to roll 10000 alts
wtf nipple ded gaem

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You guys told me Hobo F.Slayer was bad!

Would I regret investing heavily into a Demon Slayer?

I've always wanted one

>>146355359
>only planned update is shitty guild reform

only announced update

>>146355469
>still doing vilmark speed runs

the new hotness is anton solos you dumb shitter

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>>146355359

>not already having 3 asura alts and farming grandine for 500 free DI every day

?

>>146355305
>Not cumming on a printed out picture of her

Fucking casual

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why does she have to have such an ugly face?

it's just so noticeable because every other girl in the game is gorgeous.

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>>146355953
ugly?

that nose is P O R N O G R A P H I C tier all by itself

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>>146355953

>>146356135
>tumblr nose

>>146355469
>full ebins
kekkaroonie

>>146355550
Don't worry, she is a good slutslayer.

>>146352370
>I like to imagine how cute female characters were as children. Too bad I can't draw.
she was probably a spry, but lovable twerp

i too wish i could draw, but i haven't set aside the time
there's just too many niche characters out there with no art
>haven't drawn since highschool

>>146345893
it's never safe to main any fmage

>>146353842
>>146353872
oh, found it. Didn't realize I had to do a quest first.

>has a daily limit
>still drains FP

for what purpose

I'm going to assume this is one of those things that's fun to dick around with but otherwise useless, like Forgotten Land.

>willfully joining a guild called [Beta]
(lol)

>>146357150
You get ten boxes of endless eternities, exp pills and powerful energies though. It's nice for the Gerri event if you get Hameln

>>146357435
wow its nothing

>>146357659
Exactly

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>tfw no chad bf to spoil you with legendaries

nice game

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>swap bodies with beggy
>masturbate furiously

>>146357824
>Scream of Split mana is now 20% Skill Damage increase

The gook SB in Nexus stated that its a "must have" item for every ele who wish to retain their dealing rate at balance post patch.

Now buy my Scream Staff goyims.

>>146358754
I'd rather swap bodies with Miss Dick and experience what it's like to get raped in the missionary position

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCKOm3qCqVk

>>146359234
>it's late and im nosound

is this better with sound...?

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>Have to be practically raid geared for people to take you seriously in anton normals
>need full enchants like kane card, 3% crit, phys/magi, or str/int, and ele damage on acc
>need a bunch of different kinds of buff potions
>need to hope your party isn't full of autistic man children that rage quit if you screw up a bit (not likely because the top 1% in any given game usually are)
>need to have a support of some kind, NEED to have holder or APCs
>need to have +10 at least on all gear
>need your weapon to be +11 min if % class, or 8 refine if fixed as well as +10
>can't show up with a weapon less than legendary grade
>anton is super hyped as the hardest content in game
>along with all of the above comes with the stigma of only tryhard content so casuals won't join because they don't want to get blasted when they fail
>NO TUTORIAL MODE
Gee I wonder why people don't do anton normals.

>>146357824
>>146358840
And you guys said before that ele doesn't need an intensive kind of funding

>>146358892
dats hawt

you ever see that episode of GitS?
where that politician was going to that seedy geisha place?
he would swap bodies with geishas and fuck himself
this will never be a thing in out lifetime


also, people keep telling me sexual fembots will be a thing soon, but its been forever

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>>146359649
Not him, but funnily enough, I'm actually on a GitS marathon. But now I'm on a Yuyu Hakusho marathon.

>>146359440
Kane card is easier to get than you think.
Upgrading your own is way way cheaper than buying a MAX one.
Of course you have to have actually been picking up your Fused Cubes in Time Gate.
Ele damage on accessories have been given out for free twice

You actually don't need those buff potions. Seriously, try it once.

Yes, you need a support and holding, that's kind of the point of forming a party at all, because you need multiple people in multiple roles. Those roles also have much lower gear requirements so maybe you should try playing one of those

>>146360336
I fapped to fantasies about this scene quite a bit

>>146360503
>ele damage accesories have been given out for free twice
>if you missed those events then fuck you I guess haha
Gee I wonder why people don't do anton normals.

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>>146359440
Agreed. Too much stressful shit for an already dead game.

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>>146360336
that little shit, missed the shota fucking of his lifetime


also, pic related
will we never see a ghost in the shell avatar set collaboration in dfog ever

>>146361063
>Shit tier caucasian actor portraying a Japanese character
>That forced cosplay looking hairstyle
That movie's going to be so fucking awful.

Finally, another good blind deal reward.

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another close call on FP reset

Time to go to bed and do it all over again!!

>>146363367
You're fucking disgusting

>>146363367
>100lb
Pls be my gf.

>>146363363
It was a character slot, right?

>>146363897
No

>>146363897
Inventory expansion.
I'm loling at the people in mega chat that opened it on a character that already had a maxed out inventory.

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>>146349057
kys retard

>>146360503
>"Upgrading Kane card is easy! Just get lucky xD!"

sacred blessing

>>146344758
i'm pretty sure you're not allowed assists for that scenario quest

>>146369416
I'm more concerned as to why a character with 2nd awakening is doing such a low level quest.

>inventory expansion

Could be worse, I guess

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Becky got upgraded by a witch

>>146373479
This is like Windows 10.

>>146373764
>windows 10 is still a downgrade from win7
>still NO reason to upgrade
???

>>146373961
Exactly.

F brawler is getting nerfed? For what purpose?
What are they nerfing?

>>146376482
They might as well remove her from the game at this point.

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tabchan always gets bullied.

>live kdnf changes
>DT's shadow harvest gets changed to a %
>gets NONE of the buffs from the test server
>kuno, summoner, and chaos have some of their best skills nerfed by 15% or more
Lol.

>no creator or dark knight buffs
REEE

>>146378059
are you retarded

DK and creator got buffed during their first awakening patch

they can actually carry anton raid parties now with how strong they are

>>146378504
I'd like to see that.

I need some more hot gameplay tips to level faster

I'm already buying fatigue recovery, running forgotten meme for XP potions, feeding growth capsules and using the level tickets at the end of the ranges. I don't have mileage to spare for the capsules or XP potions

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>>146359440
>need full enchants like kane card, 3% crit, phys/magi, or str/int, and ele damage on acc

You don't need the best Enchants for Normals, but getting Decent ones aren't that expensive. You can still find 5% shoulder crit petit beads for cheap, and find +10 ele damage enchants for cheap too. You can get the 3% crit on belt/shoes for "free" just by doing the gold dragon tournament dailies for 5 days per bead. There's some cheap Phys/Magic attack cards too. You don't need Unique Quality Enchants in every slot.

>need a bunch of different kinds of buff potions

You don't because alot of people I party with don't even use any buff potions (including Super Armor potions during Mateka).

>need to hope your party isn't full of autistic man children that rage quit if you screw up a bit (not likely because the top 1% in any given game usually are)

The funny thing is that the ragers in Anton parties I've had are the ones with the shitty bare minimum gear, higher geared people decked out in legends/epics were usually more nice and accepting. I'm not saying this the case for everyone in DFOG this just what I've experienced.

>need to have a support of some kind, NEED to have holder or APCs

Sader and/or SB are not required to clear Anton Normal, but there's nothing wrong with wanting a holder/support since they make everything easier. If you run Anton without a holder once without being able to clear a room quickly you'll easily see why they're wanted especially in Kratek and Tartan Twins room.

>need your weapon to be +11 min if % class, or 8 refine if fixed as well as +10

That's wrong because I've seen people get into parties with just +10 Liberation Weapons

>can't show up with a weapon less than legendary grade

Seeing as they've given everybody more than enough time to get a Legendary Quality Weapon through events that shit out gold like no tomorrow ESPECIALLY the Legendary Pots this is a given. I'm not going to accept some Ranger using a Halidom Weapon.

people in the global chat act like epics will actually become account bound with the neverever kdnf patch, is this true or are they retards?

>>146379274
Costs Epic Souls, which replaced Demon Eyes, you get 1 soul per epic dissassemble

How are male grapplers in a group? Can they chain attacks long enough to disable a boss so your group can kill them, or is that strictly a female thing?

>>146379274
>>146379556
and only for epics you craft with epic frags

>>146379274
>entitled "I ran 100 hells and only got 8 ebins" megababbies
>ever not retarded

Reminder to put a post-it note over the megaphone chat window

do people buy hero pots? 40 million seems too much for a RNG box

>>146379556
how realistic is it to obtain enough of those souls to transfer a BiS epic compared to getting enough fragments to craft it?

>>146379643
i can't imagine that being the case.
that would mean it's another meaningless dead on arrival feature.

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>>146379746
>i can't imagine that being the case.
>that would mean it's another meaningless dead on arrival feature.
You're so cute...

>>146378954
You have to purchase tickets to enter the gold dragon tournament so no it isn't free. Why would you waste money one 5% shoulder crit when you can buy kane card? +10 ele still costs millions of gold IF the one you're looking for even exists on the ah. Also outside of kuno or GM there are ONLY two relevant elements, light for melee and dark for casters.

You're not disputing the fact that holders or apcs are required for an average party.

Why were % classes with +10 in the party?

>doesn't dispute the fact that leg + weapon is REQUIRED
>doesn't dispute that you need +10 in every slot
>doesn't dispute that there is STILL NO TUTORIAL MODE
>doesn't dispute that people expect you to be raid geared
Gee I wonder why people don't do anton normals.

Also a couple points I didn't mention in my first post

>majority of anton gimmicks are more subtle than OV
>most of them completely oneshot rather than doing a large amount of damage that can be mitigated by having high def like OV gimmicks
>have to go out of your way to find an anton guide and read it rather than being able to practice it on your own on some sort of easy mode
>inb4 "you can practice it on your own if you're not a shit class!"
Yea, I'd like to see an FS sader solo normal anton in FS gear.

>>146379745
I see people trying to "sell" Simona Coins (buyer chooses the pot before you use the coin) on chat every now and then. They usually don't do it more than once, so I guess they either sold it or are too shy to try again.

>>146379726
>entitled
Hello whale.

>>146379745
>40 million gold seems to much for an rng box
>despite the fact that you can spend thousands of dollars on hell mode and NEVER get the items you want

>>146380149
You're playing the wrong game if you're not expecting to get shit on by drop rates nearly the entire time you play, megababby.

>>146380382
I'm just annoyed by your usage of the word "entitled' as if hell mode lotto is good game design.

>>146380506
Sorry that you and lots of retards play a korean mmo and don't expect sub 1% drop rates.

>>146380506
>willingly subject yourself to a korean MMO
>moan over megaphone daily that the video game didn't give you what you want

Entitled.

>>146380607
So you completely ignored what I typed just so you could call me a retard? What a great personality you have. Sure your parents are proud.

>>146380640
>playing a game I like for fun
>implying I even use megaphones to whine about epic drops
>admits that he believes the hell party lotto is good game design
Hello whale.

>>146379746
>that would mean it's another meaningless dead on arrival feature.
So, like fragment system? And fragment trading after that?
This isn't something new for Neople.

>>146380149
At least on hell modes you're guaranted a lvl 85 epic, epic pot has lvl 60 epics on it and from any class, also it takes 100 days to get one. 100 days to get ONE random epic.
I fucking hate the grind and RNG in this game. So many interesting equipment but they're stuck behind a bullshit RNG wall

>>146380936
>thinks that hell party lotto isn't good game design
>plays the game anyways and complains about it
>b-but I don't though!
cute

>>146381089
>guaranteed 85 epic

fuck off luck shitters

>>146379986
>You have to purchase tickets to enter the gold dragon tournament so no it isn't free
That's why I said "free" in quotes. The entry costs for Dragon Tournaments are negligible and You can easily get the materials for it just by running Mirror Arad. The only "expensive" things about the dailies is the Glowing Magatamas which is maybe an extra 100k a day but you can easily earn more than that cost daily.

>Why would you waste money one 5% shoulder crit when you can buy kane card?
Because not everybody is Physical Damage? Kane is Physical Crit not Magic Crit.

>+10 ele still costs millions of gold IF the one you're looking for even exists on the ah.
They're still cheaper than the absolute endgame enchants like the +12 and beyond Ele damage cards.

>Also outside of kuno or GM there are ONLY two relevant elements, light for melee and dark for casters.
You're fucking retarded because nobody splits classes into "melee" and "casters" they split by Physical/Magical Damage and Element stacking is based on gear for neutral damage classes, there is no best Element to stack.

>You're not disputing the fact that holders or apcs are required for an average party.
I'm not because a party should have them. There's nothing wrong with that, Neople designed Anton to be content cleared with a composition that isn't just pure damage. You're not supposed to be able to easily clear it with something like 4 Ranges

>Why were % classes with +10 in the party?
Because a +11 is not required for Anton Normal? If you seriously think a +11 is required for Anton Normal then its clear you've never run it.

>doesn't dispute the fact that leg + weapon is REQUIRED

You should have a Legendary Weapon at this point there's no excuse with all the events they had and you don't need a +10 in every slot. You have a point on the lack of tutorial mode and of course people are going to expect raid gear when Neople gave all this fucking time to gear up for it.

>>146379986
>doesn't dispute that you need +10 in every slot

How the fuck did you even come to the conclusion that that's necessary?

The ONLY character that it even matters on is Elven Knight.
You don't even need amp for Anton normals
Even fucking Crusaders don't need amp for anton normals.

>>146381113
I play a game that I find to be fun, hell mode lotto is terrible game design so I play classes that don't need epics to be good.

>>146381089
>guaranteed 85 epic
HAHAHA
>HAHAHAHAHA
Despite the fact that there are koreans that have literally not gotten the epic they wanted for YEARS
YEARS
Guaranteed my ass. Get a reality check. Smdh desu senpai.

I could go through a whole process explaining how even getting an epic weapon to drop, let alone something you can use, let alone something that's even good, let alone something that's BiS is not guaranteed at all, and that for ONLY 40 mil gold you're GUARANTEED a weapon for your base class, and for ONLY 40mil you have a small, but reasonable chance to get your BiS epic weapon. I'd doubt you'd have the capacity to understand that though.

Please say some dumbass shit again. I need a laugh.

>>146381574
>Kane is Physical Crit not Magic Crit.

Yeah, there's Iris Fortunsinger for magic damage and she's even more expensive

>>146381654
>this is the kind of person that defends ToD pots
wew lads

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nyehehe.. broomboy...

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>>146373479

>>146373479
>>146381849
Microshills, fuck off with your """"""""""upgrades"""""""""".

>>146376706
Aww shit. She was my main. Got full rare avas and everything.
Man this sucks. At least buff hidden stinger and make it a dash move with armor then.

>>146381652
I'm not talking about amp. I'm talking about reinforce.

>>146381574
Isn't there a 9% magi crit?

Also again the enchant NEEDS to even be on the AH for most players to access it. Also +12 isn't end game. That's +15, which isn't end game either because there are +20 for specific elements.

>there's no best element to stack
>despite that bremen reduces magi def and is still the best shadow debuffer even with nerfs
>there's no best element to stack
>despite that gracia set is getting added with f.nen buffs
Get a grip.

>literally agrees with the rest of my points and doesn't dispute them
So you've literally been arguing with me for the sake of argument. My original statement was "Gee I wonder why people don't do anton normals." Which is still true. Thanks for proving me right-er.

>>146381787
>defending a guaranteed chance at an epic weapon you have a decent chance of being able to use rather than throwing money away on invites
You're really stupid if you're not just trying to damage control.

>>146382246
>I'm not talking about amp. I'm talking about reinforce.

But that's EVEN MORE retarded

>>146382341
>reinforcing your gear is retarded
New epic meme here.

>>146382397
Are you an Elven Knight?
Y: reinforce your armor, but not accessories
N: don't reinforce armor or accessories because it's just a waste of gold.

>>146382506
>having higher def is a waste of gold
>dying to random moves that aren't gimmicks and wasting healing items is OK
Really loving this meme.

>>146382246
>I'm not talking about amp. I'm talking about reinforce.
You're a retard because you don't need +10 reinforced Armor and Accessories for Anton

>Isn't there a 9% magi crit?
Yes but the point I was making is that you don't need it, you can get by with the +5% Crit Shoulder

>Also again the enchant NEEDS to even be on the AH for most players to access it. Also +12 isn't end game. That's +15, which isn't end game either because there are +20 for specific elements.
I said +12 and BEYOND are endgame, not that +12 is definitive endgame. Reading comprehension.

>there's no best element to stack
>despite that bremen reduces magi def and is still the best shadow debuffer even with nerfs
>there's no best element to stack
>despite that gracia set is getting added with f.nen buffs

You missed the part where I said it's based on your gear. If you have some Fire Legendary/Epic Weapon or Water Legendary/Epic Weapon you aren't going to fucking stack Shadow or Light Damage.

>literally agrees with the rest of my points and doesn't dispute them
Maybe you should re-read my posts because I only agreed on the few things that are actually true, most of what you've said doesn't actually happen.

>>146382651
Higher Def literally isn't going to save you in Anton.

>wasting healing items is OK
It's an endgame area you retard, of course you're expected to use consumables.

You've seriously haven't run Anton if you actually believe Reinforcing Armor makes a difference for it.

>>146382651
If something in Anton kills you, it KILLS YOU.

If you pop a healing item in any room that's not Meketa, you fucked up big time.

>>146382701
>If you have some Fire Legendary/Epic Weapon or Water Legendary/Epic Weapon
If you get a fire/water weapon without being a class that naturally uses those elements you may as well delete it. It's trash and buffing it is a waste of gold.

>don't need +10 full reinforce for anton
>calls me a retard
Maximum casual.

>don't need 9% crit
Why would anyone invite you to a party?

>don't need a 11+ weapon
Who's inviting you to their parties?


>>146382898
>>146382936
I'm not talking about gimmick damage. By not reinforcing your gear you're taking more damage from non-OHKO moves. I never said I expected to use no consumables, but why would I waste them needlessly?

>>146381654
>Despite the fact that there are koreans that have literally not gotten the epic they wanted for YEARS
Calm your autism. I meant you're at least guaranteed a usable lvl 85 epic, be it a BiS or not.

Now with epic pots, you open one on your Launcher for example, and get a bowgun/musket/auto-gun or a revolver that's not Ranger Rod, there you just blew away 40 million. But by all means keep spending your money on that if you think it's worth, goyim.

>>146383198
>If you get a fire/water weapon without being a class that naturally uses those elements you may as well delete it.

>Yin Sword and Yang Sword are Trash

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

>don't need 9% crit
>Why would anyone invite you to a party?

>don't need a 11+ weapon
>Who's inviting you to their parties?

Literally anyone because I play Crusader?

>>146383247
>you're at least guaranteed a usable lvl 85 epic, be it a BiS or not
In what world?

>Now with epic pots, you open one on your Launcher for example, and get a bowgun/musket/auto-gun or a revolver that's not Ranger Rod, there you just blew away 40 million.

Now with forced hell mode you can spends thousands of dollars worth of hell invites and NEVER GET A USABLE EPIC.

Holy shit you're stupid. Do you even understand the worth of demon invites? ToDs are a FUCKING STEAL at 40 million. For a reasonable chance at your BiS epic weap, that's worth EASILY 200 mil. Keep being ignorant though.

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>>146383198
>this whole post

Not even going to bother arguing with you anymore since it's clear you've never run Anton and are just making stupid shit up to try to get (you)s.

>>146383432
>has been arguing from the PoV of a FS sader
>invalidated his entire argument since he can wear magic seals and get anton invites
Why even bother arguing with me then?

>>146383629
>"Waah I can't come up with a counter argument!"
>"If I tell him I won't argue with him anymore it makes me right instead!"
Literal manchildren.

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>>146383592
someone get this hothead out of here

there's too much green and words i want some pics of male male now

>>146383592
>ToDs are a FUCKING STEAL at 40 million.

No, no it really isn't
There's 3 things you never do in DFO
Never buy DCs (using ones you earn yourself is alright, but selling is really the best option)
Never buy ToDes pots.
Never grind ancient dungeons expecting a legendary drop.

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>Naen apparently has an APC sprite

APC summon when?

>>146383842
Oh you're poor. Poor people usually have distorted views on reality.

>>146383592
>In what world?
In the Zelva area
anyways you just sound like a sore player who didn't get his Balmung with 500 invites, that or you never did hells at all

>>146383786
>Why even bother arguing with me then?

Because you're still really really wrong.

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Anybody want to practice in pvp? I'm super bored.

>>146383929
Nah, I'm just someone who can do proper cost/benefit analysis on gambling.

>>146383983
Doing hells in Zelva doesn't guarantee 85 epics you fucking retard. Holy shit you're so fucking dumb.

>>146383985
>"If I say he's wrong without any sort of valid argument or criticism it means I win!"
Again, manchildren.

>>146384139
>despite there being a 1 in 9000~ chance of getting an epic you CAN EVEN USE from invites a 1 in 24 of getting your BiS at the cost of 40mil gold is worse
>proper cost/benefit analysis on gambling

>>146384142
All your problems with Anton would magically disappear if you just played support or holder.

>>146384326
>1 in 24 of getting your BiS at the cost of 40mil gold is worse

>HE DOESN'T KNOW THAT THE POTS ARE WEIGHTED TOWARDS LOW LEVEL EPICS

Also, the cost is 50 million because you either spent money to get the pot or lost money by not selling the pot.

>>146384407
I play a holder, but if I'm going to spend money on reinforcing my gear and getting proper enchants and ele types why would I invite anyone without those things? I'm sure other people feel the same way.


>>146384545
Unless the pots are weighted beyond 1 in 9000 there is no possible way that ToDes pots are worse than grinding hells. Keep in mind that 1 in 9000 for hells is for a usable epic, not necessarily a weapon.

>>146384326
>he thinks it's actually a 1 in 24 chance
you poor soul

>>146384025
that's not a pvp-chan image, fuck off.

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I wouldn't be surprised if this guy who insists he is right on everything is Quionn because that's all that faggot would ever do, start stupid arguments and always insist he was in the right even when people proved him wrong, as seen on >>146383786 and >>146384142

If its really him then just stop replying because he's just doing this shit for free (you)s.

Hey guys Im a old kuno main returning, I invested a lot in this class is kuno still one of the best classes in the game?

Hows she doing in KDnF? Still top tier magic dps?

>>146385194
Kunoichi got nerfed pretty hard recently in KDNF

http://www.dfonexus.com/posts/312512/

>>146384905
>can't make a constructive critisicm or counter argument
>it must be le evil /dfog/ boogeyman
Still not a single person has proved me wrong on why anton normals are deserted.

>>146385406
>can't make a constructive critisicm or counter argument

That's funny because that's exactly what he said when he made that whole "argument" about DTs being unable to hold and Mind Control being stupid!

So are you people going to admit that I'm correct or just keep meeming on me?

>>146385194
As it stands now, you need an epic chakra that matches an OV set. But now there's >>146385396

>Open legedary pot
>HeartNeck Gore orb

great update nipple you faggots

>>146387657
Why not just compound it in the magic stone category until you get Core Stone or Disease Heart? Could potentially be worth the investment.

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>"ele damage enchants are cheap xD just get +10 ones"
>not a single rare ele card for a non meme element
>7 total cards COMBINED for shadow/light
>they're all unique and only 2 of them are cheaper than 10m.
Gee I wonder why people don't do anton normals.

>inb4 why don't you have it already goyim
>inb4 just buy gold
>inb4 just make more alts xD

>>146388083
>just buy more legendaries xD
>just get lucky xD

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>>146383912
Naen...

>>146388960
>He hasn't been doing Ancient Dailies for free Legendary Souls

>>146389623
i bet her anus is extremely tight normally and even tighter with my dick all the way inside it

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>you made an fbrawler

>>146389919
>legendary drops are guaranteed
Just like epics, right?

>>146390012
I'm talking about getting Quest Legendaries and disassembling them. You could have been doing the Noire Ferra dailies and Vilmark Dailies (Two easiest dailies that take hardly any runs to finish) this whole time and dissing the Quest Legendaries for 5 souls each.

>>146338620

Elementalists "lost" their most effective build. Full chron set up doesn't get you into raid, 9pc DFB used to put you in the easiest position that could be quickly replaced, and with the nerfs to FVV is no longer good. 3pc warden with various legendaries/epics was the best way for ele's to get into raid and eventually get enough money for epic sets.

With the void build losing a lot of its effectiveness, it really hurts the class.

>>146390170
>spend a month farming for legendaries and just get lucky when compounding xD

Next blind deal is probably pet food, isn't it.

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>>146389973

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>>146390643

>>146390443
If you're doing Daily Ancient/Reqiuem for the Repose Weapon/Appeasing Stones for Liberation attempts then you can definitely do the dailies for Noire Ferra and Vilmark at the same time since you have to run multiple runs to get 15 Frail and/or Appeasing Souls.

>>146391084
I already have my bis.

>>146391181
>Not selling Liberation for money

>>146391331
>just get lucky with the recipe xD

>>146391084
I admire you being genuine with advice, but the guy you're replying to is beyond asspained at current

Expect more 'xD'

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make a room~

>>146391556
>genuine advice
>getting a lib weapon in the first place comes down to luck
>"just get lucky xD" is now considered genuine advice
What a hot opinion.

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>search non-english sites for miss dick art
>nothing but screenshots and variations of that loading screen
>even got results leading back to that anon's edit >>146145790

im out, m8s

>>146393093
pic comes from the thumbnail to this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qVjvxSXpUI

never bothered to ask for sauce

>>146393093
The event wasn't even in Korea which is probably why there's no Korean artwork of her.

desu Miss Mystic is overrated anyways

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>>146393635
>The event wasn't even in Korea
yes, i know


i did a japanese language search

>>146388729
>Fire element has Admiral Beornan Cards for +11 element at 1m a pop during events
>easiest to obtain +20 card

>Water element can just get away with Quong'Qng until a card event pops up and they can get the cheapest +12/+15 enchants of all the elements.

>Shadow cards have a ton of cards from regular ancient dungeons
>top end cards are excruciatingly rare for no particular reason.
>practically everything between cap and anton resist shadow, but every shadow-locked class shits out shadow damage/resist drops so whatever


>Light damage is a FUCKING MEME but not a lot of enemies resisted it when Ancients/Outerverse was DA META.
>But it's okay because GRACIA and FNENS

Every element has their own special bullshit for enchanting, anon.

>>146395167
>anton mobs have negative light resist
>gracia set is coming out
>fnen buffs too along with SB nerfs
>Light is somehow the meme element despite the fact that she buffs light damage
You wrote all that to invalidate it with one line. Nice job.

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post your class, rp and iq

>>146395490
I meant to imply it's hard as fuck to enchant.

It's the morning, I haven't had my coffee, forgive me anon

>>146395636

ranger
2k
175

>>146396292
I'm sorry for being a jerk as well. I was overly hostile and didn't need to be.

the attack damage from a requiem weapon stacks with other % damage items right? the detailed info doesn't have the "Multiple % damage bonus don't stack"

>>146396442
there's no 2k ranger (lol)

>>146396861
yeah req and lib weapons have elenore effect which stack

>>146396912
If you keep saying "(lol)" I'll turn you into my personal breeding sow!

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>tonight we'll find out if the lying terminally ill gook of false promises and whale slaying was really fired.

>>146397515

Last stream they said he was going to be focusing on events more instead of streaming so we know he didn't get fired. Punished if anything.

>>146398010
I thought Gerri literally said he was fired and then Danjun told her not to say that.

why did the gook get fired again?

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>>146398624
I remember them saying he was pretty much put to work in another department, so essentially, no more fun stream time for him.

>>146398836
Having too much fun with loli (not hentai)

>>146398624
That was a joke like when they said danjun was. eventually further into the stream they say he's working on events.

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>>146285385
so is he going to be dressed as Sorus, dark lord?

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>>146399294
and what exactly is a spiral cat?
twisting pussy? like a quality onahole?

>>146399538
I want to rest my head on those thighs

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>>146399538
>basic bitch
there will never be mom cosplay
maybe

>>146399790
Nah, if she cosplays a F. Slayer it will probably be Vagabond because Vagabond is popular in DFOG I blame the retarded weebs

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>>146390850
R A R E

>>146378059
They probably undid the DT buffs when they realized the new Shadow Harvest actually shreds more defense at lower ranks than the current one, making it really only a nerf to anyone who stacked Shadow Harvest. It's a higher shred until about level 40 Shadow Harvest.

>>146400784
god what a shitty waifubait character