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hyur edition.

>Summary from the latest Live Letter:
http://pastebin.com/x3petsBx (embed)

>Current Event - Summer DLC Campaign (June 14—27)
http://www.ffxivredeem.com/

>Patch Notes:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/197e9c8b2f04efdecffe26bebe43b40551d1e3e8

>Resources, Guides, Free Companies and Linkshells:
http://pastebin.com/raw/p88PqskL (embed)

>Previously on /xivg/...
>>146300032
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hyur boypussy
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cat
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>>146323345
whats her name... i want to protect her
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(you) farming is so fucking easy

tincan why are you so shit at it
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naka bp
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>>146323202
thank
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*winks*
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>>146322581
>>146323251
explain this to me as someone who hasn't leveled NIN

i get that ninjas are always wanting to wait for something but i don't really get what or why
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haha oh shit I said something dumb and everyone is calling me out on it what do I do to get out of this

oh I know I'll just pretend that I was acting retarded on purpose all along
"h-hehe thanks for the (You)!!
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>>146323251
a skill that sets and freezes huton and resets the mudra cooldown would solve a lot of the pull issues ya
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>>146323513
naaki
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>>146323540
It is probably their huton. They want to set it up and wait on their timer for their opener.
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>>146323612
What are you talking about?
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will we ever get more options for faces and hairstyles? the current selection has gotten really stale

>tfw arr used to look so stunning and diverse to me
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>>146323513
fat croc tail
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>>146323375
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i got somethin in me eye
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>Sastasha
>pull ahead of tank once
>tank makes passive-aggressive comment
>tell them I used to be passive-aggressive too when I first tanked
>advise them on better tanking
>ignores me but makes a point to give detailed thanks to the healer's advice
>tell them to visit Hall of the Novice and complete their Class quests after boss because I noticed they never used their tomahawk
>"oh fuck off"
>reported
>tank was a female miqo'te
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>>146323796
yeah i know but what the fuck is huton and why does it need to be 'set up' and why do they need to wait on a timer for said opener
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There should be a mages only ls
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>>146323761
no

>>146323817
disgusting
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>First class discussion in a long time that isn't AST vs WHM shitposting, but instead is SMN vs. BLM shitposting

Hey, at least it's some discussion.

How does everyone feel about the Fields of Glory? I'm trying my hardest to like it since all I do with my time is PvP but it just feels like a thinly veiled training dummy mode. And I'm not just referring to practicing my rotation on all of the braindead Adders on Primal.
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>>146323915
don't hide from your past
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>>146323540
It's for their opener, to get an optimal opener with trick attack and other ogcds they need roughly a 22 second pull macro depending on what opener they use with suiton

>>146323625
Absolutely
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autistic melt dooOoWNn
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>>146323540
basically you need to use a buff thats on a 20s cd before you pull but the same cd is also tied to other skills you need for the actual opener.
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Anyone want to spend all week in a7s together
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>>146323202
No?

There's many examples of good face 3(I think it's 3, I just know it as drumstick head)s out there, their bedroom eyes give them such a massive advantage as is
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HYUR WINS
HYUR MASTER RACE
>>146323953
>class
THOSE ARE JOBS
J O B S
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>>146323915
>sandals
Aaaw baby.
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>>146323969
OH LETS MELT IT DOWN!
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>>146323915
>bridesmaid tights with that top
More please.
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>>146323879
You set it up with a mudra, and then wait for the mudras to come off cooldown so they can activate another as the pull happens. Within my opener I use 3. Set-up huton, wait 20, suiton, kassatsu and hold that to use Raiton after Trick Attack.
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Messin' stuff up with my crew
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>>146323915
naaki
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>>146323964
literally what
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>>146323878
you were being an asshole. just because you think you're a hot shot badass doesn't make it acceptable to antagonize somebody you're playing with, especially not a tank. if you have advice, give it. otherwise be patient and work WITH the people you're playing with instead of only thinking about yourself. nobody likes players like you
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>>146323915
>tfw you're now facing the brunt of the naaki meme

PLEASE ENJOY IT
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>>146323828
cute cat man
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face 3 ww@
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hey
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>>146324149
naaki why did you cuck me
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>>146324338
hello jizzard lizard
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>>146324292
Face four is Better
I'm not Au Ra though
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>>146324338
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>>146324239
its ok because my au ra is the one he based his off of

its flattering

>>146324361
because youre gay
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post action and yotube
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>>146324292
naaki suck my peepee
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>>146324175
>you were being an asshole.
Because I wouldn't be a doormat when they decided to talk down at me? I absolutely love shitting on people within the confines of the rules, there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
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post character and youtube
https://youtu.be/hnaqWs5xhn4
>>146323513
>>146323202
Face 3 would be the best one if it wasn't for the gross horns.
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I'm a lizard with some friends.
:3
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>spamming emotes in chat
spam a knife into your chest
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>>146323234
meowing!!! 'w'
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>>146324040
I'm going to call them jobs as much as I want and there's nothing you can do about it, anon!
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xth for thrills n' chills
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>>146324415
lol
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>>146324514
hey did you know


drg has this skill


let me use it 50 times to show you how cool it is while I emote you each time
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>>146324470
naaki suck me
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>>146324464
>see this update
>wonder if some sperg will post it
>later
>some gay sperg posts it
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WHERE THE FUCK IS KAISER BEHEMOTH
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>>146324441
Face 4 is awful.
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>>146324595
can I nut on your butt?
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xth for anything CUTE
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>>146323234
>not posting the nude version

Also post XIV art!
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>>146324464
I couldn't even tell that was them, you seem obsessed desu.
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>>146324486
shut up naaki
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>>146324752
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We're like brothers...
Only closer.
:3
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Elezen Female x Miqo'te Female best pair.
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>>146324485
as a tank who, two years ago started out a shitter that needed to be talked shit to and be told he wasn't doing things right in order to realize anything was wrong at all, i can confirm that you are what the game needs.

and fuck anyone of any role or job who gets defensive and responds to advice with "fuck you". if you weren't actually factually garbage i wouldn't have spoken up, i do this for you as much as i do it for myself.
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>>146324824
Because the picture didn't need to be nude to be good.
Also imgur uncensored if there is one or gtfo.
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>>146324752
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXXAxRMh9xc

Anyone else feel like they're going insane cause of /xivg/? Every single time I look at the thread my brain feels chewed up and regurgitated to experience the same thing yet another time.
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xth for stupid Allagans and their stupid constructs.
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>>146324909
go to work stratos
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>>146324930
there isn't one
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>>146324752
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>>146325016
same i hate this place
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Lonely miqote looking for friends...

PST...
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>>146324743
wut
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>>146325187
Does this Miqo'te want to experience the miracle of childbirth...
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>people still can't clear final steps of faith DF
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>>146324707
>Best horns
>Best scale pattern
You can have your fat face and Xbox horns though
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>>146325192
splatter the batter on your bum, are you dumb?
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>>146325016
Not really. This thread has a extremely minimal impact on my day.
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>>146325135
Fug. I saw the censored one and didn't save it because of it. Was hoping there was one.

>>146324824
Moar art.
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>>146324909
It's cute to imagine
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>>146325295
>FAS face
>chinstrap
no thanks
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>>146324825
dumb skin and hair colors check
dumb glamour check

ez pz
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>>146323234
Midlanders a shit, Highlanders a best
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>>146325289
>MT ALWAYS TAKES LEFT DRAGON
ok then why didn't you grab the right dragon at all
>YOUR LEFT
nice adapting

>can not vote for abandon until 15 minutes have passed
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>>146324292
I miss how constantly annoyed face three is.
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>>146325315
nice rhyme
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>>146325440
>>146325440
>>146325440
>>146325440
>>146325440

Diapie time that early?
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Which anon bought too many fanfest tickets and would be willing to sell me 2
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>>146325605
I miss you.
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>Highlanders are ugly cave people
>Female Au Ra look like they have a disorder
>Lalafell in general
>The rest have one or two ugly faces
Why does SE even make ugly af race/face types an option? Like, really.

>SE will never expand the character creation aside from new hairstyles every patches
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>>146325472
That's face one
This nigga don't like bearded dragons
>Wanting paks face
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>>146325527
rude
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>>146324924
>you are what the game needs
>lol'd
That part was true, about how I behaved liked them when I first tanked. I recognized that shit immediately, "yeap, that's totally something I would say as some shitter beginner". They even stopped once for their cooldowns.
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>>146325289
I just don't do Trial Roulette.

I just can't. I always leave it feeling defeated.
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>>146325263
If it means replacing the void inside with anything...
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>>146325676
face 1 is a different kind of syndrome
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>>146325536
It's Sephirot EX all over again.
>"dps stack right leg"
>Stack on his right leg
>Healers stack there too.
>"um...hello? right?"
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>>146324909
Cute, though I prefer fem elezen x malecat or male elezen x femcat.
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>>146325016
this place is a source of endless entertainment
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>>146325657
>implying Lalas aren't cute potatoes

Shit. Taste. Detected.
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Can I be avatarfriend too?
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>>146324707
face 4 and 2 are the best
4 mostly tho

>>146325472
>arguing FAS when all of them look fas as fuck
lmaoooo ok
also the scalebeard is cute
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>>146325678
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>146325641
Didn't I just visit you yesterday?
I can come by tonight if you would like.
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>>146325860
>Lalas
>Cute
[citation needed]
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>>146325954
That'd be nice, maybe I'll pick another spot that isn't under a tree in the blizzard.
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>>146325536
>>146325812
>left
I nip that shit right in the bud, not a hair of a second passes before I break typing records with "use cardinal directions! What the fuck is "left"!"
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>>146325678
Ironically ugly characters are still ugly.
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>>146325527
I ain't the type of brother made for you to start testing.
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>>146325527
Can't we just get along?
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>>146325865
It takes time, patience, and some drama in order to become an ebin, pirate-anon. Are you up to the task?
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>>146326049
Ah, that's no problem. I honestly thought you were a levi friend for a second.
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>>146325527
I know it falls to subjective opinion, but my favorite clan in this game is midlander and no other race has given me reason to change that..
It's why despite all my fantas, I always returned.
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>>146326054
How does cardinal directions help when Sephirot moves around the room during P1 due to green sphere shit? That just makes it more confusing.
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Good way to farm gil? Did my daily stuff already. Not a crafter either. Just need gil for the relic quest items.
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>casually browsing danbooru
>see pic
>tfw wearing same coat, same hat, same color even similar hair color (not same skirt) since 3.2 ish
It's almost like i was drunk and paid a comission without knowing, though kind of felt wrong as people would now think i copied it.

>>146325381
You can just look at one of boorus, if the source it's twitter it's more likely that there won't be lewds.
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>>146326080
love this gay ass boy
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>>146326149
post nudes
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Post Brown women.
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>>146326145
Of course not, I'm the only person that's bluer than your cat!
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>>146325527
>Highlanders
>cave people with faces that look like it got hit by a truck
>Ever besting Midlanders
Lmfaoooo
Not even the highlander male physique can save their ugly faces.
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xth for big beefy roes
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>>146326191
I figured as much, just tend to still see art posted here that I otherwise miss.
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>>146326154
Cardinal directions are set, fixed positions. Referring to things like "left leg" can get shitters confused between the actual left leg of the boss or their own left.
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Yes please.
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>>146326345
>boss is facing away from group
>player left and boss left are the same
???

If people can't figure out left or right they definitely aren't going to figure out cardinal on the fly as you move around the room.
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>>146326252
>>146326149
>>146326105
>>146326080
>>146325678
That was easier than I though. Man you guys are insecure.
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>>146326408
what a slut
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wtb interior decorator
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>>146325192
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>>146326138
Sounds taxing.
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>tfw you know you have a fanta on an alt
>search for item
>no items found
FUCK. I think I discarded it while trying to discard a high elixir. Fuck me. First a stack of unidentifiables, now this. ;____;
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>>146326305
>>146326305
Fug.
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Realistically speaking, what could they actually release a future healer, BESIDES Dancer, which barely fits the healer aesthetic/theme as is? Chemist?
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Remember to follow your dreams /xivg/
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>>146326515
>I did it for the (You), guys!!
Here, have another.
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>>146325527
>Highlanders a best
>tfw even Highlander appreciators don't like mine
>except one or two rare lurkers
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>>146326623
rather just have samurai like when only rogue came out

focus making the game better
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>>146326320
Your best bet is making a pixiv account, the only problem is having to search for specific stuff but you can just type out ffxiv and you'll get everything for this game. Otherwise you'll have to lookup the japanese name.
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>>146325940
changed my name so people would stop with that shit i didn't know it was a meme.
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>>146326515
>baited xD

You were fine until this post.
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>>146326670
That is incredibly bad advice for life.
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>>146326695
Because you look like shit, not that all highlanders look like shit.
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>>146323021
If you need to hit from the front it should always be dancing edge, its higher damage for you than missed positionals and doesnt change anything for the warrior because they need to rotate a storms combo for maim.

Examples would be during Nidhogg Akh Morn, Purple Jails in A7S, etc
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>>146326623
>Dancer
>Healer
Stop this meme. They were only a healer in XI and that alone.

Also yes, Alchemist as a combat job. The guildmaster being in Thavnair or something because apparently that's where Alchemy is best.
Geomancer is also an option I guess.
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>tfw sitting alone
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>>146327007
>They were only a healer in XI and that alone.
Because they ran out of other jobs to give the healing role to.

Guess what else is in trouble of having that happen
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>>146326305
straight up beefy
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>>146326623
blue mage will be a sch ripoff and you know it.
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>>146327008
>tfw rotting away alone
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>>146327007
>they were a healer in the only other FF MMO installment

Do you see why its not a stretch?
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Does /xivg/ make use of guildworks?
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>>146327008
sit with a cat
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>>146327008
What's the point of such shitposts velvet? No really answer me. And then you're fucking surprised people shit on you
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>146326515
>quotes me admitting it's subjective taste
>HUE INSECURE
Ended too quickly. 2/10, try harder for more(You)s from me
>>146326735
Way ahead of you. I generally like browsing the art for this game, and finding new sites is always nice. Been lurking on pixiv for a while now.
Speaking of, I need to go write down the hyur tags on there.
>>146326978
Ok so i am not a retard for doing that, I am relieved. legitimate thanks to you anon.
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Are we getting a new class, race, or both?
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Help! I need help!

POST

SOFT

MIDLANDERS
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>>146327324
why should i?
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>>146327186
>Blue mage has a little morbol summon that you spend your 30-50 quests getting to barf on you to learn stuff
More Bulemiage
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Can they fuck off with the fake queues already?

Why do they still make me have to click the login button, close the queue of 1-50 people and then login again? Nobody is fooled by it.
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Anyone on Balmung selling a fanta?
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>>146327007
>Stop this meme.

Re-read my post, I already said it barely fit the healer theme, chico. I just mentioned Dancer because whenever someone mentions a new healer everyone goes
>DANCER

>Alchemist as a combat job
Which would be Chemist, like I said.
Or Salvemaker. Either way, I'd like to see a healer use TP and skills rather than MP and spells.

Geomancer possibly, but that feels like a stem off of the Conjurer class route, and that they said they'd never do again.

>>146326726
We're definitely getting at least two classes, and Samurai has basically been confirmed as one of them. Red Mage will most likely be the other.
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>>146327393
How much are you offering for one?
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>>146327223
Oh? DRK wasn't a DPS in XIV like it was in XI.
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>>146327324
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>>146327324
seo isn't around can i take a message
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>>146327369
gimme bussy
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>>146326978
>its higher damage for you than missed positionals and doesnt change anything for the warrior because they need to rotate a storms combo for maim.
I tell this to NINs all the time during shit like phase changes but most are just "what why isnt storms eye up???"
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>>146327324
>soft
going to need help on this one. What are you asking for?
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>>146327260
`Who is this?
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>>146326623
Red Mage is the closest to how healers in FFXIV work, thematically.

I'd rather they rolled dancer into Mystic Knight.
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>>146327458
Okay, but how does rule out the possibility of dancer being a healer exactly?
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>>146327464
post ts butt
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>>146327008
I should get around to leveling, I don't think you want to sit around Ul'dah.
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>>146327324
>soft
That doesn't even exist in this game. Every one in this game is thin as hell, breasts are too small, and females lack any kind of ass.

This isn't the game for soft.
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>>146327445
Alchemist/Chemist/Salvemaker same thing.
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>>146327324
I'm bored and waiting for node so sure why not
>>146327462
my favourite
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>>146327324
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>>146327473
n0
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>>146327236
I think some of us do. I use mine to help keep in touch with people I've played with, and recently I'm going to upload a series of pictures involving a certain theme.
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>>146327610
Dancer doesn't really fit this game unless they make it like RO where dancers were actual archers.
Fucking vulcan arrow was great.
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>>146327775
>DNC wouldn't fit in this game
How not? Just make them melee healers, using TP to heal.
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>>146326456
My bad, was being a shitter myself and thinking of P2, where Seph is facing the party.

Cardinal positions at least allow room for no dispute, like with Nidhogg and the dragons spawning in those positions. That DF faggot was using the vagueness of the relative word "left" to cover his own mistake.
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>>146327707
>>146327683
>>146327462
>>146327369
NONE OF THESE ARE SOFT!

GIVE ME SOFT!!!!!
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>>146327843
A TP healer would be a great way to throw all balance out the window.
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>>146327729
gimme da bussy or i'll nerf your class
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>>146327613
It means that the possibilities of it being anything other than a healer is there, and more stronger by the fact that it's never been a healer in any other FF game, but a debuffer.
Dancer as a healer is shit anyway, and we don't need any more healers after that trash that's called AST.
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>>146327452
1.5m, but it seems like I already got a bite.
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>>146327904
what do you mean by soft then
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>>146327917
>muh balance
Fuck off, Yoshi.
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>>146327729
I miss slamming you before you were a meme drinker.
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>>146327464
whats wrong with that au ra's face
it looks worse than this edit
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>>146327904
read:>>146327521
Define soft.
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>>146327917
>"GET BACK TO TWERK" macro'd into goad
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>>146327843
TP regens way too fast, also
>melee healer
Ever heard of cleaves?
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>>146327775
EO Dancers are basically healers that are aura healers/buffers that don't happen right away. Could basically be the same thing, AoE Healing aura, Mitigation Aura, Damage Aura

They can require combos to put up, and have a lower base GCD and a couple GCD heals that wont break combo.
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>>146327312
2 new jobs, probably 1 new race or not.
>>146327610
>Mystic Knight/Dancer combined and they do sword dancing
Yes, please SE.
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The next healer is almost certainly going to be based on debuffs. It's the only niche that fits.

>WHM is straight heals
>SCH is mitigation
>AST is buffs
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>>146327683
fastest way to ruin a character
>lighting hair
into the trash it goes
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>>146328056
>Define soft
S
A
W
F
T
SAAAWWWWFFFFFFTTTT
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>>146327843
That sounds shit because TP is set at 1000 for all characters at all levels.

>idiot dancer uses sprint because he's used to free access as a previous healer
>"g-guys i cant heal im oot!"
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>>146328143
If this tunes up the way they've made the game so that debuffs and poisons and such are useful again I'd be all for that.
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>>146328083
>Ever heard of cleaves?
uh, melee stands behind bosses. unless you meant having to physically slap your healing targets which would be literally retarded esp since they'd need some kind of medica-range aoe slap to even be taken to trials and stuff.
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>>146327926
u wouldn't dare...
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>>146328009
I missed you not posting, pissman.
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>>146328179
It's one of the few good hairstyles that doesn't get ruined by headgear
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>>146328197
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>>146328210
Whats so bad about having infinite sustain with inherent burst healing/action problems

Its not like spamming cure1/regen will actually lose you mana over time if you include shroud and freecures. They could have big burst TP usage and regen comparable to DRK dark arts
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>>146328197
HOW YOU DOIN
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>>146327917
Not him but
>balance

Yeah, try telling that to the current healer meta where SCH shits on everything and is mandatory for raids while ASTs and WHMs kill each other over the second spot.
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>>146328240
I'm gonna nerf that class then I'm gonna perf that ass.
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>>146327186
If they manage to make BLU in this game then they have to break from that strict skill limit they have for all jobs and that it's gonna be a job that's customizable, or make it some tank with the illusion that it can do anything and that it retaliates with the monster's own attack blah blah.
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I'm a lizard on a ____
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>>146328360
>Its not like spamming cure1/regen will actually lose you mana over time if you include shroud and freecures.

Only shitters spam cure I and regens. MP can go by really fast if you're dpsing as you should.
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I'm a cat, I reckon.
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>>146327843
this is the dumbest fucking idea that gets floated every time this gets brought up

no healer should ever use TP jesus christ
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>>146328520
>Implying

All they would have to do is make each job quest something to do with defeating/interacting with a monster, and then you get that ability. It'd play like every other class in the game with your stereotypical 1-2-3 combos and such.

There'd be no "customization" it'd be a bastardized version of the class.
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>>146328530
Im not saying you should, Im saying sustained mana usage isnt generally what runs you out, its big burst med 2/cure 3/cure 2 on tank buster.

Raising could cost 800 TP as long as they regain TP in a reliable way where they would have to burn a CD like invig to get back really fast into healing is what I mean. That or they could use both TP and MP to do their actions
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>>146328469
time to reroll
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>>146328143
>tfw want a cleric melee healer really bad
>uses a shield and a flail, along with debuffs and temporary cover like abilities/ehp buffs to help soak damage without being a direct clone of SCH
>damage dealt will be converted into hp for your targets current target
>mfw will never happen
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>can't keep up with demand
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>>146328658
Duh, that's why there was that second option.
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>>146328695
Re ROLL THAT BOY PUSSY
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>>146328565
What did your girlfriend say?
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rate my snowflake?
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>>146328861
needs dsl
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>>146328861
3/10
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>>146328817
+1
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>>146328861
2/10, solid effort.
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>>146328861
garbage
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>>146328861
black hair red highlights reeee
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>>146328847
I don't have a girlfriend goddamnit.
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>>146328704
You pretty much just described Paladin.
>shield
>covers allies
>can heal
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mid-thread sneering
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that cancel pre order thing still work for the code?
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>>146328964
that looks pink to me
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>>146328670
>Im saying sustained mana usage isnt generally what runs you out, its big burst med 2/cure 3/cure 2 on tank buster.

Yes ofc aoe healing will always have the biggest impact on mp. The issue is that TP restores itself too damn fast and runs out too quickly incase you need to spam healing.

If a equivalent to cure III costs, lets say, 500 tp, and a equivalent to medica costs 250 you can only cast it 2 cure III twice or cure III+2-3 medica.
Though on fights where you're not required to burst, you'll be able to dps and heal non stop due to how fast tp restores itself.
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>>146328985
You told everyone you did, was that a lie?
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What if SAM is a tank and RDM is a healer because they don't want to introduce anymore DPS?

What if they made SAM an alternate choice to WAR as an off-tank and RDM an alternate choice to SCH and deleted Nocturnal Sect, altogether?

That way you'd get to choose between DRK and PLD for main tank, WAR and SAM for off tank, WHM and AST for main healer, and SCH and RDM for off healer?
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>>146327324
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>>146327008
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>>146327324
>>146328197
I'll take the chance anyway. Beats all this mining I'm doing at the moment.
>>146329067
It should, yes.
>>146328861
The face, to me, looks like someone just stuck something into her ass while she wasn't looking. Also lose the highlights.
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>>146329252
Are you confusing me for someone? I have an in-character gf that's for rp. But we're just friends ooc.
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>>146329379
I'm not, Kay. You told people you had a girlfriend in real life.
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>>146327324
Is this soft?
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>>146329256
I'm okay with SAM being a tank but I'd rather have it be a DPS
>more tanks that use swords
For RDM, they'll probably do something crazy like making it possible to switch from DPS and healer role and be a support/MP bitch like it was in FFXI.
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>>146329432
Is this rhiki?
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>>146328987
Except not really because PLD can't give hp buffs or siphon hp from their target and give it to others life I already mentioned.

>PLD can heal
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>>146329491
I still don't know who that is.
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>>146329242
Exactly, It can excel at non burst healing intensive fights and have skills like Invigorate to circumvent areas where high healing is needed, basically a divine seal but instead mass TP Gain or free TP cost. Combine it with Combos that create Auras or Debuffs on the enemy and it would be pretty fleshed out.

If you only need to do a Med2 + Med equiv and you're left with 250 TP, if you need more you can spend a CD to refresh your TP, or you if you dont you can let it regen naturally. Its the same as managing your CDs on any other healer, but in a different manner.
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>>146329486
I really doubt they'll add a true hybrid like that this late in the game.
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>>146329416
Well, I for a fact don't have a girlfriend irl. Never had anything physical. There are online ones, though. Might you be referring to an E-gf? Then I don't know, she's eating dinner right now, I'll show it to her when she gets back.
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Oy vey how about we do this
we add a support role

8man gets 2 support slots to get a nice 10man comp
4man gets 1 more slot for a nice 5man
24man can be 30man or some shit who cares
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>>146329432
What a cute meido
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Can someone namedrop
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>>146329548
Then what's your name? Post screenshot
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>>146329621
ye whats your name
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>>146328861
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>>146329716
Slutty Bucci
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>>146329589
Ive wanted them to move up to 5 mans like Rift for ages. I like how Rift had a dedicated support slot for things like BRD/MCH/RDM.
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I don't usually post on /xivg/ but I can't help myself for finally having a hyur edition.
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>>146329558
That's still too OP if we consider the other healers. If dancers were to only require TP all they have to do is to sit still in a corner for like 10 seconds, which isn't much considering the 2.5 gcd, to go back at full blast.
WHM can't do that, SCH can't do that and AST can't do that. If that ever happened their dps and healing would need to be sustained and not on burst which would make them a pretty weak healer mainly for savage where shit hits like a truck.
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>>146329589
Yoshi said he didn't want to add pure support roles so late because it would break the game, and that they have to redo past content design because support roles weren't kept in mind when they made it.
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>>146329589
>You now have to manage 9 other idiots to clear end game content

No thanks. Just trash the idea all together unless they make 5 man content the new savage, then you can have your 10 man casual shit thats not as braindead as the 24 man, and then your actually hard 5 man content.
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>>146329885
I've posted no less than two other OPs with hyur though.
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>>146329693
Nah. I don't really get why it matters, desu.
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>>146329256
>>146329486
>>146329562

why not just do what should have been done with WAR and make SAM and RDM do double duty as either Tank/Healer respectively, as well as DPS? Treat it like SMN/SCH where they share the same 1-50 "class skills" and have 10 probably 15 by 4.0 "job skills" that vary based on which role you currently have equipped (determined by twin job crystals).

But then turn around and treat both sides of the Tank/DPS & Heal/DPS coin as being "SAM" or "RDM" by name. Hell, maybe even have their initial AF gear work for both roles so you automatically have two different roles geared for the price of one?

RDM deserves this most, and the game could use another caster, but that's not to say they couldn't do the same to SAM and give everyone the best of both worlds. they'd basically be making "4" jobs for the effort of at most probably 3 independent job concepts.
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>>146329939
>teases about support roles in early 2.x but says they wont come until later because they'd be advanced jobs
>rebukes the idea when questioned and says they never planned for them in the first place
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>>146329939
with the money that gook is sucking out of us, bitch better be ready to make it work
>>146329875
yeah, I think it would make the game much more fun
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>>146330059
FUCK OFF RHIKI
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>>146330184
Dude, I just said I don't know who that is. Chill.
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You'll never see anything too different come out of new jobs due to how anal they are about balance in this game. They completely forsake any kind of customization or fun for the sake of making sure things are balanced to a tee. I personally hate it.
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>>146329830
i NEED to bully this moonie
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>>146330110
The developers lie about a LOT of things.
>>146330169
I'd rather have them use that money to make the game better and remove the strict role restrictions in content entirely
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>>146330246
FUCK OFF RHIKI
>>
Big, fat, throbbing male Au Ra dicks
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>>146329432
Hey, F'wha! Get any of your numbers over 75th percentile yet?
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>>146330276
if they care about balance, how come half of the jobs are so trash
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>>146329924
10 seconds would only be 180 TP, which is nowhere close to "full blast"

Also if youre trying to argue that SCH and AST actually have resource problems then lol
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>>146330389
What did anon mean by this?
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>>146330389
Every job is viable for every piece of content in the game. Some are better than others in aspects, but they're completely viable. You haven't played a MMO that's actually unbalanced if you think that.
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>>146330367
>>146330381
Bruh, calm down. You got the wrong Midlander.
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>>146330110
just because an idea sounds good it doesn't mean it's ok to implement it

also on the 10 man party, what stops anyone to just replace the 2 support roles with 2 dps? Currently a dps can do ~1500 dps, just imagine how OP their buffs would need to be to compete with ~3k dps.
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>>146330067
>And make SAM and RDM do double duty as either Tank/Healer respectively?

Because you run dangerously close into what make AST terrible in the beginning.

It's clear that if they were to ever make another job in the future that could "double up" on two big roles that it'll be subpar at both and they won't be taken in to any content because they'll be garbage until they fix it.

Technically speaking it SHOULD work, because it makes no difference whether or not you have a RDM healer/DPS, because it could only DO one role at a time.

Yet SE saw it as, "Well this class can do both, therefore it should be weaker," which makes no fucking sense, because it's not like AST could actually do both at the same time, which is what would've made it overpowered. It can only fulfill one role at a time.

But that still doesn't mean they wouldn't find another way to fuck it up. After the disaster that was AST in 3.0 - 3.2, I'd rather they not do that again.

Plus, the "job branching" idea gets dangerously close to that and you'd have the same problems with balancing that you have with SMN/SCH, where it becomes incredibly hard to fix because you have to worry too much about making one class too under/over powered.
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>>146330367
>>146330381
fwha is a cat
you guys are blinder than an asshole
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>>146330472
>>146330574
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/9557924/
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>>146330431
I just threw in some random number anon. To be honest i'm not even familiar with TP regen rates as i don't play melee other than PLD occasionally.
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#catboysruineverything
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>>146330067
Well, that was what I am thinking for RDM exactly.
Can't say they'd actually do it though, since SE said they didn't want to make something like ACN>SMN/SCH ever again.
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How about an extremely tanky healer who converts his own health into heals?
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>>146330358
It's gotten to the point where they lie so much that I'd respect them more if they just straight up said they lied instead of making excuses.

>>146330475
True, which is why they should just shut the fuck up unless they are 99% certain it will actually happen. It just comes off as a bluff so he could get people to stick around for the xpac.
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>>146330594
Ahhh, I see now. This character's on Excal, so, not them. Also just hit level 50 and completed the ARR story.
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I'm a lizard, I guess.
Like, whatever man, labels are for ____
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>>146330662
I miss 1.0 where they didn't exist.
Cat boys are fucking cancer and I wish they all died.
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>>146330728
Post classes as proof.
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That Hyur in the OP is very cute.
I would date that hyur.
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Jesus christ I'm getting tired of this antisocial game. Every FC i've been in is just full of cliques that don't want to do shit unless its with their clique. Been in this one FC for over a year now and want to leave but my gf doesn't want to leave it cause shes part of the clique and all so I'm about to say fuck her too. Tried socializing but I'm no twerking miqo'te so people won't have anything to do with me
and they keep pushing voice programs on everyone but it's just full of people fapping to eachother. Yes I'm mad. /rant
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In my honestly unpopular opinion, I think they should have just stuck with the seven jobs coming in from 1.x.

Sure that would make every party comp exactly the same with the exception of the fourth DPS slot, but balancing would be a hell of a lot easier, and each job could have a larger variety of skill sets.
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>>146330661
I mean you cant just throw around numbers when you're literally discussing how those numbers would affect something, gotta talk about specifics m8
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>>146330950
DRAKN?
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>>146330845
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>>146330950
>want to leave but my gf doesn't want to leave it cause shes part of the clique and all so I'm about to say fuck her too.
Fucking BASED
What server are you on?
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>grinding fates while waiting for a queue
>see Gorgimera pop, never killed him before
>ask if anyone wants to help
>get a level 48 DRG who aggros literally every mob and dies to Ram's Voice constantly
>respawned and en route more than half the fight
>finally get Gorg down to 16% nearly by myself
>magically leashes back to spawn while I'm standing in the same spot I've been pretty much the whole fight
FUCK
EVERYTHING
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>>146330950
Brahms...
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>>146330950
beta fag detected
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>>146330950
I get the feeling you're leaving things out that make you seem antisocial yourself considering how angry you are at people who play Miqote.

>>146331010
Nice meme but thats brand new.
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>>146331054
Gilgamesh
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>>146330950
join mine anon ;) no one uses the voice on discord anyway except when we do trials this weekend hopefully
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I made it to 47. Taking a break to look for a new car.

What's faster? Grinding dungeons as a SCH for EXP or just doing the FATEs in Northern Thanalan? And how many quests into HW material do I need to do in order to unlock MCH/DRK/ASTR?
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>moonie hour
im in
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wtb fantasia with gil on Gilgamesh
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>>146330950
Of course you're mad.
You're unsociable retard who's getting cucked by an FC clique. Your boyfriend is taking someone else's dongs.
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>>146330950
You should just find greener pastures, anon. You're just hanging out with the wrong people is all.
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>>146324021
>tfw no obedient Xaela petboy
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>>146331131
Your FC is a god damn bordello.
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>>146331015
no wonder people think you're rhiki you're practically identical. hahaha.
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>>146331101
I'm not angry at Miqotes. My gf is one and a lot of the FC are but they just stand around outside the FC house twerking with eachother.

I'm not leaving out anything either. I try to socialize and stuff but like I said, I'm in a HUGE (100 members fc) thats super cliquey with like 9 core members and officers. Won't say the name cause I know a few that browse here and I don't want shit started for my gf.
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>>146331107
Damn, sounds like you might be fucked. Since thats the "muh prog" server, i think circlejerks are probably the most abundant there. Of course they are everywhere, but I can't help you since i'm not on gilgamesh.
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>>146331131
>bunch of fat, smelly neckbeards too scared to ruin their illusion of being cute girls

not surprised at all
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>>146331225
20 mil.
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>Swiftsong can now be used in battle but the amount of extra movespeed given is decreased
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>>146331015
>>146331285
>F'wha made an identical alt on Excalibur due to all the bullying.
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>>146331285
Yeah, I'm seeing that now. I had no idea.
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>>146330682
>>146330565
given that they cried about how le hard it was to make the 3 jobs 2 they clearly didn't think through for heavensward i'd think they'd jump at the opportunity to create more for less work.

yeah i guess what it comes down to is i just wholly disagree with square enix's complaints about SMN/SCH. i consider those to be a success story, given that they were wildly different from each other simply by 5 skills at the outset.
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>>146331347
Nah fuck that. Just make it so that Swiftsong is a group buff and automatically toggles on/off depending on combat.
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>>146331318
this is actually probably very true
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>>146331169
N. Than is quicker, especially as a class with AoE capability like SMN.
And none, you can pick up DRK/AST/MCH the second you enter Ishgard.
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>>146331131
>FC that apparently has at least one member with a knife reading to strike from behind.
How about no?
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>>146331318
Bitch, I'll talk on voice, I don't give a shit.

>>146331424
Nah, it's me.
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>No more leve allowances to spam
>No beast tribes allowances

How do I level crafting again?
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>>146331009
It's kind of hard to talk about specifics when they don't exist. But like i pointed out, if it ever happens, it will be weaker than the other healers (even ast) to balance out the fast tp gain so it will be the AST 2.0 with dancers shitposting 24/7 and how their class has the best animations.

>>146330950
That's what you get for playing on balmung.
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>>146331616
ugly
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>>146331318
>tfw I don't use voip cause i hate my voice and i have a shitty accent
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>>146331625
Grind?
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>>146331564

That's reassuring. Then I'll hustle and try and grind when I return.

Just three more levels.

Just three more.

Oh goddammit, there's a maintenance tonight isn't there?
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>>146331285
Either this is fwha on his alt or monk players have no sense of fashion.
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>>146331714
Yeah 11pm PST
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Needs more hyurs.

>>146331651
Read: >>146331107

>>146331625
Collectibles?
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>>146331653
>tfw ywn sound as sexy as kiki
why even live
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>>146331285

rofl i'm fuckin dying

i refuse to believe this
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>>146331875
Believe what?
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Anyone have trouble with quests not appearing? I need Trauma Queen for my Anima weapon but the quest is no where to be found
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>>146331441
Agree. Other than SMN and SCH sharing the same attributes and they gave it a band-aid fix, I think at the time they thought it was a mistake was because SMN was such a weak job at level 50. They wanted to buff SMN but most of SMN's attacks were from ACN so meaning SCH can use it, and SCH would be too OP if it got buffed.
I don't know why they didn't bother just buffing the SMN skills or the pets instead. They probably did, but poorly? At least SMN is better now.
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baka poynussy
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>>146331947
that 2 people might be using the most common mnk/nin glamour and use the most common midlander face
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>>146331963
Are you sure you met all prerequisites?
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>>146331837
>read
Well, nvm that then. It's hard to not link balmung to degeneracy these days.
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yay or nay
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>>146331441
I can see three jobs being a pain, but if they release one I'm going to flip out. One job per expansion is really fucking weak.

I honestly think the only class they didn't really feel one hundred percent about was AST, seeing as it was a complete mess for a while, and part of the class still is.

DRK at least gets the excuse of being accepted into the meta seeing as it brings a very, very, very modest DPS increase over PLD (like 50 DPS max), but it plays completely differently, despite having a similar toolkit.

I feel like you can understand SE's design behind AST when you look at the fact that if they released it as a WHM replacement, WHMs would bitch. If they released it as a SCH replacement, SCHs would bitch.

Pitching it as "both" avoided the problem of making one healer gauranteed for the spot, but they fucked up HARD with its potencies and just made it trash tier for a while.

I also think the SMN/SCH thing was a mistake because it made SMN a piece of shit from 2.4 onwards due to fear out of making SCH overpowered. And the same problem is that SCH is still overpowered and now they're looking to nerf it because it's gotten too powerful.

The job branching idea was just as poor as the "double up" idea was.
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>>146325536
>>146326054
>not having the DRK grab the electro-worm while the PLD grabs the giganigga brobyniak
WAR could go either way, but I usually prefer to pick up the one whose attacks I can parry with raw intuition.
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>>146332229
it's yae
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>>146332229
bretty gud
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>>146332229
looks generic, but ok
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>>146332193
Not that I blame you. Gilgamesh is just as bad from a different angle.
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>>146332229
I want to nibble on those ears
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Do people still diadem?
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>>146332229
b my eb
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>>146332354
Only for gathering.
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>>146332121
Yeah, I even did the non hard version to see if that was the case but the npc doesn't even exist in vesper bay
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>>146331837
What's your fucking name?
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>>146332304
Yea I regret coming here years ago but I wanted something high pop and at the time people talk highly of how social Gilgamesh is but over time it's just been muh prog, muh raid, and boring as shit.
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>>146331847
There's no way that nigga doesn't have a stereotypical high-pitched nerd voice with a shitty euro accent
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>tfw la noscea 1.0 playing in your house.
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>>146332453
Kiki is a deep voiced mumbling Swede
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>>146331651
>AST shitposting 24/7 about how their class has the best animations

desu I've never seen this ever, but you really can't deny that AST probably has the coolest looking animations out of any class in the game. The minute they talked about cards and a space/time theme you knew it was going to be cool.

It's just ironic the best looking class of 3.0 ended up being the worst addition while the class with the most BORING ANIMATIONS EVER ended up being a great addition in 3.2. (MCH)
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>post yfw you didn't fall for the gilgamesh meme
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Someone tried to predict HW ending and failed, they got the winged estinien right though.

>>146332304
Leviathan so far seems free of all that.
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>>146332457
>La Noscea's 1.0 themes will never play in La Noscea itself ever again
I kinda miss the very green, vast meadows La Noscea had, with large caves and tunnels around..
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>>146332457
It's such a comfy theme, I love it.
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>>146332535
>mfw I didn't fall for the gilga, balmung, or excal meme
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>>146332517
MCH was a mistake.
You legit have to be lobotomized to enjoy a class that awfully designed.
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My name is mizzteq and I will be your dungeon guide

:3
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>>146332724
>butt hurt brd
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>>146332608
People have an obsession of characters dying now.
>inb4 the inner circle scions actually die this time in the future when they actually won't
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>>146332457
My fucking nigger.
>>146332623
I miss 1.0 La Noscea so much. All those alpha/beta memories.
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>>146332416
Trauma Queen is what grants access to WP NM though.
>>146332425
Doesn't matter since I am not the original anon, just saw what was safe to assume was the guy's answer.
>>146332445
I came with friends from another game and we prepared for the release. I feel at home still so it's aight.
>>146332608
The shit is entertaining to me, so I don't envy you.
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>>146332535
>yfw played myself into the chaos meme
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>>146332517
>desu I've never seen this ever
It's everywhere, it got to the point where people say "ast is shit but has pretty animations so it's ok". Hell, you just did it too in another words.
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My name is Rock Lizard and I'll be your posting guide.

:3
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>>146332801
>Trauma Queen is what grants access to WP NM though.
Thanks, I realized that and I feel like an idiot.
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>>146332781
WAR, actually.
Bards are better but only by the slightest of margins. With MCH it's like they went "okay, so we have this bard shit going on, so how about we take bard and make it as little fun as we can?"
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>>146332684
>mfw I fell for the excal meme and I'm loving it.
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>>146332457

I miss the 1.0 music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72Mqf2KBBEc
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>>146332971
>tfw orbitting cg
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>>146332971
It's a great server.
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>>146332724
But MCH is arguably the best designed job released in 3.0 because it's completely unique. The wildfire mechanic is unlike anything else in the game.

My few gripes with MCH are how fucking useless and cheap the turrets feel as an "aspect" of the class. They feel cheap and tacked on. That and their fucking animations are fucking snooze worthy.
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>>146332517
All of those 3 are such a mess in their own way.
AST it's their gameplay, but apparently their animations make up for it.
DRK is that they're DRKs in name only, but never play like a real DRK but they are decent in gameplay.
MCH was boring in terms of animations, was a shit job in early 3.x and Gauss Barrel but became pretty useful later on.
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>>146332904
/slap
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>>146332896
>It's everywhere
Maybe you just hangout with shitters

>Hell you just did it too

No, I didn't. And even if people are saying that, so what? It's not like they're going on and on about how amazing it is. I made a single post about it, cool your autism.

Besides, the "AST is shit" meme hasn't been relevant since 3.2, and with Yoshi P looking to keep buffing it as he stated in a recent interview I'm having a hard time finding out why people will keep pushing it
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>>146332495
>>146331847
>tfw no long comfy skype calls with a deep-voiced euro boy
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>>146326542
ya what's up who dis
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>>146332798
I wish they just improved on the 1.0 zones and make them not-boring and not so copy-paste instead of remaking them to more smaller zones and not replacing the superior music. ;_;
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>>146332912
Still better than me throwing out my glamour top for SMN
it happens, anon.
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>>146333087
What is play like a real DRK to you
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>>146333061
unique=/=enjoyable to play
having to hope for procs like a crack addict hopes for a fix is not remotely fun
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>>146333026
I still like this one a lot. Reminds me of the retainer market.
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>want to farm eight boarskin
>on previous days in east shroud there was nobody farming
>today the ONE time I need farm some there's a bunch of faggots farming
>one BRD with his Chocobo them running around like a retard
Seriously, what's up with that? Any time I need to farm there's some chucklefucks farming already and when I don't there's nobody...
Also:
>a group of another BRD, a NIN and one chocobo is there too killing everything
>they wear low level gear
>obviously they spiritbond for materia
>it's level 1 gear
>on level 20 enemies
People are dumb as shit.
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It's weird how 90% of these "muh 1.0 ;____;" faggots never played 1.0
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>>146333473
i played 1.0 it was horrible you couldnt even fucking jump
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>>146333026
>This will NEVER play on Thanalan ever again
Oh, man. I miss the old city-state, unique battle themes and guildleve themes, too.
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>>146333258
Dude, you're the one sperging over it. People do say ast have pretty animations regardless it being bad everywhere where ffxiv players hang, be it here, reddit, OF and even ingame.
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>>146333473
>liking the music means you liked everything else
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>>146333473

I did though.
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>>146333337
Not them but I'd imagine giving it more lifetaps and abilities that sacrifice HP for more damage. Obviously this is bad game design for a tank, but they're the ones who decided for it to be a tank in the first place.
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>>146333337
In most FF games, they're usually heavy damage dealers that sacrifice HP for heavy damage.
>>146333473
But I did. It's a horrible game but there were some nice things about it. Most notable is the graphics and music though.
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>>146333514
>Anything you could say good about 1.0 can be countered with this
1.0 was garbage Jesus christ
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>>146333574
You're the one who just made like three posts about it, so now, you're the one freaking out over it. I've literally never noticed and I frequent reddit and the OF.

AST has pretty animations and now it's a decent class that can be taken for raids. Before it was a shitty class with pretty animations, who cares

People are always going to comment about what they like about their classes, hell, we never hear the end of the WAR and SCH circlejerks, and I say that as someone who mains SCH for my static and fucking hates listening to it
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AST is viable and only shitters don't play it in progression.
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>>146333675
>video game music
how much of a pathetic virgin can you be
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>>146333473
ya I did
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>>146332229
>dashing aryan elezen waifu
Definite yay, anon.

>>146332724
It's supposedly a stronger job than BRD in terms of DPS and relevant utility for progression (mitigation, buffs, and interrupts vs. limited buffs and interrupt, and cleanse). After some parsing, a BRD can pull ahead of a MCH on a level playing field with buffs that benefit them both (Disembowel, Battle Litany, Trick Attack, Hypercharge, AoE Balance). MCH has its advantages over BRD, but I'd take a harpbow over a gun and turret anyday.
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>>146333767
whew i was afraid you were one of those ff11 memers who wanted them to be casting magic

as far as 'things that can be tanks' go, though, DRK was kinda up there just as much as something like WAR was. SAM is also guilty of this, the only reason people think it should be a tank is because of ff11
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>>146333878
>Can't mention AST without someone starting a flame war over it

oh god please no
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>>146333967
Thanks for CD key
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>>146333834
AST players are the ones that say their animations are pretty and thats why they keep with it regardless it being weaker than the other 2, jesus christ anon, whats with all this anger? You're writing walls of text over a comparison of with and dancer being awful.
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what would you do if you had a hole in your belly
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>>146333703
Whatever. It's almost universally accepted that 1.0 was garbage.

The only good things about it were the cutscenes and music.
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>>146333275
I still don't understand why they had to replace the 1.0 field music. It's still fitting, I feel.
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>>146334156
>A couple of sentences is a wall of text
lol

>Shitpost and mildly talk shit about class and meekly incite a flame war
>Fuck don't do that anon who cares
>WOAH MAN WHAT'S WITH THE RAGE

Anon,pls, you're literally shitposting about other people shitposting and then wondering why people are annoyed with you for shitposting.
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>>146334253
Holy shit shut the fuck up about your shitty 1.0 music.
It was SHIT
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>>146333913
you tell em bro!

*flips all these geeks, dweebs and dorks the bird with both hands while hangbanging to zeppelin*
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>tfw tanks
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You'll never know what my hell needs...
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>>146334157

Not fuck with it because I assume if I have a hole in my belly and i'm still alive its because I suffer from some kind of illness and have a colostomy bag
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>>146334170

I said I liked and missed the music, please calm down.
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>>146334335
Kill yourself, faggot. You ARRtoddlers are unbearable.
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It's never just like how it seems...
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>>146334445
>Whines 24/7 about his shitty 1.0 music on 4chan
Go bitch at yoshi you stupid fuck.
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how do i deal with the horror that is leveling roulette?
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>>146334335
>shit
https://youtu.be/1CLY_iatoE8
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>>146334573
>le one guy
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>tfw you sneaked in two more people that you knew had Nidhogg mechanics down to clear in a farm party
I don't know why I like doing this shit. I hate it when people sneak in themselves.
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>>146334046
I suppose it was to be expected that DRK would be a tank just because of its name alone. Although their gimmick didn't fit it, the madmen did it anyway. WAR is kind of just a generic RPG job so I'm very much okay with it being a tank.

SAM has a strong possibility of becoming a tank, yes. But I hope it isn't.
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You'll never know what makes me freeze...
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>Saw a centipede by my bed last night.
I haven't slept in over 34 hours.
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>>146334579
Drugs?
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>>146334627
the town themes were/are/always will be shit they're made to loop a billion times so it doesn't matter how good they were or are, they get old fast.
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>>146334696
>I hate it when people sneak in themselves.
Because 9 times out of 10 those same people don't even know half the fight. I could care less if people haven't cleared as long as they convince me they actually know it.
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>>146334312
>so it will be the AST 2.0 with dancers shitposting 24/7 and how their class has the best animations.
>this is inciting a flame war

nigga, only you got burnt by it.
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>>146334627
Yeah it's shit
>>146334638
>supposedly a ton of people want 1.0 music in game
>they don't post on the official forums asking for it
>instead they come and whine on a thai onahole review site
no wonder you faggots can only jack off to pixelated asses and bitch about music
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>>146334756
there other already made their way into your ear canals several nights before

it's too late
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What fucking forces me to breathe...?
;_;
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>>146334627

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oquox8Wnag4

I liked the uldah theme more too. The current night one is pretty great though.
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>>146334696
I accidentally snuck into a farm or sale party before for Thordan's Reign. I was found out, but I got two clears out of it so it helped me out in the long run.
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>>146334842
Seeing as whenever someone mentions AST and shitposts about it like that the entire general devolves into a AST viable vs. not viable flame war, yes, I'd rather avoid that autism, mang
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>>146334807
Nah, 1.0 uldah theme actually fits the cadence of a desert city. Now we just have something that sounds like it's from Star Wars.
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POST 1.0 MUSIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-94brHheDe4
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>>146334802
brb smoke
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>Quest has me slap a moogle
>"H-how can he slap?!"

Moogle Beast tribes have been very cathartic.
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WoW has better music desu lads
XIV's music all sounds samey regardless if it's ARR or 1.0 stuff and it's constantly on loop so it drills into your brain and becomes annoying REAL fast.
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>>146335039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOhP7yiM8V0
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>>146334731
the 'tanks situation' is sort of the same as the healer one.

there are at best two jobs in the series that represent what a 'tank' is, just like if you were asked what jobs in the series are a healer, you could at best name White Mage, Red Mage, and Sage.

Finding other jobs that can fit those molds takes some doing, and they're not just all going to be an obvious 1:1 fit like WHM and PLD are.
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>>146334731
>I hope it isn't

They literally said they were debating adding SAM or DRK in as the tank job for 3.0 and only added in DRK first because they were afraid of releasing too many eastern-themed jobs at once.

I don't know why everyone is so against the idea of SAM being a tank, they've pretty much confirmed it.
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>>146334345
>HEALER OPTIONAL TANKING
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>146335162
Because Yoshi himself said he doesnt want it to be tank. I mean that isnt to say he might cave to other staff, but thats a big contributing factor.
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>>146334993
If i wanted to make a flame war i would more direct to it, trust me i don't beat around the bush for shit like that.

>>146335137
It's orchestral music overall, not many youngsters have the patience to enjoy it.
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>>146335162
Oh god it's this retard again
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>>146335162
Yes, but that doesn't mean both DRK and SAM were intended to be tanks when they are both eventually released.

The only reinforcement that SAM will be a tank is if RDM is a DPS. Otherwise SAM could be a DPS while RDM becomes a healer(which would probably be very bad considering current healer balance)
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>>146335108
more like how can he /pet am I right ha ha ha
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>>146334807
Yeah but the 1.0 Ul'dah theme was much more soothing to listen to than what we currently have. The current theme, while nice, sounds too "grand" if that makes any sense.

>>146334941
Yes this is the good shit right here. You get a different vibe of the game with music like this.
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Make way, superior soundtrack coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nwj29zCxzI
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>>146335154
Pretty much, yeah. I'm beginning to think there's no need for more tanks and healers now though. Maybe 4 jobs would be a good end point, however.
It's gonna be Samurai for sure, and maybe a healer version of Red Mage for the other or Dancer because muh FFXI did it! Another is Chemist or whatever.
>>146335162
I'm mostly against it because--are we seriously going to have another sword-wielding tank AGAIN?
Other than that, I don't really care.
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>>146335347
But how do you handle THIS scenario?
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i know both are probably awful, but opinions on these? right one is what i had before, left is what im currently trying out.

open to suggestion on glamour, hairstyle, garbage/10, kys, etc etc
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>>146335473
WoW had a grand OST but didn't fit that cartoony art direction.
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>>146335249
He said that he doesn't see the idea/concept of SAM feeting the theme with of a tank, but at that point it's completely irrelevant because look what they did to DRK to make it a tank.

He also said that at that point a SAM tank would pretty much be a Shogun but it's not out of the ordinary for them to change the names of jobs like that. Look at our traditional Time Mage. It's an Astrologian and only vaguely similar.

>>146335314
>No actual argument
Seems like you're the retard anon, please neck yourself at your earliest convenience

>>146335339
It does, yes, because if they didn't add in DRK, SAM would have been in its place as the tank role. It's not like they would've scrapped the idea of MCH altogether for the DPS slot, that was basically confirmed

RDM is going to be a DPS or a healer, it doesn't fit as a tank and there are no "tanky" aspects of it, at all. SAM is at least coated in armor.

It could go either way at this point, but they're not going to release two DPS classes at once and I doubt RDM is going to be a healer because of the awful current healer balance.
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>>146335686
I don't like glasses but your outfit on the left is amazing.
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i dont see how this helps you aim better
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>>146335686
Can you give a shot of left with the hairstyle on right?
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>tfw no tall elezen mommy
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>>146335473
outta the way kid, make room for the all star soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ZrN-m7VJA
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>>146335686
right is better
black hair is infinitely better
you really mega hyper suit the minfilia hair too
if anything, keep the black cause it's really good on you
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>>146335765

should i change it for something else, or leave off?

>>146335786

yeah just gimme a minute to get out of this ex fight!
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>>146335686
right is much cuter, kind of a diet bayonetta going on i like it
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>>146335592
if i didn't think it would fucking annihilate our queue times, i'd be inclined to say SAM should be a melee DPS and RDM should be a magic DPS.

i still think it would be for the best regardless.
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>>146335756
>It does, yes, because if they didn't add in DRK, SAM would have been in its place as the tank role.
You do realize that both could potentially be a DPS or a tank right? Dark arts could have easily been called Bushido. Just because SAM was also planned, doesn't mean it's STILL planned to be a tank. Ideas and concepts get scrapped and changed all the time. They only mentioned SAM so people wouldn't lose hope for a job they like.
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>>146335920
Oh no the glasses fit it, I was just saying as a personal preference. Looks good.
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>>146335654
Magnets?
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Rate the cross class crafting skills in order of importance of equipping or acquiring them.
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>>146335845
nah man, diablo 2 had a nice soundtrack but it just isn't anywhere near the polish, effort and variety that world of warcraft sountracks deliver.
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>>146335964
Did you just copy paste that? I swear i've seen that reply before.
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>>146335920
Yeah I wanna say outfit on left with the hair from the right but I want to see a picture of it first.
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>>146336017
I do not even understand so I guess this is your victory.
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>>146335832
PST Garbagesuki Trashmoire

>>146335686
Keep the legs of either no matter what love em, I think black colored hair suits you better but it might look really nice with that ponytail.
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>>146336054
>multiple people can't possibly have similar opinions

Not everything you dislike is "copypasta", anon.
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>>146336114
The magnets keep you from using the kettles in self defense. They would also keep you rooted to the ground.

You'd be helpless. HELPLESS.
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SAM with be a tank where their DPS stance switches to a dual wield stance with their katanah and an offhand based on parry and dodges that the player can time like Shelltron. Will have higher movement than the others either in the form of movespeed or dashes in combat. RDM will be a mixed melee/magic DPS that gets instant cast proc magic from ranged or as an off GCD in their rotation, and supportive melee debuff slashes.
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>>146335654
love this retard catboy
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What should I be pulling as a tank in sohr khai? I mean after the first gate with the fans. How far is it generally safe to pull?
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>>146335964
>they only mentioned SAM so people wouldn't lose hope
This would be true if they mentioned it once and never again, but they've literally been hinting at SAM every single fucking time there's a live event.
>Before we begin, is anyone dressed up as a Samurai?
>Yoshi P covers his ears and looks away
>One of the events had a folder named "SAMURAI" on it for people to see
>Teased at other points

It's coming.

Also
>Both be DPS

After the disaster that was the release of Ninja and ALL DPS suffering through 3+ hour queues times? Lel, no, not happening.
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Calofisteri is 2lewd4me.
>those feet
>those thighs
>that ass
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SAM will be dps.
Deal with it.
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>>146336225
>SAM
>Dual Wield

Opinion discarded. If you had suggested this for a Neo Sword Oath on 70 PLD i'd maybe be behind this, but not Samurai.
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>>146336225
> SAM will be garbage and inferior to WAR
> RDM will be a melee DPS with RNG caster procs

Hoping Square Enix has a third class lined up for the expansion because these two are pretty fucking awful sounding.
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>>146335910
>>146335927
>>146336165

alright il try the black hair with left outfit, see how that works with/without glasses, and decide if i wanna stick with it or go back to bayofillia
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>>146336225
no sam is going to be a job based off of archer that doesn't have any of the faggy support abilities of bard :^)
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>>146336298
Nobody actually believes both RDM and SAM will be DPS, but yes one of them will be.
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>>146336171
People are really looking way too deep into my comments today.

>146098669
>Dark Arts could have easily been called Bushido, or some shit like that.

You're not the 1st one to say dark arts could have been called bushido.
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>>146336249
depends on your healer/dps, if both are good you can easily pull all
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So, possible jobs people mentioned so far:
>Samurai
>Red Mage
>Blue Mage
>Dancer
>Mystic Knight
>Geomancer
>Chemist/Salvemaker

What about their origin and lore? Brief gameplay gimmick?
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>>146336501
It's probably the same anon who posted the same comment in the last discussion, but he's not totally wrong
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>>146336607
Someone once mentioned a ninjutsu type mechanic for chemist for Mix and I thought that would be pretty neat.
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>>146336485
Why not just make Ranger? Bard in XIV is Bard and Ranger combined though.
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>>146336607
fuck off yoshi, figure your own lore you lazy hack
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did yoshi say ps3 support only for the rest of 3.xx series?
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>>146336249
i usually grab everything up to the melia pull and kill that, i'm not too keen on DF healers and having both of the fan fuckers down in the same place is a clusterfuck waiting to happen.
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>>146336762
Said up to 4.0, wasn't it?
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>>146336485
>A real Samurai in a gook designed weeb infested MMO

Yeah, no. Yoshi is going to give it fucking ruroni kenshin/samurai X flip attacks and gimmicky animations like pic related
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>>146336249
pull 2 cubes > you can pull everything up to the tree > pull fan and cubes > mog boss > pull birds to eggs > pull giant bird to small birds > pull giant bird and everything upstairs > 2nd boss > gates everywhere so it doesn't matter.
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>>146336762
They mentioned gauging how the playerbase reacted/how the dynamics shifted in terms of platform, but yeah, they mentioned dropping it after Heavensward.

Seeing as they just now confirmed 4.0 will bring lots more inventory space, yeah, it looks like it's happening.
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>>146336850
Yeah he confirmed it for Heavensward but no word of support beyond it. Sounds like it's going out if they're saying they're adding inventory and shit though, I think.
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>>146336607
Dont people realize that a class based on an existing crafting class is never going to be added to an MMO?
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>>146336431
There's most likely not going to be a third job in the upcoming expansion. It was previously mentioned that designing DRK, AST, and MCH for Heavensward already put a lot of strain on the dev team. The most we should expect is two jobs, and hope that they are designed well enough to be enjoyable and viable for all content.
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>>146336723
that was a joke. i'd rather like to see SAM switch between great kat and bow though, either as tank/DPS stance or as two different forms of DPS or what have you.

something to make it unique from the other jobs, anyways
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>>146335238
>he doesn't like running triple tank trains on old content for shenanigans
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>>146336607
IN LIKELIHOOD OF ACTUALLY HAPPENING

Samurai > Red Mage > Dancer > Blue Mage > Mystic Knight > Chemist/Salvemaker > Geomancer

I'd still like to see Green Mage
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>>146335082
>smoking
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>>146336980
Rift has an alchemist crafting profession and class.
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>>146337009
Paying $15/month and $50 an expansion for a minimal content game that now only gets two dungeons per patch is putting a strain on my wallet. They better get with it
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>>146337012
I don't think they'll ever make jobs change weapons because that's basically the thing about XIV. The weapon is what determines what class you are so one weapon is only tied to one class.
Would be cool though.
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>>146337083
>blue mage not the least likely

Cmon man, how would it even work when you gain all your abilities and shit by leveling up and doing your class/job quests?
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>>146337083
The fucks a green mage
Does it specialize in fog, smoke, and illusion magics?
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post a pic of you hugging someone and a song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZsDIAg8zI4
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Can you people shut the fuck up about Astrologian already?
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>>146337083
Pretty sure Green Mage is just ACN/SMN/SCH at this point.
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>>146336870
I hope this happens during the SAM class questline.
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>>146337263
"Green Mage (緑魔道士, Midori Madōshi?) is a job in Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift, exclusive to the viera race. It protects all allies via Green Magick whose spell set consists of bestowing status enhancements on allies and status ailments on foes. Green Mages wield hammers and maces, and are one of the most physically powerful mage classes, second only to the Blue Mage."
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>>146337262
>NPC sends you out to slay X monster ravaging the region
>They teach you how to absorb their spirit or some shit and learn their ability
>???
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>>146337263
A buff/debuff class, like EQ's Shaman. So basically no place in this game unless it gets thrown into one of the 3 mandatory archetypes and becomes a shitty hybrid like AST.
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>>146336980
Eh, I wouldn't say impossible.
>Implying Thavnairians didn't find a way of making Alchemy being more useful in battle like what Sharlayans did with Astrology
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>>146337426
Green Magic is 10/10 in FFXII too, but its definitely not class material.
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>>146336448

better?

also any good necklaces i could use?
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>>146337427
So basically the same as gaining all your class/job skills normally, but you just go on fetch quests for literally every one. Cool class design, my man.
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>>146334802
>Drugs
>Videogames

Please spend money on only one of these vices
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>>146337569
Not sure on a necklace but I love the hair + outfit combination.
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Can anyone on Balmung HQ this given the mats?
http://xivdb.com/?search=wrapped+adamantite+culinary+knife&filters=cGFnZT0x
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Did Ada ever upload the nude mod files like she said she might?
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>>146337696

necklace needs to be glamoured still, when in doubt peach blossom
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>>146337360
We need to add [AST trigger warning] to the OP since asts are such tumblerinas that can't take facts.
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>>146337571
Why cant you suspend your disbelief? You dont go learn all of your skills for each class, yet you didn't bitch about them. Why cant you just assume your character went out and learned some beast magic, but he had to be guided towards the bigger/more dangerous ones?
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>>146337774
Not him but I'm also tied of talking about it, since you can't have any healer-based discussion without it turning into a SCH vs. AST flamewar while WHMs watch both and /laugh

It's tiring, who the fuck wants every general to devolve to such mundane bullshit
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>>146336607
>Mystic knight
>Blue Mage

OH GOD PLEASE
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>>146337735
Don't think so.
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>>146337893
We made it through tank shitposting, we'll make it through healer shitposting.
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>>146337625
I spend money on video games and vape naysh membership fees.
>>
Is there any point to sinking money into the Master CUL III and IV books?
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>>146337791
>>146337571
It's completely and totally realistic to believe that if Blue Mage is ever added to the game, it'll be exactly as
>>146337427
described. Yeah, it'll be a butchered class design, but SE doesn't care. Look at DRK, SMN, and AST.
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>>146337696
yea did you add the beautymark??
A+ would reach nonstop infinite climax with
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Nightmare Mode: Create a class that doesn't exist in a previous FF but would be lore approved.
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>>146338032
VAPE NAYSH YA'LL
>>
I would like a bullet mage.
Kind of like MCH except not gay and without the pointless turret
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>>146338126
A proper implementation of Thaumaturge a la 1.0.
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>>146337913
> Jobs that would be watered down to the point they wouldn't be true to what they should be if implemented.

FFXIV doesn't even use elemental tables for most damage; Fire does more to Ifrit than Blizzard, for example. Mystic Knight could not work seeing its whole shtick is changing the element of their sword.

Blue Mage.. ha good luck. This game's too casualized for us to have to learn spells from monsters or to do math to know if the spell would work (IE: Level 3 Flare).
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>>146337724
Yeah sure, just send a tell to Sage Thought
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>>146337735
Check back/remind me on friday

also

super huge solo album of my elezen coming soon(tm)
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>>146338087
>Yeah, it'll be a butchered class design, but SE doesn't care. Look at DRK, PLD, SMN, BLM, WHM, SCH, DRG, BRD, MNK, NIN and AST.
fixed

No, WAR can't be butchered because it can universally be anything given it's FF history.
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>>146338126
I was going to say Acrobat but I guess that's similar to Dancer.

Maybe Clown? I mean, we do have Mime after all.
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Arithmetician when yoshi?
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>>146337893
Let's not turn the threads into "let's not talk of the job that must not be named" either.
Game discussion will always bring the weakpoints of each class.

>>146338126
Whore. Infect your enemies with aids, after a few years the enemy will instantly die.
Instance timer increased.
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>>146338197
V /\
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>>146336607
chemist/salvemaker would actually make sense as the next healer

i doubt it though. knowing yoshi we will get WHM reskin or some shit
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>>146338126
Spell Fencer because it's technically not from an FF game :^)
Probably from Ala Mhigo because so far Ilberd and Raubahn did some crazy sword magic, or Thavnair to fit that Middle-east/Indian/belly dancer look.
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>>146338285
So a Magun/Demon Gun user like Kaze from Final Fantasy: Unlimited?
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Can I be an avatarfag too?
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Can anyone tell me how to unlock Unukalhai? I've followed the entire msq, just got caught up, and now need to find him to start unlocking the ex fights. He is only listed as being in the rising stones solar, but he isn't there for me.
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>>146338330
You've bamboozled me, that wasn't very nice of you.
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>>146338446
I'm not saying it needs to be that, but it's not
>Game discussions will always bring that weakpoints of each class.

That's not the problem. The problem is hardcore memeing and just general shitposting. Any time you mention AST you get meme'd on even if you don't play it. There's no "discussion" other than "AST is shit, end of story" whereas the counter is "lel playing >SCH cucks enjoy getting nerfed in 3.4"

It's not "discussion" if each side is just going to meme and shitpost. Hell, people were barely even mentioning it and already the shitposting started coming out
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>>146338126
Crystal Knight that can manipulate the aether around them. Healer that can mend people by restoring or molding their aether or some shit. They can alos create barriers that are stronger than SCH but on cooldowns. All of their healing skills are channeled into people and can be cancelled when needed, but have a slightly lower HPS compared to the others. Also instead of doing DPS like other healers, when nobody needs healing they can channel their aether into other players to increase their damage while tethered. They have a big cooldown that lets them use these tethered skills like moving.
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>>146338087
AST in FFT was inferior to XIV's though.
>>146338361
>MNK, NIN, PLD, DRG, SCH, BLM
>Butchered
DRK, SMN and BRD were the only butchered jobs there, but SMN and BRD were actually an improvement compared to their XI counterparts.
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>>146337253
it could very well just be a combination weapon, i.e. the great katana comes with a bow tacked on
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>>146338779
so the monk from wow then
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>>146338651
No.
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>>146338101

beauty mark has always, and will always be there
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>>146338836
That's also because "AST" in FFT was basically just a Squire with Celestial Stasis added in, which was actually enough to make it decent
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>>146338896
Yeah I like that gimmick, but I also like the twist on dealing damage at least in groups. The damage tether can link to enemies or allies based on what you target.
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>>146338706
Have you cleared all of the Alexander: Gordias quests? I think he shows up after doing that.
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we need at least 2 more tank jobs and 1 more healer

no more DPS is necessary
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>tfw 200/240
How close are you guys to finishing your relic?
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>>146338897
stop crushing my friend's dreams and hold my hand.
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>>146338320
are you retarded? Mystic Knight could just be shifting between elemental stances to perform different attacks like MNK / BLM do or have Dark Arts-like pre buffs that apply different effects to compatible skills.
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>>146338752
>There's no "discussion" other than "AST is shit, end of story" whereas the counter is "lel playing >SCH cucks enjoy getting nerfed in 3.4"

That only started happening after a few days of people constantly discussing AST, to the point shitting on AST became a meme. When people were actually discussing the topic and not doing it for trolling the threads were ok.
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>>146338872
Oh shieet now we're talking.
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>>146339016
>>146338706
This is fucking retarded, but the quest to unlock him is outside fortemps manner, I think they thought everyone would just pick up the random fed ex tier quest after killing thordan, which triggers it.

Its god of something, can't remember. Just go back to fortemps.
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there is nothing wrong with AST

balance cards are OP
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>>146339078
No... and no.
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>>146339132
the bow could also just be a plot device part of your job quests that gets upgraded as you do them.

though now that i'm thinking about it, a great katana that transforms into a bow would be radical.
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>>146339050
93/240, so I still have a ways to go. Almost halfway there, at least. I'm pumping the points into critical hit rate first, and then skill speed because I'm working on the bard relic.
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>>146339253
will you be my gf instead
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>>146339306
good on you man, do your roulettes and maybe 5-6 arf runs a day and you'll get there in no time.
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Crit or SpS for WHM?
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>>146339126
No, even in the beginning of the discussion there was still too much memeing and shitposting for it to actually be worthwhile, I was there when it was happening

The only time you can reasonably discuss AST is actually on reddit because the OF are a hugbox where AST literally has no faults and /vg/ where AST is and will always be trash-tier. That's the only place I see where people have reasonable discussions about it.
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>>146339540
Crit
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>tfw creepyscale was just in your expert roulette
I think?
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>>146339540
>crit

obv sps
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>>146339540
Both are not great options as secondaries for the job so pick whichever one you like
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>>146339540
Crit, past 600 ss the returns aren't that great even if in theory, 800+ SS makes aero hit "harder" than stone III.
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>>146339253
do it
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>checking party members' search info
>You'll never know how my hell burns. :3
why...
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>>146339673
/wink
/hug
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>>146339401
>>146339738
I can do nothing but offer you a delicious chicken meal at your nearest KFC for $5.
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are there more c@s than lizards
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>>146339050
87/240

Just found out about the Amber-Encased Vilekin earlier today so got 30 today while I nuked my leves.

On a somewhat related note: Is there a level 60 rotation for BTN for gathering Unspoiled Nodes like Morel that has significant RNG in it? (As in bad RNG means my collectibility is so low I can't turn it in for scrips) I tried some stuff but I guess I'm a stupid lizard who can't figure this out despite my search.
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>special snowflake characters

Stop
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So...I recently moved to balmung for lewd times. How do you go about getting some?
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>>>>146339505

>5 or 6 arfs

elliot stop trying to spread your madness
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Is proci's static dead yet? My WAR quit the game and I hear stratos is good.
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>>146338285
Before Machinist I was expecting SE would surprise us with a Red Mage with guns instead of swords.

Because I am a fan of Final Fantasy Unlimited
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>>146339965
Quicksands seems to be the hot spot for all that.
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>>146339951
>that has significant
that has no significant*
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>>146340005
i really would have fucking loved this as long as they shot elemental shit and not regular bullets and generic 'blast' damage
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>>146339873
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>>146339997
Stratos isn't good.
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>>146339731
>linear decrease of cast time
>not that great at higher amounts
???
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>>146339598
On the beginning people pretty much had the overall opinion that AST was fine just not fine enough to break the WHM+SCH even though it can replace WHM in most situations. People only started trolling once the AST defense force popped up, started going full retard with their defenses and since the discussion made the ebins just up people dragged the topic for like 3 days.

>>146340137
>on a game full of timed attacks
You're a healer, you're supposed to precast, not play wack a mole with hp bars.
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>>146340101
:3
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>>146340113
Shut the fuck up
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What's the fastest way to grind Eso?
I'm up to my ears in sands, but can't grind Umbrites fast enough.
>>146339951
For blue scrips in particular, DE x MA x3 is more than enough to hit the recommended collectability and lets you gather 2-3 every time. There are rotations where you can get even more by gambling on Impulsive Appraisal but that's a bit of a crapshoot.
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>>146340316
Research Facility farming.
3 runs per hour at best.
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>>146340232
because casting faster wouldn't allow more procs or even allow higher dps

here is your (You) please avoid replying to me with "but crit is better in that case"
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>>146340393
>Research Facility farming.
Be right back, just gonna go kill myself.
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>>146340316
>What's the fastest way to grind Eso?
Aetherochemical Research Facility gives 150 eso, so that's what most people seem to be running.
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good night xiv...
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>>146340232
Even before people came to that conclusion, there was still "Muh viability" being spewed left and right. It happened.

Even then, each place has come to its own conclusion. The conclusion on reddit is different than it is here. Granted, people take WHM way more than AST for say, A8S, but we don't know the exact reasons for it.

Even so the main point is that you can't discuss AST or healers in general in here because people freak out and go
>muh ast boogeyman

over and over. It's tiring.
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>>146340496
cyu
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>>146340450
No not really, i'll just say it doesn't matter because healer substats other than crit on SCH don't matter. Do what you wish.

>>146340501
Even though i typo'd, like i said people just use it to shut up the ebins. I guess don't mind the trolls.
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Hey
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>>146340496
Don't come back
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>>146340040
Cheers matey
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>>146340316
Huh, I try that but only get 400-407 collectibility on them. I've been gambling with IA and I hate it.

Guess my stats are just too low. 688 Gathering and 637 Perception. I really should've mentioned it earlier.
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>>146340496
nighty night
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>>146339981
my dude 3 athereochem runs will take about an hour but will net you 450 esos.
it's awful but a good way to do it.
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>>146340283
No
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>>146340757
Regardless of past discussion I guess, I'm more interested in looking at the future patches/buffs the devs have planned.
They said they want to make AST/WHM more viable and they seem to be hinting somewhat at rebalancing SCH somehow.
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Lonely miqo'te looking for

Oh what's the point
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>>146340496
> C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Temp_Saved Images

avatarfagging with stolen avatars. ayyy
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>>146340856
You have more than me and i can gather those np. Just google the gather collectible rotation and check google images, theres a few charts for it.
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>>146340917

but i dont want to bore myself to death
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>>146341014
Elk has always posted with that file name, newfag
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i love elk
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>>146340484
That's why you get a premade group to powerfarm that it, preferably with at least one caster to burn everything. DF, as always, is a complete crap shoot. Antitower's also an option as it's generally quicker, but fewer esoterics per run.
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Did the Moonfire Halter save this game?
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>>146341242
no, but it sure is adorable isn't it

WHY THE FUCK IS IT RAINING EVERYWHERE
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>>146341126
newfag that's a temp folder for saved images. not where screenshots for FFXIV are normally stored.

if it is elk then he's a newfag too for having to find screenshots from his temporary internet files.
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shirou...
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>>146341242
>clothing for sluts and erpers
>saving anything
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>>146341126
its from his phone ya dingleberry
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>>146341032
Yeah gonna do that for a bit. It shouldnt be an issue for me.
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Around how much Control do I need to make HQ Ironworks?
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>>146341421
I want to fondle these cute lizard boobies!

>>146341242
Yes!

>>146341492
Screw you!
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>>146341492
sluts and erpers are half the game's population anon

i bet you don't even have a horde weapon yet
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>>146340856
Upgrading your gear is probably a good idea. I get 172 collectability per DE'd Methodical Appraisal with lightly melded i150 whites and the i180 MH/i170 OH both melded with GP. If BTN is your only 60 definitely try to upgrade your offhand ASAP. Perception increases how much collectability each skill gives. with unbuffed Methodical capping at 115 and buffed capping at 172.
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>get someone from this thread in my df group
>they do shit DPS
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>>146341242
There are better summer outfits out there anon
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>>146341562
You can make it with the bare minimum of 850 control. As long as most of your materials are HQ, it's pretty much a cakewalk.
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>>146341603
I don't because I don't play the game, I just craft and shitpost on thread.
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>>146341618
Alright thanks. I'll definitely look into getting my OH upgraded since it's really fucking garbage right now.
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>>146341603
that's a cute paladin glamour
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>>146341603
I don't got a Horde weapon. I really don't need or want one either. It's not like I've a need for it since I'm in no static running Midas Savage.

And even if I was in one I'd be shit anyway for needing an i235 weapon for content that people have cleared with i220's
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>>146341763
Depending on your server's marketboard, getting the materials to craft the i170 offhand should be fairly cheap and will likely be cheaper than just buying it straight up. I think it's like 2 Adamantite Ingots and 1 Astral lumber along with some easier mats.

Honestly, you might be able to reach the necessary stats with just the i150 Adamantite mainhand and i140 offhand as long as they're HQ.
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>>146341979
>I'd be shit
You already ARE shit.
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thats a tough cat
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>>146341985
Alright, cool. Managed to go from 637 Perception to 666 so demonic shenanigans aside I should have a better time.
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>>146342159
For what? Not being serious in a casual game? You're shit and bad for taking it seriously and thinking anything "achievable" in this game matters.

Git gud and play a competitive PVP based game vs real thinking opponents, not vs some lolscriptedfite.
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>>146342436

Not him but I play Overwatch competitively.
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>>146342436
Argument of a typical casual shitter.
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>>146342495
>Overwatch
>competitvely
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>>146342436
except i think it's fun to try to be the best you can be and get the best gear you can

and that's what video games are about friend

fun
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>>146342495
>he spams the fuck out of projectiles on chokepoints competively
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>>146342510
>Being a casual shitter in a casual shitter game

I'm doing it right, though.
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>>146341684
>too chickenshit to say who you are
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>>146342683
And people like you are the reason XIV is the way it is right now. Good job!
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>youre a shitter if you dont have a horde weapon!
>oh but who cares about an a8s clear because i dont have one either

My favorite hour.
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>>146342782
XIV is the way it is because it copied a casual shitter MMO as a cash-in.

Speaking of casual shitter's anyone know this guy from LoL? His character's looking boss:

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/11610756/

Doesn't seem he takes this game seriously either. :/
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>ywn have a gf who sucks you up while playing causing you to wipe your pt as a tank because her bomb head makes you go into convulsions
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>>146341684
nice vaguepost my man, post the name pussy or it never happened
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>tfw lost your onion helm
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>>146343057
>>146342770
>ultrash this scared about getting called out for being shitters

lol
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>>146343282
every ultrash player I've qd up with has made me have to use defiance, bet you couldnt do that lmao with your 1.2k dps ass
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>>146343282
not either of the people you replied to but dude I get called shit all day you think I really care lol
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>>146343282
>Still vagueposting when it does nothing
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>>146342770
he didn't even call out the person who was supposedly in his group
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>>146343409
>i don't care
>responds
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>>146343282
>this butthurt over ultrash you think everyone is them

How badly did they damage your brain with their bullying to get you this paranoid?
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>>146343559
no I just think it's funny that literally every post in this thread is apparently ultrash these days
>>
paging cg
>>
So who the fuck is Unukalhai? Leading theories seem to be he is either the son of Gaius van Baelsar, some kind of being in direct opposition of elidibus, or possibly an incarnation of zodiark.
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>>146341726
>>146341979
that's okay too
i held my paladin glamour hostage until i got my horde sword because i wanted people to know that people who wear slutty glamours can clear content too

>>146342968
i was just gently bullying, if people have their niche or don't want to go outside their comfort zone that's fine
especially because if you are not fairly well connected or in a static it can be a pain in the ass to get 7 people with enough brainpower to clear things
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>tfw used Strife clothes as a quick and dirty transmog for my bard leveling set since the level 50 clothes look ridiculous
If you see me, feel free to smack me in the face.
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Can we can some Hyur up in here?
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I don't even understand why appeal to a casual crowd from a business perspective? MMOs depend on cash shops and subscriptions for long periods to make a profit while regular video games depend on how many games are sold to make a profit.
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best substats for AST?
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>>146343924
[scared]
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>>146343868
Aside from being the Strife outfit, it might not actually be that bad since asymmetrical outfits go well with archery.
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>>146343924
>search comment is "I'm looking for a long term relationship"
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>>146343719
I think he is the son of Baelsar, but is also directly trying to oppose Elidibus, out of spite for the Ascians because of what they did to his father. Son or not, his name pretty much directly implies he is going to fuck Elidibus's shit.

He has some tie to Urianger, who we know is consorting with Elidibus.

But you're right, aside from his name implying he is a direct opponent to Elidibus, he could also be Zodiark manifesting himself for some reason, because Zodiark is a serpent. But its more likely he is trying to cuck elidibus.
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>>146343924
That kinda looks like an orc that just had a mud bath
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>people think you're insulting them when you give them advices on how to look better
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>>146343868
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>>146343924
T-this pain in my chest.
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Can I have the ebin feet power rankings?
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i should probably get rid of this facepaint if i'm not gonna use the mask
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>>146344256
Give him the ≪D≫
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Just completed the story questline with the Fortemps brother that introduces Bismarck, how soon do I fight it?
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>>146344039
>MMOs depend on cash shops and subscriptions for long periods to make a profit
casual players will take more time to do things, which encourages them to resub to continue enjoying the content they are experiencing at a snail's pace
they are also easily impressed by fancy cosmetics that are likely to be placed in a cash shop

>regular video games depend on how many games are sold to make a profit
you make the same amount of money whether a hardcore player or a casual player buys your game
a hardcore player is more likely to slam the shit out of your game or else cover themselves in a fine dust of doritos and the scent of hot pockets not interacting with anyone while nolifing the game, while a casual player (assuming they enjoy it) will probably recommend it to their casual friends
>>
and there's the defense force right on queue

xivg - puppet theater
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>>146344238
hey Dante
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>>146344539

dont say that
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>>146344451
Level 57 story quests
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>>146344256
more like Clodd Stipe.

>>146344171
I actually like it, sadly. I just know exactly what people think when they see it. Which is fine.
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>>146344763
O-Oh
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>>146344081
You should really only be mainhealing as an AST.

I was going to do ACC/CRIT but since AST's DoTs have no accuracy requirements it's not really worth it.

I'd do CRIT/PIE or CRIT/SS.
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Are there any titles that calm your nerves about PuGs when you see them?

The usual Stalwart Shield / Axe makes me a little more relaxed when healing.
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>go make some main hands
>start with weaver i170
>never used gsm that much and haven't crafted in a long while but assumed cross class skills were fine
>86% 40 dura left so start finishing up
>don't have PbP cross classed

When..why the fuck do i have fucking rumination on this.
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>>146344958
The Final Witness
after all t13 is the most difficult piece of content this game will EVER have. If someone has that then they MUST be a good player right?
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which crafted pieces do I want for DRG? I got a weapon in a farm and feel like I should play the job again, and winning drops from midas normal is a nightmare
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>>146344380
oh shit waddup proci how goes a7s re-prog
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>pointless stat allocation (pigeon hole)
>pointless birth sign / resists
>no talent trees / switching jobs is really tedious with gear gates
>long gcd for no reason
>pointless pvp, silly chain CC, no class balance
>all content so far is face roll its impossible to fail
>game runs kinda nice, okay graphx I guess
how's my review so far? just need to try savage and I can wrap up my article for IGN.
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>>146345124
T13 is easier than T9.
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>>146345124
I genuinely feel sorry for people that actually believe this and aren't meme'ing.I have it, but Lord Protector sounds better as a tank.
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>>146345280
i'm shit at the game and i love f'telor's farts on my wang auhh auhhh -rpcoi
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>>146344958
> Thinking titles matter when most, if not all, can be cheesed.
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>>146345124
T12 was harder than T13 on release, T9 was harder than both.

Overall fcob was a joke because we were somewhat overgeared for it straight on release day. 3.4 alexander will be the same too, we got 3 tiers of gear on this patch while i240 should be for 3.4, not 3.2 endgame
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>>146345669
hahaha nigga what
t12 was the easiest fight in fcob
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anyone wanna die together yet
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>>146344875
ugly
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>>146345731
If you were a melee dps with healers, tanks and range doing all the work, yea, t12 was the easiest. All you had to do as melee was not being shit at pressing buttons in sequence.
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Is there like a meta guide to understanding crafting rotations, skills, etc for new people updated to 3.3? Im starting to get these to 50 and I have no idea what im doing.
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>>146345824
Not with that hair
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>>146344958
<The Heart of the Party>
<The Final Witness>
<Domitrix>
<Deck Holder>

But in all seriousness the only ones that come to mind are the Tankless Job titles, but I've still seen my fair share of tanks be pretty horrible even with those.
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>>146345950
post roe butt
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>>146345918
not for 3.3 but it works
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/3r9owv/lv60_crafting_macros_took_out_the_guesswork_for/
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>>146345897
You forgot walking out of aoes.
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>>146345950
POST THE FOLLOWING:

1) BUTT
2) PITTS
3) FEET
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>>146346036
Okay. Im terms of cross class skills which takes priority? Right now I have all the 15 ones, CUL 37, CRP 50 and WVR 50. What are some that are NECESSARY to bring over to the lower ones in order?

Right now im doing Steady Hand II->Hasty Touch->Byregot->Waste Not

On the matter of Waste Not, when should I be using all these skills to recover or prevent durability loss? Do any just flat out get replaced?
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>>146345897
>>146346113
>mfw raid all of 2.x as monk
>never had to do shit

I was the best player in my static and i still got carried
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>>146346169
Those all belong to me, bub.
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>>146345824
ugly
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>>146345950
Combining titles when?
<Domitrix> Player Name <Deck Holding Heart of the Party they Finally Witnessed>
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>>146346246
Check each rotation and see whats needed.
The ones you must have is usually comfort zone, byregots blessing, careful synthesis II, ingenuity II, steady hand II and waste not. The rest depends on what you're doing.
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Lonely miqo'te looking for friends

pst
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>>146346265
nothing says fat loser irl like making a character with too much blush
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>>146345824
It will cost you 10 million gil
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>>146344958
Not a single one. Title wearers are either trash or they're pricks who bitch and moan or aren't team players.
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>>146345824
hit up meria for suicide deals
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>>146346021
>>146346169
1) Doesn't exist, a myth told to children to give them hope in bleak times
2 and 3) Tournament hand-out only, only one winner known to exist.
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>tfw replaced
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>>146346640
God damn, Roes are fucking ugly.
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>>146346745
i know this feel...
who replaced you...
>>
Looking for tall elezen mommy to cuddle me all day.
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>>146346809
My ex...
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>>146346748
fuck off cis white male. roes are hot
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I've seen people running around in dyed eso armor but I dont see the option to dye it in the character menu.

Is there another quest i have to do to dye all of the tomestone armors?
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>>146347018
They should become dyeable when you upgrade them to 210.
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How hard is seph ex? I tried to read the fight information, but everywhere I look its just mr happy tier explanations, with little information about what the ability actually does, and just information about what to do during it, or just tons of conflicting arguments about how things should be done.

So far I've found most fights to be really over explained and made to seem way more complicated than they are.
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>>146347018
You need to upgrade it 1st, only i210 versions are dyeable
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>>146345501
>tfw stormlord now and forever even though it's a meaningless title
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>>146347083
I think they explain the blue and green debuffs in some explanations, but the rest is generally "if you fuck up you die/others die with you"
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>>146347083
So you're complaining that you can't find a guide with any info then complain that all guides over-explain everything?
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>>146347083
Depends on your group.
Look up a video. Better than reading anyway.
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>>146347018
>the black swordsman becomes the blackened swordsman
>not the blacked swordsman
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>>146347234
No I'm complaining about guides only providing half of the relevant information, and leaving the rest out, or they write an unreadable 3000 word essay about one simple mechanic. There doesn't seem to be an in between.

>>146347239
Alright, I'll just try to find one tomorrow. I've never done it before, but I'll give it a shot.
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>>146344958
Of Dragons Deep.
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>>146346748
t. loser of the faeriebowl
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>>146347083
An attempt or two will familiarize you enough to do it pretty smoothly. Just watch a video and you'll be good to go.

I did it first try with a random pf group with 2 new people yesterday.
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>>146345925
it's decent though

>>146346535
why would you need gil if you die

>>146346632
nope no way

people would be very very sad if she was gone
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>>146346873
Contact Madotsuki Yamoire
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new thread
>>146347823
>>146347823
>>146347823
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>>146347808
>not on Balmung
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>>146346640
these roes are cute! cute!
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Abandon yourself to me

You can only benefit from it
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>>146347804
for my children
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>>146348646

ugly
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>>146348730

Say that with a straight face
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>>146348789
>>
>>146349681

Says who
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>80 unidentifiable shits for relic quest
>people are autistic enough to do this even though the end product is marginally worse than even the ESO weapons
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