/fgog/ - Fate/Grand Order General

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xth for JETS

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best daughteru

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Nobu a CUTE.

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Robin a cute!

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ROMA

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>>146238342
Survivor's guilt a cutest!

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Xth for best archer

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LIZ THREAD

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>>146238331
>not farming time efficiently in 'Merica

>>146238585
>not bonding your servants

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>>146238079
Shifu!

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>>146238807
>not farming time efficiently in 'Merica
How much do you get there?

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Shuten yay!

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Best saberface eradicating saberface

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I love you Gilgamesh!

>>146238889
around 875 in the last 21AP quest, it takes you 3 minutes if you have Good Curry with Professor and I CE.

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New Wonfes exclusive figures announced

And look who is going to be #600 nendoroid
http://www.goodsmile.info/en/product/5721/Nendoroid+Saber+Artoria+Pendragon.html

And it is based on F/GO version of her

>>146239156
Edison's skill is probably overkill. When I was grinding that quests I used an NP chain of NR, Li on one of the centaurs, and then MHX on Mordred, and it was a guaranteed kill on Mordred, whether or not NR's defense debuff would proc.

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MUH

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A friend of mine asked me to try translating Kiyohime's Max Bond CE, and I told him to just go to cirnopedia.

Then it turns out nobody's actually translated those things yet????

>Aaah, I love you, I love you, I love you!
>I truly loved you from the bottom of my heart.
>If you call this devotion of mine fake, then surely there is nothing true in this world.
>That's why... I incinerated you. With all of my love, with all of my sorrow, I burned you to ashes.

These seem easy enough, so let's make a game out of this. First person to respond gets to pick the next CE I translate.

>>146239694
Kojirou

>>146239493
Neat

>>146239694
Do Siegfried

>>146239694
>With all of my love, with all of my sorrow, I burned you to ashes.
TAKE THIS
MY LOVE
MY ANGER
AND ALL MY SORROW

>>146239694
Pretty much none of the CE's have been translated

I'd go with Imaginary Numbers attack

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>>146239672
I'm glad that Sanzou has somehow gone and made Martha relevant again.

>>146239694
The only CEs that have been translated are the Valentine's chocolates and a couple of the Bond CEs (Gil's and Darius').

So, well, literally any of them I guess.

>>146239817
I was about to post this.

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>>146238549

>>146239694
C U C K E D

>>146239817
I was wondering why this sounded so familiar.

>>146239694
Shit, Kiyohime seems like a pretty lovely lass all in all
>>146239837
>darius
Mah nigga. Would fight the HGW with

>>146240098
>Mah nigga.

I think it was translated because his bond CE was "Door of Babylon" due to an interesting crossover in lore there. Riding on a bit of the lore popularity of another character allowed Darius to surpass a lot of other potential translations

>バビロンへの扉 Door to Babylon

>A vault containing all of the earth’s treasures.
>It is also known as the Gate of the Gods.
>In other words, it is the legendary treasure vault of Babylon.

>It is said that the gravestone of the Assyrian queen Nitocris conceals the door to the fabled vault.
>The kings of Babylon could never touch it, but a great king threw open the door without hesitation.

>Herodotus wrote that “there was nothing in the tomb,” but did the king not acquire mountains of wealth from the door?
>Did the king bring prosperity to the land solely through his just reign?

>At the very least, his descendants gained some measure of wealth. And thus, they were embroiled in a great many wars…

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Do people still look for pleb accounts? I'm growing tired of having so many alts, not fun to maintain them anymore, so I'm either going to give them away, or just let them rot because I don't have time.

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>>146240325

>>146240098
>kills you if you don't reciprocate her love
>lovely lass
It's ok, anon. She has no hold over you. You don't have to say these things out of fear of death. Everything will be alright.

>>146240325
Why did she choose that specific book I wonder?

>>146240702
>hold hands with a traditional devoted Japanese qt or die
Decisions decisions

>>146240762
She did not choose the Tanoshi life
The Tanoshi life choose her

>>146240836
She should play mahjong by now.

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>>146239694
>falling in love with a gae

>>146240975
Mahjong is a magic lesbian sport though

3 hours and 30 minutes until dissapointment

>>146241182
Wake me up when I won't ever be disappointed ever again.

>>146241182
You mean 3 hours 30 minutes until extended maintenance.

should I uninstall cheatapk for maint

>>146240528
If they have a 5* someone will probably want them even if they are starter accounts. They can collect story quartz and stuff.

>>146239493
>Seiba again

Shouldn't be surprised at this point.

>>146241283
That actually wouldn't be disappointing, it'd mean more Quartz. It'd be better than what we'll get.

>>146241290
It's just a regular maintenance to fix graphical bugs. No version update. You don't have to do anything.

>>146241182
>Continuous events lately

What if they suddenly announce Camelot, to be coming out in three weeks. They just give us the PV for now and leave us to stew over it again until it comes.

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>>146241325
You really shouldn't. I would be so bold as to say that for whatever reason, Saber carried the franchise to the insanely popular levels it is at now. I don't get it, but it is what it is.

>>146240702
Anchin was a fucking faggot and deserved to be killed.

>>146241483
Takeuchi struck gold.
He somehow made the perfect character design that has lasted well over a decade.

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>>146241612
>perfect character design

>>146241534
He make a right decision by falling in love with REGEND.

Shit dragon could just burn herself.

>>146241483
Indeed, it's just that the fact that she gets all the merch and not your favorite servant bothers me every time.

>>146241612
I'd agree with that if Saber Alter was the vanilla saber

>>146241468
Having back-to-back events was unprecedented, which leads me to think that this event was damage control. I don't think DW will make a habit out of this until the next fiasco, so I expect the next two weeks to have absolutely no news until the 13th hour.

>>146238237
> when your king challenges you to an eating contest, but you unrivaled.

>>146241935
Sanzou event was announced before the backlash happened, and before "no Ibaraki" was announced. The time in which it was going to happen was also confirmed before any damage took place.

Thinking its damage control is backwards.

>>146242067
>brown eyes
fucking japs

>>146242029
You can't really be implying that DW themselves didn't know there would be no Ibaraki in the event until then.

They were fully aware people would be expecting Ibaraki and that they were not going to get her, that's why this event is so soon.

>>146242029
It was announced before all that but the actual starting dates were given after the backlash IIRC.

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>>146239493
Nice.

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>>146239734
This is probably supposed to be a poem, so I was pretty liberal with this one.

>I cut myself off from the world,
>seeking my desires as a human being,
>and pursuing infinity as a swordsman.
>I who have long forgotten my age,
>am but a shadow of my former self.

>I am training as usual.
>The days pass, but I still continue, I never tire.
>In my dying hour, I will casually breath my last deep amidst the mountains.

>...At long last, my sword has transcended. I now brandish the Wisdom of the Emptiness.

This one took a while because I could not figure out what 虚空の月 meant. A friend of mine suggested that the 虚空 was referring to a Buddhist term (http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/kokuzo.shtml), but hell if I know what that's got to do with the moon.

In conclusion, fuck poetry.

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>>146239493
"Step up Mastah"

>>146242150
That's backwards. You're saying that they intentionally created an event they knew would be shit before it came out, advertised it for a month for how it would be a big showing, yet thought it would be shit because even before it happened they knew people would be angry about no Ibaraki, so before it even happened they created damage control event for the fallout that was going to occur?

They didn't know people would be upset or else they would have designed it differently. From the amount of advertisement they did they surely though this would be a hit. Damage control is only when shit goes wrong so you adjust the plans already in motion to lessen the damage.

>>146242312
I think the backlash was mostly after people started realizing they wouldn't get a free servant here. The first few days people didn't realize this was so bad, partially because they were enamored with drunk loli.

How bad this shit was sank in day by day..

>>146242656
>You're saying that they intentionally created an event they knew would be shit before it came out, advertised it for a month for how it would be a big showing, yet thought it would be shit because even before it happened they knew people would be angry about no Ibaraki, so before it even happened they created damage control event for the fallout that was going to occur?
No, I'm saying they planned out this event, set everything up for it to succeed and give them lots of money, which it did, knowingly advertised Ibaraki as the main draw while knowingly not putting her in the game and that people wouldn't realise that until near the end of the event, and planned the next event to be sooner then normal to smooth over projected butthurt over it.

They didn't decide to make it shit, what they are doing is running a business and after almost a year and the reaction to Da Vinci they knew exactly what was going to happen and planned for it.

And when they do release Ibaraki, they are going to get even MORE money. It's all about money.

>>146242594
It might be a reference to his death scenes in UBW and HF, both of which have him "casually breathing his last deep amidst the mountains."

There are two things DW can do

-Bite the bullet and just give Ibaraki away soon.

-Add her to the Gacha but not only create bad blood in the community but most likely have it be the worst Gacha profit they had for a "new" servant as there is only so much people will put up with.

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>people thinking DW makes entire events 5 minutes before maintenance and they totally aren't planned for months in advance

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>>146242594
Thanks anon

Are you going to do the rest? There's also the scores of other untranslated CEs.

>>146242594
It seems to just be Kojiro being really eloquent with his wording about how he just wanted to become a master swordsman. Its nice though.

If you still plan on doing more, can you do Drakes?

>>146243120
's what I mean

Sanzou event would have had to have been planned for awhile to come right after. Its no backlash event, they couldn't have thrown it together that fast.

>>146243084
How bad was the backlash? I wasn't too interested her myself so I didn't care either way, but I'm guessing DW got lots of angry tweets?

>>146243084
Or they just never release her.

Zero possibilities of a welfare? ;_;

>>146243084
>Add her to the Gacha but not only create bad blood in the community

They do this,countless time and people still whaled like usual,it aint gonna effect them abit

>>146243424
There's a better chance of Tsukihime remake coming out tomorrow.

Why do so few people have the fucking gacha CEs, even the nip whales on my list don't use them

>>146243424
Yes

>>146243593
I have the *4 and *5 one but couldn't roll the Gorgons.

>>146243432
I can see Nasu contacting them to ask them not to do this as he understands how much a dick move that is.

He was trying to increase drop rates earlier in the game.

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Alright, only a few googolplex to go.

>>146243385
Bout the same as usual as far as I'm concerned

They already get angry tweets nonstop.

>>146243753
>I can see Nasu contacting them to ask them not to do this as he understands how much a dick move that is.
The same Nasu who said in a blog post Iskander soon only to be cockblocked by DW for like 5 months? He has no control whatsoever over that kind of shit.

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>>146243753
This level of delusion is embarrassing.

>>146243314
I give you credit on what you're saying about the event not being invented for the sole purpose of damage control, but it was still used as damage control even if the event was made months in advance.

The key point is that they announced a new event to begin immediately after the current one in a time-frame that makes it looks suspicious. The time-frame being the home stretch where most people expected the welfare that DW already knew wasn't going to happen.

Is DW is such a Jew how come they haven't released Alter EMIYA yet? Alter Jeanne and Cu have rolled in so much dough they should by hopping onto the most popular male character already

>>146243958
>release all your big money makers in a small timeframe
You aren't a very good merchant are you

>>146243776
>angry tweets nonstop
I actually feel a bit bad for them.

>>146243958
Because they have to follow a schedule? They don't wake up and throw darts to decide which Servant they release next. This things have been already decided long time ago.

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>>146243593
>constantly try to add any nip I find with a GO WEST on Sanzou.
>One adds me.
>"Alright, that's goo-"
>He changes the GO WEST for the talisman drop CE

WHY
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT
THE TALISMAN DROP MISSION IS FUCKING RIDERS
WHO THE HELL'S GONNA USE HER FOR THAT

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>finish a 100 talisman run
>maintenance when Arjuna dies
I still get the loot right

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Woke up just in time to see I had 125 ap left and do nothing

>>146243954
Its exactly because of the time-frame that its impossible to be damage control I'd say. The new event was already created, everything was in place, and it was announced before the real backlash against the new event hit. It most likely was already planned to happen during that time.

Most of the backlash had not occurred by that point, people still had hope for Ibaraki until the end of the event, they couldn't have decided to throw this together to happen immediately based on the reception of the Ibaraki event from the first five days of the event. What's more, this event doesn't work as damage control, so that line of thought is also strange. Only way this event would work as damage control is if we got something good out of it enough to quell people. Yet we don't really get shit out of this one either.

I think if it was damage control they'd be a lot more overt with it.

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>>146244187
>do single meme
>LOADING
>is it something ne-
>maintenance notice

Kill me.
Now I have to wait 3 hours to see me new 3* CE

>>146244187
Maybe, but most likely it'll revert to it's last save point.

When is the anniversary again? I have been in hell so long I've lost the sense of time.

>>146244427
last month, how did you miss it?

>>146244342
>Its exactly because of the time-frame that its impossible to be damage control I'd say.
You know your whole theory works on DW not being aware that people would want Ibaraki right? They knew exactly what they were doing, even a child could see that hyping up Ibaraki for no payoff would annoy people. Planning damage control ahead of time does not somehow make it not damage control.

>Yet we don't really get shit out of this one either.
>he doesn't want the mystic code 5 apples we are getting in three hours

>>146244427
The one with Apples and Fous

2 hours until no cute martial artist girl.

>>146244427
Anon...

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What will be the skill for this /fgog/?

If we get it,that is

>>146244538
>You know your whole theory works on DW not being aware that people would want Ibaraki right?

There's no way they would design the event like this if they knew people would hate it and there would be a huge backlash. Yet again, this is the event they specifically advertised. They couldn't have thought it would go over badly beforehand. If they realized how much of a fuck up this would have been, they would have just decided to implement free Ibarakis.

They didn't create an event beforehand as backlash for how badly the one they said would be great would turn out to suck. The logic on it is just too backwards to fit.

>>146244638
Have they ever given a free servant on any of the non-unique map events?

>>146244774
Wasn't it datamined already? Arts buff, skill cooldown decrease, and something else.

>>146244638
What you talking about Anon?

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reminder nips are sumanai

>>146244853
Sauce?

>>146244774
It's just the concept art for the CE. Nothing else.

>>146244853
Are you retarded?

>>146244813
Did Honnouji and Saber Wars have maps? I also don't remember Christmas having one either.

>>146240245
>Assyrian queen Nitocris
Another good thing to expect in Babylon. I hope Nasu, Higashide and Meteo won't fuck up this chapter.

>>146243228
Game's still going, I was actually wondering why nobody was asking anything else.

>She was blessed with fortune, but she was never able to tell what shape it would come in. All she could ever see were the horizon, the sun, the raging seas, the stars, and her enemies. As these boring, unromantic days continued, the girl came to a decision.

>"I've gotten bored with Lady Luck! But I guess I should at least show some thanks."

>What she prepared was a golden helm. Shining on the chest of the demon ship, a single flower was in full bloom. And so it would continue until the day this ship would finally reach the heights of hope.

>"Woah, this is great! Seriously! It's like I'm a pirate, pretty tasteless huh? Gyahahaha!"
>"Okay, open a barrel! Or do you want a trip to Davy Jones' locker?"

The joke here is that girls are often referred to as flowers. And the counter word for wheels and flowers are the same.

>>146244947
All those are Chaldea Gates only, yes.

>>146244947
Yeah my bad, should've specified more, those had mission system instead of map, this one has nothing

>>146244783
>There's no way they would design the event like this if they knew people would hate it and there would be a huge backlash.
They didn't design the event for people to hate it. They designed a raid with a Servant gacha. But the Servant they advertised was not the Servant you could actually obtain.

This is because they are hyping up Ibaraki for a more profitable release later, like with Da Vinci. But, it's also obvious people would be more pissed about not getting Ibaraki because she was hyped more and the raid event is more expansive.

So they planned the next event sooner to smooth over projected angry responses. Stop thinking about DW in terms of a charity and start thinking about it as a business.

>>146244991
Santa Alter
>>146244934
I might be wrong.

>>146244853
Some anon made that shit up in five minutes just as answer to another anon's query as to what the mystic code could possibly do IF it was made.

>>146244991
>I was actually wondering why nobody was asking anything else.

People are trying to be polite I think, since you didn't say something like "Next one".

>>146242594
>I will casually breath
It's breathe

>>146244991
Do Marie's, it's pretty short.

>>146244991
Imaginary Around

>>146244576
>>146244698
>>146244489

That wasn't the year anniversary. It was the 200th days one.

>>146245027
Well we don't know if there's actual criteria for an event having a welfare, outside of ones that don't require being up to date on the story, but it's definitely not likely that this one will, sadly.

>>146244427
In 6-7 days, depending on your time zone. I hope you'll like your:
>3 quartz
>2 gold apples
>2 fou (1 hp, 1 atk)
>1 ticket that will get you your 50th+ black keys

>>146244991
You didn't ask for the next one, so I assumed you were done.

>>146245207
*300th

>>146245207
Actually it was 400 days anon. How long have you been asleep?

>>146245249
I think you're a month early.

>>146245249
Wrong month

>>146244342
I give up, I can't argue about this anymore.

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>>146245334
Oh shit, I am.

Waver's CE is so fucking sad.

I'm glad I reunited them.

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>>146244991
Stheno's bond CE, please.

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>>146245086
Well I guess I can appreciate that.

>>146245049
>What a wonderful sleigh...
>And what beautiful horses...
>So Santa thought in the clear morning glow, on the day after Christmas.

>"I can not help but wish for the year to end sooner... For 363 days of the year to be so pointless, humans are such sorrowful creatures."

>But the girl had yet to realize.
>A tragedy was drawing ever closer.

>...That's right. Who ever said there was only one Santa?

(Next Christmas event will have someone else.)

>>146245721
Sumanai next pls

>>146245721
Imaginary Around

>>146245721
Shit, thanks anon.

>>146245721
I hope next event will be Santa Alter vs Santa Nero.

>>146245721
>>...That's right. Who ever said there was only one Santa?

CAESAR
A
E
S
A
R

>>146245721
This is sad

>>146239694
>>146240245
>>146242594
>>146244991
>>146245721
Thanks for your hard work. Anyone saving these to tell Cirno later?

>>146245982
I didn't translate the Door of Babylon one, I'm just very good at stealing from BL.

>王律鍵 Royal Key

>In the Age of Gods, the domain of Man was still limited.
>The King assembled all of the earth’s treasures, and built a vault to house them.

>They were the prototypes of the various treasures born in later eras.
>They were the proof that human wisdom and knowledge were real.
>The people extolled it as the “Gate of the Gods.”
>Indeed, it was so.
>The vault itself would become a mystery surpassing the myriad treasures stored within.

>As for the key to the vault, none but the King can handle it.
>The key’s golden form shifts ceaselessly, and the catalogue of treasures continues to accumulate.
>Without the ability to comprehend the vault’s contents in an instant, the key will not open.

>>146246151
Can you do Siegfried next?

>>146246218
Yet again, I didn't do that one either.

>>146246253
Also I'm not the other guy

>>146245721
Feels kind of Dr. Suessy or am I imagining things.

>>146245982
http://pastebin.com/uAMxttac

I'm bored at work, if someone can link me to the original japanese descriptions of the bond CEs I can translate a few

>>146246869
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/craft_essence.php#nav

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Anyone not listed is canonically shit.

>>146246869
This one please, Vlad's:

―――どんな人間も私は恐れまい。
だが、悪魔(ドラクル)だけは別だ。

憎悪ではなく、享楽からでもなく、
必要な犠牲として、敵に恐怖を与えるために。
串刺し公は彼らを蹂躙する。

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>>146246869
Stheno's CE, Radiance of the Goddess:

サーヴァント? 英霊?
そんなモノになってしまうなんて驚きだわ。
それに、何だか変な感じ。身に備わったモノが
あれこれとカタチになってしまうんだもの。

……何の事を言ってるのかわからない?
なら、この手をご覧なさいな。

これは私のきらめき、女神のきらめき。その具現。
ああ、あまり見つめ続けてはダメよ?
───目、潰れるから。

>>146246869
EMIYA's

砲弾飛び交う平原を走る騎影一つ。
守護者は確実に、迅速に、
そして無慈悲に標的を制圧する。

与えられた使命に逆らう術はなく、
望んだほどの命を救う事はできずとも。

その志は炎の如く四肢を覆い、
運命に抗い続ける。

Okay does anyone have any idea what 霧の一族 is supposed to mean? It's literally Family of the Mist, and I have no clue what that's got to do with Siegfried.

The majority of the Bond CE is pretty easy stuff, but this thing is killing me.

>>146247060
Just translate it as sumanai

>>146247114
Back you facebook you worthless shit

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Who /snek/ here?

>>146244991
Looks like Drake's entry was done without me noticing

Drake says she prepared her boat in her CE entry, but I'm not entirely sure the lore behind it and how she managed to obtain it. All I know is that once upon a time it was called the Pelican, and she hates it being called that.

>The galleon’s original name was “The Pelican”, but Drake thought this name was lame (or at least ill-omened), so he changed it.
>...This is why when someone mentions the name “The Pelican” to Rider she gets seriously ticked off, but her foolish anger is kind of cute.

From extra materials

>>146246950
----Every kind of human fears me.
However, the devil (Dracul) alone is different.

Not from hatred, nor even from pleasure,
as a necessary sacrifice, to spread fear throughout his foes.
The Lord Impaler tramples over them all.

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>>146247147
>facebook

>>146243120
The fact that this event is so shit is pretty clear evidence that it was planned.

It's the good events that I think are accidents because they run contrary to the rest of the game's trackrecord of utter mediocrity that occasionally dabbles into outright awfulness.

>>146247235
Thank you

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>>146247203

>>146247203
Very /snek/ here. She's my primary Rider just because I'm a sucker for Asakawa Yuu.

>>146246963
Servant? Heroic Spirit?
I'm surprised I could become either of those things.
Also, it feels kind of weird. The things I adorn like this and that, have all taken form.

......You don't know what I'm talking about? Then, gaze upon this hand.

This is my radiance, the radiance of a goddess. The very embodiment. Ahh, don't gaze upon for it too long you know?
-----Your eyes will be crushed.

(not implied if she'll do the crushing or the radiance will do the crushing)

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Ooooh, Nibel means fog.

>>146245783
In the Nibelungenlied, at the moment of his death a great hero spoke out:
"This treasure is deeply cursed."
And it was just as the Nibelungenlied said.
Everything would roll and roll towards doom,
and not a single person could stop it.

That hero had never wanted that gold in the first place.
But he could not cast it away.
After all, the moment he were to try, the gold would seek out its owner and only grow in radiance.
And then, that day, that curse came true.

>>146239493
Meecow BTFO

>>146247060
Just from a search on google, Nebelungs means "creatures of the mist."

Nibelung is the name of the ancient German family which would give rise to Siegfried.

Also something to do about dwarves.

>>146247049
There is a shadow dashing across the plains of flying bullets.
The guardian swiftly, surely, and also ruthlessly suppresses his targets.

Without any way to go against the mission he was given, nor any way to save amount of lives he wishes he had.

With an ambition that burns like a flame across his limbs, he continues to fight against FATE

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>>146247651
>Everything would roll and roll towards doom

Martha's is pretty short

……その後、
聖女として定められたマルタが手にするもの。
生前に杖を持つことはあっても、このカタチではなかった。地上を去った『彼』を示す十字架に、彼女は何を想うのか。

>>146247651
Spartacus next, please.

Thank you guys so much for translating these CEs, but please don't stop with Bond CEs. I've been wanting to see all the CE flavor texts translated for many, MANY months.

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>>146247203
Here. Trying to max all sisters' skills while waiting for more snakes to get released. Level 7-9 takes an absurd amount of materials though, it will probably take 3 or 4 more events before I get every skill to level 10.

>>146247856
Actually a lot of the original bond CE's seem pretty short. This is why you never want to be the first of something. The game raises the bar after you have your turn.

Atilla

暗黒の牢獄に囚われ続ける、永劫の孤独。
彼女はソレを完全には認識できない。
漠然とした予感だけが、サーヴァント・アルテラの胸を騒がせる。

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>>146239694
>>146242594
>>146244991
>>146245721
>>146247235
>>146247582
>>146247651
Would you mind if I add this to cirnopedia? There aren't much people around who likes translating CE text.

>>146245982
I'm always here because I can't get out.

>>146247954
Heracles

――― 一時の剣の置き場。

弱くとも誇り高い、
ある少女がいた冬の記憶。

Waver

未熟、未達、凡庸。
ありし日の少年は、ただ惑うことしかできなくて。
そんな彼を叱咤し、共に笑おうとした王がいた。
寂寥と後悔と、ほんの少しの誇りを胸に、
青年は彼の背中を追い続けている。

Thank you based bored translating anons.

>>146247856
......After that,
it has come into the hands of the decreed saint Martha.
It did not hold this shape while He used it before his death. Towards the shape of the cross which He showed to the world He departed, what thoughts does she hold?

>>146247235
"Every kind of human fears me" should be "I do not fear any human"

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>thread is actually good for once

Based translators.

>>146247827
Zankyu

>>146247582
The radiance would, probably. Something along the lines of mortal eyes not being meant to gaze upon the core of a god's being.

>>146248134
It seems to be that one sentence from his Extra bio, however it went.

"I am not frightened by any man, but a devil is an exception"
—Mehmed II the Conqueror

I think

>>146248172
While that is true, Stheno is a massively sadistic bitch, and Medusa did try to pluck and crush Shirou's eyes in the UBW route, so the ambiguity might be intentional.

I'm not the translator though, so I'm just spitballing.

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>>146247582
Oh, and thanks for the translation!

>>146247951
Keep at it, anon. I believe in you.

>>146248246
Yep, so it appears.

>>146248134
Ah, yeah, my bad, that totally makes more sense

>>146247954
Continuously imprisoned in a dark prison, an eternal solitude.
She cannot comprehend 'that' at all.
As only a vague premonition, Servant Altera's chest stirs aloud.

>>146245487
What is it?

>>146248464
Not exactly what I was expecting. "That" being ayys? I don't know what this is trying to say.

>>146248464
>Buy Fate/Extella now

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>>146248038
Sure, but you should probably change that "breath" to "breathe" like that one anon said.

>>146247904
>And so begins the melancholic moment.
>The wildly enthusiastic onlookers, the screams, the jeers, the amber screams.
>And ignoring all of that, before my eyes gather my "brothers."
>A starved lion with worn out fangs is there.
>Its hunger has driven it mad. It's already too late for three of us, I can hear them being devoured.
>It's kill or be killed, the same for all of us.
>And that's why this beast's death is already certain.
>...How pitiful.
>Fix your eyes upon me, you oppressors who would play with the lives of humans and beasts.
>The mighty Spartacus will kill this lion in a single blow!

That's all from me for tonight.

>>146249012
Huh? Emotions. Altera in life was literally a emotionless killing machine.

>>146248058
Heracles:
-----A resting place for a momentary sword

Weak yet proud, the memories of a winter with a certain girl.

Waver:
Regret, nothing achieved, mediocrity.
The days of that boy who could only waver(pun unintended).
There was a king who would scold and laugh with that boy.
With loneliness, regret, and a little pride within his chest, that young man continues to chase after his back.

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>>146249075
Thanks, anon.

>>146249075
>the screams, the jeers, the amber screams
That sounds really awkward

>>146249109
Waver and Iskandar continue to be TM's otp I see

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>>146249075
>>146249109
What a comfy thread, thanks anons.

>>146249075
Thanks anon.

>>146249109
Are you going to keep going? Could you do the other Arturias next?

>>146249104
2deep4me

>>146249075
Thank you Anon.

>>146249075
the jeers, the encouragement, and the yellow (cowardly) screams

is what I got

>>146248308
Stheno really needs an NP interlude. There's no need to change how it works, all they need to do is give her the Asterios treatment. A 1 turn severe defense reduction (40%) added on top to her previous 20% reduction for 3 turns would make it very good support NP.

>>146249109
If you are doing more, can you do Saber Alter?

その心臓は竜の概念で出来ている。

大地の熱に匹敵する魔力量。
竜の咆吼を鼓動にして、
王は星の剣を一閃する

聖剣を最強たらしめているのは、
その担い手の力あってこそだ。

>>146249232
>>146249370
have to get back to work, but I'll monitor this thread

>>146249334
It would still only be single-target.

>>146249416
Thanks anyway, anon.

You guys are the best.

Was Shuten's post-event line in the Oni event DP ladder translated?

>>146249430
It would be very useful in a boss fight. Using it before your damage dealing servant's NP would be better than using that NP twice.

>>146249757
Pure debuff NPs like Stheno's wouldn't be any less effective against bosses if they were AoE as opposed to single-target. See Waver's.

>>146249835
Single target usually implied more damage or debuff concentrated on one spot. Like how Artemis is better than Gilgamesh in some situations.

Gil probably makes up for it with his new bond CE currently, but no one has that shit yet.

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>>146247993
This guy. I need to level him up to max still.

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>>146248058
Waver

Inexperienced, unaccomplished, unexceptional.
In his youth, he was hopelessly lost, unable to find his way.
There was a king who scolded him and laughed with him.
Shouldering his loneliness and regrets, and with just an ounce of pride in his chest,
The young man chases after him.

>>146249416
You da real MVP anon

>>146250017
I don't think there are any other single-target pure debuff NPs in the game.

>>146250103
This is a marginally better translation than mine, please use this in the future (I couldn't think of the word unaccomplished, kill me)

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Excalibur is equal to dragon's breath; it really doesn't make sense, Dragon breath shouldn't one-shot other dragons since they're used to fighting each other. Also certain other things it doesn't fit with.

The amount of buff it gets really doesn't fit what it was originally, especially now that we've fought dragons.

Liz has the same dragon core basically, same level of magic resistance, yet she's nothing special. Its not like Arthuria's dragon element was said to be the ultimate king dragon element.

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>>146250103
Kawaii

>>146249835
You're right but it's just not realistic to expect DW to change how the NP works. Giving it one additional effect is all I think they'll ever do with it.

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SOON

>>146250329
Liz was a sheltered noble, Arturia was raised to be a knight.

>>146250329
Are you seriously debating the canon-compliance of a fucking doujin?

>>146250529
He's autistic, you can tell from his post

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Alright

>>146250329
Excalibur is on the same level as magic used by divine spirits. There are multiple levels of dragons with divine tier dragons being the strongest.

>>146249187
You know, I didn't even notice that. This is what happens when you don't proofread!

>>146249317
Use this instead.

>>146250529
Some things are very important, like if Heroic Spirits can impregnate people.

Can ghosts impregnate people?

>>146250773
Divine dragons are Eastern dragons, Saber was just the red dragon of the west. Closest I could say to it fitting is that Vortigen is the dragon that represents Britain itself, and she's related to him. So that might imply its a special dragon that she got the core from.

>>146250863
Can my servant impregnate me? Btw I'm a grill

>>146250103
That reminds me. I wasn't paying attention before but what exactly caused Pseudo-Servant Waver to age down anyway?

>>146250920
>Divine dragons are Eastern dragons
You got a source for that? I've never read anything stating the differences between western and eastern dragons.

>>146250920
Wasn't it Merlin that chose the core and implanted into her? I have no doubt that the second greatest mage in history would be able to get the best possible dragon core you could get your hands on.

>>146250961
Toasters can't get pregnant

>>146250962
Young Waver is more popular so his final ascension is that version.
>m-muh lore
There's an entire interlude on it and they don't actually tell you, which makes the real reasoning behind it is very clear.

>>146250995
Shhh. Don't call him out on his headcanon or he'll throw an autistic fit again.

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Give us H-doujin with them, CCC!

>>146250962
Read his third interlude

https://chaldeum.wordpress.com/servant/caster037/caster037_interlude03/

>>146251093
I'd say they basically flat out said it if anything.

>>146251115
I'm not trying to call anyone out, I'm genuinely curious if Nasu has put more dragon lore out

>>146251093
It actually does sort of point towards the real reason, though, and that reason can very accurately be summed up as "young Waver is the popular one."

>>146250995
>In the west, dragons are "monsters," but in China, DRAGONS are a god-like existence. If dragons are the strongest of the Phantasmal Species, then DRAGONS are invincible... They are creatures who have no need to fight.
>But even those DRAGONS have a defect. When the scale under their chin is touched, the DRAGON will fly into a rage and devastate the earth with their rampaging power.

西洋の竜は“魔”とされるが、中華における龍は神的存在とされている。
竜が最強の幻想種なら、龍は無敵……戦う必要すらない存在だ。

しかし、そんな龍にも難所がある。
アゴの下の鱗を触れると龍は猛り、荒ぶる力で地上をなぎ払うのだとか。

Fate/Extra CCC Elizabeth's Matrix.

Just to make things easier for Cirno, here's the final versions of the CEs that got edited:

REGEND:
>I cut myself off from the world,
>seeking my desires as a human being,
>and pursuing infinity as a swordsman.
>I who have long forgotten my age,
>am but a shadow of my former self.
>I am training as usual.
>The days pass, but I still continue, I never tire.
>In my dying hour, I will casually breathe my last deep amidst the mountains.
>...At long last, my sword has transcended. I now brandish the Wisdom of the Emptiness.

Uncle Vlad:
>----I do not fear any human.
>However, the devil (Dracul) alone is different.
>Not from hatred, nor even from pleasure,
>as a necessary sacrifice, to spread fear throughout his foes.
>The Lord Impaler tramples over them all.

OPPRESSION:
>And so begins the melancholic moment.
>The wildly enthusiastic onlookers, the jeers, the encouragement, the cowardly screams.
>And ignoring all of that, before my eyes gather my "brothers."
>A starved lion with worn out fangs is there.
>Its hunger has driven it mad. It's already too late for three of us, I can hear them being devoured.
>It's kill or be killed, the same for all of us.
>And that's why this beast's death is already certain.
>...How pitiful.
>Fix your eyes upon me, you oppressors who would play with the lives of humans and beasts.
>The mighty Spartacus will kill this lion in a single blow!

>>146251205
I think F/HA has some things. The scene where Shirou pulls out Saber's ahoge. Eastern dragons are gods, western dragons are powerful monsters.

>>146250920
Excalibur itself is divine magic level though. Saber's dragon type probably isn't factoring into this.

>>146251194
El-Melloi II (Boy):
That… That can’t be… What would even be the point!?
Readvents are supposed to change you in ways that make you stronger! What am I supposed to if I shrink down to my old, incompetent form!?

Stheno:
There might be feats that you can only achieve in that form…
No, rather, that form represents “the origin of an idea.”
Your powers as a Servant haven’t declined, have they?
This form is strongest… no, most appropriate to you when you are fighting in a “leading role.”
Hee hee. It’s adorable that you didn’t realize it. Are you sure you should be so dense?
So I decided to play along with you. I consider it a most excellent offering to satisfy our boredom.

>>146251420
What a roundabout way of saying 'It's Zero fanservice'.

>>146251394
>Saber's dragon type probably isn't factoring into this.
I'd say that the extent of her dragon core being a factor is that it gives her the prana reserves to actually be able to fire the damn thing.

>>146251420
So, MC power?

>>146251093
>Young Waver is more popular

Really?
I see a lot of people prefer using El Melloi sprite than young Waver.

>>146251490
Direct fourth wall breaks are not allowed outside of places of learning or Ahnenerbe.

>>146250995
Yeah, I have a quote around here somewhere. Although damn, someone seems triggered by me mentioning this at all, since he keeps throwing around "autistic fit" and "headcanon" for any post that replies to this topic. Which is why I was trying to stay out of it after the original post.

Also I can post the other snippets of dragon lore that have been stated so far as well.

>>146251558
He isn't unanimously popular but he is definitely more popular, yes.

>>146251636
To be fair, a lot of people try to pass off headcanon as actual canon, and not even intentionally sometimes.

>>146251636
Ah, now I remember. All the dragon lore to date basically comes from Elizabeth's matrix, along with the eastern and western statement.

>02 - Dragon's Reverse Scale
>In the west, dragons are "monsters," but in China, DRAGONS are a god-like existence. If dragons are the strongest of the Phantasmal Species, then DRAGONS are invincible... They are creatures who have no need to fight.
>But even those DRAGONS have a defect. When the scale under their chin is touched, the DRAGON will fly into a rage and devastate the earth with their rampaging power.

>03 - Supersonic
>Due to her skill "Innocent Monster," Elizabeth has been incarnated as a dragon demon of mixed blood.
>Dragons have the strongest weapon which makes use of all their attributes: Dragon Breath. If a red dragon, fire; if a blue dragon, electricity; if a black dragon, acid. Their breath has a wide area of effect.
>...According to a certain rulebook, the breath's damage value is the same as their physical damage. That physical damage has long since surpassed humans, but when you think of it being spread equally among the members of an entire army, for a single dragon to destroy an entire country seems reasonable.
>Elizabeth's Dragon Breath is made up of ultrasonic waves. Since she has been incarnated as a demon, her lungs have become converted spiritual worlds so a terrifying lung capacity has become hers. With the amplification provided by her Noble Phantasm, Elizabeth's voice could be called a noise that could resound through a portion of the Tokyo Dome and destroy it.
This is the moment that Saber's rival, in both name and reality, is born.

>>146251773
>...According to a certain rulebook, the breath's damage value is the same as their physical damage.
This is a DND reference but DND uses different damage calculations for dragon breath and dragon claws.

>>146251558
I have no idea why. Young Waver is a by-the-numbers archetype of the wide-eyed Icarus dipshit who gets slapped by reality and matures. Except those stories usually end with the former-dipshit getting to do something awesome as payoff, whereas Zero simply leaves you with an IOU on him the awesome.

Pile on the fact that he's absolutely worthless as a match with Iskander since he challenges him in absolutely no way, and I can't imagine what anybody likes about him. Waver's only likeable in his older form, and well the hell away from Iskander, since every time they meet he just goes full retard and tries to destroy the world to fulfill some petty whim of his. Seriously, they already pulled that shit twice.

>>146251872
Is that true of all editions, though? I can't speak for anything before 3rd, and given the release dates of Nasu's works he would have been playing AD&D 2e in high school.

>>146251872
>Implying the english rulebook is the same as the japanese rulebook.

>>146252062
Second edition has them as different values, yes. No idea about pre 2nd though.
>>146252117
It should be, you have to try hard to mistranslate numbers.

>>146249210
Was there ever any doubt?

>>146250103
Is there a love more pure than this one?

All the other Servants are either sluts or crazy yanderes.

>>146252494
Gilgamesh and mud doll

>>146252494
Rama and Sita have the purest form,Gudako approved

>>146252580
Even Gil respected Waver's unyielded boner for Iskandar. He recognizes true love.

>>146252494
>implying anything being purer than Shirou love for swords

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>>146252494
Two artificial humans born on the Moon. Fake people are always more pure than real ones. Even Gilgamesh admits this as he's killing Sella.

>>146252494
There's no way Nasu isn't a fujo, not that I'm complaining.

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>>146252580
>mfw they held hands

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>>146252494
Vlad is clearly the purest

>>146252874
Don't be silly, Enkidu isn't that lewd

>>146252771
Shirou's love is weak. He sleeps with random sluts while Waver rejects all the women throwing themselves at him in the Clock Tower. He's really devoted.

>>146252923
I don't know how to tell you this anon, but they held hands constantly

>>146252992
Redman sleeps with random sluts, not Shirou. Shirou remains faithful.

>>146252923
>when you see him you will be glad; you will love him as a woman and he will never forsake you
And you know how Gil treats his women. They definitely held hands.

>>146252850
It's not really a fujo pairing just because they are gay (bi in Iskandar's case). It has little in common with BL pairings and were constructed as a typical ancient greek couple (younger beardless guy mentored by the older guy, that was the homosocial relationship that was the ideal in those days). It really doesn't match with typical fujo preferences of lanky bishounens who are rivals or childhood friends or shit like that.

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>>146253020
Constantly? No way, not even Nero is that depraved

>>146253038
>Who are Saber, Rin or Sakura

Face it, he cheated on sword-chan.

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>>146253146
You don't understand man, like every time before they went on adventures they would hold hands or kiss or some gay shit like that.
Enkidu is a dirty corrupt pervert.

>>146253214
He sleeps with them because he has to, not because he wants to. Mana transfer and shit. I'm confident that after their routes are finished he never does anything lewd with them again and sticks with his swords.

>>146253214
None of them have gone inside Shirou like sword is.

>>146253279
>Richard's pure smile
>Enkidu's joyful face
>Gilgamesh's passionate annoyance

Strange Fake cast is truly the cutest

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>>146253279
So the muddoll was a degenerate lewd pig all along? Was he even married to Gil?

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>ever doubting Type Moon OTP

Other characters get multiple routes and endings. There's only one destination here.

>>146253536
Until Achilles breaks them up. He wants to hit Shouta Alex's boypussy hard.

>>146253536
>>146253680
And we know Alex has a HUGE turn on for Achilles

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>>146253451
Married in spirit. Still counts.
I mean, one of Gil's prized possessions is Enkidu, and it's basically the only thing Ko-Gil uses. It's meant to be desu
>>146253440
They're all pretty great. I don't think there's a single character I dislike, probably the best ongoing spinoff right now

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>>146253536
Gilgamesh has only had mud boy

To the point that he swore on his life that he'd never have another friend as long as he lived, so that their friendship would always be sacred.

Meanwhile Iskandar has 10,000 other friends, and mentions in his myroom lines that he wonders what would happen if Waver met his other special friend.

>>146253842
>other special friend
l-lewd

>>146253810
Despite his design, Iskandar is one of the few characters who actually keeps his historical facts. Look at fucking Caligula and most of Roma. They hurt me sometimes.

>>146253842
Who's the other friend?

>>146253970
me

>>146253842
Gil's the one ignoring his childhood friend Enkidu for his Saberfagging in Sensha Otoko while Iskandar is the awkward otaku who asks online anonymous advice of what to give his girlfriend Waver as gift.

He is one of the administrations of Throne of Heroes. The 4chan and 2chan equivalent.

>>146253970
“Hm? You have a strategist with a stern countenance. I’d like to see him compete with with Eumenes- Ah, he’s still an immature youth on the inside. How amusing it would be if he met Hephaestion!”

>>146253914
He doesn't have Medusa's head emblazoned on his breastplate.

>>146253680
Nani?
Why would he want to do that?

>>146253842
Why is Enkidu considered a mud boy when its form was modeled after a literal educated prostitute.

>>146253970
Hephaestion, his best friend and lover.

>>146254131
Who was giving and who was receiving?

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>>146253451
iirc, Gil brought Enkidu to meet his mum and she eventually adopts Enkidu as a son

So they might as well be married (and I think some historians interpreted Ninsun's adoption of Enkidu as such too I think)

>>146254098
He's called a man in Fate/Strange, and he's androgynous fully as a point. That one farmer looking guy says he has masculine and feminine features mixed together.

Honestly he's closer to a barbie doll than anything, no genitals, unless he chooses. If you compare him to the prostitute when she appeared in the flashback, even when he first took on her form he made a few small alterations to make himself more androgynous.

He took on an assimilation of the prostitute, but not fully her form. Just more of a working idea of her form.

>>146254098
"He" is actually genderless.

>>146254098
He is actually /fit/ enough under those robe

>>146254076
Alexander is a fanboy of him and blushes like mad when they talked in his interlude. And he's pretty fuckable. Da Vinci and other characters want to do things to the boy.

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>>146254261
For starters he chose not to give himself breasts like she had, for some reason.

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His original form is a bit like a Moose, or Gorilla. Some sort of deer with a lot of upper muscles. It feels a bit Ghibli.

>>146254218
Alexander was the bottom that's why most tried to not speak about it. It wasn't so acceptable for someone like Alexander to sleep with an older man, but with a younger one, and less to be the submissive part.

>>146254521
Do we know how Gil and Enkidu's first meeting went?

>>146239694
This person is doing them in batches.

http://princemarxfucker.tumblr.com/post/146055565693/fate-grand-order-bond-craft-essence-descriptions

This link for example has Gil, Kintoki, Nero, Siegfried, Stheno, Saber Lily, David, Darius, Eric and Spartacus.

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>>146254370
>you will never be Alex's mentor
just

>>146254393
They were uncomfortable.

>>146254229
I remember watching a documentary on tv about the Epic and they said that Gil and Enkidu's relationship might as well have been the first gay marriage in history.

>>146254593
There's a flashback detailing Enkidu's life in CCC

https://tsukinoura.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/entry-111-someone-elses-dream/

It's up

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>>146254521
No, it's this.

>>146254597
You can self insert in Aristotle.

>>146254593
They fought until Gil used all his weapons and Enkidu used every piece of clay he had.
They went all out and still there was no clear winner.
They smiled at each other and said it was a tie.
After that they were inseparable and Enkidu started living with Gil.

Mud doll best waifu/husbando. Can transform into whatever form you want during sex.

>it is arranged for Enkidu to be seduced by Shamhat, a temple prostitute...and after six days and seven nights of continuous lovemaking she takes Enkidu to a shepherd's camp to learn how to be civilized
> six days and seven nights of continuous lovemaking
is this canon for the nasuverse version of Enkidu?

>>146254732
Wasn't the duel at the plaza after they've already met?

>>146254778
Kinda, sorta, maybe, who knows.

Its not mentioned too much that part. He mainly just keeps talking about Gilgamesh.

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>>146254732
>and Enkidu started living with Gil.
C-cohabitation?!

>>146254623
>first gay marriage in history
How progressive.

>>146254778
It is never stated. We only know she was the first one who taught him about humanity and their customs. I guess lovemaking also counts as teaching.

>>146254778
>>146254883
What did Enkidu use to fuck her? Mud tentacles?