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Gemini is a Cute Edition

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>>146026486

>What is this?
A place to discuss all rogue-lites and related games and topics.

>Some Roguelites
http://pastebin.com/rwnYefeG

>/NTG/ Pastebins
Character Ideas http://pastebin.com/M1rByCWt
Crown Ideas http://pastebin.com/TjhD5NAk
Soundmods http://pastebin.com/pkBLXYjp

>EtG character ideas
http://pastebin.com/Up96YEYk

>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rogue-lite
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nice job bumping, faglords :^)
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>>146197648
Why are you even here
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>>146197718
To make sure I witness the thread falling off page 10
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Don't let it die this time. We need to bump it.
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>>146197784
Put them up cowboy
|.___.|
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Post good fanart
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But why tho
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>>146202518
We need a thread don't we?
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Well this seems dead.

Just this weekend I stumbled upon Barony at a lan party and it was great fun playing it with 4 players coop. I also ended up playing it quite a bit solo after.
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Come on people, start a discussion.
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What makes a roguelite fun? I think it's good game play and in depth mechanics
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>>146203826
I think it really taps into that just one more try mentality because you can restart so fast.
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>>146203826
It's the balance between complexity and rng of roguelikes and gameplay that isn't made just out of combat reports from other genres.
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>>146203826
Good balance makes it fun. Which is why ISAAC SUCKS SO MUCH DONKEY BALLS.
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>>146206369
give me 1 roguelite that is well balanced
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>/ntg/ is alive and bustling with game discussion, fanart and some autism
>slowly begins to decline and die with the lack of updates, and the release of Gungeon
>reaches a point where it needs Gungeon to stay afloat, eventually dying
>/lite/ gets formed with the remnants of /ntg/ /boig/ and a few others

I'm sure I'm missing some events, but what exactly led to the decline of /lite/? Did people just lose interest in either discussing/playing these games?

>>146203826
They're built in a way so that every skill a player gets must be built on in order for them to progress further. And in turn, this makes players actually feel good and rewarded for spending the time to git gud. The only thing players can't control is Luck, which keeps the game from stagnating.
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>>146206905
/lite/ was nice, but it died and it should've stayed dead, instead of we got a shitty chinese knock-off of /lite/
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>>146206609
"Well Balanced " isn't exactly what I'd go for, but Isaac is either pea shooter or death, destroyer of worlds, where you're only doing a balanced amount of damage about 1/10 runs.
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>>146206609
genuinely curious because i don't know enough i guess. Why isnt FTL gungeon or nuclear throne (never played because im ass at gungeon) considered balanced
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>>146208157
nuclear throne is anything but balanced
you either get OP guns or you don't, also mutations are so RNG based you can very much not see one an entire run
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>>146208376
hmm sounds kinda shitty but gungeon (im ass so feel free to calm me dumb if this is wrong) seems ok with guns balance. I usually feel like i'm dying because im bad at dodging the patterns not because my gun blows ass
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>>146208376
>not see one an entire run

Did you mean a Good Mutation like Boiling Veins, cause there's a mutation every level.
>>146208731
>Guns Balance
It's even worse than Nuclear Throne, because you need to get keys that randomly appear in shops, and even then chests have a chance to just give you a passive/active item instead of a gun. Though, I will say survival is based completely on your ability to dodge roll, but a lack of good weapons, or weapons at all, makes this very tedious and time consuming.
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>>146209115
>good mutation
>boiling veins
opinion discarded
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>>146209115
one anon on here told me that if you dont pick a key up during the level there is guaranteed to be one in the shop i think once is that not right? Also, they sell guns in the shop sometimes but idk if those are bad or not.
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>>146209149
>Immunity to explosions
>wanting to die to 1/4 all the enemies
>wanting to avoid the power of Nuke Launcher

So tell me anon, what is a good mutation? Rhino Skin?
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>less than a minute to kill hush
Consider my steak eaten.
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>>146212280
Good, now all you have to do is unlock all the Coop Babies.
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well we were doing well there for a second
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>>146212280
NO ANON YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO EAT IT SLOWLY
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>>146215208
But edmund it was soooooooo BAD!
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>>146215208
>>146215753
All spice and no meat doesn't make steak good.
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>>146216613
HOW ABOUT SOMETHING MORE EXOTIC THEN
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Big announcement coming tomorrow, /ntg/ vagabonds. Try not to die until then!

While we wait, please observe my four fondly
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>>146218160
I think you dropped that, here you go
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>>146218526
seems you were off, here you are
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>>146218898
dropped it again butter fingers?
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>>146219114
Huh really makes you think
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>>146218160
>Big Announcement

Any hint on what it is Get Bandit?
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>>146218160
>>146220046
do say, I want to know
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>>146218160
Big announcement? I want to hear it! Guess I have a reason to stay up all night bumping then.
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>>146221791
It's the summer solstice, it's practically like you're not staying up at all!

I only remembered because of animal crossing
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>>146221791
im thinking it's a download for the bandit nt version
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>>146222943
I hope. Or it could be update 99, either one would be perfectly fine.
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Guys.
I think i'm a madman.
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>>146223892
>ThroneButt
>Lemon
>Various drawanons
>flockdraw

It kind of feels like drawanons is what kept /ntg/ afloat.
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>>146224585
Holy fuck it's actually good!
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>>146225038
what does that item do?
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>>146226314
splits tears on screen into more tears
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>>146225038
I'm sorry, do you mean terrifying?
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What ever happened to that Eyes collaboration that went on a while ago? I never did see the results of that.
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>>146232819
No idea, cant seem to find it on fireden
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bump
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>>146238354
Oh shit, not paying much attention, thanks for bumping for me. I said I was going to stay up all night bumping and I already almost failed.
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>>146240025
>file name
But anon, it says no homo.
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Post TFW you get lemon mishap
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>>146241672
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>>146241672
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More games need an ammonomicon type thing
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H Y P E
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P
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https://twitter.com/thronebutt/status/745325826653167616
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>>146242979
Oh shit. This is important.
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>>146242802
Agreed!
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>>146212280
Is Rebirth even worth it? 1000% the base game and only came back after the general completely died.
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>open twitch
>1800 viewers on nuclear throne
>some random popular streamer is playing it
>someone in chat gets banned for saying "did you know that fish can roll"
>NO HINTS TIPS OR TRICKS ALLOWED
you can't make this shit up
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>>146245003
>>146212280
Shit, meant Afterbirth
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>>146245182
Holy shit he is bad
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>>146245561
I don't know if I'd be able to even reach 3-1 on a gamepad desu senpai
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>>146245668
>using gamepad
>ever
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>>146245182
I just got banned for saying that screenshake is adjustable
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>>146242979
>Co-op Mod

Its good thing we all have friends and loved ones to enjoy the update with, right?
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>>146246740
yes
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>>146246740
What's a friend?
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>>146245953
thats some spicy ass bullshit
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So this guy is a bit of an asshole, he keeps banning people for trying to help him
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>>146247185
I don't know, he sounds like a pretty nice guy.
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Bumping with a great chicken run. I need to step my game up so I can get to L3 sometime soon.
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Vlambeer fix your game
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>>146249668
FIX IT
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>>146249668
Don't worry, modders have fixed it

In the Co-Op mod
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>>146250290
I can't wait
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>>146250290
That sounds like miracle work, how can I believe you?
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>>146251046
see
>>146242979
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Reminder that Shazbot is a madman
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>>146251563
FUCK I FORGOT THE LINK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIn68ffZR7k
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Going for Skeleton here. As long as I don't right click, I will be fine.

Please have a necromancer on this level
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>>146254553
>die in necromancer circle
>become skeleton
>get kamikazed by explosive freak
life is pain
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>>146254679
Man, That sucks. I am taking a little break before I do this. I don't want to mess up due to being excited/afraid of messing up.
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Shouldn't curse of the blind and curse of the unknow have their names swapped?
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>>146254553
>>146254679
>>146254815
>>146255031
My chest hurts from this. I still have to deal with 3 turrets and 2 necromancers right now. I am also stuck with a cursed blood cannon. This is terrifying.
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>>146255451
best of luck dude
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>>146254553
>>146255102
>>146255031
>>146255537
>>146255451
Please end my fucking life right now. How am I supposed to kill all this with a short ranged shovel? Time to do this ALL OVER AGAIN.
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>>146255031
In addition to posting filenames, does anyone have any comics?
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>Scatter Bombs + Sad Bombs
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>>146255818
Dumping a few
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>>146255975
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>>146251046
The Thronebutt operators began herding all of the modders together when YellowAfterLife first reassembled the game and published the first proof-of-concept mod. Yellow did a pretty good job ironing things out on his own (a lot of errors were from simple things), while a certain individual may or may not have helped him iron out some of the more annoying bugs involving the corrupted crown vaults from experience modding a certain ancient version of the game

Surprisingly, the glitch that caused barrels to spawn on top of exploded barrels in the desert instead of the last corpse that appears was NOT jw's fault. The first sprite (ind0) in the game was getting glitched out because of Game Maker, which caused some of the animation-based events to get screwed up. ind0 happened to be the Exploded Barrel sprite, for whatever reason, and the error was rectified by putting a dummy sprite in the frey.
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>>146256318
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>>146256316
If you want to know why the Corrupted Crown Vault glitch happened, it's because in generation, Chests destroy props. They could have just made it so that items aren't infinitely trying to generate on top of each other during generation, but that's besides the point.

Guardian Statues (props) are destroyed, they spawn a Crown Guardian, and destroy the Crown in the process. Because the stage isn't fully generated at this point, only one Guardian is active, as only one statue exists. Upon destroying the Crown, the current level is reverted back to the old area, which is why they're full of enemies.

Remember: If any of you are looking to develop a game, make sure to handle events such as death or destruction in scripts so that you can keep the entity deletion code clean.
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>>146257185
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It's 4:32 Am right now, I am absolutely furious at dying as skeleton the next level after I finally became him. Should I try it again, or cry myself to sleep?
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>>146257313
take breaks my man polistown201?
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>>146257417
How did you know? NT cut it off, but it's actually 2014 edition, not 201. I changed it for new years and never changed it back, should probably do that soon.
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>>146257576
>>146257417
2016* I should really go to bed if I am making mistakes that bad.
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>>146257576
It's just how you type
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>>146257732
Oh, alright. Didn't know my typing pattern was that noticeable over others.
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>>146257826
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Try to keep the general alive while I get some sleep, I want to know what >>146218160 is all about
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>>146258613
Thanks for posting all those comics anon, they were amazing. If you have anything else to post than do it, I'm loving everything so far.
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>>146259074
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>>146209574
Yeah, the thing is not a lot of things do explosive/fire damage.
Like what, lil hunter's flames? Salamanders? Cars?
There's a reason it's an explosive weapon mutation, that's the only use for it - and nuke launcher is a shitty gun anyway, there's a reason you unlock it alongside the golden disc gun, they're both trash - hell, golden disc gun is BETTER to start with.
When you're legit new, it's an useful mutation, but when you actually git gud you realize that it's useless when you're not using explosive weapons or when you're the shittiest character aka rogue.

>>146242802
>not a single gun stat
it's bad
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>>146259895
>>not a single gun stat
>it's bad
just a concept image m8
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>>146260042
I mean the ammonomicon you cuckold, there's not a single gun stat in there.
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>>146260071
Well that's a fair point, but do you really need to know gun stats?
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>>146260114
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>>146260173
>ask a question
>told to kill themselves
very mature
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>>146260173
what are you even talking about

how is this even a valid reply

why is everyone on this site so bullshit with their responses. Instead of straight giving a valid reply that can progress the conversation they only say shit like "kill yourself""this is bait", "don't be retarded", "are you 12"

i don't understand how you can type a post that contributes literally nothing but the fact that you disagree with someone's post and think that is a good post you are proud of making, but here is a (You) famalam. nice site culture you have here.
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>>146260173
>disregards opinions of others
>posts like this

I bet you do use Rhino Skin.
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>>146261768
>not a single gun stat in the ammonomicon is okay
That's not an opinion, it's objectively retarded.
And rhino skin is an alright mutation, although not great.
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>>146261980
fuck
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>>146261863
The anon who posted it literally said its a mockup. You could've said it was lacking it, but no, you just call it shit. Also no, Rhino Skin is a waste of a Mutation, because all it does is act as a crutch for taking a hit, and doesn't prevent you dying from certain enemies.
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>>146261529
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>>146262802
I meant the ammonomicon in whole, but I guess that's the intelligence you can expect from someone that unironically uses boiling veins without explosive weapons.
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>>146263041
Alright then. Guess you won the argument.
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>>146260071
>>146260173
>>146261768
>>146261863
>>146262802
>>146263041
>>146264335
Back to the matter at hand, do you actually need damage to be put there? Damage is irrelevant because of how enemies health scales and how items can modify your damage, a more productive form would be something akin to missing hud
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>>146264687
It doesn't matter, it's a ded game anyway.
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>>146264721
People still play gungeon atleast more than battleborn
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>have great run going
>at half heart because whore of babalon
>find item room
>money=power
>red fire is behind item
>pick up item
>die to bullet I couldn't see
FUCK THIS GAME
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>>146267098
git gud
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>>146267005
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>>146267994
is it really though?
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>>146269028
maybe
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goiong to bed bump when needed
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>>146269982
ok
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>>146271010
Black bats are worse.
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>>146271660
Green are the worst i just ment bats in general they all are anoying
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Hey /lite/ I am back at it again trying to unlock the skeleton achievement. Is there a crown that would help me on melting like crown of risk maybe? Or should I just go no crown?
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>>146272314
The crown of gitting gud works wonders.
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>>146272540
I've gotten to L3 before, I don't think I need to git gud.
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>>146272717
>only L3
>dying EVER
git gud
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>>146272929
Can I get a picture of how far you have ever gotten then please?
>>
>>146273121
L7 with Frog famzilla
git gud
>>
>>146273287
I said can I get a picture of it, anyone can say they got far. If you got to L7 I want to see it.
>>
>>146273375
Well, anyone can say they have gotten gud too.
I wanna see a picture of you reaching ultra as skeleton.
>>
>>146273543
I have only become skeleton once and died the next level. That may be due to me having crown of blood on at the time though. >>146255678 is what I am talking about, and >>146257576 is the closest picture I have of me making it to L3, I know that isn't L3 there, but I believe I deleted my picture of me getting to L3 because I already have around 100 NT pictures and don't need any more.
>>
I want to fuck Apollyon.
>>
>>146286048
No, if I don't do this, /lite/ will die. I can't let that happen. Unless you want to start a discussion on here, I am going to keep doing it.
>>
>>146286371
>/lite/ will die
/lite/ is already dead, you're just pissing on it's grave
>>
>>146286371
discussions are trying to be made, yet instead of responding to posts you keep spamming the thread with single word posts that are annoying for everybody
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Ok Im back, worst character coming through
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>>146286882
>>
>>146286882
What quantifies a "worst" character? I say it's a combination of stats and how they play
>>
>>146287549
The keeper can easily become a very powerful character but they are the worst to start with. awful fire rate while damage is eh, and the health situation is kind of bullshit
>>
>bad item
>reset
gud
>>
How much harder is nuclear throne then gungeon? Want to know if its worth picking up if it goes on sale or if i wont be able to get anywhere.
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>>146288542
gungeon is much more difficult
>>
>enter room
>get hit immediately
>die
why is this allowed
>>
>>146288886
you can't have your steak and eat it too
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>>146289038
>playing eve
>always have to get whore activated
>see it coming
>champion trite
>speeds down
>eurobeat blasting
>it hits me
>die
>I can see edmunds face
>he says it's like a $100 steak
>thanks mundo
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>Can't unlock Lillith
>Can't get past Big Dog
>Rarely see past the first floor in Gungeon

HOW THE FUCK DO I GIT GUD
>>
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>>146290109
only one way
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>>146290109
You must keep going!
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>>146290109
For Nuclear Throne
Keep playing, you get gud
For Gungeon
Keep playing, use your starting pistol to conserve ammo
For Isaac
Ask edmund for your steak, only god can help you there
>>
>>146290109
focus on one fucking game you retard
>>
>>146290479
fuck off mate
>>
>die to red poop
FUCK
>>
>>146288806
Oh really i thought i read from people that the nuclear throne was more bullet helly and harder
>>146290554
Does anyone actually like issac it seems like everyone playing it is miserable
>>
>>146293070
>Does anyone actually like issac it seems like everyone playing it is miserable
sounds about right
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Oh boy, how many coins will it take to jam the machine this time?
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>>146294410
1
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>>146293323
then why play?
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>>146293323
I was never really interested in issac and coming here certainly diddnt help me become anymore interested
>>
>>146295251
>implying you can stop
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[baneposting intensifys]
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>>146295876
That's some big damage
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OHHHHHH
>>
>>146295876
>picking up dunce cap
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>broken dice randomly spawns in
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will the nuclear throne co-op have widescreen?
>>
>>146302965
I hope not. It gives you an unfair advantage.
>>
>>146307539
>co-op
widescreen (and pissing off the whole general with a single screenshot) was fun, anyone who said otherwise was too dumb to make it work
>>
Nuclear throne online when
>>
>>146294582
That sounds about right.
>>
Explain NT co-op to me.
>>
>>146294410
>>146294582
>falling for the greed machine may may and not just using cheat engine
Wew lad.

>>146312534
It's nuclear throne but with another player.
>>
>>146312662
>It's nuclear throne but with another player.
I could of sworn that was already in the game.
>>
>>146312935
yeah but that's local co-op only because rami is a JEW and also a SJW mudslime.
>>
>>146313037
So we're getting proper, online co-op? Are we getting seperate mutations?
>>
>>146313154
Not that I know of. From the sneak preview I saw they had shared mutations on it.
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>>146313154
>>146314595
it's exactly the same as normal co-op nuclear throne, just no longer local

seriously get some friends you fucking degenerates
>>
>>146315265
I have friends you fucking nigger, they just don't play computer games because they don't have the autism.
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>>146315804
Git friends that play computer games then
>>
Will the online mod work for pirates?
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