Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj

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this novelty amuses me

Orsha guild when

daily reminder that lolipan is a cuck

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Beethoven>Atom

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Are we still having our meet up tomorrow? Is Futurepoop allowed to come?

>>146051972
>lewdsex
You're a fuccboi alright.

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>>146052016

templars 182, we'll see how much longer its gonna take when i hit the 186 reset

Marziluv's hosting the next pre-maint meetup tomorrow at the same spot, ch 4 woods of linked bridges. show up for maximum comfy.

>>146052095
I AM CUNT DESTROYER

>>146052050
So basically Beethoven is the honest, hardworking knight who gets NTR'd by orcs?

>>146052118
I'm Klai and I'm going to show up just to fuck Marziluv's tiddies.

>>146051676
New Zealand and my routing for Kael looks decent. fugg is 50 to100 ping and a reroll worth a more active timezone

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>>146052187
Klaipedos out

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>reddit microdick atom teams up with karga, jinsae, and discord to promote lies about lolipan/fp again
>beethoven destroys that limp dick quickshot named atom constantly and casually
so it was all lies by discord to smear futureproof? i knew futureproof were man enough to not let lolipan get stolen

>>146052164
Beethoven is the Druid who kills people at spawn.

>>146052201
>more active timezone
>klai
klaipedia is ded for aussies, you either go telsai or stay and get cucked in no guild varena

>>146052256
Beethoven is just the exception

>>146052187
FUCK OFF KEKPEDOS MARZILUV'S TIDDIES ARE FOR FAT, JUICY ORSHAN COCK ONLY

>>146052295
>>146052256
Beethoven's build is a monster at 1 v 1. And a force to be reckoned with in skirmishes of more than 5 as well where he can stay in the backlines.

>>146052256
Beet is easily our strongest Ace right now. Guildchat was like couch guys when this happened.

>>146052407

Which classes exactly he has? I'm interested in pvp bokor..

>>146052469
Cleric C2 Dieversby C3 Druid PD with max bloodletting and healing factor

he usually casually fights multiple people at once although at some point they bring more people than his CD

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I should of left it as a comfy /jp/ guild

>>146052532
Can vouch for this. It's a crazily strong build in GvG.

We have 3 of that in Comfy, and we can easily fight off multiple guilds with a party if 2 of them are online.

>>146052670
The /vg/ people in your guild are all non-shitposters.
Blame FP and FOE for flinging shit at each other.

>>146052715
>>146052532
How exactly do you kill anyone with that build though outside of telepathy once every minute? I mean you can just walk away from the owls, walk out of carnivory, and walk out of the silence tree range. I don't get how its so effective?

>>146052670
What happened?

>>146052715
Place it at spawn point. The spawn point will become impenetrable, and eventually all your enemy got caught in it.

>>146052853
It's not strong on its own, it's strong together with a team that plays with you. Your statues can push enemies back quite easily. You aren't the guy that gets kills, Telepathy is a meme outside of 1vs1 situations, it locks you in place so you are a very easy target, it shines by laying on pressure and letting your team push the enemies back.

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Anybody from Comfy online right now?

Could you ask your .lua wizard to make an add-on that properly logs all the kills/deaths your guild members suffer? Nothing too complicated, just a kill/death score, and a list of who killed who. If possible, the map and character level of the involved people, too?

I believe your guild could benefit from that, too.

>>146052958
>>146052853
Replied to the wrong post.

>>146052959
Telepathy can annoy the fuck out of your enemy by controlling them into portals, which takes them 10x amount of times to get back into war.

>>146052959
Hmm I see that does make sense. I kind of regret make a Priest3Chap instead of a Diev3Druid for my PD. Too late to level another one now though.

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>>146052790
tfw no Lalacow to water

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>>146052907
Turns out yuckani was a clover spy
But at least she gave me a maid hat, some ERP and this hilarious mistell.
Comedy gold son.

>>146052827
most of the mmos i played with /jp/ were on international versions with hotglue like 6 years ago. playing on japanese servers isn't actually fun unless it's exclusive and then you'll need a vpn probably while the game most likely isn't very good either.

the only japanese mmo that got me interested was wizardry online

>>146053148
God Patsch get your pet on leash.

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>>146053148
You got any more ERP to share?

>>146053148
I don't even understand, is this supposed to be erotic?

>>146053148
>weet
what did she mean by this

>>146053148
wew

>>146053374
It's a mix of ironic unironic erp

>>146053445
weet

>>146053148
>has left
Why this is so funny.

>>146052853
You just turtle. you can be aggressive with heal cure and incineration his incineration alone kills me with 20k hp

>>146053148
Do people really find this erotic? At least type attempt to type properly. Who would want to ERP with a retard like that.

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>>146053148
So Yuckani is actually like this?

I approve.

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>>146053316
I wish I'd saved more
Personally I don't understand why they ERP in game with this awful filter when they are both on discord and can just ERP there

>>146053506
They feel ashamed for wanting to ERPing so they put up this 'ironic' front to justify it

>>146053019
I will work on it, but not sure if it will come out soon.

It's kinda hard to balance between playing the game and coding recently.

Also, most pinoy guild being in neutrality make it hard for me to actually test it.

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>>146053527
ERP using caveman language is a new trend now?

>>146053501
I wish I could do 20k with Incineration. My build is mostly SPR so it doesn't do nearly as much damage. Incineration is also really hard to land as a Priest since we don't have and AOE debuffs like the silence tree. Gotta rely on someone stepping in a monstrance circle by mistake. I think my Incinerate level 5 with Divine Might hits for about 1.8k per tick on mobs, so 900 per tick*7seconds*2hits per second = about 12k damage to a player.

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>>146053643
Thanks for your time and work. I am using one of your creations and it helps me a lot.

You guys are awesome.

>>146053527
I don't even erp but probably for better immersion? Why would anyone want to erp on discord staring at the ugly blank space. Better in game wearing cute costumes and doing cute emotes.

>>146053778
w-welcome.

>>146047963
help

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Everyone has found their special someone to ERP with, but I'm still single and horny after what I'm missing out on...

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>>146054152
ERP is gross, you silly goose

tfw nobody to erp with

tfw my guild don't erp

Is anyone from comfy around I decided to say fuck it and reroll because dead timezones suck

>>146054115
Get a point in Roost, Hovering and Pheasant and you basically have all the "good" skills already. You can just keep the extra points open .

>>146054338
I think Katz is not online yet.

>>146054338
Guild leader isn't online.

>>146054338
>>146054389
>>146054402
Open slot for me?

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>>146054152
>tfw ESL with barely okay English
>will never be able to ERP with /tosg/
Why even live

>>146054338
You may have to wait a few hours before Katz is online. I think he just slept few hours ago because he stayed up all night for wbing.

>>146054463
We can have slot for you, but Katz isn't online now.

>>146054338
Are you me anon? I just hopped on Telsiai too.

>>146054471
ERP is a great way to practice, though

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>>146054471
look at what yuckani writes and get some courage to realize your erp dreams. you should join an erp guild to get some practice and maybe meet a special somebody while doing so.

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>all these talk about comfy and Katz
Ah fuck man, I really wish I stayed on Telsiai and did not reroll on Orsha. Almost all my friends who begged me to play on Orsha has left already and I don't feel like rerolling and doing everything again.
I do miss the Pinoys vs Comfy though, I was around during that time. The world chat was gold.

>people rerolling to leave Klaipeda
GBL was the biggest mistake ever done by /tosg/

>>146052407

What is beth's build? Is he a Chap meme?

>>146054792
Pretty much everyone from here that plays on Orsha were fucked by their friends

What class does Comfy need? Might roll there too some time when I get tired of Klaishit.

>>146054792
Report it to Staff MAX and get Zepross banned.

>at least three people reroll to Telsiai today
What's going on?

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>>146054935
The guild is actually cool

>>146054935
People starting to get tired of Klaipeda guilds

>>146054792
>LABAS MGA JEJEMON
What did he mean by this?

>>146054381
okay thanks, i'll see what i do with the rest
any suggestion on stat distribution?

>>146054976
it's more the NZ/AUS timezone is dead on Kael, for me anyway

>>146054884
If you feels like going for ET, roll an ET build (preferably priest) because we may start going for ET soon once we have more 270+ members.

If you felt like helping us on WB-ing, its either chrono 3 or fletcher 3 (we have people going for thau 3 so we don't really need those). You can even roll a rogue for the shenanigan too.

We can use some linker 2/3 too, but it's ultimately up to your choice.

Tomorrow patch notes will be released soon
Are you excited? They have already confirmed tomorrow servers open to F2P mass again so maybe we will get more than loading screens

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Noob question.
Is there anyway to get rid of this?

>>146055293
We will have more bots too!

>>146055293
I'm ready for 12 hour maintenance and 2 exp tome. Expect them to break the auto-queue system as well.

>>146055309
Repair

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>>146055293
>Are you excited

>>146055194
Exactly the same builds Coffee needs
Chrono3s are levelling but we have something like....0 fletchers(the only fletcher is supposed to have exams in this period) or thaum3 for bossing outside Dulla or not so popular bosses.
For ET if everything goes right in 5-10 days we should have 2 full parties of 275+ with their elememes,taunts,priests and whatnot

>>146055293
it's make or break with this patch. if they don't actually start adding korean stuff then i'll wash my hands of this game. not interested in getting content 6 months late for no particular reason

Regarding gear, if one was to stat pure dex and focus on leather would I want gear stats and gems to be damage focused or would I want even more dex, eva, etc.

>>146055194
>>146055457
>Telsiai and Fedimian busy gearing for end game content
>meanwhile on Klaipeda...

>>146055603
Damage. Also even with pure dex I think you'd be better off going plate.

I'm tired of playing on Klaipeda where nothing is going on unless you belong to the Aistra and Crimson circlejerks, but I'm also not really willing to just throw away my 1k+ hours of playtime. It sucks.
Two 280s, Team Level 39, and hundreds of millions dumped into my Fletcher and losing motivation to keep going every day. I want to World Boss but don't have a network to get me timers, I want to ET but don't know anyone that isn't already part of a group. I like this game, but it's suffering. I wish at least ET didn't force people to run in statics for the loot, now that everyone has already built their groups it's going to be impossible to catch up and get in anymore since nobody is going to want to go back to quitting after 5f just to get 1 person their gear from that floor.

>>146055194
Damn, my friend is a Fletcher3 but thinks of rerolling since no wb mafia is taking him. Should I convince him to join Comfy as well? We only play during primetime tho.

>>146055457
Well, we have all of them in comfy except PELTASTA.

And the real problem is most people kept rerolling after reaching rank 7.

>>146055342
Really? is that the only way
It gets really obnoxious when weapon swapping.

How do I build a ranger3-fletcher3? Do I go full dex?

>>146055293
Didn't they just say they'd open it after adding the report function? I'm expecting a few costumes, a loading screen, and a couple bugfixes.

>>146055739
Ranger3 Fletcher is only the best option in a group supporting you so you are going to get Crit Buffs anyways making your DEX worthless. If you want to be decent on your own you can go Archer2/Ranger/Scout or Archer2/Ranger2.

>>146055780
Yes and they said report fuction would have come in the next week patch, which is this week patch

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>>146055690
If I went leather I get access to these as well as other things, unless plate has better things it could give me?

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What's the cause of this?

>>146055702
I have a non-tosg group thats kind of new to mafiaing but we have been taking quite a lot of cubes. We have 2 Fletchers atm but can always use more leave your name I'll add you.

>>146055457
Can I join? Because I just started in Telsiai and aiming for fletcher right now.
It's A1R1Sapper1(2 soon) though. Is it suboptimal for what you needed? Because I find this easier to level solo and doing dungeons better.

>>146055703
I will be honest with you, Comfy is not a wb mafia yet (because we started quite late in this). We have our own timer, but we can't get the wb reliably if the wb mafia caught wind of it, unless we got lucky and the wb spawn on our dps.

We are mostly camping for wb where the channel just fucked up such that we can get the wb uncontested.

More fletcher 3 is always good if your friend is okay with our current state. Though, we may have to wait for Katz to be online to check if he will be accepting someone not from /tosg/. So, don't convince him yet until Katz reply.

>>146055702
this is impossible. /tosg/ doesn't have anybody with those kind of stats. the best fletcher on klaipeda haven't even dumped 200mil onto their character yet cause they got magic arrow at like 75% and get just collect easy loot. if you had those stats you could just add people and let them camp world boss and then message you when they spawn for easy cubes.

>>146055052
Literally "Come out 'jejemons'!"
Jejemons might as well be autists

>>146055949
>Jejemons
Is this pinoy meme?

>>146055917
It requires Discord voice communication with a Chinese guy barking orders in broken english though.

>>146055920
Coffee is on Fedimian

>>146055991
Ah well. Here's hoping Comfy will adopt my pathetic ass.

>>146055457
>doing ET in this current state of ToS.

>>146055983
So just like my SEA primetime GW2 WvW days then?

>>146056068
You want to ignore the only thing that can be considered end-game content in a game where end-game content is lacking already? You may as well go to the ERP retirement home.

>>146055981
Not exactly a meme, but more of a subculture? or perhaps a phase?
A telltale sign: they type similarly to l33t speak but with redundant + nonsense letters added in

>>146056064
I'm pretty sure Comfy is okay with any build.

Though as an advice, it's better to go for a meta build because you will definitely regret and reroll later like some of our guildmates.

Also, we can support you with cafrisun and some starting silver for pardoner buff so I think the sapper for easy leveling argument is kinda invalid.

>>146055940
I have 85% on Meme Arrow, like 65-something on Barbed, and 70 on Spiral. Most of my money was trying to get a good Isbality but I still never managed to RNG one with a decent awakening over +13. Maybe not exactly hundreds of millions but a decent chunk of money and effort that I'm not willing to just throw away.

>>146055983
>>146055917
I think I'm pretty much just done with the game for now to be honest. I don't care too much about world bosses and making money anymore, feels redundant when I can't funnel it to my elememe to do ET on it anyways

Will Klaipedo just watch as people quit their server? Who's gonna be the guy who'll make Klaipedo great again?

>>146056206
Can I have your stuff?

>>146056301
No, I still like the game and play occasionally, probably not gonna go hard again until R8 comes out though

>>146056206
>buy a recipe and complete it then transfer it to your elememer and sell it
>buy an item and just transfer it to resell it on your elememer
>transfer recipes from world boss to your elememer
what's going on with you? if you wanna quit then go for it though. unless they add stuff like arena and gvg this patch then there's no particular reason to keep playing

so the cancer of coffeehouse really is clarion and trueneet?

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=488
IT'S TIME

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It's time
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=488

>>146056383
explain for people who don't follow the pony guild

>>146056421
>>146056426
>they're actually adding the new costumes
>and the marketplace reporting update
NEW PLAYERS SOON
NEW PLAYERS SOON
NEW PLAYERS SOON

>>146056365
Read my post, there is no point in upgrading my ele further since there are no ET groups willing to take it in.

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>>146056383
yes

>>146056421
>>146056426
wheres my swordie buff??????

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>>146055293
>Excited
No.

We won't get nothing relevant, maybe cosmetics. Despite what we get, the game will still definitely be unstable for two fucking weeks again, not due to new players, but for IMC shitass coding that only survives in korea due to infrastructure.

I've dropped this game since I hit 230, this was what, more than a month ago, and since then there has been nothing that makes me even slightly interested in coming back. >alts in a quest game, no thank you.

>>146056421
>>146056426
Fucking told you guys swordman STR buff isn't coming.

>>146056421
>>146056426
Brb kyssing myself

>>146056426
>>146056421
i don't get it. where's the stuff they said they're adding for swordsman for example?
>>146056524
go get 100 frost cloud+20 rod then you'll have any number of people begging you to come

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>>146056426
>>146056421
HOLY SHIT

THEY FUCKING DID IT

GVG
ALL KOREANS COSTUMES (THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGHOUTLY BUGTESTED TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T HAVE BUGS AM I RIGHT)
ALL BALANCE CHANGES
R8
240+ QUESTS
REWORKING OF ALL ITEMS TO MAKE ITEMIZATION NOT SHIT
OPTIMIZATION CHANGES THAT MAKE THE GAME MORE THAN 1 FPS

HOW DOES IMC DOES IT????

>>146056630
swordsman is for ktos

>>146056630
>where's the stuff they said they're adding for swordsman for example?
It wasn't a typo. They meant exactly that; it's for kToS.

Cuckatrice costume for Lolipan

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>>146056421
>>146056426
>no new loading screens

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>>146056421
>>146056426
IS THIS ACTAULLY HAPPENUINGI

Oh well, I hope they don't break something after the maintenance.

Gonna rack up those RP (Role Playing) points.

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>people hyped for this patch
>it's literally "here, pay us for this costume on this unfinished game"

Humanity was a mistake.

imc really knows how to shit the bed.

>After an item is reported five times, it will no longer be able to be purchased or retrieved unless processed by a GM.
this is going to be used to grief people selling expensive items on the market. good luck getting a petamion cause people will just report it. you can also make new steam accounts and then report items. just get 5 alt accounts to grief people with

that's just what you're getting. lets talk about what you're not getting: anything good from korea

they actually mention how ktos is getting great swordsman buffs while itos has been shit since release cause they nerfed it and haven't done anything to buff it. i can't believe how stupid this company is. well, see you guys when they decide to actually improve the quality of the game

>>146056435
>Clarion
Hardly even reply in guild chat, she (he) just erps in a corner with her fuckboys.

>Trueneet
One of the few 280 in the guild, a reliable member up to most endgame content.

Nothing wrong with those two.

>>146056826
>rack up enough role playing points to be able to take someones item down solo
>crash the entire market for a while by reporting everything

I have found my new goal

>>146056435
>clarion
a dirty erping faggot who managed to trick cuckyba into inviting his exploiting fuckboi into the guild

>trueneet
mega autist who can't seem to comprehend that not everybody has endgame characters and so frequently whines about how nobody in the guild helps him with endgame stuff

ded thred

>>146056897
Someone really need to slap the "muh bot prevention" out of them. They're literally focusing on the wrong things all the time.

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>>146056951
what's next?

>>146056951
Poor Lolipan won't be getting any tonight.

>no swordsman buffs which meant in the q and a they literally meant "look at ktos get all these great swordsman buffs whilst you in itos get absolute nothing ahahhahahahahahahaha"
Yeah well I quit this shitty game than, thank god I didn't spend any tp yet since I was waiting on them to fix things but nope fuck IMCompetent

>>146052407
Beethoven's build relies on the enemy being stupid.

>>146056421
>>146056426
>No promised swordie buffs
Now's a good time as any to quit it seems.

+3 Max petamion is on Varena market at 8:37 for 1000 silver, believe me or not I don't give a shit since I'm quitting this shitty game.

What's the easiest and most forgiving class to play in GvG and duels?

>>146056421
>>146056426
>when they said "swordsman buffs in kToS they actually MEANT swordsman buffs in kToS"
oh my god

i didn't even think it was possible

i was shitposting about it with everyone else but i didn't honestly think

it's done

the game is done

just quit

there isn't any point any more

there isn't any point in anything

>>146056182
that's kinda nice to hear i'm going for the scout 3 rouge meme build again, and maybe a PD for pvp

>>146052050

mind control is a hard button to press

>>146056951
literally BTFO

>>146056421
>they actually meant the buffs are just for korea
wew, thank god I didn't buy tp

>>146057382
Sword3Cata3Dragoon. You literally just use a few buffs and use Rush all day. Just stack Con to like 100ish then put everything else into Dex.

>>146057390
What did you think they meant?

Did you really think ITOS will get nice things?

We're literal cucks for the KTOS faggots.

>>146056951
slightly better than the previous ones where lolipan is going y-you too and being a little bitch, but still terrible. this whole there's no winner or loser thing is pretty stupid though honestly.

there's a winner and loser. the question is can futurecuck win or not. even if you lose you shouldn't be talking with this kind of faggot in the first place. i lost respect for you cause you're even willing to discuss something with this kind of retard. when they're stupid like this the adult response is to ignore them and not kiss their ass as they insult you as you go y-yeah

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>>146056951

>>146050997
>>146050225

>game literally failing in KR despite all the nice things
>had a chance to giddy up in iToS
>focus on muh bot prevention instead
Is the CEO literally retarded? Because I believe he is right now.

>>146056951
>We held a tiny corridor by exploiting the game's bad design and spamming unavoidable CCs for 12 minutes.
And this is why open pvp shouldn't be taken seriously in this game. And I honestly doubt arenas will be any less retarded.
Even WoW never managed to get pvp right, and those people weren't some amateur gookos.

>>146057553

Atom here, you clearly are shit at this game too. You might as well join presenttrash

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- When an item is considered as part of RMT by the GM, the users who reported it will see their RP (Report Power) level increase. If the item is considered as not a part of RMT, however, the RP of the users who reported it will decrease.
How high will you grind your Report Level?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10533587/

So are you quitting swordcucks or do you enjoy getting fucked hard in the ass repeatedly?

>>146057724
dragoon are shit and only played by retards. there's any number of class which will dump on that kind of shit character so it's embarrassing futurecuck can't even put this retard in his place.

>>146057681
at least with arena some dumb faggot on a dragoon can't come from below your screen and teleport on you cause your server is laggy as fuck. that's why dragoon aren't anywhere worth mentioning in top 100

>>146057724
Nice try, but hes too retarded to even post.

>>146057816
I will try my best to get my RP to E

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>>146057864
This game/general is truly ded or the general is filled with archer/mages.
I can't tell which.

>>146056421
>>146056426

I'm sorry guys but I'm done with this game, I don't care anymore.

>>146057816
And it is proven several times that reporting done jack shit in bot prevention.

>>146058074
we have 2 people in a guild of 30 who play swordsman.

any vid of the fp vs val war ?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10533630

>>146058148

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TrqQA43GMA

how do i make a hotkey in autoit work while tos has focus? running as administrator doesn't help

>>146056426

I can't fucking believe I spent over 1k hours on this fucking game holy shit fuck you imc

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>>146056951
They didn't quit, but they left the zone? Well, at least this means they'll be back to fight again, right?

>>146057864
>poll directed towards swordcucks
Fuck, I'm quitting on basic principle and I have a Fletcher and an Elememe. This is seriously how they're planning on treating us. There are no longer any excuses. Original launch is upon us and there are NO signs of improvement whatsoever. The best thing, the absolute BEST FUCKING THING that they've done in the past month has been to release fucking CASH SHOP COSTUMES.

I'm just fucking done. I'm not going to keep playing this game. It's mildly entertaining, but it becomes less so every day. There is no content. I'm not in the mood to grind up a quality PvP build for the five seconds of entertainment I'd get out of it. There is NO FUCKING CONTENT. And they are not adding more. There is no sign that they're even working on the game, other than, what, the promise of R8 coming to kToS in MONTHS? It doesn't take that fucking long to design and program this sort of shit.

They've missed every deadline. They've used up all of their chances. There are no more excuses.

>>146058148
Ask Valhalla to upload the full, uncut recording. A few minutes are out, but they haven't published the rest for some reason.

>>146058298
>lolipan actually lets them control a choke that's below them and then they fight into them
when the video started i looked at the map and thought they can't be stupid enough to fight there right? then you went and did it. you think their strategy is good? your tactic is just retarded.

if you're weaker than them don't fight unless you're below them for an advantage. if you're equal then you can fight them horizontally. NEVER fight into them when they're below you unless you can crush them and that's not even talking about how they're controlling a choke to boot.

the proper response to this retard atom when he's shit talking like that is mentioning they had an terrain advantage and without it they can't win and how gvg has no choke like that or mention the results when you aren't a retard letting them control you like that.

do people run the 175 dungeon?
i've been sitting in queue for 30 minutes now

>>146056421
>>146056426

>no eye colors
>no wiz3 outfit
I'm mad.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10533691

>>146056421
>>146056426
>school costumes
Okay now I really need to make a sorc persona user.

>>146058731
So basically your plan is to run away and give up, while loli took over the choke point and killed the defenders after a very long battle.

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>>146058810
It's pretty dead.
We did it yesterday but that was because we had 4 people queued in.

>>146058642

Sounds like a super mad futurecuck

>>146058950
Well, fuck. I don't wanna have to grind to 186.

>>146058298
Thank you for the vid, there are definitely stuffs to learn with this.

One thing for sure is that fp are retards.

>>146058980
Use your cards and do the quest as you go.

>>146058929
>>146058731
Should have just controlled the point without piling bodies into so they can't come out and then launch a pincer attack by going into channel 2 and popping up behind them with your superior numbers.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10533711

>>146058929
yeah the plan worked so well lolipan is now known as a cuck and the guild is nicknamed futurecuck while this retard shit talks you constantly and you go y-yeah, but winning and losing doesn't matter

do you think running into a meat grinder is smart or will actually teach you something? backing away and letting them come towards you so it's equal meaning horizontal is what smart people would do. you don't have any blockbusters which can crush them and break the choke so dying like that is fucking stupid.

it's pvp training but you decide to abandon the most basic but critical aspect of pvp positioning.

>>146058731
>>lolipan actually lets them control a choke that's below them and then they fight into them
Sounds like lolipan had already succumbed to Atom's cock back then and wanted to teach his guidies how pleasurable it is to get beaten by him.

It's time to solve the age old question

http://www.strawpoll.me/10533722

>>146059275
Please stop with the strawpolls at this hour, they only go to show just how few people are online.
E.g. swordcuck survey only got 17 voters

>>146059113
This. It's really simple but they didn't even think about it. You guys deserve the humiliation you're getting right now.

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Time for a classic
http://www.strawpoll.me/6281831

>>146059346
dead game
dead thread

>>146059113
Changing channels is just giving up on the challenge. You're conflicting with the "gvg has no choke like that" part of that guy's post since it won't have channel changing, so you're implying he's wrong to say things like that.

>>146059182
Why would they come out of their choke point? They'd just sit there, talk shit, and claim victory. You're an even bigger cuck than they are. Do you think there's a penalty for dying in pvp in this game?

>>146056673
You're laughing, but remember how an armband freezed your game? Costumes are serious business.

>>146059595
>if you kill your enemies, they win

>>146059595
>Changing channels is just giving up on the challenge.
All if fair in love and war.
You were at war with them.

>>146059665
>You were in love with them.
ftfy

>>146059665
IS

Fuck typo, you get the point.

>>146059665
You're missing the whole point of the guild battle league. If you want to have that kind of war, do it yourself. Their tower was right in the middle of Miner's Village, so nothing is stopping anyone from declaring on them.

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fucks sake can someone on Telsiai trade me a seeker.
MUH BOT PROTECTION

>>146059595
>penalty for dying in pvp in this game?
did you prep atom yet? he called you his little bitch a bit ago

nobody says you need to fight them at the fucking choke. you keep trying to create this black and white fallacy, but it won't work. your choice was so goddamn stupid. i can't even blame you solely cause all the retards that went along with it are equally at fault for not pointing this out. bashing your head against a wall isn't smart or winning. that's why you're a cuck now that's being humiliated constantly.

why the fuck did you LET THEM GET in that position? you keep pretending like you had to fight them there when it can't be further from the truth. if you idiots didn't walk into that choke point they would've keep moving forward and then you would've been controlling a chokepoint instead of them. you didn't have an agreement where they get that choke point so from the start of the match you could've been all grouped together in that area where they were so they couldn't even get near it. the second i looked at the map i knew all the worst spots you could fight but somehow you had no idea and let them win before the battle even started.

you lost it with your choices before the thing started. you lost it when you decided to keep bashing your head against a wall. you're still losing it trying to back this idea work. you were wrong learn from it. weren't you sucking him off about how great his strategy was? well, yours was shit. so stop trying to defend it

>>146059823
>trade me a seeker.

no
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=474#patchnote_general

>>146059815
>missing the whole point of the guild battle league.
History of man are written by winners.

In this case, they declared that futureproof are cucks.

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Diev2 or Sadhu3?

>>146060003
Sadhu3.
t. Sorc3

>>146059976
>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=474#patchnote_general
HOLY JESUS FUCK NIGGER SHIT WHORE
its like they are trying to drive new players away.
I have over a 3 gigs of reaction images and there is nothing to sufficiently express my frustration and disbelief right now

>>146060003
Diev2.
t. Hunt3

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>>146060197
:^)

>>146060003
reroll into an archer.

t. sword

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>>146060197

got u senpai

>>146054338

>wake up
>browse /tosg/
>wait how come it's still dark
>yes I know it's night time now by why is it literally dark
>oh the whole neighbourhood power went out
>eating dinner with candle lights

Such is life in SEA.

>>146059965
After we killed them before we went back to the spawn point to let them regroup.

>they would've keep moving forward
If everyone thinks Atom and friends are dumb enough to abandon the choke point or attack it while we're camping it with larger numbers, I can see why Loli has to work so hard to defend them. Poor Valhalla.

PleaseI want into Sapper

help me anons

>stat distribution
>which classes to take
>Canon as end game

I just want as many explosions as possible, and Im looking into c3 Sapper

>>146060667
Archer2 Sapper2 Wugu2 Cannon
Big on STR, maybe 50-100 DEX, get the rest of your Crit Rate from gear.

>>146060734
c3 sapper bad?

>>146060790
Yes.

>>146060790
It's just more levels on broom trap.

>PvP literally gutted and removed from the game
>People still find a way to talk shit about each other over PvP

Wakarimasen lol

>>146060814
why? and how do I play sapper? do I play like techies?

>>146060865
Doddler posted a lot of Sapp2Wugu2Cannon webms in the past threads. It's basically mob > broomtrap > poison > kill them with Cannon.

>>146060861
うわああ、上手が日本語です!

>>146060734
>split stats
>archer 2 not going full dex to take advantage of swiftstep crit rate and evasion
Misinfo agent.

>>146060623
your whole shit premise is futurecuck is suppose to take the most vulnerable position possible which only has disadvantages without any positive about it. this is the cuckold in you speaking cause you want to be humiliated and dominated by your bull master.

>atomic wants the max advantage possible and won't fight until they get it
so next time you fight them you'll have your entire guild change zone into their aoe at the spawn point? i'm sure atom would love that. oh, your bull wants to win 100% but make the win less obvious? how about you actually try and think about how to make futurecucks win? or i guess this is pointless cause you're cuckolds and lolipan is the cocksleeve of atom so any thoughts about how to make futurecuck win aren't in his head.

you look for advantages and they look for advantages. i guess this beyond somebody think there's no winners or losers when they lost every single thing in the fight including the aftermath.

>>146060667
>>146060734
241 dex (184 points invested) rest str

>>146056951

Oh man is this lolipan trying to redeem himself?

D A M A G E C O N T R O L

>>146060978
>>146061051
You don't need lots of DEX for Swiftstep, just Crit Rate which you can get sufficient amounts from from gear. You are better off going big on STR with that particular build since a lot of your damage is going to come from spreading Wu.

>>146052256
So, how does placing an owl on a tight chokepoint take any effort again? Genuinely confused on how a reddit made build is now suddenly the new hottest thing ont he block?

I'm really confused anon, do i still shoot stuff as a sapper?

>>146060667
never listen to build advice from these threads, its a bunch of retards spouting garbage information to be shitty trolls rather than helpful at all. because they realized tos is a garbage game and all they have left is shit posting.

>>146061135
>cannoneer with high damage skills
>lets build our stats around our lower rank circle skills instead of our r7 circle
>swiftstep crit bonus is % based, more points invested means more returns
>you don't need lots of dex, let's go str instead which has no synergy with swiftstep bonuses
Misinfo agent.

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=488
>everyone gets pretty skirts
>archers get pants
I regret going archer.

>>146061248
You are literally retarded.
You can get enough crit rate to hit around 70% without spending a single point in dex on cannon, more if you get your weapons awakened with crit rate as well. DEX is literally a wasted stat for that particular build. This isn't a pure fletcher or musketeer build.

>>146061337
They're lewd short shorts.

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=488
>- After an item is reported five times, it will no longer be able to be purchased or retrieved unless processed by a GM.
HIGHLY ABUSABLE.
>RP lowered, implying it fucking means anything if they can still report new items
> - We expect to make the RP influence the weight of each report in a future update.
>meaning they can still report new items to take them off the market

>>146058298
Futurecuck pvp sure ties in with their "skill" too, pure comedy gold here.

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>>146056909
>>146057079
>leave character logged in on fedimian while afk
>X is erping again
I have never erped and never will. This was never funny for me. I tried to cope with it by joking about it, but cannot handle it anymore.
Bye.

>Stun and bleeding effects will no longer apply to Companions.
Does that also include the stun from when the pet loses all hp?

>>146061181
Flying targets also skills from other circles.

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Where to put points for Chrono C2?
Chronos have too many useful skills and yet the only skill they ever use is a macro-autocast Haste.

>>146061385
>DEX is literally a wasted stat for that particular build. This isn't a pure fletcher or musketeer build.
>implying crit rate is ever enough
>dex fletcher
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

tosturds, is it fine to just use vubbe fighter gauntlets then ravinpede boots(+poison attack) instead of cafrisun at level 80+? I'm new to cata.

>>146061598
Yup, DEX Fletcher.

>>146061617
It's fine if your skills use AoE ratio.

>>146061617
if you don't have any elemental damage mods on your hair then they. otherwise no.

>>146061617
You shouldn't be using cafrisun at all unless you autoattack alot (e.g. qs or chap).

Hell I don't understand why you even used cafrisun if you didn't use pardoner buffs with it since you don't use it for a measly 12 attack but the extra line

Why is IMC so shitty? I don't think I've ever seen such incompetency in all of my life.

>add school outfits
>don't add bunny gurl
Is itos the SJW server now?

>>146061689
>>146061660
I basically just auto attack with full element enchants and an arde. So cafrisun still? And will brandish even outdamage a onehandspear+arde?

>>146061769
Brandish is a one handed spear anon.

>>146061769
brandish is one handed. sorry I didn't know . what i mean is one handed+dagger > two handed spears?

Speaking of Cata, should I really use a 2-handed spear? They just seem generally weaker than 1-handed + arde/shield, I don't really get why I see so many people use Cata Pike and what not

>>146061864
1h/arde+cafrisun/pardoner buffs will out damage 2h until way later levels

>>146061902
because dragoon exists

>>146061940
Does dragoon need 2 handed for their skills?

>>146061940
So basically, 1 handed spears+dagger before dragoon?

>>146061476
>I-I was j-just afk guys....
>*deepthroats necrovers dick*

Sure, whatever you say...

NICE SWORDSMAN BUFFS
NICE WIZ3 COSTUME

OH WAIT IT'S FUCKING NOTHING HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>146061476
Clarion please come back, it was just ironically. Noone even erping, it was just a joke! Noone will doing this anymore.

>>146061979
it's the +damage to impaler skill of the cata pike anon.

>>146061979
They have a 2-handed mastery attribute that boosts 2h damage on large enemies and bosses

>>146061986
Yes.
If you really want to use 2h, craft a Trident (2h spears that get 3 hits on large targets).
Even then it's only better on bosses and certain mooks.

>>146061979
Attribute which gives bonus damage

>>146061918
Literally cleric/wizard have no excuse for being able to use a dagger in their offhand, they shouldn't even be allowed too just like they can't use pistols.

>>146056421
>>146056426
>- Each item can only be reported once by the same account.
>- After an item is reported five times, it will no longer be able to be purchased or retrieved unless processed by a GM.
>- Items "on hold" will be evaluated and processed by a GM.
So, if you want to remove any market competition, follow these simple steps:
1. Make five alt-accounts (hooray for F2P).
2. Report your competition.
3. Congrats, all your competition from the market is GONE for 24 hours or maybe even a week.

Good thing that nobody cares since trades are done in Talt anyway.

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>>146061476
>I tried to cope with it by joking about it

That wasn't a very smart thing to do if you didn't like it, we may have gotten this erp joke to far but I'm sure most of the people like you and would just stop if you asked to.
Except for the only fag who does it on purpose I guess.
Please don't leave use Carin~

>>146062079
Okay thanks anon-kun! Also what is your opinion on cata2 hop2 dragoon?

>>146061476
>gets triggered by a bunch of shitposting
Clearly from reddit, go back to your hugbox and good riddance.

>>146062158
I already posted that but everyone ignored it. But yes, highly abusable. As expected of IMC making totally retarded decisions to leave these sort of things automated. Instead of just completely removing the market restrictions.

Also people trying to transfer silver between characters on the same account will get false flagged for RMT.

>>146062328
What kind of content do you want to play?
General PvE? GvG fights?

Also is this build going sword 2 or sword 1 pelt 1?

>>146061476
Clarin no
Just no

>>146061476
Clari come back!

You may be an erper but you're OUR erper!!!

The guild just won't be the same without you sitting in fedimian fapping to your hot steamy erp!

>>146062328
>cata2
Cata3 or Cata0

>get grynas guys its cheap and easy to get, you won't need to get cucked by wb mafia
>takes 10+ tries for a single piece which might be a duplicate too
>gives garbage stats compared to roxona
>costs just as much or more than roxona to make due to pincers and blue spion leather price not to mention needing to farm god knows how many for a single pincer/leather if you choose not to purchase the materials

I shouldn't have listened to this /tosg/ meme and just went for roxona

>>146062513
Probably a GvG which isn't totally useless in parties. I've pelt1>cata1 as of now.

What does it mean when it says deals xxx% damage)

does that mean it deals 300% or 3x of my weapon's attack?

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inb4 complete waste of time

>>146062620
% of p.atk

>>146062564
Because of the Rush meme?

>>146062620
300% of patk/matk I guess?

>>146062647
It's faster with a party.

>>146062328
Cata is only good at 3 for Rush

>>146062648
>>146062665
thanks anons

also when you guys play archer do you keyboard or mouse?

>>146062647
Don't bother with that daily holy shit.

>>146062620
What most people don't understand is that it multiplies both your patk/matk AND the base damage of the spell, this is how cannon blast is able to hit higher than 20k with 2k base damage.

>>146062661
Yes, Rush is that great.
You'll be missing out Earth Wave 15 and Rush 15 too.

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>>146062725
Controller.

>>146062574
If you don't have hoplite yet you could go:
sword 2 pelt cata 3 dragoon

That would give you the best GvG cata that still has swashbuckling.
Be warned that you will be unable to equip 1h spears so you will have to switch weapons to use any attack skills.

If you already have hoplite you can still go:
sword pelt hop cata 3 dragoon

In this case you would be missing restrain, and are now missing the OP stunlock rush + restrain combo, but PvE should be pretty comfy since you don't have to constantly be switching weapons.

>>146062758
controller is best

Where do I grind at 230 bois

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>>146061476
I hope you never come back Claricunt

What's the leather equivalent of the grynas set?

>>146062897
cranto coast if you like shekels
storage if not

>>146062758
>>146062884
but if I only have access to mouse and keyboard what would it be?

>>146062897
Evac

>>146062947
>storage
>230

>>146062620
>>146062648
>>146062665
google tos damage formula you scrubs

>>146062742
So no max impaler then?

>>146062839
I already went hop1 for the finestra. Okay then thanks anon. I really wanted the +pierce damage of hop2

>>146062971
Mouse, the tab targeting is just cancer for archers

>>146062985
woops got the two mixed up, been at alley so long I've forgotten everything else by now

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What is bullshit with Clarion?
No seriously, what happened Clarion?

>>146062997
>So no max impaler then?
For what reason?

>>146062946
Virtov

>>146062971
Your comfort level. Try both. Personally I use keyboard.

>>146062985
Is evac soloable?
I've never been but some of the mobs at hall of fame are brutal.

>>146063045
mad because people found out about his erping so now he quits to save face

>>146063068
I've read cata pike adds impaler damage if that's relevant though at rank 7.

>>146063084
Hunters can.

>>146063104
same as all closet erpers, GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE

>>146063084
>Is evac soloable?
Just get in a grind party you retard.

>>146063071
danke

Abomination klai ch 4 died at 8:38

>>146063071
>Virtov
u mena elegos whatever the fuck it's called set, rite?

>>146063195
>abomination
who the fuck cares, it drops nothing worthwhile

>>146063272
I care

>>146062458
Yeah, there was two people who said it, but neither linked to those posts so I hadn't read them yet.

>>146062647
That quest and the Orsha side digging-quest are quite literally why I can't stand rolling alts. I'm too fucking autistic to skip them, ever.

>>146063260
Elgosh is cloth.

>>146063260
No he means ibre, ibre is the grynas equivalent but unlike grynas its not worthwhile since leather virtov exists.
Ibre also requires you to use pendulum around the map and actually killing mobs which means you'll get it alot later than grynas.

With grynas, you can have a full set by 220 or even earlier.

>>146063272
sorry

>>146063084
yes but it might be hard if you are swordman, igti coast is somewhat similar

How long does it take to get a level at 250+?

>>146063353
Ibre also has shitass stats, where virtov has stats you actually want on most pieces.

>>146063402
Around 1 /1.5 hours of grinding.

>>146063402
few hours

how do i grynas set? can i do it solo?

>>146057424
t. Atom

>>146063460
>>146063353
>>146063071
Where can I actually get the leather virtov set recipes?

>>146063592
JUST
FUCKING
GOOGLE
IT

>>146063543
Check Grynas Hill for torch every :00. Usually someone announces it. If there's a torch, defend it. If not, wait till next hour.
Battle the mobs that approach it.
Talk to the torch when it's lit.
Repeat every :00 for 2x everyday.

>>146063592
This is why I don't like spoonfeeding. Answer one question and you have to keep answering more. >>146063637
Asking for recommendations is fine but shit like that you can find out yourself easily.

>>146063543
solo? easily at 250+
you get it by torch defense at grynas hills at x:00

Most get it by 200 due to the fact you can leech off other people.

I had mine at 210 because I missed a couple days

>>146063637
>>146063694
Then just don't reply you homos?
Nobody wants to hear you whine like little bitches :^)

which one of you dudes are INeedMemes?

you just missed ur cube my dude

>>146063772
>help someone
>they just talk shit afterwards
lesson learnt, never again will I help tosg garbage

>>146063812
Welcome to the shitposting club

>>146063853
Enjoy your misinfo agents after you chase out all the legit advice givers.

>>146063812
Theres a reason people don't spoonfeed anon, do you really think the people you help ever appreciate what you do?

Should've just ignored the shitter.

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>>146063592
>virtov set recipes
240 dung