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/bdog/ Black Desert Online General

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>What is BDO?
Black Desert Online is an MMORPG by Pearl Abyss that was recently released for western audiences, with additional changes. It's a sandbox MMORPG that features action-oriented combat, open world PVP territory control, trading, player housing, and more.
Info from the site: http://i.imgur.com/r7VvB6h.png

>Discord
https://discord.gg/0vYcIJNhxt5cd4pK (join at your own risk)

>/bdog/ guilds
http://pastebin.com/GupJea21

>Guides
http://pastebin.com/VH3XrCYb

>Maps and nodes
http://blackdesertfoundry.com/map/#4/-8.89/-25.22
http://www.blackdeserttome.com/map/
http://bdomap.mmoguild.org/

>Useful Links
Wiki: http://www.blackdeserttome.com/wiki/BDO_Tome
Database: http://bddatabase.net/us/
Skill Calculator: http://www.blackdeserttome.com/calculator
Class Armor Sets: http://wodox.imgur.com/
Else: Google it before posting

>BDO KR/JP info + differences between NA/EU
http://pastebin.com/P2YqnsCX

Previous thread: >>145713302
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Anyone got a key? been looking for a new mmo and this seems promising
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>>146014447
You should play on the private warhammer online server.
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sardine or something whatever
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sorcs
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rip comfy fishing
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Is it worth it????

I work full time (50+) hours at a bank
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>>146017386
it really depends on what you are looking for
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>>146017697
Just something I can play on my days off mainly pvp
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>>146013982
yee Node Wars was worth the wait.
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>>146018225
i mean you could play fairly high-ish lvl pvp with your schedule, but you will never reach the no-lifers on pvp. Its going to be a grind to be honest, but, the combat is so fun you don't really notice it and recent patch makes it real easy to lvl.

that's my opinion as someone who has played since the closed betas in KR on my days off and have yet to feel bored
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holy shit the spot for farming witches earrings has to be the worst in the game
mobs are so spread out and the drop rate on anything is garbo
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>>146019891
are you kidding? i get like 2 every time i actually go with the intention of getting earrings
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>>146020081
Well can you give me any advice? I can't find any grouped up mobs and the aggro in this game seems to be wonky, half the time the mobs don't follow me even if I hit them 3 times
Just started playing a week ago and I've got a good necklace/rings, medicore belt but regular bares earrings
Like is there a certain spot or route you always take?
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>>146020081
how much time you spend on average?
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>>146019127
I am not trying to be EPIC PVPER RANK 1

Just trying to have pvp fun on my off days, anything to take my mind off work
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>>146020643
as long as you log in every day to pick up daily scrolls you'll be fine
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post qts
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>>146020809
thanks for the info

Do you have a referral code or something so you can get credit??
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>>146021308
there's an in game thing but I don't really want it
have fun
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You losers are still playing this game? Lmao why don't you play a good game like destiny or ESO
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>>146022332
I want to play a good game, but there aren't any, especially not the ones you mentioned.
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>>146022332
lolol xddd
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>>146020258
don't grind in the actual cemetery move closer to Witch's Chapel node, like directly in between Hexe Sanctuary node and Witch's Chapel node, close a normal forest, there is a pretty nice bunch of groups of mobs that have chance of dropping it. do some laps around that area, kill a group move to the next then the next, etc.

do the daily giving by that one witch at the entrance, calculate how much it took you to do the daily and like "do" the quest 1 or 2 times again keeping track in your mind or set up a goal for the day, don't go too crazy you'll just get frustrated

>>146020381
i usually go for like 2 and a half hrs with some chill music and alt-tabbing doing other things just relaxing and not letting it get to me, goes for every item i grind like ogre rings or marks, you'll get it eventually so why bother getting angry
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>>146022831
well I mean when you grind for an hour with 5 luck and don't even get so much as a black stone
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>>146022986
its just rng brah, also get that knowledge to S
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>>146023183
Is S a significant increase over A/A+?
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>>146023561
S is the better drops rank
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>>146023561
yeah but its still just rng i got my first witch's without any knowledge or node lvl
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>>146023183
only in my dreams
it takes me forever to get knowledge and even then it wont be higher than B
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>>146024168
well with that attitude it certainly wont be
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so how do these daily scroll things work?
why does everyone do them only if they have 5? Feels kind of dumb to have daily scrolls but only do them once a week
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>tfw you love this game for a multitude of reasons
>tfw you still have to quit it because of the multitude of problems
Cant have nice things ;_;
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>>146024939
You get one a day, which makes them daily. People save them up so they can clean them all out in one session and because they expire after 7 days.
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>>146026307
but I want to start getting my blackstones now
plus i got one from a random drop so now that'll be useless for another week till i get 4 more
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>be ranger grinding away
>melee players keep asking me to group or team up
What and why are they doing this?
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Any decent tamer awakening gameplay? All I see are shit arena pvp vids or steparu.
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>>146018225
For pvp i honestly enjoy eso
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>>146026647
There's nothing stopping you from soloing them. You'll just miss out on the extra loot from other people's scrolls.
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>>146026836
Yeah I know
just kind of bummed that I finally hit 50 and start getting these scrolls then told I have to wait another week before I can actually do them.
I've got two altar imp, one goblin chief and one moghulis. Got a ancient guardian seal drop and my belt is just a bares so I think I'll save up 5 moghulis or something.
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What is the best place to grind at lvl 51? Helms?
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>>146027254
yes
or elric.
I find helms easier, my friend have less problem with elric
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>>146027341
Thanks anon
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>>146027254
Yeah but don't go in the mines alone
if you do go in the mines make sure to avoid devourers and golems
I prefer elric as that gives you more money but some people have trouble dealing with the mages. Could also go grind for specific accessories. Manes isn't bad if you need a belt since they give decent cash.
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>>146027341
>>146027532
Ya'll down to grind?
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>>146027678
not right now as I'm trying to farm some witches solo but if you're on NA drop your name and I'll add you for grinding later
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>>146027002
Don't forget about the other black spirit dailies that reward hunter seals. They add up and should keep you busy for a while anyway.
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>>146027739
I'm on Edan
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>>146027741
yeah I've been doing them, though only two days so far as I just recently hit 50
I got a lucky ancient guardian seal drop earlier but all my armor is still at like +7 while my wep is +13 so my ap/dp is still under 200 total unfortunately

>>146027823
same
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>>146027925
Name is Zeit
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>>146028303
Kys my man
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>>146029561
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>>146028303
Is IC still alive? Don't see them with a node.
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>>146029691
>man hands
Just stop already.
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>>146026719
>? All I see are shit arena pvp
What exactly is decent PVP if not 1v1s?
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>>146029765
http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/92143-siege-warfare-manual/
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>>146029765
i saw them do gvg everyday last week
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It's so hard to get (You)s here
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>146031526
ikr
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>146031526
ikr
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>>146030086
So your telling me they are so Cucked they didn't dare do node wars day 1? Kek, pretty sad desu. Even ITC attempted.
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>>146033752
You need to have 10 online members to participate in node war.
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>>146034145
holy fuck, so IC really is dead? Was their discord deleted too? doesn't seem to be working.
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>>146033752
No reason to waste millions trying to get a node you don't want, just to participate first day.

>>146034629
https://discord.me/inner_circle
Still works fine for me
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>>146035035
Unless IC is going for 2 crafting nodes no reason not to get a node day 1.
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>>146029974
Open world, group, etc. 1v1's are easy as fuck on Tamer. Why would I want to watch that? If I have to watch 1v1 it might as well be out in the field somewhere.
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>>146038174
1v1s are interesting because they are usually against equally strong/geared opponents. You might be able to learn something. Watching biggers fights is kinda pointless because it usually boils down to you destroying fodder. Which is fun at times, but sure as hell not interesting to watch.

Group combat heavily depends on your composition. Your job at node wars usually is to scout. There arent a lot of Tamer videos because no one in KR plays Tamer. Classes design is horrible and especially with the awakening has next to no link to being a Tamer anymore. Might as well just call that class Monk, no one would argue that it isnt.
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>>146039162
This makes me feel bad for playing ranger.

There isn't any class I "like" more than any other so I might as well play the best one.
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>>146039468
You shouldn't feel bad for playing the sexiest class.
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>>146039468
There are a lot of people who feel that way. Even though all the classes being somewhat different, they are still somewhat similar. With awakenings that becomes even more obvious.

The game lacks special roles at this point, things that make a class unique. Where is the proper summoner? Where is the DoT class? For some weird reason none of the classes actually feel too different, even though all of them kinda being different. Its really hard to explain to be honest but I got my main to 58 and 5 other classes to 55-56 and it all seems the same to me. Burst, nuke, kill, split up groups, pick off key targets, kite until they make mistakes, rinse and repeat.
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>>146021290
They were removed from pastebin :^)
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>>146039962
Yeah, the only real difference it feels like is melee tanky melee damage ranged damage
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How does one acquire a waifu?
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>>146039468

>ranger
>best

Wizard/Witch is above and beyond the best class in every situation of the game

Literally no reason to not play one especially after the newest patch, Ranger is just a shittier wizard in terms of PvP impact
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Imagine how good this game would have been if not for Carebear kike Korean cock suckling cunts
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>>146039962
>Where is the DoT class?
>Dealing damage over time is now a class archetype
>Thanks Blizzard
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>>146042123
Worst part is that Wizard was already the most broken shit BEFORE the patch.
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>>146042123
It feels like wizard is a lot more vulnerable to someone just running at me and raping me if I can't CC them.
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>>146042321
FFXI had it, GW1 had it, sure WoW had it, Rift had it and many, many games before. Blizzard didnt invent DoT classes you mongoloid.

>>146042138
I quit today because of how PKing, GWing and interacting in Sieges works. You cant even forge alliances or simply fuck with guilds during Siege time. Which means that all I will ever be able to do in this game is play in a big guild and get Calpheon. Fighting clusterfuck after clusterfuck instead of running around with a small party fucking with the big guilds. This game makes this playstyle fucking impossible and I dont get why. Why the fuck would anyone ever consider this a wise choice...
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>>146042518
They need to adopt a Runescape type of pvp where you drop some of your gear or all of it if negative karma
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>>146042659
>or all of it if negative karma
You realize that there is literally no point in going red right now, right? Why would you add more shit that keeps people from going red when they already lack incentive to do so? What?
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>>146042767
The incentive to go red would be other people's gear
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>>146042829
So what you meant is that a red player has a chance for his VICTIMS to drop gear? Based on the way you phrased that sentence I thought you meant that being red should make it possible for the RED PLAYER to lose gear on top of all the other shit.
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>>146042957
Sorry I was basing this off of you knowing how Pking works in runescape.

So basically in pvp if you die you lose all but 3 of your most expensive or rare items. If you are skulled (red) from killing other players and you die you lose everything
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>>146042518
What next ey, the "Crit damage" class? The "Bloke who can throw an axe" class? The "build combo points of some description" class?

Lets make an archetype for every little thing in an MMO that some guy thought was cool once.
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What is even the point?

Why do we grind so much?

Why do we even try at all only to get fucked by RNG?

Why do we continue to struggle against Daum?
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>>146043339
To have "fun"
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>>146042659
In the original game you could lose equiped item when you get killed with negative karma but this was removed for NA/EU.
It got removed in Valencia 2 I think in KR But I don't know if it's only in the desert or everywhere.
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>>146043419

The "Black Desert is Fun" meme was the worst meme I ever fell for in 2016.

A highly regrettable experience.

Most fun I ever had was making people spend money on tears and even that hath been taken.

I give up, dead shit game.
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>>146039962
The classes are plenty unique. The reason you think everything feels the same is because PvE is so trivially easy that every class can just grab everything they can see and AoE it down in 5 seconds, and that's what they all do because that's the most efficient way to progress. The unique strengths of each class don't come into play in PvE because PvE in this game is a joke.

If you add a DoT class what do you think they would do in this kind of PvE? Group everything up and AoE it down in 5 seconds. Who is going to wait for damage over time to kill Sausans? The class would either be broken unusable in PvE and nobody would play it, or it would be given some form of efficient AoE and that's all anybody would use.

The class differences come into play in PvP because that's the only time they're actually challenged to use their unique class mechanics.
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>>146043649
But like dude what's the point of pvp in this game?
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>>146043768
fun
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>>146043339
its like your new to MMOs
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>>146044102
he probably wants a moba but play mmo instead.
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>>146043638
Good riddance, but hope you have fun in whatever next game you play. I hope it's also a single-player game.
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>>146043339
i like that everything you said can be applied to life

>What is even the point?
>Why do we work so much?
>Why do we even try at all if we only get fucked by life.
>Why do we continue to struggle against life?
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>>146043339
because we can
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>>146040289
Who?
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>>146043768
Fun

Get nodes for more cash

Fun

If you PvP outside Node/siege you are literally wasting your time.
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>>146045025
No, Who is there. Do they have qts in Who?
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Post more qts
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Should I play Wizard, Blader, or Berserker? I don't care about PVE, I just wanna pvp like a motherfucker.
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>>146049264
Wizard, you'll be a god at both pvp and pve.
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>>146049264
Wiztard, easy pvp and good with a horse

Zerker, youll be loved because you can contribute to CC and awakenings look kick ass

Blader really good at solo pvp
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i cant wait for sorcs to get buffed back again and be better than before thanks to idiots that thought it was a broken class
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>>146049039
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>>146049039
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How the hell do I get those '[Daily Quest] Helms & Mane" and "[Daily Quest] Wandering Rogue & Abandoned Iron Mine"? Black Spirit only offers me the old sepparate quests for each group of enemies.
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>>146052480
i think you have to be in mediah, i got mine near where I fought the enemies
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>>146052575
I'm in Altinova right now and this is what this black blob is offering me.
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>>146052575
>>146052852
Apparently I have to be level 56 or higher to get them.
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>>146053096
it's definitely not 56, I think it's around 52
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>>146053383
But that's what bddatabase says, they wouldn't lie to us, right?
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How's your progress?
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>>146055313
i don't waste time afking for 1 additional weight
would rather have 20mil
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>>146056707
Fair. So how's your progress?
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>>146056731
31,28,25
i made mistakes early on
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Anybody in KR know if the Koreans have even noticed that they broke Darkflame yet? Or are they too busy spinning around with awakening weapons and buying character power with their yens?
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>>146055313
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Dead thread
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>>146061720
i'm not allowed to bump anymore
was told it doesn't contribute
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On the positive side of amity changes, this is 1.5x more enjoyable.
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Post dem day 1 PvP stats
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>>146062327
>died 23 times
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Is the Orwen /vg/ guild ded? Is every guild ded?
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>>146062376
I know your in a PvE guild but go check guild stats real quick before posting anymore.
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How's the optimization of this game?
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>>146062616
25 times*
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>>146062587
p-please respond I want to get back in the game but dont want to play alone
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>>146063663
The Orwen guild might be dead.
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>>146063697
only /vg/ guild left is IC
Sardine used to be the EU guild but they are confirmed redditors
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>>146064468
>shitposting
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>>146064468
>shitposting
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>>146064946
>>146065224
mad sardweiniers
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>>146065657
>mad shitposter
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>>146055313
how do you reliable upgrade health?
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>>146065996
>he thinks trolls get mad

fuck off template bitch
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>>146065996
template bitch you have to be the most retarded person in this thread, I dread having to see you post your retarded garbage here everyday
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>>146066794
Who?
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>>146049402
not him but I sort of regret not making a zerker
I always play tank in mmos but decide on samurai man this time around
luckily I can transfer over armor/accessories but I need to autism grind him up to speed if I want to switch chars
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>>146067135
>Who?
are you new?
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>>146067498
>memes about some guy's avatar are literally the most important thing in BDO
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>>146067498
yes
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>>146063079
bump
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>>146068242
>memes are not important
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the most important skills on a horse are sprint and drift right? to make it go fast
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I kinda wish that the minimap didn't exist or that you could only open the map if you had a certain item and that unexplored areas would be obscured until you've explored them. Perhaps you could truly get lost in the woods exploring/gathering/whatnot.
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>>146070217
Valencia, the desert region that's coming really soon, has desert survival mechanics and no map/minimap
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>tfw normie guild is talking about how they get high all the time and using "XD" every other sentence
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>>146071008
xD
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>>146071008
xD
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Does pre ordering do anything?
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>>146071008
:3c
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so the idea of fail stacking is to buy some cheap shit armor, get a bunch of black stone armor and get like 30 fail stacks trying to +15 that shit armor?
Because spending 50k each accessory is painful
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>>146074787
>Because spending 50k each accessory is painful
That doestn even work past 3FS anymore. Chance is pretty high that the trashy green accessory will just go PRI. So yes, you get some cheap armor and FS on it. Might even wanna upgrade it to blue/yellow because that might have an impact also.

Getting 30FS might take a while though, depends on luck. I remember myself blowing hundreds of million just to get the fail stacks for another 2-3 DUOs.
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>>146074994
I'm just trying to get my armor and weapon up to +15 meng
this game is killing me
>need to spend 300k on taritas armor just to recover 10 durability
Speaking of which how do I even get those upgrade stones for like ultimate weapons? I know you can craft it but the only thing I've crafted in this game were thick fishing rods
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how do I buy +5 AP crystals
by the time I can press purchase button someone already has it
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b-butts?
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>>146075243
You get a building in a city to make them. Refinery was the name I think. Or you just try to snipe them off the AH. Thats impossible on my server though, but dont know how its on yours/

>>146075786
Its impossible until pre-order is in because +5AP crystals are the most lucrative items for botters. They bot the crystal, bot 80 RB seals and sell for almost 20m in profits. 5 days ago I had 650m in raw silver and was unable to buy a 5AP gem for 2 weeks straight. 2 days ago I finally just bought a fucking RB one, sniping it at 5am in the morning.

Just go to World Bosses though. The last patch added the 5AP crystal to World Boss loot tables. before it could only drop from guild bosses and Kzarka. Now its also possible to drop from Bheg (and Red Nose I think).
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are any of the officers from IC on
I sent a whisper to some one a while ago but never got a reply
please respond
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>>146062164
what were the amity changes
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>>146075925
B-BUTTS!
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why are they buffing zerker axe damage?
I thought cannon was for damage and axes for ruining others lives
they want axes to live forever, ruin others lives and then kill them too?
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>>146077493
A lot of people miss pms in game, cause they switch characters, are afk, or just never notice them.
If you have Discord, join discord.me/inner_circle and pm one of the officers there
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even if there were 3 guilds warring for same node no one claimed the ownership
just what were they doing
the node tax is only guildbux?
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>>146079702
thanks
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post even more qts
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Git comfy /bdog/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16E0ph09R64
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I quit the guild and game yesterday but already want to play again, probably would want to reroll though. One of the reason I quit though is the fact that Valencia comes out next week and I wont have much time until end of July so would fall behind.

Tough life, gotta say.
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>>146084153
Is there much reason to quit when this game plays by itself?
For last month I havent done anything but having my horses jog in circles and Im making money.
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>>146084623
if you want to play the game you have to play the game
cuck
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>>146084623
At the level I played on it kinda is. I mean, my gear is so good I could probably AFK for 2 months and would still be ahead if Valencia wasnt about to get released. But I lose all my interest in a game as soon as I stop being able to compete with the top 1% (and be part of it).

I dont even get why I want to play the game right now. I quit because of blatant issues that pissed me off more more than a month now. Guess I simply miss the grinding, feels like something is missing in my life right now. Will probably have to force myself to not play since there isnt a class I would actually be interested in playing without Awakenings.
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>>146083194
fapfic when
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Anybody know if the other tier 7 horses besides the purebreds have been released?
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>>146086808
tell me what this contributes to the thread?
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>>146086950
I enjoyed his post considerably more than I enjoyed yours.
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>>146086950
how about you stop being a jackass and post your own qt
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>>146087224
>>146087260
>>146064946
>>146065224
samefags
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>>146086950
Made me want to share too.
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>>146087430
I always like seeing people's screenshots.
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>>146087713
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>>146089836
>hiding your smile
good call
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>>146090146
thanks
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>>146090349
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What are the current Fragment rates for Discos? Should I just run them myself now considering the amount of time it costs to find people?
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>>146090349
I tried to get a similar screenshot, but my game ended up being really stretched. How did you get yours to work?
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How much accuracy do you usually want?
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>>146062327
>>146062376
>>146063235
>been gone awhile
>come back to thread to see if anyone talks about node wars
>only talk is this with 2 other people with literally downs and don't know what each stat means on the chart
This is literally why I don't play with 4ch anymore. I mean join up and split off with the good people is great but some are literally retards.
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>>146094151
They are carebears stop bullying
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>>146094151
I think it's IC still being salty no worries mate.
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>>146091682
I forgot..
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>reroll
>all I have to do is open Kzarka box and throw is on char
If theres anything good about this game its probably that.
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Does Valencia bring new weapons better than Liverto or will it still be the go-to weapon before Kzarka?
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>>146095561
Kzarka is BiS until forever. Intel has it that there isnt even a new main hand planned for the elf area. Its most likely accessories because those arent available from bosses yet.
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>>146093602
enough
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>>146093602
Test it. There is hidden character accuracy so everybody needs different amounts.
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>>146095814
That's nice and all but doesn't answer my question.
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>>146098106
There are no other weapons you mongoloid, Jesus Christ. Fucking degenerate cant even do something as simple as check BDOdatabase to check for other main hands. SPOON FEED ME PLEASE XDD
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>>146096437
Well I'm at +10
+5 from taritas and +5 from offhand and It still feels like I miss enough because my abilties occasionally don't do damage
what's a good way of testing it?
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>>146085741
Unfortunately, I think that anon just got all our hopes up for nothing
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>>146098807
Each +1 in your weapon and accuracy offhand grants +1 accuracy. The bonus is hidden but proven, you want at least 30 accuracy to hit things regularly
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>>146099042
Thanks for the tip man
Guess a black horn warrior bow is necessary
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>>146085053
Then start playing it like a SoL, do your life skills and whatever, explore and take screen shots.
Or you could make money and buy out and keep pre-ordering important items in marketplace just to delete them to piss server off.
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>>146090349
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Comfiest spot on the planet coming through.
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>join guild
>they link me to their discord
>join for the first time and see them linking a bunch of transphobic stuff in chat and saying really terrible things about trans people

o-okay ;_;
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>making a character
>want to reset a part
>accidentally click "reset all"
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>>146101540
You're not alone, friend. There really should be a confirmation window.
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>>146099659
Kill yourself. Taking screenshots, top fucking kek. If I want to screenshots I go outside and hike.
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>>146101535
You deserve it you fucking degenerate. Should hear our guild chat. People constantly say 'nigger' and 'kill the kikes'. Thats how top guilds talk (pretty funny that these people are still more sociable that you autists),
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>>146101484
That's not epheria
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Maid outfit when!? Kunoichi when?
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>>146103009
No, it isn't.
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>>146098717
You sound somewhat assblasted.
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What's harder to come by: Bheg gloves or Ogre ring?
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>>146103973
Bhegs by far.
You can grind Ogre Rings, but Bhegs will only come with time.
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>>146071008
Is this Sardine?
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>>146085769
Yeah some have.
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>>146102790
My point is, there are a lot of other shit that the game offers. If you really aren't inclined to do any of that life skill shit then, go get titles or level up your training at least, they raised the cap to 50.

Also don't flatter yourself, you were never able to compete with the top 1% nor were you ever part of them. There's no point in lying in an anonymouse mongolian flip book forum. Its okay to say that you quit the game because you kept getting destroyed and you never improved.
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>>146104724
Thanks mate. I suppose it's time to get back to training and breeding my horses.
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>>146099636

You can also wait for Valencia update and hope a +18 weapon will satisfy the accuracy requirments.
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>>146105170
Screenshot is from 2 weeks ago. By that time I was 58 for almost a week. So youre right, I was never part of the 1%, I was (and still am) pretty much part of the 0.1%

And before you say 'thats just level'. With level usually comes money. With money usually comes gear. I am sorry to burst your bubble but not everyone who browses this website is an incompetent slob.
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How come most of the Sardine members stopped posting pictures here? You rarely see ERP Valk and Template witch post anything nowadays.

Did the guild already die?
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>>146106905
We post with different characters but we don't avatarfag with them.
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how do I not make this game run like ass?
It used to run fine when it first came out now I have to turn the settings down to potato just to get it to run
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>>146107120
I want to see your characters!
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>>146108578
That would be avatarfagging now.
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>>146106905
Gee anon, I wonder why
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>>146108853
Not him but I think he's asking because he doesn't know.
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What node is Sardine planning to take?
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>>146109110
I'm fairly confident in saying he does.
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>>146105886
I'm having trouble getting it to +15, don't want to think about that stuff
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>>146109539
I don't know.
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>>146109784
Then I can't help you.
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Is this game great? Obviously you like it since you're here, but I want to know if I should spend money. what would you rate it?
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>>146111027
You can pretty easily get a 7-day trial key and see for yourself
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>>146111168
I'll look for one, thanks
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>>146013982
>play on piece of shit gaming laptop i got 3 years ago
>having fun even though i only get 30 fps on low
>laptop unplugs and shuts off because i run out of battery in calpheon
>can't log into my character because it can't handle loading up calpheon
Whelp, guess it's time to start regearing
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>>146106419
Rekt him.
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>>146112329
Keep trying and it should load up eventually.
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>>146111027
This game is beautiful. The grind is eternal. It is both comfy and tedious. RNG is a real cunt.

It's a lot like real life.
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>>146020643
hes fucking lying to you bro, pvp is very unenjoyable unless you put in autistic amounts of hours into grinding, everyone one shots you and you cant do jack shit to anyone.
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>level 9 node
>s knowledge on everything, even the little fuckers
>8 luck just in case

Jesus fucking christ I hate korea. 8 hours today. 8 fucking hours in treant forest looking for a fucking belt. Nothing. Jack fucking shit all. Surprised? Not at all. I've been doing this shit for the last week and a half and haven't gotten a belt yet.

Fuck everything.
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>>146120058
Do the Tree world boss, farming shitty Treants should only be out of desperation.
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Did any of you fuck niggas get a node yet?
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>>146120682
not online when it usually spawns, and I don't have a "worldboss" set of armor without hideously expensive crystals in it anyway
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>>146120882
Git gud
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>>146121050
I guess they did just nerf the fuck out of worldbosses w/r to attack patterns and desync has been getting better, and I gained almost 1k total hp from the last patch

as a sorc I might actually durvive a stray hit now, I should see if the tree boss is worth doing

how about the mutant trees that are still purple to me at 55?
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Help, all I've done since level 15 is fishing. I'm level 30 now and all my quests are still level 15. Everyone in the thread just shits on PvP and says grinding is a waste of time so I have no motivation to even level anyway. All I've done is amass money that I'll never use, I'm up to 20 million now, but I don't even know what the hell I should spend it on if I'm not PvPing or grinding.
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>>146121760
just keep saving if anything you can buy better fishing rods? or a boat?
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>>146121760
blow it all on getting a +4 fishing outfit
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>>146122617
>>146122854
I'll just keep saving, then one day I'll post with like 70billion or something.
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>tfw every time I consider doing something other than grinding like I think of the potential grind I'll be missing out on
this korean mmo has got me by the soul
guess I'll just grind for money instead of trying out horse breeding
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>>146120058
I know people who farmed Belts for 50+ hours and didnt get one. By now I would say that the tree belt drop rate is as low the one for Ogre Rings. Wouldnt surprised at all to be honest, because Tree Belt is still somewhat BiS even with Valencia. Basilisk Belt might give you more AP, but the amount is pretty damn irrelevant. 3AP vs 3ACC? Probably take the ACC, just in case..
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So how is NA holding up? The most recent changes (PK change, Awakenings being delayed further) basically killed EU. Wouldnt surprise me if Jordine lost 50% of its population.
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>>146121760
>massive amount of money
>20 mil
????
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>>146124184
it is for a level 30 bruh, let him stay happy for a while longer
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I need some help here. I am leveling an alt right now and know what offhand to use? What does a Tamer run with Kzarka and Bheg? Needle or Krea? Because I sure as hell dont need the ACC.
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>>146121760
>All I've done is amass money that I'll never use, I'm up to 20 million now,
When I leveled from 57 to 58 I made ~70m a day at Pirates. Should tell you how much of a waste of time grinding is.
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>>146124184
>>146124521
Where did I say massive amount? I just said I've been amassing money with no purpose. Massive isn't the same as amassing, esl-tachi.
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>>146120882
I'D pick up some Agerian, throw some shitty gems in it and just go hard on the boss if you ever get a chance. People seem to get them from the boss way more often than I see people get them just farming. But do what you can I guess, just don't give up.
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Trent is a pretty nice place.
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>>146013982
>day 2 of node wars
>baka&ITC couldn't get a node either day even though they tried.
>IC still saying they are waiting for "their day"
>dead guild being dead
So is it pretty sad that no one here can cap a node? lol, are they just waiting for the siege guilds to leave or something? 27m a day is pretty dam nice for having a node already and the bonus free 30m.
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>want to play this game because combat looks fun
>and I'm fantastic at creating waifus from over 700hrs on modded skyrim
>don't want to grind my life away

why does god like to watch humans suffer anons?
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>>146132149
waifus are worth suffering for, friend
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>>146132149
>>and I'm fantastic at creating waifus from over 700hrs on modded skyrim
Cute.
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>>146132710
>tfw I downloaded the character creator before the beta released in the U.S. and made the perfect waifu
>forgot to move over the screenshots when I switched harddrives
I miss her ;-;

m-maybe I can make her again if I buy the game

>>146132906
th-thanks
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>>146130823
Its kinda sad, but Trent was the high point of this game. The entire region is just riduculously good. MoS, WE, Ogres, Cat Fish, Shrine, Treants, everything was basically 2 minutes walking from one zone to the other.

The conflict, the PVP, the instant GvGs over shit as simple as a cave spot. Everything about the area is just perfect. Back then I had issues with the game but in hindsight I really appreciate the experience. Jesus Christ was it was to run around as a bush and just duke it out with people on a constant basis. That first month around Trent gave me more joy than any other MMO has given me in about a decade.
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>>146134127
I think its one of the reason I cant quit the game right now. I am still really nostalgic about the first month. The game was so much better before they added Mediah.
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>>146134127
Sadly I had no experience with it like that. Still, I really enjoy the area with all the nearby grind spots and the fear that I'll get my ass handed to me at any point. It's really neat for exploration too with the sentry post, forest and river.
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>>146135705
You really missed out if you are into PVP. The constant threat of people PKing you and you losing EXP as a result of it. Killing one guy could result in 80 suddenly standing in front of Trent. preparing of a guild war in the hills. Going red was completely ridiculous because you were attacked left and right and it was so much goddamn fun. It was what the game was supposed to be but one can really see that they changed their design philosophy with Media and Valencia.

In Calpheon they were forcing player conflict. In Mediah nothing of value even drops and the only conflict you might ever have are Sausan camps. Its really sad what [whoever is responsible for it] did to this gmae.
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>>146136887
It's mostly just value and player compression into certain spots.


Trent area has many different high value spots/drops (MoS, witch, ogre ring) in a small area, so players are forced into conflict. Mediah only has sausans since it's the place with value (xp)
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>>146137052
I know, thats why I talked about design philosophy. If they had wanted for people to at constant conflict then they would have given people a reason to do the same in Media and Valencia. But both areas are designed completely differently.
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>>146137280
I think part of it is that the game is super unfinished too.


Once people get geared they have no reason to grind for mos/witch/ogre ring.


So they grind for xp.


Hopefully va lencia will fix stuff by having more spots for geared players to contest and stuff.
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>>146013982
people still play this?
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What's a good place for solo exp at level 53? Been doing elric shrine since the money is good there
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>>146137424
Nothing will fix that because they destroyed the PVP. The vast, vast majority of competitive PVPers left since they removed the EXP penalty on dying to PK. There will be more areas to farm, but there wont be any conflict. Because all the game is left with is the fodder that couldnt accomplish anything, lacks dedication and is quite frankly not the group of people that made the game fun.

Of the level 58 I have close contact to (including myself) I have seen about 70% quit. Valencia will be nice to look at, but holy shit will it be empty.
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>>146137694
>mmos are srs bsns
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>>146137821
Nice meme. Nothing in my post even implies that it is. There still need to be certain things to make a game fun. And thats the problem: they removed almost all of them.
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>>146137947
>Because all the game is left with is the fodder that couldnt accomplish anything, lacks dedication
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>>146137694
>lacks dedication
>stays
>hardcore dedicated player
>leaves
Which is which again?
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>>146137694
The thing is you can't just cater the game to a small subset of the playerbase.


It was fucking gay to lose XP when I'm out on my own farming a non-contested mob or area and some cunt comes and kills me because he's geared.

I can't do anything about it at all.

It's only "fun" for the well geared people.
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>>146138093
Literally nothing to do with 'srs bsns'. It simply is a fact that most players need people who are ahead of them to be motivated to improve. If no one has better gear than X than the vast majority would just settle for X.

People being dedicated, having a higher level, more money, better gear also serves as motivation for other players to play more and catch up to them. Its essential, especially in MMOs.

>>146138338
Dedication and 'putting up with a ruined game' have nothing to do with one another. You can only be dedicated if you have a goal. After they gutted most of the OW interaction there hardly even is one now.

Dedicated players will be dedicated in other games. BDO simply isnt worth their/our time. I simply log it to make money being AFK, in hope that Daum will one day get their shit together.

>>146138346
>It's only "fun" for the well geared people
In encourages player interaction because that one guy wont just attack a single person. He usually attacks everybody. So you could just coordinate 4-5 people to PK him together. But to most people that was too much effort. Cant have that, player interaction. People are used to pressing QUEUE ME FOR RAID.

The mechanic also brought some form of thrill to grinding. Now its just mindblowingly boring because you can lost anything. You dont even pay attention to the minimap anymore because if you get killed why even bother to care?
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>>146138748
>In encourages player interaction because that one guy wont just attack a single person. He usually attacks everybody. So you could just coordinate 4-5 people to PK him together.


Depending on how geared they are/what class it doesn't matter.
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>>146139034
Especially with the implementation of Mediah it became borderline impossible to actually 1v5 people. If people are completely fucking retarded you will never be able to do it. No matter you gear. They have 1 Wizard youre basically done. +15 is alos so easy to obtain that everybody has 160+ DP.

People who struggle while being in an advantageous position should try to improve, not whine about how something isnt fair in their opinion.
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Is this game dead/dying yet?
Surely all the fotm people have already moved on to overwatch or some shit
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>People here acting like they enjoy pvp
>none of the guilds that post here have a node except 1 which is a normie guild.
>people had 2 years of Korea to b listen to and still get upset by the changes that were obviously happening for us.
Wew buddies calm down lol. PvP outside nodes/sieges were never the point.
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Man it's nice being a casual in the current state of the game.
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>>146139495
why?
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>>146139495
Ikr been back 3 days and have pic related on a fresh server already
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>>146139650
Because there are lots of catch up patches right now, most of the hardcore players quit and PK/GW got reworked. Without all these autists we can finally enjoy the game the way it was meant to be enjoyed.
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>>146139763
dead?
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trying to buy liverto is so shit
there's not even one posted each day and they get bought in 1/4 of a second
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>>146140120
So what. We just move on to the next game. Besides, there have never been any players interested in PVP anyway. They are a vocal minority. 99% of the people play this game for the quests, ERP and various other activities.
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>>146013982
where do i go to get blackstones after i do my daily and weekly?
like what comes after the daily and weekly? just go grind skele's for relic shards?
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>>146013982
got some revisions for inner_circle in pastebin
remove the add naaki on steam part, add ghasty to people to whisper
and add discord.me/inner_circle somewhere

thanks
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>>146142464
Can you format that into something I can just copy and paste there?
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>>146139470
you do know hownode wars work right?
some of the nodes people want havent had the chance to be fought for yet. for example for of inner circles planned nodes dont occur til later in the week, this is true for a lot of guilds as well
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>>146142635
Inner_Circle: Put discord.me/inner_circle into web browser for an invite or whisper ablu, ghasty, Deadbeat, Catzura, or Chimpy.
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>>146142909
Cheers mate, I gotcha.
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Going for second node tomorrow, just for fun. Go guild!
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Is S rank for Kzarka better for the loot benefit or A/A+ for the extra damage that would raise your battle contribution due to the increased damage?
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>>146146340
A higher rank gives all the benefits of the lower ranks too.
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If I'm bored to tears of doing quests in MMOs, is it viable to just grind without doing any? The combat in this game is really fun, but quests of "kill X mobs, get X items, and talk to X" just make me want to die.

Also, when do I need to start upgrading my gear? I got the grunil set and yuria weapon, but I haven't upgraded them yet or anything.
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>>146147146
You can just do combat. Upgrade your gear when you go grind in Calpheon at the latest.
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>>146147146
>is it viable to just grind without doing any?
Yes but you have to do some black spirit questa to get your dailies at level 50. Daily quests give Blackstone so they're not mandatory but very useful
I stopped doing quests at level 30
Just upgrade whenever you get stones, never waste money buying them. You get showered in black stones after 50.
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>>146013982
why the fuck cant i que water gathering.
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>>146147319
>>146147465
Sick, I guess I'll just look up the quests that gave bag space and kill shit all day.
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>>146147871
Is that a thing?
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>>146145087
Good luck, guys.
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>>146147939
it's not
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>>146147939
>>146148126
>take bottle
>go into water
>gather water
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>>146106419
I don't believe you've been outside and hiked once in your life.
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>>146111027
>Obviously you like it since you're here
Is this your first general?
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>>146137694
>The vast, vast majority of competitive PVPers left since they removed the EXP penalty on dying to PK
>Killing randoms to clear out your grind spot so you can farm more pirates = Competitive PvP
kys
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>>146146645
o shit, thanks senpai
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>>146148027
Thank you!
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Optimization tips or tricks?
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>>146150172
What's your card
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>>146150275
GTX 760 Game runs fine for the most part on slightly high settings but when things get serious it just shits the bed.
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>>146149341
Hes just making this shit up. No one actually knows what the knowledge ranks do, people are just speculating. Its not even sure that S gives more loot. Its being speculated that its actually A+ that does while S gives more experience.
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>>146150872
I'm not making anything up, I'm relaying what's generally accepted.
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>grinding while bsing on voice chat
I can't stand grinding but this is super comfy. Can't understand why some people don't voice.
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>>146151553
I don't have anyone to voice with and english isn't my first language, so I have a shitty accent.
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>>146151749
Join a guild or hit up some unrelated friend of yours, currently just chatting with an old online friend about nothing in particular. English ain't my first language either nor is it his.
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>>146151948
I don't have any friends.
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>>146152049
I can be your friend bro. Server?
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>>146150382
Should be playing on medium desu
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>>146148345
Still cannot be queued.
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>>146013982
anyone on edan want to trade the referal scrolls 1-5?
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>>146153527
Oh fuck, are those useful for something? I've just been deleting them because I don't have any friends and I can't put them in storage.
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>>146153740
when you send them to someone they get a few box depending on the level of the letter and they can roll for potions or rare accessories
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>>146153863
Oh okay, when I get another one I'll just send it to someone from here.
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>>146142696
I'll believe it when I see it, IC has like 46 members? They won't even get pass siege defenses with that amount lmfao.
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Is this game dying already?
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>>146013982
So I've been reading the wiki about some of the crafting type shit and it seems odd. Would this game be friendly to a more non-combat RP type style of play consisting of mostly crafting? Or would this end up disappointing me like Archeage did?
My main gripe with Archage was that horrid labor point system
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>>146155856
You're in luck, we just received a patch where crafting stopped costing energy, which is basically labor points. Join up.
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>>146155856
Don't listen to this guy >>146155885
The crafting in this game is piss poor and the recent update removed the energy cost on only 1 life skill.
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>>146151749
>>146152117
>someone laments they have no friends
>someone else extends an invitation to be friends
>someone #1 ignores it
4chan everyone
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Why are people OKAY with these disgusting gear differences?
1-shotting somebody because of 1 enchant or 1 level difference?
Any other MMO would be skinned alive if that was introduced, why is it okay here?
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>>146156363
The level difference brings like the difference of 20 enchants lol
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>>146156363
Get to grinding fagboy. Effort == skill.
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>>146156225
Oh well...
The search for my Wurm replacement goes on.
Wurm would be the perfect sandbox MMO in my eyes if the combat wasn't ass and people weren't gimped so bad without paying
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>>146156467
When is it enough? lvl60?
>>146156472
grinding mobs all day and night with 1 skill because your a neet is equal to pvp skill. Yah, okay. Are you one of those kids that always sucked in pvp so you need the power difference to finally feel good about yourself?
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>>146156670
because finally one game said "lol fuck you noob git gud" and stuck with it
and people are enjoying it.
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>>146156792
If that was the case then gear and level differences wouldn't matter as much as skill. It's the complete opposite famalam
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So what exactly does Valencia offer for those that aren't +15 in all equipment and shit like that. Don't really care for grinding 30 hours to get from 55-56 when it hits.
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>>146157043
>lol fuck you noob git gud
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>>146157054
you're 55 and don't have +15 gear? the game throws 50 mil at you for leveling what the fuck.
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>>146157151
Nigga decorating a house is expensive as fack yo.
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>>146157151
>>146157186
>be 55
>highest gear is at +13 while rest is around +11
>do 1 or 2 scroll runs with guildies
>have enough black stones and luck to bump it all up to at least +14
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>>146157286
>level 50
>no one wants to do scrolls with me because my gear is all +10 except for weapon (+15)
>blackstone income has ceased since 50
>grinding catfish to meet the 300 ap/dp requirement for vg guild
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>>146158573
>300 ap/dp requiremen
Jesus christ what guild are you even in
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>>146152304
I go down to medium for world bosses/ PvP, but sometimes it still just drops to 5-10 fps for a couple seconds, then jumps back up to normal.
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>>146158821
>>146158573
>thinking 300 is high
>needing 300 combined to join a dead vg guild
With those stats just join a guild with 110 points for all combat skills. I wouldn't advice to join a vg guild at all at this point.
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>>146161597
wrong image, also getting 5 more dp in a bit because making another ultimate stone.
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>>146161829
>300 is nothing
>check out my 300
Nice.
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>>146161597
IC doesnt have any requirements, you just might not have any fun since youre so undergeared
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>>146161829
you really need to get gear, holy shit
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>>146162074
Literally if you have 300+ combined join top 20 guild with 110 points like I said. anything less then 90 points for guild skills is quite fucking sad at this point.
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>>146162181
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>>146162421
where you getting this from?
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>>146162506
discord.
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>>146162553
>"We don't have autistic requirements for time or gear, all we ask is that you stay active and contribute when it is time to pull your weight in a guild war. We do PvP daily, along with guild missions and out-of-game fun. We've no set time for scroll groups and guild bosses, just pay attention or ask in chat."

I don't see a gear requirement
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I just bought this game
Did I fuck up?
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>>146162604
Well the person direct messaging me lied to me then and i wont be joining
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>>146162623
Yes
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>>146162623
Exp has changed and help new players a bunch, you can get to lvl 50 in about 1-5 days depending on how autistic you go
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>>146162421
>IC has sub 50 players
>defensive seige gear will wipe any attack party that doesn't have 30+
>expect at least 10 people never show up to node wars because they quit long ago.
>thinking node wars will be fun with ~30 people
>with 36 people you would have to put 10 to 15 on defense. Leaving 16 to 21 to attack.
>with 50 people with 140+ ap and not being stopped it took them ~10 mins to kill tower
>IC wouldn't even have enough people to kill the 3+ other towers in tier 1.
My sides, I want IC to record their attempt without voice comms. I want to see how badly they fail.
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>>146162672
cool we don't want fags whose feelings get hurt
might I suggest a reddit guild or perhaps neogaf
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>>146162798
relax bl
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>>146162846
>feelings hurt
uh no, because your guild is dead and you're turning away good players with made up requirements.
Enjoy your secret club.
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>>146162920
What does bl stand for? I don't understand young people lingo anymore.
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>>146162967
>good player
I highly doubt it
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>>146163186
>implying im not gonna join anyway
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>>146163186
>sub 50 players
>being picky
>level 1 player can sit on siege defense and be as efficient as anyone else.
Pretty moronic guild desu.
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>>146163186
>Autistic australians the guild having requirements
Oh wow. haha
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>>146148874
I go on d2g and most people are at least passionate"". For mmos I thought there would be a bit more common enjoyment and less anger. I haven't played one since terra rising came out.
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>>146111027
>Obviously you like it since you're here
I like your attitude, bro, and I wish it were so. I mean, it makes sense, right? But no, we're on 4chan and we have a bunch of fuckers who hang around the game despite hating it and ruin everyone's fun.
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>>146013982
Are relic shards worth keeping at their current price? or should i just sell them
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>>146165868
Yes
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>>146166142
What good comes out of them? if it's like a normal scroll it would be a loss of profit.
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>>146166291
Memory fragments
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Should I kill Al Rhundi or not?
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>>146167628
Traitors deserve only death
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>>146167628
do you want some shitter who goes mad with power and sacrifices himself to dark energy to over throw a peaceful kingdom AND STILL MANAGES TO LOSE to live?
or do you want the noblest of all nobles to commend you for striking down scum like he deserves to be.
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>>146167680
>>146167771
Okay, thanks, killing him it is
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>>146167771
>noblest of all nobles
Who?
Because if you're talking about Jordine you should go back to sucking his dick along with all the Heidelian noblewomen.
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>>146168126
no, heratio or what ever the fuck Righteous mohawk soldier of much disrespect was.
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>>146101535
Join IC, Cat's a tranny and eppu
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>>146168576
Good.
Jordine's a corrupt gaylord.
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So, you wanna tell me this game is p2p AND has microtransactions?
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>>146169864
Yep.
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>>146169864
To be fair the developers planned for it to be dead upon release.
They had nothing to lose, and they gained significantly more from it thanks to good ol' western audience
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>>146167771
Actually, he was betrayed, that's why he used dark energy
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>>146169864
p2p p2w and heavily rng dependant
there's also no player trading, no custom market prices, very little end game content, and a loot system that only makes the rich richer
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>>146170257
he already had the dark energy inside of him before he drank the poison you dingus.
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>>146153527
I think I've got a few but not at computer right now , ign?
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>>146170793
And he didn't use it badly until then
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how hard is it to train low % horse skills?
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You guys noticed the fish changing areas recently? I keep getting moray from Luivano Island while I'm sure I got them from Iliya before the last patch.
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>>146174101
It's in the patch notes anon
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guys is there any way I can download the character creator for free, I heard it was available some time ago
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>>146174956
It's gone.
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>>146175106
so there is no way to get it for free eh
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>>146175228
No way.
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i miss when people posted their characters doing this
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>>146175293
Doing what? Can't see shit.
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>>146178817
Coo'.
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>>146169864
Its b2p you retared. P2P means that it has a sub, which is doesnt. How do you figure a company finances the constant updates? With your measly 30 bucks for the box game?
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>tfw guild posting even more transphobic stuff in discord
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>>146184427
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>>146184427
shoulda joined ic
also post pics of yourself
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>farming elrics
>this happens
it took them like 20+ minutes to do their guild quest and I still got 2-3 full camps in between deaths
they actually helped me by making it so i didn't need to use hp potions AND they scared everyone else off
thanks, Kyoukai
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>>146185808
Hey, at least he was nice about it.
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>>146185808
That's just plain fucking rude.

Good job anon.
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>>146185808
kyoukai is such a shit guild
love killing their leader
calls the whole zerg every time and then I get to bully packs of them
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>>146186678
Yeah seems like it
I just started playing a week ago so my ap/dp is still only a bit above 200 unfortunately
funnily enough even though they outnumbered me 10 to 1 they still did some gay ass pvp toggle where they turned on pvp mode mid skill
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>>146186165
Why're you calling him anon when his name is right there?
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>>146187439
Because he's an anonymous poster on an anonymous imageboard and it says anonymous in the name field.

I'll make an exception for you, autismo.
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>>146188267
(You)
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So what are the least played classes in this game?
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>>146186897
>gay ass pvp toggle where they turned on pvp mode mid skill

that really gets me, when people are so passive aggressive they wait until you're killing mobs then try to sneak up behind you and toggle their pvp on like you won't see
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>>146188885
giant
male wizard
ninja
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>>146188357
I wasn't fishing for replies but thanks nonetheless, autismo.
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>>146189381
(You)
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>>146189316
>giant
>ninja
>least played on KR
I think you might be fucking retarded.
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>>146189673
this isnt korean forum
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>>146189756
Then youre even more retarded because Giant is no way in hell one of the least played on EU/NA either. Maybe after the first month, but all thjey did since then is buff them.
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>>146189582
(You)
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>>146189853
youre just confused
giant is large so its easy to notice unlike something small and invisible such as ninjas
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>>146188885
Tamer and Wizard, since last patch its probably also Warrior and Sorc :^)
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>>146188885
tamer
players are quitting fast
+16-20 gear is supposed to ruin the class until awakening which won't hit for 2-3 months

So a lot of people are hopping ship so they're not useless during that time.
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>>146191065
Thats not the actual reason. 9/10 Tamer only rolled the class to prepare for Ninja. Especially in hardcore guilds this becomes blatantly obvious. Ask any of them, chances are good that they only rolled Tamer to farm Ninja gear. The current changes to Heilang make him borderline invulnerable, which would solve almost all the 16+ problems.

Another reason people dont play the class is because its by far the worst deisgned in the entire game. The link to the 'tamed beast; is almost non existent.
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>>146191714
why the fuck are people preparing for ninja?
the class is such shit that we are getting a delay on it and PA is completely reworking it.

If I had a big guild i'd turn those useless fucks down
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>>146180934
>How do you figure a company finances the constant updates?
By making only 1/3 of what other games have in the first place
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>>146191850
being shit didnt prevent every other player from starting as warrior
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>>146191850
They have been preparing for Ninja since DAY ONE becaues they expected it to come out with Blader. No one could have expected a 5 months delay. They want to play Ninja because they like the class, so whats to criticize? If they are useless they will get kicked, we basically did that with Bladers as well. People who rerolled to them had the choice: dont or make room for useful classes. Pretty funny in hindsight because it still took them more months to actually bring out Node Wars/Sieges.

Awakenings and 'future content' are the reason the vast majority of people even picked their respective classes. Almost all Warriors I know only picked that class because of the greatsword and giants because of the cannon. Half the Sorcs picked it because of the Scythe. It doesnt matter whats good or bad (in terms of balancing). I could get myself to play Ranger either, no matter how brokenly overpowered it used to be.
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>tfw you +15 a kzarka for your alt and already get bored by the time youre 55
Tamer really is fucking boring...
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why was sorc nerfed?
its not like they ever were as bad as rangers in terms of everything
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>>146192556
I really want to start grinding again, but I can't be bothered to do it on my current character because I want to main a kunoichi. It's so retarded that they've not yet released the class.
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>>146192839
because more people complained
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I just cant go play other classes than zerker
its so easy
so simple
dick in one hand
mouse in second
after all these buffs and monster nerfs I dont even need to pay attention to hp bar while grinding
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>>146192907
At least you can blame Daum. I only have myself to blame. Get my Sorc to 58, was always leveling Tamer a bit on the side, decide to switch mains, farm as Tamer, way more efficient and fast, yet for some reason I dont enjoy myself even remotely as much. Should have seen this coming.

>>146192839
The class got gutted hard.
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>>146193338
Right? I had a shit ton of fun grinding Pirate Island because Jack could almost one shot me at night even though having 2300 HP and 177DP. No you can just AFK farm every single zone. I dont get how anyone can enjoy that.
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>start this game up for the first time
>mfw for the past 3 hours
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>>146194113
The game is really bad at presenting the story, you'll start getting it like 3 weeks in.
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Just found the CTRL + U shortcut for removing HUD.
I'm wondering if there is a way to keep your HP/MP visible in this mode? It would make grinding looks so nice.

I would want to write a mod to do this, but I'm reading that the cheat detection software is really strict.
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>>146194964
No, the cheat detection software doesn't detect shit, mod away. It only flags innocuous programs like google chrome or something, and those will land you a perm ban with no appeal.
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when will daum add gachapons/rng boxes
how can there be kr mmo without that shit?
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I wish I could play this game for the first time again.
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>>146197461
Why? You'd just be behind.
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>>146197461
Same the beginning was so full of wonder and promise
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>>146191850
>>146192351
>thinking Tamer/Plum/Blader are shit for nodes/sieges
wew lads I guess you are in a bottom tier guild if you don't know what they are super useful for. You don't need 20+ of them maybe 2 tamers and ~8 plum/blade is a good amount at max. fewer the better but they are super op scouts and Flankers.
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>>146197461
I wish I could relive the first month of the game again. The time at Calpheon and Trent was ridiculously fun.
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>>146197989
I've always been behind and I'm always going to be behind. I don't play the game to be competitive.
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>>146198078
What the hell are you even on about? Nowhere did I say that Tamers are useless in Node Wars. And if you unironically think that Bladers were useful when they game out youre fucking retarded. May I remind you that the class was basically running around with 0DP for the first 3-4 weeks?
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>>146198097
>>146197461
I wouldn't want to repeat first month, lack of content and meaningful PvP was a waste of time. and before you say "Muh GvG for PvP" you literally gain nothing but maybe a grind spot and the other guild just switch servers in 20 seconds. and don't even say muh xp loss because in month 1 you could bind Escape to never lose xp for once in 30 mins.
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>>146198453
Can't speak for the other guy but PvP meant nothing to me when I first started. Learning how the game worked with all of the life skills, nodes, workers and general exploration is what I miss.
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>>146198418
>useless the first few weeks so that's why we would kick them :^)
like I said pretty much bottom tier guild.
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Post them.
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>>146199602
still have 70k mats to process since the update.
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>>146198698
They were useless for the first 3-4 weeks so yes, why they fuck wouldnt we kick them? Tamers do as good of a job as Bladers but are more versatile. Bladers werent shit for a day, they were shit for an entire month. Why would you lock guild member slots for a useless class (that was not guaranteed to receive a fix) if you have plenty of exceptionally geared people apply to your guild?

Oh right, because youre the one playing a mid tier guild who doesnt give a shit about the competitive aspect. Spoiler Alert: If you want to remain competitive you have to make sacrifice. But as I said, that didnt even matter because it still took them almost 3 more months to finally bring Node Wars so by the time Blader was fixed we actually recruited some.
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>>146199798
Haven't bothered with processing since the patch.
If had known about energy cost removal beforehand, I would have gone for something different.
Only got myself to blame, I guess.
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>>146200026
Same lol, but I still got other more useful things so I'm not worried.
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I'm a level 50 tamer, and spent all my time grinding/questing/upgrading items.

I haven't done anything with professions yet but I know I should get started, are they all still good choices?
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>>146199602
everything feels so slow after they took down the exp event
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Didn't play any mmo's or mmorpg's for years.
Should i look into BDO?
What makes it good?
Has it interesting features?

I don't play autist vs autist. I'm only interested in a good rpg that mustn't hide from the Witcher.
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>searching 15 minutes for a key
>download the game
>spend some time to make a baby faced girl with a huge ass
>fap furiously
>play for 5 minutes
>close game

Am I off to a good start, /bdog/?
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>>146206331
your character is ugly and you're a retard
>>
post qts
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I quit playing a week after launch bc its a bad game but i miss all the people in IC T_T
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>>146207593
No.
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>>146206331
looks like pic related if she got danger hair
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>>146207376
>>146208737

thanks anons <3
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>>146207593
aight
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>>146209062
wait a minute, you're just fucking pigposter. fuck off and die
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>>146207593
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>>146211403
I like her.
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>>146211403
lose chestweight malinda megamelons
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>>146210813
what's a pigposter?
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>>146209403
this is a great qt
>>146211403
kinda looks like an immigrant
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>>146209403
>hulk horse
I just bought one of those by accident
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>>146207593
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>>146212658
>Hides server
>Doesn't hide name
Why?
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>>146212819
It's a secret.
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so are the servers for different locations like east or west coast?
Any way to swap character to different server?
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>>146185808
to be fair, he warned you.
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>>146214541
EU and NA
Not yet
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How much of the quest line do I need to follow if I make a new character before I can just go grind mobs?
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>>146215323
Black spirit quests
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>>146215418
I mean I still have a ton of unfinished black spirit quests on my main and I get dailies plus everything just fine
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>>146215539
Black spirit main quests
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>>146013982
>some guy starts farming on top of me
>ok
>move spots
>starts farming on top of me again
>google how to turn on pvp
>turn it on
>murder him twice
>he leaves
Why do you guys not like pvp in this game? that experience i had was pretty good except for the potion spam i went against.
Also what does losing karma do to me?
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>>146218675
'Cause that's not every situation.
>>
this 300 ap/dp requirment for top guilds seems a bit silly
Like I know they want you to have pri/duo accessories but I can reach it a lot easier with sub optimal choices like a krea horn bow
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>>146219660
i think its mostly just to show you invested enough time that youll play a while
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>>146220014
That's sunk cost fallacy, they could still quit at any moment.
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>>146218675
>Why do you guys not like pvp in this game?
Because most people are too incompetent to lose and they simply wanna live in a candy cotton land. The first month around Trent must have been hell for them.
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>>146220141
but theyre much more useful, and less likley to quit than the guys with +5's
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>>146220434
If I +15 all my gear I still won't have 300 ap/dp
this is with 2 witches earrings, 2 red coral rings, ancient guardian seal and ancient weapon core belt
but if I use a krea horn bow (lose 20 accuracy) I get over 300 ap/dp
see what I mean?
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>>146218675
desu thats what brought me to the game
I always loved to do that in Age of Wushu
along with bullying the Vietnamese farmers
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>>146220765
yeah i know what you meant and i see your point.
But i think they're just looking for people dedicated to trying to be the best, they get people who put enough time into the game to get the 300 requirement no matter how.
They can weed out the trash later when they see the items they actually have and when they under perform.
i have literally 2 ruby earings to pump my numbers up, they don't make sense at all but they'll get me in the door.
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>>146221295
post more
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>>146222741
Happy?
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>>146223423
extrmely
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Post grinding playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lp1QxEaWM4
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>tfw fell for the "Black desert is a hardcore pvp game" meme

Thanks daum
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>>146224197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLelk26BlEM
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>>146218675

Because there is no point to it anymore, there's no loss or danger to dying to players

You lose nothing for dying and can't force people to stop taking your mobs so people will just respawn and come back until you blow all your karma

Most people hated it because they were terrible at the game and felt entitled to every grind spot when they can't defend themselves so they whined until it got changed to carebear mode.
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>>146224197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIIAffYstQ
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>>146223664
Glad I could help.

>>146224197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEpmpt4wYok
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>>146224197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BtUVKYxfI8
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Where are my flat chested cuties at? Fatties need not apply.
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>>146226265
s a r d i n e
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>>146192839
It wasn't nerfed, it was unintentionally broken. The crit removal in the patch notes isn't the problem.
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>>146226386
But I heard one of sardine's guild rules was to have max breasts on all your classes.
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>>146226514
but what if I'm a boy?
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>>146226395
>unintentionally
This shit has been in the RU version since the end of May. Its not unintentional.
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>>146226514
That's Divium furor
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>>146226632
No boys. Only men.
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Wake up, /bdog/.
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>>146228070
Ohayo.
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>>146228118
你好
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>>146229031
huomenta
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>>146229691
Пpивeтcтвyю
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AHHHHHH
I don't care if this game is shit the combat looks FUN!

I'M GONNA BUY THIS GAME AND NOONE CAN STOP ME

do I buy the travelers or explorer package
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>>146230905
travelers
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>>146230905
Explorer, the horse flute is the most convenient item in the game
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>>146230981
>>146230994
WHICH IS IT ANONS

how much is a horse flute in the cash shop if there is one
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>>146231313
15€, 12€ right now because of the sale.
You also got a 10€ pet
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>>146231547
ah, thanks
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Shits about to pop off in Kusha on cal e2
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>be 161 AP Sorc, level 58
>never get a Tree Belt even though always having perma aggro and getting 7 seals (highest bracket)
>reroll to Tamer
>put gear on Tamer, enhance Kzarka for it
>firtst Tree, first belt
There is probably some hidden ANTI SORC lock in this game.
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>>146233740
Nice shit story friend.
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>>146233740
daum just likes little girls
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>>146233740
>sorc
>doesn't get loot
???
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>>146233948
Its true though.

>>146237002
Nice reading comprehension skills.

>>146235851
Then why do Rangers get so many boss armor pieces? They arent little girls.
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>>146237087
Haven't you sold your account yet
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Holy shit I just found out about anim cancels and combos.

I'm a lvl 54 ranger
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>>146238307
You have bad memory or you just don't pay attention.
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>>146237664
I havent really tried because I am kinda attached to it. For some reason I still have hope that the game will become fun again. Havent really been doing anything but world bosses for the past 3-4 weeks, though.
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>>146239070
I had known about them I just didn't realise how important they are plus all the secret combos
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What happened to nooby?
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>tfw someone bought the perfect horse off the market I was planning to buy because of market registration queues didn't give me my money fast enough
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>>146013982
51 maehwa trying to get into ic
whispered the people, no response if someone could add me in that'd be great
IGN : moonlitrose
No weeb shame
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Why the fuck are so many KR high end players running Red Nose armor? I dont get it. They have everything on +19, sure as hell should be possible for them to just get a Hebetate chest. Red Nose is worse in any way imaginable and should cost the same to enhance, the fuck am I missing here.
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>>146245506
you want to ERP?
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w h y
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>>146245869
>he doesn't know
lol
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>>146246198
scat fetishist?
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Haven't touched the game since release, what's changed so far?

Always found giving MMO's time to stew results in more fun playing.
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>Log in after growth stats get normalized
>200 more HP and 150 more WP
Good to know that in addition to drops and enhancement I was also getting fucked just leveling up too.
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>>146246610
hell no, just why is the underwear texture like that
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>>146246630
Everybody gained at least 100flat HP for some reason. Most people I know also got 50+ Mana/WP/WhateverP.

Didnt look like they actually adjusted it to an average, more like they just increased shit all across the board.
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>>146246621
Same as ever.
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>>146246758
Nah people in my guild lost stats, but only a few compared to the majority who gained. I stayed at the same HP and gained WP though, so I had average rolls it seems.
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>>146245869
Dont worry, people who play KR dont have a fucking clue waht they are doing. When I see FroZZen farm I ask myself how that clown ever made it to 60 and got his gear to +19. He farms so ridiculously inefficiently that I, running around in +15 gear right now, can probably clear Hasrah with a higher gold per hour than he does. Either everybody is completely incompetent on KR or every retard can become gear capped if he farms inefficiently for long enough.

Hurts my head to watch him farm to be honest.
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>>146246984
>16gig patch
>same as ever
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>>146246659
maybe you shouldn't have pooped your pants
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>>146240383
he got really lucky initially and got stuff like marks, witches, and even an ogre in like the first week.

Once everyone started to catch up and he lost his OP advantage he left. Simple as that.
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Sorc or Tamer? I cant make up my mind what to main. Which awakening weapon is cooler? I feel like Tamers are too common among degenerate, ERPing pedos whom I would prefer to not be associated with.
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>>146248314
If you're looking that far into it, i'd say tamer, but tamer wont ever be good at anything except 1v1 until her awakening weapon comes out
>>146245506
Reminder still looking for inv
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>>146248314
Swords are cool but darkness is also cool, but your external reason for erring on the side of sorc over tamer is beta as fuck.
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>>146245506
>>146248448
Put discord.me/inner_circle into web browser for an invite
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>tfw even MORE transphobic stuff in guild chat and discord

I think I might just leave ;_;
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>>146249056
What are you some kind of faggot
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>>146249056
You and I both know you're bsing us making up a story about some transphobic guild that doesn't even exist. I don't know why you're doing it 'cause the replies you get are as shitty as your posts.
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>>146248448
>see this
>look up dignitas members to see how they're doing
>scarra is fatter
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>>146249171
Wouldnt be so sure about it. Last time someone complained on TS about 'how guild members are very rude' half of the guild called him a nigger, the other one discussed plans to eradicate all the Jews. Thats European top guilds for you.
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So how much DP do I need to not get stun locked into death by a mage?
pvp so far has not been fun
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>>146249407
Just git gud
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>>146249407
DP has nothing to do with whether or not you end up getting stunned. There isnt anything you can do about Wizards either. They had exactly one counter in the entire game and while they got buffed, the counter got nerfed into oblivion.

Wizards were broken pre patch and are completely broken now. If you consider the lack of available counters its pretty mindblowing how anyone could possible have thought that patching this should was a smart idea.
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>>146249269
That sounds like a joke to me, quite appropriate as a response. Of course more context would be appreciated.
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>>146249407
>pvp so far has not been fun
you don't play wizard do you
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>>146249171
I'm in ITC and it hurts my feelings seeing stuff all the time about how trans people should be shot and gassed and killed
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>>146249515
Yeah obviously I'm not a good player, I haven't bothered learning anything about pvp yet or any of my classes combos
just trying to farm for my gear before I bother with any of that
still disheartening to get stunlocked to ded like that

>>146249556
I see

>>146249616
I play samurai man of many tornadoes
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>>146249656
try being a trans chick growing up in the southern US
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>>146249656
Why the fuck do you think anyone here cares? Just fucking leave, faggot. Join a hugbox guild where you gay fucks can have suckoff parties in the streets or something.
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>>146249689
What you can do though is get a Emerald Necklace of Tranquility for stun resistance. You would sacrificing some AP for 30% Stun/Freeze resistance which deals with most of Wizards stuff apart from their most broken status ailments, stiffness. Fucking garbage nigger slow who came up with this mentally challenged mechanic RREEEEEEEEMreoi hroiethnsjkthnsjt fgseis
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>>146249879
Where you at bby? I'm in Mississippi and I'll fuck anything with a wet hole.
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>>146249656
>how trans people should be shot and gassed and killed
Suddenly I have respect for these ERPing degenerates. Feels weird to say the least.
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>>146249990
moved to the land of hockey and maple syrup
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>>146249656
literally just join IC we are a very progressive guild
we legit have had multiple trannies in the guild already
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>>146249656
Just leave 'em then man. Personally I think trans people are pretty kimochi warui just like blubberballs and other types I'm not sexually attracted to but whatever man just leave 'em, christ. Leave that shit guild. It doesn't suit you.
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>>146249656
>>146249879
>>146249941
>>146250031
Motherfuckers what the fuck are you supposed to be spoiling
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>>146250381
My day.
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>>146250069
Yeah, I'm in IC and I constantly post pictures of my shaved legs and ass in guild chat. I just love sucking dicks, the more the better! Being trans is great, if you're offended by my love for dicks you're a racist asshole who should burn in hell.
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>>146250510
i wish you were real
only a few people have posted their legs, most are gross and hairy
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Do any VG guilds have a node yet?
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>>146250510
>>146250594
I can't believe your ignorance, shaving your legs is a construct of patriarchal society. You don't want to uphold oppression, do you?
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>>146251825
Kys
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>>146249656
You should be gassed along with those trannies. Seriously, fuck off
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Could convince myself to buy some Daum cash.
>Internal servererror
They just don't money, do they?
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>>146252219
You gotta log out and back in on the site again.
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>>146013982
>>146131641
>Day 3 out of 6: week 1
>Chan guilds waiting for all the good guilds to get 2 nodes
Literally sad at this point. Wouldn't want to join them if my life depended on it.
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>>146252420
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>>146252250
Oh damn, you're right. Thanks.
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>>146013982
>buy 3 luck crystals to see how it affects my grind
>get less drops
Damn you daum
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>after laying around being lazy shitposting decide to play black desert
>maintenance in 15 minutes

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>146254764
It's only 4 hours bro, it's not the end of the world.
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>>146013982
>google consequences of negative karma
>threads of carebears complaining it isn't harsh enough on the forums
>literally torch and pitch forking people who kill to protect their farm spot
>even with all the ridiculous penalties you get for pking, they want more penalties
What the fuck. are these people serious, thats what makes the game fun.
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>>146255440
Different people have different concepts of fun.
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>>146255496
which is why the already broken system that punishes people for player killing types of fun should be fixed and not made worse like they're asking for.
If they follow your type of thinking, they'd be asking to fix it so we can play the way we think the game is fun without being fucked in the ass
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>>146254764
>didn't grind yesterday because ndoe wars
>wake up late today
>maintenance
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>>146255634
Not necessarily. Everybody thinks their opinion is the right one and they're the good guys, it's inevitable two opposing sides clash like that. It's not about being fair to everyone, it's about justice prevailing, whichever side you happen to perceive that justice on.
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Once Legion hits this game is going F2P. Enjoy it while you can. The community and features are going to turn into shit soon.
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>>146255440
I think it's a good thing that the farm spots aren't controlled by edgy faggots with higher numbers.
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>>146255904
But that doesn't apply to my comment because for the pk side of the game you are cut from the most essential part of the games content and the means to fuel your playstyle.
From their side, if they die, i still lose more than they do.
>i kill them
>they lose 6k silver at most
>they have a minute walk to farming zone
>they lose no exp
>i kill them
>i lose my means to sustain my gear
>i lose millions of silver in dear degredation and gems breaking
>i can't replace either of these because i get cut from every city
>people can kill me for free and if i attack them back, i get more "bad guy points
>i lose more exp when i die
>im cut from all the content they're doing
Theres no argument that this isn't weighing towards one side.
>>146256004
Well that's not neccesarily what i'm talking about and i agree with that.
But when someone comes on to you with a bigger aoe class and starts following you around farming on top of you, it's ridiculous that you get absolutely shit on if you defend against this player.
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>>146256269
It's supposed to weigh towards one side, that's what I'm saying. They don't want pkers. It's not supposed to be fair.
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>>146256412
But you also said not everyone has the same type of fun, so it shouldn't be weigh'd to one side if it were to support your opinion, there should be equal opportunity loss so that all types of fun are available and sustained.
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>>146256496
No, my opinion aligns with them, I don't like pkers. That is not mutually exclusive with everyone having their own opinion though. I do recognize everyone has their own opinion, I just believe mine is the one that's right. Savvy?
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>>146256625
So if you understand that everyone has their own opinions and ways to have fun, how could you say yours is the right one?
If you enjoy the game, you'd want every aspect to be playable, seeing as how the dev's added the option to pk other players at anytime, anywhere. It's easy to see that this was an intended addition to the game. If you can recognize someone else enjoys a different aspect of the game that you enjoy, the only reasonable conclusion is that you should both be able to enjoy the game equally as much because both playstyles were intended to be fair and fun for both in the game in the first place.
by saying that it's weighed in one playstyles favor would mean that your opinion is destructive to the games health as a whole and that you are limiting how much enjoyment you can get from your playstyle and adding to the failure of a game you enjoy playing.
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Is it just me or is the amount of shit talking people increasing since node wars comes out? Kill kids and they start talking shit almost every time now
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>>146256496
Not everyone has the same type of fun, but the game can't be all things to all people because certain people only get their enjoyment at other people's expense. Those who only play the game because they want to be a big fish in a small pond can't sustain a game by themselves, and they can't feel like the big fish unless the pond is welcoming to a great number of smaller fish.
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>>146252551
woah THE blade_at Honora
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Fuck PRX/ XRP. We tried today, but the zerg was too strong.
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>>146257071
Not him, but you're talking as if the devs aren't in control. They changed a shitty system to one that's slightly less shitty.

I get that you're debating his opinion and trying to prove him wrong but it's pointless and it won't achieve anything.
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>>146257298
a way i thought of to fix this problem would be quests dedicated to helping protect lower level players against red players
This way we could have 2 big fish on either side fighting for the small fish of either side.
if you give a quest that gives a incentive for killing red players, people will stand guard around the players who like to craft and prevent the red players from getting out of hand.
that way both types of playstyle are sustained and a third one is born.
However i think most of the problems will be solved once the outlaw city is implemented, as long as the market places are connected the only real ass fucking red players will receive is the degredation.
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>>146257071
No, I want the aspects I enjoy to be playable. This is not hard to grasp. Just because the developers made something and option doesn't mean I have to like it.

I don't want those players to enjoy themselves who, like >>146257298 said, get their enjoyment at others', and my, expense. They might enjoy it, but I don't think it's right. Just like someone might enjoy torturing animals or domestic violence, I acknowledge it but I don't have to agree that torturing animals and domestic violence is cool and should be discriminalized.
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>>146257438
What guild are you in?
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>>146257758
See but then you're just admiting to knowing your actions are selfish and will contribute by limiting the amount of players able to enjoy it.
Then the aspects you enjoy wont be enjoyable because the game will be dead.
If there was no pking at all there would be no point to your playstyle because you would have no reason to craft because no one would need anything because there is nothing barring them from getting anything in the game, there would be no reason to get money because there is nothing to use the gear on after a certain point.
in the same light, officers wouldn't have jobs if criminals didn't exist. They wouldn't be able to do they thing they enjoy (protecting and helping people) if there was nothing to protect people from and help people with.
The enjoyment of those players adds depth to your playstyle, and all you are doing by preventing them to play their style within reason. (which you have admitted is wrong) is hurting yourself.
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>>146258191
There is no "point" to playing games at all. I don't craft or play to sell things to pkers, I play 'cause I think playing is fun. I like PvE and I like questing and I like crafting, that's reason enough. There's no PvP in FFX and I'm still playing FFX. There's no PvP in Skyrim and I still enjoy Skyrim. There's also no "point" to those games.

In addition, I think it'd be better if there was no crime and officers didn't have jobs, wouldn't you? They could do something else to help people and crime WOULDN'T EXIST. That's a pretty big perk right there.
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>>146258191
Who even mentioned that there should be no pk'ing at all? The game is obviously going in the direction of making more organised PvP while world PvP is still a thing for those who are prepared to do it.

Ability to defend grindspots is literally the only thing we've lost and good riddance. If people want to PvP they can duel or go to the arenas, as well as the other activities that are made FOR people who wanna PvP. Gear and money still has value even if the 1% doesn't have control over sausans.
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>>146258801
To be fair the terms pk and pvp get confused pretty often. Pking is scum, pvp is fine.
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>>146258687
But by saying you play for fun, you've given a point to play the game.
I state again you are destroying what you see as fun by not ensuring a healthy state for the game by supporting all levels of play.
PVE would not be affected by allowing other players to enjoy their play style, you could still quest, you could still craft, and you could still play the game and have fun.
The only thing that would come from it is putting more time into something you enjoy to plan, and move forward with your goal to pve and questing, do you not want to put more effort into something you enjoy?
No i do not agree, because if crime didn't exist half the things we have today wouldn't exist because of it.
Speeding is considered crime, if someone i know was dieing in a hospital and i couldnt make it going 45 miles an hour i would want the option to go faster.
>>146258801
No one did, but it's impossible to sustain a pvp playstyle with gear degredation and then cutting off people from shops and marketplaces that recover that degredation.
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>>146259076
>Speeding is considered crime, if someone i know was dieing in a hospital and i couldnt make it going 45 miles an hour i would want the option to go faster.
>someone i know is dying and i'm an emotional wreck so i should have the option to put other people at risk
lmao what?
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>>146259076
Call an ambulance bro, they don't have to follow speed limits.

My fun is affected when a big dick comes over and starts killing me when I'm doing my thing. That happens less now. That's better for me. I don't give a fuck if they enjoy it. I'm not destroying anything for myself here, I'm enjoying the game more the less pkers get to wave their chinchins around.

BDO would be quite fine with no open world PvP. There are PvP areas for those so inclined, but those who want to back attack someone who's doing something else can suck a dick for all I care. While it's true that someone can outfarm you by killing mobs faster than you, that's fair play, they're just better at it. This is not a problem to me.

Again, this is not difficult to understand. Take RuneScape for example, that game has designated PvP zones, and while I still don't like pking there's very rarely reason for me to go there. This is fine, I don't want any part in it. The game is also doing quite fine with that setup. My problem is having the pking forced on me unwilling in BDO.

>The only thing that would come from it is putting more time into something you enjoy to plan, and move forward with your goal to pve and questing, do you not want to put more effort into something you enjoy?
What are you even saying here?
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>>146259817
>being this out of material
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so this died out and everyone went back to archeage?
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>>146260002
no everyone super hype about node wars that just came out and giant new patch next week
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>>146259934
>making dumb analogies
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>>146259927
I dont think an ambulance would come get you to drive you to see someone at the hospital, not to mention that would double what ever travel time it was because they'd have to come get you, and then drive back to the hospital.
this does affect you, this lessens the time you are able to enjoy this activity, if he killed you for no reason, then called you a noob i would understand your point, but he's just trying to enjoy the game as well by fighting the farming spot.
Wouldn't the same argument apply when you kill someone for mobs? you're better at getting to the mobs than they are, so they're better at it and deserve it for killing you.
Bdo does have designated pvp zones, there are safe zones for you to enjoy and quest in, you are not forced to be pk'd you are unwilling to do the work that would prevent other players from pk'ing you. i.e. picking a safer farming spot, taking safer routes for quests, crafting and fishing in different areas.
I was saying by having these players, you are forced to put more time into thinking about how you'll craft, questing in different ways to avoid these problems, and many other things that would cause you to invest time into the questing and crafting you claim to enjoy.
>>146260229
D.O.A desu senpai good try though.
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>>146260386
>explanation of the third line for you
You're saying that people should be rewarded when they grind mobs faster than you, therefore deserve those mobs.
If someone kills you, then is able to kill your mobs because he killed you, he is technically better at grinding mobs than you and deserves those mobs.
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1.23GB just for regular maintenance? wat
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>>146260606
Probably preloading some stuff in preparation for next week.
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>>146260386
Oh sorry I read it as you had someone at your side that needed medical attention, that's what ambulances are for. >>146259817 is right then, you have no reason to speed.

>>146260489
See, I don't agree with that reasoning, I just don't like pking. To me, all pkers are the type that kill me for no reason, and they can rot. I don't want them to enjoy themselves, they're evil. I don't want to be forced to put more time into thinking how to avoid these problems 'cause I don't want these problems. A designated PvP zone that I'm talking about is a separate battlefield, or other area, with little other reason to go there than PvP, like the Wilderness or Red Battlefield. Don't act obtuse for the sake of it, I'm sure you understood what I meant.

I don't really agree on encroaching on spots where others are already using resources either, and I NEVER ever do it 'cause I have values, but if it was done to me I wouldn't kill 'em, I'd just ask 'em politely first, then see if I could outfarm them or change area.

Basically what I'm saying is what I do is right and if I don't do it it's not right. In my opinion. That's the only thing I've been trying to get across to you lmao. I'm trying to tell you there's no way we can see eye to eye on this, that's all. It's always going to be one side against the other, that was what we originally talked about.
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>>146261254
I dont agree with that first statement because a collision at 45 mph is enough to kill someone already, you would not be risking the persons life anymore than you would be driving on a normal day.
Well i guess we just agree to disagree then friend, i do hope you can still enjoy the things you do when the pvp city comes out and the penalties get removed for the desert.
I'm sure they have something in place to keep it stable though, i dont think they'd let them run rampant that much.
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>>146261504
>45 mph is enough to kill someone already, you would not be risking the persons life anymore than you would be driving on a normal day.
Do you even drive? If you do then you know that speed limits aren't just random numbers picked from a hat. There are a lot more variables to consider and holy shit this has nothing to do with anything.
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>>146261684
if you're going with that, civil engineers that design roads and bridges leave space to account for speeders, so the argument you're angling wouldn't make sense
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>>146261779
>leave space to account for speeders
They leave space to account for overtaking, ample distance between vehicles and room for vehicles to pull over in case of emergency without blocking traffic. Don't be stupid anon.
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>>146261951
I dont know what to tell you anon, im not being stupid. im providing you with a reasonable argument.
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>>146262117
>im providing you with a reasonable argument.
One that completely disregarded my initial point and one that I provided a counter for. Good talk though, it's been real insightful lmao.
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>>146262245
You said that speed limit numbers weren't picked from a hat.
i agreed, and responded that they account for speeding, which would mean it was safe to go a few miles over proving my point.
you stated other things that civil engineers also do and called me stupid.
i told you i was trying to reason with you.
you said calling me stupid was a good counter.
>good talk though, it's been real insightful lmao.
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I'm looking for a new MMO to sink my time into, does anyone have a guest pass to spare?
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>>146257806
Troublemaker
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It's fucking nothing: the patch
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>>146264310
tamer nerf, thank god too OP as fuck class
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>>146264372
>tamer nerf
that awakening must really do them justice to put this bullshit out,
i wonder if it ruined 1v1's for them seeing as it's all they had.
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How's this game for someone who always loved sandbox MMO's?
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>>146264823
It's one of the best sandbox mmo's at this time. However, some traditional mmo selling points are missing such as dungeons and quality quest lines.

Honestly, the quest lines in this game are presented in such an unappealing way I simply can't follow any of the lore. The weight behind the combat among many other things make up for that in my opinion.

The grind is eternal
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>>146264823
life skills are A+ think a good graphic runescape with just as many options and places to explore and add a explorable sea, economy, and make everything outside of cities the wildy
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>>146264823
>>146265451
I take economy back, tradings disabled, daum fucked us.
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>>146264692
if tamer wakening is so good it justifies nerfing everything else why does giant get more buffs when his awakening was supposedly the best at least before last batch came out?
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>>146013982
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>>146265658
isn't that the path of exile guy?
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server up
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>>146265693
he's now hearthstone guy, but yes.
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>>146265182
Post more
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So Valencia next week or what?
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>walk into helms mine
>kill all the golems
>teleport out with whole cartian spell
they still are pain to kill
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>>146268595
I doubt it, but I hope I'm wrong.
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>>146249056
>you can be phobic of a mental disorder
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>>146269892
Absolutely possible.
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>>146270005
>schizophrenicphobic
>bipolarphobic
>multiple personality disorderphobic
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>90% of npcs in Tarif are all facing the same direction
This is like something straight from horror films.
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>>146270158
>he doesnt think those people exist
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>>146271159
>not being scared of having mental disorders
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>wake up
>still upset by missing the perfect horse on the market yesterday
might as well kill myself now, never see one like that ever again
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>>146272430
perfect being fully skilled pure white T7?
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What the fuck happened with Bares necklaces? Suddenly they're 450k+ on the market.
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>>146272758
no
perfect relative to my tier 3 horse i've had all game
100% instant accel and drift, 140% speed, had two seater and looked cool ;_;
It was only 19mil but I've been buying up +15 versions of my armor so that's usually 20m a piece.
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why doesnt backspace work on value input tool anymore?
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I've been thinking of buying this game and I'll probably pull the trigger tomorrow. What are the differences between sorcerer and wizard? Which provides the more classic approach to magic?
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>>146274124
>Which provides the more classic approach to magic?
Wizard
they're also overpowered as opposed to sorc who just got nerfed hard
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>>146272758
>pure white
But why? You may go fast but you're fucked in the angles
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>>146274854
then what the fuck is drift four
>>
>>146275112
Yeah, good luck having to drift three times on a sharp turn while I just instant accel my way through
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>>146274124
If you're going wizard, get a horse with stirrups as soon as possible. Witches and Wizards on horseback are powerful and they're extremely fun, too.
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>>146277184
Cute!
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Wake up, /bdog/.
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>>146280178
Zzzzzzzzz
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>>146280453
Wake up or I'll rub your thighs
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>>146280725
But lazy days are so refreshing
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>>146282253
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>>146283760
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>>146249656
That's what happens when you take in members from a pure Christian guild.
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>>146013982
Is there still an ip block?
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>>146284175
If you're not in the countries in the contract, yes.
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>>146260002
Yes
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>>146264823
It isnt a sandbox, not even close to one.
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why are these here
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>>146289449
fapfic when
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>>146273180
It used to work? I think I tried it once and it didn't work, man this game could really use some UI and quality of life updates.
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The best I can fucking do.
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>>146290356
If you dig her she's good. I don't care about rating your waifu though, or whether you think you did your best with her or not. You don't need my, or anyone else's approval, I absolve you of this requirement.
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Really digging the idea for this game and the sieges and node wars. Thinking of buying it, but not really sure if my computer is up for it. Can anyone help me out and say if I could take the heat and be able to viably participate in sieges and what not without taking an absolute unplayable shit dive to my FPS?

16gigs of RAM
i5-2500k CPU @ 3.3ghz (4CPUS) (I think the weakest part of my rig)
GTX 970
Windows 10
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how much accuracy is too much for pvp?
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>>146290835
Very doable, probably medium graphics when there's a ton of shit going on but you can run high otherwise.
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>>146290835
I've got a 970 and it runs perfectly fine on medium but my cpu is a i5 3570
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>>146289487
I don't think the anon who said that ever plans on delivering
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>>146290835
I run the game at max settings with 16gb of ram and a 750TI on win7 and I don't have any issues
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>>146291052
>tfw been saving up my cum for it all this time
m-my musclefuta x noblevalk
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You know feeling when you quit an MMO but still login for some reason because you have nothing else to play? That has been me recently.
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>>146290835
I have 40 stable fps with i7 3880 and gtx 680
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>>146291235
iktf bro
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>>146291235
well they just added node wars and sieges, arguably the only part of the game that anyone really bought the game for, so go join a guild or something dummy.
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>>146291476
I already played them and they are a gigantic clusterfuck that doesnt even make it possible for PK guilds to mess with bigger ones. Its a shitty instanced system, which is not what I played this game for.
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>>146291708
k
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>>146290835
If need be, you can play this on fucking runescape mode graphics. Most systems can handle this game.
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Is the damage to humans really worth that much on yuria?
Running a krea wepon set would give me way more stats and evasion + 4 crystal slots that I can fill with atk speed and crit
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>>146292741
Run krea if you want to.
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>>146292887
So it's preference and no strictly better choice?
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>>146293058
Yes.
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>>146293181
Gonna give it a shot then and see how badly I miss the 15 accuracy
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>>146293364
Oh yes, miss is what you will do a lot.
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>>146294252
Isn't 45 accuracy overkill though
I get 30 with krea set
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>>146290712
The whole face shaping thing was a bitch to get used to.I'm happy whit the way she turned out.
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>>146290356
Pretty good desu
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I wish Sorc was a special snowflake class.
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>>146299167
It's not?
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>>146299508
Its easily third of the list most played classes. Thats not special snowflake. Tamer is probably the only true special snowflake class at this point in time
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Wake up, /bdog/.
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>>146299718
Ranger feels more special snowflake.

>Elf
>Easy class
>OP

Most PKers are rangers, I think because its safe to fuck others up.
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>>146300191
Special snowflake means that youre specifically playing the least popular class cuckboy. A Ranger player cant be a special snowflake player because hes playing the BY FAR most played class in the game.
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>>146300283
Good thing ranger is easy on the eyes. Unlike something like tamer lolishit.
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Awaken, my general
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>>146300671
Dude there's discussion RIGHT NOW.
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>>146300671
we're awake you silly cunt
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>>146300731
>discussion
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>>146301842
: the act of talking about something with another person or a group of people : a conversation about something
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Migrate
>>146302403
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>>146299167
What does it matter?
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>>146302446
>1post early
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hey guys just bought the game and wondering what class to pick up
zerker, tamer, valk, blader, or ninja?

i ran rogue/warlock in WoW, assassin/thief in GW/GW2, and katarina during my brief stint with mobas. as you can see i usually run rogue shit

i'd like to do the same here but not be completely useless in group situations
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