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Overpowered Edition

previous bread >>145988212

>Official Stuff
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/community/

>Official Comics
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us

>The Oversheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

>/owg/ ID List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-1uOqymySz22QFhC6S19HPb8WKJBDNd3ILj679bW2Sk

>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>/owg/ Survery
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1n4-Xcs6_u2-uPPNrSUYiyKhE1_xFxrt1NsgbsrSOw6w/viewform

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/416mmBkq

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com

>Porn archive
https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0ByzmhGDY8u8MUWFTalAyVDBRTU0&export=download

>Overwatch DPS Sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D4jOtaosiZoM2VA9IjRRPaiMbTTZtPrD1d8mK23DPa0
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Kill all Meis
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its always your fault when you lose
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pls buff d. va
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Pharah
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Quick, /owg/
Help me with this counter chart
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Roadhog now takes 50% reduced damage while casting Take a Breather
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Build em up, break em down
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When will Blizzard start banning all these toxic pieces of shit?
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>>146000706
I'm playing Genji
I know the risks
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Any previews for new skins yet?
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Ice Wall should crumble when it takes a certain amount of damage
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>>146000734
Blue arrows from Mei pointing to everyone
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why does every low level choose Hanzo
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>tfw you escape death by the skin of your teeth and make it to Mercy's warm healing embrace
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21:9 support when
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>>146000734
http://www.owfire.com/overwatch/counters
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NERF PHARAH REEEE
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Am I as bad as I think I am
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>Hollywood defense
>beat the attacking team so hard that their cart is back to the checkpoint
>this means the cart is at their spawn
>continue the slaughter until they get a momentum swing and actually win the game
>"take that u fags teach u 2 not spawn camp"

why do I think the guy that said this was the Hanzo that fired 0 dragons through the entire match
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>>146000793

you should read about what a hero does before you suggest changes because ice wall can be destroyed you dumb ape
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Playing with you guys is kinda fun
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Xth for you guys are my only friends
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>>146000734
D.Va U-turns back into herself
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can Gods be stopped?
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>>146000627
Mei is cute.
Post cute Mei.

Mei wouldn't be cute if she didn't have glasses and her upbeat personality.
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>implying any of you come close to Seagull even if you have a pocket healer

All the haters are actually shit players. Seagull just fucking owns where it be pub or tournaments - if he uses Genji he would literally wipe the floor with the other team.

Genji got nerfed in the first place because of him and if he unleashes his Genji in tournaments, Blizzard will just nerf him again.

None of you losers even come close to him. You could have a pocket Mercy and a Zenyatta harmony orb on you and he'd still shit on you, lmao.
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>>146000814
>Mercy player
>healing anyone other than the tank
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>>146000947
who
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I'm the Hanzo in your games who never hits any arrows
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HARD VARK
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ive called every Tracer player i've come across a useless piece of shit but I think I should turn a new leaf and give her a shot

should I play Tracer?
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>>146000947
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>>146000759
>Go back to playing with Lego
>playing with Lego
>someone was triggered by this
>PLAYING WITH LEGO
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>>146000846
you're better than me. I'm at 48.8%
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>Entire team wipes except for me
>Spam the group up message near spawn
>Soldier76 completely ignores me and goes 1vs5
>caralho eim, avan(wierd ass c)a time

EVERYTIME
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>>146001017
So literally every Hanzo ever?
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I think I made a mistake buying Mariachi over El Blanco. The guns on Blanco are gold trimmed and fancy as shit.
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>>146001002
Some youtuber. Guy has a pocket mercy on him at all times and uses her ult exclusively for him if he dies.
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>>146000942
Very true
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>>146000734
Phara blue to reaper tracer mercy mei junkrat
genju blue to mccree marcy lucio bastion widow hanzo
reaper blue to tracer mercy lucio winston roadhog reinhardt dva
dva blue to dva
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New to overwatch - What is the counter for the Reinhardt / bastion+tobjorn combo?
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>>146000824
Who are the idiots voting on this website? This is worthless. What the fuck am I reading
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>>146000734
Blue from Genji to Bastion, Reaper to Winston, Roadhog and D.Va, and McCree to Tracer
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>>146000947
is there some tournament going on now?

twitch link if so, I'm curious

>>146001017
but are you the Hanzo that complains of no support/support sucks?
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Post your masteroverwatch!
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>>146000986
>Rein has shield up, or hog is healing himself, or D Va is fucking off somewhere in the back line
I will heal whoever I think needs it. Except that Hanzo.
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The timelimit is way too strict for the attacking team. No matter how well my team does it always comes down to overtime.
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>>146001125
Junkrat and Roadhog or Genji
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>>146001141
What seems to be the problem?
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>welcome to hollywood
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I want every single tracer player to get themself in a horrible accident which will make them spend the rest of their pathetic lives on a hospital bed, being fed liquid feces through a fucking tube

And before you ask, i main DVA
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>join game
>route 66 defend
>a level 73 Genji instalocks
>leave game
Will Blizzard ever introduce TMD for these retards
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>>146000824
>genji or pharah counters mccree
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>>146000627
Have you played the based robot god of POTGs today, /owg/?
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Friendly reminder that professional Overwatch player Cloud9.Surefour used aimlock cheats in Titanfall tournaments.
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>play Junkrat
>some guy gets pissed off at me and switches to my class and tries to solo me
>gets rip tire, fires it with the only intention to kill me
>throw out a mine and blow it up, then kill him
>disconnects in the middle of the match
feels good man
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>>146001068
>>caralho eim, avan(wierd ass c)a time
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>>146001176
I have not played a lot

http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/cameo-11782
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>>146001162
gosugamers, Seagull shit on Splyce and are going to finals.
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>>146001125
junkrat, spamming down the shield outside of bastion's line of sight, flankers, symmetra rightclick
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>>146001017
>Shit at hanzo
>Spam arrows
>Get lucky headshots by aiming at their chest

Pic related is me
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>>146001068
let me help you

>"caralho eim, avança time" means something like "god damn it team, advance"
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>>146000947
>has a healer sucking this faggots dick all the time
>"""""GOOD"""""
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What emote should i get for my waifu?
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>>146001017
Do you need healing?
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>>146001263
who?
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>>146001376
the spin one
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>>146001263

Friendly reminder that professional Overwatch player Cloud9.Surefour uses aimlock cheats in Overwatch tournaments.
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>My team with 3 D.vas facing off against 2 Reapers

IT KEEPS HAPPENING. Blizzard desperately wants me to lose a game, but I'm not letting go without a fair fight. They want me to lose? Fine, but don't let me fight a 6v1 to do so.
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Lucio main, does anyone wanna play right here, right now?
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>>146001319
>not shooting at the feet with GEOMETRY
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>enemy team goes double bastion

REMOVE THIS FUCKING CANCER.
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will pubs catch onto the 2 tank 2 dps 2 support meta when ranked goes live?
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>>146001376
>using emotes at all
im lvl 54 and have not seen a single person use an emote
get that one that spins the guns
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>Winston
>not stupidly OP for how braindead he is
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>>146001208
>Mei
>Strong against literally any of those characters
Maybe Symmetra and Winston.

Only a shit Genji would get frozen or hit by Mei ever
Only a shit Lucio would be caught away from his team and out of position
How is Mei even remotely strong against D.Va? This doesn't make any sense, freeze + 2 spikes doesn't even kill the mech
How is Mercy weak against Mei, she has free flight away from her, only a shit Mercy would be caught out of position away from her team
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they need to replace
>we need a healer
with
>where the fuck is the team
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>>146001482
that only works when your dps can actually aim
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>>146001472
I never kill anyone with it, I've tried.
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What counters Zarya?
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>>146001369

>None of you losers even come close to him. You could have a pocket Mercy and a Zenyatta harmony orb on you and he'd still shit on you, lmao.

Hell, you can have 3 healers on your ass and still lose against Seagull with him just having a Mercy.

You can have a Mercy, Zenyatta healing orb AND a Lucio using speed boost or more heals and he'd outright wreck your shit.
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>>146000759
>Gets clear instruction to "Stop typing"
>Types a whole wall of text on reddit
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>>146000734
>Reaper countering Symmetra

Nigga dance around him. You'll kill him.
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>>146001480
pley
genji
>>146001482
two tanks would have to be rein+winston or roadhog every game which I am not excited for
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>>146001519
>get an epic
>its an emote
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>>146000947
I think I'll start an experiment where I play mercy and mostly follow one person around for the entire match, then see how many kills they got and everything.
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>>146001578
Reaper
his weapon is hitscan so if youre not retarded she cant get energy off of you
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>>146001453

Friendly reminder that professional Overwatch player EnvyUs.Taimou uses aimlock cheats in Overwatch tournaments.
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Any recommendations for practice resources to help people git gud at FPS aim and movement mechanics?

I play with some friends that are Blizzard fanboys/MOBA shitters and who have no FPS experience, and as the resident former CS player of the group I end up tearing my hair out watching them play. I'd love to, you know, subtly recommend something to help them get better.
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>>146001482
You mean 3 Genjis and a McCree?
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>>146001453
>competitive overwatch

lmao who cares, kill yourself
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>Hook someone with hog
>Hook literally just pops off

What the fuck?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K5uZmGUCOw
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>>146001085
So his K/D ratio must be insane to justify throwing the rest of his team under the bus.
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/xivg/ here,give us Marsy back
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>>146001176
http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/eu/Temas-2100

I only leave games that already started when I joined them or when I'm lagging.
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>>146001369
although you to just replied to an obvious bait, I'll say that I've tried pocketing people with mercy several times, and none of them could protect me long enough
having your own personnal mercy doesn't make you good
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>>146001594

>>146001640
what does this image have to do with overwatch
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>>146001376
You should get sporty (the better pink skin) for the same price
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>>146001578
Reaper
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>>146001719
Well he has mutiple videos of him getting like 50 eliminations and still losing.
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>>146000759
overwatch is safespace now?
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>>146001640
faster you slut
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>>146000869

Maybe it should take less damage than fucking Bastion shooting the bitch.
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>>146001110
That's a cute Mei. Do you have any more?
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>>146001723
how about you stay in /xivg/ you dumb sex depraved degenerate. go erp and have a heart attack or something.
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>>146001727
nice excuse
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>>146001850
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>/owg/ - Streamer discussion


Welp, it was fun while it lasted gents.
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>>146001757
Sporty and Posh are both good and I respect your opinion
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>>146000947
spot the seagull sub who actually welcomes new subs with the exclusive emotes
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>have genji, 76 and pharah on team
>bastion doesnt die once
Please end this 50/50 meme
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>>146001629
We had a genji so it wasn't as bad but still.
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>>146001453
>"""""""""""""""""professional""""""""""""""""" Overwatch player
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>>146001663
>that frantic mouse jerking as he tries to get away from it
NO I'M NOT AIMBOTTING I SWEAR STOP NOT-AIMBOT-SOFTWARE YOU'RE BLOWING MY COVER
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>>146001702
>english text
>non english voices
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>>146000759
>tilted

I have never heard this in reference to anything that wasn't pinball

what the fuck?
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>>146000759
>>146001812
Could be worse. We could be in Battleborn's situation.
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>>146001252
I hope I can hold lmb as efficiently as you one day
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>>146000759
>r/brokenfeels
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How do I deal with higher level torb players as Pharah? They place them in really hard places to counter. Should I just switch?
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>>146001578


Pharah can stay outside her particle cannon range, Tracer is extremely hard for Zarya to hit, and unless she's fully charged a Mei can just bully her, even if she shields.

Bastion can both outrange her and vaporize her shields in a picossecond.

Some people here are saying Reaper, but from my experience any 1v1 with Reaper ends up with him going spooky ghost away.
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>>146001727
Yeah sure, otherwise you easily carry games when you have more deaths than final blows on fucking Soldier 76

Seriously, what do you gain from manipulating fucking quick play stats?
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>Get 4 golds
>Lose
>Get 4 bronzes
>win

What does it mean
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>>146001850
Ice Wall is short in duration. If it could be destroyed easily, it'd be worthless. In fact, the only reason any Ice Wall segments can be destroyed at all is to prevent multiple Mei cheese strategies infinitely blocking an entrance. It's not supposed to be able to be destroyed under ordinary circumstances.
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where are the best spots to turret up as dwarf and robot
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>>146002054
you were carried
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>>146002005
Swap to junkrat and ruin their day.
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>>146001702
oioioioi
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Every game every FUCKING game I get an Offense Widow that doesn't fucking contribute anything and when you tell them to switch they get all defensive and make you out to be the bad guy by 'telling them what to play' and we fucking lose because this one narcissistic cunt can't work with his team.
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>>146002054
>>146002110
bronzes aren't last place, retards
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>managed to get my win rate to 56%
>start getting put into games that are almost over + games with braindead teammates
>been falling rapidly
>now at 51%

:^)
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>>146001967
only F2P could save battleborn
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>>146002054
You are experiencing the forced fifty effect
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>every single game is either me carrying my team or my team carrying me
>>146002054
FORCED 50
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>>146001967
Jesus christ that entire post
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>spend a week grinding out 10 more loot boxes
>first one opened is another legendary
Damn now I have to choose between this and the Golden skin.
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>>146001472
>Shoot scatter at Genji's feet
>He reflects it all and wipes three teammates.

Nyoro~n
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Mako or Sharkbait for Roadhog? I like both color schemes so I'm not sure.
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>>146001612
he can one-shot her turrets
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>>146001871
Enjoy joining games as defense on Volskaya Industries with 8 minutes left defending for point B :^)
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>>146002005
bait him out of his hole then e him toward your team
deal with the turret while hes dead
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>>146001967
>do things to handicap your team
I am pretty sure Overwatch playerbase already mastered this aspect.
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>>146002131
Sniper "mains" are usually awful. The same was true in tf2 as well.
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>>146000759
You can turn the chat off, right? Atleast the voice chat you can. That's what I do in every game so Idiots won't annoy me, don't know why these people don't do it.
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>look at my winrate
>it's 45%
>realize that playing for fun isn't making me win
>start spamming torbjörn at every defend
>one week later
>winrate 56%
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>>146001858
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>>146002253
Sharkbait to maintain piggy
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Has forced 50 actually been in games other than overwatch? What are the signs of it?
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>>146002253

toa
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>>146002257
I don't know if you have noticed, but Symmetra turrets have ONE SINGLE HEALTH POINT
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>>146002217
commando 76 is the best
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>>146002246
well, you couldn't have known.

after all

you arr onry hooman
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NERF PHARAH
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>>146002149
>Was at 80% for Rein
>Got hit HARD with the retard teams and last minute entries into losing games
>Down to 66%, averaging 3.5 golds per match
>Keep getting hit
>Through sheer force of will keep it to 55%
>Slowly recovering now I play with friends more
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>>146001453
>>146001663
>>146001263
I get accused of using aimbots quite often, with Mei's icicle.

Would it even be possible to use an aimbot as Mei, since the icicle fires a second or so after you click, meaning you have to compensate for both the firing delay and projectile speed?
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>fail to dish out 250 damage within 3 seconds
>get immobilized and killed moments later

How the shit do I counter this obese chink I swear to god I'm going to fucking murder someone and it's gonna be her
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>>146001727
>below 2:1 kda with that winrate
>low avg elims, high avg deaths
>i only leave games if im lagging!
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>>146002257
As can literally every other hero

I'm talking about her primary gun. It hits hard, and it'll tear through that unnecessary 250 hp fast.

Sentries in proper areas can also predict flanks and shit over a Reaper's good time
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>>146002308
I'm pretty sure forced 50% was a pretty big scandal for WoW
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How do you beat Tracer other than "have perfect aim" and "see into the future"?
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>>146002341
I'm just really fond of the gold-on-white 76 logo on the back.

It stands out better than the default 76 logo I feel.
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How to get gud at Pharah? How to get gud at D.Va?
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I want an offensive builder who uses drones. A surprisingly low number of sci-fi shooters do it at all. Global Agenda had a cool drone system for it's engineer.
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>>146002426
you can't kill a Mei alone.

Mei requires 2-3 players to kill unless she's wounded and doesn't have her invuln.
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>>146002405
You can aimbot with projectiles, it's just more obvious and less effective than hitscan aimbots.
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>>146002352
at ease, loser

get good
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>>146002450
junkrat
>>146002495
practice leading shots on bots for pharah
play a different character for d.va
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>>146001967
It really is unbelievable how badly 2K Games fucked up with Battleborn by releasing it in direct competition with Overwatch. They needed to release it 6 months beforehand or take some timne polishing it and learning lessons from OW and release it 6 months after. The chucklefuck who thought it was a good idea to release it in the same month as Overwatch needs to be fired because that is just gross incompetence.
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>>146002131
I get this, but I often feel like I'm stuck on the other side of the coin too. I'm not a very good Widow, but I generally play the "swing" role and that often entails going Widow to deal with Bastion, turrets, or defensive snipers, which I do decently but still feel like I'm otherwise wasting my slot because I'm not popping headshots on the rest of the other team.
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torbjorn turrets have to be buffed in exchange for losing the bullshit instant snap and 100% accuracy

make them miss at long ranges, give them time to turn around and target and they're fine

the problem with torb is not how strong he is but how fucking cancer it is to know you literally cannot go past his tower without eating shots
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>>146002450
With woah there and comme ci comme ça nerfed your only hope if you can't aim is another tracer with slightly better aim
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>>146002435
>kda is more important than objectives in a team based game!

fuck off fag
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how do you even aim with widowmaker on console?
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Why is she so perfect?
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>defense
>two hanzo already locked in
Why am i still playing this game?
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>>146002682
the game does it for you
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>>146002653
just reduce range to 25 meters
balanced
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>>146002405
>since the icicle fires a second or so after you click
More like 0.2 seconds. Shit travels as fast as a Hanzo arrow.

Projectile aimbotting is a thing. It just doesn't guarantee kills but will totally shit on people who are traveling in straight lines or obvious trajectories.
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he needed the tank buster nerf but i feel so ufcking useless playing him this way
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Hey /owg/ I'm having some issues with the game.

Stuff doesn't seem to load properly a lot of the time, like going into hero gallery it takes 30 seconds or more for the hero to actually appear, or for the skin to change.
I can join games and people are invisible for a few minutes, or im invisible for the whole game.

It seems like network issues, but I have consistently good speeds and I have my PC under DMZ so all my ports are open. What would be causing this?
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>>146001176
http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/darkcaedus-1438
I've decided to play D.Va in every match until competitive is released. It's gone better than expected.
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>>146002719

honestly I'd rather have two hanzo than two genji

bad hanzos can still land good ults
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Who is "force50" and why do people keep bringing him up?
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>>146002405
yes itd be very easy to program it to lead the enemy slightly
probably easy to make it so the snap doesnt happen either, or at least looks less obvious, albeit thatd probably diminish its usefulness and i doubt anyone that aimbots would willingly gimp themselves to make it less detectable
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>tfw played a great round as Mercy and team won
I am a good helper :3
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>>146002539
yeah if youre fucking shit.I bet you bitched about bastion too whilst running into his fire like a retard
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>>146002653
I personally think his turrets, as well as Bastion, should have a blind spot. The 90 degree arc in the beta was too heavyhanded, but I think there should be a 45 or 90 degree "wedge" at the back from which you can flank them.
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>>146002261
With good torbs I can't even peek the corner without the turret shredding me or the team firing at me too. And if I fly up to take it out I'm still dead.
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>Torbjorn and Symmetra are the only characters with a winrate above 60%
>according to owg Torbjorn is underpowered and Symmetra is situational

Is owg entirely clueless?
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>>146001176
http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/EMoney-1679

Not been a good day for me today
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>>146002719
if i see 2 hanzos or genjis already locked in at the beginning of the match I just quit and find a new game

id take a 75% cut on exp over not having fun and losing.
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>>146001629
zarya and roadhog exist and dva buffs will likely be with the ranked addition
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>>146002719
Hanzo is a good defense hero though? It's offense Hanzo you need to worry about
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>>146002653
>I can't fucking look where I'm going or find a health pack

I bet you think steel traps need a nerf, too
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>>146002719
Just pick hanzo as well. Never go half retard
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>>146002892
Do you really want a pub Zarya in your ranked game?
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>"Justin Thyme!"
Who is this guy she's talking about?
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>>146001967
While I understand he is being delusional, when a game is facing utter anihiliation and the playerbase is likely dying (iex Evolve with less than 300 players a day), being not so autismal about winning might be needed. Someone might be picking up the game just to check it out, and if he gets ultra roflstomped by one of the few neckbeards left with 4000 hours played it's likely the new player will just ask for a refund.

I had this issue with Everquest 2, you could level cap your character, and then twink him out, and roam around the low level areas in a micro pony and using an almost invisible mini halfling and waves after waves of halflings in mini ponys raped the entire newbee zones, the did like 5-7 minutes sweeps, it was really hard and really time consuming to get past those zones in pvp servers.

I'm not saying that killed the game entirely, but certainly discouraged many people from ever daring to touch the pvp servers, in the end you're left with your twink doing nothing and having no one else to kill since you sacred everyone away.

Overwatch sold 10 million units tho, so obviously there's no reason to go easy on anyone, but Battlestillborn is probable going to be as dead as evolve next month or so.
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>>146002827
t. Mei main
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>>146002495
>Pharah
Get into the practice range and work on leading your shots.

>D.va
Play her as a super mobile harass hero.
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>>146002635
Gearbox announced their game first.

Gearbox tried to release their game first.

Blizzard basically stole all hype and interest from them with the cinematic trailer, Gearbox marketing shoved all their effort into spamming the Overwatch Twitter feed instead of real marketing, Blizzard announced an open beta on Battleborn's launch date, and then moved up Overwatch's release date from late June.

Gearbox fucked up a lot of things, release schedule wasn't one of them. Blizzard just totally shat on them in that department.
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>>146002665
>low on fire time
>i was doing objectives!
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>>146002867
Are we talking consoles or pc? Torbjorn is annoying as hell to deal with on console and Symmetra is good because of shit map design.
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>>146002149
Yep brought it up to ~55% as well and then I end up going on a streak being matched with objectively shit people that just bought the game yesterday.
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>enemy Genji painstakingly built his ult
>RYUJIN NO KEN WO KURAE he yelled, but right after he finished flourishing his katana folded ten thousand times, a fat gaijin yanked him in on a chain and shot his face full of scrap
>poor Genji threw shuriken at enemy team to fill the few percent of ult charge this took from him
>with just seconds left to cap the important A point in the Temple of Anubis, Genji's team charged in
>Genji activated his powerful ultimate, brandished his katana and jumped into the fray
>right before slashing his first target to pieces he heard these words:
>PASS THROUGH THE IRIS
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>>146002713
Designed that way
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>>146002979
Nah. I dont play useless heros. Try again and maybe l2play better. faggot.
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What's it going to be /owg/?
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>>146003098
disappointment
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>>146002970
The guy who invented her time shift tech. He died before she could tell him she loved him, so now her time travel power is all she has of him, so she thanks him by name frequently
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>>146003092
t. Hanzo main
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>>146003045
just make it do 150 damage god damn
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Have I finally figured out how to go whole hog?
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>>146002682
You shake the controller and hope for the best. That's how every widowmemer that killed me did it atleast.
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>>146003098
gray gray blue gray
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>>146003098
3 whites and a blue
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>>146003098
three whites and one blue
all shit you don't want
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>>146001031
hehe....VERKING AS INTENDED!
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Who is Eugene?
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>4 votes on the card

everytime

fucking kill me
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>>146002758
>I can join games and people are invisible for a few minutes, or im invisible for the whole game.
Your computer is slow at loading models and other assets.

Could blame your HDD, gfx card, RAM, CPU.

Not a networking problem.
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>>146003098
gray gray blue gray
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>>146002972
The best part is they recently loosened the matchmaking so now most matches are all one sided stomps.
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>>146003098
grey
blue
pink
blue
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>>146003153
wow, I almost recognized one of the heroes among the pixels!
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>>146003153
>hooking a shield

Not yet. Call me when you hook a charging Reinhardt and then give him a face full of dakka
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>level 30
>3 duplicates from one box
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Things you won't see go
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It's Father's Day, where's all the Dad 76??
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>>146003098

Here we go!!!
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>>146003075
She has the most perfectly structured face.

Brown is beautiful!
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>>146003280
>not hooking his pocket when he drops his shield to firestrike
you are small time
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>>146003315
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me unga
team bunga

anyone else feel me?
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>>146002341
but what about night ops
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drinking a redline and playing Tracer while listening to a fast rock album is great fun lads

was getting pretty bored of the game but the teleporting Chav cunt is saving the day
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>>146002342
REEEEEEEE E E E E *EMP*
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>>146003152
FYI passing through the iris outheals Reaper and Honzo's ult so it'd have to be 200 to actually kill heavier targets while it's up.
And just like 150 per swing it's not going to happen.
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>>146003280
I've done that before, I'm just not good enough to be consistent with roadhog
I'm just glad I managed use his ultimate, which I constantly fuck up
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>>146003315
I want a pipe smoking grandpa 76 in a sweater and thick glasses
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>>146003098
>>146003329
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I want to fuck her
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>>146003448
Im always trying to pick something we need
Team always picks hanzo genji, bastion on attack or torbj on attack
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>>146003008
Not him but I think the Fire meter might be fucked on MO. I have Reinhardt below 50% even though I'm always on fire with him.
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>>146002308
Almost every single F2P game that makes money from microtransactions has a similar algorithm for matchmaking.

World of Tanks and all of it's spinoffs are the most obvious examples. It took a long time to discover exactly how it works in WoT because of how complex the ballistic system calculations are, and there are still deniers, but it's been proven that ricochet calculations and penetration rates are tied directly to the vehicles win %.
Even full unicum players have at best 60% wnr.
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nerf zarya right now or im leaving this game forever
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>>146003302
I used to see this a lot when people would go all Lucio on lijang tower.
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>>146003531
get in line
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>>146003528
WOOO JACKPOT!
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>>146003329
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>>146003531
C U T E
U
T
E
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>>146003278
Shh, i'm an idiot and record videos with obs and convert them with webmconverter
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>>146002589
>muh waifu
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any PC players here that care about achievements?
I'm 6 people short to make a group to help each other out.
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>>146002867
Of course Symmetra is situational. The situations you use her contribute a lot to a win, but not much out of that.
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>>146003008
>implying on fire time represent how much someone is doing objectives

w e w
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>>146003448

>Be lucio
>retards won't group with with you
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>>146003217
780, 16gb, i5, really shouldn't be a problem?
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>>146003695
>asks for group members
>doesn't post ID
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>>146002867
symmetra is objectively situational though
no smart players pick her on offense unless you're dicking around
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>>146002992

Gearbox had plenty of time to back off and they still wanted to stay the course.
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>>146002713
She just is

Literal perfection
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Think I'm starting to get burned out on this game. Every loss I'm noticing now is because teammates are still diving into the enemy without outputting any real damage. At this point, I would have to lose over 100 matches to get "forced 50", but matchmaking still giving me retards is worrisome.
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WHEN THE FUCK DO I GET THE ZARYA LEGENDARY I JUST WANT TO PLAY HER BUT SHE'S SO FUCKING UGLY
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>>146001663
where do i get an aimbot? I don't care anymore, if pro players can get away with it I can get away with it in fucking casual games as well
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>>146001879
McReee is for shitters

Like seriously - are they bad or did they over nerf this guy?
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>>146003330
The brown girls don't have enough lewds
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>>146003531
>you will never see Mei's chubby little belly jiggle as you fuck her
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>>146001252
I had around 5 yesterday.
Got a 45 eliminations game yesterday too.
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>>146003315
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Genji would be better if he was a melee character. Trying to hit with his dumb shurikens in a pain in the ass. Just let me rush in and cut people with my sword, fuck.
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>>146001116
Reaper is only a guaranteed counter against Mercy and Lucio if he uses his ultimate. I can take out flanking Reapers 7/10 times as Mercy. The other three times they fully retreat or burn their ultimate just for me.
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>>146003776
POST

S P E C C Y
P
E
C
C
Y
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I can't aim for shit, yet i want to play 76. Tips other than firing 4-5 shots at a time so i don't get recoil? i always try to stay mid-ish range and bail out when trouble is close
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>>146000520
You ignore two key factors
1. Blizzard has never given me a chance to play with players of any skill. I have literally never played a game of overwatch with more than a single competent team player outside of myself.

2. One player cannot turn the tide in a team oriented game like overwatch. It doesn't matter how many kills I get, or how much damage I deal, or how long I stay on the objective if I'm the only one who is doing anything remotely of value, because our Hanzo is diligently watching a wall or the tracer throws her bomb at the ground 20 feet away from the nearest enemy, then magdumps a Zarya with her shield up. Or my personal favorite, the Genji who sits next to the Widowmaker and tries to chip away at things he's not accurate enough to hit at 10 feet, let alone 50.

I know I'm not a very good player. But I know damn well that I'm the best I regularly play with because I'm constantly getting 4 golds as a Lucio
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>>146003153
Nope
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>>146003873
It's sad, isn't it?
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>>146003448
>Be Mercy
>Widow has 1 hp
>Won't go near ledge so I can heal
>She dies
>"Shit Mercy pls uninstall"
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>people on reddit and /owg/ saying that Torb needs a nerf
Jesus, just learn how to play the game.
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>>146001319
>get pissed about being put in ongoing games
>koth
>0-60
>go honzo
>miss every fucking arrow
>scatter into the air
>can't hit shit no matter what
>lose first round
>second round
>still can't hit anything that's not roadhog
>run in to shoot from a closer range and karate chop niggers
>die
>oh, ult's charged up
>shoot it in the general direction of the objective right from spawn
>team takes the point
>apparently enemy team used most ults pushing it when my dragon came from the wall
>win
>3rd round
>i am cqc honzo
>sit on point and shoot arrows
>still hit nothing
>still useless all game
>forget about wallhack arrow all the time
>gib an ulting reaper with scatter by accident
>ult towards enemy spawn
>VICTORY
I felt like shit after that.
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>>146002992
They should have waited. 6 months is just 6 months, you flop on release and your game is dead forever. Battleborn never had a fighting chance.
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>>146003949
>or burn their ultimate just for me.

This sounds romantic. Reaper x Mercy OTP.
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>Salty Genjis when I pick Mei and deny them the flank kills on our healer and Torb
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>>146002131
Every now and then I switch to widow because the enemy is cheesing with tobs and what not.

But there's also the enemy mcree, the enemy genji, the enemy winston and all that shit trying to kill you every second, and there's your team dying over and over to the fucking tob turret like fucking animals.

And then my team starts complaining about how I'm not sniping enough, when I'm fucking being camped right as I exit the spawn already and they're not doing that well either. People are so retarded everytime they lose they have to blame someone else for their mistakes, like that blue haired slut on life is strange.
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>>146003842
can you fuck off with your shitty webms
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>>146003930
Average Genji gameplay
>spend 2 minutes throwing shurikens into tank healed by support
>get enough for ult
>prepare to 1v6 just like all those leddit maymay videos
>RYUUJIN NO AAAUUGH
>blame team
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When you grab someone as a Roadhog, should I primary fire, or Alt fire?
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How can anyone be incredibad with Hanzi when his Scatter Arrow is basically free kills as long as you can simple geometry literally just shooe directly at someone's feet. You can even do these from 20m away.

I didn't even realize how useful his skills were as long as you keep using them on when they're off cooldown.

t. Was on fire half of the match because of this
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>>146003964
git gud

not actually a meme this time like there is no tip for aiming better besides aiming better
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>>146004096
Isn't Mercy responsible for what Reaper is now?
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>>146003930
This, this right here is why there's so many bad Genjis. The class is 99% consistently hitting with shurikens and pissing off the enemy team, but nobody wants to do it. The other 1% is getting POTG with a well timed Dragonblade.

I do think giving Genji a melee boost for backstab damage would be great, though.
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>>146001252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGqVcNKgUBY
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Perfect in every way
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>>146004060
>pick hanzo
You are shit
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>>146003954
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REMOVE OVERTIME
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>>146004048
the people on reddit are talking about on consoles exclusively.
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Is it possible to have a team that isn't complete shit?
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why is team always booga?
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>>146004048
Which heroes haven't been cried about for nerfs? D.Va?
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>>146004170
primary, aim at the head
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>>146004235
I don't play Hanzo. I got angry about yet another ongoing losing game since we got stomped bad in first round.
I felt like shit after it turned around though, but had to stay consistent.
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>>146004139
All these flavors and you choose to be salty
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>>146004170
Primary for close range, alt for med range

Alt is a ball that explodes into a shotgun blast at a certain range
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>>146001223
lmao, shitter can't counter a tracer as d.va Are you retarded anon?
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>>146004187
There's a word for relationships like that.
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>>146004170
primary is for short range, alt is for longer range. if you hit someone with the alt before it explodes into shrapnel it only does 50 damage.
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How do you know if you are high mmr or low mmr? The only thing that I have to go on is that people are willing to pick supports when I join a game and there isn't a bastion in every game I play.
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>>146004291
who knows. Reinhardt and Winston are fine though
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>>146004276
Tense as fuck Overtime battles with both teams desperately trying to clear the point are the best part of the game though
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>>146002992
Gearbox were too pussy to call their game a MOBA too, even though it almost definitely is one.

http://gamerant.com/battleborn-moba-gearbox-software-answer/

The game's biggest problem to me was that no one knew what the game actually was besides being filled with "2cool4school BADASS" characters and "gearbox-brand wacky humor XD". It's not your job to be scared of a few people discarding the game just on the pretense it's another ASSFAGGOTS, it should be to communicate what your game is.
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>get onto the point before time runs out
>not only am I on the point, but I've been there long enough to melee somebody
>DEFEAT
Every time
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>>146004414
>>146004369
>>146004328
Thanks. I'm still figuring out heavy characters
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>>146004470
It's also the worst experience in the game when the enemy team switches to like 2 tracers so they can stall the game.
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The game is perfectly balanced right now. Prove me wrong.
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>>146004276
Just change the meter so that instead of automatically refilling, it stops, then slowly builds back up.

There. Fixed Overtime.
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>>146004470
it gets a touch retarded higher up if the enemy team is worth a damn.

4 d.vas and a fucking lucio push in. our team still holding, but the cart stayed in overtime for 5 more minutes.
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>>146004417
if pic related is in your games you're in low mmr. if the game is actually just a VIP protection mission based around the widowmaker's in both teams then you're in high mmr.
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>>146003402
I want to fug D.va baby
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dear retards:

its okay to have two tanks
its okay to have two healers

we don't have to stick to one tank one support four damage like morons

if you pick mercy and i pick lucio that is not your queue to switch to fucking genji
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>>146004048
It's as if they don't know that he has a lot of counters in the game.

>>146004286
Because you're always ooga.
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>attacking hanamura b
>enemy team has 2 torb and a bastion
>bullets up out ass everytime we try to enter
>switch to Widowmaker
>repeatedly shoot down turrets and bastion ocassionally
>get called out for being shit
>they said i wasn't killing anyone and that i'm useless

I am by no means a good Widowmaker but holy shit, being Widowmaker is hard.
Hanzo has it easier.
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>Tfw boost punching people off the map as Dva

The best is when boost punching gets you the kill, they go flying
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>>146000759
>this one guy in every thread trying to force le "toxic"-meme
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>>146002827
OP here, how do I counter her? During some matches it feels like even Zarya isn't enough.
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>>146004572
>Prove me wrong.

Several other players ere able to kill me yesterday.
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>>146000759
>implying Lego games aren't fun
>thanks for suggesting such a good idea, I'll play a lego game, since they're more fun, and it doesn't have toxic players
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>>146004354
what flavors? the fuck are you talking about sperg
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>>146003805
>>146004061
Delaying the release probably would've been signaling defeat to Blizzard and nobody would've taken the game seriously then. They were probably doomed the moment Blizzard announced Overwatch but they decided to keep going.

At least by launching first, they might've had a chance at collecting a dedicated playerbase. But nope, OPEN BETA. Even got shat on in the console department which was their main priority demographic.


This is why you get a marketing department that does more than spam COME AT ME BRO at Blizzard when you're in direct competition. Waste of money.
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>>146004721
>Zarya isnt enough

jesus christ dude. How bad are you. You can fucking rape Mei with Zarya, Pharah and even Mccree if your aim is god
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Happy Father's Day.
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>>146004096
Was waiting for this edit
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>put pulse bomb on mei iceblock
>it falls through the fucking map
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How do I git gud with pharah On console
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>Fucking retards on Defense that don't contest the fucking point, but shoot at the people capping it from the outside
JUST FUCKING TOUCH IT, FAGGOT

JUST FUCKING TOUCH IT
"But Anon I'll die..."
YEAH
BUT YOU'LL FUCKING
L O S E
O
S
E
IF YOU DON'T
FUCKING
TOUCH
IT
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>>146004721
Want to piss Mei off, play Pharah

From a Mei main who hates those shit eating flies that rain justice on me all the time
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>>146004237
Yeah I got nothing, was going to blame your HDDs since you didn't mention them earlier but they don't look like they have an I/O bottleneck.

Usually it only takes a couple seconds for me to load everything if I even notice at all. If it takes forever for you, something's wrong with your computer and it's hard to diagnose via texting on 4chan.
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>>146004790
>spam COME AT ME BRO at Blizzard

WHY
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>>146004813
Bad enough that I can't play for shit with Bastion and Reinhardt.

I just don't understand why, while having +50 energy, 4 zarya mouse2s don't do shit against mei. And even if they do she just freezes herself and my energy is much lower by the time she finishes.
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>>146004781
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Can D.Va still be one shot? If so, by what?
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What's the point of going hueg mouse sensitivity and doing this instead of tracking targets with a low sens?

Is it for youtube kill montages?
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>>146005031
these transitions make me wanna vomit
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>>146004829
>Don't see Dad that often
>Email him and ask if he wants to go out for lunch for Father's Day
>Still no response

A-At least I have you faggots.
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>>146004925
>On console
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>>146004048
console dwarf is OP because shitters and analog sticks aim like they are trying to drive themselves with selfie sticks.

Most redditors are either console fags, or pc fags who can't cut it to do anything but post about it.
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>>146004032
Literally use your mic to tell them to move towards you or uninstall because you're useless
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>>146004829
Why does it seem that images like this always end up in rough sex is it because i'm a sexually repressed homo with a lack of a father figure?
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>>146005065
triggerbots
also that's not really huge sens
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>>146005048
Yes, by D.Va.
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What does BAMF stand for?
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>>146003741
>doesnt know objectives gives more fire than kills
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>>146005156
>Unboxing the no pulse animation
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>>146004587
And guess what counters Bastion shield
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>>146005098
I'm poor, anon. The last time I got close to rejoining the master race more important things came up
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>All these people complaining about Mei
How low are these peoples' MMR? I always wonder just how deep in the trench you have to be to actually see Mei picked often or getting more than 6 elims and stomped mercilessly.
>Can go bake a pizza pie in the time it takes for her to elim somebody
>primary fire requires her to be in the enemy team's face
>ult is extremely telegraphed and only good for stalling
>ice wall can hurt your own team often
>self heal/secondary fire are the only parts of her kit that's of any use, but secondary is too slow to justify using her
Buff Mei's secondary and she might be worth a pick sometimes.
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>>146003315
I only care about one daddy
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>traveling to Hanamura
>prepare to attack
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if you only play offence (especially only genji) you are a fag

prove me wrong
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>>146004682
You were useless. You should have been Scrap Weasel or Phara and killed the turrets and the Toblerones at the same time. Instead you wasted your time. Don't give any quarter to Hanzos. He is played by weeb shitters.
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>>146004957
Image doesn't make sense. Tracer completely obliterates Mei.
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>>146005204
Blown away massive faggot.
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>>146005096
Call your dad right now, faggot. Stop waffling around and call your dad.
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>>146004490

Yeah, this attitude is why they got into a fight with Overwatch in the first place.

When you actually boil everything down, it's real direct competition is fucking Smite. That should have been easy.
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>>146005065
He's probably used to high sensitivity and has developed twitch shooting skills, so why would he switch?
You don't need proper tracking with a burst weapon.
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>>146005204
Balls Around My Face
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>>146005204
Bad Ass Mother Fucker from that shitty movie from beloved hack director, Pulp Fiction
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>>146005204
Big ass meme freak
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>>146005048
D.Vas mech can be oneshot by another d.va's ult.

D.va without mech can be oneshot by simply thinking about shooting at her.
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>>146005096
Call him. Emails are a shitty form of communication
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>>146005150
Probably. Soldier 76 and D.Va have nothing of the sort going on, you freak.
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>>146005204
bad ass motherfucker
and it's pretty lame if you think mccree is based by clint eastwood MWNN
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>>146005204
It's the western version of pomf
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what is the game trying to tell me?
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Anybody have their ranked/comp team worked out already? What role are you playing?

I think I've got a solid lineup, but we haven't figured out who's going to play what role yet. The biggest issue is that we don't have anybody who actually wants to main support, which means somebody's gonna get forced into it.

Also, for those with more experience of competitive play in games like this, what character role does the IGL/caller usually play? I have a feeling that job is going to be mine.
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>>146005204
badass mofo
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>>146001967
I legitimately feel sad about this game. I've seen some videos, and despite it being a little ugly, the game seems good, and I would play it.

But since it has no players, I don't think I'll ever buy it.
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>>146005024
ebin memes

From a marketer's point of view, you want the most people to notice your name and brand, so sticking your name in shit large amounts of people might see as much as possible is considered good marketing practice. Usually this takes the form of newsletters, corporate sponsorship, loud proclamations of supporting FOTM charities, etc. Gearbox decided all they needed to do was spam Overwatch's Twitter feed because it has more followers than their own.
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>>146005204
Big Angry Meme Fiend
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>>146005204
It's the sound Nightcrawler makes when he teleports; McCree is a huge X-men fan.
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>>146005204
Bad aim, might fall.
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>>146005204
Big ass male fleshflute
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>>146005204
Blueberries Annihalate My Face. He's allergic, you see.

>>146005341
Just like Zenyatta, then.
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>>146005453
To poo the loo up to the brim.
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When do you think we'll get new skins?
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>>146005476
Can someone explain the Twitter feed thing? What Happened
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>completely fucking obliterate attacking team
>they capture A after extended over time
>they get off ONE good ult and just rush B and win

This fucking game
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>>146005283
Mei's weakness is having to fight 2 or more people at once.

Most people who complain about her are shitters who play Genji and try to do everything on their own. Also people who don't understand how counters work.
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How many shekels have you put into the skinner box?
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>>145985375

Thanks I'll add those to hers.

>>145985704

Thanks, I'll use that

>>145985197

I thought about adding him but not always the right choice. Maybe I'll add him with a 'low elo' annotation?

>>145985261

I don't really play him, so I'm kind of going on other people's opinions really. Sorry, I'll try to make them as accurate as possible.

>>145985308

I just copied what the only guy who replied to me said. Feel free to post your own list of whocounterswho and I'll take it into account.

>>145985645

photoshop. I can upload the psd if you like. It's all set up to easily make more.

-

Reuploading it so the new thread can have a look. Please reply with any lists of who counters who, who's good on what, etc. I'll take your lists into account when making the rest (and I'll fix this Bastion one, it's just a prototypehaha funny cuz robot ah..) Oh and do you guys think I should add a few tips at the bottom or more text? Maybe "always good on" and "situational"
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>>146005575
Summer.
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>>146005621
Friendly reminder to filter this piece of shit.
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>>146002054
>pick 76
>lose
>5 gold medals
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>>146005575
Probably next month.

>>146005621
Her weakness is bullets, just like every other flanker. She and Reaper are surprisingly squishy when you face six people shooting you.
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>>146004957
Thanks. The one time I did appreciate Mei was when she froze 4 enemy players contesting our point and I blew them all up with a swift rip-tire.
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Are there any stats on which side wins on each map? It seems that defense wins a lot more often on control point maps.
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>>146002635
TFW u realize talking shit constantly to a bigger company that can afford to change release schedules was a mistake.
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>be me
>go lucio on volcyka industries attack to have some top shelf fun and be credit
>last point gets choked heavily
>they get a Winston who suddenly starts tickling me while i'm on the open field right in front, while i'm all alone
>insta stress-out and dash back with a speedboost
>tickling stops and i make it back to the forklift
>ohbabyit'stripple.jpg
>suddenly hear: "RRRAAAH!" followed by a loud boom
>tickling commences again
>JUST
>die a second later
There is no escape from the gr8 ape
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Should Overwatch go full comic books and give us heroes that don't use guns but have innate powers? Zenyatta is probably the closest
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>>146005646
D.Va's defense matrix lets anyone just walk up and kill him.
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>>146005621
Mei doesn't have a counter except Pharah, Widow and Junkrat who can blow her ass up from a distance. The other 17 heroes are her bitches.
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>>146001967
why didnt they just delay the release by 6 months or so? Such a moronic decision by gearbox to directly compete with one of the most hyped games of the fucking year and release it at the exact same time.
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>>146004207
>if you feel about yourself and get killed a lot, just switch to bastion and play against ez bots

why the fuck did you just make me watch this video anon?
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>>146005734
if you dont blitz through point B immediately after A and get it at least 66% full youre practically guaranteed to lose
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>>146001956
It's something that they say in Dota. It doesn't really translate well to a FPS.
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Do they do character balance via hotfixes on PS4 or something?

McMeme and Blueberry have been nerfed on console but there was never a patch.
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>>146005096
>sending emails to your father
Jesus, just call him.
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>>146005692
>he thinks filtering one person will stop the healslut meme

filter me and 2 others will take my place
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>enemy has two bastions and a Reinhardt covering them
>this one guy insists on playing Genji because he "hard counters" bastion
>all he does, ALL HE DOES is run straight in front of the two bastions who are covered by the fucking shield, hit E, and die
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>>146001967
I really can't think of any big release that has tanked on the level of Battleborn.

TORtanic maybe, but this feels 100x worse for whatever reason. TORtanic took a while to sink, BB just got nuked from orbit and all the survivors are irradiated and floating on the remnants.
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>>146002635
>Overwatch open beta right on Battleborn launch

Absolute mad men they were
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>>146001017

DELETE THIS HERO
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>>146005747
fuck off with that cape shit

>>146005778
battleborn was going to be shit either way, the aesthetic is awful, gearboxs shooting is awful and every character constantly screams meme trash
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After losing 20 straight games, I am now a believer that Blizzard is stacking games to enforce a 50% win rate
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>>146000734
hope this helps
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this gosu weekly is hilarious, sodipop are just getting erased
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>>146004790

Nah, fuck that, the release window was too close, Even disregarding open beta, they should have seen the writing on the wall. And delaying the release may have made them look week, but it also would have given them a chance to polish the game and give it an advertising campaign that accurately depicts the gameplay and sell it as a MOBA.
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>>146005770
in a 1v1, yeah i agree. But this game isn't always 1v1s. You're only Mei's bitch if she catches you alone, and if she does that then she's doing her job and you need to sort out your positioning.
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>"Hanzo, at your service"
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>>146001017
I'm the Widowmaker in your games who misses every shot.

Yes, it hurts me, too. I'm very sorry.
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>>146006078
Then play McREE.
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>>146001017
>Get killed by a hanzo
>Kill came
>He's just spamming arrows in my general direction
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>>146005897
Daikatana. Kek
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>>146005576
Gearbox tweets come a me bro to Blizzard thinking it will get them some much needed exposure.

Blazzerd responds with see you in May

Blizzard moved their open beta weekend up to Battleborns' release window.
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>>146005315
Depends if Mei can land a headshot on her, freezing Tracer is very difficult and is only doable if you manage to put a wall behind her and make her waste her blinks backing up
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>>146005747
Tracer comes close to that as well.
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>>146006045
Question unrelated to the discussion, are you the same healslut from killing floor general?
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>>146006045
>literally the same argument as mccree

i agree with you btw
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>>146001017
The first or the second one?
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How long does it take for the leaver penalty to wear off? It's been like two days.

Does getting kicked for inactivity count as a leave?
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>>146005951
Soldier 76 is literally a concept metzen took from Grant Morrison, a Cape comic writer. This game has cape comic influence like it or not
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so when are they fixing overtime?
that shit is fucking cancerous, it does not need to reset every single time some faggot playing tracer blinks in for a quarter second
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>steamroll the offense team
>they start leaving/giving up

I dont feel good about this at all
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Widowmaker is so fucking crazy compared to the TF2 Sniper, oh my god

You don't have to unscope between shots? Insane. And your full shot charges so fast.

AND your submachine gun is actually good and viable for close-range combat.
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>play mercy
>get flanked by a fucking roadhog all game
>pops up behind us over and over, hooks and instakills me
>team doesn't listen when i warn them in chat
>no one protects me
>no one chases roadhog off
>fuck it, switch to reaper
>WHERE DID OUR HEALER GO

literally what kind of retard selective hearing is this
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>>146006078
Ten shots, one kill.
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Has anyone documented any/all of McCree anon's past poetry? I'd love to read the ones I've missed.
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>>146006152
Why is this image backwards? Have you been reading too much manga?
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>>146004957
>JUSTICE FROM A-
>*cryofreezes*
heh nothing personal
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>>146006129
This along with Widow one shotting me after missing 5 times were the reasons I turned off killcam
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>>146006042
Also didn't help that their release price tag was $59.99 + $40 season pass DLC.

After TPS' major flop, nobody was going to buy into that shit anymore.

So many possible failures converging onto one product, it's truly fascinating.
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These casters are biased as fuck on luminosity
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So who are generally considered bad heroes for competitive for 1 reason or another? Mei, Hanzo, Roadhog, Genji, D.va and Bastion?
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>have bastion selected
>game says "low team damage"

Good meme Overwatch.

I love Bastion to death. I really need to learn to reposition more though. I have a bad habit of sticking to the same spot a lot (to be fair, you can easily get away with it on certain maps). I also need to stop trying to get close to people when fighting one on one in recon mode, it just gets me killed when I can walk away and heal or fight at mid range.
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>>146006152
What the fuck did Gearbox think will happen with that COME AT ME BRO shit.
They should fire their marketing shitters for this.
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>>146005283
Mei's secondary is pretty great if you can aim
Mei is a bitch to play against as the kinds of heroes i normally play but if you just group up mei can't do shit, and if you have any kind of escape she can't do much either

Her ult is annoying as fuck though, even if it's probably just a worse zarya ult
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>>146005965
why does tracer counter twice
is this a recall meme
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>>146006363
any character that can't kill fast
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>>146006072
>"Genji is with you"
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>>146006254
Y-yeah... 10 shots.

>>146006120
I've thought about it, but I still want to try and be somewhat competent with one of the two snipers.
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>>146006345
>team that is 10 times better than some literal whos that named their team after sodapoppin
>"wowwww so biased"
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>>146006176
post-patch mcree loses more 1v1s

Mei can get into her ice block and survive even after flash + fan the hammer

also tanks are better against mcree now (which they should be imo)
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>>146006334
They also really overestimate how funny their schtick is. I'm one of the few people who actually liked it in BL2, but I can't stand any of the dialogue in Battleborn.
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>>146000846
>there are people who still don't believe in forced 50
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>>146006483
>that feel when I've noticed that I kill a lot more McCree's than I used to.
>start to feel a little bad for him
>then remember I'm a tank and I should be able to beat his little faggot ass down.

does he even lift?
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>>146003842
Can you please stop posting your webMs with these shitty transitions?
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>>146006520
Maybe you're just incredibly average.
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>Blizzard afraid from showing premades because no one would play against these niggers
ebin
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can we get a pastebin with the best overwatch related artists?
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>>146003842
Mcree is a good counter to a lot of the other offense while also being strong against the healers. He's still good.
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>Having fun playing with a group of randoms on Mumble/TS/Discord
>Suddenly get one bad game
>"Eh I think that's enough for me today"

And this is how you identify shitters
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>>146006152
Did the retards at Gearbox genuinely think that they had a chance against Blizz?

Like, I get that you need to be confident in your game/brand and all that, but seriously, what were they expecting?

You can have all the bravado you want, but when you go toe-to-toe in a fist fight and your opponent outweighs you by 100 pounds, has 10 inches of reach and has been sparring at top levels for 15+ years and you just learned how to put on a pair of gloves, you may need to step back and reevaluate what you are doing.
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>>146006406
Actual marketingfag here, they knew the game was already dead and in a last ditch effort, appealed to the lowest common denominator with memes (fanservice is also quite good for getting people to defend your games no matter how terrible it is)
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>>146005965
I really appreciate people spreading this meme. It encourages shitters to think that they can run up into my face at shoot me while I fucking destroy them with my guns.
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>>146006520
>put against equal skilled opponents by match making standards
>but I want to pub stomp :(
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>>146006152
>a penguin piloting a robot
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>>146006520
I-I'm gonna make it
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>>146006454
>"Tracer here!"
>we already have 1 tracer and 1 genji
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>enemy starts stacking Junkrat
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>>146001967
> tfw loved the Battleborn beta but knew there was no way it would live after OW came

Seriously though, David didn't kill Goliath in hand-to-hand combat, he sat back and threw rocks from a distance until he saw an opportunity. Battleborn tried to square up with Overwatch and got knocked the fuck out
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>>146003817
find some friends to play with m8
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>50% kill participation as junkrat
>The torb with 10 kills gets the commendation

>Top shielding as Reinhardt
>Half-assed mcree with 10 objective kills gets commendation

Commendation system will never ever let me win. If I wreck as junkrat, the Reinhardt gets it. If I tank as Reinhardt, the shitty torb gets it.
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>sodipop reaper ults
>kills nobody, ends up behind a wall
>luminosity reaper ults three seconds later
>kills half the team, wins the round
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>someone picks torbjorn in attack
>switch to your designated low-stats hero
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>>146006520
I'm beating the system
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I'm not sure if they nerfed mcree too much or i just need to re-learn him.

i got so used to the infamous combo
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>>146000759
> tfw play on console w/ no bantz from the other team

boy i miss PC gaming sometimes.
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>>146006572
Well I could make a webm of me shitting all over Soldier 76 every time - but won't it look bad to have multiple scenes without the transitions?
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How the fuck do you play Lucio

He gets chewed up so quick because everyone focuses you and even full speed boost the Winston will still catch you
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>>146006751
>>146006631
They shouldn't have made it a competition. It's not 100% their fault but that "Come At me Bro" shit was asking for trouble.
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>>146006851
>designated low-stats hero
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>>146006363
roadhog and genji are played by a couple of people that can pull it off but they arent very popular overall, while dva and bastion are usually used in only specific situations

I dont think ive ever seen a hanzo in pro play
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>>146006771
start making your own standards
dont let the game decide what good gameplay is
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>other team has 3 tanks
>cant do anything to them
>perhaps i'll try the character thats actually intended to kill these fat fucks
>reaper cuts through fatties in like 3 shots and then can just invuln away while eating souls

at last i truly see

so long mccree
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>>146005215

On-fire is genuinely a badly thought out mechanic and literally tells you nothing except that your team isn't killing the enemy team enough.
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>>146006728
Start stacking Pharah then
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>>146006771
Just pick Symmetra and you'll get on the board every time with turret kills.
>>146006861
> tfw 56% win rate after 500 games

we're all gonna make it
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>>146006363
This is just before the patch
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>>146006874
>tfw suddenly you hear someone on a mic

I'm level 81 right now and I've heard maybe 10 people talk in all this time.
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>>146006880
are you autistic or something?

if you want to make shitty little montages go do them for youtube, no one here gives any kind of a shit
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Widow should have had a shitty pistol for close combat
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>>146006631
>Did the retards at Gearbox genuinely think that they had a chance against Blizz?
Considering it's Gearbox, probably. They aren't exactly brilliant over there, you can see that in their releases over the past 6 or 7 years. They got lucky with one product, milked it, and everything else was trash.
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>>146006880
the transitions are really fucking stupid but that perfect loop made me hard
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>>146006880
if you have to put multiple scenes together, your "play" probably wasn't very noteworthy / worth sharing.
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>That fucking match I had in kings row
>That overtime clutch victory on defense

Holy fuck that was amazing.

I want more pubs like this.
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>>146006940
>*wheeze beind u*
>*hook u*
>heh heh heh
>*one shot u in face*
>nothing personnel m8
>*huff paint*
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>>146007019
>lucio isnt at the top

literally had a higher pickrate than mccree
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>>146007019

>Mei

How is she so low? People complained about Mei being OP all the time in beta.
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>>146006923

There is a Hanzo literally being played right now.
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>>146007154
she's terrible in a format with tight communication and teamwork. she can only pick off loners which is never gonna happen.
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>>146005770
Reaper.

All you need is to get in one good shot to start her death throes.

As a Reaper, I usually avoid 1v1s with Meis but eventually I have to deal with her. I usually wait for her to engage a different teammate, get a good meatshot or two in her. But that doesn't always happen because Mei mains are self-deluded tryhards who think their hero actually matters so she'll probably come at me herself during or after I pick off her teammates.

Now either she'll have a teammate show up to help when I shoot her - which I don't give a shit about, turn around to face me, freeze herself, or ice wall / run off.

Regardless of what she does, if I'm intervening in a teammate's death that teammate is now saved and has a chance to wear off the ice and come back to help me. If she's trying to hunt me down, that is one less Mei my team can give a shit about because a 5v5 without a Mei is probably easier on my team than 6v6 with.

Half the time, I usually starting losing the fight because Mei only needs 1 second of w+m1 to freeze me and/or she might have teammates so I usually wraith form out, get onto a health pack or soul, then go back to shooting her when she thinks she's going to win when I re-engage her half-HP ass. Then I collect her soul, and move onto the next enemy.

Accuracy is an important part of success when fighting Mei, one missed shot means a 50% increased chance of death because you'll have no escape for that second freeze. Fighting Meis is frustrating not because they are good, but because you clearly could've not missed the past several shots and killed her first. This made me up my game and try harder at aiming because nothing makes you feel like shit more than a smug Mei icicling you after freezing you.

Mei is basically a shitty Roadhog. She has one get-out-jail-free heal and is an armourless meat pinata who does subpar damage and can't handle sustained fire to the face in a close fight. She only wins against shitters.
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>>146007154
Mei isn't OP, just annoying as fuck to play against (and with)
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man Lucio is fun as fuck
He's actually a support hero who is also combat effective
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>>146006882
Learn to wallride. Learn to wallride really, really well.

You need to be able to get from ground floor, to the top of buildings. You need to be able to jump through windows. You need to be able to jump off the map and wall ride back up (it's great when the enemy stops chasing you because they think you fell off). You need to learn to alternate between speed and healing, even if you just use speed for a quick second
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>>146006728
>Start stacking Pharah
>Never stop flying the friendly skies achieving aerial superiority
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>>146007107
I'd hug Roadhog and Junkrat.
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>>146007154
she's just annoying and people confuse that with op
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>tfw finally tried and, more importantly, stuck with Zarya
Shield our Lucio and myself just as Pharah ults
>Get 100 charge
>Melt through thanks
>Double kills with M2

AT LAST I SEE

SUCH POWER

IN MY HANDS ALL ALONG
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>>146007019
>I regularly play 4 out of 6 F-tier heroes
Everybody probably hates me
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>>146006751
The worst part is that they could have possibly avoided all the bad press/comments about the games being similar if they had just kept their mouth shut and developed a good game.
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>>146007154
if your rely on abilities working, youre screwed
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>>146007249

Nevermind, he switched to McCree.
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>>146006194
It's number of games, not number of days.

>>146006229
Not unscoping after every shot isn't that special, plenty of other shooty games have that for their snipers. TF2 sniper just never has more than one round chambered.
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>>146006851

>designated low-stats hero
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>>146007107
if you bait the hook or just avoid it hes literally a free kill as reaper.
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>>146007301
>trying to connect to winston's moonbase
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I'm that guy that leaves the game when the team is losing, not always, but enough to be on penalty most of the time.

Is there any penalty besides the lost XP? It doesn't mess with my winrate, right?
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>>146007136
That's because double lucio was being used so much on KOTH, that list is taking into account the 1 hero limit they're testing right now
>>146007154
Only bad people complain about Mei being OP. There was literally only single week where Mei was anything but shit tier. She was B tier in the week where they buffed her secondary fire, then when they shat on it again she went straight back to shit tier.
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>>146007305
I feel like I'm doing something wrong. Even with lots of charge I feel like I do NO DAMAGE as Zarya.
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>>146007338
I don't even know those other two titles
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>>146007085
well shit nigga - turn off every webm unless they start with a 5 seconds of a character standing under the text "Play of the game" so you don't waste your time
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>>146007317

Same, I am glad someone posted the tier list so I can stop playing those characters and play ones that other people like to play with.
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>>146007305
>Ult the entire team
>Lazer at 100% power
>Cut through em like butter

Zarya is one of the most fun heroes.
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>>146003842
>>146006880
>these transitions
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>engage trashmouse at long range
>he sits in cover and spams grenades at you
>engage trashmouse at close range
>he throws a mine in your face and you die
>engage trashmouse in enclosed spaces
>he fills the room with grenades and you die
>engage trashmouse in open spaces
>he minejumps away
When are trashmousefags going to admit that their favorite character is shamelessly OP?
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>keep getting hanamura in attack
please stop, I just want to have fun
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>>146007021
I got lucky and gathered a few people together for matchmaking. Just kept my headset in and if someone started talking we eventually grouped.

The game is infinitely better when grouped
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>>146006194
>Does getting kicked for inactivity count as a leave?

I too would like to know.
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>level 65
>still get people on teams who refuse to understand that having both a tank and a healer can be very vital
>"fuk u i get kills i killer"

when does this shit stop
and yes my win rate is positive
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>>146007401
if you get hooked just shift away
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>>146006880
What software do you use for editing? I need something that's not a command line or a pirated copy of Adobe Premiere Pro and haven't really been able to find anything decent.
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>>146007517
you just need to get good!
Junkrat isn't OP
leave Junkrat alone!
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>>146006726
>"Widowmaker here"
>we already have a hanzo and widowmaker
>WE'RE ON FUCKING OFFENSE
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>Get PotG as Lucio, featuring me wall riding back from certain death at the beginning.
>only vote card on my team with 35% team damage. TEAM DAMAGE.
>no votes
JUST
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>>146006592
I've read that as overwatch related autists. Might have to do something with the image.
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>>146005747
To be honest, I think they'll have to if they want to have anything unique at all, they'll run out of different ways of spitting bullets at each other.

Or have weapons that are non-bullety.
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>>146007305
Zarya is very stronk and I love it.
I always play her when we need a tank.
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Reminder there's no such thing as a good Hanzo, only a lucky one.
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>>146007591
how to identify a retard that doesn't know what he's talking about
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>>146007476
You realise the only person posting shitty mini webM montages is (You) right? Everything else ITT is actually interesting to watch even if they're not POTGs.
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question for lorefags: why is reinhardt the way he is

does he have brain damage
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>>146007154
Because a huge amount of the people in these threads are literal garbage and have the audacity to complain about their 50% win rate.
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GUYS IM PLAYING SYMETTRA EVERY GAME AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME
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>>146007154
I don't know about OP but she's fucking annoying. This character is literally a shitpost given physical form.
>can't aim? You don't have to, your weapon slows mouse movement and running speed
>want to piss off everybody, regardless of team? ICU WALL COMING AHP
>oh fuck someone's outplaying me good thing I can go into an invincible ice cube that heals me AND contests points
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Where are envyus and c9? Why aren't in this tournament?
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>Hollywood
>Torbjorn turret on moving platfofrm
>Other Tobjorn turret on the balcony beside it
>No one either takes a different route or actually does anything about the turrets

No one should be losing to this.
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>>146007736
Because he's an uncucked German that's 7'2"
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>>146007517
Leave wasterodent alone!
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>random has been locking genji all game for 4 games now
>attack defense koth you name it
>liejin round 2
>he's not even moving
>sits on a rock and moves a bit every minute or so
>call him out
>pic related
Wew lads.
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>esports players can't even jump right
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>>146007686
>try playing other characters I like
>the moment the team stalls I switch to Zarya
>we steamroll through any opposition

Honestly, I really wish I could carry my team like this as Winston.
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>>146007585
obviously
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>>146007736
When you are 61 and been to many wars it is a miracle you don't end up in a mental house
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>>146007650
Is he on fire?
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>>146007768
we had a symmetra on koth who was credit to the team. voidray is p.good in confined spaces
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If you're playing anyone other than Reaper and a Winston jumps even near you might aswell stand still

Fucking bullshit cunt should be deleted
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>>146007517
> he can't dodge a line of rat pellets flying and landing in the same location every time

I bet you get hit by Symmetra orbs too
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>>146007452
Would there even be a change to her to make her better in competitive but not as annoying to deal with

Her viability the higher MMR i get makes me question continuing to play her
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>>146007517
Bonjour. I hear you have a rodent problem.
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>>146007695
There is such a thing as a good Hanzo
>Good Hanzo
-Relies HEAVILY on his abilities, knows that his bow is weak
-Spams the shit out of scatter arrow every time it's up, knows the bounce trajectory and gets lots of kills with it
-Properly places sonic arrows for free wallhacks
-Positions themselves well for ult, times it well instead of just wasting it for no reason
>Bad Hanzo
-Actually thinks their styrofoam tube shooter is good
-Spams arrows through a chokepoint and never moves
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>>146005364
>>146005324
>>146005838
I normally email him because he's pretty bad about answering his phone.

Regardless, I just tried. No answer.
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>>146005646
For Bastion:
Put him as situational attack for payload, he can be good with team support.
Put him as a counter to tracer
Put him as countered by snipers

Put a "strong with" option adding rein, torb, mercy, and symmetra.
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>>146007850
>>we steamroll through any opposition
Happens to me way too often and gives me the false sense of being a tit bit good. Sorry ot hear about Winston not being as good though.
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>>146007712
haha share your super interesting content then
better yet link some awesome webm you already posted in this thread
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>>146007517
t. 200hp baby
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>>146007736
Wants to relive his glory days, buy Torbjorn does ask if he has brain damage. He also pictured some street gang as giant dragons while fighting them.
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how do you /mute all like in league of legends?
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>>146007736
My question is, why is he such a big guy?
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>>146007338
Gigantic gives me an animation-boner the same way Overwatch does
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Feels good when you are solo queuing as a Mercy and pull off an amazing game where you are keeping everyone alive, and then right at the end land an amazing rez in overtime on the point for the win.

And then both teams say gg rez potg
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>>146007823
They play in the 15k onog tourney /onenationofgamers. Also looks like c9 are dodging since 1 hero limit shit started.
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>Temple of Anubis
>play Symmetra
>we lose the first point
>Oh well, I can still put up turre-
>see Widowmaker standing there- at the entrance
>for a microsecond I stop, confused and afraid
>get headshotted
>respawn
>well, they can't be that fast
>step out and get killed again
>DEFEAT pops up right after I step out
>J-just how? HOW?
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Let's be real and discuss hitboxes for a second; everybody goes on about how big they are but when you consider how slow non-hitscan weapons are combined with fast-moving characters, is it really so much of a crutch?

Hanzo is the most picked on for this but he's also a shit-tier hero at the same time.
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>>146008010
I've seen Winston's be super clutch, and I think I just try to go too deep most of the time.

But with Zarya I can hold a line so long as I have some kind of sacrificial team mate there to take a shield and keep me at 70+
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>>146007546
I don't doubt it.

I've played the game solo 99.9% of the time because the few times I've tried an LFG I get mil-sim autists that just bark orders without being decent themselves.

So it's between dealing with mouthbreathers for a team or having 16 year old kids yell orders and "pro strats" at me for an hour.
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>mccree still picked
>widow still picked
>d. va still not picked and useless

Nice nerfs and buffs, blizzard
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>>146007947
Reverting back the buff to her secondary fire would make her viable in comp without making her too much more annoying in pubs because pubs can't aim.

She's getting 24/7 complained about in pubs as it is though, she probably needs a complete rework
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>>146007842
gotta play other games during queue like all the streamers do ;)
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>22 wins 26 losses today
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>>146008163
They didn't buff D.Va you retard
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>>146005646
How many of these have been made? Because they're really good!
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>>146007046
If Blizzard was Disney, Gearbox would be a youtube channel, like filthy frank or something around that popularity level.

So expect marketing and production values to be around that level.
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>>146002867

When Torb wins its in low tier MMR where defense is favored and you see multiple Torbs on the defending team.

This will inflate his winrate as crazy.
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>>146008187
must be nice
i went 2-19 yesterday
forced 50 is a motherfucker
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>>146007927
I shit on Winstons with Roadhog. Also mei can kill him pretty easily and so can 76 if he gets dem headshots and guaranteed helix missiles on him. If you are Reinhardt then just pin his fatass, firestrike, and hammer him for the kill.Winston's gun isn't that great.
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>>146008163
What does a character being picked or not have to do with if a rebalancing worked or not? The point isn't to make it so no one plays them/everyone plays them.
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>>146008135
His wallhack and ult are still useful plus you can simplegeometry someone from time to time.
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>>146000759
>being legitimately angered over 4 letters that don't even spell out a real word
I type that shit out after winning in overtime
I type shit out when I lose
what's wrong with these people?
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>>146008057
You have to go into your social tab, go to groups, and click all the icons to turn them off.
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>>146007947
her loadout needs to not exist

simply changing numbers isnt going to be good for anybody

mccree has a similar problem in that his stun and right click is too one dimensional and retarded
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>>146007154
shes a tank without tank things ie health
imagine how shitty winston would be with 250 health, thats mei
also shes one of the only characters in the game thats an active detriment when played poorly, having a bad mei is literally worse than having an empty slot
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>>146007686
>The person representing me is even junkrat

This hit too close
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>there are still retards who want DVa buffs

Maybe just small adjustment of critical damage area. Otherwise just fucking git gud.
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>>146007768
> implying thats bad
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>>146008245
apparently for console friends he's legit cancer though. can anyone confirm?
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>>146007927
It's only 60dps. You can easily just walk out of his LoS cone and make him chase you with occasional tickles.

If you were talking about Symmetra's 120dps laser, we'd have something to agree on.
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>>146008209
Exactly
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>>146007850
Winston can't necessarily carry your team unless there's another tank on your team to provide them with cover while you distract and disrupt the enemy.
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>>146007639
>"Death walks among you"
>The only tank in the enemy team is Zarya
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>luminosity finally won the weekly
>but only because C9 and Envy weren't there
lol

I mean, I love Seagull to death so I'm happy for them, but still.

Kinda sad that the 3 teams are so much above everyone else right now though.
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>3 prestiges on the enemy team and they can't break through double torb on hollywood
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>>146007736
He's the last uncucked German left.
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>>146007927
t. widow mains
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>>146008382
He's pretty shitty to go against on console, but so are the console players in general.

Here's a heartwarming story from the other day

> playing in 5 man premade
> go up against 5 torbs 1 mercy on Volskaya
> Having a rough time with it, never figured out how to beat torb troll comps before
> we go 5 Dva 1 Mercy
> Cap first point in about a minute, steamroll point B for a victory

One of the most satisfying moments yet
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>>146007712
anything? No? A conversation? Eh?
Alright senpai - way to contribute to the thread. I'm off to socialize now enjoy stressing out about other people's webms.
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>>146007768
if you play symmetra on offense I'm going to shiv your nuts
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>>146008485
Cloud 9 should be disregarded because Surefour is a hacker
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>>146007978
I send you my support, anon.
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>>146005204
Bitch-Ass Massive Faggot
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>>146008521
If you melee'd him while you shocked you'd be dealing more damage.
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I will probably stop playing once randoms figure out how AMAZING Zarya is.
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>>146008485
Of course C9 and EnvyUs are above everyone else, they're using aimlocks and other cheats.
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>>146007927
>playing d.va
>winston jumps near me
Thanks for the free kill, ape
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>>146008485
It's worse in EU. There is one undefeated team and a whole lot of shitty teams. NA at least has some competition.
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Roadhog is single-handedly making me want to uninstall this game. I just dont want to deal with it anymore.
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>>146008121
Is that being played today?
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Junkrat nerf when
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>>146006763
I bet Mei smells so nice.
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>>146008676
Pick Reaper and destroy him
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>>146008342
Unlike Mei mccree is actually competitively viable so no their problems are not similar
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why is road hog so fun bros?
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>>146001078
>buying mariachi and not el blanco
you deserve it
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>Blizzard allows 6 man stacks to go up against solo queue players
Is this Blizzards first fucking game or something? Are they seriously this incompetent?
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>>146008365
i blame the game's categories for heroes

in the same way that symmetra isn't really a support, d.va isnt really a tank

people see she's a 'Tank' and (understandably) expect her to be able to tank damage, because tanks don't usually have to flank snipers

i agree though, i dont think she needs a buff other than her broken critbox
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>>146008352

So how would you nerf/change Mei?
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>>146008748
the point is that fixing something that is fundamentally shit isnt gonna happen
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>>146008505
>3 PRESTIGE and one double prestige
>doesn't deal with the tracer

I killed 50 people in that game. All I have learned is that prestige means you have played the game a lot and maybe only against the AI.
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>>146008621
>interrupting lmb with melees increases damage
>people complain about winston damage
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>>146007686
>everyone is bad except me
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Is it me or is tracer OP?

>extremely hard to predict due to being able to teleport

>every encounter with her is fought on her terms

>what's that? you almost killed her? welp now she has 100% HP again, GG

>if you guy pulse bombed the best you can do is run off and die alone, no way to prevent it unless you happen to be looking in her direction when she comes torwards you
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>get POTG for mopping up the low health enemy team with 76's ult

all skill baby
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>teammate picks Winston
>you know they're going to YOLO and die the entire game
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>>146006278
Why would anyone want to read my shitposts? Search the archives for "Jesse McCree!"

Here's some fresh poetry to hold you over until I get off work!
>I was only a young anon
>I loved Jesse McCree so much, I owned all the sprays and emotes
>I pray to McCree every night, thanking him for the most eliminations per game life I have been given
>"Jesse McCree is love", I say, "Jesse McCree is life"
>Reaper hears me and calls me a faggot
>He is obviously jealous of my devotion to McCree
>I called him an edgy worse McCree
>He slaps me and hurls me down the well on illios
>I am crying now, because my face hurts
>I go into my spawn and it is very cold
>I feel a warmth moving towards me
>I fell something touch me
>It's McCree
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear, "Woah there"
>He downs me with his powerful fanhammer DPS and puts me on my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I spread my PotG for McCree
>He penetrates my shield
>It hurts so much, but I do it for McCree
>I can feel my healthbar tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his force
>I want to please McCree
>He clears his throat as he fills my butt with his dps
>Reaper walks in
>McCree looks him deep in the eyes and says, "This life's never uninteresting"
>McCree dodgerolls through the window
Jesse McCree is love, Jesse McCree is life
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>>146008802
Symmetra is totally a support.

She's just not a healer, which the game says she is because it conflates the two.
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>>146007686
more accurate
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>>146007686
>russian
>good at video games
the last one needs an edit
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>>146007927
>Playing D.Va
>Winston randomly jumps into me with the closest enemy player being half a map away
Oh looks it's the only character that I out-DPS in the entire game.
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>>146007019

Why is Tracer so low? Is it because people don't deal with her shit in competitive?
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>>146008801
A mercenary mode with no premades and only solos would be awesome.
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>put on a game that has already started
>want to leave
>YOU WILL BE PENALIZED

What the fuck blizzard?
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>>146008842
Remove healing on her invulnerability
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>>146008937
She is only really good on koth
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>>146008802
D.Va is a tnak because she has a lot of HP and has a way to mitigate damage and protect her team.

Symmetra is a support because she primarily assists the team in ways other that outright damage, namely slowing down enemies and increasing her own team's health and speed to the front.
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>>146008702
Yea, envy is playing today, I think.
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>>146008872
Same guy here
just ended up in a team with a double prestige
I literally watched him try to kill genji as winston while mercy was on higher ground healing genji

what a fucking joke
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>>146008948

If it's like every other game with team and solo queue, literally no one would do team queue anymore.
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>>146008893
> He can't track tracer
> he's complaining about killing a character with 150 hp

play Tracer more. Tracking an enemy tracer becomes incredibly easy once you are familiar with how her movements work
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>>146008573
hi /owg/ I don't usually use vg but I just bought this game a few days ago on PC and I don't have any friends does anyone want to play?
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>>146008971
>making her even more useless
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>>146008172
What are the chances that they just keep her bad in competitive because she is annoying in pugs
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>>146008913
good point.

why not just rename "Support" to "Healer" and move Symmetra into Defense?
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>>146008891
>le only constant meme
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>it's a "you won too many games just now so you get put in the worst team imaginable where you could get 5 gold medals with like 5 kills and 1k damage done np" episode
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>>146008937
Tracer is extremely situational and performs better in team fights that drag out, making her a worse pick over 76 or Reaper if you're moving as a deathball.
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>>146007272
>He's actually a support hero who is also combat effective

what do you mean? so is every other one not named mercy

unless you mean that he is effective in almost any situation
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>>146008880
well, it's more of Winston spamming his melee is a higher dps than his weapon, so attacking when you can while using your weapon will only result in an uptick in damage.
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>>146008891
>>146008917

I love how even an obviously exaggerated satire can trigger the playerbase of this game.

>hurr hurr these are the works of the shitters that are in my game, that think they are better but in reality i am the ooga king
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>>146008937
McCree was being using a lot and is very effective against Tracer and also takes up an offensive char slot that would be used by Tracer

Widowmaker who was also being used a lot 1shots tracer with anything

Teams were opting to use Zarya+Reaper duo on KOTH instead of Tracers

Post-nerfs, she'll probably see more use. Her position in the tiers has shifted around quite a lot depending on which characters are popular at the time.
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>>146009143
weve all been there
forced 50 is a motherfucker
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>POTG is you doing absolutely nothing noteworthy or game changing while everyone bullies you for it as if you wanted POTG
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Are any of the offense heroes not Flankers?
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>play a character
>try to wall ride

ive done too much Lucio, fucking hell
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>>146009215

Wonder when a new tier list will be out.
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>>146008382
I'm a split console/PC retard

the main reason Torb is an issue is due to a number of reasons:

>console aiming is inherently shitty, but for numerous reasons it's way, way worse in Overwatch
>can aim fine in dozens of other shooters, but aiming in the X/Y direction + diagonally is fucking weird in this game. Moving the sticks here feels "heavy", almost like there's input lag or something
>take this shit aim and add the fact that Torb's turret doesn't need to aim, has insane range, can autolock you near instantly and can dish out damage
>peek and shoot around corners is slow and clunky due to controls so you get fucked by the turret and assuming you live you come out with 50 health
>this is all assuming you are 1v1 against a Torb + turret
>a decent Torb easily snowballs against pubs
>literally zero communication on consoles so any strat revolving around someone trying to tank damage while someone takes out a turret is basically not a possibility
>good players know that Torb is where it's at in the console meta so you can expect to see stacked Torb on defense a lot
>2+ Torbs is either impossible to deal with in solo queue or is a massive pain in the ass
>Molten Core fucks your face if you aren't quick enough to destroy it
>and even if you do destroy it there's always the option of him placing a new one down while you're dead, because you probably are

So take shit aim + turret range/accuracy/damage + Torb being Torb and add to this the ability to stack and snowball and its an issue.
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>>146008917
How do you change voices? I would like to play in French but I'm stuck in the US currently.
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>>146008365
Shut up, I want those 2 glorious months of being a flying god tank, absolutely destroying everyone until Blizz realizes they made a mistake.
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/r/ing that "hurr everybody sux but me" image.

Please respond
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>>146008842
If anything she needs buffs
She is useless against anyone with a coordinated team
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>>146009257
soldier and mccree
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>>146009253
> it's a "Torb respawns and molten cores for a quad-kill while running back" episode

>>146009257
McCree, Pharah
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>>146005464

Ugh i cannot stand Gearbox's art style. It could have been a good game, but god damn is it ugly.
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>>146008964
Welcome to Mr. Kaplan's Wild Ride
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>Ching chong, ding dong
>Beep boop beep
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How do I make sure my region is correct? Does it ask me?
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>>146009143
I've started to just leave games I don't enjoy, they can shove their penality up their ass. All I want is to play with people who understand teamwork.
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>>146009309
thats really depressing
I just go 76 whenever I see a torb and steamroll him
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>>146009275
I keep trying to jump forward or revert time when playing other heros than tracer
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>>146009275
I had similar feeling after playing zarya a lot. Was always looking for a retard that got caught to shield and pressing E.
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>>146009309
Dva, Dva, Dva


Only thing i've found that works consistently against Torb on consoles
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>>146009074
Good. Fuck them.
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Is there any onog games going on today?
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>>146009473
sauce
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>>146008662
I want to fuck Tracer's throat.
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Did they remove backfill XP? I don't seem to get it anymore.
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>>146008365
> tfw 5 kill streak while out of my mech


holy fuck her projectile gun is strong. Sometimes I like to play Dva out of her mech for DPS and then jump into her mech when the team needs me to fly around and fuck with people. I wonder if that's a viable strategy?
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>Molten Core right before Reinhardt charges me

>survive and kill him
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>>146009143
>>146009484
>retards first mmr based game
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>enemy picks Symmetra
>if you dont cap first point before TP is up you instantly lose

epic design tbqh
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>>146009549
This

D.Va can still shit on Torb pretty hard on console, she's an instalock for me when I see more than 1 torb and a general pick when seeing 1 torb
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I really want to git gud at Lucio's wall ride
seeing those webms of him chasing people around the map fills me with inspiration
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>find a decent team to play with
>always get booted from the game after we win

WHY
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>>146009708
>play torb
>get armor and a shield
>get play of the game because you survived a push.
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>>146005065
Dont fucking tell me dragshooting is possible in this shitty game aswell pls
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>>146009817
> he doesn't have "The Path is Closed" achievement
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>>146009708
>CHING CHONG FUNG WOO
>In the middle of mei's blizzard hell
>Molten core before I freeze
>Survive and pump her full of hot lead
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>>146009275
>play as Soldier
>switch to Zarya
>shield myself by accident
>switch back to Soldier
>keep using biotic field while targeting distant teammates
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>>146008913
They made the same mistake in HotS. They had a couple heroes based around shielding and utility, while every other support was and still is a dedicated healer.

Commit to "support = healer" or don't you fucks.
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>>146009074
And the problem is?
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>>146009557
What if he has a rein, zenyatta heal mercy heal lucio heal and Zarya shield?
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>>146009816
>""""""""""""mmr"""""""""""""

doesn't explain why most games are good and balanced and then you get games that are clearly absolutely not your mmr
like jumping from 5k to 2k in dota for one game

bullshit is what it is
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>>146009839
more like DETERMINATION

haha, get it? it's an undertale meme
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damn there's a lot of pressure to perform as an offense character.
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>>146005464
Me 2, 2bh. I saw a cinematic on youtube that looked legit fun, but it's hard knowing it was all for nothing. I'm almost a bit ashamed for digging the very thing that caused this, i mean Blizzard probably didn't even need to devastate it, they just did because they could
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>>146009549
She's who I go to when dealing with Torbs.

Only issue is that while I go in and try to deal with them I turn around and see my 2 Hanzos trying to do trickshots.
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>>146009967
but Zarya is a better support at shielding and Tobjorn is much, much better at improving the HP of allies
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>>146010013
as long as you get POTG its fine
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>>146009557
did this nigger said i should go Symmetra on attack?
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>Play Winston
>Chimp out
>Stand in front of a McCree
>Tank his entire High noon
>Play of the game
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>>146009839
I've seen him circling the top of pillars on Anubis' point B and have no idea how the fuck that's done
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>>146010124
>playing mcskill
>get potg even with shit plays
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>>146009991
Then they literally only have a Bastion and a Zarya doing damage (maybe Zen and Lucio) while their whole team strat is revolved around keeping the Bastion alive. Grab a few flankers (atleast 1 genji) and kill him.

If they have 6 players focused on a strategy, you shouldn't expect to be able to debunk that strategy by yourself, however.
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>Boost into the air as Pharah
>"I got you in my sights"
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So, how does the matchmaking work to be exact? I'm about 500~ games in with a 53% win rate, but I feel like my games just keep getting worse, even if I get better - gameplay-wise. It's as if suddenly no one plays the objective, and that I am gold medalled in elims whilst sitting on top of the payload alone as a tank, etc.

I had some intense losing streaks before the tide turned, but when I was around 50% WR - my games felt much better than they do now.

I am suddenly paired with a lot of level 10s-30s and even if we end up winning the game, it just feels shit. (Not to say being low level equals being shit at the game, but anecdotally). It's often steamroll or be steamrolled.
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>>146009839
I saw a webm of some c9 guy keeping the point alive in lijiang tower market place by wall riding in and out of the point untill his team came back. That filled me with inspiration to pick up lucio. Then my winrate went up to 56.1% :^)
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>>146009319
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>>146009902
forced 50 m8
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>potg zenyatta
>it's him kicking people to death then ulting

based
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>>146010175
they have macros or jump bound to mousewheel so it spams jump like crazy and allows them to wallride MUCH better than usual
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>>146009630
Artist: Rocket Monkey

Forget which doujin, they're all very samey
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>>146010175
spam jump and hug the pillars

You can also pillar jump on Illios:Ruins and pillar surf on Lijiang Tower:Garden
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>>146010293

Thanks my man
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>>146009993
I don't see you complaining when your ass gets carried and you get fuck all medals, faggot. Also keep in mind that it's quickplay, google Kaplan's blue post about it's matchmaking algorithm.
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>>146010013
>>146010124
Back-breaking carrying is definitely worth it when people see how hard you worked in pressing that Q to cinch the win.
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New Thread:
>>146009538
>>146009538

>>146009538
>>146009538
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>>146010293
There are Widow mains in this thread RIGHT NOW who think their team is the problem.
>>
>Join a game.
>Nepal, one round each, 99 vs. 99, on OT.
>Somehow manage to go on 8 player killstreak, win.
>Thrown out of lobby.
>Join another game.
>Attack on Dorado.
>0 seconds left.
>Lose.

Forced 50 is real my friends.
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>you are now death spectating Junkrat
>*intense grenade launching 2feet next to objective*
>OVERTIME
>*Grenade launching intensifies*
>defeat
asdhajhgajzsdhgkajhsf
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>>146010452
>not at bump limit
>not at image limit
>page 1
what the fuck are you doing
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>>146010305
Can you do melee attacks while ulting?
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>>146010310
>>146010368
Can you have duplicate binds or no? I'd like to still keep it on space even if I also bind it to MW-
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>>146010452
fucking hell we're nowhere close to bump limit
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>roadhogs gimmick is his 20tick hook that always hits
>lmao just shoot him 2v1

so this is balance
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>>146008521
>>146008880

Christ, his gun really is terrible.
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>>146010519
Yes.
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>>146008005

Thanks, I actually was just adding strong with.

How's this? still tweaking a few things but I think it's got all the pieces needed.
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>>146010519
yes
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>>146010497
Wow anon, you sure are good at existing within a mile of your team.>>146010553
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>>146010519
I don't know, i playing him on console
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New thread
Come show your support
>>145939523
>>145939523
>>145939523
>>145939523
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>>146010531
pley
reaper
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>>146010531
game is 60 tick retard
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>>146010413
I've literally never been carried.
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>>146010452
>he really made a new thread this early
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How do I git gud at this game?

When I play with my friends they always do way better than I do, granted they are all tf2 vets, but I hardly get any medals. Are there any shooter basics tutorials or overwatch help videos to help?
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>>146010691
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>>146010653
>>>146010553
How the fuck did that get in there

>>146010730
It's always waifu shitters who make early threads
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>>146010707
The servers are 20 tick, the client only works at 20 hz for matchmaking.
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>>146010691
destiny is dumb, nerd
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>>146010691
>people still play destiny
how?
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>>146000627
>make thread on overwatch forum suggesting that there be a jewish hero added
>thread is flooded with atheist supreme gentlemen
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>>146010803
Servers are 60 tick I mean. I'm retarded.
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>>146009124

Symmetra as support is fine, the team make-up warning just needs to be changed to "No healer" instead of "No support".
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roadhog is so unbalanced what the fuck
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>>146009991
Pick 6 meis and keep their entire team trapped in the corner all game.
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>>146010843
There's a dedicated core of believers who continue to grind for rare loot long after everyone else gave up on the game. Since that's all the game was ever meant to be, it works.
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>>146010293
include both teams and you got a "competitive" overwatch match
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>not just switching to genji to fuck around when your team is shit
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>>146010967
>>146009124
>no sniper
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>>146010691
dg? ded general?
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>>146010284
I'm at this exact point having the same problem. Hopefully it'll get better
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>>146011557

it took me two loops to realize what was going on but yes

good job anon
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>>146011517
you know it my nigga
When they booga around too much i just go full ooga and pick the hero they deserve. A Genji or a Hanzo.
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>>146010284
if your winrate is above 50% the game forces you to lose by putting you in shit teams

how do you not already know this?
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Snipers in midrange arena shooters only exist because autism demands it so they can have a power fantasy of being le elite marksmon.
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>>146012091
Why aren't you playing with friends?
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>>146011701
Most of my PoTG's are just stupid things like that, or when I drop a pulse bomb into a black hole. Or that time a game was so bad my two kills with a High Noon was PoTG
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>>146011531

And that warning just needs to be removed.
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>>146012197
because I don't have friends
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>>146010284
It's because of the forced 50 system. Ignore all those that try to convince you it's not real. Premade shitters would obviously not believe in it, but it's there and constantly in effect. You're not in the proper MMR or some shit like that. You're being paired with bad players against players better than your team in general. The reason it's a stomp is because it's heavily unbalanced. There is no reason to try and climb into a higher MMR since those consist only of Premades and you'll just get stacked with terrible players until the game wants to throw you with good platyers.
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>>146000824
>Zarya weak against Mercy and Genji
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>>146012260
I'll be your friend when I get the game
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>>146012315
>have 60% win rate
>forced 50 faggots are just shitters making excuses
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>>146012315
You're complaining about not fighting people worse than you
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>tfw you've been stuck at 55% winrate and 59% on your main for the last 8 hours
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It's a "roadhog thinks he's hot shit for doing the same shit mcree does" episode

Can blizzard at least fix the hook so it doesn't fucking clip through walls when it hooks me around a fucking corner?
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>>146001176
Fite me
http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/eu/Rasdwatrium-2342
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>>146004925

Rebind jump to left trigger anytime you play her.

It makes it ten times easier to aim rockets while you're trying to stay airborne.
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>>146013178
Then what do I rebind float to? Right now it's L1 boost Jump, R1 is the conc blast, and L2 float.
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>>146012535
you will be hard pressed to find a large number of people that have more than that though.

tolerances exist for metrics like that.
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>>146012597
No everyone's complaining about not playing in equal, fair matches where they actually have to work for a win and had a fighting chance before they lost.
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>>146012898
No, they won't tamper with the clientside tickrates. If they even touch it the "smooth" feel of all the gameplay vanishes and the obvious flaws in their first fps game show up.

They built this game like a console game.
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>>146013629
remember when games weren't made with online multiplayer as the main focus but still ran almost as well on a <80ping server as on a LAN?
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>>146008224

Thanks! Just this one so far but the template is easy to edit so I should be able to crank out the rest, I just need the information.

I'm going to start making the rest now, and consider this Bastion one done until people request edits.
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>>146014349

Here's the template in case anyone is interested, and hereeee

https://www.mediafire.com/?yowtdc3olqtvnpp

is the photoshop file in case anyone wants it. It has all the portraits and shit in folders and I didn't really label anything so have fun.

Oh and

https://www.mediafire.com/?rb650587giurmap

This is a zip with a ton of images, icons, and the fonts. I don't know who did this but I found it through the googles and it made this much much easier. It has the icons for abilities etc
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>>146010561
Why isn't the obvious Genji there?
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>>146013415
Can't you float by holding jump?
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>>146014349
Bastion is not bad at koth; Pharah doesn't really counter him.
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>>146015137

I added him, I had just reflect icon there because someone had said to add snipers but I talked to my husband and he also thought it was dumb not to put him, and that hanzo wasn't a great counters so I went with widowmaker alone and then genji with the reflect icon to make it clear why in case it's not

>>146014349

final one here for bastion, unless people have more suggestions.

>>146015216

I'm just putting what people say for the heroes idk. Do you have more specific map suggestions? "good at...numbaniorwhatever" might be better than just modes and stuff, actually. I would prefer this to be a really basic guide for beginners, but maybe I could do a guide with each map and recommendations on which heroes on which points etc etc...
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>>146015537
>my husband
You're confusing me anon...
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>>146015652

i know right
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>>146015652
Gay marriage has been legal for a while, Anon. Keep up.
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>>146013415

You float by pulsing your jump button, retard.

The default controller layout makes it impossible to float and aim at the same time since you have to let go of the right analog stick to press jump.

My change addresses that, and since Pharah has no alt-fire, you don't miss out on switching the left trigger.
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>>146017218
Pressing X is native Jump, holding X floats

Pressing L2 just floats
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>>146010967

So I finally did the unthinkable.

I played Symmetra on an attack map.

Between Myself, Trashmouse, and 76 we did pretty good. Even D.va did alright. Of course, we lost because we were carrying two Genjis.
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>>146001680
Probably stop playing with them to get them matched with players of similar skill level.
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Trying to convince my friend to buy overwatch so I have someone to play with. Is there an infographic with some basic details about each character so he can get the basic jist of all of them?
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