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>Official Stuff
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/community/

>Official Comics
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us

>The Oversheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

>/owg/ ID List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-1uOqymySz22QFhC6S19HPb8WKJBDNd3ILj679bW2Sk

>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>/owg/ Survery
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1n4-Xcs6_u2-uPPNrSUYiyKhE1_xFxrt1NsgbsrSOw6w/viewform

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/416mmBkq

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com

>porn archive
https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0ByzmhGDY8u8MUWFTalAyVDBRTU0&export=download

>Overwatch DPS Sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D4jOtaosiZoM2VA9IjRRPaiMbTTZtPrD1d8mK23DPa0

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>Discord
https://discord.gg/013ppKfgfODe9UcGd
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>>145740003
I want to garble mercy's balls
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>cant log in
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gay as fuck, im not posting in this after this post
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>>145740003
Why doesn't he have purple skin?
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>>145740003

Why does Mercy look like a blond Chip Skylark?
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>>145740003
Have you played the based robot god of POTGs today, /owg/?
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Chile strong
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I want to stab Mercy!
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Give me some simple art requests
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nth for dead servers
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>>145740141
MY SHINY TEETH AND ME
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>>145740174
your parents not being disappointed in you
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>>145740145
It's difficult finding people who don't immediately target you.
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>>145740174
D.Va's mech with a huge dick
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>>145740174
d.va in this pose
with her feminine dick out
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>>145740145
What MMR is this that no one reacts to bastion fire raining down on them for a good 25 seconds?
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What heroes do you never see comics of? I've got a list.

>Symmetra
>Bastion
>Lucio
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>having fun kind of close game
>probably going to win
>enemy starts getting momentum
>level 114 faggolord quits and we lose because it's 5v6 now
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>>145740148
This is a D.Va thread now
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>>145740174
Genji & Hanzo playing tic tac toe
and Hanzo winning
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It's matchmaking related at all to player level?
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>>145740174
that same picture but with gamer d.va sitting on his lap with dorito spice-dust on the newspaper
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>>145740174
McCree in Overwatch uniform doing a Death Blossom with two Peacekeepers. He's saying "HIGH NOON, NOON, NOON".

Bonus points if other Overwatch members are laughing while Reyes is sulking behind a corner.
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>>145740145
>at no point did a single person respond to the loud as fuck chaingun and step back behind cover or even attempt to shoot you

These are the people who complain about bastion
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>>145740145
I've been playing him a lot more often ever since I got that Omnic Crisis skin
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>>145740174

Nothing lewd or gay, the general is shit about with this shit so don't encourage it.
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Play nice, play Pharah.
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>>145740174
Make this into someone.
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>>145740174
Show me what Zenyatta looks like without pants,
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>>145740304
nobody knows what it is

honestly the matchmaking would be improved if it was purely based on ping and nothing else
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>>145740304
It's related to ping
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>play as mercy
>get gold in elims
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>>145740172

>implying heroes die
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>>145740145
>lvl 9
Bastion is useless once u past lvl 40
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>>145740083
right there with you, what the fug is going on
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Hi, I'm Anthony, and I main bastion.
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Is it just me or are you guys also unable to connect to the server?
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I just played with a guy named Nightshadow. Can you guess what hero he was playing?
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>>145740174
have mei wear this
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>>145740397
It's happening to everyone
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>>145740397
Servers currently shitting themselves

Welcome to Blizzard games.
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>>145740363
>>145740368
Which one is it?
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>Widow can still fucking quickscope by immediately cancelling the animation after firing with a melee attack
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Gold in Objective Time
>Time on objective: 00:01 seconds
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>>145740431
tracer
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>>145740145
Yes, yes I have.
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>>145740252
its easy to get tunnel vision in the last 5meters
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>>145740441
Ogrecrotch is my first Blizzard game actually, so thanks
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>>145740386

Because without half a brain, Genji players would be laughed at and given swirlies for ult.

Ever mistime a deflect, have the enemy team stare at you dumbly, then mulch you when it dropped? That's what separates bad Genjis from good. Good Genjis take the moment to at least leave.
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>>145740464
>gold in elimination
>3 kills
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>>145740248
d.va doesn't have a dick
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>>145740431
obviously mei
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>>145740509

You get to learn the easy way then. At least Overwatch servers were stable on launch.

Wait for a Diablo or WoW release, then you'll know pain.
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>>145740431
Mercy
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>>145740540
>Join game in progress
>2 minutes left
>Get two elims
>Gold
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Does anyone else get lower fps when in a group? It sounds weird but I swear to god I notice a difference.
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>>145740003
Would you healslut for boy-Mercy, anons?
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Which female Overwatch character has the highest waifu quotient?
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>Blizzard makes a shitty casual fps
>All the shitters leave other games and congregate here

Reading this general gave me cancer

How do you retards enjoy festering with each other like this
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>>145740464
>gold in objective time with 7 seconds
>I joined right at the end for 10 second before losing
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This skin when?
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>>145740595
>implying
Betas were a shitshow, and launch was delayed by like 12 hours.

What you think was launch was actually the fourth or so launch.
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>>145740174
mercy and 76
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>>145740145
protip: shifting to recon and shifting back into turret is faster than reloading in turret form
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>>145740640
(you)
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>>145740638

Mercy
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IT'S OVER, LEAGUE OF LEGENDS HAS BEEN DETHRONED
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>>145740174
Genji grilling hamburgers in a cute apron
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>>145740638
bastion
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>>145740174
dad 76 forced to play jetfighters with kid tracer
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>>145740640
We know how to play the game.

Have you seen an Overwatch thread in /v/?

Pure cancer.
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Anybody else feel bad killing Bastions?
They're like innocent puppies who boop boop when they die.

Like fuck man, that's not cool.
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>>145740174
Pharah with a top gun hat.
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>>145740701
it'll be back to the top soon and forever when players realize riot is far more responsive to players and makes more content than blizzard
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>>145740640

Because i play this game as a shitty casual fps when i need to take a short break from other games or stuff
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>>145740638
zenyatta
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I CANT LOG IN
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>>145740701
>He believes the single most shallow pvp game on the market will dethrone the largest f2p moba in the world
>A blizzard game no less

not on your life bud

Bet you think Overwatch is deep enough for e-sports too lol
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>>145740675

Every WoW expansion since Cata had a months-long PTR and STILL shat themselves on launch. And from what I understand, the problems around Diablo were even worse.

I was grateful to come home from work at 5 AM and actually be able to play Overwatch.
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>>145740458

Can't keep a good blueberry down
Maybe they'll revert the stupid quickscope nerf and give her a proper nerf already soon
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>>145740771
this
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Does Blizzard try to mute anyone else's account?

They always send notifications that my account has been silenced but it never goes through.
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>>145740174

Pharah princess carrying Mercy
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>>145733185
>mfw got most hours on lucio
>mfw each and every game i make it my sole purpose and duty to hunt down the enemy mercy
>mfw it's easy as hell because literally nobody gives a shit about her
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>>145740751
>Going to /v/
>Ever
>Especially around E3

You'd have to fucking hate yourself to do that
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>>145740775
deeper than lol tick tack toe
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Got 1k gold, can't decide to get Mach T or T. Racer halp
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>>145740752
If you don't kill the Bastions, the Bastions will kill you. And the only thing worse than killing a puppy is getting killed by a puppy. Because that's just pathetic.
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Which Heroes do you pick to carry/get free wins with?
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>>145740640

Because as a TF2 Medic main, nothing infuriated me more than having a faggot Sniper standing in the attic of Harvest with one health in the window and not being able to fly up to him to harvest uber.

Overwatch fixed that.
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best boys
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>>145740760
>roit making anything else than skins and stuff players didn't ask for
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Would you drink Widowmaker's blueberry juice?
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Where are the Reinhardt lewds my friends
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>>145740862
whichever looks better to you you dumb fuck
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>>145740838
Mistakes were made.
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>>145740885
Junkrat
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>Healers will never be nerfed
>The meta will ALWAYS be a Lucio/Mercy or double Lucio

inb4 buff Zen (though he does need buffs) or release new support

They really just need to tone down how effective and important healing is right now
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If Bastion could eat who would he want to eat?
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Genji actually can't get out of Mei's M1 range with his dash

I'm too lazy to look up who said that but Mei shits on him hard
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>>145740920
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2387294
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>>145740885

Pharah if they got no tanks, Reaper if they got too many tanks, Zarya if I literally need to kill them 1v6
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>>145740974

>They need to tone down how effective and important healing is
>In a game where pretty much every other class has infinite ammo and an AoE ability/ult

Okay
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>Nobody calls for Reinhardt to be nerfed
Why?

You literally need him on your team if you want to win Payload against a good team. He's an instalock for any serious non-koth team.

Don't say "lel none of the other tanks fill his niche", this situation is unacceptable no matter how you look at it.
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>>145740003
so let me get this straight
If I leave before losing a game, the game doesn't count and I don't get a loss?
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>>145740885
Zarya
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>>145740174
draw vomit chan but have it be genji puking through his mask
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>>145740951
This would be cute if it wasn't forcing that Pharmercy cancer
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>>145740862
T. Racer looks better.
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>>145740885

Mercy.

Once I show my team I'm willing to use my damage boost, they'll flock to me to fuck shit up.
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>>145740862
sporty
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>>145740826
No. Stop being a cunt.
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>>145740974

I hear you.

Healing and instant damage ultimates are both way too meta shaping right now. They are so ingrained lots of people don't even question their presence.

They detract from the game though in my opinion. The only good direct damage ults right now are Tracer sticky (since its not super reliable, so you have to earn it) and Hanzo (10/10 ult design, everyone should have had this pattern)
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>>145741056
Probably because without heavy restructuring of the maps the game would be way less balanced if rein wasn't auto-pick? He's overpowered, but necessary.
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>>145741075
due to bug which they won't fix
normally yeah, but it might get unbugged sometimes and you do get the loss
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>>145741102
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>>145741102
>forcing that Pharmercy cancer
>Only one of them is in the picture
I think it's time for a break, Anon.
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>>145741185
Legitimate cancer.

And I like lesbians/yuri.
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>got two week chat mute just for telling a mei who kept walling us to never play again without being "polite" about it
why is blizzard catering to these disgusting oversensitive casuals
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>>145740885
Zarya or 76
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>>145741056

Reinhardt was a soft counter to McCree and the Blueberry Bitch (since he could block high noon and sniping).

There's no telling he's as useful in a Pharah dominated meta. He might get ousted by a Zarya+Porky combo or maybe even D.Va if she gets buff anytime soon.
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>>145741056
The only time he's a piece of shit is when he's turtling a bastion and mercy so you cant do anything.
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>guy on my team doesn't like our comp so he starts jumping to his death over and over

wow blizzard it's like i'm really playing a moba, thanks so much
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>>145741214
not him but pharrah on her hood
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if i leave game during the potg shit do i lose out on XP?
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>>145741185
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>Baiting Genji into my sentry trap
>Mei icewalls off the entry to my trap just as I am about to enter
>Genji kills me

Thanks Mei.
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Post top5 played
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>>145740772
you gotta kiss me
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Windowlickercunt still has a bullshit fast sniper, the nerf is as good as useless as long as she can fire that rapid

fuck this game
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>>145741284
>>145741185
these
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>>145741185
>>145741284

FUCK OFF TUMBLR

MERCY IS STRAIGHT
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>>145741254
>Pharah dominated meta
Is that where we're headed?
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>>145741290
>>>/soc/
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>>145741241
probably because you said GGEZ kyl after a steamroll and got reported for that
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>>145740836
>Play Mercy
>Literally every enemy hero with flanking potential does nothing but hunt me down
>My team doesn't react and dies afterwards
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>>145740974
Hey, on this note: How would you buff Zen, /owg/?

I'd convert all of his raw health to armor. Tiny change, meaningful repercussions.
Maybe also increase Orb lifetime to 4 seconds, or even just 3.5.
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>>145741286
I hate Mei players.
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>>145741290
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>>145741270
>>145741284

No. If you've ever tried to leave a game after it's ended when you were close to a lootbox, you'll be pleasantly surprised to see the golden OPEN LOOTBOX button.
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now that the dust has settled, what do you think about the pathetic widow nerfs?
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>>145740916
hell yes
i'd eat her blueberry pie, her blueberry shortcake, her blueberry nectar!
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>>145741185
>>145741284
>>145741383
tumblr pls go and stay go
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>>145740229
Aaaaahhhhhh ah ah!
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>>145741056
No one protects the team like Reinhardt does.

Roadhog is too offensive and can't pick people off, plus he's just a damage sponge for the enemy to build their ultimate with.

D.Va's and Winston are more disruptive tanks that can get in enemy backlines or distract them.
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I honestly don't get the point of Mei, she's supposed to be deadly at close range but also has long range comparable to Widow, she has area denial like Bastion, but unlike Bastion she needs literally no time to start it up, and she can literally just decide at any time to stop playing the game, while also gaining her health back. It's fucking nonsense, how did this happen? She needs to be completely overhauled.
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>Soldier 76 brawl is just all soldier
>Mercy brawl is Mercy and Pharah only

Even blizzard ships Pharmercy
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>>145741360

>Enemy Mei wins our team the game on Nepal by blocking her Reaper right as he's ulting

Thank you ice bitch.
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>>145741360
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>>145741417
I've heard you can successfully cancel still by meleeing, so it didn't even really 'stick'.
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>>145741270
Yes. I've lost my XP because I was dropped during the postgame bullshit more than once.

>>145741254
Pharah becoming popular would be bad news for Reinhardt. Maybe Zarya's day in the sun is coming.
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>>145741427
If they were Tumblr, it'd be pictures of Genji and Hanzo fucking each other.
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>>145741383
>>145741327
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>>145741427
can't
won't
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>>145740174
Zarya in dressed up for a date.
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>>145740836
>enemy genji tries to gank me
>teammates are clueless as usual
>whip out the blaster
>land two quick headshots, he drops like a bag of rocks
>"wtf?"

Robot ninja doesn't scare me, neither does a manlet DJ.
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>>145741451
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>>145741417
Someone on the dev team mains Widowmaker
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>>145741454
I'm the McCree with the Noose spray.
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>>145741480
>>145741383
>>145741284
fuck off australia
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>>145741330
No. All you need is a 76 on your team and that just about shuts down Pharah.
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>>145741290
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>>145741480

This is the most forced bullshit ship since Korra x Asami.
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>>145741458
>I've lost my XP because I was dropped during the postgame bullshit more than once.
i feel this happens too.
i jump out of games as soon as the play of the game shit starts and i haven't been getting some xp
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>>145741417
mvp 70% on fire on first match right after the nerf
and I dont even play Widow much. Shit nerf desu, should have slower her scoped charge rate
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>>145741360
>Mei walls me in spawn
>Mei blocks the rocket that would have killed a retreating enemy
>"Justice rains from a-" "Ice wall coming up!"

How the fuck did this character make it out of alpha?
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>playing the brawl
>retards don't go on the point to protect their literally worthless K/D instead of winning the game
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>>145740885
Lucio
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>>145741480

FUCK OFF
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>>145741307

You know how her nerf should have looked like?
>Body shot damage from 5-125
>No exception rule on headshots. Torby can protect his teammate from widowlicker. Tough shit, blueberry bitch has a solid counter.
>Every sniping shot eats 10 ammo per shot, so she get three tries
>Reload animation extended
>The ult nerf was fine
>Damage falloff on her assault rifle (because consistency with S:76 and Bastion)
>Shave just a little bit off her health. Like 25 or something. This is just to compensate for her having a smaller hitbox (especially when she jumps), so she tends to get hit less in close quarters.

There. Now Widowmaker would have still felt good and fun to play since she has her quickscope mobility (which a lot of widowmaker mains really liked about her) while still being balanced, because she can't just semi-auto forever with her sniper, so missing has consequences while spectacular play (tripple HS:ing during a push) gets rewarded. The decrease in HP would have meant that flankers could prey on her, and Torby would also have been a sort of counter since he could armor up people to survive even a headshot.
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Man, I wish I could fuckng play the game I bought.
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>>145741670

A good Mei will delay an enemy push for 30+ seconds.

It's just that the average person playing her will delay it for 5 then hold M1. Much like a Pyro who just spammed airblast then held M1 at 19 ammo.
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>>145741704
>>145741626
>>145741561
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>>145741682
> he doesnt play brawl just for shit and giggles
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>>145741740
Thanks for reminding me that she has 200 health
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>>145741290
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>>145741467
I should've gone for headshots instead of fanning.
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>>145741786
Who's the artist for this one?
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>>145741524
>neither does a manlet DJ
o shit waddup
>health regen
>shits mobility
>decent damage
>already does his job as soon as you stop healing
i got bad news anon
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>>145741286
>About to hook Mercy
>Ice Wall
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somebody save me
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>>145741342
What about it? Your homeboard? Bye bye then
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Do the people who hate Widowmaker still like her as a woman?
Do you fap with an angry face to her?
Do you wish you could hatefuck her?

Or did you lose all feelings for her?
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>Your buddy refuses to play with you because you broke some cardinal rule by playing torbjorn on control point maps.
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Only the tryhard Pharahs use anubis skins

this is a fact
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>>145741794
yeah she should have 150. same as Tracer. Knock down Mei's health to 200 while we're at it. She gets an ice wall to run away AND an invuln that HEALS her as well!? She has way too many tools at her disposal to have fucking 250 health.
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>>145741458
Could be they know that us console people suck at aiming so we'll need the damage boost to do anything.I wish I could dominate the sky's with Pharra
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>>145741876
>26% accuracy
Good job just feeding the enemy team ults.
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Since I can't log in

/r/ing more animexoverwatch crossovers
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>>145741924
>more bad players wanting to nerf the worst character in the game
This is getting really old
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>>145740826
lmao i got muted for 2 days too.
fuck these fucking shitters ingame if they play like trash and pick trash classes and refuse to change because they feel like "maining" a character in overwatch they deserve to get fucked

>tfw i report people for playing useless classes and refusing to switch :)
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>>145741330

Yes. All the pros are reporting that Pharah is super popular in scrims right now.

>>145741585

S:76 v. Pharah is a 6-4 matchup in S:76's favor at worst. He can give her trouble, but its not a foregone conclusion because she can give him trouble too if you got talespin aim, because her ttk isn't significantly slower than his.

To shut down Pharah you need multiple hitscan heroes. This was the rule when people ran double McCree or McCree/Widowmaker. Even then you saw Pharah picked on Pharah friendly sections of maps (first and second stage of King's row, second stage of Hollywood)
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>arriving to Temple of Anus Rape on ATTACK
>I'm Rein paired with 2 Genjis, a Mei, a Junkrat and Hanzo
>take point A fast but then the idiots kept continuously running into the enemy's 2 Bastion's on both flank sides powered by Mercy and protected by Rein and 2 toblerone turrets
>they get mad when I switch to sniper to deal with the turrets they keep running into
>DEFEAT
Send help no soul should subject themselves to solo queue.
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>>145741847
idk anon, I'm sorry

Try reverse searching it!
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>>145741964
>junkrat
>accuracy
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>>145741346
I report everyone who does this since it rustles my jimmies, good to know people are getting muted.
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>>145741876
> he doesnt quit immediately on KOTH maps
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>>145741961
Ment to reply to >>145741451
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>>145742005
Yes. If all you're doing is spamming grenades and not aiming at all, the only thing you're achieving is feeding their supports free ults, allowing them to push more often. So good job idiot.
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I know I'm not the best, but do you think I'm decent?
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>>145741346

so many fags do this

how does anyone enjoy a steamroll
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>>145741964
>giving a shit about accuracy
>in a game with unlimited ammo
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>>145741971
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>>145742023
I report them because they are expecting a reaction from me but they're not going to get the reaction they wanted :^)
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>>145741876

>26% accuracy
>20k dmg dealt

Where you playing against multiple Roadhogs/Reinhardts?
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anyone else here extremely depressed and borderline suicidal but hooked on overwatch just enough to want to make it through to the next day?
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>>145741763
A shitty pyro is just dead weight a shitty Mei (ie all Meis) do just as much to hurt their team as the enemy. All of that shit I listed is things that "friendly" Meis routinely do to me. A Mei on your team is much worse than one on the enemy team because you can kill the enemy one.
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>Can't connect to server

WHAT'S HAPPEING
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>>145742069

and how would the expert suggest you're supposed to use a grenade launcher

lets hear it

>>145742096

at the end yes of course
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>>145742150
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Are you over 50 yet owg
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>>145742005
> he spams as junkrat
stay shit
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>>145742175

they should check on the random ping spikes while they're at it
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>>145742163

Should have gone Reaper. Explosive heroes are ass at carrying against multiple tanks since you can't get headshots.
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What level are you and are you bored of the game yet?
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What's your favorite ult and where's your favorite place to ult from?

I also got Bloodhart from a box after buying Bundeswehr. Which to use?
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>>145742175
FREE LOOTBUX NOW

SATE MY GREED WITH YOUR FAILURE
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>>145742260
76
not at all, but I want more skins or some kind of content
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>>145742261
Blood, yours is the axe that will pierce the heavens.
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>>145742163
don't stand behind some wall and spam, actually get in there and learn to aim
the grenades do a lot of damage on direct hits
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>>145742069
If he's hitting them he's also building HIS ult you gigantic retard what are you saying
>j-just don't shoot them!
kill yourself
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>>145742239
>not spamming as the spam hero
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>>145742239
>not terrorbombing in a game which is full with cowards and sperglords who care more about their death number than the objective

retard alert
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>>145742163
grenades detonate on contact so learn to aim
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>>145741976
Just because you get curbstomped doesn't mean the character is weak.

>>145742261
Bloodhart
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>>145742261
man reins potgs are always the best
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>playing Hanamura
>enemy tracer harassing my team the entire game
>I switch to tracer and take her focus
>she spends most of the game just dueling me
>get frustrated and switches to McCree
>I stick their Mercy with my ult and kill her and the Junkrat she was pocketing
>kill their other Junkrat and Zarya
>get POTG
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mei's lmb needs a little more range
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>>145741982
buddy of mine got muted on xbone for calling out a shitty winston cause microsoft are cock guzzlers who dont have the balls to tell kids to get the hell over it

had another friend whos profile quote thing was ass-punch ftw, referring to a match in sf4 he won by shoryukening someone as they jumped. he stomped someone later who got mad salty and reported him and he had to change it
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Hero who actually uses their sword when?
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>>145742318
>>145742331

how do you think I managed the kills

some matches are just shit
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>waifu was a sc2 pro player
>suddenly remember sc2 is a thing
>load up ranked
>no fucking clue about these expansion units or meta
>build 7 rax
>drink the tears of my salty opponents as i steal their elo

heh heh.
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>>145742331
Fought a team with two Junkrats on it, they couldn't land the nades like I could. Also never watched where they were going they kept getting caught in a trap and catching a ball in the face for it.
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>>145742320
yeah just feed their lucio free ults on koth good job buddy
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>>145742261
>the well played spray at the end
gj tankbro
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>>145742261
Flying Hammerdown POTGs are my favorite. Got
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>>145742378
>Console in 2016
Kek
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>>145740760
>riots endless fruitless balance juggling
>responsive

It's hot garbage.
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>>145742426
no idea what slang you're using so you sound like some fucking nerd
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>tfw blocking and avoiding every roadhog player

One day I dream of playing a game with no useless weight on my team.
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>>145742437
you're literally retarded

>d-don't hurt the enemies
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>>145742506
t. 200/150 hp hero mainer
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>>145742378
>he won a match by using DP for the reason it's meant to be used

holy shit is your friend daigo???!
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>>145742506
>roadhog
>useless

is this a meme
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>>145742495
>not knowing what Waifu, meta, rax, or elo means
4chan isn't the place for you.
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>>145742506
>play Roadhog on Attack
>ride the payload all the way home hooking squishies and healing up when I get hungry on the way there
Playing this fatty shouldn't be this much fun
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>>145742437
>Lucio
>getting hit
Yup, you're a dumbass
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so how am i supposed to play junkrat?

i pretty much play the same way i did with demoman in tf2

direct hits on fights that i engage because the damage is good, spam for crowd control when they are far away
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Does Mei have a high skill ceiling?
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>>145742575
>roadhog main can't read

This checks out

>>145742624
no, everything she can do other than M1 is a gimmick or basic area denial.
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>>145742261

Riptire

The cubby above the point on Nepal. They never expect it, it always nets a double at least.
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>>145742609
Learn to read, dumbass.
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>>145742495
i reinstalled a game called starcraft 2 and baserushed every opponent i got queued with in ranked and they were very upset.

it is incredibly ironic since the changes that blizzard have made over the years are catering to faggots who eco up and drag a game out for 40 minutes and im shitting on people with a tactic that's ages old.
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>>145742623

apparently you're supposed to play him like pharah and git gud by the way the fags here talk about him
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Well if they don't want Widow quickscoping this won't last long.

https://a.pomf.cat/vkzank.mp4
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>>145742609
lucio builds ult from healing others but since you probably haven't played the game I didn't expect you to know that.
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>>145742575
Nice reading comprehension, friend.
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>die
>charge anyway

so whens reinhart getting nerfed
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Man it'd be FUCKING GREAT if I could play the game I FUCKING BOUGHT.
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>>145742695
So basically you're saying that you shouldn't shoot the enemies at all unless you can wipe them all.
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>>145742623
drop an airbag near your bear trap on flank routes and drink the salty tears of tracers everywhere
flank bastions and torbs and wreck their shit
when ulting, never charge right at the enemy, try to drop in from above if you can or come up behind them. remember, it can climb walls
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>>145741851
>health regen
So does Mercy, admittedly the delay makes it borderline useless in combat unless there's cover nearby
>mobility
You get health regen or you get mobility - I've never seen a Lucio use wallriding effectively
>decent damage
I encounter good, useful Hanzos more often than I encounter a Lucio who can actually land his shots

That said, I could really use more practice with Mercy's gun. The friends I normally play with are extremely aggressive and usually end up taking so much fire that I hardly ever get a chance to shoot or damage boost.
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>>145741585
>>145741983
>needing hitscan to shoot down Pharahs
My aim may not be perfect but landing rockets against Pharahs is the best.
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>>145742624
Nobody in Overwatch has a high skill ceiling.
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>>145742623
A step by step guide on how to play Junkrat
By me
Professional level Junkrat player

Step 1. Hold down Left Mouse button, at no point during the game should you stop holding down left mouse button

Step 2. Just throw traps everywhere, doesn't matter where it has 0 arm time so just throw it at people if you want for the free 85 damage and 3 second stun/snare

Step 3. Just throw your shift bomb in peoples faces. No arm time means you can detonate it instantly for a free 120 ish damage and the CD is low enough that you honestly don't even need to hit any of your left click bombs to kill people since you can just repeatedly throw shift bombs at them

Step 4. Use your ult on CD. One of the lowest CD ults in the game so no reason to not just spam it even to pick off on person. Note: you should still be holding down left click while piloting the tire

Thats it
you are now a professional level junkrat player
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>>145742710
Nothing wrong with his charge.
I'm surprised he can die while mid-charge.

Makes me kinda sad to see the old dog go like that.
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>>145742624

Hanzo on coke

>>145742623

I think the only new thing about Junkrat is to learn timing his shift+m1 nigh-instant kill combo

>>145742595

Let's be honest now, most pub Roadhogs don't do shit but got an inflated sense of self worth because that one elim they get every twenty seconds keep them on fire thanks to all the self-healing they are spamming.
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>>145742771

it's the best because it almost never happens
>>
anyone have the vid of that lucio hunting down widowmaker?
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>>145742710
So what is essentially a glitch is ground for nerfs?
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>>145742260
38

I missed the random heroes brawl
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>>145742716
Go ask for a refund, you entitled piece of shit if you cannot tolerate a few hour downtime per fucking week or 2 week
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>tfw play D.va
>she's actually pretty fun
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nth for incredibly accurate projectile boxes.
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>>145742785
nigga you sound salty as fuck

where did junkrat touched you?
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Any of you fuckers looking to get this game? Have a couple of Origins editions for PC that I need to unload for CSGO keys or something.
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>>145742792
well kaplan said 20 tick wasnt a problem
so obviously its the hero
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>>145742771
Landing rockets on any high mobility hero is fucking glorious
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>>145742834
I don't appreciate incompetence that denies me from using my product, simple as that. People like you are why this kind of shit is acceptable in the first place.
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>>145742623
if they have a zarya, you simply don't play junkrat

never blindly spam from behind a wall or some shit, you're not a backline hero you should be up front causing mayhem with your traps and mines, junkrat is actually extremely strong up close as long as you stay away from your own splash damage

if all you're doing is spamming grenades into a doorway, their tanks are going to walk into it to deliberately take a little damage then just heal it up and get free ults for their lucios, mercies and zenyattas, which also happen to be the most powerful ults in the game so don't do that
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>>145740862
slipstream
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>>145742623
basically you nailed it. I prefer to use c4 for mobility or finishing enemies off, and I only use the trap to let me know theres a flanker. be relentless, accuracy % with junkrat is meaningless. get as used to projectile arc as possible though, at higher skill levels you can't afford to miss when directly engaged with someone.
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>>145742960
shut up
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>>145742260
76, not at all.

>>145742261
Does two count?
I love throwing down a sound barrier then speed boosting my reaper so he can get a mega Death Blossom off.
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>>145742834
>entitled about something you paid money for
what
>>
Are we back yet?
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This is the best Mei skin.
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>>145742793
>Let's be honest now, most pub Roadhogs don't do shit but got an inflated sense of self worth because that one elim they get every twenty seconds keep them on fire thanks to all the self-healing they are spamming.

what is roadhog supposed to do other than kill things and not die
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>>145742872
What are you talking about?

This is how I play Junkrat and maintain a 78-80% win ratio with him

I have also have been developing a new strat where I tape down my left click and blindfold myself. Then I randomly press around where I think the WASD keys are and still get about 30+ kills per game with a 60% win rate

I have also played him while asleep and won by myself 1v6
Its not junkrat either, he is perfectly balanced. I was a Silver level League of Legends player so I am actually quite good at video games.
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>>145742960
Already have it, wanted to get another skin for variety
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>>145743009
https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
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>>145743045
Not charge the enemy ults.
Most most roadhogs I see aren't dealing the damage they need to be dealing, they have no idea how to fight if their hook is on cd
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>>145742878
i'm suspicious but i'll bite
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>>145743009
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Whoever the poster was that said Mei wouldn't smell bad because she's in cold climate is wrong.
Fat people always smell bad.
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>>145743054
nigga u sound assblasted
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>>145742968
thanks, im getting used to the arc already, since my goal is being able to take down pharas in the sky, direct pills to flying soldiers was the best feel on tf2 and i want to have that again

you pretty much play like i do, i always try to have a spare mine for mobility so i can flank and go behind them, and traps when im engaging tracers or winstons

i feel like a fucking hunter when i trap a winston using his ultimate
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>>145742759
>I've never seen a Lucio use wallriding effectively
that's really one major problem lucios have i also agree with the accuracy even tough that's not that much of a problem if you're in close quarters.
and like i said my first priority is usually getting the mercy away from her team.
so what i'll do is, drop down from somewhere and push her away from her mates which usually leads to her stream breaking (if i manage to push her far enough anyway) or to her just stopping the healing by herself and pulling out that gun of hers which also results in my team having an advantage because if i do everything right they're still in my aura and the enemies lack heals
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>>145743113
She's asian though. About a third don't suffer from BO when sweaty.
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>tfw you kill the healslut before she can revive her entire team and finally break the stalemate
>>145742260
73
No.
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>>145743140
I don't get it

is this some kind of joke or something?

Either way Just play Junkrat the way I have outlined in my highly comprehensive guide

Located Here:
>>145742785


and you too can master the very high skillcap hero that is Junkrat
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>>145742389
>McCree confirmed for Hol Horse's long lost brother
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>>145743054

maybe you should actually play junkrat

>>145743095
>Most most roadhogs I see aren't dealing the damage they need to be dealing, they have no idea how to fight if their hook is on cd

that's probably because 90% of the time roadhog is worthless without being directly in the face of things

if he can't get close there's no choice but to rely on the hook
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>>145742378
wow man that getting muted shit is total fucking retarded.

but i guess these poor kids need a safe space provided by blizzard :(
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>>145743169
>She's asian though
all asians smell bad

fat asians are even worse
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>>145743101
I'm not fucking around, Senpai.
>>
I must have about 300 people on my avoid list
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Forced 50 is ruining the experience for me. Just knowing the game is purposely holding me back is dirty as fuck.
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>>145743157
Pushing her away can acheive literally nothing because she has a low CD dash that's basically always up.
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>>145743240
There's no way to see that list either. kek
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>>145743196
>spending $20 on a tracer skin
>>
DIE DIE DIE
>>
I still cant login, fuck this.
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>>145743269
It's the opposite for me. Knowing that nothing i do truly matters, I focus instead on improving my own skill instead of focusing on winning.
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>>145743291
>he didn't get the Origins Edition on Amazon for $48
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>>145743269
isn't 50% pretty good? It means you are constantly going against people as good as you. If you win a lot you must be fighting shit players.
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>>145743269
explain 'forced 50'

I just noticed I have 174 total games, 87 wins
>>
Wait a fucking second.

Do turrets have unlimited range?
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>>145743312
but that skill will never matter because of forced 50

>>145743327
>spending $67
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>>145743208
I really don't get this joke
Why are people not taking what I am saying seriously?

Everything I have said is 100% accurate. You can even ask my teammate summit1g, who is also a highly skilled and very reputable overwatch player, about how good I am at Junkrat

I carry games all the time
This hero isn't easy though it pushes your micro skills to the limit and makes you reach deep into portions of your cerebral cortex that you didn't even know you had

Give me a second though I will be right back with more replies, I have to clean the drool off of my chin.
>>
>>145743331
>It means you are constantly going against people as good as you.

no it just means the game punishes you by placing you in teams with players that have half the experience of the other team

if it were truly random steamrolls would be rare
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>>145743350
No, just a really, really long one.
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>>145743045

The problem here is that they aren't killing enough things, because they suck at the hero. Killing one hero at the same rate they need to get back from spawn isn't very good.

Being on fire 90% match as Roadhog isn't an accomplishment because that hero generates points by feeding ults.
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>>145742690

THIS IS WHY NOBODY LIKES GOOKS
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>>145743312
This desu fambalam

focusing on tweaks to my aim or positioning. its only quickplay afterall
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>>145743157
I'm fine with a Lucio not being hyper aggresive, what really irks me is when they don't hit the shift button.
Wall riding can be pretty exhausting to use game after game after game if you're doing it like mad on certain maps, but why even play Lucio if you
1.) Don't use speed boost
2.) Can't fucking contest
A Lucio that can't hold an objective is fucking worthless.
A Lucio that doesn't understand their ult is amazing for initiation and not just a counter to pharah which they'll pop way too late anyways is fucking worthless.
A Lucio that can't hit anything is fucking worthless.
Just play Mercy ffs senpai.
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>>145740354
Roadhog
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>>145743342
it's a meme people are pushing
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>>145743350
no, turret range is 40 meters
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>>145743312
>It's the opposite for me. Knowing that nothing i do truly matters, I focus instead on improving my own skill instead of focusing on winning.
>instead on improving my own skill instead of focusing on winning.


HOLY SHIT
why i didnt thought about this before?

i stopped playing another heroes because i always tried to win but with forced 50 doesnt matter anyways

d.va was my most played on the beta and i simply stopped because of that
thanks for opening my eyes anon
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Mei smells like chinese food.
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>>145743357
>$67
Negro what
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>>145738993
>tfw 51.8% winrate
>tfw your Pharah winrate is 62.6%
>the rest of your heroes are sub-50
who /onetrickpony/ here?
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>>145743157
Depends on the map, but I tend to stay about as far behind my teammates as I can, preferably behind some form of cover, unless they're really desperate for health of course.

I really only play Lucio on KOTH when no one else picks him, so I don't have a lot of experience with wall riding, but whenever I try it just seems so glitchy and hard to do with any kind of fluid movement unless I have speed boost active, which pretty much negates the reason I play him in the first place.

I like winning, and my idiot team/friends enjoy soaking up damage.
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>>145740397
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>>145742854
I also have d.va most played, it's really fun. Unfortunately the majority of time it feels like lacking, bit on a weak side.
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>>145743441
she truly is bae
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>>145743291
>>145743327
>Buying the Origins preorder on G2A then chargebacking with PayPal and getting the game for free
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>play a few games
>beer run
>get home
>Can't Connect to Servers

Fuck you, Blizzard, you fucking faggots. I just want to play some Overwatch, you assholes. Let me in.
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>>145742389
When will we be able to play Rein's grandson?
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>>145743498
Pocket Sand Dale needs to shut the fuck up
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>he unironically complains about forced 50/50
how to spot retards doing a liberal arts degree who have never had to take a statistics course in their life

if you win 50% of your games, it just means that you're at your correct MMR for your skill, not that the system is conspiring against you because it thinks it's your turn for a loss lmao
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>>145743394
>feeding ults.

so don't do damage unless you kill the only person you're shooting at

teamwork means you have to actually make an effort disrupting/damaging the enemy team

even then roadhog usually gets one hit kills anyway
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>join match
>DEFEAT
>join another match
>Time: 20 seconds
>pick hero
>DEFEAT
>join another game
>OVERTIME
>leave base like bat out of hell
>DEFEAT
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>>145743482
>admitting to a felony
have fun in the party van
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>>145743453
>tfw 69% Winrate with Pharah
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post and judge each other five least played heroes

lucio is my 5th most played btw


also game is working now
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>>145743237
so are you suggesting you would provide a download code?
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>>145743579
not working over here, fampai
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>>145743271
yea i'm talking out of my ass here
???
i've literally done this so many times
mercys aren't that smart my man
i figure they think "hey it's lucio, i can take him on for sure!"

>>145743405
i agree with everything here

>>145743457
i see what you're saying
you sure can play him as a pure healer and try to stay out of trouble if you don't really enjoy playing him all that much
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nothing on official ow twitter

wtf is this
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>>145742002
i'd examine her if you know what i mean
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>>145743579
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>>145743482
>admitting to committing felony fraud on a website heavily monitored by the FBI
what did he mean by this?
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>>145743350
40 meters. Reinhardt's charge goes for 50 meters before stopping so you can go and test just how far it reaches.
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>>145743141
hitting pharahs from the ground i still am shaky with, but when I use the c4 and jump straight up I have decent success. only problem is that leaves you as a free kill for a good widow, or if you miss a free kill for the pharah if they're competent.

as another anon said if you see a zarya then you gotta change up your plan a bit, as a smart zarya will just build up free charge off you
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>>145743618
>tfw when lucio pushes an ulting reaper away from himself directly into you
T-thanks...
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>>145743604
Retail key you can claim on Battle.net, yeah.
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>Team gets completely raped by the stacked enemy team
>they all say gg at the end
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>>145743579
>he doesnt play zenyatta
>he doesnt play mercy

either a tier hugger or a tracer main
>>
DLC to alter model proportions when ?
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>>145743618
>i figure they think "hey it's lucio, i can take him on for sure!"

I love when Reinhardts or D.vas charge me and I just speed boost and blast them back/off track once they get close.

Even if they don't get hurt by it much it's great just ruining their plans.
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>>145741897
I don't even dislike her as a character, but:
>still like her as a woman?
She's literally a brainwashed zombie who murdered her family.
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>>145743667
This feels like a stealth loss edit.
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>>145743721
I would be ok with having huge hitbox in exchange for dat booty.
>>
>tfw living in the well as Lucio on Ilios
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>>145743726
>implying I give Lucios the opportunity
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>>145743579
>10 minutes with Zarya
Get with the meta, fampai
>>
IF YOU INSISTS ON GIVING ME FUCKING GREY GREY BLUE GREY AT LEAST LET IT BE FUCKING DUPLICATES OR SOMETHING FFS
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>>145743778
>free
Bitch I said I needed CSGO keys in return or something.
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>>145742260
67
Almost I wonder how most people I get teamed up with are even smart enough to be alive.
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>>145741897
She's such a tryhard edgelord character played completely straight but everyone decides to bitch about Reaper for some reason.
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>>145743331
>It means you are constantly going against people as good as you.
Sure if the game was 1v1, but it isn't.
Learn some math.
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>>145743721
fund it
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Servers back up!
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>>145743728
>sexy french blueberry
>perfect in every way except...
>brainwashed drone who murdered her family

Yeah, it's a bit of a let down...
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>>145743732
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>>145743778
He said he wants to sell them for CSGO keys, anon.
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>>145743829
Reaper is obviously satire, Widow not so much.
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So as Bastion I'm supposed to be constantly moving around and relocating my sentry mode instead of camping in one spot right? Just started trying him out and want to get the hang of him.
>Tfw easily adapted to noticing Genji's reflect startup and haven't died to one at all

My aim is still shit though, what sensitivity do you guys play on?
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Which one of you disgusting thirsty neckbeards was this

kys asap
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>>145743773

that lucio fucked up by being ahead of everybody else anyway
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>>145743482
you dumb fuck
dumb
fuck
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>>145743821
my bad senpai, really tired and misread. i knew something didn't seem right lol
>>
>make a game with only 6 players per team and short matches
>people can just leave

it's like blizzard are a bunch of fucking idiots or something
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>>145743843
not over here, still ded
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>>145743557
>>145743667
I did have a valid reason to file the claim though; the Noire skin didn't come with the order and they wouldn't give it to me
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>>145743373
t. retard that die to spam grenades
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has anyone seen a higher level yet?
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>>145743373
(you)
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>>145743880
Are you new/low level?
any competent genji will destroy you, even if your clued on to his reflect
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>>145743453
57.4% win rate with D.Va and 64.7% with Symmetra.

Same amount of hours played on Widowmaker but only like a 46.5% rate. She ain't my best.
>>
Really tired of this "if you dont have lucio or mercy, you lose" meta
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>>145743864
>>145743667
the original
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>>145743976
thanks
this is what I live for
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>>145743921
>join match
>it's a stomp
>people keep shuffling out

Despite this, people think win rate means fucking anything.

>>145743968

I've been out of work basically since OW launched and these fuckers still play this shit more than me. It's insane.
>>
>didn't check my stats for a week
>felt like I kept losing all the time
>even stopped quitting shit games because I don't care anymore
>actually went from 55% to 56% win rate
Well, huh.

Also Lucio is holding at 75% and Zarya at 68%, kinda tempted to just main them until I get to the point where I'm not playing with retards anymore.

>less than 50% win rate with Widow and McCree
Man, I'm bad.
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>>145743985
Widowmaker is rarely not a waste of a slot
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>>145743880
Recon SMG is also good damage.
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>>145743968
not but that reminds me i got put in this yesterday for like 10 seconds
did not even considering staying
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>>145743980
I'm in the 50's, I guess I just don't see good Genjis really
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>>145743453
59% winrate with __Dva
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>>145743921
It's almost like the only mode right now is quick play.

Match length is definitely too short though I agree
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>>145743968
I'm straight NEET and even I don't play this game that much, do these people sleep? Do they eat? What the fuck.
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>>145744014
i'm neet and i can't play this game more than like 2 hours a day. i don't know how this guy did it
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Remember guys Winston has a fat ass
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>>145743842
Why
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>>145743679
I'm sorry
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>>145743342
Forced 50 is the idea that match making will intentionally put you in unwinnable games to ensure you never go above 50% win rate. It's something shitters made up to not feel so bad.
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>>145744039
>literally stationary opponents
i want in on your games
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>>145743968
yeah I have seen at least 1 triple star
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>>145743579
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>>145743962
nigger they stated that the Noire skin is not included. Learn to read the fine print. Keep justify stealing
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>>145744009
we gotta maintain the family right m8
>>
the fucking audacity of the people who play this game is amazing

How are you going to die 500 times as bastion on attack then blame the support for not pocketing you constantly

>>145744014
I only care about winrate as much as I don't want to lose because of some fucking bullshit like constantly playing 5v6

It's not like Battlefield where it's 32 vs 32 and 1 team being down a few players matters. Hell even something smaller like COD
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>>145743957
I'm in but the queue times are long as fuck, most people still probably can't get in
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>>145744039
>people grouped up when they hear a Bastion ult
>S76 standing still when you're charging at him
What an absolutely shitty POTG, my low MMR friend
>>
>joing game
>Volskaya
>DEFEND OBJECTIVE B
>9 minutes left
Oh, awesome.
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>>145744050
Man I wish something this stacked happened to me so I could check all their career profiles and finally have proof of how bad the matchmaking is.

Though funny thing is, games like this are going to get more common as the game ages as some people really play a lot without ever improving.
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>>145744038
I played her for that ass. Can't snipe consistently for shit though. I feel like gettng better with Pharah since she was my first hero played. D.Va and Symmetra just happened.
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>>145744143
do all characters deal shit melee damage (besides Reinhardt)?
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>>145743968
how the fuck do they do it, 3 people share the account and play 8 hours each a day?
no other explanation it's insane
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>>145744195
yes
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>>145744195
It's 30 damage per hit for everyone except for Reinhardt and Torbjorn's hammer (75 damage each)
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>>145741290
R8
H8
M8
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>>145744195
They all deal like 30 melee, Reinhardt does 75, and Genji does like 50.
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>>145744106
>It's something shitters made up to not feel so bad.

it's pretty obvious the MM intentionally places people depending on their win rate first

rank only indicates time played more or less, and you can't quantify "skill" with any single stat on each hero

there's literally no other way for it to work
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>>145744228
>hammering a turret
>tracer blinks in to kill me
>hammer her too accidentally
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>>145742771
I would probably ragequit if that happened to me.

t. pharah main
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Didn't they just have server maintenance exactly to prevent shit like this from happening
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>>145740885
Reinhardt, I'm always getting multi 3-4 kills with him. I think the trick to getting kills with him is just stop thinking about your health and just swing away until you wiped everything out or are dead

also, I can play him very effectively with my awful toaster laptop
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>>145744195
yes and its bullshit

>Genji and Roadhog hitting people with fucking weapons deals just as much damage as mei's plump fists jiggling into people
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>>145743968
guy in enemy team that was 300+
was a few days ago.
he played tracer so I just went mccree.
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>>145744252
Genji does 30 too.
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>>145744270
>>145744228
Best way to distract people from your turret when you go Molten Core: beat the shit out of them with a sped-up hammer.
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>>145743842
Not like that, no.
>>
>Guy on other team plays Widow
>Sucks shit and gets stomped first point
>Goes Mei next
>Gets fucked again
>Goes Rage bastion
>Gets fucked even harder

Why are shitters so shit
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>>145744228
>Torb's hammer does 75 damage

HWAT
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>>145742039
this desu
plizzard plz add more maps so i can filter ur shit ones
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>>145744319
>that horrible quality
>>
IT DOESN'T GET ANY MORE RIDICULOUS THAN THIS
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>>145744359
>koth
>absolutely fucking stomp first round
>absolutely fucking get stomped 2nd and 3rd

Pugs just work in mysterious ways anon.
>>
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK
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>>145744418

maybe you need to just uh, git gud brah

>he doesn't carry teams from the spawn menu
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>>145742426
>same situation, remember SC2 was a thing by playing d.va
>play sc2 for the first time in 6 years for funsies
>have absolutely no idea what the fuck im doing but i'm in bronze league so it doesn't matter
>cheese some faggot with 3-gate void rays
>>
>>145744381
See? Size doesn't matter!
>>
>>145744381
You didn't know? Anon, think of all the knees you could have been bashing in.
>>
Are the servers back up yet?
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>>145744398
hence why I mentioned my awful toaster laptop. I literally cant play most classes efficiently at all times because my computer holds me back but, Reinhardt works through awful computers
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>>145744421
I have actually figured this out

>round 1 one team picks hanzo, genji, Hanzo, Hanzo, Hanzo, Hanzo, Genij,
you get the picture
>round 2 they pick Winston, Mercy, Rein, Junkrat, and other low skillfloor heroes
>round 3 same shit
>other team won round 1 aka: the let me pick retarded shit round
>thinks that since they won a single round with their retarded shit that its ok to not switch


this is the source of that bullshit
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>>145744381
on molten core it gets even more ridiculous with the attack speed.
no reason to ever do that though since rivet gun exists.
>>
>Schools let out for summer
>Huge increase in shit talking and shit teammates
Every fucking year.
>>
>>145744441

not as bad as 6 torbjorns

at least you can be 100% safe from junkrat as pharah
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>>145744261
What does that have to do with forced 50? Of course your MMR is adjusted when you win and lose, just like every other competent matchmaking system ever devised. That's a very different thing from the conspiracy theory that it sabotages your games by intentionally setting up uneven matches to manipulate your winrate, which is what some people actually believe.
>>
why is masteroverwatch so terrible

whatever you sort by it's flaweed
the damage average per minute would be good, if they made it so you'd have to have 30 hours minimum, because it's a lot easier to do good for 2-3 hours than it is to do good consistently
instead the whole list is trash
>>
>>145744497
I was talking about the abysmal bitrate of the WEBM, anon.
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>>145744527
Yea it must be something with composition but it also happens when teams have kinda legit comps.
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>>145744495
I got back in but other people still can't. It's basically luck.
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>>145741290
Hanzo has shitty stats because I literally only played him in the first 3 days after release and almost never since.

S76 has shitty stats because I literally only play him with shitty teams when I feel like I need to do everything myself.

Lucio and Zarya have inflated stats because they're OP.

Junkrat feels reasonably representative of my skill level with him.
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>>145744573
The matchmaking in this game is dogshit though.
>>
>>145740458
The melee animation takes 1 second to complete in the same way. Unscoping takes .5 seconds and scoping takes .5 seconds. They're identical.

Next you're going to say that Reaper reloads quicker by meleeing, which is also untrue because melee actually puts a complete pause on any other timers, as confirmed by Blizzard.
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Everything in this potg literally lined up perfectly for this to happen holy shittt
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>>145742378
Be honest. Did you call him a nigger?
>>
>>145744558
Between this and the hammer conversation, I now want to do an all-Torb shit-match where everybody just parks their turrets at the edge of their range and goes in swinging.
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>>145744418
free xp though?
>>
Lucio nerfs WHEN?
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>>145744639
Yeah, free 0 XP
>>
>>145744551
Australian winter holidays begin at the end of next week. Get ready for another retard influx.
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Whichever one of you this is should just kill yourselves desu
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>>145744632
>that flying pharah kill
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>>145741290
r8
>tfw my shitty Mercy winrate
>>145744418
It doesn't count if you didn't spawn in, anon.
>>145744639
You get zero XP.
>>
>>145744668
Probably not any time soon.

Maybe, if he proves too strong in ranked, they'll have his self-heal effect him a wee bit less.
>>
>>145744671
well at least your loss counter goes up so you'll have to play one frustrating game less
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>>145744573
>the conspiracy theory that it sabotages your games by intentionally setting up uneven matches to manipulate your winrate

the blizzard guy said it uses "skill" as a metric for matchmaking as well

it's not hard to suspect this is represented by the player rank, because you often see matches where the spread is insane (50s vs prestiged 50s, etc)

more often than not, those matches = a loss for the lower rank simply due to inexperience

this also works the other way by instances where teams have 5 low ranks and 1 much higher (the player whose MMR got too high)

but that's just how I see it
>>
>>145744573
they believe that they are much better than they are

w/e that effect is called

but they genuinely believe that the system is out to get them

that if they win like 3 games in a row it was soley because they deserved those wins and outplayed their opponents
then when they lose 4 games after that they believe that it is because the system saw that they had won 3 games in a row and decided to pick out players who are actually ringers/chimps that the algorithm pulls from the bottom of the player pool and puts them into said persons game with the malicious intent of forcing that singular player to lose
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>>145744756
Dunning-Kruger effect
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Great way to send people in to an autistic fit of rage online.

Note: This works with any FPS but it's especially effective on Overwatch for some reason.

>If you get POTG or get like 4 gold medals or something just wait and then type.
>"Haha and im using an xbox one controller haha"
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So now the 2 biggest cunt hero's have been nerfed is everyone gonna hate me as Bastion player again?
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>>145744631
Reaper gets to do 30 damage while reloading and shave off few frames from his animation.
That's it.
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>>145744727
He's just too good. He outheals Mercy, has an ult that's even better than hers, and doesn't struggle with traditional counters like Tracer to Mercy. Why does he even get to switch to speed AND wall jump all day? Shit gets even more unfair when you play against a good Lucio.
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>>145744810
They'd hate you for it regardless, but fuck 'em, you do you.
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>>145744810
people above lvl 30 will just rek your shit
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>>145741357
+100% movement speed when he has no orbs out. +50% with either Discord or Harmony orb on somebody. Normal movement speed with both orbs out.
He really needs to stop being a giant floating target.
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>>145744756
>they believe that they are much better than they are

this doesn't explain the series of total steamrolls that happen occasionally

either the MM simply sucks and that's the result or it's "working" and forcing the MMRs of those involved to adjust
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>genji keeps getting pooped on
>switches to tracer

Why would he think the harder to play character would make him good
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>>145744810

I don't give a shit aboput you desu. You're a free kill
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Are noire keys still like $30?
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>>145744573
>forced 50
nah,
but blizzard is known to match players by team average, instead of putting those with similar rates together.
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>>145744869
>occasionally
More like, most of the fucking time. You get maybe 1-2 close games every 10 steamrolls.
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how do i queue with and against people my level
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>>145744871
>tracer harder than genji
Man I fuck shit up with tracer, but I'm completely useless with genji
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>>145744871
i'd like to think in that situation its someone trying to git gud with genji, failing, and then realizing that the team still needs a flanker and is giving tracer a shot.
but i know in reality its probably just "oh tracer looks cool"
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>>145744810
People get mad at every hero in this game. The concept of switching to a counter is foreign to them even though they may lose to same hero over and over again and never switch.
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>>145744936
there's not a single situation Genji can't run away from
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>>145744790
But I do use an xbox one controller and get potg all the time
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>>145744871

In what universe is Tracer actually harder to play
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>>145744936
Just wall jump like a sugar rush sperg
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>>145743567
>listing a reward

Late as fuck, but who wouldn't want the first part desu.
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>>145744632
kek that flying kill
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>>145744921
Matchmaking is perfect, how dare you question ou- uh, Blizzard's methods?
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Why did you guys kill /btbg/?
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>>145744990

Tracer requires at least an understanding of the map/surroundings in order to not completely fuck up.

With Genji it's just a matter of panicking and climbing/double jumping anywhere.
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>Lucio isn't a real healer
The shit randoms say
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>>145744573
If it's the same one Blizzard used before it puts teams of average MMR against each other, which can often result in something like 5 mediocre players and one shit one against one great player and 5 shit ones.

Plus the fact that you'll sometimes be put against a stack as team full of solo players combines to provide some extremely unfun games.

Though I have definitely been put in games that seem extremely unbalanced as if the game was trying to make one team lose, but I usually just leave those, and I'm not convinced the game is trying to force you to lose as a goal in and of itself as it wouldn't make sense.
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>>145744815
Reaper can also Que up a teleport and then jump and shoot to cancel it resulting in the next two shots coming out at around .2 seconds faster than if he had just shot normally

it sounds a little absurd but I have actually been using it to kill people that I sneak up on instantly rather than giving them a chance to react

>>145744869
>this doesn't explain steamrolls

sure it does
the matchmaking system picks people out that have simlar rating as you, though it is invisable right now it is there. You get placed into a game and multiple people on your team are playing characters they aren't good at while the enemy team is playing their best hero

its not some kind of crazy magic system set up to fuck over just you and only you

I write algorithms like this daily and I would be willing to bet that all it does is calculate an average skill level as some number and then plucks other people out of matchmaking that fall within a standard deviation of that number.

its not out to get you
its probably not even super complex
its just a simple mathematical equation

that's it
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>20 tick

When is Blizzard going to fix this?
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>>145745020

Because it's a bad game and Gearbox went full kike with it.

>>145745047

Try playing against not dumpster ass players as Genji and say that m8.
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>>145745020
Please stop bringing up that irrelevant dead game
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I know you guys don't play video games but can anyone else not log in?
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>>145744810
unless my team is retarded, Bastion is free kill and free win
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>>145744252
Genji's melee is 30, the dash is 50.
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>>145744630
Yeah, and there's a lot of reasons for that. The biggest one is how important team composition is and how few players adequately play every role and hero, which means you're bound to have matches where players of similar MMR will perform very differently because it's completely up to chance whether any group of 6 players actually makes a full team.

There's also other minor factors like how new the game is so everyone's rating is still settling in, and in my experience it seems to value short queue times too aggressively compared to MMR which should be the absolute highest priority.

Still, none of this implies that it predicts a winning team. That would be fucking stupid. It's as much a problem of game design as it is matchmaking, because wins and losses aren't enough information in this kind of game to consistently build good matches out of, especially since you don't queue for any specific role or hero and are expected to swap mid-game as needed.
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>>145745065
When WoW is truly kill and they can start repurposing old WoW servers.
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>>145745087
been trying for an hour

I play video games, honest
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>>145745058
>You get placed into a game and multiple people on your team are playing characters they aren't good at while the enemy team is playing their best hero

LOL

that's some mighty shaky reasoning you have there

>I write algorithms like this daily and I would be willing to bet that all it does is calculate an average skill level as some number and then plucks other people out of matchmaking that fall within a standard deviation of that number.

how else would it calculate an average "skill level" than by simply pulling rank

there is absolutely NO WAY to know how "skilled" someone is by their heroes' individual stats
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Whos better as a solo support lucio or mercy?
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>>145744861
negative, LV60 i still rek plentiful

like they ever learn
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>>145745117
rip
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>>145744921
high levels suck too. Not all of them are good
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>>145745143
zen
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forced 50? playing with me, it's more like forced 60

amirite
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>>145745143
honest answer: lucio
fun answer: zen
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>>145745171
i was utterly crushed this game and my team was essentially 5v6

is there a way i can queue with people who are actually around my game time played?
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>>145744632
>0.17m
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>>145744527
>>145744421
>thinks that since they won a single round with their retarded shit that its ok to not switch
It's not even that, I think it's really just a case of "oh okay we won round 1 with our current team comp (good or bad), we'll just do it again".

Then, if the opposing team has any brains about them, they'll switch classes to counter the winning team, try to work against their tactics, and focus on the enemy players who gave them the most trouble in the previous round.

The third round win usually stems from a big boost in confidence from managing to win round 2, demoralization on the enemy team who just lost, and the fact that the winning team of round 2 is still willing to change classes and counter against the enemy, even if they also change.
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>>145745143
soldier 76
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>>145744815
It doesn't shave a few frames off of his animation, that's purely placebo.

Blizzard explicitly knew people were going to try and abuse melee and originally had it at 2 seconds, now it's 1 second, which will add 1 second and pause any timers if you fuck up and press it too early.


If you melee right when he gets all of his ammunition back on HUD, you're adding 1 second of time to his recovery which would have been .8 seconds from that exact moment. It adds time, it doesn't reduce it.
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>>145745067
>Try playing against not dumpster ass players as Genji and say that m8.

You're right, I was spoiled since I only played Genji once and totally trashed people.
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>>145745143
lucio. U can run away when flanked. Random pubbers dont protect Mercy
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Why is Symmetra labelled as a support hero?

She's THE definition of a defense hero.
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>>145745237
this
fuck playing mercy
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>>145742792
>highlight
kok
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>>145745258
turrets give map awareness
shields literally support everyone but you
your ult affects only your team
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>>145745237
>Random pubbers dont protect Mercy

this is the law

you cannot break it
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>>145745223
76's animation cancels actually do make him faster. I don't know if this was patched out but you can melee almost immediately when you're dashing as Genji and it's a free 30+ damage since it cost you nothing.
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>>145745143
depends on the game mode and team comp
if you have non-zarya tanks mercys almost always better, especially on defense, but certain characters benefit a huge amount from well timed speed boosts when ulting (mccree, 76, genji, etc)
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if (player.winLossRatioPercent > 50) {
group = findGroup(Group.Baddies)
} else {
group = findGroup(Group.Stompers)
}

group.add(player)
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>>145745058
Don't bother m8.

No matter how much you try to reason with them, telling shitters that forced 50/50 isn't real and it's only a figment of their Dunning-Kruger will only strengthen their belief that matchmaking is conspiring to keep them (and only them) down
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>>145745258
well, her shield basically slow arsely heals people for 25 health each time it regens.
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ayyyyyyyy it's working
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>3 times in a row grey/grey/blue/grey
>not even 1 duplicate to compensate

fuck you blizzvision im never giving you a fucking dime go fucking die
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>>145745354
>mercys almost always better
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>Can't buy player icons with currency
Fuck you too Blizzard.
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>>145742234
>>145745417
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>>145745139
like I said

it isn't complex

it probably puts your "skill" rank up when you win by some level based on how far away your teams average "skill" rank was compared to the enemy team's "skill" rank and then puts it down when you lose

like I also said it pulls players within a standard deviation
you can have games where one team is stacked with players on the upper end of that spectrum but thats probably less than 1/10th the time

No Blizzard Boogyman watching your winrate and sending in the clowns when you get to high

the reason you are at a 50% winrate is influenced slightly by who is on your team but the game lacks so much depth that the major determining factor in if you win or lose is what hero you are playing in a given situation.

Even a sub par FPS player can spike their winrate if they understand what hero to play vs. the enemy team

just git gud and understand the very shallow game you are playing better, develop slightly better aim skills/tinker with your sensitivity settings and I can assure you that your winrate will start to go up

Don't expect like 10-15% jumps in the next 100 games or something though
think more like 3-7% changes over the course of the next 500-1000 games
thats the way statistics work

if you make sure to win 6 out of every 10 games you play you will slowly go up no matter what
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>>145742234
>>145745417
>win loss matters when you can just leave losing games
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>>145745360
how does the system determine the "baddies" from the "stompers" if everybody has a 50% winrate?
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BRRRRING
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>>145745182
>>145741290
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>>145742234
>>145745182
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>>145745314
>mercy needing to be protected

if only she had a button with a 1 second CD where she can fly at a trillion miles a second to behind a teammate
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>>145743702
press P, disable all chat. most people act like bots, they might as well not be able to talk either
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>>145745116
It doesn't and forced fiddy is a meme, but still the matchmaking fucks you or the enemy team over hard most of the time. It's really pathetic. 80% of my wins this week were one-sided stomps. Same for most of the losses.
This shit shouldn't happen, just like you shouldn't get a half-retarded Widow main missing every shot on your team vs a team that actually combos ults and uses flanking routes.
I have to face coordinated teams that play for the objective while my team just scatters and barely even shows in the killfeeds. This means someone's out of their depth and neither me or my team should be playing against those people as we're clearly inferior.
I also face people who are straight out better than me or anyone on my team. Mechanically better, better awareness, better coordination. This means the matchmaking isn't working as it should at all.
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>>145745598
you haven't played mercy have you
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>>145745598

what we mean is

>follow teammates
>somebody starts attacking you specifically
>everyone ignores it and keeps going forward, or something similar

it is what it is
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why doesn't lucio have a ridiculous brazilian accent
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>>145745360
lol fuck off virgin nerd
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>>145742234
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I am about to play Zenyatta exclusively for 2 hours of played time. Wish me luck
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>>145745638
>I also face people who are straight out better than me or anyone on my team.
>This means the matchmaking isn't working as it should at all.
That doesn't follow. In fact, that more than likely shows that matchmaking is working just as it's intended to.

Most matchmaking systems will give you unfavorable matches just to see if you've gotten better

If you beat someone who should be "straight out better" than you, you get a huge MMR/elo boost.
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>>145745558
in the rare case everyone has an exact 50% winrate, everyone would be put in the findGroup(Group.Stompers)

the method will time out after a while when not finding any Stompers and add the players randomly
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>>145745182
I have no idea why Junkrat is in there, I hate playing him.
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>>145745348
While dashing? Does it end the dash?
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>>145745524
yea except im pretty sure ur the only sperg that would
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>>145745675
>welding in a bikini
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>>145745558

50% is the goal, it obviously will not ever be achieved because of deviations, that's the point ya dingus

>>145745495
>you can have games where one team is stacked with players on the upper end of that spectrum but thats probably less than 1/10th the time

it's a lot more than that, that's why people suspect it's intentional
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>>145745786
I'm not the one bragging about it like it matters :^)
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>>145745724
Before you do, pick up the "Hello, World" voiceline
Peace and Blessings be upon you, brother
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>>145745754
yes that makes much more sense than just doing things by elo/glicko-like system like almost every matchmade game in existence

Forced 50/50 memers are idiots I'm pretty sure now.
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>>145745909
>yes that makes much more sense than just doing things by elo/glicko-like system like almost every matchmade game in existence

matchmaking is cancer anyway

quickplay should be a random free for all
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>>145745618
>tfw bots wait for each other at spawn when they die so they can go in as a group
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>>145745909
you take this shit way too seriously
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>Iron Giant the D.va nuke away
>actually push it toward where the team was hiding
>lose the game
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>>145745752
It shouldn't happen, because even if me and let's say 2 more people on my team are on their level or can even compete, the rest can't and we get stomped.
You cannot win a game alone or duo it vs a team that works together, not in Overwatch, it's just impossible.
And especially not when the matchmaking system averages team ratings, because then that amazing player who actually counters and guns for high value targets and plays the objective is going to feel robbed. I've seen it happen too many times. Once I kinda followed an amazing Rein and Reaper as Lucio, providing barriers and healing and speed boostos and shit and trying very hard not to die.
But the rest of the team was literally braindead. The "got killed by Junkrat better switch to Junkrat" and "Bastion deploying out of spawn when we're attacking Hanamura B" tier braindead.
They tried, they couldn't cut it, they lost. How is it fair for those players? They were absolutely amazing, gaining ground on enemy team just the two of them. Why were they punished like this?
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>>145741290
>>145745767
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>>145745752

this isn't a 1v1 game
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>>145745675
>Says fuck off virgin nerd
>Posts virgin bait picture
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>>145745670
if only you had a button with 1 second CD that put you BEHIND a teammate
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>normally get matched with high lvl players
>everyone knows what they are doing and how to play objectives
>today
>get matched with lvl 12and lower in my team that don't even know how the hero works they are playing

wtf is this matchmaking blizz
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Do you think any of the women in Overwatch have hairy assholes?
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VERY important vote

http://www.strawpoll.me/10506779
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>>145746051
Tracer's english so yeah probably
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>>145745983
>because even if me and let's say 2 more people on my team are on their level or can even compete, the rest can't and we get stomped.
just carry harder shitter

if you can't have a game-changing impact then that's nobody's fault but your own
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>>145745558
then blizzard calls their on staff professional players, gets them to log onto one of their many dummy "Enforce the 50/50" accoutns and injects them into your game

>>145745828
do you have proof?
because from what I can see you have about as much proof as I do except a basic understanding of Statistics places a little bit more weight onto my side of the argument

if you think that the majority of the games you lose are complete stomps then you are falling victim to another physiological effect where people tend to remember the outstandingly good and outstandingly bad situations in their life more vividly than the mundane.

when you have a game that goes to the last point and the defending team holds but you weren't doing particularly well or bad you will often forget about that game moments later. This will happen dozens if not hundreds to thousands of times during your online gaming career. You will vividly remember the games where you got stomped and then your brain fools you into thinking that this is where the majority of your losses come from when in reality those are probably less than 1/10th of the games you lose. The majority are the ones where you seemd to be winning but not crushing and things just kind of didn't go in your favor, boring, mundane, not worth remembering.

its also a reason many players have an inflated sense of skill since they remember the games they did very well in better than the games they sucked in and think this is the norm when the majority of the time they just play average
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>>145746051
Symmetra and Zarya
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>>145745909

>Forced 50/50 memers are idiots I'm pretty sure now.

You don't fucking say?
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I thought they would add some skins with the patch, the only one I like is genji but I cant play him and dont wanna ruin the rest of the team game to play a champ I suck just for a skin
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>>145745969
>roadhog
>d.va nuke jetting in
>hook is already flying at it because reflex
>ohfuckohfuckohfuck
>end up getting people killed who wouldn't have otherwise
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>>145746061
they're both bad
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>>145746061
hayseed is shit
jailbird, toasted and jester are the best
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>>145745969
Just put up your shield and block it.
>playing Hanamura on defense
>point B
>my shield breaks
>D.va ults and starts emoting
>I push it back into her
>die but take her with me
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>All the shitty widowmakers are even worse now

POTTERY
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>>145745675
>welding in a bikini
>calls others virgin nerds
i bet you can't even change your car's oil faggot
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>>145746061
Anubis
>>145746065
Do English chicks really have hairy buttholes?
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>>145746038

you're not understanding this

the shit also requires LOS and room to actually move

>here come the comments about being shit even though we're talking about teammates not covering mercy
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>>145746045
Level does not equal skill tho xDDdd
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God damn when you play well with Zarya you feel fucking invincible.
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>>145745558
>>145745754
>>145745909
Winrate has nothing to do with ELO, else the forced 50 people would be right and the system IS aritficially forcing you into 50% winrate, rather than naturally doing so through ELO-like matchmaking
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Who should I pick?
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>>145746176
it's your job to keep LOS
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>>145746239
those are some ridiculously ugly faces

why is torbs nose a penis?
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>>145746239
i can't tell if those are hideous redesigns or just incompetent attempts to copy the originals
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>>145746239
hanzo bastion and widow look absolutely terrible
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>>145746170

They live on an island. What do you expect?
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>>145746045

means you are so bad, that the lowlevel players have the same MMR as you
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>>145743765
>tfw seeing fags like you and throwing a flashbang as mc cree at you :^)
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>>145746170
most women have hairy buttholes but wax or shave
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>>145746237
right, that's my point. Winning 50% of your games just means that you are at the 'correct' MMR/elo for your current skill level, your impact on the game is equal to the average impact of your opponents

but "le forced 50/50" redditors seem to think that the matchmaking system explicitly says "whoa this faggot won 4 games in a row, better put him with retards before his winrate goes too high!!!"
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>>145746237
the thing is that if a system like that would work the matches should put 12 people with the exact same ELO to play each other

the forced 50 meme is because people perceive it as having to play against insane enemies one round and against idiots with downs the next
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>>145746075
>because from what I can see you have about as much proof as I do except a basic understanding of Statistics places a little bit more weight onto my side of the argument

asking for proof that consecutive steamrolls happen when MM is supposedly working

then

structuring an argument around shoddy reasoning and literally making shit up to support it because "hey I am a coder I know stuff"

are you real?

people are not getting nonstop close matches and having a bitch fit about one steamroll

they get a close match seemingly by pure chance, then steamrolls one way or the other for the next bunch until their matches played is cut in half by wins

it's plain as day there's some brute force skill "balancing" happening here, and until there are folks who show deviations DO happen by having consistently high or low winrates, that's how people are going to call it
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POST SMUG MERCY
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I wish this shit was a forced 50% winrate. Lately all I'm getting is a bunch of teammates who refuse to fucking do anything.
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Why is Bastion so goddamn comfy to play, even at LV80 these braindead people still fall for it
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>>145745752
Games where your team is pitted against a more skilled team can go 3 ways:
1. You get stomped
2. You lose but it's not actually a stomp
3. It's a super close victory, a total nailbiter
For 3 to happen you need the entire team to be similarily skilled and objective oriented. Which thanks to the averaging MMR won't happen, as you'll ALWAYS have one or more people who aren't pulling their weight. And to win something like that you need EVERYONE to pull their weight.
Hence you aren't going to win these.
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>>145746182
>>145746345
if matchmaking would work that way i wouldn't even care.
but this "average out" the whole mmr is bullshit in a team game
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>tfw you push genji's shit in as mei
YOU CAN'T REFLECT THE ICE BEAM
YOU CAN'T ESCAPE THE ICICLES
YOU CAN'T ULT ME WITH ICE BLOCK UP

DIE BITCH DIE
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>>145741467
haha
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>>145746345

or it means he's so good, the game is trying to get him to help the lower ranks, or lose to balance his stats out
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>>145742234
I haven't dipped under 55% yet and my win rate actually slightly improved recently despite not leaving games anymore(other than rare instances like joining a game before it started but after everyone picked and there's no support nor tank).

Though I basically went from 60% to 55% in a single weekend, but that was shortly after launch and I've been holding since.
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>>145746390
You recover from it before falling to death unless you're below halfway there.
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>>145746559
dumb frogposter
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>>145746493
There are numerous people in this thread above 50%

>>145742234
>>145745417
>>145745594
>>145745696

Maybe you are just not as good as you think you are and you don't perceive your own mistakes.
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>>145745769
Doesn't seem to. You can see it here. This guy got most of his info from another video on animation canceling but it's in the description or comments of another video I can't be arsed to sift through.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DOaHJTbsbTM
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Post em faggots.
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>>145746664
>There are numerous people in this thread above 50%

50%-60% is not "high"

in fact that perfectly accounts for their individual skill which occasionally results in carried teams
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>>145746641
t. genji shitter
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>>145746065
>you will never eat out Tracer's hairy little butthole
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>>145746559
>playing against genjis so shit they can't even headshot you from far away and then combo ohko you down
Please.
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>>145742076
>40% wr
nah
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>tfw Meis go into an iceblock when I'm giving them a mouthful of my rape-beam as Zarya
>say "I will break you"
>kill them when they unfreeze and spray "Well played" next to their corpse
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FAT GREASY SMELLY CRUTCH CHARACTER
OVERWEIGHT FAT FUCKING CHINKCUNT
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>>145746725
>in fact that perfectly accounts for their individual skill which occasionally results in carried teams
So you admit that forced 50/50 is a stupid meme and that a good player can solo carry "forced loss" teams? k then, glad we agree.
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>>145746769

why can't zarya look more like a girl?
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>>145746493
>people are not bitching about one steamroll

sure they are

they get steamrolled one game and go and complain about it on reddit/4chan/blizzard forums and then think back to how many times they had been steamrolled that day
they think
"Man I think I got wrecked like 10 times today"
but little did they know that they played about 70 games

the brain conveniently forgets all the games that were "close" but uninteresting

you don't lose 9/10 games you play in under 2 min
you don't get held at point A in 9/10 games

it just doesn't happen
its statistically impossible

if this were the case then you would have a large portion of the player base with 90% winrates because they were lucky and got the stomping side every game

the system doesn't maliciously go after people
how would it even fucking do that?
have some method set up to see if the guy is winning games today
yep ok time to rain on his parade

you understand that you are not the only player right?
the game has to be populated by 11 other players

the system can't be looking out to shit on you and just you

if it did that then you would also have players getting 90% winrates because they were constantly selected to be shitting on you whiel you would also have players with 10% winrates because they would be the pool of players selected to be grouped with you when you need to lose

multiple people in this thread at this very moment have and can maintain a 55-60% winrate and some can probably get even higher

the system isn't out to get you because it simply cannot be set up to do that

if this is all bait though gj
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what are some comfy team comps
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>>145746769
>Mei keeps putting up shitty ice walls
>smack them with hammer
>gold medal in damage dealy with 12000
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What do you guys think, would Zarya and McCree be a good match?
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>>145741290
How do you thrashmouse
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>>145746517
because you are a shitter
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>>145746702
Sorry sorry sorry.
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>>145746883
oh
Please reference my excellent and highly rated guide a few posts up

>>145742785
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>>145746517
highest dps in the game by a factor of 5 or some stupid shit like that

idk how that's supposed to be balanced
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>>145746838
Do multiple Mercy beams even stack? I know that healing beams don't but what about damage boosts? Probably not, right?
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>>145746814
>So you admit that forced 50/50 is a stupid meme and that a good player can solo carry "forced loss" teams? k then, glad we agree.

just like how there are bads who, despite forced 50, will sit in the mid 40% range

there are always exceptions

the system will attempt to place them better, but they are individually bad players that better ones can only carry so well

lets see some people with 300+ games that have more than 70% wins or losses
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>>145746517
>bastion
>viable after lvl 40
> not free kill
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>>145742076
Jesus and I thought my McCree was bad.
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>>145746980
He's still fine on defence if you dont sit in one spot and go recon mode sometimes and jump into unexepcted spots
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>>145746825
Because she is strong Russian woman.Never had a thing for muscle girls but she definitely does it for me.
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>>145746702
remove ice bitch
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>>145746826
>they get steamrolled one game
>they think
>"Man I think I got wrecked like 10 times today"

you're a moron

>you don't lose 9/10 games you play in under 2 min
>you don't get held at point A in 9/10 games

>it just doesn't happen
>its statistically impossible

it happens, and it's enforced by the system

otherwise it /wouldn't/ happen

if MM was working correctly steamrolls would be very rare
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>>145746980
>bastion is always alone and not sitting at a vantage point with Reinhardt/Mercy
how to spot the low MMR shitter
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>>145746152
I do not own a car because I live in a civilized country that isn't controlled by auto manufacturing interests
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What indicates skill more on masteroverwatch, higher total score ranking than score/min or higher score/min ranking than total score?
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>>145747052
>if MM was working correctly steamrolls would be very rare
That's not how matchmaking works, especially this early on when there's a lot of uncertainty

Matchmaking matches you up against weaker players to see if you truly deserve your MMR
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>>145747080
I always enjoy breaking up that little party.
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>>145746825
I wish they made her look more like the girl she's modeled after. I also wish her lines were properly translated to Russian.
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>Mercys damage boost doesn't apply when the weapon is fired, but when Mercy changes to damage boost
>Projectiles already in flight will gain damage boost even if it is applied after firing

HO
LY
SHIT

This has to be a bug
This is ridiculously good for slow rate of fire heroes like Pharah, just keep heal beam on them at all times and tap damage boost when their rocket is about to hit
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Holy shit junkrats burst damage is so stupid

>250 hp
>INSTANTLY die
>dont even drop to a lower hp just 250-0 before i can even react or fall back
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>>145747080
>half a team dedicated to covering one vantage point

this only works against retards
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>>145747080
How much does a buffed bastion hit for?
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>there are actually people who are mean to Mei
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>>145747123
Higher score/min than total score.

A high total score only shows that you play a lot
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>>145747175
You really walked into it m8! Does junkrat have the best bantz?
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>>145747123
The second one. To get a ranking on masteroverwatch I'm pretty sure you need a certain amount of games with that hero, so it's not like you can have one incredible game with Pharah and be the #1 Pharah in the world by score/min.

If you have high score/min, it shows that you're consistently good rather than just playing a hero a lot.
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>>145747213
score/min leaderboards are full of 3 hours shitters so the ranking is worthless
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>>145747173
Fixing it will require a mini overhaul because as it is, it's just setting a "Damage boost? y/n" flag when calculating damage instead of marking each projectile as boosted or not.
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>>145747052
Steamrolls don't happen that often

Either you are retarded and are falling prey to your own selective memory or you are baiting

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are baiting so I won't be responding anymore after this
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>Mei is canon tsundere for Junkrat

What a random pairing
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>>145747209
Mei is an overpowered shitter
When she gets balanced so she's not so good at distance and at close range then you can bitch about people being mean.
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>>145746967
They do, but only for 30% of the original damage.

So it's not like (100% x 1.3) x 1.3 but rather 100% + 30% + 30%
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If you're a Tracer
GET ON THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE
If you're a Reaper
GET ON THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE
If you're a Genji
GET ON THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE

NO EXCUSES
That goes for everyone else too except Widow and Bastion
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>>145746315
because torb's nose is a penis
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>>145747298
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>>145747329
No, both of those can get on the point too.
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>>145747151
>especially this early on
They had a year of beta to figure it out.
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>>145747151
>That's not how matchmaking works, especially this early on when there's a lot of uncertainty

so now I'm sitting here thinking that was what someone would say, and you said it

there's a reason the blizzard devs are trying to be quiet about it, and they claim MM works "better" for competitive

>Matchmaking matches you up against weaker players to see if you truly deserve your MMR

or, since this is a team game, it puts you up with bads so you'll either help them win (rare deviation) or your high MMR gets lowered (almost guaranteed, and if not, the process repeats)
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>>145742785
Thanks for the guide, I'm going to be carrying teams in no time
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>>145747349
>Brrr. I get cold just looking at ya.
>Then you should look somewhere else.
Does Mei have a secret crush on Junkrat?
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>>145741290
>Reinhardt nearly back in the 50s
Noice.
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>>145747360
Can. But at least those have legitimate reasons not to be there
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>>145747329
If it's down to where flankers need to be on point it is an all or nothing thing.
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>>145747294
>Steamrolls don't happen that often

Maybe you just don't win enough to have them happen :)
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>>145747371
If you can't carry 5 bads against 6 mediocre players, then you're closer in skill to the 'mediocre' players than you think. Not really much more to it.
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16v16 maps when
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>more genjis and tracer around than ever
>only counter is having genjis and tracers yourself

wew
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>>145747407
>letting your winrate with Reinhardt get so low
0/10, familia
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Is Gremlin D.va a good meme?
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>>145741290
Pls no bully
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>>145747390
I don't know, guy I responded to says it's canon, I just like the art.
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>>145747418
>muh flanker

GET ON THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE
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>>145747316

>Mei
>Overpowered

???
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>>145747479
>42% winrate as mercy
BAD girl!
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>>145741290
I just dropped to 49.9% thanks to three defeats on loading almost in a row
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>You're just a no-good bully. How can you even look at yourself in the mirror?
What did she mean by this?
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>30 minutes before I go into surgery
>literally could die
>could be my last day on earth
>decide to play a game of OWG to chill out
>my team
>level 9 and level 3
>hanzo and genji
>level 20 widow
>i'm 60 levels higher then them
>we get absolutely steam rolled
>go to mark as avoid
>I ALREADY HAD THE LEVEL 3 MARKED AS AVOID AND IT WAS THE FIRST MATCH I PLAYED TODAY

HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS HAPPEN BLIZZARD HE HASN'T EVEN PLAYED ENOUGH GAMES WERE THIS IS JUSTIFIABLE HE'S FUCKING LEVEL 3

Anyway I'm off to maybe die, I hope ISIS targets blizzard instead of these faggots desu
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>>145747460

Have you tried playing something else than McCree or Widow?
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Hey faggots, should I buy this game?
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>>145747452
>against 6 mediocre players

but it's not 5 bads and 1 good against 6 mediocre players, because that would be a close match and that's MM working correctly

if it IS against "mediocre" players, and you can't make the difference to win, then yes you are shit
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>>145741290

Lel.
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>>145747487
I agreed with you chuckle fuck and stated that your exception was bullshit, Widow can grapple her jiggly ass onto the point and toaster boy can as well.
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>>145747452
You can't carry in this game. Especially not when your team never even gets close to the objective.
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>>145747462
Can't force people to get behind my shield m8.
If I could I would.
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>>145747462
Not him, but I stopped playing Reinhardt because of how depended you're on your teammates, same with Mercy.

Outside of clutch ult plays or picking single targets off you can do fuck all alone if your team isn't with you.

In contrast Zarya and Lucio and perfectly self sufficient, so I play them instead.
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>>145747389
You're welcome my friend
Just remember though Junkrat is very high skill so don't get discouraged if you can't hit those very precise shift bombs

Another tip that I might have forgot to mention in the basic guide is a really high level tactic but I am starting to use it quite often

This trick involves phycing out your opponent

basically the idea is to make it look like you are aiming for one of their teammaes but this is just a bluff. In reality you are stratigically missing their teammate to bait them into a false sense of security and then kill the target that you were actually aiming for( but doesn't look like you are aiming for) instead. The biggest application of this is predicting when your opponents are going to be around 2 or three corners and way out of line of sight from you. A normal player would have literally no way of knowing that a player was there but since you are a junkrat player you need to use your high level player instincts to gain insight into where enemy players are before they even know where they are.
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>>145747329
>tracer
>not being a cunt and blinking on and off the point to stall overtime
i fucking rage every fucking time this happens as 9 times out of 10 it costs the match
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is anyone else working on a dpi increment macro for mei encounters?
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>>145747565

>higher then them
>then

Is it brain surgery you're getting? Because you sure seem to need it.
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>>145747316
mei is underpowered
her walls and cryo-freeze should reflect projectiles back at enemies with added freeze

also they should freeze enemies looking at them
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>>145747603
>being dependent on your teammates
>not going aggro and giving your enemies a mouthful of precision German engineering
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>>145747587

Pretty sure Beep Boop Fuck You doesn't have a grapple m8
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>>145747603
>you can do fuck all alone if your team isn't with you.

there are only a few heroes that don't absolutely rely on good teamwork to thrive
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What does your tier list look like, anon?
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>>145746702
why was this post removed
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Tracer is cute! CUTE!
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>>145746702
>hotpocket man is mei main
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10506904

http://www.strawpoll.me/10506904

http://www.strawpoll.me/10506904
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>>145745348
Genji's ability to chain stuff by animation canceling is intentional according to Blizzard devs.

The only animation cancel that exists for all heroes (but is really only effective on like... three) is MB(either one)+Melee+Shift.

Source
>I spent four hours on Battle.net forums in the post-nerf Widowmaker thread where Blizzard dev actually responded and clarified why the nerf even happened, they said they may not touch Genji's animation cancel.
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>>145747452
This isn't a game where you can carry a 1v6. People simply take too long to die and your limited health pool wont allow it.
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>>145747647
I wouldn't mind having power shifted onto mei's ice wall and ice block in some way

just take power away from the basic left click and we are good

reduce the slow
increase the time it takes to freeze
reduce her HP

all things that should probably be done but she would defiantly need major compensation for each of them
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>>145746239
>Junkrat
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>>145747669
mods are meis
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>>145746838
>tfw will never be reverse gangbanged by 4 mercys
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>>145747658
My bad that I didn't specify he needs to bop up and down onto it, you get he idea if shit is that bad everyone should be on the point or contesting.
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>>145747638
Good one kid, but nobody in the real world gives a shit about spelling mistakes.

Call me when your balls drop
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>>145747660
Sure, it's a team game, that's the point of it.

But there are heroes than can carry on their own with no support, and there are ones that can't.
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>>145747715
>reduce the slow
>increase the time it takes to freeze
>reduce her HP
the opposite is what needs to happen
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>>145741075
you will get a leave if you leave after team building time and prep time, once the clock starts counting down and until you are in the victory/defeat state, it will count as a leave, prior to that of or in the endgame screen, it doesn't count
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I want to have sex with Widowmaker.
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>>145746967
>I know that healing beams don't
But they do
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>>145747602
>phara x mercy porn was up for literally hours
lel
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yeuh are onrey hueaman!

-Gengi Shimda
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>>145747763
>But there are heroes than can carry on their own

there are heroes that can get kills and make themselves look good despite losing

probably the only way you could actually carry in overwatch is on king of the hill maps where kills are basically the key to winning
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>>145747793
you vanilla motherfucker I bet your favorite band is the beatles
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>shitters thinking Mei is actually overpowered
Did I stumble on to reddit by mistake or something, or are you people seriously that shit?
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>>145747793
that makes you gay
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>Play Mercy
>Watch 3 people from my team get fucked by Symmetra curry ninja lmb shenanigans
>Shoot her myself
WAS IT SO HARD
HOLY FUCK
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>>145743693
what do you want for it?
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>>145747754

>kid
>thinks no one gives a shit about spelling mistakes

Have fun pumping gas for a living.
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>>145747848
see this is funny

because reddit actually does think mei is overpowered
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>>145747783
def not

those are the 3 main sources of frustration surrounding her and those 3 things need to go

power needs to be shifted elsewhere

increase her range
make the ice wall reflect/last longer/have more HP
allow her to Ice block teammates
increase fire rate for icicle

things like this is what needs to happen
but no more of this instant 100% movement speed to 2% movement speed into a freeze 1.5 seconds later into icicle headshot combo

that shit needs to go
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>level 60
>3 min queues

is this game dying?
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>>145742860
how do you even play with that latency?
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People on /v/ were talking about a DDoS attack did I miss something?
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>when you win/lose while mei tries to freeze you and you hit her in the face with your hammer in slow motion
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>>145747898
You should avoid the people on /v/
They are not good people
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>>145747553
>"I thirst for your seed."
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>>145747793
That makes you a gay.
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>>145747886
>allow her to Ice block teammates

it does

buffs for mei is retarded, she does what she's supposed to just fine
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>>145747959
Stop posting literal shit.
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>>145747917
>when you lose the game but you spend the whole time spawn camping their widowmaker preventing her form playing

well worth it tbpvq100%h family
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It's another 2 widowmakers on attack episode.

If I am Reinhardt, someone else should pick Lucio, specifically one of the 2 widowmakers on fucking attack
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>>145747858
I've noticed that people never turn around or think "gee I wonder where I'm taking damage from."
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>>145747869
I probably make more in an hour than you do in a week kiddo
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>>145747898
>/v/
>ever getting their shit together and not eating each other
its been called /b/ jr for a reason
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>>145747891
game is dead

could have been good if it wasn't rigged
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>>145747603
This, I also started playing Zarya, because it the game turns into TDM with the choke, you build up energy and push through.
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>>145747985

it's usually because Symmetra players just circle strafe point blank and people play with normal/low FOV
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>>145747985
She came from the front though, otherwise I wouldn't be so annoyed by this. She fucked over a Pharah, a Soldier and a Genji.
Genji tried to deflect her LMB.
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What did the chinese snow woman ever do to you, son? Did she put too many icicles in your brain?
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>>145748015
It's happened once or twice.
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>>145747842
Nope. Zarya and Lucio which were my examples of self-sufficient heroes aren't good because they can farm kills, but because they can get damage done while staying alive on the objective for an extended amount of time AND supporting their teammates at the same time.
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>playing with friends
>two of us go junkrat
>we pop our ults at the same time
>he drives his directly into the enemy team to distract them
>mine comes from behind and reams them
>two people ask everyone to report us for hacking

I will never stop enjoying this game
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>>145748051
Holy shit that's great, love when Genjis do that when I'm playing Zarya and melting there faces off.
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im getting really goddamn sick of this queue bug kicking me out because i dont like watching potg
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>>145747960
wait are you saying mei can use her ice block on teammates?

I want to say that's bullshit but I haven't really played mei so I don't want to look retarded
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>>145748041
Increasing your FOV is literally cheating stop it
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>>145748136
Their* fuck I need to go to bed.
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>>145748136
Speak for yourself. I had to watch this and try to outheal the 120dps beam while they just hopped around and shot in the air.
Mid-way through Genji I just gave up and started shooting her myself.
You'd think people level like 110 would have faced Symmetra earlier.
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>>145748104

Lucio can't carry if your team can't get their heads out of their asses though. The heals are too slow.

Zarya maybe, if only for the fact that she gets better when people have to focus on her.
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>>145748102
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>>145748161
>can't get a higher FoV because papa blizzard doesn't want bad players getting poopd on
>widowmaker/genji uses their mobility ability and you wildly spin around trying to figure out where the fuck they went

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
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I want to taste her cunt
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>>145748252
>>145748252
New
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>MMR gets lowered because of shitty "i was X first" teammates
>Figure try to get practice as heros I'm not as good with
>Can't even get anything done because other teammates are useless/do nothing all round
>MMR tanks further
it's fucking SMITE all over again for me
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>>145748160
>Jumping in on enemy Widow
>Ice blocked because Mei decided I'm in danger
Yeah nah. Getting cucked by friendly Mei walls is enough.
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>>145748102
huh, last time i was there (before /vg/ was made) it was a toxic hellhole where no one ever did anything
then again, /b/s gotten shit done before too
speaking of which, whats the internet hate machine doing nowadays? havent heard anything in years
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>>145748041
Hol up.

You telling me I can increase my fov? Is this a video setting or an ini change or what?

>>145748161
Fishbowl is the only way to play quake my friend.
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>>145748247

why did they have to ruin that game

it was so great
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>>145747987

>kiddo
>I MAKE TONS OF MONEY
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>>145748217
Honestly after the first person went down I would have just called it a lost cause and started trying to blast her. Don't know how many times I've seen a Reaper ghosting in for his ult and I do majority of the damage with that pea shooter.
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>>145748282
>give the ability for the player to cancel it by pressing shift

fixed
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>>145748310
>You telling me I can increase my fov?

no, I was just bemoaning the fact that the fov is low for a game like this
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>>145748282
>enemy team dying
>send a burst to the head of enemy Mercy
>casually helix rocket for good measure, prepare to burst again
>our Mei decides it's time for an ice wall
>HELDEN STERBEN NICHT
HOLY SHIT FUCK OFF YOU FAT WHORE YOU RUINED EVERYTHING
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>mfw get destroyed by a team of 3 genjis

>next game, 2 genjis same fucking result

what is his counter?
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>>145748310
Video settings. It only goes to 103.
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>>145748394

roadhog
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>>145748339
I was still in the "i trust my teammates" phase. You know, the first 30s of every match when you actually believe they got this and you won't have to fucking shoot enemy Mercy/Widow/Turrets yourself.
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>>145748394
Zarya, Winston and Symetra, pretty much anyone with non projectile weapons.
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>>145748394
at the moment?

nothing
McCree nerfs flipped the matchup into Genji's favor

only thing I am picking recently is Torb just to make their life hell when trying to be mobile and flank and stuff but he isn't really a counter at all
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>>145748394
hot
monkey
dick
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>>145748218
Lucio is the best carry because
>AOE heals act as a general buff to everyone in line of sight and actually makes people come to where you are if they want to get healed, which means you lure them to objective
>AOE speedboost means you get to objective faster and can boost people out of the way when enemy uses an ult
>ult is a perfect denial for a lot of enemy ults helping save people who would otherwise be easy pickings
>movement abilities and self heal give you great survivalability to contest the point forever
>right click is a great denial for a lot of heroes who would instantly kill you otherwise
>left click has pretty good damage as long as you can hit the shots
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>>145748496
McREE's nerfs did fucking nothing to his ability to shit on Tracer and Genji.
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>>145748472
That explains it, I normally decide that if I've had to choose healer I'm gonna have to be ready to do something about their flankers. Although recently I've just been going Zen when I pick support, melted a Genji twice when he was ulting, he wasted the third just for me.
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>>145748496
McCree is still a hard counter to Genji, don't throw your flashbang into the deflect and headshot instead of fan the hammer and you're golden. Even with no flashbang up you can just shoot the Genjis down when they're flipping around.
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>>145747182
On a payload, that tactic is pretty fucking effective.
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>>145748394
>mfw no face
fuck off reddit
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>>145748642
Genji doesn't die to the headshot though which means that he will survive the duration of the flashbang and either

A. put up reflect
in this case you pray you weren't fanning or you die

or B.
he just dashes away and heals to full HP off of some nearby health pack and comes back and kills you 2 seconds later since you no longer have flashbang

Matchup is in Genji's favor now
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>>145748753
>flashbang to the side
>fan him
yeah it is. totally in genji's favor.
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>>145748753
>throw flash over genji's head
>interrupt reflect
>kill genji
???
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>>145747153
>properly
You want all of her lines to be in Russian?
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>>145748753
If he's full health before you stun him that means he either used up his deflect before and you can kill him easily, or you missed all your shots before stunning him which means you're bad and deserve to lose. You're just getting outplayed.

Genji wins when he completely catches you by surprise but that's true for most dps heroes.
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>>145747987
What, spelling mistakes?
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>>145748664
Junkrat clears that up pretty quickly.
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>>145748820
>>145748854
>Genji is reflecting before you throw flashbang


shit genji player

he should know now that there is no way for him to die in the duration of the stun so the can just hold onto it until after you stun him

if you never throw the stun he wins be default

>>145748883
or you just both ran around a corner and met eachother at full HP

or he initiated on you with his long range dash from behind you since he is a flanker

in the rare circumstance where you have him in front of you at a great distance and are allowed to take pot shots at him there is literally not reason for genji to engage you and instead just back off and flank instead

like I said

matchup is in Genji's favor now
not McCrees
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>>145743962
...are retarded ? They made it clear it won't include it and listed the content of the offer.
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Sometimes I wish there was a button to go into a third person view briefly. Being a tank is suffering.
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>>145749026
>there is no way for him to die in the duration of the stun
YEAH BECAUSE MCREE CAN'T RELIABLY HIT 4 FAN SHOTS
HOW BAD ARE YOU
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The emergence of high Zarya soloQ pickrate proves forced 50.
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>>145749123
But Zarya is a good tank.
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>>145749123
Shut the fuck up
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>>145749109
>McCree can't reliably hit 4 fan shots

not in the duration of the stun he can't

its actually not possible

Genji will 100% of the time have a window in which he can activate reflect

and if you chose to fan into a stunned Genji you are just asking to have the last 3-4 shots reflected back at you

the safer route now is to just stun him and then headshot him

this at least forces him to dash away and come back later but it really only turns the fight into a draw where he can come back and reengage when things are more favorable for him due to increased mobility
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>>145749238
Stun lasts 0.7s
Fan unloads in 1s.
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>>145748496
uwotm8. we're talking about overwatch here.
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>>145749302
>I am canceling the end of the flashbang animation and somehow getting an additional .1 to .2 seconds of up time on McCree that all other players cannot get
>I am always perfectly situational awareness and after aiming to genji's side in order to make sure he doesn't reflect the stun back at me can re-position my reticle perfectly in 1/10th of a second

you don't have the time
Genji will
100% of the time
get to reflect 2 to 4 shots depending on the situation
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>play overwatch for like 6 hours straight
>ive developed some sorta ptsd
>i can hear hanzo arrows, widow snipes and junk rat bombs going off

anyone else?
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>>145749657
Personne ne chape mon regard
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>>145747080
> dva push reinhart out
> teammate focus bastion
wow so hard
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>Die
>Grab my mug as im watching the killcam
HEROES NEVER DIE
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>>145750094
>the game even gives you a grace period to react

No excuse, except that you just wanted the chance to take a sippy and Mercy robbed you of it.
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>>145740003
I just bought this game. Former quake and cs player, (5k hours combined), what am I in for?
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