/mbg/ - Mount & Blade General

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First for the institution of Prima Nocta.

>>145626837
second for hang yourself

i'm gay

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early for vlandia is better than you

>>145626659
It is the chinese HOMM mod. Loaded with stolen assets.

>>145626802
Do your part then! Help me find quality assets to steal.

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>>145626868
You prefer women of noble birth then?

>>145626976
>>145627719

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we did it lads
a whole thread in a day

>>145627827
Everything I saw looked like shit. I might go back and check it again.

>>145626976
But is it fun?

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Press F to pay respects

I'm excited to make scenes for Bonerlord. They look really fucking intuitive and fun.

>>145628058
That's where the revolving rifle model originally is from. There's some nice caplock rifles, at least one breech-loader (a snider-enfield), a couple of flintlocks and some repeating rifles and revolvers too.

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>>145628183
Does this look fun?

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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.

>>145626916
I'm an attack helicopter.

>>145628462
It looks great, especially compared to Warband's "editor"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obO5sbziqjM

>>145626782
They should add siege equipment in big battle just like in the roman empire mod to warband, and have it operated by engineers that could get taken out.

>>145628664
I'm a modder for Beth games currently, (though never released anything extraordinarily popular) and this honestly looks like such a fucking amazing tool.

>>145628616
i'm straight for attack helicopters

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>can't figure out why textures wont load
>realize I put all the .dds files in the Resource folder

>>145628664
>This fucking editor
Fuck...

>>145626868
What's up your baby chute

>>145628050
That's an extremely cute baby

>>145628832
Sounds overpowered as fuck, just get 20 scorpios and watch entire fucking lines of people drop

>>145628562

Wish for a Sumer mod first.

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>tfw your fellow lords leave you and your newly captured town to join a feast just as the Rhodoks are rolling up

>>145629568
>Sounds overpowered as fuck
You could flank them with cavalry and wreck their shit.

>>145628562
Have you tried Warwolf?

>>145629630
You posted this last thread

>>145629708
Yeah no not with roman heavy spearmen and hand-ballistas sitting there

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>Playing warsword
>Go for a ship to ship battle
>Instead of a premade map the ships are all moving around and stuff

WHAT THE HELL DO I DO?

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>>145629709

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>>145626782

>>145629568
>>145629708
also, there's a limit in the mod so you can deploy like 5 onagers at a time so it's really well balanced.

>>145629746
Then you could get your infantry to attack their with the support of your archers and once they're not paying attention you move in with the cavalry

>>145629753
ARROW KEYS AND CTRL/SHIFT/ENTER NEXT TO THE ARROW KEYS I THINK

>>145630015
The boats collided with each other and started clipping madly through each other throwing 50% of my crew overboard

>>145630219
ah, yes, Brytenwalda naval battles are particularly brutal on manpower.

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The size increase to keep the hair from clippin g through almost makes it look silly

>>145629876
>attacking Roman infantry with your own infantry
seriously though it feels like Romans were strongest in more or less every single way besides cavalry but they just hired the cavalry

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LONG MAY HE REIGN

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>finish removing the mamluks from the holy lands with crusaders
>they declare war on lithuania

Wait, what? Why the fuck Lithuania of all places? They're literally half the map apart, they've likely never once had contact.

>>145630883
Because Pagans.

>>145630576
heavy infantry always comes out on top

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That skellyanon complaining about Usugi was right. Look at this lazy bitch.

>>145631231
>sleeping on the battlefield
That's both incredibly lazy and very impressive

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>>145631479
Women will always find a way to screw something up.

>>145630538
What the heck. Rance's Uesugi Kenshin?

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>>145631652
Coming soon with the next GekoNewer patch. Along with a bunch of new items from Sugoroku.

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>>145631798
>that wrist

Hmm....

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>>145630986
>>145630883

>Crusaders now declared war on the Golden Horde
>The Golden Horde traveled across the entirety of Europe on boats
>just to raid 2 of my fiefs and then fuck off again
>while their capital is literally on fire

You can't make this shit up. Why couldn't actual history be this batshit insa-
>if one person in a town or a city in their first year under Genghis Khan's rule broke any rules or tried to uprise, he would kill the entire town/city
>they made a giant statue out of the guy because he's considered the founder of Mongolia, and a national hero - even to this day
>literally killed, pillaged, conquered and raped his way through history
>he was responsible for as many deaths as Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin combined
>that's not even taking into account his lineage

I keep forgetting his comical batshittiness actually exist. It's like taken from an edgy teen's novel, only people actually suffered through his shit. I love Genghis Khan, his history is fucking hilarious.

>>145628050
THAT IS SO CUTE! <3

So did TW showed something else at E3 or just those 2 videos?

How do I make money in WFAS?

>>145632753
Tomorrow. Well, today.

>>145632753
12 more hours or so before we get more.

>>145630538
Neat, whered you find the hat

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>>145632908
Sugoroku. I just had to remove the face plate.

Also found some new "shields". 578 would be so happy.

>>145629630
>tfw founded a new kingdom, still working out the kinks in lords
>cap 2 towns in rapid succession
>only have 1 lord you definitely want to give a fief to
>a Nord army of ~800 rolls up on the other
Still protected Dhirim by myself.

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>>145633110

Really wish it was possible to fix gates in Geko, I hate seeing 10 of my guys go down just bashing it down

>>145633951
what do you mean fix

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>>145634027
See those spears? They can hit you

>>145634097
Pretty sure that's a Native issue that can't be fixed unfortunately

>>145634097
the defenders could just be placed further back

>>145633789
That CGI is terrible.
Why does the goldcloak immediately contradict himself and smile? Sauce?

>>145633789
This movie looks fucking terrible. What is it?

>>145634293
>>145634337
lots of newfags lately

It's Kingdom of Heaven and it's actually a pretty good movie, worth a watch

>>145634337

Kingdom of Heaven. It's one of those movies that try to paint one faction in the worst light, and the other as the victims. When basically everyone was a fucking asshole during the Crusades.

>>145634293
Kingdom of Heaven.

>Jerusalem is worth nothing on its own
>As THE Holy City, Jerusalem is worth everything

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>>145634293
>>145634337
>they haven't seen Troy

Fucking really?

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>>145634293
>>145634337
You've honestly never watched it?

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>>145630986
>Lithuania's lords are called Bishops
>Jotvingians and Samagotians are different factions and don't help Lithuania

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Is this weapon bugged? The only other Long War Axes I've seen are all two-handed, with 49c damage at the absolute max, and this one somehow has 57 damage. I got it from one of my first battles in Denmark just as I started playing this character and haven't changed from it since.

Where the fuck do I get good two-handed swords? All of them are bastard swords from what I've seen, I want a dedicated Great Sword.

>>145634425
>>145634451
>>145634464
>>145634472
Sorry I don't have shit tastes.

>>145634609
why are you in mount and blade general then

>>145634609
wew lad can't go one thread without movie shitposting?

>>145634564
>that lack of aesthetics
christ alive
>two handed sword
>13thc

>>145634609
>sorry I'm too underaged to watch movies that came out in the early 00's
Pretty sure every one above the age of 18 have heared of this movie, even the most hardcore of normies.

>I have no idea what this is
>It is X
>hurr durr it is shit
>please respond

>>145634638
>>145634659
Dod'y reply you fuckheads

>tfw realized nanban soldiers arent worth the effort

There goes 70 days of work

>>145634709
>that lack of aesthetics

Yeah, I know. I'm just using what I've managed to scrounge up, I still don't have a reliable source of income.

>two handed sword
>13thc

All my experience comes from multiplayer, so it's what I feel most comfortable with. This is one of the only times I've sat down and played a modded single player.

So how about that Rome HBO series, eh?

>>145634865
It's alright, better than /got/ in it's current situtiation.

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Reminder that spam is a low-tier technique and those who complain about it are likely a lower quality player than the spammer

>>145634865
THIRTEEN

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>>145634865
Season one is good. Season two feels rushed but isn't bad. I don't think they planned on it ending at only 2 seasons.

>>145635040
They intended to go up to 5 seasons.

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>>145635125
Wow really? Why didn't it?

>>145635225
HBO considered it a failure and it cost too much money per episode. When the DVD sales came in, they realized their mistake.

And that, children, is why GOT has lasted more than two seasons. HBO decided they didn't want another cash cow to be sent to the slaughterhouse too early.

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>>145635426
That is to bad.

I've yet to watch GOT.

>>145635792
The show is shit now but the books are good

fucking showfags

>>145634963
I don't understand what's displayed in that image.

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>mfw georges rifle

I'm guessing I shouldnt be using this

>>145635882
books are shit too m8
GRMM is a bad writer

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>>145635882
I do intend to read the books. After reading the Dune 2-6 and just starting Stranger in a Strange land I'm going to need to switch over to fantasy.

I was debating A Song of fire and Ice or The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant.

>>145635895
Mighty Caesar is watching his troops invade Briton.

>>145636024
I may or may not be giving him a pistol too in this next patch.

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S-W-A-D-I-A
So Klargus told you that the feast was far away~
Your fiefs a joke, butter choke, denars on their way
The Nords and Rhodoks are always ever near
Controversy's up this week
The sacking of
Yaragir

I will raid for you
(Butter jars galore)
I will raid for you
(You looted it before)
I will raid for you
(Because there's nothing else to do)

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>>145635895
Better?

>>145636147
Should give George grenades as well :^)

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>>145636331
Does Geko have the scripts for those?

Can I add scripts w/o source?

>>145634464

Holy shit, my WebM is still around? I didn't think anyone saved it. Cool.

>>145636497
>Does Geko have the scripts for those?
no
>Can I add scripts w/o source?
no

>>145626782
so is the new game better than warband with mods?

>>145636590
watch the videos in the OP and read the dev blogs and judge for yourself

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>>145636542
No US presidents tossing grenades in Nipland then.

>>145634293
Between the crusader and himself - the two different faiths
>Nothing
Stepping closer to his men
>Everything

>>145636258
Not really.

>>145636801
BLACKED

>>145637251
Disgusting.

>>145637126
What do you not understand?

Best strategy for leveling up units? Please don't say "just kill stuff". I have infinite money too with my properties, I just made a few poor decisions recently.

>>145638016
Level up the Training skill on you and your companions.

>>145638016
always use trainer as a dumpstat for your companions since it stacks

grind on sea raider parties

Samurai archers or gunners?

King Ragnar is such a fucking bro.

He wont stop shoving fiefs up my ass, and giving me missions to go fuck up those gay ass swadian fags.

Might marry his daughter, get me some royal poontang.

What other leaders are absolute bros?

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>>145638264
Why not both?

>>145638109
>companions

companion*

Party stats only stack with one other companion. Have a dedicated trainer besides you and stick with it.

>>145638264
Nigga they have guns, what do you think?

>>145638357
>marry his daughter

Anon, unless you're playing a mod, then you can't marry his daughter.

>>145638452
I've fought master archers in the past and they can fuck you up real good, so I wasnt sure

>>145638357
I thought you couldn't marry into a liege's family ?

>>145638448
Trainer isn't a party stat, it's a personal stat so it stacks with each member who has it

>>145638448
Trainer is a personal skill, not a party skill. You can stack it on everyone for more exp.

>>145638471
>>145638529
Oh, I'm retarded.

Sorry.

>>145638539
>>145638587
Oh, I'm double retarded.

Double sorry.

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Wow this ninja "armor" from sugoroku looks even worse in-game than in OpenBrf

>>145638109
How do I stop sea raiders from running so fast? They see me and bolt and they are usually much much faster than me.

>>145638528
Archers will generally kick your ass but a couple lines of well placed gunman can fuck shit up pretty hard.

>>145638823
Literal pajama warriors

>>145638835
level up athletics or get a horse

>>145639004
Athletics makes you run faster on the map?

I thought that was path finding?

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>>145638969
The female stuff looks good in OpenBrf but finding an actual female ninja in-game is difficult. I'm just gonna have to make some peasants upgrade into them for testing.

>>145639078
thought you meant in battle

yes, pathfinding makes your party move faster on the overworld map, so does having a small party and having a lot of mounted troops

Lads why are tournaments so retarded, no wonder they called this a diamond in the rough

Literally doing them at level 1-5 and having the AI run into walls

>>145638424
>SQUAD BROKEN

>>145630735
Stop avatarfagging

>>145630735
DUDE
FEASTS

>>145639861
buttblasted waifufag detected

-GS

Ragnar > Feast Master

Come at me.

>>145634865
It's good.

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>you will never have a pure, steppe waifu

Why even live?

>>145640316
Kill yourself

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>>145640316
>steppe waifu
>pure
LOL.

INB4 that saxon waifu faggot.

>>145640316
Too old. Horsedick material.

Best waifus are nordic

>>145640848
Agreed.

Ragnar top waifu

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>>145640848
>>145640934

Nords seem to be the best faction. They have the best infantry which is all it really comes down to when doing sieges. Every faction is good but nords have a manly king, aren't reddit tier, and have the best infantry for sieges.

>>145639861
but that's not avatarfagging

>>145641038
This

Plus I don't get called every 5 fucking seconds for a feast while trying to take a castle or some shit

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>>145640848
>>145640934
>>145640952
>>145641038
>>145641242
DID SOMEONE SAY NORDS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYTRsEtqKps

Are there any other mods that are as brutally over-the-top as Blood and Steel?
It's fun as hell being a one man blender of death and misery.

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Guess she's still mad at me

>>145641038
Sieges are easiest to exploit with Rhodoks and Swadians are the #1 wrecking machine in field battles

>>145641490
Being a mage in Phantasy can get pretty OP

Can't think of any other CUHRAAAAAZYY mods right now though

Sturgians are Nordic, right?

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Did someone say CUHRAAAAAZYY?

>>145641634
in the concept art they looked full on slav and later on captainlust said they were a mix of slavs and scandinavians but in the bannerlord video which had the players army as sturgians they looked pretty damn nordic to me

of course there might still be some slavic shit that we haven't seen but who knows

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Huh, never knew you could do stuff like this in Geko

>>145641759
What mod is that?

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>>145641759
Makes sense, they live were vaigirs are, also didn't nords move in from someplace elsewhere?

>>145641759
>>145641960

Meant for this
.>>145641795

>>145641960
yeah they came from the same land as the sea raiders but we don't know what's been retconned

>>145641960
>>145642045
I think the Nord's homeland is called Nordland or Jumne or something like that so yeah. Pretty sure sea raiders came from the same place

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>>145641957
Wind of the War: New Era

>ftw when you are now Earl

>>145632405
You can't say he wasn't incredibly fair about how shit worked.
Like, it was batshit insane but it didn't matter if you were an esteemed general, a foot soldier, a cavalryman or a conquered peasant he treated them all fairly equally when they fucked something up (or the opposite)

>>145635882

Seriously, fuck this season. We've had what, one fight scene with a blind girl and one scene that pretty much fucked over one of the major sword fighters in the world in terms of lore? Every time there's been threats of a fight scene, they always back down. Getting tired of this shit.

>>145634293
What CGI, the background? It's okay.
>talking to the crusader
"Nothing" [you would understand]
"Everything" [to our people]

>>145642217

Oh, definitively. When you know that you could be his most trusted advisor, and one wrong - you're dead. Literally a fear aura that stretched 2 continents. Not shabby.

>>145636147
Just get rid of George, he makes no goddamn sense and he isn't even funny
Forget the rifle I can believe he had it with him when he was whisked away, how is he getting more ammo for it? 16th century bullets don't go into 20th century weapons.

>>145642437
>he doesn't like time-travelling dubya
get a load of this guy amirite

>>145642405
Well I mean
It's one way to make things work, he conquered and pillaged and burned his way across the land but he seemed to be pretty good about lands he started governing, once he finished conquering it
What was his boast, "a naked virgin with a bag of gold around her neck can walk from one end of the world to the other and not worry for her safety"? Pretty impressive thing to even say. Wonder if they tested it

>>145636147
thomas covenant was 2boring4me m8. you ever hear of dark sun? maybe you would like the prism pentad novels

>>145642437
Don't think I could get rid of a companion not that I would listen to your absolute shit opinion without the source code.

>>145642518
He's amusing for a bit and always overpowered but then his burger-ness starts getting to me. Not the good kind of burger-ness, either, it's just yelling about shooting people and 'lmao bomb Baghdad' when he probably doesn't even know where it is.
pisses me off you can't execute lords or retainers for getting a little too cocky

>>145642684


Looks like we got an angry lefty in here

>>145642684
>companions that dislike you enough (or have their own motives, would be cool) in bannerlord have a chance to betray you in some form
>can execute companions
would be awesome

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>>145642569
Boring how? Only reason I was going to check it out was because a guy at work recommended it and he seems to have similar tastes as me.

>>145642684
Gotta spread the Good Word to those slanteyed heathens man.

>>145642684
just take the time to assemble compatible companions and they should hardly ever say anything to you at all. you dont have to have george in your party as well, you can leave him at the inn easy peasy, theres plenty of companions to go around

>>145642776
No, I'm all for bombing the ME lifeless today but it's annoying when it's during a completely different time period when it doesn't even make sense for that to happen, it's like the 'haha obummer castle amirite :DD'
In fact how the fuck is George even living in medieval Japan? He can't speak a lick of nippon as far as I can tell and I don't know how any of my companions are even communicating with him. Completely fucks up muh immershun.

>>145642859
>good word
George doesn't even carry a fucking Bible though, Francisco or whoever is the one actually going on missionary work. George is just running off his mouth where he isn't welcome and isn't knowledgeable just like real life burgers

>>145642965
anon I think you need to learn to have fun

>>145642965
You know you don't have to have him as a companion right?

>>145642934
Oh no the spoiler wasn't a specific about executing George, it was just an idea. If I capture a lord who defected from my faction after I saved him or something, he needs to fucking go.
And if Bonerlord has lord deaths, like hell I'm forgiving someone who killed one of my best-friend companions, even if we're in the same faction now.

>>145642965

You also going to ask why I'm able to be a loli skeleton with hair?

>>145642965
He's speaking Japanese the whole time, he goes off on a tangent about how some nip taught him to speak Japanese well.

>>145643043
Yeah I know, I'm just saying why I don't like him, I wasn't legitimately asking for him to be removed that's retarded I can just avoid the inns he's in.

>>145643087
Wait is he? I thought he was complaining in the intro sequence about nobody understanding him

Out of curiosity, is there an easy way to transfer companions between mods? Like for example take a companion from Gekokujo and place them in Floris.

>>145643185
He's happy you said howdy back because even though he can speak Japanese to everyone he doesn't really grok them.

I'm not saying it's good writing, mind.

>>145643185
You're thinking of the Englishman

>>145643286
>grok
What

>>145642859
well its been a few years since i read it so bear with me as i dredge up the memories. this thomas covenant guy, he's really obsessed with his illness and a major negative nancy, almost edgy sarcastic goth teen style, which i guess could have made for a funny contrast to the fantasy world hes transported into, but it didnt work out for me. maybe things got better in successive books, but the first one didnt do the trick for me, so i didnt bother with the rest

still, if you suspect you might like it, feel free to give it a shot

i read a few books in the malazan book of the fallen series and they were ok, but i lost interest partway thru the series, but maybe you would derive some enjoyment from it

ive been meaning to try out the black company series too. and i read a couple thieves' world books and they were ok mostly

>>145643328
grok, its some sci fi book nerd word for "instant deep understanding" or something, look it up

>>145641795
They were always clearly at least part Nordic. There was constant evidence from them literally being called "the viking style faction" to them inhabiting the same area as Nords and having the exact same playstyle as Nords to a Sturgian sword being labelled "Viking Sword", but squatters in denial would block it all out and go "MUH STURGIAN LORD.JPG". Then Lust confirmed the obvious and they got really buttblasted about them not being the pure slavs they'd fantasised about.

Do cav have less chance of being affected by surgery? Mine always seem to die 80% of the itme even with a high surgeon skill

>>145643632
whats the steamgroup

>>145642323
>and one scene that pretty much fucked over one of the major sword fighters in the world in terms of lore?

Which scene are you referring to?

>Join the marshalls party
>He is at Narra
>ride to narra
>not there
>ask another lord
>hes at narra
>go back
>army of 300 khergits chase me
>leave troops behind
>lose morale
>300 khergits faster than me
>lose my entire army because of this shit
WHY WAS HE NO WHERE TO BE FUCKING FOUND

>>145643861
its in the OP

>>145643810
horse and rider are deeply linked. if one dies, the other can lose the will to live

Did they get rid of freelancing in the new warsword update?

>>145643737
I mean if we're looking at early medieval slavs, Nord-Slavs account for most of what's going on in Russia at the time, and Russia is the biggest slav nation.

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>>145643328
>>145643468
I just started Stranger in a Strange land and it hasn't explained what grokking is yet. Only that Valentine Michael Smith has a hard time grokking Earth's people and customs.

>>145643376
I will probably still check it out. Also hear the Foundation series is really good but like I said earlier after 5 dune books I miss you Leto II and now Stranger in a Strange Land I'm sure I will be sick of sci0fi

I did break it up by reading the a biography of PIC RELATED in between.

>>145643882
perhaps he was sneaking about inside the city

get more spotting, pathfinding, and tracking to keep your situational awareness up and avoid those nasty khergits

>>145644096
baudolino is a book u might enjoy as it blends history shit with fantastical shit, it was pretty good although it took a little while to hit the fantastical bits

>>145643881

Arthur Dane. Constantly referred to as being the best swordsman alive and terribly similar style to Barristan Selmy - who simply used one sword. Using one of the most well-known characters as a ploy to get some SOOPER COOL DOOL WIILD in there is fucking abysmal.

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>>145644096
Don't expect it to ever spell out what grokking actually is.

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The command options look pretty nice.

>>145644274
Ohhh, yeah, that was pretty rage inducing.

I thought DUDE DUAL WIELDING LMAO was something only the show could be retarded enough to include but I'm re-reading AGOT and Bronn dual-wields swords against the Mountain Clans when Catelyn is taking Tyrion to the Eyrie, was a disappointing revelation.

>>145644489

At least Bronn's make a bit more sense towards the Blackwater fight where he off-hands a Kukri. Since arming sword + dagger wasn't uncommon, and kukri would better serve his purposes for a quick but efficient weapon.
Though, yeah. Dual-wielding in general should be abolished from the series, unless it's done really well. The Egyptian from Spartacus was a good example of dual-wielding done right, with dual-daggers and actual correct movements.

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>>145644223
I'll ad it to the list. Is it a series or just the one?

>>145644315
I've pretty much determined so far to be "deeply empathetic understanding".
Not understanding with your "brain" but understanding with your "heart".

Just like Starship Troops, Stranger in a Strange Land is, so far, very political.

>>145644301

>he doesn't even do the overhead from below

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who here /brainybots/

>>145644707
wut

>>145644787

If you do an overhead, turn around, aim up - you still do an overhead, but it looks like you're attacking from below. Most people instinctively block low, even though they need to block high. Works best with Bardiche/halberds.

>>145644001
yeah, they did. I'm annoyed too.

>>145644850
any webms to show me?

>>145644632
baudolino is a single book, but the author was kind of a famous guy so you should consider checking out his other ones

taleworlds said they'd be releasing more info during e3, has anything else popped up yet?

>>145645013
stream today sometime, don't know exactly when

they're at the twitch booth or some shit

What the fuck is going on with the equipment in Floris? It's like every century of the middle-ages happening at once. The Rhodoks look like Scottish Conquistadors.

>>145645097
mount and blade always felt like a bit of a mashup of medieval shit in the first place so i didnt mind

>>145645013
Should get more some time between 9AM and 2PM Pacific Time apparently.

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I used to start on Ireland all the time, but the Irish did jackshit.

Now the Irish have mostly pushed the Norse out of Ireland and are invading Wales. Fucking Irish.

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Startin to think I should just turn off gates

What's the best Native+ mod?

>>145646889
Diplomacy or Vexxed native

>>145646889
Native+ - Diplomacy
Native++ - Silverstag

Is there any quick way to add relationship to villages? Using the same relationship cheat that you would for nobles doesn't apply for whatever reason. I'm talking Swadian villages explicitly, or non-Rhodok villages at the very least.

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>double wheellock arquebus
>twice as long to reload and decreased stats in everything else

What's the point?

>>145647423
Stop sucking dick and do some tasks for people you want to like you.

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What?

>>145645709
Kek in my game the norse were pushed out of ireland in the first few months and after that the irish conquered wales while wessex kept rekking everyone around them but now east angle keeps rekking wessex and taking their lands.

>>145647518
-shoot two kniggas once
-shoot one knigga twice

>>145647846
Fucking Irish. Always doing this shit whenever I'm not around to support you.

>>145647645
dialogue oddities are probably the least of the bugfix concerns at this point

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>>145647645
it's common

>>145648053
I was hopin for more wars between themselves so that I could snatch some newly sieged fiefs but no they keep invading brytons and saxons.

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>Keep talking my Lord into starting wars just so I can raid and plunder fiefs for roughly 4k gold per time

Actual warlord

>>145647518
It can fire twice.

>>145648198
This is historically accurate, the Irish were raiding cunts at the time.

>the difference between ashigaru archers and samurai ones

Jesus fuck, its like I have a whole line of snipers

so i captured the last castle the vaegirs had, and i have 4 lords as prisoners. however, the vaegirs disbanded cause everyone else defected. will i ever get offered sheckels for the prisoners?

>>145648630
But they were also fighting among themselves right ?
Also I'm a bit salty that they merged celtic paganism into one pagan religion unlike in the earlier versions of the expansion where it was a seperate religion together just like celtic christianity.

>>145648797
Ashigaru are literal peasants, what did you expect? It's the difference between the limitaminei line and the palatina line.

>>145648887
Even compared to elite skirmishers tho they're a whole different level


Also

>lord Im at war with begs for my surgeon to fix one of his guys up
>yeah sure fine I'll be a nice guy
>he runs off and begins raiding my village

THIS IS WHY WE NEED THE ABILITY TO MAKE LORDS COMMIT SEDOKU

>>145649017
Yeah and five units of the best limitaminei spearmen get fucking taken apart by a single unit of the lowest palatina swordsmen, which was my point.

>>145649017
>Peasant costs 10 to recruit and come in batches of 30+
>Ji-Samurai costs 300 to recruit and come in dozens if you're lucky
I mean if samurai weren't worth their fucking weight in Amaterasu's pussy juice why the fuck would you ever melt down your mon for them

>>145649079
Thanks to upstab ashigaru are actually superior to samurai melee(outside of very very tight places like buildings in sieges)

>>145649178
This is true in Shogun 2 as well, where that's the only thing they're better at one-for-one
YARI-HEI

>>145649235
YAR EES AT DA REDY

I have been rewatching the siege gameplay and arrows and javelins now actually bounce of walls instead of getting stuck into them.
I'm getting so hyped for this game.

>>145649262
WE HUNGER FOR BLUDDDD AND BATTALLLL

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>>145649235
Option to lease land to Portuguese and create a Portuguese expedition faction when?

>>145649391
Leasing land in Shogun was fucking retarded unless you were completely dead for money.

>>145649416
It was, but I was talking bout gekonewer
also didn't mean to make that a reply tbqh. my bad

>>145649391
>canoes can't be fucking sunk by cannon fire
I preferred Rome 2's ramfest better tbqh, even if the handling was fucking infuriating.

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warsword is a development mess but these polearms are THIQUE

>>145649614
>overcompensating this hard
Seriously though what's stopping me from getting too close for him to hit me and slitting his throat with tiny little daggers? It's like a textbook slow faggot setup there.

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>>145649535
??
Also S2 naval battles were so ez if you went as west as possible
taking down 15-20 stack fleets with 2-3 ships and the like
Man might have to play S2 again now

>>145649686
His God-given strength and slabs of armour, basically.

>>145649769
I broadsided bow koyabas with 4-5 western '''trade''' ships for 10 minutes and they surrendered in the end, they didn't sink. Shit was ridiculous.

>>145649769
Going as western as possible in S2/FotS is incredibly satisfying for some reason. Maybe I'm an industryfag.

>>145649803
Yeah but I see a gap right at his neck.

>>145649859
It probably has to do with the fact that if you don't you often get blown the fuck out. It's not that bad in Shogun 2, the only thing that's a legitimately huge deal is the navy because cannons and guns aren't strong enough to warrant full replacement and bows are still superior in many ways.
In FotS you will be obliterated against Royal Marines and gatlings if you don't have guns.
Fuck guns

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>>145649943
God-given strength isn't like, figurative. Dudes are literally 'strengthened' by their devotion, although the manner in which the Dark Gods show their favour isn't always what you might call beneficial.
>You wanna be stronger in battle?
>Have a scythe-tentacle where your dick used to be!

>>145649943

Guns are fucking amazing in sieges tho

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>>145649828
Dunno then m8, I always remember blowing the nip ships to pieces

>>145649859
It's my favourite, I try it in geko too
It's great in shogun 2 though, it feels rewarding while not being overpowered straight away, and makes you a lot of enemies
Might buy the Otomo pack just thinking about this desu

>>145650037
/twg/ is sperging out over WH lore so I've been informed, even if I didn't want to.
That being said, they're not actually fucking immortal, just durable, and you'd imagine that if you jammed a sword through their neck, 80% of them would either die or be severely weakened.
That or just hit them with mind control magic and get rid of their devotion, has nobody in WH verse thought of this?

>>145650137
Everything is amazing in sieges though, babby's first heroic is always a siege.
Also bows outrange gunners even with the height advantage

>>145650181
Otomo are legitimately sort of unique in playstyle so go for it, they even start with guns and a church and get a free unit of tercios holy fuck they kill everything through an early mission.

>>145650189
>Mind control magic
Since the Warp/Chaos itself is the source from which all the winds of magic flow, I can't see it being terribly effective. Depends on the will of the individual and the favour they curry with their chosen power, I suppose. Haven't seen 'mind control' in the lore as of yet, but it wouldn't surprise me. Point is, Chaos is a Greater Power, or set of Powers, that at their higher levels are far, far beyond the mortal ken.

>>145650343
>Since the Warp/Chaos itself is the source from which all the winds of magic flow, I can't see it being terribly effective.
But see that's irrelevant. If Chaos is where magic comes from, and you want to use mind control magic, then it's literally just molding the magic right then and there the material is already available. Unless those warriors are mages who know how to deflect magic by themselves, having high magic power doesn't grant magic resistance X.
As far as I understand most of the chaos gods don't actually care that much about their warriors.

>>145650253
wew sounds noice
just bought it
What are their ranged cav like?

>>145650590
>Otomo
>ranged cav
...you do realize they're gun specialists right

>>145650678
Yeah, their dunderbuss cav or whatever

>>145650462
While the Chaos gods don't really care about their followers that much, barring any that they've chosen as some kind of champion, they do care about others trying to control their followers. Think of them like that one kid you used to know that threw a shit fit, sometime even breaking the things, if you even looked at one of his toys. Their more likely to just pull all their blessings and kill whoever you're trying to mind control than let someone else take control of their playthings.

>>145650817
Oh I thought of mongol-style for some reason
They're pretty strong

>>145650851
>Their more likely to just pull all their blessings and kill whoever you're trying to mind control than let someone else take control of their playthings.
That's even better, the original mind-control was only to make them lose their blessings and get stomped because of their now-untenable equipments, if they'll just drop dead that's a far superior outcome.

>>145650930
I mean, ignoring that magic liable to blow up in your face/accidentally summon demons when used on that scale unless you're unusually skilled and very well-trained, and that even if you could pull it off your time would be much better spent doing anything other than slowly killing off chaos warriors one by one, you have a point.

>>145651232
Like what though, how do you get rid of chaos warriors then?
Fucking warhammer and its low-powered everything why are their mages and gods so underwhelming
Where the fuck is my heavenfall

>>145651310
Firearms, cannons, explosives, powerful magicks.

>>145651361
>powerful magicks
>powerful
???
>firearms
>cannons
>explosives
>anything other than low fantasy
???

>>145651310
You shoot them, blow them up or outnumber them. They're seven-foot tall magically armoured pop culture Vikings, after all.

>>145651310
Don't get the wrong idea, technically they have magic users powerful enough to take out whole armies with a single spell. It's just that doing that has a slightly greater than certain chance to kill the person casting and everyone, friendly or hostile, within a large distance of the battlefield. Also, most magic users kinda chicken out of using the big magics cause they don't want the Chaos gods to use their souls as toys.

>>145651484
Why don't mages simply use the spell from up high or something where there'll be no friendly-fire, or even better teleport into the enemy camp and do it?
Why don't these niggers find out how to stabilize their magic, from what I can tell it's systemic magic with clear limits after all, not the reality-warping 'because I can fuck you' magic of high fantasy mages.

>>145651451
Warhammer is a setting that scales from very gritty low-fantasy to absurd world-breaking high-fantasy

>>145651457
>divine warriors can somehow be simply shot to death
Not sure if these are some next-level bullets or just uninterested gods.

>>145651578
It's reality-warping 'fuck you' that literally runs off unstable emanations, or winds, that flow out of the northern wastes from the holes in reality that lead directly to the realm of Chaos.

>>145651578
>not the reality-warping 'because I can fuck you' magic of high fantasy mages.
it is though

>>145651670
All gods but Nurgle are dicks and would let you die just to mock you and then eternally mess with you. Also chaos god can bring you back as some demon things so you can pull a "You though you were doen with me ?"

>>145651670
The actual proper divine conduits like the Everchosen are brutal motherfuckers (probably literally), but Chaos Warriors are just dudes the Chaos Gods have given a tiny bit of power. If they die they weren't hardcore enough for anything major anyway so who cares.

>>145651635
Not involved in this discussion but I thought AoS was the high fantasy.
Care to give me some of the high fantasy? I need new ideas for spells in my own campaign powercreep is getting to me and my players don't feel like starting a new one yet they want to keep going
The current highest-tier spell is an adiabatic compression of a cylinder of air 10 kilometers across and 2 kilometers tall into a decimeter-wide ball, letting the cylinder repressurize rapidly, and letting the ball depressurize after creating a cylinder of force around your human-sized target to give an idea but I'm looking for things that aren't just 'kaboom'

>>145651846
Timmy wants to be hardcore but Slaneesh won't let him?

>>145651578
It isn't systematic, the magic is the one really high fantasy thing in the setting. They're literally channeling raw chaos, as in uncontrolled energies that do whatever the hell they want to, to power their abilities. Their power is not their own. Most of the time it takes entire cabals of casters to safely cast low level magics. It's not uncommon for anything really powerful to take more than a dozen mages and even more sacrifices just to keep everything from exploding and killing the mages before they manage to cast their spell. The powerful casters just have a higher resistance to the innate to all uses negative effects of the energy so they can pull more at once. This isn't the somewhat stable mystic energy of most settings. Simply drawing in the energy to use any spell has unpredictable effects. Sometimes it works perfectly fine, sometimes the caster suddenly finds themself on the other side of the world in some one else's underwear wondering why exactly their holding a chicken leg and blue piece of wood. And sometimes they'll be trying to heal a wound on someone's chest, and accidentally summon a greater daemon that then completely nullifies all magic other than what keeps it in the world until it slaughters everything in the camp.

>>145651938
More that Timmy has to prove himself to be hardcore or Slaanesh won't give him tentacle-dick nipples.

>>145651938
Uhh well back when I used to play, the core book covered the main 'schools' or Lores of magic as they were divided and the spells within them, but in the setting there are probably countless obscure magicks within these schools outside of what is represented in gameplay. If I grab a couple books I can dig up some stuff. What flavour of magick interests you?

>>145652039
>tentacle-dick nipples
See, I dislike Warhammer because it's so dark that it's become comedic.
There's a god of excess and shit, but not a god of marriage? A god of BLUD AND BATTLE but not a god of tactics or wisdom? No Tzen isn't a god of tactics

>>145652139
Well my highest powered PC is essentially a high-tier wraith and I'm running out of racial spells to give her, so some necromancy / instant death / Nurgle spells might help.

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Well after a lot of mop up and a long ass siege of Nagasaki, the Ryuzoji have fallen. However, the Shimazu have decided to use the chaos to stab me in the back and declare war, however I have acquired my first vassal by stealing the lord they used as their vanguard into my lands

Poast kingdoms

>>145652276
There are gods for stuff like that, just not chaos gods because yknow, none of the shit you described is chaotic

Its difficult to keep track of which general im broswing, either /twg/ or /mbg/

>>145652276
Warhammer isn't a completely serious setting, that's why the Orcs are football hooligans with green paint and steroids.

>>145636920
I never actually though of that in this way, neato.

>>145652276
Most of the chaos gods aren't, or weren't, so one dimensional. Khorne is the god of honorable combat as well as the stuff he's more known for. Sadly GW seems bound and determined to ruin the good parts of its settings so that's getting more and more distant every edition.

>>145652276
Alright here's some Lore of Nurgle.

>Magnificent Buboes
The caster picks one of his and, with a gracious sweep of his hand, bestows upon him one of Nurgle's prettiest afflictions- a clutch of debilitating buboes and boils.

>Fleshy Abundance
The Sorceror generously gifts those loyal to him with a growth spurt of the most repulsive kind. From even the smallest wound, great wobbling mounds of grey-green fat spill out to seal the lesion.

>Plague Squall
Singing a prayer of operatic proportions to Father Nurgle, the Sorcerer causes the skies to split open like the swollen belly of a corpse, raining a glorious shower of boiling filth and rotting blood upon his foes.

>Cloying Quagmire
The Sorceror thrusts his hands into the soil, causing the ground to putrefy into a sucking, grasping quagmire.

>Curse of the Leper
The caster sketches a mocking bow towards his enemies, and they gasp in horror as their fingers and limbs wither and drop off.

>Rot, glorious Rot
Virulent plagues erupt across the entire battlefield as the Sorceror joyfully recounts all of the diseases he has been blessed with since he swore his soul to Nurgle.

Nurgle Sorcerors seem like pretty jolly chaps.

>>145630883
>tfw wanted to play Crusaders after having some fiefs as England
>tfw crusader state was wiped out
What the fuck to even do besides restarting.

>>145653548
You retake Jerusalem of course

>>145653601
Assuming I called up a crusade, what would the faction taking the land even be? I didnt think a faction could do much when destroyed

>>145653601
GOD WILLS IT

>>145653129
Aight thanks mate
Some of those are way too low-powered for my tastes but some of them are good

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>>145653548

YOU BECOME THE CRUSADE.

>>145655474
Deus vult is such a stupid sounding catchphrase, 'if god lets us' like really?
In fact everything Abrahamic besides Apocalypse, Mary the Whore and Lilith is stupid-sounding, pagan war cries and such are so much more satisfying
I wish we had more Apocalypse references

>>145655608
>if god lets us
Anon...

>>145655608
>if God lets us
What.

>>145655795
>>145655874
Doesn't it translate literally to 'if God wills it'
Or was that the Ishna'allah or whatever the fuck of the muslims

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>>145655608

It means "God wills it"

I think Deus Vult is a bit more chilling, because it sounds so regal and official. Like when they took Jerusalem and the families were asking why they were doing what they were doing - and the only response they receive is a self-righteous, zealous, "Deus Vult." before watching their family get cut down.
As edgy as that was described, it was the only way I could think of describing it in a manner that made sense.

Though, screaming your lungs out or a steady chant like the Zulu march-chant is neater.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODM1RJe4FvQ#t=1m

>>145655926
It translates to "God wills it". No questioning involved.

Also, you're criticising Deus Vult because of what it literally means, and think Apocalypse is cool when it literally just means revelation.

>>145655960
>because it sounds so regal and official
That's because it's Latin.

>>145656015
No, I think Apocalypse is cool because the contents of Book of the Apocalypse is pretty fucking cool.

>>145655960
>it sounds so regal and official
No it sounds like Latin which automatically makes it sound extra cool, just like how Roma Invicta is cool to some people but Rome Unconquered sounds significantly less cool.

>>145656149
The contents of a lot of the Bible are pretty cool. Have you seen the strange shit that passes for angels in Abrahamic texts?

>>145656049
>>145656149


Well, yes. But Latin has always had the effect on people, making people think it's more correct and righteous, because Latin is a language that sounds so formal.

I want to learn to be fluent in Latin (or at least the modern interpretation left of it.), but there's no way to apply for it without going a lot of other courses - and there's no history courses available. Why can't I just nerd in peace, damnit.

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>>145639861
>Praising our king is 'fagging' of any sort
back in your hole, Rhocuck

>>145654534
They're ordered from lowest power to highest. The last two are fucking absurdly good, Curse of the Leper weakening an entire target unit until it is dispelled or the unit is destroyed entirely.

>>145656259
I had course on it this year, it was medieval university latin, not Roman though.

>>145656359
Yeah that's what I'm seeing
As far as my worldsystem works, Plague Squall is the strongest one of them all since creating something out of nothing without any conceptual link is divine magic and therefore not useable by players

>>145656432
Nobody knows how to speak Roman Latin though, that's the problem. The closest guess is probably Vatican Latin but even that is cleaned up.

>>145656247
It's not that strange though. Angels in the texts are divine beings literally beyond human comprehension that represent entire aspects of goodness, there's no reason they should look like bishies or the sexy bitches that are the Valkyries (who look like that because they're literally there for you to fuck after they bring you to Valhalla)

>>145656480
Technically the squall is more like opening a brief rift/gateway to the actual Domain of Nurgle itself, his benediction rapturously cascading through. In terms of metamagical stability, the Warhammer world is probably barely holding itself together. I mean, I guess that's the the 'End Times' is.

>>145656563
A wheel of flaming eyes and many-headed one-legged beasts that exist only to sing the praises of God for eternity are still strange, no matter how you slice it.

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>>145630538

Are you using my heads after I upscaled them?

>>145656612
Oh that makes more sense.
Most of my gods are basically pagan gods so they don't have their own realm, they just laze around, eat tarts and play with their sister's tits
The only three (relevant) gods that have entire realms are the goddess of nothingness, the god of death and the goddess of memes so opening a gate into any of them is probably a poor idea

>>145656671
They're not that strange in nature, they're just strange-looking.

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>>145656803
>goddess of memes
A PRAYER IN HER NAME

>>145656909
She's technically the goddess of memory, but the only real way that's actually applicable is memes.

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>>145657064
>Ancient priests of meme refer to the charts of creation

which faction should i attack to create my own faction in native? im thinking vaegirs or khergits since both their units blow massive dicks

>>145657516
Meme magic is a real branch of magic.
Your dick actually gets permanently bigger the first time you wear a mask and go through the bane routine with her, as one of the PCs found out

>>145657856
Do remember that attacking a faction to make your own means your first 'national' recruits will be of that faction.

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>>145658457
She still won't let you fuck her.

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For the anons talking about Mind-magic earlier. There is this one Tzeentch champion who's known for mind-control and dominating even chaos warriors with his magic.

Keep in mind he is a Champion of a god of chaos, who don't come around very often

is romae bellum still the best rome era mod warband has going for it?

>>145658608
Aren't actual Champions essentially demigods with their parent's favor in terms of relative ability though