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Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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Previously on tosg : >>145580629


TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Can I play the game now?
New players are restricted :
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=430

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
cute (Hiraku)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
NiceBoat (Tello)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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is rank 8 out yet
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I want to fuck oracle.
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Rune Caster worth taking with a Wiz3/Cryo3? Or should I still go with Warlock?
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Why do dps swordies exist if they do everything worse than other classes?
Just make the class a taunt slave as thats its only use
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>>145626226
Yes, I am aware. However my point is still valid.
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>>145626009
Add TakeItEasy to the OP, since they're a /vg/ guild now instead of /jp/.
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>>145626226
>source: ONE KOREAN PLAYERS COMMENT IN A SCREENSHOT LMAO XDDDD

/tosg/ is truly fucking retarded
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>FOE still in the OP
wow wtf thought you were removing us
guess not
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>>145626270
it's worth taking, but it's more worth taking if you have a friend to set off your wall with the force of a thousand suns.
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Cookie cutter pasta when?
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HEART SHAPED PUPILS AND SCHOOL GIRL OUTFITS WHEN?
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>>145626541
Hes correct its only 30% bonus to str, hes dead wrong about only applying to auto attacks since both the function shows none of that as well as the test an anon did awhile to disprove it.

Hes either missinfo, missed the information disproving the memes or just plain retarded
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>>145626604
school girl outfits next patch
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>>145626387
Planning on Rodelero build.
Swordsman > Pelt > Highlander > Rode3 > ???
I don't want to use faggot spears, is Dragoon my only option at R7?
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Reminder TakeItEasy is now a /vg/ guild since /jp/ a shit and casual.

PM Moonie_ to join.
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>>145626708
Doppel is always great I guess
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>>145626708
why does highlander seem like a good idea?
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>>145626651
Seriously though, even motherfucking cleric has attribute that gives small chance to stun. Swordman has none of valid advantage.
Only if IMC actually play their own game to see what's wrong.
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>>145626814
It isn't I need help with this. Barb stun doesn't seems helpful to increase dmg at later levels.
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>>145626814
Not him but HL doesn't have any weapon requirements except for cross guard and Rode3 has +300% strike damage which is good on Cartar stroke.
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>>145626814

cartar stroke deals 4 [strike] hits, one more thing to enjoy with rodelero strike debuffs
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>>145626883
just go Swordsman C2 if you want a small chance to stun
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>>145626708
Pelt3 Rode3 for maximum strike damage.
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>>145627016
Just take another circle of pelt instead... at least then you get more targets on swashbuckling, not some useless shit you will never need by r5+
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>>145627123
>comparing class' default attribute to a skill
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>>145627140
... and no dmg even for quests.
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>>145626441
>a /vg/ guild now instead of /jp/.
disgusting
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where did the sena shitposter go...
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>>145627123
>just take another circle of swordsman goy
>it's only 1 circle to get stun, you'll have 7 to do whatever you want!
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Is the server died
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What does STA work for if you are not a swordie?
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>>145627687
walk in general
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>>145627191
Catar Stroke is relevant forever.
4 hits strike skill with overheat, even at R7 it will be his strongest option for strike damage... by far.
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>>145627687
Monk use it for double punch thing.
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>>145627604
No, just the game
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What's a nulis going for these days?
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>>145627687
Just another poorly implemented mechanic. It doesn't do anything for anyone except if you walked across 3-5 zones without stopping you might have to stop for a bit
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How will he turn this game around?
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>>145627717
But you have to be pseudo-running for like 30min non-stop to deplete it
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>>145627930
Bunny suit!
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>>145625819
>>145625976
Reminder to test them and others skills that seemingly would benefit a lot from Melstis if you're a Krivis C3 or have a guildie/friend who followed this underrated path.
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>>145627891
>It doesn't do anything for anyone except if you walked across 3-5 zones without stopping you might have to stop for a bit
You don't even have to stop because
>stamina pill
>crystal
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>>145627851
>using lv120 purp/orange

Too much. That piece of shit costs too much to craft and will just be replaced by Magi 2h or Sup Twin Blade
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Is it ever worth rerolling cubes?
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>12:00PM in SEA, Thursday
>42 people at cerb
>4 hours earlier it was 40 as well
>4 hours before that it was 50

Don't these people sleep?

Also, I'm not sure if I should go public with the discovery of the world boss secret.
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>>145628265
>world boss secret.
now I have to know. Please do tell
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>>145628190
probably for high level ones, too bad they cost way more.
i've saved up enough to buy an arde by not rerolling that cube
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>>145628265
muh party event sekrit meme :^)

Also I'll have you know I'll sleep when I get a fucking glad band
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Is Steady Aim worth to Max?
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>>145628265
If you're not lying, just let it hit the fan, no one cares.
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>>145628414
what else are you going to max on ranger?
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>>145628414
Why would you go ranger if you're not using steady aim?
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>>145628265
Lots of neets in SEA afaik.
And yes, they don't sleep ever.
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>>145628378
High level cubes are even worse payout odds, especially when there are 6 different <1% chance recipes and you are looking for 1 in particular.

Save your shekels and buy off the market
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>>145628520
>He seriously believe that.
I have been earning much more than what I could get by grinding, from wbing this few days.
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>>145628520
>high level cubes are even worse payout odds
tell that to the faggot who only spent 10mil rerolling cubes yet got his "fine American rifle" before selling it for 30+mil.
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>>145628265
Go to bed, Katz.
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>>145628657
S-sorry you guys are talking about rerolling.
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>>145628510
idk, AoE skills?
though you're right
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>>145628661
you mean fin**merican rifle
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So I wanted to make a two-hander templar with squire support. Already leveling Highlander C1 right now. Should I go

Sword
Highlander C1
C2
C3
Squire C1
C2
Templar?

or should I get some Barb skills/Hoplite abilities?

Also do I stack full str for two-hand swords or should I put some in dex/con?
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>>145628827
Why the fuck does it matter? You have Squire and Templar in your build, you're not going to be doing anything useful.
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>>145628827
Spears (this includes shinobi) or doppel = high str (full str doesn't exist due to the necessity of con later on)

Anything else goes high or full dex.
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>>145628357
>>145628429

I've been hunting Cerberus as well as all the world bosses since iCBT2. However, out of all the world bosses, Cerberus (and Mineloader) have been the most problematic. Other WB play nice; they die they respawn 4 hours later. These two chucklefucks on the other hand seemingly spawn whenever they goddamn please. Sometimes they spawn 4 hours later, most of the time they don't. People just say it's because the channel crashed but it can't be that bad. Most channels are empty now.

Today, I tested out one of my theories and cerb spawned 4 times in a row.

See when it comes to Cerberus, the only way to know for sure he's gonna spawn is for someone to see the notification "Field Boss Is Spawning Soon". Boss will spawn in the map 2 hours later. So today there was a confirmed cerb kill, and I sent someone to camp the map where he's supposed to spawn next 2 hours after his death; the time the announcement supposed to appear. And it did.

We repeated this process several times and we keep seeing the announcement and cerb kept spawning on time. Whenever we camped for the announcement, I noticed we were the only ones on the map. Assuming we were never there, the boss might've not appeared like usual.

Anyway, the theory here is that after any boss that is not Kubas or Dullahan dies, 2 hours later in his map (or the alternate map), there have to be a player there, even if there's no announcement. If there are players, it will spawn on time 2 hours after that, exactly 4 hours after death.

I can't confirm this theory of mine 100%, but it does explain bosses that skip their spawn time when the server is healthy, and the fact that it's the first time I saw cerb spawn 4 times in a row. At most it was just 2, even all the way back to icbt2.
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>>145628827
no one will ever love you
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>>145628827

now that youre high 1 youre stuck with it. i went high 2 pelt 1 squire 1 fencer 1 templar.

given youre going to be a templar anyway it doesnt really matter, just dont go hop or cata now that youve gone memelander.
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what are you supposed to do when someone kills your blue mob?
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>>145628827
Go full squire or full tanker if you are going to have squire anyway.

Or be like Katz, Sword Highlander Barb 3 Doppel, which can deal some burst damage to claim the WB cube if the boss every spawn on him, or teleport to member that spotted and summon the DPS for WB-ing.
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>>145629035
write their name in your deathnote and move on
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>>145628959
>world boss secret
>common knowledge
people put squires on these maps in Klaipedo
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>>145629035
Be a bokor so you can hex shinies if someone's about to try to steal them from you
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>>145629035
realize it was 11 levels under you anyway
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Post your highest hit, /tosg/.

I was just scrolling my journal and found this, someone gave me the ice rune buff in a mission.
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>Getting hit for 1 damage interrupts your charge
Why is this allowed?
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Went for a cleric c2/ dievdyrbis c3 / druid c2 (or maybe druid->plague) build. Is it bad if I got cure lv.6, divine might lv. 3 (heal and safety zone are lv.10)? Did I fuck up by putting some points on the SP statue?
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Counter Spell:
You can remove debuffs on allies.
Deployment type spells cannot be removed by Counter Spell.

Oracle on suicide watch.
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>>145629254
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>>145626548
I like how your image name almost spells out GTFO
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>>145629574
>removes debuffs
What is even the point? Doesn't Oracle already have debuff protection?
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>>145629574

most sure they are doing this to gave this effect (ground removal) to a new r8+ class with magnetic earth or ganbantein sort of skill

I feel sorry for my bro, he went cleric c2, priest c3, oracle into PD, with lot's of SPR he was just laughing over all nerfs/buffs because his build was still pretty solid, even more powerful after bless buff, but now...
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>>145629379
because you got hit
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>>145629209
>stop a white monster for 6 seconds with chrono
>cooldowns still haven't reset enough to kill it
at least he agreed to duel me after and then left
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>>145629759
The new attribute for counter spell is nice though.

- (New) Counter Spell: Enemy Target Attribute:
- When this attribute is active, it exclusively nullifies the enemy's magic.
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>>145629562
Get divine might to lv 5
Cure and Safety zone depends on how much DPS you want to do, i went Cure10 and Safety Zone is still good with the attribute.
I also went Carve1 and put points in Zemyna and it helps, yes people chug potions but the SP recovery and reduction is visible, especially during a Rexipher fight where that Statue really shine
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>>145629928
so elememes are even more useless in pvp?
counter spell doesn't work on things like pole and summons.
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>>145629574
Oracle is such a shit class
Did it really need a nerf?
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>>145630191
that's a lot of black boxes
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>>145630159

You don't get damaged by pole if you're inside of Counter spell. Summons are physical based.
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>>145630232
>Oracle
>shit
Play the game.
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>>145629621

That's a massive TU.

How Joint Penalty works with TU? I can link 10 mobs and TU the undead one and obliterate everything?
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>>145629562
Cure 6/Safety 10 isn't TOO terrible. You're doing an INT cleric build, however, and would have benefited with more levels of cure. Not sure why you chose not to have DM at 5 however.

SP statue depends on your taste. Some dievs ditch it altogether for more points to use for other skills. I left it at 1 to use for bonfires.
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>>145630232
it seems like they're nerfing all the support classes in ktos and leaving damage classes alone
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>>145630232
Oracle is good for lewding.
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>>145630282
Their only useful skills are Prophecy, which is a crappier Bloodletting, and Counterspell.
Maybe you should play the game.
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>>145630191

Just PM'd that guy and he gave me your name.

Prepare yourself.
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>>145630060
I already have them at that level lol, guess this build is a bit gimped
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>>145630191
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>>145630385
>counterspell
>not worth the rank all by itself
Play the game.
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>>145630431
Except now it got nerfed.
Whoops, there goes that!
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>>145630385
That crappier bloodletting allows you to go jew for super reflect and still have the same basic function as a r7 class.
It's pretty okay.
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>he got banned for illegal addons

Discord shitters BTFO
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>>145630812
We got it the first 50 times you posted it, thanks.
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>>145630408
No not really
Clerics are really flexible compared to other class
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>me and my discord guild are about to quit the game over these bans, we already posted on reddit about this
let the chemo begin in /tosg/
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which class lets me go fast
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>>145630812
dmn was the only one who got banned, not discord
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>>145626548
I want that Kino to dom me
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>>145630996
Cataphract
Also, don't forget to bully your Ryouna.
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>>145630301
I think so. If the Turn Undead instakill procs on one it will proc on every other linked enemy.
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>>145630996
chrono
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>>145630982
bye
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>>145630385
>3 rank for elementalist for a Frost cloud.
>1 rank of Oracle for Counterspell

???
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>>145630996
Cataphract with full buff.
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>>145630982
>Reddit
Seriously?
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>he uses discord for a korean mmo to join a clique of epic 4channers
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Can anyone explain why I should run any dungeon besides 130 at all even at level 200 if I don't care about the exp?

130 is 10x easier to rush than 200 or 190 and not only that gives petamion which is worth more than any of the other shit.
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>>145630812
Pure maidens of discord don't use addons!
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>>145630996
Cataphract with pocket Chrono
Invest into your pet HP and Evasion
Get +5k or more hp and 60 evasion when riding it
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>>145630812
>>145630982
>>145631193
Avatarfagging is bannable you colossal piece of shit, no-one cares about discord except for you.
Go back to your shithole and take your shit with you.
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Anyone else having trouble going to character selection once you've picked a character?
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>>145631267
wat
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>it's not JUST a voice program, it's a community! remember to like and subscribe and follow me on discord!
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>>145631117
>30s cd spell vs 90s cd spell
What point are you trying to make even?
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when the day goes by
there is water all around
and the day goes by
lolipans a fuckin clown
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>>145630982
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>4chan discord
>"it's not an avatarfaggoting clique group of shitposters we swear!"
>t. discordname
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give me reason to keep playing this shit game.
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>>145631380
Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the middle with (You)
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Do you guys do anything but shitposting?
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what is the better option Doppel or Fencer? both seem fun
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>>145631523
Just wait until Monday's patch notes, we're getting lots of new costumes, balance, and optimization!
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>>145631668
Monk
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>>145631370

Not him but..

Arcane Energy adds 100 Damage to all of your attacks just like that Arde that people freak out about. Counter Spell protects you against all forms of magic and can be extended by Mesltis. Forecast has a 5% chance for you to not take any damage at all. If timed correctly, you can have 100% uptime to Prophecy due to the 25s CD AND you can get rich farming stuff with all of that utility JUST for one rank of a class.
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>>145631668
doppel is better but go fencer if you want to be a whore
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>see a 4channer in my dungeon party
>follow around for exp but don't do anything
>laugh at them if they cry about it
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>>145631714
>Arcane Energy adds 100 Damage to all of your attack
is that what the attribute actually does or are you just being a misinfo agent?

> Arcane Energy: Additional Damage
>Enemies receive holy damage equal to [attribute level] within the range of [Arcane Energy].
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>>145631516
>>145631368
>>145631193
>>145630982
>>145630812
An undisclosed action has been taken
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>>145631819

Yeah, at Lv100 its exactly 100 additional damage.
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>oh no I can't defend my autistic adware program
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>>145631819
Sounds like misinfo agent to me.
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>>145631714
Arcane Energy is pretty cool for every class that isn't Sorcerer. When it comes to Sorc, I just get bitter that I have to keep right clicking it.
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Is the autopotion addon bannable? I wanna afk in bees for a few weeks and laugh at the shitkids who report me.
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>>145631891
I'm a futureshitter and I still think you're a retard, stop falseflagging discord
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>>145631820
>>145631891

>>145631947
im a futureshitter and you're not one of us, stop falseflagging retard and kys
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>>145631914
If you had to ask then you probably know the answer already.
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>>145632043
Kill yourself, Redditor.
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>>145631914
it's not bannable, it's not even detectable by IMC in the first place
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>>145631914
Not bannable.

Been using it for 3 weeks already.
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>>145632040
reminder lolipan is in the discord as well, futureshitter
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>>145632061
The fuck are you even talking about?
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>if Discord is superior then why do you still even come here then?
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lolipan, the guy spamming this shit is the one named "sbhsfgdbhfgbhalg" or whatever

feel free to kick him so he'll fuck off already
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>>145631714
I'd love to believe that's what the attribute really does but I just can't.
It sounds just like the Divine Might attribute by its description and that's not at all what that one does.
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>>145631228
>Filthy discord ERP'ers
>Pure
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>>145632261
nice try discord

you wont fool my lolipan you literal cancer faggot
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>>145628959
Do they spawn in the channel the announcement was made? or can they spawn in any channel in the map the announcement was made?

What about the alternate map? Can he spawn in the alternate map if the announcement was made in the first map?
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>>145632289

It's real, I have an Oracle.
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>"if it wasn't for Discord I literally couldn't fit in with the 4channers and I'd be alone"
>t. redditor in /tosg/
>>
>it's yet another discord shitflinging and falseflagging episode
Time to spice up the thread by saying my Corsair3 is superior for wb cube hunting by going full con and aaing the shit out of any world boss proccing all the pillaging.
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Just got scammed, trading an arde for a templeshooter... please someone kill me.
Anyway, i guess that was the sign to stop playing, see ya /tosg/, i know you never saw me but i've been here for a long time.
Sad thou i'm not in klaipeda server and wasn't possible to meet ye all
Good luck saviors!
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Don't forget to fuck your monk today, /tosg/!

AND QUIT WITH THE DISCORD / ANTI-DISCORD SHITPOSTING ALREADY JESUS
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>>145631714
>Arcane Energy
That's not at all how that attribute works. It's the same as the Divine Might attribute in that it just damages enemies for 100 damage when the spell is cast.
Even if it did work that way, enjoy spending 74,289,926 silver for exactly 100 damage.
>Counter Spell
It also instantly breaks if people walk in and out of it too many times.
>Farming
You're not going to "get rich" with two loot rerolls every 2.5 minutes. It'll take longer to break even with the cost of the Change attribute than it would to just farm the money normally.

Forecast and Prophecy are the only ones I'll give you.
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>>145632582
S-Should I start a monk?
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>>145632541
15% x world boss cube chance which is what 10%?

Nice 0.015 per hit proc chance.
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>>145632582
This is my bitch.
>>
alchemists

combine a fire rod and an ice rod

you're welcome
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>>145632575
If you play again in klai, I'll throw you a card
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>>145632329

If say it spawns in 2 maps, then it will alternate. If cerb dies in 5f, next announcement and spawn will be on 4f and vice versa.
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>>145632575
holy shit you were the guy that shouted that earlier? you should have asked here first anon.

if i get another one soon i'll give it to you.
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>>145632380
No proof of said whatever in action.
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>game is almost dead
>Discord is shitposting in full force
but why
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>>145632575
RIP I almost got scammed for my level 10 TS a few days ago too and I honestly wasn't going to care if they did scam it or not. This game isn't worth the time or the potential fun, see you later man.
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Reminder about Alchemists.
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>>145632645
Cleric 2 -> whatever -> Monk
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>>145632582
The only Monk I pay attention to wears a hat. Monks aren't for lewding.
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>>145632668
>implying anyone will fall for shit without pic proof
I bet you're the falseflagger from last thread talking about how 4 superior gem bracelet = 1 gem bracelet
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>>145632575
>want a 10 star ts
>was gonna trade my arde for one
>see this
Nope.
I really want one, but fuck.
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>>145632709
>game is almost dead
>almost
Well, about that.
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>>145632631

Nigger I own an Oracle, each attribute level raises damage by 1 point. I only got it up to 50 and it's easily noticable.
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>>145632575
>trading an arde for a templeshooter

>I traded 150 talt for 20 talt and still got scammed

TOP KEK
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>>145632709
fuck off discord
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>>145631714
>counterspell
>ground targeted spell
>implying it's affected by melstis
Misinfo agents abound. Try harder.
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>>145632575
I can give you an arde and a TS card.
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>>145632661
The actual rate becomes actually higher for drawn-out battle especially when you go dwa.
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>>145632631
Probably better off with corsair or thaum for drops to sell if you wanna get rich quick. Oracle is fun though, changing mobs into things that are way over levelled in questing areas is too much fun, doing it on all channels on a map is even more fun
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>>145632767
wow a loss of two items worth less than 30k

play the game, you fucking retard. go kill yourself. it's a real thing, by the way.
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>>145632863

Counter Spell is a buff
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>>145624334
Questing with special friend!
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>>145632575
When I do card trading, I always ask for my share first. If I'm selling the card, I ask for trade first then cardbattle. Otherwise, I ask for cardbattle first then trade.

Always put yourself first. There will still be someone willing to go second. This way, you'll never be scammed. If you're an asshole, you can be the scammer instead.
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>>145632645

Do it.
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>>145632808
the day we hit less thank 10k you can call it dead but we're still cruising
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>>145632824
Provide proof then, faggot.
Also
>Even if it did work that way, enjoy spending 74,289,926 silver for exactly 100 damage.
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>>145632676
If it becomes available to change to klai, i would gladly transfer
>>145632694
probably not, i was in silute server, fedimian city
>>145632713
thanks all
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>>145632862

the ride never ends
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>>145632846
He's obviously talking about a lvl10 ts card you shitter. Play the game.

>>145632713
>>145632775
Always go first in pseudo trades. ALWAYS. If they refuse, you can always find another person who's willing. There is ALWAYS someone who's willing to go second.
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>>145633084
>making a deal with beaners
You're completely the one at fault here.
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>>145633084
>Silute
>trading with BRs
come on senpai
>>
>>145633168
>He's obviously


Fuck off redditnigger.
>>
>>145632734
Level 10 SP isn't actually dropping, though. 730 was the lowest it's reached and it keeps going back up. They were at 900 for quite a while yesterday before dropping to 750. Sure, they aren't at the old 1.3k, but that's because a lot of the server has reached the point where they just get free 45s cooldown potions.
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>>145633045

It's a futureproof spell, it'll be relevant down the road and an obvious good spell to spend money at.
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>>145632824
You're not fooling anyone. Counterspell doesn't work with melstis. All misinfo. Post proof otherwise, BUT YOU CAN'T CAN YOU?
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>>145633293
>100 damage per hit
>futureproof
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>>145633236
How the fuck is that even related to reddit? (You) need to play the game faggot.
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>>145633293
>100 damage for 74.3m shekels
>futureproof
There's misinfo that is believable and then there's pure retarded delusion.
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>>145633280

tfw theyre 950 lowest 1100 usually on orsha
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>>145631195
200 is faster than 130 and manameme/cata club are more valuable than petamion recipe. Also mineloader drops nothing worthwhile.
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>always wondered why barrage never really shoot the way I'm facing
>just discovered that it actually shoots at what I'm targeting
I'm retarded?
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>>145632775
it was a 6 star ts :( i knew it was overpriced but i wasn't going to kill the world boss
>>145632872
i know you won't anon, but thanks
>>145632986
i knew it could happen but still, traded it anyway... sometimes i forget how mmos are
>>
Evasion or HP recovery socket in boots?
I am a Cata
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>>145633418
Hit a nerve?
Fuck off redditnigger.
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>>145633398
>>145633425

It's a party-wide buff, everyone will get 100 damage buff.
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>>145633472
>i know you won't anon, but thanks
>you won't
Of course I couldn't, I didn't know you're on Silute.
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>>145632754
>lewd Monks with hats on
I can do that!
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>>145632734
>people losing money crafting potions to sell
>they still sell them anyways
Are these people stupid? How can you not notice that you're losing money? Why don't they just stop selling them?
>>
>>145633571
You better buy that playboy outfit. I need to see you in it for reasons.
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>>145633571
I mean, you're close to the Monk I was thinking of, but you have the wrong ears
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>>145633545
Sure, spend all your money on that first rather than prioritizing other skills.
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kTOS ONRY
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>>145633613
There goes the hair budget, I guess.
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>>145633545
>cropped static pictures of damage numbers
This doesn't proof anything misinfo agent. Post a video showing you actually using the spell and doing damage before and after. And do it without your weapon for flat damage.

Do you even know how to show proof properly? Obviously not cause you're a lying misinfo agent.
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>>145633293
>100 flat damage
>futureproof
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>>145633716

>Going through all of that just to prove some random anon wrong.

I'm not autistic, this is as much as you'll get out of me.

>>145633743

It applies to multi-hit skills too.
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>>145633701
>playboy outfit
>heart eyes
>all actual items in the game
My body is ready. For never since itos isn't going to get anything.
>>
>>145633701
WAY
TOO
LEWD
!!!!!!!!
>>
>>145633701
Staff_MAX better not be pulling our fucking legs when he says "wait for next maintenance".

I get the feeling we're going to get like ONE costume that was released in Korea a month ago.
>>
>>145633452
On Klai the Petamion Recipe is 6.5m-ish, Cata Club and Manamana are both around 4.5m.
Unless you just want loads of Talt to eventually trade for things chances you get something good are definitely higher in the 200 dungeon though.
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>>145633701
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>>145633834
It is going to be one outdated costume
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>>145633524
Shitposters are on edge today. Succ me nigger. I'm from discord AND reddit and I'll be posting on 4chan forever, you can't get rid of me :^)
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>>145633798
>It applies to multi-hit skills too.
People are already able to hit for over 10k on a single strike. (Some cases even more, far more) That means that in those situations... in the current state of the game it would take at least 100 hits to equal the power of a single strike.
That's now. You really think it's futureproof?
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>>145633701
>ESRB - Teen
So what's this about again? Demographic or the contents?
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>>145633838
Fedimian has peta for 4.5, manamana for 6.6.
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>>145633834
>>145633884
>itos players are so used to disappointment, no one expects anything anymore
I want to quit this game man. Why did they have to be the one to get the perfect pseudo 2d style mmo visuals right but everything else so dead wrong.
>>
>>145633701
I told you guys, volume curl is the sluttiest hairstyle.
>>
>>145632327
fuck off bot
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>>145633972

Would you ever remove your Karacha Dagger or Arde Dagger? Any amount of damage increase is always more relevant than any other thing.
>>
>>145632582
What is it with Discord? Why are many people getting ape with it, it's just like any teamspeak client isn't it?
>>
>Dungeon Run
>2 guys are at a fucking STUPID level disadvantage, while a bowfag has low con
>2 guys keep refusing to stick around for ressing
>Bowfag goes down immediately after he sees me piss res away on one of these dumbasses who don't get it
>He decides to just lay there despite knowing I'm on cooldown

I just can't fucking win with these guys.
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>>145633972
But
ONE
HUNDRED
(100)
DAMAGE
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>>145634157
For a Lolopanther dagger? Yes.
>>
> qs 3 with arde
> dungeon group with a chaplain
> get buffed

I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS MUCH DAMAGE

>>145634238
i dont know. i really dont. its thread nationalism shitposting, trolls trolling trolls with an unhealthy amount of summer for seasoning.
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>>145634017
can I transfer to Fedimian?
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>>145634157
>any amount of damage increase is always more relevant
Play the game.
>>
Why are comfy hunting wb now?

Is the world boss actually pinoy?
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>>145633701
Fapping to this
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>>145634436
You should probably consider acquiring better taste
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>>145634285

That's how this works, if you had a Lolo dagger on top of this then you'll be dealing 100+ on top of what Lolo provides without having to sacrifice anything. Even that Elememe will be doing more damage with their frostclouds due to this.
>>
>trying to farm the mats that I sell to make money
>some cata faggot comes and starts choo choo'ing all over the place on his mount killing things
>start to sing the song of my people to scare him away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc22xVV5c_k&feature=youtu.be&t=121
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>>145634518
You are too stupid to understand that a less than 1% damage increase won't be something that anyone cares about.
It isn't futureproof.
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>>145634379
It gets more ridiculous when you add linker2
>that buff sharing
>that running shot on chaplain
If it's not only for AA this would be the only party combination you will ever needed.
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>>145633959
>my little redditnigger can't be this triggered
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>>145634518
>100 flat damage
>futureproof
Stay delusional
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>>145634535
Did i just ruined your morning?
Morning Cata trotting and kill stealing everything for farming is a thing i do daily
>>
>>145634535
Sorry wrong link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3n_NsvGZSg
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>>145634646

If people care about their Ardes, Karacha or Lolo then they obviously will care about a buff. It's free damage which comes with other benefits aswell.
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>>145634238
Fuck off discord. Only a discordnigger would defend their malware.
>>
>>145634816
fuck off discord
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>>145634661

>running/kneeling shot with chaplain buffs in a circling zone

i cannot wait to hit falconer
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>>145631714
>Arcane Energy adds 100 Damage to all of your attacks just like that Arde that people freak out about.

This is bullshit.
Stop talking bullshit.
>>
>>145634805
You don't know what the word future means do you?
You listed a bunch of things that will invariably be irrelevant in the future.
>>
>>145634816
Stop it. Talk about someone else.
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>>145634805
>74,289,926 shekels attribute
>+100 damage
>b-but it's just like arde guys! I swear!
>futureproof
Play the game.
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>>145634887
But the only thing that benefits from Fwee~ is your multi-shot and your c7.
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>I'm too deep into the adware and botned so I'm going to drone about it on 4chan boards every day
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>>145634262
>dungeon
>level disadvantage
You can't even get into a dungeon if you don't meet the level requirement.
>>
>>145635034
oh the irony
>>
>>145634238
It's just futureproof shitposting hour as usual
>>
>tfw a discordfag likes you
>>
>>145635065
fuck off botnet
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>>145630550
Learn to read korean.
>>
>>145635080
it's discordshitters shitting up the thread.
>>
>>145635017
You're so mean...
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>pick the most useless goodbuild(tm) I ever played
>keep getting extremely fast and comfy dungeon comps and lucky drops

feels good desu
>>
>>145634903
>>145635028

The fact that it's a party-wide buff means that you're providing 100 extra damage to your whole party. That's 500 extra damage which adds up in the long run, especially if you have a lot of multihit-skills and spells. Sure, it's not as strong as Sacrament or Blessing but hey.
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>>145634816
now we just need Dvine, Hime and Flet to come back
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>he installed windows 10 and discord on the same computer!
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>>145635246
Or you could just roll a thaum.
>>
>>145635246
What part of 74,289,926 silver = 100 damage buff do you not understand?
>>
>>145635045
I meant mission run.
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>>145635246
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>>145634663
Says the the faggot who's triggered by discord and reddit. We're here to stay forever :^)
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>>145635290

Thaums can't heal though.

>>145635301

74m is nothing considering that I get 2m per day?
>>
>>145635238
>Wiz C3 thaum
I don't get why this meme is popular now, why not just go pyro thaum or something
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JUST
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>>145635301
First number after the second comma, left to right. Is that a 7?
>>
Fucking Americans stop shitting the thread. REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
Futureproof is the only true /tosg/ guild, all others are fucking garbage. Seriously, have you discord/secondaries ever been around ktos?
>>
>americunt peak hour
>thread goes to shit
It's always the americunts.
>>
>>145635362
I got some super cool meme build cooking up
It's gonna be real good
>>
>>145635384
It's a seven.
>>
>>145635362
Wiz C3 is futureproof.
Gotta get that quick cast bonus damage.
>>
>>145635191
>Discord hater spamming discord hate memes
>its discordshitters shitting up the thread
when will the false flagging end?

Just how low does the spammer think the intelligence of 4channers are?
>>
>>145635423
You got a point senpai, Futureproof was the first /tosg/ guild
>>
>>145635423
>have you discord/secondaries ever been around ktos?
>half of Clover's actives were from the original Futureproof guild, including Karga himself
Were you even there, anon?
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>Full CON Wizard
>Having a shield equipped
It's like having surecast up all the time
>>
>>145635470
not much but just all of futureproof given by lolipan's autistic shouts and posts, the rest of your guild are just as bad and shitty despite shitposting...

and harping on about your pvp superiority no one gives a fuck about
>>
>>145635463
>futureproof
They're going to nerf it into the ground.
>>
>>145635359
Sure, enjoy maxing it after 37 days, dumb cunt. You claimed you're not an autist earlier for not making webms, but you're a true autist alright.
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Please cease your shitposting
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>>145635575
Fuck off discord.
>>
>>145635470
see
>>145635580
and fuck off discord
>>
I just found a panto gem while farming for some panto horns. Does it do anything special or should i just sell it?
>>
>>145635614
>thinks everyone is from fp
oh I get it now, this is why people hate discordfags
>>
>>145635580
we get it bot/rance/lolipan/namelessfutureshitnoonecaresabout
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>>145635638
Tell discord that.
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>>145635630

What's autistic about playing the game?
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>>145635575
>Only 4 people of Clover are from original FP
>The rest is neo /tosg/ and discord
>>
>>145635638
tell FP that
>>
>>145635605
Enjoy being a moving burden if you are an elememe.
>>
>>145635621
Jokes on you. itos doesn't get any balance content or content in general.
>>
If I get one of those black and white boaters through DPE I'll give a tosger one of them.
>>
>>145635779
>spend 74mil just for a less than 1% damage increase
>doesn't think it's autistic
Did you buy the 50mil finisher too?
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>>145635830
Karga is OG Futureproof, DO NOT BULLY
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>>145635847
>implying I would ever play elememe
>>
>>145635605
>full con wizard
>do no damage
k
>>
>>145635712
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/643512/

Depending on the monster, a monster gem increases a certain skill by one level if you equip it to a weapon. Your's happens to be for Pommel Beat. Never heard that skill ever been talked about so I don't know if the gem is worth anything or not. Probably not.

You could always just infuse it with another gem for a bunch of exp if it really isn't worth anything.
>>
>>145635771
>>145635831
I prefer to ask everyone
>>
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>>145635779
That's just 1m, I thought you could do 2m?
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>>145636002
No. You fuck off discord.
>>
>>145636001
Infusing it for exp? How does that work? Sorry. I'm relatively new to the game.
>>
>>145635898
Can't wait, I'm going to vendor it as soon as I get it.

>>145635965
I always expected this image to be a gif/webm and it makes me hit the desk everytime it's not
>>
>>145635993
Looks like someone doesn't understand how damage works in this game.
>>
>>145635712
Put it in storage
>>
Well at least its not doomposting.

Carry on.
>>
>>145635965
Karga was a "discord spy" for Loli back then
>>
Post webms I still deciding what to make on my alt.
>>
>>145636084
Looks like someone is still a sub r6 babby who hasn't encountered his first 100k hp mob.
>>
Does anyone use necro for afk farming?
>>
>>145635961

I haven't spent a single dollar on this game, everything I have is farmed or given to me by friends that quit the game.

>>145636029

I'm too busy with E3, barely playing at all.
>>
>>145636016
I don't know what's worse, being in discord or some futureproof shitter that lurks inside discord for shitposting
>>
>>145635898
Is it really from infrorocktor?
>>
>>145636001
>see niggers in shout chat alldayerryday trying to sell monster gems for skills that are best left at level1 or not taken at all
I swear free mmos always attract the idiots.
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>>145636109
Doomposting schedule is on Mondays to Wednesdays.
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>>145636175
kill yourself
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>>145636159
Keep proving that you don't understand math.
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>>145635965
Karga and the rest of the discordfags don't count.
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>tfw this is probably the most active the thread has been for the last day or so now.
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>>145636168
Well, chop chop nigga, you need to meet your quota. You still have 73m to go.
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>>145636257
fuck off sdffggdhddsf
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>>145635423
Fuck off guy in FP with the bot name.
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>>145636168
>talking about ingame money
>I haven't spent a single dollar on this game
We already know you're retarded. You don't need to further prove to us you have brain damage.
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>>145636016
>>145636016
>>145636016
>>145636297
>>145636297
>>145636297
learn to type retard
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>>145636293

It's at 52 at the moment, i'll work on it when I get home.
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>>145636076
I don't use Discord, though
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>>145635712
>>145636001
Also forgot to mention you can't really sell it at the market. You'll have to do some complicated shit. Basically you have to trade the buyer's weapon to you, socket the gem into the weapon, and trade it back. All wasting a bunch of points of potential of the weapon.

>>145636082
You can level gems by sitting down (insert key), pressing a key to open up a menu for gems (I think its the s key, but there's like 4 different options it won't be hard to find out), place the gem you want to level up on the slot, and then choose any gem/gem abrasive/material you want to use to level it up.
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>>145636275
If you are full con on a dps wizard build you are objectively worthless garbage. Literally the only possible except is kino due to high base damage but even then nobody's going to take you in parties for your damage.
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>>145636348
Only discordshitstains defend their malware. Kill yourself faggot.
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>>145636283
90% of it is one anon shitposting about discord and one anon shitposting against discord.
You can see from the 75 unique ip that the posters havn't actually gone up, its just one or two especially loud individuals.
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>>145636335

Considering how easy it is to get money on this game, I find it laughable how you deem 100m an impossible number.
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>>145632958
Woah. Quests at Maven Abby!?

Korea please.
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>>145636401
You objectively don't understand how damage works in this game.
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>>145636084
>>145636275
>full con wiz
>0 damage added is 0 damage
>hence do no damage
>hurrrr you don't know math
The retards are out in full force tonight.
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>>145636404
>Defend their malware
I haven't, you moron. I told you to stop shitposting, there's a difference. Stop shitting up the thread with the most unrelated discussion since the one that involved an hour long conversation on whether it's okay for people to call you a girl
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> discord shitposting
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>>145636461
>damage in ToS only comes from base INT
>implying base INT is even the main source of your damage in ToS
kek
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>>145636460
No anon that would be you.
Full con wizards are garbage.
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>>145636440
tell me your secrets
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>>145636461
Full CON DPS wizard is actually better if the player is a shitter who don't have enough shekel to invest in attributes.

The difference became big when you have points in attribute level.
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>>145636440
>telling you how retarded you are when you bring up real money when the conversation was about ingame money
>implying I said anywhere 100m is an impossible number which is even less relation to the conversation at hand
Do you really need to prove how stupid you are? You're just digging yourself deeper into your grave. Just stop man.
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>>145636558
>Implying you can deal 5k per tick of frost cloud with full CON,
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>>145636605
Up to what level do people usually level attributes?
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>>145636558
Full con builds are objectively, mathematically proven to be at LEAST a 30% dps loss on every viable dps wizard build which becomes greater depending on class and attributes.
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CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHAT IS DISCORD?

Is it a guild? Is it an program? Is it an app?
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>xfire is great anon, install it, it'll last forever, it's not adware!
>curse client is great anon, install it, it'll last forever, it's not adware!
>battle.net is great anon, install it, even if you don't play blizzard games!
>Uplay is great anon, install it, you are a gamer right?
>Origin is here to stay and full of great games! Install it!
>Ventrilo doesn't expose your IP at all! Those are all rumors!
>Skype is completely safe and makes phones entirely obsolete!
>RaidCall is great you should get it for your MMO needs and FREE voice chat!
>GameSpy will always be relevant and used, just install it today!
>Install all these relevant programs using our installer.exe that install all gaming related programs every vidya GAMUR needs amirite!? XD

>Discord is the newest thing, are you not cool? Don't you want to be a cool kid? It'll be relevant and forever in use! Don't be behind! Get discord and socialize at /r/discord on Reddit!
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>discord guild goes from dead to half-dead
>thread immediately devolves into shitslinging

They really are cancer.
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>>145636605
>comparing someone with attributes to someone without attributes
And a full int dps wizard with attributes is actually better than your shitass full con dps wizard.
How about you make a fair comparison before spouting off your bullshit and maybe people will take you seriously.
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>>145636508
Anyone who's been here since iCBT2 actively shits on discord. You're either a newfag or a discordfag.
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>>145636658

I assumed you were talking about real money with that random Finisher comment. I have every relevant weapon in game, all of my attributes are leveled up to 50 and there's nothing else to spend on the game besides attribute. It's obvious that I'll spend it on attributes I know that are worth it.. and you are getting triggered by this? You simply treat Silver as if it were very hard to come by.
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>actually a member of futureproof
>not gonna deny there's a couple people that rub me the wrong way
>but 99% sure none of this shitposting, including the ebin futureproof superiority shit, is actually any of us
I don't get it. What is the point? Trying to make a guild look bad for what?
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>>145636795
It's like vent
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>>145636891
Here's a secret, go back to the Corpse Tower image and search the image in the archive
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>>145636915
fuck off discord
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>>145636742
The percentage is the same, but the flat number became bigger when the attribute level is higher.

>>145636736
To solo reliably as an high to full INT elememe, you will need around 40 to 60 attribute level in frost cloud so that you can one shot everything in storage/workshop.
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>>145636915
Fuck off discord falseflagger.
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>>145636461
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>>145636973
>>145637006
Why are you shitting up the thread again? Slow is fine if it avoids this garbage.
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>>145636886
Learn to fucking read, it's the exact same thing you are saying.

>>145636605
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>>145636953
Anyone can easily get an image from the archives. fuck off discord.
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>>145636798

DISCORDFAGS

B
T
F
O
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>>145636915
see >>143003203
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>>145636902
>random Finisher comment
>I said 50 mil finisher which is obvious ingame money
>hurrrrrrrr I thought you were talking about real money
>attributes that are worth it
I don't think you know what the word worth means.
>knowing the worth of silver means I think it's very hard to come by
Deeper and deeper. Maybe try learning english and the definition of the word "worth" before you try talking.
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>>145637140
>/rog/ boogeyman
Fuck off discord.
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>>145637114
Not when it's literally been posted one time, and by me. At this point, I'd sooner accuse you of being from Discord because you cannot stop mentioning it literally every post
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>>145637087
>comparing full int to full con wizard
>huuuuuuurrrrrrrrr WIZARD WITH ATTRIBUTE IS BETTER THAN WIZARD WITHOUT ATTRIBUTE
How about you learn to read?
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Every 2 months I come into one of these threads just to ask how the game is going

Did they fix pets yet?

Did they do any decent changes (to boss spawns, mob spawns)?

Is there any items out that are interesting?

Thanks again
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If Luchador had a finishing move skill, what pro-wrestling move would it be?
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>>145637214

You're autistic anon..
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>>145637325
Fuck off, we're busy shitposting each other. We don't have time for your shitty questions.
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>>145637303
>Circular reasoning
>Can't just admit he's shitposting the thread
Fuck off discord.
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>>145637316
He meant at low attribute level full CON wizard is better than full INT wizard.

At high attribute level the difference became big (implying that the full INT wizard is better).

Which fucking retard would compare a build without attribute level to one with attribute level?

>Full CON DPS wizard is actually better if the player is a shitter
Obviously he is bashing the Full CON dps wizard.
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>>145637410
>damage formula discussion is shitposting
Please kill yourself reddiscord ERP fucking faggots.
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>>145637381
That's really funny coming from you.
>this worthless attribute where I have to spend a ton of money on for a completely worthless less than 1% damage boost is totally worth it
>you're autistic if you can't understand this
Why is it always the retards out at full force at this hour? Is it the americunts? It's the americunts isn't it.
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>>145637325
Yes they fixed alot of pets issues

Nope still sucks

Same old
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>>145637330
You pin down boys with your thighs and make them confess to you. They die of embarrassment.
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>>145637316
>>145637474
I'm the one who posted that. And yeah, that's what I meant.
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>>145636798
>>145636798
>>145636798

Not one Discordfag can even refute any of these.

Most of them aren't even old enough to know half of those programs.
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>>145637469
>Circular reasoning
No, you cannot stop spouting it, just because you got called a shitposter. I don't use Discord, because even if I did I'd be talking only to people not on my own server. Now you go back to it
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Full con apologists wouldn't sound half as dumb if they admitted that INT builds are mathematically, objectively, better for PVE.
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>>145637497
>MY BUILD IS BETTER THAN YOUR BUILD
I don't see any damage formulas here anon.
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>>145637607
>b-but Full con with Animus has the same DPS as INT build!
I laughed everytime when I saw this argument. It's like they failed their primary school math or something.
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Full CON builds are retarded but not as retarded as installing Discord and joining the reddit clique of /tosg/.
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>>145637585
>I was only pretending to be retarded
>B-better accuse him of being a discordshitposter
Fuck off discord.
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>>145637536

I don't care about the amount of money I have to spend on an attribute that helps ME. Money comes by so easily that I simply don't care. If you have to becareful about what you level or not then sure, that's okay but in my case it simply doesn't matter. Why do YOU even care about what -I- do? You sound like that guy that gets pissed off because I always arrive home with a new car.
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hey faggots

me and this futurecuck are in a heated debate. he's shitposting in this thread right now.

he says zero was created by dr light
i say he was created by dr wily

his reasoning: zero is good, not bad
my reasoning: dr wily fucking created the motherfucker, you god damned idiot.

who's right?
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>>145637325
>>145637540
Pet issues are not fixed at all. Where is this coming from?

Hunter pets still have to be micromanaged to hit anything.

Both hunter and none hunter pets still miss their auto attacks 90% of the time cause they ran past the stationary mob to hit thin air.

The last update still did nothing to targeting with pets even though it said it did. I still end up targeting my pet while in combat.
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>>145637705
It's only fair for one of us to pretend, since you clearly have the legitimate case
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Discord is literal cancer to this thread.
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>>145637756
Atleast you admitted it. Now fuck off.
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>>145637547
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>>145637624
>stats and attributesdiscussion
>not related to damage formulas
>literal game discussion is shitposting
Neck yourself you fucking cancer. I just know you're one of those avatarfag ERP fucks because I never see any complaints about "shitposting" when the thread is dead except for cuteposting faggotry.
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I hate discord so much ARGH IT MAKES ME SO ANGRY
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>>145637474
>>145637570
>He meant at low attribute level full CON wizard is better than full INT wizard.
And I said it isn't.
>one has damage
>one has not
How is this so hard to understand?
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>>145637738

wily

now get out
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>>145637793
No, at least you didn't deny actually being retarded. Now fuck off
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>>145637858
>now get out
kill yourself, my cuck. i've been posting here since the first general. you get out, newfag.
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ARGH those futureshitters and non-discords I hate them dirty 4CHANNERS MAKE ME ANGRY
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>>145637841
Both has sht damage and require 2 frost cloud to kill the mobs. At least Full CON can survive longer.
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>>145637714
and thusly, you fail to grasp the concept of "worth".
Sure you can do whatever the fuck you want with your money, but don't say it's worth it when it's not just because you can waste money on it. I can always waste money by throwing it away, does that make it worth it?
I don't care what you do, but don't go around telling other people it's worth it.
Do you understand the english language a little bit better now?
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>>145637950
>he needs 2 frost clouds to kill mobs
lmao did you fall for the 1:1 int:con meme?
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>Finally got something other than gems from sparkly cube
>/tosg/ is too busy shitposting itself into oblivion to possibly be jelly
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>>145638012
>You can one shot mobs with full INT at low attribute level (0-20).
Show that to me after alemeth..
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>>145637821
Do you know what a damage formula is? Do you see any numbers being thrown around? All I see is
>MY BUILD IS BETTER THAN YOUR BUILD
Sure doesn't look like a damage formula to me.

When you start posting numbers then you can call it a damage formula.
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>>145638065
Post it and see whether we can bully how much of a fucking trash you got.
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>>145637950
>argument is about doing damage
>a-at least the full con can survive longer r-right?
>getting hit at all
gitgud
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Great thread guys
10/10

would archive again
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FUCK OFF DISCORD
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>>145638209
I'm not that full CON is better guy.

I'm arguing that at low attribute (0-20) full CON is actually better because both full INT and full CON require 2 frost cloud to actually kill the mobs, thus having higher HP is better.

Obviously I'm going for a high INT build because the difference is huge once you get to 30+ attribute level, where you can reliably one shot the mobs.
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Does elemental property attack not work with out of body? I feel so weak as a Sadhu.
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Anyone got the code for the autopot addon? Doggy removed it already.
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>>145636795
Think ventrilo/teamspeak and irc having a bastard child. That's Discord.
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>>145638381
git gud scrub
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>>145638338
Good thing you can swap stats easily so you can level with full con at low levels then swap to the superior full int build when you have high attributes amirite?
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Aight I killed 2500 infrorocktors, that shit dont exist

PEACE IM OUT
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>>145638110
>at low attribute level
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>>145637989

>I can always waste money by throwing it away, does that make it worth it?

I throw money away all the time to charity and it's worth it.

>I don't care what you do, but don't go around telling other people it's worth it.

You clearly do considering that you spent almost an hour replying to me. It is worth it because by definition an increase of DPS is an increase of DPS. Not to mention that the point of picking the class ISNT this at all, this is simply a side-dish.
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>>145638359
Don't you know? This game is as dead as Sadhu's prospective PvP career!
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>>145634000
Default content
Additional paid content does not subject to rating
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>>145638338
>require 2 frost cloud

Level 275 elementalist here with 50% attribute and S. Corona.

I can easily kill any non-ice elemental mob with 130k health with one frost cloud.

You're a fucking retard. I'm 40 CON and rest into INT and if I had stat reset I'd go full INT as it is fucking easy as fuck to get health from gear.
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>>145638359
It works.
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>>145638464
My initial argument is that full CON elememe is shitter because they only have their attribute at low level.

That's why they never realize the huge damage difference.
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>>145638537
You should never substitute health from gear for health from stats if you end up losing matk for it

ie any retard using maga rod/cata club
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>>145638537
>Obviously I'm going for a high INT build because the difference is huge once you get to 30+ attribute level, where you can reliably one shot the mobs.

Learn to fucking read.
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>Daino
is there any reason to level this above 5? surely nobody will ever need +16 buffs
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>>145638510
Except giving money to charity isn't throwing money away on something worthless. It's giving it to people who need it, thusly charity.

Don't try to skewer your arguments with retarded shit like this, no one is falling for it.

>HAY GUISE THIS ATTRIBUTE IS TOTALLY WORTH IT BECAUSE I HAVE TONS OF MONEY, YOU ALL SHOULD LEVEL IT TOO
>no anon it's not worth it just because you have money to waste
>WHY YOU GETTING ON MY CASE, WHAT DO YOU CARE WHAT I DO WITH MY MONEY
Full retard. You're trying to make a statement. Don't get mad when people are disproving your arguments.
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>>145638759
Not really, no.
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>>145638748
Fuck off retard.
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Discord shitposter got tried

DISCORD BOYS YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO
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>>145638792
Kill yourself.
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Angry out!
Cute in!
Memes out!
Cute in!
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>>145638537
I don't care either way but I just want to point out being reliant on gear for stats is a bad way to build your character as gear choices can change depending on what they put into the game.

If you're reliant on gear for stats, you'll forever be stuck with that specific gear and if it ever becomes obsolete, you're screwed.

See animus. It's good but it should be taken as a damage boost and not building your entire character around it.
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>>145638774

Giving money away doesn't benefit you at all, you're simply throwing it away. You only benefit if you get it back or if you make a profit out of it. I'm pretty sure that my original intention was on selling the class as a whole, everyone simply jumped on one simple part of the whole thing.
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>>145638759
>He doesn't know
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oh my god faglords just level your attributes what else is there to do in this shit game
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>>145638998
If I knew, I wouldn't be asking, you meme-loving fucktard.
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>>145637325
High level items tend to get wacky effects like Animus and Sissel bracelets.
Side arms like frost spray can actually freeze.

pet ai ain't fixed totally but things like bokor zombies now teleport automatically to your position when too far away.

Mob spawns are great on actual grinding maps. And there's a grinding map every 20-30 or so levels.
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>>145638998
>"he doesn't know" meme
Is this a new way to misinfo?
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>>145639008
Buy tokens.
That's what I did and now I'm rich.
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>>145638958
fwphthfhfwpppfhhhtffffwwfwe
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>>145639008
You probably are a sub-200 shitter and haven't done any of the high-level content ERP sessions with your guildmates.
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=481
>"You Had One Job!"
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>>145636795
Discord is an IM service pretending to be an app pretending to be a program. Much like TS/Vent/Mumble it's organized around creating and joining "servers", except these servers are treated more like IRC rooms/networks. You can be present on multiple servers at the same time, each server can have multiple text and voice channels, and as of recent updates you can set a per-server nickname for yourself (so you can go by your team name in the /tosg/ server and hunter name in /mhg/'s server).

The developers are meme-loving shitlords, which rubs a lot of people the wrong way, but I think they have a good product on their hands. People are just upset because changing or adding services/programs has to be done on faith, and any use of identifying handles or communiques outside of the thread proper is always accused of circlejerking (even without Discord there would be guild- or Steam-based shitposting -- do we even have a Steam group??).
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>>145639139
IT'S DAT BOI
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>>145639118
It's costume collector.
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>>145638983
>selling the class as a whole
>continues to hock on about how this attribute is futureproof and you should all level it
>people tell him why it's not futureproof and give reasons why it's not worth it
>WHY YOU GETTING ON MY CASE, WHAT DO YOU CARE WHAT I DO WITH MY MONEY
Maybe if you didn't contiue on like an ass about that one single attribute, we wouldn't be trying to disprove you now would we? You brought this upon yourself.
Man up if you want to make a statement. Don't pussy out halfway cause people make arguments against it. It just makes your argument look even weaker as you have nothing to back it up with other than
>I have lots of money so I can level it and you should do too
and then whine about it later when people tell you you're wrong.
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>>145639194
We had a steam group but it's pretty dead.
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>>145639060
On this subject, Sorc summons no longer get screwed by magical "you shall not pass" walls in poorly designed maps which previously forced you to use Ride or resummon it, since they now teleport directly to you. This didn't do anything to the bats, though, and they still get walled.

They also really need to apply that "you cannot target your companions while in combat" thing to Sorc summons. You still can and will target your Templeshooter or one of 10-16 bats, and no one wants to spam Hold when you're roaming a map
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>>145639060
>but things like bokor zombies now teleport automatically to your position when too far away.
As a zombie Bokor I'd like to state this is a great change.
I no longer need to hold down the Bwa Kayiman key constantly when moving about, run in circles forever trying to reel up massive zombie trains over enemies, or forego quest teleports in favor of keeping my zombies with me.
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>>145638958
Animus is shit anyway for its bonus but saying "don't build your character around one item" is also stupid.

People literally build Quarrel Shooters around Grand Cross and Didel Grand Cross.

Without those items you wouldn't even see as many of the class as you do, because auto attacking has no attributes in this game and their scaling is linear as fuck yet people make Didel Grand Cross quarrel shooters because it's a fucking meme and will instantly die off as new gear comes in.

Animus is shit. Apart from the magic attack it gives the magic amp is shit. Magic amp alone is shit. Even if you have 300 cont it just mounts up to 300 magic amp which is effectively 150 magic attack and since you're a retard with 300 con you're literally over 500 MATK behind a pure INT build even WITH Animus.

It's a terrible fucking item and every retard who goes full CON and picks up Animus needs to reroll right now because no one is going to take your elementalist into ET with that build so you can fucking kill yourself right now.

If you make an elementalist your whole fucking point in the game is to deal as much are of effect damage in the game as possible and you're literally THE BEST CLASS IN THE ENTIRE GAME WHEN IT COMES TO AREA DAMAGE AND NO ARCHER OR CYCLONE WILL EVER REPLACE YOU NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY RMT.

It's a fucking fact.

SO DON'T GO LEVELING CON NEEDLESSLY YOU FUCKING RETARD YOU ARE HERE TO DEAL DAMAGE AND IF YOU DIDN'T LEVEL INT YOU ARE A RETARD.

Reroll
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>>145639156
Someone had fun making this
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>>145639295

I already explained why it was good and why it was worth it and people should level it. I'm not forcing you to level it, I'm simply telling you that it's worth it and that it's your choice whenever you want to level it or not. I have the money and I choose to level it but if you don't have the money then don't so why the fuck can't you understand this you sperglord?
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>>145639086
What's so hard to understand? You should build your character based on your class skill choices and not your gear choices.

As later on when gear changes you won't be stuck with it. It's about being futureproof.

>inb4 skill balance changes
In that case everyone is fucked since you can't buy stat potions.
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>>145639156
>Hauberk in the Maze Quest: Even after defeating the monster, nothing happening
At least the problem is obvious. For whatever reason, Hauberk has to be killed by a skill. Auto attacking him will result in absolutely nothing at the end.
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>>145639156
>Shield Bash: CON not changing after getting hit by Rodelero's 'Shield Bash'.

i'm sure LP will like this
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>>145639118
Nigga it's obviously the build of cute_.
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>>145639406
>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=481
>Cryomancer
2) Snow Rolling skill causing the affected monsters to stand still and getting knocked back. And also the problem of monsters under the skill's effect, attacking the player character.
>under the skill's effect, attacking the player character.
cant wait for this fix
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>>145639156
>Snow Rolling: 1) A Cryomancer character being unable to move when casting Snow Rolling after receiving the 'Fade' effect from a Cleric character.- 2) Snow Rolling skill causing the affected monsters to stand still and getting knocked back. And also the problem of monsters under the skill's effect, attacking the player character.
It's like Christmas came early
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>>145639583
Just like my doujins...
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ADDTION: The following issue is not a bug but in fact an intended effect.

Priest

Blessing: Unable to be applied to Sadhu in an Out of Body state
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>>145639594
whoops >>145639156
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>>145639156
>this post seems awfully silly and lighthearted
>scroll up to see who posted it
>Staff_John
He's not dead!
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>>145639156
>list of bugs that we are aware and currently working on them
>no hunter skills at all
Does this mean hunter pets bugging out is working as intended? T-thanks IMC.
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>>145639156
Based john, hes basically the only IMC staff member worth looking forward to
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reminder that krivis' and friends of the krivis will be permanently blacklisted from my parties
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>>145638997
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>>145639404
Nigga, people don't build QS around grand cross and didel grand cross. They build them around RUNNING SHOT. Grand cross and diel grand cross just happen to boost running shot. That's all.
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>>145639156
>Priest
>Blessing: Unable to be applied to Sadhu in an Out of Body state.

Oh Sadhu
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>>145639404
>I can't read the post
I said don't build characters around an item, eg don't build characters around the animus. You just agreed with me, why are you telling me to reroll? Learn to read the post you're replying to faggot.
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>>145639156
>Gravity Pole
>2) Causing Client Crash
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So how do I play this game? Wait for english to reopen god knows when, or waste time on a Korean account only for English to reopen?
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>>145639458
Your explaination for why it was good was, "I'm rich therefore it is good".

People just told you why you're wrong and you're getting mad about it. You're the spergelord here. You're sperging out at people who told you you're wrong. What's so hard to understand nigger?

If you don't want people to tell you you're wrong then stfu and don't make statements fucking faggot.
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>>145639232
>costume collector
>went Ele instead of Thaum
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>>145640151
WHAT?

THEY'RE FINALLY FIXING GRAVITY PO
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So...

5600+ Accounts banned means there's room for new people, right?

Right?
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>>145640203
How much do you like maps, dungeons and enemy encounters?
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>>145639378
Bullshit. It makes keeping them off your heal tiles in dungeon/mission runs even more painful.
And it renders Tet Malak La worthless offensively, which was all it was good for, since the idea of getting zombies to stay somewhere or target something never fucking worked to begin with.

You know what else would've worked? A CALL BUTTON. FOR PRETTY MUCH ANY SUMMON/COMPANION THAT MIGHT GET STUCK IN SOME RETARDED WAY.


Also, they removed the slash property of basic zombie attacks, so no easy armor breaks, anymore. Why? Because fuck you, that's why. Clearly, Bokors were living on easy street by having that.

IMC didn't just fuck shit up worse while "fixing" something. They actively took the time to ruin bokors in some other way while they were at it.
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>>145640259
well they're aware of it, it doesn't mean they'll fix it, they might just give up on it
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>>145640203
Family share
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>>145640203
You can play the english version with family sharing
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>>145639458
>makes blanket statement
>gets told he's wrong
>gets mad when people tell him he's wrong
What's so hard to understand? If you're going to get mad when people tell you you're wrong, THEN DON'T FUCKING MAKE A STATEMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145640275
If this is going to lead into "Grind on Korean, and then grind all over again in English", if the game is fun enough why not right?
>>145640351
>>145640365
This sounds promising, what's that?
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>>145640231

>Your explaination for why it was good was, "I'm rich therefore it is good".

Making shit up now, are we?

>If people care about their Ardes, Karacha or Lolo then they obviously will care about a buff. It's free damage which comes with other benefits aswell.

Stay mad sperglord. :)
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https://steamdb.info/app/372000/graphs/

9.3k and falling. We are losing so many players each day. This is fucking abnormal. OPEN THE FUCKING GAME ALREADY IMC.
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>>145640408
because it's not fun
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>>145640408
Google steam family sharing.
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>>145640347
Gravity pole is already fixed though? I was in a dungeon instance with a kino3 and he was spamming gravity pole on every mob group. We killed them all fine and nothing happened.
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>>145640478
Battle Stillborn
Tree of Save Your Money
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>>145640404

I used to shitpost like this a decade ago, you still need some work bruhseph.
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>>145639594
Aw nice. More cryo buffs.
Actually I'm ok with this buff.
But for the love of god, nerf the other things of cryos for PvP.
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>>145640319
>a call button
>let's make a worthless skill that pet classes have to waste 1 point on instead of fix the issues that plague the pet AI in the first place
I'd rather have them fix the AI then force me to waste a point in the skill to WORKAROUND the issue.
Working around the issue is not fixing it.
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>>145640478
it's a fucking school night

DELETE THIS
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>>145640478
We're working on it as fast as we can. Sorry for the inconvenience.

-Staff John
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>>145640503
Does this require me already owning ToS on steam? Cause since I'm locked out I can't really download it.

What does it even do. As far as I'm understanding, I can host two accounts on one steam account, but they'd still be separate?
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>>145640607
>A universal F-key function for everyone = a skill

NO. FUCKING READ.
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>>145640319
Zombies should only be eating heal tiles if they get knocked into them by a boss, and against bosses zombies are only good as Damballa ammo anyway.
Also Zombies haven't had slash property attacks for at least since f2p, so I don't know what you're on.
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>>145640447
And thusly we come back to
>spending tons of money on a less than 1% damage boost
>it's good because I can spend money on it
>>145638510
>I throw money away all the time to charity and it's worth it.
Shifting goalposts now, are we?

Stay mad at your worthless 1% damage boost sperglord :^)
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>3 rows of dulla cards
AHAHAHAHAH kill me
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>>145640478
When Klaipeda is ashes you have my permission to die.

- Staff_John
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>>145640447
>It's free damage which comes with other benefits aswell.
>it's free damage, after you spent 74mil to max it out
That's not free at all you dumbshit nigger. Do you even understand the meaning of the word free?
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>>145640846

It's your choice whenever you want to level that attribute or not. It's obviously worth it but if you don't have the money then why bother?
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>>145640713
Find friend, get them to family share it.
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>>145639156
>nothing about wugushi
some day, and when they do i hope she comes back ;_;
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So when you family share this game, will you be able to remove the family share and then both accounts can play?
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>>145640756
How about you be more specific you fucker?
>a call button
>there are already skills ingame used for controlling pets like sorc's attack ground and hold or falconer's call
>if they were going to make something for pet control, it's obviously going to be another useless command skill
Be more specific if you're talking about a key you faggot.
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>>145640984
So long as they have already downloaded tos and made their shit
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>>145640830
1. With them Nothing-Personalling around now, it's not that simply anymore, and a nightmare for other clerics who don't know what the fuck they'll be showing up.

2. They were literally slash-damaging shit as rececently as monday before the maint. Using them for armor break was a thing for quite a while. Dunno how you could not notice.
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>>145640921

I assume that you're not retarded and totally caught on what I was trying to say with that statement. I'll distance myself from you just incase you are.
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>>145640929
Oh I see, allows me to grab the files and then brute force myself in.

Though I'm sure it works the other way around. I wouldn't trust an anon with my steam library.
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>>145640925
Hence, it's not free you fuckwit. Don't tell people it's FREE damage when you have to spend money on it.
>It's obviously worth it but if you don't have the money then why bother?
>meaning it's worth it, only if you have the money to spend it on
>I'm totally not saying its worth it because I'm rich
Please fucker, you can't even understand what you're saying. Are you just being retarded?
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>>145640478
to be honest im probably just going to quit as well

you guys are invested in the game really heavily and stuff but it's just not that fun you know

only thing I enjoy is grinding but I can't do that because solo questing is just so much more efficient and nobody parties up to grind in the ~100 range anyways.

I've rerolled three times and never gotten over the level 130 hump. Seems like I always try to pick a build which seems interesting or fun and it ends up being absolute garbage. The game doesn't promote creativity. Hell, it outright punishes not following the meta perfectly.

Like I'm sorry but there's just no redeeming quality to this game. Dungeons are designed for balanced parties but you're heavily incentivized to just throw the dice with your party, there's no item variety, there's no build variety, there's no reason to actually form bonds with other players.

and honestly, grinding in this game is way too difficult. either the mob density is too high and you're fucked if you don't have an AoE skill or the mob density is too low and you can't gain XP fast enough.

it's not even honestly that pretty. The art style is good but they don't do anything with it.
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Oracle:
- Counter Spell:
- You can remove debuffs on allies.
- Deployment type spells cannot be removed by Counter Spell.

- (New) Counter Spell: Enemy Target Attribute:
- When this attribute is active, it exclusively nullifies the enemy's magic.
ORACLES CONFIRMED to be KING OF CHOKEPOINTS
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>>145641016
but what if you're sharing to accounts that haven't downloaded it

Like I get it from a friend, I download and make an account and if it runs then we cancel family share, will I have the game in my library and past the restrictions?

Could you do that for several people? Or chain it possibly?
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>>145639583
Thanks for the uncensored version, much nicer to fap to.
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>>145641071
How about you learn to read what you write.
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>>145641128

>>145641071

Oh, so you are retarded.
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>>145641130
>130 hump
>When there is no hump at 130
We get it, you are just bad at the game.
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>>145640987
>How about you be more specific you fucker?

I was talking about a recent new function involving shit getting teleported to you automatically, when it damn well shouldn't be automatic.
It's referring to shit getting stuck on stupid stuff, so any kind of bullshit order for them to move would make no sense, so why the fuck would I suggest it.

You are retarded. Stop being retarded.
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>>145641156
Considering bots are using family sharing to create massive chains of new bots even with the restrictions against new players which are meant to fuck them over, I'd say yes.

>>145641120
read: friend
not: 4chan memer

Find one of your irl friends and get him to family share it
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>>145641246

If you are illiterate and can't use your brain for a second then don't expect me to simplify a sentence just so that your pre-pubescent brain understands it.
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>>145640478
>9.2k now

We hit a new low. it's 700 players lower.
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>>145641130
Still rerolling GOOD BUILDS and /tosg/ wont convince me otherwise. Making builds and seeing them work (or not work) is the joy I get from this game.
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>>145640913
Do you feel in charge?
-Hakkyu Kim
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>>145641252
You really don't understand what the words "worth" and "free" mean do you?
After I explained it to you multiple times. but keep getting mad everytime people tell you you're wrong.
You're wrong btw :^)
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>>145641130
>only thing I enjoy is grinding but I can't do that because solo questing is just so much more efficient and nobody parties up to grind in the ~100 range anyways.
>solo questing is more efficient

If you can create a 3 man or 4 man party of varying classes, grinding actually is much more efficient than questing when done correctly on grinding spots.

25-40 range > Tenet garden (pantos and roses)
40-55 range > Tenet chapel 2F (Egnomes)
65-80 range > Ghost rush at constructors chapel

These are some early game examples and these are the places used by power levelers to level thru up to 100 in just 15 hours(2 days) of play time.
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>>145636002

Phat toon funbags
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>>145641130
>130 hump
So you're just bad at the game than.
Theres people who ran costume collecting trash builds with 1 circle in each class who have gotten to 200+.

The issue isn't with the game, its with you.
You quite simply suck at it.

You can go from 1-212ish (provided you're doing this over a weeks time) without grinding at all.

Hell the "grind" wall people seem to think exists at 170-175, not 130. Even than its really easy to get past without grinding at all
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>>145641381
>he doesn't understand what the words "worth" and "free" mean
>tells other people they're illiterate
>devolves into calling people names now that he's BTFO
KEK americunts
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>>145641070
In my experience other clerics have never ever been able to place healtiles in a way so that my zombies don't eat them, since they haven't had to deal with having them around all the time. Nothing has changed for me in that area since the patch.

I have never seen the "Slash +50%" pop up on anything my zombies have attacked nor noticed any increase in damage on cloth armored targets, and I know it shows up for zombie attacks because Wheelchair Zombies have strike property attacks and it shows up for them. Seems more likely zombie attacks triggering the weakened defense debuff was a bug, unfortunately.
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>>145641261
The hump is me getting bored of playing at 130, you elitist retard. Everything just starts to feel like molasses. Enemies take too much time to kill, leveling is just hours upon hours of menial errand running. Every dungeon run is the same, a bunch of shitty builds which won't be any good until R7. And never any fucking Clerics, or 10 fucking Clerics. Do missions, get matched with people 15 levels above me, can't contribute, get oneshot. It's not fun. It's just not fucking fun. Head out to a grinding map. The mobs take too long to kill, give too little experience, the gimmicks aren't any good, the mob density is still too low.

I know you're just shitposting but seriously man
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>>145641442
>>145641543

You're obviously butthurt at the fact that you have tried to prove me wrong for over an hour now (and failed to) and even went as far to make shit up just to prove your point. Keep giving me (You)'s you autistic sperglord.
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>>145641632
Read
>>145641508
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>>145641537
>two people who immediately respond "you're just bad at the game"
>implying I mean a fucking experience hump
grow up man

this is just fucking sad
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>>145641261
>>145641537
>bad at the game
Come on man. There is nothing to be bad at.
You literally just get fucking bored, I know what he means. Most of my leveling time was just "I can't wait to get this over with" but it's the whole game I wanted to get over with.
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>>145641706
You're already proven wrong. i'm just trying to make you understand why cause you're too stupid to.
But if you can't handle being told you're wrong maybe you should STFU.
Stay mad son :^)
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No, seriously, how the fuck can you run out of quests at 130?

My newsest char I just rushed klaipeda side, didn't even touched orsha and I'm 150 now grinding for the first time, more for the money than anythng else just did the 130 3x, skipped 145 entirely.
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>>145641725
You're fucking retarded man
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>>145641725
I hear you and I had some fun doing Constructor's Chapel grinding, but that dries up and there's nothing that I've found to replace it.
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>>145641737
>doesn't specify
>randomly assumes everyone knows what hes talking about
Once again the issue is you, if you don't like the game and aren't enjoying than don't play it.
Others clearly do, its just you that don't.
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>>145641632
Wow, I thought you were baiting. You realize you're playing an MMO, right? MMOs are not designed for low attention-span people whose main motivation in playing games is the instant gratification they get. MMOs are for those with patience to achieve delayed gratification. Go find another game suitable for you. Or perhaps another hobby while you're at it.
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>>145641868
What level are you? I can help direct you to a local grinding spot.
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>>145641868
130 grinding = legwyn (both the dungeon and the mansion)

The secret is you get 300k per event if you have 5 man each with a starlight piece using it simultaneously.

I grinded there for 10 levels and 12mil~
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>>145641968
Ah, that secret tactic is finally revealed.

I found it in icbt2, but decided to give up on it since the event is nerfed.
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>>145641787

>i'm just trying to make you understand why

This bit right here made my night, It's adorable that you're going to these lengths but you're wrong. Maybe in your make-believe world you may think you are right but I guess being so BTFO has made you this delusional which is completely understandable. Good bye sperglord, tomorrow I have more E3 to cover. <3
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>>145641928
post all of them
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>>145641607
>I have never seen the "Slash +50%" pop up on anything my zombies have attacked nor noticed any increase in damage on cloth armored targets, and I know it shows up for zombie attacks because Wheelchair Zombies have strike property attacks and it shows up for them. Seems more likely zombie attacks triggering the weakened defense debuff was a bug, unfortunately.

I assure you, Slash +50% was happening. Maybe it's just been a while since the last time you dealt with high HP cloth enemies, for which it was better to just let them attack rather than park a train on them, and you forgot? I'm not accusing you of misinfoing, and I assure you I'm not either. Zombies were slashing prior to the monday night downtime.

Also, turn your goddamn wheelchair attribute off. Holy shit, man.
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>>145641889
Well, this. While this game is still shit, but getting tired at 130 is too early.
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Party quests are dumb as hell and IMC doesn't know how to design party content for their alleged MMO game!
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>>145642054
Nigga, everyone, EVERYONE who replied to you, told you you're wrong. You're the only one who thinks you're right.
And then you started crying and getting mad when people told you you're wrong.
But go ahead and run away, keep telling yourself you're right, I'm sure it'll help you sleep :^)
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>>145642050
Its a great tactic but you need a stable group for it.
Also only 250-300k per event is garbage when you can grind for an hour and get that same amount whilst getting exp too.

However that doesn't change the fact that the event is great 10+ mil funds and exp for level 130~.
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9.1k players.

Sub 9k soon?
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>>145641870
>if you don't like the game and aren't enjoying than don't play it.
Uh, yeah, that's what I was saying I was probably going to do, idiot.

>Others clearly do, its just you that don't.
>others clearly do
Yeah that's why the game hemorrhaged 30% of its playerbase last week alone

>>145641889
I love that as soon as you hate any particular MMO, all the fanboys just come out of the woodwork and assume you don't like any MMOs.

Wake up, man. I'm the guy who actively searched for grinding spots instead of the faster, more varied quest grind. I'm not a fucking stranger to hard work or delayed gratification. I just don't see any fucking gratification in store for me.

And pro tip: If your game starts to become work, it's not a game any more.
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>>145642054
>gets told by whole thread he's wrong
>n-no y-you're btfo
>I-I'm still r-right
>y-you're delusion
>g-good b-bye
Textbook definition of autism.
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>>145642298
No the reason the game hemorrhaged 30% of its playerbase last week alone is due to not allowing new players in.
All mmos bleed players however this mmo isn't allowing new players.
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>>145641889
You know it's possible for an MMO to be fun on the way to level cap, right? Anon's just not enjoying the game and I don't really blame him. It tries to appeal to too many different audiences at once.
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>>145641870
>Others clearly do

uhmmm
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>>145642298
>doesn't like the game yet constantly shitposting about it
wew lad, tsundere much?
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>>145642390
playerbase was falling even before the restriction
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>>145642298
I'm pretty sure everyone who called you a shitter here do agree that this MMO is a shit game.

Getting bored at 130 is on another level though.
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>>145641968
>>145642050
That secret tactic was all over the forums since last year. It wasn't a secret at all, that's why it got nerfed.
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>>145642462
so wait you can only complain about something if you like it?
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>>145642390
Not him but the game is losing players at a record rate.
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>>145642089
1-8 > That leafbug area at klaipeda
10-16 > That cupacabra popolion area
16-20 > Red Kepa Jukopos area
20-25 > That Puraragi area with that thinking man's quest
25-40 range > Tenet garden (pantos and roses)
40-55 range > Tenet chapel 2F (Egnomes)
65-80 range > Ghost rush at constructors chapel
80-90 range > The white demon area at orsha with big axes and magic and shiz. Only do this with a party
90-100 > Sicarius Drake Dick area at the ferret wheel
100-110>No Idea
110-120>No Idea
130-140>Dungeon and legwyn event
140-155>Demon Dick
155-170>Demon Dick 2 with branches
170-200> You should've saved some cards (No idea)
210-226> Alemeth TRUFFLES grind
226-254> Evacuation area grind
254-266> Storage grind
266-280> Maven Alley Grind


Do note grynas event can also be done for grind at 250-260 as a replacement grind.
Many more maps are also not taken advantaged of.

Hopefully some other anons chip in.
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Shield Bash: CON not changing after getting hit by Rodelero's 'Shield Bash'.

Lolipan has now become terrifying.
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>>145642298
>I just don't see any fucking gratification in store for me
Which is what precisely my point is in my post. Find another game suitable for you. This game clearly isn't. We've had waves upon waves of doomposters and we don't need another whiner like you in the thread.
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>>145642506
I didn't realize that.
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>>145642506
Cool. So it's intended to be nerfed for lonely kiritos but still extremely good for coordinated party's.

For once I am impressed of IMC.
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>>145642390
not allowing new players in has nothing to do with 30% of the playerbase straight up quitting

people didn't quit because "waaah you aren't letting other people in"
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>>145641889
>>145642420
MMOs used to be about the journey, not the destination. Until wow came out and pushed it's endgame meta shit. Now every single mmo is a shitty themepark quest hub about the endgame.

People said wow would kill mmos but no one believed them. Now all we have are wowlike mmos.
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>>145639775
I've found that if your pet gets stuck, using either hounding or pointing or both will reset your pet's AI. Costs a fuckton of SP though.
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>>145642545
Rodeleros are now anti CON build as well.
Rodeleros are borderline OP now.

Where's my rogue buffs!?
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>>145642587
It's nerfed for everyone mate, even coordinated party's.

>>145642598
This. People are quitting cause itos isn't getting content at all and the devs are handling the game and PR horribly.
Look at staff max. Draconian perma banning for worthless shit like large text, while known bots and RMTers get a temp 30 day ban WITH ability to appeal the game and till they can do it all again.
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>>145642717
>People are quitting cause itos isn't getting content at all and the devs are handling the game and PR horribly.
people are quitting because the game sucks, anon. they aren't having fun. the game isn't designed in a way that promotes fun.

i agree that the devs are handling the game horribly. They've been doing so for the 6+ years it was in development.
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>>145642607
Don't get me wrong, the themepark quest thing turned me off this game during open beta, and I had no plans of touching this game after that. It was only when my friends suggested we play this because muh nostalgia goggles. In the end, only a few still remain. And I still have you guys, so that's something.
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>>145642627
That's still not a fix, it's a workaround. It just proves they either don't acknowledge it as an issue or probably don't know how to fix it at all.

I didn't take pointing though, I need some detailed information about how it works and what effects it has when used with other skills.

If you got the time, please do give an indepth description of the workings of pointing.
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>>145642717
Eh, coordinated party's still get 5x more than usual though so it's ok. So that's still 300k per party member per channel.
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>>145642138
Here's an old screenshot of a zombie hitting a jukopus, which tosgbase lists as cloth armor. If slash bonus was happening, it wasn't showing it, unless tosgbase is wrong, but I hold by never seeing it appear on anything and I don't use Bwa Kayiman for damage, I've always just let them attack on their own.
>Also, turn your goddamn wheelchair attribute off. Holy shit, man.
I'm never giving up my cute zombie rollers!
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>>145642607
It's tragic. This game is the longest, dryest theme park I've ever seen.

I'm certain that developers just don't realize that players would rather have polished game mechanics and fun, social gameplay than solo fetch quest grinds with no real purpose. They just think "people will get bored of that too quickly. We have to engage them!"

when all of the fun of MMOs is the fucking MULTIPLAYER PART
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>>145642545
>We all mocked lolipan's shitty builds
>IMC makes them terrifying
>IMC names the best gear Lolipantsu gear

Coincidence?
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>>145642607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvK8fua6O64
Everyone wondering what went wrong with MMOs should watch this.
Especially IMC
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>>145643029
>lolipantsu gear
Somebody post the image already.
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stuck grinding at level 76 soul linker x cryomancer
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>>145643117
>grinding so early
So you're one of those fags who repeatedly misses quests and doesn't do orsha side huh?
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>>145643117
>level 76
>grinding

everytime
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>>145642983
Pretty sure IMC don't even play their own game, or they would at least understand why it is failing already.
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>>145642983
Cause the modern day mmo consumer is a wow player. Can't blame them for catering to where the money comes from.
Everything is wrong about mmos these days, but I can't stop playing because I love the visual style.
We're all doomed to suffer until the games goes under ;_;
Looks like it might be soon though.
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>>145643094
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>>145643035
Hate the voice
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>>145643035
Based MrBtongue. 10 years since last gaming vid upload tho.
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IMC FUCKED UP BIG TIME

If you view someone's lodge, you can log into their character. Say goodbye to your shit, Lolipan.
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>>145643505
Why is shortcut firm the best hairstyle? Why is it so sexy?
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>>145643718
WHAT ARE YOU SERIOUS? POST VIDEO.
If they're playing halfway can you still log into that character or only other characters?
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>>145643471
>Cause the modern day mmo consumer is a wow player.
No, this is wrong. This idea that all the average MMO consumer wants is a casualized themepark is what leads to so many failed abortions over a decade.
This way of thinking is why Tree of Savior is shriveling up so fast.

Fuck it is what has led to WoW ITSELF'S DRASTIC DECLINE IN POPULATION. While WoW is a themepark, in its early years it did not forget that it was a themepark MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER GAME. Only after the merger with Activision did it start turning into the abomination /v/ bitches about daily and what all other companies try to copy today.

This "We need to cater to the WoW audience!" is the thinking of soulless corporate scumfucks.
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>>145643891
Thats exactly what I said anon. It's why all mmos are trash now.
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>>145640239
Nig, ele costume is pretty high class.
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>>145643947
No, you said the modern day MMO consumer is a WoW player.
What I assume you mean by this is that the only audience for MMOs left is by majority a crowd who only wants mindless, singleplayer theme park, and the only way to make money is to cater to this crowd.

What I argue is that it's not, the audience for a true sandboxy MMO is out there, and it's fucking huge, but the opposite way of thinking is what kills every game.
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>>145644213
>the audience for a true sandboxy MMO is out there
Yes there are, but we are the minority. The modern day mmo consumer IS a wow player. It brought in all the casual dudebros. and wow was a huge success because of it, that's why everyone now wants to copy them.
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>>145644213
So basically you want eve?
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>>145644332
Eve is a spreadsheet calculator though.
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Why is this allowed
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>>145644332
>no class, only skills
>get costume if you completed centain skills
>rather than real time training you level up skills by spending exp
mite b cool
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>>145644497
It's ok I got free TP from buying silver tokens. Some sucker paid for my free haircuts.
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>>145644691
>tfw I could buy them all due to this, but won't because of the bullshit pricing

I... I... still... have... principles... I SWEAR.
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Dropped in Mage Tower off a white mob. What is it?
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>>145644858
Don't you want to look cute anon? Just give in, you won't be able to resist anyways.
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>>145644875
You will quit ToS after eating it. Don't do it.
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>>145644858
Save for costumes nigga.
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>>145639775
>>145642627
>be hunter C3
>have 15 points saved up for the day when they make coursing a DoT like snatching that is usable on bosses
I-It's coming soon right guys?
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>nicknaming every bug

CUTE
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>>145632950
not a timed buff. doesnt work with melstis
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>>145644989
Not him but all the premium costumes are shit anyways, and I like my class costumes more.
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>>145645035
>hunter c3
The absolute madman.
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>>145644319
We're not the minority. This is what I want to scream at any would-be MMO developers: stop assuming that because WoW was successful, every MMO needs to copy it. Yes, it attracted a huge amount of people. It also lost a horrendous shitload as the years went on and it got more and more dumbed down, ironically with the intention to appeal to a larger audience.

Think of why something like Nostalrius got so popular.

>>145644332
Getting there, but alas I don't have any craving for space fighting.
Black Desert really got my hopes up because early on they were talking about having a wilderness full of challenging PvE content, player killing, towns which would have their own economies, all this shit rife with opportunity for player drama and escapades. Unfortunately most of that was scrapped for the same "The MMO audience is composed solely of dudebros" mindset.
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>>145645107
he meant upcoming costumes, they hinted they're coming next maint
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>>145644319
The minority of what? Your precious casuals are busy with MOBAs and mobile games. WoW got its growth before it switched to modern casualization, and went into decline when that happened. It's success relied on the incredibly famous franchise, the big name developer, the enormous marketing budget, the fancy AAA polish, and the army of customer support staff. A small company without those things will never get that audience.
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Grynas event up.
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>>145645354
Thanks Dmn/Karga.
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>>145645121
Growling is really nice to carry shitters with when you end up in a party without a tank or cleric.
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>>145645127
>>145645346
If we're not the minority then why aren't we being catered to? businesses appeal to the masses, that's how they make money.

>>145645191
It's all going to be ugly outdated shit anyways.
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>>145645402
Not both but you're welcome.
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Lolipan is an FAL (failure at life)
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>>145645127
>stop assuming that because WoW was successful, every MMO needs to copy it
It's not an assumption, it's fact based on the mmos we're getting. They ARE copying wow, that's why tos ended up as a shitty themepark mmo.
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>>145642829
Here are a few things I've observed. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the correct behavior. Apologies for the shit quality on the webm.

Both Pointing and Hounding can be in effect at the same time. I haven't observed any cloaked people while using both so I can't determine what the behavior happens to be (e.g., if hounding takes precedence over pointing or vice versa).

Pointing puts your pet in a very aggressive state. Your pet can walk off the screen to tag a monster with pointing. The closest similarity I can find would be those summonable NPC shaman dolls in some quests that have a very large range.

If it's too far, it will cancel the pointing behavior after it tags a mob and run back to you. After it gets within the minimum distance to be considered "nearby," it will select another target (previously tagged mob included). Might be a good use for mobbing as I've used this in the 90 dungeon to pull large crowds instead of an uncooperative cata.

The pointing effect lasts 3 seconds and the only interaction I've seen is what's on the tooltip, but any others can be found out with time.
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>>145645770
>Koenig helping theorycraft and test things
Well she['s not a dumb bimbo afterall!
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>>145645591
>If we're not the minority then why aren't we being catered to
Because of this cancerous mindset. There were other popular MMOs before WoW. But you google "popular MMO" and what comes up? Fucking WoW and XIV. The safest bet, in a developer and investor's mind, is to copy them.

They are not appealing to the masses, and this is why they fail. They release, they get picked up by people sick of WoW who quickly find the game is the same shit as current-day WoW but riddled with technical problems and without the AAA resources backing it up.

>>145645670
Holy god I know my dude, reread that entire sentence
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>>145645942
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111aaaf.15213f4751667585.1f213a43516a75.14253551

Full INT for maximum damage. The main purpose for this build is to burst down enemy in guild war with magic missle and dark theurge, while still being able to use reversi on the enemy's magic circle.

It's also useful as a support due to having a thauma 3.
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>>145645591
Why wasn't the WoW audience being catered to before WoW was made? Why are so many MMOs doing poorly if all these businesses have it all figured out? Where are the millions of players IMC should've attracted by appealing to the masses?
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>>145645770
I think I'm not liking the look of that at all. I think it'll be faster if I just oblique spam everything.

but thanks for spending time on it. You're more than just monk tiddies, other people should treat you better ;_;

I'm still fapping off to your tiddies though.
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How much does fighter blood sell for nowadays?
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>>145639156
>ADDTION: The following issue is not a bug but in fact an intended effect.
>Priest
>Blessing: Unable to be applied to Sadhu in an Out of Body state.
This "ADDTION" made me laugh out loud.
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>>145646028
Remove most points on Reflect shield, it's kind of bad at the moment and will just take up a buff slot at parties, put it in surespell.
Thaum skillpoints are pretty good.
No idea about Warlock so can't give advice.
Magic missile till 220. But if you're fine with that, sure. Get a leveling friend.
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>>145646129
>doesn't post server
>doesn't check market
anon pls
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>>145646037
Because there was no wow audience before wow. Wow brought in all the non mmo players.
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>>145646139
The main purpose of reflect shield is to prevent staggering in pvp, which prevent you from running up to enemy with dark theurge and Allahu Akhbar.

Surespell is kind of useless in this build because there isn't really any skill with cast time. I just took it for futureproof.

This build will require alot of Daino Scroll, luckily I have a pardoner that can supply that. Also, I'm suggesting this build to my guild mate, so I can actually power level him with my elememe if needed.

Partying shouldn't be an issue because thau 3 is a great support with double exp and increased atk/matk.
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>>145646264
Yeah, so there is no way to recapture the WoW audience. The WoW audience played WoW, not MMOs.

Hell, half of them probably stopped playing just because they got jobs and lives and families and shit and couldn't keep playing. They didn't move to other MMOs, they just left the fucking MMO market.
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>Momohime's still alive and kicking
Fucking incompetent Bot Classifier.
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>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/last-straw-and-probably-a-goodbye/298158/69

Staff_MAX confirmed for bot.
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>>145646264
Really, did Blizzard grow them in test tubes or import them from an alien civilization in outer space? You're telling me those millions of people weren't alive on Earth until WoW was made?
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>>145646417
>all those whiteknights
I bet they're bots too, there's just no way people can be this stupid.
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>>145646545
No, they just never played mmos. I didn't say wow gave birth to these players. Learn to read man.
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>>145646417
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>>145646689
>that unstoppable fall to 0k
All servers merged into one when?
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>>145646689
>lost the entire f2p audience in one month
>numbers were going down even when they were letting people play
jesus christ

Is the only thing keeping people playing this all the cash they had to spend on Founders Packs and shit?
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>>145646751
Soon in kToS. Dunno about iToS.
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I'm lvl 213, the card calc says I can reach 222. Do I card up to 222 or do I grind?
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>>145646825
ALEMETH
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>>145646787
Game will survive atleast until this winter
But by the start of 2017 i don't thing /tosg/ will be a thing anymore on /vg/
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>>145646873
Prepare yourself. Winter is coming.
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>>145646825
EAT YOUR TRUFFLES!
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>>145646787
Naw, It's the RO visual nostalgia. The visuals truly are carrying the game. It's a cute style that no other mmo currently has and is the only thing still keeping the game afloat.
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Lewd outfits will save tos.
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Do you think anyone would salvage this game by developing private server?
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>>145647016
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>>145647048
They can't take it far when the game's a mess. Not until they release Rank 10 with all the intended classes.
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>>145646624
Learn to read. That was sarcasm, you fucking moron. You're contradicting yourself and failing to address the fact that most of these games are flops. Saying wow brought them in is admitting there was a huge untapped opportunity, which proves your argument about businesses wrong.
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>>145647067
iTOS W H E N
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>>145646825
Grind. Don't skip alemeth or you probably will roll an alt soon.

You can skip evac though.
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>>145646848
>>145646962
>>145647165
Okay, until what level do I grind there?
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>>145646417
I don't know what's worse, dev's not reading and responding to feedback
Or dev's reading it, ignoring it and responding in a generic automated type way that basically says they don't give a fuck
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>>145647093
Original RO2 was dead during its beta, yet there were kind of "working" private server for a while.
With enough attention I'm sure some people will start doing the needful regardless of how the product is like.
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>>145647242
210-230
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/imc-problems-naming-d-laugh-so-hard/298296/12
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>>145647149
Tuesday! For sure this time!
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>>145647262
Community managers aren't devs. That being said, the introduction of the weekly Q&As and the known issues list are a step in the right direction. Really small steps though. We'll see if they can turn this boat around in time or not. They really should've waited until the 19th.
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>>145647357
>Staff john
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>>145647427
>We'll see if they can turn this boat around in time or not
This boat has fucking run aground and they're tearing it apart to make a new shitty raft.
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>>145646689
It's clear IMC doesn't want more than 1-2k players per server
It could work if there was something to keep even a small playerbase in the game.
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>>145647354
It's also not that bad if you card somewhere just to reach 225 (Rank 7)
You'll end up grinding after truffles anyway, it's just that hitting rank 7 can make it more fun for you, or give you more motivation
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>>145647067
If there's one thing they did right, it's all the butts and tiddies in this game. Goddamn.
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>>145647123
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
The games flop because dudebros don't hang around long enough to play mmos.
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>>145647354
>>145647560
Is 8.6m/hour exp slow at truffles? I'm going solo right now since there's no recruiting parties.
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>>145647650
Then it's futile to make an MMO for dudebros unless you have a marketing machine like Blizzard's.
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>>145647721
No, that's better than a ton of bad parties end up with. I'll assume you're an Elementalist or one of the archer builds. You've got more demand than I had on my cleric (since every group only wants a single one, and on my server there are more clerics than there are Peltasta swordsmen or AoE DPS)
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>>145647721
I'll grind with you if you're on klai
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>>145641508
Questing solo does the same thing, I've literally taken two characters up to lvl 90 in about 4 days, not playing non stop.

It's easy to get to level 50 within 10 hours of the game, quest til reset dungeon to 64~ dungeon again til 69~ then card all the way til 90 and then dungeon til arde. I'm always lvl75 by ramtis this way to use arde and lvl79 for r4 by the time I've fought bear bracelet and then I have enough cards to go to 90 straight away.

Of course I use blessing/sac and have decent hats but even so it's not that hard, even faster if you roll sword or archer.
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>>145647650
They flop because the games fucking suck and are catered to WoW's (CURRENT) audience, using WoW as some god-template.

That brings us back to the original point of the games being catered to a supposed mass audience of dudebros, where all the success, according to you and modern developers, supposedly is. That makes no goddamn sense given the 99% failure rate.

The anon you're arguing with has brought up some good points that you've failed to address.
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>>145647856
Thanks for the tip, I'm an elememe.

>>145647924
Sure, I'd love some company. Look for me at Fedi ch1 accessory merchant after 5 minutes.
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>>145647721
You can get similar rate at corpse flower too if you are an elememe. I did that back in my alemeth grind because truffle is always filled.
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Guys hows the level 200 dungeon exp?
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>>145648137
Nvm I think reading this >>145647856
Just reminded me how sperg lord the community at large is
I just want a comfy grind with a cutie or two and not have to worry about maximum efficiency and class compositions.
I'll probably just card to R7 and roll an alt, but have fun at truffles.
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>>145648329
Elememe starts to have fun at 250++
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>>145648329
You could get groups without needing to worry too much about their requirements. I just mean that some would prefer certain compositions for exp per hour, but there are still ones that form from whoever is around at the time. You can also grind truffles and evac with 1-3 people
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>>145647048
http://www.gtop100.com/topsites/tree-of-savior
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>>145648329
I just wanted a friend.
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>>145647924
You mean leech off you
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[GM] DURIAN talks a big game.
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I appreciate any Archer who does not enable the Swift Step share attribute
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>>145648953
You'd be amazed how many of them think the crit rate gets shared. I've had dozens of dungeon runs where Swordies or other Archers begged me to use Swift Step and got mad when they found out I didn't even have the attribute.
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>>145648551
The elementalist fun factor kept moving goalposts.
Last time it was reaching EleC3.
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>>145649012
Doesn't it literally do nothing for them unless they themselves are an archer? I guess it gives evasion or something
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Anyone else having an issue where they can't logout/go to character select?
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>>145649104
It gives evasion, but it's only good for dex users since it's a % based off your own dex. If you have none, it's worthless.
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>>145649014
At 250++ you have maxed dark theurge and decent level in invocation. Also, you have enough damage to 1 shot most mobs.
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STAT RESET POTION FUCKING WHEN?
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>>145649314
The past.
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GO AND COMPLAIN.
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>>145649314
I'm glad I don't need one yet. I haven't made a mistake on my stats on either character so far.
I wish we could earn free character slots through events every now and then, though
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I'm going for worldboss/gvg support.
Should I go with this Cleric 2/Priest 3/Oracle/Kabbalist: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4122218f.1a213a435561.13213f4551659aa5.21314155617195.153545

Or replace:
Cleric 2 with chaplain
Priest 3 with Diev 3
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>>145648953
I'm happy that you apprentice me anon.
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>>145649508
you're a ranger3 so actually kill yourself
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>>145649508
You're a wonderful person, please never turn on the attribute

>>145649561
There is no bullying in this territory
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>>145649314
>>145649439
>>145649483
Honestly, I don't see why they don't have it in the TP shop along with the skill reset potion. people would be able to properly test stats in practical applications instead of having to resort to theory and out of practice calculations.
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>>145639156
>Thaumaturge
>Transpose: Losing HP when using Thaumaturge's skill 'Transpose' again while its effect from the previous casting is on.

Noone talking about this? This is huge.
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>>145649601
I agree, it is a waste that they haven't added it to the shop. I assume it's to stop people having an easy ride to whatever level through padding certain stats then just respeccing later when their build allows for it? At the same time, skill reset potions do that same thing, so that wouldn't be a good excuse. I'm just glad I'm not in the situation where I'd personally want one right now. I totally expect to fuck up a future character and want one, though
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>>145649601
cause they're fucking incompetent rank resets are too difficult for them
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>>145649665
does it means full int thaum will be viable ?
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>>145649754
the point of cash shops though is for convenience
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>>145649665
>>145649771
I'll talk about it when my STR-based melee Thaum is viable.
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>>145626441
It was always a /vg/ guild.
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>>145650000
Its NOT viable
how many times must this be said?

No matter what weapon you use,your basic attack is a magic bolt you shitter
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>>145649764
I can understand not having rank resets, but stat potions are no different from skill potions.
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>>145649754
Skill resets don't allow that much cheesing for most classes since the best skills will usually be the best skills all the way. The biggest difference is skills can get nerfed and buffed very often.
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>>145650085
It's viable if you have the staff which converts your matk into damage
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>>145629035
>"your"
Did you write your name on it? No? Then fuck off, cakeboy.
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>>145650130
it's the same shit
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>>145650085
My point exactly. It's meant for swords/clubs to be melee-based when used by Wiz and actually deal physical damage. Otherwise there is no point for wiz to be able to utilize swords/clubs barring donkey-dick.
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Is there anything specific spot on the alemeth map that is good for corpse flowers, I just realized as an archer I could grind on these things all day and not even take damage.
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>>145650301
Run around the map and switch channels. Usually easy to make out where the most stuff spawns.
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>>145650301
They usually have a ton in the southwest (if memory serves correctly)
They're really good for clerics, too, because they get shredded by Holy damage
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I really dont understand how people can get so butthurt about an instant message software.
Like seriously, why? Please explain to me.
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>>145650394
It's fucking shit with the hit limit and cooldown of every Cleric skills.
Dievs can probably rack some nice EXP though.
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>>145650526
>>>/discoreddit/
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>>145650526
Shitposting is more fun than playing game.
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Reminder to add TakeItEasy and remove FOE to next thread's OP.
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>>145650647
>>>>/discoreddit/
>disco reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/disco
My spoon-feeding quota is done for the night.
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>>145650526
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>>145445232
>>145445232
>>145445232
>>145445232
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>>145650872
>>145650872
>>145650872
>>145650872
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>>145650629
Oh, that's true. I'm talking mostly as a Chapmeme, honestly. Aspergillum and Cure makes Corpse Flowers really quick compared to every other 90k+ HP mob. Like the damage still drops off a ton compared to 127 up to Lepusbunnies, but Corpse Flowers are really quick compared to a lot of enemies around their level range. They take about as long to kill as Blue Spion Archers, which have like half their HP.
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