/edg/ Elite Dads General

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>>145542081

>>145542081
Sad bump

You fuckers let it die last time. We were doing so great, already 300 posts!

even the forum granddad is complaining about the current state of the game

i can feel the last vestige of hope being drained from my soul

All the fucking effort on OP image and you fags let the thread die while I was sleeping. Good job

>>145544029
well I was sleeping too

>>145543364
if this one dies before reaching 200, dont make new one

The evolution of E:D compared to the development of EVE Online shows how stark can be the contrast between a game that haves 13 years on its back and a game that's just on its second year.

E:D is already going to places forever banned from EVE, like multiple pilots in a ship... and all EVE has got to offer it's stuff barely relevant nor interesting to "the 85%".

>>145543671
Who is the forum granddad?
Also, this could mean that ftroop actually tries to make some changes in the game!
That is wishful thinking, obviously.

>>145544029
>>145544160
IFF we manage to live long enough should we have a poll in the next OP on what timezones people are from so we know when to shitpost the most to keep the thread alive during downtime?

E:D is worse than space mmo game in android

I can't be bothered to search any of the Frontier related forums. Anything get announced at E3?

So, what is the most prestigious ship to fly in according to /edg/?

Also, why the fuck aren't you guys doing biowaste long range hauling in Sothis/Ceos? That shit plays 30-40t a run with about 300t cargo space in a D-rated tradeconda. No interdictions. This shit is the next Robigo until Ftroop nerfs it.

>>145546286
What level of friendship do you have to be at? Cordial, or higher?

>>145546127
Other than the new midlevel Thrustmaster Hotas partnership, nope.
I keep looking for them, will report here.

>>145546286
Depends on the circles you are in.
Some people consider the Corvette and Cutter to be the apex of grindtolerance and dedication to the game. But go-to ship here is naturally the Orca. The slim hull, the massive mass and formidable speed make it the absolute top in dadbothering.

How much profit are we talking about? Is it better than afk-turreting merits for the next 4 weeks?

>>145546589
I think he meant 30-40 million per run, and a run takes around 20-30 minutes each so 60mil-ish per hour average

>>145546924
Oh. That definitely sparks my interest. I need my Elite trade rank.

Thanks anon.

>>145547042
Also some anon's have been saying that the devs are going on a holiday after E3, so hopefully we can enjoy a week+ of doing it.

>>145546589
I was disappointed that Frontier were sponsor at the shitty PC Gamer show but nothing was said about E3. Dawn of War 3 also disappointed me, looks like a mobile game and looks like it plays like one too.

>>145547194
ANOTHER holiday? You've got to be kidding me

>>145547304
Kind of a good thing anon, they're not going to patch shit we like, aka Sothis, and lets face it they're not going to add anything new or wondrous let alone patch something that needs patching.

>>145546371
Cordial, but Friendly is required.
This is easily reached. Just buy a Cobra at the station and do a shit ton of Data haulage missions, you'll reach friendly with all factions in no-time. Just haul data from ceos to sothis and back again.

>>145547042
>>145546924
He is correct 30-40 million profit in less than an hour. Most missions are dropped off at the same station, so you need to make less stops than Robigo. Count that in with NO interdictions and it takes even less time. It's not smuggling either so scans won't cause you to fail missions.

It requires a low-budget ship with preferrably 300t cargo cap and a decent jump range. A D-rated conda with A-rated FSD is ideal, but other and smaller ships will work as well.

Go to Ceos/Sothis, haul data for the factions until you're friendly, and then stack missions requiring you to haul biowaste for 3-6m per 50 tonnes of cargo.

It's less effort than Robigo. Do it while it lasts.

How much money is enough money?

Taking the possibility that ED will get bigger more expensive ships in future in to account

>>145550360
10b will last you a year if the game still alive

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This needs to be a meme

>>145551095
i-is that the face of vision?

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>>145551358
YES

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>>145549916
Does it not work if you're allied? I just keep getting this crap.

>>145551925
Relog and go from Newholm to that Ceos station.

If after that still nothing, Ftroop has nerfed it, which is odd. I did two runs stacked with fat missions yesterday.

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Never bothered with powerplay I don't know all mechanics.
So now I have this many merits and I wanted to go out exploring, which might take a fuking while since I plan to play only few hours a day. And these neet payouts supposed to last me weeks. Does anyone know if I don't collect money will thaey carry over in to next week and stack on each other?

>>145552097
That did the trick, thanks anon. Getting a bit unlucky though, getting lots of 100+ cargo for 5 mil.

>>145552349
enjoy your 50% decay

>>145552349
50% decay mean it will last for 3 weeks

>>145545707

>E:D is already going to places forever banned from EVE, like multiple pilots in a ship

I'm not holding my breath. With how FD has handled Elite's "evolution," there's nothing to say that it won't be another terrible tacked on update that only allows you to control one single turret on a friend's ship. It will be alright if you have a friend at best and horribly bugged and gamebreaking at worst. I have no idea why you even decided to bring that feature up in the first place. EVE would never have multipilot ships because it just wouldn't work with how the game is designed. I can argue that it wouldn't work with Elite either, atleast it wouldn't be enough to call it a full on major feature.

There's no problem with E:D and EVE doing things differently. They're two completely different games and I hate comparing them just from how different they are. Elite has an absolute awful design history, and that severely hinders my enjoyment of the game.

>>145552471
Have patience, anon. Finding the right missions takes a fair chunk of time. But it pays out.

We seem to live, for now.

>>145553118
I can count. What I'm asking is that if I can collect money months later or will they disappear.
Whatever it's not worth asking anything here unless it's meme related. I'll get more honest and better answer from dads if I make up a story. They work really hard for that rep

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This game is a fucking joke.

>>145552349
Get 80k and defect to the Asian guy with 200% exploration profits. Then turn in minor exploration data and WEW LAD exploration Elite.

You can collect it later at least if you stay pledged.

>>145554274
You're a fucking genius my man

>>>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/265277-Serverside-update-and-upcoming-point-update

top kek

>>145554274
Don't you need at least a good grind level with LYR for those profits?

You need 161,000,000 profits from exploring in order to become Elite.

>>145554404
>I’d personally just like to thank the development team. They’ve worked incredibly hard over the recent week’s and are always looking at and reviewing the feedback from the community. There will be an additional point update coming which will also include a number of feedback, fixes and changes and we’ll have some more news on that soon.
L U L

>>145554346
Just think of me when jerking off to blue haired bitch

>>145554480
You keep 50% of your merit when you defect. That would leave you with 40k and enough time to do exploring for a couple of weeks before turning in the data.

>>145554545
Just to confirm.
If you get 70k for scanning neuron stars that means if I have detailed scanner it will give me 140k and with 200% payout bonus I'll get 280k?

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>>145554545
tfw 0 merits

>>145554663
Technically yes, except surface scanner only grants 30% increase in payout. So 70k x 1.3 = 91k * 2 = 182k. Still, reasonably higher profit.

>>145554780
See >>145176614
Infinite merit.
Also a good tip for afk turreting: 32-bit mode, lowest graphical settings and running in a stamp sized window. Won't crash or require system resources if doing something on the side.

>>145554053
The salary will stay forever if I remembered correctly

>>145554968
So essentially I can just leave it be and come back in 4 weeks for a massive 200mil salary? Sweet.

>>145554968
No it won't, don't spread disinfo

>>145554404
Our development team worked so hard so we can change 4 integer values in the game

amazing frontier

>>145555760
>Because of our incompetence and total negligence of common sense and rational software development practises our codebase is a Frankenstein monster that lives without us actually knowing how and why. Changing anything is a serious feat and uphill struggle.
>Sincerely Ftroop - Quality game design guaranteed

Also, it's something taken that they've been on a three week holiday prior.

>>145554404

I don't know what's worse, that it took them this long to adjust those numbers, or that there are people in that thread kissing the CM's ass.

>>145556037
game companies should avoid programmers who worked at frontier before

to think I once considered to apply for a programmer position

>>145556267
Programmer is a disposable being in a company

>>145554404

Literally a bandaid fix. As if it still won't be a problem when people hit the 1,000 materials limit.

This doesn't change the fact that you have to play RNG roulette to get some materials. This doesn't change that you have to drive on boring planet landscapes for hours to hopefully find what you're looking for. This doesn't change the fact that hauling rares for an engineer requirement is fucking stupid and whoever thought of it needs to be fired.

It legitimately makes me mad that they still can make money off of so many retards that buy this shit.

>>145556267
At Frontier?
I would never, ever work for a game company. Even a smaller one. I love games sure and occasionally even work on my own project that nobody will ever see because it is my hobby. But knowing the conditions that game programmers have to endure, I rather take the ones of a regular software company.

>>145556187
We've been through this a thousand times and seen that happen so much that I've become so jaded that I don't even care.

>>145556614
I wouldn't go that far based on my experience working for software companies. Currently in a fairly small employeewise but rather significant otherwise and we have a lot of freedom and trust based on us. And the senior guys here are pretty irreplaceable.

>>145556614
if you are developing utility stuff or new features yes

but if you are part of the team who designed the core components not very logical. firing a guy like that would like throwing the chief engineer of a ship out of the window during a storm. Well considering the amateur actions of the fdev they might have done that. because they have a custom engine that runs the elite

>>145556763
I work at a small regular company
its shit. and it would be worse if it was a big company
enjoy working on databases and retarded features that customers ask and change every fucking week

If you can start your won company

Quick someone I need to know exact mount of hours left until the cycle reset. I can't in to time zones

>>145557178
A bit over 17 hours.

So, would an A-rated Vulture with dual fixed C3 Multi's be viable? I fucking love C3 en C4 multicannons.

>>145557392
Not really. Not discounting that it wouldn't be fun, it's just not efficient enough in taking down NPCs with ten million shield cells.

>>145557392

Vultures aren't good enough anymore really.

>>145557392
Still viable in High RES

I've realised surface base missions is the closest this game has to fun and engaging gameplay. You have to scout the base out, find the terminal/generator controlling the gate/shield for large bases, get to the objective and then destroy/scan it and then fight your way out. On a high security base its even more interesting.

Yet they put no resources into making the actual mechanics fun of how it works good, the SRV is awful, you can't fight off Goliaths, turrets respawn far too quick, most data towers do nothing and the security ships can't be fought off.

Horizons should have been entirely focused on making the surface game great.

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>>145558941
The enemy defences respawn way too quickly and high security bases are required to be done with a friend. But that could be cool if I had friends who actually bought into this piece of fucking shit.

I agree. The surface has potential. Imagine if we had different kinds of deployable vehicles. Others for exploration and discovering new materials and other dedicated combat vehicles and SPEEESS TUNGUSKAS for dakka dakka. But no. Fucking never.

>>145559363
Its a shame, if Fdev could stay focused on making things actually good instead of throwing half finished features in this this game could be great. I'm actually enjoying the surface assault missions but all the half baked features kind of ruin it, there are a total of 2 data tower types that do anything outside of completing missions and its the same with generators.

It really feels half baked, if they gave us more ground vehicle types and gave the data towers purpose it would be great and if they kept adding things to do like an actual purpose for settlements it could be incredible.

>>145559779
Oh well. Maybe some day in the future we will have something awesome. If not in this game, maybe someone else will do it properly.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/265277-Serverside-update-and-upcoming-point-update

>>145559363

This wouldn't be as much of a problem if there were some way to communicate with people in game other than going to a faction HQ and hoping you get put in an instance with someone else. (read: never)

>>145559363
I have a friend with horizions, we found the instancing on planets to be even worse than in space.

>tfw you will never drop a baneblade from your conda

>>145560963
>>tfw you will never drop a baneblade from your conda
ME1 style orbital vehicle drops would be neat and far more fun than the current "find the one flat patch of ground with no rocks" we currently have

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This ship with this paintjob makes me cream my undies a little..

Too bad it's hidden behind a fucking grindwall..

>>145561834

Imagine what that is going to be like on atmospheric worlds and earth-like planets. Mr VISION wants there to be all sorts of shit on the ground when we land there, trees, wildlife, the list goes on.

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>>145561936
>tfw Frontier could've made gaining fed rank and iRank fun and engaging
>tfw they simply made it about grinding missions

>>145562018
I can't wait till 2030!

>>145562018
>>145562210
I'll honestly not be surprised if that never happens. After the shitshow that was Horizons, my expectations are low. Very low. I hope they can change that in the coming content patches, but I doubt it.

There just seems to be a real lack of effort on Frontiers part, maybe the oversold it but I'm pretty disappointed at this point.

Still playing/grinding Sothis though, not even sure why at this point, I care more than I should I suppose.

>>145561936

there are no paints for the corvette

>>145551925
Nice color scheme. Mind sharing it?

>>145562634

We will have a really good idea by the next "expansion" of Horizons hits, since I have no idea how you can fuck up a character creator. The key here is to see what toys they take away when they add the next new shiny thing nobody gives a shit about.

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>>145562945
Here you go, anon.

>>145562634
If they manage to maintain funding for the planned 10 years I can see us having some form of atmospheric landing

>>145562634

>coming content patches

>launch fighters
Will be shitty Condors that pop with 2 pulse laser shots. Will take a module that will halve your jump range.

>passenger missions
Glorified cargo hauling missions. The people who are actually waiting for these as if they will be the savior of Elite are the most cancerous dads

>multicrew
Will be able to get friends to take control of a turret on your ship. That's really it. I have no idea how they plan for this to work with how god awful instancing is.

And then there's another update at the end of the year that Ftroop hasn't revealed anything about, so it will be a surprise. Rest assured it will probably be shit.

If you look at the past content updates for Elite, there is no reason to be excited or look forward to them. Elite is a lot more enjoyable if you just forget about Horizons and how hard Frontier is murdering this game.

>>145563248
Passenger transport is essential as they should've been in the game at fucking launch.

Also since when were passengers planned as part of Horizons?

>>145563362

Newsletter 110

"Coming Summer 2016
Take what comes and strike back with double. Bring a second ship to every combat encounter with Ship-Launched Fighters and defend your passengers against the deadliest threats in the galaxy."

It's an entire feature.

>>145563517
Finally.

They're not going to be some massive game changing feature but they should've been in the game at launch

>>145563641
Won#'t they literally just be 'cargo'? You'll just go to a mission board hit the button and it'll be the same as if they were fucking biowaste or gold.

>>145563641

>implying FD won't drop the ball completely and release bugged passenger missions that give you 50 million for a 15 jump trip

The best part of Ftroop updates is all the bugs and exploits that come with them and seeing dads rage on the forums about muh evil gamers ruining the game with Ftroop's incompetent bug testing.

>64k merits
>not enough time to get 80k before cycle
>going to have only two weeks to get 140m scan data
These are going to be fun two weeks..

>>145564359
In the earlier dev diaries they said they'd require passenger modules and if it took damage it would start killing the passengers. Passengers is important because of what it sets up for, it allows the originally planned Imperial Slave/Slave difference of Imperial slaves requiring passenger space, it gives service and tourism economies a purpose, it gives the Orca and maybe the dropship a purpose and it puts the mechanics in place for things like dropping off troops for surface assaults. Carrying Passengers will hopefully play quite differently to hauling Cargo due to the risks.

But initially yes, it will be similar to cargo hauling except in a more vulnerable module but its the foundation for a lot.

>>145564730
Still 14 hours left

>>145564770

I can hardly believe that FD has that much foresight and that their spaghetti code can even keep up with all this stuff being stacked on top of it.

What was PowerPlay the foundation for?

>>145565149
Not everything is the foundation for something else but Passenger hauling is. Its all in the dev diaries and making Passengers just another Cargo cannister would rape the established lore.

>The first change coming in the server updated will be local news articles at the Engineers bases to help direct players to locations where they will be able to source the materials they need
Not bad
> In addition we will be increasing the amount of materials you can hold from 600 to 1,000. We will also be increasing the amount of Data you can hold from 200 to 500 units.
changes nothing. I got to old limits within days. the need to complacently redo this shit. like limit for each material type separately

>>145565251
FD has no problem raping established lore, anon.

>>145568606
They just declared everything pre ED of questionable canonicity and ED a reboot, FD are consistent with ED introduced lore.

>>145568747
Good job proving me right.

Is it possible to know if Lavigny Duval is going to expand next cycle?

We're taking this to the next level lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HamHFVeAVe0

>>145569731
FOR FREE

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>>145569731
>first to dislike

>>145569731
>literary teleports behind you
I dont think I have enough vision to sit through this

>>145570625
added mine, we all should

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>>145571225
- REP

>>145569731
My story in last thread was 10x better.

Get hyped guys I'm making a new one

guise, no star cithizen thread? I wanted to post my ebin maymays and derek smart material :(

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>>145572660
Go ahead, it's pretty necron here.

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>>145572660
all forms of VISION is welcomed in here

>need 13000 merits to get to 80000
>in exactly 11 1/2 hours I must leave for exam
>calculated that I get anywhere from 1080-1130 merits/h
This is going to be fucking close, I'm so fucking stressed out. If I don't get merits in time I'm thinking about showing up late for exam, if you show up late they won't let in you for 40min after start time

blog/

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>>145545936
>Also, this could mean that ftroop actually tries to make some changes in the game!
Vain hope.

Vision listens to no one, not even forum (grand)dads.

>>145573682
Trust me, you can still grind merits after the cycle reset.

>>145568747
I thought everything pre-ED was always of questionable canonicity.

The Dark Wheel sure as hell wasn't canon that wouldn't even make sense.

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Fucking dads killed it, they kept discussing irrelevant shit and the thread was closed.

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More news from E3 what everyone has been waiting for
new bobblehead for pp "characters"

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it's going to take them few more years to outfit it with medicore modules

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>friend is curious how elite dangerous engineers work
>explain to him
>"OH MY GOOOOOD"
>"HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PLAY THIS BULLSHIT"

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>>145580113
how the fuck did I take the wrong pic

>>145580265
I think your friend wants it in the ass from you

>>145578034

It's bad enough that that is the rate of progression they want everyone else to have.

>>145576362
we should make a ton of threads on the gulag about how excited we are for the archon delaine bobblehead

>>145583365
>implying ftroop even reads threads that aren't made by pecisk

>>145562634
They can pull it off, by which I mean it's technically and otherwise feasible and this is still easily the only game I trust to do it properly.

Reminder that the best thing in this game, like tortanic, is the sound.

Does sothis/ceos have a shipyard/outfitting somewhere in it?

>>145588350
Yes, newholm in sothis

i hope they don't think increasing the material storage and lowering the engineer rare goods unlock amount is enough

>>145590785
y

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What is the middle bottom thing on the new Thrustmaster stick base?

>>145594223
Vision slider

>>145594223
are they going to sell the stick separately too? if so probably a throttle slider

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Firstly, you need a ship with a good jump range and a good cargo cap. I run a D-rated anaconda with 300t cargo and an A-rated FSD for a good jump range. Also, a trade rank of at least Entrepeneur is recommended.

Step 1. Go to Ceos or Sothis and park your conda there. Buy one of the small ships they sell there (i.e Cobra), you'll need the ship to quickly get around that stations in Ceos and Sothis.

Step 2. Take as many Data Transport missions as you can get, from all factions. Switch modes (solo/open/private) to reset the mission board. Once packed with Data missions, go to neighboring Sothis and deliver all Data missions, and take new ones. Go hence and forth between Ceos and Sothis until you reach Friendly with all factions.

Step 3. Once friendly, start looking for cargo hauling missions that require you to hall 20t-60t for anywhere between 3m-6m in profit. Stack those missions until your cargo cap is full and make your way to the bubble. With around 300t of cargo, my conda makes it to the bubble in 17-19 jumps.

Since it's not smuggling, you'll notice that no-one interdicts you. Most missions are dropped off at one, two or three stations, meaning that you won't need to visit many stations. On average, I stack around 8 missions, giving me a total profit of around 35-40 million. All-in-all, getting the right missions and delivery takes an hour.

Step 1 and step 2 might take some time.
Repeat step 3 until you drown in creds.

I know Elite isn't about grinding creds, but you never hear the wealthy complain about the fact they're rich, do you?

>>145596417
>you never hear the wealthy complain about the fact they're rich, do you?
Actually some dads wipe their saves regularly because they don't want to be rich

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>>145597234
I refuse to believe this

>>145597234
That's just because elite has a retarded 1 save per account system and the only fun part of the game is clawing your way up from nothing.

>>145597965
There you have it >>145597935 that's exactly what dads say.

>mfw an Obsidian Ant voice pack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhpxSP8tGkk

I guess he sold out just in time for all the dads to hate him.

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>do missions for independent and fed factions
>going up with all
>going down with federation

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>doing data delivery missions to get my local rank up
>incoming mission critical message
>open it
>it's this

what's the fucking point

>>145599942
Holy shit, I never knew these existed. This is fucking hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yegEjlAneao

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>>145602669
IT KEEPS HAPPENING

I actually really appreciate all the effort on the OP pics. Good work commander! I wish I could rep you twice! :') o7

I'm going to bed /edg/, don't die in my sleep again please.

>>145602856
You doing Sothis runs in an Asp? I do not envy you my friend. What's your cargo capacity?

>>145607267

I can't imagine it's too much, but it's probably faster than what I am doing with a Python.

>>145607267
104 tons, with shield and fuel scoop

I could get a python and outfit it but I'm so close to being able to outfit a conda that it doesn't matter

>>145608431
Python can easily carry twice as much as an asp but the jump range sucks when laden

>>145609023

The shitty jump range was the trade off I was willing to make though. Not disappointed with the mission rewards at least.

>>145554264

Yeah those bonus objectives are great.

>early delivery bonus offered
>immediately fails because it was generated with a time limit of 1 microsecond

>>145608915
You could switch to a 3A shield to squeeze 8 more cargo space in there if you don't mind being a bit more squishy. Especially if you're running A-rated thrusters of course, preferably engi upgraded. And a few mine launchers help.

On the other hand it takes more time filling up on missions and you might not always use the extra space.

>>145602856

holy crap its looking like a complete different game what are this settings? playing on a potato?

>>145610513
4 year old laptop

>engineer bases now tell you which planets materials are found on

can't say i'm surprised but it's still disappointing this is their solution

>>145612485

Anything else probably would have required too much effort for them to have even bothered.

>travel to Sag A and back
>did some but very little detailed scanning, radared system every time
>got 21mil
>want to get to Elite explorer
>140mil left
>by using calculation methods dads developed I would need to scan 2800 neuron stars
Something doesn't seem right. Almost 3000 scans?

>>145614019
sell to chinaman, I heard you get 300% bonus in systems controlled by

dunno if it applies to rank tho

>>145612485
Jesus Christ, Braben is practically giving you everything you want on a silver platter and it's not enough? What is it with you kids, you have your full plate and you look up and demand MORE?! No wonder you're all fat. I'm glad I forced my wife to have her tubes tide so something like you doesn't come out of them one day.

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>>145614295

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>Dahm Vision

>>145615245
>tfw your wife's son in black and bigger than you

poorfag here, would it be possible to get a barebones python to abuse sothis-ceos runs for 90 mil or so?

or should i just do asp explorer

>>145616182
If you're poor, start with a T6. After a few runs, you'll get that Python, then equip it in chinaman space for the discounts.

>>145616317
>t6
>all the way to sothis

pls just let me skip to the python

>>145616527
The T6 has a better jump range than the python.

>>145616767
then why do people use the python at all?

>>145616527
Python isn't that good unless it's A rated, which is damn expensive if you're new.

>>145616917
i was going to a-rank the FSD then fill it with cargo holds and a scoop

>>145616897
it can fight
people love shooting

>>145617784
>python
>fight
>with 1/10 agility
yeah right

>>145617964
Most only judge the amount of hardpoint

>>145617087
You might have to combat log npc's for a while but you'll be fine.

Huh. /edg/ had died when I tried checking in a year ago. Glad to see you faggots are back.

Is the game less of a grind now?
Are shield potions still the only thing to put in the internals of a combat ship?
What are the best weapons these days?

>>145618749
1) it's more grindy
2) yes
3) pulse/burst lasers, something heavy for bigger hardpoints. torpedoes and missiles got buffed

>>145618749
no
you can hulltank too
RNGineer

>>145618749
hahahaha no
pretty much
HUGE. MULTICANNON.

>>145619383
>>145619565
>>145619742
http://edshipyard.com/#/L=70Q,7vB7vB5CD5CD01Q3we0_g0_g,2-9Y9Y7_8S9Y6u6k,7Sk7iW7gy7fO4xo9qI

R8 M80s
I left in a Vulture with a trading Clipper stashed somewhere and according to that flowchart this is the next ship

>>145620162
looks gud, i'd drop the 3B cells for hull reinforcements tho

for the cost and weight they're really damn good

>>145620162
you're better off with a C5 bi weave and hull packages desu. that way shields recovers in 30 seconds while broken and you can hulltank inbetween. if you were to use a SCB use 3B because higher level SCBs regenerate more than your total shields for each cell IIRC

the FAS is so agile you shouldn barely get hit in the first place.

>>145620538
Is that one of those reputation reward things? I left about the time those were released and would need to grind for rank

>>145620694
bi weaves are available anywhere

it's the prismatics that are powerplay specific

>>145620694
Bi-weave is not linked to any ranked shit. It's just a shield that's weaker overall but recharges much faster.

think 4A fuel scoop is enough for python? its not like it has a huge fuel tank after all.

Be me.
Flying my trusty Cobra MK3.
Suddenly someone interdirects me.
Turns out it's another player.
Oh my.
I have no quarrel with you, good sir - I said in to the voice comms.
Some kind of gibberish appeared on my comms.
"fk u fgt" it spelled.
The fellow must have been role playing as and alien and mimicking their language.
Alright let's have us a fight- I said.
The opposing commander piloted Imperial Cutter.
What a beauty!
The commander in question must have spent a great deal of time playing Elite.
Been playing since beeta and almost worked my way to B modules on my Cobra MK3.
Must be a thrill to pilot such a huge beast.
Unfortunate for me I did not last very long in the fight and got destroyed.
Thankfully I had enough money to re-buy my beloved vessel.
Then I remembered that I had to pick up my son from middle school.
Almost forgot about the bugger.
Elite is such an amazing game, you sit down to play for half an hour and it passes in what feels like five minutes.

Now I really have to go.
Fly safe CMDRs o7

>>145620827
Wouldn't that leave you vulnerable to being bursted down? As well as leaving your components exposed while waiting for shields to come back? You can't exactly dodge everything, and although I have no experience with it it just seems like a weaker shield in general

>>145620162
Point defence is a must now

>>145617964
>>with 1/10 agility
Yeah the Python turns like shit but that in-game agility rating has only a tenuous relationship to how ships actually turn.
Anaconda has 2/10 and pitches 360 in 15-18 secs depending on speed.
iCutter has 2/10 and pitches 360 in 20-30 secs depending on speed.

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>>145621229
>beeta

>>145621293
They're not that much weaker than regular shields, and the recharge is 50% faster. It's a decent tradeoff that's worth it for certain ships, DBS and FAS among them.

>>145619383

>burst lasers

When would you ever want burst? All it does is drain considerably more energy while putting out less damage per shot.

>>145622153
i don't personally use burst but i hear good things abotu them

>>145617964

Python can still be a great ship to fly. It's best used as a hauler but it can be easily outfitted to be a decent fighting ship with the proper loadout and can have massive hull tank with all the internal slots you can make into hull reinforcements. It's a great ship if you're strapped for cash and only want to have one ship. Also the cockpit is easily one of the best of any ship.

/d2g/ here
remember when you guys would put dota in your pasta so we would keep you alive with our bitching?
those were the days

>>145624393

>Anecdotal edition:

>Featuring a League of Legends such as Lord Kerbel, who spent Five Nights flying to Europa was in search of Grand Strategy and Civilization, with the occasional Dark Souls.

>*this is not EVE Online or Star Citizen or Ace Combat or a Hentai Game

I miss those days. I want them back.

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>>145624684
The game is arguably better now, it's just that they added more grind and left the broken shit broken.

The forums are a constant source of keks

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>>145625071

I won't argue that the game has improved, but I atleast had some hope that the major content updates like Horizons would be better than the mess that CQC and Powerplay were. After Engineers I don't know what else to expect any more.

I love the new quality of life changes but I hate how the "major" updates that people paid for turn out to be so horribly lackluster. I hope that makes sense.

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>>145626001
It can only get better from here. It produces great backgrounds.

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>>145627702
Not sure if Python or Anaconda is more fun to play with though. What do?

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>>145626001

>I love the new quality of life changes but I hate how the "major" updates that people paid for turn out to be so horribly lackluster. I hope that makes sense.

No, I get you. The smaller changes, fixes and qol stuff are usually suggestions, the new mission board, for example, came about because someone threw out a photoshop on reddit that got popular. Hell, even the screenshot camera was someones idea back during release. Frontier has ideas, they have the vision but the vision is blind. They don't know how to implement anything right. They have to be shown.

>>145628278
go big or go home

>>145628278
>buying paint jobs

>>145628278
what black magic did you use to make python not-shit?

>>145629291
>being poor

>>145629398
A rate everything, large shield, 2 scb's that I toggle between, fixed on lower, turrets on top, cargo bays, collector drones, srv bay, advanced discovery scanner, reactive armor, shield boosters, some mods to engines / fsd, and the pirate paint job. Can also fit a refinery on there and a single C2 mining laser to mine for polonium while being pretty much invincible.

>>145629291
Back when I still thought the game had potential I bought a few. Then Horizons landed and I lost any hope that they will progress beyond these grind mechanics.

>>145629291
It was $2.50 on sale and I'm not a poorfag, so fuck it. It scares the shit out of the dads when I park over them at engineer bases.

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>only play as trader/smuggler
>keep getting dicked by the AI
>see that mines are actually useful now to get rid of AI that are chasing you
>put some on my asp
>get interdicted
>throw a ton of mines while flying straight and boosting
>mines do nothing
>shields drop in seconds and instantly get FSD failure
>get railgun and missile spammed to death

i dont know what im doing wrong

>>145630962
I've been interdicted by vipers cobras dropships and vultures and survived EZ

as soon as you drop, deploy hardpoints, lock the dude, 4 pips to shields 2 to engines and boost while holding down the fire button

you need launchers in all hardpoints and A grade thrusters

the worst I've had I got down to 53% hull and I use C3 bi weave shields without shield boosters. Unsurprisingly, that was a railgun sidewinder that did it

>>145629749
wut weapons

also >fixed on python
lol

>>145630962

Assuming that you are using the Asp Explorer, put one on each of the small hardpoints. The two medium hardpoints will just cause your mines to self destruct to avoid collisions with your ship.

Then you need to make sure they are directly at your 6, and on the same relative plane as you and launch mindlessly.

>>145630962
>he can't beat the interdiction minigame
Top kek

>>145632243
it depends partially on your speed and ability to turn, so in a big fat slow ship you get interdicted very easily

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>>145631694

Picture for reference, since I was lazy before. The medium launchers don't fly over the top of the asp unless you are applying some thrust, so you are better off using the small ones.

Thing is you need to make sure they are following you from behind, otherwise they won't trigger the mines, if the enemy is coming from an angle, they will never fly into them.

>>145630962
Make sure the mines are on their path, so start by boosting some before you start laying mines (deploy chaff & let point defense do its stuff in the meantime) to put them in their trajectory as much as possible.

Spread out the 4 or however many launchers over two firing groups so the distance between pairs of mines is halved vs. firing 4 at once (not sure if this is better but works for me).

I have two shock mine launchers and two regulars for added options (shock are better for slowing down, at least I think, so better if you're unlucky enough to get interdicted by a really strong and fast ship that you can only hope to slow down).

>>145632243
Try beating it in anything bigger than Cobra, dad

are we an hour out from next neetbux cycle?

>>145614019
elite is supposed to be nearly unobtainable
you either have to have no life or be an (elite)

>>145635013
affirmative CMDR

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is there any other good way to earn money outside of sothis/ceos runs? doing that shit drains what little soul the VISION left me

>>145636417
Well if you don't mind the passive money you can afk farm merits while you are sleeping or at work or something.
And you know, there's always ____P_A_I_N_I_T_E____ but it's harder to pull of nowadays.

>>145636417
If you farmed the merits, find yourself a comfy High RES or HAZRES and enjoy some double bounties for the week.

>>145621635
I'm almost certain the maneuverability ratings are nothing more than how much speed you lose diverting power from engines.

>>145614019
>Go out exploran and shit. Accumulate ~100mil worth of exploration data.
>Merit grind with afk turrets until you get 20k merit.
>Defect to the Asian guy and have rank 5.
> > > > >200% profit from exploration data in controlled systems.
>Spend week selling all that data.
>Elite when CMDR?
>NOW

Anyone know ETA for servers coming back online?

>>145621635
>>145640556
The manoeuvrability stats (alongside every other stat shown in-game) are horribly misinformative. Only trust in information acquired by dataminer autists on reddit or the gulag. There's detailed ship and weapon performance charts on the forums and some videos on youtube.

>>145641412
Hopefully never so I have a reason to stop playing this sh... It usually takes 2-3 hours for them to do server updates IIRC

>>145641669
>Only trust in information acquired by dataminer autists on reddit or the gulag. There's detailed ship and weapon performance charts on the forums and some videos on youtube.
I know in the new interface when you equip thrusters it gives you some agility information. I bet it's wrong though.

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>>145636417
It's less soul-consuming than Robigo and it takes less time. The only thing that makes us brain dead is switching modes to get the right missions.

>>145642014
Are you posting that image on every thread?

How's this on the Vive?

>>145643546
I'm curious about this too. I've been playing on my DK2 and VR changes everything for me. For me it feels like a whole new game in VR. Also its much easier for me to fight with the increased awareness from the constant free-look.

>>145545074
We are making a new one ;--)

>>145643546
No personal experience. I'll get back to you in a week on how it is on the Rift CV though.

>>145643702
Tally-ho CMDR!

>>145643546
I heard it was bugged. I don't know if they already fix it or not.

I'm actually doing missions to slowly progress towards the Fed rank required for the Corvette. Have I been blinded by the vision, /edg/?

>>145640616
But what if the fix the turret glitch by the time I come back?

>>145644701
I don't see anyone reporting that bug

>>145644449
Yes. And no. I like doing missions and 'roleplaying' and making stories in my head. However I already own a Corvette and enough capital that I don't need to worry about anything anymore.

>>145644701
Lots of variables in your case. If you farm 80k merits which takes several days of continuous farm. Then you defect and you have 4 weeks to explore. In 4 weeks, with active playing you can acquire enough exploration data for Elite. Especially if you manage to get a lot of first discoveries.

>>145644781
It doesn't mean that FDEV doesn't notice a sudden spike in rank 5s and crashes in crime sweeps. No wait I take that back, I doubt ftroop notices fucking anything.

>>145644781
I wonder if they can see players getting to rank 5 unusually fast.. Having 50mil every week is gansta tho

>>145645115
If only I could buy the ranks with credits. Money aplenty, but I never bothered with ranks until now.

>>145645129
If looking for it, they can see all. But knowing Ftroop, they wouldn't bother with it. until the dads start crying about it

>>145645206
I remember desperately doing the donation shit on Christmas eve when it was still possible thinking that I have to before they patch it, and then they did.

>>145645279
Back in the day when regular turreting was still possible they reset your money if you got too much of it.

>>145645364
Hmm is 85k merits too much?

>>145645450
Obviously not. The more the better. Just remember the 50% decay.

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Why is exploring so fucking boring? Is anyone aside of the dads honestly enjoying it?

>>145646503
Because there's nothing not boring about it, you load screen to a new system, you scan it, if there is anything worth scanning you close to within touching distance to scan the surface then load screen to another system.

I'm not sure how they can make it interesting to be honest

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I haven't played since just before Horizons came out. I bought it recently because I need my empty space but what do I need to catch up on?

>>145646587
Wouldn't take much but the game would have to be fundamentally different and closer to their sales pitch and we all know the server can't just generate gold rush events.

>>145646802
funzones

>>145646587
Not anymore. The whole supercruise mechanic is a pretty fucking mind-numbing exercise. Flying in a straight line with nothing to see. Space is pretty fucking boring. There's nothing there. Random encounters are cool, but >>>>random and when you don't want to deal with some bullshit it sucks to have to deal with bullshit.

I know the lore reasons why you jump to 'stars' but having a station 1 million Ls away from said star is stupid. Just pointless sitting and doing nothing.

>>145647017
See >>145176614

>>145647580
Part about funzones intended for >>145646802

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>tfw anon blessed us with secrets of funzones
>and /edg/ didnt betrayed him

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>Fdev FINALLY talked with Drew
wew lads, guess that means we're back on track for one (1) four sentence galnet post a month

>>145647831
Is it seriously our secret still?
I wonder if P A I N I T E anon will ever share his secrets again.

It could that since we went full necron and stayed hibernated for so long that ribbit folk and dads think we are dead.

>>145647580
That guide is probably no longer true since expansion systems changed

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>tfw Lavigny Duval is expanding again
Rev up those turrets boiz

>>145648343
ALD is expanding still, you just look from her information what system has expansion and go there.

So what these new material descriptions at engineers help?

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>>145647969
some things are best kept hidden

Fuck, I stopped playing some months ago and now I came back I'm in the Lagoon Nebula, I remember I was in my way to the center of the galaxy.

Should I try to go there, or just go back to the bubble, grab my Viper and do some pew pew?
How can you make exploring less boring?

>>145651551
Unless you really like exploring go for it. There's nothing there.

Personally I'd come back to the bubble for some gameplay

>>145651791
I like space. But I feel that if I want to move around space with nothing to do I'm better "playing" Space Engine.

Yeah I'm going back to the bubble, unless I get bored again before that.

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>>145651551
I did that once
ship is still there
sitting somewhere
it was the only way for me to escape the vision

>>145651551
Buy horizon

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>>145652974
NOW

what systems are good for erp

>>145654213
17 virgins

So, which of the Federal ships is the best, and which the worst?

>>145655539
If you want to go full DAKKA: Gunship
If you want to grind RES: FAS (Or Corvette)
If you want to railgun nuke shitters: Dropship
If you want to ram plebs: Corvette

Probably dropship is the worst in terms of usability.

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>>145655790
I want the Corvette so, so bad. But dat fed rank.
I'm actually doing missions to slowly, slowly grind rank just as the Dads suggested. It is the only way.

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>>145656034
>tfw I finally got the Corvette
>'Is this it? Is this what I did all that grinding for?'
>d a t s p e e d or lack thereof
>Those two useless huge hardpoints (back then there were no huge lasers)
Now I just fly a gunship full of dakka or a railgun FDL. Much more enjoyable and fun.

I know what you are thinking. You are in the state where I was 7-8 months ago. But it isn't really worth the regular grind. If some donation exploit turns up then do that. Otherwise stick to the __________________________(fun)__________________________

>>145656310
>fun

>>145656310
As if my current battleconda is any faster. And, two hueg multicannons are the things I dream about. That and hunting Adle's Armadads in a wing of dread pirates.

What the fuck did they do to the game? I tried hunting bounties and the 3rd guy I engaged destroyed all my weapons in seconds after my shield was down.

>>145656703
>implying you will ever be instanced with anyone else.
Anaconda could dish out a larger dps at least before the new huge weapons update.

>>145656709
4 pips to sys.

>>145656709
Bet it's related to how missile weapons can hit external modules now.

I'm looking do USS' I need chemical manipulators. Should I stay in game system or change form time to time and optimal speed to patrol?

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kekkingly kek.
Elite Dadgerous works with my Gear VR plebset!
And when set to a HQ stream, it looks pretty decent as well.

>servers maintenance in 30min
RIP turret farm?

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DE BINTER IS COMIG :DDDD

>>145659967
well meme'd CMDR

>>145659967
Even a shitty space game let players own capital ship

fuck this game

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>quick update
No plz

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>>145661045
If only...
Although, I'm starting to enjoy the smaller craft more than the larger.

>>145661202
>>145659947
Fingers crossed guys, fingers crossed.

>>145655790
>Full DAKKA: Gunship
Yes
>Grind RES: FAS
YES
>Railgun nuke shitters: Dropship
Maybe
>Ram Plebs: Corvette
Hell no. Orca is a billion times better for ramming, its literally ramming: the ship. Like an actual Orca, it'll hurt you just by bumping into you.

>>145664776
Just listed the usecases of those specific ships.
Surely an FDL is a nicer railgun spammer than the dropshit for example.

Imperial Hammer or Railgun?

>>145665062
Railgun.
All the power specific modules are fucking useless with the exception of prismatic shields.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/265584-Remove-RES-from-the-game

Excellent idea. Why have RES? It just encourages farmers and silly grinders to avoid playing the game. Why not use your brain to hunt bounties instead of mindless killing as if this were Call of Duty? *shudder* I hope Frontier listens.

>>145667364
>antagonizing the grinding crowds
I'm fucking done with those dads

I hate AI in this game
>empty cargo
>np
>1 unit of ANYTHING
>get interdirected 20 times
Fucking RE

>>145667364
>some people get accomplishment from playing video games for prolonged periods
>prevent them from doing it
Yeah. Seems like a wonderful idea.

>>145667806

Well they need to give their wife's son a juice box from time to time, while their wife is out "studying."

>here comes dat AI
>flawless 3km aim with dem plasma guns that take your shield of in a second
>wadup

>>145656858
Anaconda has the edge in theoretical DPM. That assumes you're hitting with all of your hardpoints, though, and the huge and bottom large are very difficult to keep on target. The Corvette has much better weapon placement and the two huges have an enormous firing arc, so in reality its more likely the Corvette will be doing more damage.

>>145667364
Well, he's right in that RES shit is grindy as fuck, and I'd prefer it if we had an actual bounty board with mugshots and criminal offenses listed, and we had to actually track them down and take them out for a big payoff, maybe scoop up their escape pod to deliver them alive for a bigger reward, etc.

But I know Fdev isn't going to do that, so removing RES would essentially just be removing profitable bounty hunting from the game entirely.

>>145670892
A dice roll. That's all it would take on Fdev's part. Make them roll the dice with range modifiers and see whether or not they hit you.

Anyone else in Ceos/Sothis unable to get more biowaste missions? I think it's dead, and so is my desire to continue.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/265741-Would-you-Rather-Have-Players-Opt-out-of-NPC-Interdiction-Or-Just-Quit

>another week of no CGs

>>145675345
sorry we got no programmers bro
-fdev

sent from my iphone, near Hawaii

OP here, bump the thread if you want to live

So how are these launchers fighters suppose to last with the new AI. Also did they nerf HAZ res sites? They just keep spawning faction ships with no bounties


The fuck is going on with this game

>>145677930
The only audience that FDev listen to are the masochistic forum Dads who don't mind grinding 2 hours a week for 7 years to get a corvette. God forbid they listen to the people ( sane people who want a fun space game that doesn't require you to sell your sanity) who won't just enable shitty game design choices by bootlicking the everlasting shit out of the devs.

Games have fanboys and defence forces, I get it, but the people that inhabit the fucking Frontier forums are beyond fanatic. It's like Frontier is Slaanesh or some shit, they must be if the forum Dads can turn something so painful into a twisted form of pleasure.

Going to roll FSD 5 upgrade in few min. Make bets, will post results

Do you guys think that braben and his designers even play this game? Like I wonder how they feel about the grind

>>145679178
Of course they don't.
Of if they do, they roll around in maxed out Cutters and Corvettes with eleven billion credits and wonder why everyone is bitching.

>>145673078

I am still able to. Although I am at the point where I am wondering why normal cargo missions in the bubble don't pay out like this.

>>145679178
of course not

>>145679178
I listened to their live stream when Horizons came out on xbone and one of the xbox producers said that he haven't tried Engineers but later said that everyone should because try are awesome, then he said that he doesn't get a lot of time to play but when he does his wife gets upset that he sits alone in computer room so because of that he is playing elite on his windows pad while streaming it form xbone so the he could sit and watch tv with wife

Is this game good yet? I stopped playing shortly after 1.3 after playing since release.

>>145678397
15%

>>145679662
Go to the main fdve forums, Reddit, and read this thread to get a feel of how people love the game

>>145679178

In some interview Braben said he did, and that missions didn't feel impactful enough, because players were just doing the same repetitive things. And yet nothing has really changed, because giving 50% more cuckbucks per mission really doesn't change anything.

>>145679993
not worth coming back then? I liked pirating and dinking around CG's in my Cobra even though I had much better ships.

>>145679178

We joke about the VISION but I think Braben and Sandro and co. legitimately know what they want to do to the game, and I really do think they are trying their hardest to get Elite to be the best game they can possibly make. The issue is that they just have no experience making a game like this. Frontier has only made mobile games, Kinectimals, rollercoaster sims, and I think a couple of mediocre WiiU games. You can look at their implementation of CQC and the recent Engineers patch to see just how clueless they are, but how they do mean well and do try to take player feedback into account. FD bit off more than they can chew, and their incompetence in making a good open-world multiplayer game shows clear as day.

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Spent 7 hours today getting to rank 5 and gathering materials. I'm mad. grade 4 upgrade could give me better range.
>20% less power draw
t-thanks

>>145680745
I think the game is great on short burst. Cruising around or exploring with the interstellar sound track is always fun. I mean the flight model and combat is pretty good. I feel like Everytime I spend more than 2-3 hours on the game it starts to feel like a grind. Yes there's technically a lot to do but there is no depth what so ever

first time in /edg/. where do I find the most players to slay in open? spent all of last night terrorizing eravate in my federal assault ship but killing sidewinders eventually does get old. also does anyone want to wing up sometime for killing all the casuls?

>>145681467
>casuls
You clearly need to lurk more

>>145681467

>seal clubbing in Eravate

pls. Go to Aisling's HQ and fuck up leddit dads.

>>145680979
I honestly think they're a little confused as to what they actually want the game to be. They know they want it to be the biggest baddest space sim available, but they aren't quite sure how they want to achieve that. Should it be through a single player focus or a multiplayer focus? They have these features like the background sim and powerplay, that absolutely scream, big organized mulitplayer groups, but the rest of the game is designed with a singleplayer focus, and it all just comes together really sloppily, and you have the worst aspects of both types of games being amplified by that. If this were to be single player game then there should be no reason for there to be so much grind, but that sort of gring works in an MMO since it encourages people to group up and take on the grind together, yet ED doesn't really reward group or team play in any meaningful way, all rewards are oriented toward individual players. By the same token a multiplayer focused game need to have way more community features than ED currently presents, as well as hubs and ways to direct players in to common areas where they can meet each other, as well as goal players need to coordinate in order to acomplish, Elite does none of this which is why it's often so hard to find other players, and when you do there's a general fear that another player is just going to kill you, since that's really the only meaningful contact two players can have. The whole thing just comes off as confused.

what the fuck is FD doing on all these vacations?

>Greetings CMDRs, heres 2.1, only a couple months behind schedule
>time for a vacation!
>we're back from vacation for E3! We're a partner in the PC gaming show, but arent actually doing anything
>time for a vacation!
When they come back it'll only be a couple weeks till bong school holidays, which they'll have to take off to look after the wifes son

>>145682001
It's a European thing, apparently they all get fuckloads of time off throughout the year. UK for example has to, by law, offer a minimum of 5 and a half week of paid leave each year.

>>145682351
>five and a half weeks off
Jesus tittyfucking christ.
My boss would have a stroke if someone took five weeks off a year.

>>145681641
:(
>>145681672
i'll keep that in mind. only problem is i aligned with aisling for the sweet prismatics. i can't get negative merits can i?

>>145682351
In practise you get less than that as most employers include bank holidays and the christmas-new year period in that.

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>>145682001
they are trying to figure out how create engaging and emergent game play you silly goose

>>145679336
>implying that they fly anything other than Cobras

>>145682351
>>145682621
I live in the UK and it seems like FD takes a shitton of vacations

The holiday entitlement for a full time worker is about 28 days, and 9 are used for bank holidays which leaves 19 days. Call it 4 weeks of holiday that the employee can assign. Perhaps it just the lack of content being added/patched but It feels like FD is out of office for more than 1 month a year, even with a bunch of 3 day weekends.

>>145684157
Braben flies an >ASP[1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E267qO6Bv64

>>145683615
>christmas-new year period
christmas day and new years day are bank holidays but the rest is normal workdays. A lot of places that give you time off over christmas/new year will take it out of the 5.6 weeks entitlement. FD released horizions and then took 2 weeks off (if i remember right).

>>145684539
pretty funny, but I hope that faggot necks himself for laughing like that.

>>145684747
Most employers here that aren't retail will make you take the time off and take it out of your entitlement.

5.6 weeks is for part time jobs.

I just found out that cargo racks from wreckages give very rare mats. Found antimony, ruthenium and tellurium. Anyone got one that spawns polonium? these engineer mats are fucking impossible to find.

>>145685218
>tfw I get 2 week vacations per year
well senpai, you know what to do

>>145686626
senpai, word filters are back desu

>>145681168
shit, rank 3 can give better results than a bad rank 5 roll

>>145688915
ah I see
you have to divert power to ENG before rolling to get the best results
I recommend 4 pips to ENG1 pips to SYS and WEP
fly safe CMDR

>>145689453
Always 4 pips to SYS. Always.

>>145689453
>>145689613
is this a meme I don't understand?

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>EG cucked Adle's Armadads AGAIN

>>145689849
I for one welcome Space Russia

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>>145689849
>>145689980
>herewego.avi

>>145689679
its a joke
forumdads defend the op AI by accusing other players not doing pip management when faced with plasma auto cannon npcs

>>145690046
These are the corp russians, there's another group that is communist russians

>>145685218
I know it happens at some places but i've never worked a job that made you take the christmas/new year period off, and the only people i know who are made to are teachers.

5.6 weeks is the entitlement for full and part time work, but the actual amount you get is worked out by multiplying the number of days worked a week by 5.6. 5 days a week is 28 days leave, 3 days a week is 16.8 days leave.

>>145690046
damn /vg/ is fast today
STOP POSTING ON OTHER THREADS YOU COMMIE BASTARDS

>pretty far out in the space
>aprox behind the core
>just a regular star scan and system map check
>notice what looked like an earth like planet
>but it had that blue symbol which indicated you could land on it
>what.jpg
>of course I went there, thankfully I had my SRV
>as I approached the planed I didn't notice anything special
>on the map it looked like it had sky, water and some green
>but in reality looked something like mars, redish
>since I already landed decide to ride SRV for a while, nice change of pace I thought and maybe find some much needed materials
>almost an entire hour passes of me cracking stones
>nothing but the common shit, few Arseniks though
>suddenly I noticed a very strong signal on my srv
>it kinda resembeled the signal you get when close to those flying drones
>since I'm this far out unlikely
>probably those barnakles, wouldn't be too bad
>signal was unusually strong
>continued driving towards it
>then I finnaly came over the hill I saw something amazing
>a huge fricking pyramind
>and it even had an entrance
>barely collected my thoughts and went straight in there
>place was really dark
>srv lights didn't help, could still see the interior at least
>smoke started filling my srv, as if I was overheating but I definitely wasn't
>everything went black