Final Fantasy General CCXII - /ffg/

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Anyone else feel like XV is going to get bad reviews?

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Would you help this true Lucian remove filthy foreigners?

>>145464563
FFXV will release and sell based on hype, but ultimately receive the same reception as XIII from the fanbase in the long run.

Within about a year of it's release, a spin-off will be made, most likely a prequel but possibly a sequel depending on how the story goes, that features the Kingsglaive as the main characters and may relate to its founding, or re-founding depending on prequel/sequel, and it will sell based on the fact that people finally get to play as the characters they wanted to play all along, including waifus.

Screencap this post for future reference. It will happen.

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Would you fuck a young Matoya?

>kingdom hearts not even mentioned at e3
feels bad

>>145464563
Yes.
Because this game has been in development for 10+ years and people want an amazing game
We're getting cinematic garbage with a boyband and more than likely an empty Open world with nothing to do outside the story

>>145464702
I doubt that because XIII cured most of the fanbase from being blind consumers. There's been a LOT more coverage of XV than XIII as well.

And I doubt they'll continue to invest in the series seeing how much they're doing already.
>movie, anime, game, and more

I doubt it will all pay off.

>>145464563
The journos that got to play it even liked the VR thing, so nah.

>>145464954
I don't think at this point anyone cares about reviews from "journalists".

so when is that Brave Exvius presentation starting?

>>145465042
But everybody cares about Random Whiny Faggot No.23, am I right?

>>145465187
Nah, I think what you should be looking at is more consistently brought up issues among a significant part of the playerbase to see what worked and what didn't, or what rubs some people wrong, or what features they really enjoyed.

At this point the amount of lone individuals someone trusts with an accurate review should be very small and very close to their own social circle. The rest you can better glean from the reaction of a sufficiently large enough audience to be significant.

>>145465146
I'd be surprised if BE gets much support for much longer, considering how insanely profitable RK is to the point of Square trying to steal its audience by making WoFF so they have a title they fully control with the same promise.

It's amazing how stupid they are if they didn't realize the appeal of playing with all your waifus from across all FFs before RK took off.

>>145465575
>WoFF
I honestly just want to see more of FemProtag

>>145465575
>I'd be surprised if BE gets much support for much longer
Completely different companies make RK and BE - they're just using Final Fantasy licencing.

>>145465575
BE is by design a pretty good game so if they don't fuck it up with support(say barely readable english emails from them) it could go for quite a while, but again, when's the presentation? And is there any place that will livestream it?

>>145465807
Pretty sure SE is the one paying for shit like presentations and would have to approve most big PR campaigns using their IP.

>>145466004
Half of these fags keep deluding themselves or only ever saw screenshots from 4/5/6, I mean for fucks sake in VII you had a car, and one of these fags complains about fire weapons(I guess he means firearms) so ENTIRE FFVII

>>145466004
Literally not a single person commenting there is older than 14

>>145466192
That puts them right into SEs target audience for the game by the time it actually comes out though

>>145464328
I like Edea's tits. I don't think she's wearing a bra, how naughty.

>>145466243
>tfw never touched a FF game until I was in my 20s
It's always weird to me when people start accusing the series of being shonen and for teenagers. I rarely get that feel

>>145467461
If you're making console videogames your primary audience is males between the ages of 14 and 30 really.

>>145467592
Girls play games too.

>>145467620
Yes, but girls are not the primary audience for home consoles, because home console libraries generally feature shooters, wrestling games, stuff like that, whereas the most popular genres with women are primarily located on PC or mobile.

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>>145467313
She's one of the more underrated FF girls

>>145467870
whatever is going on with the side of her head looks gross

>>145467313
>>145467870
Can you really call it Edea in those and not Ultimecia?

>>145468048
It's Ultimecia's possession. After she's cured the vein things go away.

>>145468073
It's Ultimecia in those, but the regular Edea looks the same.

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My final Job set up is White Mage, Mystic Knight, Bard and Dragoon. Seems like a balanced FJF run

>>145468409
Mine's white mage/summoner/red mage/dragoon. I have like no job synergy except for dualcast summons.

>>145468481
I think you're in a better position than I am. That's a pretty strong setup overall

>>145465419
Thing is, this "significant part of the playerbase" can be completely skewed because of the echo chamber effect. Take Witcher 3 for example: according to /v/ and Neofaggots it has the worst gameplay known to man, completely unplayable. Meanwhile in the real world, it's one of the most critically appreciated games ever that shipped 10 million copies.

What is portrayed as bad reception is often just a tiny minority whining. And this is something you can't really avoid if your audience is large and diverse enough.

>>145468409
Black, summoner, Geo, Dragoon.

JUST

>>145468531
Dragoons suck though

>>145468889
Show me your genitals, genitalia-chan.

>>145467461
KH is the actual SE shounen for teenagers. A few years ago I remembered I'd liked KH1 and 2 and figured I'd play BBS. Let's just say I didn't get very far.

>>145468724
They're definitely the weakest Earth job. But they're not that bad honestly. Jump is a good evasion ability and hits hard

>>145468652
At least your Geo can act as a mini Black Mage

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>TFW Got a geomancer for my first job
>TFW Playing an Upgrade Chaos run
>TFW Freelancer for 3/4 of the first world.

>>145465856
>BE is by design a pretty good game
top kek

Have you tried to play it, it's utter shit.

>>145464930
>one of the few people who genuinely adored FFXIII and Lightning herself
I don't feel bad for having this taste, but it makes me feel quite lonely.

>>145469469
A maxed out Geo is pretty entertaining. Not very reliable, but unexpectedly fun. Wish i could manipulate what moves he could use

>>145469685
I'm with you, friend

>>145469654
have you?

>>145469685
Don't worry, I'm the same.

>>145469685
I don't care for Lightning but I grew to genuinely like the XIII trilogy. XIII and XIII-2 are legitimately good to great games.

>>145469694

Geo is shockingly versatile,

Problem is you have to memorize ~30 different abilities to know whether or not it's actually good against a mob at a particular area.

>>145470302
13 was meh. 13-2's main enemy (caius) sounds retarded. 13-3 sounds the most interesting desu

>>145470193
yup and I'm very close to uninstalling it. I just log on to get dailies and send FP

face it, it's a shit game that people will stop playing after 2 months

>>145470695
People said the exact same thing about RK.

>>145470695
I remember how the same was said about RK actually

>>145470695
And why do you think this?
The only problem I see is lag and gapcha rates, and currently lack of content (which is fine since it isn't even released)
Theres...
story
large ability selection
decent graphics
decent music

Red Dragons are nice fuck you enemies. Even as a seasoned FF5 player I still got pasted by one.

>>145470484
>"was"
I can respect this guy's opinion since he gave it a chance
>"sounds"
>"sounds"
Please play the game before discussing it

>>145471119
I don't need to eat shit to know it won't taste good.

>>145471216
>food analogy
top kek

>>145471119
Fine desu. Give me the games.

>>145470926
the abilities are pretty same face for character. character drop rates are utter shit, story is very blande (but at least it has one) and the game is basically auto-battle the game

>>145470323
Yeah. It's already saved my ass a couple times cause of my lack of ethers.

>>145471696
>game is basically auto-battle the game
Games tend to be auto-battle in the beginning.
Have you tried the harder bosses currently in the game like Ifrit 2* or S-5 arena boss?

>>145471545
How about XIII-2 and LR: FFXIII since you want to discuss them so much? I don't have a problem with you or your taste but people discussing games without giving them a chance drives me up the fucking wall

You know, FF5 is probably the only final fantasy where going Freelancer is the best option.

The ability to use every weapon/armor/accessory in the game cannot be beat.

>>145472791
After mastering some other jobs yes

>>145472363
That was me until last year.
>bought XIII like 3 months after release because it didn't appeal to me much
>got butthurt about muh linearity, muh Lightning and muh anime
>shitposted about it and the sequels for years
>last year decided to replay it for the Platinum trophy
>it was actually pretty good as far as JRPGs go
Moral of the story: don't be a jaded faggot.

>>145472791
FFT was kinda like that I suppose. Though Squire was only for Ramza.

>>145469685
I fairly adored XIII, but hated Lightning.
Fang, Vanille, and Sazh carried it for me.

>>145473821
That's cause Fang and Vanille are the only characters important to the story (and Vanille only as accessory to Fang), and Sazh is the only relatable, human character that acts like most people would in their situation with visible motivations and emotions (Dajh) most people can relate to.

Is yesterday's kingsglaive trailer up on youtube yet?

The new zelda looks like a better open world game than XV desu

>>145474051
Sahz would have been a great character if SE hadn't tokenized him to hell and back

>>145474417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGl_2gYrfM0

It's in the OP.

>>145472363
Yes. Ill play them. I just graduated anyway.

I was looking around, and to get 100% in this FF I wanna play for the first time, it would take 200hrs.

I would think that to have the best experience first you would go fully blind and then you would 100% with a walkthrough to get all the shit you missed, but even the minimum time for it is 50hrs. If I'm going to spend 50hrs on it, might as well go for the 200 already and get it all over with.

Do you guys think this is the wrong way to go about it? I don't plan to replay, that's why I ask, it would be pretty sad to miss nice/cool or maybe even important stuff and never see it again.

>>145474704
And that combat isn't as slow.

>>145475459
No kidding

>>145475459
Zelda also sticks to their established iconic mounts, whereas Chocobos are now replaced by cars, apparently.

>>145476000
>>145474704
It looks good, the problem is the platform. What the fuck am I doing with a WiiU? Playing one of the maybe 4 games they'll have in its lifetime?

XV might be worse than zelda, but there are a hell of a lot of other games to turn to when I get over XV. and that spiderman game looks baller af desu

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ded general, ded fantasy

>>145476290
Hopefully the NX is good, cause it's also for that.

>>145476000
>FF has had cars for 20 years
>now
Back in my day shitposting meant something.

>>145476290
XV is gonna be on PC soon enough though. Zelda? Never.

>>145476785
Yes it's had cars, but they never really replaced chocobos, they just existed as a marginally featured thing. They never took the center stage away from airships either, for example.

Besides, people fucking love dressing up their chocobos in XIV and all, so I don't know why they didn't see an opportunity there.

>>145476785
Yeah, I remember that iconic part in FF7 where you have to rent a car to drive over the swamp so the Midgar Zolom doesn't get you.

Oh wait.

>>145475449
Please, I would love the input of those that have gone through the experience, since you can best inform me of how good/stupid of idea this may be.
The FF in question is FFX/X-2

>>145464328
>>145475195
i don't know
something feels off

>>145477198
100 percenting games is for jerks and will make you never want to look at it again

>>145477219
Stay calm, anon. Everything will be better once the squats have been posted.

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>>145476924
Must suck to have Alzheimer's.

>>145476894
Just in case you're serious: you do realize that XV has chocobos everywhere, with racing and everything?

>Rune Knight
>Knight
>0

I hope that FF15 does bad enough it makes Square wake up and go back to a more traditional FF, but good enough that it doesn't kill the franchise.
FF14 is proof people would like a more traditional FF game

>>145477303
Could you give me a brief idea, without/with little spoilers about what I would be losing by not 100%ing it?

Because if it's just some items that don't do anything to story, or some strong weapon that make things easier, I could pass on that.

>>145477715
FF14 is an mmo, you fuck.

>>145477536
The guy forgot the buggy existed, but calling out any one vehicle or mode of transportation as iconic or representative from 7 of all games is really a bad choice, since 7 basically let you drive everything under the sun at one point.

Motorcycle, chocobo, buggy, snowboard, submarine, personal airplane, spaceshuttle, personal airplane used as a boat, airship. Technically there's even a robot in your party riding another, larger robot.

>>145475449
I dont recommend using a walkthrough for your first experience. It really ruins the experience. Oddly it ruins your experience of the story as well, i assume that us because you pay more attention to the min naxing than the story.

There is no real reason to 100% games anyways unless you have an obsessive compulsive thing about games, like me.

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>>145476000
>>145476894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW5bEwT6ddw

>>145477715
>it's muh tradition episode
So the game should consist of nothing but FF references?

>>145477891
>>145477792
I think the retard is thinking that final fantasy = less technology and more magic/fantasy

>>145476290
WiiU is great if you want party games. Have 4 people over and start drinking games, shit is fun

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>>145477813
That doesn't change the fact that chocobos weren't the main mode of transportation in VII and yet the self-proclaimed "true fans" didn't seem to mind.

>>145477785
Do you like hitting s button when you see lightning for 300 times in a row? Congrates on 100%

Dont bother with extra shit for X if you want challenging baytles then do monster hunter but everything else is trash

>>145478104
Let's be real here: the true fans of VII played it as kids, and are now productive members of society since that was like 20 years ago

Does Dia scale with MND?

>>145472114
>Implying that he played it past like the goblin dungeon.

>>145477785
>without/with little spoilers about what I would be losing by not 100%ing it?
Many of the minigames reward one of two pieces needed for characters ultimate weapons.
The real joke is, aside from one which is annoying RNG at best, every weapon actually worth using either has the pieces gotten for basically free or very little effort is required.
In fact, the really only majorly time consuming part is blitzball and blitzball is actually fun anyways.

>>145476924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvmhJ4nOHOQ
chocobo chase scene through Midgar

>>145478327
Yes

>>145478104

Upgrade and Chaos

>Wind: Geomancer
>Water: Geomancer
>Fire: Summoner
>Earth: Bard

>Bards
>Four of them
>Four bards
>With Summoner secondary.

>>145478475
Oh, that's pretty cool. I can actually go fully blind then, thanks so much!

>>145478193
Will keep that in mind, thanks anon.

>>145477813
Modes of transport have been a staple since I. Hell look at IV,how many airships, modifications and chocobos do you get? A dozen?

There is nothing wrong with cars airships and anything else. Chocobos are just one part. I would argue that airships are just as much a staple

>>145478920
If you're just starting, one bit of help I will give is that when you wind up on a beach early in the game, swim to the right.

I hope FFXV bombs just so Square Enix knows not to fuck with their fans

>>145479056
In IV you even get a buggy when you meet Edward.

>>145479129
It's still going to sell stupidly well.
Within a week there will be mass pictures of Japs destroying their copies,

>>145479095
Standard or Expert sphere? Or it doesn't matter?

>>145479308
Doesn't matter I'm pretty sure, it's just a treasure chest.

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>all this XV shit
>so much focus on "muh graphics", and making this epic world and cinematic masterpiece
>all this time that could have been spent making memorable gameplay
>instead it has to be a game that basically plays itself with cutscenes, auto-combat, and QTE based bosses

>SNES FF worlds were fun as hell to explore
>PSX FF worlds were fun as hell to explore
>they look like shit by today's standards
>the bosses were fun and strategic (at least by comparison)

Why must we please the normies? Why must square cater to the people who can't play a game that doesn't make you feel like you're watching a movie?

>>145477891
It should consist of fantasy characters.
Not a boy band.
Appealing to the fujo audience has been ruining FF games

>>145479524
>>they look like shit by today's standards
The sprite ones 100% do not look like shit.
VII is dated for sure and the models of VIII are dated, but IX's models weren't too bad.+

>>145478214
>productive members of society
Kek

>>145479524
>implying menu based combat is gameplay and not just as bad as auto-combat

>>145479308

Expert you can fuck yourself up if you don't know what you are doing, but if you do the game gets magnitudes easier.

Standard is fine but there are certain bosses who will rape your ass over and over because of party dynamics.

>>145478664
Don't you have to have one of each class?

>>145478104
You used the car from the Gold Saucer to Nibleheim, Aka the next place after the Gold Saucer. After that you used the Tiny Bronco as a boat.
After that you get the traditional FF airship and can start breeding Chocobos for getting to areas neither of the others can get you

>>145479810
Upgrade means once you get a new crystal, your entire party must become the class that crystal gives.

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>>145479524
>FFIV
>FFVI
>FFVII
>FFVIII
>FFIX
>strategic

>>145479810
>>145479903

Yeah #Upgrade is a serious gamble for non-regular runs because there's a small chance of ending up with 4 of a gonk class.

4 bards however is pretty sick, especially with a Spellcaster class on the side.

SE started streaming, is BE going to be showed today?

i see people only using four characters for the cid mission
but the moogle says in a party of up to four VI characters which could imply you can take one unit of a different realm with you

>>145480481
it's easy enough with 4 people

>>145480450
fuck that i want pinball

Holy shit I actually mastered Dahaka+++ with only one medal lost for actions taken.

I'm 100% sure this would have been completely impossible if I didn't have huge XIII synergy to get me even remotely to the necessary damage output. I took out maybe the middle third of his health while he was staggered only.

Wall as RW continues to be broken as fuck though.

>>145480481
It could also imply that you cannot have more than 4 synergy characters, but I think they're going for the "oh in FFV the party limit was 4 characters" deal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fslh25FbVl4

>>145480595
>>145481302
ya i'm going the safe way and just take 4

>>145480054

>Key words: In Comparison

>>145481168
>Wall as RW continues to be broken as fuck though
I think you mean to say only way of mastering bosses.

Having one or two characters with that SB is dumb as shit

>>145479675
I love the way they look, especially the SNES games and IX. But you will never convince the "modern gamer" that this is the case. I have this normie friend that thinks he's a "gamer" because he bought a ps4 and a bunch of games and he was hyping XV so I got him to give VI a try and he didn't even get to whelk before he said "fuck this dude it looks so bad" and wouldn't play anymore. I also told my brother's girlfriend (a self proclaimed "gamer" that "likes rpgs") she should try VI and showed her some stuff on it and she said (and I quote) "I don't think its for me, its trying too hard to be retro". I've never been triggered so hard.

>>145479685
Maybe not, but I think there's more strategy to menu based combat than holding the dodge button while mashing the attack button (which was what I got from duscae)

>>145481168
I don't have a wall and used a shout rw and only lost one action medal.

My fanboyism of VI really shows in RK. I have so much synergy for it...and still want to pull this banner...must refuse...

>>145481325
Did they really need to make a trailer for the second episode of a free web-released anime where each episode is 15 minutes long?

>>145481729
>trying too hard to be retro
God damn it...

I don't play AAA games anymore cause they focus too much on graphics. I want gameplay so i stick to stuff like FTL and Darkest Dungeon. Those are good games you dont need crazy graphics

Should i take slowga to the ultimate or is tempo flurry good enough?

>>145481692
Yeah that's another way to put it.

Having like 3 retaliator knights is also dumb as fuck. The way they added Shooter in JP and who got it is dumb as fuck. Having weapon types that 1-3 characters in the entire game can use only is dumb as fuck, too.

DeNa isn't necessarily very good at balance or meta I guess. But Wall is some seriously egregious shit, and we can only hope they have enough insight to actually hand the pitiful two items that give it out on the global banners, becuase otherwise they're gonna have to start nerfing our encounters.

>>145481325
Final Fantasy Fight confirmed

>>145481928
You probably also have more damage output and especially much much better armor relics than I do.

My second best armor in my entire collection is Heavy Armor, so in a Magic-heavy fight I am utterly fucked.

>>145482021
Pull the second one, no more than 3 times, for Portrait of Lakshmi. Any more and you will be looked down upon by your peers, anon. Under no circumstance pull on the first.

>>145482345
At least they seem to be learning to some extent. Setzer's latest SB weapon on this banner is a thrown type instead of of the old "gambling tool" bullshit and I'm guessing things like barret's arm guns will be regular guns from now on as well.

And even though wall is stupid OP and mandatory, they are making it more accessible directly or indirectly too. Its on these beginner banners and JPs selection banners, as well as every fest. And indirectly by means of offering medica, hastega, and boost relics out the fucking ass nowadays. Significant improvement over the days when hastega/medica where as rare as wall and all 3 were still highly important.

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>>145482474
>You probably also have more damage output
Possibly.

> much much better armor
I guess that would be true magic wise

>>145482597
>Portrait of Lakshmi
Well, looks like I'm stupidly wasting all of my mythril soon.

>>145482345
>becuase otherwise they're gonna have to start nerfing our encounters.
stop crying, we've had more opportunities to get wall than JP (because we've had more lucky draws) and they do just fucking fine. You can't even bring a wall to the majority of Cid's missions and people clear those just fine. If people can clear Ultimate+ and Ultimate++ fights with no wall using a heavily restricted party, how the fuck is wall necessary? It's ridiculously fucking strong yes, but it's not mandatory by any means.

>>145482760
Don't do it anon! BSB fest is in 2 weeks!

>>145482669
Unfortunately I already have the Atomic Scissors as far as gun arms go. I also have a Blitzball.

And Atomic Scissors are on another upcoming banner again. So we will continue to suffer for a bit yet.

I still don't have a Medica relic, mostly because of no five stars from WHM Abyss, and Wall sure as hell wasn't on my Beginner banner. Tyro's item was the Lightning AE.

Mostly hoping that Summoner 5* banner will give me something, and that said something is for a SMN/WHM hybrid and not a SMN/BLM hybrid, even if Y'shtola is already out.

>>145482760
I have two natively 5* armor pieces, rest is upgraded.

Also I really, really, really want Rikku's flexible arm you got there, but its the tiniest chance on the shittest upcoming banner we're getting and I can't afford to throw tons of mythril at it.

>>145482928
>bosses one shot characters
>wall not nessecary

>>145483074
I only have 13 mythril anyways. I'll probably do a 3x or 2 singles and start to heavily conserve and shove through more core dungeons.

>>145483184
You've only been playing a couple months I'm guessing? I've been playing since like december and generally have really poor luck on pulls.

>>145479129
How are they fucking with their fans?

Game looks great to me and I've been a fan since 1997.

Then again, I've never been an armchair game designer.

>>145483368
There are other forms of mitigation and people regularly clear Cid's Missions without a wall. If it really is necessary, how the fuck is that possible?

>>145483483
>1997
Newfag

>>145483074
Also a Lucky Draw in a few days.

>>145483505
>Cid's Missions
Those are all easy as fuck why do you keep bringing that shit up? I'm doing cid missions with lvl 30-40s just to milk the XP. What I'm talking about is ultimates

>>145483724
Which banner is it anyways?

>>145483368
Are you not using shell/protect?

>>145483714
And it's reversible so if you don't like it you can flip the cover and just get the FFXV logo on a black background.

>>145483451
Yeah hasn't been too long, but I'm in the really poor luck club with you. Threw tons at the 2nd XIII banner in hopes of one or several copies of Lightnings armor since its Light armor and also the banner being solid enough that the potential other items were still nice.

After wasting way more mythril than was reasonable I ended up getting off-banner 5* Genji Armor. And that's my 2nd best.

I would be super hype for a special lucky draw banner where every 5* is guaranteed to be armor, cause the lack of it and rarity of decent armor on banners has become a serious hurdle for my progress.

BSB Fest banners are also not super heavy on armor, but it's not as bad as their complete lack of Spears for example.

>>145483725
I'm not talking about the ones in the current event, retard, but thanks for demonstrating that you actually know fuckall about the game. Starting with Braska's events you'll get missions to clear Ultimate, Ultimate+ and Ultimate++ events using only characters from that realm. I don't know if your fucking pea brain will be able to figure this out so I'll just tell you: that means you can't bring your best SBs and you can only bring either Shout or Wall as a RW but not both. Many people opt to use an offensive buff instead of Wall even when they're forced to use mediocre characters without unique SBs and they clear those fights.

Clueless fucks like you should just shut the fuck up and stop bitching. You don't understand this game well enough for your bitching to be of any relevance.

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>>145483724
this desu

Also a list of summon lucky draw for FFQTK:
>Rydia
>Krile
>Terra
>Aerith
>Rinoa
>Garnet
>Eiko
>Yuna
>Ashe

36 possible relics to pull, 27 of them are for the above characters. This means that every 5* you get on this lucky draw has a 75% chance of being a qt relics. Not quite as good as the white nightmare, but still really damn good. A must pull banner desu

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>>145483714
Eurofag here.

Final Fantasy covers are pure white with black text with the series name and the entries number, with a small, dimly colorized, stylised version of the games central plot element.

Please grow some taste, amerifats.

>>145484123
To be fair, weapons are a bit more important than armor anyways.

>>145484171
>Summoner
Oh boy, something I don't care about in the slightest. My only summons are Ultros and Alex and neither is honed at all.

>>145484135
Hey it's that guy that has to insist on how dumb everyone else is and will not drop an argument until they admit to him how inferior they are, even openly demanding such. I missed you from yesterday.

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Whos relic will you draw?

>>145483714
>>145484027
>obligatory weapons for Murricans
Top kek. But it's nice to have a reversible cover.

>>145483581
Oldfag

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>>145484479
Mine will probably look like this

>>145484464
Ha, I knew it was you. Still making completely retarded claims while pretending you have any idea what you're talking about, I see. Maybe if you'd stop talking out of your ass I'd stop calling you a retard. You don't know anything about this game so stop pretending you do.

>>145484479
Probably blanked.

>>145484336
You don't need summons to find use in the SB weapon of a character who happens to have the ability to use summons.

Hell, people were just arguing about how necessary Wall is, every single Nightmare Dungeon Lucky Draw is a chance to get SG because Tyro has all the skills.

>>145484479
Really thinking about skipping this one

>>145484308
That's what they're getting too, except with pure black this time. Versus/XV has never been associated with white.

>>145484267
Summon Lucky Draw is sadly a complete gamble as to whether you're gonna get a WHM or a BLM, since we all know you're not gonna have enough hones to really equip a pure Summoner, should you even want to run one.

>>145484479
Only 3 favorable outcomes for me: Garnet, but something other than her Wizard's Rod since I have that already and she's my WHM, but then it's questionable if I'm gonna use that other SB.

Yuna's BSB, or Tyro's Wall.

>>145484614
Actually it's not me. I just recognize you for being the same shitter with the idea that discussions are about personal victories and superiority.

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>>145484135
>>145484464
>>145484614
Calm down, kids

>>145484135
I play global not jap version dumbass

>>145484336
Alexander is a beast i have him at R4

>>145478551
Legitimately one of my favorite sequences in VII. The Crazy Motorcycle Chase is also underrated as hell.

>>145484752
"The series HAS to change to survive!"

>RK banks on classic FF feel. Huge Success.
>FFXIV banks on classic FF feel. Huge Success. People jerking off to main menu with classic logo and classic prelude music.

When will they learn that breaking tradition is not buying them anything other than making the games legacy going to look even worse when you line it up next to the rest of the series.

>>145484694
True, plus it slipped my mind that Rinoa had 5* summoning too, so I get another chance at actually getting a SB for her.
I'm gonna wind up pulling two of Yuna's fucking rod and I know it. Either that or another healing grimoire.

>>145484804
>discussions are about personal victories and superiority
They aren't, but you can't have a discussion with faggots who refuse to admit they're wrong when their claims are demonstrably complete bullshit.
>>145484869
And guess what? All those events and features are coming to global and people are still going to clear them without a wall, but even then you probably won't admit you're wrong because that would hurt your precious retard feelings.

>>145484479
Would love to have
>Yuna BSB
>Eiko flute
>Garnet SSB
>Terra SSB
>Rydia SSB

Wouldn't mind
>literally any other qt relic

Will probably get
>a guy's relic

>>145485094
Also the Train Ride from Hell, with the Braking minigame that actually lies to you to heighten drama.

>>145485158
People amend their positions as the discussion proceeds to suit them to whatever has been debunked. They don't stop, prostrate themselves and admit to you how wrong they were.

>>145485178
Braska. You're getting Braska. He is THE ONLY male 5* Summoner other than Tyro, and his event is literally right there with the Lucky Draw, to make it extra useless.

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>>145484308
This is the reversible cover.

>>145484804
I do some battles with only summons 2 R4s with vanille is enough to do most ultis

>>145485480
I really wish I had the Physician's Staff for Vanille. Sadly she's not SMN 5 so no chance.

I want to be able to have my waifu's waifu as my healer.

>>145485158
I cant do U+ anyways cause i dont have wall or the 7* equip those people have. So i will skip like every other U+

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>>145485465
Iunno. It should just be white like the rest. This just makes it stand out as trying too hard to be edgy when placed next to the series, which look very dignified.

>>145485747
Well, Versus was always presented in black in contrast with XIII's white. And considering the late game takes place largely in darkness, it's quite fitting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6rzUBx6LDk

>>145485294
Which would be okay if those amended position weren't just as full of shit. At some point when some faggot is spouting bullshit statement after bullshit statement, there's got to be a point where he in his tiny brain should just give up.
>>145485724
>t-the only reason people beat Ultimate+ fights is because they have full synergy 7* equipment with 5 SSBs on the best characters in the game
Keep showing how little you know about this game. It's amusing to see just how much shit can come out of a single retard.

>>145485465
It's Black to represent the Death of FF

>>145485995
By that logic, VI's cover should be half white and half black, and IX should also have some sort of split going on.

>the question of whether I want to upgrade my geomancers or do I grind the remaining 87 AP required to master the job.

>>145484267
>tfw my one 5* last lucky draw was for Exdeath

Made Kuja a joke at least

>>145486391
>not grinding in a JRPG

Like there's even a question.

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>>145486149

>>145486107
>i have good draws so everyone else is shit
fuck off you gem spender

>>145486598
>grinding in JRPGs
The only way to make almost any JRPG that isn't fucking ancient even remotely challenging is to not grind at all. Shitting on everything with zero effort isn't fun and spending hours just running back and forth without progressing is even less fun.

>>145486824
>pretending I said thinks I didn't
Most people who have played for a while have some good SBs assuming they haven't been completely retarded with their mythril spending. You really don't need crazy relics for most Ultimate+ fights.

>>145486203
IIRC VI is actually one of the only three FFs (VI, VII, and XV) that have prominent Amano art with black background.

>>145486852
He's doing FJF. 2/3rds of the runs you can get in that are literally grinding to the point your classes don't matter.

>>145487034
Maybe if you're bad

>>145487034
The person I was replying to was speaking of JRPGs as a whole.

>>145486852

what >>145487034 said

And honestly I don't need to master Geomancer, but my autism compels me to get the damage floor ignoring ability to make Exdeaths castle less of a pain in the ass.

>>145487012
>people who have played for a while
Yes people wgo have more mythril to pull on critical banners. You are confirming my statement

>>145487163
Nah it all depends on the jobs you get.

>>145486074
>Prompto was a fat nerd as a kid
Could he get any lamer?

>>145487551
Like what? Pretty sure the game's beatable at level 35 with any combination except stuff like four berserkers.

damn thats the first time ive got full medals on a ultimate. Now to try my luck with Caius.

>>145485406
Braska won't be on this banner. Praise be to Yevon.

But Arc and Hope will be, along with the shitter Tyro

>>145487635
imagine the stretch marks

>>145464328
http://youtu.be/cji-L0hu1Io

Brotherhood ep2 is out. Featuring Gentiana, Noctis' harem and Prompto losing all his spaghetti near Noctis and getting /fit/.

>>145488049
Boys don't get those.

>>145488018
Do those two already have 5* SMN in global?

>>145488198
They can if they /fit/ enough.

Melusine is actually kind of a bitch for low offense parties.

How the fuck do I beat Deathguise or whatever in the event if he keeps using death?

>>145488198
Are you that ignorant or just plain stupid?

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>>145488105

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>>145487635
>have 2 female friends that like FF
>both looking forward to XV
>both love Promto because he's some geeky/nerdy loser
>both have friendzoned me for being some geeky/nerdy loser

>>145489404
Flat as fuck

>>145489404
Gentania is flat!

______FLAT!!!!!______

>>145489308
I can think of at least 3 differences between you and Prompto

>>145489775
With one of them being my name not sounding like the word that comes up when asked to input something? Also, fuck off.

>>145487436
What point? That you need 7* equipment and top tier SBs? Because that's not what I said at all. You don't need any of that shit: just a handful of decent SBs and a few honed essential abilities is all it takes or alternatively just good hones. You're greatly exaggerating how demanding the average Ultimate+ fight is, but then again you are clueless and clearly suck at this game (which is pretty sad considering it's a casual mobile game) so it's not surprising. Shitters always like to blame their lack of success on everyone but themselves.

>>145489308
2d vs. 3d

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>>145489404
Calling it now. She is going to be the best girl of XV, and the one that is snubbed the most. The pic related of XV, if you will.

>>145489775
>>145489931
Prompto's name really is complete shit tier to be honest. Sounds like a cooky name for a pizza delivery place with "prompt" delivery.

Prompto's Pizza.

FFXV Gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfBpNoheWIo

>>145488913
wait what
NO WAY
NO FUCKING WAY

>>145490938
Yeah dude.
Prompto was a fat kid.

>>145490847
>Japanese
dropped

>>145490363
All of the XV names are pretty shit tier desu

>>145491015
it's in english
>gamespot

>>145491143
DROPPED

>>145491003
I like these, really like how they use this to expand on character backstories, also like how this actually shows more of that "Prompro likes to take pictures" part that they have been talking about recently

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>>145491367

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>all these faggots whining about the fact that they'll probably get a guy's relic on Summoner and praying intensely for more disgusting waifufagging

Fucking suck it up and be thankful if you don't fucking blank another lucky draw. I'd gladly take your "shitty" luck if all of you are going to draw some guy's relic instead of your fucking waifus.

>>145491418
I like these, really like how they use this to expand on character backstores except when its about prompto because he's a dumpster character that can fuck off from the game for all I care

Ignis and Gladio WHEN?

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>>145490847
Tabata is drunk or he didn't sleep?

>>145492014
every day i come home and my developer gives me this fucking face

Got Serah's Glove, 2 Gold Bangles, 2 Airwings or whatever that rod is called and one Glaive.

Still, I have to control myself not to burn another 11x pull for the BSB. HELP.

>>145492014
high af

>>145491808
>Prompto
>bad
Come on anon, the group balances great with him, you got the MC that's kinda shy and quiet, the serious guy, the "old one" that's kinda laid back but also serious and the goofy, funny guy

>>145492117
Also, Hope's boomerang. That's in two 11x's.

>>145492117
I have a friend who spent 350 mythril so far trying to get Light's BSB. He's gotten 6 Airwings, 3 gold bangles and three of Fang's or whatever the spear is.

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>>145492326
Oh wow, I'd better hold on to my mythril then.

>>145492117
I got 2 5* from each banner from approx. 15 draws on each. That's pretty good for my luck.

>>145492326
1st banner spear is meh, 2nd banner spear is good.

Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.

>>145492117
Take it and run. I've had 3 Airwings and 3 Glaives and Serah's gloves myself.

Not that I'll complain about getting relics for characters I like but I don't want to be drawing for something really specific when almost all the relics on the banner would be dupes for me.

>>145491808
Ep 3 will be focused on Ignis and 4 on Gladio.

https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=RUJL79RwPUg
https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=RUJL79RwPUg
https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=RUJL79RwPUg

LIVE
I
V
E

get in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUJL79RwPUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUJL79RwPUg

>customize the battle system

he's using the PC build of the game.

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Team so far.

I've been working on leveling the lifesiphons and curaja, as well as trying to level up shellga/protectga now that I have them.

I can do everything that isn't a ++ on a daily or a + on a special event, because I haven't tried those yet. I feel + daily gives me enough of a challenge right now and my hones are not good enough to keep me in the fight in the RM2 areas. Will post roster and relics in the next screenshots. Any advice is appreciated.

>>145491770
>he doesn't know about qt keeper
>he doesn't know that male relics are essentially generic RS equips and nothing more

FFXV PC >> FFXV Console confirmed

Holyshit

>>145493107
work on getting record materia
Certain ones will boost your strength greatly.

>tfw XV is going to have beyond terrible combat, but will wind up having a pretty decent world experience

for some reason i thought tornado strike was lightning damage

>>145493107
I can do ++ dailies and I am struggling to find a reason to continue spending 10 extra stamina for basically no difference in orb drops over +, even from magic jars. Even during x2 gysahl green times its questionable whether the increased greens in ++ make up for costing an extra half the stamina I'd need to do another + instead.

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>leading edge
What did he mean by this?

>>145493729
Bad translation of cutting edge probably

>very intuitive system
Didn't stop Matt's embarrassing performance yesterday.

The gameplay is pretty good.

>>145493780
>XV
>cutting edge combat
yikes

>>145493107
>>145493238
>>145493632
This is the relic selection I have, as well as the characters. There's a fuckton of Lv1s, kek

http://imgur.com/a/0hzRj

I'll look up into which RMs to get, if they're in the pastebin. Unless they're not, in which case please tell me which ones I should keep an eye for.

>>145493729
This >>145493780 and also some of the shallowest, cockiest PR I've ever seen.

>>145491770

Braska ain't exactly that interesting of a person, Nobody would complain if he was replaced by Jecht.

>magic customization

>>145493931
Isn't that rod Vanille's that you have two of? Why not upgrade that shit to 6* and use her?

i would let my car get repaired by cidney if you know what i mean

>>145493931
I don't have half as much shit as you do and I can do ++ dailies and ++/+++ event stuff. It just looks like you really need to stop slacking off during sundaily and get some caps broken.

For RMs you want significant damage increases, Hastes or delay removers, Double ability chances or Start with SB charge.

>>145494041
He was. According to Yunalesca, the Fayth for the Final Summoning and the Summoner fuse together to form the Final Aeon, thus the need for a special bond etc. etc., but Braska is just... gone. No remnants of him in Sin, no remnants of him in the Final Aeon.

>>145494193
I'd let her change my oil.

>>145489404
how do you even pronounce her name?

>>145494193
It'd let her handle my muffler if you catch my drift.

>>145494190
That's the generic rod.

Vanille's is pink, of course. And it's the worse of her two Medica SBs too.

>>145494318
Gen-it-alia

THE SUMMON BLOW EVERYTHING


MYDICK

>>145494457
you know what the fuck i mean

>>145494318
Kyoo-tee-pye

>>145493134
Whatever lets you get more upset at getting relics.

Stay disgusting, waifufag.

Titan summon was amazing

>>145494558
It's geh, not jen.

What do you guys think of how they implemented Wait mode?

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>Wait mode
>In an action game

>wait mode
Literally the usual "Pause"

>>145494696
How many times can you watch it when actually playing the game before it isn't anymore? Because it's something you watch, it's not gameplay.

Wait mode is for casual.

>>145494791
>What do you guys think of how they implemented Wait mode?
It's weird but I can see how casuals would like it.

>>145494795
>>145494830
It's literally totally optional.

there is something important tomorrow? What did he say?

>>145492221
Not him, but Prompt is a fucking twink faggot. Completely untolareble. The character trait you describe could balance the group nicely, true, but not with him.

>>145494795
>>145494830
>>145495041
I find it reminiscent of Baldur's Gate or Dragon Age's tactical pause where you can still input actions, not a literal pause.

>>145495170
Transistor basically achieved perfection in terms of what you're going for with that.

>>145495041
That doesn't stop it from being stupid.

>>145495170
>Dragon Age
Works for it because it's a slower game and controlling partner actions needs more care.

https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=RUJL79RwPUg

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Difficulty settings and you can turn off the annoying hud

>>145493107
I think I helped you a bit already some threads ago with that team setup.

R2 is quite enough of Shellga/Protectga.
R4 recommended for Power and Magic Breakdown.
R2+ for Armor and Mental, I have them on R3 and they will be used in Support Nightmare, but aside from that the last time I used them was during Tactics where they were medal conditions. Not to mention that Irvine's SB applies these anyway.

RMs that you should aim for:
Tyro and Cloud RM3s are your top priority, they do the same thing, you enter the dungeon with 1 SB bar. You should use them on Aerith and Basch.
DK Cecil RM3 and Beatrix RM2: both are after lvl 65, they improve DAMAGE dealt with sword by 20%. In your case with Planet Protector and Apoc Shield you will be always around the soft cap for ATK so these will give you the most damage.
Sephiroth RM after MCII: 20% DMG up with Katanas.
Locke RM after MCII: 20% DMG up with daggers.
Edgar RM after MCII: 20% DMG up with spears.
Black Mage RM2: Restore 1 Black magic per battle. (If both slots are BLK Magic then both get restored.)
Summoner RM2: Same with Summons.

Aim to make Ruinga R3+. If you have 280 MAG on your mage you can one hit kill everything in the ++ dungeons.
You could make an R2 Ruinga to clear the first battle and use a Cloud BSB RW to clear with the 1st command AoE to clear the remaining battles.

>>145496403
>text
>difficulty
>voice
>sensitivity

PC version confirmed.

>>145496418
Fusoya is strictly better than BLM RM2 by the way.

Generic Core White Mage is also worth mentioning since it does what BLM does but for WHM obviously, but Fusoya also takes care of that.

>>145496403
>guide
I really hope that means stuff like button prompts and the Warp Strike text.

>>145496493
How?

>>145496796
Console games don't have options like that. Ever.

>>145496493
? he is using the PC build of the game with console setting there.

>>145496827
The fact this has already been posted and typical murican box art being bad has been discussed aside, please take a look at the size of the sword on the left, which is currently being held aloft with ONE ARM, tilted upwards and behind someones back in probably the worst balanced way it could be.

That sword must be weightless plastic.

>>145496846
Imagine playing PC for so long you forget console games have options and settings

>>145496846
Uh, yes they do?

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>>145496846
>console games don't have language, difficulty and camera settings
Bloodborne has 3 of those things.

>>145497089
>>145497272
>>145497286
No seriously, name an existing console game with all those options. Some definitely have a few, but none have all.

>>145497073
it's another attempt to make Cloud

>>145497356
Don't forget,

Final Fantasy XV is LEADING EDGE...

>Road Trip
>Adventure
>Combat
>OPTIONS

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>>145496228
>it's the usual gameplay trailer
>it's the usual ROAD TRIP TRAILER
>It's the usual running in the fiel

Fuck tabata. I want to see towns, cities, dungeon etc

>>145497557
He can't show you what doesn't exist

>>145494237

Not quite, The summoner merely summons the final aeon and then orders said aeon to trash sin. Anima was one such Aeon.

Once the Aeon is done with Sin the Aeon get's possessed by yu yevon and then the summoner has a 1 on 1 encounter with his own aeon now boosted by an eldritch being. Up until Yuna, most summoners who resort to such methods simply accept their fate and move on. Having completed their "Noble Goal" of defeating sin and starting a new cycle.

>>145496418
>Black Mage RM2: Restore 1 Black magic per battle. (If both slots are BLK Magic then both get restored.)
Honestly, you're better off just getting Rinoa's Witch RM.
20% increase to black mage spell damage is a little more worth it than an extra charge on every battle unless it's one of those annoying missions with like 5 or 6 battles before the boss.

>>145497557
Showing summon animations that look impressive if you only see them once as opposed to constantly during gameplay, assuming the mechanic is even worthwhile to use against many enemies/bosses and for a signifcant amount of the game, is way better trailer bait, though.

>>145494041
>>145494237
Yunalesca never said anything about the Summoner fusing with the Final Summoning. The summon gains power from the bond with the summoner. So if the Fayth for that summon is someone who had a personal relationship with the summoner, there's a very strong bond which makes the summon super-powerful. However it's only super-powerful for that particular summoner because of their personal relationship. Anima is Seymore's final summon, but not Yuna, so Anima is more powerful for Seymore than it is for Yuna because it's his mom. But Seymore decided not to fight Sin. The Magus Sisters were the final summon for that one summoner lady who challenges you during the game, I forget her name.

Also, just using the Final Summon doesn't kill the summoner, as evidenced by Seymore. After Sin is killed by a summon, Yu Yevon rips that summon away from the summoner to transform it into the next Sin. This process of having the summon ripped away (probably made worse by the strong bond of a final summon) is what kills the summoner.

>>145497715
The irony is that Yuna's Anima is leagues stronger than Seymour's

Final Fantasy XV is “Leading Edge,” not just in technology, but also within the RPG genre.
This is expressed in three aspects: Road Trip, Adventure and Combat.
The video below is from the most recent development build of the game on PC.
As soon as a small cutscene is over, at the beginning, you’re immediately free to explore. The idea is for the game not to feel linear.
Even if the game is single player, it’s designed so that your companions feel like living and breathing beings.
Due to the day/night cycle, the player is prompted to do different things at different times of the day.
You can upload pictures taken by Prompto to social networks. Prompto loves to take pictures as often as possible.
You get access to the Regalia (Noctis’ car) very soon. You can drive manually or just set the destination and enjoy the scenery.
The combat feels very visceral and physical compared to older Final Fantasy games.
There are many different kinds of spaces in which you can fight.
The combat system is very intuitive and natural.
There are three main buttons used in combat: attack, defense, and warp.
Even in combat, you almost feel like it’s a co-op games, with your companions fighting alongside you. You can also give instructions to them to use specific techniques.
You can use the energy from the environment and synthetize it into magical energy.
You can customuze your abilities quite finely. For instance you can give your fire magic the ability to heal as well. You can add a lot of variation to the basic elements, fire, cold and electricity.
Many gave feedback to the Episode Duscae demo, mentioning that they want a more tactical gameplay style. There is an optional system for those players (shown in the video at 54:30).
In previous Final Fantasy games you had the active mode and wait mode. The same system returns in Final Fantasy XV. When you’re into wait mode the game waits automatically when you stop inputting commands.

>>145497715

>TFW Want to see an animation of Braska's Final Aeon being summoned against Sin and seeing the absolute devastation of everything around as they brawl.

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>>145497356
I'm confident there will be a PC port years down the line, but you're being idiotic. As if having all of those options confirm it.

>text
Games offering more than one language aren't exclusive to PC games, wtf? Even handheld games can offer more than one language.
>difficulty
A lot of games? Tales games, other RPGs, shooters, and more...
>voice
That's for voice volume, hello? Not uncommon.
>sensitivity
Many games that use both analog sticks, mainly shooters always have sensitivity settings.

>>145496493
difficulty settings were confirmed months ago

French and German voice dubs were confirmed. The Euro version will have to have both along with English. NA and JP versions will probably have dual audio like Duscae.

Same for text.

Camera sensitivity is normal for a real-time games. Didn't Duscae have those settings?

>>145497356
A lot have them, just not in one menu all at once but separated like Audio, Game, Display and the like.
You would have a point there was a screen resolution option.

>>145498134
>I'm confident there will be a PC port years down the line
Final Fantasy XII Zodiac should be first. XV 3/4 years later.

>>145498134
>>145498185

Nono, I meant all the options in that pic. The ones I mentioned were just the major ones.

That level of customization just doesn't exist in console games.

>>145464840

So exactly like FFVII, one of the most popular video games of all time?

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Eternal reminder that XIII and Lightning are the best things Square have ever created.

How do you pronounce "Krille"?

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>>145498452
So perfect.

>>145498452
XIII is alright, but Lightning is an abomination.

>>145465042

Gaming is a medium nobody in real life actually cares about and "game journalists" are bloggers who are given enough TLC by the internet to be deluded into thinking they're the next Ebert and Roeper. It's like the equivalent of thinking you're a ladies' man because your babysitter jacked you off as a kid.

>>145498005
"We want the Xenoblade audience, please, please god I don't know how to make a Final Fantasy game, just please buy this Xenoblade rip-off so I can keep my job."

>>145498532
Cry-ill

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>>145498005
>You get access to the Regalia (Noctis’ car) very soon. You can drive manually or just set the destination and enjoy the scenery.
so this will be TLoZ: The Wind Waker all over again?

>Even in combat, you almost feel like it’s a co-op games, with your companions fighting alongside you. You can also give instructions to them to use specific techniques.
they are going to use an upgraded partner system from Kingdom Hearts?

>You can use the energy from the environment and synthetize it into magical energy.
oh god no! not the extraction system from VIII again, please no

the rest sounds fine I guess