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Cookie cutter builds:
>Consult thread before using
http://pastebin.com/zfAghE2H

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Can I play the game now?
New players are restricted :
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=430

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
cute (Hiraku)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
NiceBoat (Tello)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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>>145329818
Prev: >>145275643
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L E W D
E
W
D
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I LOVE TALT.
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4th for Doppel best DPS in the game.
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>>145329852
CUTE
THAUMS
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>>145330010
Lewd is forbidden and illegal and wrong and a sin and very bad and you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Uhmmm
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>>145329818
Lewd has been theoretically proven to equal cute. Cute is lewd and lewd is cute.

Lewd is accepted as it was one of its founding principles of this general.

You cannot deny the facts or the proof.

Lewd is here to stay as long as there is cute.
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Lewd OUT!
Cute IN!
Boys OUT!
Girls IN!
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8 levels to go until retirement!
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>>145330380
No. Lewd != cute.
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>>145330380
WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!!
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What is the real excuse for why they dont just synchronize the patches? This happens in literally every Korean game.

Somebody joked that they code in different languages
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>>145330596
Pure laziness, lack of empathy inherent among most asians, and most importantly no publisher to light a fire under their asses to get work done like they have in Korea.
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>>145330596
Because something working in Korean version doesn't mean it will work here for various reason.
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>>145330596
Why bother patching when it's a broken mess? Let kTOS test stuff before we transfer them over so we'll just copy paste it.

t. STAFF_MAX
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>>145330791
but isnt it more work to have itos running on a lower version? It's like running windows vista vs windows 7.

Isn't it just easier to copy paste?
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Who is the cutest goy!
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Is Lolinyaa here?
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>Sleeping gas gives your character a retarded face

Pretty funny that the face still stays after sleep is gone
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>>145330863
>Let kTOS test stuff
Oh my god you actually typed that like you believed it.

Like they're just testing it in the korean game because we're the customers who matter or something, right?
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Some skills have been rebalanced in PvP :
Warlock
- Pole of Agony:
- Damage has been reduced by 50%
- Dark Theurge:
- Damage has been reduced by 50%

RIP
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11347877.23354552.15243541.152535.112e3f5a65.152535

Thoughts on this? I really really really want to play a cataphract with hook.
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>>145331109
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>>145330596
Remember when every patch IMC made broke all kinds of shit seemingly unrelated to the patch? They finally realized they couldn't patch without breaking the game.
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>>145331098
here's my retard
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>>145331108
Greetings Savior,

We value our customers from around the world.

Regards,
IMC Staff
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sup, /tosg/

If you play on Orsha, we can have a pre-maintenance meetup at Woods Of Linked Bridges, right at this cozy and comfy campfire! Channel 4, naturally.

See you Monday~
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New player restriction lifted soon! I can feel it! New [spoilers]boys[/spoilers]!
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>>145331109

Kek, Pixel of Agony was already lasting only half of the original time, now it basically does 1/4 of the damage it used to do before. Gravity pole already does less damage than lolipan, I think they finally managed to kill the kinolock omnipotence since even subzero was killed.
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Why are people selling lv 10 templeshooters so cheap? 80 talt is nothing.
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>>145331390
>boys
>not even using ctrl+s
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>>145331381
I'll be there if I remember!
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>>145331381
Orshabro here!

I wonder if we will at least see 5 people showing up ; __ ;
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>>145331563
They won't kill kino unless they nerf raise.
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>>145331581
Lack of market. There are only so many Sorcs and they only need 1-2 temple shooter ever.
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>>145330791
The contrary might also be true in that they are naive self-publishing amateurs with too much sense of guilt. They want to use kToS as testing grounds and wait for the "perfect" feedback before porting, and as such, end up doing nothing.

I'm basing this on the changes to the original EA plan to satisfy the whiners even though the game wasn't ready. Another attempt to make us "happy" was the token price decrease no one asked for.
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>>145331682
Nah, Raise is fine. Every time a kino casts it you can just Reversi it for a free AoE 10 second stun.
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Just got to Sadhu, my original plan was to go Sadhu C2>Druid but flying monsters are making me reconsider.
is it too late to go Bokor then Bokor circle 2 then PD? Will effigy do decent damage at this level until I get to PD?
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>>145331974
Sadhu2 is okay on flying mobs.
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I'm in a fortress!
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>Make wizard
>literally one skill
>long cooldown
>never have any mp

What am I doing wrong or why is Wiz so shitty?
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>>145331098
>>145331192
i can fap to this
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>>145331581
Buy mine then I need to get rid of some.
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>>145332056
You can just ALT A to remove interface, you know
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>>145332056
you call THAT a fort?
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>>145331956
>kino casts it on you
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>>145332114
My Chrono is not for lewding!
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>>145332106
It just is because you either go wiz1 or wiz3.

If you plan to go wiz3 don't spend on earthquake and energy bolt more than one point each. Save points then dump on magic missile and quickcast as soon as you hit rank 3.
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>>145332403
with your mindbreaked face it's now a lewd thing
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>>145332374
Positioning is part of the game, lad. Raise is point blank, if the kino is stupid enough to jump on your then have your team punish him.
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>>145329216
That's pretty neat anon, thanks for answering!
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>>145332114
Do not sexualize the revelator
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>>145332521
Yeah it's not like he'll be full con or anything.
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>>145332652
Retarded girls is my fetish
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>>145332489
Get out of my Christian game.
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>>145332228
TIL
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>>145332728
What about retarded boys?
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>>145331620

just keep an eye on the thread, we'll be stirring up some reminder posts well before hand.
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>>145332728
You are a sick man
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When do you guys want your hats?
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>>145329818
I need to know whose foot is that on the lower left corner now.
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>>145331956

>he does know about the kino 3 thauma 2
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>>145332728
Is it time for grown-up things?
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>>145333146
Pios!
Let's do it when a lot is online!

About 12:00 server time this coming hour perhaps?
Kateen Forest start for meet-up?
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>>145333146
Is it time for hats?!
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>>145333506
Everyone fine with this?
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>>145333648
i'm fine with it, i missed two hats last time
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>>145333146
What if I want you? When do I get that?
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>>145333648
12am server time today or tomorrow?
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Is worth going Swordie 3 for Shinobi? The stick says that Shinobi clones can only use Swordsman skills.

My idea is going Sword > Pelt > Sword 2 > Sword 3 > Hop > Hop 2 > Shinobi
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>>145333828
Think he meant 12 pm server time, so in one hour.
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>>145332467
Get at least 5 in Energy Bolt. It's useful in interrupting your enemy for 1 seconds when you are solo grinding in high level map such as storage.
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>>145333952
>is my cookie cutter build good
I hope colifly stamens are cheap in your server and that the yellow flower only needs 20 or so hours for you because otherwise enjoy suffering.

E.g. stamens are 20-30k here in varena each and you need 30 along with having stuck at the yellow petal for hours without success
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>>145333146
Would probably be better if it's tomorrow before maintenance. That's when people are usually online.
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My tosg guild is now full of normie and camping WB everyday.

Help me.
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>>145334020
Ok cool, I'll be there!
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>>145334156
Please tell me this guild is on Klaip so I can jump ship.
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>character keeps warping backward
>"oh, I guess I'm having shit ping, huh"
>//ping
>0.04
>0.06
>0.05
What.
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>>145334267
I-it's on the sea monkey server.
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>>145334298
Certain skills are buggy and do that after using them. Like Astral Body Explosion.
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>>145334335
Why can't the Klaipedo guilds be try hards like these guys. Goddamn casuals.
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>>145334413
Except this is on my new alt at level 21 and I was just running in crystal mine.
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>>145334091
Was thinking of doing this too, today might be too soon.

Okay tomorrow before maintenance it is.
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>>145334156
>tosg guild on varena
well post it so we can come
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>>145330195
But thats what made RO better. The doujins were pure gold.
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>>145334605
Mil is the only good RO doujinshi artist.
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>>145333146
Is it ok to come if I got hats before ?
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>>145334683
Sure I guess. Is there a limit on how many people can get hats?
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>>145334743
no limit, but it drops a number of hats equal to number of elligible players nearby. Sleek IMC coding doesnt equally distribute it to all players though, so some players get 0 hats, others get 4
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Where are the hat locations? Want to know if I can go there on my alt or not
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Finally over the exp wall on my 1st character. Hunter is really fun to level.
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>>145333146
Why the hell would you choose Scout2?
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>>145335112
Sapper outfit is cuteandlewd.
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>>145334882
Royal Maus 4F
Shaton Farm
Veja Ravine
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>>145335159
You can't get to Scout3 without Scout2.
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>>145335184
Sappers have one of the best costumes.
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>>145335239
Why the hell would you choose Scout 3?
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>>145335532
Free hats + Scout's lewd costume.
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>>145333146
>>145334879
>>145334882

What's this about free hats?
How do I get them?
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>>145335236
Thanks, just finished Shanton. I'll be able to go to every place.
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>>145335532
Scout 3 is fucking awesome.
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>>145335653
>scout use Scan at hidden hat chest location
>a chest appears
>scout open chest
>hats come out pouring
that's how I think?
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Greetings, Saviors.

Our PVP server for [EU] Fedimian went through some connection issues earlier and you may have been unable to access it. Connection was affected during the following time: from [EDT] 19:30 to 21:25, June 12 2016.

We would like to let you know that we have now restarted the server and connection has returned to normal. Thank you for your patience.

>Our PVP server
What.
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Volume curl is by far the sluttiest hairstyle in this game

also, any info on new top 50 minigamers? don't see many kinos anymore
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>>145335873
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=468
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>>145335873
Probably for that team battle minigame
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I was making an elememe and now I'm Wiz 3 but I decided I don't want to be party of the meme army.
What should I do with this character?
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>>145336224
It's not implemented yet.
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>there are people here that didn't know that pvp was enabled
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>>145336239
chrono rune caster warlock
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>>145336239
Thaum3 for even more Futureproofness. Then Warlock or Featherfoot.
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>>145336239

pyro 2/3 /linker/warlock
kino 3 warlock/ff
linker 1 necro 2 optional linker 2 or something else
cryo 3 rc madman
build of kings (pyro 1 kino 1 cryo 1 rc)
linker 1 sorcerer 2 warlock (legit as fuck)
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>>145336239
PK3 Featherfoot.
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>Orsha, the server nobody willingly went into, now has more player strain than Klaip or Telsiai

D E D
E
D
G A M E
A
M
E
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>tfw Mia rubs her feet on your crotch
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>>145336380
>>145336406
>>145336407
Is Featherfoot even worth playing? The skillset just sounds in every way worse than Warlock... what makes it any good?
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>>145336480
it will revive when they open the boarders
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>>145336616
It's currently a Special Bloody Snowflake until C2 proves to be worth it.
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>>145336616
Blood.
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>>145335532

Who knows, the split arrow meme could be real.
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>>145335985
What even is that image about? What is "succ"?
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>>145336616
It's inferior, but classes have been known to be redeemed by later circles.

Who knows what the lewd tattoo class will get. Meanwhile, niggapyros will only get more damage.
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>>145336616
Nothing, literally special snowflake class.
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>>145336849
negro twitter gibberish shit memes

see also: fuccboi, thicc
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>>145336798
Split Arrow isn't really what makes Scout c3 good. However, its synergy with rogue makes it amazing.
Capture your flare shot and just check out the amazing damage you can put out with that increased duration and double stacked flare shots.
Split Arrow is good for mobbing though, no doubt.
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>>145334586
I-it's not varena.
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Hats today or tomorrow during meetup?
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>>145336616

Damage is lower than lock, kinda demands linekr to works decently, still r7 tier when paired with qc and links, also, hp regen, good for soloing, as long as you spam alchemist sp potion, your HP will be fine
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Where did this shit drop, I can't remember. Need to craft shit and the mafia has edited tosbase.com again and took it out. Is it the flying nigger mobs in Roxona West? I can't just fucking remember man.
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>>145337150

Wait, then should I take Rogue C1 over Musketeer or Cannoneer?
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Newbie here..how good is diev anyway?
where to farm silver..since im pispoor.
and cant afford a good hat

pic related.
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>>145336864
>Who knows what the lewd tattoo class will get. Meanwhile, niggapyros will only get more damage.
Just you wait until Warlock 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cYTTC4YorM
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>>145337384
Foretress Battleground
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>>145337384
It doesn't drop in Evacuation District anymore.

THANK YOU IMC
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Can Pios wait another 10 minutes or so so that I can make it to the hat distribution party?
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>>145337458
>meme class thanks to that streamer
>vubbe fighter
>use goggles until lvl 280
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Hoplite3 or Hoplite2Cata
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>I have no friends in real life or in game.
>Always an outsider.
>I sit in town AFK while crying in real life because of how lonely I am.
>I ask people simply to click like as they pass by in the hope that it will somehow fill the empty void inside.
>I have almost 1 thousand likes but I would trade them all for one real friend.

t. like whore
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>>145333146
>>145333506
>>145333648
Let's do it!
KAteen forest now right?
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>>145337656
He moved it tomorrow's meetup.
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>>145337730
But putting in the work to actually talk to someone is too much work for you, right?
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>>145337458
Ay girl, you're cute.
Wanna have a good time? I'll tell you about Dievs.
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>>145337762
>>145337781
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Glackuman up ch3 klai
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We got duped!
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>>145337384
Keparis in Starving Demon Way
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>>145338080
>all the warlocks are now using ele outfits

YUSH MY JOB IN THIS GENERAL IS DONE
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>>145338080
He said tom. before maint. silly.
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>>145336480
What?
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>>145338080
Reddit hat stealers please go.
You guys don't even read the thread.
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>>145338202
Still not using ele outfit.
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I can understand futurepoop being dumb but why is cutenotlewd here too?
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>>145338463
For the prepremaintenance meetup
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>not kissing yourself softly

kyss
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>>145338583
Show me your socks you slut.
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>>145337440
That's totally up to you. It's a viable option.
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this general is so fucking gay

every time i come here i regret rolling a female character

should have rolled a fucking manly man

need to convince myself of my masculinity just in case you fags and your fagginess rubbed off on me
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Is the Rune Caster quest bugged or something? It's been a day and that whore Chronomancer master hasn't given me the rune yet.
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>>145339192
boys in this game all look and are little fuccbois
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>>145339192
So true, though, you wouldn't want to look up a man ass for an entire mmorpg game right?
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>>145339270
Boys are C U T E!
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>>145339192
>need to convince myself
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mfw starting Main chamber, who thought having multiple mobs that can chain freeze you was a good fucking idea?
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>>145337150
r8?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31148889.1a294a51.1545.15213f4f516385.152535
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>>145339192
>his masculinity is so fragile he can't maintain it on his own
Maybe you're a fag but you just don't know it. Because real men don't give a fuck if anything's "not manly enough" because they know it won't affect what defines them.
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>>145339385
Buy some dispellers.
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>>145339385
Thankfully it's only the first floor
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>>145339263
Have you tried the Orsha side Chronomancer?
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>mfw fighting will pick up again after almost a month of carebearness

Can't wait.
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glackuman up ch 1 klai
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>xp tomes cost 9 TP now

didn't these... use to be 8 just now or? Have I just been fucking seeing things?
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Why does my character is so weak!
I mean, I went for a Tank/Damage but still, in some evenst where mobs rush to you, I can only last a few minutes before they break through me, and I can't even do a proper damage output.
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>>145339512
>real manliness is never self-reflecting, worrying, or questioning anything ever

So a "real manly man" would maintain that he wasn't a fag even though he was wearing a dress and getting bred by ten guys with six foot dicks and subsisting solely on semen?

Seems pretty fucking stupid to me.
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>>145339784
Who cares, they're fucking useless. I hope you haven't been using them to grind truffles, etc. with them because if you have you basically just put your TP in the garbage.
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>>145339845
>Pelt 2 into Hop
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>>145339845
>leveled spirit
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>>145339490
Looks good. And remember, this build gives you every possible reason to ignore DEX.
It might seem useful while leveling and you might feel that your crit rate from the swift step buff is going to waste but you won't really need it or benefit much from it at endgame once you're fully geared.
Feint has you covered for accuracy and Sneak Hit has you covered for crits.
Can also get a sizeable chunk of crit from gear alone. Try to keep that in mind!
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>>145339845
you need con you slut also

>spr
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>>145339845
>10000 likes
sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
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>>145339910
That's not true. Every tome I've used increases the experience gain in the millions per hour. It's time saved.
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>>145339845
>Pelt2
>Stats
WORSE THAN KOENING
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>>145339845
>SPR
>Pelt 2
>No points in stabbing
Just reroll and save yourself the pain.
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>>145340061
I know! How dare a Pelt2 have stats?!
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>>145340057
Do I need to get shouting Saber figurine image man in here?

They don't do what it they say they do. You're that idiot who was always given the placebo while everyone else got acid.
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>>145339845
>Koenig's sister
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>>145339908
>just one minor aspect of life defines everything about you
That's why you're staying a faggy fuccboi.
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Playing since 12 of may may or close to that date. Got lucky and made +10 Grand Cross without failures.
Friend quits and gives the pistol right before I hit 170.
How much time it will take for me to get Didel if I never got lucky to roll a peta or arde.
And did anyone get lucky with running shot monster gem so far?
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wait, revenged sevenfold applies to the whole party?
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>>145339845
hoplite is boring weak garbage

if you want a fun "tank/dmg" build get pelt1barb3 instead
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>>145339845
Hoplite doesn't really do damage, it only gives you means for your later classes to do damage. Pelt has 0 damage output, so now you have no damage into no damage.

More Pelt doesn't make you more tank. More Pelt makes you slightly more useful.

How to fix your build: Pelt3Hop3. Then wait for Rank8.

Personally, I would reroll.
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>>145339534
>Thankfully it's only the first floor
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>>145338463
>The only person from CnL I care about isn't there
>Won't go either
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>>145340212
>DerpRage

I believe 9ga.g is that way >>>>>>
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>>145340212
>someone else named their pistol Meme-meme
that fucking memo though disgusting
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>>145340227
What about Pelt 3>Doppel?
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>>145340368
oh the fucking irony
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>>145339845
>pelt2
>stat
Are you Koenig's sister?
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>>145340189
Eh you don't understand. Tomes do save you time and money. TP is wasted when you buy 90x enchant scrolls and they ALL give you nothing! You're doing it wrong.

Only losers need cash shop revives.
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>>145339385
>tfw died three fucking times as a cleric
on that day i learned to switch fucking channels whenever i got frozen by those cunts
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>>145340161
You aren't getting it
Your stats distribution is just terrible
Literally Koening 2.0
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Is lv10 Fire Pillar worth it or is lv5 enough?
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>a new Koenig appears
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>>145340336
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>>145339845
If it makes you feel any better, you're not the only one with a weird build.
leveling this hasn't been that bad to be honest.
I'm planning on maybe doing highlander c2 into doppel
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Fucking normies there've been 2 other stat retards browse the general more
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Why do people do this? Is it fun to be going around the area, provoke and then hold fucking C for 10 minutes?

This guy had 0 damage output and almost died multiple times because he refuses use my heal unless his HP is like, 300 or something and would rather use his own potions instead
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>>145339845
my daughter you are now the new koening congratulations enjoy your new slutty life full of bullying
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>>145340371
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>>145340651
>tfw no one calls it "pulling a lolipantsu" anymore
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>so many new Koenigs
>one of them is my fetish Thighlander
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>>145339845
learning disability
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>>145340749
because they're brain dead

>>145340781
lolipan beta orbiters have died out thank god
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>>145340371
Bad idea
You know how to save an Hoplite3?
Dragoon or Shinobi
But your stats distribution already made it beyond repair
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>>145340718
>>145339845
Didn't attach the correct image.
Should have been this.
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what the fuck this fucking build then
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/tr4jt1qyf6/
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>>145340896
Have a guide to tosbase
the longer the page
the worse the build
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>>145340879
The beta orbiters of that mediocre monk are far worse
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What then? I should build a Monk or Chaplain?
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>>145341050
Chaplain.
Never a monk.
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>>145339845
Post your skills for Pelt. I bet you killed your build by maxing out Guardian and High Guard. I bet 1000 talts you did.
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>>145340749
Looks like ET build to me.
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>people hate on monks
>everytime I get paired with one is Siauliai the mission goes twice as fast

???
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WTF THIS GAME

I CAN MAKE GHOSTS BLEED WITH CROSSCUT BUT FUCKING RUBABOS ARE IMMUNE TO IT

THEY ARE MAMMALS
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>>145341086
The guide says to max High Guard, but only gives 1 point to Guardian
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>>145340212
You will NEVER get it.

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4196&category=%EC%BF%BC%EB%A0%90%EC%8A%88%ED%84%B0&l=74892

This korean is up to hundreds of boxes and 47m in rerolls.

QS3, never ever.
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>>145341005
>giant douche is better than turd sandwich
what matters is there are less shitters
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>>145341131
Competent monks are rare. Good monks are even more rare.
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>>145341131
Not because of the monks, to be sure. It's not like they have anything in their kit that's inherently good.
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>>145341208
>there are less shitters
No?
We have more every day, like idiots just theorycrafting or posting tosbase links
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>>145341131
Monks aren't bad for missions if a wiz uses lethargy.
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>>145341131
Yeah I love monks in missions desu

things I absolutely despise in my missions

>tanks
>full healers
>FUCKING ALCHEMISTS
>pvp builds
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>>145340749
Because Plet3Squire3 is the theorycrafted "ET tank"
Which on paper is correct but in practice it just got proved less than a week ago ET 1-20 can be cleared withour any swordman in the party and Peltasta1 has the same taunting power of Peltasta3 if you swashbuckl and move around with the buff a little instead of sitting and holding C, Peltasta1Cata is the best tank in the game because this
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>>145341510
>this meme again
because very team is going to have that perfect comp like the koreans and abuse invincibility right?
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/exploiting-the-fact-that-imc-allows-players-to-set-up-shop-on-statues/247080/21
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People forget that Squires have a food buff that gives 40% more health.
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I'm not having fun with my Hop2>Cor1 build. I'm envious of archers and mages doing insane outputs while I just stand there and draw bosses aggro. Will my dps improve on Cor 2 (DWA) or on Shinobi? Or should I just join the meme and make an archer now?
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>>145341615
about the team composition? you are right
About Peltasta3? Peltasta1 can get you in high floors just as a Peltasta3
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>>145341705
huge lack of swordies in this game right now as long as you're pelt1 you're assured a spot to 280.
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>>145341705
A Swordsman's DPS will NEVER EVER compare to that of a Wizard or Archer. Even Clerics can out-DPS you. Swordsman DPS circles are exclusively PvP, because they do enough burst damage to kill a player, but not any monster above 220.

Even if we get all of the kTOS changes, that fact doesn't change.
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>>145340212
>>145341207
Don't give up, I actually got one! On my Warlock...
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>>145341918
>A Swordsman's DPS will NEVER EVER compare to that of a Wizard or Archer
>what is Doppel C2
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>>145341993
Got it on my Druid!
Not even planning to make a QS3 EVER!
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>>145342013
If you can get your Valor stack to 10 without dying too fast, sure.
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This kills the Elememe.
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>>145341993
>>145342103
m-maybe IMC will make untradeable items tradeable between account characters
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>>145342174
Doppel new DPS meta, every elementalist is rerolling!
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>>145342013
Again with this meme. You never get 10 full stacks of Deeds of Valor. Expecting to get hit 10 times, build up 10 Warcry stacks, getting 20 charges of Frenzy, and still unleashing 2 Cyclones is delusional. No matter the order, your buff will be running out first, and the Eleme is already placing his second Frostcloud.

I like swordsmen, and I really want to like Doppelsoeldners, but this is a delusion.
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>>145342175
That would kill the purpose of high level untradable things
Making you rolling alts
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>>145341174
Just think of them as having quick coagulation agents.
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>>145342174
>falseflaggers are this mad doppelmemes can outdamage elememe in super specific scenarios
why are elememe so insecure about themselves?
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>>145342294
>get really good thing you can't use
>untradeable, even within acc
>let it rot and despair

>get really good thing you can't use
>untradeable, but okay within acc
>create alts
>repeat
>more TP being bought to buy slots

It's like IMC hate money or something
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>>145342174
Is there any build that can out-dps doppelsoeldner? And I'm not talking about c2 doppelsoeldner. I'm not talking about doppel2 with 10 deeds of valor stacks either. Hell, I'm not even talking about doppel2 with gung ho, frenzy, concentrate, warcry and 10 deeds stacks.

I'm talking about ktos full str sword2barb3doppel2 with max gung ho, concentrate, warcry, and frenzy with max attributes and monster gems, 10 deeds of valor stacks, 2 sissel bracelets, max petamion, full lolopanther plate, +15 lolopanther 2H sword with level 10 crit attack gems, squire weapon maintenance and consumed alchemist level 10 critical attack potion, with full dex linker3 slave plus spiritual link to share QS3 level 8 running shot as well as thaum3 slave with max swell attributes and chrono3 slave with pass while casting cyclone with 100% attribute.
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>>145342473
reminder they are killing the game on purpose to move onto their next game
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>>145335112
From the last thread.
Hunter doesn't need 2 single target disable skills. Retrieve is good enough, coursing should be made a DOT type skill like snatching that you can use on bosses. It makes no sense to have 2 skills that are practically exactly the same that doesn't work on bosses.

I would even forego the crit bonus as long as they made it a DOT usable on ground bosses. Rush dog being the only skill makes it extremely annoying to fight ground bosses.

Like the other anon said, praise is really bad. You want to be using rush dog to engage mobs before skills so you don't need the movespeed. I honestly don't see how they'll be able to improve it in the future. If they made the stat pain a percentage bonus, it'll be OP when you invest in pet stats, and a flat bonus will never scale well.

They just need to give hunter back their auto-rushdog and all will be fine.
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>>145342497
C3 Doppel
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I'm gonna do it!
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>>145341705

>dwa

DWA sux, but you'll get a bonner the first time you use Spear lunge + HEXEN DROPER
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>>145342540
What?
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>>145342524
>here's a proven list of what we should do to get more money and also make our customers happy
>lol fuck that let's just do what I said
I swear Asian CEOs are the worst offenders when it comes to business growth.
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>Current year
>STILL can't give your character a beard or Moustache of Authority
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>>145342719
>beard
>on fuccbois
k
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>>145335112
>>145315167
>Snatching 7 is enough, everything dies before the duration is over, and it matches the cooldown duration.
Oh yea most importantly this is so wrong. You want at least 12/13 snatching to match the CD with the attribute on, the full uptime is for flying bosses, you already suck at ground bosses why would you not take the only skill that makes hunter completely OP against flying bosses?

Snatching 7 doesn't even match the CD unless you're not using the attribute. What are you even doing using snatching without the attribute?
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How can I save my swordie 2 hop 2?
It's lv99 and I wouldn't mind re rolling but would like to know it's options other than demise
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>>145342719
>kr fuckboys
>beard
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>>145342719
>they implement facial hair into the game
>all the Daddy roleplay that takes place in the general afterwards

Maybe it's a good thing.
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>>145342525
I wanna say a DoT would be good, maybe drop the crit to 15-30%. Personally think it should, like snatching does, lock the boss in place, but that can go too if it meant being usable on bosses.

As for rush/praise, Rush is mostly fine, think it should have its SP cost lowered for how low its CD/dmg is, its what, 65~70 SP every 6 seconds, and that's our only damage source for ground bosses. That shit's insane for archer SP even assuming it never bugs and always hits.
Praise could be good if it had a higher value or pet stats meant a damn thing to begin with, as is its tied with pointing, either 1 point or no point at all.
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>>145342719

that's why I don't play boys
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>>145342846
>D-Do I have to suck on THAT to get my exp cards!?
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>>145342497

underrated post
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>>145342796

You can kill hop 3 from the meme build (sword 1 pelt 1 hop 3 doppel dragoon) with peltasta 1.

so, sword 2, hop 2, pelt 1, doppelgoon.

you're trading 50 critrate from finestra and 5 points of stabbing and spear throw for restrain 5, not THAT bad.

it's bad, but not the end of the world.
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>>145342524
well their investors already pulled out of ToS, its literally a sinking ship
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>>145342550
Is it more boner inducing than Spear lunge + Stabbing?
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>>145342497
Made me laugh.

>>145342525
Currently, Rush Dog is the only skill that uses the pet's stats. Everything else is performed by the pet, but uses the Hunter's stats. This is obviously wrong and will be changed again in the future. Those skills weren't supposed to do damage, they were (lazily) changed to become damage skills for kTOS OBT.

My guess is that they'll nerf the skill's direct damage, while making them work based on both the Hunter and the Companion's stats. That's why I levelled Praise. However, I doubt Hunter will see ANY changes of any sort until they release the final version of the pet system.

The same patch will probably massively improve Falconers. I'd expect the Hawk to become vulnerable, in exchange for it being able to attack on it's own, and naturally, it's stats will influence Falconer skills, making their damage go way up. It doesn't make sense they made Falconer a DPS class while giving them no damage output.

>>145342791
So far I am not having problems. Still using the Savage bow with +2 Hunter skills, so that helps a little. I go around Retrieving monsters one by one, using Multishot 10 when that's on cooldown, and Snatching on flying monsters when there are any.

I may run into problems later, but so far I am okay. Things will take longer to kill, so Retrieving's duration will match the cooldown the more I level up. And my 18 second Snatching is obviously more than enough for anything that isn't a dungeon boss.
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>>145342695
Anon you need to understand their mindset.
Currently they're delusional enough to think that if they iron out the faults (e.g. testing shit at korea first) in the game whilst restricting new players, when they reopen that players will flock in to the new and improved game.

Unfortunately what they don't understand is that between steam score, community shitposting, hype dying down and overwatch/other games coming out that even IF and thats a big if they "fix" the game, new players will barely come at all.

They've also just learnt not to listen to retarded customers (e.g. the barb and highlander nerfs or teh doppel nerfs).
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>>145342845
Yea I agree with rushdog's SP. I just leave it at 1 cause the damage sucks even maxed out to 15. It doesn't help on ground bosses at all cause the damage falls off hard, you're better off just spamming 50%+ enhanced oblique or heavy shot.

Honestly I think they should make rushdog scale with player stats. No skill should scale with pet stats since it all sucks and in theory you could dump silver infinitely to make the pet extremely OP which is also retarded balance. Pet stats should just be left to the pet's auto attack, which no one cares or just remove pet stats completely.
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>>145343018
I didn't take restrain
Reroll I guess, not gonna buy a skill reset
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>>145343049
The thing is one of the big investors is not doing great to begin with so they sold shares, including IMC, to stay afloat.
Not saying IMC is doing great but there's more to the story than just "IMC is sinking" alone.
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Which is better for a Schwarze2, Archer 2 or Archer 1 > Ranger 1?
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>>145343280
Maybe the REASON that one of the big investors is sinking is because of IMC.
I mean they had 40% shares of IMC and that must've cost a ton only to have those shares crash and burn due to IMCompetency.
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>>145343142
I dont necessarily mind it scaling with pet stats, i mind that it does when the pets stats absolutely suck and having to drop silver for a SINGLE point increase is awful. If it was +10-20 or more per bought increase it wouldnt be so bad to invest into the pet, along with equipment later on down the line which i would hope gives good stats, i could see rush sclaing quite well later. As is, its just not worth it at all to invest money into the pet or the attribute to keep it relevant, just costs way too much.
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>>145343129
>Currently, Rush Dog is the only skill that uses the pet's stats. Everything else is performed by the pet, but uses the Hunter's stats. This is obviously wrong and will be changed again in the future.
This is horribly wrong. Pet stats is everything wrong with rushdog. Player skills should be based on player stats, even if it's hunter based using your pet. Hunter and falconer shouldn't be the only class relying on dumping a fuckton of silver into your pet to do anything worthwhile. Making hunter skills based on player stats was the only right thing they were doing with hunter.

Falconer attack skills based on pet stats suck as well. You're horrible for asking skills to be made based on pet stats. It's horrible idea for balance, you either do shit for damage with no silver investment or you're fucking rich and you dump a ton of money into your pet and be completely OP. It's fucking stupid. Skills of ANY KIND should always be based on player stats.

Like I said, you max out snatching for full uptime on flying bosses. It's your only good skill in the entire class, giving it a mediocre level is just fucking stupid. Yea it's enough on mobs, but that's not why you max it out.

You have the entirely wrong mindset for playing your hunter.
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Can anyone suggest me a good non-fletcher build with respectable single target/aoe damage ? Maybe something to do with cannoneer
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Is Hop1>Pelt3>Dopp2 any good?
>>
WHEN THE FUCK IS THE SOURCE CODE GOING TO BE LEAKED
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>>145343412
Big companies rarely invest in just one thing, m8. If any company did that they're literally retarded and shouldn't do business to begin with.
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>>145341510
>Peltasta1 has the same taunting power of Peltasta3 if you swashbuckl and move around with the buff a little instead of sitting and holding C
No, it doesn't. Peltasta3 can hold the aggro of, what, 10 more enemies?

Swashbuckling has two lines. The first number is the number of enemies it taunts. The second number is the number of additional enemies the Swashbuckling buff the Peltasta recieves allows them to hold aggro on.
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>>145343509
absolute irredeemable garbage
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> be in Varena
> be swordie C3>Pelt1>Corsair2
> be ready for R7

I could either:

> go corsair3 for maximum shekels
> go naruto and be a burst god
> go templar and make my own cute varena harem

It's always so hard to choose....
help me /tosg/
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>>145343509
"Absolutely pointless" tier.
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>>145343529
Yes but they invested HEAVILY into IMC.
40% shares is pretty heavy and those shares crash and burned.
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>>145342497
You forgot the tengen toppa gurren lagan attribute and kamen rider mask hair costume. Albeit, reddit/10.
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>>145343631

Just be the templar varena needs already and stop all these f2poor pinoy from complaining on tosg about the lack of templars in their server.
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>>145341510
>Peltasta1 has the same taunting power of Peltasta3 if you swashbuck
It doesn't, though. This isn't even a matter of whether Pelt3 is necessary or not, this is just wrong.
Swashbuckling 5 has 11 targets for the debuff, and a limit increase on provocation/aggro of +10 for 30 seconds. Swashbuckling 15 has 21 targets for the debuff and a limit increase on provocation/aggro of +30 for 30 seconds.
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>>145340821
Why is james bond so sweaty?
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>>145343631
>naruto without pierce damage debuff
>burst god
>>
So, is Wiz3>Elem a good choice?
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>>145343631
>not being the tosg certified varena guild
this is your chance anon.

Corsair 3 is only if you're really into grinding/farming through since the silver gain is still just as garbage (barely 100-150k an hour) and you're mostly reliant on rare materials to sell.

If you're going shinobi than enjoy the 30 colifly stamen at 30k each as well as the yellow flower hunt
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>>145343801
Is breathing a good choice to stay alive?
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>>145343801
Nah its a garbage meme build that is oversaturated
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>>145343506
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#313331ef.1a23354a5161.1f2f3147516175.112135.11213145
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>>145343127

Way more. Hexen is one of the strongest burst damage in the game right now.
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>all this talk about pets

What, falconer skills depends on bird stats?
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>>145343891
I want to add that this build is painful to level if you're undergeared. Not recommended for new players.
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>>145342254
All you have to do is pop shrooms, dumbo.
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>>145342796
sword3 hop2 pelt shinobi

Way of the ninja is the only way.
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>>145343914
don't lie to him like that man
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>>145343464
Pet classes' damage should be based on both the player and the pet's stats. Furthemore, both Falconer and Hunter were made with a different pet system in mind, where pets did a lot more damage and had their own skill trees. Their damage was reduces(god knows why) on kOBT, and the pet skill system was scrapped in an old CBT version. Maybe someone can post that screenshot of the old pet window with the skills.

The current pet system is placeholder. I am 100% sure we'll get a completely revamped pet system, one that I hope will make sense for Falconer and Hunter.

This is my 3rd Hunter. I know what I am doing. Snatching is pretty good for flying bosses, but it doesn't outdamage true boss-killing DPS skills. Quest bosses are a joke to kill with our without appropriate skills, and I am not going to get top DPS with Snatching in a World Boss, no matter how many points I dump in it.

You're the one who has the wrong idea about Hunter. Hunters are slow, safe, single target killers and restrainers. They bring out the hurt against single targets, while denying them to chance to fight back. Obviously, this doesn't work on Bosses.

The purpose of this character is to be a PvP assassin. Catching people with Cloaking, before they use their Dispellers. Even if they use the Dispeller, they prevent the damage but still get binded, making it easy for me to kill them with the rest of my kit. And Hounding for counter-cloak.
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Are Orsha anons cool? I might check the meetup but I don't want to be surrounded by losers aka MONKS.
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>>145341670
People don't. You need to actually play the game.
Max at level 10 tent is 30% hp. And you don't really need a Squire3 in the composition to actually eat Squire food. Only good for Repair.
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>>145344091
no fuck off stay in your containment server
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>>145343631
>no hoplite or fencer or highlander
either you really like pvp hooking or you like doing subpar damage as shitnobi
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>>145343749
Although Pelt3Cata3 IS a good tank, because Rush lets it actually hit those 30 enemies to get aggro from them.
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>>145343631
Templar.
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>>145344051
Wasn't the cookie cutter build corsair2 instead of hp2 tho
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>>145343539
With Swash5 I've never hit the cap, even while aggroing 30~40 monsters inside a dungeon all at once.

The only situation I can think where you'd want to hold more aggro than a Pelt1 can handle is Earth Tower, but we've been over this over and over again: ET builds are garbage because ET is garbage.

>>145344042
Those aren't easy to come along. It might work for a World Boss scenario, but ultimately you're still inferior to Fletchers, which are the ones you have to beat.
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What Stats does a DMG/Tank should invest in?
Like the proportions idk.
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>>145342796
You're right on track for Shinobi. There are a bunch of possible things you could do from here - I recommend Sword3Hop2FencerShinobi
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>>145344308
>Those aren't easy to come along
Yes they are.
That's why I have 300 of them right now and I'm not even a dop yet.
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>>145344328
3dex1con or something
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>>145343891
>>145344034
Won't the damage falter off at high level because the lack of AA damage atribute ? Not to mention this build revolve entirely around one particular weapon
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>>145344282
>Cookie cutter shinobi using corsair 2
since when? its only good for hook pvping and speeding up your farming for colifly stamen/ slick sap with flag, nothing else works with clones

The 3 viable builds are
>hoplite 2 due to finestra and spear lunge
>fencer 1 due to 15% bonus pierce passive, bonus slash damage and pierce def ignore
>highlander due to cross guard

All other shinobi builds are absolute garbage
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>>145344415
No STR?
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>>145344308
>With Swash5 I've never hit the cap, even while aggroing 30~40 monsters inside a dungeon all at once.
That's because it's bugged so that you can aggro unlimited enemies with Swashbuckling. When they fix it, you'll notice a sudden, massive decrease in your aggro capabilities.

So in that sense, yeah, you're safe, because IMC's never going to fix anything in iToS.
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>>145331109
So ele3 is SHIT in PVP now?
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>>145344091
I know there's A monk
I don't think there will be multiple monkS, though
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>>145344491
Ele3 was always shit for PvP.
It's a PvE build.
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>>145344330
DO NOT DO THIS, THIS IS MISSINFO.
Any build reliant on weapon swap DOES NOT work well for melee classes. Do not listen to this missinfo anon.

Its either you go hoplite 2 or fencer 1, one or the other, don't mix them as one needs spears whilst the other needs rapiers.
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Any way to visit someone's lodge remotely?
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>>145344058

B-but this is no lie, no other sword can do this much damage so fast.
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>>145344396
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/640131/

Just to make sure we're talking about the same mushroom.

So you're going to pop one of these every 50 seconds to keep up with a grind party? How long do you think this will last?

>>145344472
I'll be happy for Peltastas, finally they'll get some of the attention they deserve. They're the Swordsman class most neglected by IMC.
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>>145344067
>Pet classes' damage should be based on both the player and the pet's stats.
Please don't balance a game ever. The pet stats in this game is a silver dump that apparently has no limit.

Which means it's either incredibly shit or incredibly OP depending on how much you dump into it, which is fucking retarded balance.

It just just a horrible horrible idea for balancing a class around.

>The current pet system is placeholder.
Citation needed. Seriously. Assuming they're going to fix hunter/falconer is an extremely bad assumption. Heck assuming they're going to fix anything in this game. You sure have alot of misplaced faith with no basis whatsoever.

>This is my 3rd Hunter. I know what I am doing.
>snatching 7 matches CD he says
>which means he's not using the attribute
>snatching without attribute
I don't think you know what you're doing at all. People were seriously when they said you were a fucking moron. Snatching does 4x damage. Think about that for a second.

>You're the one who has the wrong idea about Hunter.
Says someone who wants the class to be balanced around a silver dump. You have no regard for balance at all. Yes hunters are good for single target, but that doesn't mean they should be ENTIRELY UNABLE to deal with ground bosses. They have 1, ONE hunter skill to use on ground bosses. Other classes don't have this retarded restriction.

IT IS BAD BALANCE, if you can't see it, you're a fucking moron. Please stop playing hunter.
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>>145344470
No
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>>145344594
Someone post the memenobi webm or the doppel webm.
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>>145344550
>misinfo
You know that I could have just forgotten you need a spear for Hoplite, right? Calm down, bud.
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>>145344330
>>145344550
Who do I trust

>>145344459
The pastebin on the OP says it goes sm3 pelt1 cor2 ninja 1
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>>145344531
t. doppelposter
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>>145344604
Why would I care about using them for a grind party? I'm already the best member there just from having DPE.
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50 black old kepa killed and 0 skins
Does the Black Old Kepa in Grynas drop it at all?
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>>145344649
You do know the pastebin was originally titled "bad builds" before getting changed to "ask before trying these cookies" before its current state right?
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>>145344649
I'd rather have hop2 or highlander2 than cor2 for my ninjanobi, but that's just me.
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>>145344604
Those mushrooms have really high droprates, man. Both of my alts going through Orsha have gotten a mushroom to drop just doing the one "kill 6 Lapisapes" quest.
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>>145344649
the pastebin was written by a fucking retard it's full of errors
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>>145344426
All STR with some CON, and you're good to go.
Just remember that QS3Cannoneer is high mobility DPS, not nuke DPS. You can't hit as hard as fletcher, but you're better at staying alive.
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>>145344607
Not him, but i do think hunter pets should function similarly to how Cata/SR does, and a % of the pets stats should factor into skill damge, else they should jut scrap the entire pet system and just make it tie to your characters level, specially the case when/if they release new pets as that basically means you have to level a potentially new, better pet and silver invest, versus the one you currently have.
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>>145344491

you can jump meme cloud

meteor can't ohko people who matter

the best cc in the game right now (raise) can't setup your cloud (since raise makes people fly)
sleep was nerfed
you can easily fuckup with stone curse if you even consider it for cc


still works as a b tier class, quickcast and warlock at r7 can make anything useful, but hey, they nerfed dark theurge bullshit touch of death and pixel of agony, so...


yeah, not worth rolling full con ele 3 for pvp, better go con/int for pve and have some fun when you can camp low level players with your guild

MAYBE Meteor followed by rune of destruction can instagib some people on arena, also, isa + freezing sphere 10 is a bazooka, but again, not worth imo
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>>145344738
>>145344785
I know this is misinfo general but I somehow doubt you guys would keep a prank running this long in the OP
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>>145344607
His argument is that Hunter skills should be based on both pet stats and player stats WITH a new pet stat system. Don't separate the two and then argue against them each in turn, you retard. You haven't successfully refuted his arguments if you do that. It just makes you look like a tool.
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>>145344649
The pastebin even lists that as a memebuild. The corsair section in it has hop2 cor2 shinobi.
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>>145344738
>>145344764
>>145344785
Ok then.. I was just wondering cuz hell if I know it might work even if it sounds retarded

Last thing I need before fucking off and go full naruto
What swordie skills do I get?
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>>145344840
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#313331aa.1a4a51.112f75.1a4a - Falconer > Cannoneer
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>>145344607
>The pet stats in this game is a silver dump that apparently has no limit.
>Which means it's either incredibly shit or incredibly OP depending on how much you dump into it, which is fucking retarded balance.

The whole games works like this, by the means of skills attributes. And the way the pet system works right now is, like I said, placeholder. That's why it's so shit.

>Citation needed. Seriously. Assuming they're going to fix hunter/falconer is an extremely bad assumption. Heck assuming they're going to fix anything in this game. You sure have alot of misplaced faith with no basis whatsoever.

Major evidence: Hawks have HP/STA but cannot get hit, and nothing happens when their STA is at 0. Obviously the system isn't working as it was originally designed.

The thing about pets having had skills before is true, though. I should save that screenshot of the old pet window next time I see it.

>Says someone who wants the class to be balanced around a silver dump.

Again, the whole game is a silver dump.

>but that doesn't mean they should be ENTIRELY UNABLE to deal with ground bosses.

Please read my posts. Quest/dungeon bosses are a joke, world bosses are out of reach either way.

It sucks to fight bosses, but it's not a large or meaningful part of the game in the first place.

>>145344767
They don't drop nearly often enough for them to be popped like candy.
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>>145344805
>you're better at staying alive
Play the game

QS3 have to go full or high str, which means low evade and dying often if you get hit. You have to constantly be sustaining your damage and any attempt to dodge an attack will halt your DPS.

Fletcher on the other hand can go dex and give no fucks, just drops magic arrow and stands there dodging everything. It can also just drop magic arrow and jump around like a retard avoiding any attacks because he has a continuous stream of uninterrupted DPS.

Seriously, play the game. I've had both characters.
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>>145344840
That's because the threads are made by Discord most of the time
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>>145344942
gungho (whatever you feel comfortable with), pain barrier 3 or higher, concentrate (whatever you feel comfortable with), bash 3, thrust 1 (optional), restrain max (if you will never pvp in your life this could be lower but theres no other good skills to put points into either way), double slash max.

Pommel beat is garbage as even with 5x and strike weak enemy, it still does garbage damage compared to double slash and kunai.
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>>145345045
>They don't drop nearly often enough for them to be popped like candy.
Nobody said you had to pop them like candy.
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>>145344649
Don't listen to the shitters that tell you to go Hop 2>Fencer. YOU CAN'T USE RAPIERS WITH FINESTRA. One Shinobi here went S3>Hop2>Doppel>Shinobi. If you want you can swap Doppel with Pelt 1 to get into parties.
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>>145345292
>he doesn't have pelt as a swordie
how does it feel being reliant on welfare parties/friends/guildies and that any serious grind group will never ever take you?
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SWORD3 + SHINOBI IS A BUG DON'T FUCKING BUILD AROUND IT
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ded game
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>>145345045
>skill attributes
>no limit
wat
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>>145345182
The whole argument was around whether a Doppel can realistically outdamage an Elementalist. If they don't have Deeds 10 stacks on at every cast, they won't out-DPS the elememe. And the Elememe is plopping down full damage Frost Clouds every 30 seconds.

Question: Deeds 10 lasts longer than the cooldown. If you use the skill before duration ends, does it keep the current number of stacks?
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>>145345359
>he still believes this meme
I'm pretty sure its intended anon, the functions outright state shinobis call on swordsman skills as well as kunai
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How lewd are sorcs in game? Post some lewd sorcs please.
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>>145345357
how does it feel gimping yourself just to have an easy time grinding, casual fuck?

better yet, how does it feel having no friends and no guild? :^)
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>>145345461
>The whole argument was around whether a Doppel can realistically outdamage an Elementalist. If they don't have Deeds 10 stacks on at every cast, they won't out-DPS the elememe. And the Elememe is plopping down full damage Frost Clouds every 30 seconds.
>changing the argument and goalposts again

Do you really want me to post the original argument screenshots I have because what you're talking about isn't even close to the original argument when elememes were memeing that doppels will never ever get near their dps.
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>Falconer

Is this essential r6 for Cannon or just ET memery?
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shinobi is a really good build i love to play as shinobi i can kill anything as ninja and my clones are fucking amazing i can even eat with them go to shopping, i'm never alone with my clones.

shinobi life is amazing
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>>145345165
>>145345292
Final build would be this
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1114413d.11233a4a5a6685.19293a5171.152535.15254451
Good enough?
Else I would have to buy a skill reset
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>>145344818
It's never ever going to be balanced properly if skill damage is based on a seperate non player stat system. At least cata/SR only takes a bonus based on pet stats and not have their skills actually based on the pet stats itself. Having bonuses is still alright. Not based entirely around the pet's stats. But I agree with scraping the entire pet system and having it based on your level. As it currently is, it's just a bad silver dump.

>>145344848
That's what I'm saying you retard. ANY system based on seperate stats based on your pet is fucking stupid idea for balance. It doesn't matter if they revamp it. It's not going to work. Even with an entirely new pet system, there's no way to balance PLAYER skills based on a SEPERATE stat system. It's just never going to work. How about you stop being a tool?

>like I said, placeholder.
Like I said, where is the source that says it's a placeholder? Stop making assumptions based on what you want the game to be.
>>145345045
>Major evidence: Hawks have HP/STA but cannot get hit, and nothing happens when their STA is at 0. Obviously the system isn't working as it was originally designed.
Except that's not evidence at all. It just means they never intended for the hawk to get hit or lose stamina, but it's still displayed because it's coded that all pets have hp and stamina.
It never says anything about whether the developers consider the system to be working as intended or not.

>Please read my posts. Quest/dungeon bosses are a joke, world bosses are out of reach either way.
>It sucks to fight bosses, but it's not a large or meaningful part of the game in the first place.
How is this relevant to the argument? Just because they're a joke or world bosses are out of reach doesn't mean you should make the class unable to deal with it entirely.
Just because it isn't "meaningful" doesn't mean the entire class should have no means of dealing with ground bosses. and no rushdog is not a solution.
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>>145345552
You are still a dead weight because your friends and guid have to take another sword for peltasta in the grind party instead of going for maybe 4class party exp bonus or a buff chornolinkwhateverbot and making things faster for everyone
Not taking Peltasta1 is gimping you and everyone around you.
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>>145345636
Why would you not max restrain?
You'll want enough points in guardian for the attribute.
KUNAI IS YOUR MAIN SKILL WHICH WORKS WITH CLONES YOU SHITTER
You'll want enough points in mokuton for the attribute as well.
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>>145345740
Retard logic.

Play the game.
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>>145331109
I was looking forward to the dark theurge shenanigans as well
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>>145345853
Its because we play the game we can safely say that swordies without pelt are literal dead weight.
You drop from 10+ m per hour to 3-4m when you take a dps swordie.
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>>145345690
It's just the most simplistic way to do it, i dont see IMC ever doing this "massive overhaul" atleast not in any reasonable time frame. So either keep and adjust the silver sink of pet stats and make it only add a factor to hunter/falconer skills. Or scrap it and make pets scale to a players level and for non-pet classes it can give some small passive buff aka old RO tamed pets bonuses.
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What do I do with R2,3 and 7 if I'm making a Scan whore?
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>>145345762
>Why would you not max restrain?
Cuz I already spent 30 points between pain barrier, gung ho, concentrate

>You'll want enough points in guardian for the attribute.
So 1 point? Ok

>KUNAI IS YOUR MAIN SKILL WHICH WORKS WITH CLONES YOU SHITTER
No excuse

>You'll want enough points in mokuton for the attribute as well.
Another 1 point then

Revised build
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1114413d.11233a4a5a6685.19293a5171.14253541.1125314355

Thanks for dealing with my shit
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>>145345853
How is retarded logic?
Your dps is shit both in AoE and Single target
You take more damage than anyone else and needs more caring
You bring no support
Your friends has to find another swordman gimping themself everytime because (You) chose to be an useless deadweight without Peltasta1
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>>145344067
>>145345045
>Please read my posts. Quest/dungeon bosses are a joke, world bosses are out of reach either way.
>It sucks to fight bosses, but it's not a large or meaningful part of the game in the first place.

>something is meaningless therefore we should ignore it entirely
This is the most retarded shit I've ever read.
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I'M SWITCHING SKYLINER 10 AND SKULL SWING FOR THE CUTE CORSAIR COSTUME + HOOK AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME!
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>>145345437
Getting 100% attribute on a skill, while not impossible, is foolish. Likewise, dumping stats on the pet is affordable to a certain extent, but also becomes stupid after a certain point. Unless you want to spend 50k silver to get +1 atk on the pet.

>>145345565
Argument and goalposts are unchanged. The argument was 100% about comparing Cyclone to Frost Cloud.

Frost Cloud wins because it's just so much more practical to use.

>>145345690
>This system won't work because i say so
Might as well just scrap pet classes and the companion system itself then, right?

>Except that's not evidence at all.
That's about as good as it gets. Unless you want me to call my friend's father that works at Nintendo and ask.

>Just because they're a joke or world bosses are out of reach doesn't mean you should make the class unable to deal with it entirely.
Hunter isn't the only class you pick for your character. It doesn't, and shouldn't, be good for everything.

My arguments may be weak, but at least I have some. You're just spouting "You have no proof" and "That doesn't work because I said so". All choices we're making are gambles on the future. I may be wrong, as I've been wrong many times before, but that's part of the game.

>>145345978
See my post above. Hunter isn't the only class you pick. At least one of your circles will have something to deal with bosses. Flare Shot has been enough for me so far.
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>Dungeon run
>5 fucking clerics
>This wasn't working so we rushed the boss to retain our sanity
>Despite 3 of us being priests, one fag chose to respawn instead of letting one of us revive him when he died

I'm starting to wonder why I even invested in this skill.
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I heard elememe is SHIT now
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>>145346198
It's muscle memory from playing without priests so many times
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>>145346110
>The argument was 100% about comparing Cyclone to Frost Cloud.
It was about comparing their damage. Not their utility, not their simplicity, not their DPS. Just their damage.
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>>145346304
Stop trying to misinfo Doppelanon
Everyone wants Swordmen to do DPS.
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>>145346198
It shines when its the final boss and the walk back would take too long to get back, really though theres no big loss to dying currently in most situations, once we gt more ET like stuff where you cant orb back up and the walk back fucking sucks youll see people loving your skill.
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>>145346110
>The argument was 100% about comparing Cyclone to Frost Cloud.
No the argument was damage, the original unbiased anon even specifically stated that frost meme has 100x more practicality.
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>>145346110
>This system won't work because i say so
You're saying exactly the same thing.
>the hunter class is placeholder and should work this way because i say so

>That's about as good as it gets. Unless you want me to call my friend's father that works at Nintendo and ask.
That's the point you retard, you have no basis. Stop spouting facts based on your assumptions. 100% sure the system is placeholder and that they WILL change it because you deduced so, is not credible in the least.

>Hunter isn't the only class you pick for your character. It doesn't, and shouldn't, be good for everything.
No one is asking for it to be good for everything, just to NOT be unable to do anything. It doesn't have to be OP, it just needs another option besides rushdog. How about you read my post?

>You're just spouting "You have no proof" and "That doesn't work because I said so".
That's because you are claiming they will revamp the system, without any basis whatsoever and I never said the latter.

I said it doesn't work because you're claiming they should balance hunter class around 2 seperate stat systems, when every other class is balanced against a player's stats ONLY. How is that good balance ever?

How about you come up with some better counterarguments than making up bullshit which I've never said? or maybe just read my posts properly.
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wtf elementist its so fucking shit you lied to me anon
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Cleric 3 Sadhu 2 Oracle 2 (then Oracle 3 for R8)

Would you accept me into your party, anons?
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>>145346639
>more than cleric 2
auto accepted
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Corsair is cute!
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>>145346639
>cleric

at least you are not a monk lol
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>>145346639
You can heal and have possession for damage welcome aboard.
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I asked last thread and nobody was able to help me identify this spell.

When mobbing, some guy tosses it on the ground and it's like yellow or white, not sure, haven't seen it in a while, and it goes around in a circle. It's like this. And no, it's not the blue support spell.
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>>145346813
Broom Trap
http://s01.tosbase.com/video/skills/30306.mp4
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>>145346813
The sapper's spinning trap shit?
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>>145344607
Forgot to address this part:

>This is my 3rd Hunter. I know what I am doing.
>snatching 7 matches CD he says
>which means he's not using the attribute
>snatching without attribute

To people who don't know:

http://www.tosbase.com/database/attributes/305003/

Snatching itself is a Strike-type damage DoT bleeding tick, so it effectively doubles its own damage.

I just got to 190, and so far, everything has has pretty much died in 1~3 seconds to Retrieve/Snatching. I am not using the attribute because +10 seconds cooldown isn't worth doing damage, because everything just dies so fast. Even Pumpleflaps lasted no more than 5.

Should I encounter monsters that require a meaningful amount of time to kill with Snatching, I may consider turning the attribute on.

>>145346350
In that case, it's already been proved by that anon that in a perfect case-scenario, the Cyclone easily outdamages the Frost Cloud. Frost Cloud is just more practical in every sense.

>>145346547
>No one is asking for it to be good for everything, just to NOT be unable to do anything. It doesn't have to be OP, it just needs another option besides rushdog. How about you read my post?

Hardly something exclusive to Hunters. Many other classes are helpless in certain situations because their kit has nothing/just one thing to aid them.

And I honestly don't see how balancing damage around both the pet's and player's stats could be hard.
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>>145346639
>no revive
>no buffs
>no support
>not one, but two ranks wasted on the useless oracle class
Why bother?
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>>145346875
>it's an archer spell
Fug, the worst class in the game gets the coolest spell.
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So how's the game? Is it more like a traditional sandbox MMO or just another themepark?
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>didn't see the advancement sign after i leveled to 15
>leveled to 24 character before i realized it

how hard did i gimp myself? should i just reroll?
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>>145346991

I don't like archers too, but sapper makes archer another kind of class, that's why i took archer 2 sapper 2 scout and going falconer 2.
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>>145347096
theme park
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>>145346886
not him but not a whole lot of classes have a large part of their kit be exclusively worthless on a specific type of mob that is frequently encountered. It's already fine enough hunter has no real AoE ability, unless of course you count rush/snatching's tiny ass hit boxes as AoE, but It's more that hunter has many avenue's of ways to be useful on land bosses, it doesnt even have to be more damage, covered this some days ago, turn pointing into a proper debuff. Thad actually make it useful too, as its currently tied with praise as most worthless hunter skill
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>>145347096
It's another themepark. The savior of MMOs isn't here yet.

It's a really cool themepark, and the class system is solid.
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A2->Sapper2->Fletcher3 @Full DEX

Y/N
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>>145347138
>>145347193
What a shame. Even Ultima Online is on its death bed and the savior of MMO's is nowhere to be seen.
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SEND HELP
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is 400 str enough for wugushi
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>>145347190
Hunter's damage on Flying and regular monsters is absolutely retarded. Add that to short cooldowns and strong, absolute CCs, and it's easily one of the best choices in the Archer tree.

Can't do anything to flying bosses? Who cares? I can deal efficiently with everything else. It's an acceptable compromise.

As for the lack of AoE, I have 4 more circles to pick that can somehow deal with that deficiency.

>>145347320
It's honestly not so bad. If you turn a blind eye to the lies they told us and enjoy it for what it is, it's bretty gud.
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>>145347320
Honestly core mechanic wise it is rather solid, but got fucked hard by imbalance and unnecessary restrictions. It doesn't help that the developers are incompetent as fuck too.
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How much do you cuckinis think I can get for this heal gem I found?
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>>145347671
>cuckinis
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>>145347773
What about Cuckalo?
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>>145347807
no
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>>145346886
>Should I encounter monsters that require a meaningful amount of time to kill with Snatching, I may consider turning the attribute on.
I honestly believe you didn't know about this at all until now and are just trying to save face by explaining to others about how it works.
>This is my 3rd Hunter. I know what I am doing. Snatching is pretty good for flying bosses, but it doesn't outdamage true boss-killing DPS skills. Quest bosses are a joke to kill with our without appropriate skills, and I am not going to get top DPS with Snatching in a World Boss, no matter how many points I dump in it.
>4x damage
>implying it isn't the best damage skill on flying bosses that will outdamage every other class' skills
If you knew about it, you wouldn't be making this claim at all.

>And I honestly don't see how balancing damage around both the pet's and player's stats could be hard.
>other classes are balanced against 1 single stat set
>implying balancing pet classes only based around 2 seperate stat sets will be easy and fair and balanced
Yes that's a good way to balance the classes, by segregating them even more.

I'm still amazed at your claim that the pet system is placeholder and that it's a fact that will be changed, without having any basis whatsoever. How can anyone spout this? Are you so delusional you want the class to be reworked so badly you're trying to convince yourself this will happen?

It's fine to dream but making decisions based on how you think the class will be fixed is just really poor judgment.
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What level gem should I try to get to put in my Valia?
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>>145347671
I'll give you a golden anvil for it
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>>145348036
5 usually.
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>>145347303
Broom trap without wugu kinda falls off, but it's still ok. The outfit is cute though so why not.

1:1 is probably a better distribution for Fletcher, just wear leather armor and high evasion + evasion gem boots.
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>>145348036
at the very least 4, aim for 5 if you can.
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Chronomancer here.

How do I kill these 20 Pumpleflaps? I'm on a quest where like 6 gorillion spawn and I honestly can't even kill one.
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>>145348148
Ask someone to help you, then hold their hand.
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Is going Oracle>PD after getting Bokor 3 a meme? Or is it legit?
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>>145348148
I would carry you in exchange for hand-holding.
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>>145348148
What server is this?
I don't mind helping another anon.
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>>145348195
You go Oracle 2 because combining Oracle and PD gets you a ton of unnecessary overlap.

Not every cleric build has to have R7 PD it's so god damn overrated and the skills are probably gonna end up shuffled around when R8 comes out.
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>>145348148
hold hands with a stronk DPS gurl
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>>145339534
>Thankfully its only the first floor
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>making a guild costs 1 mil
aahahahaha, guess varena won't be having a guild than, time to abandon this and go memenobi
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>>145347518
>Add that to short cooldowns and strong, absolute CCs
This is due to the pet AI being complete shit and hard to handle. The short CDs and overheats are there to make up for that fact that it is easy to mistarget mobs especially when there are alot of them bunched up together. Also it is way too easy to end up having the pet hit a boss trap, since bosses spam them everywhere.
>hunter extremely good on flying mobs
>bad pet AI, have to micro manage their targeting
>bad aoe, extremely small range, aoe attack ratio items don't work on pet, CIRCLING DOESN'T WORK ON PET EVEN THOUGH IT'S A MOB EFFECT
>has nothing but rushdog against bosses
>rushdog eats a fuckton of sp if at 15, for mediocre flat damage boost
Too many downsides just for having an OP skill against fliers. I wouldn't mind snatching getting nerfed if it mean not being entirely useless against land bosses or having slightly better aoe options

>As for the lack of AoE, I have 4 more circles to pick that can somehow deal with that deficiency.
>so hunter C3s should get the shaft because you should be picking other circles instead
This is what is called bad balance.
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>>145348116
Since I'm not going to do ET with Fletcher3, but still wants decent AoE skill for it, which build do you suggest before Fletcher3?
Or should I just go cookie cutter A3->R1->Sc1?
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Is it still worth doing those level 100 missions at level 201?
It feels as though they're giving less and less exp.
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>>145340432
TP is only ever not wasted on character slots (when you have 5 tp sitting there already) and costumes (when you have 5 tp sitting there already). Right not, there are barely any costumes worth your tp too.
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>>145348443
>A3->R1->Sc1
I mean A2->R1-Sc1
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>>145348472
the game has been designed by experts to always give you at the very least 1 level for doing your 3 missions and 3 dungeons, even at 279.
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>>145348472
Yes, only stop once you get into truffle's range.
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>do Constructor's chapel quest, the one with the King's Voice potion
>supposed to open up the Zemnya room and spawn a bunch of silver enemies or something inside
>do the puzzle on one channel
>walk into the Zemnya room
>teleported out
>can't get in
>look it up online
>"you can't do the zemnya room first"
>think that means you have to try and walk into the Zemnya room before doing the puzzle or something
>do it
>do the puzzle
>same fucking thing happens
>change channel
>this one has a barrier in front of the zemnya room
>"oh i get it don't open that barrier"
>do the puzzle
>works perfectly
>walk in the room
>don't teleport out
>wait to claim my prize
>nothing fucking spawns

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT IMC

I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD YOU INCOMPETENT SHITFUCKERS

I'VE SPENT FORTY MINUTES OF MY LIFE ON YOUR BUGGY FUCKING STUPID ASS PUZZLE

I DID EVERYTHING RIGHT

AND I GET FUCKING NOTHING FROM IT

FUCK YOU

FUCK YOU

FUCK YOU

T.LOLIPAN
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>>145348443
A1R3F3
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>>145348443
Broom trap is still better aoe, it just has such a high cooldown and low skill damage.

I have no problems AoE wise with a2 r1 sc1 fletcher 3 though. Crossfire and barrage are not the best, but they kinda hold up and at least make it seem like you're contributing to AoE. DMA is basically a 10 second cannon shot with a stronger single-target focus, but ultimately throwing lv 10 magic arrow at a bunch of things is still going to be your best AoE if you have a cryo or good tank.
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>>145348425
Hunter C3 is great. Growling is great. Hunter does a good job of being the sort of class you can take any number of circles in.
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>>145347518
>and it's easily one of the best choices in the Archer tree.
That's why everyone plays a hunter right?
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>>145348421
it used to be 10m, you filthy poorfag
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>>145348598
Don't listen to him.
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>clerics only have a 2 aoe attack ratio
fucking cock
no wonder swordsman felt better
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>>145348536
t. miss infoagent

its like 4% per mission at 277


they are still ok-ish at low/mid 2xx
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>>145348663
>think I might gimp myself for the sake of tosg
>not only do I have to gimp my class but my shekels too
no wonder varena has zero tosg guilds
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>>145348654
Growling is great, but situational. It's only really good for solo mobbing. Groups will kill easily without growling.

Also get this. Sometimes feared mobs run away but usually this takes a while, like at least 30 secs or more under fear and then they'll run.

Which makes me think fear is actually sopposed to make the mobs run away but due to shoddy AI, they get stuck in place until their AI switches over, so it seems to make growling even better than it should be.

If fear was actually sopposed to make the mob run away instead of stay in place, then growling will be really bad for mobbing if they ever fix the mob AI. It would be like using an aoe knockback skill while mobbing.
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>>145348346
Oracle 2 offers literally nothing though.
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>>145348782
>Also get this. Sometimes feared mobs run away but usually this takes a while, like at least 30 secs or more under fear and then they'll run.
I think this is a quirk in the AI. You know how sometimes you'll be fighting a monster and then all of a sudden they'll just fucking bolt it as fast as they can across the map? I don't think it's the Fear that's doing it, I think it's just what some mobs do at low health / other conditions.
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>>145348748
>complaining when archers have 0 aoe attack ratio
0 and not 1. Which means archers need TWO aoe attack ratio before it even does anything. having 1 aoe attack ratio does nothing for archers.
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>>145348770
guilds are like.. group activity.. we used (try) to collect the 10m together in KTOS but then they changed it to 1m so casual fags can make one too

towers used to be 1m each too. 100k now.

>no wonder varena has zero tosg guilds
who the fuck cares about that shitserver anyways
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What do you guys think about going Scout3 for Split arrow ? Something along this build:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3141888.1a23354a5161.1545.15213f4e6585

Maybe add cannoneer as the last rank
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>>145348872
>You know how sometimes you'll be fighting a monster and then all of a sudden they'll just fucking bolt it as fast as they can across the map?
That has nothing to do with fear. That's just low HP.

What I'm talking about is fear making mobs run away, even at full hp. Do this, grab a bunch of mobs, growling then eat popcorn. After 30 secs to a min sometimes more, I think the long duration is because of AI problems as usual, they'll all start running away, with full hp, then after fear debuff ends on them, they'll run back cause they still have aggro. I've actually tested this already.
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Oh, that's why Passage of the Recluse exists.
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>>145339845
STOP THIS MADNESS ALL OF YOU
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So am I the only one having freezing problems? It literally freezes regardless of what I do (idling, farming) and have to restart the client everytime.
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>>145348802
What does Oracle 1 offer anyway that makes it worth taking over literally anything else?

>Change
useless, 100k every 20 minutes is jack shit. you probably can't even kill the monster you spawn anyway or even recover the costs it took you to max the attribute

>Forecast
only useful in a party of retards

>Arcane Energy
grats you are a stamina and sp potion.

>Clairvoyance
good luck looking into the cube.

>Resetting
you can turn a cube of talt into another cube of talt. ebin.

>Counter Spell
the only spell that isn't ass.
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>>145348656
People run into those issues, drop it and call it garbage. The AI is stupid, but predictable, but most people just stick with it long enough to learn how to deal with it.
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>>145349056
>Oracle is basically renewable stamina and sp potion
Sounds lewd.
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>>145349034
>5 fps
>not a hoglan
YOU HAD ONE JOB.
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>>145348582
Pretty sure they removed the silver event there for absolutely no reason
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>>145349056
Prophecy (which you didn't list) and Counterspell.
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>>145348582
Okay, this seriously fucking pisses me off. You know what IMC did? They fucking REMOVED the reward for this puzzle. It's just the shitty fucking statue now.

That's right. IMC REMOVED FUCKING CONTENT FROM THIS STUPID FUCKING CONTENTLESS GAME

AS IF IT WEREN'T ALREADY BARREN OF ACTUAL THINGS TO DO

THEY HAD TO REMOVE A FUCKING 2-HOUR RESPAWN PUZZLE WHICH REWARDED YOU WITH LIKE 50K SILVER AT MOST

It's fucking incredible. I'm at a fucking loss for words, IMC. How can one company be this useless? How can ONE FUCKING COMPANY FUCK UP THEIR GAME THIS MUCH?

So if you're ever grinding Silver at bees or someshit and thinking "wow I wish there were another place to grind silver", well, you could have fucking gone to Constructor's Chapel to check if the fucking puzzle was up on any of the channels but NO IMC CAN'T FUCKING HAVE YOU HAVING ANY SORT OF INTERESTING EXPERIENCE IN THIS GAME

FUCK YOU IMC I FUCKING HATE YOU

YOU FUCKING RUIN EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>145349151
>improved pet
>improved FPS
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>>145349151
Hoglans are 2FPS. that pet has better stats ofc

>>145349034
>ArcherKoenigger
post tiddies !

>>145349039
fine here
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>>145349096
That still doesn't make it one of the best choices in the tree. See >>145348425
There's too many downsides to their upsides.
Yes you can work around it, but that doesn't make it the best, especially not compared to other choices in the tree. Other classes can do much more for less effort. Hunter is generally mediocre, not bad but not best either.
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>>145349240
why would you take prophecy when dispellers exist and are cheap?
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>>145349257

Get rekt.
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>>145349034
>everyone's playing a hunter now
>he took praise
>he took kneeling shot
Why is tosg so bad at this game?
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>>145349301
Because prophecy also exists and is free, Goldmund.
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>>145349389
So we've established that Oracle is useless and its role can be filled by

1. Not being a retard
2. Buying SP, stamina potions and dispellers.

Go Kabbalist or go home.
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>>145349470
>go rank 7 class instead of rank 6 class
You're getting sloppy, Goldmund.
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>>145349593
Guy was going Oracle 2 in the first place, homeslice.
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>After shitting on Hunters, everyone turns to shit on Oracles now

If a class does anything other than damage or healing, it's useless? You people wouldn't know utility even if it hit you in the face.
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>>145349783
My opinion is I want to fuck oracle.
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>>145349470
oracle is fun
>max change
>go to bees
>kill afkers

games are about fun. learn to have some.
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>>145349642

>>145348195
>Is going Oracle>PD legit?
Nope
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>>145349783
>utility
>pointlessly change drops and put training wheels on monster attack warnings

woop de doo
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>3000 hanamings killed
>still no gem
Does anybody know the drop rate of monster gems? Is it like 0.001%?
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Would you take a koenig to almeth?
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>>145349943
1 in 10000

enjoy
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>>145349873
Well then this post got me confused. >>145348346 Either way, Oracle is shit, Oracle 2 is double shit. Oracle 3 is going to be triple diarrhea.
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>>145349979
all day everyday
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>>145349979
>koeniger is a discordfag
is that a fake?

her tiddies are not discord tho, so its fine
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>>145350242
Its very real.

She was in discord before she was a meme
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Hey m8s, how does this look?

Cleric
Priest C2
Paladin C2
Priest C3
Chaplain
Paladin C3

Going for buffs with a crit str build to also do damage.
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>>145350375
>if this bitch don't shut the fuck up.jpg
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>>145350446
no
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>>145350375
>she
He's a man.
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>>145350446
people gonna meme on you for no Cleric C2 and Barrier scrolls, just saying.
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Want to make a diev alt. Is cleric2>diev3>druid2/oravle2/whatever the best path to go or should I get a circle of kriv?

Also kriv3 vs diev3, which would you prefer to play or party with?
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>>145350446
>priest 3
>chaplain
>paladin 3
I didn't know rank 8 was out.
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>>145349783
Oracle really isn't very good though. You get Prophecy and Counterspell which are good, but then everything else is bad.
Clairvoyance/Resetting are both easily wasted due to having a tiny range and not requiring a valid target to cast and even when they do work it's literally just 2 extra mobs every 2.5 minutes.
Forecast doesn't work on all attacks (like any of the mission boss attacks).
Arcane Energy only gives a tiny amount of SP and stamina which is useless.
Death Sentence allows you to kill one normal mob every 6 minutes and 40 seconds and nothing more.
Change has absolutely no practical purpose and is only useful for trying to kill AFK farmers.
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>>145350565
Ah whoops guess I didn't mean to add Paladin C3 at the end there.
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>>145348892
>complaining when archers deal damage
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>>145350570
>Change has absolutely no practical purpose and is only useful for trying to kill AFK farmers.
An almost guaranteed jackpot mob every 20 minutes is pretty good.
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>>145349818
I want to fuck an oracle boy!
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We hit a new active player low today ;_;

10k and it's currently still falling.

https://steamdb.info/app/372000/graphs/
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Is there any reason to take Sadhu to 3? All they get is extra range on OoB, right?
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>>145350764
Not in the least surprised. We haven't had new content for weeks.
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>>145350698
>16 million on attributes
lets say you get 1 mob every 20 mins like you say, thats about 100-200k, 1 hour is 600k at best.
You'd need 80 hours just to BREAK EVEN much less gain profit.
Thats not even considering making the mob too stronk for you to kill.
With a chronomancer to babysit it would be less but still 40-80 hours of grinding just to break even doesn't seem like a good investment
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>>145350764
new players soon*tm
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>>145350764
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>>145350851
Maybe Oracle 3 will have a really good skill. Either way, it's just a really fun class.
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>>145350764
There's about 3k players at best
The rest are bots
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since we're talking about useless classes
my god, druid is awful. the transformation doesn't even last long enough to be fun to counteract the shittiness.
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>go to a highly-frequented grinding spot on Pardoner
>intentionally have short spell shop duration so people just think time is going by quickly and have to buy from me 2x as often
>set my prices relatively high
>name my shop something like "Save you the trip back! :)"
>making so much fucking money it's unbelievable

I literally can't stop cumming.
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>>145351024
Learn to abuse the exploit.
Simply click and hold the skill when transformation ends.

Enjoy your op skills.
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>>145351024
>merog shaman
>two (2) second cooldown Safety Zone which has 22 hits with maxed attribute
hahaha
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>>145350764
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>>145351197
I want to hold hands with Itsuki-chan!
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>>145350764
>shape of the key to the floodgates
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What is the cutest cleric class
besides all of them
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>>145351145
Haven't they fixed that yet?
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>>145351371
She is the best yuyuyu after all
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>>145351474
The only thing IMC fixes is our lack of loading screens!
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>>145351463
Pardoner
Bokor
Paladin
Krivis
Priest
Cleric
Sadhu
Monk
Chaplain
Kabbalist
Plague Doctor
Druid
Dievederby
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Summons are so much better without the smoke

Too bad this is just a visual bug
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>3 mithril ores in the market for 230k each
>buy all immediately
Today is my lucky day.

>>145351024
Doesn't 5 transformation give it full uptime?
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>>145350851
It's only 6mil for the attributes, will make it back in a third of the time you said. That saying still quite the investment, but much more reasonable, can also always go oracle and then play an alt just switching back every 20-30 mins to jackpot and then alt again
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>>145351463
The one you like the most
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>>145351490
>not her seemingly headstrong but really weak inside sister
I would let her lean on me ;_;
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>>145350764
the player count is falling because no new players can registers. There's literally tens of thousands of people ready to play but they can't
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>>145351629
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>>145351664
IMC missed the hype train twice already. I don't think there's much new interest to be honest.
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>>145351664
You're delusional new pop wave started falling off even before the restriction
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>>145351609
That's not at ALL how it works.
The attribute is a 2.5% chance when maxed to create a shiny. On a 70s cooldown with 2 charges, that equals to an average of one every 20 minutes assuming you use the spell every time it's off cooldown.
Even then though probabilities don't work that way and you're only going to see a once every 20 minute average across a massive sample size.
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>>145351490
Her seiyuu is such a qt too. :3c
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im using excrulions classic chat and i cant seem to find any sort of spam filter in the .json settings file. how do i get rid of ACQUIRED 99 SILVER ACQUIRED 99 SILVER in my chat? i click on "hide normal chat" and it wont go away
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>>145350851
>>145349783
>>145350570
>>145350698
What happens if you meta game the sheet out of it and party with 4 chrono3s for pass?
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> game has pirate class
> there's no pirate hat

The hell is this??
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>>145352138
If you're the leader of a party and you're a Corsair you get a pirate hat on your icon <3
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>>145352040
One of the addons puts silver obtained in chat. Might have to use a command to disable it. I know cwFarmed has that.
https://github.com/fiote/ToS-Addons/wiki/cwFarmed
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>>145351559
Why did they black out summons and change shoggoths anyway?
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>>145352210
appreciate it
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>>145352040
>cant seem to find any sort of spam filter
I think classic chat doesnt have a spam filter, it's the trade off for not using LKchat, unless they updated it
>>
Is there a way to set the interact key for mouse mode so I can actually complete certain quests without switching?
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>mfw cleric 3
I don't know why you guys hate it so much, I'm fucking loving these tiles.
>>
Does Ein Sof have any Synergy with Restoration, like how Heal and Healing factor and other heals do?
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>>145352387
opportunity cost
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>>145351685
I'll be there to comfort her because I know she actually just wants someone to rely on ;_;
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>>145352387
There's not really any reason to not go Cleric 3 unless you want Priest, Krivis, Bokor, or Diev that badly.

It segues perfectly into Paladin or Sadhu.
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>>145352387
Divine Might lv 10 is good for spammer too.
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>>145352654
What's the point of Divine Might 10? Can you have 9 other people in your party later in the game?
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>>145352684
You havent read the skill or dont play the game, do you.

Each point is another ability it affects during its duration.
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>>145352684
Skill level is how many other skills can be used before divine might wears off. DM 10 is 10 skills at +1 level.
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>>145352770
I don't play cleric, fagboy.
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>>145352821
Then why ask a stupid question if oyu dont care about the answer you literal retard?
>>
dead game
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>tfw just rewatched old anime today instead of doing my daily dungeons/missions
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>>145352494
does anyone know?
>>
n-no one ERP in my guild, HELP
>>
Cattly
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>>145353505
Join Futureproof
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>>145353505
@Miyutan
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>>145353460
Having dungeons and missions be daily is actually really shitty design. Either you want to do them a lot and you do them all and can't do more, or you don't want to do them, don't do them, and can't ever regain those 3 runs, putting you behind permanently no matter how hard you work.

It's stupid.
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>>145353658
welcome to f2p
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>>145353658
Its normal business in mmo anon.
Its just a method to ensure players are forced to login daily
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>>145353531
Hello!
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Have IMC done anything yet? Like R8 news/new quests/new recolored mobs dealing 50k dmg with 1 spiral?
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>>145353778
Make this thread great again
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>>145353807
they increased FPS by 250%
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>>145353505
What server
>>
>>145353807
lol
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>>145353816
Soon!
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>>145353827
So... 14 fps?
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>>145353807
>Have IMC done

lol
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>>145353807
>Have IMC
>>>/tosforums/
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>>145353807
>PoE
I got off that ride earlier this year
Kind of missing it, comparing the class system to IMC's flustercuck
>>
>find heal+1 gem
>can't trade it

what's the bloody point
>>
>>145353916
7 fps.
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>>145354057
The point is scamming with it as they need to trade their item to you before you can socket it than trade back
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jesus christ the ledas shield is so good
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>Farming for rare drop
>Some nerdlord runs in
>Kills one mob
>Gets said drop
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I don't want to see the patch notes tomorrow.

They're literally going to make me quit.
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>>145354168
>Loading screens will now take longer to load allowing players to get a very good look at them
>>
Do the Kabbalist skills scale with Int or Spr?
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>>145354265
Dex.
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>>145354125
wow that's pretty dumb

if I don't have a token, what could I even get for it?
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>>145354265
Matk
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>>145354310
Nothing since you can't trade back so its worthless.
At best you can feed it to your gems for 10k exp
>>
>>145354168
Just wait one more week!

One more week and then the real full release date is here!

One more week...!
>>
WHAT THE FUCK THIS RAMBEAR ARCHER PUT SOME KIND OF DEBUFF ON ME BEFORE I BASICALLY INSTANTLY DIED.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BS
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>>145354382
well alright then, cheers
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>>145354403
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>>145354382
>At best you can feed it to your gems for 10k exp
isnt it like 3.7k or so?
>>
>>145354436

Death sentence? Yeah that shit is annoying as hell
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>>145354436
>hes only just experiencing the hell of rambear
wait till you meet blue spion
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>>145354464
this is too painfully true, delete it
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>>145354517
It's half of whatever it takes to get to level 5, so like 7500. Used to take you straight to level 5, but somehow that's overpowered.
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>>145354464
we're on phase 3. phase 4 incoming
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>>145354464
This game will be much better once /vg/ finally tires of it and leaves.
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>>145354436
You can dispel it with Cure or a Dispeller if you can't kill the mob fast enough
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>>145354646
Fucking JEW NPC I fucking hate you and your kind
>>
>>145354646
How much I have to pay to fuck pardoner master?
>>
>>145354168
I swear to god if they don't give swordsman buffs next patch than I'm quitting this godforsaken game.

Can't solo even with full plate + shield yet can't get into parties because no fucking pelt.
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>>145354931
>no fucking pelt
Who's fault is that? kysmm
>>
>>145354562
It's probably based on some stupid idea like "it should take a week to get a level 5 gem"
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>>145354956
>you have to take THIS SPECIFIC CLASS unless you want to completely restart your character yet we're going to make no indication whatsoever about it
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>>145355018
You should fucking know this by now man it's like the one fucking rule of Swordsman

Like how 90% of archer builds take Archer2 or 90% of cleric builds take Cleric2 or 90% of wizard builds take Wizard3

it's just what you do
>>
>Have to choose between thighlander and peltASSta
Decision. Decision.
>>
>>145355067
Both.

Permanent defense 0

There are worse things
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>>145355067
>have to choose between being useful or being useless
hmmm
>>
wiz-pyro-thaum-linker
When will this horrible meme end?
>>
>>145355294
when nobody makes alchs anymore
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>>145355294
Good buildâ„¢
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>>145354749
Are you hating her?
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>>145355067
Highlander > Pelt > Highlander 3
Otherwise Pelt first
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>>145355319
I'm an alch but I'm going pyro 3 so I can actually hurt things.
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>>145354749
Or her?
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>>145355294
when you help enlighten them
>>
>>145355513
pyro3 is only a little bit stronger than pyro2thaum1, and without the added benefit of buffs for the party so people actually party you
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>>145355513
Only good alch build is combustion build
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l o d s of e m o n e
what's that spell?
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>>145355018
Closed beta:
>You're an archer? Reroll, retard, archers don't do any damage.
>You're a wizard? Fucking kicked if you're not linker.
>Cleric? I don't need heals, it's faster solo.
>Swordsmen are the only viable class.

Release:
>I swear to god if they don't give swordsman buffs next patch than I'm quitting this godforsaken game.
>>
>>145355834
don't let the door hit your ass on the way out
>>
>>145355834
I like it better this way, since 3 classes are viable instead of 1.
>>
>cyclone gets interrupted by damage and goes on cooldown
>deeds makes you die in one hit and never stacks
>c2 skills do less damage than barb skills

>mfw I fell for the doppelmeme

NEVER AGAIN
>>
SPROING SPROING SPROING SPROING
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>>145355757
Hey, anon. Say "Shield Crasher" out loud a few times.
>>
>>145356019
you and me both, anon
>>
>>145355360
BIG FAT KABBALIST TATS
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>>145356019
>he doesn't use pain barrier
>he doesnt use shrooms
>he thinks doppel 2 is worth anything but more cyclone and deeds

top laughs
everything mentioned was already stated in the calcs
>>
>>145356150

nice misinfo
>>
>>145356023
wrong general
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>>145354931
i-i'll heal you while solo, anon
>>
>>145356150
>doppel is good
>meet one in mission
>he gets completely assraped by the boss
thanks again misinfo agents
>>
>>145355757

whats that tooltip addon anon
>>
>>145356253
>elememe is good
>meet one in mission
>he gets completelyy assraped by the boss
thanks again misinfo agents
>>
>>145356253
>>145356342
Literally who cares? Which do you think is going to be getting shouted for? The Chronomancer
Now shut up
>>
>>145353658
They should make it 10 runs per 3 days desu for token users only though because imc
>>
You know how some bugs get included into the game? What bugs SHOULD be included in Tree of Savior?
>>
What's the optimal party?

For me, it's
Wugushi
2 dps mages, preferably one with linker
Cleric 2, Priest 1, rest doesn't matter
Some sort of support like dps archer/mage or support mage
>>
Tree of Savior

RENEWAL
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>>145356816
Linker literally like doubles+more wugushis damage with attribute and allowing blow to aoe. How is only a preferable linker in your optimal party even a thing?
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>>145356768
The annoying thing is that daily limits are bad for player retention. Every game I've ever played, when daily limits on basic, core things were introduced, the playerbase died. People don't like feeling like their MMO is a job.

The difference between grinding for 10 hours to get a drop and spending 30 minutes a day for 10 days to get a drop is that you choose to do one and can do it at your leisure and you feel obligated to do the other one because if you miss the opportunity it's gone.

The only players you retain are the diehard whale type, and you'd have retained them either way. But no MMO company these days is willing to return to a more freeform sandbox feel, because that would be "risky", and big companies hate risk.

It's like fucking MMO lifehacks, man. They all get together and share ridiculous broscience they all made up and insist it's the reason why they're doing well.
>>
>>145356816
4 Loki Prime
4 Tonkors
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>>145356816
For grinding? Chrono, Elememe, Fletcher, PeltCorsair, and a Kabbalist.
>>
How do I stay build a cleric? Con and int?
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>>145356909
>How is only a preferable linker in your optimal party even a thing?
What?

Making assumptions about whatever you were trying to write there, I'd prefer one dps mage be a linker so that there's a extra slot for another DPS. Otherwise the support mage will, of course, be a linker.
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>>145356816
5 monks
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>>145356996
50+ con, rest into spr
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>>145357032
Ironically, groups of healers tend to be really good.
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>>145357104
Well, except those are monks.
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R8 this build:

W3/Link/Sorc2/Warlock
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111766f.11233f4a51657585.11213545.1a213141516a7185.152535
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>>145356996
Priest?50-80 CON SPR
Everything else 50-80 CON INT
No Monks
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>>145357128
R8 isn't in the game yet, anon.
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>>145357128
You don't even need points in Sure Spell. All your skills are instant cast other than Energy Bolt.
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>>145354215
No complaints here
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>>145357120
TOP BANTZ
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>>145357342
Better be safe when they released the rank 8 class :^)
>>
>>145357128
Go Sorc3 or Necro1 instead of Linker for the keks
>>
Does it matter what card is used in Shoggoth's Necronomicon? Which has the best stats?
>>
>>145357456
>R4
>>
>>145357456
That's impossible.

>>145357504
Yes, but there's only like 3 cards. Just use a Glauckman or whatever he's called. The level of the card is more important that what it is.
>>
>>145357456
Sorc is a rank 5 class, anon
>>
>>145357456
play the game
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>>145357617
Play the game.
>>
Is cryo 3, sorc 1 a decent alch build?
>>
>>145357717
I hope you like going solo for the rest of its career.
>>
>>145357504
>>145357584
>The level of the card is more important that what it is.
Yeah, but in the case of Necro, barely.
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>213 harpeia cubes
>no petamion
:^)
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>>145357760
That was the idea, I don't have friends and I can queue for dungeons.
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>>145357456
What a fucking retard lmao
>>
Is LInker C1 even worth it for DPS wizard ?
>>
>>145357782
>all that censorship
>even the hat
fwe〇〇
>>
>>145357782
But you already have Max Petamion
>>
>>145357869
Play the game.
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>>145357869
IT DEPENDS IF YOU GO PYRO
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>>145357869
Depends on how you're DPSing. If you're doing something like pyro 2 into something, then yes. If you're wiz 3 into like necro/warlock, yes.
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>>145357897
I traded it for glad band recipes
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>>145357128
Dump Reflect Shield and maybe lower Lethargy to 1, put those points into Energy Bolt for faster casting.
Looks good otherwise.
>>
Which would offer more to an Party?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222bf.1a2a31435561.213f4554659aa5.15233542.153545

or

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112bbbf.1a2a31435561.253545.1f233f426575.153545
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>>145358000
WHY?
>>
>>145358108
>Leveling when you were already at 15 class level
Fucking why do people do this, you're just going to gimp yourself once r8 comes around
>>
>>145358130
Triple priest is better.
>>
Guys is it worth going roxona plate armour or do I listen to the memes and just wait for grynas?
Currently level 201 fencer whos getting raped in every story quest ever due to only white gear and quest reward gear
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>>145358306
Upgrade some

Consider why you aren't dodging fucking everything
>>
>>145358223
It's not like you need anything from wizard tree except QC+MM, might as well dump it into leveling skill
>>
where is new bread or has the activity of these generals really died off this much?
>>
>wake up
>still no patch
>>
Hey /fit/, not sure if this belongs here but this used to be "Health & Fitness" so I'm hoping this is in the right place. I'm going in for a renal artery scan. Where exactly will they be doing the ultrasound? Abdomen? Legs? Crotch? All 3?

Thanks in advance.
>>
>>145358223
Unless they release up to R10 all in one go, we're going to be in this situation all over again.
Sorc's summon scales quite well with levels and every INT you can manage to get.
Unless they nerf Sorc to the ground I'll be maxing out the level cap every time they raise it.
Which won't be earlier than next year, judging by IMC's definition of soon.tm
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>>145358368
>108 ips
its better than half this board
'>>145358331
>lunge has 14 secs cd
>flan is impossible with bad ping
>magic exists
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>>145358426
Fuck, wrong tab. Sorry guys. I've got 20 tabs open.
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>>145358460
>magic exists
Upgrade your magic defending shit.

>flan is impossible with bad ping
You knew the risks when you took the job.

>lunge has 14 secs cd
Why can't you naturally dodge? Did you go str instead of high dex? Upgrade your boots.

>108 ips
Half of them are the same roaming shitposting group.
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>>145358484
Are you in firefox? Install Tab Groups and be less of a faggot. If you're in other browsers, transfer to FF.
>>
Known shitposters list:

Koenig and his beta orbiter group
Lolipan blogposting
Discord
Overwatch shiller
Miss info
Ohaiyou boys are cute/not cute shitposter
Doppelfag
Miyu
ded game shitposters (specifically the sadhu one)
The repair break even shitposter

Please name yourself if you think you deserve to be on this shitposting list and the reasons why.
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>>145358180
1:1 str:dex, 2x glad band recipes=8.6m, max peta=6.9m
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>>145331098
):
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>>145358976
>>145331098
>>145332114
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>>145358681
>memoryleakfox

KEK
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>>145359119
>botnet
>exposer
>install gentoo
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>>145356816
>Priest 1
For what? Ya plannin' on dyin' son?
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>>145359221
E D G E
D
G
E
>>
>another world boss ice walled away by the mafioso
>people unironically will defend this as legitimate strategy for world bosses
>"we work hard to hunt these world bosses, just play the fucking game"

KToS world boss debuff fucking when.
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>>145359375
I don't know how you feel
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>monk uses protect zone on himself instead of the doppelgoon so he can do his shitty 2k punches
i see why your hated now
>>
>>145359221
>not using EDGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj5ot7zq1wk
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>>145359445
It's okay to bully Monks
>>
>>145358306

In all honesty, sure, but only if you could hunt the ingredients yourself. Buying the complex gear/dulla frag and even the recipe is fine, but you gotta hunt the ingredients yourself and not buy the completed ones. Once you can start earning Grynas, you can sell off your finished roxona plate pieces. People still buy them.
>>
>>145359445
>not using protected zone on the deadweight so the healer can stay alive
Did the right thing.
>>
>>145359119
Update your firefox.
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>>145358952
what server are you on that has glad band recipes for so cheap? 5.5m for one on klai right now
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>>145358882
my name is anonymous
i deserve to be on the list because of my peanus weanus.
>>
>>145359529
Fedimian
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>>145359504
>monks actually use heal
i think theres a hidden monk passive that removes that skill from the cleric skill tree, need confirmation.
>>
>>145358460
>bad ping
Where the fuck do you live? The game have server for each region. No excuse for 100+ ms
>>
>>145359641
It doesn't matter where you live, their servers are shit. The other day some anon reported living right next to the server and still had shitty ping.
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>>145359641
I live in NZ and I have shit ping on every server. This one is on Klaip
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>>145359641
Not him but sometimes it rubberbands to 150-250ms on my usually 30-40ms ping. And definitely not the problem on my end.
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>>145359641
Be reasonable, their servers (and ingame ping function) are unreliable. This is an "okay" day. A good day is 50ms, a bad day is 200+
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>>145359551
Are you still hoping to get didel, Clari~n?
>>
>>145358882
You forgot that who wants a kiss boy
>>
>>145359874
knew it
Aus and NZ are always cucked
>>
>>145359990
AUS/NZ is in weird places because geographically they're their own region, but no one really bother to think of them more than just another part of oceania.
>>
>>145358882
Add (You) to that list
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>>145359375
Counter Spell exists for a reason
>>
>>145359987
He's kinda nice if you get to know him.
>>
I'm still looking for a guild. Klaipeda, lvl220 and I'm a girl irl.
>>
>>145359420
t. Mafia
>>
>>145360243
Already sent you the invitation last time.
>>
>>145360243
We only need boys, sorry.
>>
Ok WTF, dungeon chew me out when tried to go in the first time and gave me 1/3 run already. Game's not fixed yo.
>>
>>145359375
The ktos patch won't even change anything. They have enough people to permadeny every boss.
>>
>>145360352
Rush? You should have waited
>>
>>145360139
Oracles are always the right choice.
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>that feel when buying the 900TP pack and no TP appears
>wait overnight
>still no TP
>>
>>145360243

Have you even tried PMing leaders? Stop shitposting
>>
>>145360156
Shitposting is shitposting regardless if the person is nice or not.
>>
>>145348582
I remember doing that quest just to 100% the map. I did all the rooms until the Zemnya room unlocked and just like you did, I'd get teleported out as soon as I walked into the room. Eventually I tried jumping around like a jackass through the entryway and I was able to click the statue, then hop around the room until it was mapped just before it removed me from the room again.
>>
>>145360412
Everyone was out already.
>>
>>145358882
oh yay. im not a shitposter anymore
>>
>>145360646
That doesn't mean the dungeon was finished retard. People can just Char Select or TP out.
>>
>>145360519
Apply yourself.
To the ticketing system.
>>
>>145360694
Pretty sure when the entire party leaves the instance, one way or another, the instance closes. I'm fairly sure it needs one person inside to keep it open.
>>
>>145360676
It says it right there, are you fucking blind?

>Discord
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>>145360694
Fuck that shit. That's two cubes worth of a chance to get the thing I want!
>>
>>145360757
I already did, of course.
>>
Best one archer rank investment if I want to do decent single target damage at 220+? Or should I wait until they add more class? Not really diggging Musk and Cannon.
>>
>>145360293

I want Rance back
>>
Do we have a boater in varena? if I ever get one, can I sell it for 15m? or is it too high?

has anyone actually saw a golden infro?
>>
>>145360758
>Pretty sure
You're wrong. Just try it out for yourself. Rush a dungeon solo, TP out and re enter. Wait a few seconds and you'll get kicked out.
>>
>>145360585
SHUT UP! He's nice and I'm gonna kiss him!
>>
>>145360813
those are the damage classes. qs3 is the boring choice, you'll hate it even more.
just go play another game, really.
>>
>>145360768
but im not discord
>>
>>145346003
pls respond
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222bf.1a2a31435561.213f4554659aa5.15233542.153545

Ok so this is the build im rolling with, im at Priest C, just interested in your guys opinion on what Priest buff i should max/
I was thinking Blessing, not because of the kToS buff that we may get, but because its the Pardoner buff im most likely to have expire before its duration ends.

Also, whats a good stat allocation, i have just been holding onto my Stat Points.
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>>145360156
He must not be too nice for constantly annoying everyone in the thread and getting himself banned for avatarfagging.
>>
>>145360945
>>145346003

Archer2 Ranger1 Musket/Cannon
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>>145360981
>10 Cure
>4 Sacrament
>Random Paladin c1 out of no where instead of taking Krivis
What are you trying to accomplish with this build?
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>>145361114
i like the Paladin Outfit, and am too poor to buy the TP shop version
Are you mocking me for only putting 4 points in Sacrament, or for putting any in it?
Isn't cure used for like damage?
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>>145360945
>>145361086

Also alternatively you could take Hunter(for the stun) or Archer3 at rank 3, doesn't really matter much much but Barrage is really nice to have for leveling.
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>>145360840
>>145361132

I want both of these things too.
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>icon now stretchy-stretchy when highlighted
Was it like this before?
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>>145361132
Which class has the most sniffable feet? Preferably with pantyhose.
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>>145360519
None of the TP packs work properly. Using a founder's pack now doesn't work either.

>$14 gone for no items and still unresolved for weeks
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>>145346003
>>145360945
You don't get much choice before Scout. Ranger is Barrage whore. QS3 looks to be different build and playstyle. Hunter for bullying flying mobs and some CC with Rush Dog and Coursing.
Rogue rank 7 is kind of interesting if you don't want to go Musk/Cannon for that double Flare Shot.
I'm probably going to wait for more options for my Scout though. Might even be more supporty class like Pied Piper.
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>>145361637
Forgot about Sapper. Sapper1 is meh. You can take Sapper2 at rank 7 but not sure if worth it.
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>>145361512
>weeks
Surely this is a ruse, yes?
Maybe I should just get a refund.
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>>145361637

QS3 Scout3 is awful though, since you can't combo running shot and split arrow.
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>>145361874
Yeah, that's why I said it's different play style. Meant to be a minus point for QS. And QS without QS3 is pretty shit too.
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>>145356967
I haven't played in a while, they haven't nerfed the Tokner yet?
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namu temple would actually solve the 170 exp wall if the minos spawn there was some 4-5x higher.
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>>145362686
>>145362686
>>145362686
>>145362686
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>>145362649
what 170 exp wall?
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>>145362823
the one you get by eating cards too early
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>>145362927

I did that. What wall?
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>>145363082
unless you did stuff other than quests, it's impossible not to hit a wall at 170~180.
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>>145363285
But that's wrong, you can only hit a wall there if you skipped quests. You will hit a wall there if you were one of the people who decided rushing to rank 5 and skipping Orsha quests was a good idea.
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>>145363416
My first char hit the wall at lvl 171, did all quests on both orsha and klaipeda (using excrulon addon), he also had 100% exploration on all but 3-4 maps, and some kill counts.
There just isn't enough exp purely from cards to get past that.
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>>145363559
There is, I've never hit a wall there. I've carded, both times from 157-159 to 175 and then picked up more quests to card to the reset at 186. Hell, I even blogposted in this thread when I did that the first time because I asked if I should eat all of my cards. There is no wall
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>>145363669
but you grinded on demon prison at 15x, didn't you?
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>>145364034
No? I just quested through Demon Prison. Why would I grind there when I still had every single level 6 card and several level 5s? Literally no one even did Demon Prison on my server at the times I played, I'm not solo grinding that unless I'm there for gem exp at higher levels
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>>145359375
What server is this? Never seen bosses being walled off.
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