Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

Kill me

I LOVE TALT!

>>145275738
You can dig up every other "raw" material so I presume mithril dig spots exist too.
So far I've found sapphire, zircon and ruby.

The rates are barely better than just outright farming it through and you could earn more shekels just killing mobs.

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3rd for best cuteposter in this game's history.

>finally get arde
>mfw zaibas

my fucking god

>>145275924
I got arde on my third run on my first character of the 90 dung I can't imagine how slow leveling is without one.

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Repostan to spread the shinobi love!

>>145276093
>killing something 100 levels lower
go try that in the 240 dungeon you shitter

i'm just salty since i've waiting for non-existent yellow flower

>>145276093
You blew your load

>>145275756
This is fire

>>145275985
yeah this shit is 100% bonkers

possession is going to be off the goddamn chain when i get to it

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>>145276093

I don't care what everyone else says about shinobi, this looks satisfying and fun

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>tfw there's still no /tosg/ approved Varena guild

>>145276371

There's no /tosg/ Varena guild to begin with.

>>145276371
>implying we have enough players for one
>implying I will waste 1 mil silver for you cucks
I'm almost 225 and unless you cucks fund me 1 mil and prove theres even enough players from varena than fuck off.

>>145275324
>>145273173
>exp tome
I guess it'll be nice
>warpstone
okay idea
>name
pointless shit also you can change the name
>bot report captcha
wow this won't be exploited at all like people throwing dozens of captchas at you during world boss or pvp. retarded idea.
>jail area
some success with RO

>>145276489
Oh, that sucks. Should've started in Klaipeda instead ; ;

>>145276536

That's a funny way to spell Telsiai.

>>145276535
>wow this won't be exploited at all like people throwing dozens of captchas at you during world boss or pvp. retarded idea.

op literally said that it cannot be exploited, once you solve a captcha you'd be immune to it

>>145276674
10 seconds typing in an indecipherable captcha or clicking on wonky images can cost you a cube or a party wipe you lowbie shitter.

>>145277062
then make it so that when it comes to dungeons or PVPs you are unable to report someone, just like whispering and adding friends is disabled during instances.

i just fucking want that exp tome

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>"Swordsman 'build of kings'" - Swordsman > Swordsman C2 > Swordsman C3 > Peltasta > Corsair > Corsair C2 > Shinobi
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1131188d.233f4a516a85.11213541.1121517185.1125314155
Shinobi clones can only use Shinobi skills, Swordsman skills, and normal attacks.
This build focuses on buffing normal attacks with Dual Wield Assault and Swordsman C3 buffs, and using Double Slash with all the clones.
Destroy bosses in seconds! It's a meme because the clone AI is horrendous and unreliable, and you have zero damage output until Corsair C2.

Can anyone update the Shinobi build on the pastebin?
It's just plain wrong

Anyone have any tips for how to build a PvE Cata?
All I know is Sword3 Cata3 for PvP, but I want to just run around and stab things while mounted

>>145277253
Implying the pastebin isn't just full of trap builds for newfags who do 0 research.

>>145277253
>everyone has to be hoplite, fencer or highlander cookie cutter

>>145277515
>highlander cookie cutter
I have literally not seen a highlander after level 100.

>>145277514
But the Elememe is the real deal!

>>145277556
hes talking about shinobi builds anon

>>145277515
You can be shinobi or a dps build if you want but going Corsair 2 and then ending with Shinobi is fucking stupid no matter how you look at it, it's a build based on a misunderstanding of how bunshin works.

>>145276371
make your own and post it here

>>145277689
I want to make one but 99% chance there will be no interest which would just make me quit the game since my only character is now worthless.

>>145277641
>Hook
>Bunshin
>Nuke someone into oblivion
???

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>>145277515
DWA doesn't work with clones and that alone makes this build very misleading.
also min maxing asides you have to be retarded to not want to grab more synergies.

Can I get a guild invite? Klaipeda, level 220ish, girl irl.

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Dear Blog,

i'm tired. I'll continue next weekend.

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At what point should I stop doing the 190 dungeon for xp?

>>145278465
How many monster gems/ red orbs/ blue orbs have you gotten?

>>145278465
Try it on a fresh char

>>145278707
5/5/5, and a kepa gem.

>>145278769
Warlock's invoke makes racking up kills really easily, but I'll try a new archer with attack damage hats tomorrow night and see if it's any good.

>>145278418
Hi! Few things to start off with =]
1. Yes I added you because you are a female gamer, 'tis a great thing to see!
2. I'm Brian
3. Don't be intimidated, but I'm not a stereotypical guy. If anything, I'll be the one in the kitchen =D.

>>145278694
203 or 205 or up to 209

>>145278707
Make a new account, your dpk count is too fucked

>>145278418
Sent ;)

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>>145278418
Is that you?

>>145279157
No, that's you.

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Blog posting but whatever.

Today was a good day.

>>145279532
>using toy hammer
kek

>>145279157
ey yo gurl lemme holla at ya

u want sum fuck

Is this build any good?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134777f.153555.153545.253545.112f3f445a.15253144
I just want to go fast and farm stuff on this character

>>145279532
lose weight

Is Krivis 3 worth going if you plan to be a support other than for that one Earth Tower tactic? If you do go it, what would be the best r6 and r7?

I'm a girl btw

>>145279829
depends on the rest of your build, priest1 is pretty much mandatory for any support, pd for healing factor and bloodletting, oracle for counterspell, druid for extra damage and sterea trofh

Ya'll know if bonus damage to Large enemies also applies to Extra Large enemies?

Spear bonuses for example

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>>145279532
Grats on the horns!!

>>145279728
Seek sunlight

>>145279896
>priest1 is pretty much mandatory for any support
Nice disinfo

>>145279829
Cleric 2 Krivis 3 Druid 2 would be a good build.

To be honest the main draw of Krivis 3 is supposed to be melstis for organized play, otherwise people like to use it as a single dip class for Zalcai's SPR scaling. The accuracy debuff on Aukuras is great too and Zaibas is good damage but Daino 15 is overkill right now and I think for raw damage Sadhu's possession beats out Zaibas.

>>145280023
Res is way too valuable. If you are pure support you need it. Hybrid builds can get away not taking it, but not support builds.

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>>145279997
No

>>145280137
So then I should statting for SPR rather than INT? Or should I try to keep a 1:1 ratio?

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>>145279896
>priest1 is pretty much mandatory for any support
No, it isn't.

Even if you go for it by Resurrection only, you will be a terrible, incomplete support, go Priest 3 or don't go Priest at all

>>145280354
If you're gonna do that build just go Int it's a nuking cleric build. Maybe get a little bit of Spr if you want some CC resistance for PvP with the added bonus of a stronger Zalcai but you should be focusing mostly on Int.

>>145280475
That's a completely retarded statement. Many, many, very popular support builds only take Priest1. Both Clerics in the to date only ET20 clear had Priest1. Resurrection is invaluable both in PvE and PvP.

>>145280191
>Res is way too valuable
Everyone and their mother carry Soul Crystals. If you want to bring up ET look at the Cleric2 Diev3 Druid2 build.
There's no point in wasting 1 circle for Priest if all you want is Res. Blessing also got changed in ktos so Priest 1 is not really a future proof 1 circle wonder class

>>145279570
NA//Ele. Which guild?

>>145276371
Give me two months

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I want to hug a Kupole.

>>145280601
No, actually "It's for ET" is the retarded statement, you will soon face the fact that people either carry soul crystals or don't wait for res, so say goodbye to your "only" utility.

>PVP
If you die, that is most likely to happen since you don't have stone skin, mass heal or revive, who's going to res your guild mates?

>Popular builds
Yeah, maybe in imbecile land where people follow builds like the ones from Steparu or tosbase.

>>145280601
>Basing his arguments from what other people say
How about play the game as a healer so you actually have an idea of what you're talking about?

>>145281045
Just say CuteNotLewd then you retard. If you don't want to be affiliated with tosg then why try to recruit people from here? Why even post here?

>>145280956
I don't think you can auto respawn in ET or use soul crystals there but I'm a casual and haven't got that far yet. Also resurrection is helpful in open world PvP since it keeps your dudes away from the spawn which will end up with loads of frost clouds dumped onto it, although apparently in guild battles you get a grace period now so not relevant there.

I don't think that Priest 1 is that great but since monstrance is a 1 point wonder and Resurrection is Resurrection I think there's some merit to it at least in theory.

Went Swordsman3, Hoplite3, and will be grabbing Dragoon.

I'm gonna cap my dex at 160 (maybe 180), Con at 30, and rest Strength.

It's been working fine but I'd like to hear the input of experienced Dragoons.

>>145281213

Also I don't think they care either way.
I didn't mean to make it seem like that

>>145281316
>I think there's some merit to it at least in theory
And this kills your opinion, sorry.

Monstrance is a 1 point wonder for certain builds, but taking a whole circle for it is a terrible choice, since there are scrolls and unlike Daino/Zalciai scrolls, the attributes don't make much for Monstrance so taking them is a choice.

The gvg scenario of resurrection is viable, but again, a total waste.

>>145281370
I seriously hope you're not following that build in tosbase. Anyway Dragontooth and Serpentine are fucking cool skills and Gae Bulg for pvp memes. You really don't even need to put points in CON at all. You should be dealing decent damage but you're gonna need a lot of sp pots for grinding Storage/Abbey etc. since you need to spam all your shit to actually do damage.

>>145278375
>DWA doesn't work with clones and that alone makes this build very misleading.

Seems like I'll be deleting my 120 Swordsman.

>>145281634
I was considering unstatting CON for SPR but after thinking it over I figured pots do the job fine.

Are the Gae Bulg passives worth it? Seems they only give 2% and add an additional 15 sp each unless I am reading this wrong.

Unless 2% scales really well end game.

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>>145281757
Y-you may be able to salvage it anon!
I'll even help you!
What's your build so far?

>>145277505
I want to hug a Mia!

>>145281757
What is that sword 3 Peltasa 1, or did you get r5 already?

If you're sword 3 pelt 1 just go Hop 2 after that for spear lunge and then into Shinobi, you can use spear lunge to make your 5x Kunai do more damage.

Naruto can be a good class just if you have Corsair 2 it's way better to get 3 instead of Shinobi so that you can equip manamana and have the best flag.

>>145282139
And how exactly will you inflict bleeding with that build to make double slash not hit like a wet noodle? Rely on Pierce's 10% chance? Thrust on bosses that are immune to stun?

>>145282071
>>145282139
I was following the build on pastebin https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134488d.23354551.11213541.1a293a71.11217185.11254155

Corsair 1 right know., I just wanted a build to farm effectively, not really caring about extreme end game content like ET or World Bosses, but it would be nice if I could do some end game content with it.

this godawful game needs jesus

>>145282546
>double slash does trash damage meme
also if you're going corsair 2 than you're obviously pvp restrain oriented shinobi

>>145282703
Play wildstar and you will be glad that this game exist

>>145282703
preach brother preach

>>145282667
Just drop Shinobi and go Corsair 3 that's pretty much the best possible Corsair build and Corsair is the best farming class.

>>145282546
I don't know a lot about swordsman but isn't the bleeding bonus on double slash a flat bonus?

>>145282762
>pvp shinobi
wew

I sincerely wish you (him) luck.

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>>145282843
Boys are NOT cute and they're NOT allowed here.

I am lvl 209.and contemplating to use my xp cards all the way to 217. Is 217 dungeon has good xp? What about the quests beyond 209? Are they abundant enough to take me to 240 and beyond?

>>145282843
Can you fuck off and let us girls actually have a discussion about the game

>>145282950
Go grind.

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>>145282843
>boys
>cute

>>145282812
Wildstar is unironically better

>>145282950
217 dungeon is not good xp at all. The smart thing to do would be to card up to 210/211 and then find a truffles grinding group at Alameth, you can't quest to 240 realistically. Post 210 or so is the grinding section of the game.

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>>145282843

>>145282832
>Corsair 3
>pretty much the best possible Corsair
sure

>and Corsair is the best farming class
>muh 0.000015% cube stealing flag
>better than swell/dpe guaranteed doubles
yeah no

>>145283141
217 dung is bad exp. 240 bad too.
and often kinda long que. ppl bossrush them for drops.

there are quests up to 232 (for now). you can card all the way to R7 (~225) and maybe until something 23x.
but after that its only grind or daily stuff

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Grinding Storage with /tosg/

>>145283357
just go cor > dop > cor!

>>145283357
Two times zero is zero.

How do you put points into Warlock? Going to change plans for my wizard R7 in the hope that it makes the character less stale

>>145283357
What actually is the rate of Flag's steal? The corsair's I've talked to seem to say that the level 15 steal rate is actually really good. I outright forgot about dopple though, you're right that that's a better farming class. I also forgot about Oracle's silver mob generation too.

If I'm going for an Int based nuke build with Cleric classes, what's recommended for second circle? I've got Sadhu levels so Cure+Possession is a thing I'm going to be doing.

Divine Might 5 and Heal 10 seem absolutely necessary, but that leaves few points to spread around to the other skills.

I was considering 2 more in Cure, 2 in Safety Zone and the last point in Fade, is this retarded or no

>>145283395
meant to quote >>145282950

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>>145281213

i don't think they mind being affiliated at all though? I mean, they are in that lolipan war league with the other guilds.

>>145283551
>How do you put points into Warlock?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2f.152434
other points in something but keep Mastema at 0

>>145281557
literal fucking idiot here, good luck going past floor 8 in ET without it

>>145283357
DPE doesn't grant your party the ability to steal boss cubes.
DPE doesn't even give YOU the ability to get a boss cube drop, fucking mongoloid. How can you even compare DPE to Jolly Roger with 100% uptime for farming materials.

>>145283563
>Oracle's silver mob generation
This is not a viable means to generate money, don't believe the memes.
It would take forever to break even on the attribute costs with changed shinies and you have a much greater chance of creating something too strong for you to kill anyway.

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Cleric 2 is a reliable healer for grind?
I'm thinking of making a dex Monk

>>145283551
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2f.14253551

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>>145282832
So Corsair 3 is good? I could with that I guess

>>145283357
Is Thauma better than Corsair for farming? But isn't the buff only applied to 1 monster? Would need link, thauma and some DPS ind order to farm mobs, is that even effective? I don't really know much about Wizards.

Also Double Pay/Earn from Doppel, seems like have a high cooldown, besides bosses, isn't it very ineffective on normal mobs?

>>145283623
People usually do this:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411.1a2a345561

You don't need to put more points in safety zone. Just being a cleric2 gives it an attribute for +20 extra blocks. Cleric2 also adds 10 extra hits to Cure, and makes its damage tick faster.

>>145283870
>>145283939
Thanks

>>145283357
>I've never partied with a Corsair3 the post
It's literally raining silver all the time.

>>145283968
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411.1a2a345561
DPE is only good if you find a shiny mob. That guy is a fucking retard thinking DPE will out farm a Corsair with Jolly Roger 15

>>145283920
I actually am an Oracle and I know how to exploit it for money.

There's a handful of mobs that drop their valuable recipes/mats as their silver variant, I have outearned my investment in the attribute by a lot and the only reason I don't have BiS gear yet is because I got distracted hat grinding.

>>145283968
Thaum's buff is an aoe infront of them with X targets, where X increases the more they put points into it. Link just makes it easier to hit them all.

>>145283932
I'm cleric 1 and am a reliable healer for grind.

>>145284010
So all the points in Safety Zone really aren't necessary? I wasn't sure how quickly enemies could rip through it, which is why I figured I'd want the attribute (I did know it existed, yeah) plus a few extra points padding it out.

It's a thing that sounds good in theory but since I haven't been there I don't know how well it works in practice, but hearing that I'll just be leaving it at 5 (it's there already) and sinking the last 4 points into Cure.

>>145283563
>need to spend 15mil on oracles mob generation since its from an attribute
>doppel needs to find silver/gold/etc. mobs as it doesnt double your chance but just doubles the items
>meanwhile corsairs flag always works and procs not on death like the others but on hit "plundering" mechanic which steals steady supply of silver AND items not to mention your party (read: friends) also benefit from it
I don't know about item plundering (its about 1-2 procs per mob of 5-6 and around 4-5 extra rare materials per hour) but last I checked the silver plundering has a 15% chance of procing for like 100 or slightly more each hit which with hexen and dwa, you'll be procing it constantly.

>>145284239
If you're going INT based you really want to max Cure. Getting more blocks is nice but the attribute compensates for your lack of points invested in the skill itself.

I'm new at being a Doppelsoldner and I have a few question

Does being a Doppel legitimize my swordsman as DPS? (even low-tier?) the same way Monks consider themselves DPS?

How are Doppels in parties?

Do i technically get 6 bosses worth of exp during silauil missions? as in 3 levels a days instead of 1.5?

if yes, how do I exploit DPE more?

Lastly, give me a good reason why should I transition into Dragoon? when all it offers is more damage and cc?

>>145283623
If you go INT you need max Cure. It's one of your primary single target damage skills. The extra points in SZ don't add much, 2 blocks per point is pretty whatever, most of the time SZ just times out anyways.

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>>145284115
Proofs or it didn't happen.

>>145284372
Kill glowing mobs while you have dpe active

>>145284239
If you already have 5 safety zone, then only do 4 divine might so you can max Cure. It will be one of your strongest attacks because of double Int scaling, and double damage to dark monsters which is the most common type.

>>145284372
Why would you ever go Dragoon and not take Doppel 2? There's no fucking reason to do so. CYCLONE NIGGA SPIN2WIN DO MAD DPS

DPE has a big cooldown so you won't be using it on every single Mission boss unless your party is slow.

>>145284489
I do, and usually I get like 8-10 drops form it, but its not reliable as such

>>145284547
What else do you want

>>145284537
>Why would you ever go Dragoon and not take Doppel 2? There's no fucking reason to do so. CYCLONE NIGGA SPIN2WIN DO MAD DPS


this is exactly what im asking, why would people go to Dragoon?

>>145284480
Can't prove disinfo. Even with a Chronomancer baby sitting an Oracle it will take too long to actually get something good. Might as well just farm mats/silver from normal mobs

>>145284372
Dragoon does not have any CC. Its a good damage class especially if you have Spear Lunge to boost pierce. Multi hits skills are best in this game. Dragoontooth is 6 hits, Serpentine is 7 hits, and Dragon Soar is 5 hits, all with short cooldowns.

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>>145283912
>>145284104
they're all equally good, but saying that there's a "best" option is just plain wrong because you'll fucking wish you had dpe instead of jolly 15 when you find a golden elite 250+ monster

which is just as common as stealing a fucking boss cube, I'm rushing dg200 everyday with a 276 cor3 friend

HEY

FAGS

Grynas is up.

>>145284372
It was already proven that doppel CAN (quite easily too) outdamage an elememe but unfortunately being in melee range really puts a damper on things.
Even with stone skin and aspersion support, lategame things are going to hurt alot.
Your dps is also stuck behind cds once you blast through your 2 charges as besides whirlmeme your other skills are meh.

If you have pelt, no-one cares about your other choices in parties as no-one has any expectations of swordie at all beside being a 50% exp tome (from having 1 of each class) + pelt slave.

Yes

Find coloured mobs or linkers

Alot more damage, c2 doppel is basically just more whirlmeme and putting your hopes into c3

>>145278418

>literally 'invite me btw im a girl xD'

For some reason I feel like I wouldn't want you in my guild, I wonder why.

spectre up bee farm 6.

>>145284758
so on paper Dragoon>Dop2 in terms of damage?

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>>145284758
>It was already proven that doppel CAN (quite easily too) outdamage an elememe but unfortunately being in melee range really puts a damper on things.

>>145284758
>It was already proven that doppel CAN (quite easily too) outdamage an elememe
Love this meme

>>145284480
I don't want you undercutting my goods sorry. You'll have to roll an Oracle and find out how Change actually works yourself.

>>145284357
>>145284381
Yeah, at this point I might reset just to drop a point in SZ but, that'll be much later since I'm not taking it until after c2 Sadhu (c1 cleric, c2 krivis, c2 sadhu, c2 cleric is the plan). At least SZ is helping now.

>>145284869
Not on paper, its been proven time and time again.
Dragoon vastly outdamages a doppel 2 due to the fact that spear>>>>>>2handed sword (which is needed for all doppel 2 skills) due to hoplites spear lunge + finestra.

Doppel 2 means whirlwind, deeds and hoping for c3.

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>>145284758
>It was already proven that doppel CAN (quite easily too) outdamage an elememe

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>>145282843
>boys
>cute
I'm not cute, right?

>>145284921
>>145284923
>multiple calculations already proving doppel outdamages elememe
>zero (0) calculations whatsoever proving elememe outdamages doppel

>>145285107
white-haired brown girls are the best

>>145285065
if I took Barb instead of Hoplite, am I fucked for going Dragoon?

I mean I dont mind not using a 2h sword since I basically gimped myself for not taking and getting the attributes for it since I ought to take the 2h spear

>>145285193
No, the only calculation done was the required physical attack needed for Deeds and Cyclone to outdamage Frost Cloud, and the requirements to allow it. Don't get confused.

DPS meter addon when

>>145285240
that looks like a man

>>145284921
>>145284923
>>145285107
>its this argument again
did you guys already forget how hard you were rekt last time?

someone post the calc already

>>145285325
but it has breasts... I think

>>145285339
See >>145285285
Stop being just as stupid

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How's this for a bokor?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41144455.1a25355565.1127314f617a8595.112a34556a

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>>145285184
hey buddy, you are very cute. wanna play..?

>>145285325
You look like a man.

Shouldn't the wageslave classes be obtainable during the first class advancement? i mean shouldn't Squire/alche be accessible early?

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>>145285339
>>145285193

Play the game

>M-Muh 150h of theory craft that has never been proven!

>>145285384
No anon, it was literally proven just a few threads back that doppel can and does outdamage elememe.
Ofc outdamaging doesn't mean better due to
>melee range
but yes doppel outdamage elememe.

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>>145285021
Except I AM an Oracle and I know that Change changes mobs into literally anything which will wind up with boss strength mobs at least 35% of the time.
>no proof of Oracle character, leveled change attribute, or funds
Yeah, no. If you didn't want people stealing your sik money making method you wouldn't be posting how great it was here in the first place.

>>145285407
really bad anon if you go zombies then bwa kayiman at 10 if you go effigy then hexing 15 effigy 15

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>>145285339
Here you go anon, I'm presuming you're talking about this one from awhile back.

Going to assume barb since I don't know how to calc dps with crits
Also not taking gear into account
(934+85 (gungho) + 69 (concentrate) + 400 (frenzy) + 600 (frenzy) )x2=4176+1355 (skill damage)=5531
5531x36=199,116
The above would obviously be higher on a crit.

Now going conventional wiz3ele3
936+634 (skill damage)=1570x33=51810x1.5 (quick cast)=77715

There you go, I'd still go with an elemem anyday through since its not dependent on getting hit or stacking buffs (just need quick meme)


Or were you talking about pic related?

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Who likes techno?

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>>145285407
>hexing 1
I don't remember, but I believe hexing levels affects how many targets it can hit.
I'd personally grab at least 1 in Mackangdal.
>>145285659
>if you go zombies then bwa kayiman at 10
Stop this shit meme

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>>145285659
Like this then?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41144455.1a25355565.314f6a7a8495.112a34556a

>>145285407
>not maxing hex effigy
>15 zombie
good build

>>145285548
>multiple webms
>multiple calcs using various scenarios
The irony is stronk in this one.
Its been proven already you retard MULTIPLE times.
This argument has happened MULTIPLE times.

To this date there still has been no calculation from the elememes to disprove both the calculations and webm of the doppels.

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So what do you even get for beating these guild quests?

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>>145285325
You are a shit

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So what do the female Featherfoot's tattoos mean anyway?

I think it's safe to assume they're in some kind of tribal runic language. but what exactly do they translate to?

Could it be things like, "DESIGNATED CUMDUMP <3" or "FOR PUBLIC USE"...?

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>>145285952
DONT listen to him, Bwa Kayiman is not a good skill for anything other than moving your zombies around or maybe CCing.
It prevents you and your zombies from doing anything else while you're using it and it's cancelled by any attack, which means you can't use it at all when there are archer or mage mobs around.

>>145285278
You'll gimp yourself slightly be it shouldn't matter too much. What are your barb skills like tho?

>>145285278
p-pls

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>>145285940
I do!

>>145286154
wow, that's a hot male

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>>145286336

Do you like alchemists too?

>>145286336
Worst girl

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>>145286146

>>145285278
Dragoon shoulda took hoplite. Most of dragoons insane damage comes from its low cd, multi hits and hoplite buffs.

You're losing a good 1/3rd of the reason of going the class.
Just go doppel 2 and whirlwind away along with using mediocore skills.
Hope that c3 doppel gives something amazing or r8 gives some amazing class that synergies well since you'll be as effective as a dragoon as a doppel

>>145286262
max Seism/Warcry/Frenzy and pouncing

i-is pouncing bad? what are the general consensus on pouncing?

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>>145285952
thats better (for the zombie build ) now the druid Chortasmata it's not neccesary to be at 10 you can always pick transform for your crossdresser fetishes telepath also it's a really good skill for pvp

>>145286243
>Bwa Kayiman is not a good skill for anything other than moving your zombies around or maybe CCing

learn how to use your bwa kayiman you can protect a lot of party members with that skill and now imagine zombify at 15 the pure super train rail road of dead and destruction.

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>>145286350
>male

>>145286492
Dragoon is pretty shit as you only get any skill points at the 230 range and by then you are already a weak swordie compared to archers who have a 5 second cooldown ability that hits 50 times and they shit out damage with low CD abilities and gain free 50% crit rate bonuses for free.

Why even bother a Dragoon?

>>145286520
Only good for pvp + bosses or if you went really high str since its 30 hits and more hits scale well with str.

Its still shit outside bosses and pvp through.

>>145286492
I never planned this far, is the daamge difference between Barb>Goon and Hop>Goon really big?

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>>145286432
They have cute socks!

>>145286646
I have like 100ish dex and 200 ish str.

will people not pick me during world bosses?

>>145286649
>spear lunge of around 80% bonus pierce damage
>finestra of 100 (level 10) to 150 bonus crit which is equal to 100 or so levels of dex
hmmm, I wonder :^)

>>145286594
Oh, i see now. He was really fat and got moobs, lost weight and they stay. Still kinda cute guy.

>>145286649
Hop has +50% pierce damage, 100/150 crit rate, +3 AoE attack ratio, and Stabbing which is really strong.

Barb doppel can be decent if we get the ktos buff that lets Cleave apply +50% slash damage debuff.

>>145286540
The only way you're going to protect party members with it is with the knockdown and you don't need more than one point for that.
Furthermore Bwa Kayiman is a physical skill and his build is obviously INT based, meaning it's going to hit like a wet noodle later on anyway.

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>>145286432
Can you awake my club too?

>>145286850
Dex is a shitty stat for swordsmen, but I guess you won't realize that until you hit 280.

>>145286794
You're a swordie, unless you're a shinobi than you'll never world boss ever.

>>145286952
>he doesn't know

Is there anything worthwhile in Saalus for Archers that aint a QS?

>>145287034
Meme

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i got a question on how to farm bees as a summoner
GET OUT YOU FUCKS GET OUT REEEEEE
or do i just lower my maximum sp?

>>145286794
>Swordman
>World Bossing
I rather a PriestMonk at world bossing, atleast they offer some buffs.

>>145286948
>>145286432
Uh babygurl, you just awoke my http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/141119/

>>145287171
Nothing of value, then

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>>145286952
poor anon

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Post your slut levels.

>>145287034
Archmage Bangle
Terralion
Plunger for keks.

>>145286794
>swordie
>world boss
kek

>>145276093
Hey Shinobi bro. I'm still waiting for the webm of you doing a boss using only the clone's autos.

>>145287246
Not even 10

>>145286981
>>145287158
>>145287290

i never fought or even seen a world boss before, anons, can I unironically ask why?

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>>145287246

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>>145287246
40 am i a slut ? or i still being a cute pure girl ?

>>145287372
Swordies have garbage dps.
Only the top 5 dps and their parties get cubes.
The dps spot is taken by insane dps like elememe or fletcher3s whilst the other spots are taken by buffers (e.g. priest or thaum).
Tanking is unrequired for world bosses.

Ergo there is no place for swordies in world bosses unless
1. you're a templar
2. you have friends
3. you got there extremely early and the mafia gets there late so you had time to do a good chunk and have small possibility at getting a cube
4. you meet nice people who don't mind leeches which is basically what you are
5. its a world boss no-one cares about since it has nothing worthwhile to loot
6. some combination of the above

The only swordies that get cubes at world bosses without the above are shinobi

I love talt

>>145287372
because swordies are the best

>>145287675
>>145287708
>>145287708


I'm barely Rank 7, how are swordies post 200 in general?

>>145287803
Pelt slaves or soloers
I hope you have friends or a guild cus otherwise suffering is all you have

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>>145287246

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>>145287372
Because only Top 6 DPS gets cube for them and eventually their party
Swordmen can't even think to get into top 6 dps, sad but they can't.
Now get a peltasta1 and then proceed to please healers and dpsers alike you worthless tauntslut

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>>145287246
nothing sluty about my likes, every single one of them are pure likes!

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>>145287246
I'm not even a "cute" boy by thread's standard.

>>145284243
How different is jolly Roger 10 against jolly Roger 15? I'm about to hit rank 7 and torn between corsair 3 or Shinobi. I'm afraid I'll get eventually bored if I went cor 3 because in contrast Shinobi will add a variety to my playthrough.

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>>145288141
Corsair Shinboi

>>145288141
anon are you saying you don't want to be a ninja pirate

>>145288141
Don't go corsair 3 unless you really like grinding and farming for loot.
Either that or you like being a cuck buff for your friends/guildies.
I've been in over 70 dulla and 20 or so other world bosses and I have only stolen a cube a single time with my party members alltogether having stolen twice.
If you're listening to the meme about plundering world boss cubes, don't as whilst it can happen, the chance is garbage.

>>145287912
gibsource

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>>145287912
Sauce on pic?

>>145288312
More like a
>spear-wielding ninja pirate

It's like a cesspool of fanfics

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Do people still like Peltastas in here?

>>145287803
The general view by both the korean and international community is that they're severely underpowered, even more so in int because of the nerfs and lack of recent buffs.

Don't listen to misinfo shitters, though. There are always welfare parties who recruit non-cookie cutters for grinding or even ET. You can't expect to perform as well as a minmaxed autist party, but that's how the game works.

>>145288960
I want to make a pelt 3

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>>145288960
Pelts are soooooooooo iCBT2.

It's all amount Monk tiddies now.

>>145288669
>>145288836
How could you not recognize the art? Shame on you.

>>145289020
>need welfare parties aka nice people
>believing in the tos community enough for that

>>145288960
I want to drop damn game, but I don't know what to play after.

>>145289020
Wasn't there patch on ktos that gave around 20% bonus auto attack damage to swordies?

>>145289261
30% and every korean said it's still shit

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>>145289215

>>145289230
im with
>>145288669 and >>145288836
i couldn't tell who's art that was, maybe you can help ; )

>>145275874
stop posting about yourself, it's embarassing

>you will never fuck Devil in his tight little /pol/ hole

why am I even alive

>>145289215
Pelt master tiddies > Monk tiddies

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>>145289481

I'm with >>145289230 , shame on you.

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am i seriously suppose to grind until i can card past the fucking 180s dead zone? i just want to make a dragoon and stop playing this fucking game

>>145289481
da google faggot

>>145289737
Her ear takes off enough points where Monk tiddies trump them. I guess you could bag her ear though...

>>145289678
You can end it.

>>145289805
No, you fucking idiot. You don't need to grind below 200.

>>145289929
Not the NPC, the costume.
Only bad part is it means being a swordie.

>>145289230
How come neither google nor iqdb is giving me source? gib

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>>145289215
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

Can a full int krivis3 druid2 pull off the meltsis meme?

>>145289805
No

>>145290264
You want priest 1 and either kabbalist or oracle for the full meme.

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>>145279532
Mildly jelly of the antlers.

>>145289941
>>145290281
the hell do i do then? anybody have that updated map to tell me where to haul my ass to next?

>>145279532
>No Cleric c2
How will you give me my divine might?

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>>145290545
you can dungeons + missions and quest+cards until 20x or R7

>>145290101
its already been hinted at within this very thread faggot

>>145290192
I just realized that this retard doesn't even play monk anymore
or post monk here
its someone else what the fuck

gibe boatr plox

>>145290885
It's automatically shit. You can't even use effigy without hexing, retard.

>>145290885
>0 hexing
Uhmmm I think you have a problem with your build.

>>145290828

No it hasn't, nigg

>>145283357
Can you DPE a swelled monster for 4x the shit?

>>145290828
??????????????

>Chief addon cheater gets lolopanther pistol

hmmmmm

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Someone is having a giggle.

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>>145290885
why do you want zombies so hard anon ?

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I heard there was an anon to shy to pm me
You don't have to be shy, there is no reason for
Still have a slot left

What are the must have addons for ToS? Just the EXP viewer?

>>145291389
>must have addons
none

>>145291389
Most of them are must-have.

>>145291312
Dammit, Capy, turn in Unknown Recipient already

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>>145289678
devil is my gf, back off

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>>145282703

>>145284201
t. reddit missinfo agent

>>145283932
Cleric 2 is the minimum you should bring to any party as a cleric looking to help heal.

>>145291285
Does he even have a 260+?

I'm level 160 but missed a bunch of low level quests. Is there a reason to go back for them and do them all?

>>145290947
Only he posted last general.

>>145291778
What about C1 with Priest 2? Is that not good enough?

>>145291853
He doesn't have the item.

>>145291081
>>145291223
Who works with da hootch in alot of his works?
unless I'm wrong and this isn't shin

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>>145291907
>Cleric C1
Ok
>Priest C2
Shit

>>145292001
>Revive
>Mass Heal
>Shit
Explain

>>145292092
>mass heal level 5
>no stone skin
its shit

>>145292092
Level 5 Mass Heal is nice and all, but it is not enough if you're only using Level 5 Heal. Level 10 Heal and level 5 Mass Heal is good. Level 10 Heal and level 10 Mass Heal is overkill, but at least it isn't terrible. Level 5 Heal and Level 5 Mass Heal isn't going to cut it when people in this game can't dodge

>>145291907
Don't listen to the shitter. Cleric 1 is more than enough, especially if you take Priest C2/3.

t. Cleric C1 doing maven event with only 3 people

>>145291526
Actually, how do you do that?

>>145292283
God damned misinfo agents. Begone!

>>145292459
Take it to the old man in Klaipedia near the Bokor Master

>>145292337
I know Cleric C1 is enough, Cleric C2 is easy mode and can get you spoiled.

But Taking Priest C1/C2 is plainly stupid, you can't be a good stable support like that.

>>145291907
No. Its not nearly enough. Anyone saying otherwise is blatantly lying to to you missinform you. You miss out on 10 extra heal tiles and the cooldown for mass heal is longer. Also, it doesnt heal as much as heal does. I can only assume the only faggots screaming that mass heal is enough is the retarded pelts that just hold C for entire instance runs, regardless of damage type coming at them, because they dont wanna walk to the heal squares.

>>145292001
You would go Priest2 for Revive mainly, it's incredibly strong.
With the Blessing changes Priest2 loses a lot of its value though, since the incentive to go Priest3 is just that much bigger.

Cleric2 Priest2 Diev2 Oracle is a very good build in iToS currently. You are effectively trading Stoneskin for World Tree or Counter Spell, both of which in my opinion are much more useful.

>>145292751
>With the Blessing changes
What was changed with blessing, exactly?

>>145292751
Cleric 1, Priest C3 Diev C2 to Oracle would be better imo.

>>145278769
why?

>>145292545
Thanks.
I thought it was someone in Miner's village from the message.

>>145292751
>Diev into Oracle
"No"

>>145293071
I'd love to Diev into an Oracle

>>145291913
I'm guessing there's a command to link any item in chat then. What an attention whore.

>>145291876
tell me

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I'm ready for bullying come Tuesday.

Is shout chat down or just my game bugging.

>>145293071
What's wrong with it? World Tree is great and you have Counterspell to fill the gaps in it.

>>145285407
Zombie

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411444.1a2a345561.1321314f6a7a85

No zombies

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411444.1a2a345561.1f2f557a

There is no inbetween.

Varv Skins can be created with Magnum Opus. The recipe was easy to discover and I don't know why it's not in the compiled list in the pdf.

>>145293347
>World Tree is great and you have Counterspell to REMOVE ALL YOUR STATUES
Are you retarded?

>>145292928
Blessing scales with INT and SPR in the only true TOS server

>>145293375
Of coruse you won't post the recipe so there's no way to check if it's true (it's not btw)

>>145293363
>bwa kayiman 10 on an INT build
This stupid shit isn't going to be good no matter how many times you post it.

>>145293413
Counterspell doesn't do anything to friendly circles anymore. Hasn't for a long time. It never touched Diev statues regardless of that though.

>>145293565
>int

I guess i forgot to say

Zombies = str con

No zombies = int con spr

>>145293413
>he thinks statues count as a trap or magic tile
Cute.

>>145293565
Bwa kayiman scales with the zombified mobs' average attack unless you play in the server that's never updated.

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>>145293501
How does that make Blessing LESS attractive, exactly?

>>145293583
Counterspell removes all friendly and enemy circles on immediate cast but it doesn't remove them over the duration.

You are right that it has no effect on Diev statues though. The good Oracle C2 builds are Diev, Chaplain, and hexing bokor.

>>145293742
It doesn't make Blessing less attractive, it makes Priest 2 less attractive than Priest 3 because the scaling is multiplied by Blessing's level. It also doesn't apply to pardoner shops.

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>>145287246
People keep liking me. I dont know how to feel about it but it keeps happening.
I felt like used goods when i crossed 100

>>145293762
>Oracle C2 in a Chaplain build
You're going to trigger some Cleric2 autist.

>>145293671
>STR CON build
>10 in cure
You should never build around Bwa Kayiman anyway unless you want to be completely shut down the instant archers or mages appear.
>>145293719
>Bwa kayiman scales with the zombified mobs' average attack in ktos
Unless the scaling is based on skill level, it's still not worth putting more than 1 point into, and even if it is the above still applies.

>>145294105
Zombie bokor isnt for pvp anyway.

Also, i didnt even look at the cleric tree there. For the str one, it doesnt matter how many cure or deprotect you get, you wont be standing still for either of them anyway

>>145294007
Eh it's an item farming and PvP build. If somebody needs an IV drip of heal tiles even with stone skin and counterspell to protect them from magic outside of ET that's their problem.

>>145294228
What game are you playing where archers and mages don't come in monster form?
>it doesnt matter how many cure or deprotect you get
Then put the points into Safety Zone instead of a skill with terrible base damage and an unreliable effect that's saved only by its great INT scaling.

>>145294007
Chaplain builds where you don't need Cleric C2 are fairly obvious, though. Chaplain into Druid C2, as an example, means you have Safety Zone, mob Safety Zone, Stone Skin and Sterea Trofh. That's a lot of invulnerability at rank 7. Just happens to not be the most efficient Druid C2 build.

>>145294485
I dont play zombie bokor for a reason ya know. Its trash and wont be not trash even if our game gets updates.

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Is 50 con good enough for wizards?

jesus christ lolipan is a cringefest in shout chat, almost as bad as devil or kirito

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>>145294649
>I dont play zombie bokor
Then don't fucking give advice on it, and especially don't try to argue that your bad uninformed advice is anything but bad and uninformed with an actual zombie Bokor.

>>145293185
give answer

>>145294885
anon.......

>>145295006
>oracle

>>145293187
Is this Clover or CuteNotLewd?

Either way, nice going.

>>145295292
CnL

>>145295018
No

Krivis c3/Paladin c1/Oracle c1/PD
Doable HoT build? Only thing that keeps me from jumping on trying to make this right now is the CD for Aukuras.

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What do you guys think about this build:
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/glklg963kx/
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/idreamys-guide-to-scout-c3/266089/2

Except for the early grind part it seems like a fun build. I never touched a scout before so i don't know about split arrow

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>>145295136
what