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Pagoda edition

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Old bread >>145179435
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Need a break from warhammer lads. Going to do a SS6.4 late era campaign. Which faction should I do?
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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general
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>>145222759
>tfw just beat Ikko Ikki shits and have begun conversion to Buddhism.
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So I just started a new Oda campaign and notice that Nobunaga's pretty old.

Does he typically kick the bucket before a campaign ends? I'd like to have him alive the whole time without having to rush.
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>>145222759
Any mods that improve age of charlemagne ?
I already got it so I might as well play it.
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>>145223570
>Nobunaga
That's Nobuhide, my man.
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>>145223657
It only needs a reskin mod and there are a few good ones. There's also age of vikings but income is miniscule so the game moves very slow and I wasn't that much of a fan. Neat rosters though.
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>>145223657

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=598621992

I only use this one for propa rekins
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>>145223126
Crusader states.
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Which faction should I play as in Attila /vg/? I have all the DLC including the last roman and age of charlemagne
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Steam tank party bus when?
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>>145223570
its canon he dies tho.
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>>145223867

Franks
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>>145223716
Oh. Well fuck.

>>145223939
In canon everyone dies.
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>>145223929

tomorrow
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>>145223807
>>145223845

Thank you kind ones
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>>145224039
>Zeus/Poseidon
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>gee let's check out this mousillon mod
>adds muh own original character Vincent Mercer, who is actually a good guy necromancer
>doesn't add Fucking Mallobaude, The Black Knight, leader of Mousillon in the fluff
>adds undead grail knights
>have stats twice as good as black knights but come in the building chain before black knights

Nevermind then i guess
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>>145223857
Deus Vult
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>>145223450
GG are just way better so zombies are practically useless throughout the campaign, as are dogs and bats once the Vargheist rape train starts rolling.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>BotET crashes in 40vs40 when playing Lizardmen vs Estalian rebels
>Try playing Khorne
>Crash when sieging first rebel settlement with marauders
>Crash when figthing a 20vs30 against Nurgle
Patch 1.02 when?
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>>145223996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY
I shall honor my ancestors
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>>145224860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMdqV50TF3Y
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>>145224789
yesterday
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>>145224789
Did you apply the first patch?
Are you launching it through the .bat file?
Did you install the 4gb fix?

I can run it through the kingdoms shortcut with no problems, they still have a lot of shit to fix with the buildings and recruitment mechanics though.
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>awakened tribes don't become vassals

Took me a bit too long to realize

Now they're fighting each other and shit
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>>145223996
>>145224860
>>145224982
Rip.... ;_;
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>>145225261
chaos gonna chaos
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>christopher lee will die in your life time
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>>145225261
once awakened, attack them and make them your vassals.
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>>145224557
>Literally dead faction
Lel
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>>145225350
Christopher Lee IS dead anon
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>>145225261
>bothering with tribes
Fuck those idiots, theyre worthless

Even if you vassalize them, theyll just fucking secede
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>>145223867
Have you ever played Attila before? The Franks or Saxons are good for beginners as are the migrating factions IMO. Anyone but the romans your first time around and you will be fine.
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>>145225350
...I have some bad news, son.
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>>145225261
> he didn't awaken and then raze them all but subjugate one to be his gang-bang backup.
> he tried to be friends with everyone and got pic related
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what was just posted and removed?
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>>145224285
Vincent Mercer is from the base game Im pretty sure t'bh
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>>145223867
Here, lad. Let the gods decide.
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>>145225405
waah
>>145225524
How are picts ? Nightbattles sound fun
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>>145225739
i still didn't see it why are you doing this?
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>>145225751
>the size of those weapons

SHIT
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>>145224789
Soon
No white spaces this time
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>>145225751
>>145225558
What the fuck are you doing anon?
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>>145225873
Never played them but I've heard they have a pretty underwhelming roster. If you have all the faction packs and want to go that route do the jutes, danes, or geats.
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>>145223929
Thorgrims already there baby
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>>145225920
Neferata isn't glamours enough.
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>>145226064

Truly this is the ultimate evolution of warfare.
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>>145226064
>that spider-legged contraption under the manlet's throne
Yagrum Bagrum is that you?
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>>145226064
>>145226227
>mfw i realized those things are the remains of the 4 dwarves that were carrying the chair
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FOR THE LADY
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>>145225873
>How are picts ? Nightbattles sound fun
Not the best for first time since you begin with one province and then have to fight wre

But the celt gimmick of ambushing is incredible
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>>145226627
tfw on my very first playthrough I tried to migrate the picts all the way to africa
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>A single unit of goblin archers wiped out 2 of my quarreler units without dropping below 75%
I know I don't have any upgrades yet but jesus christ VH battle difficulty is bullshit. I'd be better off autoresolving until I can beef up my army.
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Got a bonus from work, Game is downloading.

What race should i play first? I got the DLC.
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>>145226783
Empire/Vampire Counts/Dwarfs

Greenskins and Chaos are for edgelords and GW shills.
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>>145226619
Rescue me, brave knight of Bretonnia.
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>>145226767
That is why you change the battle difficulty right back down to normal.
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>>145226783
Empire, Dwarfs and orcs are nice first ones

lots of fighting immediately and obvious total war town building
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>>145225524
I have played Attila. The Franks were my first faction. I ended up getting burnt out after stretching from Frisia to the the tip of spain. I got startled when I tried out Age of Charlemagne due to how similar my borders were. I'm taking this as my sign from Wodan to finish what I started
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Yo in Attila there's a bunch of factions that form right near the start of the game like Britain

Are any of those playable?
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>>145226885
>Greenskins are for edgelords
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>>145227184
if you're talking about the Celtic tribes of Britain, they're only available as DLC
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Is this mod good?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=693541093
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>>145227307
No he's talking about Secessionist Roman factions
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>>145227307
No, there's specifically a faction called Britain or Britannia that forms a few turns in when the romans start to collapse

emblem is a red background with like a snake in it IIRC
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>>145227010
>female Bretonnian Knight
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>>145227364
Its pretty damn unbalanced, and also gives you bretonnian man at arms instead of zombos/skeletons for some reason
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>>145227498
what if xe doesn't identify as a female noble
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>>145226885
>>145227059

hmm, i do plan on focusing on vamps eventually because skeleton armies c'mon.

But i had planned on starting as something more total-warsy like basic humans. Are dwarfs more artillery focused? Do bright wizards exist/kick ass?
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>>145227498
>>145227581
Doesn't really matter.
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>>145226227
kek, my first thought too
Tamriel Rebuilt quarterly release when?
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Am I crazy, or were there cutscenes in Shogun 1 where the foreigners would come and visit you for diplomacy, and would be rude the whole time?

I can't find videos of them anywhere online, and I need them, for reasons.
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>rush to expand with VC on VH
>all empire factions dead on turn 46, except Middenland and Nordland who I'm best buds with
>dwarfs like me for some reason
>orks as well
>archaon shows up and has to wade through 70+% vampiric corruption and a shitton of provinces in the north I don't care about
>by the time he reaches Ostermark, the first province I actually care about, he's almost dead, as is his army
>beat him with an autoresolve stack of skeletons
>next round Sigvald shows up from the fog of war with 15 health left
>just dies the next turn

Alright then. I'm never turtling with VC again.
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So this is what playing Skaven feels like
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Kind of want to buy Attila but the fucking DLCs are expensive like hell. Anyone know where I can buy the whole lump for cheap?
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>>145227581
They fuck off to the Empire of course. Then they can kill all the scum of the Lady they want.
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>>145227840
How'd you manage the public order and economy? I could get behind an aggressive VC strat.
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>>145227695
ableist shitlords the lot of 'em
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>>145227869
Now start throwing bullets and poison into the blob.
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>>145227630
Humans = have everything
Dwarfs = no cavalry, strong leadership in melee and good ranged options

Bright wizards are in the game and they're alright if not exceptional, Witch Hunters are the strongest heroes for empire
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>>145227970
Low public order is literally free exp for your generals. I raid my own provinces if there is no one worth attacking.
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>>145227879
They're cheap(er) on g2a

But if you wait a bit it's guaranteed to be in the summer sales on steam and humble
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>>145227869

>>145228014
Only have 1 unit of guns at the start and they are not in this army
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>>145227879
Humblestore occasionally has Sega products for dirt cheap like they did the week before TW:WH launch, and the Steam Summer Sale is only 2-3 weeks away.

Play a memetastic WEWUZ Garamantian campaign in the meantime.
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>>145228210
the fuck happened to this unit
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>>145227879
You dont even need the DLC
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>>145227970
I didn't care about public order, rebels can't do shit when you have an army within 2 turns that can get to them. Even if you force march and can't attack, they will attack the settlement they're besieging automatically after one turn and lose if you've got your army into reinforcement range.
And apart form that nothing else happens with low public order.
For economy I sent a stack north to sack and raze the north, gives about 5k per settlement even if it's a bunch of shitty huts. I keep my regular income at only 2k, which means 5 full stacks.
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>be dwarves
>rush Greenskin capital, capture it on turn 10
>it was the Greenskin's only province, I check them on the diplomacy tab and they are power rank 38, have no other province
>i assume I'm done with them and can chill out since I won't have to worry about Grimgor fucking my shit up
>the next turn they confederate with two orc factions and have a full stack appear on my border

I'm getting real tired of Grimgor's bullshit
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right sorry for all hype and no actual shit, I passed out last night from sleep depravity.

I posted a few threads ago my first attempt at providing individual colours to units in the mods. I'm real damn happy wjtb everything but the black knights/graveguard so today I've been tweaking them. *because they didnt really look that dead with full bret colour scheme)

SO. whats everyones thought on this recolour I did to them, all manually tweaked finest rgb palette you ever see
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>>145227879
wait for a sega sale on the humble store. I got all the DLC for $20
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>>145228424
so somebody went around and put yellow clothing on all these dead guys from other nations, that is alot of work.
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>>145228263
Not my screencap, sadly, but it was too good not to save.
Highest I've ever had pike killcounts go was c.300 when I was playing unwalled siege defence with Macedon/Epirus during Rome 2's hopelessly broken post launch patch-roulette.
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Seriously? Two of Franz's epic gears are both weapons? And you can only have one equipped at once? That's stupid. Doesn't every other lord get an epic loot in each slot for their character?
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>>145228278
Assume I do, what are the best DLCs for Attila?
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>>145228297
Ooooooooh fuck, why am I not doing this?

I hate campaign Vampire Counts but love fighting battles as them.
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>>145228632
>not getting the Ring of Combat Master that lets you wield two weapons at once

lmao
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>>145228725
Oh, you...
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>>145228687
Care, I've had rebel armies spawn with demigryphs and great swords.
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>>145228424
Maybe my monitor has too much color but I think that yellow is still too bright.
Left is your color, right are some suggestions from me.
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who /necksnappers/ here
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>>145228831
>rebels with demigryph-greatswords
why is this a thing
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>>145228637
Charlemagne campaign, Desert and Celts units are the best because they let you play in new areas with new gimmicks

Langobards and Viking packs are weak but being a viking is cool, slavs are very powerful because of poison but boring as a setting because they're slavs
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>>145228424
>>145228880
might want to try this. yellow fades like crazy and i'm sure those dead guys are dirty
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>>145228831
Well that never happened to me, so maybe I got lucky. I get swords/pistoliers/mortars usually. Still, if you deal with them in 2 turns it shouldn't be a problem.
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>>145228557
the grave guard are usually from a central place and actually fight quite well (for a jack skellington)
thats why in game you see the grave guard all following the same colour scheme (ancient undead hunters who lived in sylvania). I figured by keeping the main yellow scheme, Its close enough to be ancient undead hunters from somewhere in Mousillon

the rank and file in pic related are exactly what you are thinking anon.


>>145228880
thats actually Mousillons default colour, I kept the primaries the same for the knight units and am only messing with secondary/teritarys
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>Top Knotz lost
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>>145228687
As greenskins you basically want to have shit public order because it's free fightiness

>>145228315
Fun fact, if you'd have wiped them out they wouldn't have been able to confederate at grimgor would be gone from the game
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>>145229037
Any chance you could ever get a model switch on the blades grave guard uses? Seems weird that knights all are wielding falchions
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>>145229031
>>145228880
I will give it a try though anons, just secondary colours first and you do make good points.

here is what the too colourfull ones ended up looking like for a reference(so you can see why Im changing them)
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>>145229037
A more faded yellow would make them look a whole lot more undead as >>145229010 said. You should give a more faded primary color a try.
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>>145229247
I agree with what the other guys have said, these very bright colours just don't fit on rotten fuckers somebody's dug up recently.
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>>145229005
Thanks senpai. I'll get attila, blood and vikings. 14 dollers at wingamestore.
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>>145227695
How are females of the other races and nations treated in Fantasy?
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>>145229669
Outside of elves, as much as youd expect
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As Dwarves should I get cannons or grudge throwers? For campaign not multiplayer
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>>145227695
>Reverse traps: the nation
truly the best
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>>145229641
He looks more concerned than scared.
Such is live in Kislev.

>>145229669
Everything that's not explicitly noblebright is medieval europe in regards to genders.
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For cute vampire waifus!
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>>145229837
>Ah another one of these fucking dogs what else is new
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>>145229669
>>145229824
To be clear, Gee Dubs doesn't condone this blatant bigoted oppressive patriarchal I ran out of buzzwords misogyny.
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>>145229907
I want to suck on her toes!
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>>145229907
pretty cute
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>>145226064
>has the imperial alliance gone too far y/y?
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>>145229224
yeah anon I'll just give them default grave guard rust swords with the scimitars removed, they currently use the skeleton peasant ones for some reason (which is why the heap of falchions)

>>145229458
>>145229010
>>145228880
a real good idea lads, so this is what it looks like with the top right colour, I'm pretty happy with it.
for reference that is the exact top right colour that anon linkeds rgb code
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>>145225350
It hurts anon, don't remind us.
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Do you get to create your own lord for multiplayer battles? The last TW game I played had that, I think you could also unlock cool armor and symbols and stuff for them and their flag.
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>>145229907
How can people like this dead clown
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>>145225350
Not if I kill myself now
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>>145230194
You shut your fucking mouth!

>>145229965
The cutest!

>>145229958
Get your own!
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>>145230174
Not right now. Apparently they want to add it, but I forgot where I even heard that so don't hold me to it. Multiplayer is pretty fucking barebones at this point.

The game you played msut have been Shogun 2.
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>>145230069
I like it.
Now if only you could change the glow of the eyes to the color of the glow the grail knights get on their sowrd. That would make it 10/10.

>>145230194
pic
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Anybody know where that spooky ocean monster is on the map
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>>145230069
The mustard knights have arrived


Also I referring to the great weapon grave guard
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>>145230395
>golden glowy eyes
fuck that's good but is that even possible?
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>>145230438
Yes
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>when dumb fucking bretonnians try to intercept you in the underway
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>>145230293
Why do I have to get my own? She has two feet, we can share.
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>>145230395
>>145230567

I think it might be hard coded, to my knowledge no one has been able to change it yet. along with the grailknight glow themselves.
looks like lich king resurrected these ones for now
if you lads end up seeing somone change that effect maybe post here with the mod name which does it and Mousillon in somewhere in the post, I'll reverse engineer it


also varied zombies update imminent, prepare ur butts.
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Why is Archaon a manlet?
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VC seem to get a hero when they research the third tech on any given tree. Which one gives me a vampire qt?
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>>145230881
could you give the zombies some frilly hats?
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>>145230868
Because I married her! Go marry her sister!
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>>145230940
Thats such a weird bug I've seen a lot

Its either people appear giant on the map or they appear super small

Kholek and Deathclaw Karl look ridiculous with it
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>>145230940
That's the reason he became the Everchosen, he's compensating.
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Does VC get artillery?
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>>145229669
Typical medieval women in most places

Do whatever the fuck you want if strong enough in Kislev
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>>145230940
Because he's a fucking wimp and GW shill who deserves to get cockslapped into space by Karl Franz.
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>>145230940
Empire men usually aren't as big as Chaos men. Derrick's mommy was from the Empire.
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>>145231063
Yeah, Var/Terrorgheists
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>>145231063
No

The entire gimmick is no range
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>>145231037
wait can you actually marry in this game?
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Lizards BTFO
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Why are Bretonnian cities so comfy?
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>>145231206
Because the women are repressed
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>>145231206
>Floating city
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>>145231010
anon I know you've been asking for a while, I havent meant to ignore you, just Been busy trying to crack the code of lord only reskins, and variant colours, which is done.
I'll do a quick edit in the next hour or so. they will have frilly hats but only 1 type. what percentage would you want wearing frilly hats to unhatted. 20% 40% 60% 80% 100%
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>>145231206
All the little side outcroppings are toilets. The nobility literally shits on the peasants heads from there.
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>>145231365
if it adds any credence to my desires, I was the first one to reply to your initial complaint about zombies lacking variety.
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Are kislev properly playable with the faction unlocker or are they one of the factions with crashes?
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Have they said what races they are gonna add next?
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>>145231365
also, 100% frilly hats please.
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Am I just bad at using them or are the top tier volley guns for empire really worse than the hellstorm rocket batteries? The range seems way too short, by the time they are in range they need to be defended so they will just friendly fire whoever is in front of them, and it's not like you can flank or reposition them with how unmobile they are.

Also they don't look nearly as sick as volleys of flaming rockets raining down on your enemies and screaming through the air and exploding.
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What's the best "AI agent nerf" mod available right now? I don't like the one that removes ALL aggressive AI actions, but it also pisses me off that AI agents apparently get:

>huge success bonuses
>higher agent recruitment caps (whereas the player is limited by buildings)
>action cost in $ is minimal for the AI due to their hidden economic bonuses
>bonuses against assassination by player agents
>don't seem to receive the -50% success chance buff player agents do
>possible XP bonuses?
>etc.

I get that the AI needs lots of help and crutches because the player's going to be beating it constantly, but super agents that constantly succeed and can (almost) never be killed is just absurd.
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>>145232272
Yeah the agents are really fucking annoying in this game.
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>>145231920
Nop all they have said is that all the 16 mayor races of the 8th edition will be playable eventually, but some believe they will add Bretonnia for free soon as they are almost ready
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>>145232441
>humans one of the starting playable races
>hey, for more variety, how about we release some more humans as our first post release faction?
>excellent idea
t. ca
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I am Heinrich Kemmler. I AM THE WITCHMASTER
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>100 word essay due monday
>still playing my dorf campaign

im so fucked
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>>145232272

Given that one of the "Free DLC" graphics, the one for a new faction, shows the Bretonnian emblem, I think it's a safe bet.

Also, the two new Magic Lores will probably be Bretonnian-related.
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>>145232681

100 imaginary bucks, that the special system will be some knightly quest stuff
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Guys about dwarfs agents : which ones are the best ?
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rolling
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Hmm
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>>145232772
>Quest issued : Find the Graal
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How do you advance the fucking RNG?
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>>145232772
Maybe you'll actually upgrade your knight units with battle experience, so when they get to rank 3 they simply become the next tier unit up until grail knights or something.
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>>145232937
Push it you lazy fuck
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>>145233005
What the hell are you talking about? I'm talking about the random number generator. Its current seed seems to be part of the savestate.
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>>145233072
Why didn't you just said something like how to change the rng seed instead of
>how do you advance the fucking RNG?
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>>145233138
Because the RNG advances when you increment the seed. I thought what I asked was self explanatory.

Is there any way to do what I'm describing?
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>>145232627
>>100 word essay

Are you eight?
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Are chariots ever worth it?
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N E R F - D O O M D I V E R - C A T A P U L T S
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>>145233261
Are you new?
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>>145232627
You just wrote 13 words, post 7 more times and you've written 100 words.

Stop posting and just channel your effort into finishing your 100 word 'essay'
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>>145232823
r
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>>145233618
In Rome 2/Attila
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>>145233778
Obviously I'm talking about Warhammer
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>>145232627
>100 word essay
Ha! You must be lying, as that's simply not enough words for an essay. You're a fool! You would need at least twice that many words to accomplish your goal known as "essay writing".
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>>145233832
Well then he gave you an answer.
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>>145233832
Im saying they were good in R2/Attila.Haven't played warhammer
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>>145233950
They're not.
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I wish army sizes were 25 instead of 20, I feel like having just 5 more units would let me balance my composition out more
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>>145233695
Sorry, I wasn't aware of the dank 100 word essay meme.

skaven when?
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>greatest statesman the Empire has ever seen

lmao
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>>145234025
24 would be perfect. It has so many factors.
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>>145233832
How is that obvious?
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Doing a second vampires campaign, throwing in every mod that catches my fancy. Is there a mod that gives Von Carstein living soldiers?
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>balance of power is 90/10 in my favor
>autoresolve
>apparently my main army just hangs out back and my general and my monster units charge in and fight the whole battle themselves
>have to choose between fighting every single little battle myself or autoresolve and then let my 4-5 units take 1-2 turns to regenerate

why does this game have so many little tiny things that are fucked up? the game as a whole is great but shit like this is frustrating.
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>>145234361
this is a warhammer thread
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>>145232627
>10 word haiku due next year
>haven't even wrote a single letter

I'm done. Finished.
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>>145234440
>pagoda edition

Get out of my shogun thread, white devil
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>>145234467
>fingerpainting test is next month
>havent even begun to study
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>>145234258

Everyone looks like a retard when the Total War AI takes contol.
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>>145234258
I bet hes just sitting in Altdorf with 14 units of mortars.
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>>145234467
The Manderlys would have been able to save him.
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>>145234781
Thought that was a recreation of that scene from Kingdom of Heaven for a sec
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>>145231596
>>145231970
your desire for hats has been as constant as the mod itself anon

just 4 u
[spoiler} w dot filedropper dot com slash zombiehats[/spoiler]
unfortunately thats the highest hat ratio I can get, game seems to ignore 100% hats as the style overload clearly stresses the engine.
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Are high-res versions of the event pop-up art available anywhere?
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>>145235495
Try looking inside the game files
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>>145235343
you have blessed me on this day
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>Nagash was weak
what did he mean by this?
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>>145235890
He men tha nigga was wea' dog
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>>145235495
they are in data.pack/ui/eventpics

they are all tiny though. were you trying to make a wallpaper?
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Alright nerds, 10 pack of Polish steel AK mags arrived, and I wanna rattlecan some warhammer shit on them.

What are some stencil friendly Warhammer banners I could use?
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What a retarded fucking battle
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>>145234396
PLEASE RESPOND


Also, anyone tried out Molay's Magic Mod? I'm gonna bump up unit size to ultra and I want to know if this is gonna introduce more problems than it fixes. Like for example leech becoming a god spell
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Actually I found some loadscreen images.
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>>145236796
It's really good

Doesn't fix bombardment spells sadly since those got hitbox issues
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>>145236859
but the living soldiers, friend. can i recruit living soldiers as vampire counts? I need to make this campaign different in many ways
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>>145236859
Also it nerfs spirit leech, but vamp lore is actually really good
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>>145236410
The emperors finest
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>>145237041
Nope, only mod that does that is the Mousillon mod
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>>145237042
that's not bad at all, having nothing but that and invocation to spam was pretty sad for a hero with two winds of magic.

>>145237154
damn, for all the talk of sylvanian peasants being cool with von carsteins youd think there would be a mod
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>>145237071
That battle was in their favor btw
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>>145237248
Peasants being cool with Carsteins is more of a Vlad thing
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>>145234401
get the Better Autoresolve mod
it nerfs autoresolve OPness and distributes damage better so your generals and giants dont take half damage from a gobbo garrison
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So can XML files not be modded?
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>>145237801
notepad++ should open an xml file
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>>145237248
>sylvanian peasants being cool with von carsteins

that's just one vocal vampire apologist shitting up the threads.

nobody is cool with getting their souls sucked out of their bodies and turned into zombies.
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>>145237942
Thats not how it works m8
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>>145237942
I think vamps have thrall units in table top. Basically bretonnia's society except all the knights are vampires.
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>>145237893
I'm able to open them, but when I try to include one in PFM it doesn't seem to actually do anything. Like I don't think it's being loaded into the game.
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>>145235765
they do look lots cooler now i've figured out the variant colours within unit thing, It was meant to be anon. glad you enjoy it

MOUSILLON ONLY subfaction reskin INDIVIDUAL UNIT COLOURING OUT!
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/itemedittext/
more zombies is incorporated into this mod to the change, but I made updated it too
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696338475

if anyone already has either of the mods, just reboot the game
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>>145238060
she doesn't want your cock, anon.
she just wants your AB- blood.
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>>145238640
What if he gets an erection & plenty of blood in the cock?
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>>145238939
this kills the penis
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Whats the best way to start as Orcs?

What do Orcs have thats good vers dwarf shitters?
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>>145239425
wolf riders destroy dwarves. they route easily from hammer anvil charges, their armor doesnt even matter
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>>145239425
cavalry shreds them due to mobility. you still need some orc boyz, and big uns to hold em down though
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playing orcs on very hard, should I even bother using trolls?

they seem pretty useless so far, even if I try to keep them swarmed with orcs so they don't route they do it anyway and cause other units to route too
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>>145239706
they worked ok for me but you're probably better off with a giant, or more black orcs.
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>>145239425
>>145239531
I really wouldn't recommend wolf riders against dwarfs, at least use boar boys.
The goblin shitters will get destroyed by quarrellers, and NPC's often have 5+ of them in each army early game
Depends on difficulty though.
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Turn 90

Franz is currently benched because of the anal tearing he's getting.
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>>145239784
i only just unlocked the trolls and cant get either of those yet

ill keep my two units but i doubt ill make any more. the regen is nice though
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So there went like how many hours.

Total Bullshit. Fucking Chaos Stacks out of nowhere sieged Altdorf, and all my armies were fucked and couldn't get there in time so my income tanked, and all my armies would have burnt out from attrition by the time they got there, Franz and two others were smashing the Greenskins, Gelt was up in Nordland killing Varg shits, and two others were busy defending Averland from some random Skaeling shits.No way they would have all made it in time.

That is completely retarded, All my income apparently came from that one city.

It was also fucked because I had the entirety of Brettonia frog nations, Marienburg-Reikland-Nordland-Wissenland-Averland-Sylvania-and Stirland and I barely would make more than 2000 or less gold per turn.

Never had this income or Chaos problem as Greenskins. By the same amount of turns I had roughly 30,000 income.

I'm so very mad that the one time I leave Altdorf undefended, Chaos makes a BEELINE straight for it and I didn't notice. Legendary a shit.
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Any tips on how to deal with the Sassanigs as the White Huns? I can beat them in a straight up fight generally but their gorillion vassals keep shitting stacks at me.
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>>145240097
>he didnt build walls
lmao
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>>145240187
kill all of their vassals
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>>145240472
Not available on unique-settlement-chain/faction-capitals, senpai.
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>>145241375

>he lost with Altdorf's garrison
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>>145240097
Did you eventually win?
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>>145240097

I recently and painfully finished a legendary Empire run. I pretty much fucked up Middenheim, Nordland and the Ostland/Ostermarks. That said, you can bully the fuck out of pretty much everyone until the turn 100 chaos invasion starts. Then you can get alliances with people you were just murdering. The best thing to do in my opinion, is to slap Nordlands face in after killing Middenheim. Skaelings come down, so I left Karl Franz and won a few tough battles, eventually having Karl go north and razing a few of their ports before getting chased out. At the same time, I had 2 armies go for Sylvania. Wissenland never loved me, but they never actually attacked me so they became a big ally after absorbing Averland. There was a bit of diplomacy, but for the most aprt, it's about creating a big buffer of your own lands between Archaeon and Altdorf. Bretonnia seems to hop on your dick pretty easily, so I had a valuable trade partner and reliable defense from the south. So I only had to look north. I really don't know if theres an easy way to go about it, but if you can get a big buffer, as well as a bunch of allies as soon as Mega-Archaeon comes out of the woodwork, the dumbass AIs actually help quite a bit, and help you make a united stand against him.

If you take him down around Kislev then theres no risk of him going around.

>>145241501
>lol why didn't you beat legendary chaos horde with a garrison army haha
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Any decent rome 2 UI mods? Im finding it nearly impossible to stomach the game I feel a big reason is the UI taking up half my screen in battle and not being able to tell what the units are at a glance at the card.
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progress made towards lords only having the skin.
at least the unit is appearing in the selection porthole and works.

I figured out whatever I have to change as well its somewhere in agent_uniforms_table under uniform name. unfortunately what I can't figure out is what uniform name would be assigned to Mousillon
however kislev for example uses the following line to assign some of its special lords.
wh_main_uniform_ksl_captain
compare that to the standard empire captain entry.
wh_main_uniform_emp_captain_campaign_01


If I can figure out how to convert
wh_main_uniform_vmp_lord_campaign_01
to a Mousillon only variant then heros are fixed.
if anyone has any ideas I'm all for them
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>a level two dwarf garrison is a dwarf warrior, three miners, and two quarrelers

What the fuck. Why drop a warrior from level one? How am I supposed to stop a warboss with this trash? The quarrelers are the only units there worth a damn but miners can't hold a line for shit
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>turn 30
>Bretonia already has two paladins
>dont even have the buildings needed to build them
They hinder my army by killing hundreds of my skellies
wew
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I'm at turn 55, and I've only barely made it out of Reikland by taking Marienburg.

does anyone else play this slowly?
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Thorgrim or Ungrim?
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>>145242029
>couldnt beat any stack using greatswords, demigryphs, tanks, and Op as fuck towers

lmaoing at ur life
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>>145244580
One time in shogun I took all of the british isles then just built a fortune for a hundred turns before leaving. I do this in most total wars and strat games. Im fast to get my intial land under control then I turtle up for awile. I do this in total war alot because the AI moves so slow.
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>>145244717
towers?
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>>145244768
yes towers
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Has there been a first patch yet? Have we gotten any news when the FLCs and the first DLC is gonna hit?

And do we also know how well TWW sold compared to previous titles?
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>>145244717
>1 stack
stay on easy kiddo psh haha bet you can't even talk to girls haha
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starting my first campaign.

Is it a given to just play Empire b/c it's flexible or should I try a different race? (Thinking dwarves or vampire counts)
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>>145245058
Play whatever catches your fancy. Playing a faction just because of memes is retarded.
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>>145245058
You can start with pretty much anything. Empire is definitely the most well-rounded though and has great units of every type (infantry, cav, ranged, artillery) as well as access to really powerful wizards and melee lords. So if you want to experience everything try them out. But really it doesn't matter. I would say just avoid Chaos if it's your first TW game.
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>>145245015
>cant even fend off 1 stack
lmao
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>>145245058
my first campaign was chaos

if you're below hard mode, you're fine picking dwarves. they're a lot easier to play in-battle than the other factions.
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>>145245216
damn your army sucked dick pretty hard. maybe you should study up on your strategy.

did you post the right screenshot?
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>>145245374
No, it was me nearly defeating an army with 5 to 1 odds thanks to OP as fuck towers

If you cant defeat an invading army in Altdorf where you get OP units, you're legit awful
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>playing chaos
>a faction smaller then me wants a peace treaty but demands I pay 5000favor
>they are about to be destroyed but demand I pay for a peace treaty

Is chaos just fucked? It seems like factions demand payment where , if you were anything but chaos, they'd be offering payment
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>>145245472
you should have won though?

i never lost an altdorf siege, i was just saying the other guy is allowed to considering he was playing on legendary and lost to the chaos horde which typically has a couple stacks of veteran chosen rather than cavalry and mortars
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so what races will be dlc?
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>>145245631
Welcome to total war babe.
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>>145245631
the viking factions are either bugged out to demand instead of offer payments in diplomacy, or they're just cheeky fucks
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>>145232823

rollan
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Far too shallow. I've played every single Total War game, normally I'm spending weeks playing these games but I've done with this game, I haven't touched it since the first week.

If you're just after a Warhammer game, I think this will be fantastic for you, there's not that many good Warhammer Fantasy games out there.

If you're looking after a good Total War game, don't bother with this. The lessons of Rome 2 are completely unheeded with this, CA seem to have set out their stall and they're sticking to it. Rome 2, Attila and Warhammer have just continued down the road of streamlining all complexity out of their games.
I get they want the games to be accessible, but the tutorials and difficulty levels allow beginners to get into these games without taking out everything more serious fans, veteran players enjoy and even the beginners once they get to mid/end-game will find it shallow.

Because that's what this game is, shallow. The battles look fantastic, but they're over far too quickly, you don't get to admire the graphics and animations.
The engine is still the god awful one from the last couple of games so your units just end up as horrible blobs. The engine needs to go by the next game for certain.
The magic is not as impressive as they said it would be, certainly not game changing, mostly just more buffs and debuffs.
The AI actually however seems to have improved massively, I've not lost this many battles since Medieval 1.

The campaign map is pointless, a very simple puzzle game about where to place your buildings which you'll have solved by your third province anyway. There's no politics, there's barely any diplomacy or trade worth bothering with and there's just no interest in the campaign map other than getting to your next battle.

I hope they do much better in their next game.

pic very related, probably nearly every long time total war fan right now.
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>>145245814
All of the ones not included
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>>145246227
8/10 you put in the effort
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>>145246328

Just an opinion m8, no need to get your feathers all ruffled up.
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>>145246227

tis so very sad to see what could have been something truly beautiful turn out to be a total waste glad i didnt waste money on this. No battle formations? the fuck total war guys, sweet get a super shallow basic game AND the worlds most expensive and willingly paid for spyware.
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>>145246227

After rome II I knew this game would be bad. I get a feeling that CA is tired of these kind of games and will milk total war to death seeing there are still a lot of players that don't think before buying. I waited 6 months before buying rome II and it was still very bad and buggy. Never going to buy this one. its too bad.
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>>145246227

I agree it's been watered down a bit... as in, no river battles, and siege battles that have just 1-2 walls. But the flip-side is that there's no more annoying food/sanitation nonsense to worry about and cause every province to have the same buildings for the most part.
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>>145246227
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I'm a relative newcomer to this series (started with Shogun 2 and haven't played TW for quite some time now), and I'm having a bit of trouble with battles.

It's not that I can't win battles, I've gotten to turn 90-120 in two campaigns so far with plenty of wins.

But the thing is, very quickly you end up two a full doomstack of 20 units. How am I supposed to flank the enemy effectively with cavalry when he has enough units to evenly match my own, possibly even an equal amount of cavalry? Should I stretch out my front line and keep reserves, or spearmen to fend off the enemy cavalry?

Granted your unit composition is rarely the same as the enemy's, but if I'm using four units of cavalry to flank the enemy, he's four units up on me when he hits my frontline.

Also, if my archers fire from behind my frontline at an enemy fighting my frontline, does that mean their LOS is partly obstructed by my own frontline (unless they're up on a hill)?
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>>145246227
>just taking steam reviews and posting them on 4chan for (you)s
wew lass
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>>145246717
>>145246872
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>realized I can go to 1 to 30 incredibly fast by just sacking one town over and over

Shouldve done this sooner
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>>145246976
you are the only one doing damage control t'bh anon
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>>145246872
>>145247040
you can't blame him for livening up the usually dead hours
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>>145247040

How so?

>t'bh anon

heh
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>>145246227
The worst part is reading the Q&A and having the dev mention that they will continue down this road and wont be adding more complexity.

Theres shit all to do in the campaign screen. You can keep out squalar and food if everyone hates it so much, but at least add other things to care about it.

The quest system would be nice if it was more than a handful of set battles and useless faction requests.
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>No DLC news
>No patch news
>No blood and gore
>No info from CA whatsoever

I WANT MORE UPDATE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145246840
if your cav can't beat the enemy's 1 on 1, whittle the enemy down beforehand using ranged or support your own cav with some spears/halberds
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>>145247324
>sales are mediocre
>CA hurries more dlc and updates
>sales are good
>CA sit back feeling smug and telling everyone asking about more content to fuck off

The launch hype is wearing off, they should have capitalized on it and kept everyone in the loop instead of playing gestapo.
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>>145247989

yeah they gotta keep the fanbase going, maybe they are waiting for E3?
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>>145247949
WHAT TOTAL WAR IS THIS?
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>>145249340
On the off chance this isn't bait, thats Xcom familam
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>>145249515
I'm pretty sure he asked this because you're in Total War general

So why the fuck are you posting Xcom ?
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Rate my ultramarines
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>>145249637
I didn't post it, I am just answering his question
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>>145243124
jesus fuck that's a sexy vamp lord
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Whay perks do you guys give to Thorgrim Grudgebearer?
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>tfw Want to go back to Orc campagin
>tfw dont want to deal with losing half my army to agents
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Warriors of Chaos are DLC01, we know this.
Now if this image is true and Beastmen are going to be the third DLC and Wood Elves the fifth, what are /twg/'s guesses for the second and fourth DLC?
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>>145250747
Just get an agent mod, then.
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>>145251046

Bretonnia is probably the second DLC.
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>>145251046
OGRE KANGZ
SKAVEN
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>>145251046
Brettonia is #2
#4 will be Skaven.
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>>145251046
>second
Brets
>fourth
Skaven
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>>145251046
>WE nr5
>that giant fucking eyesore forest of them will be unburnable untill then
fuuuck
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how about those fucking shields /twg/
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>>145251046
>so many ratfuckers
ogres coming through you furry australian faggots
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Nigger, that's my entire goddamned treasury. What the fuck're you gonna do with all that money, huh?
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>>145252139
420 evryday for 100 days
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>>145252139
It's alright you can depend on him
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>>145252139
Ouchi that's a lot of money
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>>145236386
wow Anon, nobody cares
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>>145252139
>power: feeble
>prosperity: destitute
>attitude: hostile
>provinces: 1
>enemy with one of your existing trade partners
Literally why are you bothering with him?
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>>145252660
The game opens up the diplomacy menu when the AI bothers with you
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>>145252660
If you'll look over on the left, you'll see I just trade with everybody I can.
Also, I usually extract 1000s of koku as payment for these trade agreements, which is why I'm so fucking rich.
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>>145252746
I know that, but honestly I would've just taken one look at the screen, realized he was shitting me and skipped to continue my turn.

>>145252750
>I just trade with everybody I can
I can see that.
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Can someone explain to me the difference between Melee Attack and Weapon Strengh in Warhammer?

And which one should I prioritize ?
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>>145252894
Weapon Strength
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>>145252894
Melee attack effects the chances of you hitting each person in your swing. Weapon strength is the damage aspect, and that's what you should prioritize.
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>>145252894
difference: weapon strength is actually useful
priority: weapon strength
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>>145252853
I was the one who approached him. This was his counter-offer. I laughed my ass off, screencapped, then rejected it.
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So how is playing the Dwarves fun in any way?

The Greenkins literally spam stacks at you, the AI abuses the fuck out of Force March, so you can never attack them, and if you do manage to catch an army, its in a settlement with Garrison back up, or you chase them around your territory forever as they sack it, then go straight back to Force March and continue to run away. Then while you do that, the fifty other tribes in the area will run amok raiding and adding pages to the Grudge Book.

Then because of this retarded ass army system, raising a secondary army costs a ridiculous amount of dosh, and the generals 90% of the time have some kind of meme epic debuff trait.

Is there a mod that severely nerfs the shit out of Forced March, or stops the AI from cheating and abusing their infinite omnipotence knowing how far you can move or not? I can't remember having any problems like this in any other Total War
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>>145252953
>>145252989
>>145253015
Thanks guys
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Finished a Dwarfs campaign. What should I do next?

Empire seems to play similar with weaker infantry and artillery, but actually have cavalry available.

I'm thinking Greenskins, but I'm on the fence.
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>>145253078
>or stops the AI from cheating and abusing their infinite omnipotence knowing how far you can move or not?
Yeah it's calling lowering the difficulty anon
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>>145253078
ever heard of a thing called "ambushing" anon
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>>145253078
l2underway
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>>145253256
Empire actually has infantry on-par with the dwarves, and relatively cheaper with a better economy. They also don't have 4 orc factions singling them out as well. Steam tanks although technically not "artillery" fill the artillery role and every role in the book better than anything mechanical that any other faction, including the dwarfs, can field.

Greenskins are the most fun faction though.
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>>145253078
>stops the AI from cheating and abusing their infinite omnipotence knowing how far you can move or not?
unless they changed it in warhammer, you can check how far the AI can move as well, just click on them or hover over them without a general or agent selected
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>>145251467
man M2 really aged well
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>>145253470
>Steam tanks although technically not "artillery" fill the artillery role and every role in the book better than anything mechanical that any other faction, including the dwarfs, can field.
Even including dedicated artillery? I would assume those rocket boxes of theirs would be pretty nasty.

>Greenskins are the most fun faction though.
It was very frustrating dealing with Savage Orcs, just spamming full stacks of boar riders. God what I'd have killed for some decent spears or pikes as the Dwarves.
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>>145222759
>pastebin
>Warhammer "speculatively" ranked #11
>below Empire and Rome 2
>Napoleon ranked #2

lmao

What pansexual furry neo-Nazi yiffmaster curates the /vg/ Total War pastebin?
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>>145253832
campaign when
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>>145254220
I agree, we need to change it up

OFFICIAL /TWG/ TOTAL WAR GAMES POWER RANKINGS* (As of [June 12th]) (Stand alone titles only) (All patches and mods taken into consideration)

1. Warhammer
2. Shogun 2 FotS
3. Shogun 2
4. Age of Charlemagne
5. Shogun 2
6. Attila
7. Rome 1 and BI
8. Empire
9. Napoleon
10. Rome Alexander
11. Rome 2
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>>145254426
>Napoleon
>being below Empire
>or anything else
SACRE BLEU
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>>145254220
nappy is severely underappreciated, its has good gunpowder combat, without cannons dominating it too much as opposed to FOTS and an actually interesting setting. And it has the best MP in the franchise

that list in the pastebin is shit, dont get me wrong, but if we are talking pure vanilla ranking I'd place Nappy as number 2-3 as well
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>>145244863

no news on patch yet. no news on when dlc/flc will drop.

TWWH is the fastest selling TW title to date, and will most likely be the most sold to date as well
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>>145246227

I'm with this guy, but not because I don't like the game. Finished VH Dwarfs and about to finish Legendary VC and I think I'm done until a few patches and maybe some DLC hits. I've played other TW games, but not very extensively, so I'm probably going back to Shogun 2 and seeing what happens from there. If nothing else, this is the best Warhammer fantasy game made so far. The MMO was so severely mismanaged it wasn't funny, and 40k has the Dawn of War games.
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I'm playing Empire and I am currently fighting Greenskins and I've run into problems

My army comp is Greatswords, Demigryphs, Crossbowmen and Mortars

The problem is, the Orcs bring trolls into melee which tear up my Greatswords, and they have a lot of skirmisher cav (and archers in general) so I can't use my demigryphs effectively, as soon as I move them beyond my flanks they get hounded down by missile cav.

Should I use my demigryphs together with my infantry line to destroy the trolls, and just protect my flanks with crossbows - forget about moving my demigryphs out into the field to try and flank?

As dwarfs I would just protect the flanks and put two quarrelers on their skirmisher cav which destroyed them, but it doesn't work here. Crossbowmen are shit and I don't bring as many missile infantry because I bring cav now as Empire
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>>145254906
I'd try focus firing on the trolls with the crossbowmen, then flanking around with the demigryph knights to mop them up, or at least make them rout
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>>145254906

How to counter trolls

>a single spear unit
>a single halberd unit
>a cannon
>a siege tank
>a single demigryph, either variety
>karl
>hellblaster
>guns

Pick any of these
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>>145255135
>>145255080
It's not the trolls themselves that are the problem, it's the mix of trolls with a lot of skirmishers (and skirmish cav) that tie me down

Do you think I should ignore the missile cav and archers entirely until the trolls are routed by crossbowmen? And just let the missile cav fire on my flanks/demigryphs uncontested?

Also I hired all my demigryphs with halberds so they'd be good against monsters, is this a mistake?
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Allright lads, just got this game and I want to play as the indisputably best race at least until Skaven are released , the Dawi.

What are the absolute must have units for my forces, what should I avoid that sounds good on paper, but sucks in game?

Any tips for general Dwarven play? Which direction should I start conquering in off the get go?
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What's the best overhaul mod for Rome 1? I remember being interested in EB, but hearing that it was maybe a bit overboard in the realism department and sacrifices fun. But I was also told it gets rid of squalor, which I remember having to spam peasants to get rid of and thinking was a shit mechanic.
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>>145255325
You fucked up you dumb stupid fucking idiot
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>>145255427

Quarrelers for the whole game and get ranged damage skills. You have no cav, you need your ranged to be strong to hold off the enemies who do and to shred the infantry held in place with your own. Same goes for grudge throwers.

Gyrocopters cost too much and do shit all for damage. Some people say the ones with the flamethrowers suck, but I had fun using them to burn the vamps on my way north during my long campaign.

You want to get Mount Gunbad, as it has a special income building. Don't rush it or you'll get fucked from behind by the orcs, but do try and get it before Zhufbar unless you feel like fighting your own kind or waiting until you can get them to join you.

Kill savage orcs early if you can find a good way to do so. They snowball super hard and are probably the hardest orc faction to fight.
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>>145255325
WHERES THE ANIME GIRL
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>>145222759

Which Warhammer race has the best waifus?
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>>145255427
My whole dwarf campaign I played with half my infantry being shield dwarfs up front and the other half being quarrelers

Just remember to protect your flanks, the AI will always try to flank you I always place a dwarf unit (or two sometimes) facing the side on each flank, together with two quarrelers facing diagonally

Also always put them on defensive stance, that way you can tell your quarrelers to attack something and when it routs they don't chase after it they just stay put and attack other stuff
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>>145256114
Depends what you're into

I personally want a pure and loyal Kislevite Ice Queen
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>>145223126
someone ban this guy
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What's better, Hellblasters, Great Cannons or Steam Tanks?

Are Steam Tanks even good for taking down walls, towers etc?
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>>145256547

Steam Tanks are in the top 3 most broken units in the game.
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>>145256547
Steam tanks are just as effective as tanks, however they arent classified as a siege weapon so they dont allow you to attack walled settlements without a siege device

Hellblasters are hot garbage

Cannons are decent, and amazing if you micro them
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>>145255427
>What are the absolute must have units for my forces
quarellers if you can't be arsed to micro your skirms, thunderers if you can (you should always have atleast one of those in case grimgor pops in though
>what should I avoid that sounds good on paper, but sucks in game?
slayers, gyrocopters/bombers
>Any tips for general Dwarven play? Which direction should I start conquering in off the get go?
you start of surrounded from the get go , and every gap in your line will usually cause another grudge capture your starting province and then immediately head north leaving a token force behind to stop the orks from capturing anything in the silk road and besiege mount gundabad (or take it by storm if they haven't built up a strong garrison yet) forming an alliance with the dwarves that you meet up north is your best bet for a quick victory there and in my play trough they confedded with me right after
after your northren border is relatively secure ( build garrisons alongside the sylvania border ) you can start expanding into the badlands , confeding with barak varr is a good option as it opens up trade (and you will have loads of tradeable rescources at this point ) but be aware that the further into the badlands you go the bigger provinces get , and the orks tend to raid newly captured provinces resulting in a game of wack a mole trying to get your grudges fixed
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I love the diplomacy dialogue in WH.
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>>145255445
Rome Total Realism has the right mix of added depth while not going full autism for me
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>>145232823

Rollin
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>>145224285
>muh own original character who is a good guy
you fucking wot m8, first of all thats the base game's leader and secondly he's a fucking faggot like all vampires
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>>145232823
69 get
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is there any more of a based ally than the border princes when you're playing dwarfs? they've practically taken the badlands for me
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>>145257414

They saved me from the orcs when Chaos was knocking at my gates.
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What's your favorite faction in Warhammer right now?
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>>145224285

Just use the basic faction unlocker you dum-dum
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>>145256114
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>>145256114
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>>145257830

Himyarite Jews
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>>145257414
They never moved a finger for me

I'm just glad they want to be friends because once I took all the orcs lands down there I turned them into an economic powerhouse with no defense
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how the fuck do you kill dorfs as vampires? You can't walk deep into their mountain range because of fucking attrition and encampment doesn't exist for them.
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>>145258375

Raiding stance
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>>145258429
that stops attrition? Huh.
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When I try and start up Warhammer it gives me an error message saying "Not subscribed to Steam. Are you sure you're launching from the Steam launcher?" but I am launching it from Steam

Has anyone had this happen before?
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>>145258157
They kept my hands clean, and took out Barak Varr for me, and since they can't settle in the badlands like I dwarf can, they just leave every city they come across ripe for settling.

>>145258471
Yeah
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>>145258471
>that stops attrition? Huh.

It does, yes.

I'd insult you, except that I was also bad at reading every single tooltip and minutiae my first couple of campaigns.
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>>145232823

Rollin'.

Pls don't be Empire.
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what the fuck is happening in my ass-backwards campaign? is this going to be it? am i finally going to complete this stupid fucking legendary campaign?

is this the run?
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>>145258732
>I'd insult you

Why? What do you gain from hurting his feelings you big bully?
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>>145257414
They are even more based as an enemy playing orcs

>not a single defending army besides default garrisons
>every city raid nets 5-30k gold
>always offers peace if you want to take a break

Who needs allies when you got enemies like these
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>>145258902
>11 provinces
i'm dying

do i throw it all away?
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The Greenskins snowballed out of control in my game

I fucked them up, and razed like 10 settlements near my Empire borders, but the dwarfs just won't go occupy them

Now every 5 turns the Greenskins arrive at Castle Drakenhof with 5-8 full stacks
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Maybe it's just me, but the best part of playing Dwarfs is having an entire front that's an invisible wall at one end of the map.

Once you own that entire strip of mountains from north to south, you've only got one front to deal with, and a lot of it's blocked by mountains.

Vampire Counts have it the worst, in the middle of fucking everything. I just started a VC campaign, took all of Sylvania, and I'm not really sure where to go next. I suppose I'll start whacking away at humans to the west, but I'll still be dealing with a 360-degree front.
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>>145259118

Yeah I've seen a single Greenskins settlement (one faction) that I forgot about produce a strong doomstack and a WAAAGH!!! after just a handful of turns, using a Lord I'd recently killed.

The AI cheats massively and gets big economic boosts, seems to be allowed to cheat (recruiting shit it doesn't have the buildings for), so it's impossible to properly gauge their capabilities since there's just so much fucking cheating.
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>>145259118
Also I just wanted to say the fact that Forced March armies can reinforce is pure bullshit

If they cannot initiate combat, they should not be able to join combat period

The Greenskins just bring one stack first, I move somewhere near it, then they bring 5 stacks with forced march and use the one stack to initiate combat

If there's a mod that completely removes forced march from the game I would use it. It's been a terrible mechanic from the day they introduced it.
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>>145258732
wanna hear something funny? I've already beaten campaigns at legend and currently exclusively play at very hard or above, I just never got into a situation where I needed to fight the attrition battle without encampment stance or anything else.
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>>145259338
The Greenskins have 32 settlements right now, their capabilities are insane regardless of cheating

There doesn't seem to be any way to bring them under control, even if I start razing all their shit there's really no way for me to replenish troops, since I can't occupy their lands and the dwarf refuse to cap the settlements I raze
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>>145258967
>Why? What do you gain from hurting his feelings you big bully?

Normies get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145222759
Who else /StoppedPlayingUntilPatchIsHere/?

even though im still on my first campaign
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>>145259624
I am NOT a fucking normie!

Normies bullied me my entire life and made me feel bad. NORMIES ARE THE FUCKING DEFINITION OF BULLIES

NORMIES ARE NOTHING BUT BULLYING, HATRED, LUST, AND GREED AMALGAMATED INTO ONE DISGUSTING BEING

BULLYING YOUR FELLOW /TWG/ERS MAKE YOU MORE A FUCKING NORMIE THAN ANYONE ELSE HERE

*UNSHEATHES WAKIZASHI*

LEAVE THIS FUCKING PLACE

*RUNS AT YOU WITH BLADE IN HAND*

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

*SLICES YOU INTO THE FUCKING AIR*

*JUMPS UP AND SLICES YOU FROM EVERY DIRECTION 200 TIMES A SECOND WITH SUCH PRECISION THAT I'M SLICING EVERY FUCKING MOLECULE*

TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*SLAMS YOU INTO THE GROUND MAKING A HUGE FUCKING CRATER*

*PULLS OUT DUAL HANDCANNONS AND UNLOADS 200000 BULLETS INTO YOUR BODY TURNING YOU INTO A RED PASTE*

*falls to the ground and starts breathing heavily*

i'm not......

I'm Not A Fucking Normie!!!!!!!
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>>145259861
Only a normie would exaggerate and run his mememouth like that

You are a phonie to boot
>>
Has anyone tried KAM's combat mod for TWWH yet?
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TOMORROW AT E3'S PC GAMING SHOW, NEW WARHAMMER STUFF IS GOING TO BE ANNOUNCED, POSSIBLY THE FIRST EXPANSION
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when did this thread become a refuge for /r9k/ autism?
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>>145259861
Saved for future content, Lady bless you, anon.
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>tfw boar boy big uns shatter a halberd demigryph unit and then successfully chase them down until it is wiped out completely
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>>145259861

8/10

Nice effort if you actually wrote that out yourself.
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>>145259969

>first expansion

the game hasn't even been out for a month, if you're not already baiting, then I'd guess its just a faction DLC or MAYBE a mini-campaign DLC
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>>145259923
Fuck off
>>145260019
Thanks
>>145260110
Thanks I did
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>>145260209
Phony Jabronie
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>>145260119
CA representative here, it's going to be Skaven + underworld map that seamlessly combines with overworld.
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so tell me, are demigryphs worth taking?
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>>145260119
CA representative here, it's going to be Dogs of War + a mercenary system I think you guys are going to love.
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>>145260494
Joey here, this guy is a fraud

Actually we'll be showing off our Nippon and Cathay DLC
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>>145260545
CA representative here, it's going to be a Wood Elves + Beastmen campaign map that seamlessly combines with the rest of the campaign.
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>>145260545
I wouldnt mind seeing Joey's Nippon if you know what i mean
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>>145260463
Very worth taking.

>>145260779
>seamlessly combines with the rest of the campaign
Not that hard to do, given that we already have Athel Loran on the map, and also huge swathes of forested area in Middenland. I sometimes think 3 settlements for a province of its size is too few, so might very well be that the pointy ears get a settlement there.
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>>145259990
When I post like that I do it ironically. I assume many others do the same.
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>>145259990
What do you mean anon?
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>>145260463

They're arguably the best unit in the entire game
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>>145260856
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I just beat a battle that had a full red bar!

It was Karl Franz (level 28) versus Grimgor (level 27), Azhag (level 20something) and one more Greenskin stack

They had a lot of trolls and mounted units

One of my demigryphs got 407 kills. Another got wiped out. I also lost my Witch Hunter

My Karl Franz started the fight at half hp, and when he killed Grimgor he had just a sliver of HP left. But he had done so much damage by that point, 130+ kills most of them trolls and other big shit

I can't show you a screenshot, fraps doesn't work with this game.
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>>145260798
I'm more interested in her skavenblight swamp really
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>>145261059
>using the Elector Count of Reikland
>having Altdorf as your capital
P O O I N L O O
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>>145260846
I havent even begun
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>>145260978
That's such a ugly word. I prefer funposting.
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>>145261125
Cuck Franz is NOT my Emperor. Boris "The Bull" Todbringer, not Cuck Franz.
>>
Now that the dust has settled, we all agree that warhammer total war was bit of a disappointment, right? It's clearly unfinished and a good chunk of the game has been set aside for paid DLC.

Simply put, it's bare-bones, lazy, unfinished and missing many things that the previous TW games had (durrrr like towns with walls).


also chaos faction is a complete and utter fing joke. i swear every year devs just get lazier and lazier because they know they'll make a shid ton of money regardless.

cant wait for the DLC that makes chaos not feel like a boring pile of poop to play that feels like it was made by some b-tier modder.
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>>145259364
I feel like forced march as a legitimate use. If your empire is really big and you want to get from one place to another forced march could be enabled for 75% of your movement points on this turn but give you 150% movement on the next turn and each consecutive turn. Switching out of it would cost 75% again. So basically if you really want to get through your territory you can force march it but it's not a tool that can ever be used in enemy territory because the turn you switch into it you are a sitting duck.
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>>145261340
>i've seen this post before
it's still relevant though
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>>145261414
Forced march should cause attrition outside your own territory
And you should not be able to reinforce while in forced march
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>>145261435
Stop eating your own stale pasta, it's not good for your health
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>>145261340
I know this is a shitpost, but the lack of good AI and unit balance kind of made this game less than it could be.
I don't really care about the DLC stuff because they did a fairly good job at emulating the tabletop units, except for some units that will be released DLC/freeLC (mortis engine/blood knights etc...)
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>>145261340
I agree. Is there even a TW general that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu.
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>>145261340

I've gotten bored of this faster than any of the other TW games. I've begun to auto resolve equal battles I know I can win because I don't even want to play. That's a stupid thing to keep doing, so I'm going to go play Shogun where every battle is enjoyable and over in 30 seconds.
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>>145261469
forced march is a broken mechanic, borders should have more use than just a map paint
seriously having greenskins trespass on my lands without them worrying about getting rekt by my 10x superior strength is ridiculous
military access is a meme right now
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>>145261601
yeah what the fuck is going on with that. On large territories you can basically never punish some faggot AI that wants to raid at the outskirts of that particular territory.
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>>145261340
I called it that from day one, but some retards cant look past their own hype boners and acted like its GOTY.

+Standalone 2 and 3 is going to make or break it on my list.
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>>145261580
>>145261737

/THREAD
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>>145261737
not really, it's already a bestseller and widely acclaimed and has established a really solid foundation for the games to come. The series and its follow ups are pretty much confirmed to be the best total war yet and even the next patch will improve the game exponentially.
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>>145262068
>it's already a bestseller and widely acclaimed

Those dont really mean much beyond the avoidance of a launch disaster and the fact fantasy has a bigger draw.

The other points are optimistic but we cant tell until everything falls into place.
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>>145262068

rofl. get a load of this fgt.
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>>145262068

A large portion of those sales are people who like Warhammer and are tired of shitty mobile quality games and just want something to play. They may have never even touched another TW game. If this were another historical entry, I imagine the numbers would be similar to any of the previous entries. They say nothing about the quality of the game.
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>>145261340
It certainly needs more content

I stopped playing now after winning the campaign with GS and VC

The campaign just feels too small and repetitive
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>>145261580
>I'm going to go play Shogun where every battle is enjoyable and over in 30 seconds
top tier b8
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>>145262472

Don't worry, friend. Once all of the Expansions and DLCs are out, you can buy all of them to experience TW:WH as it was meant to be, now give us your shekels.
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>>145262472
and yet Attila offers less variety seeing as there is essentially 4 ways a campaign can go: hordes (travel about razing everything), desert (trying to beat sassanids and ERE), Empire (ERE and WRE try to survive) and Barbar(frank saxon kill romans build empire fight huns). Every faction in Warhammer has very different means of achieving the victory conditions and if they factions stay as varied it'll be 16+ different campaigns.
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>>145262693

That's how it is in the base game though. Lots more cav micro since literally everyone has spears, but battles are over relatively quickly and nobody has spells or other gimmicks that may be wholly unavailable to your own faction.
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>>145262935

>The factions have access to distinct tools is bad

Oh lord.

Don't tell me there are who actually think that every faction being 60% recolored spearmen is a GOOD thing.
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>>145263398
Spearmen is love
Spearmen is life
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>>145232823

i'll give it a whirl I suppose
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>>145263564
congratulations, you got yourself caught
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>>145229669
Dark Elven Witches kill citizens for fun
I hope their outfits will cause some pain when they're added
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Who's prepared for the Skeleton War?
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>>145264156
That vargheist has an amazon jungle down there
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>>145264225
>when you take a wrong turn in the bad side of town
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>>145264302
>I heard you talking shit
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>>145264156
>not naming your units their german names
>not sending legions of skelett krieger and wargfleder at the Empire

German is the language of war.
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>>145232823
roll
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GOTREK & FELIX DLC WHEN
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>>145264465
>black knights (lances and barding)
>SCHWARZLANZENREITER
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>>145264608
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>not playing on Ultra unit-size
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Ok I've had enough is there a mod that removes forced march, makes it impossible to reinforce in forced march, or makes it cause attrition?

The mechanic is beyond broken
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>>145264608
>>145264706
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>>145264302

>Patiently awaiting a mod that changes the vargheist model to a slayer one, allowing VC to field flying dwarves that propel themselves using their axes and bitter hatred
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>>145264608
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>>145264767
I know, im always stuck in February. Fuck this.
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How do I ranged army as Empire?

>Crossbows
Can shoot from behind your troops, but no armor pierce

>Pistoliers
Shit range, can they shoot from behind my troops?

>Outriders
Fast, but can they shoot from behind my troops?


I really need some ranged troops to go with my greatswords, but which troop is the least shit?
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>>145264993
STEAM TONK
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>>145264608

>that army name
>that army composition
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>>145264918
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Playing VC and suddenly lost all my black cats...

Anyone know why?
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>>145265183
Note that they're not all lancers, to represent the deceased Adalbert von Fahrenheit.
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there are people in this thread who haven't played every total war game since the original shogun.
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>wolf-riders catch horse-riding pistoliers
>boar-riders catch demigryphs
>demigryphs can't catch spider-riders
What the fuck game
Is this the AI cheating?
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>>145264993
Go with outriders. If you use them to skirmish at the start of the battle and then put them behind your troops they'll get to spend a lot of their ammo. If the enemy lets you shoot their infantry in the back while fighting your infantry they will perform even better. Just remember they can't handle melee at all.
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>>145265440
>there are people in this thread who don't know how to greentext
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>>145265382

>deceased Adalbert von Fahrenheit

Nice touch.
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>>145264608
like pottery
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>>145265440
I've only played Third Age mod for M2 before this
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>>145265558
well shit. please forgive me senpai
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>>145265045
>steam tanks

Nah, I need something useful to dump points in pic related in.

Besides, I want an army that is only infantry and cav, no tanks or rocket shit.


Would the Charge Bonus from "speed of horse" even apply to outriders? They don't do melee damage.
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>>145223996
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>>145265786
guess what, in the follow up to those 4 skills you can get ward save for your demigryphs and steam tanks
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>>145225870

Rollan.
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>>145266005
I love this bitch
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>>145266005

>Jutes

But that's what I am already playing for fuck sake. Reroll.

>>145266051
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>>145223570

You could put him in a province that has a Temple. What's the worse that could happen.

HYUK HYUK HYUK
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>>145265976
>you will never be her mon'keigh captive

why live?
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>>145264608
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>>145266154
Well, just to be safe, deploy Akechi Mitsuhide with a fullstack to look after him, I'm sure that will make things better.
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>>145224039
>>145224039
>>145224039

BEST GAME OF MY CHILDHOOD SENPAI

>back forth back and forth
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>>145265976

Yes, but that still doesn't help me to know where to put the 3 skillpoints to finish the first tree?
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>>145265382
>Deceased

Please don't remind me.
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>>145265976

>Demigryphs and steam tonkas get FREE ward save from the army tree

>Meanwhile every single one of the VC upgrades consists of charge bonus and melee hit.
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>>145266315
I don't understand what the difficult choice is here, get honest steel for +12 attack and defense on swords, spears and halberds. Unless you want a really crossbow/handgunner heavy army, then get pistolkorps. I don't know why anyone would get speed of horse, honestly, they're already basically fast enough and the charge bonus is pretty shit cos they just shoot stuff anyway. You probably don't have more than a few in an army anyway unless you're doing some outlandish shit.
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>>145266315
pistolkorps and hold the line, you need 4 to progress
unless you don't plan on bringing at least 4 ranged inf
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>>145232823
Roll
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>>145265440
>played everything since shogun except for napoleon and attila

I guess I don't like expacks
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>>145265464

You could always just look at their Speed stat and compare them.

Why would you want Demigryphs to be even more OP anyway?
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How do you fend off a 30+ settlement faction when you can't capture their settlements?

Is there even a point to start razing their shit? They spawn 7-8 stacks within 3-4 turns anyway
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>>145267007
You build loads of armies and methodically wipe them off the face of the earth.
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>>145228025
>Witch Hunters are the strongest heroes for empire

Sniping enemy generals and making their entire army flee from sheer terror from loss of leadership

They're useless against mobs though
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>>145267357

Accusation is broken and stupid.

I hope somebody mods it to work closer to how it is in the tabletop
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>>145234781

I like this post
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>>145267473

Gee I wonder who's responsible for this post.

maybe some Empire hating chaos scum.

I don't think you've praised Sigmar enough my man.
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How do I do this? The guy I'm at war with is to the north and it'll be two turns before I can reach the city, so I would have to suffer winter attrition and get there depleted.

To the east is an ally which is ok I guess but will be annoying later thanks to broken treaties when I want to move in and take their land.

Now even when I get the guy to the north, I can't just leave the province because of public order issues, giving the 4th faction on the island to the north east plenty of time to shit out a stack.
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>>145266256
> I'm sure that will make things better

Sure did.
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>>145267883

>wait three turns
>build up some dosh
>get more line infantry
>disband spear revy
>attack north territory
>attack east and north east territory
>control the entire island
>turtle and focus one province on military, others on eco
>build decent navy

Wow. So hard.
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What School of Magic should I build?
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>>145268571
The Altdorf College of Magic. That way you get a useless LL.
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>>145268571
bright wizards were pretty crazy last I checked
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>>145268571
this fucking ui. Its horrific.
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>rome 2 doesn't have a 1:1 copy of the historical paintings of Carthage when sieging Carthage

Lazy fucks.
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How do I even play on Very Hard?

>Turn 80
>Own two whole provinces and some loose resource settlements
>Can only afford two army stacks
>Can't build any good units because I have an income of 300
>Can't take any major settlement because I need both my stacks to do so
>Chaos comes and razes my shit if I leave any one of my provinces undefended
>Chaos corruption everywhere
>Everyone is unhappy
>Nobody wants to trade
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>>145269268

>How do I even play on Very Hard?

You don't.
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>>145269268
First of all remove difficulty penalty for loyalty because it's pointless bullshit anyway.
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>>145269268
I've completed every campaign on very hard. My advice is build walls in every settlement, this is a priority. This allows you to leave things unattended.

Don't expand too quickly, or only expand as fast as you can manage the defence of each city. As in how quickly you can build walls or how many armies you have to defend un-walled settlements.

Don't start silly wars, think things through.

When confederating don't do it haphazardly. Make sure you have some strong forces or a strong economy before you confederate.
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>>145269268
>>145269467
are you guys just shit or something? I've played multiple campaings on very hard/legend and it's piss easy.
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Is it worth investing into melee attack for the big Franz? I'm 5 levels from maxing him and already have all the health and damage skills, but it seems like the unit buffing skills seem like they might be more useful.
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>>145269724
>melee attack, the most useless stat
>instead of delicious ward save for Demigryphs and Steam Tanks (red line)
>instead of Lightning Strike (blue line)
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>azhag the slaughterer

don't you mean....

*puts on sunglasses*

Assbag the Farterer?
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>looking at Attila factions
>those Caledonian bonuses to hero actions
Is that as strong as it appears to be?
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So I just finished turn 55 on my dwarf campaign and I suddenly cannot end my turn or save. Did I just brick my campaign?

What do /twg/?
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So im like 70 turns in, and I still have no idea what units I should be prioritizing with vampire counts.
Honestly, im not 100% sure what most of the units are good for. In my mind (this is my first grand strat), I follow basic upgrade path mentality.

Zombies are the fodder and should be front and make about 50% of your army.
Sword skeletons are good if you dont have spear zombies.
Spear zombies are better than sword zombies
Bats are better than spear zombies
big monster bat is good in general
zombie dragon is better than bats

Now, I know that this is 100% wrong, and im trying to learn, but god damn if this game doesnt tell you jack shit.
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>>145269563
>must rush north or you're up against 12 norsca doomstacks + chaos
>cheese battles with OP units and autoresolve
yeah legendary is great
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>>145269945
Is the advisor pop-up still active on the upper left?
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>>145269996
Yes, it even took me to the diplomacy screen with the Empire but the menu didn't pop up.
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>>145269549
>>145269563

It's mostly the economy that feels bad whilst the AI's is insanely strong. They field so many units when I can field so little which makes taking provinces from someone that you aren't stabbing in the back really hard.

>>145269527

How do I do this?
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>>145269967
nigga just use lightning strike. If I had to write a legend guide the most important thing I level on my main general is always lightning strike. No doomstack cheese required if you take away the AI's advantage of ganging up on you with their cheated resources.
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>>145270057
Close the advisor pop-up first.
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>>145265440

>there are people in this thread
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>>145269951
zombies are shit and you should only use them if you're poor or literally want a couple of them to send after missile cavalry or something to distract them

skellies are good frontline units if you're poor or can't get grave guards yet

bats are good and cost efficient, vargheists are essentially a somewhat less cost efficient upgrade, send flying units after artillery, missile cavalry, light cavalry, archers

Basically your goal should be to get grave guards to have good frontline guys, THEY should make up 50% of your army, then have some black knights, lancers preferred, for flanking shock charges, and monsters for the same thing. Crypt horrors are fucking mint, terrorgheists are great flying guys but fucking expensive, crypt ghouls are a bit shit and you might as well get more grave guards but use crypt ghouls in flanking attacks if you want them, also dogs are good if you want cheap cavalry-like things
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>>145270151
Did that and the end turn button and save are grayed out.

I can't move my stacks/heroes but I can do diplomacy and tech, what the fuck CA?

I even turned off my custom mod and still no dice. I have a save file 5 turns earlier and it still happens even after just end turn spamming.
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>>145270102
oh great now you just have to beat rank 9 stacks having shit morale while the enemy just can not rout, and they reappear 2 turns later
I've played legendary and come to the conclusion that it's retarded
the way you beat it is with cheese
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>>145225870
roll, pls no rome
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>>145270285
on my legend empire campaign I didn't have to "cheese" anything. The AI is retarded and doesn't know how to use its cheated resources.
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Attila the Everchosen mod when
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>>145270234
What about Black Coach
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>>145270421
I want attila to replace archaon and for the Romans to be a faction. would be great
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>>145270421
>new diplomacy dialogue
COME. SIT. SHARE MY FIRE.
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>>145270439
People always say it's shit, I actually never built any on my VC campaign. By the time you actually get around to being able to build one (unless you rush it for some fucking reason) you can probably afford to build one or two and see how they go. They seem fun, at least.
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What is with the steam community giving so many negative reviews?

People with 50-100 hours saying the game is good, then saying it lacks content so its not recommended.

If you have 100 hours in a game how can it have no content? Its unusual to even get a game that lasts over 15 hours these days, and people dont complain about content for them.
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>>145270491
>>145270421
I hope when we've got model importing sorted that some ambitious guys turn the Tilea faction into Rome from Rome II.

That would be great.
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>>145270605
Basically the only people who bother to review are whiny shits

In the past few days I've been on the steam pages for a load of fucking excellent games and they all have negative reviews because people are butthurt at balance patches or whatever
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>>145270421

Charlemagne as Prince and Emperor mod when?
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>>145270605
>"Uhh yeah so I played through each of the factions once each for 50 hours each, totalling 250 hours of game-time and it was great and everything, but I'm giving this a negative review cos like ya know I just don't feel there's replay value there, like ya know I could pick a different lord or like play differently but I just don't feel like there's enough replay value there so neg review senpai"
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This guys seem OP as fuck and they're not that much more expensive than fucking Line Infantry.
Maybe I should throw them all out and build nothing but Tosa Riflemen.
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>>145225870
roll even though i dont own atilla
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>>145270778
I saw one review saying he has completed every faction, and said it was shit. Yet he has 20 hours play time.

Even auto resolve on easy i doubt this is possible.
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>>145270832
>Tosa Riflemen

No, if you want to see pure OP try Choshu's Kihetai
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>>145270832
Theyre less men and light infantry, they get owned in meele.
I think the main-issue is that they dont get fire by rank/knee, with later technologies you want line infantry, since fuckitai will tear through you anyways, even more so with light infantry.
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>>145270832
cheesing FOTS is almost an art form and you haven't perfected it until you get 100+ accuracy Royal Marines.
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>>145271238
>only 100
You can get beyond that.
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>>145270764

NOW
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>>145271297
what the fuck do you mean 100+ means you fucking dumb shit

spoiler alert the plus means 100 plus
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>>145271238
>100+ accuracy Royal Marines
Nagaoka
Blacksmith province
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>>145271238
>>145271297

>99 accuracy Parrot guns
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>>145271238
>Royal marines

Just get french marines they have better accuracy
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>Archaeon and some other faggot attacks a city with full walls, a full garrisoned stack, and an extra stack nearby reinforcing
>autoresolve says I'll probably (but barely) win
>think this is probably gonna be my only good fight this campaign so I decide to play it
>the game doesn't give me even half of my troops
>as my army crumbles under two armies that are nothing but Chosen, Chaos Knights and Hellcannons, I see fresh full stacks of empire troops entering the border
>as soon as they enter they get chain routed out, never having taken any hits
This is such bullshit, it's like the game wants you to autoresolve

Autoresolve counted all the troops, but in battle I only actually got half of them.
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>>145270234
Varghulf are also good for sieges and charging into enemy units to wreck havoc. I usually try to have 1 in every stack
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>>145228315
Old post but something kind of similar happened to me.

I was playing as the VC and I fought a huge battle at Schwartzhafen that left about 2500 casualties. I didn't realize that the lord had lived and he scurried off, so I went to attack Templehof and finish them off.

While I was taking Templehof, the Schwartzhafen lord returned to the battlefield and used Raise Dead giving him something like 4 grave guards, 3 Black Knights, a Varghulf and 1-2 Crypt Horrors on turn 10-11.
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First empire campaign, what do?

I've heard confederation is really good but it kinda got me fucked in my dwarf campaign so I don't know.
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>>145271786

Next time you confederate check the icons on top and check your diplomacy scores
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I love Shogun 2, found Medieval 2 to be a little too clunky, and couldn't get into Rome 2 but I'm loving Warhammer a lot. Should I download Atilla and give it a try?

How much is Atilla like Warhammer?
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What mods are people running?

Going with radious, radious units and 10% friendly territory movement.
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>>145271910
No leadership changes from difficulty
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>>145271154
They have better melee stats than Line Infantry, more than double the reload, higher accuracy, shitloads of ammunition and they're fucking hidden whilst firing.
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>>145271910
>radious
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>>145271786
Step 1: Take all of Reikland ASAP
Step 2: Take Marienburg for dank currency
Step 3: Expand east, be in as few wars at a time as possible, build defenses AKA walls basically everywhere. Confederate when you are in a good position to do so, as in, when the public order penalty isn't going to cause rebellions, and the diplomatic penalty isn't going to cause 3 of your neighbours to declare war on you
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>>145271369
Why Parrot if there's Armstrong? And I always hated how artillery slowed your armys down considerably in terms of campaign map movement range.
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>>145271896

Attila is the opposite of Warhammer despite the fact that they share many mechanics

In attila you'll be spending most of your time on the campaign and when you fight it will be probably a siege

In Warhammer it's the opposite, you spend most of the time in battle doing field battles
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>>145271896
The battles play out kind of similarly, the main thing is that you have a family tree/faction politics, squalor and food to manage in the campaign map. The huns and Atilla act in a similar way to chaos warriors in that they tend to just raze and murder everything. Oh, and I hope you enjoy public order decreasing farms. It's pretty fun though.
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>>145271896
>>145272118

Also I forgot to mention in Attila there are few "small" starts, meaning factions you start with just one or two settlements

Some are downright absurd with WRE and ERE being a shitload of settlements to manage from turn 1, some like it, some don't
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>>145271896

Well for one thing, Attila is far better than Archeon with the whole "I'll burn the whole world down" aspect

Probably because people complained about the Huns being too difficult, so they had to tone it down with the Chaos hordes
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>>145272268
>nerfed Chaos
>instead buffed Surtha Ek and Felman Ingersson
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>>145271896
Warhammer's the best battle TW game, Attila's the best map tw game

Attila's a wonderful game but you really don't fight that much unless you're a few specific factions

It's really something like crusader kings meets total war, with inter-faction politics and settlement building being major factors

The settlement depth is great but the biggest downside is you have to constantly fucking remember exactly how much guaranteed food and sanitation production you have because the game won't tell you the projected outcome for new buildings.

Aside from the needless adding up you have to do the management is brilliant though
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>>145272118
>>145272157
>>145272238
>>145272268
>>145272404
Thanks for the detailed responses everyone.

I think I'll pass on Attila, at least for the time being. The battles are what makes me love Total War so Attila might not be for me.
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nth for grace
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>>145271786
>Remove Secessionists
>Conquer Marienburg
>Expand either into Brettonia lands south or Nuln
>Keep dwarfs happy
By that time, Chaos should have popped up and everybody will be BFFs with you anyway, and you can confederate with nearly no penalty
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What do people think about Radious' mod this early in the game?
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>>145272752

>BLACK ARRER ORCS
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>>145272571
Bretonnia is useless as an ally and territory, they're so far behind the Chaos invasion and have zero credible threats other than themselves. Since they're so far back they won't ever move reinforcements at all

At least Wissenburg will put you in striking distance to eliminate the Vampire Cunts and easy trade routes for Border Princes and Dwarfs
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>haven´t been able to play in a while because work
>schedule goes back to normal, start playing and pay a visit to twg
>it´s all tg shit
and thus does this thread become shit
tg shit should stay there
i played Total War because i like a more or less kinda realistic grand strategy game that let me fight the battles, not to inmerse myself in High Fantasy setting number 9878567675
If i wanted that i would just play the Third Age mod.
With this i at least will finally stop coming to vg, so that`s a plus i guess.

I believe Warhammer is what will permanently kill the Total War series and make it into ´´Urr durr muh nerdy stuff´´
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>>145271896
>>145271896

>Attila

LONG TURN TIMES

but what the previous anon said about spending more time on the campaign map rather than doing battles
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145272872
Not even worth a (you), go kill yourself.
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>>145271896
90% of every faction's roster looks like shit. Enjoy your hordes of basic units that wear differently colored shirts and sometimes a hat.

Managing your kingdom is an enormous chore: you have to balance food with sanitation with public order with trying to get good units with trying to make some fucking money. And if you lose one town it's more than likely your entire game will go to shit unless you take it back.

If the Huns don't fuck up your end game, the fact that every province becomes an infertile pile of dust will ensure fun becomes a precious and rare achievement during a select few moments of your campaign.
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when i see TW thread
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>>145272865
Isn't that the point of going into Frogland? It's so that you have a cozy little economic powerhouse chugging away behind the Grey Mountains, blocked off by Couronne, Marienburg and Reikland, If you expand early into Wissenland, Stirland or Averland you'll have to go after the undead earlierm instead of letting Stirland do its thing and wreck West Sylvania.
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>>145272872

anon do you even know total wars fanbase before now?, don't be In denial just by liking grand strategy we are ALL wizards somewhat. and total warhammer is the largest tw release yet.

also nice blog
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>>145270590
>>145270439

Eh, seems they can take on most cheap frontline troops but overall they take forever to kill anything. The terror factor is nice but desu I prefered to take in bat units as they seem to be more versatile.
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>>145272537
Best Grace
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>>145272752
Goblin demigryph giants (mounted missile)
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>>145272479
He don't look so green to me
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>>145272752
Heavy dwarven cataphract archers (artillery)
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>>145272752
Noble Goblin no-dachi boar boyz (Missile infantry)
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>>145271910
>radious
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ORK UNIT LADS?

Spider or Giants?
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>>145273074
If you expand into Bretonnia and actually conquer them the Skaeling will pay you a visit in higher difficulties instead of just sticking to the north of Marienburg or Nordland

Removing the Vampire Cunts early will make your life easier in the entire campaign since if you ignore them they will capture parts of Ostermark, Averland, Tabacleland and Stirland

They will also have more shitty units instead of half Grave Guard armies and a bunch of Varghulfs and similar meme monsters but beyond that its more of the Vampiric corruption not hindering your armies because Kislev always gets buttfucked in every difficulty and you will need proxies
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>>145273032
>i'm shit at total war: the post
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>>145272752
Armored Mounted Grail Slayer Knight Black Orc Giant Troll Archer Spider Rider Demigryph Sorcerers (Throwing Axes)
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>Chaos warriors long victory conditions a few years from now
>eliminate the Empire, Kislev, High Elves, Wood Elves, Dark Elves, Dwarfs, Greenskins, Ogre Kingdoms, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Skaven, Bretonnia, Estalia, Tilea, Vampire Counts and Border Princes
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>>145273083
yeah that´s nice and all, but i wanted both things separated to be able to enjoy both, now they are mixed in one ugly dirty messy pile
When i want to talk about Warhammer in 4chan i go to tg, when i want to talk about a Total War game i came here, no i come here and have tg shoved want it or not, almost all posts are the regular shitposting we all know and love and Warhammer shit, barely anything about actual TW games.
Just make it Warhammer general of ir there is already one go join it
Hopefully the ´´muh we are so nerdy XDD warhammer orcs orcs im a dwarf lolololol´´ fad will die soon. For that i will check every now and then hoping.
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>>145272752
mounted onigiri roman peasants (trollhammer torpedoes)
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>>145273585

Would be nice if the DLCs are actually worth it and we get actual unique factions plus increase the map size.

The game right now feels so small especially if you play as Empire since confederation is so easy to do once everyone is your bff.
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hey lads as a bit of an update, I made a tiny bit of progress on the heros overwriting, albeit in an odd direction.
The unit Porthole is now correctly showing my custom units for vamp lords+the others.+ I'm pretty sure Im ALMOST at the fix point But im stuck, posting here incase somone knows.

I figured out whatever I have to change as well its somewhere in agent_uniforms_table under uniform name. unfortunately what I can't figure out is what uniform name would be assigned to Mousillon
however kislev for example uses the following line to assign some of its special lords to be Kislev only appearance: eg toddbringer
wh_main_uniform_ksl_captain
compare that to the standard empire captain entry.
wh_main_uniform_emp_captain_campaign_01


If I can figure out how to convert
wh_main_uniform_vmp_lord_campaign_01
to a Mousillon only variant then heros in my mod are fixed.
if anyone has any ideas of what the Mousillon reference is I'm all for them. pic related is the offending entry.
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This seems reasonable and not out of nowhere at all. Also kinda funny how the AI apparently is all about those alliances as long as it means it can fuck you over.
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Been playing Ottoman Empire in Empire. Really gets the blood flowing.
>fuck venice
>fuck austria
>fuck georgia
>fuck persia
>fuck dagestan

Every one of these niggers declared war on me before turn 20. In addition to already being at war with russia at the start, and fuckin morocco forcing me to abandon barbary states lest i get it up the rear. And of course Poland decides to join in on russias war on crimea. Really dont get this kind of cluster fuck strategy in any other total war game.
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>>145274002
aww look guys, its his first realm divide.
they grow up so fast...
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>>145273698
I'm not worried about getting unique factions since the implementation of each of the current factions has been done pretty well aside from some balance issues, and the full map has already been seen. They will probably be adding stuff to the old world as they go along, too.
My only question is how much it will all cost, because I actually want to play as most of the unreleased factions.
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>>145274136
if you want more pain like that you can try WRE on Attila.
but in any case, you deserve it for playing as ottoman empire you heathen
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>>145273902
Remove name.
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>>145271369
>that image
YTMND
T
M
N
D
I just want it to be 2006 again ;___;
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>>145274195
I don't think that's a realm divide, he has 5 provinces

Unless it triggers anyway late game regardless, I wouldn't know I've never had so few provinces late game
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>karak norn invites greenskins to fight me
>two turns later karak norn pays me for a peace treaty

Karak norn have problems.
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>>145273669
Shut the fuck up you autist
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It's so fucking annoying to fight against both chaos and vampires at the same time. not because they get the epic strategy, but because they fucking hit and run you on different sides of the map and you need all the anti chaos corruption upgrades to stop it spreading.
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>>145274693
>chaos corruption

Am I the only one who hasn't had an issue with chaos corruption? I've completed every campaign and not once did it bother me. I never even thought about it.
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does raiding stance heal?
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>>145274617
In ten years you'll just want it to be 2016 again
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>>145274805
>Am I the only one who hasn't had an issue with chaos corruption?
I didn't have any problems as well, just drop a building that lowers it, its not like you are starved for building slots in tww
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>>145274641
Karak Norn starts growing some weird kind of mushroom at a random turn, slowly starting to turn into chaos worshiping goblins
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>>145272752

Casual shit that removes all challenge by giving the player almost unlimited money.
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>>145274805
It was pain in the ass when one of my cities was getting sieged by 4 chaos stacks and corruption went over 50%
Right now I'm playing Greenskins and corruption is basically a non-issue
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>>145274203

Probably $15 for new factions and $7.99 for new "unique" units in that faction.

$3.99 for bonus lords with unique mounts

$9.99 for blood mod
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>>145275270
>$3.99 for bonus lords with unique mounts
>$9.99 for blood mod
...where are you from? Australia?
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>migrate from dorf fortress
>play dorf
>first total war game
>grab two gold mountains life is good
>greenskins fucking agent smith everyone
>i'll take care of it
>50 turns later take every town SE quadrant
>7 grudges for the last two stacks o top knots and greenskins?
>incrdbily hihg speed orkie workies sacks me 3 times
>"-10 provincial instability"
>mottlibe or morglobe or some bullshit feels bad moon
>accidentally a whole migration
>team edward fucking up my shit up north and I don't even realize it
>-12 public order everywhere

welp

who should I play as next

and is shogun 2 any good?
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>>145275449
play as empire

arr rook same :^)
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>>145275449
>who should I play as next
orcs or the empire

>and is shogun 2 any good?
I didnt like it at all, other than FOTS, but a lot of people like it
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>>145275449
All TW games are good except Warrior
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>>145274641
So they basically spent some dosh to see you and Orcs duke it out for their amusement
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>>145274884
Why do you torment me so?
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>>145275449
Shogun 2 is quite good, only issue is the lack of variety and shitty-but-not-warhammer-tier sieges
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>>145275449
What the fuck are you even saying.

That greentext was like 50% butchered meme words.
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>>145275449
>-12 public order
Literally nothing, that's merely your dorfs being unhappy due to being in the sun. You won't get to full tantrum spiral until -100.
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>>145275449
-12 public order
Yes and? They only start getting mildly annoying at -100
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Any tips for dorfs on VH?
I already did chaos (laughably easy but I literally fought no manual battles) and VCs where I just rushed.

Are dwarfs more about turtling and do I go north or south? I've heard both as advice.
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Why can't we have the graphics, nifty mechanics and UI of newer titles with the attention to detail of older ones?

>soldiers changing weapons based on situation
>cavalry being able to dismount to fight in sieges or kill annoying spearmen
>dudes actually hitting eachother with nice kill animations between them
>multi-layered castle wall sieges
>weapons and armor upgrades and experience levels show as graphical changes on the unit during the battle
>general's speeches based on their traits, what factions are fighting, army compositions, etc.
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>>145275734
I'll give you some fucking meme words
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>>145275449
Just accept they will be mad and use one spare army to beat every rebel so boys will have something to do between wars.
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>>145276241
I like to go south and take out the Greenskins ASAP, and then support the brothers at Karak Azul. Going north, Zhufbar will tend to prevent you from securing Rib Peak as a set province even if you do grab Mount Gunbad, while the 2 turn march from Gunbad to Squighorn generally gives you enough time to raise defences. The south, on the other hand, tends to be a massive clusterfuck, and both Azul and Barak Varr will need your support to pull through.

Economically, you can get gold at both Gunbad and Death Pass, and while Gunbad does have the Brightstone Mine in its favour, you should be able to confederate Zhufbar fairly early and avoid the hassle of managing Rib Peak altogether. Zhufbar also tends to drag you into wars with the VC or Karak Kadrin, so focussing your attentions north is never really a particularly good idea until you wipe out the Greenskins.
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>>145276241
go secure the north but leave some guys to cover your behind to avoid getting assravaged by Grimgor
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>>145276340
>soldiers changing weapons based on situation
They can theoretically do that, they just don't. I think there was a mod that fixed it.

>cavalry being able to dismount to fight in sieges or kill annoying spearmen
"streamlining" because apparently having unique factions is an excuse to remove buttons that were always there

>dudes actually hitting eachother with nice kill animations between them
I'm actually glad this is gone, having huge battles just be a row of 1v1 duels is retarded. That way surrounding unnits actually does something too.
I would have liked locked animation for lord duels though.

>weapons and armor upgrades and experience levels show as graphical changes on the unit during the battle
I kinda don't remember that being a thing. Medieval 2 had that with armor, right? Anyway, that's not how Warhammer works.

>general's speeches based on their traits, what factions are fighting, army compositions, etc.
That would require effort anon and it's more profitable to produce more DLC instead.
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>>145276865
>That way surrounding unnits actually does something too.

>this fucking meme
for fucks sake anon, animations have no effect on under-the-hood calculation of damage
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>>145275394

East coast. Just being realistic.

Look at the price of the cultures pack and individual factions from the previous games.

Steam Sales will tone it down though so I'm not worried.
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>>145276865
>weapons and armor upgrades and experience levels show as graphical changes on the unit during the battle
>not how Warhammer works
I dunno, I'd think it'd be pretty in keeping with the tabletop if Karl Franz's battlefield model started with a basic sword and only displayed the Runefang or Ghal Maraz after finishing the quest battle.

If you mean that's just not how W:TW works, then you're factually correct, but missing the point.
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>>145275702
>>145274884

Soon we will be old and have no desire to play video games or won't have the motor skills to do so.

>unless you praise Slaanesh for more limbs and eternal twisted youth
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>>145276865
They could have easily done all that, but it would require a bit of effort and/or care about the game.
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>>145277021
Most units can hit more than one model per attack. Which means it actually does matter.

>>145277063
I agree that that in particular is retarded and really immersion breaking, I meant regular units, those don't upgrade like that in the tabletop.

>>145277360
Producing more DLC is just more profitable overall. Games are basically becoming DLC vessels because simply producing a good game is not profitable enough.
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Alright boys, I'm downloading Fall of the Samurai right now. I love Shogun 2 but never played FOTS. What am I in for?
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Napoleon 2 Total War when?
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>>145277539
Medieval III: Total War when?
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>>145277496
>Most units can hit more than one model per attack. Which means it actually does matter.
I was talking about previous titles, someone pushed the 1v1 meme far enough for people to actually believe its true
>>
>can't decide which tw game to play
>end up playing none
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>>145277539
30 Year War when
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Nobody here has ever played Rise of the Samurai, right?

Cause I can't figure out why the agent that is able to buy out provinces keeps getting the 'Declare War' popup.

It is only a one settlement nation I'm trying to buy so according to the game this should not happen.
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>>145277583
Would you really want that anon? Look at the recent games and ask yourself that.

>>145277609
Kill animations were definitely a thing though (and are still, for example when a giant grabs a single soldier and throws him, which is basically a wasted attack since his nomal ones hit 10 soldiers at a time).
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>>145277176
cheer up, there is a good chance we'll achieve biological immortality within our lifetime.
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>>145277539
>>145277583
>>145277648

next year
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>>145277806
>Look at the recent games and ask yourself that

It's enough to look at M2 to realize an upgrade is needed
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>>145277648
>>145277583
>>145277539
>>
Would you guys play a general mode where you are part of a kingdom and get quests by your king while commanding one of his armies?
It would allow people who like to play battles a campaign without all the gay city management but still with some sense of progression outside of battle mode.
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>>145277942
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>>145278021
just fucking play mountain blade
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>>145278154
this desu
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>>145278021
>Would you guys play butterlord
>>
Does the witch hut corruption spread from the entire province or just the region where it's built on?
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>start new empire campaign
>let's bump it up to very hard this time for a bit more of a challenge
>take reikland no problems, ambush marienburg's smaller army, then take marienburg while their 20 stack is out fighting orcs
>defeat them when they return to marienburg because their army is like 40% pistoliers
>suddenly realize that Karak Norn is invading from the south with a full stacks, Ostland is invading at Altdorf with 1.5 stacks, and a stack of orcs is heading into Eilhart from the north as well
>also at war with Karak Ziflin who has a full stack sitting there
You start off the game only at war with a couple of orc hordes and the Secessionists, right? I definitely saw Marienburg declare war on me, but I'm pretty sure I didn't just accidentally miss three war declarations. It's also only turn 16. Looks like I'm starting again because this suddenly changed from 'doing quite well' to 'literally impossible'. Maybe I should turtle in Reikland for a bit or something.
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>>145277806
Attila and Shogun 2 were fucking fine m8, I dunno wtf you're talking about. Warhammer was a bit too streamlined for my liking.

The original MTW was great as well, probably my favorite, but RTW and M2 just bog down in the late game. M2 is probably the worst main series Total War game to be honest.

>>145278154
>>145278226
release never. It's in development hell. Deal with it
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>>145278074
what does this picture meme
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>>145278021
>without all the gay city management
If the simplified city management in TWW is too hard for you then stop playing TW games
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>>145278274
Haven't played Attila yet, Rome 2 launch just made me too fucking angry and I don't like medieval Japan as a setting.

>M2 is probably the worst main series Total War game to be honest.
But M2 and Rome are my favorites. You wanna fight m8? Come at me.
Also mods.
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>>145278274
>tfw bonnerlord never
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>>145278464
You are free to like whatever TW you wish, but I hope you understand how stupid you sound if you come out and tell the others to look at recent games as a negative example when you haven't even played them or you don't like them because of the setting.
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>>145278492
Didn't they say they had to show something at E3 this year? Or at least around that time.
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As VC, should I just get 10 grave guards with shield and call it a day, or get 6 to form my frontline and 4 with greatswords to stick in the flanks?
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>>145277539
>>145277583

Want an East Asia total war with China, Mongolia and Central Asia.

>Lu Bu
>Genghis Khan
>Timurlane
>Qin Shi Huang
>Mughal Emperors

Or Medieval III with a deeper emphasis on Turkey e.g. Ottomans

>>145278271

Why are you getting attacked by Dwarves? Make friends with them damn it. They're damn good at being buffer zones.
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>>145278839
6 and 4
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>>145278669
I should probably elaborate more on what I've meant. I thought Rome and Medieval 2 and even Empire were great because of the scope. Lots of provinces, factions, buildings and units (sure, a lot were just recolors but the games felt BIG). Now looking at Warhammer it's such a small game comparatively and they've said they don't want to introduce more complexity in the future. Now that might only be for Warhammer but it kinda makes me scared for future games.
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>>145278860
>Why are you getting attacked by Dwarves?
I have literally no idea, the game just started, after taking Reikland and then Marienburg I suddenly realized they'd sent a 20 stack up into Reikland. Like I said, I didn't even realize these factions had declared war on me. I was only 16 turns in, not really much time to have made friends yet.
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>>145278284
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>>145273902
if anyone else who buggers with the db tables can read that it'd be neat
>>145274435
anon as If I don't when I'm posting ANYTHING unrelated to the mod. its easier for me to find shit in the 800post threads I miss by ctrl fing Mousillon and being able to see if anyone was either able to figure something out, or came up with a good idea.
I'm not in it for the fame and I'm not trying to become your new gook I'm in it because if you ctrl f anon you die. simple as that.
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>>145279074

Gift those greedy stumps and get a non-agression when starting ASAP.

They'll turn into your BFFs so fast you'll get military alliances up the ass. Then Orks and Chaos won't even be an issue.
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>>145278979

sorry dude, but:
this is only a 1/3 of the full game!
and it's awesome!
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>>145279235
1/3rd of a game, for the price of a full game does not bode well for the future
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>>145277648
This

We seriously need Renaissance Total War (1450-1699, 250 years, 250/500 turns?), that focuses on Europe and somehow integrates exploration and colonization without the fucking mess ETW had. I dunno how to do that, maybe make all non-Europe just have Paradox-style management and map without 3D or manual battles? (thinking Victoria 2 with the trade goods and shit)

Lots of factions would have unique architecture and armies (eg Russia and Ottoman), lots of stuff going on in the east with Poland, Sweden, Russia, Turkey and of course the 30 years war in the west, Italian mercs and city states, HRE, just a great period for a TW game

I would be happy with some sort of China Total War as well.

In any case, they moved to 64-bit with Warhammer so the next historical game already has a great technical foundation.
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>>145279074
It's probably that delightful little malus called "Great Power: -10"
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I hope CA eventually give the tools to import custom models. I want to make a more floppy hats mod even though I've never modded before and I'd no doubt fuck it up entirely
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>>145279216
Don't give him attention dude
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>>145279332
Floppy hats for the Floppy Hats God
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>>145273902
>>145279216
The officical tool allows you to view models so you can check through them in that. I don't actually know how but I know you can do it with that.
Maybe that helps.
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>>145279226
>>145279330
I guess I'll suck some fucking stunty dick at the start then, and probably wipe out those orcs so they don't show up and start pillaging at a bad moment
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>>145279319

yeah, I know - Games Workshop working it's jew-y magic fingers again ...

still 200-ish smackaroonies buys me the whole game instead of a single Bloodthirster of Khorne.

So ... Blood for the Blood god!
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>>145277539

>tfw no Medieval TW with accurate feudal systems and politics
>tfw no Napoleon/Empire TW with accurate representations of the battles and individual units/regiments
>tfw no TW to date lets you name, paint, design your own units and their weapons/purposes
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>>145279621
>so used to the giant GW dick penetrating his arse that he doesn't even notice when he's getting fisted by Sega anymore

Poor tabletop players.
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>>145278021

I'd love a TW that had an accurate feudal levy system. Where you could play as either a king or baron etc and depending on your relationship with vassals and how good your economy was that determined how many troops you got. Obviously in battle you controlled all of them but on the campaign map they all just followed you around and provided different types/quality of troops. Some would field heavy cav, heavy inf etc. You could set them different objectives like simply follow the king or send them after specific enemy provinces.
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>>145239953
that resolution holy shit. it's like a glimpse into what life would be like if i wasn't a poorfag
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13 terrorgeists and 6 varghulfs, so fun. Fighting late game vampires is shit.
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>>145279621
>>145279319

they're just pulling the same shit Blizzard did with Starcraft 2. Release the base game and then charge full price for each of two expansions.

Not that it makes it any better.
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>>145277528
PLEASE TELL ME
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>>145277528
best total war game to date. Fierce gunplay, devastating artillery and gallant charges set in a stylistic and immersive backdrop.
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>>145279832

Shogun 1
Medieval 1
Rome 1
Medieval 2
...
Shogun 2
FotS
...

SEGA can fist me anytime! :D
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>>145239953

>that resolution
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>>145277528

Best guns and artillery in the series
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>>145280135
Those "expansions" had more than enough content t justify the price, as will most probably the TW ones. And as usual, I have to point out that having 5 unique factions (with a sixth already available outside of campaign for now) is not worse than having 8 that are much more similar. Rome 1 had 3 factions taken up as different colors of rome.
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>>145222759

Is there a tierlist or guide for the lord/hero skills?

For example: Magic seems to be super weak.
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>>145280135

Yeah, I know.
So?
I'm getting a great game in the bargain.
The only question remains which Chaos God do I sell my soul to in order to get it.

inb4 "Witch Hunters!"
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>>145279319

That depends entire on what you class as a "full game"

There's far more work and money put into this game than practically any Total War before it for the simple reason that they can't populate the roster of every single faction by reskinning the units of the first faction they create.

So if we count what a fair price should be based on how much was put into the product then the standard full video game price seems perfectly fitting,

I've also not seen a single person who claims to have gotten bored who has less than 75 hours in the game, and while that may be a bit low for a Total War game it is still like 3-4 times what the standard video game offers in terms of hours played these days.

I do wish that the game had more content (Why wouldn't I?) but I don't see any metric that would indicate that we have been fleeced.
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>>145280284

>what you think playing Takeda is like.gif
>mfw reality
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>>145280472
That't not exactly what I mean, for Warhammer it's fine.
I just think that now that they've done it for Warhammer they could get that idea for future TW titles as well where the factions are much less unique but they still split it up the same way they did because it worked in Warhammer.

That is my concern.
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>>145280472

Precisely my point:
100 hours of fun (minimum) for 60$
That's about 1.5 hrs per 1$
A movie lasts about 1.5 hrs and costs ... how much was that again?
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>>145280605
yeah that would be extremely shitty and knowing SEGA that's exactly what they'll do too
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>>145280605
If that would tie in with an expansion of the base map to include more and more regions and different cultures having actually different mechanics, why not? Modular doesn't necessarily mean worse.
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>>145280636
Depends on the day you actually go and see it, but here where I am a movie in the weekend can get to more than 10 euros
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>>145279581
Other factions are paying them to join. I've had the fucking savage orc tribe you start at war with get Karak Ziflin to fight me.

Check the event feed for united against us, for some reason CA didn't think it should be a pop up event.

On the other hand, asking to join a war is a great way to avoid fighting someone's allies
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>>145280636
Yeah, people can pee their pants about Warhammer not being "a full game" but I have about 120 hours in it so far.

For 62 dollars that's pretty radical so I don't regret buying the game even a little bit.
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>>145280636
$5 on Friday and weekends
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>>145280738
Because they're probing how much you'll pay for how much content. They of course want the most profit for the least effort and for the complete experience (Base game, 3 expansions, numerous DLCs) you have to pay much, MUCH more than you had to pay some years ago for a full game.
And if customers keep cooperating this price is going to keep rising.
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>>145279508
that is actually immensely helpfull, as I was changing colours via editing the #code in one table by 10, booting the game up, booting a skirmish. taking screenshot.
repeat(it was awfull)
thanks anon

>>145279343
my headcannon for that anon is he is radious

>>145279501
>>145279332
dunno if either of you are the same guy from earlier but I made an original content donut steal bla bla mod making zombies have floppy hats. its not on the workshop. if you really desire hats there is a start
>>No.145235343
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>>145280936
Oh, well that would explain that. Yeah, it's not like a faction that is as powerful as me essentially declaring war on me would be the sort of thing I would like to hear about, thanks CA.
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>celts vs celts
>we ambush each other so hard we're standing next to each other and not realising
best mechanic in a total war ever

I fucking love this
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So /twg/ what are Lusitani strength and weaknesses?
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>>145274002

It is reasonable you imperial shit.
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>>145281187
Anyone have the picture of the Anon deploying behind the celts trying to deploy behind him?
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>>145281087
woops
just go to filedropper dot com slash showdownload dot php slash zombiehats
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>faction unlocker doesn't let you play kislev
but that was the only reason I wanted to use it
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>>145281187
Made me lol for real
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>>145280636
>comparing games to movies
>comparing one form or entertainment to another

I have over 500 hours in Dwarf Fortress and that shit is a free ASCII game yo. I haven't watched a movie in a theater since 300 came out. I also paid monthly for WoW and would claim that it was worth it.

Also, I went to a $5 punk show with local bands I never heard of where I had the time of my life (drunken moshing) and got dragged by some bitch to a $110 Lady Gaga concert (paid for her ticket as well) where I wanted to leave very badly the entire time but didn't because there was a chance I could get laid I didn't

So, people will buy what they like. Every 12 year old knows how to pirate anyways. I'd pay $200 for the complete Total Warhammer trilogy, not more. I'd pay $50 for Minecraft if that were the price tbqh, and $50 for the complete Starcraft trilogy. I wouldn't play CoD or Battlefield or Doom if I was given or gifted it for free.

Basically when it comes to art or media the "stop liking what I don't like" or "but you can get X games for $Y instead!" arguments don't really hold.

>>145280605
>>145281040
these are legitimate concerns though.
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>>145281187
>Start campaign as Caledonians.
>Enter war with Picts first so i can unite the north before turning to face the romans.
>First battle.
>Their entire army is in the middle of the map, right beside my own deployment zone.
>Deploy myself in such a way so as to have melee units on top of their archers, just enough to trap their own melee into combat, then my archers behind them so I can shoot into their backs.
>Battle finishes almost as it begins.

I don't think CA thought through about having several factions with all vanguard deployment right next to each other.
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>realm divide
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>>145281040
Who says when a game is "full"? Games had additional content back in the old days too, and prices have gone up way less than inflation could have justified. And now you get discounts every day of the week.
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>>145281807
>Caledonians
>Picts

Wtf are you talking about dude, the starting factions are VC Empire Greenskins Dwarfs and Chaos....
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>>145281807
>>145281187

Uh, guys, I think you've misunderstood something.

This is /twg/. Total WARHAMMER General.

>>>/his/ is that'a way
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I don't know what to get next... giant, dragon ogres or chaos knights???
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>>145281884
>tfw you're perfectly prepared for it
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>>145279216
Chances are you'll have to create your own instance, and refer to it in the variants_table

No idea tho, modding TWW is like running blindfolded in a forest
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>>145280490
>>145280284

>LOL

That fucking spearman against Takeda
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>>145281949
>>145281974
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>>145281974
Funny how the actual fantasy players have no problem with history games being discussed
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>>145281990
Knight imo, then giants.
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>>145282121
Don't get baited mate.
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>>145282121
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>>145279216
I might take a look later this evening while watching e3
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trying greenskins and the dwarfs are just rolling over me its pretty horrible
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Am I pleb for liking sieges? Total war sieges have always been shit bore fests especially in larger cities. It's still boring but much more engaging having defenders and attackers and all their reinforcements swarming one stretch of wall as well as flying units. Better if infantry actually went for gates though.
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>>145282295
boar boys
o
a
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b
o
y
s
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>When you manage to ally to Zhufbar and the Dwarves as Vampires.
>When they win against Greenskins.

I need a smug loli vampire pic for this.
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>I believe that game development acts in a vacuum and that any limitations in a game are due to developer laziness, greed or lack of ability rather than financial considerations or limitations imposed on by the publisher
>any missing features or lack of content is obviously a malicious act on their behalf to extract more money from us

I love this meme
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>>145282358
ill try
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>>145282459
>>145282459
>>145282459
NEW
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>>145282394

They're going to roll on you.
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>>145282318
I hate being the attacker in sieges. I would think I'd enjoy being the defender but it literally never ever happens.
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>>145282394
>>145282547

>Vampire counts
>Turtle
>Non-Agression pacts
>Everyone wants to be my friend including Emprah Karl and the Dawis

WTF???

Empire shoul'dve made a beeline for Sylvania by now.
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>>145281974
uh, autismus maximus, i think you've misunderstood something.
this is /twg/. total WAR general.

>>>/r9k/ is that way
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