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Vanheim Edition

Previous Pantokrator >>144867978

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/dHdZ1cch

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.


>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Start playing multiplayer games

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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1st for dead
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How do i join multiplay games
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>>145172461
6th months of SP unlocks the option to do MP
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>>145172461
>>Play by email guide:
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551
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rate my first attempt at thug shittery
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>>145172747
What the fuck
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>>145172747
That is indeed a shitty thug.
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>>145172840
>>145172793
what the fuck do you guys know he's besieging a fucking fort on his own and he FUCKING KILLED C'TIS UNITS WITH POISONED SPEARS
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>>145172747
>Duel wielding Length 4 weapons
Enjoy that -8 to combat stats.
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>>145172865
He is still a shitty thug
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>>145172747
Cool but he is a bit underequipped unless you specifically went for a cheap thug. Check this out, it shows how the pro's at desura can pimp out even a mere peasant to bane lord levels. But those thorn spears are a very nice touch if you are going against MA C'tis. Let them have a taste of their own medicine!
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>>145172747
>>145172865
You picked a shitty chassis and gave him shitty items. It's shit and would easily be beaten by PD, let alone a halfway-competently put-together army(the AI is not even halfway competent).
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>>145173357
That guy must have one heck of a barn.
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Hey new Ulm, are you here? How's it going? Are you winning yet?
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Does +pen apply to remote rituals?
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>>145175334
That's a good question. I'd like to know this as well.
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>>145175509
I cast leprosy on an MA Ulm of 750 with +3 pen and hit 250 units. It really feels like not.
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>>145175334
If it's something that MR can negate, then yes, it should. At the very least, it counts for mind hunts.
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>>145175334
Of course it does. Mind Hunt would be pretty bad without it.

>>145175654
Leprosy description states that only a half of troops in the province are hit by the spell. So, out of 375 troops affected, 125 (1/3) resisted. Everything seems fine.
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>>145175803
My bad, in-game description doesn't mention that. It's in the manual, though.
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ded
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any MA games recruiting?
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>>145180780
Yes.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=OnePunchChump
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>>145180780
There's also some meme-games:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ChaosHander
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ErmorOP
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>>145181417
>Story events on
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ErmorOP starting soon. HYYYYPE.
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Domg has a dive grass game in 30 minutes. Support your winning team!
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>>145183216
I lost my link, share?
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>>145183652
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ
Section "who runs all of this". Fucking spam filter doesn't let me post even a part of the link.
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>>145182128
Has the admin worked out the map issues yet?
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>>145183838
Were there map issues? The old map had no issues, Ermor was just made OP with the mod that gave it all the indie provinces in the world. Now it's just a scenario map.
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>>145183972
People suggested using a scenario map and when I asked in an earlier thread people said he was still working on getting a scenario map together.
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>>145184102
It is done, I'm just making some cosmetic changes before uploading. Also, #skybox command doesn't work, so no cool spooky battlefields for you. Thanks, Illfraud.
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>>145183216
I can't. Watching real divegrass. England vs Russia.
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>>145184179
Nice. It'll be my first multiplayer game so I hope I do alright.
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tfw I win or lose next turn
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>>145184332
You picked a hell of your game for your first multiplayer. Not sure that's the smartest choice you could've made, but I hope you'll have fun.
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>>145184309
First, Russia will get stomped. Second, we have a better goal horn.
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What's this ErmorOP thing? How are the game rules and mods? It seems like a cool idea.
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>>145184425
I think I have an okay understanding of the game and everyone starts off with a common enemy, so I should be able to make allies with someone when I need to.
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>>145184541
The basic idea is to just give Ermor a bunch of ridiculous advantages (in the first version Ermor started the game owning ALL indie provinces) so everyone has to team up in order to beat Ermor. The Ermor player won't be playing to win (because the game would be over in like 3 turns if he was), but he'll basically be roleplaying the evil overlord that everyone has to beat.

In reality though, this means that Ermor is basically kingmaker supreme and the winner of the game will be the player who gets fucked by him the least.
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>>145184793
Is this with summod?
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>>145184541
It's a RP(-ish) scenario game that simulates the fall of Ermor, and gives it a very advantageous position in order to enforce player cooperation. After Ermor is (hopefully) defeated, it will devolve into a normal(-ish) game.

Also, is Eldergate Ermor's capital or just another city? I'm having a brain fart.
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>>145184886
No.
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>>145184910
Lambert has been treating it like the capital so I guess it is.
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>>145184886
>using a balance mod
>in a game that aims to make a nation OP as fuck
pls

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ErmorOP

1 place left. Be brave, be an hero, don't be a UW nation unless you want a knife fight in a phone booth join!
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>>145184993
Tell me about Lambert. Is he a good DM? What was/is the game about?
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>>145184976
Shame. The summod gem sites would go well with such a game.

>>145185015
Not for the sake of balance, obviously. It changes how Ermor works.
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>>145185127
He's pretty good. It's set right at the fall of Ermor, but right now it's mostly about figuring out what a party of characters with the main unifying character gone are going to do with ourselves.
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Okay, I've got the password from llama and I'm taking over since our previous admin went MIA after losing a battle, apparently.

Extended the current turn for >>145086789
Will set Pan AI if he doesn't show up until Tuesday.

Let me know if you need an extension or longer hosting intervals.
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>>145184910
Eldregate is their canon capital as far as I know.

>>145185127
He's pretty cool, though at this point I have no clue where he plans on taking the plot.

The game started with the fall of Eldregate, with the party being made of slaves and servants of some Ermorian bigwig. We escaped the city unharmed and traveled to some smaller town nearby. At this point the plot seems to center around an asshole Centaur necromancer who has escaped from the party twice and even killed one of the players (but he was an elf so nobody cared).
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/domg/'s last group stage match is going to begin soon. Right now it's /ffg/-/rsg/, then it'll be /fgg/-/domg/. We're already through, so it's just a question of whether we 9-point the group or not.
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>>145185015
>tfw not enough consistent time to play Dominions these days
I would like to though, it seems like a really fun concept.
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>>145185360
>Hore Giving Sloppy Blowjob Punkt
That actually isn't on the first page for me
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>>145185369
Where do I see the current standings?
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>>145185612
I'm probably just getting bubbled as a sexual deviant.
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>>145185618
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_6

The stream link is on the wiki's front page.
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>>145185739
Which makes it all the more ironic that my Eldregate search is clean, given that fetlife is in my top two most visited sites
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>>145185369
>we're gud
How did this happen?
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>>145186332
Our whore fox learned to digital divegrass
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>Ermor OP
You cowards don't even play dom1.
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>>145186332
>Dominions is a game where you have to autistically script stuff so the retarded AI doesn't fuck it up
>Animated divegrass teams need to be autistically scripted so their AI doesn't behave utterly retardedly
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>>145186860
This. And simulating thousands of PES matches with Boksi.
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>>145186860
>>145186953
Most of this shit is just seat of my pants desu. I don't test much because my potato can barely handle running the game.
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>>145187709
That is why we put up all those virtual environments running PES16 up serverside, remember?
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>>145187709
script harder then you ever scripted before
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>>145187709
When do we play?
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>>145188793
Right now.
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>>145188793
NOW
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>>145185360
>>145185332
Do you have any text recordings, or do you just make voice calls? I'd love to read some dom-related dnd shit.
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>>145188971
Cruxador keeps logs on his blog, though he hasn't added the last two sessions yet: https://cruxador.wordpress.com/
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>>145189097
If someone's gonna read it I can do that now though.
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>manmarking
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>>145189287
I'm reading it. Maybe I'll manage to connect your game with ErmorOP somehow.
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>>145189287
I read them every week.
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we should do something with our offence, man
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>>145190174
Its the mememarking.
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>>145190174
Who's responsible for this travesty
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>>145185360
>>145185332
Glad you guys are liking it, direction and so such will appear over time as I work out what you guys enjoy the most
>>145188971
I can give you the full roll20 logs if you want, same with the discord.
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>Relying on "Ulm - Waiting for turn file" to move the ball forward
It's worse than I could have imagined
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>>145189539
>>145189739
Well, updated. I don't have a ton of time to do long thorough posts these days, but it's something.
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So I take it the game is pretty much over here? Agartha and R'yleh don't seem capable of fighting Ulm, and Pythium is about to be toppled apparently.

Ulm's actually bloodhunting now, and with R'yleh actively supporting them I don't see any way for them to be fought.
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vgl6 watcher here, what the flying fuck is your goalhorn from? how the hell did that patrician noise originate?
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>>145191095
As it's name implies, it's elephants trampling blood slaves, blood slaves make the scream when hit, elephants trumpet when they attack, tample means the elephants are attacking by moving over a bunch of enemy squares, atatcking each.
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>>145191095
https://soundcloud.com/boksi-1/elephants-trampling-blood-slaves-forever
ripped for your pleasure
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>>145191095
>>145191218
And blood slaves are literally virgins sacrificed to summon demons.
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>>145191218
danke friendo, this general is kind.
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>>145191095
It's the sweet sound of female virgin slaves being trampled by elephants.
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>>145191218
>>145191303
>>145191389
but what do sneks have to do with it?
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>>145191508
Its the team goal horn.
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>>145191389
>female
They're actually not, though they look it.
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>>145185369
Where do I watch it?
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>>145191508
erf snek is a possible god you can select. pretty good at early expansion
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>>145191584
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_6
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>>145191608
>using that erf snek build

It's shit
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>>145192101
its the first thing I googled, shitlord

Also, we won all group games, congrats.
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W I N N E R
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>>145192318
As expected of Erf Snek-san
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Hooray, nine points!

>>145191608
>>145192101
Why the fuck would you put additional paths on an erf snek? The entire point of erf snek is how efficient he is as a cheap expander without becoming totally obsolete later because earth is a good path even on its own.
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GOD BLESS ERF SNEK, Manager thank you for sending in Bane
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>>145192571
Because
Cloud
Trapeze
Wrathful
Skies
Rain
Of
Stones
Erf
Snek
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>>145190626
>I have not yet done this.

My shopping list is easy, because it's empty. The thing I want the most is a certain magic weapon which right now is outside my budget.
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>>145192708
But that's an S snek, not an A snek
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>>145193238
LEARN
TO
READ
FGT
>>145192318
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>>145192708
Might as well add fire for phoenix pyre and firestorm.
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>>145194373
Might as well take lich then.
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>>145194504
That's for pussies who cant handle their god dying.
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>>145194658
>pussies who cant handle their god dying.
Like Ur?
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>>145191254
I've always felt our goalhorn is missing 500 mindlbasts.
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>>145194820
Also, the sound of 100 of the Ys sacreds attacking with the firebreath
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>>145194820
>>145195162
don't forget 10000 hydras and 500000 horror marks
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Good to hear Boksi got gud.
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>>145195310
Horrormarks at least cant trigger at the same time. But it's a spooky sound.
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Hey Chaoshander admin, any chance of deleting my pretender? After having a chance to try out Xib's new units, they are somewhat underwhelming.
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First, here's the chat log, though it's a mess in pastebin. http://pastebin.com/vXn1ZNvk

Second, there's room for one more, and there's a 'friendlyish' spectator that they've ignored the real name of and called 'ghost' whom has heabutted a Lictor which totally could become a PC.
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>>145196645
hhhehehehehe
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>Virtual divegrass and D&D
Is nobody talking about the actual game here?
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>>145199049
Nope.
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>>145199049
Post you're battle reports
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>>145196645
Ghost only has one arm though.
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Hey giants, my fishes are going to (67), be forewarned.
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>>145200556
That's fine
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>>145201000
Well, it's good that you're fine and... and I'm fine... I agree with you, it's great to be fine
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It's time.
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>>145195801
K. Who you gonna play next?
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Are the divegrass streams recorded and saved anywhere? My boss came in just before our game started so I had to actually do some work for a while and missed it.

>>145199278
It's nothing all that special, but it was the difference between losing the game and not.
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GOD
FIGHT


Also domes do prevent teleports, or more have a chance to.
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>>145204169
Well now, aint that the million dollar question?
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>>145205104
what spells were cast?
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>>145205104
Where did you get so many storm demons?
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>>145208305
>has lord of plague wind
>where did you get so many storm demons
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>>145208305
>>145208430
I empowered two Warlocks to A2. Pazuzu actually hasn't summoned any himself.

>>145208158
A bunch of shit. Most relevant were probably his Army of Lead into my Shimmering Fields. Stygian Rains and Fog Warriors helped keep my guys alive as well, even through the RoS that killed off my Imps.
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>>145187709
I couldnt watch it, was it recorded anywhere?
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>>145208698
We gave up first point because "Ulm - Waiting for turn" couldn't move the ball up the field and we had only one player on offense. When we switched to a more aggressive formation, we scored two elephants-trampling-blood-slaves-forever and won.
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>>145205104
>>145208698
The VOD will be up on the streamer's page eventually. In today's case, it was streamed on the official channel so it'll be there, but previous matchdays are elsewhere.

Also there's Klaxa but I'm honestly unsure of what the situation with that is.
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>>145208698
Ulm failed to do anything because he was waiting for .2h to be submitted. Changing him out for bane nailed us two goals with bane pushing thing sup and erf snake nailing the goal. ALso Daigo Umihara was purple and choked hard
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>>145201487
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What, in hindsight, is the dumbest and/or most far-out thing you've done diplomacy-wise, /domg/?

I want to hear your stories.
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>>145211006
agreed to do a gangbang against a nation, On the turn of the attack both of the people I was working with Stalled so I was left to take the bruit of the attack for most of the war
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>>145211006
one time i trusted an elf
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>>145211006
I tried to make a nation that I could defeat into a vassal to defeat a third nation. They agreed so that I wouldn't finish them off, then promptly betrayed me.
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>>145211006
Declaed war on everyone on the same turn.

Would have worked too if not for the pesky skellyspam assassins, darn mages inability to cast useful script off script.
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>>145211814
I did that when I wanted to quit the game honorably. It didn't work because irminsul
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>>145211006
Whatever the hell it is I'm doing right now instead of just picking someone to war with and just going for it
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>>145211006
Hoo boy. It's a long list.
>Got tricked into fighting another nation on behalf of the terrifying mega-nation, got domkilled before I could retaliate.
>Betrayed a prospective ally because I'd rather fight in their dominion than in the other remaining player's.
>Invade LA R'Lyeh as LA Mictlan, which went as well as you might think.
>Side with a nation roughly twice my size to gang up on a prospective ally because they were more cordial to me and offered gifts.
>Sent 15 feebleminded troops onto an ally's cap, wanting to suicide them and free them off. They had much less PD than I thought, and I had to pay many astral pearls as restitution.

I honestly warn everyone I conduct diplomacy with that I make poor decisions, and I should not be considered trustworthy in the least.
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>>145213072
I did not receive that warning from you =(
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>Fucking hornets and wasps keep trying to fly in and assassinate me whilst I'm doing my dominions turns
>It's too fucking warm to sleep
>I sprayed a wasp earlier and now it's disappeared
fucking summer
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>>145214001
Start beekeeping, they may individually be much smaller than hornets and wasps but if you raise a few colonies to a decent size they will outnumber and exterminate the fuckers with extreme prejudice
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>>145214554
If I didn't have an innate fear of all buzzing flying insects that might have been an option, but I have barely even seen any bees this year
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>>145215521
Bees respect that the giant creatures that wander about are to be avoided, unless they attack the nest. It's like spiders, which mostly recognise us as "too big to pose a meaningful threat to" so avoid us whils killing flies and other stuff too dumb to not annoy us.
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>>145215816
le ebin "wasps are angry fuckers" meme :DDD

That's pretty bullshit. Don't fuck with them and they won't fuck with you. It's just that they have a somewhat broader definition of "fucking with them" than most animals people actually interact with.
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>>145213072
>Sent 15 feebleminded troops onto an ally's cap, wanting to suicide them and free them off.
>sending a motley crew of retards on a literal suicide mission only for them to succeed, at great cost to the man who sent them to die
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>>145216102
Bees have a fairly narrow definition of "fucking with them" which generally is anything that harms the hive why did I type nest last time? so as wasps are annoying due to that broad definition, genociding them with the more palatable bees is going for the full meme of "wasps attack everything" but merely "bees are more tollerant of humans".
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>>145211006
Gave money to jews, then got immediately invaded
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>>145219664
Giving them money just signals that you have lots of money. And what do the jews like?
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>>145219908
Uh... cannibalism
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>>145218674
heh
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>>145220871
Well yeah, and eating in general. But what else do they like?
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>>145219664
lmao, is this Bully elves? your story was kinda cute
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>>145219664
for the record, I did let you get the province back, I just invaded you the turn after
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Best nation coming through
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what's the least-terrible way to play EA R'lyeh?
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>>145225348
Mass androleths and you can become a crappier agartha
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>>145225348
Like a worse EA Agartha, with a bless for the sacred mindblasters and Androdai and hope that your opponents are going to let you communion into decent spells
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>>145225867
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>>145213608
Then if it's any consolation, you were one of the reasons for it.
>>145216248
Yeah, I know. They were my A-team. Unfortunately they were trapped behind neutral lines, and all they could do was patrol until mummified lizards slaughtered the world. They were lovely while they lasted though.
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>>145225348
Throw literally every amphibious troop you have onto a coastal province, buy an insane amount of PD, and pray to god you can put the fort up. Then, get some Androdai as communion slaves and mind vessels, and use the high-level Astral Alteration spells to make your slave armies actually good. Having a pretender able to forge Amulets of the fish is also mandatory.
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>>145211006
Oh boy, do I have one, and it just happened. I'm playing a game with sum1won and blitz co, but my expansion sucked so I was broke as shit, couldn't even afford to build a fort on my throne. Sum1won convinces me it's a good idea to sell him earth gems for some much needed cash. He even bargains the price down to much lower than my bid. The turn he sends the gold and I send the E gems, he attacks my throne, and then next turn, he casts Wizards Tower W I T H MY E A R TH G E M S ! !
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What are your favorite generated names?
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>>145228484
If I've learned anything from the steamchat blitz games it's that sum1 just wins.

Especially when he's 'testing a nation for summod.'
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>>145228549

ORPHANEATER

delicious children
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>>145211006
Well, I can't say I have ever made a dumb trade in my life. However, my most left-field trade was back when I first became The Trump back in Armemegeddon. I was in the middle of a 3v1 as Xibalba. After fending off Ur and removing a few of Fomoria's Kings with assassins, my only big annoyance was Pan. In order to stop their Revelers from destroying their own lands while I was dealing with the other two, I successfully made a deal with Ermor where I would Take down an Indi fort they could not break the walls of, in exchange for them taking and ceding to me 4 of Pan's Provinces including one of their forts. That in and of itself wasn't the outlandish part, as I have made and offered such deals before. The part that is so far-out is that Ermor didn't actually believe I would be able to make such a good deal when he started talking to me. The guy, a great guy if you get the chance to talk to him, he actually thought he was going to laugh me out of the negotiation room because I was Xibalba. Well, we were both laughing at the end of it, let me tell ya. Good times.
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>>145229286
hinnom.png
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>>145228484
How does he already have enough research for Wizard Tower while you're too poor to FORT YOUR THRONES?
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>>145225348
Spam armageddon and cancer globals until everyone goes AI, then beat the AI.
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>>145234932
ain't no bitchmade furry faggots in this game
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>>145228549
He seems fun to hang out with
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>>145234932
I will weather all the cancer. BoT, Armageddon, Utterdark, Astral Corruption, I have survived all thee.

I've actually probably played more turns with Astral Corruption up than with it not being up.
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>>145229286
I'm pretty sure I had a CHILDFEASTER at one point
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>>145237141
I had that on a dusk elder.
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Still need more people for ChaosHander
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>>145236394
If you have the Throne of Night (especially with half-decent sacreds/sacred mages), which always seems to fall near me, Utterdark is a fucking blessing.
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>>145243237
Not for your income.
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>>145243581
Sure, but everyone's getting fucked equally on that front, and you can afford to recruit less (sacred) troops and do better against them to take their shittier land.
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Demons and bats have full darkvision and bats can replace their gold economy entirely with blood.
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>>145244504
Blood nations don't play by standard rules and will want to cancer everyone else once they've gone full blood, everybody knows that.
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>>145244903
meant in response to >>145243237 &
>>145244272

Blood nations be like "Oh, you have nightvision on your sacreds? That's cute."
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>>145243237
>>145245019
By lategame most nations (especially blood) can just cast Darkness anyway.

You should just aim to break into death if you have darkvision sacreds, that way your income doesn't get screwed.
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>>145245625
Having a D4+ mage not need to cast a huge fatigue spell at the start of the fight is really nice, but you're right that it should be going up at the start of every fight anyways.

That said, the income hit still hurts them less than nations that don't have the option to turn their gold income into blood slave income like I'd mentioned. If there isn't a pop-kill nation in the game or someone else that similarly already doesn't care a whit about gold, it's good for the demon-fuckers to have utterdark up.
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>>145246517
Utterdark is definitely useful for blood nations on a strategic level.

I was mainly talking about the effect of utterdark on battles, which should be fairly minimal. It might be helpful for raiding, I guess.
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>>145248473
You're tremendously underestimating the value of 6 attack, defense and precision. This is an absolutely insane decrease in combat efficiency, and makes most units that do not have some darkvision completely fucking useless. Nearly any unit with darkvision will slaughter any unit that doesn't. Darkness is more useful to just simulate, well, darkness, though.
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>>145248473
>which should be fairly minimal
Look at that faggot and laugh.
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>>145250571
>>145251067
Did you miss the last two posts talking about how everyone with darkvision is going to be casting Darkness in fights long before Utterdark goes up?

Every battle will already have Darkness in it, so utterdark hardly matters.
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>>145251067
>>145250571
What he was saying wasn't that the darkness effect was minimal on battles, but that you cast darkness for all of your battles anyways - and probably long before you put up Utterdark. The comparison isn't between darkness and not-darkness for battles, but between a 400 fatigue D4 spell that costs 4 D gems and not casting that spell. Which is still a big deal.
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>>145244903
Blood Nations aren't fond of BoT or an Armageddon Engine. Both will remove Blood from the world sooner or later. Every 11 Armageddons kills 90% of the world, so 22 would kill 99%, which makes blood basically impossible even in capitals (which will have a pop in the hundreds at that point).
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>>145253539
yeah armageddon spam is the 'counter' to blood - and gold economies and human sized anything
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>>145253710
But not human-sized skellingtons, senpai.
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>>145253539
BoT or Armageddoning during an endgame push for a Blood Nation isn't terribly uncommon.
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>>145253539
>>145253710
Also, building off of this - a blood nation that can spam out vampire lords will be well off following armageddon spam, because in addition to whatever demons they've amassed, they can keep producing flying immortal 'chaff' in sufficient quantities to have an actual army at a point in the game where everyone that hasn't broken into blood will lack one.

>>145253835
Armageddon kills the crap out of skelingtons.
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>>145253870
But skellingtons will just keep coming. There's no stopping them. Also, can armageddon negate ethereal or not? Because if not, ghosts are pretty safe in 75% of cases.
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>>145185334

thanks man, I can probably take my turn tomorrow.
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>>145253870
Everything kills skellingtons in droves. The problem is that there's ALWAYS FUCKING MORE.
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>>145253970
>>145254264
For Ermor, sure. For someone like Lanka and Sceleria, you can kill some of their reanimators.

Well, Lanka less so assuming they're using their apes, since they can survive an Armageddon or two. You can definitely kill their indie assistants, though.
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Midgard do ur fucking turn
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Sorry R'lyeh but I need a way out of my Peninsula prison. You are the easiest way. You can keep your fort.
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At what point can a SC, given an incredible chasis (like Hinnom's final summons) and access to any item combination needed, plus as many wishes for power as needed, reach the point of 'literally unkillable'?
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>>145260435
Never ever.

A group of mages that are properly prepared for the SC will always have a good chance of killing it, assuming they have enough chaff to distract it.
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>>145260556
But what if it's in the range of 'regenerating more than a soul slay's worth of damage a turn'? There's always MR-focused spells like Enslave and whatnot, admittedly.
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>>145260725

There are spells that instantly eliminate an unit no mr save no damage - like hell banishment. Sure, your SC could survive in hell for infinite amount of time but he is off the map and useless.
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>>145260556
And what spells do you use to kill the SC?
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>>145260878

Soul slay, mind control, life for life, petrify, claws of kokythus/inferno version.
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>>145260847
It's not terribly hard to return from banishments assuming we're at this ridiculous stage of spending like, tens of thousands of gems on a single unit.
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>>145260976

So? You spent some time in hell and can be instantly sent back with another cast. Effectively the SC is dead for the duration.
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give me memes
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Tien'Chi, wanna talk? Because I do. I see the potential for fruitful negotiations right now. You'd have to be crazy not to get in on this.
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>randomly wake up in middle of the night
>can't stop thinking about how i messed up my turn
>have to check to make sure my nation is okay

Okay, back to bed.

Also, help me /domg/. I've never had this problem before.
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>>145263012
It's just a game, m8. Chill.
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>>145263224

I know. I told myself that repeatedly as I laid in my bed... thinking about how I was going to do the next turn. I have a problem. An addiction. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem, right?
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>>145263438
I did this too. Took a break. Got dragged back into it. You can never leave.
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>http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2981&st=45&#entry22148700
Individual cost changes:
Vanhere
WotFE
Shadow Vestal
Enkidu's Chosen
Ur-Guard
Boar Warrior
Carnute Warrior
Undisciplined bakemonos

Groups (if IIRC):
Pale ones
Ancient Ones
Enkidus
Horites
Vanaras
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>>145211006
Well, that's not any particular event but my #1 weakness, I suppose, is that what I personally think of as efficient communication (let's do x, or alternatively I do y) tends to be perceived as ultimatums and hostile intent, and when diplomacy doesn't go my way, I tend to get whiny, which makes my cause less sympathetic for third parties even if I legitimately think my suggestions are the most beneficial deal available for third parties.

On the other hand, while this is also my standard way of playing, my playstyle tends to be very aggressive and decisive. For example, if I'm losing a war on one front and I can't come up with a counter to what my opponent is doing yet, I wouldn't hesitate to open another front while trying to dodge fights against my original enemy and conquer territory faster on one side than I'm losing on another (and as such keep up some level of competitiveness while I wait for research to provide me with potential counters against the original enemy: even the hardest counter doesn't matter if you've been reduced to your capital by the time you can employ it, or your desperate attempts to push back the enemy army has destroyed your armies and mages). The way I see it, you HAVE to be at least "competitive" in overall size and strength compared to the current leaders of the game so even seemingly suicidal play is worth the risk because alternative is a guaranteed loss in the long term.
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>>145264463
Well, that helps with finding the changes. Actual numbers for the things he mentioned:

Groups:

Pale ones cost reduced by 1 (to 9)
Ancient ones cost reduced by 10 (to 40)
Enkidu cost reduced by 1 (to 16)
Horite cost reduced by 2 (to 23)
Vanara cost reduced by 1 (to 9)

Individual:

Vanhere cost increased by 10 (to 40)
WotFE cost increased by 9 (to 35)
Shadow Vestal cost increased by 10 (to 45)
Enkidu's Chosen cost decreased by 5 (to 30)
Ur-Guard cost decreased by 3 (to 19)
Boar Warrior cost decreased by 5 (to 25)
Carnute Warrior cost decreased by 1 (to 11/15 for barechests/nobles)
Undisciplined Bakemono cost decreased by 1 (to 7)
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>>145228484
>Not mentioning that EA R'lyeh thwarted his plans by killing his God and banishing two golems to fuck knows where.
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>http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2927&st=60&#entry22148702
Full version of Magic Enhanced. PBEM when?
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>>145266861
>No gold cost reduction for Machaka's troops
Welp, maybe when the next balance patch comes out in another 6 months
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>>145268463
Actually, Rhino Clan is now 1g more expensive than before.
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>>145268538
For what purpose?
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>>145268827
Machaka OP pls nerf.
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>>145268827
Well, didn't Anon say he planned to win with Machaka recently? Should have kept his trap shut.
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>>145268827
Illwinter buffed Agatha and nerfed Therodos, they have no damn idea what they're doing.
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>>145269275
Did they nerf Therodos again in this patch?
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>>145270252
No, that part is from last patch.
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deceased
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Is not ded that which can eternal lie
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Can you recommend a good start for an MA Rlyeh pretender? I have no idea what I'm doing. I guess nature would be good because they don't get that normally?
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>>145274986
You usually want an awake expander, since your expansion is pretty terrible without one, and you don't have any recruitable sacreds worth taking a bless for. A bless for some of the void creatures like a vastness would make them pretty annoying to get rid of, but the good ones are rare enough that it's not really that worth it. Also, slave mages have a nature random so you don't necessarily need to worry too much about that.
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>>145269002
Fuck you. I'll win. I am about 50 turns from it.
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>>145278584
A lot can happen in 50 turns.
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>>145278878
I am on my way. It's not like I am unstoppable, but the MASTER PALN is ready.
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>>145269275
To be fair, the Agartha troops that they buffed are fucking useless.
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I haven't play Conquest of elysium 4 for quite some time

Should I be expecting random animal to capture all my shit still?
I took a quick look over patch notes but I didn't see anything regarding this
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>>145280681
If you don't have some token defense stationed at your sites, expect to lose them to dumb shit.

You can play in an age with less forests which helps tune down the amount of random animals a bit though.
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>>145280681
With forts having gates as of COE4, a single archer can protect forts against almost any independent invasion.
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>>145228982
I'm gonna lose this one. Rlyeh teleported a team of commandos onto the other throne I took this turn, and, as early Ulm in late game who was behind in research and gems to two players, a throne grab was my last chance at winning
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>>145230751
Easy research, I have magic 3 and boosters, he has bad provinces, and he's blood hunting
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>>145281038
In retrospect, I'd likely have won this one if I had snagged Ctis's province instead. He didn't have anywhere near the same magic phase response ability that Ryleh had.
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>>145283529
I did wonder why you went for my throne, the reason it wasn't forted was because I could teleport aboleths there when needed, though your dome stopped a few vital ones making it
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Do your fucking turns (or, admin, if you can react in time, make an extension)!
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>>145286052
Too bad, looks like they staled.
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>>145211006
i convinced my peaceful ally to attack a neighbour while sneaking hundred of bats into his lands for a one-turn 10 province backstab.
i felt terrible since the poor guy was already out of the game and wanted to play as my vassal, but i just simply couldn't trust him enough.
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noob here returning after a year of not playing this dank game.
is there a PBEM to join? i hope it won't be too big because i hate microing hundred of provinces ( not that i count to survive to lategame but still).
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Full version of Magic Enhanced out
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2927&st=0
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>>145290178
ChaosHander
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>>145290919
i am seeing madman changes everywhere. i like it.
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>>145290919
>Worldwide Drain scales increase by 1 per month.
In Drain 1+ Mages researching or any Mage with a path
at 4+ may gain Feeblemind affliction.


that's some BoT-tier bullshit, but worse.
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>>145290919
Did that faggot remember to make a version with just the new national spells like he said he would?

Because that's the only part I'm interested in.
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>>145292027
Rise of the Insects is a pretty funny spell.
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>>145293290
i've seen a lot of funny broken shit.
looks like everyone will want to keep a big stack of pearls to dispel all that bullshit.

the real question is: will we run a game to try it out?
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>>145262103
Sure, we can talk.

Are you still here?
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>>145290919
>Ohlmann being autistic about the title of the mod

laff

Back in reality, I like what I'm seeing but I worry it places far too much focus on global enchantments.
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>>145295614
Blood nations even more OP because they're going to win the competition for global slots hands down?
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.kristoffer [developer] 9 hours ago
And please refrain from commenting on each others skills (and perhaps your own as well).
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>>145296254
Link?
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>>145296254
>getting called out by one of the developers
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>>145290919
>you can waifu Reimu now
GOAT MOD
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>>145296254
http://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/discussions/0/357287935565592606/
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>>145296254
Rejakor on suicide watch
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>>145296749
Must, refrain, self, from, shouting, about, killing, therodos
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>>145184534
top kek
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>>145296706
Wait what?
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>>145296749
>rejakor accusing someone in using anecdotal evidence
At least you learned something from those retarded discussions, you dingus.
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>ErmorOP started

It begins
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Prepare yourselves.
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>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ChaosHander
>Mods: Item Units 0.6L

i am trying to read the mod file to understand what it does but i can't quite get it. does anyone know what the hell the mod is about and if there is some item i should care about in it?
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>Horror Mark and Curse remain even after death
What is this bullshit
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>>145301657
It adds spells to each nation that you can cast to create sites. These sites allow the recruiting of special troop types that come pre-equipped with magic items.

Basically it allows you to "upgrade" your troops as time goes on, giving you gold-recruitables that are more equivalent to summons in the late game.
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>>145302732
This is what makes the unlife of that lich with 5743 kills a little more difficult.
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>>145302732
Horrormarking with magic is already weak enough
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>>145300864
Does Ermor always start in the same spot on that map?
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>>145303449
Yes, it's hardcoded in the map file. I don't know what happens if there's no Ermor though.
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>>145300762
>>145300864
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>ErmorOP
They weren't lying
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>>145305292
throw fire flies at it.
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>>145296848
>>145296749
Which post is kristoffer referring to?
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>>145306235
Hard to say, considering Rejakor mentions how skillfull he is and/or how bad is everyone who disagress with him every second post.
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>>145268882
Desura pls go
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>>145306702
Did Rejakor's posts get deleted or does he have a different name there? Because there's no posts by him under that name.
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>>145306997
Shinuyama is Rejakor.
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>>145306997
I wish all his posts in all possible universes got deleted.
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>>145281038
Ha, if that was your last chance then Arco is fucked. As you said in >>145281141, I only have 2 good provinces, my capital and the garnet sorc province. I had a third nice one but you took it and Towered it. I actually have really good research too, 7 and 8s across the board, just sub 400 income a turn. Maybe with father Illearth and all these demon knights I can stage a comeback and make some money off of taking your lands.
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>page 10
ayo hol up
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>>145310805
Do your turns and maybe I'd have something interesting to talk about.
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>>145311273
I've done all my turns
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>>145294098
no but I' here friend. Hit me up sometime
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>tfw it's sunday night, I've done all my turns, and I'm out of beer
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>>145313707
Hold on I'll be in the steam chat in a minute.

My Steam name is Random Number God.
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>>145305292
>susceptible to fire
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>>145305292
I made all thugs thematic but not unkillable. Like, literally just fire brand that guy to death.
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>>145315004
give him a barkskin amulet desu
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I found an error in the most recent item units, all the UW site rituals can't be cast because they are both cannot be cast UW and must be cast UW.
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RotP Sauro, chat me up
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>>145315451
Wait what
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>>145313747
>out of beer
Time to break out the rum.
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>>145315560
If I try to cast them UW it says "cannot be cast UW" if I try to cast them on land it says "cannot be cast on land"
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>>145315703
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>145302732
Horror marking wears off. Curse doesn't.
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I forgot just how fucking ridiculously expensive Knights of the Chalice are. Jesus Christ.
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>>145316440
What they lack in affordability they make up for in smiting power

DEUS VULT! DEUS -EXTREMELY- VULT!
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>>145316596
Lol horse armor
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>>145316596
I took a bigass bless so like three of them will be solid expanders, but still, I can get literally one out a turn as of now. That's kind of crazy.
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>>145315682
I habe none.

I'm a poorfag and beer is my only solace.
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>>145316807
Get cheap wine. Beer makes you fat before it makes you drunk. Shit's liquid bread
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>>145316807
>poor
>not drinking wine or whisky
You have only yourself to blame.
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>>145316993
>>145317043
Yeah but if I want anything but beer I have to get into town, while I can get ber literally around the corner
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UW a shit
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UW a shit
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ded
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UW a shit
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>>145319198
>>145319226
>>145319496
I'm guessing that you've got the same connection problem thing that I just had.
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>>145319636
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UW is happy and nice
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Some UW nations are a lot of fun.
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>>145317128
Most convenience stores sell box wine.

I mean, it's box wine, but still.
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Long shot but would anyone be interested in some dark souls 1? I got an old SL 120 quality build I would love to reuse but no forwarded ports, don't remember if that matters for steam *servers* or not
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>>145316759
E4N9?

That's what I always went with for bless based Marignon. Or E6N9. Turns Chalice Knights into proper little murderpaladins.
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>>145322903
There was recently a "restart DS1" thing where a bunch of people started from scratch.
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>>145322903
I haven't played DS1 in ages
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>>145323642
yeah I noticed, hence my rekindled (zing) interest
>>145323698
same, but I figured why not
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>>145323758
I mean I wouldn't mind starting over since I never actually finished it, but what's your plan?
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I have yet to finish DS3, so that's my next project when I feel like tumbling and dying a lot
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>>145323867
start a new build, use this Node mod called DSCM, and just co-op until we get bored. I plan to make a lvl 60 build so I can invade in anor londo or the 4 lords area
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Hey Admin of ErmorOP
I accidentally submitted the wrong pretender, can we quickly unstart so I can send in the one I wanted to use.

Thank you
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>>145324679
NIGGER
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>>145181727
Alright kiddies, it looks like the pool is off limits due to someone shitting in it. R'lyeh and Oceania sadly can't attend this magical duel.
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>>145324679
You fucking asshole.
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>>145325114
I'm not the original modder, but I could send you a fixed version of the mod.
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so a seeking arrow hit my pretender while he was moving between provinces. It said that he survived the arrow, but he actually died and I had to resummon him. Is this a bug or is seeking arrow supposed to kill your pretender?
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Agartha!

if you Stall one more time you will be subbed out, this is your warning. Turn will be extended by 12 hours to give you a fair chance
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>>145324679
I say fuck em and keep it going.
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How many people would be willing to join if I started a blitz? I am a noob and wish to practice against something other than AI
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>>145329641
Go into the steam chat and yell blitz at moggers
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>>145329809
I just got done playing SC2 with moggers and he's playing it some more with someone else, I CAN'T ALWAYS RELY ON MOGGERS
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>>145329938
Hit the spam blitz notifications button till some people turn up then?
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>>145330221
that didn't even occur to me.
I've never touched steam group functions outside of joining the chat. I'll give it a try once I'm done tweaking my pretender.
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>>145331063
Please don't actually spam it. Once is enough.
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>>145331585
This. The spam was why I left the group whenever I did that.
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>>145294098
>>145313707
>>145313879
I'll be around if you guys want to diplomacise. Man must grow larger, but Man doesn't have to grow larger at your expense.
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>>145332290
I got nothing to really diplo with you since we only share a one province border, but hit me up in steam chat if you have anything worth mentioning
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Here's an update on Nazca's 'invasion' of my rightful lands. It didn't have to be like it is but now it do. You stupid birds thought you were hot shit and now it's cost you.

The more you push this thing the more it'll bleed you down to nothing. If you fly back to Nazca I won't chase you down. I'll only take back what's mine, with a bit of interest for the trouble you've caused.
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>>145332870
>invaded with his normie troops
<rattling_in_the_distance>
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>>145332530
The people that you don't border make the best allies tbbqhfam
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>>145332530
All right, I don't suppose that it's possible to use the /v/anheim group chat on the steam phone app is it? My bandwidth is dangerously close to being kill right now.
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>>145332870
How much PD?
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>>145329215
The game only just started, chill your tits.

The pretender I had sent in doesn't even have anything on it but the default stuff, which is why I'd prefer to use my real pretender
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>>145334078
>I'm going to delay the start of the game because I'm retarded

Literally 13 other people managed to send in the correct pretender.
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>>145334303

Yeah well I thought I sent in the right one, you're making a bigger deal out of this than it should be.
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>>145332870
This is pleasing knowledge. Also Arco hands of that throne. My god needs super size and that's where she is gonna park her fat ass
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I really don't know what you expected this to accomplish, to be honest.
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okay who here wants to blitz with a noob,
steam group seems to be dead at this hour.
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>>145290919
Anyone wants to do a LA game with this mod?
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>>145342207
That honestly just sounds like a bad time
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>Yomi priest casting ghost grip

I didn't think PD got magic randoms for some reason
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>>145342207
I'd play.
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Play your turns
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Go forth my deathless thread!
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>>145341391

Yea after the nerf VW is not what it used to be. Size 3 water elementals die to skele spam.
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>>145350472
That's because size 3 elementals are fucking garbage.
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>>145332290
Are you still here?

Looks like we're on at different times every time.
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Midgard and Lemuria, are you here?
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>>145350472
Size 3 water eles are what it did before. They got reduced to size 2.
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>>145351557
>size two
A size two water elemental will probably die to a fucking indie commander.
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>>145351649
You get much stronger water elementals in coastal, swamp or underwater provinces.

Cold provinces give ice elementals which are much larger than their water counterparts too.

Of course, all of that was before the nerf, not sure how much of it is still true.
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>>145324679
You couldn't even check your goddamn pretender before sending it?

Unstarted, make it quick.
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>>145351557

Nope, before it did size6 I distinctly remember that being the case.
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>>145335273
Tell me who you are so I can feed you to Ermor.
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The wiki contains accurate, up to date information on water elemental sizes. It's still 6 in coasts and swamps, 5 uw, and 3 on provinces with river borders
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>>145350472
>>145351557
Size 6 water elementals die to a death mage, nevermind size 3
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>>145352115
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>>145352158
I know that it does because I put it there a while back after testing it
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Aha, the hero play worked. I was a bit surprised it did when several of my teleporting mages got intercepted by horrors.

20% Regen defensive fort Tart stronk apparently.
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>>145352353
And what I lost during this fight: Not much to C'tis, quite a bit to fucking horror intercepts though.
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I'm just glad that no matter how late the game goes, the DESERT RANGERS remain an elite fighting force
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>>145352003
See >>145351762

Inland water elementals have always been relatively weak. You either need cold scales (it summons much larger ice elementals than water, for some reason) or coastal/swamp/UW provinces.

>>145352115
The wiki is missing details on ice elementals in cold provinces.

I just tested and got a size 5 ice elemental in a completely inland province with cold 3, so they're clearly not gone.
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>>145352779
Add it
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>>145352452
is this wod?
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What are the counters to skeleton spam? Bonus points if they use Earth, fire, water and death paths

I can only think of earthquake
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>>145355629
Magma Eruption
Cleansing Water
Dust to Dust
Wither Bones
Earthquake
Not Being a Scrub
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>>145355629
>>145355749
stuff like fire clouds too,thugs with that shield that gives fire shield, shit that targets only living targets to fuck up the mages ( it can be countered by them having some living guards); there is also a nature battlefield enchantment spell that eats one square of undead every turn, but i can't recall its name.
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acid storm
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>>145355629
>what are the counters to skelespam

literally anything
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>>145358147
acid storm is a counter to anything including your own troops though
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>>145359609
>he uses iron
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>>145352690
they are the true super heros of the game
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Your pantokrator gives you Tuatha slave
Wat do
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I need a sub for Memegeddon Ulm. I have a very strong position and strong allies. Let me know if you would like to take over.
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I wish I had access to relief and mass regen

Pythium is AI now but he put up a damn good fight
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>>145366152
>gets attacked by 5 nations
>I am in a very strong position but I'm gonna leave the game
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>>145364978
>you'll never be a Tuatha slave
>you'll never be dominated by hot Tuatha witches
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>>145366335

You sure you're thinking of the right game, friend? Getting attacked by 5 nations would be news to me.
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>>145368720
R'lyeh can see the future, as of the latest patch gets the turn files for 3 turns ahead as well as the current turn.
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>>145368720
Nah, that was in flatus.

We all count as 5 nations at this point, right?
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hello Admin of ErmorOP I have submitted the right pretender this time.

I'm sorry for causing you guys trouble, and delaying the game but I'm 100% sure its the right one now. thank you for being patient with me
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>>145370390
You better hope I don't start next to you.
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>>145371156
What's his nation anyway? I'd be up for a gangbang if I start in some shithole this time.
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>>145372263
Marignon, but no gangbangs until skeletons are removed.
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>>145372549
We'll see about that.
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>>145372549
But Marignon's pretender is the same. It's either Ys or Abysia.
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>>145372667
What if it was Ermor?
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>>145372879
Then it would be extremely spooky.
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>>145372879
Of all players I'd think the Ermor player would have his shit together.
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>>145372879
Only two players actually changed their pretender.

My money's on Ys.
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>>145373141
But he could delete old pretender and create new one with the same name.
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>>145373281
Possibly, but it's pointless to worry about people who might have changed their pretender when there's two who changed it without a doubt.
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>>145373459
At least one person took the opportunity to switch their pretender around, figuring they might as well now that they have the chance. It doesn't seem that much less likely that the actual switcher kept the same name and at least two people also switched at the same time.
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>>145373459
>>145373281
>>145373141
>>145373023
>>145372952
>>145372879
Fellow pretenders, stop fighting! That's what Ermor wants us to do! Don't you see? It's all part of his master plan.
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>>145373619
Stop trying to deflect the blame, Ys.

If I was the admin you wouldn't have been allowed to ask for a restart without revealing who you are.
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>>145373682
>>145373619
>>145373459
>>145373281
>>145373141
>>145373023
>>145372952
>>145372879
>>145372667
>emorian diplomacy at work
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>when the infighting goes just right
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>>145373682
>If I was the admin you wouldn't have been allowed to ask for a restart without revealing who you are.
Why would it actually matter?
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>>145374348
it doesn't. Ermor trying to Rattle up the competition
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>>145374348
>Why would it actually matter?
Because this way literally anyone could ask for a restart, even if they're not actually in the game.
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>>145374464
With a group of players like the rest of you guys, I doubt Ermor has to do anything at all to stir the pot.
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>>145372879
Yeah it was me. :^)
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People, don't you see that this is what Ermor wants?

We must stand united against the undead menace!

He starts with like four SCs, all his heroes, and a couple of supermages right off the bat, I mean come on.
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>>145373682
desu I wouldn't allow a restart at all

If you sit on your ass for a week and don't pipe up until after the game already started, your fuckup is entirely your own fault, and you don't deserve special treatment for it.
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>>145374513
Nobody ever does that though. This community has pretty decent standards for fucking with games.
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>>145328389
I asked for a sub ages ago cause my computer is trashed
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>>145374618
I gave up hope when I saw the flying mummy desu
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>>145375295
oh yeah. I completely forgot that

that's what I get for playing in 9 games
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>>145374348
I would want to know so I could target him.
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>>145375571
>join a game with specific intentions of fighting a super power ermor
>some guy delayed the game by a day, I'm gonna wrekt him because he submitted the wrong pretender by accident!
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>>145366152
Ulm buddy, it's sad to see you needing a sub for your campaign, but you've been a great guy and I'll definitely miss you when you're gone. I would very much like it if you either finished the trade deal we had, or sent back the payment before another person takes over your nation for you.
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>>145375685
I can fight Ermor better with two capitals.
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>>145373141
Sorry I'm late to the smacktalk, but yes I just took the chance to shift something, as per >>145373619
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>>145375870
>I'll definitely miss you when you're gone

I guess that's why you've been asking several of his neighbours to attack him.
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>>145376554
Oh, good, I'm glad none of my talks have stayed Private. It's bad for a full disclosure policy if things don't get disclosed. I did in fact tell people that I would not attack Ulm first, and that if they wanted to fight him, they would need to get their own support from other nations and not rely on my relation with them to gain support.

You did leave out that I said if I ever fought Ulm, it would be against his main force, and I would honor his nations strait-forwards deals with a strait-forward battle against his main force and forgo underhanded raiding, at least until after the main armies got a chance to fight it out, or he decided to start raiding first. This hypothetical is however at odds with the wonderful and rich bargaining we have had opportunity to make at every talk. The current Ulm is a solid ally and someone that I enjoy talking to, when his tight schedule permits.

I will make Oeridia Great Again, but with Ulm's origional player departure, it might never be as great as it once could have been.
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>Number Nerds troops crash the game if you watch them fight

dis shit be whack
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>>145375870

Don't worry, I'll honor our agreement, or at least make sure my successor does.
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TUUUUUUUUUUUURNS
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take a turn
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Sum1, are you listening? Mod idea: an item that gives recuperation to a commander. Would make fielding large monsters a little less scary. Or make a woundfend amulet give it, nobody uses it anyway.
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Agartha has a new dick head running it, treat him warmly, old agartha sorry I forgot about your computer frying, it's been a busy week
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never underestimate
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Any neighbors on for some dirty backroom deals?
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>>145390148
I"ll backroom your deal lewdly
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>>145390148
you
attack ragha
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>>145390148
What he said -> >>145391090
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>>145391090
>>145391151

Stop bullying the poor bird, he can't even hold his cap circle
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>>145392287
As long as he still has his cap, he deserves to get bullied.
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>>145392287
can we talk somewhere else?
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>>145392792
In the group chat
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>>145392873
>>145392792
Fuck you, guys.
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>>145393427
ghosts can't talk!
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this is the future you chose
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>>145398007
the fun ends here
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Rate my SC, the cause of C'tis' suffering.
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>>145385045
Not moddable.
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>>145398837
>jade armor and boots of quickness
redundant much redundant?
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>>145398837
>MR 17

If C'tis isn't a moron he should have been throwing a bunch of pen boosted Control The Dead at you to steal your shit.
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>>145399276
the fact it is a hydra skin armor doesnt help either
>limited regen
>undead
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>>145399276
oh wait, it's hydraskin + ring of regen. just change the ring to magic resist amulet.
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>>145398837
>Hydra Skin Armour
Doesn't work on undead. Try again.

>Storm Spool
wew lad get some MR up in there

>Iron Face
Nice 20 E gems

That's all I got. What's your scripting like?
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>>145399396
I had seen the army beforehand, and figured that he wouldn't change the scripting.
Control the Dead also only has 20 range (even disintegrate has 25 range), which I made sure he was never in range of. And hee didn't bring enough S mages to make enslave a big enough threat. (The turn 0 RoS didn't help things either).

The 20% regen was super important, and summon e-power provided sufficient reinvig.
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>>145399385
>>145399762
Are you guys memeing?
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>>145399762
>>145399762
Hydra skin armor does work on undead. Try again.

He had slyphs and air elementals (only the slyphs actually showed up) and t-strikers. He had nothing using MR spells.

The ironface cost me 0 gems. It was removed from the face of a Bane Lord.

As for spells cast, RoS > Summon E-power > Temper Flesh > Resist Lightning > Flying Shield
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I like how scrubs are first to comment on other players' SCs. Never change, /domg/.
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>>145400556
It's always the mid-level scrubs who speak up and are wrong, because newbs know they don't know shit and top level players rarely feel the need to comment.

That leaves the scrubs.
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>>145399920
no, sorry, I actually thought that undead counted as lifeless
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Livelier than a jellyfish in hell
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>>145404561
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>>145216248
o shit waddup
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post games recruiting
because 9 games arent enough
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>>145407230
it is for me, i'm not as good as lambert-san
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>>145407230
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=OnePunchChump
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>>145407230
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ChaosHander
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>>145407417
>Story events on
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>>145407629
>afraid of a little story
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>>145407417
>>145407617
Thanks but no thanks
I cant take Ys for a test trive in meme games
Or can I...
>>
Man Waiting for 2h file
Midgard Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i Waiting for 2h file
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how does casting perpetual storm then spamming tengus as Jomon sound? Its a lot of gems so I doubt its viable.
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>>145409630
>Its a lot of gems so I doubt its viable
That's pretty much it. You'll most likely never get enough gems for it to be worth it unless you're also shutting down a flying nation.
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>>145366823
Reminder that elves have no word for rape

If you see pic related, you better hide your sons and husbands
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>>145411553
Elves have no word for consent either
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>>145174069
Actually I've been swarmed by work to now, no stales though but not enough time to commit.. Just been gobbling the AI Shino really not much has happened. If you want back in let me know.
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I would ask if everyone's watching E3 but it's not as though there's much to watch in the first place
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>>145417689
>GoW being complete shit
I am
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>>145417841
GoW was always complete shit. They mooch off cool mythology and still manage to fucking ruin it. Kratos has been a huge Mary Sue ever since God of War II and it's only gotten worse as the franchise drags on.
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>>145417689
Fuck the modern games industry. The only developers left who have any worth are the smalltime ones and the hipster companies.

E3 this year has been a profound disappointment thus far.
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>>145370390
Fuck I hated the pretender I submitted like two weeks ago. Tfw missed out on my chance to right my wrongs.
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>>145419747
>indie developers produce interesting games but are often limited in scope or polish despite having interesting ideas
>large developers take very few risks but are the only ones capable of doing certain types of games well
At least bannerlord looks fun when we get to play it in 2019
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Anyone interested in subbing for Ulm? Currently they are one of the top 5 powers, and if bats are to be believed are leading in provinces.

Current Ulm wishes to focus on FLATUS more.
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>>145420715
>Bannerlord will never cease to be vapourware

Why live
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>>145421770
It's not vaporware given that we've actually seen a moderate amount of gameplay footage, it's just taking forever.
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>>145398837
Pretty good, but I'm curious why you chose Iron Face. Your tart can already cast Ironskin on itself, was having an extra script slot that important?
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>>145422862
I chose the Ironface because I had it lying around (the only other helmet I had on standby was a black steel one). It actually was hugely important, because my Army of Gold caster for that fight got intercepted by horrors, though I likely could have simply dropped either resist lightning or flying shield and been fine.
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hi

Still working on the cave system that'll be displayed underneath the main map.
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>>145425553
>cave system that'll be displayed underneath the main map.
Fuck yeah, this is one of my favorite features and is something I've been working on myself.

Also, is this just a horizontal wrap map? I saved it to check out the wrapping real quick and it totally doesn't line up. Just wondering if that was the intent.
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>>145425956
Yeah, it's going to be horizontal wrap. I still need to fix the edges.
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Atlantis, I just checked my provinces. You'll be pleased to know none of them can produce amphibious units. Those swamps you were interested in? Nothing but militia and archers, bro
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>>145428007
lies
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>>145425553
Looks sweet as fuck. How many nations Is it made for? How many aquatic?
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>>145428007
Wow that is a load of my mind. If anyone wants to trade gems BTW I have some nature I can't do anything with. Maybe some astral too.
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>>145425553
I'm a little gay for you rn. Looks unbalanced, but way pretty enough to make up for that.
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>>145428749
any province that has living amphibious indies can recruit them
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>>145425553
I pray you have some plan for making the cave system more transparent. I've never played a cave system map that didn't come off as unwieldy and bizarre, aside from maps which show the world at a 45 degree angle and do not use a separate sheet to show the caves.
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Did you remember to put 1 white pixel in each province?
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Alright domg, what was the longest amount of time you spend scripting a turn.

Mine would be 7 hours.
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>>145436346
Does that include the time spent going "wait, that's shit" and then redoing half of your turn?
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>>145436664
I mean, I was counting the time waiting for the game to buffer as I sifted through a couple thousand ghosts in a single fort, so I guess that's fair.
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are there any tutorials on how just to play the basics of the game without being explained by a perma virgin that doesn't demonstrate what he's explaining via actually editing his video?
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>>145439872
There's a tutorial in the manual :^)
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Did you know that if you prophetize a C'tis shaman, he gets +1 astral and +2 nature (S2N3)
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when you prophetize an Abysian he becomes a teenager
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>>145439872
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXa4InahZRZmT0PL_zzmbebWnTa5IxK4m
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>>145376407
>>145374672

I didn't sign up until sunday there was 13 people signed up before me, including y's.

but if you're so ass blasted about it I'll smack you up first :^)
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Play your turns
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>>145444214
no
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>>145444592
If you don't play your turns, you die
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>>145445313
too late
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Don't mind me, just a friendly neighborhood Pythium passing by.
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Oh, look who decided to show up when the Emperor asked nicely! How kind of you, Who is a kin to the Lord.
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>>145425553
>UW provinces the size of 10 normal provinces

This sin't meant to be played by UW nations then?
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>>145449348
The overall amount of UW provinces is what matters the most: if you had just one UW nation for example, they'd actually be in a really good spot due to having such a huge abundance of provinces to expand to with little contention. Indeed, the map can fit several UW nations while giving them a decent amount of provinces.

The disadvantage of such big provinces is being a subject to a higher number of enemy temple checks while they offer an advantage by offering increased mobility compared to land armies (since you only have 1 map movement underwater, that's a pretty important advantage/equalizer if you ever want to raid coastal provinces).
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OP Agartha and Asspoodle, do your turns.
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>>145451221
Yeah but you'd also be unable to defend it all if someone else came underwater due to having territory literally all over the map. While being UW is very safe in earlygame depending on which other nations are in the game, once they start going underwater you suddenly border everyone at once, and you won't be able to quickly move your troops to respond to a threat because lol UW movement.

The temple check thing isn't as relevant as you think. You're not likely to get domkilled and while you probably won't be spreading your dominion on land until you get a decent foothold, it's not that hard to maintain your dom everywhere except for some of those straits and bays. It's more the fact that your borders will be literally everywhere that makes you super vulnerable if some land nations decide to stop ignoring what's going on UW.
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>>145451221
>>145449348
the problem is that almost all maps treat UW provinces as a filler/connective/hyperlink system instead of a region so you end up having 20 provinces bordering 7 other nations with an incredible amount of connections/province.

having just a big lake in a corner of the map would make UW gameplay more comparable with land gameplay.
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>>145452143
Because of big provinces you are able to respond to threats faster, though. With big provinces anyone can attack you (let's suppose a stretch of 10 water provinces has borders with 3 different players), but if the provinces were smaller and 10 of your provinces had only one neighbour, it'd still take 10 turns to get from one stretch of this territory to another and while you might not be at risk of being ganged up on from multiple sides, a land nation could still run circles around you. It's also worth noting that UW nations generally speaking can't win evenly matched land wars so it's useful to have mobility (ie. big water provinces) to reach potential backstab targets more quickly.

Ultimately, there's both advantages and disadvantages to big and small (or similar to land provinces, rather) province sizes. I've played UW nations with both and I don't think it's such a big deal either way. Ultimately, you'd be happiest having a large sea where forts could have a good number of neighbours and from where you could easily mobilize your forces to any coastal province, but most maps don't have proper seas and underwater provinces are little more than rivers going around the whole map and making the provinces big/small isn't going to change much of anything.
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Next time some retard starts spamming me with turn resends I'm going to start sending my turns at the last possible minute on purpose.

Fuck off.
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>>145454579
sent ;^)
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>>145454579
Literally anyone can spam you, even me, the person not even in that game. Calm your tits.
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>>145454579
sent.
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>>145457112
Because people would totally go into a random game and start spamming turn resends, right?
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>>145457391
If you continue to bitch about it, I'm totally going to.
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>>145457650
>getting this triggered
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>>145457690
Don't say I didn't warn you.
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>>145457725
>implying I'm TC

Enjoy your butthurt though.
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>>145457786
Well, I'm not the one getting those 99 resends.
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>>145457815
Neither am I.

But you are the one wasting your energy and Llama's bandwith sending 99 spam mails because some random comment triggered your autism.
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>>145457894
Touche. But you are the one posting image macros that imply that I have strong feelings towards this whole affair.
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>>145457978
I don't need to imply anything.

You wouldn't send someone 99 emails unless you were either mad as fuck, extremely autistic, or both.
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>>145458061
Let me tell you a secret: I actually didn't. I'm just shitposting here to keep the thread alive.
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>>145458138
That's pretty much what I'm doing too. Why do you think I'm wasting my time defending someone who's my opponent in this game?
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>>145458274
GOT YOU! That was a part of my master plan! Now I will crash your e-mail with no survivors.

Not really.
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I've made a grave mistake.
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>>145458485
I'm just glad Gmail puts them all under the same header so I don't get a page full of these things.
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See, kids, we learned something today. Bitching about turn resends when people know who you are is a bad idea.
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>>145458738
Eh, it seems to have stopped at 24. And after the first one, it doesn't matter if it's one or a thousand, since Gmail only shows one if they're all the same anyway and I can get rid of them with two clicks.

The other guy is wasting far more time and effort sending those requests than I have to spend removing them.
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>>145459065
you are forgetting how hilarious it is, even if it's not that annoying.
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Late man are u here?
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>when you actually feel motivated to do your end game turns
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>>145462538
nvm
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>>145462915
Why is that a sad photo? Endgame turns can be fun if you're actually excited for them!
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>>145463305
it's tears of relief. I can see the end in sight
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>>145463305
>whackamole
>fun
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>>145465660
>can be
>is always
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>>145465982
>can be fun if you're actually excited for them!

this is the equivalent of saying something is fun if you lobotomize yourself
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>>145440127
Lies.
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WIZARD ASSISTANCE
SORCERERS' GUIDANCE
CONJURERS' BACKING
MAGICIANS' AID
WARLOCKS' HELP

I forgot that I had african militia with me too. RIP, best human castle defence in the game.
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>>145466475
why is it that every blitz that happens I always see a screenshot of Machaka dropping black magic on Aryan ulms who don't need no sticken magic
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>>145466659
This is not a blitz, actually.
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>>145451221
>>145452143
>>145453228
Given that the map is horizontal-wrap, the relatively dense section of sea at the edges of the map actually works fine for forming the core of your UW kingdom
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>>145466447
Does it not get the increased paths? The prophetshape says it does.
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>>145466475
Today I learned that Warriors of Musphelheim gives COLD resist not Fire resist.
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>>145467392

Neither EA or MA ctis get increased paths (besides priest level 3) when you prophetize a C'tis Shaman recruited from a fort.

Perhaps the indy ones do, but I haven't tested that yet.
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>>145467503
>didn't read the spell description properly
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>>145467392
In theory it does, but in practice not.

It's becasue magic paths are tied to the individual unit's ID, not to its type (or else stuff like Transformation would be useless). Even if a unit changes shape (through transformation, prophetshape, twiceborn, etc) its unit ID will stay the same, and so do its magic paths.

Only transformations that give a BONUS (like the transformation spell sometimes does) affect your paths, but transformations that simply override your paths (like prophetshape) do nothing at all.
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>>145467503
You fell for a classic blunder. Namely, believing that the manual is up to date.
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>>145467526
>>145467634
Ok, thanks for checking.

Does the lizard king dude get +40 leadership?
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>>145467769
AFAIK that part does work.
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>>145467727
I knew I didn't get that idea from nowhere
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>>145468012
Psssh... Sleep now, child...

Besides, bane fire would still work.
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>>145468080
Bane fire is like double fire.

So hot it burns even fire elementals and fire demons from hell.
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>>145467769

Just tested it some more. Nothing interesting happens if EA Ctis prophetizes an indy lizard shaman. Same with EA Ur.

Nothing interesting happens with EA Ctis prophetizing a Lizard King. Leadership remains the same.
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>>145468325
It's more like a soul-burning fire of the underworld that makes even ghosts wither and die.
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>>145468474
Regular fire works against ghosts too.
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>>145468538
What can I say, ghosts are pussies in this game.
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>>145468461
Yeah, I wanted to do a mod where nations can only recruit apprentice mages and they level up using xpshape into forms with more paths over time.

Unfortunately that doesn't work without a buttload of triggered events or weird #pathboosts, so I had to shelve it.
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>>145468461
>>145467769
The lizard king doesn't get increased leadership because both his regular shape and his prophetshape have 120 leadership in the code, so there's no reason for it to change in the first place.
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<bullies Internally>
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Mage support is the biggest meme domg ever memed
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>>145470230
130 blessed Shikomes and 2 Dai Oni SCs vs awful Caelum troops might have something to do with that.
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>>145470925

DaiOni mages tho. Well, one mage one thug.
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>>145471159
Are you telling me that Dai Tengu wasn't flinging real nigga buffs around?
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>>145471337

I cast divine blessing, darkness, end of weakness and fog warriors, the rest of the mages spammed frighten and lightning resistance.
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>>145471337
>>145471497

And he used RoS, fog warriors and air evos.
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>>145471702
Using RoS in a battle like that is pretty fucking stupid.
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>set up a large communion as Pythium
>fully script all my masters
>they literally won't cast anything on-script aside from communion master and then EVERY SINGLE ONE spams Divine Retribution over and over again

Help.
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>>145472064
They either:
Don't have enough levels or don't have enough gems to cast their spells. (Note that masters can't spend a gem to boost their path)
What are you trying to cast with what masters and how many slaves anyway?
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>>145472883
>they don't have enough levels
These fucks have a path boost of four, plus two astral-enhancing items on the field. Every master has S8, plus A/F/W6.

They all have a fuckton of appropriate gems. Is this just >illfraud coding?
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>>145472064
What are you fighting? Does it trigger gem spending at all?
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>>145472883
>>145473093
Oh and your targets might also be out range or this >>145473189
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>>145473189
A sizable enough army to trigger gem spending, probably 150~ troops. Plus, I've got some scripted stuff that doesn't need gems here and there.

I think something just must be borked somewhere, either with my code or just a fucked-up command or mod. I'm gonna check around with technical stuff and come back if it's still persisting.
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>>145473329
Send me your turn, I'll look it up.
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>>145473418
Nah, it's cool, I can handle checking out the technical side of things. I was just wondering if there was something retarded I was missing.
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>>145473516
hint: you're probably being retarded and it's not the game's fault
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>>145473593
This would be more likely if I wasn't running five gorgonzillion mods.
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>>145472016
I was aware of the Dai Tengu but I had not seen Alteration 7 spells yet (for example, just a few turn earlier neither Phoenix Pyre or Soul Vortex was a part of Dai Oni buff cycle - although I think Yomi did right to ignore them in the script since spells like Resist Cold actually were more important given the situation, but it was a possible weakness and being in dire straits, possible weakness was all I got to work with) so I entertained some hope Yomi didn't have Fog Warriors available yet.

The hope was to cause an HP-based rout from RoS and then hopefully mop up the bulk of the force as they fled but as seen in the screenshot, that didn't work out. Either way it was an all in, prior to that turn I didn't have anything on Shikome besides more Thunder Strike and shitty birds (and considering the state I was in, barely having gotten out of 1vs7 gangbang, I didn't have too many more of either) and because RoS was the only foreseeable counter, I attacked the first turn an opportunity presented itself in the vain hope I struck before Yomi reached Alt. 7 (I would have had slightly more forces available if I had waited a turn or two, but when I kept thinking about the possible results, I was quite convinced they wouldn't have been able to turn the tides, and considering that battle was a rout, I'm pretty sure my assessment was the correct one, so I decided to strike immediately and hope the RoS tactic worked).
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IS the guy running horror nations here? we need to do some Parley
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>>145474858
egassem ruoy tog I

noos
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>>145469910
>Event rolls insanely highly to give you 7k gold
>Event doesn't actually give you 7k gold and kills your mage instead

Good times
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>>145477362
*Scout*

I wouldn't waste valuable mages on the city so I just keep sending scouts with nothing but their bare daggers
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>>145477502
Do you suppose a luck amulet might be worth it? 75% chance to not die when killed and it should work even for this.
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ErmorOP Asphodel, get a grip.
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>>145478001
perhaps. I don't know mechanics of "dungeon crawling" well enough to understand what exactly helps and doesnt
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>>145478001
Countering dozen crossbow bolts to the chest might require a bit more.
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>>145478001
He took 12 crossbow bolts.

Send in a tartarian and it might survive.
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>>145478040
Sorry, my mistake.
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arise
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Well, at least I can still fights if mistformed blockers don't get instantly routed by 6 attacks per square magic attacks

Maybe I'll try to survive until the end of the game by becoming a migrating horde
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>>145484415
Where did you get that cool interface color?
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>>145484597
Copied from Dominions 3 (http://www.mediafire.com/download/iz49ybybhzsk2o9/dom3ui.rar)
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Illfraud unironically thought that someone would build a temple in the province just to recruit those guys 1 at a time. For 100 gold. Just let that sink in for a moment.
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>>145484415
Is this Rotp?
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>>145484912

SansMemes

>>145484415
Sasuga bird-sama
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>>145484912
SansMemes, forgot to quote Yomi (>>145470230)
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>>145484901
Eh. Leadership 80 and the ability to ignore most difficult terrain has some uses.
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>>145485035
But it's not worth 100 gold+temple for an undisciplined commander.
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>>145485519
Undisciplined does nothing on commanders afaik.
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>>145485519
commanders can still be scripted disciplined or not
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>>145485558
>>145485643
Yeah, but what if he gets hit by Enslave Mind? What then, huh?
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>>145485857
Yeah! What if you want to wish for 40 of those guys and use them as elite sacreds, huh? HUUUUH?!!?!
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>>145485857
>>145485945
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>>145485857
then he's a SLAVE to his instincts
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>>145486384
That sounds really lewd.
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>>145488508
not as lewd as the hooded spirit, that s/he is a total slut
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>>145405339
What is the context on this image?
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>>145489463
wikihow is a magical place
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>>145425553
>all those blobs of one terrain type
>giant water provinces bordering like a dozen provinces each
So balance isn't a goal here, right?
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>>145489940
It's pretty great for reaction images.
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>>145457391
I've done it before. I usually get bored after like 60 though.
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Who's the admin for PointsOfLightFix?

Asphodel has staled 23 times now. Why sin't he set to AI yet?
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>>145492470
>Emperor Point as Asphodel
That explains it. He probably died or something.
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>>145492836

He just came back a turn or two ago. Hopefully to finish me off, because I really want to just die honorably.
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>>145493742
He 'came back' for one turn and immediately started staling again.
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Stall thread
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Post EA Caelum pretenders
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>>145485519
Well, bone-tribes are a great way to break into death with both Corpse construct casters and Hidden in Sand casters. If you already have some of the mages, you already have the temple
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Moggers, gonna finish Breaking Bad and then I'll come back, do my June06 turn and maybe you can convince me to 1v1 you.
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>ten fire elementals in a province

What's a good early-game way to deal with this, if I'm a nation with no W access? Short of just throwing troops at it, I mean. I've got fire weapons so throwing blessed troops at it won't do much.
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>>145484901
>Not liking 26 gold magic weapon berserk 4 sacred indies
>And AD mages
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M I G A R D D O Y O U R T U R N
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Well, I am the OP from, >>>/tg/47777711. Anyone to help me identify and elaborate on differences from Dom3 and 4 would be appreciated.
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>>145506383
The blood economy interest me for instance.
>yes but blood is a lot less powerful
What makes it less powerful? Has it been remodeled?
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>>145506760
Research is slower, so having a good midgame is VASTLY more important. The focus has also shifted slightly away from just throwing SC seraphs at each other from turn 50 onwards.
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>>145508339
>Research is slower, so having a good midgame is VASTLY more important.
Noted.
Will have a look at blood hunting guides to find the optimal number of hunters per province, etc.

>>145508339
>The focus has also shifted slightly away from just throwing "SC's at one another late game".
Interesting. So thugging is less viable, in general, that is?
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>>145468921
Couldn't you give them shapes with bonuses or maluses to certain/all paths?

The only issues I know of are
>transform will cause them to immediately get all paths
>astral mages may be better at magic duel than they should be.

So long as you're not giving them nature magic and you're careful with astral paths it should be workable, right?
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>>145468921
I can totally do that. Advancing an existing path is easy, just give pathboost to the next and future shapes, however you probably worked that out.

To get a new path, first make two different IDs have the next mage, called A and B here. Give the apprentice XPshape to A. Make a rarity 5 event which gives a pathboost of whatever new path you want to A and transform it into a B. Voila, learning new magic was never this easy before.

Also, using req_rare % you can make the apprentices get randoms, and by having a chain longer than AB you can get multiple randoms/new paths.
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>>145421096
I'm getting eliminated in Flatus so I could use a new game.
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>>145509063
We're probably all replying in the tg thread due to vg being slow as balls, but for posterity, yes due to it being much harder to guarantee surviving against a potential infinite amount of mooks, let alone spells.
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>>145510980
>We're probably all replying in the tg thread due to vg being slow as balls
Thank you. I will continue there then.
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I hope Kailasa gets more love one day.
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Shouldn't he have a shield?
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>>145513025
another 4-armed SC...
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>>145513025

From the thumbnail, the second one looks like he's wearing a pirate hat
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>>145513960
I was making them so they're just normal unit summons for both Kailasa and Lanka.
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>>145514045
this

i literally had to open te image to be sure what was it
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What does EA TC want to research if it's fighting Vanheim? Both have doublebless
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>>145520454
Conjurgation for fir eles
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>>145520801
Do you go to conj 5 or just conj 3? Also, what do you do after you get conj 3?
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>>145521313
You just need something that hits AoE and can tank hits.
Evocation works pretty well.
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Ok. This is turn 20 something, so I actually have conj 3, cons 4, and some enchantment done. I was planning on finishing up Flaming Arrows, but was lost on what to do next.

Are there any decent evos that will make my out of cap mages more useful, or should I stick to the D1 dudes and ancestor spam?
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Also, I know that he has T-strike already, and am planning on going one level further up Ench for Thunder Ward and was thinking of using River Demons for evo bait.
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>>145520454
>>145521313
This. T'ien doesn't have reliable battle mages, but they get a shitton of gems. You're going to have to use a lot of them in both battle and in rituals to stay ahead.
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Did summod make Crushers viable? They're 10 E gems.
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>>145524130
Anything is viable with open sites + more gems.
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>>145524130
Oh, and they get 2 attacks.
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>>145524130
They're viable evo bait / lineholders, sure. They still aren't very killy, and earth gems are fairly valuable for boosters & battlefield spells (and big E casters if you don't have them nationally), so you'll really only be summoning them if you have a ton somehow
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My internet problems are being sorted so I can post here again. T'ien Chi, if you want to diplomacise at some point I can now.
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>>145524130
>>145524568
No, not really.
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How good is Wrathful Skies? Will Thunder Fend protect against it?
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>>145527946
Very good against Army of Foo. Not super good against thunder fend
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Play your turns
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>>145531276
remember to pet your stupid dogs
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>>145527946
Concretely, it does 10 (I think?) AN lightning damage to 50% of the units on the battlefield at random. Thunderfend will help, but not negate it.
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Ok, according to the japs it's 5% of the battlefield without storm, 10% with, and 15 AN damage
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Do communions affect magic duel at all?
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>>145531484
Stupid WOLVES
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>>145531665
Yes, it can remove some of the participants when cast by or at them.
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>>145531665
No
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>>145510620
Yeah, I'm aware that it could be done with an arbitrarily long series of unit ids and events. I was looking at doing this for every nation though, which would quickly become unworkable :/
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Ritual of Rebirth
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>be a nation without astral or nature
>find Altetation bonus 20 site
WHAT DO?
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>>145539787
Cheaper wizard towers for your throne rush
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>try to get together a group to take down OP Doom before they get their blood fully operational and steamroll the game
>fucking retarded ally sends him a presumably cocky note about it
>literally ALL my troops except for my mediocre sacreds are ranged
>know that DOOM has blood vengeance and arrow fend on his 44 hp sacreds making attempting to use normal troops retarded and suicidal
>counteroffensive not even halfway ready
>mfw a group of like forty assholes is going to stomp over my 99% ranged armies because one of my allies couldn't resist bragging
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>Giant nation of Hinnom is located on a wasteland

You'd think humanoids that large would need a to be close to a significant source of drinking water to form a civilization at all
Humans that large in that climate would sweat a lot I'd imagine, and they'd need to rehydrate constantly.
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>>145542389
They drink the blood of lesser beings who are capable of living in sparse wasteland
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>>145542357
how is A9 bless a consequence of bragging?
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>>145543848
No, the fact that I'm dealing with his A9 bless right now, before I'm ready to deal with it as a nation with almost entirely ranged troops, is the consequence of bragging.
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>>145539787
I'm not certain on the mechanics of discount sites, does it round down manifest vitriol to 1 gem per cast?

If so, that'd be an amazing use.
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>>145544305
I dont think it works like that. I tried to cast dark knowledge from a conj20 site and the cost of it didnt change.
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I just now found out the game has a general

I see you guys have resources, but I was about to turn in for the night, so I'll ask my question and leave it for when I wake up

Can you improve basic troops? And is preloading commander spells really important?

I know you can give new equipment to Commanders, but do I really have no way to improve on my basic units? I kept expecting something akin to AoE's tech tree for upgrading certain parts of my troops, but even under research have I not found that.

Which, I don't even use research for anything other than magic artifact creation


I've played the game for all of 2 days, having watched a 2 hour tutorial that ended with a guy fighting 2 enemies as the tutorial closer
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>>145546492
>Can you improve basic troops?
Not permanently (other than them gaining levels), but a big part of midgame and especially lategame battles is casting buffs on your units.
>And is preloading commander spells really important?
I'm not sure what you mean by preloading spells. If you mean scripting your mages, it's one of the most important things in the game.

>I know you can give new equipment to Commanders, but do I really have no way to improve on my basic units? I kept expecting something akin to AoE's tech tree for upgrading certain parts of my troops, but even under research have I not found that.
Nope, Dominions has nothing like that. It can be done with modding though.
>>
>>145546492
>>145546732
It'd sure be nice if you could actually improve your troops permanently or give permanent upgrades of some sort to your troops so that a gold economy isn't relegated to 90% shitting out chaff to be buffed by endgame.
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>>145546492
>I know you can give new equipment to Commanders, but do I really have no way to improve on my basic units? I kept expecting something akin to AoE's tech tree for upgrading certain parts of my troops, but even under research have I not found that.
The main way to improve units is by using buffs on them in-combat. The research system is basically the dominions tech tree.

You can also summon units which are (usually) much better than standard recruitable troops.

>Which, I don't even use research for anything other than magic artifact creation
You really should, it's necessary to play any faction to their fullest potential. Even a small amount of combat magic can make a huge difference.

For example, one very commonly used early spell is Flaming Arrows. What it does is make every projectile your troops fire do 2-3x as much damage. All you need to use it is a single F3 mage with a handful of gems. (F2 if you have phoenix power).
>>
I've found the strangest bug where I cannot use the Shift button (or capslock) in Dominions 4 anymore. Also, turning ON the numlock button makes a comma symbol, but turning it off doesn't.

Any idea what it is? My messages look like a 12 year old's right now.
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>>145547713
Does anyone know where I can find the complete dominions 4 tracklist?

Some of the songs were easy enough to find

>Santa Maria, Strela do dia
>Je vivroie liement
>Cantiga 166

But I have no idea where the rest of the tracks are from
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>>145548294
At least some of them are by DrĂ¥m (Anna Rynefors and Erik Ask Upmark): http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/erik-dram?song=1
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>>145548418
Thanks!
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>tfw you try to collude with people but it turns out they're already colluding against you
>>
>>145547176
Check out the Item Units mod, over here: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2921 . It makes troops somewhat more viable by letting you cast construction rituals that allow you to produce troops wielding magic weapons.
>>
LAte Pan?
>>
>>145549546
You probably deserved it
>>
>>145549546
>>145550001
meant to quote you, senpai
>>
>>145550001
Yup.

>>145550009
Undoubtedly.
>>
>>145550362
Expect some more "collisions" then.
>>
>>145550362
I thought we were cool Pan, you told me we were cool.
You lied to me Pan!
>>
>>145550461
They'll just turn out the same way the first one did. :^)

>>145550495
Which one are you?
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>>145550616
Telling people that you're very strong is not a good diplomatic move. Look at Ragha. Look at Malakal in disciples.
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>>145550705
It's a good move if you do it while pretending to be someone you're not. If you pull it off, you can get a rival fucked, and if you don't, there's literally no consequence.
>>
>>145550705
Except I never told anyone I'm very strong.

If anything, this whole gangbang is the result of me being the weakest guy in this part of the map.
>>
>>145550362
Tell me one thing. Are you Pan who spams undertale memes? Depending on your answer I may have to kick your ass.
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>>145550705

Nah I heard CoolStory was doing rounds getting me gang banged even pre game so whatever
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>>145550968
pshhh.... kiddd..... it will be over soon.....
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>>145550705
like ma ulm
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>>145550616
Russia, friend to everyone and all around likable guy.
>>
>>145551063

What can I do, I can't hide my greatness can I? How can scrubs not be awed and tempted to unfairly jump me in droves?

Strongly considering making an alt for domg games from now on.
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>>145551201
You are delusional. There were no pre-game gangbangs planned. Everyone jumped at you when they realized your position. I'd gangbang Van/TC/Oceania with great pleasure, but I can only reach you.
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>>145551104
Well, you're the strongest player on the map as far as I can tell, so you can't really blame me for trying to stop you. Unfortunately Agartha decided it was a good idea to make you even stronger by just handing you my capital, instead of taking the any risks himself, so things didn't work out for me.
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>>145551324
Your genius plan was feeding me to C'tis, who is stronker than I am.
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>>145551556
My genius plan was feeding you to everyone around you.

I can't even reach C'tis without going through you, so that's pretty irrelevant anyway.
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>>145551301

Ye ye, thats why an anonymous friend told me about the gang bang before the game started. I know what I know.
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>>145550968
How could I organize a pre-game gangbang if I didn't even know your bless back then, you double nigger?

>>145551683
"Malakal is a strong player who picked a strong nation" doesn't constitute organizing a gangbang. Your anonymous friend can fuck off.
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>Tfw WW1 Germany esque positioning leaving early game

Being a big turd in the center is the worst border situation.
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>>145551796

Bless doesn't matter for a gang bang, overall I'll just say 'cool story'
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>>145552109
Enough talk. Have at you!
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>>145552159

>"Malakal is a strong player who picked a strong nation"

Truly my greatness knows no bounds, have at thee!
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>Internet has been out for a day at this point
>phone network is barely good enough to post
Help
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>>145546492
Research isn't the sweeping advances of science, it's bs occultist nonsense and as an enlightened gentleman you shouldn't but into it. Its literally put on your robe and wizard hat tier stuff.

You don't need magic or some phony god's blessing, just keep massing Ulm Pikemen.
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>>145552217
>>145552109
>>145552159
>>145551796
all (Me)
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>>145543901
>>145542357
Who's the Rat? snitches get stiches
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>>145551556
>me
>strong
-sssssssenpai
>>
Raise thread!
>>
Forgot to actually SEND the turn file, wish I could say this was the first time I've done this but noooooo.
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>>145557732

Wait for email confirming received turn scrub
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>>145557732
>gloves
that's not the only thing you forgot friend
>>
>>145557870
I meant bullies, a I'm retarded
>>
Did you know:
Ulm is the most powerful race in the universe?
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>>145548294
If you just want the music, you can also just download this, ripped straight from the game:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfr21dsj664d5g9/Dom4_music%282%29.zip
>>
Sparks seem to be flying. Are CALEUM and YOMI really double team gang raping ABBYSSIA?
>>
What's the cheapest way you can give an assassin an edge against D2 mages? Would a Water Bottle do it?
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>>145561832
You're better off not trying to assassinate D2 mages at all.

A water bottle might do it underwater or in cold provinces, but probably not otherwise.
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>>145542357
right, because he wouldnt do that anyway...
>>
Forgetting to un-patrol my army probably doesn't make any difference at all, but still. Rip me.
>>
NEW THREAD WHERE
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>>145561785
I dunno, are they?
>>
make new bread pls
>>
Alright, new bread:

>>145565179
>>145565179
>>145565179
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