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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Previous thread
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I don't wanna try to fight this love.
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You forgot to link the previous thread
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>>145127952
Oops, thought I did. My bad.
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Nice, I also wanted to have DDS in the next OP.

Thread's theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOuxOvYV_CU
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Russia apparently got rangebanned from the site. Not sure how long it will last.
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>>145130284
It's already over.
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This must be the work of an enemy DebiSama!
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What is your favourite SMT game and why?
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>>145131010
If we mean real SMT, Nocturne because I like Press Turn and I don't like handhelds.

If we mean anything, DDS2 because futa.
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>>145131010
The first one for setting, plot and characters.
FINAL for gameplay and fusion.
SH and SJ for dungeon crawling.
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>>145131010
Nocturne. First SMT game I ever had, barring Persona 3 FES. Still have the original PS2 CD with instruction manual. Still have my original PS2 next to me too, from 2002-3ish.
Still works like new. Haven't used it in about a year now, maybe two. Use it several times every couple years.
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>>145131125
Also DeSu 1/OC for characters and plot.
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Who here is Christian? How does that affect how you play SMT?
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>>145131290
>Christian
DEMI FIEND'S ARMS ARE NOT BLUE
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>>145131446
Don't summon anyone
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>>145131290
I don't really care because it's not actually God.

I'm just afraid my family will interpret "Devil Summoner" as something else and send me to a mental facility.
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>>145131290
My first runs are always law
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Wake up
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>>145134770
CAN'T WAKE UP
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SWEET DREAMS!
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Guy who started the series at Megami Tensei, just beat Lucifer and am headed into MT2. Is the normal strat of "Vit/Str for Male Hero, Int/Spd for Female Hero" the preferred way of going about this?
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>>145138821
I think it's applicable for MT1 - SMT2.
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bump?
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>>145131290
I'm a Muslim and a neutfag.
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>>145131950
I don't think they send you to mental asylums for heresy these days.
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>>145131290
My priest said it was OK as long as I realized it was just a game and didn't let it shake my faith, and he said that when I told him about SMT II. Including the final boss. So I don't worry about it.
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>>145144831
Damn son, you should've recorded that shit because that would've been some quality cringe content
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>>145144926
No bullying. Please respect everyone.
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ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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ONE LESS THREAD ARCHIVED
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welcome to my virtual reality
do you like it?
I made it so you could die here
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>>145144831
I'm glad he was so open-minded about it. I feel like Christians shouldn't get triggered by SMT just like with the Golden Compass.
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>>145131290
I'm an atheist and I don't care.
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Oh shit
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I'm really digging this final boss in Raidou
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What's better, smtiv or devil survivor for 3ds?

In terms of overall story, character development, and demons etc
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Killed a failure of a god and beat Raidou. I really want to finish DDS2 next, but I still have to beat the special bosses. Should I beat the game, save in a clear slot, then go back to previous save and beat the extra bosses? Or should I beat the extra bosses then beat the game?
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>>145162285
I'm thinking of playing DDS next too
If I was you I'd take out the special bosses after finishing the game
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How do I beat Mot?
I don't have any electric pokem-- Err- Demons.
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>>145163561
Pic related is DDS2 optional bosses. Spoilered because spoilers.
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>>145164438
Get some digimon with Zio then.
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>>145165058
Do I need to fight Vishnu and Shiva before I can fight Seth? Completely forgot Seth was a boss
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>>145165420
Yes, both
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>>145165458
Time to start grinding, I guess
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Zio
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>>145160952
Overall story
SMT IV 1st Half > DeSu 1/OC > SMT IV 2nd Half > DeSu 2 Septentrione Arc >= FINAL > Triangulum Arc

Character Development
DeSu OC > SMT IV >= DeSu 2 Septentrione > FINAL > Triangulum

Demons (story-wise)
DeSu OC >= FINAL > IV
DeSu 2 might be better or worse depending if you like aliens

Demons (gameplay wise)
FINAL > IV = RB > OC

Fusion
FINAL > IV > RB > OC

Gameplay
RB > OC
FINAL > IV
Depends if you like Press Turn or Extra Turn and Grid

Gameplay Length
RB >>> FINAL > OC >= IV
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>>145169159
>DeSu OC
>Character Development
The characters end the game exactly as they started
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Sarmati sumoning when?
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How does FINAL rank with all the games?
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>>145131290
I accept God and recognize his existence, but that doesn't diminish the hate I feel for it, so I go out of my way to punch God in the face
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>>145164438
Use the Magatama that gives you bolt storm
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>no extra boss in the neutral route

Lul
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>>145131290
>having a religion
You guys should really consider doing the White Ending.
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Does Avenge work on Wu Kong?
He's already immune to Physical so I don't know if it would ever even activate.
Like, How can you counter if you aren't even affected?
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>>145175969
Forgot the pic
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>>145175969
Counterattack skills don't work if you don't actually take damage, no.
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>>145175969
>>145176119
>>145176698

Avenge kicks in against all Physical-type skills, whether they deal Phys damage or not, meaning that it can counter Surt and the late-game Almighty-based boss normals.

With that said, I still don't recommend replacing anything there with it except Brutal Slash
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>>145175521
>tips fedora
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I want Chaos Hero's coat.
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>>145179316
>Not law hero's so you can start your own fight club
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>>145179407
I understood that reference but I haven't seen the movie. Law Hero a shit anyway.
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>>145179316
>wants to a school shooter coat
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>>145178363
>either you tip your fedora or you have a religion
Both are gross.
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>>145179894
Who doesn't?
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Posting this OC for no reason.
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>>145183182
Very epic, thank you.
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>>145183182
>never forget
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sorry forgot pic
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>when they say that, characters in SMT IV is souless but never played a game of the main franchise before
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>dying
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>>145184473
Congrats, you got why it's on the pic.
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>>145131010
MT2 because the pacing, story, and music were to perfection.
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>>145183718
>implying most of those are not true
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>>145187008
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>>145184473
But they played Persona 4.
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>>145183182
>liking SMTIV
Shit taste.
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>>145190138
M-Muh OST
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What are you currently playing, /smtg/? Post your progress.
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>>145195484
Persona 3 Portable. In June.
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>>145195643
How fitting. You should line it up so you play through a day every day.
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>>145195484
Casual scum reporting in
I was playing Nocturne and finally met best girl; she kicked my ass though
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>>145195484
Smt IV. Just beat Tenkai
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>>145195484
Sands of Destruction
Currently in some toxic swamp fighting whats supposed to be the area boss
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>>145195484
i blow whit ktm(mt1/mt2), smt1, smt2, smtIV, last bible, persona 1
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>>145195484
I'm trying to get banned from all the casinos in New Vegas.
Only one more to go.
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>First time playing an SMT game
>Strange Journey
>mfw Commander Gore is bursting with power

Welp, how thoroughly fucked am I now?
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>>145197295
>not being Neutral
You brought this upon yourself, Anon.
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>>145195484
Traumatized, even the same amount as you.

This list really needs an update though.
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>>145197295
It's too late now. You gon get your ass whooped.
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I'm basically at the end of Nocturne, but I haven't met any of the Riders yet
Am I missing something?
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>>145200061
Did you go to the third Kalpa?
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>>145200201
But that place sucks!
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>>145200401
Fine, manchild. Enjoy not meeting the horsemen.
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>>145195484
gotta finish my 3rd and 4th runs of SMTIV, then I'll beat Persona portable before SMTIV:Apocalypse comes out
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>>145195484
I'm replaying Symphony of the night. This game is still beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYwS6481oQk
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>>145202104
Nice to see another Castlevania fan, it's such an underrated series. I recently just finished replaying Aria of Sorrow myself.
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>>145198735
It needs more tiers? Better memes or something?
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>>145200557
Literally looks like someone smeered dirty choco on the walls m8
Makes me nauseous
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>>145200061
fixed, now someone make the actual rom hack
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>>145203975
Those Horsemen better be worth it
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>>145202915
I'll probably start Order of ecclesia after I'm done with SOTN, haven't played that one yet.
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>>145195484
>Multiple copies of the same game in there
Hahah, get the fuck out bitch-ass messiah
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>>145195484
Gave up on trying to kill Lord of the Flies for now because of Dekaja spam on Nocturne, started DDS, 3/4 done with P4G, started P3FES
Will go hunting for any Megaten games on the DS come next week

>>145196020
The Harlot is kind of a bitch but only thing kicking your ass should be Trumpet man
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>>145204192
OoE is pretty good
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>>145207173
He was the easiest for me though
Harlot caught me off guard is all
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>mfw i got raiho,
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ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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Don't die.
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dia
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SMT X ISIS
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>>145216415
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Hoy.
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>>145216415
>censoring armpits
how long before NOA just has all women in burqas
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Hoy
oo
y y
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>>145216415
I can get covering up the big cleavage I guess, but the armpits as well? They're not even erotic unless you're a weirdo.

This is silly. I feel like they should have made it M rated.
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>>145216415
What does this have to do with the gameplay anon?
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>>145216415
Did they also cover up her thighs? I would fap to her thighs, they should do something about it.
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>>145222984
>>145222907
>>145221819
>>145217801
>>145216415
>can't discuss the game
>but censorshitposting is fine
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>>145223483
You can discuss the game. It's not out yet though.
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>>145223653
We can't discuss it without tons of shitposting.

It's been out in Japan for ages.
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>>145223720
To be fair it looks unimpressive through and through. The censorship aspect is probably the most interesting thing about it.
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>>145225081
>To be fair it looks unimpressive through and through
I disagree.

>The censorship aspect is probably the most interesting thing about it.
I can't see how.
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>>145225193
Maybe I just don't get the appeal. what do you like about it?
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>>145225234
I like the gameplay, battle music and what I've seen of the dungeons.
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SMT X Tekken
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>>145226374
Already done, Persona 4 Arena
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>>145227393
He said SMT.
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>>145227446
It says SMT on Persona 4's box. Heck, I think it says SMT on Persona 4 Arena's box.
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>>145227726
>I think it says SMT on Persona 4 Arena's box.
It actually doesn't.
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>>145227393
he said tekken
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>>145227813
I think he means the Persona 4 box.
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>>145227726
No it doesn't.
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>>145228060
Yeah it does, check the US box. They didn't put it on the Japanese version because it being part of SMT is implicit.
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>>145228109
Japs aren't retarded they can understand a game like Persona, Digital Devil Saga and Tokyo Mirage Session are Megatens without it being on the box.
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>>145228271
Exactly.
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>>145215237
Wish i could kill this fucker.
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don't die
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die
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>>145228271
>Tokyo Mirage Sessions
No
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>>145225323
>I like the gameplay
aylmayo
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>>145225323
The gameplay and OST is all mediocre. Literally Press Turn / Extra Turn / One More.
I'll give you the dungeons though
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>>145127660
>http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

BRO.

The Persona 1 mediafire links are broken. Can someone be amazing and put up ones that work, please?
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>>145234220
Give me a Life Stone.
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>>145234653
Here
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What makes smt2 the best game in the series?
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>>145235849
It has Cock, I mean, Hawk in it.
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>>145235849
The best at being the most mediocre. SMT II is true neutral.
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>>145234220
You mean the P1P with the music patch?
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I will not crack
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hello
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I haven't been around here a long time.
Do everyone still love cocks? Is the translation of ...If finished?
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>>145235849
Speaking of Smt2 I download a rom of it earlier today, but haven't gotten around to actually playing it yet. Is there anything special that's not already in the OP?
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>>145241184
Yes.
No and it will never be.
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>>145240687
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>>145241184
No, yes.
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>>145242482
>tfw no Jack Frost merchandise
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About to start SMT 4
What am I in for?
Anything I need to know beforehand?
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>>145246643
RNG.
Go full MAG.
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Hoy.
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>>145246643
Isabeau is cute.
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>>145246643
dont listen to that guy

go full Dex

Charge + Desperate hit every boss

Easy game
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>>145246643
A monkey will follow you around. Be sure to praise YHVH so you can get rid of said monkey.
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>>145251471
She sure is
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>>145246643
Neutral path has the most content, STR sucks, if you want to go physical go for DEX.
Luck and magic builds work too.
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>>145233319
>>Tokyo Mirage Sessions
Yes.

>>145233972
>all mediocre
That's your opinion, It looks fast and fun.
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>>145257785
>STR sucks
Is there any other Megaten where STR sucks (read: isn't the best)?
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>>145243808
You could always make your own.
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>>145261096
I'm not sure which is better in DDS, I only played with a magic Serph.
Magic is better in Persona 2 and 3.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMuCaC4PGg
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So im at the end, and i followed the neutral alignment guide, sadly i must have fucked up somewhere because i ended with the lawful ending. (mustve been a challenge quest)

If i pick "preserve the order" as per the guide i get the law ending jnstead of the neutral i want, but if i pick "destroy the order" i get the chaos ending.

So am i totally fucked? Or is there a way i can fix this? Like is there a chellenge quest i can do to skew things for neutral? Im guessing my alignment is -6 right now. Is there a quest i can do to help me here?
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>>145270415
Have you done those Tokyo Dome quests yet? Those can shift your alignment.
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>>145271675
I don't think i can. my save files are both at the end of the infernal world, right before i fight kenji. I don't think there is a way to do those quests. Unless i can do them in the infernal world

Alternatively, if somone can point me towards a save file editor, or even another save file which i can download and use so i can just see the neutral ending, those would be fine too
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>>145271902
>my save files are both at the end of the infernal world, right before i fight kenji

You fucked up bad.

Shoulda made a save before the fight with Yamato Takeru.
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>>145271991
Yeah i assumed everything was going to be fine since i was following the guide choice by choice. But i think i fucked up by doing a challenge quest i shouldn't and didn't realise until it was too late that it could affect the ending. I can't remember which quest it was too.
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Finally, dude uploaded Anarchy route.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo6ZGCPIWvk
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Hoy.
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>>145273041
this fight must be really hard without ng+
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>>145273041
It's depressing to see that FINAL has 2 endings only.
(Not counting the bad ones)
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>>145276349
Its 1 too many

Game with multiple endings are always shit
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>>145276525
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>>145276525
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>>145279915
Translation?
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>>145275828
It's the only one unfortunately and I'm pretty sure it's easier, if you don't choose best girl. I've played through the game on hard and it really is not challenging at all.
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>>145280279
Does Satan unlock on Peace route? Somehow I couldn't fuse him nor the faction leaders even before fighting YHVH.
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>>145280503
Haven't fused Mercabah and stopped playing the game a while ago.
But I think he does unlock after his boss fight. Merc and Lucy for sure, looks like you didn't have the right demons.
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Alignments themselves are not tired, but what is getting old is framing them as changing the entire world. A game with alignments that apply to a much smaller scale and are more personal like Raidou 2 would feel fresh.
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>>145280634
Disregard my post. Just looked it up.
For Merc and Lucy you need to be on your second playthrough regardless of the route (which is a little bit retarded in my opinion, if you need to have played through it, at least make it their respective routes so that there's at least one good reason to choose them). For Satan you need to have played through one of the Neutrals.
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>>145195484
>tfw you blow
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>>145280781
>more personal
That's contrary to something I feel is integral to the atmosphere of mainline games.
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how is debisama going? Any news on p2p?
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ded general
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>>145286036
hi
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Help me /smtg/. I want to get a few MegaTen related tattoos, aside from the obvious atma brands. Any ideas? Preferably non-characters.
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>>145279963
>I'm the demonic beast "Doormath". Well then, nice to met ya.
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>>145286410
What about a Demi-Fiend like pattern?
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>>145286410
You know you want it.
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>>145195484
Traumatized reporting in. I'm at the part where you have to fight 3 or 4 A-1s in Eternal Punishment and I don't have a proper healing Persona so I'm gonna have to grind for a ridiculous amount of time to tank through it.
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NO DYING ALOUD
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>>145289695
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>>145289695
But we were dying quietly.
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>>145291074
LET ME SLEEP PLEASE
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SMT X Drakengard when
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>>145293842
Is Drakengard any good? What's it like?
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>>145293842
Never.
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>>145294026
The combat is really repetitive but not as bad as a lot of people make it out to be.
It's a really hit or miss game I guess.
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>>145294280
I don't care about the gameplay anon. What are the themes, what's the tone, do characters suffer, etc.
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>>145294486
It's a very moody tone that just gets worse and worse as you progress.
>do characters suffer
Kinda. Just go play it.
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>>145294486
>I don't care about the gameplay anon.
Read a book or watch a movie.
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Why does IMAGINE look like a complete mess?
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>>145296612
It is.
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>>145294674
>actually unironically being a gameplayfag
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>>145298129
This shitty new meme you're trying to push isn't going to catch on
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>>145298129
It's people like you who got rid of first person dungeons
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Release date for Apocalypse fucking when.
And I don't want the placeholder date.
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>>145298129
Why don't you go play some VNs instead?
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>>145298886
September 20
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>>145294486
>What are the themes
Incest, pedophilia, murder, cannibalism, necrophilia, murder.

>>145294674
>[MOVIE]'s strong suit is its story
>not its cinematography
Unacceptable.
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>>145294486
>do characters suffer
Every single ending (except for the true ending) is a bad ending
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>>145298950
>And I don't want the placeholder date.
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>>145298974
The true ending is also a bad ending. It's directly responsible for NIER.
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>>145298974
>except for the true ending
I'm assuming you mean ending E. That's a bad ending too.
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don't die
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Do you guys think they might talk about IV Final at E3? It's been boring as shit so far, fucking EA go away please.
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>>145298668
I'll deal with this one because it's an actual criticism. While I feel that gameplay in a JRPG is largely a secondary element, and that first person dungeons aren't even as important a gameplay element for SMT as battle system, demon negotiations, or making sure the dungeons are a challenge whatever perspective you take in them, I've also argued that even secondary elements can be important to the overall experience. It's not because of me that you're not getting Strange Journey 2: With Press Turn This Time. It's because of a view of certain gameplay styles, including the relatively rudimentary first-person dungeon crawling of classic Megaten, as "archaic" or "irrelevant" at many developers, including Atlus.

As for others:
>>145298632
>>145298940
Yeah, THIS is you guys.
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>>145301750
>certain gameplay styles, including the relatively rudimentary first-person dungeon crawling of classic Megaten, as "archaic" or "irrelevant"
___________________________________________________________________________________________git gud_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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>>145301750
>While I feel that gameplay in a JRPG is largely a secondary element
Then watch the cutscenes, dude. Seriously gameplay should be the most important thing in a game because you're wasting hours on it.

> It's not because of me that you're not getting Strange Journey 2: With Press Turn This Time. It's because of a view of certain gameplay styles, including the relatively rudimentary first-person dungeon crawling of classic Megaten, as "archaic" or "irrelevant" at many developers, including Atlus.
Do you know how entertainment industry works? Developers look at what earns them the most money. "Gamers" nowadays are busy people who don't want to play the same game for a long time, they don't want challenge because that would take longer and makes them feel less powerful etc. Developers respond to that accordingly.
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Would it be possible to do a fitness run of Soul Hackers using only demons bought through Nemechi with play coins? No streetpasses or hacks allowed, unless hard mode is possible (is it?).
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>>145298964
Where was there necrophilia?
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>>145302325
Just found out you can only earn 10 coins a day. What the fuck Nintendo.
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How is Soul Hackers compared to mainline?
Is If... even good?
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>>145302325
You could probably solo Soul Hackers, so yes
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>>145302983
Does the difficulty up hack make it substantially more challenging? I mean on par KMT/Nocturne/SJ.
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>>145298886
Get it off amazon.jp right now.
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>>145302721
Just change your date whenever you hit the 10 coin limit :^)
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>>145301523
It's only for EA and Bethesda, why would you care for those?
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>>145302894
According to the two people who played if..., it's not very good.
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>>145304045
Nothing better to do I guess.
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>>145304152
It's pretty much I and II in terms of dungeon crawling. The only really shitty thing is World of Sloth. The rest is still good.
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>>145271902
Bump
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>>145304152
>it's not very good.
Lovin this meme
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>>145302552
Ending A.

Broken and unstable, Inuart takes Furiae's corpse and flies from the sky fortress, the legend of the seeds of resurrection in his mind. Inuart takes Furiae's corpse to the Bone Casket; a special Seed of Resurrection. There he enters the bone casket himself with his betrothed's corpse "for love and greed".

Thus Nowe.
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>>145305231
But can you disprove it?
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Ever try to recreate MegaTen characters in games with CaC?
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>>145306093
Yeah it has some okay dungeons and a good variety of demons, good music and a solid battle system, however it's too short and the fusion system is somewhat lacking, plus the sword fusion is almost pointless
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>>145305231
Based on what they said/their opinions on the game (I remember one saying not to bother playing it), which was why I said It wasn't very good. If it's like what >>145304443 said, then I retract my previous statement and will play it soon. Or stream it
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>>145306232
The heck is CaC
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>>145306614
Create a character.
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>>145305796
oh, that seemed more like a fusion to me then fucking a corpse. I guess than makes sense.
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>>145301523
They'll probably drop the release date
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>>145306979
I dunno, it seems kind of small scale for E3. Announcing the release date of a 3DS game that's already been out in Japan for months? I would think they have bigger fish to fry.
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>>145307663
E3 is mostly just a dumping of info for retailers and publishers, the conferences are a small part of it. It'd just be part of a press release.
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>>145308065
Oh right.
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is Shin Megami Tensei that game where you get fucked over ridiculously arbitrary choices or am I thinking of something else
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>>145311093
No that's Mass Effect.
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>>145311093
Sounds like actual visual novels.

Or do you mean the handshake?
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>>145310928
she's making harder for herself to turn men into stone by not covering her bazongas
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>>145311093
I do not comprehend.
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Calm death
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>>145316119
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Hoy.
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Hoy.
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What's a good area to level in Nocturne before the point of no return for the TDE?
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>>145321712
The last dungeon's top floors.
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>>145321810

But if I go into the ToK before I complete the Fifth Kalpa, then I'm locked out of the TDE. Are there good places outside of that?
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>>145321712
Labyrinth of Amala's fifth kalpa.

Bring attract bells.
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>>145322000

Thanks senpai.
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>>145271902
Bump
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Hello /smtg/, I am the guy who voiced Cerberus in the Tokyo Revelations OVA.

Ask me anything.
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>>145324051
not this again
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>>145324051
that shit was gay lmao
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Kazing
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>>145326414
Get back here, you little shit
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Hoy.
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Hoy
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Wake up it's 4 am
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>>145330437
But it's almost midday, Abel.
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>>145330437
It's 9 p.m. you shit.
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Hoy.
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>>145324051
You really think someone would just go on DDSNET and tell lies?
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>>145333607
Loki did.
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SUCH IS A SAMOORAI SKILL
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I'LL END IT THUS.
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I miss playing SMT games on the PS2. Now I'm older and more jaded. I wanna go back to those days.
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>>145335235
Ok
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MOST UNLUCKY FOR YOU
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We gotta merge with Persona general
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>>145340115
They're two radically different series at this point, though.
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>>145340115
I'd rather not having a general.
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>>145340453
Not really. Merging is retarded though because /pg/ where we keep our waifufags cointained in.
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>>145340497
this desu. I like SMT discussion when it crops up here, but this general's on life support 9 times of the day/10

the only good things about this general are:
>the op post
>the average poster being better informed
>keeping /v/ out
>easily checking one place for SMT discussion; My tab will say if there was a post here, whereas I'd need to check /v/ every now and again for discussion otherwise
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>>145340813
We need raidou guy back, he will save /smtg/
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This is a good look for Baofu.
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>>145195484
Persona 3 portable was the only one I've finished. I'm currently in the middle of:
SMT1, SMT2, SMT3, P3 the answer, Strange journey and DDS.
But DDS had a sudden difficulty spike, because I have no idea what mantras I should get or how the game works or why hunt skills are so shitty. I'm not planning on finishing that one.
Also where the hell are horkos and the elve now? I covered the entire map and they aren't there.
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>>145345525
Hope you don't plan on Strange journeying long if you hate difficulty curves
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>>145344795
No it's not! It's really not!
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>>145202104
Im playing symphony of the night for the first time and wow, the games great, but way too confusing and mazelike sometimes, especially when I have to break a random ceiling to get an item that you practically need.
>>145202915
Is Aria of sorrow worth finishing, I've only been playing it for a few hours and though I like the soul system, I have to ask, is it based on your luck stat whether an enemy drops their soul or not?
I'm just trying to farm good items and souls, I have enough money to buy three sets of the best armour and weapons, not that I need it, because an enemy dropped a weapon that does double what the best one in the shop does.
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>>145345495
Why is Walter upside-down?
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>>145346554
Because Chaos is evil
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With the referendum coming up, it's time to vote anons.
Should persona stay SMT or leave permanently as it's own thing?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10472094
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>>145346865
Do oldfag votes count more? Because I want it to stay.
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>>145349571
Vol 2 when
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>>145350416
Once you die.
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>>145301750
>secondary
I don't frankly give a shit if the game is 1st person or 3rd. What matters is the gameplay that is system solving and decision making
If these "archaic" or "irrelevant" styles of games have interesting game in them I'll play them.
Also I don't think you can have interesting gameplay of this style if you stray too far from the formula.
If you introduce timing elements which make most people not even try to learn the game and they resort to grinding (Most Final Fantasy games).
If you minimize the amount of gameplay then you have a visual novel, not a game.
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Hoy.
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I'm paying DS1. What are the best demons I can fuse and create?
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>>145346554
It's because he's actually australian.
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hoy
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Welcome back.
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Don't die.
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>>145346865
The fuck is wrong with you guys? Are the people voting for Persona discussion to leave ones who haven't played P1 and P2?
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>>145346865
P1 and the P2 games can stay.
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>>145363678
>>145363765
no kys

they are persona
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>>145363831
Yeah but discussion of them doesn't invite undesirable types like the other games tend to. They also don't get discussed ever in the 80 other places that only talk about P3 and beyond with the occasional Nocturne and IV sprinkled in.
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>>145363959
People using the term "undesirable types" unironically are the ones that should leave to be honest.
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>>145366043
>Wanting waifufags to come back
Nothing wrong with liking P3 or P4, but the fanbase these games have gathered tends to be pretty bad. Call me elitist or whatever but if you invite discussion of that in waifufags will inevitably follow and feel at home.
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>>145366202
Waifufags have always been here.
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>>145366245
Sorry, should I say vocal waifufags who post the same thing every thread ad nauseum to get my point across? Whatever waifufags we've got here, they're relatively tame.
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>>145366368
We had the Mirai anon spamming that shit every single thread.
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>>145366434
And he's not spamming anymore, so what's your point?
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>>145366542
And I don't see people who wanted to discuss the persona games shitting up this thread, what's yours?
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>>145346865
Persona is just like VN versions of SMT
Shouldn't they avtually be in /vng/?
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>>145366984
Good job never playing p1 and 2 and being just as bad as the waifufaggots you make fun of
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>>145367086
Nah, he's good because he's a waifufaggot on the right side of the argument :^)
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>>145366825
> if you invite discussion of that in waifufags will inevitably follow and feel at home
That is.
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>>145367206
Was this supposed to be a complete thought?
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>>145367086
I don't really get the point of the poll anyways, since I just got home

You losers trying to get back together with /pg/ now that both threads are bleeding dry?

Is it only P1 and P2 that are in question?

I don't care if it's only P1 and P2, but whenever they're brought up something like >>145367206 happens and other persona fags will start posting more persona.
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>>145367314
What about it is incomplete?
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>>145367206
Nice slippery slope there.
I say we just let the thread be as it's always been and allow discussion of all megaten games.
>>145367394
Nah, someone just got mad that everyone didn't instantly sperg out when we were discussing Persona Q.
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>tfw MegaTen closes up on japan

Then it's official? No more MMOs from ATLUS?
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>>145367394
I wasn't even aware of what the discussion was, I just wanted to point out how ignorant you were.
Even then, only p4 could be considered almost a visual novel due to how much dialogue it has, but p3fes has a fairly good amount of gameplay that, while dumbed down compared to mainline, is still pretty fun, especially in hard mode.
Not that you would know since you never played those games out of a false sense of superiority and all your knowledge from them obviously comes from pg or persona threads, which barely ever discuss anything gameplay-related giving you the impression that they were just about the shitty waifus
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>>145367461
Slippery slopes aren't always untrue, and your argument is a fallacy in its own right. If you want to discuss P1 or P2 that's fine, you get drowned out in other places. PQ even to an extent since nothing else is worth talking about besides gameplay. If I want to talk about say P4 though, there are a million other places to go.

>>145367585
MMOs are a dead genre. Sometimes you gotta let go.
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What's up you candy-assed faggots
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>>145368049
My blood pressure.
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>>145367585
Didn't Atlus register new website names? Maybe they'll try another Megaten MMO in the future with updated graphics. I never got to play IMAGINE, but if that's the case I guess you'd have to worry about the game being made to the same standards modern MMOs are instead.
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>>145169159
>FINAL > OC >= IV
Is Final really longer than IV when you don't actually have to replay the game to get all the endings?
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>>145369683
I don't know what >>145169159 smoked but that's complete bullshit.
IV is way longer than Final. Just compare the challenge quests.
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>>145297478
It was. Though i spent 6 years of my life playing that shit
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>>145370904
Anything else there about Final bullshit?
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>>145346865
I want them to stay.
C H A O S
H
A
O
S
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>>145371017
Gameplay is worse than IV in my opinion because of the partner system which is completely OP and what they did with Hama/Mudo skills, I'm convinced that I'm forgetting a lot of stuff. Navarre's wall crap is pretty annoying too (the black stars are cool though).
I mean sure they did make quite a few quality improvements, I really love demon affinities, and most of the smirk changes but compared to the other game breaking/casualizing changes, it's not much. (The new Tokyo map is ugly as fuck too but I'm sure most of you will like it because the majority of you got lost in IV for whatever reason)

I'd also say that the story is even worse than Triangulum since there I already knew that it was going to be shit (considering DeSu2) whereas I had high expectations for IVF as a mainline game and with the concept of the Polytheistic Alliance.

But this stuff boils down to opinion. If you like it easy as fuck, you'll love most of IVF and from what I've read here, everyone except a few seemed to love the gameplay at least.
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>>145372225
I liked IV's map a lot so that sucks. Same with the casualization. I already knew about the wasted potential with the Polytheists. Thanks for sharing, anon.
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>>145371596
I think only ones who want them gone are lawfags.
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>>145127660
What emulators on phone/android let me play smt I&II snes games without fucking graphics and text every time?
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>>145374461
I use Provenance for smt ll. The graphics and text are fine, but sometimes the audio gets a bit funky.
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don't die
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>>145374461
Fuck. Now I'm hungry from looking at your pic.
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FINAL bump
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>>145350416
SOON.
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>>145377735
Playing DDS always makes me feel like going to a coffee shop.
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>>145347232
>>145363678
>>145363765
>>145366984
>>145371596
The results are in!
Leave is in the lead with 3 more votes than Stay, but the poll isn't over, it's not too late to vote!
http://www.strawpoll.me/10472094
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>>145346865
If Persona leaves, so do Devil Survivor, Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner, and anything that doesn't have "Shin Megami Tensei" in the Japanese title.
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>>145380525
>Devil Summoner
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>>145380525
But persona has "Shin Megami Tensei" in the title
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>>145380525
That's only if your reasoning is that the games aren't SMT. Also Devil Summoner has SMT in the title.
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>>145380991
Exactly. Persona belongs here, deal with it.
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>>145380367
What a stupid poll.
You don't even mention that it is for /smtg/ and only 23 out of the possible 80 or 90 persons who frequent here answered it.

IT'S TRASH.
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I saved this image on May 9, 2013.
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>>145382147
And it became real.

Such is the power of meme magic.
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>>145131010
Megaten: Innocent Sin

SMT proper: SJ followed by Nocturne
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>>145351017
But im dead already, like the general.
>>145378614
they said that to the end of the year
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>>145382001
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>>145385039
This is a dumb campaign.

Especially when you consider that this is one of the few places where you can talk about P1/2. And that the big Persona discussions for 3/4/5 are held on /pg/ and /v/ anyways.
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>>145386419
i want to punch maki in the cunt
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>>145382147
>>145383036
poor spess muhreen he was left behind and replaced by fuurin
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>>145386419
4+1
what a sausagefest
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>>145384620
Learn the language. :^)
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>>145388195
That's wrong. Take a closer look to >>145383036
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>>145389872
Accurate.
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I've only beaten SMT4. What should I play next?

I've got about 20 hours in Persona 4: Golden, but I'm not sure if I really enjoy it.

I own Persona 3: FES, but it's a shitty PAL copy.

I also own Soul Hackers and DeSu:OC.

Should I play any of them, emulate 1/2, or buy one of the PS2 games I haven't played yet?
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>>145393414
Nocturne is nice. DDS is nice. Soul Hackers is nice but a bit antiquated. DeSu OC is nice but hardly traditional.
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>>145393414
Play P4 a bit more, if you still aren't feeling it just drop it.
Soul Hackers is pretty cool. All the PS2 games are great too.
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>>145393492
I've heard SH is a bit dated, but I enjoyed Persona 1 from what I played of it. They similar levels of classic or is one noticeably more dated?

>>145393598
P4 is kinda hard to get back into after a long break, but I'll give it a few more tries.
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That's right, you just leave the rest to me
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>>145396267
Okay, I will.
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>>145380367
Good, now we can concentrate discussing how I'm gonna marry Fumi.
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>>145399525
No, let's discuss about whether Yamato was shit or not.
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