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Zeriyah Edition, post more Zeriyah

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://TempoStorm.com
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/
https://manacrystals.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

>Hafu Nudes:
https://imgur.com/a/C2JQO

>Zeriyah Nudes:
http://imgur.com/MLkurmK

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>Baron effect 2 damage everything on the field, 0 health on several minions, including the healing totem

>After that, Healing Totem still not dead somehow, gives +1 health to all the minions, including those at 0 health

>Nothing dies

Wtf??

Who made this shit code?
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Post your favourite hearthstone meme
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I've got a lot of dust, ever since the new patch. Which legend I can craft?

I've: Cenarius, Rhonin, Van Cleef, Velen, Paletress, Volazj, Hallazel, Neptulon, Winfred, Cho'Gall, Huhuran for class legends

Also Ragnaros, Sylvanas, Nozdormu, Cairne, Dr. Boom, Sneed, Baron Geddon, Ysera, Thalnos, N'Zoth, Soggoth, Twins, Hogger, Kragg and all adventure legends.
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Can you play Hearthstone on a windows 10 phone?
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>Start playing the first time this season at Rank 17.
>Everyone has the Overwatch cardback.

Are these people done with Overwatch already?
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>>145050909
Tirion if you want to play N'Zoth Paladin.
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>>145051398
That's normally one of the prioritary choices, the thing is that I don't really like playing paladin or chaman.

I usually play memes, like Pirate decks or Reno N'Zoth Rogue.

So I hesitate between Yogg or Xaril.
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place your FUCKIN bets
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>>145051750
It's cute cute princess Huhuran
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>>145051750
the feast of souls begins now
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>>145052198
nope, it's "not as shitty but still not that great" mukla
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>>145052434
If he costed 5 cristals, he would be pretty good
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>>145052840
if he was 5 he would be great and a solid pick, but that won't ever happen. thanks blizz.
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>>145052961

At 5 mana he might be too broken in certain decks. Especially when you get to curve Mukla into Thaurissan. Taking up the Thaurrisan slot is important.
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>>145052434
he is fucking op in priest, but you laso need eydis and fjola
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>>145054389

>eydis and fjola

No one uses those strictly better spider tanks.
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>>145054572
rank 5 and above is 2% of eu playerbase
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>>145052434
Oh cool, 400 dust
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Are the US servers shitting themselves?
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>>145051750
Cho'gall
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>be paladin in arena
>against rogue
>rogue plays coin+pint sized summoner turn 1
>play minibot
>rogue plays 6/6 blood knight and plays perfectly on curve the rest of the game and has earthen farseer/voodoo doctor to keep BK alive and trade with whatever i play
how do you beat this?
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>>145056251
le fire man of equality
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>>145056251
Aldor. Humility. Uldaman.
A paladin complaining about unfairness in arena is laughable.
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>>145021904
Main reason I run infested taurens is because N'zoth brings them back. So they give you taunt on your N'zoth turn, while argus doesn't let you do that.
>>145015021
It's an HDD, I used to have an SSD, but it was like 90GB
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i need to spectate a friend for quest
add me Maskoe #2533
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>>145049926
Both things happen on the same phase in order of played
>Play healing totem first
Heals nothing, Baron kills it
>Play Baron first
>Baron drops everything by 2hp, healing heals after
the reason it hasn't died and then heals is because they both trigger at the end of turn.
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>>145056384
>Humility
Why would anyone draft non cards in arena?
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>>145057114
I dont understand, what do you mean? Isn't humility a 1 mana spell?
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>>145056384
>>145057114
git gud
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>boy these 3-drops nzoth paladin curves into after doomsayer are garbage
>what's a good 3-drop for an empty board turn 3?
>every 3-drop is absolute garbage
>wait
>blackwing tech is a 3/5 on 3
>by the holy light

Is N'Zoth Dragon Paladin viable? Am I onto something? I'm sure Kibler has already played some Dragon paladin but it's not like I've heard of any rank 1 legend hits with it.

I was already going to hit golden pally (85 wins) this season with N'Zoth. Should I just meme with dragons and try it for myself? Can't be that much worse.
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>just had someone concede after I turn 6 entombed their sylvanas

I need to play priest more.
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>a recent opponent would like to be your friend

Do you ever accept? I know it's just going to be a 10 year old spewing butthurt.
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>>145058489

Never have never will. There was one game that was actually a very good game and I thought there was no way he could possibly be a dick after, and he did just want to say gg. But outside of that one time I'm certain every single one was a butthurt turd.
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>>145057720
>he plays Sylvanas
>Thank him and then Entomb it on my turn
>he plays Tirion
>don't have the second Entomb but thank him anyway
>concedes
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>>145058489
I accept every time, never had any problems with them, neither with my spectate quest
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>>145058489
They are usually nice people actually.
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>>145058489
i just need to spectate you for the quest m8
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>>145049926

>priest will never get a healing totem spell because of archenai arcane explosions, northshire draws, and so people dont notice the weird auto stack shenanigans

Way to neuter your class blizz
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>all these idiots falling for the Warrior is good in Arena meme
Thanks for the free wins, I guess.
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>>145058489
>Play priest
>Lose against miracle rogue
>get friend request
>Thinking maybe he wants to spectate for a quest or something
>Get Russian copypasta about how I suck
Never again senpai
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I just beat a concede mage because he put off playing Reno for one more turn so surprise Rag + fatigue killed him
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>>145058761
I entombed his C'thun, then his Tirion, then double Twilight Darkmender from 3 life. He was emote spamming before so I made sure to drop a few wow's. Pretty sure he was miffed.
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>>145058917
You can thank Kripp for that
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>>145058917

>best players taking warrior to top tier wins
>shitters in /hsg/ think it's a meme

Yet another magical coincidence!
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Is there a better streamer out there than Neviilz? This guy is literally the most energetic person I've ever seen.
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Rate my Deck.
Not seen Sludge Belcher,Piloted Sky Golem,2 Savannah Highmane, North Sea Kraken.
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>>145059247
fuck off Neviilz
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>>145059054
The actual best players can take almost any class to the top.
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D-does it notify other people when I buy packs? I added a handful of people for when the spectator quest pops up but I don't want them to know...
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>>145059483
They'll know if you open back to back legandaries
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>>145059483
It even tells them how you did in arena. Remove friends.
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So what the fuck are you supposed to do when you don't draw your sick worms with "tempo" mage? Lose?
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fucking annoying little twerp, waste of oxygen and streamer value
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>>145059935
win with apprentices and wankers
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>>145059993
Are you supposed to just do nothing until you can play a wanker + a spell? This deck seems shit.
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>>145059247
fucking autistic adhd kid
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>>145059935
win anyway because you're not a pleb that runs the minion heavy version and cant fight back for board
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>huckster a flamewaker
happens more often than I figured
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>>145060093
The spell version will never get board to begin with. Mage is super bad this expansion.
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>>145059251
enjoy your 0-3

>4 2/1 1 drops
>2 2drops, one of them mad bomber
nicest synergy
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>>145060085
no you retard
it's a tempo deck which means you play for tempo which means you play a naked flamewaker and even coin it out t2 without so much as a second thought
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>>145049794
her Vancleef is better
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Yay a legendairy
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>>145060340
>This is Ahn'Qiraj scrub
>Yeah, beat it!
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>>145060340
>>145060437
Is this even good?
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>call of the wild still in the game
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>>145059251

Pretty filthy. Holy shit. Shame about Gorillabot and literally no mechs lel
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Explain these arena stats to me

rogue +9 wins
warrior +7 wins
warlock 5 wins
mage 3 wins
paladin 2 wins

why the fuck it turns out im only good at rogue and warrior when it comes to arena?
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>>145061781
Nice sample size.
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>you have already earned 100 gold
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>>145061829
its how many wins i average for each class since old gods came out, >150 arena games played
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>>145058489
if you play as any class other than priest, you can add enjoy your new friend. if you were priest then he probably has nothing nice to say. fuck you priest
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>>145059247
i like him. but i dont know how he does it every night
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>>145061831
i mean why would people buy packs if you could earn infinte gold???
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>>145058489
>tfw only got friend invite once
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>>145062549
you think he's high on stream?
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>>145061903
You averaged 2 wins as paladin in, let's say, 15-20 games?
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>get Shaman quest
>don't wanna play cancer
>don't want to see a single game of this fucking trash brawl anymore
I should just reroll...
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>>145062629
5 runs to be exact
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>>145062719
play control shaman or reno shaman and have fun you idiot
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>>145062735
How dont understand how such a thing can be possible.
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>>145062894
i remember most of the decks were mostly trash but had one with 2 truesilvers that ended up with 4 wins, kek idk im just bad at arena paladin
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>>145060545
meme druid can use that
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> Play -any warrior-
> don't get axe on opening hand
>"well, I'll concede I guess"

I want 2 more win axes
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>>145061831
I used to get 100daily gold but ever since I decided to buy the expansion this time around I barely play 3 games a day, maybe the grinding for cards was the only good thing about this game rip
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Any good reno lock without the lord?
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>>145063356
I miss death's bite too ;_;
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>>145063516
Just play tentacles for arms :^^^^^^^)
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>>145063619
I actually like it, my deep autism for high value cards and control warrior made me not dust the golden copy of it I got in hopes of playing it someday.
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are there still bots grinding for gold?
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>>145063852
Of course not anon. They all dissapeared at the same time.
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>vs cthun warrior
almost had fun there for a second
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>>145064110

>aggro shitters believe curving aggro shit to face is somehow less boring
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>>145064267
>if i don't like playing vs tank up tacticians i must be an aggro shitter
wew lad
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Hi /hsg/
Just wondering (as a gamedev). What other TCG's or card games similar to Hearthstone have you played since or before Hearthstone?
Any particular elements or mechanics you miss? Hearthstone is obviously a complete game and adding in another mechanic just randomly wouldn't exactly make it better. But just in theory.
http://poal.me/wrzmii (note that you can add choices)
I'm really curious.
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>>145064543
charge was a mistake
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>>145064543
Does Etherlords count
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>>145064642
Noted. While i don't think it's that black and white it's definitively having a major impact on the game.
>>145064687
>Etherlords
Never heard of it. Do you collect cards in some manner and construct a set of them based on synergistic properties?
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>>145064543
>(as a gamedev)
kek
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I won a game just now and it was really fun and things but I don't have any friends to tell my story to. I feel like this game isn't for me.
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>>145064820
It's kinda like king's bounty, in the campaign you unlock cards through encounters, but in multiplayer you have all cards available
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>>145064879
Listening to feedback in the right way is probably the most important skill you can have. /v/ or /vg/ isn't as out there as I think the people here think.
>>145064959
Ok, haven't played Kings bounty (the modern one). I might check those two out. They do seem a bit interesting but they don't seem all that relevant.
>>145064882
Extremely observant anon. Yes, that's exactly what hearthstone is about.
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>>145063619
at least there is a maximum meme combo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq0ZYr6cypo
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>>145064687
>Etherlords
Does the studio still exist? I want more
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>>145063356

>Fire up Dragon Warrior
>Don't draw fun win axe
>Wreck shit with back to back Alexstrasza's Champions instead

Feels gud

Wouldn't mind a new weapon that wasn't octo-hands though.
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Whadda bess deck and why is it midrange hunter?
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>go 0-2
>win 7 in a row
Why does this ALWAYS happen?
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>>145065598
It doesnt ALWAYS happen.
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Where is the best place to get netdecks? Hearthpwn is full of retarded children apparently.
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>>145065717
google
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>>145065598
>go 7-0
>finish as 7-3
why does this always happen
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>>145065717
Tempo ' crazed alchemist' storm(TM)
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>>145065813
>11-1
>11-2
>sweatingman.jiff
>12-2

Best kind of feel. Shit rewards though.
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>Try to do a draft by myself
>Get scared
Who /heartharena/ here?
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>>145065939
Good tool but after a while you dont need it.
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>>145065939
dont want to install their botnet and too lazy to input all cards all the fucking time
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>>145065983
I went 0-3 last time I didn't use it.
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>>145066089
Learn to draft better.

Or just draft all 1-4 drops.
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>>145066089
Your anedoctal evidence sure showed us.
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for fucks sake
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>>145066176
The dream fucked you back.
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>Play arena
>First game
>Shaman with at least 3 477

Why the fuck is this shit common?
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>>145066176
he's at least 20% higher chance than all the other 7 drops fuck that guy
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>>145066246
6 mana 5/5 +3 drop is the bane of my existence
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Post your most autistic Kripp videos here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2RGbbxk4U&ab_channel=Kripparrian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHfmSbH6854&ab_channel=Kripparrian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGWWdUQGQ2w&ab_channel=Kripparrian
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>>145066176
Acidmaw is worse than fucking Magma Rager god dammit, i get him ALL THE FUCKING TIME from Ram Wrangler
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>>145066301
When you use him
>Alarm o Bot with no big minion in hand, magma rager if they're mage.
When your opponent use him
>Brann, injured Blademaster, arcane Golem
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>its another miracle rogue gets auctineer coins and conceals out the ass by turn 6 episode
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What deck should I play to get as many people as I can to add me as a friend?
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>>145065939
It's not that good. You miss out on the things that separate an 8-win deck from a 12-win deck.
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Post a deck for me to play
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>>145064543
I've played a lot of MTG and Yu-Gi-Oh, i've also played a game by a /v/ anon called "Forgotten Lore" and it's pretty fun :)

>>145066516
>It's another 477 episode

>>145066530
Play Yogg Mage if you want friends, Yogg makes the game fun for both players no matter who wins
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>>145066516
>it's another le balanced creature removal tool for 2 mana episode
>heh, greetings
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Guys, I need a quick answer, please. Do Dragon warriors run brawl?
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>double pyroblast from cabalist in arena during topdecking
outskilled
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>>145066645
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>>145066176
>aggro with evolve
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Is there a way to hide your rank but still play ranked? I can't handle losing ranks.
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>>145067084
its arena you retard
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WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZ?
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>>145067140
well sorry
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>Using the deck tracker
How fucking tryhard do you have to be?
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>>145067531
why do you think "tryhard" is a good insult? why ridicule someone for trying the hardest?
"well that guy beat me but I see he put alot of effort into it so I'm gonna claim the moral victory"
work on your insults
t. non-decktracker
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>>145058489
>add someone out of sheer asspain after my poorfag all-basics deck gets shit on by a fully gold deck with half a dozen legos in casual
>cant even be bothered to shit at them
>pretty sure i still have them on my friends list but i cant be fucked to remove them by this point
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>>145067603
Because we're playing a children's card game, my man.
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Is Dragon Priest any good right now?

Do you need a bunch of non-Blackrock legendaries for it to work?
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>>145067158
get meme'd on son
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Kibler is the best HS content provider desu
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>>145067673
>Is [...] Priest any good right now?
No.
The best version is probably when you substitute some shit with shades and put in an N'Zoth for massive late game power and shades themselves are pretty good too
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POST YOUR HUNTER DECKS
Fuck off if you use traps, faggot bitch.
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guys should I craft 2x Call of the Wild i want to play Midrange
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>>145067931
Midrange is literally the best deck to play right now. You figure it out.
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>>145067792
Cut freezing for N'zoth a 2 drop or a 5 drop
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>>145067931
Hunter without Skill of the wild is not worth to play
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>>145067952
>>145068046
Thanks buddies I just made them.
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>>145068017
Freezing trap, flame juggler, ram wrangler are all bad picks. Two HOUNDZ is bad. Needs two elekks.
6/10
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>>145067684
kibler is a fag, reynad is basically the only entertaining streamer but kripp does some semi-decent vids and trump is not as big a fag as he seems at first glance
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Watching streamers is VERY gay.
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>>145068263
not him but I should beat your fucking face in for shit talking Kibler.
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>>145068307
thats why i only watch girl streamers
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>>145068360
give me 1 reason why he isnt a fag
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>>145068428
G-g-girls?
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>>145049794
NO HIPS
O

H
I
P
S
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>>145068430
He's married to a hot grl and his pupper is adorable.
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>>145068627
so you're a cuck cool
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>>145059247
he's alright, he makes interesting decks and is actually a pretty decent player. he's too loud for me too watch without turning the volume down or just muting the shit.

no idea how he can be that high energy for 8 hours a day, every day.
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>>145068658
Haha, nice!!!!
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>>145068987
coke
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>>145068263
kripp is a decent chill stream in my opinion, especially with all the autism in chat.
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What the FUCK (fuck) is Leokk supposed to be? A Fagboy Nigger?
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>>145069341
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Wyvern
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Did all the Hunters stop playing traps?
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>>145069509
I teched an explosive trap in to atleast regain my board against zoo when I play N'zoth Hunter.
I still play bear trap in my midrange hunter.
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>>145069509
Freezing Trap is still pretty fukkin epic in Midrange Hunter.
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I can't believe you can't turn off the huge, obnoxious speech bubbles.
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>Freeze mage emotes "well played" like I didn't know he fucking had ice block
Why do you think I hit you to 1 hp first? Do these cucks think they're playing on a whole new level?
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>Lost more with midrange hunter than with zoo but enjoy hunter more
Guess I'm not getting to 5 this season. It's literally impossible with hunter.
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>>145070067
Just go face.
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>>145070067
dont use words you dont know the meaning of
it is quite l i t e r a l l y possible to hit legend with midrange hunter
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>See a ton of paladins lately
Oh gee I wonder what happened. Nevermind, I know. Some meme streamer played a paladin deck. God I hate this retarded playerbase.
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>>145070000
Yes. Freeze mages are clinically retarded.
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>Priest entombs my highmane
>Shifting Shade gives another highmane

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEOuLV0GVLU

Can someone explain this shit to me? Why is she bawling her eyes out? It can't just be >muh patriotism
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>>145070318
She's playing Priest
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>>145070000
>people still play Freeze Mage in a meta teeming with Warrior and Aggro Shaman
autism in its purest form.

quads check'd
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>its yet another their yogg somehow doesnt kill them episode
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How long should you hover over someone to make the point that you're squelching them?
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Is Alex able to comfortably sit in any control and reno decks? I am heavily considering crafting her but if she only sits in frost mage i can hold off and make harrison or something.
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>>145070527
>Shaman casts yogg in fatigue
>Doesn't draw any cards casts 2(two) call of the wilds then soul of the forest and only clears my board
Very fuckign tilting considering he had no minions left and couldn't possible win
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>>145070527
>I play Yogg
>wipes the board, kills himself, damages my face, mills cards, casts Spellbender
>generally left worse off than before I played Yogg

>Opponent plays Yogg
>wipes my board only, buffs himself and every other minion, Freezing Trap, Explosive Trap, Counterspell, draws cards, gives their face attack power and charge
>generally better off than before they played Yogg

I just don't get it.
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>Haven't fought a single warrior over at least 8 games until I switched to zoo.
The matchmaking TOTALLY isn't rigged guys.
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Are we getting another adventure before Blizzcon?
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Guys I'm completely burnt out.
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>>145071927
>Hearthstone release - March 11, 2014
4 months, 11 days
>Curse of Naxxramas - July 22, 2014
4 months, 16 days
>Goblins vs. Gnomes - December 8, 2014
3 months, 25 days
>Blackrock Mountain - April 2, 2015
4 months, 22 days
>The Grand Tournament - August 24, 2015
2 months, 19 days
>League of Explorers - November 12, 2015
5 months, 14 days
>Whispers of the Old Gods - April 26, 2016
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>>145072306
so like 2 more moths atleast until we get some kind of information right?
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What the fuck, I don't play for a couple of days and suddenly the entire ladder is hunters?
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>>145072504

greetings, traveler :DDDDDD
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>>145072473
End of August at the earliest
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>>145072504
Good thing hunter sucks
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>>145072717
Not if you're trying to finisha warrior quest
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>>145072504
This is why I say fuck the meta game and just play whatever I feel like playing. Thanks to CuckStorm and streamers, the meta shifts way too quickly to be bothered to adjust to it every time, so just add tech choices as necessary to stay competitive and just accept that some weeks your deck won't perform as well as it should.

lel@urlife if you take rank seriously in this game, anyway.
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>>145072753
You have plentynof ways to handle a hunter with warrior


Its been a month, and the brawls havent really needed to use any nonstandars cards. Is it still worth keeping most of naxx and gvg?
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I want to do a Cthun warrior but i dont Have justicar / gorehowl / Elise. I seem to have all other needed cards. Are those missing legendaries and the weapon replaceable?
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>open malkorok
>open yogg-saron in the exact next pack
>all this fun
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>mirror match
>youre deeper into your deck
>your opponent is drawing all the key cards
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>>145073564
Gorehowl and elise arent really cthun staples. Justicar however is required in any nonaggro waerior deck.
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>>145073564
i'd say gorwhowl and justcar are pretty important, although they kind of buff each other. you can attack so freely cause you got all this armor.
you could just try to make the deck finish faster with a rag and that 4/6 that draws cthun or other cards that i cant think of atm.
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>tfw no viable mage deck
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Post a deck you like so I can copy ...........
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>opponent's Yogg casts Shadowstep on itself
>drops it again next turn, casts Vanish
>drops it a third time and kills me

great game. truly a test of skill between equally matched players.
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>>145074309
Kill him before turn 12 next time
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>>145074360
Had lethal on board the first time he dropped it. It cleared my board.

Had lethal in hand the second time he dropped it, but it cast Freezing Trap so I couldn't get my charge minion off without it being sent back and losing me the game.

Third time I died.

There is no reason for this level of rng.
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Finally got my first old gods legendary, any good?
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>>145074559
There is when it is balanced by yogg being useless or straight up suicidal 2/5 times.
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>>145074559
Get destroyed zoo man
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there really should be a rule that you cant lose stars until rank 5 if you were legend once
its so boring "losing" against all these inferior players just because they got the god draw again
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>>145074769
(you)
There guys I replied, you dont need to do it now
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>>145074664
>suicidal 2/5 times
This is a gross underestimate. Yogg is beneficial more often than he is detrimental, even if the benefit is a small one. Sometimes he straight up wins you games that you had no business winning. It's ridiculous.

>>145074703
t. Servant of Yogg-Saron
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>>145074967
I am not one of the worst cards in the game senpai
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>>145074967
>Yogg is beneficial more often than he is detrimental
That's literally what I said. 2/5 (bad/nothing) < 3/5 (good)
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>>145075428
I should have said overestimate, then.

Either way my point still stands. Yogg is an annoying fuccboi and I hate losing games strictly because of a series of beneficial spells for my opponent. It happens more frequently than anyone will ever give it credit for, they'll just continue to call it a non-competitive meme card even though Yogg decks are being brought to major tournaments and are all over the top legend ladder right now.
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>>145075704
>beneficial more often than he is detrimental
>60% is an overestimate

anon shouldn't you be in school or something
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>>145075704
Well I dont have yogg, so my 2/5 vs 3/5 stats come from playing against him. I dont think he is a threat in the current meta nor that he should be nerfed.
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>>145074570
he was decent for that 2 card brawl we had

otherwise no

enjoy your free epic
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>>145076000
What are you talking about?

He said Yogg is suicidal 2/5 times, and I'm saying that this is an overestimate. He's suicidal/detrimental less than that i.e. 1/5 times or something smaller.
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>>145076212
Then youre just wrong
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Fuck arena. First battle was a god damn muster paladin with BOTH fucking Ragnaros'
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>>145076408
There is no way to definitely say exactly how often Yogg is good vs bad without looking at a ton of games, but most players who have analysed data like this have determined that he is more often good than he is bad or neutral. I don't know what the exact ratio is but in my experience every time my opponent plays Yogg they are left better off than when they started, it's very rare that Yogg straight up loses them the game which is why I said him being purely a detriment 40% of the time was a gross overestimate.

You can stay mad if you want, Yoggboi, or you can show some numbers to back up your definitive and conclusive "you're wrong" statement.
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So I crafted this deck after pulling a Deathwing, Dragonlord and holy crapoli I've been on a win streak from 20 to 14. One more win will throw me into 13.

I've never progressed past 15 before (I play very casually, just a few games a day and usually with less competitive deck type). Would a Dragon Warrior deck be able to take me to 10? Maybe higher?

How badly would I need to unlock BrM for the Corruptors and Drakonids? I feel like I may need them now that the matches are getting tougher.
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>>145076826
>dragon decks without corruptors
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>>145076946

Well, that's why I'm asking. I don't normally play Dragon decks before this one.

Guess I need them, then.
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>>145076826
any deck can bring you to legend. a higher winrate will only get you there faster.
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>>145077116
>any deck can bring you to legend
No. it needs at least 50% winrate
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>play hunter vs warrior
>he plays axe turn 2
>i coin camel assuming he's control
>pulls out nzoth first mate
>he play the warrior upgrade gnome pirate
>into double 0 3/3 taunts
>lose by turn 5
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>>145077116

Well that's pretty motivating.

I'll keep playing with this deck and see how far it takes me =)
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>Turn 5 versus agro
> drop bronzebeard and c'thin river croc
> ignores them and goes face, left at 5 he's spamming emotes
> drop coin ancient shieldbearer
> That's incredible
> you win this one, friend

Any fun stories for any of you recently hsg?
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>>145077473
>Playing the reddit camel.
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Oh great, another 1-3 arena against people with fucking amazing decks.
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>>145078672
Go to bed Kripp, you have to stream until 4am again tonight.
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>>145078157
> coin 7/7 4 drop on trun 3 and 1/1 totem from previous trun
> End turn
> Deadly shot 1/1
>Well fought, I concede

Remember fellow Hunters, Deadly Shot's accuracy becomes 100% if there's only one enemy minion
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>playing anything other than a netdeck
>net decking shitter's head explodes
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>>145078751
50% win game 50% chance to loose.
Don't do anything = loose
Yeah..
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>>145078157
>Control Priest vs Control Priest
>his deck is better suited to deal with other control decks
>also plays better than me
>Thoughtsteal his map, play it, draw Monkey
>throw it down
>next turn heal with Lightlord then Varian the following turn which pulls a Deathwing 2.0 and 2 more big guys
>win
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>>145078751
fuck shamans
>turn 3 coin 7/7
>sap
>hero power into the only totem i didnt want, the 1/1
>turn 5 7/7 + rockbiter the 1/1 into my 4/4
>sap
>turn 6 7/7
>turn 7 the other 7/7 and a trogg
>clear his board with 3dmg FoK
>turn 8 dude hammer
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>>145076826
It's not about the deck Anon, but the time that you put in. In current meta a majority of decks are good enough to keep a >50% winrates.

You can get rank 20 with 1% win rate, from rank 20 to 5 with 25-50 more wins than losses and than 51% win rate to reach legend. If you put in enough of your time and play enough games the RNG variations become statistically accurate and then the only thing that separates your from legends are your own dumb decisions.

It's simple as that.
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>>145079569
also consider this
not everyone who plays herathstone will actually finish every game. if even 1% of people either concede to go take a shit, their boss calls them so they alt+f4 hearthstone out, or something else comes up IRL that causes them to leave their computer/tablet/phone then that match is a win for you.
so play enough matches, and yes, you only need a 50% winrate against opponents who don't leave, because your winrate against opponents who do makes it so that your total winrate is above 50%, if only marginally.
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>>145079910
Than it's even simpler.
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Dropped 3 ranks today lads.
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>>145080372
love this game
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>>145080372
Are you me? Don't draw board clears against aggro. Don't draw enough damage against control.
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>warlock
>kill minions
>play cheep minions
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>>145080372
You obviously care about your rank. So next time when you are on loosing streak:

- stop playing after loosing streak of 3 games in a row and retry later
or
- play until you reach the point where you started the game

But desu, the second option works out for the best. Since if you can't reach the starting point, you shouldn't be there anyway.
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Anyone played around with that tier 3 N'Zoth rogue on memestorm? Their description for it doesn't make sense since it says it's the dominant rogue archetype, but they have miracle up higher in tier 2 still. It's funny how N'Zoth felt like a surefire win the week the expansion hit, and now when I play N'Zoth I feel like I just played my only threat and I'll lose unless I shadowstep him the same turn
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>>145081212
I dropped because I started playing hunter. Hunter can't climb past 15 or so.
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>>145081684
Well that's not true. You lost ranks because:
a) you don't know how to play hunter (yet?)
b) you were VERY unfortunate

But the hunter deck mosdef isn't the problem m8.
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>>145082045
>You just don't know how to play it lol
This is a WONDERFUL meme.
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>>145081360
>I feel like I just played my only threat and I'll lose unless I shadowstep him the same turn
I have the same issue when playing N'Zoth. I'm always scared as N'Zoth Priest 'cause even though I know my N'Zoth is gonna be baller as fuck, I never know if I can bait out everything that is gonna fuck my N'Zoth over (Like Equality + Pyromancer).
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>>145082045

Rank 9 using a bot and midrange hunter deck. Anon, don't tell me a bot is better than a human player? :^)
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>>145081684
>15
top fucking kek
literally any deck can get past 15, time for you to realize you need to git gud
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>>145082045
The data for ranks Legend, 1, 2, and 19 is absolutely worthless because the variance (what I'm guess is the +/- column) is on the same order of magnitude as the estimate itself, meaning there are not enough samples to form a useful conclusion from the data.

The rest of it is pretty high variance too so the data is questionable thought not as bad. This is a neat tool but it really needs to be analyzing a larger sample of games.
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No one expects the fifth Keeper.

Not the third Aldor either.
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>>145082540
Being unable to get past rank 15 is a meme.
Retards not knowing how to play the autopilot deck with no draw are real and sad, not meme worthy.
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>>145083234
hope you match zoolocks.
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WHY ARE THEY ALL HUNTERS
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/10/blizzard-on-the-state-of-hearthstone?abthid=575a67a741047d9d39000016


You can make this shit up
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>>145071435
ikr, it just seems so random
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>>145081684
>>145083540
Firebat recently published a pretty good Face Hunter list, so naturally the metacucks will be gravitating to it for a while since it's a fast climb and the deck itself is cheap.
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Guys I just crafted Fandral.
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>>145083557
>hs arena is a problem.

arena is the best place in the world right now, mixing old god with naxx and gvg is the funniest thing ever, and you don't have to limit yourself because of stupid aggro decks because arena almost doesn't allow that to happen
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>>145083627
>face hunter
>it runs doomsayer
I don't understand this meme
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>>145081684
> a deck that thousand of people got to legend with is unable to climb past 15

Holy fucking shit guys, stop blaming the decks and start working on yourselves if you want to get better
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>>145084530
I think it was just a dud card put in to fuck with netdeckers.
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>craft fandral
>stick him in a wicked epic deck
>don't see him once in 3 games

why why why why
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>>145084530
You'll start to understand it when a shaman will drop a Trogg golem opening on you and you'll lose the board (and the game) by turn 1
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>>145084536
I can never seem to find the correct deck to copy.
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>>145084530
Hunter has shit early game
>>
he roped after that
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>highmane turn 6
>call of the wild turn 8
>win

it's very easy. i don't get how anyone is having trouble
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>>145084874
pretty much this
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great card senpai
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>>145085075
>that stormwind champion value
>>
Every time I get 12 wins in arena I get some shit reward like this.
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>>145085314
Show us your pack! Show us your pack! Show us your pack!
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>>145085218
Yep. Got mad synergies there. Steward into Stand Against Darkness, with Stormwind Champion and Dire Wolf in hand :^)
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Justicar Trueheart, Doomhammer x1, Doomsayer x1, Ragnaros, Lightlord, Call of the Wild x2, Malkorok, Varian Wrynn.

Are these cards worth crafting? What do you think?
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>>145085528
Nothing is worth crafting. Just play arena.
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>you have already earned 100 gold
enough nerdstone for today then :^)
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>>145085716
>Play a shitload of the game
>lol who plays this dumb game am I right?!!?
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>>145085528
Whatever you end up crafting, keep in mind TGT won't be around too much longer in standard.
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guys I'm relatively new, is there a control deck that doesn't require you to be rich or play the game for like 100 years?

every list I find is a clusterfuck of legendaries.
and warrior has a ton of epics aswell, which is just as painful to craft.
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>>145085958
yeah you're right, I mean, another entire fucking year is like nothing.
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>>145086034
of course there is. you just won't win very much with them

consider priest maybe? you can steal the opponent's legendaries
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>>145086034
We call control warrior wallet warrior for a reason. Control decks that win are impossible for a new player.
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>>145086162
I'm not sure what deck you mean, the priest decks I've seen have a lot of legendaries.

also, isn't priest the one class that nobody plays anymore?

I've been trying to grind the ladder, played a shitload of games and I honestly can't remember when was the last time I saw a priest.
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>This fucking brawl
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>>145086356
just put every card that steals shit as you can in your deck, as well as some of the good common cards you have

you probably won't do as well as other control decks but it's something at least
>>
when is reynad streaming?
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>arena
>have 4 5-drops in my deck
>all 4 are in my hand on turn 4 when I'm getting flooded by a warlock
great game
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>>145079569
>>145079910

That's some fair points. Already I've had some players concede today just a few turns in from I assume people needing to leave, and a few concedes from people who lost their steam I guess and left despite their loss not being guaranteed.

I normally don't ever play as many matches as I have so far this month so it feels like as long as I can dedicate a couple of hours spread over a day, evey day, I should be able continue climbing.

Also this is the longest I've stuck with one deck instead of bouncing around so i guess I'm beginning to really get used to it.
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>>145085816
exactly
got em
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>>145049794
>Alexstrasza the Life-Binder
>blizzard's goddess of fertility equivalent
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So this is the pack you get for failing 1-3 in arena.
Who's hiding under there?
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>>145085958

I don't get this meme

TGT won't cycle out until at least mid or late April/Spring 2017

That's 10 or so months from now. Plenty of time to make use of, say, Justicar, with enough time to save up gold and dust for the next two releases this year.
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is it worth building a c'thun druid if I can't craft fandral?
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>>145087204
Don't play any Druid deck without Fandral, anon.
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POST cards that seem really bad but are actually GOOD

>good stats
>you can always find a way to use his ability to your advantage
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>>145087329
>Always turns opponents small minion to 5/5
>Always turns your big minions to 1/1
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>>145087282
what the fuck can a newbie play then?
I have a zoolock and a midrange shaman, both of which got me to rank 5 last season, but now I can't get past rank 15 for some fucking reason.

and I'm also tired of playing this aggro shit.
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>>145087129
CHAOS BEGGIIIIIINS
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>>145087437
>t. shieldbearer who has never seen the card in action
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>>145087204
yea it is. ignore the other guy, its not even in some lists.
mostly it does nothing or gives you a 4 dmg wrath.
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>>145087329
3 in 4 times there's at least a chance he'll put you at a huge disadvantage. For that, he should have at least premium stats if not better.
>>
>>145087437
>>145087652
>t. shieldbearer
>>
I started playing during WOTOG and thus have almost no cards from the vanilla packs.

I need Leeroy but I don't know if it'd be smarter to start buying vanilla packs or keep doing WOTOG since that'd get me a lot more dust since it'd mostly all be repeats so I could just craft.

thoughts?
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>>145087638
do you use it?
could you show me your list?
some lists differ and I'm not sure what to go for, since I have to craft most of the cards.
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>>145087583
Damn, forgot to screenshot

Pretty good, I already have a lot of the meta legos from old gods, and he seems at least meme tier.
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>>145087973
>spoonfeed me a netdeck I am too dumb to pick my 30 best cards
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>>145087916
if you're a f2p I'd recommend not to buy any expansion packs until you have a decent classic collection, and just craft the expansion cards that you specifically need.

mainly because the TGT cards are literally shit, but WotG has a lot of useless stuff aswell, still not as much as TGT but whatever.
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when he doesnt play around dart trap
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>>145088181
I'm not f2p, but when I was gifted the game my friend got me all the expansions. I have no qualms about dropping real dollarinos on packs
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>>145088153
>my 30 best cards

they're not, that's the thing, I'm so hesitant because I have to craft everything, and since I'm a f2p I don't want to waste valuable dust in shit cards.
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>forgot to play around Betrayal in constructed
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>>145087973
>>145087973
no idea who i copied this from, probably sjow.
i dont have bran. It works, but its really boring. Probably best if youre new tho.
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>>145088553
reeeeee
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>>145088551
I Still remember to play around explosive shot, to many memelords on ladder
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>>145087916
>>145088181
>>145088303
If you have most of the classic rares and commons from a set, it's better to buy the other sets. You'll always get at least some usable cards. Additionally, a lot of the classic cards are essential.
>>
>>145085314
>>145085371
Fine asshole, I hope you get fucking raped you motherfucker.
>>
do you hear its call

listen closely

it says that you are gay

LOL
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>>145087329
>>145088551
>he doesn't play around tinkmaster overspark
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>>145088730
yeah that's similar to the one that I was gonna build, I can craft either ragnaros or sylvanas, I think I'm gonna go sylvanas, and replace ragnaros with harrison.

thanks m8
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>long, drawn out game
>have lethal on the board but yogg in hand

what do you do, /hsg/?
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>>145085528
if you want to ever play hunter craft 2x call of the wilds, that's all i can say

literally broken card
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>>145066176
get good
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Every single match at my shitter rank is against hunter.
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>>145089814
yogg is a generous god
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>>145089814
Ayy what the fuck
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>playing game
>servers fuck themselves
THANKS BLIZZARD
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>Replace secrets eater since I never get to use it
>Get matched against 5 secret paladins in a row for the first time since standard became a thing
I can't believe I am still playing this unbalanced and rigged piece of shit game.
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>>145087329
Has been garbage after the nerf, disenchanted it then and disenchanted every copy of it I got since
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>young 'beas in mah saits' is the hero of the movie
BRAVO BRODE
R
A
V
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B
R
O
D
E
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>>145089814
>topdeck the exact 15 cards you need to win the game
Why is yogg allowed?
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>The fedora Warrior felt safe and cozy behind his 24 life/armor
>Little did he know about my Leeroy, my 2 POs, my Abusive and my Soulfire
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>>145091967
>I'm cancer
Ok
>>
>>145092265
Extraordinary.
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>>145091967
>24 = 20
here we have the proff that zoolocks are just SMOrcs in disguise
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>>145092265
Control warrior is as cancerous as zoo. Maybe even more, at least with zoo is over in 5 minutes.
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>>145058489
I am usually the guy that sends friend request after a good or above average game, I never said anything bad to my opponents after adding them, usually compliments and GG tops

but yeah i got where you are coming from, There was this kid I added after a game that couldn't even English and was role playing as some sort of anime villain, needless to say he got removed
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>>145092315
Had a bunch of tentacles already on board
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>>145091967
>PO and charge
Great minion interaction brode I can tell which type of gameplay you prioritize
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Guys I missed the memo, when does the Feast of Souls begin again?
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>tfw priest entombs spellbender from Cabalist's Tome
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>>145092620
>tfw pressuring a warrior but then he plays a 2 card heal for 20 combo
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is there a reno lock list thats any good right now? seem to be getting shit on by agro and shaman as per usual.
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>>145092605
J-JUST WAIT FOR MY C'THUN TO REACH 10 ATTACK
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>>145092742
sounds like standard RenoLock to me.
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>not a single priest deck in the spring championships
>every single contestant uses at least one of warrior, warlock or shaman

Wow great game blizztards
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>>145092620
>When you pw shield a flamewaker and the mage spends his turn angrily hero powering his own minion
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This brawl is so dumb.

It's just a competition to draw two offensive plays first so you can flood the board with shit.
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>>145093140
One's enough if you get dupe/trip low cost
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>>145092716

>Heal

nah mate armor is completely different :^)
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who is it boys
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Would anyone be interested in taking me under their wing and teaching me to play:
Tempo Warrior
Zoo
Midrange Hunter
We can also get a dom/sub thing going and send lewds.
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>>145092847

I love how Kolento is always forcing the OTK Priest deck but fails miserably with it. Honestly, who the fuck brings a fucking 5-card combo deck to a tournament? Serves him right.
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>>145093719
LIVE INSECT
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I wish that I was a cute girl.

If we ever did a /hsg/ meetup I would let you guys touch my boobs and butt and I'd let most of you fuck me if you wanted to.

>>145093719
It's Xaril.
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>>145093719
Anomalus
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>>145093889
>>145093874
>>145093938

nice i lowkey kinda wanted this card actually. c'unt counter plays?

anyone use this?
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>>145093889
Haha, I'd love to get fucked by you faggots but ONLY if I was a girl.
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>>145094057
I could see him being pretty decent in either Patron or Tempo Warrior. I think he'd be decently easy to proc in Tempo Warrior and 6/6 is pretty decent.

>>145094092
SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>145094057
I don't remember the last time I saw a C'Thun pop off, my man.
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>open yogg t o d a y
>make a yogg and load deck with summoning stones
>against a c'thun druid
>get 2 lock and loads from my first one
>infinite calls of the wild
>infinite freezing traps
>he can't do shit
>yogg kills his c'thun
>summoning stone and call of the wild finish the game

I do not regret opening him
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>>145070000
U just killed the taxmaster
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I haven't played hearthstone in a really long time and I have no clue what would be a good deck to use with all of the new cards and some of the old ones being unusable in standard so I made a really shitty tempo mage with the cards I have, is this even remotely functional?

I miss unstable portal but I still can use some of my rng shitter cards which makes me somewhat happy.
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>2 Lorewalker Chos
>double offensive play out a chillmaw
>opponent plays FIVE Chromaggus
>I have Eadric the pure
>keep filling his hand with offensive plays so he never draws any cards
>his Chromaggus never get through the Chillmaw
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>>145091508
>tfw someone was playing memestone in the movie theater before it started
>tfw he was playing shaman
>tfw King Llane gets killed by Garona, but only because he tells her to so she can save herself- everyone else thinks she's a traitor though
>tfw Stormwind doesn't burn
>tfw Khadgar wasn't cursed with old age (yet, I bet it's some contract bullshit with the actor who has to be in the next movie)
>tfw Orgrimm doesn't kill Blackhand or become warchief, instead Lothar does and they leave it ambiguous who the new warchief is

Khadgar and magic in general were my favorite parts of the movie

I liked the movie though, some of the acting on the minor characters was weak, especially Moroes.
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The fuck are Blizzard doing
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Feels good man
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>>145095319
They've been rolling in money since Hearthstone release
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>>145095320
fuuuarrrrrk
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>>145095320
m e m e s
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Jesus fucking christ how sre you supposed to win against people playing vaporize or spellbender
Cant play around cards that are used 1 out of every million decks
Fuck rank 14
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>>145094861
consider 1/2 mirror images for the old wyrm coin mirror play
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>>145095715
theres literally no reason not to play around vaporize. spellbender cuck shit. but with yogg and cabalists u gotta play around eye for an eye these days
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>Durdling around with bullshit decks
>Opponent leaves lethal on board instead of trading with Leeroy

I can't make this stuff up man
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>>145096149
>playing against a girl
topkek
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>>145095320
nice skeram.
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Isn't RenoLock supposed to be favored against Fedora Warrior? I just played a game where all he had to do was armor up way out of my combo range and just win fatigue.

Am I really forced to play Midrange Hunter if I want to beat these hat tippers?
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>>145087627
I've used him a few times off Jeweled Scarab. Only good if you have an empty board and opponent has something bigger than a 5/5.
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>tfw i dont have the patience to rope shitters
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>>145093814
I'm good with zoo and decent with the rest (I reach rank 5 every season). What server are you on?
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Someone post a renounce darkness deck pls
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>>145096484
Do you run Jaraxxus?
Your gameplan is to outvalue control warrior with him and only combo for lethal when you're fatiguing.
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>>145097241
75% memes, 25% luck
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>>145097241
you just play all the good warlock cards
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Post your control buster decks
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>>145096484
Jaraxxus>Fatigue

Gotta be careful tough, you have to watch out for an eventual Grom+weapon OTK on Jaraxxu's low health
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>>145097503
100% reason to remember the name
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>>145097571
just hunter
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>>145097359
>>145097581
Shit, I'm not running Jaraxxus because I don't have the dust to craft him. I am running the Alex+Leeroy+PO+Faceless Combo, though.

Am I going to need Jaraxxus if I ever want to win that match? Is there anything I can replace him with?
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>>145097571
Just play memerange hunter. It's a fun if you want to punish control.
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>>145097915
>>145097669
The last time you guys spouted about the new fotm deck it was tempo warrior. And that deck sucks.
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This brawl is dumb.
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>>145094185
lol really? Ladder's filled with c'thun druid
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fucking adventure jewery i swear to god
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>>145094057
I use it in my Tempo Warrior as a sub for Cairne/Malkorok. He's actually decent. Nothing to write home about, but a honest, good legendary
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>>145099718
Only around ranks 20-10. I haven't seen a c'thun druid for a long time.
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>>145099445
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>>145100210
You mean ranks 20-10 LEGEND? Because I see it fairly often.
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>it's an
>it's a druid's turn 1 living roots survive until turn ten because both of my flame juggle pings went face turn 1 with coin and turn two episode
>it's a druid also has two wraths and topdecks into both swipes ensuring absolutely nothing I play can possible remain on the board episode
>it's a finally stablize after dropping c'thun past turn ten but only have 4 hp remaining episode
>it's a druid topdecks druid of the claw episode
>episode
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Get FUCKED you piece of shit shaman
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>>145101305
I hope he makes it a frog. Rogue players act so high and mighty because "muh skill" but only an idiot ladders with a deck that loses to every other deck.
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>>145095715
>>145096106

>tfw I considered playing around vaporize but just "naahhh'd" it and lost my fire ele when I had a 1/1 on board anyway
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>>145096149
Is that a Reno Shadowform Priest? Mind sharing decklist? I'm having fun with memes like Yogg Hunter and Patron Lock but this looks interesting
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Who can I spectate in US? Reply with your tags
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dead game
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>>145103465
and were back
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>>145089814
>Bamboleo
Fuck you now that song is stuck in my head
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Lego time
I totally didn't buy 15 packs, I promise
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>>145104606
tony
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>It's a shaman wins solely because of tuskarr rng game
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>>145105331
> Shaman is so retarded that he plays Tuskarr on the right of the board even if he has minions out
> he still wins because the deck is utterly unfair

Nice game
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>>145104606
The Brotherhood
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>>145104606
WIIIIIINDSSS
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>N'Zoth paladin was the shit last month
>crafted Lightlord, Justicar and Eadric just for it.
>hit rank 5 easily.
>now it's a tier 3 deck and can't break rank 15

That's it guys, i'm joining the cancer shamans.
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>>145104606
*Dinosaur noises*
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>>145105331
>>145105538
play warrior or zoo
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3, 2, 1, yfw the deck would be at its most balanced state ever if devs hadn't given 5 broken or crappily designed cards in the last 9 months
go
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>>145105926
>the deck
i meant the game ffs
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Why the hell am I suddenly running into Token Druids?!
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Wow...
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>>145105926
No Dr. 4 and Memeshire councilman
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>Blizzard still hasn't fixed the bug where cards sometimes overlap (temporarily) when you draw cards
holy SHIT is this company incompetent
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>>145105831
I am, but they're more of a soft counter than a full shaman-proof cockblocker. alas I'm finding only hunters and warriors right now anyway so it's daijobu
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> there are still people butthurt over this brawl.

And here I am going first and dropping dragonlord into 4 Deathwings.

Stop demanding logic from the card game and have fun.
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>>145106545

Nah no fun allowed man

Even though with most brawls you know when you lost within a few minutes so you can just concede until you get a good mulligan for class quests or the pack or gold

If the autistic spergs can't perfectly control the one mode made for fun, random casual play with copy-pasted decks they just endlessly bitch about it instead of just sticking to Constructed

See: 100's of weekly threads on the forums crying for TB to be removed because people can't shitstomp it with premade decks
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>>145105779
You just suck you net decking tempo storm faggot
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>>145106453
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>>145106453
too buisy ballancing the game
haha, who am i kidding, too buisy couting their money
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>>145105926
>>145105926
>its yet another "the game was perfectly balanced 3+ months ago i swear" post
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do you're thing
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>>145107575
the feast of souls begins now
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>>145107575
shift al mani
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>>145107575
BEHOLD THE RAGE OF THE FIRELANDS!
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>>145107575
__W
B O O G E Y
__O
__G
__E
__Y
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>>145105779

All of last month's Tier 1 decks can still hit Legend. If a deck that brought you to 5 can't take you past 15 in the span of 1 month then you're doing something catastrophically wrong.

Try tweaking it to counter whatever is giving you trouble now instead of wondering why an outdated deck tailored for last season's meta suddenly doesn't work so well anymore

Mite require more brain cells than mindlessly copying a list off tempostorm tho so maybe you should just stick to Shaman
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>>145107624
>>145107653
>>145107710
>>145107731
memes
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Just opened an Alexstraza. Where does she go aside form freeze mage?
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Take leeroy out of the game allready
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>>145107067

> remove a game mode because anon and redditors don't like a free pack for dealing with the special mode having occasional net Deckers

> saying TB is bad using a strawman argument as the decisive reason.

Remind me again why you are playing a card game? That complaint can be broad stroked amongst anything competitive.

Which means that everything should be removed because there are too many sheeple in the world
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>>145071629
> play zoo
> win
> rigged matchmaking triggers immediatly and gives me nothing but warriors
> still win

It's the third warrior in a row and everything's fine
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>tfw you face freeze mage in arena
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>>145108050
if you have any sort of controll deck, and just need some lategame legends, its not that bad. 8/8 is pretty big, and its effect can soemtimes be pretty huge too.
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>>145108259
Can Control Warrior even work without Justicar?
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>>145108134

The matchmaking algorithm was specifically designed to prevent you from having fun anon. Don't you feel special?
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How many Brawls do warriors run? I'm always holding myself back waiting for the second one but a lot of times they don't even have a second one
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>>145108481
only cw and cthun run brawls, usually 2
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>>145108481
If they're control (or control variants) 2, if not 0
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>>145107534
I said the opposite you literal autist
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>>145108481

Run two and don't be retarded with the first one.

If they reset their field after your first brawl, the best idea is to not brawl right after the first one.

Control better and Git gud
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>>145108715
Read again. I would never play shit like warrior.
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>>145108420

See: tempo warrior
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>Shamans non-stop
>Switch to priest
>Miracle rogue and malygos druid
FOR FUCK SAKE I REALLY WISH MATCH UPS WEREN'T SO FUCKING ONE SIDED LIKE WHATS THE POINT OF NOT FUCKING CONCEDING AT THE START
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>>145058489

I always accept hoping for some entertaining butthurt but so far no luck, just some perfectly nice people wanting to say gg. Shit sucks.
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>>145109039
maybe if u learened to play risky ud win some of the one sided matchups... remember patron- druid matchups pre nerfs where patron would lose 90% if they didnt get deathsbite into innerage patrons but lose basically all other games?
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>>145108481

My rule is just assume they have only 1 brawl, or haven't drawn the 2nd one. Bait the first brawl then flood the board, if they brawl again then fuck it you were probably going to lose anyway.

Unless I'm playing something like an Nzoth deck. In that case I know they'll save a brawl to fuck over my win condition so I'd always leverage that as hard as possible.
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The dream
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>tfw free pack quest
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>>145109637
>3.6 mb png

Fuck no
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>>145109893
Hello Australia
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Goddamnit why can't we craft cards from all the adventures yet?

I just need 2x Corruptors for my Dragon Warrior deck but with only BrM 1 I'd have to spend $20 since they're in the last wing.

Is it even possible to buy the wings out of order?
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>shitting on shamans
This is very nice.
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>>145110178
yeah u just ring up blizzard office and ask for it.
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i dont understand
why do my opponents get 2 of this -3 mana cost in brawl and i only get one?
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>>145110721
>rank 12
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>>145110895
Legend very soon
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Any suggestions? Am I missing any essentials?
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>>145111662
You have very little burst
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>>145111662
ditch coil for a 2nd PO
ditch Dark Iron for Gormok
ditch bilefin because there is a guy in this general who gets triggered by bilefin in zoo
ditch a giant for a Leeroy and ignore that guy who gets triggered by that
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Do i always got 3 quests now?
Its been a long time since i actually played 2 days in a row.
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I've been laddering with MalyRogue for a while now and I'm thinking of switching to Leeroy Miracle for a change of pace. How different are these decks in terms of playstyle? Which one is better for laddering? I was doing ok with MalyRogue.
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>he doesn't run yogg
>he doesn't play far sight into kill-a-20/20-for-free
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>>145110773

Haha.

Guess I'll give Blizz my sheckles. I spend enough time playing to warrant it, but it's still lame.
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>>145112327
If you let 3 quests sit for a bit then complete them all in a day, the next rollover you get another 3.

If you reroll any of them it doesn't work though
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It's that time again

I kinda want a Leeroy
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>5(five) and 0 against Shamanbabbies
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>>145088869
5 hours ago
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>>145114065
n@
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>>145114250
What rank? How did you play 15 games without running into a Hunter?
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>>145096406
OHHHH IT RISES
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>>145114250
>15 games without miracle rogue
I don't believe you
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>>145114660
11 now. Just threw an anti-zoo deck together with Shadow Word: Horrors and no Norhshire Clerics and it's fucking shit up.
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>>145111662
i'm supposing you don't have leeroy or gormok

ditch coil for another PO
ditch the bilefins, add 2 IGB
ditch 1 flame juggler for a soulfire
i'd cut a flame imp or ritual for 1 argent squire as well

if you don't have IGB, add argent squires/soulfire in its place
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>>145114065
Dr 2
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>>145115030
Why no bilefins? They are cute and fun
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Zoo is a filthy fucking deck, I haven't had such winstreaks in ages
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cant stop playing this retarded shit desu
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I got bloodmage thalnos from my brawl pack this week!

I really wanna try miracle rogue out, but I don't wanna spend a ton of dust to craft both leeroy and edwin.

Is miracle rogue without edwin viable? What do I sub for it?

Should I try the deathrattle miracle instead (I have n'zoth, sylvanas, carine).
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>>145116596
you can sub edwin for questing adventurer, but it really isn't ideal

you can also try miracle with southsea + faceless combo

dr rogue is fine, so i'd say go for it
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Ah... these are the games I like to play, actual skill in a game filled up with aggroshitters, feels great.
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>>145116991
>deathwing in control warrior
you got some balls anon
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>>145116991
literal autism
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>>145115873
You should have 90 wins at max

getting more than 30 wins a day is pointless
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>>145117468
Don't talk like that about my Friend
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reminder yogg is the best card in the game. missed lethal for 4 turns to pull this off. it mind controlled his yasharj LOL
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>>145116991
>11(Eleven) Fatigue damage
holy shit
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>lose to midrange shaman
>lose to nzoth cthun priest

goddamit
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>>145117826
We literally just used tank up pass until he realized he had to play N'zoth or otherwise he'd just lose the fatigue game. I was holding two brawls plus deathwing, all planned.
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>>145117783
>missing 5 epics from the mage yogg deck
guess I could try the druid version
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>>145117667
but its fun______
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I was just about to post how retarded Deathwing is in arena since you can just go face to bait out everything the opponent has and then wipe the board with Deathwing and win.

Well shit.
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>>145118272
hunter version is the most powerful desu. 38-22 with it
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>>145118634
That needs LnL right? I skipped TGT so that'd have to set me back.
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>offline for 2 days
>offline for 22 days
>offline for 2 months
JUST
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>tfw you counterspell call of the wild and he autoconcedes
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>>145118457

you still win u cuck
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>>145118906
here's what I use

it's a legit control hunter deck for the first time ever
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>>145119214
he's 100% screwed, the fuck you saying
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>>145119439

>mage has shitload of cards
>can't guarantee reno value
>hit face next turn as much as possible
>deathwing
>lethal for 12 next turn since no taunt minions
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>>145119734
He doesn't have deathwing
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>>145119059
i just deleted about 7 people from my friends list that have been inactive for weeks
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>>145119236
Ah I was wondering why someone On the Hunted me earlier. Looks fun but I assume LnL is the whole engine for the deck. Don't really want to invest dust in TGT cards.
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>>145119836

>his whole post was about how good deathwing is
>not assuming he will draw it next turn
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>>145119734
where do you see deathwing there you fucking mongrel
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>>145119984
not really. its only good for control matchups. optimally you want to pull emp with ellek, then emp a bunch of cheap cards, then go off with lnl. usually though the best turn 7 will be reduced call of the huffer.

it's a control deck in the way frost mage is a control deck. its all burn and removal (and best burn hero power). so usually the burn route is better than the value route. you could play without LnL imo
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Questing Adventurer is fucking broken with nobody playing silences anymore
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>>145093820
If control priest was good then otk priest would work. Just add in a the otk combo over nzoth or whatever and you're set. Too bad priest sucks though
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>tfw Priest is favorite class
>not even gonna bother trying to ladder
I'd feel bad playing a full N'Zoth Priest list in casual if it wasn't full of Zoo and Shaman in the first place.
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I fucking did it. After countless hours, I finally unlocked the BIG REWARDS chest
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I play c'thun druid
>shit draws, relying on top dicks, no board control, c'thun bottom at deck

Opponent plays c'thun druid
>perfect plays, has all the right counters, perfect openers, board control, 10 cards in hand, c'thun by turn 10

fucking wat
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>tfw climbing with Midrange Dragon Warrior

I love tribe decks
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what do you guys think of my hot new reno zoo deck
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>>145123402
>Reno Zoo
Trump tried it, wasn't that good
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>all my decks lose to shaman
>what am i doing with my life
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>>145102351
Still there? I'm using Brian Kibler's list, with some budgeted options

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDDYdJlNm_s

I don't like his Herald, and the deck is kinda light on removal, but preeeeeetty fun
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>It's an "about to rank up and then you run into Dr. 4" episode
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Dead game
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New warrior card: get outta here kid. Discover a minion. That minion is discarded
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>beat two zoos in a row with godlike tempomage draws
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I... I can't deny my homolust for Kripp anymore.

What do I do? Do I send him an anonymous letter?
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uh guys... reynad is making history again..
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I feel like mage is lacking diversity in its spells. Especially since flamecannon and unstable portal are not usable in standard.
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>>145132117
explain retard i dont watch entertaining white boys

just a very salty Romanian :)
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>>145132391
Hearthstone in general has a lack of variety in its cards, blizzard is already running out of design space
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>disenchant gold ysera to craft yogg (already had normal ysera)
>get a yogg from a pack

it's such bullshit how this game screws you twice if you decide not to buy packs
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>>145132703

he made some gimmick paladin buffing deck and now it has 18 wins in a row
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>>145132391
I feel like warriors are lacking removal tbqh (to be quite honest)
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>>145132985
Just because he can pilot a retarded deck doesn't mean it'll work
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>>145067603
It's because you shouldn't have to try hard. Being good should come naturally so when you need to try hard you look like a faggot
>>
Need to spectate someone winning. OXITRON#1195 please.
>>
what do you guys think about the idea of making a F2P hearthstone account to start a complete classic collection with brawl packs and quests and then save up a bunch of extra gold for new expansions, and then you could get a girlfriend and offer her that account so she can play with you?
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>>145134335
You might as well try to turn lead into gold
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>>145132983
i crafted a yogg and unboxed one days later too

feels bad man

i cant be throwing out 1200 dust
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Holy shit why is this general so deaderooni

It was at like 200 posts when I went to sleep and it's now only at 550
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>>145132983
its not true man. i bought 80 packs this last week, hoping to get fandral. didnt get it so i crafted him with all the dust i got.

2 days later open a fandral from a pack that i bought with 100 gold. 5 days after that i opened another one. this game is just suffering
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>>145136765
there are only so many ways to complain about a 4 mana 7/7. everyone got hyped as fuck for standard but it only took a couple weeks to realize this game is still shit
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>>145136765

Sever went down a few hours ago. Might have something to do with it.
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>>145136765
4chan's posting servers shit the bed
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>>145136782
you could have just saved the gold
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>>145134276
added in north korea
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>>145136782
>>145132983
>tfw you unpack 3 legendaries that are viable in a row in under 20 packs

I got yogg, ysera, thalnos, and jaraxus from packs. I crafted archmage antonidas, tirion, sylvannas, and leeroy. Hope I don't open those two guys
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>>145137569
still trying to get all the cards. im not f2p. but i still have a limit to how much actual money i hand blizzard
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what should I craft from the classic collection that I don't have
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Hey look, I fixed Priest.
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Why doesn't this game have a tournament mode where you can pay gold into a pot and then the pot is split based on placement?
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Matchmaking is so rigged on this game it's blantantly obvious. Lovely once again blizzard.
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I wish that my mom would give me blowjobs while I played Hearthstone
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we /swag/ now
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>>145143062
Epic win dude
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>>145058489
i think i was shaman

>game super close
>3 minions on field for both of us
>I have to kill at least one to win
>totem, no spell buff
>use lightning storm
>hits 2 on every single minion
>they all live and i concede
>guy adds me and say feels bad man

it did feel bad, man..
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>>145143062
Is this a new thing? Don't remember seeing this when I hit 500
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warrior is so strong because everything that might contest acolyte of pain except Millhouse dies to fucking fiery war axe
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>>145143474
500 wins on a class on ranked for golden potrait. Not just any random 500 wins.
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>>145143481
totem golem says hi
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>>145058489
>always see people say this
>want someone to add me and shit talk me so I can giggle
>never happens
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>>145143561
Oh, I see, yeah, that would explain, still haven't achieved that, 380 is currently my class with most wins
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>>145143673
go play obnoxious cancer decks and you'll see
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What decks will get me bullied the most? I'm playing a lot of midrange hunter, miracle, and tempo wariror right now.
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>>145063356

I run Fiery, Arcanite, and Gorehowl... How many weapons do you actually need?
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>>145143961
probably aggro shaman
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>>145143961
how do you even win with midrange hunter? I feel like its just a giant lottery.
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>>145144171
Yeah, it's almost an auto loss if you don't curve out well, but when you have a decent curve on the first 3-4 turns, then drop Highmane and Call of the xD then it feels really hard to lose.

>>145144074
Na senpai I'm not that gay.
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So after I played a match of tavern brawl. i got a popup from the game but i clicked to quickly and didnt see what it was but all i saw was a card at an angle with the top part curled a bit. anyone know what this was?
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Is there a rogue deck without backstab in it?
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>>145144845
why would there be a rogue deck without backstab in it
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>>145143575
oh thats right I've sworn off shaman since blizzard decided to make every one exactly the same
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predictions?
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>>145145309
>asking when you're already 3-1
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>>145145627
c'mon man i lost to raffaam into kel'thuzad i need a confidence boost
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https://twitter.com/playhearthstone/status/741330960793276417
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Do paladins need to be buffed in arena?
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Caw#2601 EU

Would anyone mind winning a game for my quest?
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>>145146192
You just need to get gud
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>>145146192
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>>145146192
id say there fine right now there are plenty of powerful common cards you can draft
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> Enjoying brawl, facing different classes
> Suddenly I face paladin after paladin

Well, it looks like we are in underaged fag time.
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>>145146192
paladins are a meh arena class now

currents ranking is
rogue
-power gap-
mage
warrior
-power gap-
warlock
paladin
shaman
druid
-power gap-
hunter
priest
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>>145146480
>shaman that low

wad de fug
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>>145146480
nah desu

it's:

Mage = Rogue >> Paladin = Shaman > Druid = Warrior > Warlock >>> Hunter >>>>>> Priest
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Reminder that you will never rape Jeff Probst.
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>>145146645
shaman is on par with paladin, besides the 7/7 and master of evolution the shaman is poor for arena

>>145146809
youre living in the past, rogue is insanely good right now as the average deck becomes shittier and shittier because the key cards are less likely to be drafted
that said mage relies heavely on it's removal to stay relevant in the game and rogue heropower is still there as always so rogue clearly has the upper hand when it comes to arena
warrior is absolutely underrated, it might be one of the hardest classes to play in arena but it surely is very very strong right now, also warrior is the counter for mage and rogue. all you need to do is draft 4-5 weapons (which isnt very unlikely) to make sure you draft at least oen weapon every game and focus your list on early game
paladin overrated because of the powerhouse it was in previous expansions, youll get there eventually
warlock same story as warrior its and underrated hard to draft arena class
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>>145146445

Their hero power is the best in the brawl.
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Fucking shitters. Its Rogue slight better than Mage >paladin = shaman>warlock>warrior>druid>hunter>priest
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Please link best evolve deck
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>>145147807
>unironically being THIS bad in arena
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>>145148069
make an aggro shaman list and name it evolve. That is the best evolve deck
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>>145148138
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>>145148301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHt4NOF3b4g

educate yourself, I bet you dont even average over 6 wins lmao
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>>145148409
>Kripp
He is nothing but a someone that rarely misplays (which is not by any means hard) and complains all the time about everything and everyone even though he gets free wins most of the time because of him name. Warrior needs fiery waraxe/deaths bite/ravaging ghoul to be good and if he doesnt have any of that might aswell through him in the garbage. Also 3 of my last 10 arena runs were 12 wins a couple of them were 10 and im well above 6 average. You educate yourself faggot. Warrior still is bad because arena is mostly about Hero Powers/luck on the draft
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>>145148735
so you're a confirmed shitter, good to know you at least admit it
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blizzard needs to do something about the shadowstep on ridiculous battlecries like the 10 drops and reno
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>>145149181
yes because Reno Rogues are the biggest problem on ladder right now. Get good shitter
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Getting into Hearthstone is kind of daunting. I got through the basic AI, working on the expert AI now and have just been doing my quests. I can't find any up to date, in depth text (!) guides. Any resources I can look at thats good for a new player? Never touched a CCG or TCG in my life.
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>Reno/C'thun memes on ladder

eric, simply eric
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>>145149181
>unironically complaining about meme decks

what the fuck? how about shaman or zoo?
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I remember when /hsg/ thought Standard would kill Zoo.

Instead it only made it even more cancerous. How do we rid ourselves of this virulent metastasis?
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>>145149573
Play a good game instead of HS
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>>145149573
Nerf every minion used in zoo to 1 health and then give every class cheap 1 damage AOE
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>>145149573

>vomit your hand
>go face
>refill with broken hero power
>repeat until enemy is ded

not cancerous at all, I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>145149995
don't forget zoo can easily kill you once you're below 20 hp thanks to based leeroy+PO+soulfire

shit even gives me bad memories of combo druid
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>>145149573
bog creeper is good
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>>145149995
If your deck doesn't play cards until turn 5 it's not zoo to blame that they go face.
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predictions?
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>>145150203

>bog creeper
>implying you'll live until you can play it

protip : you won't.
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>>145150203
Has anyone tried that cyclopian horror or whatever it's called?
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>>145149995

Zoo doesn't go face, it boosts its minions to trade up. Fucking above rank 15 retard. If zoo goes face play a board clear moron.
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>tfw you will never grind your dick on Arathi Weaponsmith's abs
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>>145091292
>>145087329
I think he was never meant to be played competitively and was suppose to be more of a joke card.
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does this fix standard tempo mage
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>>145150806
>play minions then this :^)
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>>145150235
>>145150719

spotted the zooshitters.
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>>145150719

>Zoo doesn't go face

That's rich
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>design Execute so that it costs something else to make it usable
>make another card that is actually twice as good as a normal card to synergize with Execute because ???
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>>145150954
Spotted shaman shitter who is buttlbasted his 477 got dealt with single 1 mana spell :^)
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>>145151151

>implying

If I hate face shitters like you, small chance I play fucking Shaman myself.
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>>145151197
>me always trade! me smarter!
how's rank 20
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Zoo buffs minions to trade up into the opponents face all game and ignore the board. It's aggro-control.
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>>145151331

Please point to the post where I said I "always trade, strawman-kun.
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>>145120984
And here I stand disappointed in myself if I don't reach rank 5 every season
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>>145150987

Zoo is designed around strangleholding the board early, and they do this by making insane trades with power overwhelming, abusive sergeant, and other buffs and then trading into their opponents minions. They do this because the warlock hero power allows them to value board control way over card efficiency.

Anyway it's not a face deck. You're very bad if you think zoo is a face deck.
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just went 1-3 with this deck
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>>145151396

I guess some people can't appreciate the subtle difference between going face from turn 1 and securing board control at turn 2 and THEN going face.
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>>145150272

4-0 right now, poor shaman insta-conceded from this wombo
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>>145151652

Thanks for clarifying to him for me. Fucking zooshitters.
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>>145151652

And the average rank you finish the season at is?

Yes, if you have no minions on board, zoo goes face, but that's not a face deck retard. A face deck is like old face hunter which was incentivized to go face almost no matter what due to high amounts of spell burn and their hero power.

Zoo can't do that. They can't play like an aggro shaman where they try to do 20 face damage fast and then when you regain board they just double lava shock you, all of Zoo's burst potential requires board control because if you have taunts in the way you block the doomguards or the leeroy, but you can't block shit if you're 4/6 taunt minion gets traded for their 2/2 with power overwhelming.
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>>145151396
zoo only makes trades with temporary buffs because they're favorable. It is aggro not control because a control deck trades with its base stats.
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>tfw you harambe a bm'ing rogue and he instantly concedes a turn after

This brawl sucks, but it has had its moments.
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>>145151884

Aggro and face are different deck concepts. Zoo is not a face deck, it's absolutely an aggro deck as it seeks to rush down the board as fast as possible, which is the hallmark of an AGGRESSIVE deck.

Shaman decks are also aggressive but their deck design does not reward going face (as face hunter did) because if a shaman loses board control it never gets it back and has to either kill you with burn/doomhammer (if you're low enough) or lose the game completely.
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>>145151879

>if you're 4/6 taunt minion gets traded for their 2/2 with power overwhelming.

If the 4/6 didn't have taunt would you still power overwhelming to kill it? or save it for a 15 face damage turn kill

now again, is zoolock a face/agro deck
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whose dick do i have to suck to draw a fucking backstab
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>>145152078
>make this post
>get it literally first draw next game
every time
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evens I try climbing a rank
odd I go to bed while watching arrested development
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>>145152014
Yes everyone knows when you have more burn=charge minions you can go face more. It's not a face deck because you made favorable trades with your temporary buffs so your bigger minions can survive to connect with face. everyone knows this. you're not saying anything
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>>145152078

been winstreaking with miracle at rank 11, it's funny because you either have SI:7/Backstab in your opening hand or you just die.
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>>145152078
you can only draw it from fan of knives
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This whole debate is fucking pointless, saying "it's not face, it's aggro!" is like saying "it's not lung cancer, it's colon cancer!"
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>>145152074
>>145152074
>>145152074
>>145152074
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>>145152286
it's like they never saw the SMOrc video
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>>145151879
>Zoo can't do that

Leeroy + 2-4 PO
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>>145151879
>Zoo can't do that. They can't play like an aggro shaman where they try to do 20 face damage fast

The fuck are you smoking?
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>>145152430

his whole argument is "b-but taunts!" as if Zoo can't get rid of ANY taunt with minimal mana expense, all you need is one PO/abusive and your tentacle suddenly kills almost anything.
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>>145152198

No, everyone doesn't know that; people in this thread are calling zoolock a face deck and saying that the way zoo plays is:

>vomit its hand and go face

When in reality what zoo does is:

>vomit its hand
>make the most efficient trades due to minions boosting effects
>replenish hand with hero power
>win due to opponents inability to get anything to stick to the board

>>145152074

>or save it for a 15 face damage turn kill

I laddered to legend last season and played a shitload of games vs zoo, the versions that actually attempt to store up their PO's for a 15 damage kill were so rare I never once encountered them. And yes, I played zoo a lot and lost a lot of games to zoo. The overwhelming prevalence of Zoo at rank 2/1 forced me to switch off of midrange hunter which had a TERRIBLE matchup vs zoolock.

But hey, instead of bitching on hsg I just rolled a different deck with a fair matchup vs zoo and hit legend, unlike any of you idiots who say zoo is a mindless face deck. Go play it yourself then, it's cheap.
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>>145152074
not the same guy but youre retarded. zoo is aggro, but it is not face. yes it hits the face a lot, but it clears the board first.
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I'm L I T E R A L L Y going to craft Sogoth as the last addition to my greedy as fuck control warrior and ramp druid lists.

CAN'T STOP ME
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>>145152360

Did you even read my fucking post? Leeroy could be buffed to a 400/2 minion and if there's a single taunt in his way he's not killing anybody.

That's not true for kill command, quickshot, lava shock, pyroblast, fireball, flame torch, frostbolt and icelance.

>>145152490

What the fuck are you talking about? That's literally my entire point. Zoo is effective because they control the board with shit tier minions and then BOOST them to kill expensive/powerful taunts so they can kill their opponents. They do not ignore their opponents minions to go face, allow their opponent to clear their board and then play taunts on an empty board when there aren't shitty little zoo minions who can buffed to kill them.

I'm not saying zoo is weak, fucktard, I'm saying zoo is not primarily a face deck.
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>>145152568

>zoo is aggro, but it is not face
this is it, the newest hsg meme
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>>145152650
well done senpai, that card is the nail in the coffin for aggroshitters
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>>145152498
>make the most efficient trades due to minions boosting effects
it only trades when it has temporary buffs. and uses juggles to clear thing son the board

the whole joke of the SMOrc video was how dumb the strategy is because you don't need to account for the stats of enemy minions. You're arguing like there is some significant brain power because it's not absolutely brain dead as in the old arcane golem hunter decks when the only reason you're not going face is to let other minions go face.
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>>145152702
t. mouthbreader
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>>145152702
are you actually this retarded? aggressive decks dont have to be face decks. they are two different things
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>>145152498
>>145152659

Also, before you all continue to claim I'm some zoo player I don't have imp gang boss and can't play a top tier zoo deck for that reason. Zoo is also my most hated ladder deck to play against in almost all cases and nothing makes me angrier than the interactions I have to deal wth when playing against zoo. I wish it didn't exist, but that still doesn't mean that it:

>vomits its hand and goes face

That's just dumb, and if you think it's that simple I'd like to see your top legend finishes, or any legend finishes, or even rank 5 finishes.
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>>145152749

It trades when it can make good trades. Like most decks when they have board control, but UNLIKE SPECIFICALLY FACE DECK.

Face decks try to kill you by dealing damage to your face as quickly as possible. Zoo is not a face deck and zoo very rarely actually KILLS their opponents before turn seven or eight, though often the game is totally over by that point, even if the opponent has like 20 hp left. If you're out of taunts, out of board clears and your only avenue of play is to raw drop a minion onto a board with 5/6 zoo shits on it then you've lost, regardless of your HP total.
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face or aggro it's still fucking cancer, it doesn't make any difference.

Unless you're saying that it requires more brainpower to operate it, in which case I'm willing to concede that for Zoo you have to have at least an IQ of 80 as opposed to aggro shaman's 60.
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>>145152702

All fucking decks win the game by hitting you in the face, so all decks are face decks, right?

Fucking moron, learn something about the game. A face deck is like face shaman that just tries to hit you to about 15 and then draw into burn/doomhammer so you lose while you still need to clear THEIR minions.

Zoo clears YOUR important minions very efficiently because they don't have to worry about card advantage due to the warlock hero power, they just need good mana efficiency, which all their cheap, fucking, dudes have in abundance, especially when they can be buffed.
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>>145152286
>I have to definte what is cancer and what not
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>>145153003

Show me your top legend finishes then retard. If it's so easy why haven't you ever actually seen any results playing zoo, or aggro shaman, or similar?

There's a lot of decision making with every deck. That's why there are players who never hit rank 15, or rank 5, and players who always finish in top 100 legend.
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>professional HS player weighs in on ZOO and whether it takes skill or not
>thinks zoo takes the most skill
>but I'm sure the rank 16 shitters on /hsg/ know more than Firebat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEgjqZrpx10
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>>145153151
You stupid fuck don't even dare to compare. The number of decissions a control or combo deck has to make during the course of a game is like 10 times higher than any aggro deck. That's why zoo and face shaman are so easy to pilot.

And not him but I don't get top high legend because grinding ladder with zoo for hours is insanely boring (because it's easy and cheesy, mostly).
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>>145153326

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ju3I42jItw

>zoo is one of the hardest decks to play
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>>145153051
Yes that's what a "face deck" is

You're arguing over someone saying in greentext that zoo vomits minions on board and goes face. It does do that but it is not a "face deck". Learn human communication and how to understand expression via greentxt
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>>145153346

>I don't get legend because it's too easy

Shut the fuck up lol

I've played control a shitload and aggro a shitload and neither is "easy" or "hard" and both rely on a lot of knowledge and intuition.

Playing control vs aggro is the easiest matchup in the game because you generally have only one avenue of acceptable play. Playing aggro vs control is much harder because you have to weigh your risk/reward in playing around control cards and whether you can win or not if you do so.

Control vs control is hard because you need to understand how to get the most value out of every card and the tempo of the game is somewhat abnormal. The decision making is still about the same.
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>>145153487

No it doesn't do that. It doesn't go face. It strangles the board by trading efficiently (which is what you can do with early board control) and make it extremely prohibitive for their opponent to play into the board which causes them to lose.

Zoo does not just go face. It never has, and never will when played by good players.
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>>145153639

>abusive the possessed villager and trade it into Trogg

I am awed and overwhelmed by the sheer amount of skill and decision making this move required, I think Garry Kasparov himself would admit that it's far beyond even Chess Grandmaster level.
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>>145151197

But the most popular and powerful shaman deck right now isn't even a face deck, it's tempo

what the fuck is wrong with you people
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When will Blizzard stop treating its players like children?
>Can't talk to your opponent
>Can't trade cards with friends
>6 out of the 9 classes cannot interact with your opponent AT ALL on their turn
>No hostile discard effects because it "creates hostile space"
>No hostile resource destruction because it "causes mental anguish"
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>>145153535
>Playing control vs aggro is the easiest matchup in the game because you generally have only one avenue of acceptable play.
>Playing aggro vs control is much harder because you have to weigh your risk/reward in playing around control cards and whether you can win or not if you do so.
This is just plain retarded. It's aggro/midrange the deck that most of the time only has one viable play. I've been playing since the beta and I've figured it out for the most part until exhaustion now with more than 5k games on my back over these years.

And don't get me wrong, shitter. I do reach legend, I do not grind with cancer decks for literally hundreds of hours like the top 100 of ladder does.
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>>145151884

>It is aggro not control because a control deck trades with its base stats

what the fuck am I reading
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>>145153852

You could very easily break any play in hearthstone down into something simple like that and make fun of it, and yet some players finish tp 100 legend every season and some finish rank 17 every season. There's a reason for that, there's also a reason there are professional poker players and professional MTG players. Do you honestly think those people have no skill and are all just consistently lucky all the time?
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Holy shit I'm so fucking SICK of fedora warriors. Give me a deck that makes those time wasters cry
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>>145153639
it's very simple zoo plays a 1/1 with two lives the other player plays a 2/3 the zoo plays an abusive to trade into it and one of the warlock 1 drops and that sums up how a zoo trades. It's very simple.

Your problem is that you are unable to distinguish the statements "It's a face deck" and "you vomit your minions on the board and go face". With the statement that something is a face deck you expect something like turn 5 kills.
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>>145154005

Any Shaman rekts warriors so hard it's not even funny. Except it kind of is.
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>>145153916
https://youtu.be/pyjDMPTgxxk?t=2660
>We do a lot of balance for emotion, instead of high level balance thoughts
>Emotional response is very strongly negative, we heard a lot of people complaining
>We looked at the numbers, it was just fine
>We actually just increased the cost of the card significantly
THIS is why Priest is so shitty?
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Is this aggro or control?
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>>145153926

Well that's true, midrange often has very narrow avenues of correct play as well. In control vs aggro specifically you are usually pigeonholed into making the strongest "control" plays from turn 1. It doesn't take a genius to play tunnel trogg into totem golem into coin feral spirits, but it also doesn't take a genius to drop auchenai soulpriest/circle on 4 or make obvious Nova/EE plays.

Playing the control side of control vs aggro is easier than the aggro side because you have one single way to win the game and it's always correct to play in the same way. You lose if you don't draw the right cards, not if you play them wrong (usually).

You can argue that control vs control is harder in general than anything aggro decks have to deal with, and it might be true. At top level the deck archetype isn't "easy" or "hard" though, it all comes down to player skill.
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>>145153980
a control plays a 1/4 and trades into 2/1s
an aggro deck buffs the 2/1 to trade into the 3/4 taunt
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>>145154180

for some reason I hate it when a Zoo plays Mortal Coil because I never expect it from a Zoo and I don't play around it so it always gets me with my pants down.
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>>145154148
It was talking about mind control, forgot to mention that.
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>>145154180
Neither, it's a meme.
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>>145154012

no... I expect something that ignores the board and prioritizes face, not something that ignores face and prioritizes board... like fucking zoo.
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>>145154180
A mess
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>>145153003

>not allowed to play aggro because bitches complain about brainless face plays
>not allowed to play control because bitches complain about too much removal and long games
>not allowed to play combo because bitches complain about lack of interactivity
>not allowed to play tempo because that means playing shaman (bitches moaning about 4 mana 7/7) or warrior (bitches implying about fedoras)

Tell me HSG, is there a reasonably competitive deck that you can accept people playing?
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>>145154192
>In control vs aggro specifically you are usually pigeonholed into making the strongest "control" plays from turn 1

Execute a voidwalker and see what happens with your game. Or use AOE just to clear an imp. Exactly, you're going to lose beacuse your statement is wrong. The control pilot has to measure how much dmg he can take, how greedy he can be with removal, etc. If you play entire for tempo (aka literally impacting the board in your favor as much as you can every turn) you're gonna end up losing to the bigger threats every aggro deck plays (face hunter being the exception).
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>>145154525

I can't speak for all of /hsg/ but personally I have no problem with decks that are not autopilot, like Miracle, Freeze , Renolock, basically any deck that requires you to think and decide instead of LEL COUNCILMAN INTO TENTACLES YOU LOSE.
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>>145154213

this just in, control doesn't play any removal spells or buff/debuff cards but only plays big minions and trades. Real men play pure Green with no spells in M:tG, anything less is faggotry
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>2 mana 3/4 into 4 mana 5/5 into 4 mana 7/7
FUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU
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>>145154525
-Cancer tier
Aggro
Tempo

-Babby's first deck
Midrange
C'thun

-Bro tier
Renolock
Ramp druid
Self made meme-ish deck

-I actually play this game tier
Freeze mage
Miracle rogue
Control
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>>145154605

Well obviously no deck can win if they make horrible plays and every deck has horrible potential plays.

I dunno if executing a voidwalker can even be accomplished on turn 1, or if it could ever be considered "the strongest possible control play" (on turn 1), since control implies getting good value out of your removal and resources and planning ahead for what your opponent can and will throw at you.

>The control pilot has to measure how much dmg he can take, how greedy he can be with removal, etc

Yes, mostly true against other control decks. Against aggro decks you are often in a position where only one line of play doesn't lead to your death and that line of play is often board clears. Against control you need to really value everything out because that's where you win or lose the game. Against aggro you win or lose by surviving or not surviving until you can stabilize and outvalue them with lategame or whatever your win condition is. In this case it tends to be card quality and not decision making which leads to a "hard" game against aggro. Right now it's hard for a lot of control decks to beat aggro shaman, not because the decision making involved is hard, but because the shaman decks are so strong that it's hard to win games with control decks.
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>>145154654

That's you, but trust me, plenty of HSG has plenty of problems with miracle and freeze. Renolock might be as close as we can come to an unobjectionable deck but some fucker will always be around to complain about Reno, and about control in general for dragging games out and wasting their time.
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>>145154654

>freeze mage

Freeze mage is a faggoty single player deck that wins automatically if they draw the correct sequence of cards at the right time and loses in the stupidest fashion if they don't, in either case with next to no input from the other player.

It's the most frustrating bullshit deck to play against for this reason.
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>>145154924
>>145154980

(see)
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Warlock don't clear shit except taunt. They do that and go face with the rest even if you have 3 other minions on the board. Stop making shit up facefuckers.
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>>145155080

What's your point? Lots of people have problems with freeze mage because it's an aggravating deck to play against since you win or lose based on what cards your opponent draws and not on plays you make yourself. Even if you win the game it's BS, and most people don't like it.
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>>145154898
Let's say you're playing control warrior and you go turn 1 pass, enemy zoo plays voidwalker pass and now you're at turn 2 with whilrwind and excecute in hand. According to your logic you should play those 2.

Get over it you're not going anywhere saying control is easier to play than aggro lmao.
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>>145155124

Thanks for the report from rank 18 pal!
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>>145155210

But top HS players agree with me, and I addressed your stupid shit in my last post but you were too dumb to read it I guess.

>I dunno if executing a voidwalker can even be accomplished on turn 1, or if it could ever be considered "the strongest possible control play" (on turn 1), since control implies getting good value out of your removal and resources and planning ahead for what your opponent can and will throw at you.
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>>145155317
Whatever makes you happy. I think you don't even read your own shit yourself because you've said some really really really stupid stuff besides control is easy to play.
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>>145155160

No, I was just pointing out to the other guy that there's plenty of butthurt to go around when it comes to freezemage. I'm not trying to engage with your prejudices, don't worry
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>>145155495

Like what? I'm a multiple time legend finisher with fucking

>control priest
>midrange shaman
>midrage hunter
>ramp druid

And you're more than likely a perennial rank 14 fedora warrior.
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>>145155527

>butthurt

I haven't been tracking but I think my win rate against freeze mage this season and last season is pretty decisively in my favour. You don't need to lose to a deck to think it's pretty faggoty.

Miracle rogue I have no problem with.
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>>145155725
I've played this game more than you and I've reached legend more times than you, sorry pal you don't even get that one.
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>>145156018

Okay well here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ju3I42jItw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEgjqZrpx10

Firebat is also stupid and you are also better than him.
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>>145156209

not that guy but Firebat should never have been world champion, he just fluked.
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>>145156209
So you were just sputing shit you heard instead of self made thoughts. And I'm not questioning firebat until I watch the videos but you sure are the kind of retard that netdecks and plays midrange to legend. You're as cluesless as it gets.
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>>145156335

He's still a professional level player who has more credentials than anyone posting in /hsg/. If you can just say he's stupid for saying the exact same shit I've been saying then okay... whatever lol.
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>>145156423

>self made thoughts

This is how a retard expresses himself. Someone who doesn't read or understand how knowledge is gained or transferred. Yes I'm choosing to defer to Firebat considering what I've seen of zoo play. I dob't consider it a face deck because in practice it's not a face deck, and I don't consider it easy to play because there are lots of particulars.

Most people don't just go "self make thoughts" when they fire up hearthstone and flip through the card collection making up random decks. That's retarded. Just like more or less all art from the past informs art made today, in the present. People don't just put "self made thoughts" into books or paintings too often either you dumb bitch .

>netdecks

Yes

>plays midrange to legend

I have, yes

>clueless

Compared to really good players, yes, compared to /hsg/? Not at all.
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>>145156435

Heh, fair enough I guess.

Doesn't change the fact that playing against Zoo is fucking obnoxious and I hate it with a passion.
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>>145156698

I agree. I said earlier in my thread that the interactions I have to experience playing against zoo are my least favourite in the entire game.
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>tfw youre forced to rope your oppnent to give him time to think about how lucky he got this game
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>>145157035

>yfw he was probably alt tabbing while watching The Walking Dead and getting his dick sucked and he never even spared you a second thought
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>>145054626
Nobody uses them even at lower ranks anyway, it's all netdecks that don't run them.
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>>145156435
>>145156653

So now that I've watched the videos and considering firebat is known and made himself a name in the scene by being an "aggro specialist" I think his opinion is biased. Firebat is a good player but didn't deserve the title of world champion. Even he says himself in the video that he's a minority for thinking aggro takes more skill than control. So professional scene as a whole disagrees with you.

>Compared to really good players, yes, compared to /hsg/? Not at all.
So you're saying I'm bad because I'm posting here but the same principle could be applied to yourself so fuck off with that.

Sorry but it is better to have your own opinion instead of copying someone just because he's and authority. I've seen and played countless games, watched many talks and I'm basing my opinion on not only my experience but also what the good guys at the game say. Unlike me, you're just repeated what some dude said because he's good.
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>>145157182
he still loses if he is forced to watch the walking ded
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>>145157323

>implying normies think TWD is bad

They eat it up and ask for seconds.
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>>145157259
It doesn't apply to me retard because I say what Firebat says and you spout your retarded opinions from shitter ranks. Fuck off.
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>drafted a deck with all the neutrals to make it a basic deck in arena
>faced against constructed level decks

Just lovely.
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>>145157259

I agree with firebat because what he's saying corroborates with my own experience playing hearthstone, and I added the caveat that control is easier than aggro in one specific matchup (control vs aggro).

You're the one who thinks I'm shitting on control and I'm not. My favourite class and only golden portrait is Priest.
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where can i reduce the cost of my cards by 1-2 mana to make it fair?
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>>145157518

I am convinced that to amass 500 wins with priest you need to be a sadistic sociopath who enjoys causing others pain and suffering.
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>>145157570

I'd recommend committing your spirit to the POWER OF RAGNAROS.
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>>145157419
Not gonna screencap my legend cardback just for you, kys.

>>145157518
You're free to think whatever you're still wrong. And I'm a control autist but not a faggot who plays priest.
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>>145157753

First guy you quoted there isn't me, he's just some faggot.

Priest is the most fun class, deal with it.
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MIGRATE WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE IT
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>>145158228
>>145158228
>>145158228
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>hunter has three 1/1s and a 4/3
>arcane missles hits the 4/3 twice and his face once
Absolutely ebin.
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why does every general tend to make new thread so soon before it even reaches the cap
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dead game
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>>145154148
What a fucking joke. Never thought Blizz would buckle to faggy crybabies. smdhtbfhfam
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