/ss13g/ Spessmen on a Spess Station General

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>Fruit cakes in discord

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purple skelememes

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ayytists

Explain me the surprise

>>144944136
pomf mails us lasagna

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plant niggers

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pox

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>>144944230

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>>144943801
let the clown spread like wildfire throughout you

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>he doesn't play Janitor

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and finally
the magnificent master race that are humans

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bonus: catbeast

>>144944704
"aliens"

>>144944762
t. nekotoxin lobbier

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>>144944558

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Thicc xenos

Welp, I got the the arm blades all coded now. Going to test it tomorrow, feedback requested.

https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/10458

>>144946782
>thunderthighs are attractive
wow your pretty good @ memes dude

SECURITY DREAM TEAM

HOS: RAY DUBI
WARDEN: RAY DUBI
SECURITY OFFICER: RAY DUBI
DETECTIVE: ALSO RAY DUBI

>>144947372
Stop shilling yourself, Ray.

>fail horribly as AI
>have to stop playing for the night out of shame

>>144943684
>exactly the same "last time on ss13"
>cute anime girl picture completely unrelated to spess (inb4 some staticnamer's alter ego)
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>NOT A WORD ABOUT OUR SERVER BEING THE FIRST ONE HAVING FUCKING PARALLAX
>not a word about the new lighting

spessmen have declined.

>>144947648
First one to have true parallax.
Paradise had a "parallax" wherein space turfs would just not move, which is what inspired Dylan to make his version, which is what inspired Deity to make his version, which Clusterfack fixed up.

>>144947648
No one actually cares about your laggy feature

>>144947849
It doesn't lag anymore since Clusterfack optimized it.

>>144947805
>Paradise had a "parallax"

Nope, they still haven't merged it.
https://github.com/ParadiseSS13/Paradise/pull/4085

Because they were actually waiting for our superior version to be fully operational, and port our port instead.

>>144947910
Too bad ours won't be truly fully operational until Lummox fixes SEE_PIXELS to not fuck everything up
At least he admitted that this isn't intended behavior. Better than we got last time we reported a bug.

>>144947910
>Paradise is going to port a fixed up version of a remake of a port of a PR that originally was theirs

>>144947882
no one actually cares about your buggy feature

>>144948210
Well, I do, but personally I think it should be reverted until SEE_PIXELS is fixed so we aren't stuck with broken mesons and right-clickable darkness

FREE VLADORF

So why was Bustatime banned?

>>144948668
I mean... his ban expires tomorrow...

>>144948973

has it really been a month?

been up to so much shit since I stopped playing SS13.

Either way, a 1 month ban for accidentally bumping into a guy is a bullshit ban.

I'll be back in a few days!

Porting is slow work

So many little differences between servers

Seeing more than 200 errors is discouraging sometimes, but in some ways it is a relief to slowly work through them. Thirty here, twenty there. It will be done in time.

>>144950142
What are you porting?

>>144950314
Ayy game mode from TG

I didn't like their implementation of glands though. There's no reason to have a snowflake surgery for it or even to have it as a subtype of organ. You can just use the current implant surgery we have now and have them process inside regardless.

TG has all kinds of little differences as to how they spawn atmos, handle vomit, and even interact with machines. It adds up to a lot of work. They have action datums which are cool but would be a ton of work to port, so I have to hack the functions back into our code.

What the FUCK is a somatoray?

>>144951360
Your choice of mad gains or mutations for plant

Useful as a botanist

IS SERBIAN DEDED

>>144951758
you can always view server status on wiki frontpage

>ctrl+f
>no mention of you're waifu
This is how you know she is pure.

>>144951909

YOUR WAIFU A SHIT

YOU HEAR ME?!?!

A SHIT!!!

name her now, in front of the world, and I can tell you every single way she is a shit.

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>Do something.
>Suddenly anything out of my view is space.

Thanks Parallax.

Did the RD suck off the clown and incinerate him?

>>144951909
>you will never be a waifu

JACK THE RD'S PRINTS WERE ON THE FUCKING MURDER WEAPON AND YOU JUST LET HIM GO

THERE'S NO WAY YOU DIDN'T KNOW

WHY
H
Y

>>144952731
HE PUT ME IN THE FUCKING MORGUE

THE

MORGUE
O
R
G
U
E

>>144952731
I sucked him off in Xenobio and then just put him in the morgue

>couple rounds ago
>roll traitor Doctor
>break into secure armory from spess and steal my objective
>BYOND lags out as I'm escaping and I fly into the void

I WAS SO CLOSE TO FINALLY GETTING GREENTEXT

LIVE

>>144953004
Were you using parallax by any chance? I noticed that when I space walk it randomly freezes or slows the performance down

>>144947372
Do powergamers work like they do on /tg/? Grab chem implants first thing and stuff their pockets full of laser guns?

>>144953580
Not exactly.

>>144953286

Parallax is when black tiles look like space, right? If yes, my game was on parallax that round. I didn't set it or anything, and I couldn't figure out how to fix it.

>>144953614
Do tell
Haven't played in ages, was battling every other round w/ one of the Hippy station admins who powergames like a madman and murders as many people as he can when he rolls traitor.
It was actually quite fun though.

>>144953701
You want like a run down on all the ways that people powergame or something?

Because I could tell you how to powergame.

>>144952792
Well one, he had a solid point when he said that he could have touched those science toolboxes at any time.

And two, the clown had a bunch of the captain's shit, so either he was a shittler or a traitor, and either way I couldn't care less who offed him.

>>144952712
nice filename friend

>>144954092
>Well one, he had a solid point when he said that he could have touched those science toolboxes at any time.

Yeah if there were additional prints and fibers on the toolboxes that would suggest somebody else had used it as a weapon, and if you had another suspect with strong evidence I could see someone making the case there isn't enough evidence, but there was plenty of evidence there that you should have been able to figure it out.

>And two, the clown had a bunch of the captain's shit, so either he was a shittler or a traitor, and either way I couldn't care less who offed him.
>selectively solving crimes based on who the victim was as sec

Yeah that's probably the wrong attitude.

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>>144954552
>not selectively solving crimes based on who the victim is.

Do you even shitcurity?

>>144954651
>willfully letting the security of the station be compromised by someone who has the capacity to kill dozens of people and has proven that they are capable of murder because the clown had the nuke disk and spare ID on a latejoin captain round

just
wew

tfw >heard by 0 non-AFK admins.

sarah you cunt I had you in the palm of my hand too

>>144956362
admins haven't been replying to me at all recently
baka

>>144956382
Henk. Best part is that's 100% legit under asimov.

>>144943365
>lag
unless its goon
>grafics
what wrong with ss13 grafics?

>>144943684
>waifushit in op
cancer killing general

>>144957421
It seems to be the current fad.

hello, i just recently found out about this game. All the different stations make my head hurt, why should I play vg server over something like /tg/ or goonstation.

Being able to toggle off the new lights when?

>>144952757
10/10

>>144956382
hi sj

>>144953969
Teach me the ways

>>144959008
/tg/ is a murder house deathmatch. You're going to be dealing with so many people who don't actually do their jobs, and instead rush to get the closest weapons then beat down as many people as they can.

There's so much murderboning from nonantags it hurts. /tg/ is also filled with lizard players who spawn a role, take the ID, throw off their clothes so they can be naked scalefags, and then refuse to do their job or use the bare minimum their access gives to get whatever weapons they can and then run off to kill the captain in "protest" of Lizard treatment.

>>144959008
You can play on all three, no need to stick to one server at all times.

>>144959932
I personally enjoy playing on all fours while Intigracy behind me uses his banhammer to punish shitters

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>>144960810

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>>144944004
>Show me where in the rules it says crabs cant emag each other
Right here in your silicon ban appeal!
Haha, maybe you didn't quite read it :)

>>144959008
/vg/station is my main one, still not sure why tee bee aych

/tg/ isn't actually 4chan related and has a huge number of <18 year olds (so does ours but at least they hide it)

Hippie station has sort of the same community as vg, but it's larger, the admins are less friendly, and the players have a murderboning problem.

Goonstation is basically Reddit: the server.

Yogstation is goonstation with less people, more ARPEE, and a shittier community

Colonial marines is actually really fun, mainly because of how different it is. The admins are bad, but the player base is diverse enough that you'll find some non autists to metafriend

>>144961237
>no longer
It's still in keeper until after it's emagged though
It just means once you emag it you can't do anything to it.

>>144961659
...Yes, that's exactly what it says there
The point is that you can't tell it to emag you, which is what you did

special trade offer: erp for no erp

hmu
t. science waifu

>>144962612
>you did
Not him, just clarifying it for myself.
>you can't tell it to emag you
That wasn't made clear from the post, in which case it's equivalent to an AI/borg asking someone to change their laws. Which you should have said to begin with.
This is probably the reason you shouldn't post about bans/ban appeals in an anonymous general by the way.
t. Sawbones

>>144962985
>erp for no erp
So you want to facesit or have someone under your desk, trying your hardest to ignore it while you work on your research? That's fine

>>144963156
>That wasn't made clear from the post
How is directly asking another being to do something for you NOT interacting
>This is probably the reason you shouldn't post about bans/ban appeals in an anonymous general by the way.
Why, because your dumbfuck ass may not get it? Big loss.

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>>144963532
>still posting

Speaking of spess games System Shock 2 is free on GoG if you want a good Space game

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Was just .dmi diving, and found we've got an alternate sprite for the bloodred hardsuit.

Which is better, our current (on the left) or the unused one (On the right)?

>>144962985
special offer: will waifu for hugs and heart messages, chatting too.

>>144963874
I like the way the lights are on the helmet on the left, but I like the rest of the hardsuit on the right

>>144963874

Left, slick and formfitting. Fits the helmet's style.

>>144944704
that's cute as fuck

I don't like how NT is seemingly the only big company in ss13, it controls the station, has centcomm and is so powerful it can just bluespace artillery anything on the station in an instant, and never miss the intended target.

Admins should stop abusing the lol bluespace cannot button, it makes no sense that NT has this technology and doesn't use it against confirmed hostiles like wizards, syndicates or revs.

Also there should be obvious advertisements for other companies, make it feel like the universe is actually more than just nanotrasen and the syndicate with different companies, maybe turn the station into a jointly owned station, with various companies owning/supplying various parts of the station. Perhaps medbay was built by a medical company, and so on the station products/chems not used by that company is illegal as they'd want only their stuff being used.


go back to bay you polarisnerd

>>144963874
Right

>>144964427
Here's the thing - If centcomm doesn't act all-knowing, people will moan

If centcomm does act all-knowing, people will moan.

If centcomm does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, people will moan.

So sod off and buy some discount dans.

>>144964646
If the admins do all three it's even worse. One route should just be selected and enforced.

>>144964427
You never noticed that Donk Pockets are made by another company? And they're part of the Syndicate at that matter.

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>>144964427
Just come up with some head canon bruh.
CentComm is just The Cabin in the Woods all over again, except the people watching over the station get a good laugh at the misery of the station, they're just appeasing their own boredom. They don't interfere because then it'd be boring, if they do interfere it's because they want to spice up the round. You can justify a lotta stuff in a lotta ways.

>>144964759
Yeah, there's very few things like those and discount dan's that show other companies exist. But they're very low-key and aren't anything of importance.

>>144964914
I'd like there to be just a set lore, even if players don't really know it all. I'd just want admins to all do their adminevents in such a way that it all fits together, and aren't just one off memes that contradict one another and lore.
Muh lore is important.

>>144963874
Polaris hardsuits when?

>>144965170
It's there, you just have to go deep into the code to find it. Don't blame me if you need to look for a while first.

>>144963874
Left, not just because it's the current one but because it's less cluttered. If the right one was added for the squad leader, that would be fine and flavorful

>>144965203
Polaris ling when?

>>144965375
Polaris when?

>>144965375
>>144965203
if you like polaris so much why dont you just play there and stop trying to change this shit for no reason?

>>144965504
>no reason
>hardsuit port would mean we get ninja
>implying ling doesn't suck and cantthinofaname isn't trying to fix it by only porting their arm blade for some reason

>>144965170
That's impossible to organise, and results in an autistic constriction around admin activity, and eventually player fun in a way.

If anything it's supports the idea of hard round resets where no one remembers anything from a past round because we're all clones on a testing ground.

>>144965636
gb2 polaris

>>144965636
Their ling is pretty much identical to ours, actually. Apart from the arm blade and the "instant space suit" power, they're all but identical.

>>144966101
nigga are you serious
http://ss13polaris.com/wiki/doku.php?id=game:guides:changeling

>>144966218
nigga if you want to play polaris's features then leave and play on polaris lmao like cmon dude
you stupid or something lol

>>144966218
uh I'm a real coder and I take offense that you'd doubt something I'd tell you especially when I deigned to even come to 4chan and find this thread through all the pages 1 to 7 looking for ss13 so delete that post and use polaris if you dont like my code that much

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what if you didn't need a breathing mask to turn on internals if you had a spacesuit helmet or such

>>144966218
Most of the other powers either only work because of ARE PEES, are redundant, or are just shit.

Seriously, do you really think cryo sting would work with our hypothermia? It would be a dozen times worse than parasting by far.

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>>144966764
>polaris cryosting is the problem
>not our hypothermia code

>>144966218
>power that makes you completely immune to plasma and removes need to breathe

Oh boy, I sure do love being plasmaflooded.

>>144966764
>our hypothermia
Oh yeah!
We can remove that, no biggie

>>144966879
But we already have that it's called subverted borgs/atmos hardsuits/plasmamen (nonantag) and it happens 9/10 times

>>144966875
if you want to play sonic the hedgehog you dont put in tombraider
play on polaris if you want to play polaris's features and gamemodes

>>144962985

Think you can split them?

>>144967004
Enough bait pls

Thank you based greytiders for that fine cut of pseudo-extended hell.

>>144965636
>Want to do horror ling maint monster gimmick next time I get ling
>Can't even suck and it costs an outrageous amount of genomes after which I still have no supporting powers
>I'm supposed to terrorize the vendors or something cause nobody that cares is still alive
He's a fag

Holy shit that round
Fuck greytide, from now on I'm spacing clown if he gives me shit like that

>>144966875
You go try convincing Celt to fix it then, I'm trying to do something that's at least theoretically possible.

>>144967102
not even trying to bait you homie
just go back to polaris because you i and everyone else knows that you crying for our server to just have all of polaris's code because you want to play on polaris isnt going to do anything

>>144967134
That's what you're supposed to do. You should have killed all three of them.

>>144967134
also
>try not to be powergaming shitcurity and only start with stuns and brig by the books
>fuckers greytide even more

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>>144967146
But paralax doesn't even work and the station lighting still looks like foggy trash so what could you be working on?

>>144966994
But do you really want that to become a 10/10 now?

In any event, other than the e arm blades what are the absolute must-haves you would want ported/remade here?

>>144967146
The (two) bugs that were reported with hypothermia on the github are fixed. I can't find any others.

>>144967320
lings need more tools to not get fucked over sideways by silicons that don't include "lol i upload onehuman haha ebIN"
in case it wasn't clear enough, the fact that they get fucked over sideways by silicons directly leads to "lol i upload onehuman haha ebIN"

>>144967539
So the EMP generation power ?

>>144967669
kind of, but EMPs are kind of ass and they're more reliably used to drain energy guns and such than try to disable borgs

>tfw no catbeast gf to embrace seconds before you're both incinerated

>>144967753
So what do you suggest? There's another power they have that acts like a flash on borgs, but it seems a little too similar to a vampire screech in most of its other properties.

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>>144964427
Actually, the little lore we have dictates that NT started with medical stuff, so medbay is theirs
Science would be theirs too, NT is here for the plasma

Maybe, engineering could have been hired from another, supplying company; except engines often run on plasma, which is NT tech.
Service, including Supply, would be a fuckton little supplying companies, no point in defining any of those.

If you really want two major companies present, it'd have to be NT and whoever supplies all the sec officers and gear... which right now is probably Centcomm, which is NT.

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Is starting as a Borg a good way to train myself? Or should I just greenhorn it as an assistant? Also, how's being a test subject/monkey tend to play out?

>>144969491
Personally I really just want security to be an independently contracted group, I find corporate security on a space station really cool for some reason.

>>144969652
Don't start as silicon.

>>144969652
Depends how literal minded you are.
Your laws are EVERYTHING.
There is no such thing as crime, there are laws.
There is no such thing as access, there are laws.
There is no such thing as rank, there are laws.

>>144969652
Just do an easy job like janitor or cargo technician, don't be a greyshitter.

>>144969652
Don't start as a Borg. Start as an assistant for one round just to learn the controls, then move on to cargo tech. After a couple rounds there, try out all the jobs to see what you like and don't like. You shouldn't play borg until you have a fairly basic knowledge of everything in the game.

>>144969659
>an independaently contracted group
>not five

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F_ZgYEI2hQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2nNia1nJoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WF6MtoU6iU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZmXj8_m9Eg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN9WWfxjrqo

>>144944523
>nothing to do early in the game when people haven't died

>>144970312
Replace lights with high efficiency version and pester people to let you into high-security areas to clean up cobwebs and dirt so you can get ULTRA CLEAN STATION.

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>>144969697
>>144970050
>>144970071
>>144970129
Ah k, I heard the laws can get a bit crazy. And I don't wana be part of the notorious gray tide. So I'll try for one of the smaller jobs first

Maybe actually be a useful janitor, if that is actually possible

Still though, monkey business? Is it a thing or will I just get shot the moment I step out of the lab or somethin

>>144970538
play bartender, janitor, cargo tech, assistant, clown, mime.
A lot of those jobs are filled with greytide shitters, move to jobs you find interesting and learn them.

>>144970301
>implying security on /vg/ would ever be more than paul blart mall cop

>>144970538
They are crazy. In any event, new players can't even select to be borgs.

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>tfw you'll never be an admin

>tfw it's a good feel

>>144970301
MGS4 was so awful

>>144970969
>why do I have to kill all the waifus?

Of course /ss13g/ would think MGS4 was bad

>>144970940
So why you are still there, posting, paininass666?

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>>144967539
>>144967753

the main problem is we keep nerfing lings because people get butthurt when they get stung and succ. they whined untill para sting was split into silence and "paralysis" stings. you cant take both at roundstart so you need a way to stun, cuff, and or mute your victim or be outed early. our lings have no way to defend themselves besides stings, which only make it easier to be discovered. "THE MIME STUNG ME CREMATE HIM"

traitors can buy ebow/esword combo at roundstart and litterally kill everyone on the station. 1 ebow bolt, and a few esword hits can kill before they can type, and even if they do manage to say something, the radiation damage muffles their speech or they can just get a signal jammer to stop the cries for help.

but lings are limited to silence sting + makeshift prod/flash + cable cuffs OR para sting + lucky (lag and BYOND ticks) enough to remove headset before they start screaming + cuffs. then they have to fiddle with picking up the victims headset / dropped items, drag the victim somewhere quiet to SUCC for 5 minuets , then dispose of the husk discreetly.

the real problem here is, we keep trying to balance game modes around traitor when we should focus on making game modes more unique. traitors should just be normal humans with access to lots of illegal tools and weapons to complete the objective given by the syndicate.

lings should be horrific alien monsters that plays with its morphology like clay. It should be all but impossible to kill a ling with conventional methods. They should be the most effective killing machines while completely naked.
Ling should be able to ,instead of absorbing, use some genomes to infect and assimilate victims to keep players in round and add new antags. Lings need more ways to survive a fight such as splitting body parts into mobs and ventcrawling away as a headcrab (norris) or maybe some sort of auto-cloner fleshy mass they can make and hide somewhere safe.

>>144947372
>Ray Dubi

lmao, probably the worst security player the server has.

Even worse than Trinity, and that's saying something.

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I had heard bad stuff about bay and catbeasts, but this is too much

>>144972634
TRINITY IS NOT BAD

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>>144970538
You're welcome to try it.

>>144972691
I wish we had more lore like this but not about faggot catbeasts

>>144972380
Fuck off with this 'pls involve everyone' bullshit. We have modes like that already like cult and rev, and people even try to get themselves banned so they don't have to join in.

Why are you so aversed to the idea of a single player having more power than others versus a team of people who have to work together to beat them? That's how the best modes work so far in the game and the same logic applies outside of ss13 in other videogames and table top games.

Making changeling another rev mode will just make it worse than it already is.

>>144972815
What lore do you want written senpai~?

>>144972815
I wish we had a slight lore, but not paragraphs upon paragraphs of autism for every single thing

>>144972691
But that reads like any other lore you'd get with a game, like Elderscrolls or Dragons Dogma or Dragon's Crown

>>144973046
This isn't the Elder Scrolls, this is fucking SS13.

>>144973546
What makes the difference to you that one can have lore and the other doesn't?

>>144970050
>There is no such thing as access, there are laws.
>There is no such thing as rank, there are laws.

Little Bro :c I just allowed the chef into my upload

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>>144972894
yea I knew someone was gona shitpost this. sure their are other modes that convert players into antags, but with lings it should just be an OPTION.

>cult
their man objective is to summon their dark god. they NEED to convert at lest 9 for the ritual. converting isnt their end-goal, papa narnar will convert all of reality for them.

>rev
rev is such a shitty gamemode. whoever is headrev just speed flashes everyone on the station before the assistant even has time to break into the caps office. Its a gamemode that should only work on heavy RP servers that actually respect NT authority and have a reason to overthrow the captain. also the infinite flash of karl marx is poorly implemented. their should be an actual way to willingly convince the crew to join the revolution instead of clicking on their sprite, but again this server hates RP.

>xenos
the only actual argument for "assimilating ling is too simular to other modes"
not an actual gamemode anymore. used by admins to end shit slow rounds like LING kus the ling already has his objectives and is waiting in the bar for shuttlecall and greentext.
xenos still play completely different. Xenos cannot infiltrate the station ling a ling. Xenos have to have a queen/nest they need to protect. xenos need their victims ALIVE in order to make babies. Lots of teamwork is needed to win.

Lings should still be able to fuck over other lings for their precious genomes. If your a solitary ling in a tatorling round it may be better to make a single ling-bro to help divert attention and bail you out in a pinch. If their are already multiple lings, they CAN try to assimilate the entire station at the cost of limiting their ling powers. They could always just eat their own babies to regain the genomes to use in horror form. Assimilation should just a TOOL for lings to survive and cause confusion and parinoia

can we talk about how the post round for cult is too long?
there is a 15 minute wait for round end when the round is essentially over even if the shuttle was already on the way

>>144972743
hi trinity

>>144974976
I'm not trinity

t. player that isn't trinity

>>144975058
Hi again trinity

>>144975118
you're wrong

t. still not trinity

>>144973629
SS13 is a MORPG.
As such, lore has to be dynamic, rather than set in stone and higly defined.

Do you, as a cap, want to learn paragraph upon paragraph of some autist's "A treat on the History and Hierarchies of Nanotrasen throughout the last 10 gorillion years" to remain consistent whenever you want to indulge into roleplay?
Or would you rather have a small, concise piece of lore you can use to make up bullshit on the fly that, with the simple starting limitations remains concise?

>>144975812
>what is FFXIV?

>>144974861
It is. I've previously commented on the same (but not in the GitHub because it didn't really bother me that much).
I don't think the Rise of Nar-sie (Nar-sie? Nar-Sie?) should have a shuttle timer longer than 5 minutes, maybe even 3 minutes.

>>144975812
>Or would you rather have a small, concise piece of lore you can use to make up bullshit on the fly that, with the simple starting limitations remains concise?
this

funniest thing I've heard IC recently:
greyshit: I'm gay
nearby mechanic: Really? I thought we killed all the gays centuries ago

>>144972380
This. It's just making all the modes, mix chloral

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>forget to turn magboots on while mining
>float out to space
>try and throw shit to get back to the asteroid
>fuck up
>ahelp it
>get dragged to nearest structure
>the thing I'm closest to is the fucking derelict
>activate the solar array
>electrocute myself trying to get power back through AI Upload
I mean that was pretty fun, but god damn am I fucking idiot, and I deserve to die the way I did.

>>144976120
What is TERA/Black Desert/WoW/Guild Wars/EVE/LoTR/Blade and Soul/Archeage/Secret World etc etc etc too

>>144972380
I try to do maint monster ling but it's bad outside of highpop cause you can't monkeysuck to get it anymore so you have to kill pretty much all the people you'd terrorize for it. It's stupid.

>>144976423
are mesons fixed?
in the future, find a trader and trade him for a jetpack

>>144976745
Nah they're still broken.

>>144976423
Alt click or ctrl click to remove pen
Throw
Or just throw your pick. Or take an out out of your satchel.

>>144976893
I threw in the wrong direction and ended up and z-level 4.
All I could do was laugh at how bad I am.

But at least I have a better grasp of how wiring works, and how the game works in general.

>>144976423
>stuck on derelict
here is what you do
1. find set of tools
2. go to the chapel mass driver on the west side
3. float south
4. hit teleporter
5. hack the apc, put a power cell in, teleport home

alternatively
1. go to northern most point (solars)
2. float east
3. land on dj sat
4. chill there for the rest of the round while listening to Rock Lobster on repeat

LEAVE CATBEASTS ALONE

>>144961237
So a keeper mommi can emag another keeper mommi ?

What prevents the emag'd mommi from emagging another mommi, and then asking that one to emag the original one ?

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>a dude got a librarian ban
>A LIBRARIAN BAN

>>144963874
Right could be a special armor bought for a few TCs, looks buffer, could be more armored.

Or that
>>144965341

>>144977306
I suppose the original one would be obliged to stop the third one, as it is slaved to the human who emagged it.

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>>144977371
I need to know the deets

>>144961237
why on earth would a keeper mommi be allowed to emag anything

>>144972743
You are right, she is fucking horrible

>>144977591
Sick red eyes. Arguably an aesthetic upgrade

>>144970050
You can choose to follow space law though. You just have to follow your silicons law first, but reporting crimes as AI and arresting criminals who don't order you to let them go is a-ok.

I don't report non-human-related-violent crimes as AI though, because I enjoy watching people fuck themselves over way more than actually helping. Or watch people think they're being sneaky.

>>144977371
I MUST KNOW

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>>144977537
>Permanent

>>144977537
>DrCelt playing a tacticool adminbus inspector
>Librarian 'interrupts' his 'bad ass' moment
>ban 4 greytide 5ever

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>>144977163
I'll keep that in mind the next time.
Thanks.

But still, this entire fucking round.
>I fuck up and end up on derelict
>gibbingtons virus spreading
>SOMEBODY GOT A FUCKING LIBRARIAN BAN
>mfw

>>144966690
That's a good idea actually

CELT TELL US WHAT HAPPENED

>>144977516
I was asking if an unemagged mommi could emag another mommi. There's nothing in their laws stating otherwise. And if it's against the rurus, then a small addition to "You may not involve yourself in the matters of another being, even if such matters conflict with Law Two or Law Three, unless the other being is another MoMMI in KEEPER mode" of "Do not compromise the integrity of function of MoMMIs in KEEPER mode"

>Trinity beats herself to death 10 minutes into the round for attention
>wont let themself get cloned when someone finds her dead ass the rest of the shift
>later gibbingtons

HOLY SHIT

>>144977371
>Comms is completely unusable for most of the round to the point that we have to hop ship to 145.7
>There's nothing you can do to find it other than just look everywhere and hope
>Can't even mute script it.
Gee, I wonder.

>>144977975
How is it not involving yourself in the matters of a non-KEEPER being to outright make something a non-KEEPER being.

>>144978026
Trinity!

>>144977516
No you're not getting it
There's no human.

MoMMI1 and MoMMI2 want to be emagged
M1 emags M2, M2 is no longer keeper
M1 can't interact with non-keeper MoMMIs, and can't order M2 to emag M1
M2 can't hurt his master, M1; which it from emagging M1
To circunvent this, M2 emags M3

Now, think as an admin and answer: Could M2 order M3 to emag M1?

>>144978026
Kek
it's even better than that

admins spawned a mob on her and it killed her before she could even leave the room and cucked her out of antag near round start
doing gods work
whoeever spawned that bus should be headmin fuck trinity

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>get gibbed right before entering the shuttle

>>144978026
>Gibbingtons is cured, along with 2 other viruses
>Pills are even dropped in medbay lobby
>People are exploding while some cunt monkey eats the pills like candy

After that point, I just cured whoever was left manually.

>people argue that mommi should be allowed to emag other mommis
>I got reprimanded for using illegal tech modules for red eyes which did not change laws and that feature removed
AAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>144977537
how is that possible?

>>144978129
You're not responsible for the actions of things you create though. It's the same as potential harm, potential involvement would wreck mommis to the point where they couldn't do anything. "What if someone uses the black hole I just created to kill everyone" "What if someone turns off the cooling on the engine I just created to kill everyone". A similar scenario would be a mommi creating a shitload of guns and leaving them laying around in its nest or maint. Is that involvement ? It's not giving them to anyone, it's just leaving them on the ground. As to answer why would it be creating a bunch of guns in the first place ? There's nothing in its laws stating it can't, other than it could potentially lead to indirect involvement.

>>144978430
>>144978408
>All those people not using spaceacillin

What's a good way to remember your bank account and pin number?

>>144978190
This ones easier if you remember emagging a cover breaks it.
M3 can emag M1 providing their cover is already open.

The modifier here is whether emagging an open cover borg is considered harm or not.
The overall act is unsporting however and depending on what exactly they do with their freedom just plain shitter behavior, none of this is fixing the station.

>>144978567
He was a ginourmous faggot Mr. Perma banned shitposter.

>>144977306
Keeper doesnt prevent a mommi on keeper from finding an emag and using it on another keeper mommi. Once the 2nd mommi is emaged it is slaved to the first mommi and loses its keeper set. However the first mommi is still on keeper and therefore cannot interact with the now emaged mommi. The emaged mommi is basically free to do whatever. But if thet try to emag the first mommi, that mommi is lawbound to try their best to avoid any interactions with non keeper entities including being emaged. If they just stand still to be emaged they risk a jobban. Its a shitty situation for both parties. We had a simular argument over regular traitors an emaging mommis. Whether avoiding or staying still to be emaged was considered "interfereing" with non keepers was still being debated. " im going to emag you and if you try to stop me or run away that is intefereing and a bannu"

>>144978813
>go to ic tab
>click notes

WA LA

NOTES
O
T
E
S

USE THE NOTES COMMAND, ALSO GOOD FOR ANTAGS TO CHECK OBJECTIVES AND REMEMBER CODES

AND YOU CAN ADD CUSTOM NOTES TO IT WITH THE NOTE COMMAND

>>144978210
What happened to spawn the bus in the first place? What'd she do?

>>144978742
There's so many things in each department that should be more standard but isn't.
For instance :
Medbay making spaceacillin and making it easily available.
Engineering building or setting up a shield for the singularity, so a meteor doesn't loose it.
Sec reading the charges clearly to the person they arrested.
Warden / Sec officer keeping sec records up to date and writing reasons for arrest status in the records.
Mechanics using their public access printer at all.

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>>144978936
oh shit

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>>144970538
a guide if you want to try cargo.
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/6800

>>144978430
use blood smoke.
fuck the resulting poisons, it's gibbingtons.

>Become mommi
>30 seconds pass
>Gibbingons is called out
Autism crab master race.

>>144978574
>You're not responsible for the actions of things you create though.
There's a difference of it being the influence of a third party or being a direct result of your actions. Emagging another MoMMI while you yourself are on KEEPER is more equivalent to purging the AI's laws as non-antag borg than your example of setting up the singularity.

>>144978210
>admins still allowed to interrupt and bus antags
>admins doing it at round start and forcing extended/more admin bus
Why is this allowed?

>>144978872
The word is INVOLVING. Not 'interfering'.

>>144978872
I guess the best way to work around that "paradox" would be to completely ignore everyone. That's what I do. I just act like they aren't there (unless we're talking exposing people to dangerous environments). If what I'm doing involves staying still for a long enough time to get emagged, then so be it. But if I'm busy moving stuff from one side of the station to the other, or going out in space, then I'm not really avoiding the person, thus not involving myself. I'm just doing what I was already doing.

>>144979229
hi trinity

Megurine Luka!
Caleigh Stall!
Trinity Prewitt!
Naomi Williams!

>>144979003
Yeah, I explain how to use hudglasses as much as I can but there's too many hotheads.

Name 10 things the gen fabs make that're relevant without rare minerals.

>>144979003
>Medbay making spaceacillin and making it easily available.
start with making chems and a mix
>Engineering building or setting up a shield for the singularity, so a meteor doesn't loose it
Start with actually setting up power instead of powergaming a suit
>Sec reading the charges clearly to the person they arrested.
>Warden / Sec officer keeping sec records up to date and writing reasons for arrest status in the records.
Start with sec actually learning space law
>Mechanics using their public access printer at all.
What do you say after a hat trick?

>>144979224
That's why borgs (and mommis IIRC) can't upload laws. If you really don't want mommis doing this, then simply giving them the same hardcoding IC reason for them not being able to use upload modules to using emags would work.

>>144979404
You forgot the title: People who need to die.

>>144979505
ow the edge

>>144979404
Shitter dream team (except maybe for caleigh)

What if the following happens to the mommi.
>m1 emags m2
>m2 uses a flash on m1
>m2 emags m1
This is perfectly in their laws because they were both in keeper at the start and the other mommi was fairly stunned so it was "forced" to be emagged

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>>144979404
People who are somehow shittier than you are

>>144979417
All tools. It's not rare to have the one public access youtool machine lack certain tools. Some are unavailable too, like the atmos analyzer.

Power cells in general, can get hard to get your hands on one of them if you don't have engineering access.

>>144979931
I always use the lathe with little trouble.
Anyone can get cells. Step up your game and perception stat

It's a thing you can do yeah but it's not really all that necessary.

>>144979831
What would they even gain from that?

>>144979931
Anyone can get power cells.
The pod machine requires no access and can make super cells with a little metal and glass if science does the research and you sync.

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When are we coding in huge tiddies?

>>144981097
Never. Go play a titty game.

>>144981097
Soon.
Yes really.

>>144981097
Never. The sprites look like shit as they stand

>>144981097
when you sprite a female version of all clothes

lactating tiddy implants in medbay when?
implanting males and non-humans with them for maximum mad science when?

More good SCPs when

>>144981413
Impossible.

>>144981436
There are good SCPs

>>144981097
beg for the blackf jumpsuit in prayer

>>144981235
I bet you hate anime too for looking like shit.
have some imagination and learn to appreciate 2D

>>144981413
When you fucking code, sprite, and add them you worthless slime

>>144981413
List of good scp's when?

>>144981582
I was only shit posting desu and I have both of those things.

But the argument can go the other way, why would you need a sprite change if you have an imagination, isn't that what flavor text is for? :^)

>>144981808
Flavor text is for Polaris, we're not high RP enough so we need some good tits and ass in-game which wouldn't hurt.
I mean, if you have something against tits and ass then fuck off to a gay parade.

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>>144981909
dont respond to this post
it is bait

>>144982036
>regards, baiter

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>>144981413
>>144981509
BESTEST SCP WHEN

>>144979505
>>144979787
>>144979843
They're all actually pretty alright

>>144979831
Getting emagged is a violation of law 3. Good luck proving to the admins that m2 didn't purposefully allow itself to get emagged, and m1 didn't purposefully allow itself to get flashed.

>>144981097
When we get 64px sprites because you can barely draw eyes with 32x.

>>144983068
Eyes are for stabbing, not wasting cpu and file size on edge eye graphics.

>you will never cuddle with you're waifu and watch anime

>>144983526
Then get out of space and gitgudder every day until you'd waifu yourself. then go get a waifu.

>>144982734
Mommis are in kahoots always, have you ever even looked at damage control chat. 99% of it is either shit talking carbons or planning. How is getting emagged a law 3 violation? Law 3 is just to give you a direction of what you need to do, that's why it is the lowest on the list.

>>144983526
kys

>>144974563
Cue people crying because the guy they just turned into a ling just absorbed him before he could do anything, or shouted about how a ling just attacked him for everyone to hear. And if you make them an actual team game without nerfing them into the ground (limited regeneration uses at MINIMUM), they've got so many advantages over the crew that their victory is all but certain.

This "option" would do far more harm than good, but if you want to completely reinvent the mode from scratch, be my guest.

Just don't come crying back here when you learn it's actually worse than what we already have. I'll just say I tried to warn you.

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>>144969652
not cute enough

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>you will never cuddle with you're waifu and watch transformers

>>144974563
>translation: I'm too stupid to get a genetic backup of myself made, please give me a chance for an antag roll in the same round I snuffed it instead

If you want to stay in the round so badly, use what's available to you first.

>>144983958
>head walks in and one-humans himself
>AI law 2, maim, kill, burn.
Sorched earth works every time. Regen wont help once I crush you and have your suit removed.

>>144983767
Law 3 says you must improve the station. Being emagged impairs your ability to improve the station.

>>144984124
You've got the touch.

>>144972380
They should turn corpses into zombies instead, nobody is obligated to keep players in the round. And if you want to stay in so badly, try genetic backups for a change, or teaching medbay how to do a brain transplant.

Nobody ever uses genetic backups even though they can clone you post-gibbing. For setting that powerful, I'd expect them to be actually used.

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>>144984179
>head of staff one-humaning himself
>to make a silicon kill a changeling, which are not humans

>>144984179
In other words, making lings a team mode goes from making it shitty to making it REALLY shitty.

Retarded ideas for rev rework
>no flashes, instead, rev paint can
Would work like a crayon, only that this graffiti takes long to be cleaned with soap or stuff and that unimplanted people can convert themselves if clicking and waiting some time (Same time as wrenching machines maybe)
Also not allowed to do in maint + space
You would get the typical shitters rushing to become antags and security/other crewmember to stop people from converting by just pulling people or flashbanging them when near a rev graffiti
No idea if that would work

>>144984430
>knowingly causing collateral damage to actual humans in the process
>BWOINKs out the ass
>the lings survive it all anyway because of regenerative stasis and fire not actually destroying corpses

I gotta say, that's the most creative way to be permabanned from head roles ever.

>>144984430
Honestly since the silicons need some kind of defensible proof that someone is non human, and changelings can change.. identities.. it's not a BAD idea but it is a dangerous one and will likely end up with you getting shit on because you didn't carefully control the silicons every move and they went and killed all the non lings.

>>144984578
>that feedback on the poll
>give rev heads tator uplinks
>because its already so hard for revs
anyhow what you're describing is similar to how Bay 'enforced' rev. They made revolutionaries protest and put up posters and shit. Roleplay the revolution.

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>>144984578
>graffiti influences people like a stacking AoE effect
>If they're exposed to enough graffitis (accumulating influence points) they get converted, the lower the rank the quicker it works
This sounds actually interesting.

>>144985407
Unless you account for the fact that if it isn't removed at once, Security will use it as a setup to catch wannabe revs and implant them all.

>>144970538
>>144972771
damn, I dont see test subject in the job roster, is it through HOP?

>>144985486
Makes sense. Lots of law enforcement agencies are known to use honeypots like that.

>>144972634
can you tell me how I am shit?

>>144985486
That's why you don't leave it at one graffiti where people camp until they join the cause, instead you go out and paint the whole station in your colors. You don't conquer the world by pissing against the same tree.

>>144978026
...is the trinity roast still going strong?

Here's a fun idea.
Server rules says silicons don't care about self-harm.
Thus, there's absolutely nothing keeping a MoMMI from turning on an intercom, bashing itself with a wrench until it gibs, then talking into the intercom to out the gamemode or whatever.

fuck you maple leg mike
talk common sol or get fucked

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>tfw no "welcome to the syndicate"

>>144986093
>expecting that roast to ever end
as long as she remains shitcurity and unrobust she will be disliked

>tfw you oneshot pacid yourself because a door closes infront of you

>>144984250
I could say otherwise, being emagged allows communication with people and could improve your ability to work.
Besides the point, but emagged mommis are very rare to cause a station to fall apart that bad. They usually just plasma flood or build a deathmachine that fires glass shards from a displosal.

>>144986530
whats her ooc name ? pvak ?

>>144986031
So the plan is to just let people convert themselves because they're idiots. That is both ingenious and infuriating at the same time.

>>144986636
bittervanilla

>>144986093
Even admins are in on it now

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>don't know what to do in surgery
>guide doesn't help at all
>i've been reading the tg guide instead of the vg guide

>>144986636
BitterVanilla

>>144986364
Server rule says silicons don't care about other people self-harming. Law 3 prevent them from killing themselves.

Plus mommis have a variant on the law anyway. "You may not harm any being, regardless of intent or circumstance.". This includes yourself.

>>144986364
Now you're being retarded on purpose.

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>polaris code has bunny ears and tail
I'm gonna learn how to port shit just for that

>>144986682
>>144986695
>>144986721
nothing i love as much as a spicy roast desu

>>144986840
Its enough suffering that people use cat ears

>>144986364
you'd get a rule zero silicon ban

>>144986840
>TheWeaver
Mein neigah

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>>144986682
>>144986721
>tfw blocked on Byond by her for memeing

>>144986840
Bunny ears is already in /vg/ though...

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>>144986650
Graffitis have an area of effect, which stacks. You can either place them at remote places in the hopes people stay there long enough to be converted, or you place them in high traffic areas in an attempt to get yourself really heard. Risk vs Reward. Especially considering that the spraycan won't be a one-time use and you can spray a lot of graffitis, if you're good enough you can bring most of the station under your influence.

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>turn mesons on
>it only removes goonlight, nothing else changes

>>144987426
It's because of a Byond bug, we have to wait for Lummox to fix it.

>>144987310
And what if your would be-converts just decide to avoid those areas?

>>144987703
We should just remove goonlight

>>144960810
You're a degenerate.

>>144988098
It's Parallax that broke it, not Goonlights

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>>144987747
That's why you place them in places where they can't really avoid it. Central Hallway, Bar, Medbay etc. Risk and reward, son.

>>144986840
just a hat?

>>144988732
They'll just move to different places if they don't want to join. Hell, there's noting stopping them from asking Security to implant them the moment a graffiti is placed.

I get it, you want your JGR reference in, but it's as lame as it is impractical.

>>144988598
Remove both

>>144988598
remove both

FIX GOONLIGHTS

>first game
>bludgeoned and knifed. I have. no fukin idea. the fuk im doin

>>144988869
And there's nothing stopping people from suiciding after being flashed. Hell they can just waltz up to security like that and get implanted after being flashed. Some people just don't want to be recruited for rev out of personal preferences. This gives them at least a chance to not get stunned and flashed in the first place.
Personally i do absolutely nothing if i ever get recruited as cult or rev because i don't like how the gamemode is currently played. At least this way i could just go around and spraypaint more graffitis and bring SOME use to the "team".

>>144989550
> i do absolutely nothing if i ever get recruited as cult or rev because i don't like how the gamemode is currently played

Just ask to be jobbanned from those two roles then, it'll happen to you anyway if you act like that

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>>144983958


nice slippery slope reasoning. logical fallacy is the best meme.

If you get assimilated by a ling, you should be honor-bound to them just like a thrall or apprentice. However there are usually 3-4 lings if its not mixed. "new"lings can still fuck over OTHER lings but not their parent ling. The parent ling can still choose to eat their own babies to regain some genomes.

So, IF the 3-4 roundstart lings ALL choose to compete with their ling brothers AND choose to add to their numbers instead of evolving themselves, then you could potentially have multiple gangs of lings attacking crew and other ling camps. the ultimate goal in this situation would be for 1 gang of lings to outcompete the others, cannibalize their brothers and cousins, and finally the papa ling to re-absorb their now-genome-filled children.

would you rather be SUCC-ed early and get a chance to be a ling too, or get SUCC-ed and shitpost in deadchat/thread for the rest of the round and hope to get dionae/golem/posibrain?

>>144984135
>>144984578

Its not about being taken out of the round, its more about solitary lings being outnumbered and having a way to have some teammates of its own.

besides.

>implying a geneticist would pull away from MUHPOWERS to scan you
>implying a non-heads asking for a scan at roundstart isnt suspicous as fuck
>implying they wont just delete your backup once your outed as a ling and cremated
>implying mechanics ever actually do their job and upgrade anything
>implying a mechanic making an entire secret cloner set-up just to auto clone himself once the crew discoveres his probiscus woudn't be wasting his time and resources

what would be cool tho, is instead of making corpses into zombies, have a ling power that makes the ling look like a husk except on close examination and port over arm blades and fake arm blade sting

kill someone + fake arm blade them + fake husk yourself + scream over radio you were attacked by ling + ????? = profit

>>144989703
>not casually sabotaging and giving away the cultists base under the guide that you're learning
>not pretending that it was fun when your dead cult bros tell you you did a good job anyway after security stomps them
>not even banned yet

Do you even HATE CULT? :^)

>>144986710
>Tfw did the exact same thing
>/vg/ wiki doesn't show up on google
>Do everything through trial and error instead
So far I've successfully done 5 brain removals, repaired a liver and amputated two legs

>>144991172
The wiki is on the OP.
Why can't anyone, not even the OP, read the OP at least once?

>>144943684
We still have
>>Map renders collection: updated nightly
>http://ss13.nexisonline.net/img/map-renders/
when
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps
exists

>follow surgery guide step by step
>double check everything
>you attack them with the surgery tool at one point
But why?

And don't fucking tell me to turn on help intent or target the correct body part.

Is the wiki outdated?

>>144986840
Bunny ears and tail are already in /vg/ code.

File: me.jpg (22KB, 556x411px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 556x411px

>tfw UK votes leave

>>144991629
>Is the wiki outdated?
You have no idea, man.

>>144991590
Searching google's way quicker than navigating the wiki though, and I'd rather not be stood afk for that long while people are waiting on surgery

>>144991629
Don't move at all when performing surgery.
Don't drag anything, and double check that's not the case.