/dsg/ - Souls General

DaS1 > DaS2 > DaS3 = BB > DeS

AR of the Sunlight Straight Sword at +5 and 40/40?

>>144937795
fpbp

WHERE ARE THESE NEW PATCH NOTES?

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one of those moments

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>People actually, unironically, listening to anything Luci has to say

>>144937796
My character is 45/40, but for me it's 196 base +251 scaling

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>>144937593
>DaS2 is so much better

Reminder:
>soul memory
>no full eye orbs
>invaders can't heal
>hitboxes
>unresponsive controls
>sluggish movement
>DaS2 fastroll (30 frames) is closer to DaS1 midroll (32 frames) than fastroll (24 frames)
>massive stamina drain from sprinting, rolling, and attacking
>literally spend 2/3 of the fights waiting for stamina to regenerate
>lock-on doesn't perform it's stated function of keeping you facing the target
>can't pivot
>no tracking on attacks
>can't combo R2->R1
>deadzones

DaS2 apologists cannot refute this.

>>144937914
Are you the same guy always posting this or did this pasta catch on?

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>>144937882

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kek

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>>144937568
I can give you your candlestick now, should I still put my sign down at the belfry?

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>>144937795
>DaS2 above anything

>>>/gif/8676971
Is that DSP?

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THREE DAYS
BUT HE IS DEAD WITH BRIGAND DAGGERS AS THE CULPRIT

>Tfw end of the game but decided to switch to only Brigand Daggers
>on NG+++ with +8 daggers

Eygon is a godsend during this fight, he does shit tons of damage with his WA, has tons of HP, can't be knocked off the edge of the arena, and can't be guardbroken with his greatshield up

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PLEASE VOTE FOR YOUR PREFERRED META LEVEL IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY

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IF YOUR PREFERRED LEVEL ISN'T LISTED, PLEASE CHOOSE THE CLOSEST AVAILABLE OPTION

So, apparently Estus is something that can be made as a soup?
Or were we always carrying some kind of soup in our flasks already?
That's kind of disgusting tbqh

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>>144937795
Lol, no.

DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > DaS2

>>144938204
>SL80 wins majority for first week of this being spammed
>suddenly SL120 votes quadruple 2 days ago
something real fishy here

HEY EVERYONE
QUICK FUCKING TIP

You ever get a phantom that uses miracles, and makes a big effort to heal everybody with them?
Pay attention to that son of a bitch. That motherfucker is going to keep you alive.

You can get away with chugging estus in someone's face. You can use estus pretty much anywhere you like and get away with it.

Don't fucking use your estus if there's a healer nearby and they can heal you fast enough.
Fall the fuck back when you're low on health because it's not like I'm holding L1 for my own benefit, I'm waiting for you to get over here so I can heal your dumb ass.
Quit chugging estus when there's nobody around to hurt you, let me heal you, you jackass!

You're just going to run out of estus and then some little hornet ring wearing bastard and going to get you to like 30 health and you won't have the estus you need to cheese your way out of that.

THIS HAS BEEN A PSA
STOP IGNORING HEALER PHANTOMS YOU CHUCKLEFUCK

>>144938296
>DaS1 at the top
>DeS>= BB
What the fuck

Wait what the fuck

Did bloodborne just get a price drop? Digital download code is only $20 on amazon

Estus is fire soup
Ashen Estus is leftover Estus in the fridge that you forgot to heat up, but eat anyway because sometimes food tastes better cold.

>>144938328

sl80 won for roughly the first 6 hours

just fucking stop already, its 120

>>144938328
>SL80 wins majority
>for first week
That poll was created this Sunday. SL80 was the majority for about 10 minutes after it was first posted, when the poll had less than 30 votes.

SL120 was in the lead by the end of the first hour and the % for all 3 choices has been relatively consistent since then.

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looking for fisting buddies to brave through the cathedral of the deep through manly punches

pw is dsg, PC, leave signs at cleansing chapel bonfire

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>>144938374
It's called having taste.

>>144938608
>bb
>taste
irony

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>tfw no Blue Flame
>tfw no Red Rust Sword
>tfw no Puzzling Stone Sword
>tfw no Fume Sword
>tfw no Loyce Greatsword
>tfw no Pursuer Ultra Greatsword
>tfw no Smelter Sword
>tfw no Drakewing Ultra Greatsword
>tfw no Crypt Blacksword
>tfw no Ivory King Ultra Greatsword
>tfw no Red Rusted Scimitar
>tfw no Warped Sword
>tfw no Bewitched Alonne Sword
>tfw no Curved Dragon Greatsword
>tfw no Ice Rapier
>tfw no Sacred Chime Hammer
>tfw no Bone Fist
>tfw no Gargoyle Bident
>tfw no Yorgh's Spear
>tfw no Dragonrider Halberd
>tfw no Mastodon Halberd
>tfw no Santier's Spear
>tfw no Grand Lance
>tfw no Chariot Lance
>tfw no true lances at all
>tfw no Dragonrider Twinblade
>tfw no Red Iron Twinblade
>tfw no Sorcerer's Twinblade
>tfw no twinblades at all
>tfw no Old Whip
>tfw no Alonne Greatbow
>tfw no Possessed Armor Greatbow
>tfw no Twin-Headed Greatbow
>tfw no Sanctum Crossbow
>tfw no Sanctum Repeating Crossbow
>tfw no Dark Pyromancy Flame

so now that infinite wa is getting nerfed in the patch, what is the best starter class for someone who often uses wa in combat? deprived?

>>144938563
forgot to say I'm SL 95

>>144938663
The Alonne Greatbow is in the game, model and all.

>>144938563
>*sounds of red eye orb*
haha jk I'm too high above your level

>>144938328
SL80 is quality or luck only, SL120 is also quality or luck but with buffs
So I would go with Sl100, since you don't have to min-max (as you would in Sl80) and have lots of stats to make a specialized build

But go whatever floats your boat, everyone uses 1 shot hornet anyways

>>144938650
I'd love to hear your taste anon, except you are devoid of any.
>>144938696
Knight.

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>>144937472
What did the new patch do?

Anyone want to help me with the Pontiff? I'm SL 12 on PC.

>>144938374
DaS1 is indisputably the best Souls game overall. It has the best combat mechanics by a longshot, the best PvP despite (or in some ways because of) all the glitches, and the DLC had some of the best and most memorable bosses in the series.

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>>144938541
on June 5th the votes were:

80: 32 votes

100: 29 votes

120: 58 votes

>>144938650
Says the guy who will never be able to play it.

>>144938696
Knight, most likely.

>>144938696
>he hasn't been riding on the Knight rollercoaster for the last 7 months already
Haha

>>144938802
If you think BB is a good game, its already clear you don't know the meaning of the word taste

There has only been on DECENT souls game and that is DaS1

Everything else is mediocrity.
DaS1 is a rushed half of a game and it's still better than everything else Fromsoft has shitted out recently.

>>144937795
DaS 1 = Bloodborne > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 3 = DeS

There's not a big gap between any of them. mind you, they ALL did something good, shame they didn't combine all the positive aspects in Dark Souls 3 for some reason.

>>144938859
>>144937975

how do u filter tripfags again
just switched from firefox to chrome

>>144938974
>2 above 3
If you want to try and argue about last place of 2 vs DeS that's your deal but 2 will NEVER be completely in the middle of the road and Soul Memory keeps this true

>>144937914
Reminder

>gank squads always
>covenants broken and or useless
>no arena
>cant punish rolls
>cant punish estus chugs at close range
>cant punish fog doors
>T-posing models everywhere
>unresponsive controls too
>too fast paced movement even when you're wearing knight gear
>no poise
>again if there is a poise, it's b r o k e n
>infinite rolls you cant punish
>literally spend 2/3rds of the fight chugging estus\rolling\r1 spamming
>lock on barely works, as you're fighting with the camera most boss battles
>parrying takes no skill
>because you can totally combo R1 and R2's
>small amount of fashion souls
>very limited weapons with similar movesets
>no power stance
>no parry move for weapons
>weapon arts do shit damage and are worthless
>hit detection sucks fucking cock
>everyone either has estoc or darksword
>PvPing is literally the worst out of all Miyazaki games
>bonfires literally everywhere
>either really good\awesome looking bosses or polar opposite
>music as bosses
>near to no unique NPCs as most are either from DaS1 or DaS2
>heavy armour useless unless for fashion souls which is already pretty shit


there's more but I'm tired

>miyazaki dicksuckers and apologists can't accept this nor refute it

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>>144937472
Should i buy Journey?

>>144939110
>MY OPINION IS RIGHT!
Fuck off

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>>144937914
>questionable hitboxes for most of the game
>mfw popping a dragon charm to heal against Fume Knight and one of his swings goes over my head while kneeling

I still died and it never happened again but it was the tightest shit.

>>144938863
>SL 12
You've come this far, I believe in you anon. Become parry god.

>>144939110
Did you not read the full post m8?
Dark souls 2 is something like a 9/10 in my scale, 3 would be at least 8.5/10
I play mostly casters, casters were just significantly more fun in 2.
STR characters are more satisfying in 3, 1 and Bloodborne though.

>>144937472
Anyone on ps4 with a backup save that would drop me a golden crown? trying into white fashion

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>tfw Dark Souls III is legitimately the worst game you've ever played

I would actually rather play ANYTHING else. Any fucking game.

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oh shit duders

>>144939110
Except 3 is worse than 2 in a majority of ways.

Only thing DaS3 got right was the boss designs and soundtrack. Everything else was either meh or shit.

>>144939110
Soul Memory only affected the PvP/Coop aspect of the game which is only 1/8h of the game. Didn't effect me, so I don't have any opinions for or against it. Nor does it sway my judgement since it's my opinion is based on the PvE gameplay portion.

DaS 2 is leaps and bounds over 3 in that regard

>>144939336
One good hit box doesn't negate all the bad ones.

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>>144937795
Das1>Das3>BB>Des>>>>>>>>>Das2

>>144939402
Hyperbole is more of a /v/ thing friend, I recommend you go back there.

>>144938663
>no disc chime
>no usable scythes

>>144939496
>2 is leaps and bounds over 3 in that regard
Which is saying jack shit considering 2 has some of the worst PvE experiences in the Soulsborne name

Quality + 30 luck bleed cancer. Doable at SL100? 120? How do they do in pve?

>>144939467
Such as?

>>144937795
First post best post.

>>144939109
Settings>filters

Im back at the halfway fortress Crossbow Ocelott
Fucking crabs

>>144939558
Name any game.
I'd rather play DMC2 than this fucking trash.

>>144939616
Better than 3 and DeS.

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>>144937914
>hitboxes
I give 0 shits about the which DS is better circlejerk but lets not pretend hitboxes are a thing limited to 2

Do all chimes have different sounds? I noticed yorshkas (like a christmas bell) sounds different than a crystal chime (cowbell)

>>144939565
There isn't a single weapon that doubles as a miracle casting tool in 3. That's a damn shame

>>144939184
>PvPing is literally the worst out of all Miyazaki games
Demon's Souls was a thing

>>144939697
thx famalam

>>144939713
E.T
Doug
Crazy Bus
Desert Bus

>>144939721
>better than DeS
OVER THE LINE

>>144939670
see >>144939184

>>144939808
Would play all of them.

>>144939810
Go replay it, it's combat is very lacking. Especially how rolls work in that game.

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>>144939735
Bad hitboxes exist in all games, but they were far more common and far worse in 2 than in any other Souls game.

>>144939864
Not for long you would.

>>144939864
Then you have a serious case of contrarian and "I don't like it, so it's SHIT" which is, once again, more of a /v/ thing.

>>144938983
Specifically though

>>144939769
>DeS pvp
Literally DS3 pvp

>>144939929
>they were far more common and far worse in 2 than in any other Souls game.

Were they now?
Then why do we always see the same 2-3 cherry-picked webms every single time this is brought up?

>>144938974
its funny how pvp changed between games

des: hyper armor motherfucker
dks1: i'm going to backstab you and there's nothing you can do because i have poise
dks2: guard break is the greatest thing ever
dks3: i complained about poise two games ago but literally what the fuck

dks2 easily has the most depth in terms of pvp but one of the most abysmal matchmaking systems
dks3 has it to where i can get an opponent easy but good lord it's a canfire. i still love doing it, but holy fuck it is a canfire and i hope future dlc throws me a bone(hahahaha)
dks1 pvp is an immense canfire. the only thing worse than it is des pvp. you cannot defend this shit lmao the other games are way better

>DeS
world: this is the good shit
pve: a good start
pvp: holy fuck stop

>DkS1
world: hell yeah motherfucker
pve: HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER
pvp: jesus christ

>DkS2
world: i don't care about this shit
pve: i don't want to do this shit
pvp: holy shit i wish i could do this more often

>DkS3
world: i'm digging this
pve: it's not 1 but it's still fun
pvp: i never asked for this shit

>>144939735
ds1 shitboxes was pretty much just grab attacks though

>>144939948
I don't like it because it has objectively the worst of EVERYTHING in the entire 5-game series.
>worst music
>worst pve
>worst pvp
>worst fashion
>worst build variety
>worst bosses

>>144940124
Ceaseless

>>144939929
Yeah, I wish DaS2 rolls had iframes for entire duration of the roll like DaS3 does...

Most of the examples of "bad hitboxes' are people getting hit and the game continuing with the attack. Same thing works in every single Souls game.

If you dashed too late against a brainsucker guess what you're still grabbed, even tho you moved 5ft away from him

You got more examples in two because people were so bad at rolls, even with ADP crutch stat.

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>>144940126
>objectively

Some things will remain distant dreams forever.

>>144939987
Literally only the devs know the exact changes..

How do I know if I have the DS3 Season Pass?
I bought the Day One Edition, so are the codes just implanted in the disc or something? I have to know so I can get a good profit off of selling this shit game.

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>>144940087
>Then why do we always see the same 2-3 cherry-picked webms every single time this is brought up?
Because most people don't bother to make/save 100 webms of a game that they don't like just to prove a commonly know point about it to strangers on the internet.

>>144939929

There are no worse hitboxes in the series than those black blob fucks in DS3

I literally can not understand what the fuck is going with them or when to attack

>>144939184
So basically, you're shit. The only legit complaint you listed was poise. Everything else is just you bitching about being bad.

An arena isn't really needed because you can use red signs after a boss is dead, essentially turning any area into an arena on demand.

>>144940280
become a dev and report back then

>>144940284
Day One Edition does not give you DLC friend.
I think it only gives you an incomplete OST or some shit like that.

>>144940296
You can see the sword pass through his feet.

>>144939496
Most people that lashed on Soul memory were vastly PvPers, that failed to grasp that a SL meta wouldn't work in DS2.

Yes, soul memory was a poor implemented idea, but until agape ring, it made twinks very hard to pull off.
I hardly remember when invading didn't work, since SM broadened the people I could invade, downside being I would have no control over their SL (which is quite the same as a full orb in DaS).

Keep in mind PvP isn't ''muh duels'' only, invasions are still a thing and are the focus of the PvP system.
DaS3 took the concept and perfected it into Weapon Memory,which is better, but also should account for NG+ rings in my opinion ( yea, fuck twinks, they are the main reason these rules exist)

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>clearing area of items on the way to anal londor
>invaded by faithful A
>cool
>good fight
>invaded by faithful B
>shit
>A falls to his death right as B gets to me
>break his guard death imminent
>invaded by faithful C as I finish B
> fuck me
>no more estus he's got me on the ropes
>invaded by faithful D
>hello darkness my old friend
>lay down and just let the sweet sweet embrace of death take me

Fuck me. I don't mind auto summon covenants. It makes certain areas more fun, but that can't be working as intended

>>144940351
You can only summon 2 at a time as opposed to 5, pretty shitty desu. I'd also like to get invaded after killing a boss too so I can help my fellow bros get their ears

>>144940351
Compared to the shit what I've seen you type about your reasoning behind hating DaS2, you're in no position to talk, mate. You're undeniably shit

>>144940296
>guy gets hit
>has to be centered for the animation to take place
nothing wrong with this

the best example of shitty hitboxes in ds2 is the giants

>>144940296
Sure, let's go with that.
That's example number 2 I always see btw, someone post that one with the giant and we can be done with it for the thread.

>>144940439
Oh it is.
Aldrich Faithful is the most braindead convenant of all time.

>>144940439
>being lucky enough that that you get to fight them one at a time

>>144940343
The fact that they can swing wildly and hit a huge area doesn't mean their hitboxes are bad. That's just bad enemy design.

Bad hitboxes would be an enemy attack visually missing you by a meter but still connecting.

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why in the fuck is there a wall there

>>144940296
Nigga if you are going to bitch about the hitboxes don't use a gif that has been debunked and discussed in-depth. The dude got hit out of I-frames and because roll animations NEVER get interrupted he warps after the roll animation ends.

Grabs being fucky and tweening has been around in all the games.

>>144939423
Is that one of the Balders at Undead Parish? How the fuck do you get killed by one of those?

>>144940121
The fact that you think dks2's guard break was viable speaks volumes about what type of player you are.

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>>144940531
This makes me lose my shit every time

>>144940003
DeS had:
-worse netcode
-ridiculously long load times after you died
-MOON GRASS
-second chance(tears of denial is nowhere even half as bad as this shit)
-the nastiest katanas of any souls game
-backstab fever
-world tendency
-the fucking meat cleaver
-the fucking DBS
-absolutely busted magic

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>>144940591
you are being invaded my friend

>>144940591
your getting your boipucci invaded

>>144940591
you're being invaded, prepare your sweet ass ,buddy

>>144940671
Too bad it's a baron wasteland pvp wise, so more than half of that shit is invalid.

>>144939184
>
I got ganked in 1, 2, and 3, how is 3 any different
>
Bellkeepers and Company of Champions were the only good ones in 2, don't lie
>
That's only valid if you like it
>
wrong
>
at close range you can R1 twice which invalidates some of the replenished health
>
True
>
patched out
>
controls are responsive, albeit the que is back
>
subjectivity
>
poise in 1 was fucking retarded, the only good poise was 2 admittedly
>
working as intended
>
rolls can be punished
>
how is this any different from other series invasions other than using different items to heal?
>
I've only had lock on problems for king of the storm, most bosses do what they're supposed to in terms of lock on but you don't need lock on at a constant
>
parrying never took skill as long as parrying tools existed
>
I can
>
Somewhat true
>
true
>
Depends if you liked it, it was a good thing but not even that was really well done
>
there are parry moves for some weapons, although most are still offhand
>
weapon arts do GREAT damage compared to most R1s and R2s
>
Hit detection is better than 2, oh is it better than 2.
>
Everyone has the flavor of the month weapon and an Estoc
>
DeS was worse.
>
Debateable con
>
Most bosses have a good look about them
>
??
>
There are unique NPCs in this, though
>
It reduces damage, it does what it's supposed to.

>>144940591
You may be about to experience some "forcey fun time", as the british put it.

>>144940660
950+ hours on DaS2 and 300+ on SotFS, and have rarely had any errors with hit detection, if ever.

>>144940465
You only need 2 at a time to host a FC, you only need 1 to have a duel.

>>144940504
>(you)

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>>144940684
>>144940715
>>144940720
BACKSTABBED ,Y FRIENDS

>>144940671
In fairness, I thought character/world tendency were interesting ideas. I just wish they were easier to control.

>>144940671
Das1 has the best nippon steel

>>144940753
>Bellkeepers and Company of Champions were the only good ones in 2
>Forgetting rats

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>>144939710
Mission Complete Boss.
There is some activity in the old cathedral. I think we better go check it out.

>>144940671
Also a bullshit hp penalty and you have to fucking kill yourself after ever pvp match

>>144940770
Buy a lottery ticket

>>144940885
Rats were a fun concept, but ultimately pointless. Unless you ran down and fought them at the start (i.e. no where near your traps) then they could just wait a little bit then black crystal out.

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>>144940885
Pilgrims of Dark were also pretty cool. Gotta say, looking back I'm really disappointed at the lack of variety in the DS3 covenants.

hey if i dont have the dex requirement for the buckler does this mean icant parry

>>144940465
From getting rid of invasions when the area boss is dead is one of the most fucking stupid things they've done.
That's the reason watchdogs, darkmoons, blueberrys, and to some extent aldritch faithfuls don't work properly( aldritch's dogs have the advantage of people that go to NG+ and leave the people eater alive just for invasions, exactly like Sif in DaS).

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>>144940825
GIT GUD

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>ass blasted BB retards trying to defend DS3 in it's current state

It's shit. Theres like 3 good areas and the online is the worst in any souls series.


I wanted Dark Souls 3, not BB 2.0

Miyazaki can suck a dick

>>144940585
That was the only good thing out of that situation. If the first two hadn't made stupid mistakes I probably would have been tag teamed into a stunlock oblivion at some point

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>Bloodbite Ring
>Gotthard Twinswords
>Outrider Sword
>Outrider Rapier
>Outrider Helmet
>Outrider Armor
>Outrider Gauntlets
>Outrider Leggings
>Pontiff's Rigt Eye
>Pontiff's Left Eye
>Aldrich's Ruby
>Aldrich's Sapphire
>Great Swamp Ring
>Knight Slayer's Ring
>Blue Tearstone Ring

Who at Fromsoft had the superb idea of forcing items on you for picking up the keys or killing minibosses
I just run past these assholes, no point in having a fun fight if I have to fiddle through my inventory to drop that useless trash

They still can't figure out to give the player an option to drop an item while picking it up, those 30+ armor pieces I have to sort out because I was farming a rare weapon really seal the deal

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>>144940121
>acts like hyper armor is good
>DaS1 backstabs were unavoidable
>DaS2 guard break was useful
>DaS2 pvp had depth
Holy shit, how can one post be so wrong about everything!

>>144941146
I'M SORRY BRO
LEVEL 89
INVADE ME

>>144941165
Go back to Dark Souls 2, friend.

>>144941223
>sell items
>put them in bottomless box
>stop being a sperg over picking up an item

>>144940825
who would've thought?
Backstabbed in DaS? Gives me conniptions.

If the backstabs were like in DaS3, DaS would be da best PvP of the series

>>144941223
This is not your average autism.

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>>144940915
The Old Cathedral? Something tells me its more than just a nuke in there. Copy, I'm on my way!

>>144941142
Nah, it is the perfect way to do things. As a red, I wan't to be able to invade, instead of getting stuck with fog walls from 3rd world shitter connections that never manage to finish connecting.

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>>144941165
>DaS2 shitters this assblasted that nobody like their abortion of a sequel

>>144939184
>anons have legitmately claimed DaS3 has the best NPCs
>when most of them don't even have dialog for walking away
>when none of the summons have unique movesets

I summoned Benhart just to watch him kick bitches desu.

Can I get some grill mouth sliders? I can do literally every part of the face but the mouth REE

>>144940753
>I got ganked in 1, 2, and 3, how is 3 any different
When it's nearly every invasion, there's a problem.

>Bellkeepers and Company of Champions were the only good ones in 2, don't lie
Brotherhood of Blood, yeah bellkeepers, yeah Company, Rat king, Dragon remnants for actual honor duels.

>wrong about rolls
Except you can't like you could in DaS2 or DaS1, They could spam O or B or w/e until their stamina bar runs out and you wouldn't be able to land a strike no matter what

>at close range you can R1 twice which invalidates some of the replenished health
Only works with fast weapons like estoc or darksword. Everything else goes out the window.

>patched out
Not really. Had four invasions today with it still happening. Admittedly, it's not as common.

>how is this any different from other series invasions other than using different items to heal?
because is DaS1 or DaS2 you had to plan your attacks and moves rather than R1R1R1R1R1R1

>parrying never took skill as long as parrying tools existed
>what is DaS2 Two-hand GS parry

>I can
anyone could combo R1\R2 in DaS2 lol

>weapon arts do GREAT damage compared to most R1s and R2s
There's a couple exceptions, but other than that, no. it's better to do a double R2 or R1 combo

>Hit detection is better than 2, oh is it better than 2.
Aye but it's still pretty shit at times

>Everyone has the flavor of the month weapon and an Estoc
exactly

>DeS was worse.
DeS and DaS3 are on the same tier of being shit

>>144941436
But, isn't it you who is assblasted?
Everytime someone likes DaS2 you all throw a shitfit because someone doesn't agree with your hivemind.

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SUMMONING ULTRA BRO

>>144941516
At least your waifus don't look like the crimson chin

>>144941362
If they would

JUST

TURN

ON

POISE

>>144940915
Sign down at the cleansing chapel bonfire

>>144941315
>>144941369
Give me a single reason why assigning the two-hand button as an option to discard non-key item pick-ups wouldn't improve the game tenfold

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>>144941641
>26 seonds before i can post again
>antoehr 50 with an image
Cx

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>>144941223

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>>144941436
>DS3 shitposter going into maximum overdrive when they realize their "true sequel" does everything fucking wrong and they have to come up with scraps to justify their 60 dollar purchase

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>>144941670
NEVER EVER!!!!!

>>144941529
I don't care if you like DaS2 or not. It had some nice qualities to it, some of which I wish had made it into DaS3.

But you'd have to be a complete braindead fanboy not to see that DaS3 is a vast improvement over 2 in so many ways. The fact that it fixed DaS2's god aweful movement and basic game mechanics is reason enough that it's superior.

>>144941670
Didn't you hear anon?

It is turned on. It affects the iframes after your roll so you dont get stunlocked.

W O R K I N G
A S
I N T E N D E D

Magic seriously needs some hyper armor in a bunch of their slow casting spells. Cannot cast Great Soul Sword ever without getting knocked out mid-active cast

god damnit post waifu faces and/or sliders

>>144941859
>The fact that it fixed DaS2's god aweful movement and basic game mechanics is reason enough that it's superior.
All 3 did was copy 1. And somehow... it manage to be a worse game

does anyone else think that ultra weapons use too much stam in pve?

i mean they're useable, but not balanced at all compared to other weapons

>>144941165
>online is the worst in any souls series
Literally impossible when DaS2 exists.

>>144941874
do any of the casting items have a WA that helps with stagger? I think some miracles talismans have that.

>>144941517
>
This isn't a flaw of the game, it's a flaw of the evolution of le dank souls culture
>
>dragon remnants for actual honor duels
haha

>
But there's a difference between the ability waning and being unable to do it altogether

>
>someone near me uses estus, so I slap them with a FUGS attack, doing damage to their person

>
I haven't had it happen since the patchk.

>
>in DaS1/2 you had to plan your attacks and moves rather than R1x90
hahahaha

>
>this is somehow invalidating my argument

>
And I can in 3

>
What are these oh so exceptions? Quickstep, Perserverance, Feast Bell, etc aren't worthless and Stance, Ricard'sL&P, and STOMP all do more damage than a double R1

>
Phantom range is pretty bad at times but the Dancer's grapple in phase 1 is the only hit detection that I've noticed be off the charts

>
Then say that shitlord

>
BB > DaS1 > DaS3 > DeS/DaS2

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it is only human to commit sin

What are some good dex builds that aren't purely quality? end/dex? I tried dex/faith but that shit sucks...

>>144941920
>All 3 did was copy 1.
Which is what makes it vastly superior to 2.

>>144941670
I'm still conflicted about that idea.
What would great weapons become?
Would it make fast weapons even more ''OP''?
Would make spells a lotmore easier to use thats for sure.

I dunno man, the way the final game is designed, I don't think poise would return, since we have to account for PvE as well ( think DaS strafe, poise tanks mob hit and BACKSTABBU).
I just wish that they didn't leave poise as a stat, since it does (almost) nothing, seems VERY unprofessional.

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i am literally cursed to never complete my waifu's face

>>144941782
Because its reason for existing is to cater to one or two complete autists like you when nobody else fucking cares that much

Can I make using lightning miracles with a chime useable in Pvp? As long as I have enough spacing itll be fine right?

>>144942115
dex weapons barely use any end
pure dex is for lv70 invasions, not for 120 pvp

>>144941517
Get good. Every invasion being a group isn't a problem. It just means you need to play an invasion like it was intended, rather than as a duel.

BoB was shit. You didn't even get a full eye orb. Rats were shit because people could just crystal out. Dragons were never summoned, just like in previous games.

If you spam R1 in DaS3 against a good player, you will get rekt.

DaS2 had parry rolls and the MonScim. Don't even pretend parrying was an issue in that game.

Most weapon arts with piss poor damage have poor damage for balance reasons. Their intended use is NOT damage but rather the utility they offer instead.

"Everyone" uses Flavor of the Month weapons in all of the games. This started in DeS and has never changed.

>>144942026
None. The only casting items for sorceries add more damage or poison (one stave)

>>144942184
then what's for 120 pvp?

>>144941920
DaS3 has more in common with BB than DaS1.

Copying DaS1 game mechanics, especially poise, would have been a massive improvement on what we got.

That said, it's still leagues better than DaS2.

>>144942202
That's pretty stupid then.

>watch pontiff video
>see guy parry
>look at parry timing
>it's press l2 exactly one second after he starts lunge
>do it in game
>never works

fuck this shit game

What exactly is the poise looking symbol buff doing while I have the lothric long spear equipped? Is it increasing my poise or a buff to help break enemy poise or what?

>>144941865
That was disproven some time ago.

THANK FUCK

>>144941782
There's a discard selected option already. Takes like 30 seconds. Fuck off.

>>144941963
most openings don't give you enought time to attacks more than once so i don't think stamina consumption is that big of an issue

>>144941516
>>144942163
Google-fu gave me this. Try it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGTu890nVJc&feature=youtu.be

>>144942232
Quality or Hollow.

>>144941803
>everything wrong

vlad the implier

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>>144942391
Wow you sure proved him wrong mnine

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>>144939358
>asking for help
>on dsg
why?

>>144942178
>I-I ENJOY to collect a complimentary Gotthards every NG+ cycle that collects dust in my inventory and clogs it up
How deluded can one person be

>>144942553
I don't because I either sell it or trade it or discard it

And then, wow it's fucking gone

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>>144942296
best face is no face at all

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PvE:
BB > DeS = DS = DS2 > DS3

PvP:
DS2 > DS > BB > DeS = DS3

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If I started NG+ and killed the Dancer (rip) but not Vordt, can I still summon 4/5 (?) Reds for a FC?

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I don't think I've had more fun than sitting outside pontiff as a sunbro tanking the fight w/ great magic shield for people. Theres just something fulfilling about this....

>>144942553
so drop it

make sure not to pick up extra Stormrulers, since you literally cannot get rid of them

>>144942651
It doesn't matter if you kill Vordt or Dancer as long as one of them is alive and their boss fog is triggered

>>144942115
hollow warden memeblades were pretty fun, i used this build before i leveled up more

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/39223

>>144942631
Found the casual.

Crossbow ocelotte i cant wait any longer, i got work tomorrow
Ggs man

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PvE wise:
DaS > DeS > DaS3 > DaS2

PvP wise:
DaS > DaS3 > DeS > DaS2

>>144942614
s-sliders?

>>144942053
>>This isn't a flaw of the game, it's a flaw of the evolution of le dank souls culture
>this is what DaS3 apologists actually think

>>someone near me uses estus, so I slap them with a FUGS attack, doing damage to their person
With the basically instant health regen and roll afterwards, no you can't punish healing. Netcode and lag doesnt help either

>>I haven't had it happen since the patchk.
I'll shadowplay it next time it happens and convert it to a webm

>>this is somehow invalidating my argument
You stated parrying didn't require skill\correct timings in das2 when that's wrong on so many levels

>>And I can in 3
Did I fucking say you couldn't? You claimed you couldn't in DaS2, when that's also wrong

>What are these oh so exceptions? Quickstep, Perserverance, Feast Bell, etc aren't worthless and Stance, Ricard'sL&P, and STOMP all do more damage than a double R1
Strange, because I do more damage with my R1's\R2's than I do with most if not all my weapon arts moves.

>>phantom range
I have pretty decent internet speeds but I've had a lot of bullshit phantom ranges in DaS3 as much as DaS2

>>Then say that shitlord
???????????? I did?

>>BB > DaS1 > DaS3 > DeS/DaS2
>BB as first

Oh okay now i understand

>>144942780
Found the Hot-Topic orphan.

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it is only human

>[BOT] King

wow

>>144942780
found the bad player

also filtered too

>>144942978
found the nigger

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>>144937472
When will we see more of Kaathe and Frampt?

>>144941985
>b-but soul memory!

SM was the only thing wrong with ds2's online, averything else it did was great. Sure, SM was a big upset, but that doesn't suddenly discredit everything else.

>>144942727
Tyty

>>144942780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>144942978
If I was a bad player, I would like DaS2 PvP

>>144942959
actually better than 95% of pc players

www.strawpoll.me/10420873/
www.strawpoll.me/10420873/
www.strawpoll.me/10420873/
www.strawpoll.me/10420873/

Event strawpoll

>>144943012
>namefag
lol

>lel xDDD I said nigger am I part of 4chinz now? :3333
fuck off leddit summercuck

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>>144943012
Why are you impersonating, yours truly?

>>144943132
what the fuck are you doing!!!!

>>144942875
>
How is DaS3 responsible when it's the players ganking?

>
>no you can't do this because I said so

>
do it ultra shitlord

>
>parrying with a GS requires more skill
>this is true
>but parrying with any parrying tool has never required skill
>but my obtuse example that isn't all of parrying in 2 is correct

>
I said I could in 2 and 3 you ultra mega shitlord

>
Stance does more than two R1s on a greatsword or straightsword, Stomp does more damage than two R1s or a not-fully charged R2. On some weapons it also gives a damage bonus for even more damage, triple ultra mega right arm of the forbidden shitlord.

>
I have decent internet and almost never have that problem against people I connect with unless they're around the globe

>
But you didn't? You said Darksword and Estoc?
Quintiple shitlord of the forbidden shits.

>
>recognizing a good game is therefore sonygger posting
Deluded and as backwards as your opinion on DaS2

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>>144943062
>he thinks DaS2 PvP is the worst out of the soulsborne games

how useful is the dragonslayer greataxe

>>144943229
No, I know it is the worst.

>>144942847
really? okay it'll take some time.
He looks kinda goofy unhollowed

>>144943225
>Deluded and as backwards as your opinion on DaS2
Fuck me the irony.

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>>144942947
reply 2 my posts

>>144943340
It's a good excuse to finally make my luck build. Can't really make a qt waifu when you have to be a raisin all the time

>>144943346
>I can't argue with him so instead I can fall back on shitposting

>>144942840
>I like fisting assholes
Anon, there are better ways of coming out of the closet than this

>>144942947
KEH HEH HEH HEH HEH

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I wish there was a game that plays like Souls, but you have a Castle or Keep as a headquarters/hub, which gets upgraded and bustling with dialogue, story, drama, access to character upgrades/buffs/etc. by recruiting people you find out in the game world. Kind of like Exit Fate. Like Firelink Shrines/Majula but cranked up by 500% and affecting everything in the game.

I wish FROM would move on to a new game that's like an evolution of souls, with the same fantasy world dungeon crawler theme but with new core mechanics like the above example, or a reworked online play system where covenants aren't a worthless afterthought and there's more interesting shit like DeS Old Monk going on.

Hey, guy that wanted the Golden Crown. Are you still here?

>dark souls 2
>better game in any way

end this meme

>>144943085
How about no event at all? Honestly does ANYBODY still want to play this shit PvP?

>>144943535
After you stop the
Dark Souls 2 is bad meme

>>144943561
Events are fun and fine but the event hosters can fuck off with pushing so many in this time span

Shitty event ideas hosted too frequently

Now that the Gladiator event is over just let things blow over for a while

>>144943535
>can actively invade as a blue instead of waiting with your thumb up your ass
it has at least 1 pro

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>only two of the covenants in Dark Souls 3 have good rewards for ranking up
>one of them doesn't fucking work 90% of the time
>you can't offer Humanity/Embers like you could in 1

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well shit

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>>144943175
I JUST WANT TO PLAY SHIT SOULS III GET OUTTA MY THREAD REEEEEEEEEE

>>144943573
It's not as bad as propehtically meme'd but it's nowhere near as good as you double niggers claim

>>144943225
>How is DaS3 responsible when it's the players ganking?
Are you fucking retarded? The PvP invasion system is heavily influenced by the amount of fucking summons the host has, you braindead idiot.

>>no you can't do this because I said so
>no you can because I said you could
Well you can't considering they've chugged and rolled before your R1 or R2 has even connected

>do it ultra shitlord
Will do, champ.

>>but parrying with any parrying tool has never required skill
>because spamming L2 with Caestus or Parrying dagger which'll eventually land a parry is so skullful, you guys!

>>I said I could in 2 and 3 you ultra mega shitlord
>>can't combo R2->R1 >>144937914
lol

>weapon arts
Except that it's easily dodgeable and when it does connect, it again, does barely any damage than an R1 or R2 could have done.

>>But you didn't? You said Darksword and Estoc?
>because darksword and estoc isn't flavour of the """month""" right now

You're trying too hard, mate.

>>144943689
its funny how you are avatar fagging

>>144943535
Literally "stop liking what I don't like"

If everyone is me, does that mean we're anonymous still?

>>144943443
>implying that was me
>"o-other people can't share the same opinon! he must be same-fagging and shitposting!!"
lol

>>144940660
you can actually see the lance clipping him. there are 2 problems in the webm.
1. the body doesn't get dragged along with the tip but rather has a slight delay, making it look like it teleports
2. when he falls, he stays suspended for a while like it's a 90's cartoon.
both mean the code is slightly fucked up, but neither have any real impact on gameplay. the giant grab webm on the other hand...

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>>144943737
Stop using my name faggot.

>>144943624
>lets just let the game die
fine by me

>>144943230
it has one of the highest ARs if you have a bit of a faith investment

good for backstabbing memeblood knights

>>144943839
no

>>144943828
Your reading comprehension is pretty shit friend.
NOTHING you said has anything to do with the fact that the other guy's reply had absolutely no argument whatsoever.

>>144943839
show me your character on dark souls with the name .

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>>144943839
But that's my name, goofball.
Do I need to get a trip?

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>>144943945
Character name is You

So i guess summerfags really like my name huh?

>>144943732
>
>host summoing more phantoms is the direct fault here

>
>more of the same argument

>
do it left arm of the shitlord

>
Parrying with the buckler or parrying dagger has never required skill, if your rose tinted glasses weren't on you'd be able to read that part you "braindead idiot." It's hard to parry with the Farron Dagger but that doesn't mean parrying with a Buckler or Pdagger isn't easy. This sort of principle is in every fucking Souls title sans Bloodborne.

>
>I-It's the same g-uy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>
Stance connects all the time you retarded nigger, STOMP isn't impossible to land like all you contrarians say.
>no comment about being proven wrong about non-damaging weapon arts
fucking KEK

>
Estoc and Darksword aren't flavor of the month because both of them are so inherently broken they're always going to be present unless nerfed harder than "adjusted stamina consumption"

Flavoer of the month would be DMB Sellswords or similar, you fucking idiot.

>>144943942
>Your reading comprehension is pretty shit friend.
the irony hurts

>mfw SL55 and haven't even beaten deacons yet

Is this the power of beating dancer early?

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>>144943378
(You)r posts are uninteresting

>>144943079
obviously?

>>144939358
Are you still here, buddy?

>>144944159
OK, so you are either genuinely retarded or pretending to be retarded. Either way this conversation is going nowhere productive.
Good talk.

>>144943970
no, you need to fuck off and post anonymously

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>>144937472
I want to cum down his throat

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>>144943535
DaS 2 has the best level design of the entire series. Miyazaki helmed games focus too much on the atmosphere of the levels. Everything is just put in plain sight and the only 'difficult' to find stuff lies behind illusory walls that messages give away completely. DaS 2 had tons of items scattered all over the place that required small detours. In DaS 1 and 3, I cleaned an area up completely in my first run through it 4 out of 5 times. In DaS 2, I had to return after the boss fight to comb-over the area on almost every level. Sometimes had to comb-over twice, even.

DaS 2 SotFS also has superior enemy placements. Say anything you want about having to fight multiple opponents at once, that's a small complaint when in contrast with DaS 3's absolutely - ABSOLUTELY terrible enemy AI's. Every single 'ambush' in DaS 3 is impotent as fuck and I don't know who they're trying to trick into getting killed because not me, nor even the stupidest Let's Players like Game Grumps get overwhelmed by most enemy layouts and ambushes.

>>144944214
something nothing special bout boys who smell like salami

>>144943970
another special snowflake to filter JUST wat /dsg/ needs woohoo

>>144944423
>DaS 2 has the best level design of the entire series.
Stopped reading there. Go fuck yourself.

>>144944339
I don't understand this, if you find someone annoying, the BEST thing they can do for you is use a trip so you can stop seeing their posts.

>pick a random weapon for a run
>get FUGS
>spent an hour rushing to FUG
>dying to abyss watcher over and over and over with basic axe from warrior
>finally get fugs
>get it +5
>get to aldrich
>1 hou 36 minutes played
>dont want to play anymore

why do ugs take SO MUCH GOD DAMN STAMINA

pontiff was the worse
who'sever idea that riposte animations take the same amount stamina as a swing should go fuck themselves

today i saw Grimdisaster in my recommended videos. i cried a little.

>>144944486
>I have absolutely no counter-argument whatsoever but I still stand by my shit, parroted opinion

OK

>>144944495
the only thing that annoys me is the name. iirc he's not explicitly shitposting

>>144944545
Weapon stamina consumption is based on weapon weight.

The Fume Ultra Greatsword is the heaviest weapon in the entire game.

How much AR do people have on average at SL55 or just in Aldritch's area in general?

what run should i do?
sorcery only, Flashsword only or Boulder Heave only?

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Is it me or is Soul Spear kind of shit? I seem to be doing almost the same damage with Great Heavy Soul Arrow, which costs way less FP. Is it just not worth it until CSS?

>>144944692
>Weapon stamina consumption is based on weapon weight.
I wish, Astora GS would be so fucking OP

>>144944784
i wish zweihander was OP

>>144944130
Holy fuck you're retarded

>>host summoing more phantoms is the direct fault here
>when it's IN THE FUCKING CODING that PvP invasions are heavily influenced by the host summons

>>more of the same argument
You're doing the exact same thing here, bud. You can't punish close estus chugs or roll spams.

>>parrying
You're literally changing your side of the fucking argument here you dumbfuck. Spamming R2 for a parry doesn't require any fucking skill

>>I-It's the same g-uy
then why did you bring it up in the first place if you agree you fucking mongoloid.

>>no comment about being proven wrong about non-damaging weapon arts
?????????????????????????????
>it again, does barely any damage than an R1 or R2 could have done.

lrn2read before you splerg out, autist

>>Estoc and Darksword
>still defending the fact that nearly every player is using those two mentioned weapons

Just stop anon, you're only embarrassing yourself here. >>>/reddit/ is that way.

>>144944723
What catalyst/stats?
You're not wrong though, in terms of efficiency Great Heavy Soul Arrow really does give you a lot more for the FP and casting time,

>>144944618
Not even gonna bother with you your tastes are so shit

>>144944723
it's an ok antigank tool since it pierces. for pure damage over time IE for pve, ghsa is far better

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>>144943439
there ya go friend

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>>144944545
I usually save any UGS for PvP
Flamberge for PvE and swapped to Lothric GreatSword for PvP
I can't stand the slow swing speed of those things when fighting enemies since they're a lot less predictable than other players

DaS 2 is a good game, your meme /shit posting won't change my opinion that DaS2 is better than DaS3

>>144940615
assuming hes a first time player, do you remember how hard those fuckers were the first time you fight them? they were fast, parried and did tons of damage

>>144944880
spawn? shouldn't the tattoo be higher?

>>144944880
Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time on such short notice

Has anyone here had any success with Drakeblood Greatsword?
It looks really fucking cool and it does OK damage in PvE but goddamn, that range.

>>144944829
>
>more of the same

>
Except it's literally my word against yours

>
I'm not changing my argument you retarded mule. You posted something that was hard to parry with in 2 and claimed all parrying in 2 was hard to do. I pointed out that in every Souls game, including DeS, has never had truely difficult parrying because of the presence of parrying tools

>
>YOu're the retard!!!!!!

>
You didn't say anything about Feast Bell, Perserverance, etc. You just kept saying the same shit about things like Stance that are blatantly wrong.

>L-LEARN 2 READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>YOU'RE JUST DEFENDING THEM
>GO TO REDDIT!!!!!

I bet as soon as an anon asks for the patch notes you're going to click on your starred websites and link them straight to reddit you hypocrite.

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>>144944967
It isn't spawn, but you can tweak it to look like him, I've tried, didn't look so good

>>144944829
>>144945032
can you 2 get a room or something?

>>144944784
Weapon stamina consumption is also based on weapon class, anon kun.

AGS is the lightest UGS, and thusly, the one that consumes the least stamina.

>>144944917
I just put all the weapons in a random generator and got FUGS. Game doesn't usually take me long to beat it, like an hour and a half all bosses, and an hour to just clear soc.

most of my time played went into getting twinkling early and suffering at the hand of abyss watchers at sl20 with no weapons
i just died to aldrich after not having enough stamina to finish out the fight and stopped playing

i really hate the ugs weapon class in this game, das2 did them better. next run im going to remove that class from the generator

>>144944830
Court +7 with 32 int.

>>144937914
DS2 is the worst in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjau31ficn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-LgsWKWfGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVqUmE3sUZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Th96wgegHw

>>144944826
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>>144943945
>>144943839
>>144943825
>>144943737
>>144943689
>>144943175
>>144943132
>>144943012

I sincerely hope you get banned.

>>144945248
avatarfagging is bannable, report him

How to fix pvp:

- Rolls cost x2 the stamina they do now
- Estus heals over time like in DS2
- Invaders prioritize all hosts equally, instead of those with more summons
- Blade of Darkmoon/Blue Sentinels don't get summoned into worlds where the host and his phantoms already outnumber the invaders
- Hosts with an invader in their world cannot summon additional phantoms

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>>144945248
i hope they do, im not trying to start shit man

>>144945314
>- Estus heals over time like in DS2
This sounds like a good idea.

>>144945314
>- Hosts with an invader in their world cannot summon additional phantoms
If only

>>144945314

Oh, one last thing, though this is less important

- Hosts don't turn invulnerable once they start entering through fog, instead it should be like DS2, where you could be staggered out of the animation.

>>144945316
Stop avatarfagging, or get a trip.

>>144945314
Here's how to fix random invasions

>Drinking Estus is the same as DaS1

argue back and forth all you want but DaS1 had the best system for drinking Estus: Stop for a second, pull the estus out, take a moment to drink for each X press

Slow, simple, and punishable

In 2 the animation was faster IIRC so you could be mobile while still regenerating the HP

In 3 you don't even have to stop moving

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>tfw you hit a silver knight with two UGS r1s and he recovers faster than you can roll away

punishable on hit
god fucking bless