/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

Ignore the autist above me.

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First for nicer map

Refugeepocalypse mod when? I want to kick out Merkel with a fascist coup and get some fucking lebensraum.

>>144822557
>>144822616
So if I can be quick enough and get cities in France before reinforcements from the Allies arrive I can win the war?

Why didn't anyone think of this?

>>144822643
Imagine the upvotes if this was reddit...

Anyone here have a download link to Veritas et Fortitudo's newest version?

>HOI 4 IS STILL NOT IN THE OP PIC

>>144822783

>>144822828
It is, blind retard.

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Add me on steam for an Hoi4 game
I've blueballed a lot tonight with promises of hoi4 games hopefully it doesn't happen again.

Add me on steam to get invited to the game.
/id/HLXen

>>144822808
Think of what?
That's exactly what Blitzkrieg is...

DLC when

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>cannot compete
goddamn /pol/ has ruined me.

>>144822801
You've said what is the most none reductionist answer to a problem hat you have been immensely reductionist towards. That's entirely loaded. Come back with an unloaded post and I'll consider responding seriously.

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>>144822828
It is but some faggot decided to replace DH

The original is way better.

>>144822808
that's literally what happened

Blitz to Paris and they should surrender with only that

>>144822991
how can regular aircrafts even compete?

>>144823060
this isnt reddit faggot stop pretending to be an intellectual

So in HOI4, besides equipment and manpower costs, is there any reason not to just have a million divisions training in paralell? I can't tell if I'm missing something.

>>144823218
you won't have the military infrastructure and supply weight to support that

>>144823214
I'm not stupid enough to answer loaded posts m8, nothing about pretending to be an intellectual.

is /gsg/ going to have some big hoi4 game or no
please it would be cool if we all were axis members

>>144823218
I usually make as much as I can supply, then tone it down and put reinforcements at high priority

>>144823365
>playing mp
You just arrived from reddit, didn't you?

>>144823060
Not everything has to be complex mate. You know what the nazis wanted to do to Slavs in eastern Europe? No, not to Jews,. to Slavs. It has a name, it's called settler colonialism and it's the worst and most permanent type of colonialism since it completely changes the character of a colony for ever and it's not reversible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settler_colonialism

And that's whats happening in Europe right now. So I think it's understandable actual Europeans might be a little bit upset at the prospect of being permanently bred off.

>>144823454
>not wanting to match wits with other people

What are you? a carebear that can't handle losing?

>>144823309
>>144823385
I see, that makes sense. I've been pretty badly limiting the rate at which I build new divisions, then.

>>144823454
no
I've been here since January
Why can't autists play mp?

>>144823529
multiplayer is banned here

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>>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.3.1
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>>[HOI4] - Crack (May force a Johan wallpaper during install)
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

>>144823356
So truth is now a loaded question?

>>144823529
>>144823605

>HoI4
>needing wits
KEK.

Anyway, reddit, you should know that mp is banned because known steamgroup members inevitably spam the thread with their gay ass MP shit as a result.

>>144823768
not a steamgroup mp but a /gsg/ mp
is it because you pirated the game?

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It appears I've started a large proxy war

>Forming the Mexican empire
>Realize the USA have every single nation in america guaranteed

That was fun while it lasted.

>>144823948
>a /gsg/mp
>the steamgroup is literally called /gsg/mp

can't make this shit up. fuck off back to your gay group.

>>144823948
Don't mind it, it will be alright as long as no one comes back to circlejerk

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MEMES

>>144823504
You will not find a single serious source of study on settler colonialism call the migrant crisis settler colonialism, it lacks a defining feature in that many or most of them have no intention of staying permanently, they have no single culture so they can't just override it, and many many other flaws.

You're either far too afraid, or you're seriously trying to make other people scared.

>>144824058
It's not even a group retard, it's just a bunch of people using the same crack.

>>144823768
You act like there's any difference between that and spamming to waggle your willy at this point.

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Any good Hoy4 mods yet?

>>144824259
>it's not even a group
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gsgmp

I guess I was wrong. You aren't a steamgroup member, you're just another reddit spastic who's come over here to try and be edgy.

>>144824291
There is no difference. They're both shitposter groups.

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5/10 of the top global trade nodes in the early 17th century, talk about a golden age of piracy.

I'd say this run has been a success. From now own I'll probably include the Haizei and Wokou as custom nations regardless of where I start, because they seem to make SEA much more interesting. Lanfong (Hakka merchant republic starting as a OPM on borneo) has been a disappointment, probably would only be interesting if played by a human, and even then, why would they play Chinese venice when they could be chinese pirates.

I'll post the Haizei ideas if anyone wants to slot them into their own game. Just remember to set their religion as anything in the eastern category except confucian.

Can I use my navy to bombard shit in HOI4

>>144824005
They're only guaranteed from countries outside the Americas. The US won't interfere until they have the Pax Americana focus.

>>144824436
Huh? What's edgy about multiplayer?

>>144822610
Depends. The new political system and the sandbox nature of the game is immensely fun. But if you're not into that, then I'd reccomend going back to HOI3 (for massive railroading) or DH for a little sandbox, but not full retard. AI, is somewhat broken. The game can be extremely easy. Other than that I have not noticed any major issues. The game definitely has potential, and can ripen into a pretty good /gsg/ with the right fixes and an overhaul mod or two

I'd reccomend it: pirate it or buy and play it (for less than two hours if you want to return it), to see if you like it or not.

>>144824152
Holy shit the explosion icon in the notification section are the exact same image from stellaris.

Why does paradox reuse shit so much.

>>144824606
So you don't deny that you came over here from reddit then? You faggots stand out like a sore thumb.

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Uhhhh, Germany? y'okay there buddy?

this invasion has being going on for multiple months now and it's a stalemate of "sweden holds 3 well defensible provinces and Germany doesn't want to pull any of the hundred divisions it has on the peacetime border with the Russians."

Where do you see your justification of war? I need to see how many days I have left before it finishes

>>144824747
I actually noticed that paradox reused a shit ton of icons and textures from stellaris in HOI4. HOI3 and Vicky 2 also had a lot of similar icons and textures.

Where can I see the country tags? Fucking nationalist spain always loses so I'm gonna use cheats

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>>144824807
The AI (just like everyone predicted) is completely broken. It's even worse than HOI3 in release.
>don't worry Goyim, pay $14.99 for the new AI Germany DLC, while you're at it, want to buy the major nations AI bundle for a dis punted $99.99, you'll even get a special Latin American leader portrait pack for free, valued at $2.99

>>144824756
there is literally nothing wrong with being a redditor

>>144824756
The only way to get rid of reddit is to get rid of HPM prove me wrong.

>>144825174
Weird. In my games Nationalist Spain almost always wins, even without me bothering with it

why can't other paradox games have pops and economy?

>>144825189
>worse than hoi 3 at release
>paradox charging for an AI upgrade

I think you've let the memes pollute your brain friend.

>>144823632
Man Kaiser Willy was handsome. I'd open my lederhosen for his bavarian sausage, if you know what I mean.

>>144825142
diplomatic screen for your cunt
or at the top right, there's an (!) that'll bring up closed pop-ups; if you have a justification, it should be there

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Hmm... Really Makes you think...

>>144823984
That's so ugly it sort of looks pretty. But what did you do to get most of Asia in a war.

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>this is what greeks actually believed

>>144825174
Send volunteers you retard. If republican spain wins it'll be because Stalin carries their asses. Only time I saw republican spain win was when the war triggered quite late on and Stalin sent tanks.

>>144825339
Too much work and it scares the lowest common denominator

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>>144825339
>play as Yapan
>no matter what you get ganged on by the whole world
>chinese supply is shit no matter what so you get bogged down
welp no more yapan

>>144825517
Communist China joined the Commintern when I dec'd them. Then I just decided to dec England and Netherlands because my War Goal for them was running out.

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>>144825379
He's is handsome.

I like Tzar Nicky better.

>>144825142
If you look on the diplomacy tab, when you hover over the bullseye on the left it'll tell you when it'll be done
>>144825339
HOI4 kinda has pops

>>144824410
Fuck off arumba.gif

Too many pixels.

>>144825339
Because those games aren't about the things that Vicky is so it'd be pointless computation that would only make the games work less well.

Added complexity doesn't always mean better, it usually means worse because after a point things just take away from other things.

>>144825680
No it doesn't

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>>144825639
How about young Stalin? notemaynotbestalinatallbutinsteadapaidmodelsincerealstalinwasuglyasshitgeorgian

Frogcucks gave up in real life in like 3 weeks, so how come my heavily upgraded and researched 100 divisions are taking like 4 months? I already have Panzer IIIs in early 1940 for fuck's sake

>>144822572
Over it's predecessor

Fucking learn english OP

>>144825727
>a better simulation takes away from things

Yeah, I can surely see how having an economy in HoI or EU would take away from thing and not simulate things as supply or production

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>>144825376
>implying I meant that the overall release was as bad as HOI3, and not specifically the AI
>implying that (((Pdox))) won't go to further lengths to milk the massive tits of its fat, autistic, man-child fanboys for more cash

>>144823984
Are you spamming the shit out of heavy cruisers?

there is nothing wrong with mp

>>144825527
I already sent volunteers, 2 panzer divisions led by Rommel.

>>144822991
LITTLE
WHITE
PROPS

>>144825863
If yoh declare war on Belgium, Netherlands, and France at the same time it'll slow you the fuck down

>>144823632
Based Cobra

>>144825727
if they ever try to make Cold War game (or make HoI4 official Cold War mod or whatever) they'd need, at the very least, population and economy simulation since the conflict between capitalist and communist ideologies (and the particulars of the system) plus Cold War is when stuff like living standards and wealth of countries started actually mattering and being discussed.

>>144825824
That's not young Stalin you retard, that's a model who posed for the cover of a book. Young stalin in reality was an ugly sperg who always hid his face.

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HOI 4 question here.

What should I do about fleet composition, and more broadly, submarine warfare? How do I make the best use of my subs and how do I kill enemy ones?

>>144825863
Because what the Germans did IRL was a miracle. You're also shit at the game

>>144825973
I didn't attack the Maginot head on, I went through the low countries but the fucking frogs sent a stack of like 8 divisions to Luxembourg that slowed me down for a while

>>144825865
I'd actually really like medieval economy in CK2, at least to simulate flow of goods, counties (and baronies (since cities were extremely important economically) producing goods) and stuff like gold and silver and copper producing counties because that would completely change up the game and people's goals. Right now, as long as the county is feudal and not completely shit in tech it's fine which is lame,.

>>144826081
just spam submarine production, convoy raid, starve enemy nation of resources.

>>144825883
Yes the AI which literally just stopped if you did something it didn't understand was definitely better.

The AI that would always do certain things, etc,etc. And yes I am implying that, because even trying to conceive what would make you think that actually made me lose braincells.

>>144825865
It wouldn't, the economies were completely different and simulating them would be computationally intensive and incredibly difficult to make even slightly realistic, even behind layers and layers of abstraction and would almost certainly not do a better job of simulating war economy which is a TOTALLY different beast to normal economy which is why it fundamentally changed many of the economists that had to run them.

>>144826161

Yeah but like, how many subs should I put in a group and all that?

>>144826137
I was asking for advice but I'm glad you got your opportunity to shitpost

>>144825973
But why. Not that guy but it took a retarded amount of time to beat Belgium, Netherlands and France and I had like 40 medium tank divisions that were slightly ahead of time and another 130 infantry divisions.

>>144826182
> the economies were completely different and simulating them would be computationally intensive and incredibly difficult to make even slightly realistic, even behind layers and layers of abstraction and would almost certainly not do a better job of simulating war economy which is a TOTALLY different beast to normal economy which is why it fundamentally changed many of the economists that had to run them.
Nah you are wrong
Making up shit to why you think actually having economy and population simulation would somehow detract from a game about nations

>>144826016
Yes they would, but those are the defining features of that conflict in many ways as you said, it wouldn't be just throwing extra layers on, it would be the core of the game. Either population, living standards, art, etc or hardcore espionage and prestige stuff I suppose.

>>144826156
Oddly, I don't feel like it'd clog CK2 up as much as it would other games, probably because the personal focus makes it feel more sensible to have a bit more economy simulation.

>>144826290
Fight them one at a time next time, it's always been that way if you declare war on all three at the same time

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>>144826182
t.Johan

>>144826182
>lot of unnecessary words just to be wrong in saying that making economy more complex would make the game worse

How do I conquer the world as Ryukyu in Mare Nostrum?

>trying to micro armies and shit around
>map is clunky and don't know if I'm moving to the right province
>front lines start overlapping or being weird and constantly have to move them around
>end up just making a massive army, putting all my dudes in it, make a single front line and an offensive line on the opposite side of the country
>click the go button
>it all works out
wew

>>144826392
>Oddly, I don't feel like it'd clog CK2 up as much as it would other games
There is actually an economy mod for Ck2 but it runs like shit, even worse than the normal game because of all the extra things the engine has to keep track of.

So there's no way to add functional economy before Paradox unfucks their game/releases better optimized Ck3.

>>144826269
I was being completely serious about the first part though. What Germany did IRL WAS a massive miracle, which should be difficult to replicate in-game. To answer your question more full, what did your battle plans look like? I find that after a little while, the AI fucks it all up and I have to redo everything

>>144826307
In the kind of war economy we're talking about things are absolutely incommensurable. No matter what you think this is the reality that was observed.

If you try to reduce it to some kind of retarded supply and demand style money system then you just get pure retardation.

how do i do things

>>144826664
>population in any of these games isn't important
>economy isn't important
It's not like they tried to starve other countries, bombed supply lines and embargoed each other
It's not like they hit the population at all, the main source of man power

>>144826620
Ah when I say that it wouldn't clog it up, I mean it wouldn't clog it up gameplay and design wise, it would certainly do so computationally.

>>144826489
Dividing design and development focus will never work well, on top of that there's a whole slew of reasons why these economies are complex. And there's such a thing as feature bloat.

>>144826650
I had 4 stacks, one on each Low country and then one along the Maginot, I took Holland and Belgium pretty quick and then tried to curve south but a frog deathstack at Luxembourg held me up for a while so my 4th army took a while to finally have a decent chance at breaking through the Maginot

>>144826650
Battleplan is the worst fucking system in the game. It's retardedly difficult to actually change things on the fly and AI is completely brain dead and will just stand around doing nothing.

I drew my meme arrows around Poland, started war and took Warsaw but there was still some fighting in the south and east. Except it's fucking impossible to disentangle the mess that five different finished plans overlapping over each other and the retarded pastel soft borders and the map that keeps grouping all my units up unless I'm at maximum zoom distance and it just made me want to punch a monitor.

I ended up just manually ordering few divisions to mop up the rest of Poland and manually sent the rest to invade France.

>>144826781
>implying you have to simulate these to a minutia to have them simulated.

The only thing that could probably really do with being included more is food supplies, which I don't think it has, other than that you can prevent supply shipments, bomb supply lines, and everything else you said.

>>144826854
literally hitler

>>144826882
Do you attach artillery to your infantry divisions?

Do you mix up your armour divisions?

>>144827020
I had 2 units Improved artillery 2 behind my 3x3 infantry in each division

My armor was something like 2x2 Panzer 3s and then a 2 Panzer 2s behind them, plus anti tank guns and some support shit

>>144826993
>le slippery slope
Adding population and a simple economic system beyond "this shit goes to produce tanks" isn't detailing everything to minutia

>>144826030
>>144825824
Hid his face because he was covered in smallpox scars from his childhood. Real Stalin looks fucked up up close.

can the amazing person that runs the mega pls upload hoi4 ty

What's the best army composition in HoI4?

>>144827197
He also had weirdly high voice with strong Georgian accent that sounds weird in Russian/to Russians. In his life he only ever held one public speech, 1945 after Germany's surrender, and it was mostly meh to demotivating.

He was definitely no Hitler.

>>144827176
How do you simulate governmental ability to ad hoc things economically like they often did?

There is a population system but it's obscured and I don't know how much it permeates, I expect it's reasonably simple though. The only thing you could really gain from pops is ideology and resistance based stuff which is currently reasonably abstracted.

Too much economy detracts from the wargame.

>>144827446
>Too much economy detracts from the wargame.
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WAR IS ABOUT?

THIS IS THE MODERN PARADOX AUDIENCE!

BRAVO JEWHAN!

>>144827386
3inf/1 eng/1huss/4cav

>>144827394
I thought he had one before the siege of moscow?

Why is China always so stupid fucking strong in Paracum games? Fuck this bullshit

What's a basic guide to quell resistance growth besides Ideology and advisors?

>>144825520
>Implying it wasn't true then

>>144827526
>t. Grzegorz

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>>144827446
>The only thing you could really gain from pops is ideology and resistance based stuff which is currently reasonably abstracted.
>reasonably
>the US turns fascist in one year
>reasonable
>Nazi Germany turning communist in one year
>reasonable
>USSR turns fascist in one year
>reasonable

>Too much economy detracts from the wargame.

>>144827523
and the simplified economy the game has motivates you to war. Too much complexity would detract, and adding it badly would detract. Getting it right is not simple, especially if you want to make any of the things the economists and politicians of each nation did in WW2 possible without it just being an event. Economy is not nearly as simple as you seem to think it is vickyfag. Victoria's economy is so simple it shouldn't even really be called economy.

>>144827446
>Too much economy detracts from the wargame.
I mean, economy is the basis for war. Even in the simplest, most primitive forms, you have to give your soldiers something (like food, or free plunder of the enemies/rape of enemy women) to pay them for fighting. And that still holds true throughout the entire history up until such time we create robot soldiers.

Germany literally lost both world wars because of economy, the first one because they got choked out and the second out because they got produced out. Britain in the 19th and early 20th and the US in the mid to late 20th and 21st century largely went/go to war because of economy. etc etc etc

War is economy, there is no difference between the two. All separation is artificial and present because of overly simplistic simulation.

How in the mother fuck do I possibly play Canada in HoI 4? They are incapable of building fucking anything and have no good factory capacity.

>>144827792
>doing something would be hard
>therefore it shouldn't be done
gas yourself

Any talk about a Game of Thrones mod for HOI4 yet?

>>144827526
Why not only cav
>t. mongols

>>144827837
Shitpost on 4chan and export maple syrup

>>144827792
On the other hand complex economy could create more complex and interesting strategies rather than "magically produce units and then throw them at enemies magically produced units".

The way the war is set up, WW2 realistically is extremely likely to evolve into a cold war between US and at least one other faction. In real life US won the cold war not through military or even diplomacy but through economy.

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soon

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damn, donald trump BTFO!

>>144828014
>muh wunderwaffe
>4.3 km/h max speed

Should you just add as much support to divisions as you can? Is there a disadvantage to this?

>>144827878
I haven't watched Game of Thrones but how would that work I thought it was a fantasy dragon world.

Does HoI4 slow down to fuck lategame for everybody?

>>144827792
>Economy is not nearly as simple as you seem to think it is vickyfag.
But everyone that has any serious amount of hours into Vicky wants more complex economy. If Paradox could be trusted to make more complex economic and population simulation in Vicky 3 I'd be all over it and that hypothetical Vicky 3 would be my favorite game of all time.

>>144828014
>4.20 per month
ayy lmao

>>144828049
#KillForHill
#BernTheWorld
#WhiteGenocideNow

>>144828068

It's a slow death.

>>144828078
The cost.

>>144828106
Actually even a simple economy and population systems as victoria 2 does would infinitely make these games better

>>144828049
What the fuck is with the border shade and colouring over the great lakes?

>>144827850
You have two choices with video game development, well three but one is never going to happen.

You prioritise and make your game focused and good, or you aim too high and make your game shit. Or you do the economically unfeasible shit of spending forever on developing it which will never happen unless a billionaire is just paying to get some dream game made with no desire for profits.

>>144827807
and abstracting that in terms of resources is functional, or will you just ignore the major amounts of cheating the system that people have done over the centuries. Economics is a tool, or a description if you wanna take that route.

>>144827746
>USSR turns facist in one year

Granted that's the only one I know for a fact is bullshit.

>>144818251
>Union of Red Dragons
>Thunder Dragon Empire
Shit, I don't know which one to pick.

>>144828131
#CrossedNoBorders

>>144827746
The alignment faction in HoI4 is completely retarded. It's honestly just a button that you press that says "I want to be THIS ideology in this playthrough". And then it magically happens. It's on the Stellaris level of realism.

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how do i build factories
it's been building those chihuahua ones forever and i need military factories in jalisco for tanks
im new to this
help

>>144828086

I think he's alluding to a TC that would essentially put GoT in the HOI 4 engine. He doesn't mean having GoT people driving tanks or whatever.

>>144828167
Except for that, nothing right? Also cost is not really a big problem imo, industry is pretty easy in this game

>>144828192
see:

dorf fortress

all we need is an autist who can actually code and willing to devote his entire life to making a shitty grand strat game

>>144828226
I know, but the corporate apologist shill thinks it's "reasonable"

>>144828049
hi bernie
>>144828078
yes, because most likely youll get bottlenecked by infantry equipment rather than support equipment which doesnt get lost during battle

plus its easy as fuck to just deploy a division without the support there and let it reinforce later

its pretty OP imho

>>144827792
>Victoria's economy is so simple
hello rob!
you probably don't understand 1% of it

>>144828185
lakes are considered parts of provinces, its stupid, i know
>>144828234
Have you set focuses towards industry? it got me about 3 factories each, military and civilian

>>144828226
>It's honestly just a button that you press that says "I want to be THIS ideology in this playthrough".

I like that, though.

I wish you could set up the whole world beforehand and just change the values for any country you wanted. That would be sweet.

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modders are fixing it

>>144828220
#bordersarejustimaginarylines

>>144828282
I do mean GoT people driving tanks

Is the blitzkrieg scenario worth playing on anyone?

>>144828468

Oh, well in that case you should kill yourself.

>>144828423
>I wish you could set up the whole world beforehand and just change the values for any country you wanted
Don't worry, there'll be wealth of tacos DLC with custom nations AND ideologies feature for just 19.99$ or 199.99€

>>144828049
TRUMP ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>144828384
can Victoria simulate the ability of nations to manipulate their currency in any way? if not then it's already beyond simplistic if you want to call it an economy and/or politics simulator.

>>144828318
I dunno if I'd say he can code, but he has passion.

>>144828678
>trade and occupations simulated down to individual pops
>simplistic
wew

I've basically taken all of Germany and the UK wants to divide up Germany?
Do I do it or is it rightful commie clay?

>>144828318
All greatest works are works of passion of one or maybe two autists that devote all their time and energy to it. And they always end up niche but still firmly in the creator's control or popular but ruined to death by the jewry

>>144828873
He's going for the slipper slope
>you either simulate everything in the economy or mana points are as good as the current system

>>144828894
The entire world is rightful commie clay, comrad. Onwards for the eternal revolution!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8EMx7Y16Vo&ab_channel=VladimirGLenin

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>>144828068
It's going to work, I am already ramping up production enough to put at least one unit of them in every infantry division, it will be slow but I think it will give the edge against the allies

will kaiserreich make their mod for hoi4?

>>144829076
I've heard on leddit that they will but can't access the forums because I'm a dirty pirate.

>>144829076
I asked some of the team on the KR forums a few months ago and o got a "maybe"

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>>144828395
>Have you set focuses towards industry? it got me about 3 factories each, military and civilian
Yes, it's giving me factories
it's pretty slow though

found this on leddit, guide to capitulating Britain in 6 months

https://youtu.be/xrV8ljl56CA

>>144828423
heya reddit

>>144829076

Building on this, will Blackice make a mod for 4?

>>144828549

>>144828468
Is someone else but yeah, I want the GoT world 500 years later.

>>144825893
No. I don't know why that went so well. I guess the RN is just decrepit.

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>military hovercrafts
Arent those rubbery cushions prone to getting damaged and wouldnt that immediately disable the craft?

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>>144829221

>>144828234
You have 12 civilian factories.
5 of them are locked into producing consumer goods because of your economic policy.
3 of them are being used to trade stuff.
You have 4 leftover factories that you can build stuff with.
All of those 4 factories are working on building 2 more factories in Chihuahua.
You can only build the thing at the top of your list, and all factories will be automatically assigned to it, up to 15 when then overflow moves to the second factory and so on.
The little number beside the factory shows how may levels of it you'll build, you have 2.
It will build all the factories in Chihuahua then move on to the next thing.
You have an awfully long queue for only 4 factories.

>>144829265
>Pretending to be me.
Fucking epic.

So HoI4 is actually so fucking fun. What went right?

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>>144829215

This is what people think is "reddit" now?

I tried playing Italy for my first game and invaded Yugoslavia. I tried to use the battleplan thing but after about a year my army had made little headway so I took manual control of my troops and ended the war in about a month. Am I using doing this wrong or is the AI just really useless?

Thank god for moddb

http://www.moddb.com/mods/hearts-of-iron-iv-the-great-war1

>>144829306

They aren't used while under fire.

They're for transporting large amounts of stuff very quickly to a beachhead which has already been secured.

>>144829345
Ah, OK. That makes a lot more sense. Can only civilian factories build more buildings of any kind?

>>144827878
>>144828086
>>144828282
>>144828468
>>144829265
What would the factions be?

Has anyone actually fascist couped Russia as a foreign nation? How do you get through the 'home of the revolution' modifier?

>>144829394

They got rid of all the shitty micromanagement stuff.

I mean, I like micromanaging. I even played HOI 3 with BICE so that I could indulge in even more micromanagement.

But the game actually is more fun without it.

>>144829432
did you activate the battleplan?

>>144829556
II just told I haven't watched the show, how would I know?

>Italy sends volunteer forces to help me in my war
>They just sit in the capital instead
Is Mussolini retarded

>>144829076
http://cs.servegame.com/kaiserreich/thread-2092.html
>Today I am proud to announce that there will be in fact a Kasierreich-Mod for Hearts of Iron 4. We are looking forward to provide the original mod gameplay aswell as new additions to the Mod. Keep in mind that this is a really early state of development and we will push more information once we have finished some work. So stay tuned for the first release.

>>144829821
No, he's italian

>>144829292
No I mean it looks like you had 112 crusiers in that fight.

>>144829821
Maybe they are defending your capital?

>>144822895
sent ;)

>>144830000
Against Saudi Arabia? I'm conquering them with 8 divisions. I didn't even need Mussolini's help, I just accepted so his feelings aren't hurt

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REEE THEY CANT FUCKING DO THIS


I WAS BREAKING THROUGH THEIR LINES

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literally unplayable

>try to invade South America as USA
>"SORRY BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INTEL, TRY ASSIGNING MORE SHIPS OR PLANES THERE"
>literally my entire navy there

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>>144829057
>tank
>going slower than walking pace
>one per an entire division
>this is the mind of a nazi on wunderpowder

mega with HOI4 when?

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Every single goddamn Paracum game does this, why do they keep overtuning China so much???

Japan has lost almost as many men as China and got pushed out of South Asia and Korea even with mine, Germany and Italy's help ffs

Fucking retarded

>>144830089
>oh god der fuhrer is doing something, quick lets send some men so it looks like I'm helping
>oh god mussolini is trying to help, I'd better not turn it down so he doesn't think I don't like it.

It's just like my Japanese animes.

>>144829702
Yes, but it seemed to get stuck a lot.
Like if they had one heavily defended province holding out then the rest of the front line would stop and wait instead of advancing or surrounding it.

>>144830147
Yeah I was playing as the soviets last night and only Japan was left after I steamrolled Europe. Couldn't invade the home islands because of that meme shit no matter how many boats and planes I put there so I just gave up and closed the game.

1942 so no nukes either.

>>144830236
Pandering to the chinks

Now that the dust is settled, is HoI4 fun?

>>144830316
I understand the concept of it, but you can't order your boats or plans to scout for you.

>>144830362
yes but only as a major

>>144830362
Yes, it's p gud imo.

>>144830362

Yes.

But it's not perfect. Expect it to be better once more time has passed and mods/patches have fixed all the flaws.

>>144830274
yeah, I think the AI has problems if it has a bunch of smaller armies vs a death stack

>>144830362
Much better than Stellaris

>>144830364
Basically, until then it shouldn't be in the game since it doesn't really work.

>>144830419
>>144830438
>>144830462
>>144830513
hello /v/eddit

>>144830197
once I save the japs I'll send thousands of these things across the rhine

>>144830541
Hopefully they add some techs or unique planes for it. Use older planes to scout and such. Be a neat national focus.

>>144830362

It's fun but extremely retarded and memey

A lot of great ideas like the production mixed with a lot more bad ones

>>144830236
Japan didn't actually manage to beat China, they were still very much fighting. If anything it's a bit easy to win.

>>144829541
civilian factories build any type of building or fortification
military factories build tanks and guns and planes
dockyards build boats

>>144830568
Hello tumblr, does hitler simulator offend you?

>>144830574
why not just have soldiers push 120mm artillery by hand :^)

>>144830236
>thunder dragon empire

So here's one of my biggest complaints about the HOI4 AI: the completely retarded way it handles amphibious assaults.

I was playing as the Yugos last night and the Allies would send like ten amphibious assaults a year at random places along the coastline of Axis nations, with between only 1 and 3 divisions actually being landed. Needless to say, these were mopped up immediately in every case, but the Allies kept on doing it all the way until the end of the war.

The only one that made any headway at all was what I assume was some sort of triggered invasion meant to resemble D-Day, but even that was quite pathetic and easily mopped up by Yugo forces.

As we speak I am watching the British and American forces attempt to seize Japanese-controlled China with a grand total of 2 divisions, by landing them at Fuzhou (which if you don't know your geography very well, is on the Chinese side of the Taiwan Strait).

This really needs to be Paradox's first fix, this shit is just silly.

>>144830780
>not realising all the stupid asian names are literally this retarded if actually translated to english

Genocide mod HOI4 (national focus) should be out next Sunday friends

is there a legit torrent out yet?
i don't want the blood of another stellaris on my hands, this time i'm going to try before i buy

>>144830707
Only thing that offends me is that conc camps aren't buildings you can construct in a state that moderately reduce population in a state and significantly reduce unrest in a state.

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WHOH WHAT JUST HAPPENED GUYS

>>144830831
why sunday, not today? Also what effect/modifier does it give?

>>144830804

Oh and full disclosure, I am playing on Easy right now while I figure the game out, but this is just crazy bad.

Does it get better on the higher difficulties?

>>144830892
give it all to germany

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>>144830708
Soon I will be able to produce one of these every month or even more, it will be unstoppable!

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>>144830863
>significantly reduce unrest in a state.

Lad, the nazi/italo/croats killed over 1 million yugoslav civilians and it certainly didn't "significantly reduce unrest in a state"

>>144830863
Hope there is a mod for that then.

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So how did they choose which Nazi portraits to grey out? Hitler, Göring, Goebbels and Himmler are greyed out, but Dönitz, Keitel, Bormann, Ribbentrop and a lot of others aren't. Where's the logic in that?

>>144830659
OK, I understand. Thanks.

>>144831017
All the ones that scared Jewhan were removed.

>>144830986
God speed you complete nutjob. Very, very slowly give them frogs what for.

>>144830912
That would influence how easily you can deal with it. Odds are they're probing for a port to secure, if they get one they'd ship men stationed nearby there probably.

>>144831017

They were Real Nazis™, the others were good Germans who dindu nothing wrong, they were just on their way to church in Moscow when the raycist american police shot them for being aryan.

>>144830986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJvgESR920

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R8 the first 8 player autism game we just did.
USA, Germany, Italy, Nat Spain, Hungary, Sweden, Switzerland, Romania

>>144831017
Probably just infamy. If the average person knows them probably greyed out.

>>144831152
>That would influence how easily you can deal with it.

Yeah, that's fine and all. I'm more annoyed by them constantly sending troops to random places and then doing it again and again after the first couple times didn't work out.

They'll also try doing this as early as 1940, which seems very wrong to me.

>>144830986
you're literally making the same dumb mistakes the real nazis made

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There's nothing that upsets me more in vanilla than stuff like this.
The artifacts in the vanilla image are so abundant that it looks like someone saved the image with a 20% quality several times.
You can't even see the flag in the vanilla image.

I don't believe shit like this happens accidentally.

>>144830912
same thing happens as i'm playing germany but early in the war they managed to land a large number of divisions and i had to divert a lot of divisions from the east to clean it up

>>144831017
>grey out
They're not greyed out on mine. is this only on the german version or what?

Can you form a modern Russian Empire or a Neo-Byzantine empire as the Greeks in HoI4?

>>144831445
yep

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>>144831194
>tfw you were just peacefully making lamp screens and soaps out of jews when suddenly evil murricans kick down your front door

>>144831013
Yugos are special case, they're extremely hot headed and the land itself is both remote, out of the way of all major offensive lines, and shit so there was never a great need to retake it

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>>144831370
Anyway, while I keep doing the economy stuff I moved on the US to end event spam.

All province events will be country events now, here's an example of one.

>>144831314
There were technically some raids on the cost and the like. Besides it's better than the AI going full passive. if it can probe and find opportunities then good for it.

>>144831348
I'm not at war with the allies directly, I am pumping japan full of fighters and tanks along with being about a year away from being able to build a nuke every 10-15 days

>>144831457
There's a mod for Byzantium formation as Greece.

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what i thought would happen
>play some USA
>maybe have some cool naval battles with carriers
>plan invasions with tacticool arrows on the map
>then dispense freedom in europe

what actually happens
>plan my tech for four hours while doing nothing
>war finally breaks out
>germany cant break through benelux
>loses 3 million in manpower on maginot line
>japan loses against china
>i send some infantry and take berlin
>nazis fall
>soviet union declares war on allies over romania
>they send their whole army into romania
>i encircle all of it with some heavy tanks and motorized i built
>moscow falls same year

>>144831257
>Switzerland

kys my man

>>144831017
How long until a proper portraits and events mod?

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>produce newer model of plane
>older model stockpile increases

is this a bug or a feature?

>>144831493
what about polish partisans then?

The whole Siege of Warsaw and all that jazz...

And there were loads of paramilitary operations of russians in the occupied territories as well.

Basically, the slavs rebelled, the jews and the gyppos didn't, concentration camps or not (something something complex topic, ethnic national minorities in occupied areas, something)

>>144831642
>>germany cant break through benelux
This and Japan always losing against China is pissing me off. Benelux and China both need a nerf.

>>144831683
Your divisions are upgrading to new planes and putting the old ones into storage.

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>>144831495
For all events, it has the chance of spreading to 4 states. I didn't change MTTHs, but effects are doubled.

Each event will give a province modifier for one year that will make it impossible for the provinces to be targeted again, so even if it's possible to get an event 3 times in a year, you can stop getting it once they target all states they can.

I try to keep the random element with the stuff and I made a few changes - a few events would fire as long as you had any non slave (or a slave state), but the effects are only for non colonial states. So now they only fire if you have eligible non colonial slave/non slave states.

Some, like the ones that mention yankees or dixies, also only fire and affect states with yankee/dixie pops.

>>144831683
both

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>set trade to Limited Exports
>"hmmm, I've got quite a lot of surplus here, maybe I can trade some of this stuff away for a factory"
>sets trade to Free Trade
>exports 100% of my resources, forcing me to import the things I already produce

Why does the game do this?

>>144829934
>CV
>Cruisers

Those are carriers anon...

>>144831683
squadrons upgrade to newer design and are discarding the old model into storage?

>>144830362
10/10 with 11/10 potential

>>144831818
>>144831763
I see, thanks

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Has anyone figured out how to make custom nations yet?

I want to make Southern Rhodesia as a commonwealth nation and Egypt as a UK puppet.

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>>144831348
>he doesn't build Wunderwaffen
Look at him and laugh

>>144831683
Perhaps the old ones become cheaper since the new ones are the ones with real worth.

>>144831803
>112 carriers by 1939

>>144831891
>Has anyone figured out how to make custom nations yet?

same way as you do in EU4, Vicky 2 etc

How feasible is a facist Poland run where you ally with Germany to remove vodka?

>>144832023
Give them danzig and they'll probably be perfectly happy to let you join them.

Okay goys, are there any national focus mods being made for minors right now or are most modders playing the game to figure out balancing shit? Especially considering how fucked up the Axis/fascist powers get thus far.

I've been autistically drawing up national foci with muh realism for south americans, central americans, and chinks but idk if I'm pissing in the wind because someone who's better at balancing is on the job.

>>144830574
Are there even bridges on the Rhine strong enough to carry the weight of all those concrete boxes?

>>144832081
I'd be willing to do that, my bigger concern would be them not sending help or not when the USSR inevitably attacks, I know the Frogs and Nigels already don't do shit to help against Germany

>>144832131
Most mods are just balanced through trial and error. Just make your mod and have fun with it.

>>144832081
http://i.imgur.com/u6pdyj2.jpg

>>144829057

>Venezuelan Volunteers

Anyone else noticing this in all their games?

>>144832182
You have a nice contiguous border with them, and they have one with the reds. I can't imagine they'd not help in the east.

>>144832239
Bringing the memes mod when?

>>144832131
>>144832239
Wrong person sorry

How do I beat the Japs as China?

I guess uniting is the first task.

But I just can't take on Japan's superior units

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no shermans are going to get though here

>>144832434
Be defensive at first, tactical retreat is not a bad thing. Then wait until Japan gets wrecked by the allies to launch a counter-offensive.

Is deep battle a meme?

>>144830362
a solid 6/10 which is better than most parajew games at launch

>>144832434
You have rivers and mountains everywhere, defend at those and just beware of naval attacks. Eventually you should be able to abuse the supply bottlenecks they'll face and push back.

>>144832434
Protect all your coast, especially Shanghai and Hong Kong as that's where Japan will launch a naval invasion. Plus, because of the supply problems and PRC you don't even need that many divisions in the north. Try to upgrade your weapons as soon as possible and try to get mountaineers for the northern front, whatever works for the coastal defense.

Mind you, I haven't played as China yet so this is all just stuff I think will work.

>>144830362
Just for having a modern WW2 game other than the autism simulator that is HOI3 it is worth it

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>>144832442
too bad the game is abstracted to shit, those steel death boxes would be tactibombed to shit by a few juggs

>>144831929
I saw a play through of this game where someone took Poland and switched their nation's ideology 5 times before 1944. Fascist > Communist > Democratic > Communist > Democratic. This person also beat both Germany and the USSR by taking all of his divisions, dumping them into one army, then setting them to go in one direction in a line from north to south on mass. This was with an army made up of 90% infantry, some light tanks, and bi-panes.

Realism is not even in the same universe as this game.

>Just creating arrows and watching armies move around
>Have no idea what I'm doing but I'm winning I guess.

I have no idea what going on in this clusterfuck on the screen right here, all I know is that lots of slavs are dying and Greece is becoming Groß. Turkroach massacre soon.

>>144832850
If it wasn't, everyone would just complain about aircraft being too op

>>144830892
It's like EU3

The meme arrows are fun from a plotting standpoint

I just wish there was more depth to it other than drawing a line on the other side of the country, the potential is there for elaborate offensives

>>144832750
makes sense.

I think mountaineers are the key to winning.

I also think it's a bad idea to try to build more factories + improve infra

China is so far behind at the start that it needs to start pumping out units asap to defend the coast

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>>144832902
forgot my image.

How did they go from micro assigning commanders with traits to small stacks of divisions to having one commander control hundreds of divisions?

>>144822572
Does anyone know how to keybind a scroll wheel to zoom on Hoi4? My scroll wheel is fucked, and I don't have any other working mouse.

>>144832206
Well it'd be easier if I could just free ride off someone else's labor if they're already doing it.

>>144832239
>implying I would play something for fun that isn't historically real and serious

How is it even remotely possible to establish naval superiority for Sea Lion, Britcucks just swim around with a 40 unit naval deathstack

>>144833084
does that actually work?

no penalties for creating huge army stacks?

>>144831727
The japan problem is that there's no massive tech imbalance like there was in real life, they are both using the same guns and stuff, and there isn't much that can be done about it seen as there's only like 4 gun levels in hoi4

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Vicky question

Want to play a USA game and focus on pop growth. Usually I'd spam elections and switch parties to get ez militancy but obviously this is impossible as a republic. My question is, how would you go about getting the healthcare reforms ASAP without doing the lose-a-war to get militancy meme?

>>144833291
There's no penalty like in HOI3 but there's a limit to how many divisions can carry out an order in a province so a lot of them will sit around idle

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>Cant fucking Naval transport ships from Italy to Syria.

Based Johan making sure my troops are well exercised

>several fleets patrolling everywhere
>still naval invasions get through

why

>>144833084

By realizing it was retarded to make you individually assign every single commissioned officer from the mess hall in division #451 to SACEUR.

I wish you could assign planes to an army and they would gain air superiority/provide air support in any area the army fights in

>>144833469
Welcome to abstraction, just manually move the boats yourself if you want to actually get shit done.

>>144833469
This is how Mario Pizzeria keeps getting cucked by 1 marine division Aussie and Nigel shitposters in my game as Germany

>>144833480
Hey, if you don't give mess hall 451 the best commander possible this whole thing is gonna fall apart.

>>144833565

"An army marches on its stomach" - Napoleon

>>144833565
>Culinary Master
>Leftovers Genius
>Order of the Iron Sandwich

>>144833710
+1
Agree
(You)

>>144833710
don't forget to keep reassigning him to the most important front to give you the well fed bonus to all your men.

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>Britain ponders whether to intervene in Benelux 5 years after it fell to the Germans.

>>144822746
What did you mod on the files?

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this enough for the maginot?

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lel

Now how do I get this to yurop

>>144833893

You have to be careful not to overfeed them, though. Make sure you monitor their nutrient intake levels using the Soldier Fitness Chart.

Remember, carbs can kill.

>>144833947
>30% reliability
I wonder what will happen

>>144823067
I wrote the HOI4 text
feels good

>>144833947
M A D M A N

>start game as Mexico
>can't help Republican Spain like in IRL life because they hate me because of this stupid despot meme they added
REEEEEE JOHAN