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>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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Logarius Wheel.
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>>144801395
Kos.
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third for the moonlight
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nth for Dark Souls
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nth for NO BULLYING
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Has anyone attempted to bring characters from Bloodborne into DaKS 3? I tried making Alfred but the beards are pretty trash.
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>>144801960
>that hair
Jesus fuck
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>>144801960
That would require playing DS3. Decent Alfred, though. Shame the mutton chops are so thin and spindly.
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>there are easily backstabbed vial/bullet sources right outside Ludwig's boss room

BASED
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>>144802558
You can also find three vials inside the boss area in case you run out of heals.
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>>144802942
and you can kill the red guy banging on the gate, begging for salvation.
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>>144801960
I've seen a Gascoigne, Ludwig, Ebrietas and Kosm in Ds3. Needless to say none of them were too accurate.
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>>144803070
>Ebrietas
How?
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>>144803254
It was literally just the name of the character, Guy was hollowed out and looked like bacon.
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>>144803070
>>144803254
>Kos
How?

Unless you mean Orphan in which case say Orphan or kill urself
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>>144803479
>Kos
You mean Kosm.
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>>144803562
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>144803479
No, the guy's name was unironically Kosm. If the lad was named Kos, I would have said Kos.

Even though saying Kos is incorrect. Not that it mattered, he had a dark sword anyway
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>>144803562
All we know is...

He's called the Stig.
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What's the most useless rune?
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Rifle Spear.
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>>144803747
>Even though saying Kos is incorrect

You watch your mouth.

lousy offcomer
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>>144803957
I really like the moveset of the riflespear but fuck its so bad
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>>144803892
Beast's embrace.
Beast mode is fun but the claws without the rune are better in every way.
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>>144802942

I beat him

He was fun, although I think it took like 10 tries
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>everyone I run into in Nightmare Frontier has <1000 HP

wut
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If I was in charge of developing a game like this, I would hire a team of people JUST to deal with armor/weapon clipping issues.

God Damn
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What should a MGS build look like?
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>>144806354
a build centered around the hmls
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>>144806354
Bloodtinge for guns, blue elixir for stealth, Madaras whistle for Snake
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>>144805059
It's weird, isn't it? Outside of the FC's it seems like everyone is running sub-30 Vit
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>>144806545
Any reliable way to get blue elixirs?
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>>144806709
Insight shop.
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>>144806540
>>144806545
I mean stats
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>>144806792
Just a normal blt build.
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Tomb Prospector trousers look sexy on lady Hunters.
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>>144806792
high SKL/END, medium VIT/STR, high BLT
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Anyone do remote play with a Vita for Bloodborne? It plays surprisingly well.
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>>144806894
The animations don't adjust for the heels though so it ends up looking weird as fuck when you walk.

Otherwise they're by far the best pants in the game.
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>>144806951
Sounds uncomfortable, I can't imagine playing BB without a controller.
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>>144806834
>>144806927
It's an Arcane weapon
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>>144807079
Nah man, it uses the screen for guns, so it feels real active. I enjoyed it a lot.
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>>144807089
METAL GEAR SOLID.
Dumby head.
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>>144806894
>Skinnest leggings in the game with that substantial heel
2aesthetic
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>>144807317
>>144807089

Then again Metal Gear Solid makes about as much sense nowadays as Micky's ravings, so maybe he's on to something.
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>>144807317
MOONLIGHT GREAT SWORD
Fromsoft game you dumby head.
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>>144807537
It's not called the Moonlight Greatsword in Bloodborne, anon. You need more eyes, friend.
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>>144807630
Now you're just being willfully ignorant.
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So I am back from DkS3. What did i miss, /bbg/?
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>>144807852
People voicing their disappointment with DS3, a small resurgence of loranon shiposting, speculation about what BB2 could be about, renewed lorefag discussions where half the people aren't as up to speed as everyone else

that's about it
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>>144807852
Fun.
Quality.
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>>144807826
It's called the Holy Moonlight Sword this time around, though. I'm ignorant in many things, but minutia concerning Japanese overstimulation facilitators -- I am not. That the other anon mistook it for MGS is understandable.
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>>144808049
Heh! Wasn't that bad. Bosses are far too easy tho.

No Ludwig in sight.
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>>144808237
>mistook

Are you really being that retarded right now?
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Will wearing Doll clothes make things harder?
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How do I cheese the crow guy in the grand cathedral? My attacks do little damage and he kills me in 2-3 hits. My strength is 25 with Ludwig sword.
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>>144809158
You might get harder.
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>>144809158
A bit.
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>>144809367
The doll clothing surprisingly works well with the slut shoes, even though the under-shorts usually kill it
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>>144809338

The way I did it was with the beast roar

Bait him to the doors of the cathedral, then use beast roar to push him into a corner, then spam r1 until you run out of stamina, hit beast roar when you're out of stamina to knock him down again in order to recharge
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tfw Micolash got his eyes
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>tfw tempted to go to 117
help
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>The complete lack of help requests in the last few threads

I just want to coop bosses, /bbg/. Is there anyone in need of assistance? I don't want to grind right now and I'm tired of SRRC shitters.
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>>144809338
bait him to the steps, when he starts walking back sprint past him and hide behind the farthest pillar on the left. When he resets walk slowly behind him and visceral him.

He'll heal after the first reset, but he won't after the second or third. You should have him either dead or within 10% at this point.
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In the top image, what do the different chalice icons mean?

Also in second image, what is the point in making a Standard Dungeon? Aren't only the Roots random?

Thanks
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Are pure arcane builds fun?
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>>144811441
do it you little bitch

>>144811489
How could you EVER get sick of fighting defiled hotdog/amy Over. And OVER. AND OVER!!!!
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>>144811489
Ring outside of the DLC bosses, I don't have to wait at all at Ludwig
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>>144811841
Absolutely, but making them is a pain in the ass.
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>>144811932
nvm i got the boss im gucci
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Can anyone help me with the Ailing Loran BSB? I don't know why but he's kicking my ass this run.

Pass is Starved, ringing outside the boss room.
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>>144813520
BLESSED SALVATION

I'm on my way.
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>>144813520
>>144813968
My fucking game crashed on the loading screen. Relaunching now, be with you quick as I can.
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>>144814436
I'm gonna join in too. Ringing by srrc though
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>>144814508
SRRC?
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>>144814573
Short Ritual Root Chalice. What people use when they don't have the chalice made and ready to access.
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Anyone else weirdly paranoid about the game starting to run slower to the more save files and longer you play?

I swear that pop-in wasn't as bad when I first started. Then again I wasn't moving so fast when I first started.
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>>144814436
Gracias.
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>>144815026
...Did you get help already? It wasn't me, if you did.
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What do we know about the Blood Minister in the intro?

He seems to know about Paleblood and has some power related to the Dream and the contract, but is there anything else at all about what he is/what his role is?
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Do you guys have early game builds? I really love my bl29 character, although sometimes I worry that I'm too powerful for early game since I can blow through everything.

But then, on the other side of the coin, if people are summoning its because they need help, correct? What are your thoughts on early game coop builds?
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>>144815258
No, and it's not very important
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>>144815294
Use unupgraded weapons.

If people are summoning it's for *help*, not for someone to OHKO the boss (and if it is they don't deserve the help anyways).
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>>144815580
>OHKOing the boss for people that can't beat the boss isn't help
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>tfw reading Lovecraft
>tfw he describes Mexicans in one of his stories
Holy shit the stories of him being racist don't hold a candle to the reality, it's amazing!
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>Away from PS4
>Can't play Bloodborne
I literally feel a withdrawal, I want nothing but to play it. Why is it so addictive, /bbg/?
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>>144816702
>his black cat is named Nigger-man
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I just wasted 21 vials as Paarl slapped my shit. Should I just stop?
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>Chalice Rom
What the fuck were they thinking? This shit is never enjoyable. Its not even had its just fucking cheap in that tiny fucking room. Either you nail him without getting touched or he decides to spam everything without stopping while his spiders ream your ass.

Yeah lets put a teleporting boss with 15 spider adds inside a tiny fucking room great idea From fuck god damnit I need to fucking sleep what the fuck
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Anyone want to help me fight the abhorrent beast in ailing Loran?

Pass is sparks, I'm at the door.
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>>144819808
Be there in just a moment.
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>>144819754
>tfw you still to this day can't beat her ass without being arcane for fire or overly leveled

My chalice version always ends up being the absolute arcane spambitch and I literally can't get anywhere near her without getting oneshot by one of the spells eventually
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>>144819808
Couldn't find you with srrc
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>get summoned for orphan of kos
>kick his ass to a sliver of health for the useless host missing shots with acb
>get my blanked by host

Why
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>>144820897
Same thing happened to me, except it was BLB, not Orphan.
I think they're doing it to cuck us out of the rewards.
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Does tricked bloodletter scale only off bloodtinge?
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>>144821663
Yes
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>>144821162
Gf joked that i beat the boss too fast and made him look the fool.
Lame.
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>>144821663
Yes, exclusively bloodtinge.
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>>144820897
>>144821162
>>144821830
See
>>144815580
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>>144821996
The fact is that he kicked me out of the game when the boss had something like 10% HP.
Also there's no real way to twink headless BLB.
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>>144815580
>>144821996
Do coopers get butthurt by getting help from people with good gems?
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>>144815580
If I'm summoning people for a boss it means the boss has pissed me off so bad that I want someone else handle at least a part of the bullshit.
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>>144822340
>summon someone to make the boss easier
>"waah stop making it so easy"
This is nuts.
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>>144822546
That IS nuts!
They must feel like they wished they contributed.
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Post bloodborne wallpapers. The higher the resolution the better, need some good ones for my 1440p montior.
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>>144822667
But don't they consider the feelings of the guy that's helping them?
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>>144801395
Tonight, Doll___ joins the hunt.
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>>144808407
ponti sully was close, him and the princes and nameless. And the Deacons of the Deep, they would have been right at home in Bloodborne
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>>144823186
Nameless King is a fucking joke.
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>>144823186
haha no
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>>144823369
>>144823482
I kind you not Ponti and Deacons were my favorite fights in the whole game, I had headphones on and was only about level 30 for them so they were actually challenging
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>>144821842
>>144821764

What about Blood Chikage?
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So here's my Amygdalan Arm build. Is it worth it to go 44 Vit just for the Repeating Pistol? Or should I go with 47 Vit?

I can also make do with 12 End, but I'm not sure if that's a great idea.
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>>144823756
Also the same. Every bloodtinge weapon has its attack changed to blood damage in tricked form.
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>>144823891
thanks

min requirements it is then
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>>144823821
Why 25 arc? The arcane scaling of Amygdalan Arm is pure trash and you only need 18 to use beast roar and augur.
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god i love this game but im starting to get burned out, should i get ds3 for the time between bb sessions?
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>>144822979
Did you draw that? It looks spectacular!
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>>144824295
from pixiv my friend
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>>144824245
Can't say whether you should or shouldn't get Ds3 but it is good to have something else to switch to for when you want a break.

Just don't abandon the dream
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>>144824010
The Arc scaling is actually better than the Skill scaling I think. I just want the best damage with the weapon I can get.
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Would anyone be willing to help me tomorrow with defiled Amygdala?
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>>144824415
The arc scaling is so weak that you might as well ignore it.
It would be better to use those extra points in skill (just for viscerals), stamina or bloodtinge (for church cannon) imo, but it's up to you.
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>>144824787
Something keeping you busy that you can't tackle it right now? I'd love to lend a hand either way.
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Anyone feel up for helping me with Maria? Just trying to get the bloodletter for my goofy Str/Blt build. I managed to get by Ludwig and LF but she's kicking my butt. BL54, pass is HELP

Thanks!
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>>144825287
On my way.
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>>144825005
Sleep
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>>144823727
Deacons of the Deep may be my favorite Souls song ever, totally feels like something that could fit in BB too.

Actually are there any songs in BB featuring an organ at all? I didn't think there were, but that would have been cool.
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>>144824828
Why is the Church Cannon better than the Cannon?
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>>144825502
Consumes less bullets, does more damage and the explosion is wider.
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>>144825607
But it doesn't deal more damage?
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>>144825375
Beautiful stuff, thanks so much. Can't wait to upgrade the Church Cannon more too, this thing is a hoot.
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>>144825607
>Church Cannon +10 480

>Cannon +10 600

Another thing worth noting about the regular Cannon is that you can actually aim it upwards. Church Cannon doesn't have height on it.
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>>144825757
It's still superior
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>>144825948
Church cannon can be aimed manually.
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>>144825961
>>144825607
>>144824828
Alright well I'm not doing 16 Blt. My question now is 47 Vit 5 Blt better than 43 Vit and 8 Blt?
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>>144825807
I almost feel bad for her. She's a tough and incredibly fun boss, but coop completely trivializes her.
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>>144826140
That all depends if you want to use repeating pistol or not.
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>>144826140
Repeating Pistol can be okay at that investment but its a QS bullet hog.

>>144826172
She shouldn't have grabbed my arm if she didn't want to be bullied.
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>>144826231
Yes. That's what I'm talking about.

Would you rather have 53 more HP or be able to use the Repeating Pistol?

>>144826405
Yeah, I'm not sure what else I'd be using the QS for except maybe the Cannon.
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>>144826519
In that case I'd say go for it. With BMA you'll be dealing pretty hefty damage at a minimal state investment.
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Do I want to get Physical Gems on Rakuyo/Burial Blade or Is Something else better? Also wouldn't that mean to get triangle versions of them?

Just remembered about the bowblade, should I stack bloodtinge gems on that or physical
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>>144826778
Yeah, you want radial/radial/triangle with physical gems.
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>>144826682
Yeah I was leaning that way too.

Now my question is about Endurance. How much enough for PvP? Anywhere between 9-15.
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>>144826519
If you're going to +10 repeating or at the very least get some chunks in it, go with 8 blt. You can also get hp runes to make up for the health

>>144826778
>Bloodtinge gems
oho

Easiest by far is physical gems, which you'll still do good damage with
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>>144826924
Honestly I almost never bother with leveling End, just slap on a +20% and you're probably fine.
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>>144826405
We posting bullying?
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>>144827034
Yeah? Lowest I've ever gone in a full build was 12. I'll give it a shot.
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>>144827530
You may want to hear from another anon, I've only ever played with two charcters in the /bbg/ fightclubs, so I'm maybe not the most experienced person.
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>>144824398
oh don't worry, we shall not abandon the dream
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>>144827530
The amount of endurance you want is pretty weapon dependent to be honest. Anywhere between base and 20 is fine, with bigger weapons requiring more End. Judge for yourself: level it until you're comfortable with the amount of stamina you have.
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>>144827530
>>144827941
Unless you're running a strength build, you really never need more than base endurance. More can be nice, depending on your choice of weapon, but endurance is a luxury stat more than anything. Some weapons like to have more, like the Burial Blade or the Beast Claw, but you'll never need any more than 20, and that's at the far end of the spectrum.
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What does "Share Fixed Dungeon" mean?
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>>144825476
>Actually are there any songs in BB featuring an organ at all?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCDEDi5gDPo

My personal favorite.
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>>144829142
Holy shit how could I forget this, thanks for reminding me.

>>144828413
>What does "Share Fixed Dungeon" mean?
Pretty sure it opens your dungeon up for online play?
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>>144811782
Gold with the effect around it are root chalices, silver with the effect is sinister root chalices. Root chalices can be made cursed or rotted or foetid or any combination of the three depending on the particular depth, whereas sinister can only be made sinister (spawning a chime maiden).

Searching a standard chalice allows you to recreate it for no cost, which is useful for early game Arc builds (to get two decent fire radials straight after BSB) and if there's a certain material you want to farm sometimes standards are better than roots for it (for example in Lower Loran Layer 1 there's a chest with two Ritual Blood (5)'s, and you can create it, rush to the chest, delete it, then create it again to respawn the RB5 at no cost).
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>>144829501
>Pretty sure it opens your dungeon up for online play?
Do you mean if that box is checked, other people can co-op or invade you while playing it? Or does it mean that people can access it and remake it from the dungeon search option?
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>>144829890
I believe both will occur. By sharing it online, you allow other people to access it and also open yourself up to multiplayer options.

I may be crazy though, you may have access to multiplayer without sharing it. But I'm almost 100% sure that sharing it allows others to download it, that's for sure.
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>>144822667
If they want to feel like they contributed they can fucking solo the boss like a real hoontah does.

As far as I'm concerned if someone's summoning they've already given up on that, and their only job at that point is to stay alive so I don't waste vials or bullets when they just run head first into their death.
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Dont have a video but I just ran up to a ladder, tried to climb it and fell on my ass. Is that normal?
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Well, I just beat The One Reborn. Nightmare of Mensis seems a bit difficult; is 50-60 underleveled for it?
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>>144830373
You fall off a ladder when you run out of stamina on it.
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>>144830718
That is exactly what happened, thank you. I thought it was a trick ladder or something.
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>>144822340
Good Gems? No. Twink Gems? Yeah. People want jolly co-op. They don't want to watch you melt a boss in like two seconds.

I know someone is going to bring this up so I am going to go ahead and get it out of the way by saying that it was an exception. Why was it an exception. The host asked for help. I told them I was super OP and would melt him. They said they didn't care and just wanted him dead.
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>>144830373
Around ladders, never relax
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>>144831186
>Ladders become mimics at random
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>>144830545
60 should probably be the norm, but I get coop there even at level 80.
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>running around
>realize I went a way I didn't want to
>BoldHuntersMark
>literally facepalm my way out of there
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>>144830545
I usually tackle it around 70-80 because I do the DLC stuff first, and at that level the entire thing's a cakewalk, so 50-60 is probably just about right.
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>>144831932
Alright, just wondering. The combo of werewolves plus that weird Eye of Sauron thing leaves me no room to breathe, and then the spiders rape me. Got killed in one hit by a babby spider.
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>>144832236
Could be you want more Vit, since even if you go up to level 200 you're gonna get one-shot if you have no health. Kill the beasts with fire.
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>>144830545
>>144832236
Just sprint past them and into the building. Ignore all the items. You can deal with the "Eye of Sauron" later in the level, then back track to get the items.
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Commence the great shittening of the thread.
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>>144831191
>Replying 7 hours after their question just so you can post your epik ;^) whirlynig L2
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>>144832646
ignore the retards and maybe they'll die of insecurity
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>>144832646
I actually replied to it about 90 minutes later.
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>tfw it's gonna be +16 tonight
How the hell am I supposed to sleep in this heat?
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>>144832923
Make a new character and run through Central Yharnam, its so peaceful it will put you to sleep.
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>>144833083
Why didn't you roll to your feet either time?
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>>144833248
then it wouldn't be a funny gif
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>>144833248
You can't roll out of a fall, only a knock back.
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>>144833434
touché
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>>144833248
You can't roll out of a fall. You would think you would know this from all the time you spend in these threads.

Why didn't you finish college?
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>>144833749
You have to play the game to learn these things.
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>>144833878
touché
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>>144833749
How would I know if I never fall? I play, I just don't play badly. :^)
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>>144834054
I would consider dropping out of college a pretty bad fall, but hey, to each his own.
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>>144834228
I wasn't aware there was a college questline in BB.
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Ironic shitposting is still shitposting and ironically giving an attention whore attention is still giving an attention whore attention.
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>>144829704
>Lower Loran Layer 1
Ailing Loran Layer 1

Probably better to just jump into NG+ and buy 'em, though.
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and there goes the thread...

I'm going to sleep. Fuck all y'all.
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>>144834917
Good night, anon.
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So I just killed Mergo's Wet Nurse, but she never entered her phase two

Anyone encountered that bug?
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>>144834917
I was busy playing Bloodborne, anon, what did you want to talk about? Favorite Lovecraft shortstories?

>>144834805
While that's true, its kind of a hassle to do NG+ if you don't have some nice gems.
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>>144835639

My favourite Lovecraft story isn't even by Lovecraft.

Also someone enlighten me on gems, I've just been slapping every +physical gem on my sword and I'm still at 400 AR with 40 SKL and +10
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>>144835639
You don't have to do anything in NG+ before you're able to get nice gems, though. So long as you grab the chalices and story materials in NG you can jump straight into NG+ and solely do chalices until you're at the point of Korea-tier OP before even triggering Papa G's fight.
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>>144836131
I'm not sure what kind of enlightenment you need. Gems are used to increase damage. Some have secondary and tertiary effects. Some have curses. The best ones are found in depth 5 FRC root dungeons. The OP has links for specific information you might be interested in.
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>>144836131
Oh, tell me more. I'm just reading through Lovecraft right now and digging it. So far my favorites are Rats in the Walls, Pickman's Model and Under the Pyramids.

As for gems, I'd recommend grinding the Winter Lanterns in Fishing Hamlet for the best physical gems barring Chalice stuff. Pretty easy to do with frenzy resistant gear.

>>144836260
I guess, I'm just always so anal about jumping into NG+. I feel like the moment I do it I'll remember something I missed.
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>>144836131
>enlighten me on gems
Well what are your questions man
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>>144835639
My favorite is Shadow out of Time

>>144836260
NG+ is a hassle because you have to go through and open up all the areas an shit again. It's a hassle if you just want to co-op and PvP.
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>>144835639
My favorite is The Color Out Of Space.

In almost every other Lovecraft story, even though certain elements are supposed to be incomprehensible, you still visualize it in a concrete way, just by habit. There's something about trying to imagine an impossible color that helps to break that habit,
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Should I even bother continuing to level up in NG+? I'm level 100 now but I want to still be able to summon
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>>144837851
Nah, level 98 is plenty even for NG+, and that is the best level for PvP and co-op. If you level up much past that you will start finding it harder and harder to find co-op outside of the SRRC.
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>>144837851
No
With how strong you get by the endgame, NG cycles don't match the difficulty of going through NG until about NG+4/5 as far as I can tell

Just make sure you at least pick up mensis/hamlet gems
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>>144837838
Reading that one right now, and its awesome.

>>144837851
As long as you don't level past 117 you're okay, but even that is kinda high. 100 is honestly a perfect place to stop.
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>>144838467
117 is really too high.
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How to Abhorrent Beast in Ailing Loran? There's really no safe place to be around him and he moves around fast as fuck.
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>>144842798
Dodge twice rather than only once for every attack. Your aim is to get behind him.
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>>144842798
Dodge through the punch and hit him in the face
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>>144843059
>>144843321
Thanks. I actually switched from my bloodletter to my +10 bowblade and that fucked him up right quick and easy.
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>>144842798
>>144843478
Alternatively, if you want to bitch it out and take it easy, peg him with a poison knife and run around a lot. His poison resist is dismal, to the point that one knife is enough to poison him.
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Two Radials and a Triangle are optimal slots for physical/nourishing gems, right?
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>>144837481

I was wondering where to get TOP LEVEL MAXIMUM GEMS, but "chalice dungeons" seem to be the answer, as they always are
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>>144844540
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?pli=1
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Anyone want to run through Defiled with me? I could do it alone, but I couldn't be assed to actually try again after however many builds. I just want to get my gems and runes already.
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>>144844517
Yes for physical, I think nourishing wants Radial/Triangle/Waning.
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>>144845210
Shit. I think you're right. Fuck.
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Anyone want to help me with Micolash? NG+
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>>144845743
Sure, be there in a bit.
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>>144845796
Pass is bbg
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I've been using the Thread Cane the whole game, about to start the DLC. What's a good second weapon: Blade of Mercy, Burial Blade, Rakuyo, or something else?
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>>144845796
Thank you so much. I just needed help with staggering him
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>>144846054
BoM and Rakuyo would compliment the cane best. Burial Blade and Church Pick are fine weapons, but their best assets are the reach and crowd control capabilities which the cane already has, whereas BoM and Rakuyo thrive on getting in tight and shredding shit up, which you can do with the cane but nowhere near as well.

That being said, BB is a lot heavier than the cane which makes it better for staggering larger enemies/bosses. In the end they're all Skl weapons anyway so pick whichever you like most, upgrade 'em, then change 'em around whenever you feel like it. By the time you can get BB or Rakuyo the game will have shit out enough chunks for it.
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>>144846501
No problem. Micolash in NG is a joke; go into NG+ and Call Beyond can oneshot you. The extra help keeping up the offensive is way more help than with a lot of other bosses.
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>>144846675
That's what's been happening to me. I'd get in the room for the second phase and get one shot a second later
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>>144846564
Alright, thanks.
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>>144846849
If you stay close he should never even use aCB.
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>>144844517
>>144845347
Nourishing depends on the weapon and what secondaries you want. Lost is the best for primary damage, since you can get up to 21.5% on Waning and Triangle over radials' 19.5% max, but if you're using something like HMLS, you might want +15 flat physical secondary, which doesn't appear on Waning.
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>>144848052
It's for the Amygdalan Arm.
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>>144846716
this is such a stupid and risky strat. You should always dodge towards his right side (your left). If you follow this strat you expose yourself all too much to his hitboxes.

Stop giving people shit advice
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>>144848552
You're better off getting a heavy abyssal and 2 27.2's on Amy Arm. Its primarily a strength weapon with limited arc scaling.
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>>144849014
>video showing taking like 20% of his health in like 15 seconds with almost no effort
>shit strategy
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>>144849085
Looks like you're right. I punched up the numbers and Tempering ends up doing more damage even before Nourishing is split between two defenses.
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How much of your Arcane stat is taken into effect when using the HMLS in both tricked and untricked states? Anyone able to compare a heavy arc (50) HMLS to one just using the base Arc and high STR/SKL?
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>>144851160
Almost none of your arc applies. The Arc scaling in on the beams.
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>>144851160
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1doP2HShMmJcHZFTNSZ3yVFxbUu4U1aO6yHIk9-wQ1Wo/edit?pli=1#gid=222193878
Like it says, general rule is 50% of the physical multiplier for untricked, and 70% for tricked.
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>>144851940
I think he is asking about scaling not the damage split multipliers on attacks.
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So I've noticed hitting someone after they've been parries does additional damage even if you don't visceral them. Anyone know how much more damage you deal exactly? And if it's modified by skill or anything?

I'm trying to figure out if it's more effective to BMA+Cannon someone after they've been parried or if I should just visceral attack if I have 45 Skill.
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>>144851891
This is simply wrong. All untricked attacks get a minor damage bonus from Arc, all tricked attacks get a major damage bonus from Arc, and beams are pure Arc.
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>>144853202
I've found on non-skill characters that it's better to just heavy attack rather than visceral, but with 45 Skl you should be visceral-ing at every available opportunity.
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>>144853202
As far as I know, it adds regular counterhit damage as though you hit them when they were performing an action. So at 45 skill, you'll be better off going for the visceral.
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>>144852417
Then you're giving bad advice, since the lightwaves don't scale any differently with Arc compared to regular attacks; they just have different multipliers. It's not like the Tonitrus or Logarius' Wheel, which increase their Arcane scaling in tricked mode.
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>>144853202
You do twice as much dmg if your enemy is staggered. This stacks with oil urn for fire attacks btw
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How do you run your ayy lmaos /bbg/? 50 Vit and Arcane? 99 Arc?
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>>144854916
70 ARC is enough IMO
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Where can I get some good arcane crescent shaped gems?
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GAS THE BEASTS

BLOOD NOW
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>>144851160
>>144851891
>>144851940

I'm just wondering because my HMLS (Lost version) is feeling pretty weak atm. I just got it though honestly and I'm only BL45, with a few phys +9% gems and the 9% nourishing gem from under Iosefka's clinic. The untricked R2 stab is really the only attack with some "oomph" and the tricked version is what mostly feels shitty. I'm thinking it will fill out more with some decent gems and my goal stats. Anyone have wembs of the HMLS in action betwen 90-120 bl?

My stats atm are:
25 / 12 / 16 / 12 / 8 / 25
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>>144856035
Only Arcane waning (crescent) shape gem I've ever gotten was from Beast-Possessed Soul from Ailing Loran. I dont think there are any good waning Arcane gems besides Cold Abyssals from Loran Elder.
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>>144858589
Go 50 Strength for a better physical HMS but poor beams, 50 Arc for the other way around. 25 strength with 50 Arc is what I run and it does decent damage on the physical side, the beams hit really hard too. If you don't have a problem with going higher, adding 25 skill is good for the physical damage and helps visceral damage. I don't have any webms to show at the moment though sorry
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>It's a host summons me in a chalice while being in some random corner of the map, so I explore the chalice killing enemies in routes he hasn't gone through yet to help split the workload but he dies in some random corner because he needs his hand held or else he'll die from a slight breeze
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>>144825476
Deacons is easily their best ever mob boss, the theme and the pope's scream are phenomenal with headphones on, the soul transferring between deacons is interesting and keeps you thinking and targeting and moving, and the curse build up is the biggest tension building ''shit is getting real and you need to end this'' moment in the entire game.
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>>144859243
fuck forgot to write episode at the end
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>>144853202
>reiter parry into a BMA cannon
Maximum mad
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>>144858893
Wouldn't going 50 Arc/ 25 Str instead of the 50 Str / 25 Arc also be better for all of the general attacks, sans beams, in the tricked version? I really like the beams but don't want to rely on them. I will say atm that any attack where the beam and the slash hit at the same time totally destroys most nerds.

Either way I'm still going to go 25 Str / 12 Skl / 50 Arc - I like the idea of being able to use the arcane tools with some decent power behind them. Auger has developed a loving relationship for me and I'm going to be sad not using it on other, non Arc oriented, builds.
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>>144829142
>tfw 2:43
>mfw 3:40
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L A D S
my camera keeps getting stuck pointing down on my hunters head when in the chalice dungeons and I can't seem to get it back to normal without targeting an enemy
Also I keep getting stuck Walking
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>>144859707
Yeah it'll be better for the whole moveset to go 25/50 Str/Arc but some people really like the one-handed moveset as it resembles the Claymore in the previous titles so they go 50/25 to make it hit harder. Only thing that'll really lack going 50/25 is the beams and not being able to use Tools as effectively as 50 Arc but the two-handed moves isn't totally gimped since it's still physical/arcane split.
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Which is the best Saif variant??
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>>144860976
Uncanny if you're going physical. Don't remember which for elemental
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>>144861806
Perfect, thanks.
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>>144853459
They have different, multipliers and they are pure Arc damage so they are only dealing one set of defenses.

The generally accepted idea is that you boost your Str to 50 if you want to rely on melee, but you boost Arc to 50 if you want to spam beams.
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>>144861806
Lost for elemental
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What the fuck are you fags even still doing in this game? The PVP fuckin sucks. Are you just autistically beating bosses and CDs over and over again? lol
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>>144853105
Do Popuko
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>>144862171
Fuck back of to /dsg/ u fucking faggot
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>>144862171
What the fuck are you even still doing on 4chan? The website fuckin sucks. Are you just autistically shitposting about video games?
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>>144862171
What the fuck are you fags even still doing in Ds3? The PVP fuckin sucks. Are you just autistically beating NG+2 and farming Concords over and over again? lol
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>>144862171
Because you can make the best QT3.14's in Bloodborne. In Das3 it's impossible to make a chick look even remotely good. Plus the fashion in Das3 is complete shit compared to Bloodborne.

Looking stylish is really all that matters.
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>>144863453
>Because you can make the best QT3.14's in Bloodborne
ever heard of this thing called pornography? you can find it on the internet lol
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>>144863556
What does that have to do with making a good looking character?
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>>144864104
you'd know if you werent a low test cuck lol
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>>144864224
haha lol
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>>144864442
lmao! xD
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>>144864224
epic dude :^)
want 4chan gold?
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>>144864224
>>144863556
>>144862171
The nightmare swirls and churns unending

unlike DaS3's lasting appeal, see you at the dlc friend.
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>>144864968
bloodborne is just dark souls lite tho
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>>144865503
dark souls is just bloodborne lite tho
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>>144865654
thats wrong tho
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>>144865503
>lacking this much insight

lmao
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>>144863556
Yeah because watching sasha grey clean a toilet seat covered in AIDs infested cum with her tongue while getting DP'd by two spear chuckers is much better than transforming from an aspiring, nubile hunter to an eldritch baby squid god who's qt doll mommy takes care of me, with hugs and kisses, gentle caressing with her porcelain-jointed fingers, beautiful stories of elder great ones with their universal mind fuckery upon beastly idiots (like you) and a lovingly personal hand weaved basket filled with the cosmos' greatest shrimp, fish, and crunchy crustaceans for your cute little beak to nibble on.

Faggot.
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>>144865835
I want her to protect my smile
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>>144865835
>ywn be a baby Great One being cared for by the Doll
Why have insight /bbg/?
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>>144853105
this but with Doll ready to whack Maria coming out of the astral clocktower
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>>144863056
I would seriously rather do nothing but play chalices from now until the next From game release than farm for pvp mats in DS3 ever again

The rates aren't even as bad as the pure bladestone, it's just that DS3 is so mind numbingly boring. At least when you farmed the black skeletons you needed to put a slight amount of effort into actually killing them.
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>making a male Hunter
>Long hair looks stupid and isn't even long
>Ponytail looks good but clips through fucking EVERYTHING

What's with these SHIT FUCKING HAIRSTYLES!?
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>>144867672
>make a ponytail
>use a coat that doesn't clip
It's not hard.
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>tfw you wanna play the old hunters but youll never beat ludwig cause of his 1hko attacks
>>
good
hunting
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>>144868282
git
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Ay yo, back after a long hiatus. I remember why I quit now. Cursed Pthumerian Defilement Layer 3 Amygdala. Fucking end me.
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>>144868282
He does have any.
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>>144868282
I don't remember ludwig being able to kill you with anything in one hit even as a phantom
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>>144868445
*doesn't

>>144868437
Just Jump Cheese her.
https://youtu.be/DZq3AnAZlDg
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>>144868476
The giant AoE in his second phase.
Not sure if it counts as "one hit" though.
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>>144867923

Name ONE
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>>144868647
Decorative Old Hunter
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>>144837851
Ignore the retarded "98/117" memes. You'll have plenty of action at 120 or hell even 150.
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>>144833749
>>144834228
No bullying drop outs please, it's hyper triggering.
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>>144868581
That's his easiest move to avoid AND you get to punish him for it often opening a visceral. Just be behind him.
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>>144868476
I think I only have 1k hp but there isnt any fast grinding spots to level up quick
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>>144868725
Yeah 98/117 are for fc autists, just go to whatever level you want, there are always people at any meta
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>>144868576
Tried it time and time again before. I'm just not gud enough without my max health.
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>>144835639
>The Terrible Old Man

So short and sweet and so good that last page always gives me a chill
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>>144868282
If you're talking about the one where he jumps onto the roof then falls down, run like hell until he lands. Most times it'll miss if you do that

>>144868445
>>144868476
I might have just had low hp or something but I remember that a couple of his attacks in phase 1 either one shot me or came very close
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>>144868951
What do you mean? It's literally retard proof.
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>>144835639
The rats in the walls
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>>144859243
Everytime mang, I sigh when they're not at the boss door and it's goose chase time
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Do i have to keep my FRC chalice open or can i remove it after its made once? In my case it's frc isz. Once its made i can use glyphs for all frc depth 5s? Do i have to complete it or just make it?
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>>144869386
Just make it one FRC and you can use the glyphs for all FRC's

It's a Godsend,
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>>144869118
I'm retarded. The way my build is, it makes the fight take forever because I do so little damage. I distinctly remember doing the jump cheese, getting her to one or two hits then fucking up and dying because that dungeon siphons a big chunk of your health.
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>>144869843
It lets you hit her in the face with a fully charged R2.
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>>144870197
You're in disbelief. I'm telling you how it is man. I'll never beat her. I've accepted defeat.
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>>144869118
Perfect for you then f a m
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Any anime/movie recommendations that I can watch to get me into the Bloodborne mood bros?
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>>144871107
No such thing, also fuck off.
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>>144871107
Crimson Peak is pretty meh but its definitely got Cainhurst vibes
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>>144871107
in the mouth of madness
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>>144871107
just play bloodborne
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>>144871248

Kill yourself you piece of shit
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>>144805059
Can't nightmare frontier be accessed pretty early?
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>>144869586
Do i have to keep it open ?
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>>144872225
Yes, as soon as Amelia is dead.

But shouldn't those people be outside of the matchmaking ranges?
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>>144872225
Right after amelia . I tend to just get the rune and come back later to stomp the place. I hate it, it really messes with my vision for whatever reason.
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>>144872250
Nope
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What will happen when the good hunter grows up?
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>>144872634
Demon's Souls
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>>144824245
DS3 is okay, I've put about 250 hours into it. It has Bloodborne hitboxes and is faster than DS2. There are some retarded design choices that I feel cock it up (you can only carry 99 arrows at a time and only hold another 99 or so in your storage box), and fast weapons do just as much damage as slow weapons, but other than that its pretty fun.
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>>144872913
upcoming patch on friday is addressing your arrow problem. You might still be stuck with a 99 carry limit, but they said they're expanding arrow "possession"
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>>144871107
Angels Egg, Vampire Hunter D, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Van Helsing, and Call Girl of Cthulhu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwqJ9IXn4WU
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>>144873434

Seen the first 3, Bram Stoker's Dracula was embarrasing and Van Helsing had potential but failed on all levels.

Any other examples?
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>>144874445
>Bram Stoker's Dracula was embarrasing

Ryder and Reeves were embarrassing, everything else was magic.
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Is there any way to clean the blood off of my character without going to the Dream? I hate having blackface constantly.
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>>144867474
>I would seriously rather do nothing but play chalices from now until the next From game release than farm for pvp mats in DS3 ever again

Man

DaS1 and DaS2 were actually merciful with their co-op/pvp item drop rates

DaS3's drop rates are almost fucking nonexistent
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>>144875167
Quit and reload
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>>144868282

Git more HP

On NG+ 1001 HP is enough to survive even his charge
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>>144875167
Wear plip plop hat before killing enemies.
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>>144875167
Wear something that covers your face I guess
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>>144875167
too proud to show your true face eh?
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Anyone want to spelunk an FRC root? Your choice which one, I have materials crawling out of the workshop walls. I'll post a pass and glyph if anyone's interested.
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>>144877856
>tfw at work
why do you do this to me pizzaman
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>>144878571
If it makes you feel any better, I have fuckall to do other than bum around and play Bloodborne these days, so chances are I'll be around when you get off work too.

Unless I crash and fall asleep, I've been awake for almost 24 hours now and who knows how much longer I'll be able to manage.
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>>144878835
Get some sleep. Don't abandon the dreams.
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>>144877856
Sure, how about isz?
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What level do I stop at if I want possible co-op? Aside from passworded co-op obviously
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>>144879185
80-120 is a good place. 43 if you want low level co-op/invasions.
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Help with the Living Failures? I'm just not vibing well with them today. Password is Doll
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>>144879352
omw
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>>144879352
Ringing
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>>144871107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3gNQ2KYCb4
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>>144877856
I'm in. I actually like chalice dungeons.

When I first got the game I thought root chalices were dumb but once you get to FRC depth 5 roots it's actually pretty fun
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>>144879496
>>144879516
Sorry! My dumbass was using my resonant bell.

Ringing
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Fuck defiled watch dog.

I better get a rock or chunk or some sick ass gem for this shit
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>>144879879
>>144879879
>I better get a rock or chunk or some sick ass gem for this shit

haha you don't get shit but another difficult bossfight
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>>144879049
>>144879754
Isz it is. You'll have to give me another ten or fifteen minutes or so though, somethin' came up what needs tending. Won't be long.

>>144879035
Nah, I'll be fine. I've always been the kind to stay up late and wake up early if I could, and hey, 18 consecutive hours of Bloodborne is a great way excuse to do so.
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>>144879773
Still ringing? I'm not getting anything
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>that fucking lower lower 2 undead giant

JUST
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>>144880751
>JUST

You keep using that word. I do not think it memes what you think it memes.
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Thanks anon, sorry for the wait and that I was shitting the bed the whole fight.
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>>144881120
it memes my life has been ruined by some fat literal ball and chain
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>>144881427
Fuck it, I'll have to leave this asshole until I have more damage or health. Most I've been able to get him down to is ~50% so far. I get too greedy and try to rush things.
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Game goes funky and can't see the group some textures are gone now it's taken five mintues to load.


Well it lasted I have a bad feeling about this
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>>144881771
Want some help?
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>>144881891
Please, I would love some. I am only level 51, though. How do I go about summoning to chalices anyway? I just need to give the glyph and then ring the bell as normal, right?
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>>144879049
>>144879754
Alright, done and done. Glyph is 22vp2mtu, pass is bbgisz. See you guys in layer one!
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>>144882309
i'll be there in a minute
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>>144881814
Check out your disk.
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>>144882289
Anyway, if that's the case then its layer two and the glyph is jjph, and I'll set the password as doll
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A Hunter is a Hunter even In a ______
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>>144883625
Meme
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poor shredded vogons...
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Layer one: Boring and uneventful, with a dash of fatshaming. Rotate to the next guy, or do I simply wait at layer two?
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>>144884062
If there's no worthwhile loot on L1 we might as well SRRC into your Layer 2.
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>>144883625
Stream
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>>144884143
Or does SRRC not work in closed dungeons?
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>>144884298
SRRC can't connect to closed dungeons, no. Layer one is easy enough to breeze through solo anyway, it'll be fine.
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Cannon or Kirkcannon?
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>>144884502
No Blt, Cannon. 50 Blt, Kirk
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>>144884395
Ringing on Layer 2 now

damn watchers gave me elemental gems both times :(
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>>144884395
Ringing at layer two
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>>144884769
>>144884787
>>144884395

JESUS CHRIST
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>>144884769
>>144884787
CAN PICK UP A BOULDER

Fuck. Grabbing some stuff from my box, I'll rering in a minute.
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>tfw beating Maria w/no bully
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I shouldn't have went through all the chalice dungeons before beating the game for the first time.

I absolutely wrecked Gehrman and Moon Presence because of how overleveled and overgeared I was. Probably fucked myself out of 2 good boss fights.
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>>144801395
>Oedon quote next to Moon Prescence drawing

What does it meem? Could Oedon be Moon Presence? pls don't kill menif that's a stupid question.
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>>144885682
Moon presence is always pretty easy, he has very low HP.
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>>144885682
What I usually do is use Blood echoes that I got from Cliche dungeons on blood vials and bullets only.
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>>144885841
There's a reason why he turned Eileen into one of Mergo's wet nurses, anon...
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If I'm going for physical set ups, which versions of the skill weapons are best? Uncanny or normal?
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>>144885841
Messengers hugging Jellyfish MP like a mother hen.

He is not Oedon, he is actually cute.
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>>144886184
It entirely depends on the weapon.

You usually want the 2 radials + 1 triangle version
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>killing myself with the bloodletter L2 to advance Adelline's questline
>hit her on accident
The kin mode isn't super vital for a bloodtinge build, is it? I guess I can always head into NG+ to get it.
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>>144886329
Ok thanks.
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Are you around Vermin-needing-Anon? Got four bosses basically set up and ready to go when you are.
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Oh man the RNG gods are giving us all the easy bosses.
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>>144886164
>>144885841
Wait a minute...Moon Prescence looks like a jellyfish in the concept art...kinda like this picture >>144886261 which is called an aurelia aurita, also known as MOON jelly. And you turn into a squid after killing MP...that can only mean that bloodborne is a prequel to splatoon!

Some get Vaati and Moyazaki in the line.
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There was something on that layer we missed, I swear. There was a balcony in the predungeon hallway. Off to investigate right now, we'll see if I can find anything.
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So, the difference between Loran Darkbeast and Paarl is that you can't cripple his limbs and the whole fight runs at 10fps? Bravo Miyazaki. I'm guessing the AI summons here are useless since most of his attacks are AOE?
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>>144886989
You can break Loran Darkbeasts limbs. It just takes more damage because he has a bloated health pool. I actually have a fun time fighting Darkbeast, it's a very methodical fight that goes flawlessly if you do it right. Real satisfying.
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>>144886978
Pretty sure it's just a Sage's Wrist or two. There'll be a fairly obvious wall you're supposed to attack to get to it.
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>>144866208
>ywn

what
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>>144886989
You CAN break Camera Beast Caarl, just as you can break the Mad as fuck wank demon.
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>>144886949
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>>144886978
I ran into that chest and got an odd arcane gem

it was an offshoot from the room with the mage and all the zombies, right before the lever room

General rule of thumb: if you didn't find the coffin on a floor you probably missed something.

nearly every layer in depth 5 dungeons has a coffin
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>>144869049
gimme a synopsis
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>>144872634
You grow back your arms and legs

Or maybe just the arms if MamaKos is anything to go by
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>>144887418
>>144887164
Yeah, it was garbage. Off to layer three.
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I am very much not enjoying these Brain guys in the Nightmare Frontier.
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That fireball didn't render until it was mashed up into my gums, I swear.

Reringing.
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>>144887768
Damn boulders are harder than the bosses.
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NOW it's a chalice dungeon.

Let me know how bribri goes.
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Got a shitty gem and no rock. Not even any chunks. That chalice was a bust. Another one?
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>>144889147

I'm down. My vote's for Loran this time.
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Anyone else getting blanked out of vermin here?

Im guessing i beat the boss for him too fast but what are your theories?
Is this some sort of griefing?
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>>144889147
Sure
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>>144889524
>Is this some sort of griefing?
I think so
It's a cheeky prank
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>>144889524
I've done a lot of jolly co-oping and never once been blanked out during the fight. No idea what might be possessing them.
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>>144889340
>>144889557
Alright, FRC Loran, comin' up. Glyph is bmks4jjz, pass is bbglor.
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>>144889741
>>144889785
This is like the third time thats happend at ook.

Im wondering where this trend is coming from. Fextra? Reddit? Gfaqs?
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>>144889970
I visit none of those places so don't know. Maybe they don't want a co-operator showing up on their trophy screenshot.
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This game is pretty fun.
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>>144890053
Oh shi i think you're right. I can totally see bitches doing that

>lol i don't need to summon for bosses I'm so pro and got gud.
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>>144890372
If only people couldn't get trophies when they summon... If only
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>>144890053
Can confirm, this happened to me once and the guy hadn't beaten the game yet. Fucking weird shit.
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>>144890372
>>144890660

goddamn that's ridiculous
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Just lost eight Insight to a single Brainsucker. Fuck.
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>>144890660
>>144890785
Last guy that did it to me had a gay ass psn name like REAPER2749K
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Goddamn I hate those things so much. Reringing.
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>>144890372
>>144890660
I don't know whether to laugh at those people or cry at the fact they exist at all.
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>>144891545
Are you guys still on floor 1?
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Im not being summoned for the Father Gaspouch whatever fight. Is it too early in the game to be summoned?
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>>144892507
He's an easy spot for summons up to bl29, maybe people just aren't playing right now. Try ringing at cleric or BSB too.
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fuck the Orphan
I can't kill him with the Arcane build I made
I manage to get him to around 1/8 of his HP but then he just spams his fucking shit bombs all over the place and fucks me up
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>>144892989
That's when you start using EG.
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Recommend me what weapon to use. I've finished NG with the generic saw cleaver twice now. I've started NG+ now and feel like I should use a different weapon.

Current (fucking weird) stats:

Level: 129

Vit: 42
End: 42
Str: 42
Ski: 20
Bld: 12
Arc: 21

I like being swift btw.
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>>144892736
Cool. I just got to him and haven't moved past his fight.
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>>144893312
W H E E L
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>>144893512
But that's a big honkin' meme!
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>>144893512

Do you have the GET YOUR WHEELS, LADS comic
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>>144893219
tried that already
its too slow and given how fast he moves it entirely misses him
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>>144893765
Try blacksky eye, it's very fast.
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If Eileen dies fighting Henryk, is she ded-for-ever
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>>144893312
Saif with two Heavy Abyssals if you go 50 Strength. It's like the Saw Cleaver but not serrated and has a better moveset.
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>>144893893
She's deed until NG+
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Could some overpowered cunt come help me with the undead giant in lower Pthumeria layer 2?

I've tried so many times and he just wrecks me. I've always had issues with this asshole on all my characters.

Glyph is jjph, password is doll

pls halp
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Do the enemies/bosses behave any differently in new game cycles?
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>>144894465

The one with balls and chains strapped to his manly back?
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>>144894597
That's the one, aye.

I can get him to about 50% and then I always misstep and BOOM, dead.
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>>144893312
>End: 42
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>>144895035
Feels good to be able to go and go and go, good hunter.
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>>144854916
32 vit and 99 arcane for a 117 build. 82 arcane for 98.
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>>144895035
>>144895260

Seriously this "never level END" meme is awful.
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>>144893312
Get it to Lvl 544 for 99 all stats
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>>144896520
There's a difference between never level End and 42 End. There's a point where enough stamina is definitely enough, and those points are just being wasted.

Nevermind the fact that End softcaps at 40 and you gain absolutely no stamina whatsoever from going to 42 with it.
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>>144886590
I dont even know why you would think kin is related to bloodtinge builds in any way.
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So I heard Young Blood can lengthen the lifespan of old folks?
Is Blood Ministration becoming real?

Is the Hunt returning to the Waking World?
Who will become the Host of the Dream?
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>>144898387
>Who will become the Host of the Dream?
Trump
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>>144897840
>Nevermind the fact that End softcaps at 40 and you gain absolutely no stamina whatsoever from going to 42 with it.

Pretty sure that's only DeS and DS1. I think it goes all the way to 99 in BB (it does in DS2/3).

I haven't ever taken End up that high in BB though so I'm not sure.
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>>144898621
But he's Micolash
Host of the Nightmare

He CAN'T be the Host of the Dream
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>>144885841
>the umbilical cord with Oedon's description drops from Arianna's baby
>it says corrupted blood is what allowed the impregnation
>Arianna is a descendant of Cainhurst, home of the Vilebloods (whom have corrupted blood)
>Vileblood queen is trying to get pregnant from blood dregs
>blood dregs are found only in hunters bound to the Moon Presence
>they look suspiciously like his face
>he uses the same numbing mist that Cainhurst uses
>Vilebloods are descendents of the Pthumerian Queen Yharnam, as Maria's clothing description shows
>Yharnam has corrupted, poisonous blood
>which is just what Oedon needs to father a baby
>she gave birth to Mergo who exists in the Nightmare of Mensis where the moon is the biggest besides the Hunter's Dream
>the cradle just happens to be at the very top of a tower at the very closest point to it
>a note description says that the red moon and a baby being born are interlinked occurrences
>the Moon Presence is the only Great One without a known name
>Oedon is the only Great One without a known form

What if the Moon Presence really is Oedon and he fathered Mergo and Arianna's spawn?
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It's my first playthrough of Bloodborne. I'm trying to not use a guide but I get the feeling I'm not supposed to go to Old Yarnham after the second boss
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>>144899061
You are.
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So just curious and be honest. How long did it take you to figure out that Amy's legs are invincible?
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>>144898818
>Vilebloods are descendents of the Pthumerian Queen Yharnam, as Maria's clothing description shows

Maria's clothing says she's related to Annalise.

It says nothing about Yharnam.
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>>144898731
Up to 40 End your stamina goes to 160. Going from 40 End to 99 End increases your stamina from 160 to 170. From 40 End to 42 End gives you nothing, you'd have to hit 45 End to get 1 point of stamina.
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>>144899157
Am I under leveled at 17?
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>>144899525
Just a little bit.
Your level isn't important though, what really matters is how much you upgrade your weapon.
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>the doorway is a representation of the dividing line between the waking world and the world of fantasy and impossibilities, while the doll is a guide that will escort the boy through it
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>>144898818
Oedon is just a name given humans, and Moon Presence already has a different name given by humans.
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>>144899346
>Among the first hunters, all students of Gehrman, was the lady hunter Maria. This was her hunter's [cap/garb/gloves/trousers], crafted in Cainhurst.
>Maria is distantly related to the undead queen, but had great admiration for Gehrman, unaware of his curious mania"

I'll give you that, it says undead queen which both Annalise and Yharnam have been described as

Still, it's painfully obvious the Yharnam is the ancestor the the Vilebloods, her boss fight even has the same theme song as Logarius which is called "Queen of the Vilebloods"
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>>144899061

Old Yharnam will feed you your own asshole after the second boss, but the Blood-Starved Beast itself probably isn't as hard as Papa G if you've got mad vials and fire
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>>144898818
>home of the Vilebloods (whom have corrupted blood)
Here's something I always wondered about. Alfred tells you a story about how a scholar stole bad blood from Byrgenwerth and ran off to Cainhurst with it. Is this true, or did the Church just learn that Cainhursts are descendants of Pthumerians and decide they didn't want another group able to make contact, so they made the whole story up and found the Executioners as an excuse to wipe them out?

>What if the Moon Presence really is Oedon and he fathered Mergo
MP spends the whole game manipulating a hunter into killing Mergo. Either MP isn't Oedon, or Mergo isn't MP/Oedon's child. Or he wants his own child dead for some reason?
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>>144900527
>but the Blood-Starved Beast itself probably isn't as hard as Papa G if you've got mad vials and fire

Or if you can press left on the analog stick.
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>>144900565
Who says you kill Mergo, though? Maybe you just free him/her from the wet nurse.
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>>144900867
The game is always talking about Great Ones seeking surrogate.

Isn't MP having you release Mergo from the Nightmare so that he can claim Mergo as his own?
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>>144900867
The "nightmare slain" text only appears after Mergo stops crying.
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>>144900867
>kill wetnurse
>nothing happen
>baby stops cooing
>nightmare slain
?????????
¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
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>>144900565
Given that the School of Mensis seems to be working directly with Pthumerians (bagmen and chime maidens) I doubt the Church wanted them dead for being descendants. Plus not all Vilebloods are Pthumerian descendants (the players), and not all Cainhurst nobles or their relatives are Vilebloods even if they are descended from Pthumerians (Maria).
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>>144900527
I actually haven't even made it to the boss yet. I also haven't summoned anyone because I had no idea what Insight was until I read the Old Hunters Bell description
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>>144901081
>>144901165
Nightmare Slain doesn't necessarily mean FormlessGreatOneBabyKilled. Could just mean the Nightmare's over and done with, as Mergo has left it. If you run back to Queen Yharnam she bows gratefully before disappearing; I doubt she'd be doing that if you just killed her baby.
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>>144900867
I guess it's possible. Fuck, anything is possible when you're talking about the motivations of the Great Ones because they're deliberately unknowable.

>>144901182
>Given that the School of Mensis seems to be working directly with Pthumerians (bagmen and chime maidens) I doubt the Church wanted them dead for being descendants
Mensis and the rest of the Church aren't allies at the time of the game. There's a Choir spy in the nightmare and there's a dead Choir member in Yahargul. Maybe cooperating with the Pthumerians is what caused the split between Mensis and the rest of the Church.
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>>144901546
There's a Choir spy in the nightmare?
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>>144901546
>>144901698


Is he talking about the hunter with the church weapons right after the spider room? I don't recall what he wears.
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Sorry Seraphina, my brain is straight fried. I fell asleep and only just woke back up. I think I've gotta call it quits for now, I'll play like ass if I try to push myself.
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>>144901927
He wears the Byrgenwerth set.
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>>144901948
No worries it happens.

BSB kicked my ass several times before I even got to Layer 2.
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>>144902045
Ah, then that places him as a Mensis scholar.

Where's the Choir spy anon was talking about?
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>>144901546
That's an incredibly large leap to make in my opinion, Anon. Going from maybe the Church just wanted to kill Pthumerian descendants to maybe Mensis working with Pthumerians is why they're not all that friendly with the Choir anymore when the original point was just conjecture anyway, I ain't seeing it. Given they let Byrgenwerth carry on despite them having Rom I highly doubt they'd be so paranoid about another group maybe possibly maybe contacting a Great One that they'd organise a complete massacre of them and anyone vaguely related to them.

More likely that the Vilebloods kept running around killing hunters for the special demon sperm only their bad blood infected minds could see and Logarius decided they needed to cut that shit out.
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For an Arcane/Elemental weapon Radial Waning Triangle is slightly better than Radial Radial Triangle, yes?
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>>144902296
That's the guy. His name is Choir Intelligence Edgar
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>co-op farming One Reborn

>beckoner doesn't go up the other set of stairs to kill the bell ringers

Always know how these summons go.
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>>144901927
>>144902045
>>144902296
The guy's called Choir Intelligencer Edgar. He's likely wearing the Student Set on account of being... you know, a spy.
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>>144902559
JUST
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>>144902693
>>144902559
>He's likely wearing the Student Set on account of being... you know, a spy.

derp

He's named in the artbook I presume?
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>>144902456
Elemental is RaTriWa, Arcane is RaRaTri
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>>144902827
He's not in the artbook.
It's probably in the official guide.
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>>144902827
Either that or the official guide. Wherever we learnt that the Singing Doll Brains were called Winter Lanterns.
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>>144901468
QY is happy you got rid of it

A wetnurse is meant to provide sustenance to a child who otherwise has none
Killing the wetnurse removes the child's means obtaining said sustenance and is thus super fucking dead my man
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>>144903104
The winter lanterns are present in the artbook, the various hunter NPCs aren't.
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>>144901927
Yeah, that's the one. The official guide calls him "Choir Intelligencer Edgar". The guide was written with From's internal design docs so I'm inclined to believe this is his real name and not just something ENB made up for flavor.
>>144902045
Because he's a spy. What kind of spy shows up in their own side's uniform?

>>144902363
Yeah it's possible that the Vilebloods are just dicks, or that Alfred's story is true. Just seems too much of a coincidence to me.
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>>144903165
Well shit nigger you're right my cousin died almost immediately after his wet nurse was in a car crash thanks for opening my eyes bro.

Wet nurses provide temporary care when the mother cannot. They are not irreplaceable nor are they directly connected to the life of a child. There's as much evidence for Mergo being taken out of the Nightmare as there is for killing the little shit dead my man.
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>>144903292
Then it'd be the official guide. Which is likely also where we found out they're called Winter Lanterns given it came before the artbook, since we're being pedantic.
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>>144903624
Why is he hostile to me then, what a fucking asshole.
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>>144903903
Just because he's spying on them doesn't mean he wants them stopped. Plus we've no idea how long he's been spying on them, for all we know he was in their ranks before the Nightmare of Mensis even existed and he's gone just as batshit insane as Micolash.
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>>144904105
>just as batshit insane as Micolash.

And exactly how batshit insane IS Micky, exactly?

Sure he rants at you the whole fight, but it's not like his ramblings are completely incoherent.

The howling is likely to mock the player for being a filthy beast. The rest is manic but not necessarily batshit.
>>
Who here is Po-leece? Any interesting things to know about this? I didn't even know it was possible to be able to fight invaders and hosts/cooperators with this equipped. I can't wait to get into some free for all brawls, but how rare is it to find yourself in these situations?
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>>144904551
Woops. Forgot this beautiful image.
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>>144904551
>but how rare is it to find yourself in these situations?

Keep dreaming good hoontah
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>>144904445
>Majestic! A hunter is a hunter even in a dream!
>The Cosmos, of course!
>Let us sit about and speak feverishly, chatting into the wee hours...
>Kosm

He isn't ranting at you, he's mostly just rambling to himself for no apparent reason. And after you jump on him his grand plan is to lock himself in a room with a hole in the ceiling so you can jump on him more.
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>>144904551
It's pretty rare, but don't give up.
>>
The number of times Lady Maria just pegged me in the ass is really making me wonder where this bullying meme comes from
>>
>>144904904
Oh no. Is it that bad? Still, that stamina regen is worth it, plus I like co oping every now and then so that increases the chance apparently.
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>>144905165
Try to help someone kill Maria and you'll understand.
The boss battle is clearly designed for 1vs1.
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>>144905165
She's worthless against a group of cooperators.

But co-op has always been OP trash, ever since Demon's Souls.

and why wouildn't you want Maria to peg you in the ass
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>>144904551
If you're doing standard co-op; pretty infrequent. If you're using passwords, more common. Last two times I've summoned someone on a pass, they were a hoh and got some PvP as a result.

>>144905184
None of the covenant bonuses are really worth it. Its just that stamina regen is the least shitty one-it won't be the difference between a win and a loss.
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>>144904445
That's precisely what makes Micolash so brilliant. When you meet him for the first time, you dismiss him as a crazy person. But the more times you play the game the more sense he makes, until eventually you realize he might be the smartest guy around. It's a shame you never get a real conversation with him. Maybe wearing the cage helmet in NG+ could've unlocked something.

There's that Lovecraft trope where secret eldritch knowledge and insanity are indistinguishable, and Micolash embodies it perfectly.
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>>144904985
>He doesn't understand the meaning of "The Cosmos, of course!"

Maybe if you had more eyes, you'd see the truth that sits right before your blood-addled brain.

"The grand lake of mud, hidden now from sight" > the lake by the Fishing Hamlet

"...the Cosmos, of course!" > Micolash is realizing that the Fishing Hamlet is the cosmos.

"The sky and the cosmos are one" -The Choir. The Fishing Hamlet is suspended in the sky above the Hunter's Nightmare.
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>>144905321
Look man I'm a patrician like anyone else, I'm into tall women, but not like that
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>>144905278
Even 1v1 she is very bullyable.
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I shouldn't trust that thing in the church right? Safe haven? Soubds like a rape dungeon with his "incense"
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>>144906369
He's a good guy
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>>144906369
Correct. The doctor will take far better care of people.
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>>144906369
Don't be mean he just wants some friends
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Anyone want to help me with Rom in the Lower Chalice? He's a motherfucker and I can't deal with his bullshit any longer today.
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>>144907137
Sure. Set up a pass and I'll srrc in.
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>>144907137
password/BL? I got a BL 42 down there right now.
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>>144907279
'bbg' thanks friend.
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>>144907330
ringing
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He's a slave to Oedon in at least 2 ways.
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Thanks for the help boys.
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>>144908193
kys
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>>144908193
No problem
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How can fake Iosefka keep giving you numbing mist when

>its recipe is a secret closely guarded by the line of nobles inhabiting the castle (Cainhurst)
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>>144908870
Get out of here, Loranon.
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>>144908870
There's numbing mist literally everywhere.
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What's the minimum number of builds to experience every playstyle BB has to offer?

So far I've done 50/50 quality, pure arc and STR/BLT.

I'm thinking STR/ARC for Wheel and HMS? Anything else?
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spin2win's hyper armor is so great

fite me
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>>144909516
It has hyper armor? No wonder people hate it.
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>>144908870
You find the Cainhurst Summons in her office
I think it's safe to say she may have been from Cainhurst
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>>144909660
Nah, people hate it because they don't understand how to fight against it. Even people here tend to try to R1 into it, which just makes you eat the follow up spin.
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>>144906009
And what part of having this epiphany whilst a crazed hunter attempts to kill him is sane and rational?
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>>144909874
or the PC left the note by accident then real Iosefka locked the door behind us.
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>>144906369
Whatever you do Anon, don't send any girls there. I've seen some shit.
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>>144909874
>>144908870
Stop samefagging.
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>>144910294
>mfw he tried to talk to them
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>>144909660
Once you get the spin off it finishes.

Of course, with the wind up time for the spin you have plenty of time to realize what they're doing and move or shoot instead of trying to break it with an R1.
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>>144909874
You find YOUR Cainhurst Summons in the bed you were lying in. In a room which is not the office.

The Foreign garb indicates you don't really have memory of what brought you to Yharnam in the first place. Perhaps you had business in Cainhurst?
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>>144910739
The ideal is that the main character has some kind of illness that can't be cured with traditional medicine. That's why they came looking for blood to cure it.

The invitation to Cainghurst is probably why they are even there in the first place.
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Why does every fucking enemy in this game have to scream ten times louder than anything else

I have my volume on fucking nothing but the second I hit an enemy the neighbors wake up and call the cops
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>>144911093
It's just the Hemwick witches. Protip: kill them with fire.
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>>144911093
Do you live in a cardboard box?

Buy your neighbors some earplugs.
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There are volume options.
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>>144908870
The Choir is a part of the Church. The Executioners are part of the Church. The Executioners sacked Cainhurst Castle, killing all but one of the nobles there. How do you imagine the Choir might have attained the recipe?

And if you really want to get into obscure lorefaggotry loranon, consider this: the blood heals, the blood turns man to beast, and the blood is used to turn man into kin. We know it is through blood rather than insight because Fauxsefka can turn the Suspicious Beggar, Skeptical Man, Grandma Sedatives etc. into kin despite the fact they clearly haven't got a single point of Insight between them.

So if left to happen naturally the blood turns man to beast. How then can it be used to turn man to kin? Perhaps if there was something which took away the blood's healing properties, which stopped the body from rejecting the metamorphosis and instead reverting to a primitive form, the body wouldn't be able to fight against the evolution into kin. And that is why the Executioners sacked Cainhurst, and that is why the Choir has Numbing Mist.

Thank you, fuck you, goodnight.
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>>144911014

1. The idea of searching for blood healing makes sense, however, it's never really mentioned that that was the player's intention; only that it was a common reason for outsiders to come to Yharnam.

Based on the blood minister's dialogue it seems you came seeking Paleblood, which is notable NOT the blood used in blood healing. In fact nobody besides him seems to know what it is.

>The invitation to Cainhurst is probably the reason you're there in the first place
This contradicts the "you came for blood healing" bit...
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>>144911386
>despite the fact they clearly haven't got a single point of Insight between them
She actually rewards you with 2 insight every time you give her a new patient.
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>>144911513
>This contradicts the "you came for blood healing" bit...
No, it doesn't. The Vile Bloods have their own strain of blood, which is why the church hates them in the first place.
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>>144911663
There's never any implication that Vileblood has any healing properties.

Annalise gets immortality but that's about it; everyone else got shit.
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>>144911796
I assume that she got the original, which made her immortal, while everyone else took blood from her, reducing its effectiveness. There is nothing to indicate that it is lacking in healing properties, only that it didn't make the others completely immortal.
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>>144911554
2 insight for the beggar, 1 insight for everyone else. That insight is gained from her experimenting on them, indicated by the fact the beggar (already a beast) gives more insight, as she learnt more by experimenting on him.
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Orphan of Kos?

More like Orphan of Kostanza because he's fucking home running me right out of the goddamn ball park
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>>144912263
>she learns new thigns
>therefore you get insight
That doesn't make any sense. It's more logical to assume that she can give you insight at will.
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>>144912404
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>>144911513
>In fact nobody besides him seems to know what it is.

>The nameless moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Paleblood.
>Behold! A Paleblood sky!
>Seek paleblood to transcend the hunt.

It's not a coincidence that the very first lines of the game are, "Paleblood, you say?"

It's funny, really. Moon Presence has a penchant for using foreigners, and a foreigner shows up, asking about Paleblood, something which is not referenced often but always leads back to Moon Presence. And rather than saying, "How the fuck do you know anything about Paleblood?" the Blood Minister tells this foreigner he's in exactly the right place, and immediately draws up a contract.

What a crazy coincidence.
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>>144912435
Why would she pay you insight if she herself doesn't gain insight from learning new things? You don't just give insight away unless you're getting an abundance of it from experimenting with Numbing Mist.
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>>144912435
>>she learns new things
>>she shares what she learned with you
How does that not make sense?

>>144912861
The Bloodminister was Nyarlathotep.
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>>144912861
>"Paleblood, you say?"

Just realised I'm getting mixed up with Gilbert.

"Oh yes, Paleblood." rather.
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>>144913053
>she shares what she learned with you
She doesn't even tell you that she's experimenting on people until you send everyone to the clinic.
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>>144913186
Doesn't matter. The methods she used to learn the shit isn't what she is sharing.
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Ludwigs holy blade or Kirkhammer?
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>>144914165
Ludwigs Holy Blade if you're an asshole, Kirkhammer if you're a big dick G.
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>>144914165
K I R K
I
R
K
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>>144914165
Memeblade for ease of use, Cuckhammer for... well, only reason is because you like big hammers really.

If your primary weapon is fast and can deal with crowds, go Kirk. If your primary weapon isn't fact and has a more single-target focus, go Memeblade. If you don't want to find that you're using the same weapon as 80% of the people who beckon you, go neither.
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>>144914280
For PvE. I just got the game a few hours ago

>>144914478
Kirk is my primary
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Saint Adeline is Caryll's younger sister.

Discuss.
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Okay whoever designed Orphan of Kos is a fucking madman of the highest degree and I am in severe suffering
I was supposed to hang out with a friend tonight but I forgot because this shit is just tilting me
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>>144914569
Then keep Kirk and ignore the memeblade. Axe makes a lovely secondary for it.
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>>144914165
LHB is vastly superior
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>>144914606
She's Eileen
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Orphan of Kos?
More like Orphan of Killing Myself holy fucking LORD
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>>144916263
Need a hand? I'd love to help, if you'd like.
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>>144916621
I don't even have PSPlus
I couldn't get help if I wanted to
I'm sorry this is the end of my life
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>>144916742
Don't give up, anon. Bash that wrinkled eldritch horror old man-baby into putrid pieces of pink placental pulp. I know you can do it.
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>>144916742
>>144917015

You'll feel much better doing it without summoning too.

Most bosses I don't respect enough to worry about pulping them in a threesome, but the Orphan deserves better.
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Can someone post the Artbook scan of moon prescemce with the Oedon quote?
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>>144916263
Use the Whirly or the LHB and Orphan is a pushover.
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>>144918168
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>>144918492
I'm using LHB and it's like nothing I've ever accomplished in my life mattered
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>>144918802
Just learn his moveset, dodge behind him, hit him twice (second hit should stagger him), then back away.

Also, watch this Jap do it at level 4 on the highest NG+ cycle:

https://youtu.be/0TJrw5gwx-o
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So I beat micolash, and according to the wiki, it says, "After defeating this boss, the long bridge will rise and the Mergo's Loft Middle lantern will spawn."

But the bridge didn't come back and now I don't have a lantern spawn. Did I fuck up?
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>turn right of the Vicar Amelia fight
>get to two halberd woelding things
>get passed them, room with bowl un the middle
>oh a boss fight
>try to open door passed it
>get grabbed and killed
Cool man
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>>144918802
Thank you famygdala, I already have the artbook but my finger sweat stains are forver engraved in the pages and I don't wanna corrupt it any more.
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>>144919075
>But the bridge didn't come back
The bridge is the one that you crossed to get to Micolas Cage in the first place. When you beat him it rises. Just go up as high as you can, past where you kill Mic, and the bridge should be up there with a lamp on the other side of it.
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YEAHHHHHHHH I DID IT

FUCK YOU ORPHAN
FUCK YOU MIYAZAKI SUCK MY BLOODBORNE DICK

I SPENT LIKE 200,000 ECHOES ON VIALS BUT IT WORKED OUT
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>>144919669
Congrats.
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>>144919127
remember key
therefore oh, I can't wait... hee hee...
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>>144900860

That's hard though
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>>144919669
>I SPENT LIKE 200,000 ECHOES ON VIALS BUT IT WORKED OUT

But

You could get the vials for free AND 200,000 echoes by just backstabbing those fat guys outside Ludwig's boss room

Like with Moon 3 and Heir 1 and 2 it's 10118 SOULBLOOD per fat guy, and fat guy 1 drops 10 bullets while fat guy 2 drops 6 vials

Then you could use all those bloodsouls to level or, if you're already at a satisfactory level, spend them on MORE VIALS FUCK YEAH
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>>144921108
don't forget the 5 vials you get for free from the skeleton thing
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>>144921207

You mean corpsebro?
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>>144889970
I just think it's faggot kiddies.

fextra is just the wiki, reddit which I just now went over to for the first time is grossly friendly half the post are 'help' posts and of the 'where do I go next' flavor and Gfaqs seems decent.

Still unbelievable tho
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>>144892507
Heck, I get him at BL 120 I do have to wait much longer than most bosses though.
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>>144899816
Yikes,

Would hang it up though but somewhere in my house where I'd never see it at night.
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>>144902827
Don't think he'd be in the artbook but he's in my guide.
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>Just want to play Bloodborne and Build Wars and maybe return to the Eternal Cycle once more
>Only 24 hours in a day
>I have to sleep for 8 of them

If god is real, he's the worst fucking dev I've ever seen. This is bullshit artificial difficulty skinner box fuckass. There need to be at least 32 hours in a day.
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>>144921346
>fextra is just the wiki

They have a forum, also, but nobody there talks about Bloodborne since DkS3 came out.

R.I.P. wikidot forums.
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>>144922483
>have to sleep for 8 of them

Git gud.
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AS YOU ONCE DID FOR THE VACUOUS ROM

GRANT US EYES
GRANT US EYES
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Is Celestial Emissary a joke boss?
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>>144923017
>mfw granted eyes
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>>144923362
No, but I don't think he was meant to be hard or impressive.
He's just here to conceal the real boss of UCW.
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>>144908193
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>>144923017
https://youtu.be/jcUSbbC1egA?t=1m59s
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>>144923462
>accidentally hitting and breaking that window a couple weeks after release

>mfw
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>>144923462
Ooooh, now there's a weird squid lady. Am I about to get fucked?
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Anybody up for a fight with the Blood Letting Beast?
>>
Who isn't Eileen?
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>>144923762
Mine went along the lines of:

>oh look an item over there
>fuckin window
>r1r1r1
>oh shit it actually worked
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>>144923815
Yeah unless you have Tonitrus.
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>>144923835
Micolash
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>>144923885
Yeah fuck this. Can't beat her, can't really proceed in the Nightmare of Mensis... eesh, this game hates me.
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What SL should I be doing the dlc at?
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>>144924568
Anywhere from 50-70, I'd say. Much of it is harder than the endgame content of the base game, so gauge your level off of that.
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>>144924568
Slv is irrelevant. Just have a +9 weapon w/Mensis gems. Most people will be around level 70 though.
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>>144923835
Eileen is Gutsman
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Holy shit I'm off my game tonight I'm even dying farming echos in Layer 3 Isz
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Level 35, all I've got going for me is 30 VIT and a saw cleaver +4.

Anyone who wants to help me with Gatling Gun hunter && Ludwig, pass is bbg at the Hunter's Nightmare lamp
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>>144925646
On my way. Be warned, I've had drinks
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>>144923362

He's a trick

The actual boss of the Upper Cathedral Ward is Tit Cthulhu
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>>144925964
Yeah, just met her, got raped three times. Got her down to 45% each time though, so it's not hopeless.
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Is there any reward for killing the bloodstarved beast in the hunter's nightmare?
Does it even respawn?
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>>144926107

He's just there to keep you away from his gubbins

I was fucking infuriated when I saw him after all the bullshit I'd already had to wade through, but it turns out baiting him to the big cave lets you dodge left as usual
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Guys what if

What if Maria is Ebrietas
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Fucking bloodsuckers shits! Ringing again red faced Hunter
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>>144925831
Thanks for the help. The Gatling Gun was my real target there (even though I'm 14 levels away from using it).

I'll deal with Ludwig later.
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>>144926453
You mean what if Maria is Cosmos?
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>>144926691
And Moon Presence is the Paleblood Sky

The Sky and the Cosmos are one

Doll is Oedon
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>>144927026
Mmm... I'd let her impregnate me with an alien-god-fetus.
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>>144927194
Why let her impregnate you with one, when you can be one?
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>>144927194
You will never have your fertile hunter womb pumped full of doll cum
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Holy FUCK Micolash is a bitch.
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>>144927742
At least he's not a beastly idiot, unlike some "good" hunter I know.
>>
So I've been wondering how long ago the Healing Church was founded (eg. within any of the normal human characters' lifetimes, since we don't know if Gehrman yet lives in the waking world, and Willem is old as shit thanks to his eyes).

Old Yharnam's burning took place in Djura's lifetime of course, but he's fairly old so it could have been 50 years ago.

It finally hit me though, that the Doorman to the Forbidden Woods is dead and decayed. Laurence and crew left Byrgenwerth long enough ago for this man to live his life in that chair, die, and decompose.
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>>144928924
>It finally hit me though, that the Doorman to the Forbidden Woods is dead and decayed

But if he's been dead for decades...

THEN WHO WAS TALKING THROUGH THE DOOOOOOOOOOR
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>>144929121
It was Djura, they have the same voice actor.
Coincidence? I don't think so.
He's they type of guy who would do that.
>>
>fighting Amy with a rapier

This is torture
>>
>>144928014
Well fuck. Spent 17 blood vials on him and lost.
>>
>>144929607

You have to keep pressuring him, otherwise he melts your face off with a call beyond
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>>144928924
>implying the characters in Bloodborne age normally

It's scientific fact that replacing the blood of the body wholesale with fresh blood tissue, aside from its many beneficial effects with regard to aiding the digestion and promoting general health, extends the lifetime of humans by decades.

Source: HG Wells and Robert Heinlein
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>>144930267
That would be the biggest plot device since "time is convolued in Lordran".
>>
So why is it called "Frenzy" when it's obviously supposed to be standard HPL madness, as indicated by the fact that knowing more about old things makes you more susceptible to it
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>>144930492
It's not.
Frenzy is something temporary, madness is something permanent.
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semi-srs whirlikajigger L2 spam build
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>>144930742

Anon, death is also usually something permanent.
>>
>>144931236
It's specified that hunters can't die as long as they're binded to the dream.
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I just started using the pizzacutter for the first time to hold me over til I get the bloodletter for my str/blt build

Jesus this thing is so much fun.
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>>144933575
Man alive is it.
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>>144933773
Is it that over powered? Does it just straight scale with strength, nothing else?
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>>144933773
>pizza cutter vs pizza cutter
I want the memes to end
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>>144934618
>is it that overpowered
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Are there Skill Scaling +65 gems?
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>>144934618
I was using a fire Whirly, or as I like to call it, the HOT PIZZA. It does get S scaling in strength though.
>>
Wew Amygdala went bad. I was doing all of 11 damage. Are the legs resistant, or is it practically immune to both piercing and blunt damage?
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>>144934775
Fuckin saved
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>>144934886
His legs take borderline no damage. If you hit is torso/arms it does normal damage, and his head gets a positive multiplier.
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>>144934886
>it has a giant fucking egg-shaped head
>11 damage to the legs

Have you ever played a video game before?
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>>144934783
No. The only worthwhile scaling gems are in str and arc. Everything else is trash.
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>>144934618
Guy dodged sideways instead of back. Not really the weapon being OP there.

That being said the overall moveset is pretty comparable to the memeblade in terms of ease of use.
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>>144935127
>Everything else is trash.

Everything else has weapons with S scaling anyways.
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>>144935107
Well I wasn't sure if I could actually hit the head.

Then I switched to the whip mode on the Cane and melted it in three seconds.
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>>144935259
Which makes their scaling gems trash.
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>>144935259
That too, but its mainly with scaling that only str and arc get the +65 ones while the other ones won't even break 30.
>>
>>144801395
Hey /bbg/, any tips for farming Ritual Blood 4? I've been trying Lower Ptheremu, but all I'm getting is Ritual Blood 2 off of Snatchers.
>>
So the chances of this ever being on pc are basically zero right?
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>>144935580
The watcher in the last bonus room drops them too.
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>>144935580
Are you farming in the right chalice? Yes, its a stupid question but I've never had a ritual blood 2 drop in Lower Pthumeru from a snatcher ever. They've always dropped 4's for me. Even then, if you have eye runes, wear them. It should improve their drop rate.
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>>144935784
Fuck, just realized that I'm not in Lower Pthumeru, I'm just in Pthumeru.
Where the fuck do I get the chalice for Lower Pthumeru?
>>
>>144935885
Pthumeru>Central Pthumeru>Lower Pthumeru

Each chalice will drop from finishing the final boss in layer 3 of each dungeon.
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>>144935870
You guessed correctly, wrong Pthumeru. Whoops.
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>>144935885
Finish the chalice dungeons, the 2nd bosses will give you root chalices and the final usually gives you the next chalice in the progression.

Don't forget to find the Hintertomb chalice in Pthumeru.
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>>144936002
Fuck, this seems like a lot of effort to get BEAST MODE.
Maybe I'll go kill Mergo instead.
Or download the DLC, I should probably start that before I have to make a new character.
>>
>>144936057

Is there even anything remotely worthwhile in Hintertombs?
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>>144936286
FUCKALL NOTHING

You can buy an armor set from the insight bath for getting through Lower Hintertomb. That's it.
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>>144936286
>He's forgotten

You absolute madman
>>
>>144936387
What armor set?
>>
>>144936138
Its a bit of an effort but if you're going to get depth 5 gems eventually, its on the way.

>>144936286
Only if you want to experience one other boss fight which isn't in any other chalice or another armour set. That's it.
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>>144936473
Madman set. It's not very good except for a few select fashion combinations.
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Alright, so I'm in Mergo's loft and I see a giggling woman in all-white.
How fucked am I?
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>>144937205
She's crying, you're alright.
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>>144937256
She's pretty fucking creepy though.
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>Played through Dark Souls 3 like 6 fucking times already
>Want to play Bloodborne again just so I can compare the two so I can get a feel for what's the better video game
>mfw getting my ass kicked in central yharnam

Oh god what happened, it's like I forgot how to play video games. At least I went on to beat Cleric Beast, Papa Guac, and BSB is one go.

I forgot how much fun it was riposting things with the blunderbuss.
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Im glad sony rejected demons souls

had des been a focus for sony, fromsoft would have been a des machine and we would have never gotten BB

I pray we never get a BB sequel, but please make a new ip in a different setting that feels like BB.

western or 1910s plz
>>
>>144937339
Don't be so mean anon, she had her baby taken from her.
>>
>>144937452
I went back to Central Yharnam to farm Blood Vials quickly, and I kept letting the torch hunters fry me half to death while screaming "away beast!"
I let a dog stun-lock me to death three times in a row.
And yet I just faced five Yharnam Shadows at once and kicked their asses.
Sometimes you let the easy stuff hammer you.
>>
>>144935312
>Well I wasn't sure if I could actually hit the head
>Half his attacks end with him resting his head on the ground for a good five seconds
Anon...
>>
>>144937707
Hey, I'm not good at this game, just persistent. It's worked so far.
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>>144937512
How fast does your weapon break.
>>
>>144937512
How do cucks even come in here complaining about DS2/3 being shit (rightfully so), then beg their cuck gods for Bloodborne to be whored out for a sequel?
>>
>>144937856
durability down doesn't stack
>>
>>144937856
Apparently DUR down doesn't stack, so as fast as any weapon with a DUR down gem.
>>
So, does starting the fight with Mergo's Wet Nurse precipitate the end of the game, or is it possible to beat it and still do optional areas?
>>
>>144937856
1 durability per hit
>>144937868
they lack forethought
tho I belive japan studio can produce quality as fromsoft devs the game, I still don't want a sequel
>>
>>144938015
You've still got free reign to faff about and tie up any loose ends you missed.
>>
>>144938015
The only thing that ends the game is meeting Gehrman in the Hunter's Dream. Don't go talk to him.
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>>144938015
You can beat it and still do optional areas.

I saved that fight for AFTER I was done with optional areas because I didn't like going back to Hunter's Dream and seeing everything on fire.
>>
>>144938140
Just realized I haven't even dealt with the Mensis Brain yet, gonna do that first.
>>
>>144938235
It's a pretty easy fight despite what people say about it here. The attacks are telegraphed from a lightyear away so you have plenty of time to doge.
>>
>>144938015
The point of no return (and even then you can return depending on how you handle it) occurs after MWN, and it'll be fairly obvious what exactly it is.
>>
Is level 60 good to invade the Frontier with?
>>
>>144938407
My primary problem is that I just let a Winter Lantern Frenzy me to death like a chump.
>>
>>144938082
How much did japan studio do for the game anyways?
They just threw resources at them or some thing im guessing
>>
>>144939495
a lot of the art, story and 100% of music
>>
What's a good skill weapon that pairs well with the threaded cane?
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>>144938981
level 40 to 60 yes
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>invade in the Frontier
>find someone parked in a tight corner away from their game
>place my character directly behind them, trapping them in the corner
>am currently waiting for them to come back
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>>144940067
:D
>>
>>144939914
You got any sources for that information?
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>>144940297
the fuck do you think this is? a bibliography?
>>
>>144940297
most of BB's composers work for sony
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>>144941070
>>144939914
Well its not 100% of the music, yuka kitamura, for example.
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>>144940879
So you're talking shit then.
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Playing this game for the first time, only played a bit of Demon's Souls. Holy shit this game is so good.
I just beat sad pray girl with the pendant and now i'm fighting a shit ton of snakes what do

Also I went a skill build, i'm like level 28~ish and dumping most of my points into Skill and Endurance and I have a +6 Cane, am I retarded? Will I be running into any more skill weapons any time soon? I've been doing all of the Crow lady's stuff because I was told If I kept up with her I'd get a skill weapon eventually.

amazing fucking game 10/10
>>
>>144943068
Putting points in vitality won't hurt.

Seriously, I only just got done with Vicar Amelia on this playthrough and every single level up point I've gotten so far has went straight into vitality because the other stats just plain and simple don't matter at the beginning of the game.
>>
Holy fuck, BSB in the chalice dungeon is raping me six ways from Sunday. Once he goes turbo I can't do jack shit to him. What's the move to parry when he starts going sanic speeds?
>>
>>144943639
don't bother parrying, just walk around his right side.

yes, walk. You don't even need to dodge. Just move leftwards and he can't touch you.
>>
I gotta say, this game does a real good job of making the enemies fucking unsettling.
One thing that's particularly disturbing for me is the werewolves. That weird, hunched walk they have that makes it clear that they used to be human, the click click clicking of their claws, the way that they make barely any noise as they come towards you
I was trying to recall from Paarl's grave and just as I was about to go I turned the camera and one of the fuckers was right behind me. Damn near screamed.
>>
>>144943639
>>144943782
Just got him with parries. Had to tank a hit but it worked out.
>>144943068
There's a weapon you can buy if you beat this optional boss later on that's pretty good as a skill weapon (and amazing as a bloodtinge weapon, I use it as skill though since I'm weird). Chikage is what it's called.

>>144943847
The fast long-haired enemies in the chalice dungeons freak me out every time they run at me.
>>
>>144943639
How to beat Bloodstarved Beast
Step 1: Hold forward-left
...
.....
........
That's literally it. You've just completely nullified all of his attacks. Congrats!
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>>144943068
>am I retarded?

Always.

As other Anon has said you probably want to put more into Vit, can probably lay off End a little too; some is good but too much is wasteful. If you want another Skl weapon go to Cathedral Ward Lamp, exit out the door on your left, then keep going. If you've already been there and haven't found it, look harder.

>now i'm fighting a shit ton of snakes what do
Hit them, don't get hit.
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>>144943068
Ideally your first play through should be str or quality.

Level up priority should be 20 vit, 15 - 20 end, then 30 vit before you start leveling your scaling stats. By the time you get to 30 vit, you should have enough weapon upgrades that leveling your scaling stat will start to matter, plus 30 vit, will stop you from being one shotted in PvE.
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>>144943929
Who, me?
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>>144943929
Every single other Skl weapon, including the Bowblade, is a better Skl weapon than the Chikage.
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HOW
DO
I
FUCKING
PARRY
VIALS
JESUS
FUCKING
CHRIST
I TRY AND I TRY
I ANTICIPATE IT EVERY SINGLE TIME
BUT LITERALLY EVERY TIME
IT
JUST
WON'T
FUCKING
WORK
EVERY SINGLE TIME
I RUN THEM OUT OF ALL 20 VIALS
I JUST CANT FUCKING DO IT
ITS IMPOSIBBLE
GODDAMNIT THIS PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH
>>
Wew, Ebrietas is hard. Seems the best strategy is to circle her, bait headbutts, and Charge R2 her head.
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>>144944284
Scaling isn't as good I'll give it that. I really like the moveset for it.
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>>144944343
instead of waiting for them to heal

and trying to parrry it

just kill them

before they can heal
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>>144944576
>BRING THEM LOW ON HEALTH
>THEY MASH BACKDASHES AWAY FROM ME
>HEAL AS SOON AS THEY'RE OUT OF RANGE
>BACK TO SQUARE ONE
NICE ADVICE RETARD
>>
>>144940067
>not making contact
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>>144944570
It's not even the scaling, the moveset is extremely limited without a heavy BLT investment. Anything it can do another Skl weapon can do better whilst also doing four other things.

Don't get me wrong Anon, if you like using it despite it being a bit shit that's fine, more power to you, I still love me some Steak Dinner, but calling it a pretty good Skl weapon is just misleading.
>>
Right now I'm at level 80 with 30 vit, 15 end and 50 skill. I what to use the blades of mercy but I don't have a lot of stamina so should I keep leveling up to get more? I want to stay in level range to help others and I'm not planning on doing NG+ with this character
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>>144944719
>LETTING THEM BACKDASH AWAY FROM YOU
>NOT BEING ABLE TO FOLLOW THEM
>LETTING THEM GO OUT OF RANGE AT ALL IN THE FIRST PLACE
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>>144944719

>out of range

you
have
a
gun

don't
let
them
get
"out of range"
>>
>>144945065
Two stamina runes will give you enough stamina that you won't be able to use all of it before you have to dodge or the thing you're attacking is dead.
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>>144944343
>>
I HATE Rom, anyone want to come and help end this hell?
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>>144944037
Wait what's out the left? Old Yharnam + Forbidden Woods right? I haven't gone through Old Yharnam yet, i've just been trying to get through the snek section. Am I totally retarded? I thought i'd gone through every section of the Cathedral Ward.
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>>144946119
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