League of Legends General - /lolg/

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>zed isn't banned
>pick zed jungle
I will show them what for it means to assassinate people

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Ahricucks.

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>>144727406
The solution is to continue building as you would normally, get your core items together and try to be mindful of the enemy's position. Honestly they kind of fucked you anyway because they had a Sejuani, someone that can punish the enemy for grouping up when the counterplay to Rengar is vision and sticking together, while you had a Shaco, a champion whose existance is entirely pointless beyond just being annoying so tough shit. At the very least you just keep on your toes and when fights break down you are a bigger threat because you invested in damage items instead of a 2400g Aatrox passive.

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Breast Waifu

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xth for Vayne's perfect butt and Vayne needing buffs

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I want to

Why do threads always start really heavy with the lewdposting/waifuposting and slow down a little bit later on in their life cycles?

>>144727723
>wanting vayne buffed
there's a special place in Elo hell for people like you

Is Perseus Panteon good skin or should I disenchant it for Pool Party Graves?

>>144727971
Disenchant

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>The only fun I get when playing lol is in a 3+ premade of friends
>They all hate ADC, so I have to most games
>End up hating the fucking role
>If I play it I turn into a salt-powered douchebag
>If I dont play it the enemy botlane is fed 10/0
>When I ask them to try other games they cant make the effort

Why am I still here ? Just to suffer ? Every night ?

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>>144727723
Vayne needs to stay in her hole and people need to stop picking her.

>>144727971
Disenchant it for something better than Pool Party Graves.

>>144727971
>not getting it for free for quitting league in 2012

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>>144727934
she hasn't been relevant since s3
everytime lucian is bad they buff him into relevancy, vayne has been left to rot for years now

>>144727682
that game wasn't salvageable

when your shaco loses an invade versus a sejuani the only thing you can do is pray

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Xth for Kat best waifu

>likes adc
>doesnt like lebron
help?

>>144728118

Vayne is still a Ranged Nasus.
Nasus was made deliberately shit in season 2 and now he is LITERALLY worse.

>>144728250
And that's fine. You're just going to lose sometimes and it's going to be fucking stupid. Just keep going.

>>144728283
Play another character then.

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>>144728260

she's already taken buddy

>>144728283
Play Cait, the best adc

>>144728346
but only adc i can play is ashe and mf anon

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Thanks rito
Punishment for dodging the game earlier with a teemo and a yasuo adc xd

>>144728341
>both have an overstated bad lanephase, become good duelists, are at their best snowballing to launch themselves into a strong mid/early late and both have hilariously overrated lategames

hey it kinda fits

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>>144728021
>tfw ADC main
Sorry you don't enjoy it

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>>144728408

>>144728405
Both of which are good right now so I don't see why it matters.
>>144728283
Non pussies play draven, jinx, or twitch.

>if your champ can be 'blind picked' without being punished, it's considered good

What champs are blind pickable?
I'd say Ahri, Lucian, and Vlad all qualify at the moment.

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>>144727007

xth for Cute Vi

Nightly Edition

>>144728691

Zed and Azir too.

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>>144727723
I want Vaynebuffs as well. It's one of the things that will make people stop whining about Swain and Vlad as she perfectly counters them.

Will give me plenty of role play opportunities too.

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Finally level 7 fizz boys.

Apparently snowballing the game early and winning to surrender gives you A+/S-

Only games you get S/S+ have to be dragged on with you having 15+ kills

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Best girl.
Best butt.
Best wife.

>>144729017
it's possible to get S/S+ in snowballed games the issue is that you have to have a high KP and most snowballed games have every lane solokilling their opponents

Is swain the only man who can deal with vladmir?

>>144729017
>level 7 fizz
kys

>>144728975
sustain tank is pretty much the only type of tank vayne doesn't counter

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>>144728975
wat

swain and vlad are two of the best vayne counters historically, especially now that qss is shit on
>try to deal damage to vlad
>get ulted + nova and q, bam vayne is dead

>try to get close to swain
>step into his death range, get slowed by rylais

vayne is terrible against those two
she's awful against bursty tanky mages with short range because she has to step into their range to deal damage to them and those mages are great at instagibbing ads

do i still build trinity on GP because of sheen?

>enemy gets early lead
>"surr 20"
No, fuck you

>yi tries to 1v5
>starts a surr vote
No, fuck you

All it takes is 1 good team fight at 40+min and we win.
Learn to play at a disadvantage.

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>>144729183
Vayne with executioners tho. Condemn to fuck up his E channel and also a good Vlad will be beefy after so silver bolts are welcome.

Okay maybe she doesn't counter Swain but lategame Vlad is her bitch. Hnnnnng.

>>144728021
Play good ADCs like Cait, Lucian and Tristana.

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>>144728841
>Start playing Azir in S5 when he came out
>Fucking atrocious early game, basically has to hug the turret to come out as anything other than negative
>Takes 30 minutes to scale up and actually do damage
>Now play him in S6
>He's one of the most overwhelming lane bullies who only scales better and better as time goes on

What the fuck even happened? Surely the change from AS for CDR to AS for skilling W couldn't have THAT much impact.

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>be bronze
>play ranked
>zed goes unbanned because of his "nerfs"
>pick zed
>win
>mfw

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>>144728975
Swain will eat that dumb bitch alive

>>144729319
Yes. Gangplank didn't build Trinity for the crit dude. It's still core on him, it just had its power shifted.

>>144729273
In my experience I stomp plenty of banes when they come to my lane early on but full build if she itemizes against me I'm dead meat.

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>>144729362
mfw I'm just melting everyone even when they cc me.
mfw I steal the enemy buffs since level 2 and onwards.

>>144729171
no.
counterplay.xyz

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>>144728975
>swain countered by vayne

literally the only tankyness relevant vs vayne is lifesteal/drain tanking

>>144729382
>tristana
>good
You guys got to stop using stixxay's roster as a way of determining if a champ is good or not.

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I want to go swimming in Lulu.

>>144729425
bugfixes my friend, hes gotten nonstop nerfs except a buff on his ult range from the back

Very hard to fuck up EQ combo now

>>144729431
>bronze
>win
Found the pattern

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>>144729504
full build vayne is one of the best duelists in the game, this is nothing new

vlad can still stall her for hours with pool zhonya pool and if vayne's in range to AA vlad she's going to eat a 1k dmg nova and a drain

vayne is not good vs vlad at all, especially with how strong vlad is right now and hemo being unqssable

Vayne is the Riven of ADC
Lee Sin is the Riven of the Jungle
Zed is the Riven of the assassins.

For early jungle camps should i be using my refillable during jungle clears or between them?

>>144729425
Keep in mind he also used to be buggy as fuck. I remember actually getting stuck in walls just from trying to dash to soldiers.

>>144729817
it... doesn't matter? as long as you're not wasting regen

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>>144729771
Any more stunning revelations you want to give us?

>>144729771
riven is her own monster

riven is everything riot hates but somehow they have deluded themselves into thinking she doesn't need a rework

riven has a ridiculous mechanical skillcap, is as feast or famine as it gets, absolutely oppressive when ahead, absolutely worthless when behind, gets tankiness for building damage, her gameplan is basically cheese on top of more cheese and she forces everybody to play her own game

>>144729880
>riot will never rework Riven because there are literal thousands of boxbox toddlers who would burn down Riot HQ if they even touched her

>>144728092
>2012
lmao newfag

>>144729880
oh and all her power is hidden behind bugs (MUH HIDDEN POWER)

>>144729572
Literally who?

She's good though.
She has great mobility, minor cc/escape.
Great damage and attack range.

She's like kogmaw in damage, but more mobile.

>>144729940
that's when they gave out perseus pantheon for free. r u retarded?

>>144729712
She can CC the e channel so no nova finishes the one engaging.
Full build Vayne will have sustain, Mr grievous wounds, which just makes competition sad.

350k mastery Vlad main here, I've experienced this over and over, it's the reason why I roam bot all the time when there's an enemy Vayne. Can't let her get relevant.

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>>144729880
>riven is everything riot hates but somehow they have deluded themselves into thinking she doesn't need a rework
It's because she's popular, not really rocket science.

>>144729880
>>144729936
>>144729963
>people that like riven and aren't good enough to play her

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>>144730021

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xth for best ass

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* ᴮᵘᵗ ᶰᵒᵇᵒᵈʸ ᶜᵃᵐᵉ

Which champion likes anime the most?

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>trying to explain to my mom how I can't "save the game" while playing lol
i hate that cunt so much. my chores can fucking wait, bitch.

>>144730189
D'Va

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>>144730189
lux

or rumble

>>144730189
annie becuz anime is 4 kids

>>144730201
hello underaged

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>>144730045
you can stop one nova and this also pulls him beyond your AA range
nova has a 5 (3 with CDR) CD so he will just throw another soon enough

im not discussing the fullbuild scenario (because fullbuild Vayne basically outduels everybody especially now that there is no reveal), i'm just saying Vayne winning a duel lategame doesn't make her a good pick
she also outduels Caitlyn lategame but Cait takes a dump on her for most of the game and even lategame because Cait also scales like a monster but is safer than Vayne

bringing up Vayne's dueling is really a bit nonsensical because Vayne is pretty much the GOAT duelist. in a fight scenario however Vayne is going to eat a shitton of damage if she tries to kill the Vlad, and the game is a 5v5

i have 300k mastery on Vayne, have mained her since S3 and been diamond since then as well, she's not a good pick into Vlad. i'd much rather have to deal with somebody like Malph/Mao/Trundle than a Vlad

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>>144730053
I like Riven but don't really like her playstyle actually. I don't like playing melee glass cannons. I don't really like playing anything but tanks and mages honestly.

>>144730125
Order of the Lotus is better

>>144730189
Yasuo, Zed, and Shen

>>144730301
this thing has different feet in every image you post

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Why do I never get any healslut supports? :(

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>>144730053
i like her design wise because i have a soft spot for white haired tomboys, but i don't like how she plays at all. and no it's not because i can't animation cancel, i get 1f links consistently in fightan games, please.

what im criticising is riots hypocrisy when riot fills a lot of their "bad design" buzzwords

>>144730514
probably because your stupidity hurts

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>>144730096
>>144730021
>small indie company

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I've legit lost 4 games in a row because of yasuo players like holy shit im so fucking tilt right now

>PICK LE EBIN WIND MAN OF OUT PLAYS
>PROCEED TO FEED ASS OFF FOR 15 MINS IN LANE
>???
>PROFIT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IS THIS WHAT THEY TEACH IN WINDMAN SCHOOL

1-3: Play League
4-6: Watch anime
7-9: Fill out those job applications
0: Kill myself

0 get

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Riven reminds me of Saber.

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>>144730809
same whiny weeb magnet material yes

riven is only good for being degraded in r34

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>>144730514
I know that feel all too well. Jhin wrecks house with mage supps. And all the explaining in the world during champ select cant seem to make tank supp mains understand that I cant do shit with their combos and perfect engages.

>>144730003
>doesn't know stixxay
>thinks trist is good
Bronze?

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>play irelia
>olaf shits on me in lane
>rape midgame anyway
>pick olaf to counter pick irelia
>irelia again rapes mid game anyway
Is this because I'm a gold 2 baddie?
How do you even counter irelia?

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>literally considering to buy an elo boost to where I was last season because I would look like a boosted shitter when i'm suddenly lower elo.

I'm Tryndamere against Trundle. What do?

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>>144731021
split push

I mean you are playing tryndamere this isn't rocket science

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how 2 meme as vlad support?

>>144731007
>becoming a boosted shitter because you don't want people to think you're a boosted shitter

stop trying to jungle your way to plat.

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>>144730915
>>144730697

>>144730514
>karma support doesn't work with jhin
I'll need you to explain your reasoning

>>144730951
The person you're quoting is complaining about having a karma support. I feel like you don't agree with him.

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>>144730265
>beyond aa range
Not if it's into a wall. Plus with Vayne passive/tumble kiting in and out of his ranges should be easy.

Honestly, from what I've seen with a properly efficient Vayne, Vlad won't live to start a second E channel.

And I agree with the rest but of all the adcs she has the potential to deal with him 1v1 the easiest.

I think you're overreacting on how scary new Vlad is. He is countered by any combination of the following: hard CC, superior dps, superior sustain, damage mitigation, wounds/%hp and maybe mobility and Vayne has a few of those, when usually two is enough.

>>144730953
oh boy I don't know some streamer whoo hoo~

how are you supposed to play against Garen as anything

the motherfucker is an unkillable god who runs at lightspeed

I'm new and I don't get it.

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>>144731432
taking wallpins in consideration when talking about Vayne is pointless, Vayne is going to kill anybody if she gets a wallpin

nova has 50 more range than Vayne's auto, all you have to do is release when she autoattacks you. no matter how good you are at kiting in and out of range, you simply can't outrange it and not get hit by it, even more considering rylai is a core item and he has a point and click way to apply the full slow which also deals significant damage

also if vayne is killing you in 3 seconds flat through zhonya/pool and potentially another pool she's just fed as fucking balls

What do you do as ADC when your solo lanes are sand bagging

>>144731542
ban him. Hes way too strong right now. Im surprised he got through into your games

>>144730189
Rumble

Maybe Ekko too

>>144729546
it's attack speed slows actually

Is this a good ADC page?
AS quints, flat armor yellows, scaling mr blues, flat ad reds

I'm considering taking scaling armor yellows. Does anyone know roughly how big a difference being down 9 armor at early levels is?

>>144730265
upgraded red trinket reveals champions

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>>144731174
Riven is for femdom and foot worshipping.
I want to feed her plenty of kills and masturbate furiously while she's stomping my team!

>>144731932
lmao oh you

>>144731917
duo laners don't go for scaling resists because it takes them too long to hit the point where they even out, while also needing the resists full time unlike junglers, the other role with an xp deficit

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>>144731948
Lewd.

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Playing this game feels like such a fucking shore god damn.

when is another big game like overwatch gonna come out to deal the killing blow this fucking trash?

>>144731917
its literally nothing, the page you have is the page %90 of players run except they have flat mr glyphs

>>144731542
You CC him after Q and he is shit. You move away from his E. You shred his armor. You kite him, you pick ranged top and ruin his lane. You get Dominik's.

Garen is a great champ to have in the game if only because he exposes the literal retards (and no, you aren't a retard for losing to said mediocre champ, you are so for whining about it here).

>>144731917
never take scaling anything in a duo lane

Use your brain anon cmon

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>I don't play for fun anymore, I only play to win
Is it time to stop playing?

>>144732020
>>144732080
>>144732117
there's no point in taking flat mr if the enemy doesn't have a mage support though

>>144731157
h-how do you know I main jungle

>tfw finally got a pentakill with windy samurai

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>>144731570
>wallpin consideration is pointless
oh come on now. it's a key part of her kit.

>release when she autoattacks you
so a good vayne will time her tumble/cc for when nova needs to be dealt with, and then she will have a 3sec window of do whatever you want while Vlad tries to look pretty so you spare him.

Honestly,we are considering 2 champs loaded with play and counterplay and listing these opportunities and hypothetical situations is a bit pointless.

>>144731146
pic related
tank supp items and then straight tank
rylai

>>144732265
except for when the enemy midlaner roams on your ass

>>144732265
all supports do magic damage and plenty of it

try taking scaling mr into nami and watch as she shits on you until you afk

>>144732265
Tell me 1 real support champ that deals more physical damage than magic damage. Go on, i'll wait.

>>144730953
>>144731502


So I looked him up.
Nice 1 win, 4 losses.
Real good player.

>>144732358
can you swap regions twice to reset your mmr ?

>>144732253
Take a full week off, no game, no threads, no streams, no patch notes then see how you feel.

>Your friendly toplaner: don't worry guys I am fed
>25 minutes in
>they have yet to leave top lane and have been pushing it regardless of the fights for dragons/sieges
>lose teamfight cause its 4v5
>YO FUCKING SCRUBS WAIT FOR ME

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>>144732309
it is a key part of her kit but if you get pinned you fucked up hard and you're naturally going to die

at the end of the day i'm talking in more general terms that just a duel. vayne has 550 range and requires uptime to deal significant damage to enemies, and relies a lot on dodging to not die instantly. vlad is a tanky sustainy toplaner with huge point and click damage and generously sized aoes. the very least vayne is going to eat in a fight is a hemoplague which will her for anywhere in the vicinity of 500-700 ish damage, and anytime she tries to go dps the frontline she's going to have to deal with rylai transfusion and a potential nova. it's a huge risk for her since she is made of wet paper, and she'd much rather have to deal with a tanky fuck she can juke around and kite

>>144731932
it shows you where they are but they remain untargetable

does twitch jungle still work

>>144732568
>top laner feeds the living hell out of enemy pantheon
>hes 8/0
>Shit myself because he can literally ult ontop of me mid and one shot me that early in the game
>He never leaves top and loses 8/7

>be caitlyn
>against support zed
> win lane, get fed
>support zed doesnt get many kills, has no farm and is underleveled
> still able to duel me when i have 4 items and he barely has 2.

I love this meme!

>>144732701
>be support w/e
>cant win game because everyone that plays adc just walks forward and doesnt A move and can't play the role properly
>lose every game where I don't personally play adc

>>144732701
JUST QSS

HIS

sightstone

>>144732789
>be warwick
>flash onto adcs so they pop QSS
>proceed to ult
>rinse and repeat because ADC's are idiots

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what is the hardest I can meme as support?

>>144732701
>high burst champion deletes a super squishy champion who lacks burst and has more even DPS/excels in long trades

Like, deleting the squishy is LITERALLY Zed's job, and peeling him off of you is your support's job.

Zed's total bullshit, but he's total bullshit because he has amazing poke, waveclear, safety, pushing power, never has to leave lane because he's manaless, and can build off tank but still delete people. Complain about one of those things not the assassin doing the one thing they're actually meant to do.

>be plat irelia main
>lose to exhaust yasuo on my silver smurf
In like 200 games I've never encountered this matchup
felt good learning again, don't think my silver friend was too impressed though.

>>144730201

underage b&

>>144732926
>Play warwick when sated still existed
>Red smite ult adcs
>They qss and flash away
>Damage still goes off and they die anyways

Fuck bloodrazor ;_;

>>144731570
Why doesn't Poopy kill off wallpins?

Why do we have one champ that has a 'oh if you get this off you win forever'?

Why are the short range ADC's the ones that play like they're in a different game, while longer range ones are 'meh' until items break them?

>>144733441
Because taking a big risk should give some sort of reward

>>144732596
>tfw when my team is THAT incompetent I have to be the solo one diving the bane and getting wiped out while they're going 4v4 away from us.

anyway, a good Vayne will get some MR and be less easy to burst down. She will drop to around 600 Hp and lifesteal it back up with botrk/lifesteal
>it is a key part of her kit but if you get pinned you fucked up hard and you're naturally going to die
most champs don't have the luxury of having to put some of their kit out of consideration when considering counters.

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>>144731002
I just played Poppy against her and I basically just denied her farm with Q and whenever she tried to fight me I just smacked her into a wall if possible and walked away and let minions aggro her. Clearly this Irelia was retarded. I only had it rough because their Yi was shit and camped me all game but even then just farm and make plays with teleport.

>>144732074
You're pathetic.

>>144733441
Risk vs Reward, it's just that Riot is really bad at balancing the two out so the characters that should be high risk/reward like Lucian or Zed end up being low risk/high reward because of bad design choices.

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>>144733441
because Poppy's wallpins have a much lower CD (6s with CDR and maxes it seconds vs Vayne's 20 at rank 1 and 12 at max rank and she doesn't build CDR)
because Poppy's wallpins also double as a gapcloser and even a peeling spell
because Poppy's wallpin stuns for 2s instead of 1.5s
because Poppy's wallpin also is easier to land since it doesn't have a gigantic cast-time

but more than anything because they're different champs and one is a carry and the other is a bruiser. oh and Poppy can actually pretty much instakill carries if she gets a stun off

>>144733521
assuming Vayne gets a wallpin is like assuming Fiddle always gets a full drain channel. it's a part of her kit, yes, but it's hard to land and very situational, and if you're trying to duel Vayne you know not to stand beside walls

>>144733490
But it's not a risk. You're more at risk playing the long range carries with no escapes and severely limited mobility. Captain B-ball just chases and disengages as he pleases, and gets a damage buff out of doing so. Vayne can go invisible, and has primacy on disengages because she can close quickly and vanish.

They're both cancerous damage shitting machines that dont even have to build the big ticket items everyone else needs to grind for in lane. They spike faster, kill faster, and scale better.

Champs used to have weaknesses like 'Annie goes oom if you don't use her Q reset on last hits properly'. Now weaknesses require a full 5 man comp to cover.

(I just want MF to be good too. As it stands, MF is an ult bot. Vayne is a walking graveyard.)

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LOL BRO

JUST FUCKING CARRY HARDER

NOT THAT HARD

HAHAHA

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>>144733978
Ms Fortune has a sky high win rate and a pretty solid play rate too. She seems quite fine to me man.

>>144732701
>4 items
>no lifesteal
>no as/crit
If you had those you could just right click him. Work on your item build, bronze shitter.

>>144734035
Your winrate is pretty good, you just have to realise that not every game is winnable and even having a 51% winrate means your climbing so no need to tilt my man

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And they told me supports cant carry...

>>144734203
>strength of ages
What are you doing?

>>144733802
.5s
Vayne's entire kit is a gapcloser
Every part of it ups her damage output
Bruiser poppy wastes her tanky kit. You're better off building classic Vi style

They're different champs. But saying 'oh if vayne wallpins you, then you deserve to die' is a rather specious argument. Everything about vayne seems to be a 'well you probably should be as good as the vayne player' when the kit is such a major part of that.

Don't get me wrong. I've seen bad vaynes. I've supported a lot of bad vaynes. I just don't like how she's part of the 'really good' roster when Yorick still has to exist.

>amumu support
Should I just dodge?

>>144733978
Untrue. With vayne its very hard to get damage off, its much easier to carry teamfights with cait or jinx. Speaking as a vayne/cait player with 380k mastery on vayne and 90k on cait.

Youve already heard tons of reasons as to why this is the case. If you feel like playing vayne in 5v5s is so easy, why dont you do it yourself? Surely you can show everyone else how its done :^)

Also mf is broken this patch but ok w.e iu want to believe.

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For arpen memes should I just use this?

>>144734283
He's carrying. Can't you read?

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>>144734283

Winning

>>144734137
Same

>>144734391
Its just bad leona, youre fine

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>>144734389
vayne isn't "really good" right now, i invite you to try her if you think she is

her damage output is rightclick only, and as an AD you don't really want gapclosers. she has mobility, yes, but it's not as good as Ez/Lucian's, and she's actually not very mobile before level 13 (if she's maxing W, which she should if she wants to deal any damage)

vayne is pretty exploitable right now, and most of the popular and strong picks do really well against her

>>144734449
Yes you should use armor penetration runes in an armor penetration runepage.

>>144734391
Amumu's ult and tankieness/damage is so broken mid-late game. If it's a good amumu, you'll be fine.

>>144734081
Define Sky High
Anivia's win rate always seemed to me a matter of merit: people who stuck with the stupid mana vacuum bird through thick and thin ended up being really good at her.
Similarly Lee Sin has a trash win rate, but his kit and effect on the game is really strong. He just has a bunch of paste eaters attempting to Insec when they haven't mastered coloring.

I'm not claiming I'm some MF god and my elo is only low because they won't buff my champ who needs it. I don't even ADC in ranked (I will take her top one day). I just don't like the disparity of mechanics. If you want them to have these strengths, then give them weaknesses that wouldn't apply to any ADC.

>>144734035
>those items
why the fuck do people still go for electro shank when you could go AOE SPLASH

>>144734682
Why not AD?

>>144734729
Because you want armor penetration in your armor penetration runepage. If you use AD runes you get an AD runepage.

>>144734782
What happens when items have Armor Pen and Attack Damage?

>>144734836
Never go half retard. It's all or nothing.

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>>144734719
MF is really fucking strong right now anon, she's top 3

also if you're talking about Vayne having no champion-specific weaknesses you're wrong
among others

>exclusively single-target
>no waveclear to speak of
>no damage past 550 units
>needs uptime to deal significant damage
>pretty useless from behind

the only AD with no real champ-only weaknesses is Lucian
MF is an ultbot, yes, but her ult is one of the most gamechanging in the game and can wipe an entire team in two seconds.

>>144734906
Do I just stack ghost blades then senpai?

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>>144734719
Miss Fortune has a 54%+ winrate in every single elo and her pickrate is steadily increasing. He has like the 9th highest pickrate in Plat+ which isn't terribly high given how few ADCs there are but it's going up. She's a strong character and is probably going to see bans in time. She is a very powerful character and I suggest picking her up.

>>144734949
UNIQUEs don't stack, dumbo. Get Ghostblade, Maw, Zedblade and a Dirk.

>>144727934
its a bait, you fell for it

I got traditinal Karma for 50% off
Ye or nah

>>144735140
It's her best skin

How does % damage reduction even work on the raw damage or after resists and how does for example ninja tabs and pd damage reduction stack ??

>>144734398
I should apologize. I probably stated too strongly what I think.

I think there is a disparity between ADC's that is not as prominent in other roles.

MF and Vayne both have an attack speed reset, an on hit damage steroid, move speed steroid, and CC. In this regard, the disparities of their kits are less objectively glaring.

I just wish it wasn't the other parts of that that made one and unparalleled duelist, and the other 'pretty good at splitpushing'.

It's not a matter of strength. It's a matter of investment and skill ceiling. Vayne can have real decisions about AA, tumble kite, AA, tumble kite, pin, swing reset, etc.

MF is pretty good at giving you a 50 cal facial from behind a wall.

Disclaimer: subjective.

>>144735140
nah

it got reworked for a reason anon

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>>144733802
>assuming Vayne gets a wallpin is like assuming Fiddle always gets a full drain channel. it's a part of her kit, yes, but it's hard to land and very situational, and if you're trying to duel Vayne you know not to stand beside walls

So the Vlad will always land everything and complete his channels? Btw, Q is a channel too, albeit brief.

<STOP PICKING BARD HOLY SHIT EVERY GAME MY TEAM OR ENEMY TEAM THEY LOSE FOR THE ENTIRE TEAM GET ME OUT OF HERE>

Can I buy specific champion shards in the shop for mastery 6/7? I can only find a "random" champion shard for 1700 IP.

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>shitter plays nid jungle
>proceeds to farm and exert now pressure
>meanwhile ww is being an oppressive asshole to the point that you'd think he is cancerous
I fucking hate nidalee players, meme character for meme players

</STOP PICKING BARD HOLY SHIT EVERY GAME MY TEAM OR ENEMY TEAM THEY LOSE FOR THE ENTIRE TEAM GET ME OUT OF HERE>

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>>144735140
It sucks ass, just get Lotus or Warden.

>>144735261
Enjoy it now, because once Dark Star Thresh comes out you're going to have to deal with garbage Thresh players most likely. I like that skin.

>>144735286
Nidalee, to me, highlights a problem Riot has where the visual appeal of a character is frequently inversely proportional to how fun they are to actually play. This mostly applies to females.

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>>144735184
different characters have different skillcaps anon

vayne's skillcap is why so many people are attracted to her
this doesn't mean MF can't be fun, i personally only have mastery 7 on vayne and mf because they're my two favourite ADs

also, MF is by far the best teamfighting AD so it's not like she is without her strengths

>>144735254
you can not get wallpinned by positioning decently
vayne cannot stop anything more than one channel every 20-12 seconds

it's not even remotely similar
if getting a wallpin was something you could always count on Vayne would be the best AD in the game

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>riot will never ever release a simplistic and unique champion ever again
>every new champion will have an overloaded kit, be designed for big plays, have a minigame attached, or have confusing mechanics all for the sake of riot trying to seem smart
>the roster of currently simplistic champions will dwindle due to riot "modernizing" them
why are we still here
just to suffer?

>>144735490
sometimes the game is legitimately fun

>>144735490
>Taliyah
>Bard
>Jhin
>Kindred

Those are all fairly simple

Even Dota doesn't release "simple" champions anymore.

>>144734035
Tbqh if you were attempting to split push the whole game there's no real reason you should've lost. They don't have a single person who could deal with you.

>>144735490
It's 2016

>>144735421
>>144735490
I for one, enjoy my UNGA BUNGA characters.

Also remember that complexity and depth are different things.

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I want Lulu to sit on my face.

>>144734652
Hey cool you sound like you're willing to engage me. Please help me learn these things:

1. What's exploitable about vayne, besides 'prevent her getting to lategame'? It's easier to stall a game out than finish it, and I tend to not play assassins, so Vayne is always a problem for me from the end of midgame onward.

2. I get she's not that strong. What happened? I thought she had some memebuild with Guinsoo's and Botrk and Bloodrazor. Any way when I said the 'really good roster', I meant that there seem to be a list of champs that never quite go out of style. Yorick and Jayce don't seem to make that list anymore, and I don't think Urgot was ever really on it.

3. I don't much care for the carries you listed either. I wish the whole roster showed up more often. DotA 2 seemed to have more in the way of 'pick by comp and how your team functions', where league has a lot of 'pick the strongest one you can' due to homogenization. Who does well against Ez and Luc? And why? Can one of them be Jhin? I'm autistic enough to 'get' him.

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>>144735654
People are forgetting Lulu's canon look

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>Mordekaiser is finally getting a REAL rework and VU after Yorick
>tfw he'll no longer be a mage
>tfw no AP ratios at all
>tfw no longer king of farming and waveclear
>tfw they'll take his ghost out
>tfw he'll be a boring to play fucking tank
>tfw minigames, stacking on hit passive, passives on top of actives
>tfw no more 3!!!

I'm sad you guys.

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>>144735751
I'm not.

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>>144735751
>white lulu

>>144727723
Urgh...

Just send her top lane against the slew of meta tanks. She makes their lives miserable there, so she's still useful ok?

>>144735421
and you can easily tumble out of E range if you see it coming.

One champ has everything in their kit and build path available to counter the other. I don't see how that's not a hypothetical win.

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>>144735569
>Even Dota doesn't release "simple" champions anymore.
dota doesn't release new heroes anymore at all

>>144734974
I used to play her in trash elo with a wacky Sightstone/Yomuus/Mobo build that involved homeguarding around the map to clear minions and push objectives, then speeding away while the other team tried to catch me. I played the green hill zone theme every time.

I am guessing if I want to play her seriously I can't do this. Is it just the memebuild? Yomuu's Duskblade and BC? Why is the duskblade good on ADCs? Sorry I'm not always the best informed.

Also can I take her top ? I kind of don't ADC per se.

>>144735775
>you will never buy 11 health pots
>you will never back and buy 30 more health pots to continue crushing your lane

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>>144735804
>>144735830
Now here's an actual cutie Yordal

>>144735929
fuck you nigger

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>tfw 6 game losing streak
>tfw in 4 of those games there was a yasuo who fed 10+ kills
where do you find the strength to continue, /lolg/?

>>144735891
>1 million players
>can't get anyone new

>league
>10+ million players
>dead game

lul

>>144727007
they banned brand who do I play supp in silver and how do I win

regular supports dont work

lux? zyra?

>>144735891
well after the last hero to be added is released, they'll start so i guess we'll see where it goes from there

>>144735982
V E L K O Z
E
L
K
O
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>>144735982
annie

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>>144735967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYzMYcUty6s&ab_channel=MetalGearFro

Dark times are just a test to see if you're worthy. Best of luck, anon.

Anyone has any sick and l33t videos? Any webms, youtube links?

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>>144735908
Duskblade is good on MF specifically because unlike most ADCs she gets more out of AD and Armor Pen than Attack Speed and Critical Hit. She has a fair amount of burst actually.
>Can I take her top
No. Try Mid

>>144735929
Best Yordle
Best skin

>>144736057
>>144736075
were facing jax vayne wukong talon and a support

its a loss isnt it

>>144736075
This. If you want to just kill, and likely don't own velkoz, annie is way better than lux.

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>Taliyah is the most cutest champion Riot has made in YEARS
>Is totally fucking useless
Why

>>144736163
>jax vayne wukong talon

build armor and you win
they have a team of edgelords

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=unbelievable+1

how am i supposed to win with people like this on my team

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>>144736163
You're against a meme team. If you lose, that's on you.

>>144735965
If only Poppy would say that to me

>support velkoz
>literally a FREE double kill when he hits 6
Fuck that gay shit.

>>144736147
>>144735929
QT FANG

>>144735891
this. Also Pit Lord is anything BUT complicated (AKA the last remaining champ to get ported). He is meme incarante tho I'll give you that.

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>>144736237
Her winrate is stablizing after the buffs actually. She's not awful but she is weird.
>Excited for a cute tomboy that casts EARTHQUAKE STONE EDGE STEALTH ROCK on shitters
>Get a girl forced to be ugly to push an agenda because apparently average = blatantly unattractive with a kit that's very roundabout instead of being straightforward and blunt the way I wanted it because the designers are idiots.
Taliyah had a hard life. She's kind of fun though admittedly.

So do you get a popup every time someone you report gets banned or? Because i had a guy that got 9x'd in my game and nothing

>>144736423
>Ugly
You motherfucker

>>144735929
poppy a cute

but
>>144735654
hnnnngh

Mejais should give 1 MPen per stack

>>144736147
That's it? Stats? Why is it built second over BC?

Mid is a safer lane but the person who queued bot is always ready to tell me 'oh no you can't take MF mid. I'll mid and you go bot', then locks ahri and dies. Top is too scary and far away. They don't go there. Maybe I'll try though.


I played a poopy v vayne top today. I am going to say I got crushed most of the game and apologize.

I didn't get ganks, which probably didn't improve the situation. Our panth was too busy dying to wolves.

I went 1 and 4 to Vayne's 4 and 4. Spent the latter half the game farming between top and mid while my team fed their asses off.

What do I do when Vayne shows top? She seems to have enough damage to end me, even on poppy. Please don't just say I'm bad. I already know that. That's why I'm asking for help.

>>144736258
>support vel
>get focused in every single fight
>explode like an airbag in a microwave
>ADC is ignored and makes it an easy 2 for 1
>team fights turn into 4 for 1s because I still keep getting focused, letting my team sweep theirs

What an odd game

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>>144734701
>>144734624
This fucking Amumu... knew I should have dodged. "GG, can't carry you shitters" he said.

I'm absolutely livid.

Fuck this elo. I miss bronze.

>>144736494
Not that Anon, but like... She isn't ugly per see, but then you tacked on a nose that has nothing to do with anything resembling a human face, and yeah, she ends up ugly.

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For those of you in dark times and wondering if it's all worth it in the end.

>>144736686
what am i looking at with that amumu build? i dont understand what i'm seeing. was he support?

>>144736805
He's the carry Bronze deserves

>>144736805
Correct, he was """""support""""" that couldn't even tank.

>>144736742
Didn't people think Illaoi was ugly too?

Isn't this just a matter of different strokes?

Like, Illaoi is for people who want to be taken by a thick woman.

Kindred is for furries.

Taliyah is for people who wanted to fuck gabe from penny arcade

Just kidding she's alright.

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>>144736494
She is. It's weird because the "cuteness" she could have is there in a way, but she was clearly sabotaged. Her in-game model and movements make up for her fuckawful splash.

>>144736506
Vayne top is cancer because it isn't actually good much of the time as it denies the team a meaningful frontliner much of the time and is only there to shit on people that dared to pick a tank. That said there isn't a ton you can really do. Top is counterpick heavy and unless your jungler is willing to join you in going Brazzers on Vayne's sunglasses be prepared to farm under tower. Just play Quinn instead she's cuter and more fun than Vayne.
>That's it? Stats? Why is it built second over BC?
Stats and the passive. MF gets more out of it and immediately. MF scales very hard with AD.

>>144736641
>explode like an airbag in a microwave
>not building full tank with a void staff

>>144736686
>least kill participation in the entire game
>same farm as the rest of your team who actually teamfought

You were the problem you shitter

>>144737029
You're right. Absolutely.

>want to play a ranked game instead of normals
>immediately feel queasy before I'm even in queue
>massively underperform in a way that's blatantly not consistent with my level of play in normals


Fuck this. I'm just going to play normals from now on. How can my winrate there be 65% and my ranked winrate is 26%?

>>144737135
>play ranked
>want to play a game of normals
>don't try at all and farm all game
>win

lel

people in normals are absolute trash senpai

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>still waiting for aurelion Sol to show up in the lcs

Fuck, it feels like it won't even happen

Wow. CJ just got wrecked.

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How is this guy Diamond III with minus then average performance on his signature champ if he climbed to no.1 in Korea?

>>144736903
If you're the same anon, you've been very helpful. If you're a different anon, you've all been moderately helpful but you're a cool lot of folks.

Top is a lot of 'be patient or wait for jungle', I think. I tend to play a lot of Vlad, Swain, and Morg for this reason. When my friend is jungling I still play those because he's a piece of shit and never ganks my lane unless I do all the work.

We do shout 'brazzers' on the call when we get a good kill together though. So thanks for that.

I played Quinn for a bit, but felt she didn't have enough to proper carry on her own at my skill level, and I was keeping our team from having a tank. I tend to prefer tanking and supporting, just because I don't trust others to get it right. Nobody can ward and nobody can peel. (When I do both of these they just suicide anyway. I hate this fucking game.)

>>144737257
I thought all the pros played in tournament realm soloq now

>>144737265
>Not even 250k views during a big tournament
>"dying" LCS gained over 300k views during regular split
try harder, KEK 2

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>>144737132
As long as you know.

P.S. - Meditation doesn't do shit for vlad you absolute shitlord

Did you know that "Cuck" get's replaced with KEK in this image board? Censorship at it's finest, boys.
(just in case it doesn't show up, I typed C u c k)

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>>144737265
>overwatch 33k views
Jesus fuck, the game already dying.

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>>144737360
Dude

Vladfag here

Fix your runes and masteries

Shove 10% cdr into blues

get a ms quint

for mid run stormraider

for top run sota

don't use ugly skins with horrid splashes, the old nosferatu was cool but this one is bleh in every way

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>>144727779
be Riven's slave!

>>144737458
KEK

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>tfw no abusive girl ADC main to insult me and make me lick her feet
Why do all the LoL girls play support? It's not fair.

>>144737458

I'm curious what it's like to be cuck ed

>>144736897
As I said, people don't ahte her, the yahte RIOTs shitty art. he concept is great, same for Illaoi. But whatever fuckwad is in charge fo their official art always manages to fuck it up.

I'm still fucking angry about Illoai, there are so many retarded things about her design, most of all her clothes and tatoo coloration.

Which is doubly infuriating because I wanted the archetype in LoL for very long now and we got "literal Braum model"-the champ.

>>144737596
I play ADC but my bf is a shit support and better than me

>>144737567
holly shit. you can't type KEK!
>>144737616
Capital letters, you moro

>>144737360
>meditation
>DES over EW
o i am laffin
is 18/12 even best for vlad?
i don't really play vlad but I feel like going into resolve for healing and summoner cooldown would be so much better

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The pain of living with 8 people is guessing when you're net will be good
I think Im starting to see a patern when 1 guy is home I have shit net.

>>144737458
shut up Çùćķ

>>144737620
brown Braum model*

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeErJJqBlek&ab_channel=Kshaway
>Why are my teammates so bad?
lolg is a bunch of KEK

>>144737707

>tfw you live with a chronic masturbater

>>144737781
Is 6 times a day chronic? I'm just depressed ;_;

>>144737707
Tell him to stop being a KEK and not torrent

whew lads I was right, Tali is finally free week

>>144737541
>>144737646
The point is this silver surfer actually thought support amumu was the reason he lost his game when he had the same amount of gold as him as a solo laner.

He had a 28% kill participation, yet the same cs as the rest of his team and no level lead above them either.

So he wasn't teamfighting, and he wasn't splitpushing, he had to literally be jacking off between deaths to end up with that score.

Guy is straight trash and can't admit it

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>>144737279
I've been the same one I just post random ass images, usually fighting games or Ougi or frogs or some shit.

Top depends on the matchup. People like Darius or Garen want to be aggressive and go for trades. Characters like Vladimir will slow roll people until they just become unkillable while killing everything around them.

Quinn is an a ranged assassin/splitpusher though, so I wouldn't pick her into just anything. You should try Sion.

>>144737596
My best friend is a girl that plays support. I hate botlane and usually just go top or mid.
She's gay anyway.

>>144737812
yes

prob selling my old LoL acc

s1/s2 gold n plat respectively with a couple vintage snowdown skins and a handful of legendaries.

can anyone give a rough price check? can give more info on the acc if needed. just updating the client so i can actually see what skins i have and any loose rp.

>avg queue time 5 minutes
>wait 10 minutes, restart queue
>currently 10 minutes in queue again
yay

>>144737620
So you wanted 'Big thick woman'? I did. I got what I wanted, honestly. She's not scary enough, if anything.

I think it's a shame Illaoi is basically black widow from Dota2: never leaves top, but shoves the shit out of it and rules her lands. It's really cool they have that champ and that there's now potential diversity in what champs do in game besides their generic role. But Illaoi is too tired somehow, even if innovative. Ugh it's late.

I think she's a bit too fantasy ethnic, personally.

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Since we recently have those personal stores (I presume so since my region just got the patch that has this today and I think you guys already have this around 5 days ago more or less), let's post our deals and judge others deals.

>>144737781
>tfw am a chronic masturbater
I at least put music on or a movie scene on in the background, Last time was the Final Battle in Gurren Lagann movie
Is 3 times a day Chronic?
>>144737812
You should try and reduce it, it feels better
>>144737826
That would be a bit hypocritical then

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>>144738060

>>144737874
Try him to what end? I have not kept up with the poor guy, and I don't see him in trash elo where I am. What's the deal with Sion?

Y-You're pretty cool anon.

>>144738268
Well, aren't you a huge faggot getting lead on by the guy who has a huge boner for Sion.

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yasuo players are actually fucking tilting me right now I have a fucking headache, why do fucking shitters keep picking this piece of shit character

>>144738060
I got SA MF in mine. The other skins I don't remember. I don't really mind. I get to run around as Jessica Rabbit. I am constantly hard while playing. It's like my own hell mode of the Vlad Game

>azir and Ryze two of the strongest mid laners, pick ban in solo q and competitive
>46% and 47% winrate respectively in diamond +

Is this a win lane lose game problem or are people just like really bad?

>>144738384
he is fun

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>>144738268
Sion doesn't get picked often because whatever reason I don't know and don't care all I know is that he and Poppy are the most fun top laners in the game. You fucking trampoline people while screaming at the top of your lungs at all times because Scott McNeil is fantastic. Sion is strong early and late but dips somewhat in the mid game. Since he's a rare pick people don't respect his damage and he's very easy to just fuck stuff up with. When you want to trade or deny farm just tag the enemy with E then IMMEDIATELY activate W and charge Q just long enough to hit them with the stun, pop the shield and punch them in the head and go back to farming. Just be wary of people that can cancel your Q.

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I fap to DJ Sona a lot

Today i played my 10 placement matches. Got put in Silver 4, played League for like a month and don't know what 70% of the champions do. Feels good that i am not in Bronze.

I play ADC and support. But they almost always ban Blitzcrank so i'm forced to play Braum. Played Braum like twice.

>>144738427
You don't get someone babysitting for you the whole game like Ryze might need. So both.

>>144735853
>implying vayne isn't the easiest shit to camp ever

>>144737997
Ah I wanted "big strong woman" but her design nended up beigng the most monotonous, brown shit in the world.

Which is fucking insulting to logic, as she is insipred off some of the most colorfuly clothed cultures in the fucking world. But we got brown generic clothes (shit looks like a WoW low level set without shoulderpads and helmet) and tatoos that are colored so they can't even be seen 90% of the time.

>>144738367
I am <3. Please keep calling me names in a sexually demeaning way.

I couldn't tell Sion and Urgot apart for half a year when I started playing.

>>144727779
Play the last update of Noxian Nights already holy fuck.

>>144738384
>keep picking this piece of shit character
Yas is really gud though. He just can't be shut down early or he becomes trash.

>>144738427
Azir has a weak early game so people often feed to strong early game champs before they hit their power spikes.

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Sion is fun.

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>MFW the only reason Riot expanded to Japan was to get better rule34 of LoL

>>144738613
Faggot please go and stay go.
>>>/lgbt/

>>144736926
I don't think you understand. I got hit by EVERYTHING. If the death of the teams were added up, 90% of their kills were me, but they still lost because they always lost 2 or 3 trying because of poor focus. My carry put it quite well: "don't worry about it. You're the distraction"

Every time, Lux bind, 3 or 4 ults melt me, then they die because our carries took advantage of their cool downs

>>144738761
Where is the freezy fist senpai?

>>144738918
Forgot to buy it till the end.

>>144738770
>Negative attention isn't good attention

Really why would I go to a board to discuss being gay? I play league too much to manage any real relationship. Besides all they talk about is how Taric is the best support and super brave for building sightstone instead of a phallic substitute longsword.

>>144738769
sakimichan isn't jap

also
>tfw he/she makes 54k a month

>>144739005
Who are you quoting?

>>144739069
I'm just making shit up bruh. Jokes. Somebody had taken the wind out of my sails and I was trying to play it off. I doubt they discuss league much on /lgbt/.

Less humerously I prefer the shitposting arguments about waifus and pictures of tits. Far less stressful than playing the videogame for real. Husbando posting is cool too. Fair is fair.

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>tfw ran into a fellow lolg shitposter in a ranked
To the Caitlyn I just played with, I wanted to tell you that you were a massive shitter.

I was too though.

t.blitzcrank

what's the counter to wukong walking down lane then turning invisible from just behind tower and engaging on you as the enemy jungle? not like i can ward their lane, or reliably ward their bush

>>144739494
you should watch qt's streams and learn how to actually play

faggot

>>144739494
what did i do wrong? besides die 2v1 in a lane cause you were blitzcrank against morgana?


and way to whiff every hook in the game besides against an ulting wukong

>>144739568
Then don't bother ganking wukong if the top laner isn't even trying to force wukong to go invi

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>mfw i have to waste an entire ban on taliyah because someone on my team might pick her

>ARAM because everything else is cancer for leveling
>5 melees against 3 adcs, ryze and a kayle

Good job for STILL having no restrictions / limitations on that shit riot, is it so hard to give each team the equal amount of melees/ranged?

>>144739734
wukong was enemy jungle, i was bot lane

>>144739684
>>144739494

>when the flaming transcends the game platform and you find a way to continue arguing with the internet person on a stage where other people can watch the retardation unfold

stay free, guys.

>>144739684
>6 and 10