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This day in history, June 7th:
1099 – First Crusade: The Siege of Jerusalem begins.
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>News
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# Archive
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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
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>>EU4 - BDSM
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>>[CK2 - 2.4.5] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.3 - 21/03/2016
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>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
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>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
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>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
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Old Thread >>144669406
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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New ck2 dlc when
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HoI4 is kinda shit, dudes.

The OoB of HoI3 was the closest thing we had of HoI series evolving into a wargame.
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vic 3 when?
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Ffs the division designer would actually be superior to hoi3 if they didn't have to add army mana for changing it

What is the reasoning behind it? Fucks sake
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>>144691889
never, johan confirmed it in todays stream
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tips for japs?
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>>144691874
Yeah, I know

>>144691898
Dunno why they did that either
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>>144691874
This 2bh

Bit sad now
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>>144691940
Don't kill yourself and breed more
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>>144691851
>>144691889
You can find updates on the Paradox blog

https://www.paradoxplaza.bIoghost.com/
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>>144691874
No shit
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>>144691874
You mean evolving into having a job in accounting.
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>>144692134
totally not a virus goys
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>>144691874
I mean it isnt amazing, but its fun enough. With mods I think it can reach the level of HOI3 and maybe beyond, but it depends on if itll have enough of a dedicated mod support from people.
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>>144691898
This 2bh. Battalions are cool but what's the point in training mana
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>>144691874
>wargame

WHY DO YOU WANT THAT SO MUCH
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>>144692134
>le false link to malware site again
I don't know how mods didn't ban you for spreading your malware shit here
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>>144691780

I have around 900 hours in hoi 3 breh.
And i don't see what was so tedious about clicking on a corps/army and moving it kinda close to your front line divisions every once in a while.
You didn't have to move them at the same fucking time all the time.
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>>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.3.1
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t
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>>144691295
>>144691940
did you try drawing pointier arrows?
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Don't understand this battle shit

Make a border, draw offensive line, execute order? Is that literally as deep as it goes? No intricacies?
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>>144691898

The army mana's the worst part about it. You can't really try out badical experimental compositions or strategies or anything because you're locked behind the fucking army mana before your first war.

I wanted to try mechanized/blitzkrieg France
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>>144692309
Based Cobra
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>>144692309
cobra lad why don't you like my meme mod
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>>144692359
Are there any penalties to controlling your units manually? The battle plan execution feels awful. I have been playing it like Darkest Hour.
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>>144692359
Well in hoi3 if you were automating troops it was just click on the capital and unpause

Why not move the troops yourself ladm8
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>>144692359

Pretty much, anon.
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>>144692551
Who the fuck automated theaters in HoI3 ?
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Can someone explain why navies have their own factories (dockyards) but planes and ground troops use the same?

Feels like they should have kept it as all 3 sharing one type or given each its own type
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Just got home from work. Where's a download link.
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Veteran Hoi3 player here , how the heck do I manage the troops? I can do anything except actual combat.
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>>144692656
podcat
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>>144692289
Explain to me why I want to have my commanders out of range of the units they are commanding. Come up with a valid reason and ill admit it isn't tedious.

Otherwise your autism must be off the charts if you think this isn't retarded.
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Beautiful

The lack of pops is still a major problem , most armies late game are only around 15,000. I'm not sure if there is a way to fix this though. even with pop growth decisions the entire world is deserted.
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>>144692741
Podcat is based
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>>144692656
Well seeing as you're the one automating your troops the first change you get in hoi4 then it was probably you who automated theatres
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>>144692548
For real, the province density isn't THAT HIGH that you can't just control all your units manually
Also I wish there was a menu where you could see all the combats going on currently or something, it's super easy to lose track of front progress since there are no popups or anything about attacks
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>>144692765
What exactly are you making?
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>>144692656
I did, and manually controlled special units like heavy armour, was the best way
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>>144692696

It's really annoying too because if you're waiting for boat tech to come through there's sweet fuck all you can build other than convoys
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>>144692656
anyone who didnt want to manage a large as fuck front

fuck I remember how shitty I was playing clean up with a large front was in HOI3
>>144691673
>tfw forgot the supply system even existed
bravo paracucks for removing the best system of hoi3
>tfw theres runaway army building because troops dont have unkeep like they did in hoi3
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LADS WHAT DO I LOOK UP FOR A HOI4 TORRENT
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>>144692278
It's the sensible graduation from "casual with mild autism" to "autist".

The ultimate autism is Gary Grigsby games
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>>144692905
Retard
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I've been playing hoi4 10 hours straight and my arm is starting to hurt
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>>144692894
It's that old zombie mod converted to the latest HPM, I made a few decisions like encouraging pop growth to make the game less of a chore past 1850 but I need something better
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>>144692841
but dat 50% attack bonus for drawing a line bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>144692961
>anyone who didnt want to manage a large as fuck front
Any casual who couldn't manage a front
I never automated any troops in HoI3, easter front or western front
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>>144693051
Please keep working on it, I never got around to playing it and now I want to
release when
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>>144692656
Plebs
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>>144692656
based podcat did
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>>144693163
There's actually the zombie mod for HPM that HPM fixed a few days ago in his pastebin
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Fuck me convoy raising seems broken as fuck I'm just using France's starting submarines with no extra techs and I'm sinking like 10 axis convoys a day
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>>144692982
virus.exe
>>144693107
then youd be playing at a low speed or youd be playing suboptimally because you couldnt take advantage of weak spots

some of us dont want to spend 10 days to finish a game so I normally had my main battle line automated (unless the front is managable) then the elite and armor I used myself
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>>144693412
Yeah, I played a low speeds
Or rather I paused

> youd be playing suboptimally because you couldnt take advantage of weak spots
Like the AI would

Sorry you have the attention spam of a child
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>>144693412
Playing at speed 3 and pausing a lot you can win the war against Russia in a few hours easily
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fug
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>>144693412
>Watching the AI play video games for you
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How do I use planes?
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Anyone here played as the Duke of Axum and goal was to restore Isreal? Any tips? Super scared of Egypt right now and my sons, none of them as high as stewardship or martial as me so my levies are not going to be as much once I die.
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>>144693564
Cs.rin has a mega link Google it
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>>144693553
Nah you need to play at speed 5 and be done with the game in one hour otherwise the retards won't finish it
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>>144693564
t. pædophile
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>>144693163
Here

https://www.mediafire.com/?6rbe69db69fz3rs

This one is an updated version, it adds new decisions and takes out the meme governments like State of Emergency that break the game
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>>144693687
Go on the air map mode, click on a region and then choose the mission for each air wing
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>>144693498
>>144693553
AI was pretty competent on moving a front forward, I got tired of having to shuffle and click after the initial offensive when the enemy is basically jelly

using manual control when you already have the enemy overrun is just retarded. However using AI control before that point is kinda dumb too. Id manage my front as France until I broke through and had the germans on the run for instance
>>144693578
>implying I enjoy having to shuffle troops around when the war is already won
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>>144693925
Virus do not click
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>>144693742
nice virus
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>>144692309
>>HOI4 Crack (May contain a chinese botnet)
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB
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>send equipment
>send men
>decide to clear barcelona region of red scum
>zoom out and see this
franco for ficks sake
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>start tutorial as Italy
>get raped by ethiopians until I realize im supposed to be building millitary supplies to reinforce
Just like in real life!
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How is this possible, game only came out 11 hours ago
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>>144694118
Reported to the police for the racist flag
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>>144694118
two capitals?
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>>144693940
>AI was pretty competent on moving a front forward,
No, it wasn't. It is absolutely horrendous at making any progress

You could see that when you played a weaker enemy against a stronger enemy, like Italy holding an eastern front where the USSR grinded to a halt the Werhmarcht advance.
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>>144694094
t. cobracrunch
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What's the fucking point of cavalry and/or the military police?
The default cavalry is fucking shit for attacking.
The default military police is fucking shit for military policing.
The default cavalry make better military police than military police.
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Province names FUCKING WHEN
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>>144693932
Thanks
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>>144694296
>playing as a weaker enemy against a stronger one
thats just dumb to use AI control but when you basically have won the war against the enemy why would you capture VP's yourself? Thats where the AI control shined. basically wiped out the USSR army and dont feel like moving your armies to capture VP's? no probs! OOB is a fucking mess after your offensive? AI dont give a fuck
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Wait so you don't actually build units anymore you build equipment?
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>>144692364

>I wanted to try mechanized/blitzkrieg France

This. France was a my favorite cunt in HoI3 aside from Yugoslavia because of the insane shit you could and sometimes had to pull to win on the harder difficulties, yet still maintain some degree of believability.
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>>144694118
You do know that as Germany it is in your best interests to drag this war out for as long as possible as long as Franco wins, right? True for both real life and in game.
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>>144692278
Some people want to be emperors, some want to be generals. I want to be Emperor-General.

Y'know, like Napoleon.
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What's the difference between support artillery and dedicated artillery?
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Am I cheating if I remove mana to edit divisions?
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>>144694634
You build both.
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>there's casual scum in this thread who think that HOI IV is hard.
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>>144694698
Yes but do it anyway
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>>144694634
I'm confused with the same thing, hoi3 was way easier for me.
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>>144694426
Don't know about Hearts of Iron 4 but Cav is the best for upgrading and saving IC.
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>>144694804
Thanks pal
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Is the game easily crackable like the other paradox games?
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>>144694603
So you are saying you used the AI control just because you played against weaker enemies
wow

>why would you capture VP's yourself?
Because changing to AI control completely wrecks the OOB
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>>144694634
and your divisions can consist of different models of weapons
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>>144694795
Post your world conquest

Here's mine
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>Download HOI4 crack
>Monitor starts flickering
>Johan slowly begins to appear from the bottom of the screen
>My volume is suddenly maxed out and a distorted scream begins to play endlessly on loop as Johan's smug face stares at me and slowly bounces of the edges of the screen.

Wahey lads, at least I didn't get the cryptolocker this time..
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>>144694634
You choose what units you want to train and it'll tell you what you need to produce and how much.

It's very clunky compared to HoI3 since you need to manage two separate pages just to shit out units.
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>play Japs as my first nation
>delay declaring war on China because they have like 3 times my number of divisions and I'm trying to get some more factories going
>turns out I just massacre their dudes at like a 10 to 1 rate
>I end up having to basically conquer the entirety of china and go through almost 4 million of their manpower to finally get them to concede
>doesn't have the same event peace that gives you the coastal ports and most of the north like in HoI3 so I just end up annexing basically their entire nation
well I don't know what I expected desu
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The game says I have 20 free factories but these factories are all red and are not actually usable

Could someone explain this shit please
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>>144694795
It would be sort of hard if the AI wasn't pants-on-head retarded to the point where it feels like cheating.

I'm guessing the first thing serious mods will do, aside from removing retardation like Platypus Empire and Ottoman Empire, will increase the difficulty.
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never ever again
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JUST

help pls
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>>144694636
You get it from training, focuses and advisors. Unless blitzkrieg France is something you do in 1936 I find it hard to believe this poses a problem
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>>144695036

>Because changing to AI control completely wrecks the OOB

Tbf it doesn't if you don't let it reorganize your shit (which it never has to to be effective if you built your army at all acceptably.)
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Say what you want about how retarded/completely useless the battleplan system is, and there is a lot to be said about it, but at least the plans look pretty nice. They're like the History Channel documentaries with armies represented by flags that I used to watch for hours.
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>>144695063
where the fuck do you see equipment stats?
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I have no clue what I'm doing desu
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>>144695118
Japan starts with some of the largest divisions in the game (like 14k men per division), better infantry weapons than China and better tech than China. Literally your only problem in taking China should be supply in the Northern regions. So just build mountaineers for north and launch like three simultaneous naval invasions in the south.
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>>144695036
>just because you played against weaker enemies
>implying I played weaker countries
My favorite countries in Hoi3 were China, Sweden, Turkey, and France because of the difficuilty but even with these countries youll enevtually whittle the enemy down. I use it for when its an even match or when I need to hold an offensive line while still moving forward (i.e. China going through manchuria after a failed japanese offensive)
>wrecks the OOB
my OOB is already fucked by the time ive overrun the enemy by that point I cant be arsed to micro an easy win

youd be a fool to ever use it if there's a notable chance youll lose the front
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>>144695156
That's just Johan telling you to buy the game instead of pirating it.
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>Playing Poland
>Join Axis
>Wartime comes, Germany declares war on France
>Goes on Netherlands and Belgium as well
>Instead of going through the low countries they mash troops into the maginot line
>Italy mashes troops into French Alps
>Have to send half my army to keep Italy from capitulating half a year into the war due to Commonwealth naval invasions
>Soviets start making cassus belli on me
>OH BOY
>they invade
>pull back my troops
>push back their invasion with Axis help, even make it as far as Odessa, Kiev, and fucking Leningrad mostly through my own efforts
>Meanwhile Germany and Italy get killed through AI incompetence and a billion beach landings
>I'm the last European Axis member alive as the Allies close in from every direction

that was fun, I do hope that the Germans attacking the maginot line is a one time thing though
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Last I checked, Stellaris was kicked out of this general because people didn't want these generals dominated by that game. How come HOI4 is allowed then?
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i'm torn between getting a refund over steam for $49.99 back
>loved hearts of iron 3 & how it played, though didn't quite like how historically strict things were in vanilla
>always looked forward to hearts of iron 4, now that i have it, love how it gives an option to play an ahistorical route in vanilla, but hates how it plays

>would play more to try to get into it but already at 2 hours for just fucking around getting a fascist france and another session of trying out cheats

should i just get a refund and come back for the summer sales or just try to get myself more into it to maybe like it? i know there's probably some mods out there for hoi3 that'll loosen the historical restrictions, but i'm yet to find them
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>>144695773
Stellaris was kicked out because it's 4x
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>>144695602

Nat China was the most fun cunt in HOI3. Italy was probably my number 2.
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QHALITY
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>>144695852
That doesn't make it not grand strategy
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>>144695773
>How come HOI4 is allowed then?
It's grand strategy and it's biggest newest piece of content we've had in years. Reason Stellaris was kicked out is because it's 4x not because it would "dominate the discussion".

If Paradox announced/released Vicky 3 you'd also expect all the threads all day long to be about it. People wanna play something new, even if it's sort of shit.
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>>144695538
I guess I annexed Bulgaria
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>>144695920
it doesn't.

But its not.
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>>144695920
It does, new fag.

btw the general you are looking for is >>144642052
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PUT IT IN THE FUCKING ARCHIVE ALREADY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>144695984
>>144695992
t. liquor sheiks
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>>144695492
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>>144695275

How easy is it to transition? Not saying a mech France needs to be viable in 1936, but the thing is, in HoI3 you could make divisions however you wanted, then upgrade/attach the right brigades when the time was right.

For example, I did a dank meme composition for early war French armored divisions of HARM, HARM, MOT, and regular ART to counter muh blitzkrieg decision soft attack bonus.

Then when it came time to start the offensive, I just upgraded the art and attached ENG brigades.

It really let you plan ahead and organically evolve your army, can you do the same with the system in HoI4?
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>>144696078
Stop being an entitled little brat and go look for your own pirate shit
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Are there any good mods for this game yet?
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>It's a just spam infantry because it's impossible to incorporate artillery or tank divisions into your first war episode
This is lame
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Some minor fixes for Gypsystan in HoI4:

https://mega.nz/#!oEdinbZD!hVlq72ubeI4_tHABg13aYlN6D8osdktwbXtZ2u_LWzY

>fixed flags
>partial Transnistria fix (a complete fix would require cutting a province in half)
>moved a province from Moldova to Wallachia
>proper 1936 starting leader (didn't touch 1939 yet, nor did I touch portraits)
>changed spelling to Rumania (the common English spelling until the mid-60s)
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>>144696198
Kaiserreich and BLICE have been announced for HoI4. Other than that, you're free to mod your own annoyances out.
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>>144695860
Italy would've been more fun if conveys sinking wern't spammed at you and if Africa wasn't worth trash in HOI3

im so glad they made resources worth more in hoi4
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>>144695118
Are you complaining that the game doesn't spoon feed you your peace deal?
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>>144696154
>It really let you plan ahead and organically evolve your army, can you do the same with the system in HoI4?
No

>>144696198
It isn't a day since it has been released, calm down

>>144696235
What you thought your army learnt anything from the great war?
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I'd honestly want a limited, super in detail and historically accurate game covering the 16th or 17th century, but just a rather limited period therein, like the French Religious Wars or the Thirty Years War.

I want a new grand strat based on Here I Stand or Virgin Queen. That's what I want.
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>>144696284
> BLICE

Source ?
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>>144696287

Having your convoys get sunk was great because you got gobs of naval experience.
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>>144693708
Just assassinate the Caliph as many times as you can and they should explode. That's my usual Byzantine strategy.
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>>144696370
Ironically, ~1550 to 1750 is the only part of the timeline EU4 simulates sort of well, considering it's focus on supremely important rulers and Westphalian concept of nation-states.

Before that you'd want CK and after that you'd want Vicky for real simulation.
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>>144696370
http://www.ageod.com/products/575/details/Thirty.Years'.War
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>>144696198
I have started fixing broken things, meme names, etc

will release in 5ish hours probably
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First world war mod when?
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>>144696140
Yeah but if you mouse over Weapons I or Basic eq it doesn't give any numbers.
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>>144696532
The max I can get the plot power to increase is around 30 or 40. How can I get it higher?
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>tfw no supermegaautistic grognard game ala War in the Pacific about the Civil War
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>>144696603
Please include
>>144696246
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Hey, anybody else getting a black map for HoI 4? As far as I gathered it's a problem with Intel cards, and there is a fix on the paradox forums but I can't see it since I pirated.
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>>144696471
the problem was you'd have endless popups and half your industry dedicated to creating convoys because your DD/CL's wouldnt be able to sink their shit until like 1944, plus youd have phantom fleets sinking your stuff even if you took suez and Gibraltar

But still good for a one off campaign, not fun for multiple breakthroughs like France and China were
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>>144696714
Have you tried purchasing the game?
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>>144696770
Hi Podcat
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>>144696181
t. Wiz
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>>144696714
Tbh that looks better than the shiny neon map it actually uses.
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>>144696649
Ultimate Gettysburg or whatever the fuck it was called was bretty dice IMO.

Af course that's RTS tho.
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>>144696634
dont really get what you mean
there are numbers of weapons the right of their pictures
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>>144696634
Try research screen
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>>144696714

>#BLACKED
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>>144696714
BUY THE GAME GOYIM
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The uk is always the most fun nation in hoi desu

Feel like I very very rarely see anyone else play as them though
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>>144696770
>hekekek you suckaz giving da dues shekels
>lern 2 pirate
^^Whole thread on release.
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Brits sure are stupid, what did they think would happen? Now they are out of supplies and can't move. Fucking wasted my time.
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>>144696858
I mean I just wanna know the stat difference.
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>>144695902
>start game
>von Kluge is a field marshal in 1936
>close game
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Last I checked, Stellaris is more complicated than games that are considered more traditionally 4x.
I would also consider Europa Universalis IV to fulfill the conditions of being a 4x game, but we consider it a Grand Strategy Game.
I think this thread is just full of people who can't enjoy Stellaris for what it is.
Is it disappointing, a little bit.
Is it fun, sometimes.
Does it give me the space Grand Strategy Game I've been looking for for years, yes.
Am I one of those who have been playing it nonstop since release, no because I have plenty of other Paradox games to play.

Also I haven't played HOI4 yet, but I didn't enjoy HOI3 much compared to everything else.
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>>144696845
I like the design it has at night, but the daytime just looks really weird. Like It has two modes. Night, and Blue Night.
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>>144693708
Also why arent my provinces switching to jewdism and are instead becoming heretics?
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>>144696918
I never played them because naval gameplay in previous hoi games was utter trash
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>>144696918
Meh, you do all the work, get bombed, lose at least few hundred thousand men and then USA comes in and takes all the credit and all the rewards for the war leaving you fucked and with your empire collapsing.

Really WW2 is tragedy of the British Empire more than anything else. Especially since in classic Greek tragedies the hero tends to do good shit and try to act well and gets fucked over by it over and over again.
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>>144697073
attilla tw has more complicated diplomacy than stellaris
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>>144696898
Yeah thanks. Retarded it's not in the unit details.
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>>144696624
Already exists for DH and HoI3
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>fuhrer mana is actually a thing
kek
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Why can't I get this
they exist
they own Slovenia
I'm at peace with them
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>>144697147
>letting the USA join your faction as the UK in HOI3
>>144697131
it was actually pretty fun for a one off campaign
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>>144697073
Complexity doesn't define if something is a 4x, being a literal 4x game means it's a 4x game

Eu4 has a non randomised start so it isn't a 4x
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>>144696858
this but can only see it in research apparently.
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>>144697232
based johan our guy
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>>144697151
desu, haven't played Total War since Empire because I discovered EU4.
I'll concede that diplomacy is lacking in Stellaris, I'm sure that they'll improve it and I'll buy the DLC. Still doesn't make the game bad. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll improve diplomacy in free patches
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Where's a good place to stick AAA? Infantry or motorize or what?

Also
>this german music
Danke

My german game so far is much comfier than Shitalians

Have a rare hitler lads
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>>144697323
Exploring past fog of war, don't really know whats over there till you get there. That's exploration whether you like it or not. Especially if centuries have passed by
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>>144697147
If you can't do better than the British did historically you're just bad at the game desu

Japan barely defends the home isles and Italy is incompetent and invading them gives a good jumping off point into Germany
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>>144697448
That Hitler looks like he's the main character in a shonen anime.

Have some German qts in return.
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is there infrastructure deadzones in Hoi4 like there were in Hoi3?

or am I going to fight in the sahara desert?
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>select an army
>divisions not sortable by fields
what the fuck man
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>>144697120
Isn't that normally low religion power (forgot its real name)?

If you want to assassinate them try paying off concubines, they normally have so many that a conspiracy of women can easily destroy a kingdom.
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>>144696327
I was more just curious because I could have sworn I'd seen Germany and Japan get the similar custom peace deals when I'd seen the game in the past.
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>>144697567
Yes you do it's a fucking map of the world, if you don't know your way around a map of the world why are you here

It's exactly the same thing behind the fog of war every time, it's not randomised
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>>144697567
No, 4x exploration literally means exploring a map (usually randomly generated) not just knowing where an enemy unit is retard
By your retarded definition even AoE wold be a 4x
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>>144697567
>don't really know whats over there till you get there
have you looked at a map before?
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>>144697567
You don't know what's in the TI if you're an absolute retard that's never looked at a map before.

Set Map
Set Start
Set everything.

Historical Simulations are not 4x. IF you think so that Total War general and 4x should be combined because, hey, there's a Fog of War in every Total war game and you have to explore to reveal what's underneath, even though you know exactly what the map is going to look like, and what cities are going to be there.
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>>144697120

You need higher moral authority or whatever it's called.
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>>144693051
a couple suggestions if you're still working on it

>pop losses from new infected provinces should by at most 5%, not 20
>they should get to Madagascar via portugal's colonies, not france, and it should only go one way
>no pop penalty for getting reinfected if you've cleaned your country
>spread between countries should be at least a year, not a month, to make more cohesive hordes
>zombie land should last less time if possible
>zombies should have large immigrant push
>zombie modifier should run out after about 20 years to keep provinces that were covered, then suddenly weren't, from just staying there at 0 pops
>countries shouldn't treat zombies like other major revolts in HPM and make countries secede for no reason
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>>144692548
Why did Hitler want to call Berlin "Germaina"?

That would be like the US renaming Washington "Freedomland"
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>>144697780
>>144697738
>>144697726
So the countries that rule over India remain the same until I discover it. Good to know.
Yes I know the geography, but I don't know what kingdoms exist until I get there
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>>144697634
>each and every one of those girls was raped then killed then raped again by some slav(e) subhuman trying to defend the street they grew up on from an invading army of bolshevic swine
>they died, along with the hope of a free Germania, in order to pave the way for degenerates and traitors to take control of Europa

Why live, senpai?
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>>144697952
Vicky 3
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Rather than arguing what makes a 4x game a 4x game, what makes a Grand Strategy Game a Grand Strategy Game and why can't a game be both?
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>>144697952
inb4 someone makes a shitty rape joke.
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>>144697952
what he said >>144698034

And also to keep the hope of unified pure Europe alive
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>>144696770
kill yourself fag
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>>144698034
bahaha good joke

thats a reason to off myself before i have to see that abomination
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>>144697864
I wouldn't be surprised if that does exist.

Why anon, what does Germania mean in your obscure language?
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>>144698062
>why can't a game be both?
They can

Stellaris isn't though
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>>144691673
What the fuck is this supposed to mean?
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Is encryption even worth it?
I doubt the AI even cares and probably cheats.
It's not like the AI is good either, it just gets rolled over.
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>literally parking all of your shit in Egypt
Fucking tactical geniuses
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>>144698132
Oh don't be like that. if it's shit we can shitpost all day how shit it is. And if it is actually somehow not bad then that's literally a game to replace Vicky 2.
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>>144698220
My native language in english
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When I build infantry equipment is it automatically assigned to the infantry?
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Apparently I downloaded the German version because Hitler is shaded out. I said Field Marshal Edition, but it also says no DLC's loaded up. Is this normal? There are DLC's in the DLC folder.
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>>144698365
Yeah. You can change priority in Recruit & Deploy screen.
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>>144698132
There's rumors that are saying that Vicky 3 is a reality
It's going to be handled like the Charlemagne CK2 expansion, change some concepts and add on a load of years.
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>First attempt at Internalist Brazil
>Fight Paraguay without knowing what the fuck I'm doing
>Win
>Second attempt, more focused on stuff that's effective on crossings and more ground support
>Struggle for so long it turns into global war
The fuck
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>>144696770
adelaide?
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>>144698257
What do you not understand
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>>144698308
beating retarded Paradox AI is nothing to brag about
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>>144696284
>Kaiserreich
Source? All I see on their forums is a 'maybe, focus trees could be good'.
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>>144698365
It's automatically assigned to a unit type that needs it. If there are no unit types that can use that equipment that don't have it then it's placed in stockpile which speeds up your future recruitment of units since you don't need to wait for equipment for them to be built.
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>>144698425
>Brazil caused world war
meme game
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>>144698324
all they would have to do to make a good vic 3 would be add regional markets, make the economy work properly, fix piddly shit like industrial score, and expand the military a bit. Instead they will fuck it all up.
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>>144698434
Hi pal : ^ )
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>>144698454
>need 950k manpower in the field
I have 978.5k
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What's a good starting nation to play?
Ive played CK2 and EU4, but HoI4 is my first time with the title

I guess im looking for a more forgiving nation to play. One where i can fuck up a bit to get my bearings
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>>144698612
Recruitment counts as used manpower, but it doesn't count till those troops are "in the field"
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>>144698425
I jsut had this problem as Facist USA. Was able to use Pax Americana to topple plenty of governments over to my faction, invaded a few central American governments,fought and won against UK and Canada. But Mexico took almost 3 years to kill and in the last year they brought in the Allies despite being unaligned. Literally ruined my run.

>>144698652
Neutral USA
Romania
Canada
Brazil
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>>144698406
Someone please answer :(
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>>144698652
You literally can't go wrong the game is so simple.
Pick any nation.
Make an army.
Put army on the border.
Draw an arrow to the other nation's capital.
Declare war.
Click invade button.
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>>144698652
In order of easytude

USA
USSR
UK
Germany
Japan
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>>144698763
Post your successful game as Luxembourg doing this ladm8
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Wait, so I can only edit pre-existing divisions in exchange for army XP?
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>>144698742
You have to use the crack.
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Can someone please explain exactly how HOI4 has been "casualized" in relation to the other games in the series? The user interface is barf, I know, but it's not like they turned it into the grand-strategy equivalent of Sim City or Spore, right?
>>
Hey Guys, I've been checking the forums, (ck2) and I just can't seem to find a good mod for The Conan setting.

Where are these mods? Any that I can rollback the patch on? I'm really in a mood to conquer the world as a stygian.
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>>144695127
That red represents those factories not being fully tooled up yet. They gain efficiency the more they work on whatever it is, in this case those kinds of tanks.
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ah.... relief....
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>>144697825
My Religious Authority authority is 54% Holy war'd the entire region
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>>144698724
Ah, okay.

That makes some sense, I guess. Thanks lad
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>>144698906
You can make a new divisions. The button is literally right there.

>>144698968
Technology/research, ideologies, parties, military, economy have all been simplefied.

New production is actually more complex than HoI3.

Naval and air combat is about the same as HoI3.
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>tfw theres no longer ifrastructure dead zones so your troops fight across the sahara
FUCK
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>>144696568
>coming to steam June 9th

I think I'll get it and post about it here. I hope it's not too politically simplified as to who was in the conflict, but overall it seems like it'll be good enough for such an under represented war in games.
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Rate
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>>144696950
^^Podcat
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Why is Japan so utter shit in this game? I don't think I've ever seen them beat China ever, in my own game and in the streams I've watched.

This game they got stalled in the north and then push back and their southern naval landing got completely rekt. Only their central naval landing is doing somewhat well.
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>>144699170
They take like 80% attrition

There's no reason why troops shouldn't be able to March across the Sahara whilst taking massive losses and casualties
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>>144697689
Already did and only one with 7% said yea, sending my spymaster to spread rumors and chancler to his capital to sow dissent.
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>>144699398
Probably because they got rid of militias for this game so they have actual infantry now
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>>144698465
>brag
wew
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>>144699398
Huh? Have you seen koreanusher's stream, he took out both chinas and then tibet too.
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>want to play as Austria and restore proper borders
>don't want Adolf to invade me before I can

;_;
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>>144699463
but when troops fight they still march through the sahara due to the ebic arrow game
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>>144691874
what manga?
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>>144699691
I was talking about inordinate amount of times AI China wins over AI Japan. Frankly Japan needs a buff and/or China needs a nerf.

Maybe don't let them annex all of their substates as soon as Japan declares on them?
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>>144699763
You're not forced to make shitty battle plans. Nor are you required to activate your shitty plans.
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>>144699757
>vaporized Britain
11/10
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>>144699318
grosskarlingium/10
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>>144699757
How did you do that? Did paintisburg not give you trouble?
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>>144700027
My v2 game was pretty strong this campaign.
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>>144699981
t. arrow pro
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>>144699981
You get penalized for not drawing arrows, though. Your units fight shitter because you didn't draw the battleplan. That's real gameplay incentive to draw the retarded plans.
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>>144699318
>>144700048
>no Barcelona

shit desu
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>>144694640
why?
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>>144700219
Africa starts at the Pyrenees

Why would you want a land connection to Africa
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I got the protect against communism event like four god damn times, support was at 100%. Why do I have to fight a fucking civil war? Is there no reason to pick the popular revolution over military coup? Because it seems like whether you get a civil war or not is entirely dependent on which of those two choices you pick.
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>>144700208
Which part of you don't need to activate plan don't you understand? If you can't draw arrows, control manually.

Although you at least need to designate the front properly.
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>>144697027
Why did you bully based Franco anon?
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>>144700256
You get more army experience. I learned that the hard way when I sent in two panzer divisions and took Barcelona and Valencia by myself and the war ended and I was left with like 11 fucking soldier mana.
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Just finished my first multiplayer game, lasted for 10 hours and Axis won, also invaded the US, but not depicted on the screenshot, screenshot is just the victory against the Bolsheviks.
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>>144700486
Republicans won.
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Lads, I'M 100% serious when I say that HOI4 is more complicated than HOI3. The AI in both is fucking horrible so you win by default, but the production system in HOI4 is so terribly unintuitive that it ruined my armies a few times.
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>>144700483
>you don't need to draw the plan
to
>you don't need to activate the battleplan

Nice goalpost moving faggot. You're still forced to use and then ignore a retarded system.
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pls tell me no one has done this yet
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>>144700736
Then you did the right thing anon. I'm sorry I doubted you.
>>
How do I gain control of the rest of a duchy title if my liege, the king, controls the rest of the provinces. He owns one of them and has vassals serving him in the other two yet I hold the title of the duchy and have no vassals. How do I get the rest of the counties?
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>avoided war with china/uk as japan
>invaded that gook clique
>took me 4 years

lads...
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>>144700808
Why are those 44 boats inland?
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I know you all are busy discussing Radical Yugoslavia's® Pro Painter™2016, but I'm starting a run as the Haizei, a Chinese pirate kingdom.

The Haizei exist to represent the forces behind the pirate raids that devesated the chinese coast. The Wokou also have been added to represent the Japanese pirates who added to the Ming and Korean suffering.

House rules:
No Religious conversion
No conquest of provinces on the mainland
Pirate truce: no attacking or raiding the Wokou unless they declare war first.

Goals for this run:
Fuck over the mainlanders
Have fun with privateering/raiding
Profit
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>>144700748
Might want to learn reading. Because I didn't say that. I said you had a choice between drawing decent plans or not activating shitty ones
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>>144700983
they are just havin a rest lad :)))
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>>144700983
can't you see the icon? they're being carried by plane
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>>144701101
>eu4
stopped reading there
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Is it possible to make more convoys for trade? Help
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So if you draw the battle plan and don't execute it you till get the 50% bonus or no?
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>>144695980
annex turkey next
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>>144700820
Is there a decision in which you could petition your king to transfer his (your de jure vassals) to you?(making them your de facto vassals as well)
For the one he owns, no idea.
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Does HoI4 have strategic resources?
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>China doesn't have a unique National Focus tree
This is going to be DLC isn't it?
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>>144701104
>muh precious arrows
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>>144701205
You can build more convoys yes.
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>>144701607
Looks like it's you who is moving goal posts.
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>>144701597
Of course. Everything that can be sold will be sold. I wouldn't mind if it was like EU4 where free patches introduces national ideas and traditions to minor nations but selling national focus trees makes me glad that I'm pirating it.
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>>144701597
Quick, someone make a supremely detailed focus tree for China so that the inevitable China DLC looks like shit.
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>>144701101
If this goes over well I'll change my mind on EUIV

Also I notice how you said nothing about ever possibly colonizing the new world.
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Finland called me in to this retarded war
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>>144701607
t. steamgroup
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>>144701749
Not the same guy, mate. More than one person dislikes meme arrows here,.
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>40k peak players

ouch
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>>144701580
Nope.
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>>144701749
Thanks, I used some arrows to do it automatically for me.
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>>144701932
Then don't reply to me. I don't care what you like or don't like.
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>>144701902
Couldn't find this on the Google play store can you link me it so I can play it on my tablet later?
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>fake german reichskriegsflagge because m-muh evil swastikas

Into the trash it goes

Fucking historical revisionist pieces of shit
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>>144702195
well arrowed, my friend
>>
Am I the only one who has absolutely no idea what's going on at my front, the interface is fucking horrible and the 3d graphics don't help.

t. HOI 3 semipro
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>>144702195
>still cares enough to comment
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>>144702072
>paying for trash
this aint sweden
>>
But why is there no minimap tho?
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>>144702323
yes

>>144702401
can't fit it on tablets so good
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>>144702323
No, since the icons arnt counters, but instead just squares that float around, they are completely useless at assessing unit location
>>
Is there any actual reason to ally Japan as Germany, thinking realistically about it? Literally all Japan is going to do is maybe win maybe lose in China, which is completely irrelevant to the greater war effort and fucks you over by getting in you in war against the US too early which can potentially lose you the war.

Really, even China, if it beats Japan, is better ally. Or just having not having anyone besides Italy and all the fascist puppets in Europe is fine too. At least that delays the war against the US substantially.
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>>144702323
What's wrong anon, aren't the green/red orbs that come and go with no notification informative enough? Don't you find it helpful that unit counters all get stacked together when you zoom out so that you have no idea WHERE your troops actually are?
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>>144702323
This the production stuff is way tougher than in hoi3
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What are the paradrones saying about HoI4? Shilling or waking up?
>>
why does this game have a weird blue hue
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>>144702209
Cry more faggot

>Muh swastika is gone?! How can I blay as gross geraniums now DX?!
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>>144702209
Unfortunately, Europe is so cucked that people can get arrested for even mentioning the N*zis. How they can still be so booty blasted after seventy years is beyond me however.
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>>144702668
worse than space game to be honest.
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>>144702507
USA will get in the war either way because the germans were killing 6 hundred million innocent people...
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>>144701169
>>144701825
I'd do it in EU3, but coastal raids and pirates aren't modeled well in that game.

The initial raids strike the Chinese coast with ferocity. The Haizei loot fishing villages and raid warehouses along the Southern Chinese coast, adding to their ranks by means of enslavement and recruiting the various thugs and ne'er do wells.
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>>144702463
woops i meant yeah, the interface is shit

>>144702507
No
>not invading US first
kek

>>144702668
shilling on paradoxplaza as usual
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>>144691673
Can someone please tell me what's going on here? Why isn't this working?
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>>144702072
Peaks for all time (usually nowhere near release)
CK2: 12k
VIC2: 1.6k
EU4: 24k
Hoi3: 1.5k

Aside from Stellaris, I'd say Hoi4 compares pretty well.
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Why can't I build infrastructure in my puppet Manchuko? Now all my troops are starving..how am I going to beat China?
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>>144702568
fuck if they even moved to the same state level when you zoom out I could accept it.
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>>144702782
they're still training probably

divisions need to be physically on the map
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>>144702568
Don't forget that there aren't any battle summaries, this shit is less accessible than HOI3 desu if you don't just press activate and lean back.
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>>144702782
Because the game is a piece of shit

>>144702739
This looks fun as fuck anon, running any mods?
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>>144702698
Why even have it set in a historical context in the first place when you change shit just so you can sell it to edgy 15yo that get triggered by reality/history

Fucking parashill, might as well play total war then
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>>144702782

Need more divisions deployed
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>>144702742
>shilling
Holy shit, really? This is the worst paradox release since EU4 and yet those plants are still chugging it?
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>>144702863
>The holocaust was the worst atrocity in all of human history

hahahaha go watch schindler's list some more.
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>>144702860
Single Japanese division is like 14k men with better guns than China. Just invade with mountain troops.
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>>144702863
>The holocaust was the worst atrocity in all of human history and white people will NEVER be able to pay for it completely.
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>>144702967
People complain literally every single Paradox release that the game is dumbed down and simpler. You know how everyone here is talking about how good Hoi3 was now? Guess what people bitched about on release. They said it was too dumbed down.
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>>144703008
i...

i just cannot...

you need to go back to /pol/
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>>144702863
Reminder that war crimes only matter if you lose.
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>>144701673

How? I have been messing with everything but i don't find the option.
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>>144702884
>>144702896
Ah that was it, thanks guys
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>>144702895
Go play total war then if you get this triggered over a flag you can change in seconds cry baby
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>HoI gets released
>threads turn into holocaust shitflinging
can you please keep it to /v/?
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>>144703098
HoI3 is shit. It's just le war in the east spin off. It didn't have any of the cool political shit DH did.
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>>144703008
>>144703090
>>144703126
>responding
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>>144702863
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>>144703123
/gsg/ is not your personal safespace
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>>144702863
t. falseflag
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>>144703186
hello friend!

welcome to /gsg/!

>HOI4 gets released
>fucking redditors flood into /gsg/ and think it wasn't always shit
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>hunt Eternal Anglo forces in Spain
>encircle one of their doomstacks and kill them
>game crashes at new years autosave
Fucking kikes.
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>>144703271
>denying the holocaust is shit
hello friend!

welcome to /gsg/!
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>>144702863
I never denied the holocaust or any other atrocity committed by Germany in WW2. Europeans treat the Nazis like they're the fucking boogeyman and it's ridiculous. Nobody is going to go beat up a Jewish person because of a swastika in a videogame.
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Greetings, I work Customer Service for Paradox, I will be monitoring this thread as much as possible.
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>>144703098
>Guess what people bitched about on release. They said it was too dumbed down.
>HoI3
It's been considered harder than its predecessor for years nigger
Literally the most common advice for people who had a hard time with HoI3 was "try DH it's easier to get into"
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>>144703126
Can you imagine the world if nazis won?

>within few generations the non-German population of Eastern Europe and Russia is about 20 to 30 million enslaved people categorized as a slave race
>Hitler is literally greater than Jesus
>Germany has uninterrupted control over all of Europe, Russia, Central Asia, Middle East, Iran and North Africa
>Eastern Europe is fully Germanized with no one even remembering a time when it wasn't so
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>>144703253
>implying it's not a jew false flagging as a /pol/tard false flagging
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>>144703123

Are you saying the Holocaust is a joke?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlbLgl5WDs
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>>144703391
nice dreams
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China just became my puppet, what do I do now?
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>>144702886
Only modification is the addition of a new religion, as due to hardcoded limitations Confucian pirates cannot raid Confucian provinces.

The Haizei kingdom could not be described as religious, at least in the traditional sense. Traditional confucianism stressed obligations to family and deference to authority, values which were almost entirely absent among the violent and crude pirates.

Despite their savage ways, some elements of the confucian culture did survive, if only in the cultural practices and muttered prayers to sea spirits before they cast off from shore.
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>>144703382
t. Christian Arvidsson
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>>144702863
I'm half-Jewish, why do non-Jews get so upset on behalf of Jews? Especially over something that didn't even happen the way it's told?
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Why are you dense leftshits arguing about the holohoax.

It's not even in the game. Either talk about HoI or fuck back off to r/jidf. Nobody gives a shit.
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Guess it's time to go to bed
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>>144703271
the fuck are you talking about?
The thread was about liquorlads recently.
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>>144703538
uninstall.exe
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Here's the new "culturally enriched" Syria
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>>144703389
Fucking hell hes on about hoi3 on release day you absolute new cunt

Nobody was on about "try dh it's easier" on hoi3 release day because hoi3 came out 2 years earlier than dh

Jesus christ
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>>144703391
>erasing history
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>>144703569
Could you upload that? I'd like to play it sometime too.
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>>144703584
You can't be half jewish.

If your mother is a goy you are a goy, if your mother is a jew you are a jew.
t. jew expert
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>>144703598
rip gpu, your graphics card is dead man.
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>>144703656
How about you do that to your life?
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>>144703598
Johan did this
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>>144703598
this is your gsg without liquor
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>>144699774
Something by urusawa obv
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>>144703668
I know you're memeing, but the fact that people honestly believe that shit astounds me. Do they not realise that they are saying the same shit as the Nazis?
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>>144703417
>the real holocaust is all these slaves and shit
As the torah says.
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The offending posts have been removed.

Please keep discussion on-topic and friendly, and about HOI4 :)
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>>144703758
bretty gud
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!CAUTION!

Paradox has paid shills in these threads. Their main tactic right now is to present HoI4 as 'cool' and 'improved' while displaying older Hearts of Iron games such as HoI3 and DH as 'archaic' and 'shitty'.

Basically, they're shitting on the old and trying to push the new so that it becomes the mainstay in /gsg/. This is what happened with EU3 being tossed to the side and EU4 being the new 'go-to' EU game despite it's inherent inferiority to it's predecessor.

Keep true to the tradition games. EU2/EU3, Ricky/Vicky2, DH/HoI3, CK2 pre-Horselords, and Knights of Honor.

!CAUTION!
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>>144703598
>>144703842
This is what happens if you pirate hoi4
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>>144703598
rip in pepperonis
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I can do this right?
I'm only at extensive conscription
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>>144703598
I see Shaposhnikov.
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>>144703776
Are you implying DH was somehow simpler than HoI2?
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>>144703824
So I'm Jewish, it doesn't really matter to me considering that the Jewish side of my family is from Silesia and has been German for hundreds of years. They go to church and are Christians with German names. They were normal fucking Germans during NS times as well.
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>>144703758
And here's the south, featuring more orthodox and Druze
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>>144703992
get the fuck out steam group shitposter

HOI4 is a BASED as FUCK game and is 6000000x better than hoi3 and dh
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>>144703992
I can absolutely guarantee you don't play Ricky or eu2

Go on, post one of your campaigns
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>>144691673
US Interference in Latin America is basically no fun-the game
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>>144703992
Have you ever seen someone post about EU2? Or Victoria 1? If you want more of them in the thread, post it yourself.
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>>144704114
I'm implying you weren't around when hoi3 come out and are pretending you were
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>>144704128
You realize you can get Israeli citizenship by just sending in some paperwork and proving you're a jew right?

Do it anon, based bibi is calling.
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>>144703992
DELETE THIS
>>144691673
Do any of you fellow fourchanners happen to know where I might be able to find an illegal download for HoI4?
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>>144704114
>release
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>>144704308
pottery
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>>144704351
>for years
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>>144704308
>that face
пpocтo
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>>144704338
Have you never pirated a game before? Jesus christ.
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>>144704332
No, thanks. Maybe /pol/ friends and some Germans won't consider me to be German because I'm Jewish but there is nothing I love more than this place. I won't leave, no way.
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>>144704449
russkie detected
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>there are people in this thread who unironically believe vic 1 isn't superior to vic 2
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I'm a pretty big WW2 history buff who has played strategy games before (Civ, Total War, Commnd and Conquer) but not really any Paradox/Grand strategy stuff, would HOI4 be a bad start?
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>mfw EvW will be released as dlc for HoI 4

>mfw the production system in HoI 4 essentially confirms that Vicky 3 is next on the list

>mfw there's only 3 kinds of factories - (military, raw materials, and consumer goods)

>mfw it will have ebin meme DLCs with westernized Africa and primitive Europe

>mfw have to pay extra for Fascist governments

>pls buy EU IV-Vicky 3-HoI IV save exporter
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>>144704517
You don't even have to leave, you just send in papers and they make you a passport.

You get huge benefits from being a jew, not the least of which is that the government will suck your dick for being jewish.
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>>144704685
>implying there won't be only 1 kind of factory - (liquor)
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Thoughts?
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How come my armies won't move /gsg/?
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>>144704492
I have never pirated a videogame before, as that crime is worse than pedophilia. However I spent all my money on Stellaris dlc (I should have preordered when I had the chance), and I can't bear to miss out on one minute of this masterpiece of a game.
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>>144704680
>likes history
>wants to play an ahistorical meme game
J
U
S
T
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Wow, that 2 year delay really shows through in all the hard work and polish they put into the game!
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>>144704680
no
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>>144704767
Being less railroaded is one of the only things hoi4 actually has going for it

There's a reason why hpp was a very popular mod
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>>144704767
You can only invade France so many times as Germany before the game gets boring as fuck.

HOI either needs minor nations to be playable and interesting or for the actions of major nations to be much more flexible.
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so is HOIIV supposed to spend forever locked on Loading Graphics

it's been sitting here for 10 fucking minutes and I don't know if it's broken or it just takes a really long time
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>>144704745
Alright I have been putting this off for the entire time you've been doing this, over a month now, atleast. I am really fucking annoyed by this meme. Victoria 2 is a great game, by far the greatest grand strategy of all time, in no other game can you manage an economy, your pops, your diplomacy, your taxes, your army and your sphere of influence at the same time. Victoria 2 takes every element of every game and makes it great. Your pathetic fucking mana/dynasty/OoB/insert single issue game simply can't compete. I've tried playing them, believe me. They are pathetic. You play them and you only have to manage one, maybe, two things. Hah, what is this mess? It's a botched job. A complete write off. And sure, if you like that sort of purile simplistic shit then more power too you, it's not my job to kick down your sandcastle. But why must I spend my time arguing this with you? Just because Victoria 2 is too complex for you doesn't mean it is for everyone. And when challenged you crawl back into your same abhorrent memery, because that's all this is, you don't have the slightest clue what you're saying or who you're messing with, because if you did you'd stop. Go back to playing your blob simulator, little man, because this general belongs to us. The true strategy gamers. Not your lame, disgusting casual shit. And you know the worst part? We can't even meme back. Hell, I'm sure there's some really overpowered trade good in EU4, but we can't say "hurr durr naval supplies" or whatever because the simple fact is nobody has played your favoured game since EU3, back before they dumbed it down for people like you. So well done, my friend, you made an intellectual victoria 2 fan MAD. You've achieved your greatest feat since you formed grossulmiums, mark this on your wall as a victory for your abysmal existence because I can tell you now, kiddo, this is your peak.
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>>144697825
>>144699014
Shit I think I found out why. Those holdings dont have any temples I am an idiot.
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>>144704680
Not really. Trying to play Hoi3/DH would probably push your shit in big time, Hoi4 is pretty easy.
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>>144704918
tcobra
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>>144704875
I know almost nothing about which games you guys consider meme/shit/good

Just looking for something to play on my shit laptop until I can put together a new PC

WW2 is more interesting to me than most other time periods
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>>144704907

Yes you are never supposed to play the game

Come on dude don't be a fucking idiot
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>>144704852
You have to click the button to activate the plan, stupid!
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>>144704918
based Cobra
>>144705001
I still believe you're a shitposter but if you're not play HOI3 or DH, they're in the mega in the OP
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>>144704901
t. /u/DoctorCarwash
>>144704906
t. /u/winomak3r
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>>144705015
well what the fuck do I do about it then faggot

why is it taking so long
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>>144704308
Looks like Obama.

He despises your pirating ways anon.

He disapproves.
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Fucks sake
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>delete a random file
>game looks much better already
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>>144704906
There is a fine line between flexible actions for major powers and HITLER DECIDED GERMANY NEEDS TO BE COMMUNIST IN 1936
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>>144705001
Play HoI3 or DH like the other anon said.

HoI4 is garbage.
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>>144705082
Nah not shitposting, I was just worried that HOI3 would be pretty hard to get into compared to 4
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>>144704907
I assume you are using the 3dm version? If then delete the steam_api.dll and rename the other steam_api to steam_api.dll
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>>144703802
I manually added the religion, I'll rig up a minimod for it in a bit

"Princess" Cheng, formerly a prostitute, and now the terror of South China Sea, displayed considerable diplomatic prowess during her tumultuous reign.
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>>144705168
rippu gpu
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>Casual
Hearts of Iron 4
Europa Universalis 4

>The Sims: Medieval
Crusader Kings 2

>bretty gud
Hearts of Iron 3
Victoria 2
Darkest Hour
Europa Universalis: Rome + Wiz mod

>Patrician
Europa Universalis 3 + D&T
Victoria 2 + HPM
Hearts of Iron 2 + TRP
For the Glory
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>>144705168
same

CODEX right?
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>>144705228
Yeah, that seems to do it.
Thanks
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>>144705191
vote LEAVE
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>>144705223
So you don't actually care about history at all and just want a sandbox meme game or do you want a WWII game that's semi-historical?

If you want to conquer Japan as Bhutan download HOI4.
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>>144705168
Wow, the map almost looks good without a billion filters thrown on top of it by someone with no graphic design experience
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>>144705264
>ricky isn't on the list
sup reddit
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>>144705191
>delete all terrain textures
>leave neon color scheme
>looks better
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>>144705264
>Hearts of Iron 2 + TRP
you mean DH and World In Flames
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>>144705191
well what file?
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>>144705335
I care about history, my only concern was that HOI3 would be a bad start for grand strategy since I've heard it was pretty autistic
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>>144705264
>the EU3 was good meme
No, even with mods that game is garbage.
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>>144705264
>>Patrician
>Europa Universalis 3 + D&T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1W6bn9FtI
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When can I make a custom Faction as a minor? Is it tied to World Tension?
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>>144705264
This
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I think it's time to activate my keylogger that I bundled with the HOI4 torrent and see if I can find any tasty info

brb bros
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CAN'T NAVAL INVADE ESTONIA BECAUSE IT SAYS DIVISION ARE NOT IN PLACE I AM GETTING PISSED BECAUSE I KEEP TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW TO NAVAL INVADE ESTIONIA IN THE PLAN IT SAYS, SOME DIVISIONS ASSIGNED HAVE NOT REACHED POSITION YET AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO TO FIX IT.
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>>144705210
Really I think most of what was needed for HOI 3 flexibility was just the ability for factions to peace out of a stalemated, or static war. If they just included a randomized faction leaning and that it would make the game 10x more interesting.
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>>144705264
Didn't TRP move on to Darkest Hour though.
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>>144704731
I don't really have an interest in profiting from my Jewish genes.
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http://poal.me/89h98t
http://poal.me/89h98t
http://poal.me/89h98t

CRITICAL POLL
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>>144705443
If that's a real concern then yeah just play hoi4.
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>>144697952
>
Are you serious?
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>>144705513
Doing God's work Commodore Pepe.

These Pirates must be hanged, I say!
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>Garbage tier
EU4
CK2
Vic 2 + Alexmod
HOI2
Memest Hour
>Meh Tier
EU3
Vic 2
>Not Bad tier
HOI3 + HPP
>God Tier
Ricky + Victoria Improvements Project
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Reminder that all games made by paradox are fundamentally flawed and the best grand strat is war in the east

Inb4 paradrones and parashills
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Will /r/paradoxplaza turn on hoi4?
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>>144705608
it doesn't matter if you want to, you don't choose to benefit from nepotism, it chooses you

t. nepotist benefitiary from shithole
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>>144705461
still better than eu4
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>>144705834
>DH
>garbage

tell me your thought process behind this
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>>144705921
Being better than a pile of dogshit does not make a game patrician.
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>>144705967
t. doomstack pro
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>>144705967
>ew old map xDxD
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>>144705967
NEVER EVER
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>>144705967
>http://poal.me/89h98t
If you think it's so good, why don't you post a screenshot of one of your games?
Oh that's right, you don't actually play it.
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why the FUCK can't it just show where the divisions are when you zoom out?
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>>144702782
I didn't have 550k in the field until i had 1 mill army total
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>>144706140
>he says while based ricky is at the top of the list
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>>144706127
>combatants with the least amount of troops ALWAYS win
Great fucking meme, me lad. Except the USSR literally doomstacked Germaniums in real life, and won.
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I am honestly convinced there are paid DH shills on /gsg/ ready to defend it anytime it's mentioned in passing
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>>144706226
Meant for >>144705967
>>
>tfw the only time I play DH I use Fallout meme mod and nobody wants me to post it
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>>144706271
>le soviets had no strategy or tactics maymay
fucking epic
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>>144706235
that wouldn't look good on my tablet
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>>144705240
plug the below into translate
海盗向明朝皇帝!

O帝国---明魔鬼诅咒魔鬼的亲友,秘书恶魔自己。什么样的魔骑士的你,不能杀死你的裸体屁股刺猬?魔鬼排泄,和你的军队吃。你不会,你是王八蛋,使自由儿子科目;我们已经不用担心你的军队,从陆路及海路我们将与你战斗,他妈的你的母亲。

你倭寇斯卡利恩,柬埔寨车匠,该死的啤酒,上海的山羊笨蛋,大,小越南猪倌,蒙古猪,日本小偷,西藏的娈童,一个刽子手,和世界上所有的傻瓜和黑社会,白痴神前,孙子蛇,而在我们的家伙克里克。猪的口鼻部,马的屁股,屠宰场的牛,拧自己的母亲!

因此,海盗宣布,你下层的人。你甚至不会被赶了满清的猪。现在,我们将得出结论,因为我们不知道日期,并没有自己的日历;月球在天空中,用烈酒的一年,这一天是一样的在这里,因为它是在那里;这个亲吻我们的屁股!
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>>144706254
>vicky before it got all COMMERCIAL xDxD
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>>144706285
t. Johan
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>>144703598
>>144705168
That's what you get for torrenting, goy
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>>144706427
>plug the below into translate
"no"
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>>144705335
Hoi3 isn't semi historical, it's railroaded. If you behave ahistorically as the player, the railroading makes everything not only ahistorical but also completely implausible.
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>>144706429
>omg what is this complicated micromanagment shit just let the computer do it for me xDxD!!
literally the cancer killing /gsg/
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>>144706397
>>le soviets had strategy or tactics maymay
The soviet high command literally just drew a line to berlin.
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How do you change your political party

Ministers?
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>>144706593
you need to spend mana to change it

charge your mana and cast change government spell
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>>144706563
>go be aristocrat now
>but i peasant
>no
>okay
>you be peasant now
>but i aristocrat
>no more
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>>144706565
i know it's epin bait but some people who actually believe this should read some books on soviet deep battle
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>>144705335
Yes because you can't do stupid meme shit in joi3 can you?

Yep nobody has ever conquered the world as albania or anything
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>>144706538
https://translate.google.com/?text=undefined&hl=en&langpair=auto%7Czh-CN&tbb=1&ie=undefined#en/zh-CN/Pirates%20to%20the%20Ming%20Emperor!%0A%0AO%20emporer%2C%20Ming%20devil%20and%20damned%20devil's%20kith%20and%20kin%2C%20secretary%20to%20the%20demons%20himself.%20What%20the%20devil%20kind%20of%20knight%20are%20you%2C%20that%20can't%20slay%20a%20hedgehog%20with%20your%20naked%20arse%3F%20The%20devil%20excretes%2C%20and%20your%20army%20eats.%20You%20will%20not%2C%20you%20son%20of%20a%20bitch%2C%20make%20subjects%20of%20free%20sons%3B%20we've%20no%20fear%20of%20your%20army%2C%20by%20land%20and%20by%20sea%20we%20will%20battle%20with%20thee%2C%20fuck%20your%20mother.%0A%0AYou%20Wokou%20scullion%2C%20cambodian%20wheelwright%2C%20brewer%20of%20shit%2C%20goat-fucker%20of%20shanghai%2C%20swineherd%20of%20Greater%20and%20Lesser%20Vietnam%2C%20pig%20of%20mongolia%2C%20japanese%20thief%2C%20catamite%20of%20tibet%2C%20hangman%20of%20a%2C%20and%20fool%20of%20all%20the%20world%20and%20underworld%2C%20an%20idiot%20before%20the%20Gods%2C%20grandson%20of%20the%20Serpent%2C%20and%20the%20crick%20in%20our%20dick.%20Pig's%20snout%2C%20mare's%20arse%2C%20slaughterhouse%20cow%2C%20screw%20your%20own%20mother!%0A%0ASo%20the%20pirates%20declare%2C%20you%20lowlife.%20You%20won't%20even%20be%20herding%20pigs%20for%20the%20manchu.%20Now%20we'll%20conclude%2C%20for%20we%20don't%20know%20the%20date%20and%20don't%20own%20a%20calendar%3B%20the%20moon's%20in%20the%20sky%2C%20the%20year%20with%20the%20sprits%2C%20the%20day's%20the%20same%20over%20here%20as%20it%20is%20over%20there%3B%20for%20this%20kiss%20our%20arse!
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>Play as Yermany
>beat poland (lateish)
>invade lowlands and there are fucking SOVIET TROOPS fighting with them
>Eventually take Paris
>Italy gets 1/3rd of France
I don't even want to play anymore. Fuck this piece of shit game. Glad I pirated though.
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>>144706427
Speak English you fucking Moonman.
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The UNIVERSAL RULE to ALL GS GAMES

>The more provinces, the better
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>>144706716
>go forward is a fucking strategy
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>>144706285
DH is a really good game, anon.
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>>144706706
>promoting a peasant to an aristocrat
confirmed for never playing ricky
fuck off you reddit migrant
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>>144706790
This says more about you than the game

Maybe farmville or angry birds will be more to your tastes?
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>>144706776
>zoy.org

Nice try kid
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>>144706831
So this is why those reddit faggots liked that voltaire meme mod so much.
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>>144706790
>>Italy gets 1/3rd of France

So is there an event that fixes up the borders or do you just full annex France and whatever bits Italy grabbed they get to keep?

Are there any surrender events at all?
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>>144707004
>Are there any surrender events at all?
no
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>>144706969
>wanting more province equals reddit

??? ???
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>>144706856
what the fuck is this language
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>>144707004
>So is there an event that fixes up the borders
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>>144707121
Vietnamese you uncultured oaf
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>>144707121
Vietnamese
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>>144707121
yiddish

official language of the yerman people
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>>144707081
No, I'm just saying that voltaire meme mod was popular there.
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>>144707081
This Is the optimal amount of provinces according to /gsg/eddit
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lads this is 12 hours of gameplay straight
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>>144707204
>>144707197
I knew it was some SEA language, but why is it on a map of the schlieffen plan?
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>>144707317
>all those fucking buttons
Why is it so cluttered?
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>>144707054
>>144707146

God damn it. I blew $90 on this to support Paradox because they're the only ones making these games. When will I learn?

Can you even release puppet states? What happens when Germany defeats the USSR? Do they just fucking full annex them all the way to the Pacific or what?
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>>144707004
Events are railroading :^)
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>>144707425
>$90
it was 25% off, how did you now know?
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>>144707283
isn't that just a map of the Hearts of Iron II Armageddon scenario
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>>144707425
>Do they just fucking full annex them all the way to the Pacific or what?
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>>144707425
Full annex, no events, no flavor, no Reichskommissariats.

Nothing.

I know, I'm disappointed too. Back to HoI3 for me.
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Turns out the port is in Hanover, not Hamburg like I had thought.
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>>144707283
is this the HoI2 map
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>>144707407
you get used to it
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>>144707607
Wouldn't RKs be too offensive for paradox to include? Holohoax and shit?
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>>144707317
>12 hours
>hasn't won
what?
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>>144707743
I don't see how administration districts have anything to do with that.

If they did lots of HoI3 mods wouldn't be allowed.

Or maybe they don't even know because they've never played HoI3
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>>144705264
>no Sengoku
hello funnyjunk
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>>144707798
I played really slowly at the start
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>>144707425
>$90
HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOUR MORON

HAHAHHAH HOLY FUCK
Also
>Facist Hungary goes Cominterm
I think I'm done for the night guys. I'm going to have another beer then play Sakura Dungeon and jack off because this game is garbage.
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>>144707876
wtf is sengoku?
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>>144691673
in the new hearts of iron, what is there to stop the Soviets from building up a massive land force and throwing it at all of the Asian minors?
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>>144706836
t. hans
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Okay so you can actually set it so the icons never group up in defines:
MAP_ICONS_GROUP_CAM_DISTANCE = 9000, -- camera distance at which the icons begin to group up
MAP_ICONS_STATE_GROUP_CAM_DISTANCE = 9000, -- Camera distance at which the icons begin to group up on state level
MAP_ICONS_STRATEGIC_GROUP_CAM_DISTANCE = 9000, -- second camera distance at which the icons begin to group up
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>>144707851
The RKs, atleast in the east, were purely designed for "germanisation".
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>>144707951
t. fred durst
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>>144707951
CK2 Alpha
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>>144707605
>>144707607

I'm really disappointed - they need to at least give us the basic events that even Darkest Hour had that cleaned up borders, established the RKs, etc. There is no context, no sense of definition of the goals of your country. This ruins it for me, especially for Germany who is the star of the show.

>>144707743
They're in Darkest Hour.
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>>144707876
Funnyjunk used to be good
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What do you all think of this lad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Sv1aEaD2I
He plays nothing but meme mods like PDM and Kaiserreich Vic 2.
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>>144707973
>posts pic proving the soviets had deep meaningfull strategies
>it is literally just all infantry all going forward
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>>144708076
t, redditor
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>>144708014
If you're going to justify it by that then we should get rid of Germany invading any country because it was for Lebensraum.

Also the Sino-Japanese war.

>also they allow the Rape of Nanjing in mods but not the holocaust.
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>>144708004
very good

now you must figure out how to mod the unit cards to show actual NATO cards
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>>144707607
You don't need to full annex your victims
I mean come on you can't actually be this retarded,.
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>>144708004
>already looks 6,000,000× better
Why do paradox insist on putting needless graphical shit in their post EU4 games?
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>>144708178
you should read in pursuit of deep battle lad
1 picture can't do it justice
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>>144708179
but seriously no memeing before /pol/ took it over funnyjunk was good
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>>144708052
It will be playable after a dozen DLC, just like EU4. Up until then you're a paying beta tester.
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>>144708334
>Why do paradox insist on putting needless graphical shit in their post EU4 games?

Makes me think of this post I saw on the HOI 4 board.
I'm a old boy (over 40),

I love static boring strategics games,
I set nato symbols, but in close zoom mode there soldiers moving, firing, running ... as in stupid arcade game for kids ...

(yes my first impression is dislike this game but it's too much soon to say, I want play about 100 hs after 3-4 patches, I'm a superveteran of HOI, HOI2, HOI 3 etc with thousand hours of play)

please, there is a way to see on the monitor ONLY static nato symbols ?

... after 11 hours of play I have headache to see so much moviment ...
(Why to develope so many graphics effects in a strategic wargame ?)
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>>144708248
Are you retarded? I loaded up this piece of shit just to show you.

The NF tree literately railroads you into a full annex.

Why would I not do that? To gimp myself?

I'm sorry that PI can't code a 20 line Bitter Peace CB.
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>>144708475
Funny because EU4 is still unplayable
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>>144708401
>okay here deep battle men listen up because this some complex shit :DDD
>infantry, move forward
>what else
>there is no else that all
>wowwoah this is some alexander level shit here boss :DDD
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I still can't get over it guys. There were Soviet troops in the Netherlands when I invaded as Germany. Who the fuck made this possible?

I want to play HoI3 so badly before I go to bed just to get the taste of this mess out of my mouth.
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pls don't support paradox. they're a bunch of sjw faggots. pirate all their games pls.
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>>144708570
>I set nato symbols, but in close zoom mode there soldiers moving, firing, running ... as in stupid arcade game for kids ...
Really? I thought it allowed NATO counters?
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>>144708004
thank you for this
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>>144708716
No.
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>pls don't support paradox. they're a bunch of sjw faggots. pirate all their games pls.
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>>144708580
Nothing forces you to full annex at the peace conference. Except being a retard. So are you telling me you're a retard?
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>>144708873
t. meneth, johan, podcat, wiz and every other nonce working for bollock sniffers incorporated
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>>144708770
I read that the best combination is NATO counters and no 3d models, that combination might solve the old man's problem
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>>144708570
Disable 3d Units and 3d buildings in graphcis options

Enable Nato Counters in gameplay options.

It's still shit since you can't really tell their exact province and it clumps them together when you zoom out.

Welcome to gsg 2016 old man.


pls buy Gary Grigsby's War in the East

>>144708924
How much did Johan pay you to shill for this piece of shit?
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Do I want to have my military and naval facs at max production always? I'm guessing yes but is there any downside??
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>>144708570
Link to original thread
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>>144709036
see >>144708004
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Okay the fuck is up with France and Vichy France being two different countries?
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>>144709136
I shouldn't have to mod my game to not make it look like absolute shit or discern game play info.

one can dream though
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>>144709036
>pls buy Gary Grigsby's War in the East
>only options are jew risk tablet simulator or overpriced one trick tedium
2016 is really the year of grand strategy™.
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>>144708580
Also, why the fuck would you want bitter peace, which is a compromise? That shit is implausible and fucktarded. In hoi2 ussr would always declare war on you afterwards anyway.
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>>144709263
>tedium meme

tedium is not in any true GS player's vocabulary
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>>144709257
t. false flagging pr dev expecting us to say "that's historically accurate" and then praise hoi4
>doesn't even rename france "free france"
Nice try, wizberg.
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>>144708580
>Gains Annex war goal against the Soviet Union.

I completely understand the business decision that Paradox made behind the design philosophy of HOI 4 - it's a multiplayer-focused strategy game in a WW2 setting. It's not meant to be an in-depth commentary on the timeframe nor a source of historical insight.

However, these kind of games often attract history enthusiasts, and seeing "annex" and "Soviet Union" together is just awful. Why couldn't they make a Bitter Peace event like all of the other games? It's a great reward for the player and gives context to the game's world. Even if not an event, just a special CB that allows you to the conquer up to the Urals - anything but ANNEX them. What were they thinking?
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>>144709362
te deum is
>>
oi nig nogs

The [FitGirl Repack] magnet is solid?
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>>144709262
well I agree but not so arduous a task to fix this particular aspect at least.
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>>144709401
This conspiracy level is nonsensical and you know it.

What's next? Flat Earth? Pah!
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>>144709362
>same thing for literally the entire game
It would be fine if it simulated the whole world and politics like DH or HoI3 but it literally is just the war in the east.
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>>144709257
>what are civil wars
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>>144709107
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stupid-soldiers-moving-everywhere.942802/
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So, out of curiosity - if I do start as the UK and go Fascist, what happens to those Commonwealth national focuses?
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>>144709348
Because I don't want to police everything past the Urals and play rebel whack-a-mole. Ideally the USSR would fragment into small states. I don't fucking know since the Nazi's didn't win because they were in way over their heads.

If you think Germany had any chance in hell in policing that massive of a piece of land you're delusional.

>also their plans only called for the land up to the Urals
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>>144709556
>that topic
mein sides
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>>144709436
>le bitter peace meme
Yeah, because germaniums leaving a soviet rump state on their border in siberia is realistic as fuck.
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>>144709036
I don't need to be paid to tell some fucktard on the Internet he's wrong about history or basic game mechanics. You're literally using a video game made up scenario to make your appeal to historic plausibility.
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>>144709534
Civil war after Germany takes France and its renamed? Hows that a civil war?
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>>144709486
Smooth
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>>144709641
you fucked up
wrong thread
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>>144709645
A soviet rump state? No. A russian rump state, with central asia fragmenting too? Yes.
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>>144709648
Fuck me mate, if we're going by that train of thought why can't I convert the Holy Roman Empire in EU4 into a tribal nomadic empire?

It's only a video game, why should I have to make it historically plausible
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>>144709645
Well they wouldn't have been communist
It would have been a Russian puppet state
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>>144709641
More of a grand strat than HoI4 is, desu
>>
How do I stop exporting rubber?
I built some synthetic oil things for it then I immediately export it all without my consent and now I need some more.
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You need convoys for naval invasions right? I have 100 available but it is telling me there is 0/0 for naval invasions
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>>144709737
>implying the USSR would agree to it's complete dissolution and ocxupation of the entire western half
The USSR would only of accepted peace if they could keep Siberia as they had moved all their industry there during the course of the war.
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>>144709597
>So, out of curiosity - if I do start as the UK and go Fascist, what happens to those Commonwealth national focuses?
Nothing, to my knowledge.
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>>144708634
wew ebic trole mr. clapper
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>>144706427
The Chinese coast burns, from Canton to Qingdao.

Cheng Sao looks to the future, and contemplates the future of the Haizei. Surely these golden times, of easy plunder and a sickly Ming dynasty could not last forever. The pirates could not afford to grow fat off of their newfound wealth, or risk losing it all.

The princess commissioned the soberest architects to be found among the anarchic pirate towns, and began work on a new fortress that would cement her rule.
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So is HOI IV casualised trash? I found myself enjoying HOI III the most having modded it, this causing both the tactical and strategic aspect to become more in depth. You just blob without actually thinking about it in this right
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>/gsg/ universally shitting on paradox
>not shitting on itself
>not letting the steamgroup shit on it
This is how /gsg/ used to be.
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>>144709657
The fascist tag for France is Vichy France. I don't think there is even a Vichy France event via German conquest anymore.
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>>144709764
sadly exporting is fully automated
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>>144709764
build electric gear factories
new mene[/spoilers]
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>watching 2016 victory day parade in red square
>most of the soldiers are goose stepping
wtf? I thought gommies hated nadzis
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>>144709895
Infantry moving forward is not a strategy and you know it, vlad.
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>>144709985
I think there's potential for it to be alright after 4 years of DLC and a dozen major mods
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>>144709985
Yeah if you were one of the rare individuals who actually enjoyed HOI 3 then hoi 4 is gonna look like absolute trash to you.
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>>144710095
The Russian military tradition as we know it in terms of early modern to modern militaries, was largely inspired by the Prussian model, you understand now?
>>
Someone post that mega tank that drives straight to berlin and doesn't need to turn.
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>>144710082
Alright I have been putting this off for the entire time you've been doing this, over a month now, atleast. I am really fucking annoyed by this meme. Victoria 2 is a great game, by far the greatest grand strategy of all time, in no other game can you manage an economy, your pops, your diplomacy, your taxes, your army and your sphere of influence at the same time. Victoria 2 takes every element of every game and makes it great. Your pathetic fucking mana/dynasty/OoB/insert single issue game simply can't compete. I've tried playing them, believe me. They are pathetic. You play them and you only have to manage one, maybe, two things. Hah, what is this mess? It's a botched job. A complete write off. And sure, if you like that sort of purile simplistic shit then more power too you, it's not my job to kick down your sandcastle. But why must I spend my time arguing this with you? Just because Victoria 2 is too complex for you doesn't mean it is for everyone. And when challenged you crawl back into your same abhorrent memery, because that's all this is, you don't have the slightest clue what you're saying or who you're messing with, because if you did you'd stop. Go back to playing your blob simulator, little man, because this general belongs to us. The true strategy gamers. Not your lame, disgusting casual shit. And you know the worst part? We can't even meme back. Hell, I'm sure there's some really overpowered trade good in EU4, but we can't say "hurr durr naval supplies" or whatever because the simple fact is nobody has played your favoured game since EU3, back before they dumbed it down for people like you. So well done, my friend, you made an intellectual victoria 2 fan MAD. You've achieved your greatest feat since you formed grossulmiums, mark this on your wall as a victory for your abysmal existence because I can tell you now, kiddo, this is your peak.
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>>144710110
t.
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>>144710254
We need a new one for HoI4
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>>144710162
I mentioned mods for a reason, and with mods IMO HOI III gave you a real challenge that required actual, ya know, tactics and strategy. So is there even a worthwhile tactical aspect to IV or what
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>>144709985

>You just blob without actually thinking about it in this right

See

>>144707605
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based Manstein
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BELIEVABLE WORLDS
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>>144710959
Anon you are flaring me up
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>>144710959
Italy owning Alsace was the one thing that could actually rustle me a bit, and this screenshot has that. Fuck this game. It will take a decade of mods and $300 of DLC to patch it in something decent.
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>>144711072
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>>144699774
>not recognising the master of jewish noses
step up
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Fuck i knew i shouldn't have come here before playing now i dont want to anymore.

Do you guys think a Facist New Zealand play through is too much for a first time HOI player?
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>>144702721
What are you talking about?
>>
How railroaded is HOI4 compared to HOI3?

What interesting mods are people planning to not finish on the paradox forums?
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Well /gsg/?
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>>144711380
>Kiwi Empire

Unless that sounds appealing to you, don't bother
>>
>>144711520
Total sandbox.
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>Report and ignore autist put two uppercase I's in stellaris so /gsg/ wouldn't show up in the catalog

Dedicated autism
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I'm done with hoI4 for tonight. Time to play a superior game
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>>144711380
You'll be able to conquer the world easily, this is barely a step up from a mobile game, just press the big shiny buttons and everything is done for you
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>>144711561
do it
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>>144711561
i'll beat the living shit out of you. bitch ass dork.
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>>144711561
wew paradox
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>>144711642
I'm done with hoi4 till the next inevitably pointless and disappointing expansion
I don't even wanna mod it because it's such a fucking insurmountable task at this point to fix even half of this broken shit
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>>144711561
I thought she died before WWII wtf
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>>144708004
causes CTD on load for me
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>>144711791
Honestly HOI4 doesn't belong here. We should just ban it like stellaris tbqh.
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>>144711857
Small chance she survives
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>>144711857
Well it was either alt history feminist flavor or fixing the hopelessly broken event chains like the Fall of France which just doesn't seem to fire most of the time
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>>144711857
They changed the timeline events so that they can be different. The Hindenberg can be saved, and Amelia can successfully circumnavigate the world.
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>>144711970
This. I'm gonna make the HOI4 General tomorrow and get this Reddit shit out of here.
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>>144711938
Check defines_graphics instead
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>>144703598
>what gsg's look like to non-autists
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>>144711613
We talking Mexico reaching from Texas to Columbia, Greece getting 1025 borders, Turkey getting 1914 borders, forming Scandinavia total sandbox?
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>>144709905
Although Princess Sao's first insticts on contact with the filipino natives was to execute their leaders and place their heads on her flagship's mast, the Haizei were relatively few in number. An uneasy symbiotic relationship formed as more of her pirates took native wives, and the seized wealth of the mainland was traded for the goods necessary to maintain morale and the fleet.

This fragile status quo would be further tested, as independent minded Haizei captains sought freedom away from the Ilacos fortress and Sao's machinations.
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How the fuck do I line up my troops on the coasts?
Since coasts don't count as borders, I can't create a front line there.
Do I have to manually move each division in place?
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>>144709105
>>144709105
>>144709105
>>144709105
????
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You guys really need to get more creative with your faction choices.
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>default stance for planes is to never repair yourself and fly until you die
literally why?
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>>144711916
What map mode is that?
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>>144711857
the flavor events leading up to the war have a small chance to be different
the olympics
hindenburger
earhart
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>>144712237
Just use garrison area or fallback line.
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>>144712317
Why hasn't Russia surrendered yet, I have Leningrad, Stalingrad and Moscowgrad?
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>>144697864

Because he was a tasteless piece of shit?
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>Pick yugoslavia
>Join Allies
>Get killed by Italy before uk can help
>Fight back hard
>Hungary joins Axis
>Die

Well fuck.
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>non-GP countries have next to no flavor

What the fuck is the point
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So whats the verdict on HoI4?
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>>144712461
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>144712461
Don't worry, I'm sure the bitter peace event will fire any time now!
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>>144712534
It's not GS and doesn't belong here
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>>144712461
There is no Bitter Peace event, you can only annex them or make a peace deal for whatever you want
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how do you plat online with pirate verison?
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>>144711642
Winged Cloud is literally Paradox but for weeb pandering.
I wonder if the normalfags know that the games aren't even made in glorious nippon. They'd probably commit sudoku.
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>>144712534
Eugh/10
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>>144712681
>perfect grammar
>no punctuation
fuck off report and ignore autist your're not banning another game
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Senpai I made australia facist so that I could justify war goals against countries in south-east asia but the option's greyed out and says that democracies can't justify war goals. Definitely am a facist country, any way to fix?
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>>144712809
How would he ban the game from here ?
>>
Despite Byzantine having Free inheritance illegal, I still got 5 counties inherited to my realm. Why is that? Is it because they where of the same dynasty?
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>>144712809
Don't worry lad. He'd never get away with banning a hearts of iron game like he did with stellaris.

The steamgroup doesn't even support him this time. Help from the steamgroup was pretty much the only reason he got away with it last time.
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>>144711857
>I thought she died before WWII wtf

Neville Chamberlain wasn't Prime Minister in 1936 either, Anon-kun.

I cannot believe just how lazy they were with this bullshit game. I got ragged on by /gsg/ for "not letting paracum have their fun xD" when I said they were spending too much time pandering and making dumb meme jokes instead of working, and now look where we are.

What even was their excuse for not bothering to do custom leader portraits instead of the wacky suit-changing guy? Aren't there only like 80 countries anyway?
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>>144712953
Rumor has it he controls the OP and most of the things in it. He pretty much controls /gsg/.

Proof? Anytime the OP has something different in it the first post isn't "reminder to report and ignore shitposting"
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Is army-group AI actually functional or am I better off microing everything?

Is the shit about a combat bonus for using AI orders true?
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What would Hearts of Steel be?
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>>144713167
If you say he controls the OP how can you say he's trying to ban the game when the OP image has HoI4 ?

What kind of conspiracy shit is this ? It doesn't even make sense.
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>>144712931
Nvm restarted and it works now
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>>144712117
nah. I found the variables but just crashes on initial load after changing the values.
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>>144712809
Report and ignore dude isn't the one who banned Stellaris. Remember earlier when there was no Stellaris shit posting in the op? Report and ignore guy didn't post in the thread as the first post. He approves of Stellaris, it was the stream group and liquor memers who banned Stellaris. Report and ignore autist is our guy.
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>>144713167
Anytime the OP has something different in it is usually shitposting.
Like changing HPM's pastebin.

Last thread he wasn't the first and the OP is the same as this one.

I know it's not one guy because I post it too.
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>>144713265
Read my other post. He knows he could never get away with that because the whole general would be up in arms and it would probably kill /gsg/ forever.
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Does this game even have an event log? For a mobile game it's infuriatingly hard to tell what the fuck is going on
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>front was already at a red line
>Germany declares war
>launch an offensive

payback time
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>>144712218
Good news arrives on all fronts. What was formerly a motely band of brigands has been shaped into an effective, if small, pirate fleet.

The fiercely xenophobic natives of Manila resisted the first three attempts by captain Zhanshan Zhou to settle the area. After slaughtering the menfolk and enslaving the women of the three largest native villages, the remaining natives had no choice but to allow the Haizei presence. Though most natives considered them traitors and dishonorable scum, more pragmatic individuals flocked to the new settlements, seeking to understand the ways of the drunken conquerors.
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>>144713486
>He's trying to ban a game.
>At the same time he made an image with said game and post it every thread in the OP.

This doesn't make any sense at all. It's contradictory.
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HOI4 is great, guys.
Played 8 hours yesterday.

Cant wait for good mods though.
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I CAN'T FIND THEIR CAPITAL IS THIS SOME SORT OF BUG REEEEEEEEE JUST LET ME WINNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>144713197
>Is army-group AI actually functional or am I better off microing everything?

It puts your forces at the mercy of the AI, try it out and see.

>Is the shit about a combat bonus for using AI orders true?

Yes
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>game about WW II
>without money and budgets
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How do I see the result for the air combat in a region?
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>>144713660
Find the big star
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>>144712956
Anyone?
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>>144713602
He's a low info poster, probably from /v/. Read my post here >>144713402

R&I autist is a good guy and the hero we need. One day Stellaris and /gsg/ will join and he'll be the force behind it. Mark my words.
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>>144713403
That's usually when a shitposter makes a thread before him and he gets pissy. On dead nights when he's not awake to make a new thread you can tell.
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>>144713660
They either have to capitulate entirely or you have to make a peace deal, it's a goddamn mess no matter which way you look at it.
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>>144713796
I just think the idea
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>>144713796
Even if stellaris was allowed here again it would probably be dead and nobody would post about it tbqh. I just want iy back because the ban causes unnecessary hostility.
>>
>>144713872
>>144713796
Shit.
I just think the idea of accusing anyone who speaks english but doesn't punctuate to be the same person some conspiracy shit, not mention noting this shit and posting about it is pretty obsessive, but then saying that the guy wants to ban a game at the same time you say he controls the OP that supports same game is not even conspiracy shit, it's plain illogical.
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>>144714038
Only hostility comes from the butthurt 4x fags from the steamgroup tb.h.
No one gives a shit about them either.
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How the hell do I win this lads? It's been at a near standstill for a while
>>
How do I decrease my number of vassals in CK2?
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>>144713737
It's absolutely retarded, I tell ya

Don't soldiers get paid and shit
>>
>>144714228
These Greeks don't look Turkish
Realistiv portraits when
>>
>Romania declines to give me Bessarabia
How the fuck am I supposed to win this?
I have literally 4 times the amount of people fighting and it's impossible to take because hills and rivers.
>>
>>144714038
Honestly we're probably gonna have to face the stellaris problem sooner or later because 4xg will inevitably die one day like it did last time.
>>
>>144713294
Well you fucked something
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>>144714387
I'm playing as Romania so I hope you FUCKING LOSE YOU COMMIE FUCK
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>>144714389
It will stay the same shit as it is now.
Civ also tried to come back when they died, we got some immigrants and the usual steamgroup shitposters trying to push it back in but it didn't happen. After saying more than a month in its own general, it left for good.
>>
>>144714219
The steamgroup is anti stellaris tho
>>
>>144714079
This thread is fucked. Of if you say anything negative about hpm someone will call you rob or Alex gandhi, I don't even know who those guys are. If you criticize Victoria 2, someone will assume you're shit posting. If you praise any paradox game that's come out in the last 5 years you're automatically Johan or some other dev.
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>>144714524
Nah.
They are pro-stellaris.

They changed their public position when that was exploited to kick it out.
>>
>>144714219
steamgroup is anti stellaris
>>
So should I pirate or buy HOI4?
>>
>>144714612
Coupled with what we are talking about it seems like a recurring trend.
>>
>playing as my grossgermaniums
>defeat france
>decide to let vichy france live on
>instead north of france become vichy france ruled by some nigger
>southern france also becomes vichy france
>both frances are at war with each other
>cant take the north because its my ally

FUCKING HOI4
IT WAS ALL GOING SO WELL
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>>144714495
well I dunno man I verified cache, it worked. Changed it again and it crashed.

fuck it.
>>
>>144714612
t. Rob
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>>144714495
Yeah
Your mom
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>>144714785
forgot screenshot
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>>144714719
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>>144714038
The liquor war, the /gsg/ civil war and the stellaris spergout were the worst thing to ever happen to this general. Nothing has felt the same since.
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Why aren't these chink idiots surrendering already? Where do they even get supplies to keep fighting? Also how do I use planes?
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>>144715025
Giving little names to your pathetic shitposting episodes so you can feel like you accomplished something and to pretend you are important and had an impact is one of the saddest things I ever saw in a general.
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>>144715054
Because wiz ai
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>>144714647
And how do I know you aren't a steamgroup member lying to cover it up? That's your logic m8
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>>144715054
Have you tried attacking with units that are at full strength and organisation, m8?
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>>144714963
Why the fuck does that France own Alsace?
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>>144715054
Wew
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>>144715198
Woah chill hot head
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New Thread
>>144715328
>>144715328
>>144715328
>>144715328
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>>144715198
Hey man, it's the /gsg/ culture and it's important to us....
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>>144715226
Yeah but the chinese keep fending off my forces. How do i use planes?
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>>144715025
I remember when the general was fun to be in. Now it seems like no one can actually talk about a game, no matter which one it is, without getting memed to death. I long while back I posted my Vicky 2 game where I took half of china as Bhutan and it was fun to post, but if I did that now it would be memed to death on the first post. I dunno lad, its getting terrible here now, might as well leave and come back later I guess.
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>>144715025
Since when? /gsg/ has been shit for years. The liquor memes injected some genuine fresh humor into the general if anything.
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>>144715217
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>>144692656
famalam please stop this. I am autistic, buf I am not autistic enough to micromanage 1000+ divisions near end game. Plus the fleets, plus micromanaging the planes. If you did not automate anything a single game would take days to play.
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>>144695818
>>loved hearts of iron 3 & how it played, though didn't quite like how historically strict things were in vanilla
>i know there's probably some mods out there for hoi3 that'll loosen the historical restrictions, but i'm yet to find them
Historical Plausibility Project.
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>>144715450
Just report the shitposting and ignore the shitposters
You know they are niggers, they just want to shit the place up
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>>144715654
Is fucking shit
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>>144715450
Leaving is exactly what the shitposters want
Ignore their memes, it will die. What they want is a reaction
Report their shit too. Nothing gets a shitposter more butthurt than having their shitposts deleted
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>>144715394
Yeah yeah, keep telling yourself you did something important to someone with your worthless life.
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>>144715753
Not really? It's not like it's particularly complicated. Doesn't go autist with units and techs like BICE does, does what anon asked for in terms of randomizing some stuff.
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>>144716314
Yeah it is.
Not even that guy but fuck me, it has some fucking memes like California seceding.
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>>144716491
In the event of total collapse of the US, not randomly. How often does that even happen?
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>>144716834
Often enough to be common knowledge
HPP is the mememod of HoI3
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>>144717141
I mean, I've played a couple dozen campaigns and have never seen it actually happen.
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>>144717329
Doesn't mean it doesn't happen or make it more realistic
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>>144717764
>make it more realistic
If the US central authority somehow collapsed? Why not?

More importantly, how does this matter weighed against things like the more fluid events between the SU-Germany, Germany-Allies, Japan-SU, etc.
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>>144718070
>If the US central authority somehow collapsed? Why not?
That's part of the "unrealistic" side of this shit
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>>144707425
>I blew $90 on this to support Paradox

KEK

K-E-K
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>>144719479
Anon, it's an alternate WW2. If America somehow gets blown to shit, the fact that things are ridiculous in the OTL is rather irrelevant.
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>>144714280
You go full tyrant.
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Steam reviews are "very positive"

What do you have to say for yourself /gsg/?
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>>144720206
Anon, there were reviews with less than two hours of play that were positive. People are stupid as fuck.
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>>144720206
Trump is winning on all states
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>>144720726
He's also BASED.

Your point faggot?
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>>144721272
That memes are magic, even when the subject matter is shit.
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>>144720206
I couldn't find a single negative one when I looked. I'll put my money of Hoi4 continuing to improve.
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>>144721272
Point is, dumb people are the majority
You are the living proof
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>>144722856
Eh. It kills all hope of patches fixing it anytime soon, but I figure it will be fine in a few years. Parajew will have released all the DLC by then, so modders will have all the tools. There are some good ingredients there, everything is just undercooked in tradition Paradox fashion.
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>>144711642
THICC
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>>144698294
If your encryption - their decryption is better than their encryption - your decryption, you get a small bonus in all combats, and if its the other way around, they get the small bonus.
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>The Commonwealth is still broken in HoI4
Why?
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