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feminine penis

>f-farron greatsword is NOT a meme weapon
>i can show you how to use it properly
>no really I can
>why are you laughing
>fucking i-invade me you b-BITch

>Check wiki for Farron G
>"Deals a slightly amount of edge damage."
Pls stop editing the fextralife... it's not nice...

>BB OP image
Come on with this shit

If you want BB in the OP go ahead, I don't care, but at the very least post an image relevant to the general's namesake

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>>144620835
want

Quick! Name a fun weapon to main

>>144620938
MLGS

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http://www.strawpoll.me/10408168
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10408168
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Event poll

>>144620938
hand axe (really)

>>144620903
>implying
You're the one moving off the subject, fuckface. Can you not medium parry? I can parry just fine with a medium shield.

>>144620892
>tfw I had a 10 winstreak on high wall with it
idk, git gud may-b

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>>144621023
>sl30
>high wall
>winstreak with farron g
You really don't get it and I'm very amused

>>144620938
broadsword

>>144621007
if you can, grats to you
they're extremely bad parries compared to any other parry tool

the only things that are about even are kats/thrusting swords

Okay last time asking,

But someone donate a hollow infused +0 wep to this sl36 shitter?

>>144620938
A difficult one to main, Zweihander

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>>144621176
>dodging once again

>>144620992
I like your style

>>144621007
Original post:
>LITERALLY one of the best parries in the game, second only to the caestus
When it's proven to be completely false:
>he can't medium parry
you're one really dumb motherfucker, aren't you

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>>144621184
Yeah lemme boot up my Atari 5200

>>144621260
And I have a feeling I like yours.

>>144621102
So was that about some discussion from last thread and you were too dumb to link to it?

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Dragon?
Dragon.

Morning.

>>144621334
nah, nothing much. some trash can braggart is proud that he can farm noobs at sl30 with the farron ugs.

big red flag: calling the dagger 'one of the best parries in the game'

oh and i almost forgot: go fuck yourself, find the post yourself.

>>144621265
>14th frame, literally as shitty as medium shields
>he can't medium parry
>HURR DURR YOU'RE A RETARD MOVING GOALPOSTS
I never said medium parries were the bestest of the greatest next to Caestus but he can't use medium parry frames and calls them shit.

>>144620736
>subject fucked up
>op fucked up
>didn't even link the previous thread
holy shit

>>144620916
It's a good image.

>>144621471
>>144621265
okay stop, you guys are arguing about completely different things.

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>>144621358
no

>Greatsword of judgement is still garbage
Thanks

>>144621246
previous guy isn't me, just saying something

>>144621585
>Space Pope simultaneously wields the best and worst ultra greatswords in the game
Pottery.

rank the katanas:

chaos blade
bloodlust
black blade
uchigatana
onikire anime
memepole

Does the collision part on the Washing Pole mean it's R1's properly combo now or does it mean something else

>>144621653
Only one of them is a UGS lad

>>144621697
most likely they will nerf the range of running r1 poke that had way bigger hitbox than it should

>>144621674
CB > O&B > BB > Bloodlust > WP > Uchi

Haven't used the Darkdrift

>>144621674
1. Darkdrift
2. Anything else, because NOTHING CAN DEFEND

>>144621717
Okay okay semantics

>Space Pope simultaneously wields the best UGS and the worst slightly smaller greatsword family weapon
there you go Faggot of the funless realms

>>144621812
Bloodlust is the worst one Anon

Should I sleep? I've been up since 5 pm, it's 5 am now.

>>144621906
>bloodlust +5 buffed with your own blood
Psh...nothin personnel kid...just some AR...

Meanwhile Washing Pole's claim to fame is range and Uchigatana is a much worse Chaos Blade

>>144621906
It's literally and figuratively the edgiest weapon in the game. I mean look at the design, LOOK AT THE WA!

>>144621891
They're completely different classes, it's like calling the club a greathammer.

>>144621967
The buff lasts ten seconds and is terrible

>>144621967
bloodlust has the same range as the uchigatana , chaos blade is slightly larger and fits my sweetspot, black blade has an intresting moveset that throws people off.

>>144622030
>Chaos Blade no longer has the nothin' personal R2
Black Blade is pretty good

Bloodlust is better than the Uchigatana though, there's no reason at all to ever use the Uchi when Chahos Blade exists

>>144622018
The buff adds good damage

1v1 me right now and let me bloodlust buff before the fight starts, it'll change your tune

>nerfing the twinblades
>after oroborororo had a mental breakdown in his stream about from patching all the combos

kek

>>144622143
Reminder : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olJUKyFanJk

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>you now realize that one of the DLCs will be the Ashen One going back to the point in time where Lorian fought the Demon Prince. It will be discovered that in fact, Lorian failed and his legs were crippled that way. The Ashen One had to kill the Prince and Lorian lost his voice so he would never tell the truth about it.
>this also means we'll return to Izalith once more
how does it feel?

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>you have to parry their first attack and then every consecutive one or you'll be stunlocked to death
>this is half of the mobs and bosses in the game
>you are only immune to a stagger in the single last frame of your attack

>>144622143

Good, I hope that faggot kills himself so no one has to listen to his ear-piercing voice anymore because he can't just use the same OP combo against people over and over and over again.

>>144622143
>after oroborororo had a mental breakdown in his stream about from patching all the combos

been out of the loop for 2 weeks, what was changed on the combos?

>>144622271
you can escape the last hit of cugs-like spin slash meaning it only does 1000 damage instead of 1200, oh the woe is me

>>144621883
darkdrift has a shitty weapon art that never hits. god that thing sucks

>>144622196
I wouldn't mind because mechanically speaking I have yet to be 100% disappointed by DLCs from FROM

>>144622236
No?

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>>144622143
>from is nerfing all crutches
bueno

>>144622183
>>144622143

Reminder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JVX2ljrpyQ

>>144622250
Souls celebs are some of the worst e-celebs around

>mfw "Fuck you Bao Bao you're not playing fair." has been ingrained into my mind

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>>144622454
>mfw using perseverance on leo red hilted and outtrading that combo

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>you will never live in a small house nestled within her cleavage

Was Emerald Herald blind too?

Are dark miracles and dark sorceries useful at all? Or should i just stick to pyromancies? Is having multiple catalysts stupid?

Also, I'm finding I'm relying very little on my pyromancy in pve and pvp, what can i do to get more from it? It feels like a waste to just use pyromancies to cheese things, but it's not as useful as i was hoping.

>>144622143
When did he have his breakdown?

>>144622448
>SL120 pontiff duel
>some mage fag with MLG sword
>have a black knight shield, dodge the first two R1's and get ready to tank the rest so I can attack
>he attacks FIVE (5) more fucking times

Jesus fucking christ how horrifying

>>144622346
In a game where healing and rolling are overpowered, not being able to lock people and kill them in a single combo is quite a big deal, anon.

>>144622458
very true. never really bothered with DS content creators before DS3 except LobosJr speed/challenge runs.
with DS3 i have started to check out some of the other youtubers. FightingCowboy is pretty awesome imo and ENB is okay. The rest of them is pure cancer.

>>144622661
No, but it was something way worse. Something called "heterochromia"

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Really like the way the Blessed buff looks on this.

>>144622762
whore

>Adjusted the attack power and skills of fist and claw weapons.

I really hope this means adjusting the wind-up time on fist weapon attacks, that's the biggest flaw in them currently. Same with whips actually save for the weapon art.

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i need fashion ideas

post outfits

>>144622732

I think they're just trying to kill any reason ever to do invasions, nerfing any way invaders have to actually turn the tide against their overwhelming disadvantage.

I'm hoping it gets so bad that they actually have to start nerfing hosts and infinite phantom works.

I like the weapon art FP fix tbqh. It's probably going to make some weapons be less of a thing (perserverance?), which sucks considering variety in DS3 is already kinda ass, but at the same time fuck the designated nigger in the 4 man ganksquad spamming the twincest WA. Will have to see how it plays out. Also rip Morne's, was fun.

Why are there katanas in the souls universe? They feel so out of place.

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>>144622853

Sure.

>>144622449

>>144622940
Because memehacki has to stroke some japdicks somehow

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>>144622853

>>144621580
>killing the crow
Okay.

>>144622940
Why are there fuckin' whips and triple-shot crossbows?
Anyways DS is set in a pretty Western location but there's some weeaboo paradise far away where Alonne and katanas n' shit came from.

>>144622940
I hope From makes a Japanese themed souls game and then adds in a claymore and makes it unbearable stupid while buffing it with consecutive patches.

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>>144622912
>pure 40/40 builds will be forced to spam WA less
>meanwhile hybrids and casters with 20-30ATT are going to use them for days anyway as they never needed simple offhands to start with

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>new patch notes released
>Divine Pillars of Light is still a fucking joke and may as well not even be in the game
>WotG is still shitty
>all lightning spears function like lightning stake and barely tickle when thrown from more than a foot away

I don't know what I'd find funnier, the fact that offensive miracles made it into the game in such a broken state and From are too incompetent to fix, or if they are working exactly as memezaki intended.

>someone summons me
>beat him
>he summons me again for the salty runback
>opens up with a duel charm
>beat him again
>summons me AGAIN

Jesus how salty is this kid

>wake up
>suddenly a fuckton of patch notes and shit

What the fuck did I miss? What are they fixing?

>>144623108
>claymore
way too overused in japanese media

try something plain dumb, like a quarterstaff
or maybe a messer

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>>144622783
GROSSLY INVANDESCENT

>>144623178
nothing.
poise hopefully

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>>144622984
that chest is too fabulous for that helm/leggings
>>144623051
that hood doesn't match that chest, nor do the rags on the leggings

>>144622989
Either removed or activated, I'll be glad. At least stop pretending it works. Hopefully, if they don't fix poise they'll fix %absorb or remove armor weight. I want looking good to be viable, damn it.

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>>144623198
I dont think so

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>>144623131
faith is dumb and you should feel dumb for even paying it any attention

>>144623142
>someone summons me for a duel
>wipe them
>they summon me again, this time with an estoc
>parry, riposte and BC out without killing him

>>144623187
>messer

I could almost gurantee that something like this would be in a game like that because japan is "dude german culture lmao" the country.

>>144623142
>summons me again
>BEAT HIM AGAIN
>DIDN'T EVEN GET HIT

YO HOW SALTY CAN YOU GET

>>144623342
Profaned Capital dlc may include parts of Catarina

>>144623310
Why the fuck is the estoc so goddamn hard to parry. They always spam the fuck out of it but the parry never catches.

Hey, have you guys heard of that shitty LPer called Phil?

>>144622749
>fightingcowboy
I'm pretty sure he is legally retarded though, and he definitely has one of the dumbest names ever.

>>144623484
Hi Phil.

>>144623416
you don't know your pvp parry windows

>>144623210

Never seen The Man in the Iron Mask, have you?

>>144623582
I can parry everything else just fine though. God I fucking hate the noise it makes when they poke too. So annoying.

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>get summoned by a cosplay on my tryhard character
>feel bad but still kill him

>those new patch notes
>they literally nerf EVERYTHING except for straight sword spam and their phantom range

This game is dead
They made dark sword even more broken by nerfing all else that was good

>>144623752
Epic blog thanks for sharing where can I subscribe fuck off no one cares

>>144623484
>Smouldering Lake
>go left
>get shot in the ass by ballistas
>go right
>get shot in the face by ballistas

>go to Irythrill Valley
>get oneshot by doggy
I wish I had a chat to hold my hand and tell me what to do because I'm right I'm getting rekt everywhere.

>>144623778
notes where

>>144622940
Because it's a Japanese game and they always include katanas in those and generally make them OP.

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>>144623752
>>144623792
>summons me again
>feel bad so don't use resin/grass
>switched pierce shield to caestus
>oh boy.jpg
>parries me on the fifth try or so
>pulls out a smough's hammer and hornet ring ripostes
>doesn't kill me
>takes off his helmet
>it's fucking patches
>just waves at me

>>144623826
leddit

>>144623825
Just run past the Ballista shots, or learn to fight the Dog. Also put points into Vig.

"Fun was a mistake"

-hidetaka teriyaki

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Post yfw you realise the first DLC is getting announced in just over a week

>>144623881
I try, but the ballistas arrows (or are they bolts?) are quicker than me. If I roll and manage to avoid the first one, the second one get me right in the kisser.

>>144623178
The Bandai Namco community manager provided info about the next patch on Reddit.

TL;DR: No more sacred flame glitch, more arrows, no more invincible sword master, simple infusions suck now since you can't use WAs with just 1 FP, Washing pole hitbox shrunk, Rapier changed (hopefully nerfed).

>simple infusions nerfed cause you can no longer WA if you don't have all the FP needed
>washing pole nerfed, hosts can now forever roll away

golly gee

Trying to find motivation to finish off the Ivory King, I think I got to the bit where you have to backtrack to find some knights.

Do I have much more to go? I had absolutely no fun playing any of the DLC but I want to at least finish the main bosses of them

>>144621184
I'm on PC, what weapon are you looking for?

>>144623792
nice

>>144623923
If you dodge the first one, wait a second and then roll again, then wait a second then roll another

>>144624001
>simple infusions suck now since you can't use WAs with just 1 FP
Well fuck, time to switch to Profaned sword

>Rapier changed (hopefully nerfed)
Come the fuck on, what am I supposed to do with my offhand parry rapier now? Also what the fuck was wrong with rapiers? It's Estocs that are bullshit

>>144623825
You go across the bridge into Irythill the dog can't follow you due to the magic barrier. This assuming you've beaten Crystal Sage. Of course, the dog will end up showing up a bit ahead in Irythill. Good luck.

For the ballista, as soon as you enter smouldering lake take a left, get close to the giant worm and when it starts to bury itself just sprint, not into the fog wall but into the little path to the right of said fog wall. If you keep going from there you'll eventually reach the place where you deactivate the ballista. Good luck anon.

>>144623778

>Carthus Curved Sword and straight swords not nerfed

Oh boy I can't wait for the next month or so after this patches PvP.

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>>144623843
>katanas are top tier during DaS2
>"let's buff their counter damage"

>>144624016
>twinblades nerfed (probably slowed down) so you can't obobobo wombo combo anymore most likely

Now they just need to significantly nerf hornet ring or parrying in some way and it'll be the final nail in the coffin of invasions.

I have a question regarding the trophy for getting all the rings

I missed 1 (ONE) ring during my NG playthrough. I'm on NG+ right now about to fight Pontiff Sulyvahn.

How does this work? If I, for example, missed the Life Ring, but got the Life Ring +1, does that count? If not, how do I get the normal Life Ring? Through trade? Or am I fucked?

>>144624016
>Simple infusions now literally worthless

>>144624098
I though the Crystal Sage was mandatory?

>the dog will end up showing up a bit ahead in Irythill
HAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>144624089
Ha, okay.

>>144624134
If you're implying that leaving PVP in its god-awful state would be a good thing just because it lets you beat ganks you can fuck right off

>>144624157
I think you misunderstood the trophy
you need ALL rings, this includes +0 +1 +2 & +3

>>144624134

I still don't get that while Ring of Steel Protection/Clutch Rings are nerfed horribly in PvP, the Hornet Ring isn't nerfed for PvP at all. It'd make it perfectly fine if it was like a 10% boost to crit damage against other players and leave it the same in PvE otherwise.

>>144624194
They are leaving dark sword untouched

But nerfing all other things

Enjoy seeing even MORE dark swords

How much VIG should I have at around SL50 as a caster/pyromancer? Those knights at Anol Rondo are one-shotting me

Archdragon Peak: Fixed the freeze when jumping into the fog after ringing the bell.
The Rinfinger Leonhard quest will now start properly after the removal of the restriction on the maximum number of Pale Tongues that can be offered to Rosaria, Mother of Rebirth.
Fixed a Skill being changed based on a right hand weapon when equipping White Hair Talisman on the left hand while holding the Sacred Flame with both hands
The Horsehoof Ring (which increases stamina drains of ATK) will no longer affect other attacks besides its initial effect on kicks.
Fixed the HP drain damage of Symbol of Avarice when resting near bonfire.
Fixed a spell animation and effect not synching up when using the magic repetitively.
Fixed when summoning the white phantom NPC under a certain circumstance, the character's collision will properly function nullifying all enemy attacks.
Fixed issue where skills could be performed even when a certain amount of FP was not available.
Adjusted the attack cancel parameters of some curved swords attacks.
Adjusted the attack power and skills of fist and claw weapons.
Adjusted the skills of twin blade weapons.
Fixed the scythe not penetrating shields at close distances.
Adjusted stamina consumption and attack cancel parameters for rapier weapons.
Adjusted the attack collision for the washing pole weapon.
Adjusted parameters of Farron Hail and Busting Fireball.
Adjusted casting speed, stamina consumption, cancel timing of some Spells.
Increased the number of arrows/bolts that can be possessed.
During online multiplayer: During the invasion of a Dark Phantom, the host will no longer be separated from his area.
During online multiplayer: A dark phantom can no longer be forcibly brought back in some maps.
Fixed the display of strength level shown in the equipment menu when using two-handed weapon.
Other game balance parameters have been adjusted.
Several game flaws fixed.

Removed a few uninportant note changes because text limit

>>144624157
You can get all the rings on higher NGs

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>>144624186
It is but if you're like me you completely missed it and by the time you reach Irythill the dog is facefucking you against the magic barrier you can't cross because you don't have the doll.

Also, if you think one doggy is scary, you're in for a surprise.

>>144624212
Then how do I go about mopping up the rest of the rings? Can you trade rings? Or do I need to start over?

>>144624093
It's rapier/thrusting sword weapons in general that are getting their stamina costs upped and attack cancel parameters changed, not just the rapier specifically. This'll probably affect the Estoc too.

>>144624291
>Increased the number of arrows/bolts that can be possessed
Thank you

>>144624324
as far as I know none of the +0 +1 +2 +3 rings share the same origin
how the fuck did you miss the life ring when it's literally just in the shop

>>144624324
You can still get regular rings on NG+, new rings are at different locations.

>>144624317
You don't scare me, I already met the leech monster near the cleansing chapel and the spider thingy in the cathedral.

>>144624194

No I'm implying balance involves evening things out, not taking everything away from one side and not even touching the other side. Hosts have way too many advantages as it is and now they're just giving them even more advantages. Balance would involve nerfing hosts in some meaningful way to make it still reasonable for invaders to be able to beat ganks. Like patch it so after they summon X phantoms they can't summon any more until they rest at a bonfire or something.

>>144624231
In fact, isn't the Hornet Ring doing more than it's supposed to because of how it's coded to deal with ripostes that have multiple hits?

>>144624358
What do they mean by attack cancel.

And I'm skeptical considering they "adjusted" greatshields.

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>>144624425
You'll see.
Have fun anon:3

>>144624291

>The Horsehoof Ring (which increases stamina drains of ATK) will no longer affect other attacks besides its initial effect on kicks.

Well there goes that being the best thing about Dragon Roar.

>Increased the number of arrows/bolts that can be possessed.

PLS LET ME KEEP 999 AT LEAST.

And increase the current carry limit your character has on arrows at least to make bow runs not complete hell.

>>144624250
I will take them fixing some of the bullshit over none of the bullshit. There will always be something that's "optimal" or whatever but that's not a reason to just leave all of it broken.

Also dark sword is way overblown, it's not that amazing.

>>144624016
I don't see anything about that in the notes. And also fuck the washing pole.

>>144624291
>Fixed issue where skills could be performed even when a certain amount of FP was not available.
Rip in pieces Perseverance

>>144624594
Good luck catching faggot hosts without it

>>144624485
I don't know, I'm just regurgitating From's vague patch notes at you. Wait for reddit or someone here to post an analysis of what's changed once the patch is out.

NOTHING ON STRAIGHT SWORDS

BRAVO MIYAZAKI

BRAVO

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Spend like 1 hour in both nameless king and ancient Wyvern hitting their tails trying to get it off just to be disappointed and notice there isn't anymore tail drops

>>144624016
oh no, you can't just spam WA unless you put points into being a hybrid now and separate some flasks
how horrible

>>144624569
What a cute monster. I want to pet its head and play with its little paw pads.

>>144624424
I didn't, that was just an example. I missed the Bloodbite Ring
>>144624424
Awesome, thanks

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Are you a dragon, a crow, or a brothermongling fuccboi?

>>144624250

The worst thing about the Dark Sword honestly is the general phantom range Straight Swords have that's exacerbated by it since the DS has the longest range. Otherwise it just has the highest AR only by going pure quality in exchange for garbage R2s and WA, so if the phantom range is fixed in this patch or ever that's perfectly balanced as far as I'm concerned.

>>144624732
>DS has the longest range
Gotthards is longer

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>>144624673
Paw pads are the best.

>>144624672
enjoy your dark sword

>>144624632
I do fine.

>>144624818

Are they actually? The DS always looked longer and I've experienced more phantom range with it compared to Gotthard's (save for that cancerous rolling L1 poke), but still the point stands that the Dark Sword isn't terrific outside of the massive range that phantom range and latency gives it. There's no other way to nerf it really without making it complete shit, which isn't ideal balance.

>>144624892
enoy being destroyed by caster builds that have all FP in the world for weapon arts fucktard

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How viable is this for PVP? I want twin axes and they're literally the only pair in the game

>>144624291
yeah gonna need some source

>>144624976
Quite literally no one uses them so I don't think they're very good

>>144624985
Read the thread.

>>144624291
>Fixed issue where skills could be performed even when a certain amount of FP was not available.
That's really fucking lame.

Is it proper to chug FP estus in duels?

>>144624976
OP

>>144624976

They're alright, they do very good damage if you do hit and combo into an L1 but they suffer the same problem all axes/hammers have of being slower then Straight Swords without range or hyper armor to back that up. The weapon art still technically can be an infinite hit if you do manage to hit with it and have the stamina/FP to back it up, but good luck with that.

>>144624985
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4msdma/update_app_version_105_reg_version_108_friday/

You fucking retard

>>144625078
It's fine

>>144625134
raaashiiidDOOOOOOOOOOOO

--- NEW SL META POLL ---

PLEASE VOTE FOR YOUR PREFERRED META LEVEL IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY

http://strawpoll.me/10405830
http://strawpoll.me/10405830
http://strawpoll.me/10405830
http://strawpoll.me/10405830
http://strawpoll.me/10405830


OPTIONS HAVE BEEN LIMITED TO 80, 100, AND 120 SINCE THESE WERE THE TOP 3 CHOICES IN EVERY PREVIOUS POLL

IF YOUR PREFERRED LEVEL ISN'T LISTED, PLEASE CHOOSE THE CLOSEST AVAILABLE OPTION

>>144625072

Stack that attunement, goyim. You need magic power in order to fucking charge with a lance.

FP cost makes zero fucking sense on so many skills.

Why don't the pontiff knight weapons have innate frostbite?

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>>144624581
>The Horsehoof Ring (which increases stamina drains of ATK) will no longer affect other attacks besides its initial effect on kicks.

>>144624976
The WA is useless unless you apply carthus jam, which turns it into a blender

>Adjusted the skill of Twin Blade weapons

oroboro memers getting btfo

>>144625276
So now we can either use a buff or use are WAs.

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>all those assblasted SL80 fags with minmaxed warrior builds crying that they can't exploit their perseverance crutches for free anymore at lower levels
someone post that avelyn ds2 picture

>>144625272

What if I think SL90 is the best?

>>144625315
we have to make turtles literally invincible, otherwise hosts might have trouble stalling for more phantoms

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>>144625456
Might want to use that bleed jelly on better bleed weapons

>>144625525
You're shit out of luck because the meta is SL125

>>144625501
Neither can SL120 40/40/40/40 "builds"

>>144625272
>still posting the rigged poll
*tips*

>>144625601
No one needs to exploit that shit at 120. You can also spare a few points for FP at 120 as well.

>Adjusted casting speed, stamina consumption, cancel timing of some Spells.
boy is it gonna take a while to figure out what the fuck this means

>Fixed a Skill being changed based on a right hand weapon when equipping White Hair Talisman on the left hand while holding the Sacred Flame with both hands
I'm really gonna miss killing fightclub hosts.

>>144625601
most of 120 builds don't need anywhere close to 40 end, only str users with greathammers and ugs
you can easily get ~25 ATT even on quality build and back it up with a few flasks and supplemental miracles and pyromancies

>>144624664
The only overpowered straightsword is Gotthards, which is being fixed.

>>144624291
>attack cancel parameters

So spells and more weapons have hyperarmor now? Or "working as intended" poise?

What the fuck are ''Attack Cancel Parameters''

>>144625565
>Might want to use that bleed jelly on better bleed weapons
But the guy specifically wanted to use the twinaxes.

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>>144624721
Spider

>>144625868
He should stop wanting to use bad weapons. I mean I can slather tomato juice on any weapon, doesn't mean they'll become viable

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How much strength do I need to use the Washing Pole 2H? It needs 18str, I thought 2 handing doubled your strength but 10 strength isn't enough. Did they lower the amount you get from 2H?

>>144625843
The window in which you can cancel recovery frames into a roll or another attack.

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>>144625947
>he should stop doing the things he likes

>>144625827
It's about animation cancelling, not hyperarmor.

>>144625664

My beef with it is that it's lame as shit having to take care of a fucking faggot mana bar on my club-wielding barbarian or rank and file soldier.

FP is a garbage concept entirely. I'd rather see mages just get infinite casts, it might actually serve to make magic less shit. God knows the stamina cost is already high enough to justify removing FP.

Keep sucking that dick, though. From can do no wrong, right?

*infuses caestus with blessed*

phew

l2l2l2

>>144625957
Blue board man...

>>144626043
>blessed caestus
>all points in luck
>Anri's Straight sword
>Sun princess ring

>>144625272
>http://strawpoll.me/10405830
>posting the old pol from litteraly months ago
>not the new one where SL100 was on top

>From trying to save the failure that is FP

just fuck my fp and stamina right up famicom

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>>144626027
>FP is a garbage concept entirely. I'd rather see mages just get infinite casts, it might actually serve to make magic less shit. God knows the stamina cost is already high enough to justify removing FP.
I will follow you to the ends of the earth.

>>144624824
Friendly reminder that only Siegwad found the cure to the hollowing.
ALCOHOL

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>>144625501
I think you're a shitfuck but here's the image.

>>144626190
That'd make magic OP in PvE.
>melee fighter get weapons breaking and get in danger
>ranged fighter have limited ammos
>magic are just unlimited

>>144624721
I'm the dirtiest and thirstiest of hollows.

>>144626190
Hell yes. Just came from playing DD as I was burnt out on DS3 and I think the only limit sorceries should have is how OFTEN you can cast, not an overall limit. I think if casting had an even more significant stimmy drain it would be good. Yeah you can shit out CSS with no limit but you probably won't get more than 2 with 20 end

>>144626305
>melee fighter get weapons breaking and get in danger

Except weapons literally never break in this game with how slow weapon breakage is and the frequency of bonfires. I have seriously not even come close to breaking any of my weapons once in like 4 playthroughs so far.

>ranged fighters have limited arrows

An actual complaint but that's something I'm also in favor of removing, plus they're buffing storage capacity for them in this patch.

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So why was prince magical fuckboy destined to become a Lord of Cinder instead of Lorien?

Lorien was an incredible warrior, gigantic, loved by everyone, had a good heart and was the elder brother.

Lothric is a rude, whiny, lazy, effeminate tool that makes your task way more difficult than it needs to be by refusing to come and help you link the fire. He can also barely walk on his own and was born sickly. He's also worn the same goddamn clothes from when he was a baby.

What the fuck royal family? Who made this decision?

>>144626305

Is there even a single area in the game that you can't 100% clear before your weapon breaks?

You'd have to do like, what, all of farron woods with a washing pole?

>>144626305
>melee fighter get weapons breaking
I don't even think its possible to brake a weapon even if you lined up every enemy in the game.

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Post your op OP builds, /dsg/. For when you absolutely, positively, have to kick everyone's ass.

Estoc might become a Dark Sword in the future depending on how this next patch ends up fucking with rapiers. Right now it's bae, tho.

>>144626027
>mana bar
it's your concentration and not mana
> I'd rather see mages just get infinite casts
they already have nearly infinite casts on everything but big nukes
35 ATT allows you flashsword an entire location into oblivion

if you want to use weapon arts then use farron ring, level up your attunement (you ain't some shitty SL80 warrior, right?), make hybrid or caster builds, the fact that 40/40 fags were able to spam WA as much as a people with actual ATT stat investment was a travesty

So with Horsehoof getting nerfed how are we supposed to counter greatshields now?

>>144626438
>I think if casting had an even more significant stimmy drain it would be good.
Nigga at level 80 one chaos orb takes nearly my whole bar.

>>144626579
we become dragonfags.

>>144626447
Lorian is the Elder prince too isn't he? Doesn't the firstborn inherit? What the shit

>>144626439
>I have seriously not even come close to breaking any of my weapons
Well aren't you a lucky piece of shit.
I already broke a spear of mine. And the ring of sacrifice, but that doesn't count.

>they're buffing storage capacity for them in this patch
Good. I was annoyed to be limited at 198 arrows especially since it takes 5 of them to kill a mook.

>>144626305
All bosses in 3 have an attack to punish ranged combat and the lock on range is extremely limited. You can't just throw spells from a safe distance.

>>144626614
Dragon roar only worked with horsehoof equipped.

>>144625501
What happened?

>>144626579

Use weapons with Stance weapon art, the R1 of it does terrific stamina damage against Greatshields and will force them to roll away or take a guard break. Also split damage weapons to chip them away slowly. Drakeblood Greatsword is actually good for both of these things.

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>>144624291
>Fixed when summoning the white phantom NPC under a certain circumstance, the character's collision will properly function nullifying all enemy attacks

Rip swordmaster, good thing i have a few twinks already

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>this thread

>>144626668
Nah, that was only for people 2-handing havel's. Dragonfag yell works just fine on everything else even without the ring.

>>144624291
>Fixed issue where skills could be performed even when a certain amount of FP was not available.
That's pretty ebin. Let's just make sure weapons are ranked purely for their ability to R1 and throw weapon skills out the window. Oh, and no hornet ring nerf of course.

>>144626027
I'd rather FP just had built in regen. Attunement slots should be removed completely: equipping more spells should decrease your total FP, which you should have way more of in the first place.

>>144626683
Patch 1.05/1.08 will make weapon arts require the full FP like spells. No more 1FP WA spam using simple offhands.

>>144626865
kek

glad I didn't fall for the homosword meme

>>144622678
Dark miracles and sorcerers are pretty decent in pve, but dark pyromancies leave a little to be desired.

>>144626654

>Lucky
>For not breaking your weapon
>When there are bonfires literally 15 seconds apart in almost every area in the game
>When you get several gigantic text warnings in the middle of your screen before your weapon breaks
>When repair powders cost 500 souls and the game gives you several for free
>When you have to hit shit hundreds of times before your weapon even starts to think about breaking
>All of that, and pure fucking LUCK is what determines if your weapon breaks or not

Just fucking neck yourself you dumb cunt

>>144626860
>Oh, and no hornet ring nerf of course.
>getting parried ever

>>144627009
>get proved wrong
>"KILL URSELF"

>>144626975
Put a couple of points into attunement, move a flask or 2 over to blue, and grab a farron ring.

Not much has really changed.

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>>144627035

Wait, people actually still fall for the parry meme?

But it's so easy to play around and backstab punish, I mean really? People still get parried in this game?

>>144626865
Ah, I never relied on that crutch anyway.

>>144625957

Were's tjat gif from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIlIMesYI8

>>144627252
Only SL80 shitters ever did.

>>144627201
Happened to me in the middle of a combo.

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>>144626654
>I already broke a spear of mine

How did you manage to break it? I have never gotten below half durability even after killing every enemy in the area.

>>144627065
How did you prove the guy wrong? All you said was that one time your spear managed to break despite all odds

I feel like you have to try really hard to get your weapon even at risk in this one

>>144626447
>why was prince magical fuckboy destined to become a Lord of Cinder instead of Lorien

Because he has strong soul (curse turned Lorian into crippled retrd, Lothric is still sane), can cast miracles and magic without catalyst and physical streng has near the zero correlation with firelinking potency?

>>144627201
Punishing obvious parries is easy, agreed, but let's not pretend bs'ing the Caestus parry is a thing.

>>144627304
Invasions. Also, the slugs don't take much damage from the spear, so I had to hit them a lot.

>>144625957
2/3

>>144626447
Lorien was meant to be the actual king, while Lothric was raised to be fed to the flame to continue the age of fire.

>>144620990
Alternate Event poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408532
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408532
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408532

Which poll should we actually use poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408527
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408527
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408527

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>>144627332
>>144627304

Just don't respond. There are 2 possibilities here; he's just pretending to be retarded and you're giving him (You)s, or he's actually Lennie-tier retarded and you have zero chance of reasoning with him anyway.

It's a no-win situation, just ignore it.

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>>144626654
>I already broke a spear of mine

ayo where the FCs at

>>144627472
I enjoy being baited, don't mind me

>>144626865
On the plus side, non-infuseable shields are now more viable I guess, right?

What does this even really do to the meta? I mean with 6 att I can still use perserverance like 6 times or more, which is enough to win a duel.

>>144627035
>>144627035
>H-Hornet ring is balanced!
>I think it's totally normal for a single ring to be objectively the most necessary piece of passive equipment in the game!
>I would actually prefer the ring didn't get nerfed, so I'm just pretend it never has any effect!
>Samefaging
>so new you think a caestus can be backstabbed

Let's suppose there's a weapon in the game which seldom if ever hits anyone, but can kill people instantly upon contact and can't be punished much at all. Even if it weren't the meta, it's existance would still be a fucking joke. That's what the hornet ring is, except it actually is the meta because nearly any build that gets posted here save for a greatshield and/or popesniper is going to have it.

>>144627472
Yeah, keep whining.

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are there any staffs that can use miracles? I want to play as Gandalf at some point, and miracles seem more like tolkieny magic rather than sorceries

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>>144627201
People crying about parry fishing in DS3 are the most braindead retards ever.
You can dead angle any parry attempt.
You can BS punish any parry tool except for caestus which will obviously get nerfed at some point.
You can straight use an unparriable weapon like halberds that cannot be parried on tips.
You can kick and drain all their stamina leaving them helpless against next attack.

I honestly don't remember the last time i was parried, at this point i threw my parry tool into the garbage bin as well and started using offhand weapons or WA shields.

>>144627597

>Is there anything cool in this game

No.

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>>144626619
>Doesn't the firstborn inherit?
Gavelkind motherfucker

>>144627548
The only thing it does is make sl80 even less viable of an option since even STR builds need more stats now.

>>144627201
>But it's so easy to play around and backstab punish

How tho?

>Opponent wearing caestus
>Opponent whiffs, try to punish -> parried
>Do a jumping attack -> opponent rolls and nothing happens, in the worst case YOU get backstabbed

Don't give me that "use unparryable weapons" -shit, every weapon should be viable

>>144627548
>Let's suppose there's a weapon in the game which seldom if ever hits anyone, but can kill people instantly upon contact and can't be punished much at all.
Sounds like DaS1 Pursuers

>>144627694
>make sl80 even less viable
good

>>144627597
Unfortunately, no. Not even the Deacon staff, wich scales exclusively with Faith.
Let's just hope the DLC delivers on more cross-catalysts
>tfw no Pyro/Sorc-staff

>>144627614
>Anyone who complains about the hornet ring is complaining about parry fishing

Literally retarded

>0:07
>He could have actually parried you if he'd timed it properly
>He stalled for no reason

Literally retarded twice over

>>144627641
>>144627747
well fuck, I might wait for the DLC and see if they bring something along those lines then

Just started the game and am SL22, just beat Vordt, as Knight.

I replaced my Longsword with a Broadsword. Is it useful to make this to +1? Or to add a Refined/Raw gem to it? Or should I save Titanite Shards for something better?

>>144627747
>tfw literal retards put in charge of design choices in this game
>Immolation Tinder that's on fire and the npcs shoot fire with it and has a fire weapon art
>casts fucking sorceries

this is F-Team at its finest

>>144627548
Top pvpers don't use hornet ring unless they're invading or shitting on randoms. Good players get crit so rarely that it's not worth it.

>>144627837
Lothric Knight Sword is what you want.

>>144627396

You can't BS parry a caestus most of the time but you can still get in a couple of free R1's which is basically the same thing.

>>144627730
Precisely. So it's out there now: saying the hornet ring is okay is tantamount to saying pursuers were okay.

>>144627893
So I should just grind the Lothric Knights until one of them drops it?

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>>144627703
well actually timing your attacks is a good starting point

>>144627814

Don't hold your breath.

>It's a sword-catalyst twin weapon!
>It functions the exact same as just holding a sword and a catalyst, but it only uses one equipment slot!
>BUY THE SEASON PASS NOW!

>>144627870
>Top PvPers
>i.e. "some guy I saw on twitch"
Most tourneyfags think katanas are actually meta, you're retarded

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http://www.strawpoll.me/10408168
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408168
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408168
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408168
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408168

Event poll

>>144627870
Nah, they just quickswap to it.

>>144627969
If you want. I did and never regretted it.

>>144627703
>Opponent whiffs, try to punish -> parried
>Do a jumping attack -> opponent rolls and nothing happens

No you're just bad.

>>144627969
You should just play the game and use whatever you like the most. Literally fucking anything is viable in PvE.

>>144627749
you can't parry halberd tips, retard
your theory crafting is cute

>>144628061
Thanks

But what about the distribution of +1/etc? Do the attribute bonuses fade whenever I apply Raw/Refined/Fire?

Does it make sense to upgrade a shield?

>You have a heart of gold. Don't let them take it from you.

What are some lines that make you tear up just a lil', /dsg/?

>>144628057
Alternate Event poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408532
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408532
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408532

Which poll should we actually use poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408527
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408527
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408527

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>all warrior class minmaxers blown the fuck OUT

>>144628164
If you need the protection, yeah.

>>144628014
You're not wrong, but if the people winning tournaments don't count as good players then who does?

>>144627853
>Clerics candlestick
I'm still mad

>>144628009
I'm just hoping for twin Blue Flames

>>144628164
Infusion doesn't affect upgrade level
Titanite gets common as fuck later, don't worry about wasting it. Gems are rare though
Shields only upgrade stability so not really unless you're drowning in shards

>>144628240
>there goes the entire purpose for sl80
Good riddance.

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Anyone has that gif of a guy getting owned and then "Dark Souls" pops up?

>>144628240
What?

>>144627747
>>144627853
The problem with a pyro staff is that a lot of pyromancies involve physically throwing the magic out of your hand. It would look awkward as hell on anything but a pyro glove.

>>144628359
So should I use the gems for something as common as a Broadsword? Or save it for something better, later on?

>>144628492
Infuse weapons you intend to use.

>>144628474
Weapon Arts now require the full FP like spells.

>Adjusted the skills of twin blade weapons.

which ones got nerfed? does it include gotthards?

>mfw DSP played Dark Souls 3
Oh dear god no.

Is the BKG normal 2HR2 parriable? Or does it count as a jumping attack? I mean you literally do jump in the air for it, but it's not a running R2.

>>144628578
Hopefully it means gotthards are nerfed into oblivion up to becoming a hipster weapon.

>>144628492
Broadsword is perfectly fine. I just said anything is viable so pick something you like and don't worry about whether it's optimal or not.
Straight swords are easy mode in general, by the way.

>>144628578
Probably Gotthards, Sellsword, and Warden. They removed the ability to combo into weapon arts from regular attacks for a lot of other weapons, so it would make sense to remove it from those as well.

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>>144628567
delet this

>>144628478
It could use animations like the Deacons though

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please tell me my babies didn't get nerfed

>>144628478
would work just fine on the Immolation Tinder, they simply were too lazy to animate it though so they made it do sorceries instead because they all look the same when cast

>>144628530
>>144628695
Thanks

Looks like they're hellbent on nerfing everything besides straight sword spam, this game is shaping up to be almost as bad as dark souls 2

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>During online multiplayer: A dark phantom can no longer be forcibly brought back in some maps.

What?

>>144628851
Anon, I'm sorry...

>>144628894
Pvp is already worse.
They cant fuck up pve enough to make it that bad tho.

>>144624291

Aww, I was just putting a build together to try out the Sacred Flame glitch and now this happens.

>>144628740

Nah, not gotthards. They specifically said twinblades, which are the paired curved swords, so just sellsword and warden are "twinblades".

>>144628813
Deacon fireballs are basically fire damage soul arrows. They don't have an arc. Plus the more unconventional ones like Black Serpent or even Combustion spells would look maximum silly.

Post tips for new sorcerers

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>>144628894
>this game is shaping up to be almost as bad as dark souls 2
>implying pvp isn't already worse than what is was in das2

>>144628567
I don't think that's as big of a deal as you think it is. Most WAs don't use that much FP and unless you're really spamming it you won't run out very fast. Just carry an ashen flask and it's literally a non-issue.

>Sword Master glitch getting patched
welp time to start the rest of my save slots

>>144628851
>slow as fuck attack that anyone can easily roll away from
>no hyper armor so you can literally just get counterattacked/poked and it stops your attack animation
>short as fuck reach, most weapons can outrange them even longswords

Just use gotthards, hammers suck. FROM really needs to give them hyper armor, then they'd be awesome since you could legitimately trade with their huge damage, but no hyper armor combined with everything else makes them suck since you'll never hit a good player with those things.

>>144628987
That's just pedantic of you.

>>144629126
Make sure to get a good balance of starting classes.

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>>144628894
>gave a reason to use non-infusable offhands, offhand weapons, straight not equipping anything in left slots at all
>increased arrow limit
>nerfed rapiers and washing pole
>a bad thing
the only thing they did is blowing the fuck out SL80 who abused weapon arts into oblivion

>>144629126
Is it that important? I was just going to get a Sorcerer up there for the MLG Sword. I didn't think there was much else that was worthwhile so early on.

I remember early on in Bloodborbe people were wondering if it'd be possible to become a beast, fundamentally change the nature of your character with some transformation mechanic or something.

It's a shame none of the soulsborne games have ever actually done something like this, where your character becomes more like an NPC mob with its own separate ruleset. The closest we've ever gotten is the dragon stones, but all that is is "sacrifice your armor for a shield-breakig roar or some other useless bullshit". Would be cool to have your character actually become an entirely different race or type of entity or whatever.

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Hammers and Axes in general need some hyperarmor, they're absolutely shit on by Straight Swords currently in AR, range, and speed, with none of the benefits great weapons have to make them useable.

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Andre's reaction and tone when you give him the Profane Coal

not necessarily tear up, but he seems really concerned for your safety and he's also one of the only genuinely kind NPCs