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Hobbits edition

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>>144559929
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First for I want to be mounted by Deathclaw.
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So which Warhams ally is the biggest bro?

For me its been Karak Kadrin and the Brets.
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>>144594118
How good is the campaign ai for TATW?

Are there balrogs? Are the Noldor a faction? Is there a Beleriand Campaign?
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SOL INVICTUS when
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>>144594286
1.Very good
2.in base TATW,not in Divide and Conquer
3.No
4.No
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Hi everyone, is rome 2 worth playing?
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>>144594292
There's a mod that has Knights of the Blazing Sun and Knights Leopard.

'The Empire of Sigmar'.
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TOMB KINGS STILL NOT ANNOUNCED
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>>144594482
If you like the time period
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>>144594118
Rollan!
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>>144594687
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>battle of blackfire pass
>the empire sends rebels to reinforce me

Thanks Franz
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>>144594283
Karak Norn, they rekt Chaos pretty hard with me
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>not playing on Ultra unit-size
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The last stronghold of foolish and vain men in Araby stands before me.

the absolute madmen, this is the first time they've let me siege them without sallying.
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>>144594920
>wanting unbalanced and useless magic, artillery and monsters
ISHYGISHYDOODYDOO
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>>144594687
Fuck me to death please.
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>I SHUT THE DAMAZ KRON SHUT IN RAGE AT WHAT THESE FOUL UNDEAD HAVE DONE TO OUR KIN
>Its open in his lap and hes reading it

Nice job CA
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>>144595001
Craven cowards. They scurry off the walls after taking a measly few hundred casualties.
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>>144595262
He's shutting is figuratively, like a door
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first campaign in warhammer, whom to play first?
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Huh, didnt expect an ambush quest battle
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>>144595428
Our second force approaches from the west, we've an agent inside who's opened the gates.
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>historyfags v Fantasyfags

literal autists can't enjoy and appreciate both.

Typical.
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>144595737
>24 posts
>no kind of discussion or shitposting yet
weak b8
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MEDIEVAL III FUCKING WHEN
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>>144595737
I do
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>>144595727
These streets are cramped and winding, we will earn them in the enemy's blood.
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>>144595737
>I'll bring it up again 3 hours after everyone's done talking about it
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>>144595694
Just roll? >>144594687
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fikki fikki
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>>144596048
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>>144596236
I'm suspicious of this game. How can I trust those round unit cards?
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What a shitshow of a campaign that was, glad I did that VH so I never need to play dwarves for a long time again
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What are the odds of the next TW being revealed at E3? Good odds, or maybe one more year before we see anything?
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>>144596289
What mod is this?
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>>144596638
Probably nothing.
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>>144594687
roolan
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>>144596729
Beginning of the End Times
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>>144596289
Ah, have they found their resolve to stand and fight?
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>>144594687
No Vamps please
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>>144594793
How can Skaven call Eldar?
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>>144596983
Warpstone motherfucker
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>>144596848
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>>144596973
>>144596973
AHAHA ENJOY YOUR SKELLIES
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Skaven when
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>>144597097
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>>144596638
E3 is a fucking console event, anon. I don't think any TW ever got revealed during an E3. And they wouldn't reveal a next game a few weeks after a release anyway.
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>>144597236
HOPEFULLY SOON!!!
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Elves when
I crave waifus
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I wonder how much it hurts for a giant to get hit by trollhammers
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>wait for TWW and think ill buy every dlc cause of the variety
>play TWW and realise I simply dont have the time or enthusiasm to try out every faction

Anyone who missed the early adopter bonus isnt losing a lot tb.h. Unless they really want to play Chaos for some reason.
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>>144597281
The center square is taken, but there is still the matter of a few hundred souls fighting for their lives in the streets.
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>>144597236
>>144592206
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>>144597446
tomorrow
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>>144597609
They are set upon from every side. I give them a heroic last stand, a glorious death.
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DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY WIGHT KINGS SON EVER AGAIN
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>>144598173
Karl the Cuck
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>>144594687
pls no empire I hate playing the overpowered shit

I need archaon
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>>144594283
Middenland, Kislev and Ostland. Even without alliances they consistently bear the brunt of Chaos doomstacks for me.
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What's the most reddit faction in the game?
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>>144597537
>I
>Anyone

You were so close anon.
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>>144598290
good enough
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>>144598307
I can never get Kislev to like me.
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>>144597935
It is finished. With this victory all of Araby is united under my banner.
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>>144598173
how could you afford that army?
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PYGMY RACE WHEN

BLACK PEOPLE NEED REPRESENTATION TOO JUST LIKE WOMEN
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>>144598449
Well, "bro" is perhaps too strong a word. "Meatshield" works better.

Any contenders for worst allies? My money is on any kind of manlet whatsoever. They're eternally drawing you into random wars for no good reason.
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>garrisons don't fight to the last man
Lame
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>>144598472
stop blogging
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So how the fuck do dwarves deal with lords?
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>>144598620
>stop posting TW-related content
You're retarded, even when he's not posting the good version of TWW
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>>144598717
Use lords and heroes
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>>144598717
The answer is always Quarrellers, artillery or blasting charges.
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>>144598717
The same way every faction deals with them. Take your lord and right click on their lord.
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>Awakened Sarl
>Sarl declares war on the stunties
>Join in because stunties are a continent away
>Stunties immediately confederate Karak Kadrin
Uh oh storm of manlets incoming
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>>144598385
Greenskins, theyre basically ghettodindus.
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>>144598717
If it's mounted your lord won't catch up when they rout. If it's not mounted you can usually catch them with the speed boost to get a few more hits in and kill/wound.

Also, 2 units of trollhammer torpedoes absolutely fucking melt enemy lords.
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>>144598620
fuck off retard
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>>144598990
With every other faction I just witchhunter/death magic them
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>>144599074
Pathetic.
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>>144598740
>>144599047
>falling for the bait
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THIS DOES NOT CHEEKI BREEKI
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>>144599021
How the hell does the AI get such easy confederations anyway? I'm sure the AI can confederate even when their power is relatively shit compared to the minor faction.
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>>144599371
>le ebin bait XD
He's just an idiot, that's all
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>>144599371
fuck off retard
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Chaos Knights or Chaos Knight Lances?
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>>144599371
interesting how we never had this level of shitposting here before
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>>144599656
You can get massive confederations of if AI happened to get his army obliterated that turn. Just have to keep an eye on it.
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>>144599959
What are you talking about. The "posting campaign is blogging" meme isn't new.
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>>144598620
THIS SHITPOST DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT.
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Was TW:W successful?

I dunno how to research or check this.
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>Play Dwarves
>Game stagnates with constant tunnel hopping, Quarreller spam, and very little ability to smash Orc stacks because of no cav.
>Regions you can take are spread out all over the place, makes for shitty borders.

>Play Orcs this time.
>Godgor single-handedly fucking everything up.
>Almost unite the entirety of the Orcs.
>When the Waagh! mechanic kicks in I just find myself autoresolving because I dread spending 5-10 minutes waiting for an AI reinforcement horde to finally make a difference in a battle.
>Can't dare have a stack idle when playing Orcs if you want to protect an area, ultimately feels annoying.

>Play as the Empire.
>Definitely enjoyable in the beginning as you unite the Empire under Karl Franz.
>Tons of politics, gameplay doesn't get stagnate much at all unless elector states take your shit when you're warring the same guy.
>Chaos arrives.
>Vampire Cunts strike.
>Corruption mechanics making me want to ragequit before Archaon is even off the boat.

>Play Chaos this time.
>Should have called Archaon the Everbroken with how poor these niggas are.
>Literally the whole Empire+Kislev+Dwarves chasing me in the first 10 turns before I can even think of Awakening the Norscan tribes.

>Bretonnia unlocker mod.
>Enjoy politics without a huge Vampire/Chaos infestation that forces you to invest your entire infrastructure around it.
>All of your units feel pretty solid, despite being so few.
>Flaming swords of light.
>Unite Bretonnia without northernlings/Chaos attacking out of nowhere.
>Actually made it to the point where all of Civilization is united against Archaon.

Man, when is Bretonnia actually going to be released for campaign? These guys are my shit.
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>>144600338
Nah everyone forgot about it. We're all posting screens from the Attila lotr mod
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>he calls himself a TRUE Dawi
>can't even speak basic Khazalid

Kruk, it shames me to share this kronkarak with such skruff ungrimgi.
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>>144600134
It would be great if you could pay off factions to break alliances/trade agreements in diplomacy, but right now there doesn't seem to be anybody scumbag enough to do that in TW:W.
Diplomacy is now just Player vs AI, you can't, for example, do stuff like get the Takeda to fight the Hojo by paying them to break alliances and such.
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>>144600338
>90% of the posts about TWW
>fastest selling TW of all times
>100% of posts on reddit are TWW
Dunno, lol
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>>144599959
How was it like when Rome 2 launched? Curious is all.
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>>144597537
>not playing at least one game with every faction

Also Chaos has the most interesting campaign because of being able to run all over the place and shit on people
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>>144600405
Clearly the most babby friendly starting place. Why don't you just play on easy if you aren't enjoying the other races? I like dealing with the clusterfuck that is empire.
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How does Awakening work?
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>Demigryphs cost 1400
>Grail Knights that are significantly weaker cost 1500
>Chaos lancers cost 1600
why? and even further:
>empire spearmen cost 300
>gobbo spearmen cost 300
fuug
>most offensive spells do nothing
>accuse and death magic drops lords instantly

did CA even play their own game? Even if we leave MP and talk about SP, the way a lot of chaos units are completely redundant due to horde mechanics kinda makes me think they didnt
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>>144600775
Dont bother, its a trap for Chaos players to spend 100 turns in Norsca
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>>144600405
Why haven't you played as Vampire Cutouts yet?
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>>144600405
Vampire Counts are fun with slowly corrupting the neighboring regions and spooky scary skeletons everywhere.

Bretonnia's going to be comfy as fuck
>far away from Chaos (except for some norscan raiders)
>only one vampire faction that can be wiped off the map easily
>Holy Crusading Knights blessed by the Lady
>Putting peasants in their place
>Slaughtering Beastmen once they're released
>having a qt wood elf gf
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>>144600405
Where's the greentext for VC?
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>>144600575
>>144600425
>internet forums dedicated to the franchise talk about the latest entry to it
>this means it's successful

Go home kiddies
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>>144600632
>Rome 2
>matched combat
>piss filter
>zombie faces
>armies need generals
>fake mass
>artificial unit collision
lmao just play shogun 2
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>>144600525
Thaggoraki :^)
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My first attempt at making a new unit did not go as planned.

This is, however, an improvement over the last time I started the game, where the unit didn't show up for purchase in the first place.
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>>144600973
>fastest selling TW of all times

>>144600995
>lmao just play shogun 2
This or TWW
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>>144600525
the dumb ass chair is so retarded, its a massive structure and it has the king fatass on it, so clearly the four poor guys carrying it around are extremely strong, so why use it in battle? just use your short fat legs to carry yourself you lazy fuck and let the four men actually fight

for a society based entirely on buthurt they sure have some demeaning and useless things
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>>144601190
>WEZ HORSSOS
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Yknow, you would think Dorfs would've really loved polearms

They've got reach so you can easily hit the upper body of larger orcs and poke at trolls, and they require little arm movement at all, which helps for a bunch of manlets
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>>144597236
>>144597312

I don't know much about ratbros, what kind of units would you expect to be put in if Skaven get in the game?
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Can one of the modfags here make Steam Tanks into a unit or platoon of maybe 4 models?

Never sat right with me that tanks would operate alone. That's not how to tank.
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>>144601289
Wheel
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What's the most effective way to use Metal wizards?
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>>144601190

>RELEASE THE IMPERIAL HORSES
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>>144601239
He can't get off of that throne, and it's not very comfy.

This ensures that the king of the butthurt gnomes remains the most butthurt of them all.
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>>144601246
>>144601345
They managed to bite the shit out of the Chaos Knights at least. Now I just need to figure out how to give them riders and traits n shit. And actually balance them
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>>144601289
GATRING GUNNU READY SAH
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I think playing Romans in DEI too much has ruined me on these past few Total Wars, I'm too used to having an unbreakable line of very heavy infantry that I can hammer and anvil at will.There is much less margin for error for the squishier basic troops of every other factions.

Now I understand why Rome conquered the world...
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>>144601190
undead armor units when
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>>144601289
>gatling guns
>sniper teams
>mass rat-peasant infantry
>big wheel-things that shoot lightning
>artillery that shoots bigger lightning
>varghulf-like rat ogres
>fill in the rest with stormvermin
>your army routes within the first 15 seconds after they blow themselves up
>the enemy routes 45 seconds later
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>>144600338
You can type warhammer total war sales into google and that will fucking help.

It's the fastest selling Total War game ever.
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>>144601375
>He can't get off of that throne
wait you mean he is always on it? how does he do basic things like eating, washing and such?
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>>144601204
>fantasyshit
Stick to the classics. Play Shogun 2.
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>>144601375
I'm pretty sure he can get off, he just can't sit on anything but the throne
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>>144601449
I hope they add these crazy fuckers
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>>144601313
There's only like eight in existence
>>144601289
Rat-Ogres(troll equivalent), Skavenslaves(weaker than zombies chaff), Stormvermin(elite dudes), Clanrats(shitty infantry), Warplock Jezzails(gunners), Doomwheels(RANDOM WHEEL OF DEATH LIGHTNING AND EXPLOSIONS), Warp Lightning cannon(shoots death lightning), Grey Seer(wizard with unique magic), Gutter Runners(shitty stealth infantry), Ratling Gun(it's a Gatling gun that shoots magic death bullets), Plague Monks(very killy elite infantry)
>>144601342
Using their passive buff and plague of rust
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>>144601651
>Shogun 2.
That's not how you pronounce Medieval 2
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>>144600338
>Total War: Warhammer
>Good
It was awful. No one plays it
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>>144601514
we had a long discussion about if their was a poopchute or something installed on that thing back in the day. Turns out he probably does get off to do shit when nobody is looking.
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>>144601824
I hope not. They were stupid, OP, and didn't fit the army.
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>>144601906
>There's only like eight in existence
Why does this matter when the game lets you have a full stack
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>>144601375
>He can't get off of that throne, and it's not very comfy.

Yes he can, the only rule is that any time he wants to sit he must be sitting on the throne

He could stand and fight but instead hes a lazy fuck
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>>144601824
>mfw people think lords getting sniped by accuse is bad
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is Stop Blogposter still here? I hope so

what the fuck is it with these siege breakout maps in Napoleon? I try and seige a city, the AI attempts a breakout, and I get this amazing map to defend myself with
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>>144601824
When the fuck was this added into the game? I see that GW's recent trend of shitty out of place design has carried over from 40k.
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>>144601289
I hope for
>Lords
Skaven Warlord
Grey Seer

>Heroes
Plague Priest
Eshin Assassin
Warlock Engineer

>Infantry
Skaven Slaves (like Gobbos, complete shit and rout immediately)
Clanrats (normal infantry)
Gutter Runners (sneaky infantry)
Plague Monks (poisonous infantry)
Stormvermin (elite infantry)

>Ranged Infantry
Warplock Jezzails
Rattling Guns
Warpfire Throwers
Poisoned Wind Globadiers

>Montrous/Monsters
Giant Rats
Rat Ogres
Hellpit Abomination

>Artillery/Warmachines
Poisoned Wind Mortar
Screaming Bell
Plague Furnace
Warp Lightning Cannon
DOOMWHEELS!!!


Hoping for rebellions in regions and betrayals of generals all the time, most of the time Skaven should fight Skaven!
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>>144602361
forgot pic M80's
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>>144601824
I hope they don't, pure 2kewl epick newfantasy cancer
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Vampiric corruption is honestly such a meme and it's making me not even want to play Vampires despite loving their units.
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This is gonna be a beatiful fuckin mess
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Why are fanatics sooo useless?
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>Arkhan is LL
>His entire questline is to awaken Nagash

post >yfw
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>>144602456
From what I've read, it sounds like Skaven are good at overwhelming people with large numbers. It would be cool if they added something along the lines of Skaven Slaves only taking up 1/2 a unit slot so you could overwhelm people with little memers.

I don't know how this would work in practice though.
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>>144603043
VC is a long slow slog compared to the lategame steamroll of other races, especially if you build your army around flying monsters.
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>install Rome 2
>click on general
>go into combat
>had forgotten that the general units don't have any distinguishing marks
>they're just boosted up units
>mfw

I had forgotten how dull Rome 2 was in this regard.
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>>144600134
the weaker they are the more likely they are to confederate, especially if a strong enemy starts attacking them.
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>>144603304
I liked the Empire because it started off slow while I built up a big bank and a ton of cash, then I made a few really powerful armies and obliterated everyone. It feels like even with super strong units and high tech I'll capture someone then sit there for several turns slowly building up corruption until I can go to the next person.
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>>144603184
>Skaven are good at overwhelming people with large numbers
Pretty much this, yeah.
Assassinating key targets with the best assassins in the game, swarming the enemy with superior numbers but shit quality and destroying the whole battlefield with the strongest artillery by far (which normally ends up with killing half your and your enemies army)
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>>144590480
anon you genius,thanks so much. don't ask why but I was trying to insert the weapon variants in the unit tables.

so with that horrifying issue finally resolved, MOUSILLON STATUS-ALMOST HAPPENING
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>>144603453
Yeah, that has been my experience as well. That said, it's not impossible to blitzkrieg, but it's dependent on your enemy being tied up by someone else.

Fortunately for me, the Empire is being ravaged by Norsca and Chaos, who I conveniently neglected to deal with, while the Dorfs are stuck in a war with the Greenskins that has lasted some 50 turns with no substantial change in their borders.
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>>144603080
fuckin WEW
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>irondrakes have no beards

How awful
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>>144601964
Ignore him fampai
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>>144603651
It's such a shame because units like Hexwraiths, and most of the monsters are just so interesting. I love the idea of no archers or artillery but time spent on the map is just a snooze fest.
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>>144603713
SHAMEFUR DISPRAY
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>>144603713
In the book it goes!
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>>144603842
It's also why I dislike your inability to get other factions to break alliances for money. If I could have provoked a war between Middenland and the Empire, I'd have ensured that the fuckers stayed confined to Bretonnia and facing down Bordeleaux. But no, Archaon the Animechosen means Bordeleaux and Marienburg are perfectly happy to let Karl "Leouncour-killer" Franz ally with them while I get thrown by the wayside as VC.

If we could just get them to break alliances and fight each other, then we could just roll in when they've wasted their stacks on each other and claim the lot. But as it stands we have to do it the old-fashioned way.
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>>144603372
>just boosted up units
you wouldn't like Attila, most generals are actually weaker than a regular unit of that tier
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>>144603184
Just make slave units have bigger numbers per unit then it being a half unitcard
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>>144603963
It's called Warhammer, not Bribehammer.
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>>144603080
>>144603693
ARE YOU A GOD?
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>>144603974

I played Attila a lot, and I don't like that fact either. I don't know why they detest just putting back the Shogun 2 way of how Generals work.
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>>144604027
Fair enough, all that means is that the 2K gold that would have gone to breaking the alliance is going straight into a 5th stack.
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What if CA increased army size to 32 and buffed all monster units,artillery and flying units and made them take 2 unit slots
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>>144604030
you know it bby

I think we're gonna be okay
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>>144603985
That's kind of what they did with goblins and they're still useless pieces of shit. I want to feel like I'm just completely overwhelming the enemy with ludicrous numbers of shitters.
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>>144604071
They were also pissweak in that, except if you went all in on the warrior tree, and if you did you'd still get your shit handed to you by a guy wielding a stool and two bow ashigaru.
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>>144604191
Imo gobbos should have more per unit then they currently do
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>Download Blood Knights mod for some cool powerful late game cavalry
>Blood Knight infantry is the most broken thing in existence
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I've killed all the campaign posters
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>>144604249

But they were unique. Either they could buff up the units, or they could become monsters themselves.
But they had unique looks and animations. I just want that.
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>>144603517
Skaven artillery is only the best in the sense that it's the most destructive.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>144601437
Well that's one more step completed
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Trollhammers are grossly underrated, these fuckers obliterate large units
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How the fuck do I orc? I lost my first campaign ever as them. They're so terrible and keep getting raped by dwarves
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>>144595028

Monsters and Artillery scale with unit size
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>>144604416
One way or another, yes.
Will be pretty fun to have >500 kills with Skaven artillery where more than half of that being your own guys!
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>>144594118
Whats with all these TATW OP?
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>>144604565

Grimgor, big uns, and boar cavalry
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>>144604191
>>144604257
they should have like 200 or 240 man per unit, 160 is not enough
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>>144604329
Im gonna post a campaign
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>>144604329

>>144604151
>>144603693
>>144603080
missed a spot bby

we did it frenchies
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>>144603713
I should have known the guys with the fancy helms were fucking posers.

Bet they've never eaten a rock and shat out a diamond either.
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>tfw can't embed Karl Franz in a unit of Greatswords that have been equipped with unit buffs out the ass to create an uber-Liebstandarte that can take on entire armies by itself
Why does CA hate fun?
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>>144604278
That's how it should be, Blood Knights should be far more expensive and stronger than Demigryphs. They're the best cavalry in the whole fantasy universe
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>>144604749
Big uns? I thought they were poop
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>>144604821
>Frogs

P R U S S I A
R
U
S
S
I
A
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>>144604278
ikr

Literally the only thing that can shut them down is greatswords
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>>144604943

Who told you that?
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>>144605010
someone in an earlier thread
I rushed for a black orc army and got steamrolled by dwarfs.
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>>144604278

>Downloading casual mod
>Complaining it casualizes the game
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>>144604654
See that's the brilliance of the Skaven tactics.
It doesn't matter if 2000 of your guys and 100 of them, if there were only 100 of them and 2001 of you.
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>>144604929
I'm referring to the infantry specifically though. Armored/Shielded, Melee Experts with Regeneration, 110 armor, 8500 health. They're cool as fuck and I like them a lot but it's nutso how powerful they are.

>>144605108
>complaining

End your life.
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>>144594241
>You will never be Morathi mounted by Sulaphet.
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>>144605079

Black orcs are expensive, you need numbers on your side with Greenskins
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>>144604947
>Krauts
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
VIVE LA FRANCE
what mod?


Glad I won but given the position I had Im sure a better player could have won with fewer deaths. One cannon crew got 958 kills with no deaths tho
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>>144600575
>reddit

Go back there. Your type always brings over a cancerous mentality.
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>>144600847
This
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>>144605215
alright. Should I make Grimgor a pure melee monster or a buff the grunts kind of dude?
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>>144605217
I haven't played Napoopan in a while but I play with the LME mod
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>>144605374

Melee monster
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>>144603557
Hey, is it possible to have the cloaks more torn/have more dirt? The Vampire Lord's cloak especially, it's a bit too clean
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>>144603557
I love you motherfucker
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>>144605425
Thanks. ill report later if I break down again screaming
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>>144605374
Grimgor can literally end fights on his own if you go full melee monster.

Archeon is his bitch.
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>>144605561
Meanwhile Grimgor gets literally shit on by Kholek
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>>144602168
Its not like numbers really matter in lore
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>>144605391
>11k troops
fucking christ


They're trying one more breakout, at about a third of their previous strenth and without guns. Let's see if I can win with just cannons!

Is napoopan the most accurate to life portrayal of it's eras battles?
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>>144604821
>>144604947
>>144604987
>>144605217
stop blogging
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My Wood Elves wishlist

>Characters
probably Orion and Durthu or some madeup Elf Highborn

>army characteristics
The player can see through forests. His territories are forests- they have a "forested" quality like vampiric/chaotic corruption, all conquered provinces become heavily forested. Not forested enough = low public order. Enemies move slower in WE territory. WE get major bonus to ambush depending on forestyness

>Lords
Highborne (mount-> steed -> great stag -> eagle -> forest dragon)
Spellweaver

>Heroes
Noble
Spellsinger
Branchwraith
Treeman Ancient

>Infantry
Eternal Guard (spearelves)
Glade Guard
Scouts
Dryads
Wildwood Rangers (great weapon elves in light armor)
War Dancers

>Cavalry
Glade Riders (Light cav + shooting)
Wild Riders (ride stags)
Warhawk Riders (flying cav with shooting)

>Monsters
Treemen
Tree Kin
Great Eagles

No heavy infantry OR heavy cavalry. No war machines. No slow units.
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>>144600405

>Can't dare have a stack idle when playing Orcs if you want to protect an area, ultimately feels annoying.


Not even remotely true. If anything the infighting is underwhelming. Your fightiness gets too low, you let them fight for a turn, hop into a city for a single turn and you're fine for 4-5 more turns until you may need to do it again.
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>>144605692
>Grimgor gets literally shit on by Kholek

was playing multiplayer battle with friend new to the game, saw kholek and his power

asked if he was able to play

he was, he said he must be OP then

he was right, he was OP, nerf when?
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>>144605692
Indeed, that's what happened when Grimgor pulls your heart out through your anus with his teeth.
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>>144605858
Good try to be witty Grimshitter, but big bad Kholek is too stronk for you :^)
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>>144605767
Aren't Treeman Ancients lords?
But yes, that would be great!
Bretonnia, Wood Elves, Beastmen and Skaven when???
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>>144605737
LITTLE

WHITE

SARDINES
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>>144605904
A few cannonballs end Kholek Shiteater in no time.
Try again chaos cuck, can't beat faith, steel and gunpowder!
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>>144606026
Nice try moving the goalposts, this is about Grimgor getting smacked like a fly by Kholek
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>>144605737
In all my time in Napoopan I don't think I've ever gotten heights that extreme in a battle map.
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>>144604278
>>144604929
>>144604987

They're basically overpowered in everything they exist in, which is probably why CA stuck to only Black Knights. You can't do Blood Dragons justice without having them smear shit all over every other unit in the game, and that isn't very interesting.

>For an example of uninteresting units that shit on everything and how they make the game boring, see : Demigryphs
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>>144606116
I'm not the greenshitter though :^)
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>>144605905
whoops urrite

perhaps scrap treeman ancients and add the Alter Kindred as a hero (elves pretty much mutated by the magical forest spirit into semi-beasts), or a Waywatcher Hero
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>>144606125
>>144606125
Really? Weird. Im getting all the time, is it a Darthmod thing?

Are maps randomly generated?

How many napoopan hours you got anyway?

Love that map btw, I might try LME just for that. Are the sounds as good as Darthmod?
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Do you guys use the melee expert heroes in your army?

I had a lot of success with a high-level Exalted Hero on a Manticore, but I'd like to hear what your experiences are with Captains, Wight Kings, Thanes, whatevs.
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>>144601651
Nobody wants to play Shogun 2, it's boring and repetitive.
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>>144605904
Alas, it is not so.

It's actually a bit boring to fully upgrade Grimgor, because you barely need to play anymore.
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>>144606249
And I'm not the kholekshitter :^)
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>>144598290
>someone saved my screenshot

That attempt at a Chaos campaign did give me some good screenshots.
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>>144606338
>>144606249

Your both faggots :^)
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>>144605740
last warning bud
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>>144606335
Nice meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GdZYHrna4U
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>>144606219
Blood dragons ≠ Blood Knights.
Blood Dragons are a bloodline like von Carstein or Strigoi
Blood Knights are vampiric ultra-heavy cavalry
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>>144605535
Don't worry friend, we'll always be here for you. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions <3
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>>144606314
My Exalted Hero on the Manticore was really fucking good and had a Wight King that killed heroes and lords like nothing.
Empire Captains, dunno. Mostly using Wizards and Warriors Priests to heal my troops from nearly dead back to full in a turn.
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>>144600814

Demigryph knights have an income over 200 you goober
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>>144605767
Is there a way to order a shooting unit to charge with its melee weapons? I feel like thats necessary for Warhawks and Glade Riders which are both shooting and charging units
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Can someone explain Von Carstein?Who was the first one?Do they have a leaders?Do they ever fight each other?Do their peasants know they are vampires?
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Is this a good entry point into the series and does it do a good job of explaining what to do? Call me retarded but i tried getting into Shogun 2 a couple times in the past and just had no clue what i was doing.
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>>144606453
Blood Knights are Blood (Dragon) Knights.
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>>144606297
I can't say, I haven't tried Darthmod for Napoopan.

I have 75 hours on Napoleon on Steam (most of it in that Prussia campaign) but I've probably got at least 100 extra since I pirated it before I bought it.
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Turn 43

Greenskins are getting absolutely asspounded, what does everyone have so much trouble with with dorfs? Serious question I want to know if I just got lucky (or i'm just gud) or is this not the hard part
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>>144606640
Hold Alt when right clicking my newfriend
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>>144606640
Hold Alt and click a unit, that forces the unit to attack in melee (also I think F locks a unit into only using melee attacks)
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>>144606643

>First one
Vlad
>Leaders
Yes
>Do they infight
Yes
>Do peasants know
Yes
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>>144594687
Rollan
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>>144606643
Vlad or Konrad, I can't remember who. yea their peasants are aware. yea they got leaders, I don't think they fight each other.

are any of the other vamp players here a little disapointed we werent allowed to choose what bloodline we played as? I know in the lore it was only the Von Carsteins that did anything big but still would have been cool. at least let us choose what bloodline our lords are.
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>>144606453
>>144606703
blood dragons are an order of blood knights
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>>144606725
I suppose people are just not used to not having cav or something. Dwarves are by far the easiest campaign.
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>>144594687
Finished Chaos
Empire nearly finished
What now?
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>>144606643
The first vampire count and founder of Sylvania was Vlad von Carstein, who founded the bloodline. His descendents are the "vampire counts" who are the leaders of the counties of sylvania, who do fight amongst each other sometimes
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>>144606865
Rise of the Midnight Aristocracy next!
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>>144606845

The Order of the Blood Dragon IS the Blood Knights.

It's in the army book and everything.
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>>144606710
We should play sometime mang, I love this game. Might even be my fav total war.

That last breakout attempt was just depressing. 1000 enemy deaths to my 14, and roughly half of that was friendly fire on my part.
Now here's the question; do I take the city now and defend it against their reinforcements, or do I let them attempt another breakout in the hopes I'll get to fight on the hilltop map a third time?
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>>144606850
>50% quarrelers
>50% warriors
>engage enemy with warrior line
>destroy and cavalry or ranged units with quarrelers, then destroy either archers or focus fire melee squads one by one so warriors can move into enemy ranks and flank enemy infantry
I kind of preferred playing as VC desu, with all their flying units and black knights, but it is pretty fun to watch a gobbo squad get turned into a field of pincushions

>>144606865
I've played dorfs, empire and VC, VC is my favourite so far
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>>144606845
Other way around
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>plan to entangle superior force in my pike squares and then wrap around with my handgunners, who are hidden
>cheating AI ruins plan

The gunners and cannon were all on hold fire mode, too.

REEEE
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>>144607229
Yesterday I was fighting a battle as Chaos and hid some marauder horsemen in the woods pretty much on the other side of the battle. The enemy cavalry rushed them as soon as the battle started and went back to their army as soon as they withdrawed. This has to be a bug.
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>>144607092
>VC is my favourite so far
Good to know, lots of spookies and vampiric corruption sounds fun.
Also vampire qt
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>play Uesugi in Shogun 2
>get annoyed at his armor

Does anyone actually know why he's not wearing his trademark armor? One of the primary reasons why he was so successful was how easily recognizable Uesugi Kenshi's armor was from a distance, and how it inspired fear in the enemy.
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>>144606440

The only reason Grimgor loses to Kholek is because Kholek's attack has a massive knockback/stun to them. I mean for fuck sake, he can stunlock Sarothal to death as well.
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>>144594118
I need a Rome II mod for god mode or infinite movement or something as a city is about to be buttfucked because the AI is launching a suicidal charge to take me down with them in the last leg of our war.
That or how i can use console commands like every other total war game.
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>>144606845
>The Blood Knights were once an honorable brotherhood of Imperial Knights that had dedicated their lives to protecting the lands just west of the Imperial province of Wissenland. However, after their horrific transformation into Vampires, these once noble Knights have since become the bearers of the unholy blood of the Blood Dragon bloodline. This transformation came about when an unexpected visitor demanded entrance into the confines of Blood Keep in the Imperial year of 1887. This man held the name of Walach Harkon, a student of the Vampire Firstborn Abhorash himself. In one single night, Walach Harkon had personally dueled and slain every single member of the original Knights of the Blood Dragons, and turn those he deemed worthy into Vampires.

they are one and the same
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>>144606417
sorry
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>>144607229
jesus christ man just disband that army entirely and build units that aren't shit. I got to turn 30 in my campaign and had a full army of shielded spearmen/swords/halberds/knights/crossbows.

those spearmen are complete garbage.
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>>144607229
>Ennemies has a shitload of fast cav perfect for flanking
>Let's hide weak ranged units far from the main force

IT's like you asked for it.
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>>144606374
CA needs to fix replays, I cant pause zoom in and look at stuff/take screens because legendary, and replays are fucking retarded, with reinforcements deploying in different places and battles going completely differently
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>>144607497
Good job repeating what the video says
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>>144607603

I didn't listen to it, nor watch it. I already know Kholek wins because of that one reason.
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>>144607523
git gud
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>>144607663
Whats the point of your post then
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>>144607589
God damn it, really? I saved a bunch of replays in Warhammer because I was pretty damn proud of how I was doing in my battles. Fuck.
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>>144607553
>he doesn't penny-pinch
Why build good units when cheap ones do the job? I can have like 7 stacks of these fuckers instead of having 3 meme armies of nothing but Greats and Demigryphs.

>shield
I ain't fucking paying for that. They can bring their own shields if they love em so much.

>>144607581
HIDE being the operative word.
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>>144607756

To discuss what was posted, clearly.
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>>144607691
i don't want to lose a battle. I've busted balls for so long and now some nobodies are going to ruin my streak of autistic perfection.
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>>144607812
But you didn't see what was posted
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>>144607581
Still sucks that the AI sees hidden units.
Not the guy who's gunners got rekt but hiding cavalry in forests always leads to the AI luckily :^) sending spears or halberds in their direction
>>
Would love to dress up in girls clothes.
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>>144607904
If you're a qt, do it and post pics
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>>144600304
Left click to Z O O M O N
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>>144607229
I don't think the AI can see hidden units since I've used the old forest flankers trick plenty of times.

They just sent that force to flank you since it's all cav units, it was a coincidence.
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Started to purge the french fucks, feels good
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Guys I'm really sorry I reply with stop blogging

I'm a sad neet with no friends who gets slight happiness from others misery, please accept my apologies /twg/, I look forward to being a constructive and positive member of this community

Sincerely,

Threadshitting anon
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>>144608119
You're doing Sigmars work, son!
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>>144608061
I've used forest flankers plenty of times too, but this was no coincidence. The AI wasn't flanking, it was directly charging my units. I wouldn't be surprised if there was literally just a "see hidden units" diceroll for the AI to give the illusion that it sometimes finds you and sometimes doesn't.
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>>144608146
Dear Anonymous,

>

With Love,
Anonymous
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>>144608146
stop shitting this thread up with your shitty bait you shitting threadshitter, I hope you drown in your own shit fucking shitheaded threadshitter
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>>144607849

Because seeing what I already know is pointless. The message behind the post, being
>"gimgor can't make you win every single fight like you imply"
to which the link was posted.

Why are we even having this inane argument? Why aren't we talking about Kholek and Grimgor instead?
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>>144608278
Because the point is made that Grimgor gets shit on by Kholek which le epic orc fags cant accept
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>>144607895
Yeah true. Seems like it's the same thing for ambush stance on the campaign map.
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>>144607790
one stack vs one stack are the least buggy ones, but when you have multiple stacks fighting it can go any way really, the game only remembers the movement orders, the actual fighting can go either way, so a pyrhic victory might end up being a valiant defeat
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I LOVE THE DESIGN OF THE VAMPIRE COUNTS SO FUCKING MUCH

THEIR UNITS ARE SO FUCKING AWESOME AND FUN TO USE BUT I FUCKING HATE CORRUPTION

AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
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>>144608335
I still don't get how ambushes work in TWW, I have a X% chance on the map that the ambush succeeds, mostly I'm discovered before, sometimes I intercept the army but the ambush fails and I never got an ambush to actually work yet...
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>>144608416
Corruption is fun, finally a faction that prevents zerging the map and rewards for slow expanding.
I love it!
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>>144608476
I won the long campaign in VH with all factions and I had lik 4 ambush battles in total. And that's including the ambush quest battles.
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>a game from 2011, created by CA's B-team has individualized combat animations
>brand new game with massive backing behind it from several companies don't
>it only has jump into the air and do really silly swings and shockwaves because they don't know how to motion capture fighting multiple people at once
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>>144608557
I get where you're coming and I like the idea of it, but it just feels like it spreads to slowly.

Any tips for fast spreading that I may be unaware of? I know that Vampire's are decent at spreading but it takes a decent amount of time to get more than 1 of them.

I rushed the spreading technology but I guess I could have put the spreading building in all my provinces. Is it worth doing that?
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>>144608585
>people just didn't shut up about matched combat and how shit it is
>CA removes it
>wah wah where's matched combat, it was so gud
modern gamers should be gassed
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>>144608659
>I could have put the spreading building in all my provinces
Fucking retard, make sure to have at least one in each province.
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>>144608713

Literally nobody complained about matched combat.
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>>144608659
I always put the corruption buildings in every single region, it's fighting chaos corruption, corruption neighboring provinces and keeps public order high.
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This is a battle that I had about 5% chance of winning with Autoresolve.

Easiest fight of my life. It was a defensive siege.
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>>144608758
>Literally nobody complained about matched combat.

Man, I got things to tell you about people praising M2 combat and bitching about matched combat in every Warscape game except for Shogun 2.
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>>144608659
DEFINITELY put one of those buildings in each province. I mean, you might as well, it's not like you really need anything else so desperately you can't spare a slot for one. I'm pretty sure every character you have spreads corruption too, even if they're not fantastic at it, so if you really want to corrupt a particular region (you should usually before you take it over so you don't get massive public order penalties) stick all your dudes there. Usually not necessary, but if you really want to take over something cos it has a goldmine in it or whatever, it's helpful.
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>>144608585
>a game from 2011, created by CA's B-team has individualized combat animations
I remember when people said this was a negative
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>>144608659
I didn't build that many spreading buildings, I had a larger problem with public order and mainly built that building and walls/corpse piles.

If you can take attrition for a turn just expand by going to the nearby towns. Otherwise, send in some agents a couple of turns beforehand, they are really good at spreading corruption
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>>144609071
The problem for me is that if I take a settlement without fully corrupting it, the lack of corruption absolutely shits on my public order. When I fucked up the Border Princes to give myself a base near the Greenskin I had to sit there for 10-15 turns babying it and fighting rebellions.
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>>144608119
Why are the Chaos Gods always laughing? What's so funny?
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>>144608831
DEFENSIVE SIEGE HOW THE FUCK DID YOU PULL THAT ONE OFF

i have 80 hours in this shit and never got to defend
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>>144608758
>No one complained about matched combat
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>>144608831
>2000 defenders
Nigger this is not even worth mentioning
You can beat at least two full norscan stacks with lvl 2 wall in a minor settlement and upgraded capitals are virtually invulnerable
Their army composition doesn't help, usually it's 6 units of infantry and the rest is horses and dogs and chaos spawns who'll get fucked by ranged and then halberdiers can kill them at the gate
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>>144609213
I had it a couple of times from rebels
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>>144609213
Had a stack garrisoned in Marienberg under siege. I didn't have any forces to relieve them, so after like 7 turns they attacked me with 3 battering rams (>mfw the walls only had one gate) and 4 siege towers.
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>half of varg's army is warhounds
>so his army is better than mine

This is fucking retarded
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>>144605767
>tfw making tree only armies
Who here taking down isengard?
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>>144609337
I'm not bragging about how great I did, I'm talking about how fucking retarded the auto-resolve odds were.

Read before posting.
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>>144609306

>lets meme reaction image things papa furanku is da best xD

Nobody who mattered, or actually had any clue about the total war games complained about matched combat.
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>>144608758
every single nostalgiafag complained about it nonstop
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>>144609213
1. Play Empire
2. Conquer Marienburg
3. Better build walls because you'll be seeing 4 stacks of raiders every 20 turns until you finish the game
On Very Hard, at least. I assume AI won't have enough money for 4 full stacks on hard and on normal it can't manage economy for shit
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>>144609498
This shitposting is on a whole new level

Many men will take this bait.
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>>144608758
>Literally nobody complained about matched combat.
Maybe not in Shogun 2 where people just excused it with 'muh atmosphere muh ebin samurai duels', but people definitely did for Rome 2 and Attila.
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>>144609498
Let me guess
Shogun 2 was your first TW
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>finish the game
>Get a pop up message, you won the game but the war continues

What war? I killed everyone.

That was disappointing I expected a cinematic or something grand for finishing the game and bringing the End Times.

This is the last Total War Game I am buying.
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>>144609176
Yes that's pretty much how it went down for me too, but I kept my lord close and invaded adjascent regions and could pull him back if necessary. Meanwhile I upped the garrisons in case of rebels, took away taxes and increased public order in that province
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>>144609541
lvl2 norskan port gives +1200 gold, which considering that their stacks are made up of extremely cheap norska units means that the port income alone is enough to support 1 full stack, thats why they can shit out one stack after anot
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>less than a couple dozen arrows has destroyed a third of a giant metal dwarf siege tower
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>>144609640

There's been no ending cinematic in the games since Shogun 2, so, I'll see you on the next installment.
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>>144609498
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>>144594793
How did this really go?
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I can play almost any loud game for hours, but TW:Warhammer makes my ears bleed with the end turn/confirmation box sounds. They are so freaking loud and penetrating.

Is there any way to specifically turn them down alone?
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>>144609745
electric boogaloo

the dwarves don't seem to have an animation for running up into siege towers, they do this weird crouch with head bowed pose and then fucking slide up like an overpowered magnetic escalator

do dwarves have secret magnetic boots in warhammer
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>>144609658
>1200
wew that's some bullshit
It's like -40% upkeep +40% income on VH is not good enough
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>>144609903
Which faction? I didn't even pay attention to it for vamps and dawi but empire's is pretty bad. Haven't tried the other two yet.
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>>144609903
Oh god yeah I know this feeling.
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>>144609752
akshully Attila had one, it was just the same for every faction, the only thing that changed was music and the guys model

>>144609903
it is pretty loud, just turn down effects volume in the settings
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>>144607420
Get the mod for unique generals
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>>144610438

I tried to find one like that, but couldn't find anything that actually made them unique beyond lmao a different helmet ecksdee.

Link, if you would be so kind?
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Will we ever be able to import models into Warhams? I think CA/GW will never let this happens.
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>>144610561
I think they eventually allowed it for Shogun 2 but only after they stopped releasing DLC.
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what are some units to avoid using as dwarfs?
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>>144610480
Should be this one, has a bunch of different versions but pics are broken, links should be fine. The same mod should be a part of darthmod.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?540561-Daimyos-amp-Generals-MOD-%28updated-feb-26-2016-reupload%29
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does anyone elses game fuck up when you alt tab out of it during a loading screen?
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>>144610680
All except for Longbeards, Ironbreakers, Quarrellers and Grudge Throwers
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>>144609752
>so, I'll see you on the next installment.

Nope.

I don't play games that offers no incentives for me beating it. Especially when it becomes quite a drag in the lategame/endgame.
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>>144610775
Happened to me twice, but most of the time it works fine
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>>144610826
bye, don't let the door hit your fine ass on the way out, champ
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>>144610680
>just fucking don't
gyrocopters

>they have their uses but generally not very good and you have better alternatives
hammerers
slayers
Irondrakes
Miners
every artillery except grudge throwers

>good only until you unlock higher tier units
charge miners, warriors, longbeards
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if the lizard men are so good why don't they ally humans
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>>144610879
No, I'll sit here and complain about the game to warn others that their 20+ hour playthroughs amount to nothing in the end.

All the built up hype from the opening scene, the Lord of Change, the quests all led to NOTHING.
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NAGASH WAS WEAK

WITNESS TRUE POWER

Is mannfred insecure?
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>>144610775
Tick the windowed box for borderless window, should fix any tabbing issues.
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>get a special mount achievement while playing as Dwarfs
?
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>>144610775
It won't let you in again until it's finished loading.
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>>144611035
‘Vlad told me to pick a side, and I have, master. Better to be the right hand of anarchy, than the slave of Nagash. Walach was right, the blood-soaked fool. Aye, and Kemmler as well. You are nothing but a disease, Nagash… a plague on all the world, and with this power, I shall drive your midnight soul into the void forever. And it shall be me who rules this world, and rides its corpse into eternity. The world shall have a new Undying King, and you shall be forgotten!’

I think you mean BASED.
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>>144611035
>Is mannfred insecure?
Yes, he fucked the world over in the End Times because he didn't get enough attention.
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>>144610775
Just use borderless windowed
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>>144608585
Maybe because there's only one model to work on for Shogun 2 ( human_body#1 )

Meanwhile, with warhammer, you would make animations for human vs human, human vs orc, human vs dwarf, human vs monster 1, etc...
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>>144611252
>he didn't get enough attention.

You mean he fucked over the guys who tried to fuck him. Remember that Nagash, after enslaving him, sold him out and framed him for the death of the Everchild.
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>>144610972
Do you only enjoy games that give you a cute cutscene and dramatic voice-over at the end telling you how you good you are for winning? I mean, don't get me wrong, the end-game does drag out once you reach the point of inevitable victory and are essentially just cleaning up for the last 20 turns or so, and it actually would be nice if there was some sort of epilogue even if it was just a 30 second cutscene with shots of, for example, Dwarves all standing around looking tough and victorious, having feasts and shit, giant dwarf armies with gyrocopters marching around, and a shot of the faction leader doing something appropriate, like Grudgebearer sitting on his throne and then he shuts the book of grudges or some shit and it cuts to black. And over all this it's saying how there's a new age of united Dwarfs, chaos has been beaten back, Greenskin scum wiped off the continent, grudges settled until the Dwarfs find something else to be miffed about. It would be nice, but also, I'm pretty sure most people don't care that much, me included. Like, the 50 hours of fun I had playing my Empire campaign wasn't ruined because I didn't get to watch a short video at the end telling me I won the game.
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>>144611035
He's butthurt because Franz never summons him
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>skaven still not announced
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>>144610917
>they have their uses
>slayers
Dying is not a legit use
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>>144610709

Ohh, I thought you were commenting on a previous post I made about Rome 2's generals.

Yeah, half the links in that thread don't work anymore and nobody can get a hold of the creator, so the only way to use this mod, is that someone either reuploads all the files again or darthmod. And I don't like my battles taking an hour and twenty minutes for a skirmish between 2 ashigaru units so I tend to avoid Darthmod.
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>>144611250
>FIRST PART OF SENTENCE COMMA SECOND HALF OF SENTENCE
Jesus Christ. Vary your sentence structure, Mannfred. Otherwise you sound like a retard.
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>>144611252
What did he do again?
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Do the -15% recruitment cost and +3 unit experience skills stack if you have multiple heroes with them in the same province?
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>>144611351
I like my games to have some decent closure. I wanted to see a description of what I have accomplished. When I got a single line telling me "A WINRAR IS YOU" like some cheap ass DoS game, that broke my immersion so hard that it left me disgusted.

Where was the apocalypse that I worked hard to usher?

This is Warhammer. It shouldn't end with less than a whimper.
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THE SLAYER IN ME SEEKS DEATH
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>>144611490
Check the last pages in the thread, there should be alternative links that got uploaded more recently, a lot of S2 mods suffer from that. Otherwise you have darthmods, as said, I don't remember battles taking that long but a lot of time went by since last I played.
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>turn 60 as chaos
>imperial armies are already swarming into norsca

Is it because I subjugated all the tribes? Is that the cause of this strange magnetism?
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My vampire waifu hates the false Empire!
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>>144610826
>I don't play games that offers no incentives for me beating it.

Total War games have always been about the journey, not the destination. The battles leading up towards the finale, the hijinks happening in battle and when you beat outnumbering odds in defense. Story has always had a very minor part in the series, and how do you close out a game that has no real story? You don't, except give a very vague and very base "this is what happened, you won, you are winrar".

Don't think about the end, think of it as a series. Spartacus Blood and Sand had a great battle at the end of the series, but it left on a very hollow note - as was intended.
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So, is there a mod to make it so armies can't initiate battles from forced march? One of the biggest mistakes in TWW from previous games in terms of battles on the campaign map.

>chasing down shitty ass armies across the map because LmAO CANT CATCH ME
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>>144611705
No
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So in the not-shit lore AKA before the End Times are people aware that Sylvania is ruled by Vampires and the dead are risen there? Or is it more along the lines of rumors and spooky stories to the outside world with Sylvanian peasants occasionally seeing a skeleton walking around but the real crazy undead stuff being kept out of the public view?

Just kind of wondering how aware people are of whats going on in Vampireland
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>>144611250
>>144611252

>literally walk around with impaled heads on his armor

He must smell so bad, and that's coming from someone who worked at a crematorium for 4 years.

I had to throw away all my old clothes, because they smelled like literal death. The stench never really leaves your hands either.
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>>144611864
This is what agents are for.
You can 'block army' to harshly cut their movement distance.
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>>144611250
>>144611252
whats the lore behind mannfred ending the end times
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Need more ideas on what unit to do 1 - 3 stacks of and siege with. I was thinking dogs, but that might be too easy since they bring down gates in but a few seconds.
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How the fuck do i deal with Top Knots as greenskins? They've already steamrolled all southern tribes and moved their borders up to Iron Rock. I can barely get by with 1,5 stacks of my shitty units, while all of the Top Knots wild boys are supperior to mine regular boyz. And i still have remenants of main Dwarf faction holding up in Karak Kadrin.
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>>144612235
Zombros
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>>144611934
Did you guys ever fuck with the bodies?
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>>144598558
they already added orcs desu
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>>144612312

Already been done to death, it's not particularly fun. You either win because the fear effect stacks and you just push through sheer force, and spamming raise dead - or you lose because there's no offense at all. You only hope to make them rout through fear and your Lord doing work.
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>>144612043
Archaon activated an ancient Old One device that created a Chaos Gate. This third Chaos Gate broke the balance between the old Northern and Southern Chaos Gates and this was going to destroy the world.

The Incarnates decided to sacrifice themselves in order to seal this new Chaos Gate and create a new Vortex. When they were busy doing the spell to seal the portal, Mannfred teleports behind Gelt (The Incarnate of Metal) and backstabs him. This leads the spell to go haywire and the Chaos Gate sucking the winds of magic. The world is destroyed shortly afterwards.
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>>144612235
120 rockets
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>>144611385
>insulting best faction
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What exactly do you use for frontline Empire troops if you're not doing some OP cheese tactic?
Greatswords? Spearmen?
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>>144612358

In the first year, we used to make silly stuff like pose the corpses to the best of our ability - being physical strength against rigor mortis.
On another note, movies where they wrap people up in blankets and just stuff them into cars and shit? Fuck that, it'd be like trying to bend a plank.

But after an incident where a family changed their mind about cremating their grandmother and we had drawn a vaudeville moustache on her with waterproof markers because if we can't try to make it something funny, we'd be fucked up, the boss installed a camera and we proceeded to just do our jobs.

If you meant literal fucking, then no. That's honestly more a thing where it happened once back in the day and then people assume that's all we do. It's never happened in my city, since the days of the old west.
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>>144612235
Full ghost army, only Cairn Wraiths and maybe some Hex Wraiths.

Only slayers

Spider only army
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>>144605459
for the wight kings the bretonian model comes with that cape so that one can't be done. tell you what though, Ive been looking for somewhere to sneak in the wight king cape. I'll add that tattered red cape as a lord variant

>>144605503
cheers anon just going through the testing process now(its slow)
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>>144612465

Rockets? Are those dwarf units? Wouldn't those be late-game units in that case? Not really worth it if you can't do it fairly early.
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>>144612618
Never use more than 2 greatswords and never more than 6 non infantry slots (however you want to divy that shit is up to you) and thats how you gimp yourself into having fun
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>>144612418
haha, that goblin sure showed those orcs
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>>144612649
>a family changed their mind about cremating their grandmother and we had drawn a vaudeville moustache on her with waterproof markers
What ended up happening? Did you abrade the marker off or something?

That sounds like a funny job though. You should have worn a tuxedo and tophat and cultivated the air of an undertaker.
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>>144612707
Rockets are like mid-tier empire artillery, also it didn't sound like it was a serious request for good army ideas since, "but that might be too easy"
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>>144612440
Why does he do this?

>if I can't win, nobody can tier shit?
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Why is Empire the only faction whose early economy doesn't suck?

Dwarf isn't too bad but everyone else, especially VC are poor as fuck most of the time.
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>>144612909
>VC
>Poor
Is this a memepost
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>>144612534
>faction
My paranoid grandmother from Averland held that belief as well.

>Giant rat people
hah I say
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>>144612848
>What ended up happening? Did you abrade the marker off or something?

We couldn't get it off in time, so we had to present her with the moustache. We didn't get paid for a month and a half after that, along with the dirtiest of stink-eyes from anyone who had heard about it. Thankfully never reached the news.

>That sounds like a funny job though. You should have worn a tuxedo and tophat and cultivated the air of an undertaker.

Honestly, it fucks you up. I still have nightmares about the dead rising from the preparation table and strangling/killing me in whatever manner. I can't eat sauerkraut anymore, because it smells just like the first few seconds when the flesh starts to burn in the oven. I obsessively wash my hands to the point where people think I'm insane because I want to get the stench out. I don't even know if there is a stench anymore, but I still smell it on my hands.
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>>144612440
Ok then what about only great weapons Grave Guard?

If you don't win within 5 minutes you suck
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>>144612895
Because zombie armies are legit awful
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>>144613114
>We couldn't get it off in time, so we had to present her with the moustache.
Comedy gold.

I reckon a black comedy about working in a mortuary/funeral home would be fantastic. Niche, but fantastic.

>Honestly, it fucks you up
Probably, but that's life. We've all got our crosses to bear.
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>>144613114
The stench is probably only in your nose anyway. Use perfumed sope, even if it by some small chance doesn't get the smell out it will mask it enough to be unrecognizable
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>>144607412
Vampire Counts are fun as fuck.
I wasn't sold on the game while playing as the Empire, but holy fuck besieging shit with Vampire Counts. Sending my flying monsters onto the walls while my towers roll in. God damn.
Sending in my Varghulf as soon as the gate comes crashing down reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShWnTlP60E
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>>144608758
>Literally nobody complained about matched combat.
Is this a fucking joke?
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In the original Total War: Shogun, I once watched a Kensai successfully defend a bridge against an entire brigade of enemy Samurai. In that moment the last vestiges of historical accuracy drained out of the series, never to return. It wasn't a great loss: the franchise is still the best wedding of tactical and strategic layers ever to grace a computer. But given the emptiness of its historical settings, it makes sense that Total War has finally ditched any pretence of simulation with the entirely pretend Total War: Warhammer.

Not that the result has much in common with either piece of source material. As a veteran of both, I started out utterly confused after an inexcusably bad tutorial and lack of instruction material. Miniature gamers will discover that tried and tested tabletop tactics don't work on these digital battlefields. Total War devotees, on the other hand, will find that while the mechanics are familiar, the vast diversity of new and bizarre units make the game play very differently to its predecessors.

Given how awful the learning curve is at the moment, it's tempting to stall on this until various bloggers and vloggers have got on the case to smooth it out. Patches will come, prices may drop. Those who like a challenge may wish to take the plunge now and learn the hard way. Either way, if you have the slightest interest then this is not a game to miss. In bringing fantasy to Total War, Creative Assembly have made both the best Total War game and the best fantasy strategy game to date.
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>>144613160
>Kingdom of Norway
>In Sweden

What the fuck is this? Norway has never had any larger parts of current Sweden, and absolutely never that far south or east.
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>>144611870
Actually, they do stack. The -15% cost one at least.
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Hey /twg/,

I posted this in /v/ already, but maybe /vg/ is the better place for TW: Warhammer questions.

A friend and me played the coop campaign for about 9 hours straight yesterday and while it's great fun, we still haven't figured out how to have real time battles with BOTH of our armies together.

>play dorfs
>he plays vampires
>want to campaign against Averland
>can only give each other battle control over certain units


Basically, we want to steamroll the map (we play on easy) with our two 20/20 armies (1x dwarf, 1x vampire) and fight huge battles together where both of us field our respective troops against the enemy armies.

Does that even work in this game?


PS: How do I prevent my game from randomly crashing each hour? If it wasn't for the coop autosaves, we would have given up already.


Pic somewhat related, my lords have the same names in the MP campaign as they do in single player.
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>form dorf box formation
>leave cannons in center
>chaos shits charge box
>gap forms in the defense
>manually fire the cannons right into the gap slaughtering knights and chosen

This shit is so satisfying
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>>144608758
Tons of people complained about how "terrible" it was, which was partly why it was removed. It was mainly the old breed of Med 2 players. They had some weight in Rome 2 when matched combat was unbreakable and screwed up formations because soldiers would quite often go full PULLO FORMATION but Attila solved it by having them fully interruptible by any other soldier.
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>>144613821
Didnt someone make a whole collection of webms of those women soldiers getting killed?
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>Awaken Sarl, Baersoling and Aesling because I need to awaken tribes to unlock Sigvald.
>Allied with Skaelings, they've destroyed most of Varg and have taken the entire western half of Norsca.
>Aesling declares war on Skaelings!
>Well, fuck it, I was going to destroy the Skaelings at some point anyway
>Aesling declares war on Sarl
>Well, Sarl only has a tiny encampment, so I'll side with the Aeslings again.
>mfw Baersoling gets destroyed by Kraka Drakk
>Then Sarl completely destroys Aesling
>mfw I'm back to square one.

I managed to subjugate Sarl shortly after, and my army of Chosen destroys anything it encounters.
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>finally got all dwarf cheevos

thank fuck, never need to play the manlets again
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>>144613719
I like this game and all but
>better than Heroes of Might & Magic III with AB
>better than WarCraft 3 with TFT

Just nah. Maybe there will be a remote possibility after all three expansions come out but even then I can't see it being better than Heroes III.
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>wipe out skaeling and varg by turn 70 so only subject tribes live in norsca
>my upkeep is 7000 per turn
>quit because fuck that
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>>144614013
Too bad you'll never stop being autistic
>>
Chaos or Greenskins for my next campaign? I feel like shoving my dick into the Old World with no lube after I defended it with the Empire and Dwarves.
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>>144614158
Orcs, they're actually fun
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>>144614013
congrats
you'll be back[/spoiler
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>>144614274
Oh I'm still playing the game

I just hate playing the dwarves, they're easily the most boring faction
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>>144613886
yeah, unfortunately I didnt save them
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>>144613801
your armies need to be next to each other when engaging an enemy army
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>>144614340
I dunno what they could do to make them fun really, its the same in tabletop. I guess gyrocopters could be twice as good without being imbalanced.
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Wheres the QnA? Cant see shit on facebook
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>>144614508

It doesnt help that all of the Dorf top tier shit is fucking dogshit(cept ironbreakers)
>>
>first dorf quest wants me to have two gyrocopters in my main man's army
I'd have to build a tier 4 city, a foundry and an engineers' guild hall just for that. Why the fuck is this the first quest? I already have the second quest and I'm nowhere gyrocopters yet. This is worse than some of the chapter objectives, like the game actually expects you to just sit around for ages doing nothing and just waiting for buildings to construct.
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>Everyone hates me for being too strong, not a single shield of civilization
>Grimgor with a waagh in the south
>Chaos shits in the north
>Karaz Ankor fucked to worthlessnes
>Skaeling and Varg doing their usual stuff
>Vampires to the west
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>>144614782
Also, Surtha Ek constantly sieges talabheim, only to run away whenever I sally forth, meaning I never get to finish recruiting my tanks and fuck some more heretical shit up with Karl
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>>144611286
I'll just pay $10 for the "Awesome Animations Pack"
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>>144614432

Oh, we weren't aware of that.
How close do they need to be to each other?

By the way, is that the same mechanic the AI uses to determine whether an army gets reinforcements?
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>finally figure to buy the otomo clan pack
>hated by everyone
>line up matchlocks
>even generals run away before even getting close to the walls

Surely they should stand as Crassus. I'll run out of ammo eventually.
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>mousillon guy's mods are getting popular

can't wait CA to put them in the next video
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>>144614875
Also, this shit
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>>144614720
Yeah fuck pre-quest battle quests, just give me the battle dammit

I hope someone does this as a mod
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>>144614971
They have to be in reinforcement range which is the edge of the red circle around the enemy army
and yes it is
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>>144614720
>I'd have to build a tier 4 city

Actually, a tier 5 city - because you need level 2 engineering guild to be able to make gyrocopters.
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>>144614993
NIELS NYLUND CHAMPION OF PARADOX
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>It's a Surtha Ek episode
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Daily reminder that Empire > Bretland.
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>>144615610
Based Leitdorf
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>>144615610
Leitdorf LL when?
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>>144615610
>BUT GUNS ARE DISHONORAGUGHGUGHG
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>>144615610
Leitdorf best elector count
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>>144597525
It doesn't. They're not giant hammers
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>>144613006
You'll see, the rat people and the moon people are in cahoots together!
There are lizard man fighting the rat man to stop 'em from exploding the world with the moon!!
I ain't no crazy man Mister Witch Hunter sir!!!
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>>144615610

>ur wife ugly as shit yo
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>>144615610
>Marius Leitdorf

The absolute madman.
>>
>>144615610
KEK MY LIFE INTO PIECES.
THIS IS MY LAST DIVORCE.
DESTINATION: NO BREEDING.
DON'T GIVE A FUCK THAT I CAUGHT MY WIFE CHEATING
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Leitdorf is dead.
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>>144615610
If only the Helblasters were worth something in the game.
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>>144615610
>The Sopranos Season 3
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>>144616012
Warhammer is dead
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DAWI FUCKING SHITS

FUCK TALABECLAND I DON'T EVEN LIKE THEM
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>>144605767
>vanguard deployment for most of the roster
>insane archery range (but no artillery)
>stupidly hard to spot in forests unless you're literally on top of them
>ranged hero that hits like a truck in battle
>"seasonal" turn structure with the wild hunt, diminished tree power in winter, recruitment etc.
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>youll never be based Marius Leitdorf and insult Breton nobles and slaughter halfling rebels
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>>144615610
is there anything this man can't do?
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>>144616192
Live
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>>144616192
Marius and the lads
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>>144616192
He can't SUMMON
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>>144616287
THE
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>>144616315
ELECTOR
>>
What do you think is the best magic type to choose for a chaos sorcerer?
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>>144616247
Pretty sure all elector counts have that issue nowadays
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>>144616315
>>144616334
I DO NOT CONSENT
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>>144616350
Death, hands down
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>>144616381
TZEENTCH'S MANY GLORIES
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>>144594118

>"In a statement made on Monday The Creative Assembly confirmed the Total War YouTube personality known as "Arch Warhammer" had been bought on to the creative team for the next two titles in the Total War: Warhammer series."

>"We look forward to working with someone who can take the game(s) in a better and more source accurate direction while sharing our enthusiasm for the Total War franchise."

Are you ready kids?
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>>144616442
DIS STINKS!
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>>144616381
>>144616442
NAGASH WAS WEAK

WITNESS TRUE POWER
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SPIRIT OF MORKAR!
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>Blatantly broken shit good or bad that needs fixing

Go.
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>>144616462
Weak bait, atleast make up a source.
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>>144616192
when ur whole squad is on point
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Finally stopping here after getting the 60 technologies achievement.

Borders are pretty decent, Empire and Bretonnia are gangbanging Tilea off the map at the time of this screenshot.
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>>144616540

Gyros
Irondrakes
Fire cannons
Hellblasters
Luminark
Witch Hunters
All non direct damage/buffs magic
Demigryphs
Most monsters

Thats all I got off the top of my head
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>>144616540
Magic needs to be useful at higher unit counts.
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>>144616481
>>144616482
>>144616497
Goooood...GRIMNIR'S AXE THIRSTS,
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>>144616192
Marius has a hardon for agents
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>>144616039
Its impressive that CA can even somehow nerf the concept of a 9 gun revolving artillery piece or any artillery in this game. I really hope skaven won't be shit and that they actually try and make warp lightning good but they'll fuck it up terribly
>>
Dark times indeed, when Vampires come to pay social calls.
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FOR THE WISDOM OF VALAYA.
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>Anyone notice that Count Helmut smells funny?
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>>144616920
GET MY AXE! Why should I speak with you Zangunaz?
>>
Why don't I see any of my victory progress when I open up Objectives? I didn't even get the short campaign win yet at turn 140, Warriors of Chaos defeated with myself taking down Archaon, every non-Chaos factions is in one big ass alliance so that covers my Dwarf stuff. Greenskins were eliminated like 50 or so turns ago.

For the long campaign I just have 1 grudge left to do
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>>144614519
Still takes them some time, a few questions are 'in-depth' questions that take more time to answer.
'Better a delayed good stream than a shallow one now'
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BEST QUEEN

FUCKING

WHEN
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>>144616892
Yup, it seems to me artillery is only good against humans and non armoured orcs in this game. Anything with plate armour and a shield seems to shrug off hellblaster and great cannon shots.
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>>144616462
>imblying
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>>144617332
>armour piercing weapons
>bad against armoured targets

wot
>>
I NEED RESKINS OF OTHER HUMAN FACTIONS THEN EMPIRE AND BRETONNIA
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>>144616924
Lel, Warhammer lore is so fucking stupid in a positive way
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>>144616924
>Does the count seem a little off to you?
>He's always been that stiff
>>
So where did you guys buy your Total War:hammer? Not really sure where to get the cheapest one
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>>144617332
Cannons fuck up armored units are you mad

Hellblasters are dogshit tho
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>>144616920

SUMMON ME IF YOU DAAARE
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How will the Blessing of the Lady work for Bretonnia? A 25% ward save or something comparable?
What units are they still missing? Will CA implement some 'non-canon' units?

Answer me /twg/, I need best humans NOW
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>>144617649
In Steam like a good goy
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Any good mods that make combat slower?
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>>144617649
Got the Limited Edition cause I like steelbooks, also 5€ cheaper than on Steam
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>>144617818
I think the faction leader has that as a buff, which works as a 12.5% ward save.
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>>144617871

Not yet.
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>>144617649
A cd-key from an online re-seller for for ~$20 USD less.
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>can't see arrows in the ground or on bodies
I hope someone fixes this. I hate seeing a volley of arrows just do damage and drop people, no arrows piling up around them or sticking out of survivors/shields
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>>144617880
>>144617824
But its €10 more then a physical copy

There has to be a better alternative then a steam scam, and I will find one!
>>
Skellingtons or zombies?
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>>144617818
>How will the Blessing of the Lady work for Bretonnia?
I don't know

>A 25% ward save or something comparable?
Seems a bit much, doesn't it? In table top they had to surrender the chance to go first in order to get 1/6th ward save against normal attacks, and a 1/3rd ward save against heavy attacks. But they lost the save if the fled once

>What units are they still missing?
Questing Knights - Knights with great weapons

Grail Reliquae and Battle Pilgrims - Crazed monks carying a dead knight into battle, sword infrantry with aura buffs

Knight Errants - Like KotR but younger and eager to prove themselves

>Will CA implement some 'non-canon' units?
I don't think so, apart from maybe knights on foot. There is a special rule for lords in their last army book called Virtue of Empathy where the lord fights on foot together with his peasants
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>>144617913
Why?
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>>144617818

Brettonia don't really have much in the way of unit variety. The only thing missing are Questing Knights and maybe Knights Errant.

They could add dismounted versions (but that would be un-chivalrous as fuck) so then Brettonia would end up with the most powerful infantry in the game. Dismounted Grail Knights would wreck shit so hard.
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Realms of Chaos expansion when?
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>>144601461
romans are op as fuck in DEI,only thing that gives pause is pikes
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>>144618239
>Dismounted Grail Knights
Damn that sounds good
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>>144594687
I hate my self and want to die.
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>>144618239

Well it would follow the popular trend of dismounted x we've been getting with mods recently
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>>144618306
Cant imagine how much nightmare fuel is hiding in the sea of chaos
>>
What is Power Reserves?
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>>144618341
I loved me my Romans in battle, but they never had to face down a charge from a thousand screaming gorilla sized green maniacs with great weapons in each hand. Let alone a dwarven gun line or a daemon of chaos and his buddies.

I wonder how they'd fare in such a world, even with only the current four non-human threats to face
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FUCKING DENUVO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>144618558
Depends if they figured out the whole Chaos thing, otherwise I see them quickly becoming chaos worshipers
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>>144618558
Bunch up some Brettoninan infantry and find out
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>>144618536
It's your reserve of magic during battles. You can at most have 30 power at any given time during battles, but as you use your magic power drains from the reserve to refill your magic meter.
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>>144618617
Post your steam friend, it's time for an early christmas
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>>144618664
sent
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>>144618664
Ashen_Cat fampai
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Alright bought it for 39,14

Get HYPE (but not yet, gotta wait 5 hours for it to download), guess Ill watch the new GoT ep
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>>144619041
ty for reminding me
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>>144608557
I don't think it really rewards slow expansion as much as it punishes fast expansion. Sure, the AI might get a bit of attrition in their own provinces but that's really minor considering there are a bunch of ways to circumvent it compared to the massive order penalty. And since the AI cheats with order that doesn't mean anything to them.
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>>144619041
>tfw i completly forgot about game of thrones as i desperately tried to repel 3 chaos stacks with archaon-sigvald-lord of change leading them in ostland
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hey lads just wondering im think the answer is no but is there an attack move command its a pain in the ass handling a whole army thats just cav
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*teleports behind you*
heh
KILL OOOORCS
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>>144619379
>it punishes fast expansion
But that's good
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>>144609541
Even on normal the Norscans shit out full stacks as fast as I can destroy them. Trying to defending any of the northern provinces is like playing with medusa. Kill one full stack and the next turn two come to take it's place.
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>>144619550
Not in the actual sense, you can group lock units and send them to attack and they all search for their own targets.
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>>144618802
did you get it?
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>>144619576
It would be good if it rewarded slow expansion, but it doesn't, that was my point. It's in theory fun to have a faction that doesn't have the fast expansion strategy but then I feel like it should give some substantial benefit for slow expansion compared to the other factions that don't get penalized. As it is now the vampire counts are just not as good as the others in that regard, with no redeeming factors.
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>>144619658
oh ok cool so once grouped just right click the middle unit n they will sort em selves out?
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>>144619570

More like *dies before doing damage*

Slayers are hot garbage
>>
I think I'm going to make a mod that removes 90% of the armor piercing off of everything but Halberds and Monsters, including Great Weapons/Greatswords(probably doubling their total damage as flat damage to compensate) etc. and see how the game feels.

I have a suspicion that armor piercing is cancer and fucks this game
>>
>>144610413
Did the base game have on or was it just Charlemagne? I don't really remember.
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>>144619870
closest thing dawi have to cav.
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>>144619870
they need more health right?
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>>144619814
It's a bit harsh to say that there's no benefit, with sufficient corruption you can create a universal attrition zone that fucks over invading stacks. Helped me whittle down Varg and Chaos stacks coming down from Bechafen.

Admittedly, it's not the best reward for a slow expansion, given that most enemy armies can neutralize that with raiding stance or encampment, but it does buy you time to send your main armies over if you're out of position.
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>>144619821
Pretty much, yes. You should still keep your eyes on your units but it's far less micro-intensive than ordering every single unit around by itself
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>>144594687
Let me roll.
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>>144619964
The public order is also really useful
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>>144619791
Nein I believe not
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>>144619964
It hasn't really helped me at all, but then again I've mostly expanded fast anyway with mitigating as much as I can with buildings and agents, and just lived with the penalty.
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WHERE IS ANONS EASTEREGG PRIZE
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>144620032
>>posts chinese cartoon fuccboi
>>gets UNGRIM IRONFIST, SLAYER KING OF KARAK KADRIN, MANLIEST AND HAIRIEST OF THE DWARFS
>>mfw
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>>144620148
It's the most helpful if you corrupt Ostermark and perhaps raze Essen or leave a colonized ruin. That way you have a sort of buffer zone to the north while you concentrate your expansion west, using the river Stir as your natural border. I basically have everything between Reikland and Sylvania on lock down and heavily walled. The spare garrison troops really make a difference as VC, since the basic skellie infantry is trash.
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>>144620229
BALANCE PATCH !!!! ANONS PRIZE !!! MOUSILLION ANON SPOTLIGHT!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>144619962
>>144619958
The problem with slayers is that they're slow (because dwarfs) have virtually no ranged defense and once they're in to melee because of their low defenses they end up dying too quickly anyways. Increasing their health might help a bit yes.
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>>144619962
They need more everything desu

If they do engage, they do no damage

Even against large creatures its usually a one for one trade off
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>>144620290
To be fair the only person I could have rolled that would have been redeemable to post anime with is Prince Sigvald.
>>
Does anyone else like to use rebels to create defensive buffer zones?
>>
>gee lets have some fun with magic on easy mode
>miscast eliminates 95% of your health
kek
>>
>>144620565
>>144620598
if i had some more acceptable values i could make a mod, but I'm not that good at balancing.
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>>144620679
I meant small unit sizes, still tho
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>>144620735
I feel like if they just had 25% physical resistance they'd be balanced to be honest.
>>
>Thinking I can get into the genre
>read the FAQ
>Warhammer is the shittiest game

Guess I'll pass.
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>>144620917
What did he mean by this?
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>>144619943
>Did the base game have
yes, the base game had one as well
>>
>>144620828
I'll make a mod for you senpai
>>
>steamtank 2 shots lords from halfway across the map on small
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>>144621040
he only wants to play both the newest and the best game at the same time.

he thinks that warhammer is the worst one due to the FAQ.
>>
>>144618153

Because there's no real way of doing it in Warhammer without fucking up unit stats to make everything piss-weak instead. The combat's not even that fast to begin with.
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>>144600963
You are a man of fine taste.
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>>144621040
It's bait
>"Remember to post this every thread to piss off the autists. Change the ranking as you see fit."
>>
OFFICIAL /TWG/ TOTAL WAR GAMES POWER RANKINGS* (As of [insert date]) (Stand alone titles only) (All patches and mods taken into consideration)

1. Medieval 2 & Kingdoms
2. Napoleon
3. Shogun 2 FotS
4. Age of Charlemagne
5. Shogun 2
6. Attila
7. Rome 1 and BI
8. Empire
9. Rome 2
10. Rome Alexander
11. Warhammer

*All rankings are final, any post of power rankings that follow this official list should be deemed unofficial and not representative of /twg/ and its community
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>>144621117
I didn't even notice there's a fucking ranking of the games in the pastebing. Even more hilarious that whatever autist did it put Warhammer as worst. How butthurt can the guy be?
>>
Whats the Chaos answer to mounted archery? Warhounds barely work sometimes.
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>>144621198
Remember to report people posting spam.
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>>144612704
>I'll add that tattered red cape as a lord variant

Great! It was the Vampire Lord's cape that was bugging me the most desu
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>>144601251
Logic has no place here
>>
are orc warboss just much better than the goblin shamans ?
the shaman hero is so much more useful than the lord
>>
>>144621198
You need to have WH at least above Alexander if you're gonna catch anyone with that bait.
>>
>>144621198
Is this by the same guy that keeps posting the Warhammer unit tier lists? Because it's the exact same brand of autism.
>>
>>144621191

So wait, you say as a new to the genre and the general here I made the horrible mistake of reading the FAQ and fell for a ruse?
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>>144619974
yeah normally do just a pain to manage a frontal and flanking charge at the same time
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>>144621198
>Guns this high up

Yeah no list is shit.
>>
Best Chaos comp?

Do I just stack chaos warriors and roll with it?
>>
>>144621354
Yeah, I don't think anyone with half a brain has actually entered the FAQ in a pretty long time. Don't pay attention to it.
>>
>>144620565
>>144620598
the biggest problem with them is that they have no armor pen, units without it are all garbage not worth using
>>
>>144621354
I mean to say that you're:
>lying
>shitposting
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>>144621413
Chosen with GW
Chosen with Halberds
Chaos Knights
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>>144621425

do grail knights ignore amour as they do magic dmg ?
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>>144621461

Uh no. I had a Steamfriend telling me that the Warhammer one is beginner friendly and since I browse /vg/ for other games I decided to check the general for opinions (whether my friend is bullshitting me or not).
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>>144621504
Not him but aren't Warriors way more cost-effective?
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>>144621565
>MUH COST EFFICIENCY

Don't start this again
>>
>people dont read the faq

lmao
>>
>>144621198
Are you butthurt because /twg/ is now /twhg/?
>>
>>144621504
Chaos doesn't have much use for Halberds as long as you have cav and/or monsters to counter enemy cav and monsters. You're better off with more GW.
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>>144617207
SOON

Kislev DLC will come.
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>>144621634
What FAQ?
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>>144614983
shhhh they will know

its real fuckin slow getting all the mousilon only stuff sorted, but its about half way done.
itd be done but the barded lance black knight variant just doesnt want to show up as an entry in unit_variant_tables no matter what I do,

>>144621259
I know the feeling, I was trying to save it for manfred but it turns out the legendary lords models are completely NOT modular.
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Greenskins genocided on turn 62 except for some stragglers who are going to die of attrition unless they decide to go out fighting by attacking one of my places and losing because there's about 100 orcs left in total. I'm now earning almost 10k gold per turn with 4 full stack armies and no enemies except for chaos, who are apparently up in the Empire. People have trouble with this campaign? I feel like now all I need to do is march around to the remaining dwarf holds with a couple of stacks of elite units and either convince them to ally with me or annex them by force, then just wipe chaos off the face of the planet.
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>>144616724
WILD SPECULATION
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>>144618664
>>144619791

Anon? ;-;
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>>144621676
plz anon
plz
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do grail knights ignore amour as they do magic dmg ?
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>>144621979
OH MIGHTY SIGMAR
SAVIOUR OF THE EMPIRE
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>>144622074
They don't have the armour piercing ability. So no.
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>Play normal
>Easy campaign
>Play hard
>Easy campaign
>Play very hard
>Get shitstomped
Send help
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tfw dawi ks you
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>>144621243
Killing the rest of the army and hope they rout.
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>>144622170
is magic affected by amour then ?

dose it negate a % of the dmg?
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>>144622240
>dat short range jump landing on his belly

How can you take these guys seriously?
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>>144621617
>>144621565
Some of the autists around here get triggered when they think some one is telling them how to play even though no one did, don't worry about it anon
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>>144605767
I think Treeman Ancient and Spellweaver should swap, then get rid of the spell singer.
They also need Waywatchers - I mean, they are sort of the Wood Elves signature unit. I imagine a vangaurd deploying archery unit will be a bit bullshitty though.
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>>144618306
>>144618504

As someone who's not very much into the lore of Warhammer, what IS the Sea of Chaos, and how does it all work?
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GOTREK & FELIX DLC WHEN
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>>144620828
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=698547806
enjoy using the slayers
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>>144622240
flying slayers when
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>>144622175
I know that feel, savescumming and turtling helps though
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>>144621198
>4. Age of Charlemagne

>adding broken games
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>>144622564
to..never
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>>144621872
Its listed as the easiest start.
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>>144621541
nope, which is why they get shrecked by the demigryphs, in fact the main reason demis fuck everyone up so hard is that they deal armour pen damage, the only other cavalry with armor pen is orcish boar cavalry, but its stats are so shit that it doesnt end up overpowered
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>>144622583
Nice, thanks bae, it'll be nice to actually be able to use slayers without feeling like I'm gimping myself, they're a cool unit

>>144622721
I know, but some people were saying that they end up getting fucked somehow, I'm not really seeing it at all
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>>144622734
is it just me or should all lance cav get amour pierce, i mean its a lance
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>>144622891
On tt a lance gives +2 S on the charge, that usually means that normal heavy armor is made useless. So yes, everyone should get some ap. Is there a way to give ap only when the charge bonus is applied?
>>
KHAZUK
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>>144623035
I thought charge bonus damage was always AP, I might be mistaken though
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>>144594554
they're going to put in all of the races eventually.
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>>144622870
if you got any feedback please let me know, i just tested them, and a single unit of slayers took down a giant, while losing 30-40 men on ultra size
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Have they ever said if they'd add unique heroes?
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Hexwraiths get AP damage
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>>144622521
Well, it is a sea, that has likely been corrupted by Chaos. That's it really. Probably some fucked up mutated ass sea monsters or stuff in there.

The area to the north isn't actually the Realm of Chaos, it is just the area immediately closer to the vortex Chaos comes from, so it is the most corrupted/weird. That's also why the human tribes who live in the north are pretty much all Chaos worshippers.

At one point there is an army who comes out of some form of time vortex, comes across an army of damaged, beaten men, fights them to the death, then they themselves are attacked by a fresh army coming from the same direction they once did.
It is the same army, constantly fighting it's past/future self, stuck in an infinite time loop because Khorne finds it hilarious
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>>144616115
>Karak Norn declares war on a wholly irrelevant, dying imperial province on the other side of the world when Chaos is invading and a massive WAAAGH! is growing down south
>while almost everything west of the grey mountains is dead, walking, and hungry for flesh

Really captures the true feel of Warhammer fantasy desu.
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dont wanna beg but would someone be able to make a quick mod that adds amour-pierce to grail knights?

as they have like 3 units in their whole roster
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Should I:

Finish Empire Campaign (Got the victory message but I'm just mopping up greenskins now)
Finish my VC Campaign (Pretty much won, took a bunch of the Empire lands without going to war thanks to corruption/Norsceans, but now the Empire and Dwarfs declared war)
Or start a new campaign, either a Dwarf one because I haven't played them yet, or another Empire one now that I know what I'm doing.
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>>144616613
Did the Bjornlings never come?
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>>144623518
Sounds like a shit army if they lose shit loads to a near dead army
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PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE LORE ABOUT THE CHAOS WASTES AND THE CHAOS SEA THANK YOU LOREMASTERS
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>>144623518
That really is pretty fucking hilarious. Khorne sounds like a fun guy
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I think there's a bit of an issue with the diplomacy AI.

Even the next few turns I offered like 20,000 and they still said no.
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I still don't really understand recruitment of higher tier troops. So if I want Ironbreakers do I need an armory and Gromgril Forge in the same Province capital or just having an armory built will allow me to make a Gromgril forge?
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>>144623737
Karl dont need your blood money
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>>144623791
>Cannot recruit this unit, building needed: Armoury
>Build an armoury
>Cannot recruit this unit, building needed: Armoury

Turns out it actually needed another building, but would only tell me it needed an armoury.
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>bro it was a joke bro, those 50 doomstacks I sent to your lands was just me playing around, please stop ok just chill


I've never seen an AI cheat this flagrantly since shogun 2, never has a genocidal crusade felt this grindy and yet satisfying
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fuck this, I am done with warhammer, the MP is the most unfun crap ever, its either spamming death magic or accusation

the only time you have a fun battle is when by some miracle neither one of you is cheesing, which is 1/10 times
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>>144623909

>demand gold payment

cheeky fucks
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>>144623909
I like how every single time the Norscans ask for peace, they ask YOU to pay for it. Makes razing every single one of their settlements to the ground that much more satisfying.
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>>144616462
Please god no
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How do I into improving relationships so the AI factions will accept my big, rigid, throbbing pact of non aggresion deep into their tight relations screen?
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>>144607229
Why did nobody mention after all this time that cannons can't hide in forests?
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>>144616462
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WHERES OUR BOYS PRIZE
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>>144616462
Who is he and why is that bad?
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>>144624070
Declare war on Chaos, Norsca, and the faction's enemies.
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>>144623909
>>144623909
they arent cheating, they just get +1200 from their ports, which they have in every settlement, and they use cheap as shit units so they can support massive number of stacks
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>>144623290
I just stuck two slayers against 2 crypt horrors in a straight fight, they won with about 75% losses, would have gotten fucked if the crypt horrors hadn't decided to run away. I can only assume the mod is working, though I've never actually used slayers before, personally, because they seemed so bad. I'm assuming without the mod they would have gotten destroyed. There isn't anything indicating the 25% physical damage reduction is applied to them but I'm guessing that's just you'd have to do that separately and it isn't really necessary if you already know it's a thing cos you installed the mod.
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>>144623909
Is that a Bretonia stack up in the frozen north trying to fuck you up?

Also are those dwarfs just fucking lost?
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>>144609903
What are you talking about? The dwarfs are amazing.

>one guy: WE KILL THEM ALL
>all selected units: AY

Genereally I love the voices of the game, had grimgor fight a 1on1 against some random dwarf lord and when the dwarf staggered back grimgor screamed: SAY MY NAME! SAY MY NAME!
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>>144609903
>start turn
>AAAIIIEEHHE
>AUURRRRGGHRAAA...
>AUURRRRGGHRAAA...
>AUURRRRGGHRAAA...
>AAAIIIEEHHE
>AAAIIIEEHHE
>AUURRRRGGHRAAA...
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>>144624285
Imagine being a dwarf lord whos a oretty good fighter among his peers. Then you're up against fucking grimgor. It is then they must know they're gunna die.
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>>144624285
>had grimgor fight a 1on1 against some random dwarf lord and when the dwarf staggered back grimgor screamed: SAY MY NAME! SAY MY NAME!

are you serious?

I've been playing vampire cunts and its literally

"GROOOAA"
"SPOOGY NOISE"
"ASSSS UUU WISH"
"WHISTLES"


It's cancer
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>>144624228
i just updated the mod, i don't think it was working before, but it should now. sorry about the lack of info button i don't know how to do that.
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Age of Sigmar dlc when?
>tfw playing chaos and bringing about the end times
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>>144624217
I believe they also have some buildings that give all recruits extra experience which is why all their fresh stacks have silver chevrons.
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>>144624531
Don't forget Mannfred saying "kill them, raise them~" after having an asthma attack.
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Ok gonna lay down a proposed Kislev roster
LL
Tzarina Katarina or Tzar Boris

Heroes
Ice Mage
Gryphon Legionnaire Captain
Ursun Priest

Melee Infantry
Kreml Guard (heavy armored elite infantry
Halberdiers
Spearmen

Range Infantry
Streltsy (CQC specialists and gunners)
Kossars (archers)

Cavalry
Winged Lancers
Gryphon Legion (better lancers basically)
Ungol horse archers
Chekists (firearm cav)
Sons of Ursun (fan creation of bear cav, so unlikely but would be amazing)
War Wagon

Artillery
Urugan Cannon
Mortars
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>>144624217
I can read the building cards for their ports, it doesn't say shit about income. Their main buildings produce a ton, but not enough for the Varg to support 6-10 full stacks of trolls and chariots to dance around my lands besieging and laying ambushes.

I can't imagine what this campaign would look like right now if I hadn't spent literally all my income for 100 turns building walls.

>>144624258
Bretonnia came once to marienburg, saw the walls, and fucked off right back home. I don't think they'll be a problem. The dwarves I sent with war coordination, now they're just slowly underway tunneling themselves home.
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>>144624614
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>>144624531
Yeah undead voices absolutely suck but dwarfs and greenskins are awesome.

>if you only select 1-2 units the voices are less and quieter
>if you select all they yell in unity
>if you select the doomdiver he whimpers

I love the touch
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>>144624614
End times already happened m8
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>>144624575
Cool, I'll give the same battle another shot and see if they do better
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>>144624531
>I've been playing vampire cunts
There's your problem, you're playing the faction that's nothing but mindless puppets.
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Wonder how fucked Chaos would've been if humanity had another couple of decades to figure out bolt action weaponry
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>>144624689
>I can't imagine what this campaign would look like right now if I hadn't spent literally all my income for 100 turns building walls.

That's basically how every campaign except Chaos works. Walls are just too damn handy and almost entirely fix the problem of army upkeep, since you basically have a mid to high tier army stationed everywhere.
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>>144624648
If kislev get added they're going to have a pretty cool heh start with the norscan fucks to the north and the vampire cunts to the south. A nation of horsefuckers with guns sounds like fun, at least.
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>>144623553
>>144623553
>>144623553
I..I..Its ok if not, on a side not is it hard to edit/change stats for a unit?
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>>144624875
So long as humans are humans, Chaos would always be a threat.
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>>144624773
try again i accidentally buffed quarrellers by mistake.
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>>144624689
>it doesn't say shit about income
some anon posted it, in one of the earlier threads, their port gives them +1200 gold

the poison dogs have only 65 upkeep, the horsemen, marauders and trolls are really, really cheap as well
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>>144624993
Could you put a dent in their shit if you dropped by with a stack around early-mid game and razed 2-3 ports?
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>>144624972
40k chaos is a threat because of the great schism of marines

Fantasy chaos is a threat because of the well established norscans
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>>144624875
Fantasy chaos has a few super elite soldiers that can take on whole armies but also hordes of unwashed slaves willing to throw themselves in to the grinder.

You want an era of combat where skill matters but not that much. Maybe Napoleonic?
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>>144624614
Not happening, this Warhammer is an alternate version of the setting. Just like AoR, Storm of Chaos and End times.
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>>144624894
Once I achieved the short victory as Empire, I watched the map playthrough to see how long it is until Chaos appears and until Kislev starts losing territory. Kislev starts losing territory by the mid 60s or early 70s. So you have alot of time until then to prepare, while at the same time dealing with the dumb Norscan stacks.
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>>144624993
Those sons of bitches.

Well now they have no ports.
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>>144624975
nvm i'll reupload the right version.
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>>144621843
You're doing God's work Moussilanon, and I can't wait to play your mod
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Ayyyyyy.
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>>144625139
The fuck you on about m8, I was making a post about now non existent future lore speculation
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>tfw someone will create Nippon mod
iirc that is an actual faction in wfb
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>>144625275
That must be fun
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>>144625121
All it would take is some decadent Emperor, rogue general, or ambitious wizard to hear the whispers of Chaos and set things in motion. Doesn't matter if the Empire is the not!HRE, the not!Prussia, the not!EU, or the not!Turkey.
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>>144625113
they rebuild razed cities in like 10 turns, you have to wipe them out completely, I learned it the hard way, I sent Gelt up there with 1 stack to support him and the norskans were rebuilding the settlements as fast as I was razing them

you need at the very least 3 strong stacks, and to send them all in opposite directions, since you have to move in raid stance to avoid attrition so you will be insanely slow
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>>144625185
Well, I've done four of that battle now without the mod being in effect, so that's probably a good amount of base tests
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>>144625336
It is, but they're completely irrelevant save for getting memed by skaven in end times
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>>144625275

>get this stupid faggot event when I'm chasing down the ever watchers routing army
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Any working torrents I can use until my credit card payment goes through?
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>>144625440
cool, i'll try and fix it dunno what i did wrong, but i'll post it when i get it working.
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>>144625480
The game uses Denuvo, so not for the next couple of months, if ever.
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>>144625381
Well they got by for 2000 years without that happening(save for sylvanias fall to the undead)
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>Get underway intercepted by my own Waargh
You treacherous fucks.
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>>144625626
>Boyz we gotta go fasta, da boss wants us to follow him to da stuntie's-
>OI WHO IZ THEZE GITZ
>THAT GOBBO IZ LOOKIN' AT ME FUNNY
>WAAAGH
>WAAAAAAAAAAGH
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>>144625480
This >>144625540
should probably just go in the OP, there's at least five or six of you in every thread asking.
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what happens when the battle timer runs out in Total War Warhammer?
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I don't know about you guys, but I feel the last Chaos wave is underwhelming. So I've been thinking that each Chaos wave should have significantly more stacks than the previous.
So, the first wave has 4
Maybe second wave have 6
Third wave 8
Fourth wave 10
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>>144625784
attacking side loses
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>>144625523
great, I'll do some more test battles when I get back in like 15 minutes if it's up then
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>>144611326
>the Everchild.
who
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>>144625540
Seems like there's a Denuvo bypasser going around that works with every denuvo protected games. Pirates are on the offensive!
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>>144625621
I'm talking more about after they fuck over the sheepfucking norscans with decent gun technology, expand, develop, and fall into stagnation/decadence.
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>>144625791
It's random, in my dorfs game the first chaos wave razed every human province outside of tilea/border fags
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>>144625734
"It's treason then!"
>Azhag over-gyrates
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>>144625523
i know your busy senpai but in the odd chance you get bored could you add amour piercing to grail knights, cheers mate
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>>144626087
if get this one to work i'll have a look at it
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I can't understand heads or tails when it comes to begining to making a mod. Are there any guides out there for idiots?
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>>144626182
praise the lady of the lake
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>>144625867
Before Elfis Island sank they had a huge kingdom of elves about on par with the Empire and it was all ruled by a descendant of Isha's sister named the Everqueen. tl;dr she's the opposite of Grimdark and looks like she came out of Narnia, and had a kid who is the Everchild who ideally would've became the Everqueen had she not been kidnapped and butchered to awaken an old Askum skelly-god.
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If I can run attila on normal settings

can I run warhammer on normal settings?
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>Bretonnian ''''''''''''wine'''''''''''
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>>144625784
SUDDEN DEATH
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>>144626361

Sigwald is a cum guzzling faggot, he probably has shit taste.
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Has CA fixed magic yet?
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>>144626508

t. Louen Louencuck
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>>144626349

Yes
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>>144626618
It not, any mods to fix this?
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>>144626508
>implying he doesn't have exquisite taste in all things

Really, we should just let him run the world. The place would be a tad more fabulous.
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>>144626736

Yes and no.

You can find several mods on the workshop that boost damage spells, but those tend to have 2 problems

1. They overpower Spirit Leech and Fate on Bjuna
2. They don't fix any of the spells with the Bombardment type because those spells have bugged hit detection.
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what formations do my fellow stunties use when forced to fight on land? trying to develop some ideas to better fend off getting flanked

currently: main infantry lines in front, archers behind that, siege behind that. lesser (aux) units form a trapezoid perimeter with 1 units as reserve near siege equipment

also: reply with dope strats or alternative formations regardless of race (i love that shit) i.e. this https://youtu.be/6N2BV-5US48
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>>144626905
Hmm, so its a double edged swords. Any official words from CA on patch/fix for this? This is the first total war I played with large/ultra unit size (usually a medium, pardon my cashoolness), so the magic not being scaled up is kinda annoying.

I used one of the mod to power up the magic, the vortex is now kind of OP being able to kill half (if not 75%) of the normal unit with luck and good direction.
>>
Today was the day but nothing happened. Tomorrow is the day it will happen.
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Is there any obvious indication of where Mordheim was previously located in Ostermark?
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>>144627014
sweet
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>>144627286
What will?
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>>144627552
STUFF
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So as a poor Vamp Cunt player do I go with skelles or zombies as my main line? Skelles are better but more expensive to upkeep and online everyone seems to go for zombies.
Plus you can buff zombies with technologies in the campaign
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Haven't got it yet, are there different units for the Empire Provinces for added flavour or are they just mostly colour scheme changes?

I want me some Ulrican Middenheimers.
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>>144627253

>I used one of the mod to power up the magic, the vortex is now kind of OP being able to kill half (if not 75%) of the normal unit with luck and good direction.

I find that preferable to the unmodded experience where you can have a Flame Storm pass straight over a unit of GOBLINS and kill between 0 and 3 of them.
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>>144627652
Exciting stuff?
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>>144627690
why would you be poor as vamp cunt? you have a freaking gold mine in your capital, people always complain about VC economy even though its a very solid start
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>>144627690
Zombies, just massive clusterfuck swarms that you preoccupy the enemy with and then obliterate with your high-tier units in the flanks.

Skellies might be better for sieges though
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God damnit! I'm desperately waiting for a patch that makes more dwarf units viable, and to make the waiting easier I bought Fürer-mana IV despite swearing I wouldn't. I blame CA.
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>>144627690

Zombies are good online because they're cheap as dirt and work as a solid tarpit while your elite units do the work.

If you don't HAVE any elite units to do the work then you need skellies
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>>144627014
So far I've been rather inefficiently using my 40% quarreler army composition to destroy any cavalry or missile cavalry before it becomes a problem. It doesn't really work so well if they have more than 2-3 cavalry, but missile cavalry get shredded. It'd be nice if you could just give a couple of your warriors spears, but I guess using spears is undwarfy or something. Fucking axe boners.
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>>144627743
I guess I can agree to that. Having magic mechanic supposed to help you in combat in a big way (kind of like bombardment in historical tw).
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>>144627690
You want skeletons early game. Once you get some scary stuff to flank with, you can go down to zombies for the main line and rely on the scary stuff to flank with.
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Anyone can teach me how to overcast magic spells and how do I know which ones are overcast-able?

Playing as empire and the tutorial isnt exactly descriptive about overcasting, even though I always pick 'reduce miscast chance' skill for my wizards upon levelling up.

Also, any benefit of overcasting>?
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Okay lads so I found out POISON works as a damage DEBUFF

What this means is you want units with poison INTERLACED with your meleee front row

For ex, if you have grave guard, if you augment them with crypt horrrs you will literally double your survivability since the crypt horror poison debuff on the enemy severely reduces their damage

This has been a PSA for today on poison
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>>144627014
red is iron breaker or some hard as fuck unit
front blue is thunderer
light blue is quarreler
orange is longbeards or some shit
back things are grudge thrower
magenta is lord and hero

advance in formation at grudge thrower speed, start shooting the shit out of them if they dont advance

if they do advance, send in two ironbreakers, back to back facing left and right so they cover each others' asses, don't worry about facing the enemy the point is to get surrounded

if enemy blobs, fire away, send hero support to iron breakers if needed
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>>144628145

You just click the spell twice.

If the spell has two little arrows at the bottom then it can be overcast, one will light up when you click it and the second when you click it again, indicating that you are overcasting.

Also, right click a spell in your skilltree to open the spell browser, you can read all the spells' effects and what overcasting does for each one there.
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How it feels to fight bretons as dwarfs

https://youtu.be/xFxrzSrVv0I?t=2m47s
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Is there a specific path chaos takes? I'm doing a head to head campaign as empire against VC and I'm wondering if Chaos will go after him or me.
>>
Where's the fucking Q&A that was promised today? Grace is such a useless cunt.
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>>144628145
>Also, any benefit of overcasting>?

Read the spell browser
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Anyone else really hate the chair thing Thorgrim goes around on? With no upgrade to a different thing like a mount either, seeing 4 dwarfs carry him around on a big chair looks too dumb even for Warhammer.
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>>144628303
>this is what dwarfs actually believe
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>>144628571
>upgrade to a different thing like a mount
>replacing the Book of Grudges with anything
Another entry I see.
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>>144628571

It would be cool if the thronebearers attacked as well.
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>>144628571
Those chair bearer dudes are literally the toughest dudes in the game

THEY FUCKIN FIGHT ONE ARMED, WHILE HOLDING HIS FATNESS ALOFT, WADING THROUGH SHIT, KEEPING BALANCE ALL THE TIME

How do they do it?
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>>144628303
Except gyrocopters do diddly you autistic weeb

In fact mounted yeoman are infinetly more useful
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>>144628381
Her cunt has quite some use you gay faggot
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>>144628730
Well they are literally the toughest dudes out of the dwarfs so it's not surprising
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>>144628809
>>144628632
M-Muh Lady

t. betrons who were killed by superior aircraft and tanks
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>>144628957

Meanwhile, in reality

>1 unit of peasant archers can take out 4 units of Gyrocopters
>Dwarfs don't have tanks at all
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>>144628273
so ironbreakers would run in front of thunderers?

i guess in theory moral wouldn't drop because your formation is surrounded, not the unit?
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>>144628571
Yeah I really don't like the throne to be honest. It doesn't make any fucking sense. Not even in the fantasy doesn't make sense sort of way, it's just like, why the fuck aren't the masses of orcs around him just hitting the people who can't move or fight back because they're holding a giant fucking chair with one hand and I think a shield in the other? The chair is sort of cool but it just looks fucking silly in battle.
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Can we make a new thread so i can spam my memes and go to sleep?
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>>144628303
its nice that Japan thinks they could win against medieval armies.
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>>144600405
you're suppose to be poor as chaos anon, you should have like 100k at turn 15-20 though. so your troop costs dont matter, sack and raze... and then sack and raze some more.
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DO DAWI HAVE ANY EQUIVALENT TO THE STEAM TANK

WHY NOT???

WHEN WILL WE SEE DWARVEN MECHS

IF THEY CAN MAKE PLANES WHY NOT MECHS??
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>>144628957
>dwarves
>tanks
lmao
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>>144629257
>mfw RoR still has tons of work to do before it's decent enough to enjoy properly
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>>144629181
The reason is that it's Dorf tradition that whenever the king wants to sit, he sits on his throne. Naturally this means that if a king were to travel, they'd either need to stand the entire time or bring their throne with them. It's a great honor to be a thronebearer & said thronebearers are highly trained to be the king's bodyguards.
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>>144629181
Blame Thorgrim for being a lazy fuck, he doesn't even need to bring the chair he just does because he can't be bothered to stand
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THERE'S TOO MANY FUCKING GREENSKINS, WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO
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I'm playing on Legend and really want to get Lightning Strike because that shit is not managable if you get swarmed by multiple armies. What trash skills should I get beforehand to reach the 4 skillpoint threshhold before I get there?
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>>144629246
I think the should get some sort of steam powered drill on treads. It would have a giant drill in the front, treads on the bottom, and a place for a dwarf to sit and steer the thing behind the drill. There would be a back seat where another dwarf would sit and toss out satchel charges out the back
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>>144629257
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>>144629246
Manlets butthurt that humans have surpassed them in technology with only a fraction of the time the dwarfs had
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>>144600405
>Chaos
>poor

I consistently have 50 to 100k favour by turn 40. A semi-large settlement gives you atleast 10 to 15k on a sack. Bigger ones give up to 50k. How are you fucking poor?
>>
>>144629489
I always go Fervent. Fucking chaos and vamps always shitting things up with their agents
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Are there any house rules /twg/ likes to adhere to? I've been trying to, as best I can anyway, keep my armies near the percentages allowed for lords, heroes, core, rare, and special from the table top.
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>>144629460
if dwarf: turtle silver road hard. build gate or w/e structures at everything but capitol. you should be building a near-capacity army as soon as province is capped, and expect a shitstorm by turn 20-25. Fight in the underway. Perk into the ability to fight in the underway more often

if empire; are you kidding you should have tanks and shit by the time they're a problem

if other greenskins: die
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>>144629437
>>144629458
See the tradition is all fine and everything but this fat fuck could just opt to stand up during battles, like damn the thronebearers don't get a moment's rest do they, even in the one situation where you'd think the king would bother standing up, when fighting people, he still makes them carry him around like the goddamn lazy piece of shit he is.
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>>144629246

Because Dorfs would rather cut off their tiny manlet cocks than innovate.

Men are surpassing the Dwarfs in technology because, while Dwarfs have many hoarded secrets of craft, men don't need the approval of 300 Engineer guild members and a 200 year trial period before they're allowed to try a new idea.

Someone in the Empire had an idea to build a tank, so they fucking built a tank.
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>>144629164
yes, they look sort of like this

facing out so your flanks are exposed but not your rear

it has to be a hard fucking unit to be able to do this without just breaking

the pink is their dogs or horses trying to get at you

you can close the front and stop using the thunderers if some ignore the ironbreakers and try to get at you, or just use the 2nd hero to intercept and continue shooting
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>>144628273
Neat, I'm gonna start using this.

Just to clarify, the front ironbreakers are basically bait so you can shoot shit harder? And this makes the long beards on the sides a defense force to protect the missile units flanks?
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>>144628281
Thanks, anon! Gotta try this later.
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>>144628183
Do poison archers poison friendly troops in this game? I assume so but there's no status indicator for a poisoned unit like there was in atilla
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>>144629675
The last high king was a badass, he stood atop a carried shield into battle
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wHAT'S The faction that will most play like the Wermacht?

I style myself as a tactical Erwin Rommel like genius and need to know the force that has the best blitzkrieg potential
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>>144629708
>tfw doing that, but with Empire on Legendary, using just Karl Franz for the Ironbreaker's role

God, why is he so fucking cool
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>>144629735
yes, and yes, though if your flanks aren't threatened or you clear the flankers with your quarrelers instead, you can start moving the beards up as an encircling force
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>>144629947
The Empire has literal tanks

Create the first panzergruppe and blitz you autist
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>>144629919

inb4 poison wind globadiers when?
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>>144629351
>>144629040
BIDF spotted

YOUR LADY IS LITERALLY A WOOD ELF GOD

YOUR EXISTENCE IS A LIE
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>>144629489
Fervent or Reassuring Presence is the most useful, depending on what you intend to do with the army.
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>>144629669
it's waaay past that point, I've confederated and expanded heavily and I own some of the northeastern badlands, I just can't even fathom actually taking their capital and whenever I try and go for a settlement an army zooms past me to fuck up one of my cities
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>>144630202
I'm just an imperial looking out for my knight bros

Reminder that dwarfs will never EVER have tanks
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>>144629246
I think there is mentions of this kind of stuff in the background, but they are mostly isolated cases that never saw models produced.
They do have armored steam battleships and at least one reported battle dirigible, thought.

Plus keep in mind that there is only like a dozen steam tanks, the products of one genius that the imperials engineers are unable to reproduce, only to maintain.
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>>144630293
Reminder that dwarfs will never EVER need tanks.
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>>144630293
>Reminder that dwarfs will never EVER have tanks

tank
taŋk/
noun
noun: tank; plural noun: tanks

a heavy armoured fighting vehicle carrying guns and moving on a continuous articulated metal track.

Sounds like the average dwarf solider to me
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>>144630346
>they say as they lose another hold
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>>144630293
But Dwarf-like humans might.
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>>144630475
Sounds like your average greatswordsman desu
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Aleight guys thanks I"'m going with zombie hordes.

>>144627773
Because I have 3 armies. Have just dealt with norsca and chaos invasion and am at war with everyone since chaos weakened my empire and ever y other fucker saw a chance to destroy me. Fortunately me and the greenskins finished of the dwarves but my northern provinces have rebelled due to poor empire management early game and me expanding too fast plus raiding and the empire have taken half my lands now to the west whilst greenskin hordes continue to raise my moneymaking cities and refuse to have peace despite me killing several of their stacks
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>>144630510
>he says while getting beaten by dudes stuck in the dark ages
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>>144630694
>Dark Age
Considering 40k's Dark Age, that may not be bad.
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>>144630694
>he says as his high king gets his throat slit by an overgrown mouse
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>>144630761
>he says as his Emperor gets worn as meatsuit by a """god"""
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>>144630761
>he says as the overgrown mouse has its throat slit by an overgrown mouse
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>>144630857
Sounds pretty fun desu, better than dying like a bitch
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>they say whilst lizard masterrace blasts off into space leaving the neandertals to their petty squabbles
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>>144630938
>he says as his Emperor died like a bitch

k
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>>144629489

It isn't really important, none of the first skills have any real effect on your game. I just maxed the recruitment cost reduction to help me out in the early-game but I had a long string of victories at the very start of the game so I had Lightning Strike almost immediately.
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>>144631005
Dying in battle and ascending to demigodhood>getting memed by a rat
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>>144630891
>he says as the overgrown mouse gets stomped by a green fungus wearing armor
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>>144624631
DANSE MACABRE
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>>144631124
>Dying in battle and ascending to fullgodhood
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>>144631140

>he says as the green fungus in armor gets its throat slit by an overgrown mouse

"There are literally dozens of us"
t. Skaven
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>>144631340
Nope, he got memed by AoS ;^)
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>>144631554
>"There are literally dozens of us"
>t. Skaven
Don't listen to this silly beastman, man things. there are no such thing as skaven
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>>144626797

>every entrance to every castle looks like a runway, complete with slaaneshi freakshows showing off sigvald's deranged taste in clothing
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>>144631804
Imagine the Underway.
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If the thread dies I'm fucking putting this on the book.
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new one

>>144631389
>>144631389

>>144631389
>>144631389

>>144631389
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