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Animechosen edition

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>Total War Warhammer
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No one will remember >>144252267
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>>144287198
first for rollan!
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>>144287228
Rollan for when I complete my Empire campaign tonight. No Kemmler please.
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>>144287228
third for grimgor is the one true git
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>>144287198
THIS THREAD DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
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>spirit leech kills hellcannons

Neat
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>>144287198
Nth for TZEENTCH'S MANY GLORIES
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Has anyone noticed that mortars are unbreakable sometimes?
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GIVE ME YOUR ZOGGIN LUNCH SHINIES YA GIT
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>>144287176
Manfred actually got off his helsteed sometime between getting all his shit razed and now. Makes it a lot easier to start fireballing him, which Sarth is doing as fast as he can. But manny is fucking built, and has some ward save on him.

The other heroes were actually 2 necromancers and a vampire waifu. It's looking manageable if I can kill manfred, but it'll take a lot of time for the bird to kill four heroes and I don't think marauders are gonna hold that long.
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reminder to group your units with ctrl-g to lock them in formation, then select the group and right click an enemy to have the whole group attack-move, automatically engaging with enemies while maintaining formation
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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reminder that you can teleport to quest battles by selecting your general, and then opening up the quest, paying 5000 currency
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>>144287717

GON GET ME AN THE BOIZ SUM GOOD GRUBS WITH THESE SHINIES
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>undead army just stands while I'm shooting at them with firearms and crossbows
>they have so many troops that destroying 6 shit units didn't matter in the end
Guess I'll replay that battle and try shooting big shits to death.
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Is there any cute girl hero mods for the empire yet?
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>>144287742
The final count comes to six zombies, 10 skeletons, 2 dire wolves, a bat, 2 necros, a vamp waifu and manfred. They've begun the advance, now we get to work.
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I have question about the empire campaign. What are some general guidelines? Crush Marienburg and then attack the vampires? Use the northern most provinces as a chaos barrier?
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>>144287885

You don't even need to select your general
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>>144287948
SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTESS
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>>144287228
rolling for either dwarfs or vampire cucks
1-25 thorgrim
26-50 ungrim
51-75 mannfred
76-99 kemmler
00 - I kill myself
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What is up with the cinematic view looking completely different?
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>>144287990
you'll be just fine

t. VC player
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>>144288047
>tfw Wissenland's Lord character isn't Emmanuelle von Liebwitz

The game even mentions her in that -10 diplomatic relations event.
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>>144288121
Time to settle some grudges I guess.
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>>144288152
>tfw no kislev tzarina
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>>144288254
If you're friendly with Kislev, the generic diplomat will mention her permitting warmest welcomes and such.
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>>144288334
>warmest
heh
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>5 full doomstacks from the skaelings in marienburg turn 20
wow i thought guys were exaggerating
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>>144288382
Yeah, the greeting goes something like "warmest welcomes on this coldest something"

I really hope there's Kislev and Southern Realms DLC
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>>144287990
A dogfight breaks out on the left flank, which we easily crush. My right hand dogs are free to range around their line immediately. I want his necromancers with their 15 armor, but the vampire waifu in the tit dress is chilling with them and has 96 armor. She will shit all over my dogs before they can kill two necros, and I will need my dogs to do more than kill two necromancers if I'm going to win.


Why does the vampire in the tit dress have 96 armor?
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>>144288485
They're mostly naked men and dogs so it's not that scary
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>>144287948
>tfw no [current year] version of the adepta sororitas
kill me now
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so how likely would you guys say that Kislev and Estalia/tilea/border princes will get unique units?

seeing as how they got unique voice acting and even some unique buildings I'd say its pretty likely.

not to mention they're not counted as Empire factions with the whole Kislev and Southern Realms diplomatic cathegories.
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>>144288598
they might release the human-like factions following bretonnia to sort of "hold us over" when it comes to more unique/monster factions like skaven and the tomb kangz.

i don't know how likely, but i hope they have some interesting gameplay concepts behind them, though i haven't got anything specific in mind.
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Kneel before Emperor von Carstein, /twg/.
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>>144288863
This action does not have my consent
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Karl Franz's ghal maraz quest chain is bugged for me. Can't get past the 'station battle wizard in Ostermark' part.
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>>144288927
You have to deploy him if you haven't
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>mfw I finally beat Empire on Very Hard
>mfw finally got that fucking achievement

FUCK YES

FUCK DIPLOMACY

FUCK CHAOS

FUCK VAMPIRES

AND MOST OF ALL

FUCK MARIENBURG
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>>144288927
try stationing a battle-wizard in ostermark.
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>>144288927
did you deploy him?
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So how baby orcs are made?
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>>144287486
Tooltip in lore says theyre sentient

Pretty cool desu
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>>144288863
BY SIGMAR, NO!
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>>144289010
when an orc and an ELECTOR COUNT love each other
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>>144288863
Sigmar forbids this!
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>>144288598
>so how likely would you guys say that Kislev and Estalia/tilea/border princes will get unique units?
Kislev is a dead certainty, with access to Ice Magic as a faction unique magic lore and Katarin as a LL with the rest of the Kislev roster mostly being a reskinned Empire with a couple of unique units like winged hussars and boghtyrs and maybe at a stretch bear cavalry.

The rest I'm not sure about.
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>>144289010
They simply appear as nature seeks to balance the world in accordance to Karl Franz's sheer glory
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>>144289010

They are mushrooms
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>>144288975
>not legendary
Just kidding, fuck legendary and its arbitrary bullshit
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>>144288545
Manfred is in melee and I think it's all over already. He drank a potion of toughness, healed all the fireball damage and is now regenerating and scaring the shit out of my marauders while the bird runs to try to take him down. The stats say manfred will stomp me flat, but since he isnt mounted I might be able to keep him flat on his ass.

I've got the hounds going in now to try and get some crumbling going away from the necromancers, while some veterans of the second line try and sneak through for an encirclement. If the front line breaks, we're all fucked.
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>>144288485
the easiest way to deal with them is use agents
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Mannfred da dumb nigga
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>>144288975
Battle difficulty very hard or did you change it?
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>>144289539
It's either that or autoresolve I'd guess
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>>144288123

One's for taking screenshots, the other is for clarity when playing.
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>>144289404

You're approaching combat with vampires the wrong way. You don't fight everything, you basically just try to kite the rest of the army away while cucking the lord so that his army crumbles.
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>>144289509
>Steam Tank health that low
Did the zombies get it or was it damaged in an earlier battle?
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is this just me or does autoresolve a siege battle make you lost less soldiers than does it manually?
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Currently purifying Sylvania of vampire filth. Looking forward to restoring it to its natural state.

>>144289786
It's not just you. I only play out a siege if its an important castle like Altdorf or something for the cinematic feel.
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>>144289762
The zombies brought it down from half, to that. I was fairly surprised, but then again it was the Steam Tank versus 7-8 units

I've just finished destroying Chaos, and turned around with my two armies to declare on VC since I was already there
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>>144289539

very hard battles as well

I auto resolved most battles especially when I had overwhelming chances of victory and didn't want to waste time since I had tried at least 10 times on very hard and got smashed a lot.
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>witch hunter suddenly has feelings for vampires

this fucking heretic
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>>144289404
The waifu leaves her pet necromancers to join the scrap, and Dogs 1 and 3 shoot off immediately to go for an assassination. A group of spearmen held in reserve is going to engage them soon, and I'm probably gonna lose my dogs, but we're doing good damage to the necros already. On the left flank, the absence of the reserve spears means I can move some veterans around and start enclosing their army. I still have some veterans in the rear watching the front line carefully, and Sarthorael is actually doing decently against manfred. I'm saving my recharge scroll to get a double fireball off as soon as I've got him in kill range.

>>144289756
There are four heroes in his army, and I need time to cu ck them all. Skeleton spearmen will fuck me if I don't keep them tied up in battle, because sarthorael actually has 15 armor. And he is literally the only unit in this army that will even damage a 90+ armor unit.

Can I mention again that the vampiress in the tit dress has 96 armor?
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>TW:WH still top seller on steam
I wonder where the "Fantasy is a mistake and will kill CA" people are now.
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>>144290035
PURGE HIM!
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>Take Attila models for Slavs, and the Attila Medieval Mod for Slavs
>Liberally steal shit from the hard work done for Call of Warhammer for M2TW
>Create Kislev mod, take all credit

On a scale of 1 to 10, how well would this work. Only problem I can imagine running into is getting enough art.

Also how would one do this, I am not good at computers Sergei
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>>144290035
>>144290115
>spent months peeping on some vampire countess
>expecting him to not get any feels

Better be careful or he'll accuse you of faggotry
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ARE

YOU

A

GOD
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>>144290198
Most of the models from Call of Warhammer were stolen from WAR and Mark of Chaos anyways.
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>>144290280
ARE

YOU

MORK?
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>>144290302
>tfw gork
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I AM BELOVED
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>>144290108
More like fantasy has killed history

They will have to do something big to bring people back to history after this
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>>144288915
>>144289070
>>144289123
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>>144290393
Dwarves got rekt
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Jesus chrsit half the generals on this board are dogshit, I guaratee you click on any of the generals with a loli picture as OP and there's nothing but tripfags and samefags talking about anything but the game
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How do I catch Chaos stacks as empire? They love to sit right outside my movement range.
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>>144290297
Are you saying this makes taking models from other mods and games okay? Two wrongs don't necessarily make a right, now.

Also is this a good idea in the first place
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>>144290350
Mork > Gork
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>>144290223
the emperor is on my side heretic! you gonna purge the fuck out of the vampire filthily and you will enjoy it!
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Finally finished my first campaign as VC, do I do Empire or Dwarfs next. Empire has a much more interesting roster, but dwarfs look like a really fucking comfy campaign.
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>>144290558
>dwarves look really comfy
should we tell him?
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>>144290097
The spearmen got smashed in the side by Dog 4, who then retreated quickly to try and get them to pursue. It's worked, and the veterans on the left flank have turned instead to get a sick downhill charge on the unbraced spearmen. Meanwhile hit and run maneuvers on the right are keeping a potential zombie flanker busy, while also returning to finish off the necromancers.


Manfred is getting blown out by Sarthorael, but too slowly, I think. The vampiress is in the fight and doing work on the marauders, and Sarth has managed mostly to knock manfred around without doing much damage.
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>>144290503
them's fight'n words
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So how does Warhammer compare to the older games?
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>>144290601
haha it's comfy as hell below hard/FUCKING HELL THRESHOLD
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>>144290601

I just spent an entire campaign chasing around enemies with an all melee army. Having a campaign where I can just sit back and watch the enemy git blown apart would be nice.
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>>144290710
bretty good. still inferior to shogun 2
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>>144290503
You'z a git. Gork's betta' than Mork.
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>>144290485
Ambushes are key, especially cos they give you a huge fucking advantage anyway. If you make a weak shit bait army or an undefended village, park an ambush army in a forest between them and the enemy. I'm reasonably sure that the AI works by not being able to see your ambush army or remembering where it was, so they should just charge straight at your bait and get ambushed, unless the ambush fails.

Other option is to use whatever agent is able to block their movement. I have a level 30 banshee as VC and she consistently allows me to charge up and fuck people by basically halting their progress, especially if they have to cross a river and it makes them unable to cos they only have 35% movement.
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>>144290710
really good. even better than shogun 2
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>>144290485

only way I have found is to sick witch hunters on them as they reduce movement points by 50%
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>le chosen are gud in campaign
>chosen are fucking bogged down with vanila greatswordsmen with experience buff mod
>slow as fuck to boot
>Carl charged down and killed Archaon on his steed of FUCK YOU with melee mortars
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>The minimin percentage of armor roll that can be applied during combat is 50%, the max is 100%


There you go folks, this is why armor is so strong.
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>>144290554
Come on bro, im working with sides here too, side girls in this case. Dita Von Carstein sucks a mean dick.

Im still stomping on those grave dodgers dont worry.
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>>144290620
One of the necromancers lies torn to pieces by demon dog, while the other is well on his way to join him. The skeleton spears are already starting to crumble, and the marauder charge goes off flawlessly into their side. Two down, two to go.
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>>144290710

Simpler campaign than Attila
Deeper combat than the rest of the series
Lots of unit variety and faction diversity
Poorly balanced right now
Hard as ballz on higher difficulties
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>>144290743
Blowing the enemy up quite a bit can be done, but expect to do plenty of chasing
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>>144290803
>needing an experience buff mod
Two Exalted Heroes give 6 chevrons to all new recruits, and that Daemonic Forge thingy gives another 3 chevrons to recruits if you max it out. That's instant gold chevron.
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>>144290710
Its far better than any other TW game, and far deeper in regards to combat.

Campaign is basically the same as every other TW game too.
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>crush through the first defense
>go towards the victory point
>3 rows of thunderers and quarrelers just open fire on my lord
>he dies immediately somehow

Jesus fuck.
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>>144290835
I wish more people posted battles like this
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>>144290803
>le chosen are gud in campaign

Believing the empire internet defense force

Chaos is trash, period.
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>>144290803
Should have 'chosen' some better men for your elite units Arcuckon.

I wont be touching chaos till patch
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>>144290932
>tfw i have a lot of what i think to be interesting battles
>tfw play on the lowest possible graphical settings
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>>144290803
>I suck and dont understand counters: please rape my face
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What if instead of age of shitmar chaos pushes everyone to the brink of defeat and then grimgor and pals show up (after an adventure down south and kick the ever living shit out of archaon but not before good old grimgor gets another blow to the noggin. When he wakes up he's even more nuts about being a prophet and decides on the most kunnin and brutal plan, or brutally kunnin plan. He gathers up all the orcs and goblins and in his insanity goes on a "crusade" into the chaos wastes with the goal of headbutting khorne into submission since he's the fightiest of the gods so it would be a right propa rumble. This gets rid of the two obvious big bads along with the serious losses by skaven standards so now its all about intrigue and fighting between the rest of the lot and less eternal the end is nigh crap.
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>>144291003
meme them up with fotosketcher and you'll kill two birds with one stone
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>>144290803
>Fighting level 29 carl
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>>144290885

As in experience gives your units better stats, I feel like it could be stronger and gold chevron marauders that raid you still felt like paper so I got it. Decided to try Chaos in this run and I can see why the end times are always run out of steam.
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>>144291137
I prefer this

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Endhammer
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>>144290710
Battles are interesting with new units and heroes but a little fast.
Campaign is cool with variety but ultimately shallow and tends to swing from very difficult to very easy depending on what the AI feels like doing.

TWW is like an exciting 90 minute action movie whereas the other TWs are 3 hour long documentaries.
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>>144290835
The decisive moment has come. Three separate encirclements are happening at once, and I've chosen to send the veterans to help clear the minor battles on the flanks, so that they can all move together to crush the center later. Sarthorael activates his limit break scroll and goes on a spellcasting spree, chucking double fireballs and metal shards everywhere. I have no idea where vamp waifu went, but at this point she's an afterthought.

>tfw people made fun of my dogs
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>>144291201
Ah.

Well if anything these aren't the End Times, this is more like the Storm of Chaos where Archaon gets royally pissed on by everyone.
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>>144291265
i stand by my word. you have still too many
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>Karls dead
;_;
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>>144287228
Rolland of Brettonia.
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>>144291332
>letting the best LL die
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>>144291379
I meant in lore
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alright so Its done!!!!
I posted in the last thread desiring zombies to be changed, but as no one did I learnt basic texture swapping/modding and just did it myself, here is the result.
Zombies now look more varied/fitting weapons+ better armour sets

try it out
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696338475
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morks the best
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>>144291265
And this is it, I think. The necromancers are dead, skeletons and zombies on the flanks are crumbling, and the veterans of hel fenn and my doggies are going in for an Alexandrian charge up the steepest hill I've ever fought on. Manfred's still kicking with tons of HP, but so is my bird, and I think his army worries me more at this point.


After this battle, I think I'll reward him with a few forsaken and some hellcannons. Bird's still a bitch, but he did good today.
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Okay I'm going for a comfy Dwarves campaign next

Fatass or Ginger to start?
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>>144291332
What is dead may never die
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>>144291110

you see those chevrons on green normal level 1 units, yea they managed to get kills off CHOSEN, they had some handgunners but they couldnt shoot most of the time because it was bogged down in brutal street fighting. They took forever to chop them down and I'm sure my veteran army is 10000x more expensive than theirs.
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>>144291280
>karl franz is useless
>sigmar reborn loses 2v1 and later dies to a random clanrat
>archaon isn't even killed

Totally a curbstomp
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>>144290280
SAY MY NAME
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>>144291207
That actually sounds really good. I like it. Why couldn't GW do something intelligent like that?
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>>144291518
>necromancer miscast.webm
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>>144291523

>freeguild general
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I AM A LORD OF BRETONNIA
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>>144291545
If we had a replay of the battle we could all point out what you did wrong. Fact is you fugged up somehow.
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>>144291465
>armoured zombie exalted spearmen (heavy pikemen)
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>>144291465
Looks gud anon, nice job

BTW normally if you play on lowest settings only 1 type of unit loads in and you dont get variations, so if you get someone complaining it doesnt work thats probably why.
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>>144291523
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>>144291604
It's really well thought out, it progresses the world significantly, many of the characters we've come to love meet fitting ends, and a power vacuum is created for new heroes and villains to rise and new factions to grow, allowing a lot of room for new creative ideas in the universe to build upon

Instead they said fuck that lets make 40k with more swords
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>>144288598
kislev for sure, Estalia perhaps since they're not too far off from Empire troops model-wise. And they could make use of those morion helmets they showed in the early screenshots
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>>144291708
>>144291523
Why do they hate their own game so much?
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>>144291465
great job anon

Is modding the game difficult? I want to add more variety to the Empire and dwarfs lords
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>>144288598

>Kislev
Good possibility
>The others
Might get expanded with a dogs of war DLC, otherwise I doubt it
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>>144291509
The entire army disintegrates from the charge, and I've found the waifu.

...I think you fuckers know how this ends for her.


>tfw manfred disintegrated before you could create a dueling circle with your marauders
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>>144291647
[mounted]

>>144291702
cheers anon thats insanely helpful to know, do you know what setting determines the unit variety as while I was doing this I could get up to 5 different units, if thats just something from my settings then I can add a few more skins
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>>144291853
Because it doesn't make as much money as space marines?
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>>144291930
I figured out how to in about 3 hours. I just used pack file manager and its fairly straightforward if you've ever seen any type of coding.

you just copy the appropriate armour load section from x unit to armour load y section.

try this tut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnpQrZARMwM
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>youll never be an imperial greatswordsman cleaving apart chosen proving that aesthetic > edge
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Did easter egg youtube link anon get his big reward yet?
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>>144288598
Kislev is almost 100%

I hope after that and Bretonnia they fuck off and focus on non-human factions instead of working on every shitty boring human shitter.
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Anyone still playing older TW games or has everyone moved to TWW ?
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>>144292152
next big faction is beastmen, then wood elves

You can have the beastmen without the WE as they are also at war with brets and imperials, but having the WE without the beastmen is pretty retarded

So yeah, beastmen first, then Wood elves ( even if you didn't buy the beastmen dlc, they would appear with a limited roster)
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>>144292234
>Empire TW keeps crashing
>reinstalled S2 but not feeling like playing now
>R2 campaign is still vanilla, can't decide what mod to try out
>warhammer needs nvidia drivers because I get some tearing and I could use a bit more FPS to be comfortable

But yeah, I'll focus on WH asap
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>>144292262
Usually you get all the content of a faction update even if you don't buy the DLC, you just can't play as them. If you didn't own the beastmen as a playable race you'd still see all their stuff when you meet them as enemies.
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>>144292117
>aesthetic > edge
This, nothing compares to their fucking swag feather hats!
Time to roleplay Sigvald wanting to stomp the Empire because they're more stylish than him
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>>144291227
>TWW is like an exciting 90 minute action movie whereas the other TWs are 3 hour long documentaries.

To me, TWW is like a series of exciting 90 minute action movies that end up consisting of 9 movies and while they have flaws they're incredibly fun to watch. I can sit down and go full nolife and beat a long campaign in a day and a half, but it's so much fun and everytime I beat one I instantly want to restart.

With Shogun 2 and Medieval 2 I'd play for hours and get burnt out after wiping out 3-4 clans/factions.
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>>144291003
Just post 'em anon, /twg/ needs battles. I don't think anyone plays this series for the graphics.
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>>144291523
Does the model have realistic genitalia?

I need to know for a friend.
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>>144292461
I know that feeling, first time I ever finished a TW campaign was Asturias in Charlemagne (playing since Rome I), because slaughtering muslims was fun until the end.
First time ever I managed a long campaign victory was in warhammer because it's even more fun!
Most fun TW by far
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>>144292327
What about Attila ?
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>>144292570
You'd better move to kingdom death
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>>144292545
i forgot i can't take off realism mode on legendary, so i can't do screenshots midbattle or anything and i don't think i have enough enthusiasm to look at my own replays
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>>144292683
that said, if i do some casul campaign battles at some point i'll be sure to see if i can find any interesting battles
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>>144292629
Don't have it yet, setting was lower on the list and since my rig is getting a bit old I wasn't sure I could run it, will get it after the upgrade in a few months
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>>144292683
Replays are pretty bugged right now anyway, I wouldn't bank on those too much. I saved a campaign's worth and they're all trash.
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>>144291523
Fun fact: if you erase Deathclaw's hind legs, he looks like a chicken
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Sigmar is weak!
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>>144292629
Not that anon, but I'll definitely revisit Attila once the major mods like 1212 start coming out.
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Does anyone else have the bug where the lords and heroes keep getting chevrons from the trainer hero?
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>>144292805
keked more than I should have
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>>144292805
Fun fact: you're a nigger
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>>144292858
ANCIENT EMPIRES FUCKING WHEN REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>decent leveled Bright Wizard
>Fighting Chaos
>Fire Storm 2 chaos trolls directly and do 80% of their health

ehhhh
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I just declared myself Emperor in Rome 2. Do I want more or less faction influence to prevent another civil war? The game is pretty vague about it.
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>>144292802
hopefully i fix it. i remember having that bug back in rome 1. it ruined my first ever heroic victory
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>>144292971
>I just declared myself Emperor
Karl Franz is the one true Emperor by Sigmar's will, heretic!

afaik too much influence triggers a civil war
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Did anyone solve the Easter egg from the picture yesterday?
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>>144293079
they*

goodnight...
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>>144293170
Yeah, was a hidden youtube link and only the first view got to see it.
Dunno what it's about though
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>>144292971
>teleports behind you
>unsheathes Ghal Maraz
>Kills you
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>>144287228
Rolling
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>>144287228
Empire or Dwarfs please
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>>144293250
they just wrote this after:
A winner of the Easter egg has been found, so the prize is no longer available - but the challenge of finding the clue remains!
is there still something in the picture?
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>>144293372
Some people speculate that the knights at the bottom of the picture aren't Reiksguard but maybe Knights of Morr
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YOU GETS BACK HERE YOU WAZZOS HUNTAH GIT, I AIN'T DONE WIF YOU
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>>144293446
i think it's the flags that made me think it
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>>144287228
roll for sigmarines
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>>144292923
>things that never happened; the post
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Is modding recruitment requirements/cost/maintenance difficult? Want to make more unit types available from the start (maybe more expensive but then normalised through building bonuses).
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>>144293474

WOT DA ZOOOOG
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>>144293372
>>144293446
No, its a youtube link in the bottom right around the wall area that leads to a (now private) video of Joey congratulating the winner (there was literally only one (1) person who won) and it was an anon from here who got it. Supposedly Craig was going to give him his secret prize today. My guess is its just gonna be a DLC code for Chaos or something.
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>>144292971
I think monarchies must have a lot of faction influence to prevent it.
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>>144293624
That would be one shitty prize.
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>>144293474
I miss my Witch Hunter from Age of Reckoning.
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>>144287228

Rollan.
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>>144293550
>high level aoe fire spell never did high damage to multiple enemies who are weak to fire

stupid fuck
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>>144287228
I've done Dwarf and I'm doing Vamps. I'll round up (or down, depending on number) for what faction I'll do third.
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Demigryph halberds or normal demigryphs?
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Whats this easter egg talk?
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>>144293756
Normal for anti infantry, halberds for anti anything.
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I get the impression that I'm supposed to rush Big 'Uns as greenskins.

Boyz and Arrer boyz can't do shit vs Dwarfs.
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>>144293673
What else could it be? Having a competition like that for any kind of unreleased content is going to cause a massive shitstorm. So its either a DLC code for chaos, code for the game or a physical prize like a HK edition or a t-shirt. Either way its probably the most stupid "competition" they've made so far. Leaving everyone else in the dark. The only reason we even know about it is because a fellow understander won and posted screenshots. Fucking sekrit club bullshit.
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>>144293849
Could be something like a graphics card maybe?
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>>144293849
would anon tell us about what he won?
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>>144293836
Boys are equal to dwarf warriors on normal, but on harder difficulties they rout due to shit leadership + AI morale buffs, yes
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>>144292570
Doesn't look like it. Sorry senpai.
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>>144293836
The secret is goblins.

No, seriously, don't neglect them.
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God that was fucking shit.
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>tfw you united all of mankind and dwarfkind to banish filth off the continent.

Got to admit. This is a better feeling than genociding all of the world in previous games.
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>>144293948
>>144293937
Well the anon said he would post today after Craig got back to him, so I guess we'll find out later.
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>>144294045
Really?

People keep saying they're useless.

The idea of overwhelming enemies with a Goblin Great Shaman, 12 melee goblin stacks and 7 archer stacks does sound somewhat amazing.
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anyone knows how to use goblin fanatics, I've routed my own units because of them.
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>>144294193
>win a campaign using only flying units
How???
Aren't commanders by default ground based?
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>>144294446
Campaign battle you git
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Am I the only one who misses the pre-set formations?
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>>144294492
I wonder if taking an overpowered Karl Franz on deathclaw on his own would count
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>>144294492
oh im dumb.
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>>144294492
Manfred on zombie dragon with full stack of fell bats against 1 commander unit might be easy to get.
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>>144294340
Woah, alright, slow down. I'm talking wolf and spider riders, and maybe 2 units of night goblin archers and 2 night goblin swords.

The swords make a great crossbow screen at the front of your formation, soaking up 50% of missiles and their morale isn't a problem outside of melee combat. You can also engage them later once the scrap has started, as an extra rear charge.

The arrows poison the dwarves and keep things easier for your boyz.

The riders do... cavalry things.

>>144294424
Only use melee fanatics, it's decent to have a ball or three rolling into the enemy and then a bunch of goblins sticking everyone on the floor with poisoned knives. Arrow fanatics will always release back into their defenders.
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>>144294031
S'alright, we'll always have dat ass.
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am i a faggot if i change battle difficulty to normal instead of very hard?
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>>144294812
Oh, right.

Still, I'm talking about the early-early game here. Night Gobbos are a late-game unit.
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>>144295080
All it does is remove the leadership bonuses the AI gets, so no, not really. The game is balanced to be played on normal
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This game is brilliant.
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alright so the bretonian zombie project is going further, I learned how to put hats on the units but it seems that the regular bret 'head'model must come with a cowl or chainmail as there is quite a gap, as you can see with pic related
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>>144295197
Empire players will go all
>muh average joes
>muh underdogs
>muh fighting against monsters

Then they take uber units and are better than everyone else. The whole point of the provincial troops was combined arms to overcome the odds, not having DBZ stuff that can win on its own.
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>>144295118
A pair of spear goblins in your early game stacks work alright, again as a screen for your advance. Without poison arrows, I'd stick to orc arrer boyz for ranged. Get some riders though, boar boyz are good chargers but kind of slow to get around where you need them urgently. Harassment and disruption work better than one solid charge when it comes to dwarves.
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>>144295319
the vanguard deployment is also nice to take out artillery.
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Is magic good enough to warrant picking a Sorceror Lord over a regular Chaos Lord?
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>>144295309
Don't ever reply to me or my wife's son again
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I have just one question:

Can a Goblin Great Shaman ride an Arachnarok Spider like in the TT?
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>>144295472
No it would be too overpowered
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>>144295405
Fire and Death are pretty great, Metal isn't bad either.
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>>144295429
>sleep tight demigrypper
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>>144295584
S-Sleep tight.
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>>144295472
Not yet, but people have already made mods expanding mounts, like chaos chariots for chaos lords and sorcerers, or hellsteed for kemmler. If it's in the tabletop, I'm sure someone will get it done.
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>tfw I never want to do a Chaos campaign again after this
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>>144295678
Cleanse Norsca too
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>>144294546
I miss a lot of the quality of life features they axed for this rushed bullshit
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>>144295678
KILL THE WEAK
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>>144295658
>tfw no pet demigryph to sleep at the foot of your bed
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Humies an Stunties r fagets
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>>144295721

Okay Khorne, I'm on it.
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just made a 20 stack of demigryph halberds whats my chances of mighty crusade ?

or have i overlooked something?
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>>144296028
>Grimgor is now Sigmar Reborn
welp
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dis zogging git
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>>144295309

I agree 100% with this statement
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>>144295308
Nice work mate, hope you manage to bypass that issue.
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>>144295308

Very nice
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AI really need to re-colonize more often. Almost all of the Vamp and some human faction area is all razed, and all of Kislev.
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>>144296219
I think the AI might avoid colonizing when at war, even when it would be to their advantage.
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>>144296219

I noticed they do colonize alot more than in Attila
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RIP me
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>>144296464

>all those bloodknights

you're good
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>>144296463
>>144296425
I've definitely seen them do it more than Attila but a whole fucking section of the map is fucked.
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>>144296464

is this a mod
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GOTREK & FELIX DLC WHEN
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>>144296632
No, you just didn't download the Blood Knights yet
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>>144296464
ARE YOU A MOD?
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>>144296464
post screens

i want to see bloods.
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At least we can go out in style

In their hurry to merge their two armies, Sarthoel rushed off from his army, which Mannfred and his Terrorgheists took advantage of

>>144296632
>>144296708
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=693158356
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How do I into dawi shits
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>Playing as Empire
>Strong as fuck
>Everyone loves me
>Military alliance with every Dwarf and Human faction
>Set Archaon as war target
>Literally 10 armies riding across the map to stomp Archaon, Sigvald, and Kholek

This shit is so dope compared to my greenskin campaign where I just overwhelmed everything by myself.
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>>144291518

Nobody gave me an answer, Thorgrim or Ungrim? I heard ungrim was better?
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>>144296859
Mannfred doesn't take no shit from any giant
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>>144296980
Archaon fucking hates blood knights apparently
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>>144296859

>check comments
>people literally saying they arent good enough

Christ people are such shitters, Blood Knights are already fucking amazing
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>>144296963
You can always get both but Ungrim takes longer to unlock. Thorgrim has better passive bonuses and slightly better starting army though.

Also wtf is happening in that webm?
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>>144296859

>Casuals
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>>144297131
>Also wtf is happening in that webm?

You've never seen people dancing before?
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>>144296117
>>144296157

alright bretonian zombies complete ish, I'm not happy I wasn't able to find a workaround from the men at arms/peasant chest pieces but I did as well as I could. any suggestions?
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>>144297131
it looks like pictures from the zoo
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>>144297304
Incredible dude , keep it up!
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>>144297317
I don't see many zoo animals dancing in clothes in a crowded area.
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>>144297304
Do you have any ability to manipulate the models at all?
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>>144297304
It'd be neat if you could make those unique to mousillion
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>Mannfred falls
>Blood knights still manage to take down Archaon
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>>144297304
Doing god's work anon, keep it up
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Mod to remove chaos invasion entirely? After the eighth time it gets a bit boring
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Did that anon report back on what the price for finding the easter egg was yet?
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>>144293618

Grimgor ended up getting his ass handed to him by Karl Franz, by a fairly large margin.

What the fuck is up with that guy, he has most of his points placed in infantry upgrades and he wins over a minmaxed Grimgor of equal level?
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>>144297804

Did Grimgor get accused of ARCH HERESY?

Also I have a feeling that unit of greatswords that are subtly shown in that image has something to do with it.
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>>144297797
I still haven't got the email from Craig yet, as soon as I get it i'll share it.
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>>144297797
easter egg?
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Wich heroes should I carry with Manny? Banshees?
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>>144297879

Cheers anon.

>>144297890

There was a youtube link hidden in an image, and a twg anon found it first. And will get something for it.
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>>144297949
What image?
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>>144297941
19 Vampire waifus
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>>144297941
Blood knights
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How do you effectively siege as Orks? It feels like the gate acts way too much like a bottleneck, and taking down walls takes way too long, as well as climbing up on walls is a death sentence nowadays.
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>>144297976

http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_Warhammer_Panorama

This one
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Reposting from last thread:

1 Lord
1 Warrior Priest
8 Swordsmen
5 Spears (Shields)
4 Crossbows
2 Pistoliers

vs.

1 Chaos Lord
1 Chaos Wizard
1 Chaos Warriors
4 Marauders
5 Marauder Horsemen
4 Marauder Horsemen (Throwing Axes)
5 Chaos Hounds
1 Chaos Spawn
3 Hellcannons

Auto Resolve has this fucking mess at 50% and if I do auto it I win and only lose the god damn Warrior Priest. Clearly the game thinks this is winnable but every time I've tried to tackle this battle, I get shit on super hard and route because I can't catch anything and get easily surrounded. Is this even remotely winnable outside the lucky autoresolve?
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>>144298076
Where is it in the image?
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>>144297354
trying, I figured I want to do skeleton bretonian next just 4 fun

>>144297530
fraid not anon,I havent done modelling for years and dont deign to. purely bitswapping. I only started doing this like 7 hours ago

>>144297574
the thought is if you get that play as mousilon mod you grab these guys I imagine.
I'm sure some wizard could possibly do what you ask but you'd have to actually mod instead of just do the babby tier stuff I'm doing

>>144297628
cheers anon I just wanted these zombies to be better in this game.


alright lads so they are almost almost done. I just gotta make their weapons more lore friendly. so their is a choice, currently
20% of the units have swords
20% have an axe
40% have spears
20% have a broken polearm which looks baller.

should I keep the 40% spears for a bretonian unit, keep note its purely visual and makes no effect statswise/anything. I'm just conflicted about it.
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>>144298110
>and I only lose the warrior priest

So its an easy battle then?
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>>144298124

Bottom right, in the shadow of the stone wall.

The youtube link doesn't work anymore
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What's the best Dorf hero unit to stick with Thorgrim?
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>>144298581
Depends on army composition. Probably engineer tho.
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>>144297304
The ones with the flat top helmets look fucking awesome.

Great job anon, these look really good!
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>>144298450
I cant even see it, dude must have eyes of a hawk
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>>144298736

I had to lean forward and squint as well to notice it, I believe it's easier to spot if you invert the colour of the image
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>>144297804
Karl Franz is going to beat Grimgor almost every time because he's a Duelist. He's better against single targets but much worse in groups. Grimgor on the other hand can jump into 3-4 full stacks and send 20 guys flying in the air with each swing and never die.
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Is auto resolve completely bugged? I had a 90% win chance, instead opted to fight it since I was literally outnumbered 2-1 and I lost the fight pretty badly??
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>>144298880
Unless they're units of hammerers in which case he's fucked
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>>144298979

Some Chaos or chaos barbarian tribes units are bugged for auto resolve I believe.
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>>144298208
That weapon the guy right in the bottom centre of your image seems good for Bretonnians, looks like one of their broken halberds.

If the polearms you're talking about are just generic spears it probably wouldn't work, since Bretonnians don't use them. Any Falchions you can give them?
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>>144298247

Literally the words preceding "and I only lose the warrior priest" is if "if I auto it". My point is that autoresolve is telling me I've got a 50/50 chance on a battle that I literally have not gotten anything but a Clear Defeat on doing manually, using every cheesy tactic I can think of and can't get anywhere. Whether I charge headlong or turtle up on a hillside in a giant phalanx, I just get completely surrounded and engulfed. Even their shitty warhounds give me trouble. When I set my Pistoliers to skirmish, they either run bug retarded into some woods to the side (instead of toward my line) and get chased down or refuse to back off in the first place, taking a charge despite being on skirmish. I just wanted to know if anyone (like say a Dwarf Player) can tell me what to do when dealing with the All Cav From Hell here. Is autoresolve just fucking with me?
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>>144298987
In the quest for Grimgor's Blood Forged armor I was getting fucked so I withdrew every single unit I had and let Grimgor fight all 400 dwarf miners and warriors and he ended up dicking them all

I have no experience fighting hammerers though.
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>>144298979
Auto resolve is generally more efficient than fighting manually unless you have the right units to counter the enemy or some other advantage like walls or the underway.

It's pretty much the same as it was in Rome 2 and Attila.
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>>144298698
cheers anon
>>144299060
yeah I ended up giving 20% of them "peasant spears" aka 2 pronged ones.
as for falchion esque, best I could find was another broken polearm so using that.


what I would kill for is to know if I can create a 'dud'item entry which shows up as nothing so not 100% of the units are helmeted
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>>144298110
>>144299075

Just corner camp, looks easy
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>>144298014
Hmm, the blood knights and company taking out the spearhead of the Chaos invasion has left it without armies once again, since Kemmler could easily sweep up Sigvald and Kholek's armies

Right now I'm building up an army for Mannfred, I've got Kemmler's in Eastern Oblast, one parked in Grunburg for half an eternity, just to make sure KF wouldn't get any funny ideas, one on my north-western border to keep the Norscans out and one on it's way to progress Kemmler's artifact quest

What do I even do now? I'm friends with everyone, the strongest around, and got an economy for 20 armies
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>>144299234
FUCKING EUREKA
figured it out, I can now get not 100% of the units wearing helmets
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Gonna start a vampire cucks campaign on very hard.

Mannfred or Kemmler?

Kemmler got them sick ethereal starting units but then again, Mannfred's got a varghulf.

So which one would you say is the better one to start with?
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>>144299441
kemmler, you unlock manfred after completely taking sylvania

as manfred you wont get kemmler till mid-late game.
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>>144299441

Ethereal units are pretty shit desu, especially hex wraiths. But then again so is the varghulf. Pick you poison
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>>144299496
Good enough reason for me, I'll do Kemmler then
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>>144299441
Mannfred is stronger overall but like most LL's, he's WAY easier to unlock than Kemmler. If you want to have both at one point, I'd grab Kemkem because he's a bitch to unlock
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>>144299441

Kemmler is better at the start due to his units, but Mannfred is just flat out better than Kemmler, so while it may be a bit harder at the start, Mannfred is the way to go.
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>>144299413
Noice
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>>144299413
Good job, have you considered not making all the zombies wield weapons? Considering there's no matches attack animations and zombie flailing strangely with their arms would look legit anyways.
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>>144287228
ROLLLLLLLLLLL
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>>144287228
Anyone but Azhag since i just finished my Orc campaign
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>>144299752
You just had to talk.
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>>144299752

Rekt
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>>144292678

2 Varghulf, graveguard and hero spam. But don't fight them, turtle hard, throw zombie armies at them to grind them down with attrition. Thy'll usually chug right for you, they end up in dwarf lands if you can deflect them. Use your main army to pick off isolated armies and to scare them off sieging your castles. You're grinding them down, losing your main army can lead to you being stuck in your castles. Also use your vargeists right when defending, putting them on the wall when the siege towers open with the unit that's already there will break the attackers in no time, then move on to the next, don't waste them on the gate until all infantry is dead on the walls.
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>>144299752
#NeverAzhag
#FeelTheGrimgor
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I'm playing some custom battles in Third Age: Total War (Divide and Conquer) as Elves to find out how to properly play them
What do I do against giant enemies like trolls or great beasts?
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>>144299562
cheers
>>144299641
no i haven't but thats a brilliant idea
I'll try making another dud entry but the lowest% I can do is 20% , so 20% would appear 'unarmed'

anyway helmet/non helmet ratio sorted
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>>144299752
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>>144299839
20% unarmed is more than fine, just a bit more diversity in the unit and zombies to me feel a bit weird when ALL of them carry weapons
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How can i defeat empire after Age of peace pop-up? Im playing as VC did all the work with chaos by myself and now empire have all western dwarfs and bretonnia as millitary allies . I have 9 provinces and i can expand north from kislev but it just chore. Greenskins killed dwarfs and are sending troops agents almost non-stop from south. What do ?
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>>144300159
Spread corruption and have them deal with vampire rebels.
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>>144300159

> did all the work with chaos by myself

This is where you fucked up
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>>144300159

Send out agents to corrupt lands, cause rebellions, swoop in and take ruins after the rebellions have done their work. Try to poach some of the empire's millitairy allies. Or try to get the orcs to attack them, camp your armies where the orc stacks come from and watch them just turn around.
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>>144287228
rollin
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>>144299752
Get fucked bastard.
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>>144300159
They should start warring with eachother soon after age of peace(at least it says so in the pop-up).
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>>144287228
Just finished chaos on legendary so lets go!
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>>144300086
alright anon after testing wiith 'unarmed' you'd be suprised how many underarm lunging punches are done so I may have to revert it for personal taste. however here is a link to the version with 20% unarmed. though
s000 dot tinyupload dot com slash index dot php?file_id=02613676408867210541
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spoopy gobbo pls
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>Nagash about to ascend into god status
>le ratmen agent assault building destroys his black pyramid
>Egil Styrbjorn about to get his son destined to be powerful
>le holy grail agent assaults army
>Wulfrik the Agent
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>the bar is entirely red
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>>144300734
>win anyway
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>>144300236
After archaon took out kislev he went straight down to my lands, after that more stacs followed. I had no other choice but to deal with him.
>>144300316
I like this idea, i try that in middleland lands first. What agent is best suit for this? My banshes are busy non-stop in southpass by the moot.
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C'mon world, step it up.

I only have Empire and dorfs left now.
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>>144300681
No probs, its your mod so do whatever you feel works best. Thanks though, looks great
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>>144300734
>>144300772
This
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>>144300734

Sometimes it's artificial. The bar for this battle was pure red but it apparently didn't take into account the Mr Catrazza was almost only fielding handgunners which I promptly disorganized by vanguarding night gobbos and then following up with a charge to the flank with 3 Orc chariot units and the Warboss on a boar.
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>>144300827

Wight kings have a stance that gives - happyness while still spreading corruption, so that's great.

I forgot which agent it was but if they have anti corruption or happyness buildings somewhere you may need to destroy them to get the rebellions going faster, I believe it was the vampire lady or banshee that did that. Just be aware that this will mess up relations.

Also build corruption buildings in adjecent land to get osmosis corruption going.
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>>144300907
I want to suck the penis of an Arachnarok Spider.
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>start greenskins
>go south to finish off redshits
>dorfs show up with 2 stacks and sack my towns triggering an uprising
>restart
>go north to slap the shit out of dorfs
>crooked moon get btfo in a couple of turns by azul
>can't even take dorf capital anyway because boyz can't win without flanking
>restart
>rush south and smash azul
>rush north and slap the shit out of dorfs
>top notz shitters show up and wipe me
How the fuck do you start orcs? Is it purely luck.
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>>144300937

1 unit of Night Goblins was enough to make him turn his entire army to face them.
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>>144300965

Before I forget, if they dont dislike you, try to get millitary acces so you can get your lord camping in their lands as well. Mannfred with his legendary weapon gives like +8 corruption or something.
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>>144300907

>1 remaining
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So guys, do you autoresolve most of the battle or fight?
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JESUS FUCK BOAR BOYZ ARE SO FUCKING SLOW

THEY ALMOST CAN'T CHASE INFANTRY
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>>144301204
Depends on enemy army composition, if they have a balanced army I tend to fight it. If it's shit like 10 pieces of artillery then no.
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>>144301135

Seeing this made the Shaman very happy and he ordered a full on gobbo charge to catch the humies in an awkward situation.
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>>144301195
to warn the rest
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>>144290503
U WOT
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>>144300965

Yeah, VC needs all the agents they can get. Once you get a proper corruption ball rolling there isn't much that can stop you. Most enemy armies will tend to avoid your lands and the constant rebellions will bascially give you free cities soon enough.

Worthless on highger difficulties though because of that static bonus to public order the AI gets. I use a mod that removes that and it makes the game fifty gajillion times more fun. They deal with public order just fine.
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>>144301204

Autoresolve most things over 75% in my favour

I'll fight it out most of the time, even if its a shitty settlement being sacked by 3000 dudes just so I can kill more than what I might have gotten during an auto resolve.
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>>144301121
>Is it purely luck.
yes
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Will lowering the battle difficulty on a very hard campaign make it so you dont get the achievement when you win the campaign?
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>>144301121

Every game is different.

Sometimes Marienburg ends up soloing Nordland and later Middenheim, sometimes they don't.
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do you guys think auto-resolve should not be available in legendary but with a nerf to the bonus battle ai stats from current legendary so that their troops are still better just not as stupid as gobbos beating dawi warriors
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>>144301308

Yeah, it's doable on hard still, but VH and legendary the corruption mechanic just becomes something that works against you

>Low corruption + Difficulty adjuster just cancels out militairy pressence

Such bullshit
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>>144301443

No, battle difficult doesn't change anything. Just switch it to Normal and enjoy your non-cheating AI.
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>no mordheim

ree
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>>144300681

They're looking pretty great. Basically just random them up. Like the corpses have been gathered everywhere end thrown into combat, either with their hands, or whatever they could grab or died with.
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Does anyone have any tips for killing the Chaos for good as the empire, or do I just need to attack them over and over again until they die.

I'm aware that everyone needs to be dead before I dunk Archaon but it seems like everytime I think they're all gone, there's one random group way off that lets him respawn.
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>>144299752
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>>144296093
>what a loser
Is Grimgor Trump?
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>>144301662
We'z gunna build a wall of gits
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Are Savage Orcs better than regular orcs?
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I don't know if necromancers can get boners but this guy definitely feels it
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>>144301575
aight, thanks
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>>144301726

I think so, I think the war paint gives them passive ward saves which makes them surprisingly good.

At least they've always fared better than my regular boyz.
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>>144301886

They don't get ward save, they get phys resistance

Right know it's almost the same since spell damage is trash but after the patch it will hopefully be a more important distinction
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>>144301751
Is there any reason to take a Necromancer lord when you can take a vampire lord and a necromancer hero?

Also holy shit Necromancer heroes are amazing. I deploy my free quest one in eastern Sylvania after a few battles and he gives me 20% off buildings and 15% more income.
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>reddit did it again

some useful info if someone need

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/4m9sdw/how_melee_attack_and_defense_armor_and_damage/
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>>144301965

I play on Medium and spells are actually fairly good.

Not against super-armored faggots like Chaos though, or dorfs.
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>>144301583
It was razed to the ground and completely obliterated wasn't it?

Would have been south of Essen on the border with Sylvania.
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>>144298026
Played around photoshop, love the screenshot anon.
http://i.imgur.com/huoap2k.jpg
>mfw 4chan didn't let me attach it.
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>>144301623
PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU HELP
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>>144301975
>Is there any reason to take a Necromancer lord when you can take a vampire lord and a necromancer hero?
I dunno, I've mostly been taking the battle effect things anyway, so it doesn't make all that much difference. They don't really do much fighting or anything
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>>144301975

The vampire hero is a lot better than the necromancer hero
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Where can I learn up on the lore here?
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>one of the legendary lords of the end times runs away from a bunch of garrison force orks and gobboz
>literally lives in hovels made out of scrap metal and shit for glue
>literal lord of the apocalypse feels that these shit-smelling dumb gits is far too much for him to handle
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>>144302741
1d4chan

warhammer wikia
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alright found something similiar to falchions, mods good to go

>>144301619
yep, weapons are nice and varied now. seems to fit thematically

link here for those interested in bretonian zombies
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696421087
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>>144287228
time to get disappointed
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>>144302090
The entire concept of armor piercing damage breaks the game.
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tfw when i missed the chaos deadline


is it worth it?
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>>144299410
Please reply
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>>144303041
no, chaos is shit
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>>144303041

Currently, they're literally the worst faction in the game. And that's saying something with VC in the game.
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>>144303015
The concept was somewhat in older games, it will need some tweaking
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>>144303069
Is their campaign any good?
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>>144289285
Nature fails
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>>144303138

It's just a worse variant of the Ork campaign, only that if you don't go south immediately you'll probably end up getting fucked hard later on.
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>>144303041
For $8, no fucking way. Unless you're really a chaos fan I guess.
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>>144303138

If you like hordes, then sure.

If you don't like hordes, then no.

>>144303061
>>144303069

Why are Chaos shit? They have a ton of strong units like Chosen and the like.
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>>144302741
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!ZZwyAACQ
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Stupid question here guys, does battle time affect the AI? When I start the battle they just stand there and do nothing. I'm playing early game Vampire Cunts. Current strategy is drown them in zombies with other units catching any outliers. Would really appreciate some help will dump Vampire Counts in return.
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>>144303304
Chosen are shit, great swords rape every variant but gw chosen, and only barely
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>>144302741

>tfw CA literally had a "HOW THE EMPIRE SHOULD LOOK" book and didn't fucking follow it

FUCK.
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The in-game game-guide is annoying to use, anyone have a link to the web page version like the previous games have?
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>>144303652
I'm a sucker for fantasy settings. I was just curious. Can I get a lot by reading the novels around the setting or do I need to buy a rulebook?
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>>144303304

Here's the official tier list on units and their cost effectiveness.

God tier units:

Greatswords
Black orcs
Demigryph knights (Halberds)
Quarrelers
Fell bats
Grudge throwers

High tier units:

Demigryph knights
Rock lobba
Halberdiers
Handgunners
Outriders (GL)
Longbeards
Goblin wolf riders
Savage boyz
Chaos warhounds/dire wolves
Crypt horrors
Miners (BC)
Steam tank
Spearmen

Mediocre units:

Swordsmen
Crossbowmen
Empire knights
Goblin wolf archers
Goblin spider riders
Goblin spider rider archers
Crossbowmen
Dwarf warriors
Ironbreakers
Doomdiver
Zombies
Skeleton spearmen
Grave guard
Cairn wraiths
Orc boyz
Big uns
Savage big uns
Thunderers
Black knights
Forsaken
Chaos marauders (great weapons)
Dragon ogres
Longbeards (GW)
Goblins
Orc arrer boyz
Arachnarok spider
Boar boyz big uns
Hellcannon
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So I'm playing as Sigvald. I don't understand the requirements needed to unlock Archaon. I already slaughtered my captives 10 times and still no Archaon?
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>>144287228
Please not Chaos. Please not Chaos.
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>>144303696
Go on /tg/, there's a mega link with all the army books and some relevant supplements.
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>>144303698
>Arachnarok spider
>mediocre

nice meme
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>>144303698

Low tier units:

Reiksguard
Pistoliers
Outriders
Spearmen (shields)
Great cannon
Mortar
Irondrakes (both)
Slayers
Hammerers
Miners
Cannon
Trolls
Chaos trolls
Night goblins (any form)
Goblin archers
Savage orc arrer boyz
Giant
Chaos Giant
Orc boar boyz (both)
Savage boar big uns
Hexwraiths
Black knights (lances)
Skeleton warriors
Grave guard (GW)
Crypt ghouls
Terrorgheist
Varghulf
Chaos marauders
Chaos warriors
Chaos warriors(GW)
Chosen (GW)
Chaos spawn
Chaos trolls (armoured)
Chaos warhounds (poison)
Dragon ogre shaggoth
Chaos knights
Marauder horsemen (both)

Oh shit what the fuck are you doing tier:

Luminark of Hysh
Helblaster Volley Gun
Helstorm Rocket Battery
Flame cannon
Organ gun
Gyrocopters (all shapes)
Goblin wolf chariot
Orc boar chariot
Vargheists
Crypt ghouls
Chosen
Chosen (halberds)
Chaos warriors (Halberds)
Chaos knights (lances)
Chaos chariot
Gorebeast Chariot
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>>144303698
Reminder to report this shitpost whenever its posted.
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>>144303798

God tier lords and heroes:

Karl Franz (Deathclaw)
Azhag (skullmumcha)
Mannfred (Hellsteed, Zombie dragon)
Witch hunter


High tier lords and heroes:

Chaos sorcerer lord (death, Manticore)
Runesmith
Empire captain/paladin (barded warhorse/pegasus)
Balthasar Gelt (Imperial pegasus)
Chaos sorcerer lord (metal,Manticore)
Night goblin shaman
Vampire
Wight king (barded skeletal steed)
Louen (Beaquis)
Lord (Bretonnia, Hippogryph)

Mediocre tier lords and heroes

Lord (Imperial gryphon)
Warrior priest
Light wizard
Dwarf lord
Exalted hero (barded chaos steed)
Orc shaman
Warboss (Warboar)
Chaos sorcerer (metal, manticore)
Chaos sorcerer (Death, Metal, Chaos steed)
Kholek suneater

Low tier lords and heroes

Bright wizard
Thane
Ungrim Ironfist
Thorgrim grudgebearer
Celestial wizard
Damsel
Grimgor Ironhide
Goblin big boss (Giant spider)
Vampire lord


Oh shit what the fuck are you doing tier (lords and heroes edition):

Prince sigvald the magnificent
Archaon the everchosen
Master engineer
Chaos sorcerer lord (fire)
Goblin great shaman
Chaos sorcerer (Fire)
Banshee
Necromancer
Master necromancer
Heinrich Kemmler
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What should I be focusing on early-game as Dwarfs? Where are the best spots to expand?
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>>144303698
>>144303798
>>144303879
>official
stop posting this fucking retarded list you goddamn autist, this is literally just spam
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>>144303746
Thanks.
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How does one skill up azhag properly?
Do you give him melee shit or magic shit?
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>>144303908
Secure The Silver Road and beat back the inevitable orc forces and then head for Mount Gunbad.
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How do I git gud with Giants?

They don't seem to smash units as I thought they would and they get mobbed pretty easily or sniped by artillery.
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How do I actually win the Cloak of Molten Metal battle? Even with a full stack I get my shit pushed in.
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>>144303698
>>144303798
>>144303879

>official

Stop posting this bullshit. Your list is shit.
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>>144303652
IS THERE A MOD THAT FIXES IT?

FUCK YOU FOR MAKING ME AWARE OF THIS

NOW I WONT BE HAPPY UNTIL IT'S 100% LOREBOOK BASED
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>playing as dwarves, already conquered everything in the south
>chaos event comes
>every faction with more than 1 territory is my military ally
>I will just sit back in my comfy mountains and let Karl and his lackies deal with the brunt of the chaos forces
>then swoop in and mop their weakened forces up in one glorious military campagin
>Karl gets cucked, my dawibros go down in history as the ones who stopped the invasion

feels good to be efficient
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>144303879
>144303798
>144303698

Never seen such bad bait.
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>>144304056

Okay, I think I went north too early. Before Thorgrim could get back Grimgor sacked the shit out of my minor settlements down there.
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>>144287228
Rolling
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>>144304091

>trusting Dawi
>ever

I seriously hope none of you do this
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>>144304091
Know what I like about dwarfs? They are the best faction, bar none, to go and mop up the Norscan tribes. The underway ignoring any and all attrition while letting you go over mountains and water is godly.
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>>144304193
Except the Empire is 100x superior
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>>144303704
>>144303704
>>144303704
Hello twg. Please answer me.
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>>144299806
thanks for the reply, cross thread even. i just abused ambush and the chaos were easy. enjoying taking the empty provinces up north and looting the varg.
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>>144304237
This tbqh.
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>>144304132
You might also want to get an additional stack with something like 10-20 units in it while your main army heads north. Even if it puts you into negative income for a couple of turns. Once you secure your northern province, there's nothing up there but dwarfs, and while Karak Kadrin usually starts shit, they're also easy to get a peace agreement with. Most of the time anyway.
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>>144304249
Did you kill them in a row?
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>>144303940
>>144304075

>Single player champions mad that their opinion is irrelevant
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>>144304423
No. Why?
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>>144304493
I only got the Orc equivalent to go by but i only unlocked Grimgor after killing captives 10 times in a row altogether.
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>>144303698
God Tier Units:
Demigryphs (both)
Iron Breakers
Chosen
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>>144304567
I see. I will try this. Thank you.
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>>144304625
>chosen
>God tier

Kek
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>>144304472
>an autistic faggot spams the same list in every single thread despite the fact that every single time several people tell him to stop posting the fucking thing
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>>144304625

>Chosen
>Iron breakers

Lol.

That list is pretty much correct, don't try to change it especially with that kind of retarded claim
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>>144287228
>144287228
>Why is Sigvald so perfect
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>pissed off how annoying Az quest is
>decide to load it up from the main menu to see what CA considers a fair fight against that bullshit army
>mfw when I see this
You're a bunch of fucking hacks CA
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>>144304676

>2 campaign champions get mad at the fact their opinion is discarded by people that play multiplayer and understand what real balance means

ftfy, balance is irrelevant in single player, only multiplayer people are allowed to speak about it.
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>>144304813
>having problems with literally any of the quest battles
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>>144304948
Kholeks is almost impossible with the army they give you
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>>144304948
Anyone can cheese a quest when you vastly overpower it with top tier units

But this is supposed to be his early game quest where you get his helm and magic, at fucking level 8

And they give you his level 25 mount AS WELL AS THE VERY FUCKING MAGIC YOU ARE PLAYING THE QUEST FOR
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>>144303698
>Goblin Wolf Riders
>Not God Tier

Shit tier list kill yourself
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>>144304835
>someone goes on a zimbabwean cartoon discussion forum and pretends that their opinion is some sort of official agreed upon list rather than one autist's opinion that he is desperately trying to push as 'the' tier list in hopes if this actually happening so he feels a sliver of approval from his anonymous friends, the only ones he has
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Wew, good job Arkekon

Your Norscan minions give me more trouble than you
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>>144305062

That's not my list and I pretty much agree with everything on it, also if you visit the balance forums you will see it's what most people feel about the game.

Death lore dominates, Chaos and VC are generally trash, monster units are not cost effective, lords that are forced on foot are also weak et.c
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>>144305134
>chaos undivided
Wut
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>>144305134

>Varg is the last chaos tribe I have to destroy as VC
>I'm already stretched to my limit fighting that far North
>These smelly dumb Norscan scum who apparently only own 2 settlements are spitting out doom stacks every 2 turns somehow
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>>144302948
it wasn't actually up at all, my mistake.

I finished off those Bretonnian Zombies, steam download is
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696421087

also I have this horrible idea I should do mousillon themed vc race reskin, god help me.
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>>144305247
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691490041
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So how exactly am i supposed to deal with Norsca tribes as VC? Even the Chaos itself is gone, but this bastards keep shitting out their horse skirmishers one after another, and while i can defeat them easily, i can not replenish soldiers. In the time it takes me to move an army back to my territory, patch it up and get it back - they have already built their shit anew. Fucking cucks.
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>>144305359
Nice job anon
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Am I doing allright?

Should I destroy the Dorfs right now or keep expanding towards empire?
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>>144305359
>Terrorgheists with Bretonnian heraldry

I don't know if this is Radious or not
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>>144305048

>god tier for being able to kill off artillery, but rout immediately in any kind of actual combat

ye nah
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>dwarf normal campaign
>get overrun by greenskins
>barely hold on and stabilize

>hard campaign
>eliminate them in 27 turns
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>>144305391
But its not chaos undivided, they literally have a lord of change
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>>144304656
Are you sacrificing them or killing captives?
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>>144287198
>playing as chaos
>have two full stacks of fully upgraded units
>each unit is at least rank 6
>i have 200,000 in the bank
>for some reason the empire went way up north with 3 full stacks to try to stop me
>one stack led by karl, the other by balthasar
>first battle i wipe the floor with them and injure both karl and balthasar, with only my main stack
>watching empire swordsmen and spearmen getting raped by chosen, hellcannons, dragon ogre shaggoths, and prince sigvald the swag.
>mfw i will now take the battle to the empire
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>>144303698
>>144303798
>>144303879

Why do you keep posting this when you just keep getting laughed at?
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>>144305587
...and.
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The Green Team reigns Supreme

What now
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>>144305742

Who cares about campaign champions getting butthurt?
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>>144305768
...or.
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>>144291953
>>144291465
I wonder if it's also possible to remove the glowing textures from the grave guard.
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>>144305537

lets not be scary now
I'd probably just do the humanoid ones anwyay desu

>>144305474
thanks anon, trying to work out skeletons atm
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>>144305817
Now you let rebels take it all
Or start a new xampaign
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>>144305821
>campaign champions
This is the most autistic insult I have heard all day, and it's 11:55pm
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>>144305821
Seems the only one getting butthurt is the MP autist.
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>>144305520
Turn?

Personally I would expand towards the Empire first. The more land you have, the bigger and more armies you can field to fuck the stunties.
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So if i build a guard house in settlements. (not the region capital)

Do i have walls?
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>>144306026
If you get the second level of it yea
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>>144305520
Looks exactly like my borders atm, minus the Border Prince territory. Prolly wasn't a good idea expanding down there though.
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>>144306026
At its max rank, yes
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>>144306026
Only for the second tier of those, but yes.
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>>144306063
>>144306071
>>144306082
cheers
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Are the two roman groups supposed to be the hard start on attila?
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WTF CA!?
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Christ allying with orcs as vc is near impossible
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>>144306170
>are the two empires that got their shit kicked in on all fronts during the time period of the game supposed to be the hard start

Gee, I dunno.
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>>144305981
59, think I'm going to reinforce my economy and armies this next turns and then wreck Karl Darks.
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1-5 Vamps Kemmler
6-0 Emps and this time I don't fuckup by hiring pistoleers
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>>144306186
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>>144306197
Really? I killed some stunties, they left me alone ever since.
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>>144306186
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>>144306268
Why would you ever want to play kemmler
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>>144306242
Now that I think about it, going south and taking border lands and such is probably a good idea. That allows you to expand and also lets Empire take the brunt of the Chaos attack.
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>>144306220
Yeah but it could end up being pretty easy to hold their land which is why I asked
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>made a mod turning all quest items to level 1
>didnt think about the consequences
>mfw I find grimgore with all his items
I have made a terrible mistake.
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>>144305910

I kind of like the whole Orcs/Dwarfs stick to the mountains thing - I just wish there were more mountains.
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>>144306325
The challenge.

>>144306376
If you're the WRE, it's really not.
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>>144306325
>Why would you ever want to play kemmler
Because Mannfred is the least interesting vamp and having his lord kill nuke at level 1 trivialises early game

(also qt female vamps have a purpose if you don't have mannfred)
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Did CA responded to OUR GUY about the easter egg?
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What did OUR GUY win from this twitter bullshit and what was the big reveal?
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>>144306487
>I play Kemmler so I can have a lesser form of mannfred in my army
Genius
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>>144287228
THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
I love Karl Franz's voice
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>>144306658
They explicitly mentioned wanting a challenge mate

Mannfred really does make the game piss easy, even his starting units are way stronger
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>>144306912
Kemmler isn't even a fun challenge tho, he's just a liability
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>this is the army schwartzhafen is sending to help me defeat the empire
i should have fucking annexed you long ago you worthless pieces of shit
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Is there a reason why the AI refuses to recruit anything but ranged units?
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>>144290503
But gork is brutally kunnin!
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>>144307015
Well, hes the orc bane. He has no idea how to fight humans.
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>>144287228
for memes
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>>144307080
>"send the grave guard in the front to engage the orks in melee combat, then send the vargheists and black knights out from the tree line to rush their archers and artillery, then charge into their backline, if they break, slaughter them, if not, pull back, charge again and repeat until they do"
>"oh, they're human? fuck if i know, how about 1000 zombies then 1 unit of everything else"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eFzZHeBWzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eFzZHeBWzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eFzZHeBWzA

STUFF
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>>144305838
I'm not sure anon, I know that swapping the heads to a "human"head didnt get rid of it


also Im making skeletons, these are pretty much done skeletonian swords
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>>144307543
Are you giving Moussillon his own style? That's awesome!
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>>144307364
Radious btfo.

Mods are gods
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>>144307630
yeah im addicted, I should be sleeping but I am trying to make a Moussillon skin for vampire counts
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>>144307364

>no Radious
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>tfw you have 75% ward save and a once-per-battle healing item on Suneater
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>>144307956
Jesus
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>all those mods
>not a single one that add more generals

Imean, there's only 2 models for the dwarfs generals. I want to fight something else than "greybeard with a jewell" or "brownbear with beard armor"
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>>144306390
They get all their shit way too early anyway
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>>144308149
>20 turns in as dwarfs
>Grimgor comes strolling into my territory, level 13 with 2 legendary items

Okay then.
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>nearly 200 turns into my empire campaign
>torn between wiping out the vampire cunts and winning the campaign or destroying bretonnia

How easy is it to stomp Bretonnians?
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>>144308028
He won't save you
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>>144308239
Why would you want to attack Bretonnia? Wipe out the VC that desecrate your lands.
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>>144308239
>torn between wiping out the vampire cunts and winning the campaign or destroying bretonnia

Wiping out Elf Cucks takes priority
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>Tfw you play so much Total War that you start to have sexual dreams in Phalanx formation.
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>>144308469
t. Vladimir Von Batul
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Why is the steam workshop search such shit?
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So now that the game has been out for a bit and you all have been able to play it for yourselves, what is the final performance like?

How well would it run on this setup? I know that the 970 was doing really well for some reviewers I read, but im worried about my cpu. What settings do you think I could get?
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>>144308515

Keep sucking that elf cock, maybe she'll let you lick her feet evenutally
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>First Greenskin campaign
>Around turn 100+
>Been battling the Top Knotz (annoying cunts that spam arrer boyz) the entire campaign, finally pinning them down in the southernmost mountains
>Somehow despite not fighting at all for several turns they have a Waaagh! and force me to be on the defensive and fight only with Grimgor's elite stack+garrison to repel them.
>Bringing in my other stack from the west at the same time.
>Suddenly, three full stacks of Bjernfucks or whatever that norsca tribe is called on my coast, they start sacking my coast settlements.
>Then Grimgor gets fucking assassinated by a goblin.

What the FUCK
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>>144308404
Chapter objectives, got one for the southern realms too. I've got the vampires bottled up in kislev, i'll probably leave them with a province or two then peace out with them and deal with the other human realms.
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>>144308549
You know, if you are running 8.1, then getting Windows 10 is actually worth it.
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>>144288975
What is the best way you found to deal with Vamp corruption? It was completely out of control in my game and was a huge pain in the ass as i'd lose half my army by the time I got to their settlements due to attrition.
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>>144308605
Thats warhammer baby!
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>>144308602
>yes mortal, go fight the elf cuck, that corruption isn't so bad after all
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>>144308525
All search functions in steam are shit. They probably have a shitty algorithm because they made it in a hurry and never paid attention to it again.
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>>144307543
Almost more armored and competent than their alive counterparts
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Any update on --->OUR GUY<--- and his prize AKA chaos factions DLC code?
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>>144308549
Your CPU is fine. The difference between generations there is much less than for GPUs. You might not max it out, but High shouldn't be a problem at all.
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as vampire counts how do I handle chaos knight and general cav spam?(in campaign)
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>>144308605
They did a number on me the first time i encountered them too, mostly because all my stacks were in bumfuck nowhere by the time they rolled in from the coast. At least their faction was wiped out when i took out the last stack.
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>>144308659
Thats a load of horseshit
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>>144308742

>t. Bretonnian Nu-Male
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>>144308659
Terrible advice, please stop.
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>character is shouting about a red moon being in the sky

Is armour or hp more valuable on a lord?
I'm levelling franz and it's those two, charge or melee attack (chance to hit)
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>>144309078

He's right though Widows 8.1 is trash
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>>144309109
Probably health, because every other unit is armor piercing
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>no anvil of doom
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>>144308919
'Our guy' probably got told to keep his mouth shut if he wants his prize.
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F O R M A W A L L O F S T E E L
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What does Karl Franz listen to while uniting the Empire as he rides Deathclaw?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJVW42s3vrk
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>Go on Reddit
>They think VC is OP in multiplayer

Don't know what I expected really.
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>>144309375
>Going to shitty websites
>Give a shit about crappy game modes
Stay there
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>>144309375
C O S T E F F I C I E N C Y

O

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T

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F

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C

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>>144309375
Probably some guy who got assassinated with death spells.

VC can really abuse that shit if they try. Then your army is fucked from leadership drop with all the terror on top of losing the general.
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What's the word for pirates on TWW? I could only find sketchy bullshit
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>24h later and CA hasn't tell us what the easter egg price is
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>>144309561

Empire can assassinate generals easier than any other faction.
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>>144309593
Not going to happen. Only people who hack Denuvo are the Chinese and they are getting paid off to not hack it.
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>>144309593
Sartosans.
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>>144304948
>>144304813
Azhag's quest is utter bullshit

Unlocked at level 8
Requires you to travel the map with a hero to unlock it
Has the hardest quest battle in the game against 3 (three) stacks of vamps and chaos
in a corridor with no room to flank or separate the armies (essential for chaos)

And then you unlock a spell mannfred has at level 1 and a lore item that Azhag has been talking to all game

Oh and if you actually want to use azhag's magic you'd better not have spent a skillpoint all fucking game
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>when TWC goes on facebook
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>>144297304
holy shit, that looks amazing
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>>144309375
Maybe it's the Bretonnia guy I beat with VC. He spent all game trying to kill my general, while I murdered his army. He did manage to kill the general, but only 20 seconds before his entire army routed.
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>>144309732
Gonna make a mod changing that. Its actually pretty easy to change the level of the quest and even the enemies in it.

Probably going to make it a level 4 quest, and remove the third vampire wave entirely. The Chaos and flying vampire troops are hard enough for that sort of low level fight.

Considering the entire point of using Azhag is his magic, its stupid as shit you dont get it early on.

Dont know what I can do about the fact you need a tier 3 building and an agent for it though, guess people just have to rush the structure.
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>>144309732
Its quite amusing. I finally got it at turn 58 having killed off azul and built black orc barracks.

Even with 4 black orcs in my 20, it was still a close battle.

Oh well, at least i can go fight Thorgrim now. Saved 5 skill points for the hat.
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Really?
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=694078335
Is this mod historically accurate?
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>>144309774
>Andrea
A L T D O R F
L
T
D
O
R
F
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>>144310070
It's a guy
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>>144310036
Looks like fun.
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>>144309774
he's mostly right though.

Still, i doubt mods can fix anything important without fucking up a bunch of other shit on the way.
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why the fuck are the skaeling and varg allowed to pump out rank 9 stacks this easily. ontop of this shit and the attrition i'm getting a tumor.
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What technology tree should I go down as Dwarfs on legendary? What are the tings I should prioritize?
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>>144309889
thanks anon I'm actually trying to make a Mousillon reskin for vampire counts
here is something spooky. and also so so wip
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>>144310184
1. Diplomacy
2. Money
...
999. Money
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forgive my newness.

what is the best way to use heroes? i am playing my first campaign and just received a runesmith. should they act as free agents? lead armies? be embedded in other armies?
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>>144310237
>http://i.imgur.com/huoap2k.jpg
Man you're doing a great job
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>>144309774
>people unironically like having to press a formation button for every fucking unit
That isn't tactical or skillful. I know when to do it but I don't get a fun challenge out of pressing the fucking button for every fucking unit/group ever in every fucking battle ever
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>>144310524
I miss spear walls
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>>144310172
Spent a good 60% of my first campaign as Empire just trying to defeat Varg and Skraeling. Chaos wasn't shit compared to them. In fact no one compared, which is weird considering they're hardly even acknowledge in-game or in the lore.
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>>144310070
andrea's more of a male name than a female one
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I'm about to start a Legendary Empire campaign. Can I get some last minute pro tips?
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>>144310237
That's great anon

are you reskinning the lords too?
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>>144310407
Depends on the agent

A runesmith is best used as a buffer, sitting behind your lines and using his runes to keep troops alive. If you need he can also fight pretty well.

Just look at their skills and see what they give.
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>>144310524
you dont have to press it if you dont want to

sometimes i get bored and i auto-resolve since fighting AI is not really tactical or skillful beyond the 50th time
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>>144310631
get lots of steam tanks and franz on deathclaw as support

nice pic btw
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>>144310184
If you go full down the money you can have all the stacks
>>144310625
I tried to kill skaeling as chaos but they resettled faster than I could raze
>>144310407
Runesmith near your infantry troops to fight and spam buffs
Engineer near your artillery to make them good
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>>144309774
It was disappointing to see there were only two formations. Not sure why they choose to do that. What does it add to the game?
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>>144305821
>campaign champions

Wow, sick burn.
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>>144310454
thanks anon Its hard having to compromise though

what do you and twg even think of this for example
pay no attention to anyone but foreground knight, he has a real cool effect going on BUT slight clipping on side of helmet.
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>>144310887
>when you and your boys drink from the wrong grail
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DWARFED
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>>144290035
How the hell is he even potentially witch hunter, if that guy like vampire chicks!
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>>144310887
Looks great! Am I right in saying that currently there's no way to make and import your own models?
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>>144288598
What units will the border princes get? Do they even have codex?

Will they get the dogs of war?
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>>144311065

those fukken miners
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>>144309732
>they could have just given lords their real starting position instead of shoehorning them with the faction leader
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>tfw I've stayed up late playing TWW so much that I've noticeably increased my caffeine tolerance
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>>144311065
GRIMGORRR youuuu ffffuckin plonkER
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>>144311172
MINERRRRS!
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>>144311172
>>144311065
Miners are my favourite unit in the game
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>>144310631
Build walls in all of your settlements. Get Marienburg.
>>
Guys, I've never done a legendary playthrough before, but I want them achievments. I'm nervous as fuck, especially since I'm not that great at the game to begin with.

Decided to go dwarfs because I hear they are pretty easy on legendary, but im second guessing all my decisions and worrying about what to do. I dont want to lose!

Tips, advice would be much appreciated.
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>>144310407

Depending on your difficulty level, the Runesmith is your most important hero. In the bottom tree, he has a passive that greatly decreases the enemy agents' chances of success in the local region. On Legendary, this is absolutely necessary because you will be having 5-10 agents in your base and 3-4 on your ass out in the field. He also has some great defensive buffs and a poor-man's (but still very useful) version of the Fate of Bjuna which severely damages an entire unit. If your frontline is engaged and the enemy has superior numbers, popping this rune on a half-strength unit of Orc Boyz can be enough to help trying mass wavering.

Also, the Runesmith has two passives that each give -9 magic reserve for enemies in the local province. -18 magic reserve will help you immensely against the Vampire Counts especially in regions with weak winds of magic.

In terms of combat, you can help out your line infantry but don't take on whole units on your own.
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>>144311235
Yeah that'd be good
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>>144311454
lube up for Grimgor

once you get past him, it's not THAT bad
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>>144311458
>Rune of Wrath and Ruin

I fucking love that thing. Couple with the fact that the Smith is actually a good combatant in his own right, he might actually be my favourite hero so far.
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>>144310662
I'm planning to reskin the entire vc humanoid roster to fit a certain cursed province

>>144311149
not that I know of yet anon. wait for modkit
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>>144311417

>Build walls in all of your settlements

I learned the value of this in my Legendary Dwarf campaign. Riots are not even an issue and the AI is quite hesitant to attack your towns even with a couple full stacks.
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>try another Otomo game because Christianity and guns
>mfw guns are utter trash
>fire slower and have less range than bows
>enemies close the distance at sanic speed
>fire so god damn slow
>can only put down bamboo walls when defending
>doesn't matter because stacks with 50% bows will melt your army anyway

I love Shogun 2 but god damn is Otomo hard as balls.
>>
Is there a way to hide the interface in the screenshot modes?

I press insert/delete but there's always that massive text telling me to press this to exit
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>>144311751
But Matchlocks are amazing in defensive sieges. And they instant kill just about anything.

Sure they have less range and are slower, but they slaughter things.
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>>144311674
I thought the AI became hesitant after I beat back over 7000 ork scum at Grenstadt with garrison and a full stack
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>>144311751
>playing Otomo
If you wanted to get priests to turn the rest of Japan into a rebel zone, along with Nanban trade ships, then just conquer Kyushu as Shimazu, convert, and then get your daimyo to commit sudoku on the nearest enemy stronghold.
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>>144311751

Guns really shine during siege defenses and hilly terrain. Their lack of range is compensated for by the elevation and their damage will take out most samurai units. Which you will appreciate on Legendary/Very Hard where you will be required to score Heroic Victories left, right and centre to survive.
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How do i use ethereal? bring one for terror and hope i can win without 850 gold?
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>>144311751
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>>144311764
k
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>still no Nvidia drivers
I feel cucked
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>>144311764

Press K to remove the UI and ALT+K to remove UI to make it movie-like.
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>>144312080
GUYS WE GOT A NERD
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>>144312083
にございます
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>>144301478
Tell me about it, in my VC very hard I allied Marienburg as soon as I could hoping they would be a minor distraction to the empire.
They fucking rekt all the armies Karlos sent up there and then they proceeded to take all the coastal zone + kislev.
They were top tier bro. I ended up killing them when my corruption crippled them so hard that they had revolt everywhere. kek.
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>>144312080
ethereal is shit

you pay for a 75% physical damage reduction on a unit with 25% of an average unit's health
you are better bringing any other source of terror
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What Warhammer faction has the best heavy infantry?

I always love heavy infantry factions in TW.
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>>144312318
I guess dwarfs? Even their ranged units are "heavy infantry"
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>>144312116
I'm using 5 months old drivers and they're working perfectly. Why is there any need for new drivers?
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>>144312318
Empire has the most cost efficient heavy infantry, dwarfs the most awesome. Haven't really tried orcs.
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>>144312318
Chaos
it's shit for multiplayer but on a campaign you will be swimming in gold anyways
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>>144312383
Because drivers for a particular game helps performance? Which means I could run 60fps at higher settings more frequently.
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>>144312318
Dwarves/chaos.
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>>144312412
COST EFFICENCY
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>>144312318
It's supposed to be chaos warriors

But they don't work in tw like they do on tabletop
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>>144312575
Well they give you more for the gold spent on them than any other melee unit. What else would you call that.
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>>144312696
C O S T E F F I C E N C Y
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>>144312318
Chaos and Dwarfs.
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Hit points or Melee Defense when I upgrade a lord?
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>>144312431
But Chaos doesn't use gold. They use Favor : ^ )
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>>144312980
Melee defence
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>>144312980
Hit Points.
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>>144312980
Neither
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We did it Reddit. My first Very Hard campaign in a TW game. Deciding whether to move onto Legendary right now or play something else until a patch hits.

>Almost got pushed back to home province by Top Knotz fucks
>Chaos fucking my shit up at the same time
>Saved by Tilea horselords after uniting with all of the manlings and other Dwarf holds
>Book of unfulfilled grudges causes riots all over the land

I got carried by the AI at a certain point, basically. I had no way to combat the amount of raiding going on in my territory and kept playing city tag with the savage orcs. Was finally able to push them out with the help of my allies and secure all of the other Dwarf holds. Eliminated the vampires on my way north for no real reason (they begged me for peace several times) and kept the manlings off my back after Chaos was gone by funding their civil war with my massive amount of mine money.
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>>144312980
It depends on the lord, really.

The more melee defense you've got, the more mileage you get out of your HP. And the more HP you've got, the more your melee defense stretches it.
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>>144310887
>>144311618
I like where you're going with this
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What do you think a Game of Thrones TW would have looked like?

>Medieval 3: GoT Edition
>revamped diplomacy system
>bigger focus on characters/family trees
>feudal recruitment system
>light fantasy elements
>LL like system with the likes of "The Blackfish" if commanding the Tully or Eddard if Starks
>full Westeros and Essos map
>variable objectives, can take Iron Throne or don't
>Daenarys + Dothraki end game final destination
>White Walkers end game
>different campaigns for each point in GoT timeline, Robert's Rebellion, Targaryen Invasion, Long Night etc

Might be cool lads. Although I'd expect the visual look of the game to be 100% with the HBO show and not the books, which would be a shame but whatever.
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>>144313582
no.
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>>144313582
TW cannot into diplomacy so it would be shit.
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>>144312980
Hit points. Melee defense only works against melee weapons and makes a very small difference.
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>>144312980

Melee Defense has diminishing returns because most units you'll be facing do not have high melee attack.

Also, Melee Defense doesn't protect you from missiles whereas more health does. Still, it depends on what your vision for the character is. If you want him to go toe-to-toe with several units of Chosen, then get melee defense (and health, too, 2bh).
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>>144313683

>revamped diplomacy system

Nothing stopping them making a new one. But I do agree, CA only care about simple, arcade like mechanics so I doubt it'll be worth anything, I'd imagine Med3 will be as shallow as a puddle.
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>>144313582
Sorry, but terrible idea.
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>>144313582
Shit

this is Total War, not Total Drama
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>>144313330
I can't stand the dwarf campaign because of the grudges.

>Defending my perfectly secure province with all garrisons upgraded and my stack positioned to defend any flank quickly.
>One small as fuck orc army trespasses the frontier just a little and enters raid stance.
>"OH VALAYA WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING KING THAT'S A FUCKING GRUDGE YOU GOTTA SOLVE NOW OR WE'LL FUCK YOUR KINGDOM UP"
>Use said stack to attack.
>They run away and retreat to orc lands, where there's a million stacks running around looking for tender dawi buttholes to plunder, so I can get used to the idea of the grudge sitting there forever now.
>Meanwhile, another orc army arrives on the opposite side.
>"OH VALAYA WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING..."
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>>144313780
There will never be a Medieval 3, thank God. CA isn't doing sequels anymore.

The next game is Total War: Tercio
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>>144313582
GoT is the worst fantasy setting, so no
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>>144313878

I wouldn't mind seeing other historical eras with interesting warfare.
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>>144313582
Dont mind the haters, I think it would be pretty good.
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>>144313780
>I'd imagine Med3
they will never make med3, all the med2 babbies will not buy it anyway and will only shit on it, and the rest dont give a fuck
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>>144313848

Grudges are fun as fuck... in concept. I feel they should have been a little more developed than just standard missions. Some are also hard as nails to complete, like levelling up a hero to lvl 15.
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>>144313848

After I eliminated the orcs and had a chance to play city building simulator, I just swept up the rebel armies with my own and held the fort until I could build Public Order buildings in every province. Fighting the Orcs was far more annoying than the Chaos or Vampires by a mile. Vampires were the most fun though because I had Irondrakes and Flame Cannons by that time and had to actually protect them from bats.
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>>144309774
Why do TWC idiots believe Total War is a war simulator?
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How stable is your game? I'm at 75 hours and really surprised so far, only 3 crashes.

Each of them after selecting an agent though, it is kinda weird.
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>>144314189
I haven't had any crashes, not counting my flailing attempts at modding in new units.
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>>144314020
Fuck off cunt.

It would be bad because game of thrones is about politics, while total *WAR* is about *WAR*.
Anyone who thinks it's a good idea is just plain out wrong.
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>>144313908

Opinions.

It's one of my favourites because of the heavy historical influences.
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>>144312318

Ignore anyone who says chaos, Greatswords and black orcs are the best heavy infantry in the game, followed by longbeards
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>>144310762
>two
which is the second one? because skirmish mode is not a formation
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>>144309774

When modders try to add "more tactical depth" we end up with shit like Darthmod were battles last fucking ages and nothing happens.
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>>144314103
That's more of a luck thing though. If it's one of the heroes that requires a very expensive later building, yeah, but the actual leveling is very fast.
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>>144314248
Its time to change your nappy mr crankypants.
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How do I take good screenshots in this game? I had some good ones of Shogun 2, but the lack of blood and matched combat makes it harder. It's kind of just guys flying around and falling over.
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>>144314285
>followed by longbeards

*Ironbreakers
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>>144314439
>It's kind of just guys flying around and falling over.
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Hey Varg, what'cha doing over there? Are you trying to fuck with my subjugated shit, Varg?
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>>144314248
spoiler alert: there are wars in the asoiaf universe
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>no orc women
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>>144313780
"Arcade-like" is practically a buzzword now.
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>>144314559

Navies when? I can't when to burn down those fuckers coastal settlements.
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>>144314374
Or DEI and their "innovative" supply system that half the time doesn't work at all, and half the time is just annoying as fuck.
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>>144314516

No, longbeards.
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>>144314374
>>144314672
And TWC just fellates these mods like they're the greatest thing ever.
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>>144314420
Is that what you tell everyone who proves you wrong?


>>144314571
Yeah like how many? Two was it? Yeah let's get straight to working on this Game of Thrones """"""TOTAL WAR"""""""
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>>144314753
No, Ironbreakers are better. You're not COST EFFICIENCY MP shitter, are you?
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>>144314636

It's always been a buzzword, there has never been anything even remotely arcade-like in any total war game.
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>>144314672
The supply system worked fine for me, it is annoying to set up though. One thing I like is that you can exhaust a province's supplies, or can just supply troops using a fleet.
AI is naturally incapable of using it though, even though they suffer just as much as the human player. My one complaint with that mod is the large settlement garrisons. AI just sits about and does nothing because of it.
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>>144314908

If I remember correctly Ironbreakers don't have AP.
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>>144314636

It's always been a buzzword, everyone I ask has never been able to define it.

I've always thought of it as a "arcade game" like something you can just pick up and go.
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How do you guys expand in hard campaigns? Do you take one town, wait while you build up the defense, then expand to the next? Or do you blitz through a province as fast as you can before they send an army to contest it, then build defenses later and just retake whatever you lost in the process?
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>>144313409
thanks anon I'm currently just slaving it out
trying to do swaps with the hero units, namely banshee and vampiress is proving difficult
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>>144314779
I tell it to people who throw a tantrum over nothing.
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>>144314636
It IS a buzzword. What does "arcade" even mean when applied to Total War? It's not an arcade game, none of it's mechanics are related whatsoever to arcade games, so why do people use the word "arcade"?
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>>144314940
Rome literally had an "arcade mode"
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>>144314779
>a total war game set in Japan? pfft for the majority of the time Japan wasn't in total war and engaged in diplomacy and politics instead
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>>144315025
They don't need AP with blasting charges. And you don't use your infantry to kill shit anyway, you got ranged units and heroes for that. They are a straight upgrade.
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>>144314908

Yes there is only one of us, we iz legiun out to get you

Longbeards are better because they are not overpriced and suck dick for their price.
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>>144315134
cracked it, now that is INTERESTING
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>>144315243
That just means R1 babbies get BTFO even more
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>we heard you like Norsca, so have 4 stacks of Norsca marauders attack you at once
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guys halp...

two of my campaigns have been ruined because it keeps crashing on the Bjornlings turn. Anyone know a solution?
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>>144315139
That's what you like think at least. If you get butthurt so easily that you need start damage control like this, it's better to keep those hot steaming opinions all to yourself.

>>144315249
Pretty sure they had more than two wars in Feudal Japan. Also feudal japan wasn't story driven like Game of Thrones is.
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>>144315410
and i forgot to add the picture. how silly of me
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Why does the AI love building skirmish cav so much?

Feels like I never switched from Atilla.
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>>144315647

I've been playing 110 hours without a single crash or game-breaking bug.

I'm sorry, anon, but my playthrough has been 100% flawless.

>>144315602

A lvl2 garrison can handle one of their armies though.
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>>144313582
hell no.

There's not even enough source material in Lord of the Rings to have armies as diverse as you'd find in Warhammer. Game of Thrones even less so.
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>>144307872
Could you mod Grail knight armor onto black nights w lances? Maybe make the fire lances spooky purple?
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>>144315658
>someone suggests a setting you dont like
>its the worst thing ever, they cant make a game about it!

You belong on tumblr with the triggered army.
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>>144315826

So far, it seems to happen when I start up the campaign again after not playing a day or two and it just crashes on the first turn. don't know what to do.
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>unleash magic from a much higher level mage than the units faced
>the spells don't even kill a single tier 1 unit

I swear, Spirit Leech is the only spell in the game that's worth a shit.
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>>144316042
>someone posts terrible idea
>tell them that it's a terrible idea
>LOLOLOL BUTTHURT BABY IT'S YOUR FAULT THE IDEA SUCKS

No, it's you that should go to tumblr and never come back here, my friend.
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Has OUR GUY gotten his prize from CA yet for finding that broken link in the panoramic picture the other day? What was it?
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>>144316318

Stop wasting mana on AoE damage spells and use them on the actually powerful buffs/debuffs.

Also Fate of Bjuna is still deadly.
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>>144316318

Play on Medium or Small.
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>>144316347

SAVAGE
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>>144316347
That hurts to look at.
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Hey remember that easter egg from yesterday?

Me neither, fuck you

t.CA
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>>144316528
>>144316347

>lances that aren't designed to break

MADMEN
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>>144316376
>narrowminded and easily wound up
>thinks he can judge anything

Im not your friend guy
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>manlets
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>>144287228
FUCK GELT AND HIS FUCKING QUESTS

NOT ONLY IS HIS MAGIC SHIT ONE OF HIS WUESTS HAS YOU FIGHT 2 DEMYGRYPHS+2 STACKS (one of which is entirely xbows)

Fuck this shit
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>>144316480

It's just a shame. I had never used magic prior to this, except for Spirit Leech as VC, and this just made me feel like it'd be a complete waste of time.
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>greenskin campaign
>confederate with the Red teeth or whatever is their name
>they had a Waaagh
>Waaagh doesn't disapear with them
>tfw an useless waaagh that can't declare war on anyone is following me, waving the flag of a gone tribe
>mfw my level 18 lord can't have a waaagh because of those cunts

JUST FUCK OFF ALREADY
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>>144316880
>this guy proved me wrong in something
>he must be narrowminded and easily wound up!

The irony is too fucking unreal
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>>144315683
That don't look right at all.
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>>144289539
You can change battle difficulty?
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>>144317212
>not immediately attacking gits who aren't in your tribe
m8...
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>>144316039
anon I've actually already completed the knights

>>144317308
yeah it seems weird, I was trying to make the damsels into banshees but it fell through so i threw the armour at vampiresses and it works. looks weird though.
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okay markus these are orcs, you are the orc-bane, you might have been completely useless against the humans but you're right in your element here buddy
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>Varg is three times the threat Chaos is

who the fuck thought this is a good idea
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>>144317293
>i dont like other things

This is your "proof" kek
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>>144317693
>still no mod that make all the little tribe of Norsca alive at turn 1

I just hate how Surtha Ek and his silver doomstacks are more powerfull than fucking Archaon
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The more i read about the skaven the more i realise theyre the true mary sues of the setting

Chaos? Please theyre not the ones secretly responsible forcall the infighting between the good races
Theyre not the ones who could totally take down the every other army in a straight fight if only they united.

And so on
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>>144317693
>>144317810

Norscan units are trash, not sure what you guys are complaining about
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>>144317967
What did you expect from the only OC of GW?
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>>144317293

Nigga, you ARE narrowminded. If some random faggot in the world you're never going to meet or will ever see again likes GoT, then who the fuck cares?

Jesus fuck.
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>dorfs have always been my favourite fantasy race
>warhammer dorfs especially kick ass
>they have the most boring army in total war

damn.
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>>144317967
>Theyre not the ones who could totally take down the every other army in a straight fight if only they united.

They say the same shit about greenskins
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>>144317729
You must be really retarded to comprehend it that way. Then again, judging by your other posts, you to do something completely retarded is hardly surprising in any way.
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>>144318085
>manlet lover
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I can never tell if it's worth embedding a hero in an army or not. Dwarven Engineers are nice and maybe the spellcaster heroes if the Lord isn't a spellcaster. But things like Block Army and Damage Walls seem way more useful compared to many of the embed abilities.
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>>144317967
i dont think you know what mary sue means
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>>144318101
Yeah. Skaven that AND are sneaky, smart, have the best tech, are the best manipulators, are the best at tunnels, have their own magic, demons, and ninjas.
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>>144315647
Dwarves right? Alot of people having been having that problem.
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>>144318269
What does damage walls even do? Does it leave a hole for you to walk through? I always bring heroes into battle because it is more fun. I could tell my guy to assault garrison and kill 80 men after a dice roll, but I'd rather watch him climb the walls with the men and do other cool shit.
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Won VH as all the races except orks. Any tips ?
Gobos archers or ork archers ? Are night gobelins worth it ?
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>>144315647
Works for me sorry
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>>144317967
they fail at everything they do, often with hilarious results, they breed like rats, they get high on Warpstone and their contraptions tend to fail horribly, they are not mary sues

and of course, if you ever loved the lore, ignore all fluff tagged "End times: anything", besides that, all armies claim in their fluff to be the best, so no surprise
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>>144318181

Dorfs get boring though, especially since many of their "fun" units are underpowered so they're not worth using.

>>144317967

>skaven
>mary sue

Listen you cunt, every single race in Fantasy and 40k has a I-Win button, and for nine out of ten of them it's "unite all and we'll kill everything".

Every single damn faction.
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>>144318085
I dunno, I kind of like them.
But to be honest, I always like infantry. I don't really like cavalry over much.

Probably because I like to have the lines smash, and then I can zoom in and watch the action. Cavalry tend to not fare well in sustained melee for watching pleasure.
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>>144301662
I gotz many shinies more shinies than all a you 'ere.
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>>144287228
Be nice
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>>144318557
Orc archers can pierce armor better and fight decently in melee but gobbos have more units and shoot a lot more accurately.

I mostly use orc archers.

Night goblins aren't worth it.
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>>144318557

Gobbos are absolute shit, all of them. Only unit worth using is the archer because of poison, and spider riders. Everything else is to be avoided.

>>144318490

>Does it leave a hole for you to walk through?

Basically this, it creates breaches for you to enter so you can go straight inside the keep. In the past games this let you attack without siege weapons but for some reason you need to have a siege weapon when attacking despite the walls being broken.
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>>144292805
THIS ACTION
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>>144318085
>He doesnt think Ironbreakers are cool
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>>144318170
What is there to comprehend?

Your argument is the equivalent of saying you cant eat an apple cause its not an orange.
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>>144318627
It just feels like they are missing a lot of fun units. No magic and no cavalry. What the fuck. I also like having lots of weak units, with dorfs they just hold the line and never budge.
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>>144318760
DOES
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>>144303698
desu cost effectiveness is kind of redundant when you can murder an army 3 times your size by getting 4 steam tanks
also
>fell bats
>greatswords
not that great
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>>144318752
>Gobbos are absolute shit, all of them.
Shit opinion.

Gobbo infantry is the best ranged bait in the game. 160 units, small model and 50%! missile block chance.

Wolf riders are extremely fast and very cheap.

Wolf rider archers shred other missile cav, even ones that are much more expensive.
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>>144318752
Gobbo spearmen are actually strong against missiles
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>>144318752
>but for some reason you need to have a siege weapon when attacking despite the walls being broken.

I hate this. I could easily send men over the walls or even break the gates with franz himself, but the game won't let me fight the battle.
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>>144316318
>medium unit size
>fate of bjuna
>goodbye unit of chosen
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>>144315658
http://iceandfire.wikia.com/wiki/Wars_in_A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire

Warhammer is story driven.
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>>144318872
I like the dwarfs but there are times when I feel they should have at least gotten a chariot or something.
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>>144318361

Dwarves at first, and now my Empire campaign has it too.
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>>144318872
Well that's the Dwarves strength. They have very solid units - but only infantry and artillery. And they're the most expensive units with the smallest unit sizes.
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aw fakin hell mates ees poked me right up the bum
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>>144319131

Or dorfs using mountain goats as cavalry.

I mean, seriously. Would be glorious.
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>>144319041
also varghulf should be counted as siege weapons
although I'm not too keen on being able to bypass the 1 turn wait for a siege, the AI already exploits guerilla razing to the max
>>144319131
I think the engineering units (copters) could use a buff while the morale might need a downgrade
feels like a good compromise
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>>144319041
I sort of understand why they did it, though. Having walls on a town means you have to spend at least one turn in siege. For both you and the enemy. I know it doesn't make any sense but from a gameplay perspective I think it's the right choice.
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>>144319250
I have no idea what this guy's doing

>>144318872
>>144319131
Runesmith is actually stronger than magic
And miners/copters are your cavalry, they both handle cavalry roles quite well (miners for pulling/ambushing and copters for disrupting formations)
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>>144318836
There is to comprehend that GoT doesn't fit in to total war setting and that is not just my "i don't like other things" opinion. Just look at the other replies. We have also been through this many times in other /twg/'s. It seems like you either don't like accept it or just like shitposting way too much.

>>144319123
How many thousands years are between those wars?
Also Warhammer is very little story driven,
especially in comparison to GoT.
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>>144318880
NOT
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>>144319503
SUMMON
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>>144293681

Come play the only-marginally-better shit Return of Reckoning.
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What are some good youtubers to learn how to play better?
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>>144319123
Warhammer is a tabletop setting, everything else comes after that
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I'm not gonna bother with the reply chain

Asoiaf/GoT is a really bad fit for Total War, the entire fucking concept of the series is that court intrigue is much more powerful than war.

The series begins with a warrior king being totally subverted by a faction who were absolutely detested during the war.

Wars in the series only comeabout as a result of intrigue actions and usually represent a last resort, in total war wars are the first resort and diplomacy is just about who fights on what side

Even CK2 doesn't really have enough options to handle the setting well and that's fucking medieval plots the game

It could be done but I just can't see it being remotely representative of the setting.
In Total War the starks could just win that first war and control the whole realm by virtue of continuing to win
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>>144319718
HAVE
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>>144319881
well said
that's why there's the CK2 GoT mod
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>>144319719

How many people even play it? I only have depressing memories about WHO.
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>>144319123
>Warhammer is story driven.
Warhammer's actually the opposite of story driven.

The lore is fundamentally all about the gameplay, the story doesn't lead the players to battle each other, instead it exists to create explanations for why each army might battle another
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Empire Campaigne
>work my way west, take over the moot
>manchild von carlos declares war on me and sacks the moot
>bring my gurls und panzer stack 19 steam tanks and elector counts expecting a brawl
>just unguarded cities

they had their stacks far north taking over kislev.

now they act as a buffer against chaos.
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>>144320018

Storm of Chaos

GW must have been so butthurt over it.
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>>144319430
Thats like saying Warhammer doesnt belong because its designed for Tabletop.

pst. devs can take liberties to adapt the material.
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Wow, Empire seems to vary shitloads in difficulty depending on ai factors

In my first playthrough I only had to deal with Marienburg after uniting my realm

In this one Mburg had a few stacks on that capital and wouldn't sit there and let me siege them to death, then middenland and some breton shits also declared war on me.

Both games were on normal too, really enjoying this second playthrough so much more. Genuinely feels like the whole of the Empire is fighting each other to see who becomes the dominant state
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>>144320117
>a few instances over several decades mean the setting is story driven

All of it is just there for you and your friends' armies to fight each other on the table, however unlikely the match up would be
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>>144320295
In two campaigns I had the rest of empire was my bitch, although my second campaign they were unwilling bitches until chaos was at their door. Didn't have to deal with middenland because two others took it over.
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>>144320130
Tabletop's a game, vidya's also a game

There's fundamentally less translation to be made, the problem with adapting GoT is that you'd have to take so many liberties with it to fudge it into a tw game that by the end it wouldn't really resemble the source much at all

And the whole appeal of a licensed vidya is playing something close to the source

That's why people say it's a bad fit for tw
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>>144320295
Always make sure to wipe out Nordland btw, they will never like you enough to make a defensive alliance, and the alternate quest for Franz is much easier to do.
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>>144320580
That quest chain is stupid. It'd be do-able if they'd get some kind of special relationship buff for it or something, but otherwise good luck overcoming their inherent distaste of you.
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>>144320580
Yeah, I've got a defensive alliance quest now and they'll never accept

I've got a reason too as well because they hold the smaller city in the marienberg province, swooping in like vultures after a rebellion
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>>144319254
I'm pretty sure there are miniatures of dwarfs riding bears.
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>>144319948
MY
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>>144320130
>Thats like saying Warhammer doesnt belong because its designed for Tabletop.
No? I said that this game adaption based on this certain collection of novels wouldn't work. Terrible comparison.

>pst. devs can take liberties to adapt the material.
Yeah, and you can also shove huge rocks up your asshole, but it doesn't mean you should.
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>>144287717
Is that Grimgor and Tchar'zanek?
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>>144320712
Not warhams ones IIRC, I think they're kings of war
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are spiders better than steam tanks?
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>>144287717

Just some random Chaos nerd.
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>>144320673
>>144320697
Lucky me, they got wiped by northlings relatively early.
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>>144320815
>>144320542
Look I know you guys love Warhammer, absolutely adore it, but its not the only setting that can be translated for TW.
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>>144321092
We know. GoT isn't one of those settings however.
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So, out of the Empire wizards, the College of Light is the best one to use, no? Those buffs and debuffs seem the most useful.
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>>144319753
>>144320018
>there is no lore in the Warhammer universe
>>144319430
There was about a dozen wars over two years in Aegon's conquest in which an entire continent was fighting. Same for the War of the Five Kings. There are multiple periods in which there is total war with no need to include intrigue/intricate diplomacy.
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>>144321092
There's tonnes of settings that could do TW well
tonnes of fantasy ones too

Lotr would be fine, Dagger and Coin would be fine, Abercrombie's shite would be fine

But there's loads that wouldn't work i.e. GoT, Book of the New Sun, pretty much anything where the main character is a wizard, Discworld, Lies of Locke Lamora...
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>>144319989

European primetimes are when the game is most active, when they often hit the current server cap of 1400. NA primetime, the counts go back down to maybe 500.
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>>144320295
I ambushed their fullstack after getting Reikland.
They got absolutely smashed.
Somehow lightening strike and ambush reduce the difficulty level quite a bit.
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>>144321406
Hey dipshit the lore is based around the game rather than the game being based around the lore

That's the opposite of story driven

>>144321427
It would not make any sense but a discworld total war would be fascinating to see
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>>144321406
Having lore doesn't mean the game is story driven
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>>144321092
When did I claim otherwise? All I said that GoT isn't one of those that would work as TW game.

Are you trying to hit every logical fallacy now?
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>>144320835


Meant to quote this >>144320954
to you.
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>>144321406
A case can be made for Aegon's conquest, but the valyrians couldn't be playable for obvious reasons.

WotFK is pretty much just 90% levy and 10% knight. It'd be worse than Shogun 2.
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>>144321092
Here's one:
Dune.
>shields make guns useless
>sardaukar/fedaykin/ixian shennanigans
really it would be perfect
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>>144318612
>they fail at everything they do

It's often "Skaven lost but they actually kinda won" a lot of the time. Makes the skavenfags even more annoying.
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>>144321753
>Dune
>mfw I know fuck all about the setting that most inspired one of my favourite scifi universes
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and so it begins. vh vc.
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>>144321427
>>144321691
It would work. You guys are just finding reasons it cant be done cause you got some hateborner for it.

TW didnt have magic before this Warhammer. So the devs coded some magic into the thing.

Whatever needs to be done to get GoT working is not unfeasible. Noone is expecting a linear campaign where all unfolds as it does in the books.
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>>144321930
surprisingly the prequel books written by Herbert Jr are very good
if you like cyberpunk settings it's great
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>>144321753
>Shields make guns useless
>Snipe them with a lasgun
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>>144321958
Capture the rest of hochland first so your territory looks like a dong n ballsack
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>>144321958

Well, that ought to be interesting.
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>>144321958
what turn?
gl with the dwarves, they're real bastards
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>>144322094
Not without changing the essentials of a total war game noticeably.

GoT fits in to grand strategy, not Total War.
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>>144321958
I wish I had this on my VC vh campaign. rI already killed off the empire and it seems like bretonnia and the other 3 human factions want to be my allies. though chaos is still in the game and i have yet to fully take out the north tribes so who knows. I haven't had an Ork problem ever.
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>>144322094
>Whatever needs to be done to get GoT working is not unfeasible

Since it would require a complete overhaul of diplomacy, it really fucking is. GoT is better suited to actual map painting simulators, and not a game series like TW.
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>>144316701
awesome
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>>144322137
yeah I know, but if you suspend disbelief and leave out the suicidal fremen it works
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>>144322252
235
the ai are pretty retarded and raise dead is abusable so i think i'm okay. every single province is heavily guarded too.
>>144322215
ok
>>144322346
this campaign was a diplomatic roller-coaster. dwarves being my best buds, suddenly they hate me. empire hating me then wanting to trade and ally. this is pretty ideal since i had a lot of time to prepare. the only challenge was clearing the varg, the chaos was retarded since i abused ambush.
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>>144322327
>>144322375
So overhaul diplomacy, this is a AAA studio not some rinky dink indie dev.
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>>144322641
Uh no. Diplomacy in TW games has been consistently shit. And it's not the only problem, just one of the biggest. Just check /gsg/ for GoT mods if you absolutely need it. Pretty sure there are some.
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>>144322641
This is Total WAR, not total DIPLOMACY. Warhammer worked because it stayed in the essentials on TW.
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Hyborian Age Total War when
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>>144322912
>>144322912
NEW THREAD
>>144322912
>>144322912
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>>144322849
>>144322881
So go play rts games if you dont like campaigns?

This /gsg/ argument is asinine.
TW is about both, has been from Shogun.
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>>144322562
>this campaign was a diplomatic roller-coaster
wish I could say the same. basically every one hated me from the get go (not helped by the fact that I turned on my ally schwartzhafen). had to build wall along the southern and western boarders cause I always thought the border princes and dwarfs would try to attack with how much they hated me.
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>>144323165
Campaigns are more than just diplomacy. And TW games have always been more about war than diplomacy. You just keep being constantly factually wrong
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>>144320742
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