/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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pls preorder hoi4

>new ck2 DD
Cool stuff, Noe this is more depth instead of just expanding the map OE the timeline

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I want to remove the immigration penalties on absolute monarchies, how do?

>>144252472
Become a democracy

>>144251862
You do know that this stuff is all feasible right? I mean just look at what the Mongol empire, the Romans etc. did

You haven't even played the game yet so you can't criticise, or I guess you're just hopping in the Paradox hate bandwagon

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Do you guys want EvW or a pre-charlemagne game more?

Personally I want to play as the greatest civilization of all time, the roman republic and it's a fucking shame just how many great civilizations and characters we will never play as

Is this the end of Paradox?

https://twitter.com/Steam_Spy/status/738463579112886272

>>144252660
That's not feasible at all

Why are those shitposting kids not permabanned yet?

They literally ruin this general. Might as well actually consider going to /paradoxplaza/ if this shit continues. It's literally impossible to discuss games here as you're constantly getting shitposted at

Mods, please, do your fucking job!

>>144252662
EvW, Roman shit has been done to death

>>144252826
Ban evading is trivial, thats what they do

>>144252528
Elections are far too bothersome, I want to lead a country without worrying about liberals and socialists, all the countries I play I turn into absolute monarchies, even America, but the immigration penalty is becoming as bothersome as voting, I only wish to remove them.

>>144252662
This will never happen because muh Muhammad

>>144253008
Become a constitutional monarchy then, all the benefits and none of the downsides

>>144251965
HPM should seriously consider this in his quest to make steel great again and reduce the iron shortage.
Also, the iron shortage problem is a vanilla thing IIRC, mostly due to those insanely high iron requirements to build/upgrade a factory.

>>144252662
I liked the EvW engine more than the time period
HOI with populations, Civilian buildings and Diplomacy
;_;

>>144253156
Or the result of China industrializing

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>>144252284
If I preorder Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal Edition would you shut the fuck up?

>>144253426
Just the regular, historical western powers industrializing is enough to make iron's demand skyrocket with those building requirements.
Building factories with raw minerals (which is what iron is supposed to represent) makes no sense anyways.

>>144253614
It would be extremely disapointing

>>144253614
Maybe. Buy it then we'll know for sure.

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>>144253775
You're a big viking!

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>You will never recreate roman republic in ck2 since the only republic that is allowed is stupid fucking merchant dictatorship

>inb4 but it's not le historically accurate!1!!

Yeah and so isn't 99% of all the other shit that gets created

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I made these portraits like two years ago-in hindsight they are a bit silly.

Still, pretty cute.

>>144252123
The fuck are you on about? It looks like complete garbage.

>>144254120
WtWSMS

>>144254458
Defeatism is treason

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The North German Federation
The South German Federation
And Germany existing at the same time and its all fault of the brits

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>>144254304
>The Lion King mod for Crusader Kings II

>>144254539
It's treason then, no way I'm playing that shit.

>>144254590
wtf is that

>>144254693
a conversion, some of the colors are fucked up but the AI works so its good for me

>>144254120
Governments that are more then one ruler are very difficult to model properly in CK2.

Conclave, despite being a shitty expansion actually offers the framework that could mimic it the closest with its council system. Would take a good amount of work on the modders front.

>>144254481
I scripted Odoacer's invasion, in the current version due to the way that his invasion works most titles that would make sense to reform a roman republic ( Aka the reskinned merchant republics in Italy ) lose their land after he invades.

A play through might be possible if you adjust Odoacer's CB so that it protects the vassals like it does the king of Dalmatia.

>>144254603
Made me chuckle.

Who's behind the liquor meme? Rob? Turkslayer?

hyped for modern day mod for hoi4

>>144254906
Just imagine

>>144251862
But with different names.

>>144254906
hyped for /gsg/ mod with holocaust focus for Germany

>>144255064
What holocaust?

>>144255064
What would that even do without POP mechanics

>>144255112
alt-history of course

>>144255162
more fuhrer mana
national unity

>>144255358
>cheating

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hoi4 will be best game of century

>>144255693
Based Podcat

>>144255693
What century?

Shouldn't an Absolute/Limited Constitutional Monarchy Netherlands have orange on its flag?

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>>144256063
all of them

Is there even manpower in hoi4? I'm watching quill's thing and there's no indication of it that I can see.

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>>144256393
What is this?

>>144256586
dudestrength

>>144256393
Yes, there is. Some of the numbers up in the screen. But it seems that it's only a problem for minor nations, great powers can pretty much ignore it after selecting conscription laws.

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>>144256631

>>144256586
>>144256631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY

After watching some of quill's shit I think I might actually get it. It looks f*n.

only 3 days 14 hours

>>144256393
Its the only thing thats got better since hoi3, its no longer an arbitrary number that you compare to other countries

Does /gsg/ improve your dancing skills?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8-r2Mlv0po

>>144252662
EvW esque wins by a hair for me. I just want a modern era game with pops so I can see just how many people die in nuclear hellfire. Is that so much to ask?
>>144254481
There's a bug at the moment where the roman republic converts to feudal after a day in game so for now not an option.
>>144254849
Why not just play the 480 start? The republic still exists but you're a vassal under Odoacer (after that shitty bug is fixed anyway)

>>144257153
t. ddrautist

Going to start a CK2: Geheimnisnacht game.
Give me a start and a goal. I can list some details, if it'll help you memes make a decision.

People who watch Arumba are like captured partizans digging their own mass-graves.

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>>144252150

Reminder

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What is this?

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hoi4 leak when

hoi4 torrent when

>>144257428
High King Alrik(I think, Karaz Ankor) - wipe out green skin scum and reconquer the dwarven empire.

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>>144257428
Do it for her.

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HOLY FUCK HOI4 IS FIFTY FIVE GODDAMN BUCKS ON STEAM

BUYING IT RIGHT GODDAMN NOW.

>>144252706
>Paradox goes public
>gets bought out by chinks
>already full lockdown on all info

Wow, here I thought it was gonna be a downward slope over a year or so rather than an almost instant drop off a cliff.

>>144257852
Meme magic worked.

>>144257293
Don't insult Jake. He is best EU4 player ever, and his accent is pretty cute.

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>>144252706
>Hoi4 gets EvW'd

>>144257852
Investors really ruin everything...

>>144257759
That's Everpeak, right?
Ufortunately, dorfs have some of the least work put into them right now, because no one on the code team likes them.

>>144258015
>americans in charge of aphrodisiac accents

>>144258039
We can only hope.

>>144258085
Yep, they're pretty bland though I still found them pretty fun.
How about that norscan colony in lustria? could go chaos if you want but just conquer in general

>>144258332
>>144258039
I am genuinely not looking forward to HoI4 in any way. It looks like cancer. Plus butthurt ledditors would be expedient.

>>144258874
Ah, a constant war against elves, orcs, and the jungle itself.
Might be fun. I'd also be able to praise it as per >>144257783
Hm.

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>>144253156
reight

https://youtu.be/XPxqF7kmx_4

madman

>>144259026
Same. It looks like EU4.

>>144259326
rekt

>>144259326
Appearances can be deceiving.

>>144259326
How is that madman? This is literally universal

>>144259326
es·tranged
adjective
(of a person) no longer close or affectionate to someone; alienated.

Now it may be clear why I am on anti-depressants

>>144259326
This was while chat was telling him he was recruiting too many divisions in parallel and he didn't have enough infantry equipment. He read 'you're training too many' and then started yelling.

>>144259326
Why is Arumba so based?
Literally the best man in existance right now.

>>144259642
>Literally the best man in existance right now.
That's me.

>>144259642
t. domestic violence man

>>144259642
What about Trump, Farage, Putin, Assad and Wilders?

>>144259326
Guess he has to let off steam somehow after having a public meltdown over breaking up with his wife

>>144259696
t. arumba

>>144259757
Nothing compared to arumba

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>>144259757
>wilders

>>144259757
Now this is autism.jpg

>>144259757
Who else belongs on that list?

>>144259959
Shenryyr

>>144259959
Le Pen

>>144259875
Yes anon, because the best thing the alt right can do for popular appeal is to show their power level. That totally won't result in them getting crucified by the (((MSM))).

>>144259959
Kojak

>>144259875
>he hasn't embraced and accepted Judaism yet
This hurts my Jewish ancestors.

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>>144259959
Orban

>>144260075
>man

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>Unironically thinking politicians are "based" just because they don't pander to leftists

Jesus fucking christ, this is a joke right? Or are these American hours filled with tweens?

>>144260358
Low IQ people love populists

>>144260358
What do you suggest? We accept it's ogre and vote for the socialist fucks?

>>144260557
African politicians must have incredible approval ratings.

how many people here are from US?

>>144260771
mean

>>144260557
No wonder Obama got 2 terms then.

>>144260771
They don't usually have real democracies to feel the impact of populism

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>>144260173
>>144260075
Forgot about these two, I like this guy as well. Talks a lot about the retarded bullshit here in Germany.

>>144259959
Mosley was pretty based :^)

>>144260906
I'm from honduras desu

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>>144261151
He could've prevented the war.

>>144260994
He's not a populist by American standards though

>>144260557
Populism serves the people's interests

So is the CK2 in the mega not complete? I'm missing several files when trying to start it

Is playing Serbia in HPM still just Russian AI RNG?

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Watching this guy play hoi4 and he is just the most retarded player ever

>>144261726
download again retard it's just you

>>144260579
>he thinks voting matters

>>144261808
Retards are the main Paradox target market these days

>>144260579
Who exactly is "we"

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So I'm a bit stuck here. I can't advance into Germany any more due to their tanks schrecking me in a 1:1 scenario and most of my troops are tried up in the Lowlands to stop my pooper from being fucked by their advances through there. The UK is also doing fuckall on their little island. Any suggestions? Is it worth falling back to the Maginot Line or should I hold my ground?

>>144261808
>>144261916
he doesn't even research or use the focus tree, and he's a total war player strangely enough

>>144261371
>>144261151
>socialist tard who said he was a nazi for le edgy vote
Yeah. I'm sure a fascist would want to GIVE AWAY Northern Ireland and educate the world's niggers here in Britain.

>>144261541
pffftt HAHAHAHA

>>144261979
Heavy tanks or bust as France.

>>144261808
>>144261916
>>144262001
Streamers are universally stupid

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>>144261959
The massed ranks of the alt-right, who else?

>>144261979
>advancing into Germany when you have the Maginot Line

>>144262159
Anon the point of populism is saying you'll do what the people actually want
The fact that demagogues use populist talking points but don't follow through doesn't mean that populist ideas are bad

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>>144262162
My IC is a bit tied up.
>>144262281
I went to war because of Austria, I was hoping I could form a line around the rivers in Bavaria and southern Baden-Wurtemberg. But I couldn't punch through in time.

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>>144262162
>le ic eating land forts
The age of 1MPH combat is over grandad, what's the point of tanks if not for blitzkrieg?

With Vic 2 dead, will Alex Grandi commit suicide soon?

>>144262426
Imhope those planes will be useful when you have no unoccupied ground to land in.

>>144262281
t. Gamelin

>>144257153
>some guy walks in on him

>>144262569
>Have the Luftwaffe bomb me into oblivion
>Don't have them bomb me into oblivion

I think I know which one I like better. I don't need more troops to defend, I need more to advance.

>>144262426
You need tanks, Heavy Armour will rek Germany. Should have let them take Belgium for no attrition.

>>144262432
Retard detected. If you don't have heavy tanks, Germany will destroy you. IC is fucking irrelevant if you upgrade like a proper non-pleb.

>>144262648
>upgrading IC as a major
And you call ME a retard?

>>144262648
They have northern Belgium, I'm trying to dig in behind the rivers however. Won't they take attrition period in non-cores? Could you elaborate?

>>144262648
He's talking about upgrading armor, not making industry.

>>144262767
>upgrading IC
Literally(Literally) no one said that.

>>144262397
No, the point of populism is getting power by manipulating people
This usually includes telling what they want to hear and manipulating emotions
One common discurse is the "us vs them", like Chavez "it's all the americans/right/elites fault" or Trump's "it's the immigrants fault"

The point is always the same: power. Populists don't give a shit about people, only about power

Trump/Farage is the same shit as Chavez

>>144262841
Yes but you'll be taking attrition in Belgium unless they changed that. Just start again and build armour, defend and wait for the opening.

>>144262883
>IC is fucking irrelevant if you upgrade like a proper non-pleb.

>>144263000
>Populists don't give a shit about people, only about power

Then every politician we have is a populist.

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>>144263116
If you upgrade armor you retarded fucking burger flipper.

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>>144263112
I'll try that then.

Also, not sure if you've played HPP. If not disregard, but is it worthwhile going for Inf Support Tanks as any nation?

>>144263350
It is.

>>144263350
Only played unmodded sorry.

>>144263239
No retard, just because a chicken has two legs and humans have two legs it doesn't make them the same
Read the first phrase again instead of trying to cherry pick shit out of its context

>playing hoi3 when hoi4 is almost out

>>144263000
This

We need to elect only jews into office they have the best intentions for the goyim at heart, just look at how well Merkel is running Germany!
#FeelTheBern

>>144263605
>playing literal shit

>>144263670
it looks fun as fuck

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>>144263000
>farage is only in it for power
You don't know what you're talking about, me lad. If farage was only in it for power he'd have stuck with the tories and either be PM or a cabinet minister now, but he decided to go with his believes and keep britain british.

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>>144259064
I might do a campaign as Myrmidens or one of the other Tilean states and recreate the Myrmidian Empire. Don't know if non-Imperial humans are well-fleshed out though beyond a few nation forming decisions.

>>144263575
I did. All politicians are manipulators

>b-bernie's not like the rest of them i swear!

KEK.

>>144263302
>x is irrelevet if u upgrade
>implying it isn't implied that the subject is linked through causation to mean what I inferred
wew

>>144263000
Parties like UKIP (those outside the main 2-3 depending on where you live) get completely shit on by the electoral system here.

If Farage was in it for power he'd have ended up in the Tory party like the other guy said.

>>144264062
No it's pretty obvious.

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>>144263624
>>144263910
As I said, low IQ people
Populism is the main disease of democracy

>>144263851
Yeah, he is. Like all populists.
He was nobody before his populist shit, he would be just another tory if he gave that up.

Populists only want to manipulate people, pretending they want to do something for them, to get power
The result of dumb people being manipulated into voting in populists can be seen in Venezuela or half of the banana republics in latin america

>>144263854
The Tilean and Estalian cultures have unique culture buildings, and Stormfells has about as much work into it as any other religion. There's no unique decisions otherwise, but the Dogs of War exist.

>>144264205
That's a characteristics of the FPTP system which (thank god) is made to stop populists from getting power easily
It still can be circumvented if the populist wave lasts

>>144264225
That's not what you said, though. You specifically said populists are in it for power, whixh he clearly isn't.

>>144264225
>wikipedia
You sure as hell convinced me man!

Your rhetoric and strawman arguements have totally destroyed me both emotionally and physically, brb killing myself!

literally EU
>right wing populism is bad because they don't allow rapefugees

Does HOI4 look any good or does it look dumbed down or lesser than the previous games?

>>144264221
Maybe structure your sentences next time and don't act like a bitch when you get called on it?

>>144264420
That's true you low IQ fascist.

Once we exterminate people like you finally global communism will be made a reality

>>144264420
>Implying populism is a good thing

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>>144264225
>ughh...only enlightened 2nd year college kids like me should be able to vote

>>144264365
He is, that's characteristic of populism
I know you want to think your special snowflake populist is different and shit some of the populists may even tell they don't care about power, only the people or the nation and that's exactly what populism is about

>>144264387
I'm not trying to convince you
Doing that with people who actively support populism or populists is useless until they see how it's harmful to a country firsthand

>>144264521
No it was pretty obvious.

>>144264592
Look, kid, I respect you. But you have to cut this shit. It makes you look pathetic.

>>144264567
Way to prove the "dumb people support" populism claim

>>144264567
>implying anyone should be allowed to vote

>>144264225
The upside and downside to populism is evident in Venezuela but so is the consequences of not sucking the neoliberal cock.

>>144264571
Farage is in it for power? Tell me how leaving qn establishment party, where he easily would have become an MP and possibly even leader of the country to join a literal protest group is populism.

>>144264225
College education is cancer in USA.
You can say that its more brainwashing than educational facility. Plus debt generator.
I would say that people who just go work and no sink into debt are more sensible and more worth listening that guys who go into debt for worthless 'education'.

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>>144264692

>>144264225
What alternative do low paid workers have to vote for?

Are they supposed to keep voting for pro mass migration parties that overwhelmingly fuck them over in terms of wage pressure and pressure on public services?

If mainstream parties / politicians hadn't been so ignorant populism wouldn't even be a thing.

Trump and Farage are good

>>144264956
Truly the greatest known homosexual of our era.

>>144265042
>low paid workers
>in 21st century western countries
Nice meme!
>waaah my measly salary can only afford SOME luxury items what is this bourgeois dictatorship xDxD?

>>144264776
The situation any country in the EU or the US is in is infinitely better than what a populist in power does or what populism does in general to a country
What are the upsides of populism that you see in Venezuela anyway?

>>144264846
He was nobody and virtually unknown before the spokesman for populism in the UK
If you don't see how that's going for the power I can't do anything for you
Shit who am I kidding, I can't do anything for you. You believe your special snowflake populist is different

>>144264879
Yeah, better if we didn't have any engineers or doctors around right

>>144265042
The claimed "lack of alternative" doesn't make populism good or the lesser evil
Populism will always be a thing not because of "mainstream party" ignorance, it will always be a thing because of uneducated mass that can be easily manipulated

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What the FUCK

>liquormemers killed vic 2
>/gsg/ has nothing to talk about besides /pol/-tier discussion
wew
when will vic 2 come back and the redditors be expelled from the thread?

>>144265390
hoi4>Bernie Cuckold Sanders

>>144265337
>before the spokesman for populism in the UK
before he became the spokesman

>Berni cuck redditors are already here
HoI4 is not out yet, go away

>>144265291
>xDxD
t. ms paint autist

>>144265390
>he doesn't remember we used to have geopolitical/historical discussions every thread
You are literally fresh from reddit you fucking memer. It was only about a month ago this was the norm. Take your fucking shit back to /r/paradoxplaza where is belongs.

>>144265390
We will have a few weeks of talking about how shit hoi4 is soon

>>144265562
that used to be memeage, not actual discourse replacing what the thread is actually made for you fucking reddit migrant
take your enlightened discussion back to /r/politics or something

>>144265518
I heard the radical yugos are planning to mass post gore and Cþ to scare them off on launch day.

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>>144265617

>>144265709
>hurr durr i was just pretending i didn't know this used to happen
You fucking lying cunt. You know literally nothing about this placenow, get back.

>>144265709
4chan btfo xDxDxD

>>144265717
You're thinking of the Kasskloff/Turkslayer/Bobocrunch led gruppe, lad. RadYugo has no balls and spams stale /r/paradoxextra tier memes. These lads are hardcore shitposters, with literally hundreds of permabans under their sleeves.

>You can join Axis as France in HoI4

Pretty cool

>>144265940
>the steamgroup planning to save /gsg/
Why would they do that?

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>>144263624

I agree friend! That's why I'm on the #TrumpTrain.

>>144265997
>hey hidler i know you've built an entire regime on hating the treaty of versailles but how about an alliance :DDD

first time playing ck2, what are "trade routes" ? How can I make them?

>>144266092
>I don't want a good goy for president so im voting for Bernie Sanders.

>>144266219

>I'd rather have my video game be a book instead of a video game

Fuck off

>>144265997
I assume you'd be required to fork over Alsace/Lorraine? Regardless that's beta as fuck on Frances part

>>144257172
>I just want a modern era game with pops so I can see just how many people die in nuclear hellfire
Try Shadow President.

>>144266219
paradox is so fucking retarded

>>144266380
>i'd rather my historical game have no history at all!

>>144266063
Flooding away hoi4 discussion with shitposts would seal the fate of this general. It's the only thing that could breathe fresh air into this thread. Without it, we'll be stuck with 8th grade debate team-tier political "discussion" and liquor memes. Such a thread is very vulnerable to steamgroup hegemony. A healthy thread, on the other hand, is made up of thoughtful discussion of the plethora of new features, mechanics and mods that hoi4 brings.

Remember, steamgruppe shitposters are behind the hoi4 hate meme in their attempt to subjugate you and the thread. Don't fall for it. Report and ignore.

>>144266250

You can't. You can sit on existing ones.

>>144266456
>French fascists
>Fascists
>giving land you fought so much for foreigners

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>tfw you realize some sad posters will still be posting Vicky2 while everyone else is playing based HoI4

>>144266063
They never wanted to destroy /gsg/ in the first place. The only reason they raid because of the reaction they get. They just enjoy the autistic rages and all the conspiracy theories. They are just trolls. The second generation of shitposters who grew up experiencing the raids and are in Radical Yugo are the ones who usually bait everyone, because they believe the steamgruppe and memebloc was this magical secret place behind everything.

>>144266476
The future of /gsg/ is either
>a bunch of angry autists shitting on literally everything
>a bunch of paradrone shills praising everything paradox do

People say it won't happen but go to /v/, go to /tv/, their slogan may as well be "a little bit of Reddit on 4chan". I would prefer this thread be 100% shitposts to /r/paradoxplaza.

>>144266687
t. boboslayer

>>144266584
exactly, you see the problem?
>Joining the Axis, an alliance lead by Germany
>whose major goal regarding France is to retake Alsace/Lorraine
There's no way in hell Hitler would ally with France unless they gave back A/L

>>144266558
Under laws it says I can make 4 trade posts. are those the same thing?

>>144266657
They want to make it their personal playground for their simpsons porn and SJW shitposts. Drowning out the thing that would otherwise keep the thread alive is the only way they can achieve this.

>>144262281
>He thinks the Maginot Line is impenetrable

>>144266584
>>144266456
>>144265997
>>144266797
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Tyrol_Option_Agreement

>>144266958
The thread is better off dead than becoming another paradox echo chamber.

Reminder to not feed (You)s to the steamgruppe.

>>144266958
Honestly, /gsg/ has dissolved so far, would anyone miss it's current incarnation?

>>144267081
South Tyrol isn't Alsace Lorraine if you don't know

>>144267307
>a region of a foreign country germany was allied with with a significant german minority
Try not to be an obtuse little shit, yeah pal?

Is there any way to stop Frankish turning into French, Lombard into Italian and Visigoth into different Spanish cultures?

>>144267081
When I play Germany in hoi4, I will transfer South Tyrol to Austria

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what do

>>144267401
>Implying Italians gave the land back
>implying germans wanted the land back
>implying the land itself was important
>Nazism built on the treaty of versailles
>same thing as a place that was part of austria, neve rpart of germany proper
You are pretending to be retarded, right?

>>144266958
As I said, they do it because of the attention it gets. They don't give a fuck about this place and they don't plan doing anything, unlike the radical shitposters who are trying to bait constantly. All their raids were just 'hurr we are bored, lets fuck with these guys again'

>>144267642
Japan must be united.

>>144267642
shut it down

>>144267081
>Comparing Italian/German relations with French/German relations
Hitler campaigned on the idea of restoring Germany, and unlike South Tyrol which had been a part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire Alsace Lorraine had been a part of the German Empire and the key bone of contention that fueled pretty much all Franco-German conflict for well over a half century. To say nothing of the anger felt at France of Versailles and the Ruhr Valley occupation.
Thinking that Hitler would be able to magically give up all claims to Alsace/Lorraine and not face absolute outrage is delusional.

>>144267642
annex is always best option

>>144267642
Hell no

>>144263000
>getting power by manipulating people
There's literally not a single politician that doesn't do this. Heck, it's basically their whole job.

>>144266464

>A video game shouldn't play like a video game

fuck off

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>>144267697
>>same thing as a place that was part of austria, neve rpart of germany proper
>austria isn't part of germany

>>144267081
>Most of the people who had emigrated returned to the area in 1945

>>144268015
Who are you quoting?

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>>144267721
>>144267739
>>144267837
>>144267848
On one hand, I love the romanticism behind the Samurai protecting Japan's Northern Gate against the Russian barbarian. But I have to comply with /gsg/.

>he wants the game to play out exactly the same each time because he can't handle it being not historical

How boring

>>144268030
When was South Tirol part of Germany?

>>144268182
>liquor distillery
>liquor distillery
>liquor distillery
>liquor distillery
>liquor distillery
At least make your steamgroup posts a little more subtle, lad.

So place your bets, will HoI 4 actually be shit?

I vote it will be praised by newcomers and hated by HoI 3 vets.

>>144256586
That's not manpower, it's just mana :^)

>>144268336
Based on the dev diaries and gameplay videos, it looks shit to me. And this is from someone who can barely play HoI3.

>>144268328
>doesn't realize building liquor factories is best factory

>>144268487
>
electric gear is better tobh

>>144268256
>not understansing nationalism
By this logic the Basques should stop whining. When was the basque county independent?

>>144268336
looks gr8

>>144268182
>Russian
>Barbarian

Top kek, Russians have contributed ten times as much as the Japanese have to this world

>>144268625
>trying to change the subject out of your shit invalid comparison to "pure" nationalism
wew

So when was South Tirol part of Germany?

>>144268975
>nazi germany wasn't nationalist
Lad this memery is off the fucking charts. This is up there with nazi inspired pagans itself.

>>144268841
blayd sukaaaaa nahui))))
it's roleplaying artyom

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>>144268841
>"Do you want to RP?"

>>144268568
>>144268487
>>144268328
I build Liquormeme factories because they are stable income. Not necessarily the best factories, but they're always green.

>>144269061
Who are you quoting?

>>144269257
No one, I'm paraphrasing.
>>trying to change the subject out of your shit invalid comparison to "pure" nationalism

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>>144269061
Daily reminder that Nazis inspired pagans

>>144267943
If you can't see the difference between a party program that says "let's reform the NHS and try to stimulate economic growth and create new jobs" to "we will build a wall and make mexico pay for it" or "let's make america great again" then what's the point?

Not that you will see the point anyway, when confronted with the cold reality that your populist shit is the same shit that devastated venezuela made by retards on the same level as Chavez or any third world shithole pretend democracy the only thing you will regurgitate is either "all politicians are the same", "my special politician is different" or "you are part of/support A (where A is the imaginary enemy populists like to use)"

>>144269375
So you are saying that
>trying to change the subject out of your shit invalid comparison to "pure" nationalism
is the same thing as saying
>nazi germany wasn't nationalist

Guess you have some problems understanding english

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>>144269397
Daily reminder South Tyrol was part of the German confederation from 1815-1866.

>>144268841
Russians are uncivilized barbarians though
Shit the japanese contributed to technology way more than what russians ever did
Russia isn't even a first world country

AHH HOW MANY BINGS AND BONGS I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER

>Willy wagging

Just when I thought I was having a bad day

>>144269527
No, I'm saying you saying German nationalism didn't extend to south tyrol is equal in retardation to saying Nazi Germany wasn't nationalist.

only
3 days
12 hours

>>144269880
So who are you paraphrasing again?

Please present the whole german nationalism in 1939 that extended to south tyrol

>watching quill's meme through
>he's italy
>1937
>has like 400 war ships and submarines
>has about 1000 planes
I feel like this number is super inflated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYcHLKAMncY

>>144270063
It is

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>>144269756
Top fucking kek

>>144270063
Makes for better mp balance, apparently.

starting to regret leaving Byzantium it such a bitch trying to usurp the title one county at a time. I am not getting so lucky with fabricating claims. I wish you could press all de jure claims.

>idiots like quill get preview builds
can someone please just end it?

>>144264387
Didt trump win Massachusetts in a landslide? The state with the highest IQ?

>>144270257
USSR never managed to land a man on the moon tho, We're the only nation that did lol
also about the other things we did do but not first

>>144270314
Why the fuck do they balance around multiplayer?
Literally no one plays multiplayer except for them in their office.

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>>144270257
>muh ussr crap
>I sent a dog to space in a rocket that barely standed together after millions of failed tests and lost lives and our whole country fell apart because of that concentrated effort to do this shit
>achievement
kek

Reminder that when it was new HOI3 was considered casualized for babies because it is and HOI4 even more so

>>144270362
>I wish you could press all de jure claims
This, or even one duchy at a time.

>>144269976
How about the time they annexed it in 1943?

>>144261808
because he's a meme-streamer and not a grand strategy streamer.

>>144270063
Depends on what the smallest scale of ship and plane counted is I expect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regia_Marina#World_War_II
>The Regia Marina had six battleships with which to contend for control of the Mediterranean, the four most modern of which were being re-fit at the time of the outbreak of the war. In addition to the six capital ships, the Italians had 19 cruisers, 59 destroyers, 67 torpedo boats, and 116 submarines. Though the Regia Marina had a number of new cruisers built to be faster ships with good range in their gunnery, they were lightly built and had inadequate defensive armoring. Numerically the Italian fleet was formidable, but there were a large number of older vessels, and the service suffered in general from insufficient time at sea for crew training.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regia_Aeronautica#World_War_II
>When World War II began in 1939, Italy had the smallest air force among the three major Axis powers. With a paper strength of 3,296 machines, only 2,000 were fit for operations, of which just 166 were modern fighters. The Macchi MC.200 and Fiat G.50 were the best available but were still slower than potential Allied fighters. While numerically still a force to be reckoned with, it was hampered by the local aircraft industry which was using obsolete production methods.

So if its all old and useless its fine, but if its new and powerful or even old but still mostly adequate then its inflated.

>>144270732
Are you actually saying that germany annexed the whole of northern italy because of nationalism?

>>144270689
I like how they only start running after it starts falling. Any sensible person would start running upon realising it didn't have the momentum to reach an applicable altitude.

>>144270689
>The US can't even send people to space
>Soyuz is fine
xaxaxaxax

desu I'm looking forward to hoi4 senpaitachi
i want to play as greece and retake constantinople

>>144270987
Who the fuck is talking about the US?

>>144270916
They didn't annex the whole of north italy, they occupied the rest of it but took South Tyrol as their own.

>>144271129
This guy
>>144270516

Why are you upset?

>>144271240
am I?

>>144271240
He isn't me though, so reply to him with your USA crap

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please stop fighting and face a true enemy

If you want an answer just compare this stuff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_inventions_and_discoveries

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_inventions_and_discoveries

>>144271065
>Constantinople is in the Asia Minor region, not the Greece region
Lad...

>>144271491
Its all rightfully greek

>>144270952
they were waiting for the rocket engine to start I think Looks like a Soft Launch system, like e.g. the Javelin (though obviously much larger) or SLBMs

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>>144271479
>List of Russian inventions and discoveries
>Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name.

>>144271570
You mean Greece is rightfully Turkish :^)

>>144270402
Quill is a fine man, you're confusing him with Arumba.

>>144271729
yeah Arumba sucks killing his kids and family and all

>>144271820
Appearances can be so deceiving.

>>144271709
Roaches don't have rights

>Muh constantinople

Please, it's just a fucking city and it's been Turkish for almost 600 years

It's just as sad as when Danes claim they'll reclaim Scania or Portuguese Galicia

Hey guys, I'm playing Hearts of Iron 4 but am having some trouble. I want to change my division so it is better, but I need some sort of influence or experience to do it.
Does anyone know how I change my division composition?

>>144271997
>trying to reason with "people" with the mentality of an edgy teenager

please leak hoi4 ;_;

>>144272205
sent :)

>>144271997
Ottoman Empire must be restored

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>>144271997
DELETE THIS

>>144271997
>it's just a fucking city
This is why we can't have nice things

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>>144271997
http://mirrorspectrum.com/spectrum/putins-last-warning-to-turkey-if-you-do-not-leave-syria-alone-ill-bring-back-christianity-to-istanbul
http://awdnews.com/top-news/putin-if-turkey-s-erdo%C4%9Fan-doesn-t-stop-supporting-terrorists-in-syria,-i-shall-restore-constantinople-istanbul-to-christendom

You can't stop it.

>>144272523
You see I don't care who controls it since it's just a fucking city

>>144272620
>a fucking city
it's THE fucking city

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>>144272523
>awdnews
>literally eating russian rehashed propaganda they didn't even bother to change
>from the same people who got BTFO by the turks and didn't have the balls to retaliate

>>144271997
Yeah, like Jerusalem.

>>144272807
Jerusalem should have stayed with the Ottoman empire

>>144272523
He'll never do that, get real.

>>144273250
Of course they won't, it's just populist propaganda spewed to dumb people like him

>>144273250
>Putin will never annex Crimea
>Putin will never outlaw homosexuality
>Putin will never invade Georgia
>Putin will never embargo the EU
>Putin will never claim half the Arctic circle
>Putin will never bomb the fuck out of ISIS
>Putin will never turn Grozny into rubble

hoi3 veterans I have a question for you.

did you guys ever use the automation for battles? or did you micromanage literally every single unit?

>>144273489
>wanting Russia to get even more grosser
I thought you guys didn't like blobbling

So is the iron shortage caused by the massive amount of iron required to build and upgrade factories?

>>144273636
Micromanaged

>>144273671
grob is good, it's when things go grob in the wrong direction that bothers me.
like germany going grob into russia, when it needs to solidify europe

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Why the FUCK is Charlemagne not villified along with Caesar?

They literally commited some of the most cruel genocides of all time

only
3 days
11 hours

>>144273489
>>Putin will never outlaw homosexuality
he didn't
>>Putin will never embargo the EU
it's mutual
>>Putin will never turn Grozny into rubble

7 Years V4

http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

-Made Poland be able to claim west Prussia instead of starting with core on it
-Remade the decision to move the court of Portugal to Brazil, now you have to be at war with Spain and have Lisbon occupied and not have 80% of your ports blockaded
-Brazil revolution event
-Made Poland a constitutional monarchy with the same reforms as the UK
-Added an Steel mill in Silesia
-Rename Washington to Alexandria
-Increased the based supply limit
-Valdes not being colonized error fixed
-You can claim the Amazonas state as Brazil if you are GP
-Royal Peru revolutions added
-Bolvian and Ecuatorian Uprising
-Punta Arenas decision going always to Chile fixed

>>144273876
Reminder that Paradox removed Manchuria because they're too incompetent to code AI-puppet interactions

Reminder that all head of states of minor countries have the same portraits

Reminder that Paradox giving early access to Youtubers but forbade them to review it (because the game is shit)

>>144273636
Micro

AI was retarded and its no fun watching the AI play the game

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>>144273925
forgot chehen pic

>>144273873
>shedding the blood of the saxon men
>cruel genocide

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>>144274013
Yeah it looks like AI is even shittier than previous Paradox Games

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>>144274107
>not being old enough to remember the news

>>144274320
post wew1 to wew8

>>144238469
they want to prevent german board games from taking over

>>144274435
>being old enough to remember news from an event that happened at the turn of the millenium
>going on /gsg/
embarrassing

>>144274647
You have to be at least 18 years old to post here.

>>144274749
Yeah and if you're over 20 and still on 4chan you must be a huge nerd

>>144274798
t. newfag

in ck2 does having a higher martial skill give you more levies?