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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Previous thread
>>143840427
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Go to hee-hell
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>>144175578
FUCK YOU
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>>144175427
>>144175552
Pretty sure whatever they do, it will be fun to watch.
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>Toki is 14
>Sounds 4 in the Japanese dub
>Will sound 40 in English

You can't win.
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>>144172520
Blasted Tokyo is Africa. Law route creates a paradise for the clean people, you only see the guys who were dangerous for paradise and therefore unfortunately weren't allowed to go there. In Infernal Tokyo and Neutral everyone has a shitty life and can die every moment.

>>144176485
I think her voice fits, wouldn't call that a voice of a 4 year old.
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>>144176485
Maybe Atlus USA will turn over a new leaf and do a proper voice direction or include the original Jap audio
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>>144176881
>living in Africa
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>>144174775
It's funny how she says she's too young for that at the end.
As if the developers wanted to give a message to lolicons about how sexualizing minors is bad after pandering to them by doing exactly that.
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>>144175578
Is that a hell filled with jack demons?
Because I would be fine with that.
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>>144177558

>As if the developers wanted to give a message to lolicons about how sexualizing minors is bad after pandering to them by doing exactly that

Kinda like those ads in Comic LO that tell the readers that they need help or something like that.

That said, I didn't fully pay attention to what was going on since I just wanted to see what everyone was talking about, and because I don't want to spoil myself too much, but her moaning in pleasure doesn't necessarily mean that there was any pandering going on. Not everything sexual in games or entertainment in general is fanservice. Though I haven't played the game yet, so what the fuck do I know?
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That's true but making the red shiki lust wasn't necessary at all (https://hyakumonogatari.com/2015/02/26/goshiki-fudo-the-five-fudo-temples-of-tokyo/), so it strikes me as fanservice for lolicons more than anything.

The ads in Comic LO seem ironic to me and the Don't touch! is just saying you shouldn't go 3DPD.
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>>144178775
Forgot to quote.
>>144177808
>Not everything sexual in games or entertainment in general is fanservice.
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>>144178775

Ha, so those temples are just tourist trap. Interesting read.
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Does anyone know the original source of http://www.1up.com/features/in-character
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>You are the messiah. You are the Shin Megami Tensei IV Final

Really, Atlus?
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>>144169712
>>144169857
It's not about MP, it's about selling them so I can buy the Magatama from collector manikin
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Is Jonathan actually fat?
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>>144181458
Fat
and gay
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>>144180392
Shut the fuck up.
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>>144181573
>Shin Megami Tensei
>no angel in the game, only demons
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>>144180392

To think I was actually going to buy this garbage
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Will we have a rom patched with japanese voices?
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Is there any specific ending I should be aiming for in Record Breaker's Septentrion arc, or does it not matter? Because I kinda wanna do Alcor's route.
Should I just work on getting everyone's FATE ranks to 4?
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>>144177808
Not going to spoil it to you but Toki's case is definitely pandering. In fact it arguably undermines her character if you don't like this kind of pandering.
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Recarm
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>Law end

Wheres the happy ending
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>>144195574
such things dont exist in the SMT universe
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Alright /smtg/
>Favorite demon/demonfu
>Favorite character
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>>144197461
>Demonfu
Parvati and those hip lines
>Character
Jimenez
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>Lucifer's palace

Nice fucking design
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>>144197461
>Demon/Demonfu
Daisoujou, Kikuri-Hime.
>Character
Raidou
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Tips for King Kenji? Ancient Curse is kicking my ass.
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>>144200289
Get Alice.

Though I don't remember he's that difficult. I just did my usual charge + gun and he's dead in no time. Also probably because he has 2 weakness
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>>144197935
Every Lucifer's palace is great
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>>144175481
Cute OP!

But are those monsters even from megaten?
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>>144202354
Yes. Though they're exclusive to a boss fight in Soul Hackers.
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For SMT4:

When should i do the archangels DLC quests? Before i beat the Chariot or after? I want it to time it right for maximum lore
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>>144177375
And that would cost us $39.99 plus Atlus tip, plus JP tip.
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>>144180392
>SMT IV
>true goddess is a loli in the intro, but is fully grown in the ending
I dropped the game at that very instant. Fuck.
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>>144202459
Oh shit you're right, but they need a special choice to trigger them.
And here I thought that if I made a wrong choice Six would die or something.
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>>144181641
>Shin Megami Tensei
>no Tadokoro in the game, only heroines
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is there a list with the best equipments you can get on the tokyo reconstruction sidequest in SMT I?
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POST
FUCKING
PIXIE
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I love these gals.
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>>144202495
The lore is unrelated sorta so you can do it whenever you're strong enough
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>>144204093
If only they were normal demons in future games. That'd be cool
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I miss cofhee posting, so once I'm done thoroughly cleaning my desk and 3DS, it'll have a glorious return.
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>>144197461
>Demon/Demonfu
Jack Frost and Moh Shuvuu
>Character
Raidou
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>>144206323
No
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Why are the demons digital in this series?
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>>144214019
Well, they're 'digital devils' for starters.
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>>144214019

because the internet is hell
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>>144214019
Rather than using ancient rituals and invocations, a computer program is used as a substitute. Thus they're digitally created.
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>>144211648
Why is Setanta best Fairyboy?
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>>144200983
So what if I miss the Poltergheist for the fusion? I can't really go back to pick it up so I'm limited to the demons in this Tokyo.
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DANGER FALLING IN LOVE LIKE THIS
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>Wikipedia mantra in DDS1
For what purpose
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>>144222761
>we want the college student audience
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>>144222761
Was it already Wikipedia in the JP version or was it a localization thing?
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>>144211648
YES
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What stats should I use for the nes games
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>>144226368
VIT and SPD.
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>>144225725
Apparently it's called Tsuuraijin in the JP version.
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>>144226468
VIT and SPD = STR and AGI? Should I bother with any other stats or just put everything into vit and spd
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>>144227337
Max out VIT and SPD and then STR.
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>>144227876
Ok thanks for the help, this is my first SMT game so I'm still confused on what each stats mean

the translation I downloaded had them spelled like this:
STR
WIS
ATT
AGI
LUK
do you know which one is vit and which one is spd?
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Are the guys who did the Innocent Sin PSX translation still around? I'm wondering if there may be a way to access the debug menu, like EP's
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>>144230268
Wait, are you playing SMT I?
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>>144230990
the filename says digital devil story - megami tensei.nes
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>>144232041
Oh my bad. ATT should be VIT I think? But yeah go STR/ATT/AGI.
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>>144232505
ok thank you!
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>>144232041
Maybe play Kyuuyaku instead - check the tips and tricks pastebin in the OP. (That's the remastered SNES version if you were wondering).
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P I X I E
P L E A S E
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>>144237801
wew that was close
goodnight, this thread better be up by the tiem i wake up you fucking faggots
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>>144238002
Pix is a meme demon with a shitty lore.

But I'll give you this much for saving us.
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Thread needs more faeries
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>>144197461
>Demon
Black Frost
>Demonfu
Parvati
>Character
Japanese Doomguy
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>>144245967
>Parvati
Finally someone else knows what's up
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>>144248216
>>144245967
>parvati
>finally someone else
>le basic fap demememon
Literal entry-tier shit meme demon
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>>144248676
How is she a sememeon demon if hardly anyone talks about her on here?
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>Mara-sama
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>>144220254
fuse a poltergeist using the compendium then
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Last thread someone had indicated a belief only 1 route in nocturne could be construed as Law.

I would argue instead that there are 3.
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>>144250773
That would have been me. Shijima seems like the only really law type one, musubi is more neutral and yosuga is chaos. As for the others the one where you reincarnate the world as it was before the conception also seems neutral, and I don't see how you can construe the demon and true demon endings as law.
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I'd kill for another game with P2 visuals
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>Fumi fig preorder
My wallet isn't even ready for this.
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>>144197461
>Favorite Demon
Alice, Kohryu, Byakko, Merkabah, Satan, Masakado, Matador, Asherah
>Favorite Character
Hero, Demi-meme and Furin
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>>144253643
Pictures?
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>>144254520
Also this guy.
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>>144253643
I'm not liking the figure's face
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>>144254832
Looks fine to me. Yasuda's expressions seem like they wouldn't translate very well without looking bad.
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What's with all Ishtarposting lately?
Keep going.
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>>144257473
>Ishtar
>mfw
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>a demon called ISIS

Really?
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>>144258665
This is bait.
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>>144251539
>As for the others the one where you reincarnate the world as it was before the conception also seems neutral
I differ.
YHVH gets mad at Demi for going out of his way to undo his trial and kill all the worthy human candidates who had legitimate Reasons to create a new world, and even Lucifer compares Demi Fiend to himself.

Even if Demi Fiend didn't make it with bad intentions, that sounds quite chaotic to me.
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>>144251539
Although the 3 Reasons have characteristics of the three alignments, I'd say they're all ultimately law. Reason being, the system they're working within, of using a Reason to create a new world, is inherently a system of Law. This is why a lot of angels side with Chiaki, as well as how Hikawa is able to go from being literally a member of the cult of gaea, initiating the end of the world, to being the most characteristically Law - his philosophy ran counter to the current world but in the vortex world the particular philosphy isn't as relevant as what one does with it. Likewise I may be remembering incorrectly but it may be the only ending where Metatron doesn't send you an angry e-mail. The aradia ending might not either.

Reincarnating the world is what I'd consider the Neutral ending. A lot of the stuff with Aradia is vague and I can't say I remember it clearly but there's a strong element of the Power Of Humanity running through it in much the way that those neutral endings tend to.

Which would leave the demon endings as both chaos where creation is rejected. Possibly the True Demon Ending could possibly be seen as a parallel situation to Hikawa, where Hikawa goes from the far chaos end of the spectrum to Law once the situation changes. Lucifer's goal seems to be supplanting the forces of creation. For the purposes of the action as presented in the game though, I'd say he's still the Archetypical Chaos character.

A lot of the game's got some jewish stuff going on, including the names of the candelabras being the same as the leaves on the tree of life. YHVH is basically an emanation of the infinite, which is known in jewish theology as Ein Sof, into the physical world, likely recreated with each world born through a Reason. He does say at the end of 2 that as long as humans continue to desire his existence he will return, and Nocturne establishes that Humans are required to have a Reason.

Sorry for the delayed response, I was eating an avocado.
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>>144258665
>an anon called bait

honto desu ka?
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>>144260115
Utilizing a lawful system to enact your Reason doesn't mean that Reason is automatically law. I don't get that logic.
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>>144261645
not him, but
it's the same reason why the SMTIVA law/chaos ends are bad, you're playing into YHVH's hand
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>>144261645
They may determine the form, function, effectiveness of the forces of Law but the world they create is governed by the "True Enemy" Lucifer is fighting against, like any other.
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>>144262368
Then the idea of law loses all meaning if every existence is ultimately lawful.
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>searched "Mad Gasser" on google
>find out this was a real life super villain
Shiieet
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Convince me not to name my daughter Seraphita
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>>144257473
3, 2, 3, 4
4, 2, 3, and...
[Clacking Intensifies]
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>>144264013
Glad I'm not the only one considering naming my daughter Seraphita
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>>144264013
desu, give your kid a name that means something sensible. so many modern names when translated are just a mess of words that fail to mean anything of any real significance when read together as one phrase.
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>>144262785

The neutral path isn't. Doesn't use a sponsor, doesn't use a Reason, demi-fiend rejects demonism, recreates humanity based on a goddess. A megami if you will. Perhaps a megami tensei. A shin megami tensei.
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>>144264013
Name her Isabeau.
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>>144265361
In the reset you just go back to the normal world, which is still in YHVH's domain. This is why looking at YHVH's presence as proof positive of a lawful world doesn't make sense, because as the arbiter of practically every universe, they'd all be lawful.
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>>144265496
Then everyone will think he's a Ladyhawke fan.
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>>144265339
Better than the Kayleigh shit my girlfriend wants. Seraph as a name is cute in it's own right but yeah, I'm vaguely shitposting, vaguely serious.
>>144265119
Fuck yeah
>>144265496
If I do that she'll become a drama student...
>>144266045
Kek
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>>144265504

Well, part of neutral that makes it neutral would be it isn't rejecting the forces of creation outright.

>This is why looking at YHVH's presence as proof positive of a lawful world doesn't make sense, because as the arbiter of practically every universe, they'd all be lawful.

I don't see why that can't be true. Forces of Law are present every time the end of the world happens.
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>>144263319
Wait. Super villains exist in real life!?

Shit...
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>>144264013
At least read the actual Seraphita book, so you can realize how much your daughter will hate himself once xe grows up.
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>>144268337
>xe
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Dia
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>>144271840
Go back to bed Pixie.
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>>144272643
Diarama
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>>144197461
>Demon
Surt
>Character
Either Naoya or Kaido
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>>144232041
Be careful with the English patch, anon. I did encounter some bugs at event rooms, and dropped the game at Izanami's chamber, where the game froze. I don't know if it has anything to do with me entering a cheat password (I just wanted to take a quick look how different the original was from Kyuuyaku version), or maybe I patched the wrong ROM, but just wanted to let you know.
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Why is Lucifer an alien in IV
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>>144278457
Guest artists
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>>144278457

maybe you're the alien
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>>144197461
>Favorite demon
Wukong or Yoshitsune
>Demonfu
Scathach
>Favorite Character
Jimenez
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>>144197461
>Demon/Demonfu
Black frost
>Character
Naoya
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>2011+5
>Still no affordable easy to get jack frost merchandise
Why does Atlus treat us this way?
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I could stand the guest artists until in smt iv until I saw Masakado.
Am I just used to the old designs are are they really shit.
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>>144280753
Nah they're overdesigned garbage, masakado in particular. I don't know what they were thinking.
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>>144255921
lewd
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>>144281026
Its a really weird combination of being too complicated while being really similar to the rest of the guest designs. I hate them.
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>>144280182
>Tfw had to hand paint a shitty jack frost shirt just to get something resembling merchandise
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>>144278457
I've always just thought of it as Walter's influence
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What game has happy ending?
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Heat is best Digital Devil
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Anyone else love the relic descriptions in smt iv?
>Skateboard
A dangerous stepladder
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>>144284542
They all do if you pick the best route
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>>144276729
>This filter
ayylmao
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>>144284872
>some survived in Law and allowed to be rebuild
>everyone will die eventually in Chaos because fuck human

How is Walter end happy?
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>>144285495
I was a joke, but I don't think either is happy when you think about freedom and everything. Which is why >>144284542 is a good question.
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>>144284542
Naoya and Atsuro.
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Napaea should become a stapple demon of the series.
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>>144288589
Napaea looks like shit.
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>>144195574
Tell me there's some benefit to law in IV.
I didn't do the damn prerequisite quests and after kaiji ended up stuck with jonathan, and now all I see is that chaosfags get fiends and anything but true neutral has to kill mai waifu

Is there hope /smt/?
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>>144282327
Walter is handsome though.
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Wake up.
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>>144261994
I still don't get what they thought when making that game. SMT and a lot of its spinoffs always were about you deciding what is right and what is wrong yourself. They tried to make every ending one you could choose reasonably, if you agreed to that ideology.

In Final they make every ending shit except the neutral endings and even there they heavily favor one over the other despite it having obvious flaws. The Great Will is undoubtedly portrayed as a good guy despite it being suddenly an omnipotent, omniscient being with an agenda of its own (while in the other games it seemed more like a collective unconscioucness thing, Great Will bringing YHVH back as long as humanity wants it and all) which makes it essentially what God means in most religions, so every single argument brought up against YHVH in the final fight holds even more true against the being that created gods and humans (differently) in the first place.

Final seems so ridiculously hypocritical that I really wish they stopped making mainline and put that shit in another spinoff or made 新・真・女神転生

>>144266315
Being YHVH approved doesn't mean that something is automatically Law. The alignments always have an ideology behind them and already II has shown that Law doesn't equal sucking YHVH's dick. So I really don't get why Nocturne reasons, above all Yosuga, should be Law. People should stop forcing Nocturne's reasons in the alignment categories.

Also why the fuck does everyone believe that The Great Will and YHVH are the same entity in Nocturne when in every other game they are not? Metatron and Lucifer don't really seem that good reasons.

>Well, part of neutral that makes it neutral would be it isn't rejecting the forces of creation outright
That's not really true considering that neutral doesn't have problems killing the "forces of creation" in every other game.
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>>144265504
>the arbiter of practically every universe
i wonder what being YHVH is like, being the soul police of everything and all
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>>144265361
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I'm playing nocturne for the first time and everyone made out matador to be this big ridiculously hard boss that it would take hours to prepare for.
I beat him on my first try, literally all it took was a few demons that knew sukukaja, which I already had.
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>game has NG+
>beat the game once
>can't be arse to play other route
>never get to experience what happened in other, possibly better route
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so are the stats a demon gets when they level up in smt iv random?
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>>144300246
Jokes on you, the only other route I didn't get in FINAL is equally stupid.
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>>144295018
>In Final they make every ending shit except the neutral endings

This is what i feared they would do.

They better not continue this bullshit on future games.
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>>144300743
They're demon specific. Some demons have more tendency to lvl dex, some other mag, etc.
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>>144307112
That's because it was supposed to have only Neutral routes. The other endings are bad ends like the White ending.
>inb4 white wasn't a bad ending
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Do you expect Atlus to stay away from Law vs Chaos conflict with usual participants (Lucy, Big Yellow's lackeys, Lilith etc) after what they did in Final? At this point I doubt they will wait 10 years to make SMTV.
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Would you play FINAL if it was what they originally intended? A MANIAX version of IV with improved features like Map Markers and extra bosses such as Adrammelech and YHVH.
And featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series

>>144288508
>>144288589
Napaea is cute!
I blame Kamen Rider for having those weird tube things that make her design off.
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>>144307531
No.
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I fucking did it
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>>144298908
>tfw level 13
>internet tells me I need to be level 20 to fight matador
>no buff skills yet
Where should I grind?
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>>144309996
You don't need to be lvl 20. Get the elephant snake thing (looks line a next with a nose and maybe legs) and get a null force magatama. Also get something with buffs.
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>>144310120
*looks like a nest with a nose
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>>144310120
>>144310239
Nozuchi.
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>>144309996
If you get to level 18, you can also get Ame no Uzume. She has Media and voids Force.
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>>144310495
She also learns Mana Refill. Great healslut.
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>>144309996
Underpass is good at that level. Labyrinth if you're feeling lucky, also remember to buy Hifumi from the junk shop
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Can I jump straight to Record Breaker if I never played any DeSu?
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>>144312156
The mechanics are a slight improvement to DeSu OC, but you should be fine. Overclock > Record Break
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>>144312156
Yes DeSu 1 is garbage
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>>144310752
>tfw I fused my Uzume and Makami for a Horus
I regret everything
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>>144175481
Is the soundtrack coming over?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG22JL4RRTI
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there's a beach scene in DDS2?
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>>144175481
Is Final the Other M of SMT?
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Is there an easy way to get a melee weapon near Shinjuku post-war in SMT I? Chaos Hero is about to leave and I can't get the Guillotine Axe or whatever it's called back from him because I sold all my spare weapons, apart from the Attack Knife but it's unique so I'm autistic enough to want to keep it.
It's also nice to use as a weapon everyone can equip to make transferring equipment smoother.

I did find another sword around here but it's way too strong for me to let Chaos Hero leave with.
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>>144318696
If you farm the Deva mansions you can get a Tsurugi no Ken from the Raksha's, which is tough but it's probably the best weapon until you can get the Loki Dickcutter.
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>>144318527
Liked in the West and not Japan?
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>>144319081
The west liked Other M?
News to me.
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>>144318227
No?
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>>144319081
>Other M
>Liked in the West
what, if anything the west hates it far more because Japan barely even gives a shit about Metroid.
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>>144318227
There's a beach in Junkyard?
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>>144318227
Yes. It's part of Sera's fake memories. Kinda. It's weird shit, it doesn't actually happen, but it happened in the same area that the wrecked ship is at. It's why the characters think it's familiar.
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>>144320087
>>144319217
Oh, everyone I know into the series likes it. My bad.
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>>144318227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMvbj_jUKhI

I can't find the actual scene, but they're at a beach playing volleyball.
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>>144320794
Your friends have bad taste.
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>>144318527
In my opinion, Final is more like the Evangelion 2.2 of graphic novels.
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>>144320794
you should kill your friends
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>>144320794
Wow your friends have legitimately the worst taste I've ever seen.
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Well?
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>>144323912
Of course!
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>>144323912
No, i don't drink alcohol.
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>>144323912

Demifiend ain't old enough to drink.
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>>144323912
We need people to screenshot and post more unique, rare, or unexpected demon conversation questions, like that one.
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>>144320110

2 doesnt take place in the junkyard
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>>144324687
Whatcha photoshopping faggot
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>>144325450
Not my pic. That's from someone else. Saved it a year or two ago here.
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Im doing DeSu's Naoya route, and it seems there's some actually important dialogue choices to do with Naoya and the protagonist being cain and abel?
Is there anything I should really know about that route?
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>>144325763
Keep playing and find out.
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>>144309996
I beat matador at level 16, you really don't need to be that high a level, in this game it's more your demons and your strategy than your level. I've seen a video where someone beats him at level 8.
I would recommend going to ginza, then recruiting both a Lilim and an Angel which are fairly common, Lilim, you should fuse them to make nozuchi, but try to get nozuchi to inherit lilims two most important skills, sukukaja and rakunda. Sukukaja boosting your evasion/hit which is necessary because matador maxes his with his skill, red capote. Then rakunda debuffs his defense, I at that point already had rakunda and sukunda on my protagonist, so two debuffs a turn and two attacks per turn.
>>144309567
Great!
Wait weren't you going for sophia?
Just make sure don't waste your cash whatever you get. I've spent at least 15000 on magatama I've never equipped once.
It cost a lot, it better be worth your time.
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Is devil survivor 2 even worth playing, it looks even stranger than the first, and the story was the only thing that kept me going with first, because I hate SRPGS with a passion. I wouldn't have even played the game if the turn based style battles weren't still there and even then the extra turn system seems random sometimes.
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>>144327873
It's a pretty fun game. All megatens are worth playing.
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>>144328089
Except Devil Survivor.
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>>144328263
*2
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>>144328427
Alright, i only have Overclocked and i can't get into it.

How bad is 2?
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>>144328541
If you hate this kind of gameplay then pass on it, DeSu2 vastly improves on the battle system and map design but the story takes a step back.
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>>144328817
is not like the first game had a good story anyway. people suck DeSu dick way too much because muh moderate alignments.
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>>144329779
>is not like the first game had a good story anyway
It's probably my favorite in any MegaTen. Devil Survivor/Overclocked is my favorite MegaTen in general.
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>Sol Niger
>have to get lucky to not die

>>144327127
>Wait weren't you going for sophia?
yeah already got it, and the other one. kamurogi was the last one in the shop
20 fucking hours of walking around for bead chains/soma
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See it's an SMT game, it even has a Jack Frost reference
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>>144332291
It has a ton of demon references. Even the random enemies are named after demons.
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>>144329779
Of course it is not a masterpiece, let alone the best story in a game. But you have to give credit where it's due. And DeSu has a pretty good story.
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>>144322220
>>144321779
>>144320990
I'm working on it.
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>>144332597

I remember someone mentioned on twitter that Tsubasa quoted something from Megami Tensei novels.
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>>144332014
I'm really sorry you feel that way, anon.
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>>144332909
I do give credit to it's good parts like the shomonkai and the lockdown ordeal but the whole Bel shit and microwave bomb were terrible. It seems people have a rather selective memory of the DeSu plot. I'm not a big fan of the second game either but at least it's plot was coherent and not all over the place like the first game.
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>>144338896
The Bel stuff was nice though
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>>144338896

The bel stuff was pretty good aniki, sounds like you got bad taste.
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>>144338896
>Not liking Beldr
>Not liking Jezebel
>Not liking Belzaboul
>Not liking Belberith
>Not liking Abel The nice thing about the War of Bels is that it let underutilized demons appear as powerful.
I'm sad there's no Bel Marduk.
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>spend around an hour doing the Red temple
>promise myself and YHVH that i'll punch this bitch to death
>get to the bitch
>drn phys
then came the earthquakkes
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>>144343210
JUDGEMENT HAS COME TO YOU
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>Beeing Yuro
>I know Final isn't coming anytime soon
>Suddenly a new 3ds hax game is released for the latest firmware
>Quickly order it for 10€
>I can know preorder Final and play it on release in late september
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>>144344171
>a new 3ds hax game is released for the latest firmware
What game?
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>>144344534
freakyforms deluxe
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>>144233650
>Maybe play Kyuuyaku instead

Play both or be a casual
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>>144344769
And now it's been pulled from the eshop.
That was fast.
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>everyone turning into demons for the sake of Reasons
is it the same for all other SMT games?
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>>144349762
Most, yes.
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>>144309996
>>144324687
>>144324687
Anyone else get the Nekomata dialogue during Full Kagutsuchi?
I passed by without saving because I was caught off gurad.
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>>144351950
?
the one in the club?
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>>144354610
Ishtar's pretty cute.
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Do I sleep a couple of hours or keep playing Nocturne?
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>>144359784
Sleep is for the weak.
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>>144359784
Just sleep forever, son of man
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Calm death
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Endure
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>SMT IV Neutral route
>Finished all the mandatory quests for top hunter
>Still rank 2
>No more quests at the Hunter's associations
Now what the fuck do I do? The only ones I have remaining are the one with Beelzebub and the VR missions.
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>>144369637
[0512] Eggs for One Hundred
[0513] I Want to Make the City Bright
[0515] Deliver the Film
[0521] Samurai and Hunters United
[0522] Hunter Tournament Prelims
[0526] Phantom of Madness
[0531] Shelter Inspection
[0534] Ikebukuro Free District
[0535] Demon Guarding the Shrine
[0546] Hunter Tournament Finals
[0548] The Great Drunkenness
[0550] Serial Kidnapping + Arson
[0552] I Will Give You My Black Card
[0568] Mysterious Story of Tennozu
[0570] Multi-Demon Fusion
[0573] Rebirth of the Lady
[0584] Take A Picture of Ginza for Me
[05A4] Tokyo Cosmos
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>>144369873
>[0584] Take A Picture of Ginza for Me
Fuck I missed that one. Now to kill Merkabah and Lucy.
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will I go to hell if I have lewd thoughts about Asherah?
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>>144375617
Sure.
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>>144375617
Can't blame you
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7SGB-c1fy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzbPNNX9LxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-NbsUNCnck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Di5RLEAuU
Posting the Grooviest of tracks because I can.
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>>144377504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_PfeIkfpaE
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Hoy.
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>>144380153
You're a big hoy.
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Everyone post more demonfus, including but not limited to
>Ishtar
>Asherah
>Parvati
>Laksmi
>Alice
>Moh Shuuvu
>Pixie
>Nemissa
>Pallas Athena
>Scathac
>Anat
>Skogsra
>Cielo
>Argilla
>Merkabah
>Sati
>Innana
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I started Nocturne and fused the story Pixie
I'm 2 hours in now, is it worth restarting the game to preserve her and let her evolve later in the game?
I read something about a high level super Pixie
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>>144385806
No, just keep the demon you turned the pixie into. And any demons you turn that demon too. So long as they contain the original pixie as part of their linage it'll be good
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>>144385806
Don't worry, you can fuse her. Keep track of what demon she fuses into and make sure you keep it, it's usually the very first demon in your demon slots.
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>>144385806
You just need to keep whatever she's been fused into. Getting the super pixie only requires her "descendant", although I think you'll lose it if you sacrifice it, so don't do that. You'll know which one you need because it'll always be at the top of your demon list.
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>>144354971
Ah I went to sleep, so sory for the late response

No, When I tried to recruit a Nekomata during a Full Kagutsuchi I got some unique dialogue. I kind of expected her to brush me off to keep fighting like most of the other demons tend to, but she sounded like she was in heat, said something about becoming my slave, and joined the party WITHOUT my consent.

I was so surprised by what happened that I didn't take a second to just take a screenshot.
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>>144388910
And from this post, a thousand and one doujins and fanfictions were spawned.
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>>144384559
That's a boy?
It's a boy, right?
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>>144377504
Nice to see some good music taste around here for once.
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Playing DeSu for the first time, just Destroyed the first form of babel, because there are so many endgame demons with megido and holy dance. but what am I supposed to do for her second form with the boss rush, I don't have anywhere near enough sp for that! I used it all up with almighty skills and healing my party with affection and prayer. Also Fuck atlus for making me use that shitty item to take on beldr again. [\spoiler]
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rate my alice, I feel like her high Magic is wasted.
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>>144391790
Get Tyrants. Just try to conserve as much MP as you can.
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I'm slowly grinding my way through Japanese vocab with Anki, started about a week ago. By what point will I have the bare minimum understanding to be able to tell what's going on in I, II, and If..., since I want to play the improved PS1 versions. Months from now? A year or more?
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>>144393017
Depends on how fast you go. I can see getting primitive understanding before the end of the year if you go pretty quickly.
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>>144393667
Right now I've just got it on the default 20 new cards per day - should I turn it up to more? I've also made a deck where I'm just adding things that I find or that I think would be helpful, inluding some megaten related stuff. I'm probably going to go through the gamefaqs translation guides and take all the stuff like demon race names and add it to that deck.
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>>144385806
>not ubering your pixie
>not evolving your pixie
Absolutely disgusting
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>>144343994
TOOT TOOT
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>>144384559
.pu ekaW
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>>144397137
Whoops, didn't mean to reply
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>>144307367
It wasn't. I'm not at all talking about the execution because you have to admit that the ending execution in the whole franchise was never really that good.
Read my post:
>They tried to make every ending one you could choose reasonably, if you agreed to that ideology.
You can choose the White and have a satisfying ending.
In Final, however, you can't choose the Law/Chaos endings even if you're a follower of the alignments because those endings are shit ideology-wise. You can't have everlasting peace when you suck the cock of a yellow-head who doesn't mind eternal struggle. You can't have freedom when there's a yellow-head who oversees everything and interferes when his ego is hurt. Everything the reps are saying can't really happen because in the end you're at the whim of YHVH and I'm pretty sure he at least doesn't want the Chaos world where everyone hates him to exist for a long time. Even the reps realize that because they turn against YHVH, they didn't go neutral at all, they just saw that their ideology doesn't work (anymore in the case of Law) with him on the throne.
In the White ending you end the world and everything the reps are talking about happens. There's no suffering and you're free from yellow-head (you're free from everything because you aren't anymore but it works).
That's what I'm talking about.
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>>144343994
>spend 3 turns buffing party, then 2 turns dealing damage and debuffing
>COWER IN FEAR OF DEATH
>lose a demon
>summon one, spend 3 turns buffing
>dies to magic
>summon another one
>COWER IN FEAR OF DEATH
>start running out of demons
>end up punching him to death
i only won becuase he healed my Berith instead of himself but jesus
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>>144402364
and now i got killed
time to do it all over again
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>>144264013
>Not Louisa Ferre
ISHYGDDT
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>>144209520
Cofhee fag here

Life a shit, I haven't been around recently. Sorry /smtg/. Glad to see you're still alive and kicking. Be back soon. Still gotta finish DeSu.

/endblog
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>Start playing DDS
>Get curious about Serph
>Google Serph
>Unknowingly type Seraph
>See picture of Seraph
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>>144407054
Why would you do that? Did you think playing the game would give you no info about Serph?
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>>144407594
I got a text, and while I had my phone up I thought I'd Google him for some cool JPGs.
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>>144408043
Well, its not like the dame is unplayable now. Get on it.
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>>144405246
I've been busy too. I come here a couple of times to post and bump the thread but I'm kinda busy with work shit and my non-SMT backlog. Also fuck DeSu 2. I got bored to tears on day 3 and have almost 0 interest in finishing it.
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>>144376636
>>144399194
>>144401847
>All this Asherah posting
Second best demonfu
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>>144408626
You can do it, just rush through it.
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>>144408520
Yeah, I'm definitely still going to play it/playing it now. I don't know the context, or How they apparently fuse, or some shit so it's fine.
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>>144408825
That's probably what I'm gonna end up doing. Seriously, DeSu 2 gets on my nerves on how easy going the story is. I have more will to pick up DeSu 1 and replay it instead of finishing DeSu 2.
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>>144409119
Atleast the bosses are fun.
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>>144409815
There's that, yeah. I enjoy their abstract designs too, but dunno, kinda hard to keep interested in it for some reason.
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>>144410742
Like you said, the story is anime tier stuff. The tone is somewhat out of place for a survivor thing.
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>>144392782
The skills are pretty good but I agree since she has little chance to use her high MAG. 8/10
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What should I start dumping points into once I max out Bunny's MA? Should I work on VI or AG? He's got 37 MA right now and is powerful enough that he barely even needs one demon, let alone two. I almost forgot how ridiculously broken glass cannon MA builds were in DeSu2.
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>>144414512
Vit until you can repel phys, dump rest into Ag
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>>144414898
Phys Repel is what, 12 VIT? 8 VIT? Might be a while before I can use it. Gotta crack it first, though.
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>>144414965
12 I believe. From there go full Ag
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>>144415249
Good shit.
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>>144409119
>Ronaldo
top kek
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I WILL NOT CRACK
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Good morning faggots.
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>>144419872
Hello. Go play some megaten game.
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>>144419956
But I'm on vacation in the west and looking for obscure shit. I found a sealed copy of Baroque.
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>>144419872
Play a True True Reincarnation of the Goddess game.
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>>144420116
I don't care. Play something.
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>>144419956
that's a cute snaek
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>>144420225
Fine I guess I'll finish DeSuO so I can through the 8th days this time

But I'm on the lookout for megaten games and shit
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>>144420243
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your time is not yet /smtg/
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>>144391790
bum rush over to babel with wilders and avians then swap to tyrants and whatnot
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>last of the fiends
>go open fourth kalpa
>still missing one candelabra
>have to walk back
that faggot hikawa better have the other one or i swear to god
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>>144422885
nice tiddy
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>>144425749
How many ligh balls should I get for the Ikebukuro tunnel?

Unless someone knows a decent demon that knows Lightma.
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>>144428462
Buy the pisaca in the first kalpa of the labyrinth of amala, it knows every utility spell in the game.
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>>144429425
Alright, thanks m8.
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