/domg/ - Dominions General

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Do your turns. I have business to attend to.

>>144019776
That's a whole lot of investment to do very little and die to patrollers.

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Third for ichtyids.

>>144019776
Literally worse than a 'puchi

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AND THEY SAID I COULDN'T FIGHT ERMOR HALF THE WORLD AWAY.

>>144022407
Honestly, 25 sacreds is huge too. It's, like, what 250 gems?

>>144023914
Each wolf is 2 gems worth

>>144024096
Oh, 50 gems. I guess that's bearable, especially with mother oak and shit.

>>144023914
40 gems of wolves, the joke is that I have more indirect mage support via summons.

What's the Ambassador Mage?

Also, it's honestly pretty cool that you have a son of fenrir leading a giant pack of wolves to sneak through enemy territory and devour an army

>>144025050
It was a hero, and they actually missed their target last turn so had to not use super wolf teleport sneak.

>>144022407
To be fair, that is a trash army. Even with incredible research, he's not beating shit with 120 troops, of which only half are mediocre, and nine good mages.

>>144025050
multihero

>>144027751
Ermor's research has pretty much ground to a halt since he got invaded, and he has been overtaken by a few nations, including Nief.

And so the slow descent into annihilation begins.

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>>144022407
>still using rorarus
will he ever learn?

I'd like to buy two Fire Brands, and I'd like to receive them next turn if possible. 10F/10E or 20E each I'm willing to pay.

>>144030321
You're willing to pay double price? You must need those brands really badly.

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>>144030321
>>144030684
emergency thug gear, and against someone who has CR. You can do the math yourselves

>>144030321
I can forge them this turn and send them the next...

>>144030793
>against someone who has CR
Yeah, zombies and skellies. I'd much rather use thugs to take back my provinces than send a few armies to play whack-a-mole.

>>144030802
I may accept that offer, do you mind if I wait 6 hours to see if anyone can get me them sooner?

>>144031247
I don't mind at all. I can make up to 20. When you are ready, come to chat an announce yourself.

Is it just me, or are the Wu Tang horribly underpowered? It's a good while before I can actually war with anyone even with this ridiculous nine province bullshit (which I'm fairly salty about because Empire's one big strength is quick expansion against indies), but still.

>>144030321
Man, looks like someone really does have a bone to pick.

>>144033778
cracker empires need to back off before they get Mike Dropped on

>>144034026
you don't even share an actual border with me yet you talentless hacks

>>144034212
watch ur neck

>>144033778
Wu tang has A6 hero that can cast 4 spells per turn.

6

spells

per

turn

>>144034757
actually it's

4

A6

spells

per

turn

>>144034904
That lad is going to need a lot of reinvig gear even if he's JUST spamming out 4 t-strikes a turn.

That or some bitch boy com slaves

>>144034757
Oh dang, I didn't check out their heroes.

Hopefully Wu Tang got him some luck scales. Or, uh, not hopefully, I guess.

>>144035042
Don't extra paths really help with fatigue? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought each level above the required level for a spell halved the fatigue cost, so with two boosters up to A8, shouldn't he be casting at 1/2^5 the fatigue?

>>144035408
Yes, he's just retarded. It's basically - storm - storm power - wrathful skies - fag warriors in a single turn

>>144035408
Yeah, with two boosters it's not bad, but at that point you're spending 50 air gems on fatigue reduction. That's a full air queen.

T-strike has a fairly high base fatigue cost and stuff like Fog Warriors is even higher, so without boosters he'll get exhausted quickly.

>>144035273
Well, I at least got my hero first turn. And no, that would be telling

>>144035610
>>144035543
To be clear, I'm not saying that he isn't absolutely broken, and that particular spell queue is probably fight-winning, but after he casts that he's finished for the fight.

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He's actually sacred, so it would be cool to see E8-9 on him.

>>144035610 As >>144035543 pointed out, I forgot about storm power, so it's only 20 gems to cast fatigue 2(!) T-strike four times a turn (assuming the hero has a head slot). You can make that fatigue neutral pretty easily.

>>144035913
>precision 15
DEVASTATING

DEEP

STRIKES

>>144035914
Fatigue reduction doesn't work that way. He pays 8 or 9 fatigue per t-strike, which is still amazing, but not fatigue-neutral amazing.

>>144035408
>>144035914
That's wrong. The fatigue is decreased to 1/(extra levels +1). So A8 would be casting thunderstrike for roughly 1/6 fatigue, which is about 7 fatigue per thunderstrike. Add 3 encumbrance and he's taking 10 fatigue per cast, or 40 per turn.

>>144035913
God, looking at the Wu Tang's heroes, they're all amazing. Even Kanye, though only for sticking in a lab and making shit with.

All the others get 1 or 3! bonus spells.

>>144035913
>>144036575
So basically they're complete trash, except for their heroes, which are unreasonably good SCs?

>>144036391
Oops, that was for A9. A8 would be 1/5 fatigue, which is 10 without encumbrance.

>>144036721
Nobody knows. Shaolin Shadowboxers look like good sacreds.

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>>144036941
>>144036575
>>144035913
>>144035273
That's right, gonna show some true might-
Gonna wow these white childs with my styles-
and prepare for more bad raps and more fat gats-
But enough chit chat lets get on with that

>>144037235
DO YOUR TURN THEN SLAG PEOPLE OFF YA TWIT.

>>144036941
under normal circumstances they would be, but everyone and their fucking mother is packing some type of magical weaponry 'round these here parts.

Those Doom rocket launchers look just silly.

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>>144037501
enjoy this incomplete pretender prophet list

>>144037901
I ALREADY READ THAT SHIT, IT PAINS ME TO HAVE TO PROPHETISE A H3 TO GET THE H4 NEEDED TO AWAKEN MYSELF, SO NONE YET HAVE BASKED IN THE GLORY OF MY PRETENDERS NAME.

>>144038087
WAIT I'M RETARDED IT SEEMS TO BE H3.

>>144037860
What nations don't have magic weapon troops of some sort?

>>144038467
The Math nerds only magic weapon troops have MR (hard to resist) negates, so there's that.
Both of the Dorf nations have good magic weapons on their sacreds.
The Empire has Lightsabers on their sacreds.
The Dreki lack magic weapons until their dragons hatch.
MA Azo has magic weapons that horror mark besides.
Doom has Banefire Bolts, Lightning strikes, and Fireballs. All with 1 Res cost, yikes.
Ulmreich lacks magic weapons until summons.

>>144039268
Don't forget:
Azothia can recruit 10 mindblasters per turn in its cap (and definitely will with those 999 starting provinces).
Hitlerreich can make cap-only artillery that just DESTROYS shit on the other side of the map with a single shot.

>>144040102
Also, artillery has a free 1-province fires from afar spell of sorts, but with its base damage.

>>144040221
The Artillery really isn't as impressive as you make it out to be, given it's cost. The V2 Rockets, otoh, look pretty pants shittingly terrifying. Free Flames from the Sky is no fun.

New game idea: cataclysm game BUT one player plays MA Ermor, and everyone tries to kill him.

>>144040557
The best thing to do with the V2 rocket sites is to spend the 50 nature gems to empower them, then get them to cast transformation. Even if they lose all magic paths (oh how we shall miss ye N1), they still have the missiles but can now move.

>>144040810
Only if some1 makes a mod where only Ermor starts with 9 provinces, to make it more like a spontaneous uprising vs an evil empire.

>>144041065
We can just make a mod where Ermor gets 9 big skellington stacks for expansion, or some flying shit to expand quickly that dies after the first battle or something.

>>144041065
Actually, I could mod it so Ermor starts with ALL THE provinces asside from other people's caps and successful turn 1 blind expansions.

>>144041237
>>144041212
FUCKING FUND IT

I'll play rainbow Ermor.

>>144041347
Done, took my pc 15 minutes to process the resulting turn, but it resulted in ever province save the AI Abysia's cap and tthe province they blind expanded to being ERMOR.


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>>144044021
set up game now pls thank

>>144044610
I'm not sure what you're expecting to happen, but unless ermor is REALLY KIND, having every province worth of gold means everyone dies to PD and indie-stacks.

>>144044706
I can roleplay Ermor. Come on, make it happen.

>>144044761
Coolstory, just copy the code into a .dm file and upload it yourself.

>>144044706
With Ermorian dominion, it'll be pretty damn difficult to get siege forces that can fuck over Empires in time with everyone else harassing them. It can work. Let's try it.

Fine, V2.


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>>144045321
nah

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ErmorOP

Test your mettle in this unprecedented co-op experience! Try to defeat the ultimate menace of the world of Dominions while also competing with others for the title of Pantokrator! Play with your friends, or let them be screwed hard by Ermor! Experience the defining post-apocalyptic game experience! Role-play as your favourite MA nation! Prove Pan right or wrong once and for all!

Rules:
Ermor can't capture thrones or capitals, so it's here just for "FUN" no 100 PD near your cap either, scout's honor.
To win you must kill Ermor and capture thrones. When Ermor is dead, the game becomes your usual MP game.
This mod was only tested twice, so expect even more F U N.

F U N

>>144049537
Awake Pretenders AT THE READY!

>>144049537
Mari incoming

>>144049537
Also, increased a number of starting provinces to 5. Take some safe dominion levels, otherwise FUN might happen earlier than you want due to random candles.

>>144050920
Temple checks are not based on province count. Ermor can choose to not spam temples, thereby making dom kill unlikely.

>>144051223
Oh, alright then.

Also, what's the name of the mod that makes arena battles happen once every year? That would add more FUN.

EL GRAN FUEGO is in.

>>144051223
I'm in favor of Ermor's commitment to RP, but why would Ermor ever not build temples? They want to free their brethren from their prisons of flesh; with their god's dominion that wish can be a reality!

>>144051703
I can take dom 5, and it will not cause that much trouble. Some provinces are definitely going to die though.

>>144051856
This reeks of attacking a province with 50 PD, without any serious chaff.

>>144052269
the answer is simpler then that. Think about cross paths

>>144049537
Why would anyone ever want to join this game. The Ermor player can just swat down everyone's armies and everyone else is just going to sit around like helpless babbies

>>144052767
Because I'm not going to do that?

Don't you love adventure?

Don't you love FUN?

>>144052767
Not with the powers of FRIENDSHIP and COOPERATION on our side!

>>144052767
People joined the Erf Snek game, so why would this eve surprise you?

>>144049537
You are very cool for doing this, but I thought we were gonna do cataclysm.

>>144054424
Huh, we can do cataclysm if you want. I just need to mod Ermor into it. Will be even more super broken. I'm also changing #newdom values to something milder, as if it remains as it is, it kills the world in 10 turns.

>>144051856
Someone didn't armor their beautiful queen

>>144055001
Nah I forgot to remove the retreat order in a siege battle.

>>144054598
I think cataclysm would bring out the "throw everything and anything at the undead apocalypse" atmosphere, but if other people want to play normal, MA nations against #OPErmorPlsNerf I'd join that game too.

When I phrase it like that, it makes me think, "Ya, just what I want to do with MA nations, fight against Ermor yet again." So maybe that's the thing: playing versus the best nation in the game in the worst age is what truly makes fighting Ermor suck. How about a modified one age game, with all non-redundant EA and MA nations? Isn't that what heralded the end of the EA anyway, Ermor's destruction? So wouldn't Lanka, EA Xibalba, Helheim and such nations still be around to fight before Ermor unshers in the MA? Imagine a scenario not unlike the very fall of Ermor!

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>>144055636
>>144049537
http://www.strawpoll.me/10366226

Time to decide the very fate of this world.

>>144056074
This is literally the hardest choice of my life. Someone have an opinion so I can bandwagon it.

The other option I outline in >>144055636 is not just one age, it's more like EA+MA and if a nation is in both, only one may be played. So I guess I'll cast my vote for option four.

ded

Still need 6 more players for NoBones

>>144056074
I'd like thematic nations, ie sceleria and marignon.

>>144059408
Why would I join a game without Ermor if I want to fight Ermor?

>>144060291
Because fighting Ermor isn't fun

>>144049537
>install that mod
>make it run on Shiva, Destroyer of Maps map
>watch llamaserver transforming Earth into a black hole

>>144060291
Why would you ever want to fight ermor?

>>144049537
Is this actually coop or is the standard "yes friend we need to deal with ermor send all your armies at him :)"?

>>144020040
I like it

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Play your turns

>>144064750
Make me, slut.

>>144067167
Excuse me but Awoo is a pure maiden and not a slut.

>>144067167
She's a sub

>>144067907
I believe that evidence was posted recently proving that Momiji learned expertise in the sexual arts from a young age.

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I need more of these. Make one for you're favorite nation

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>>144069474

>9000 hours in paint

>>144071646
He said your favorite nation

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>>144071759

EA Machaka is my favorite nation, anon.

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>>144069474

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>>144069474

ded

>>144036084
>*cloud trapezes behind you*
>*thunderstrikes you from a 100 squares away*
Psssh nothing personell kid.

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>>144049537
It's going to be really, really hard for the Ermor player to lose with gem income from visible sites and almost all of the map.

What is your favorite mod nation and why?

>>144081559
I don't know about favourite but the Iram/Juhera nations in the awful nations modpack actually looked rather good. The only thing preventing it from being really cool is the lack of F/A crosspath spells.

>>144049537
So wait, this mod starts with Ermor owning literally everything except the players' starting lands?

So basically, Ermor builds a shitload of temples with his insane gold income and domkills everyone in 10 turns?

>>144081559
Ledan, from Omniomicon.

I mainly like it because the sprites are amazing, but the way it does ranged troops is interesting too. Their only ranged weapons are javelins, but their javelin troops have significant improvements to precision and damage, on top of dealing fatigue damage on hit. It makes them surprisingly lethal, though I'm not sure how it'd hold up in a larger battle.

I'd like to see their troops get a buff, though. Their units all have coldpower and terrible base stats outside the water, leaving them barely acceptable in cold3. It basically feels like you need to spread your dominion to any land province you want to take.

>>144082770
Basically, this is an RP game. Ermor won't win only because he's not playing to win but to present an antagonist for the other players to defeat.

>>144083619
Eh.

Maybe I'll join later as Asphodel or something.

>>144083619
I don't really see the point when Ermor can arbitrarily crush anyone without even trying.

Even if he doesn't play to win and doesn't accidentally win by domkilling everyone, he's the only one who's going to be able to decide who does win.

Where is Ys lads

What have they done with Ys

Ker-Ys with its mournful merrows sequestered beneath the sea

Where is Ys

>>144085964
WHO IS SLADE?

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>>144064750
Don't play your turns

>>144049537
Reminder to join the FUN game.

about fuggin time atlantis

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somebody casted mirror image

>>144091473
Coincidence, collusion, or one guy submitting a new pretender and forgetting to tell the admin to delete the first one?

If one or both of them both stale on turn one it's the latter.

>one casting of Decay in the arena deathmatch takes a unit from 19 to 562 years old
What the flying FUCK, why don't more people use that spell if it's so absurdly effective?

>>144092940
Because it can miss and you'll die. And WInd of Death is widely used.

>>144071646

what in the shit does bane have to do with machaka?

>>144094078
bane
fire

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>>144094167

>mfw

i'm so fucking dense

>>144041065
Setting up scenario maps is pretty easy, yo.

>>144096434
Okay, at some1s behest I'll look into learning how to do so.

>>144049537
Joined as Sceleria

Mistakes were made. At least we're helping to fix it.

>>144096808
http://www.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_mapedit.pdf

All you need to know is the province numbers and set some fixed starts & some owned lands.

>>144096808
If you need any help, just ask, I'd be more than happy to assist.

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>>144091473
there can only be one

>>144097467

For example:

#scenario

#setland 1
#owner 34
#fort
#knownfeature "Graveyard of the Damned"
#commander "Spectator"
#units 27 "Longdead Principe"
#commander "Ermorian Cultist"

#setland 25
#owner 34
#lab
#knownfeature "Graveyard of the Damned"
#commander "Spectator"
#units 27 "Longdead Principe"
#commander "Ermorian Cultist"


#setland 75
#owner 34
#temple
#knownfeature "Graveyard of the Damned"
#commander "Spectator"
#units 27 "Longdead Principe"
#commander "Ermorian Cultist"


Now MA Ermor starts with 3 extra mages, 3 extra priests, 80 troops, extra D sites, and a fort, a lab, and a temple scattered across the map.

What's a better idea for my thematic Mari in the ErmorOP game - keeping my current awake Angelfu with 5f, 4a and some good scales, or imprisoning her for fire weapons and better scales and trying to actually use Paladins like some kind of idiot?

>>144099460
Use paladins.

Bonus points for roleplaying each commander.

by the way since i'm clearly a retard who can't be trusted, does any other awfulgame player want to know the admin password

>>144100836
Got it. Thanks. I deleted my previous post because of sensitive information.

>>144101807
Deleting your post doesn't make it go away, Ratepe.

>>144102016
Uh.. H-hehe. Who is that?

>>144102173
>>144101807
Can't Delete the horror, now your information will be poorer.-Everyone knows your steam so say goodbye to your dreams-

>>144102586
Lukas stop that shit.

>>144102823
no dope pope

>>144102823
I saw it too, so expect some penis enlargement e-mails too.

Lanka you still owe me 5D for our ongoing trade deal.

some of you guys are alright. Don't come to province 5 next turn

>>144109934
WHICH GAME

PANIC
A
N
I
C

>>144110594
All of them.

>>144106537
Not this shit again.

I already paid you, so go fuck yourself.

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The Kitsune is a trickster and often whimsical or even mischievous in nature. In human guise, it might play pranks on unsuspecting travelers, aid lowborn peasants to greatness or plot the rise or downfall of kingdoms. Kitsune are stealthy and in human guise have the abilities of a spy. All Kitsune are powerful mages of Nature, but most have other magic skills as well.

>>144083619
Thats what they said about drama mama

>>144113707
Fuck off.

>>144114786
Buttmad Tanuki detected

>>144115371
At least I have the balls to admit it.

>>144114547
Ermor started out as a regular player in that game and WAS playing to make the skelepocalypse. Ermor in this game starts out ruling the world and is not going to actually kill any players. I still think it's a shitty idea, just because Ermor is going to be able to kill anyone's armies at any point and it'll just come down to who he doesn't feel like squashing long enough.

I am in the chat for whoever needs me, sorry I have not been around and/or have been ignoring people.

>>144115802
Come on, m8, any good DM adjusts challenge rating of his encounters to fit players' level. I'll just make some thematic fights, like barbarian raids, nazguls, or some underused monsters like tarasque, and see how they fair against conventional strategies. I'm not even planning to win (unless people go full retard or go AI en masse).

>>144116212
I don't think that you have bad intentions at all, actually. I just don't think that the players in your game will really have any agency.

Thoughts on MA Oceania?

>>144119830
No UW virgins.

>>144119830
No.

>>144116212
I think a far better way of doing it would be to set up a scenario such that Ermor controls 30% of the map, the other nations cover 50% of the map between them, and the remaining 20% is indie buffer zones. All nations should, assuming sane expansion, wind up bordering Ermor. That way Ermor is a fightable opponent and likely to (eventually) lose but can go all-out instead of trying to cripple themselves just right. .

>>144120442
Even just giving ermor 3 or 4 extra starting forts (with or without temple, lab, 10-20 troops, or a Spectator) will make them a major power from the free infrastructure and the subsequent effect on expansion.

Probably want to include a turn1 event to give those forts full Ermor dominion, too.

>>144120163
What could be done to improve it, then? More magic paths? Make Sirens A1W2 underwater and A2W1 on land? More E on Capricorns? Increasing the frequency of additional randoms from 10% to 50 or 100%?

>>144121706
>>144116212


Scenario map is definitely the way to go, not a weird event mod. You could even supercharge Ermor's expansion with just a couple free armies of 80+ Longdead Principes under some Censors.


Or could you use #req_unique 30 to limit the event to only occur on a thirty random provs instead of the whole map? Or would it automatically hit provs 1-30 in order, which would probably screw one or two players harder than the others?

>>144121778
Giving them an identity besides being bad underwater Pangaea would be preferable. A2W1 Sirens on land would be a start if they had the means to cast Storm for some Thunder Strike action, but I don't know of a thematic way to implement this. Some sort of Siren Queen, maybe?

Letting them catch up a bit on Pangaea's strengths would be a band-aid fix. For starters, they're paying 55g more for a far inferior big mage: 2/3 of their randoms are worthless for fuck's sake, never mind Earth being superior to Water (especially considering Pan has super-buffable Reveler while Oceania doesn't benefit nearly as much from their access to N buffs due to their weaker troops).

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>chilling out minding your own business researching burden of time
>suddenly this holy doomstack of righteous fire slaps your girlfriend's skeletal ass

WHAT DO YOU DO, /DOMG/?

>>144124938
And let me clarify: You could try to buff Oceania by making Capricorns more like Panii or giving them UW Reveler or something and that would accomplish the goal, but besides getting rid of stupidity like worthless randoms on Capricorn (for example, you could just give them the W1 random for total of W3N4), I think that's a bad way to approach balance since Oceania desperately needs a stronger identity of their own rather than being more like Pan. Changes like giving them improved air access on land would be preferable.

>>144124938
I think that increasing their random to 100% while keeping their price the same would make Capricorns great mages. In addition to having up to E3 on land for earthquakes and A1E2 for RoS (with boots in summod), you would also have the occasional A2 capricorn for cloud trapeze thugging or mobile mage support and even N5 capricorns if you ever felt that N4 base just wasn't enough.

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>>144125354
They do seem pretty well-protected from fliers or arrows or other such threats but that kind of mage blobs always make me a bit afraid. What if one of the mages has the bright idea of casting Phoenix Pyre and and a maximum range deviation arrow hits him, for example? I always feel a bit nervous with that kind of positioning.

>>144125354
Round 1 Winds of Deathx3

>DRAGONS GOING FOR A TURN 2 STALE

GOD DAMN IT YOU LIZARD-FUCKING BASTARDS

Anon casts Twiceborn

>>144127789
RESTART THE GAME

>>144099460
Most RP would be going into blood to cleanse the skelemans with Demons.

>>144132694
NO, FUCK THAT

>>144133127
Nah, Mari only turns to blood when they're on the verge of death, instantly researching blood 9 and casting high-level blood spells. They avoid it until they absolutely have to.

>>144133217
NO. FUCK YOU!

>>144125354
I look at that and cry at Dominions' poor representation of the tactical use of cavalry, for a starter.

>>144127789
>>144132694
>>144133396
If the admin is willing to give an extension so I can get my shit together and figure out what the fuck the nation does and how to expand, I'd happily sub. Shitty balance, meme nations, and dragons sounds like a recipe for a grand old time.

No clue how much of an extension I'd need since I have no clue how long is left.

>>144133760
20 MINUTES

RESTARTING IS FINE IF WE GET TO BE ON A LESS SHIT MAP WITH 1 STARTING PROVINCE NOT 9

>>144133948
>20 minutes
I'd need at least a six hour extension in that case.

Though, I'd really suggest a restart since anybody who's staling turn two likely also submitted a cancer pretender.

>>144134161
I submited a cancer pretender and made my turn in time.

If I made a game of thrones map, would I need to make an entirely seperate mod for the white walkers, daenarys and etc? how could I balance it?

>>144134339
If you need to ask such questions, just don't do it.

>>144134161
I have to head out to pick up some kittens, I'll hop on steam and hit up >>144100972 when I get back to see if they want a sub for that staling faggot.

>>144126048
>>144124938
Make them into an A powerhouse coming up from under the waves.


A2w1 Sirens
Capticorns with a2n4. Set up the randoms so they have a reasonable chance at a4.
Haliade get a 100%wn random since Capricorns no longer have big W.
Aphroi Heirophants (and Lord?) get A1
Mermidons & someone with a javelin or harpoon on coasts.
Probably a coastal archer too, to benefit from Wind Guide?


I guess we need to see what UW elves get before we decide for sure.

>>144135535
Javelins, desu. They're spear toters

>>144135535
So they go from being aquatic pan to aquatic man

>>144119830
In the context of summod, or generally?

How do we make Cavalry, especially light cavalry, actually useful?

My suggestion: Make arrows/ a separate type of damage from spears, and give most heavy cav resistance to ranged piercing alone. Instantly, they go from '40-70 gold investment in something that I will almost inevitably kill with archery and evo' to 'actually able to decimate rear flanks reliably with proper planning'.

>>144136879
Good luck scripting this shit.

>>144136879
Cavalry isn't going to be useful until battles are more than 50 feet across.

>>144136701
What does summod do to them?

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This actualy fits with Dominions lore.
Dai oni = niggers.

>>144136879
Okay, as that is nowhere near DIRECTLY possible with modding, let's have a look at what we can do.

We can, by reducing their prot value by 9 (okay some cav don't have 9 prot) and adding it as an arbitarily high parry shield, due to how shield-hits work that should ONLY stop short-bows and slings. However, if they already have a shield it'll mess up slightly,

>>144137892
>Things black folks actually believe
The people considered 'Japanese' are ethnically Han Chinese, with virtually no deviation.

>>144137430
Nothing, but it changes the utility of certain paths, including water.

>>144138209
They are genetically han chinese. Ethnicity means something a little different.

>>144138385
Sorry, you're right.

>>144138228
It changes Sirens from W2A0 to W1 100%AW

>>144138439
So on land they're 50% A2? That's pretty neat.

>>144138585
On land, yeah.

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Hey Helheim? Machaka? can you figure out what the hell you want to do soon? I'm getting tired of setting elves sitting on my cap with broken walls and not invading for 3 turns now

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>>144069474

>>144140961
Thanks, but I need more

>>144074192
>>144074093
These two are good

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>>144143204

>>144136879
I'd like to see them hit a lot harder in melee. If you want to effectively flank someone your flankers need to be able to kill things quickly, before your enemy wins the fight. Right now cavalry can't do that. After their charge is used up, their offense is pretty shit, and they don't take buffs well either.

If you buffed their offense they'd also fill a niche which human nations desperately need filled - powerful melee troops for lategame.

A change I'd like to see but can't mod is additional mobility on the strategic map. If armies with sufficient movement points could attack non-adjacent enemy provinces (like flying, but without being able to move through enemy provinces) the extra strategic movement on cavalry could let them be used in raiding parties.

>>144145042
This doesn't make any goddamn sense.

>>144145731
>big scary jew nation
>actaully one of the lowest tier with only chariots and goat demons going for it
>MAKES NO SENSE!

>>144145290
Their charge is fairly lackluster too. Also, strategic map is a shit, this is well-known.

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>>144069474

>>144146520
>not 6000 skeletons of a micromanager

>>144145825
Your communication skills need work. What that conveyed was "Horror movie jews but really hungry hippos goats jews cold". You'll note the "Good" ones have a theme for each one.

>>144146716
Okay I actually managed to find the font, so hotfix inbound.

>>144146897
my art is just too abstract for you. Please enjoy your simple skeleton nation memes

>>144146056
>Their charge is fairly lackluster too.
I dunno about that, 20+ piercing damage is scary. Usually stuff with lances will mulch the first troops they meet, then the kill rate slows down significantly.

>>144146897
>hungry hippos
That part makes sense, even if the rest doesn't.

Hinnom has pretty big upkeep (and popeating) problems, and Hungry Hungry Hebrews is a pretender name I've seen at least twice.

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>>144146716
Fucked up the quality even more since I didn't bother working off the original file.

>>144134161
geez, cant a guy be stabbed by a methhead in peace anymore?
I believe my pretender is not cancer.
no need to restart, it was just a lapse, I am doing my turns dutifully

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Play your turns

>>144151354
A lapse on turn two means you're worthless and don't deserve to play.

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Hello there! I'm pretty new to the game with 40 hours of play against IA exclusively, and I have lots of troubles understanding texts and advices from the community because of the jargon and abbreviations. So I have a few questions (maybe more later).

- What is the real name of the "domspreader" pretender ability? I found this term on several different websites, but obviously it's not its real name. On which pretender chassis can I find this ability?
- What does "SC" mean?

I want to git gud, please help me!

Thank you already for your answers!

>>144157486
"domspreader" means it increases the kinkiness of units in the same province. Technically it does this somewhat indirectly by only influencing the generation of doms who then go on to capture/recruit their own subs but the overall effect is an overall higher amount of BDSM units available to you.

"SC" stands for Supreme Commander, and generally better and more well-liked strategy game.

>>144157486
Dominion spreader, works like a temple in that it spreads your dominion, same as preaching.

SC stands for Supercombatant or Supercaster. Very powerful single units that can take on armies alone and win, kitted with lots of gems and buffs.


>>144157948
wew

good job being a meme-spouting asshole to people who want to learn the game

>>144157486
>What is the real name of the "domspreader" pretender ability?
It sounds like they're referring to how your pretender passively spreads dominion. Every pretender has that, it's not specific to the chassis.

>- What does "SC" mean?
Heavily kitted out commander, able to take on an enemy army with mage support and win.

>>144157948
Well meme'd my friend!

>>144158039
>>144158172
Thank you very much!

ded

>>144157948
*slow claps*

*steps out of glamour*

Heh... not bad, pretender. Not bad at all. Your dogma, I mean. It's not bad. A good first attempt. It's plenty inspiring can tell it's got some dominion behind it... lots of quotable material...

But proselytizing isn't all nectar and ambrosia, pretender. You're skilled... that much I can tell. But do you have what it takes to be a Pantorkator? To join those holy halls? To call yourself a member of the True Divinity? Religion takes talent, that much is true. But more than that it takes heart. The era-class Gods - I mean the great ones, like Forester Bob and Ermor Left Alone - they're out there day and night, burning the witching incense, working tirelessly to craft that next revelation.

And you know what, Pantorkator? 99 times out of a hundred, that new scripture fails. Someone dismisses it as nonsense or says it's "heretical," or ignores it as they regurgitate the latest mad babblings dreamt up by those sorry excuses for gods over in Tartarus. The Ascension Wars are unforgiving, pretender, and I don't just mean the one you just lost :^). It's a wretched path, and for every work of scripture you pen in your temples, some fiend in the Hells has a effigy of a phallus or some stone carving that an innumerable number of shamans will attach a milion different intreperations to. Rejoice, pretender. Do not despair. You have influence. You have power. You just need to show your purpose.

Once more, upon the battlefield...

I have TWO whole homegrown heroes in the Hall of Fame and another coming up.

Practically won already. Game over, go home.

>>144163621
more like home GROAN, am I right fellas?

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>>144163717

don't die on me, sempai

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Whom should I main?

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Item Units done for C'tis

>>144172228
Monolith a best.

Other pretenders can't even compete.

>>144175157
C'tis whe-

Oh.

Nice.

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>luck 3
>get 2 shit events on turn 4

>>144175157
Slave brawlers look like thorn spears, and simoom infantry are clearly using snake bladder sticks, but I'm not too sure about the other two. What items are they using?

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>>144181039
>Luck 3
>Get free priest on turn 1

Looks like you didn't prepare enough meme magic.

>>144181393
The Sobek looks like he has a Sword of Swiftness or a Heart Finder Sword. No idea about the Blademaster though.

>>144181761
>Sword of Swiftness
Those are more blue than black.

>Heart Finder Sword
That would be my guess from the appearance, but C'tis doesn't have blood magic so it would be odd.

>Search domg in google
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-CeruLNBXs

Is there a way to make nations with sprites from spritegen?
And if yes how do you do it?

>>144185729
http://www.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_modding.pdf

>>144185729
http://www.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_modding.pdf

>>144186345
>http://www.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_modding.pdf

82 pages m8
I don't want to read the fucking silmarillion to mod a game

>>144186449
It's not like the contents page will take you to the relevent sections at all.

>>144186449
>I don't want to learn how to mod a game before modding a game

Kids these days...

>>144186694
>>144186794
Yeah but I only asked if there's a way to make flavor nations made simply with sprite gen, if yes how? If not ok, bye

>>144186895
Of course it's possible, you dunce. What did you think SpriteGen is for? You can find out how by reading the fucking manual.

>>144186895
Well, what do you mean by flavour nations? If you mean taking various existing units, giving them different skins and making a new nation with them, just use the #copystats monster command to lift them then have the spritegen stuff in a nearbyr folder for spr1 and spr2 to link to. But honetly, thirty seconds of going into the manual, going to the unit modding section and reading the first few commands tells you all you want to know.

>>144186449
mod uresellf a brain mb

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>>144186449
>only 82 pages
>neatly indexed so you can easily find what you're looking for
>read the fucking silmarillion

>>144138209
>ethnically
>>144138385
>genetically

They're an amalgam nation with genes ranging from mongolia to brunei, their animist religion is the best tell for this because it borrows elements from everything from around that region. The japs are actually more genetically distant than han chinks compared to more southern asian people.

Virtually no deviation my ass, you're retarded if you think that.

I'll need a 6 hour extension. Turn timer creeping into my 9 hour job

>>144187906
You're literally retarded if you can't tell the difference between correcting somebody's use of "ethnic" vs. "genetic" means cosigning onto their theory of "no deviation". You're also retarded if you think that anon mistakenly believing there is little deviation makes someone retarded. It makes him wrong, but it's not exactly a sufficiently elementary fact that he's an idiot for getting it wrong.

prat.

What does astral corruption actually do? Is it hard to get rid of?

>>144172228
That is not a case where you should use 'whom'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_%28pronoun%29#Usage_of_whom

such a lust for grammar!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM

>>144192438
Did someone play you like a damn nyckelharpa?

>>144183829
>New thread mascot is an athletic chick
I am okay with this

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>>144191462
Casting non-blood rituals or crafting non-blood items causes the mage to be assassinated by a Horror. Battlefield magic is still safe even if you use gems, but it pretty much puts magic rituals on total lockdown (or rather, you can still craft and cast things but expect to lose the mage doing it). As an added bonus, Call (Lesser) Horror spells are buffed.

Since, it's easy to overcast blood rituals with hundreds of slaves, it's not efficient to dispel it either. You pretty much have to kill the caster.

>>144193076
What?

>>144193076
Meant to quote
>>144183828

This is what happens when I am an idiot

>>144193116
Does it stop ritual spells from being cast if the mage is killed? I assume not.

>>144193469
The horror attacks after the ritual is complete.

>>144193469
The cast goes through.

Global enchantments are of course another deal because the caster is quite likely to be killed immediately after getting the cast off.

>>144193469
Nah the ritual gets cast first and then the horrors come, so you can still cast them if you don't mind losing your mage, or if your mage is hardcore enough to fuck up the horrors.

>>144193543
>>144193589
>>144193612
Oh good, it was sounding like it was impossible to get rid of without killing the mage. Now that would be annoying.

>>144191462
Don't do it, rocket.

>>144193828
It pretty much is, unless you happen to have around 1000 pearls on hand.

They will likely recast it next turn anyway.

The days pass and Ys, dormant within the change log, is unable to return to the mortal world.

Hold me /domg/

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>>144196990
Once Illwinter sell dominions to EA or ActiBlizzard we'll get regular updates and nations for $6.99 each

>>144197683
Don't forget that for mere $10 you can gamble on getting an exclusive NationGen nation! Spend $1000 trying to get the supreme nation to roll your friends over with!

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I guess we wont be restarting, keep memeing boys.

>>144198046
WELL, I GOT URIST SO I'M FINE WITH THIS.

Hey, NoBully admin, don't ignore the chinks.
>>144188361

>>144197973
Also a nominal subscription fee to EAServer so that you can play PBEM's

>>144195880
The best part is that wasn't even me.

>>144200165
now worries I found a way

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>tfw everyone is clearly sick of the game already

Guys, sorry about this, but I'm really burnt out on this game. Shit's just way too big and there's so much shit to do that I'm just going through the motions.

I'd set myself AI right now, but I figured that I might be big enough for that to affect the world, so yea. If you find a sub, I can give him a quick debriefing if needed.

>>144204707
Can you also look for a sub? It's easier if several people do.

>>144204860
I won't be able to go on steam for about two days since I'm cramming an end of term paper. If there's no sub by then, I'll look.

>>144204707
>Pan goes AI
>the two most dangerous endgame nations in the game get a shitload of free land

RIP Memegeddon.

>>144204475
Not true! I've been loving this game since turn 6 and it's still a blast.

>>144204475
If your sick of it just attack dead elves already former friendenemy

To my dear trading partner: I forgot which nation you were. Atlantis, right?

>>144205769
No it was me.

Send me my shit you fraud.

>>144205893
Right, what was I buying again? I want to make sure I was sending enough since I'm paying double.

>>144205454
>>144205538

I'm not at all sick of the game, I was just pointing out the growing reluctance of turn-taking.

I've actually been quite pleased with the lack of staling in this game. 10/10 would play with you guys again any time.

>>144205423
Lanka and Niefelheim?

Xibalba's not really adjacent to them, and is feeding on different victims iirc. Eating Pan might get a combo of Niefel+Lanka up to about half a bat though, in terms of endgame threat.

>>144206685
I attribute it all to top notch bullying

>>144181761
>>144182039
Blade of the Damned and Demon Bane

>>144210826
Are those custom items?

Because AFAIK there is no Blade of the Damned, and Demon Bane is two-handed.

>>144211060
Sorry, Knife of the Damned
Sobek Sacred Guard wield halberds with one hand in their sprite, even though they're two handed. They're strong.

>>144211923
Eh.

Either way that's a bit underwhelming.

>>144212312
MA C'tis already got baller mages and Miasma so no need to cry

>>144214092
lol

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ErmorOP

Join game.

>>144217604
I already did, fgt.

Also I realised how bad my pretender build is for a game like this, but I'm too lazy to change it.

>>144217604
Did you make a scenario map, or are you still using your dumbshit all-provinces event?

>>144207009
ARE YOU COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY UNAWARE OF LANKA'S ENDGAME POTENTIAL BEING SKY HIGH OR ARE YOU JUST RETARDED.

>>144220483
The latter.

>>144221312
Fine, I'll fucking do it for you, you lazy piece of shit.

Look for a pastebin to replace the .map file in 20 minutes

>>144221093
Lanka's endgame potential is sky high, but still pathetic in comparison to Xibalba.

Unless their blood mage summons got freespawn sacreds in a recent patch? Or Rakshasa blood summons got buffed to Ozelotl level.

I mean, sure, I'd put Lanka above Niefel (which is why I was confused, Xib/Lanka aren't eating Pan, Lanka/Niefel are eating Pan - that's only 1 of the 2 big endgame threats) but Xibalba is so far ahead of anyone else that it isn't even funny. Dakini are nice, but can't really compete with Ozelotls+Onaqui summons.

>>144221659
Mkay.

>>144221738
Xib doesn't get Tlahuepuchi, but Lanka gets Dakinis.

>>144221852
Xib doesn't need Puchi's to still be better at an endgame memegames than Lanka. Unless Dakini freespawn sacreds now, 1 Onaqui > 2 Dakini in the long run.

>>144221738
What bless does Xibala have? If it's B9N9 or something similar, it's hard for lanka to have cost effective counters for them.

>>144222245
Dakini can fog warriors and living cloud spam

>>144222273
B9 alone is enough to be very painful for just about any nation to deal with. Even if Lanka can keep up Perpetual Storm to cripple bats mobility, they end up with a pile of b9 chaff comparable to what Marverni gets, except theirs is accompanied by hordes of demons

>>144222273
B9F9 from the looks of it.
>>144222351
And some 100 turns into the game, when Xibalba has 10k+ sacreds from freespawn alone, Lanka has what again to match that?
Also, what's with the living cloud meme, those air eles are only size 4. Unless the caster has really high A, personally I'd rather cast Summon Air Ele twice.

>>144222739
Air Eles are really hard to kill and get much stronger in storms. They're excellent tarpits and have high MR on top of that.

>>144223124
The real question is whether you can spam enough air elementals to beat ozelotl output. I doubt that's really possible even in meme games.

>>144223983
They have F9, so the answer is, not even close. +4 Atk and magic weapons means Air Eles are pretty shit in comparison to normal, and will struggle to even tarpit beast bats, much less Ozzies.

>>144224119
>F9
Cast fire fend or warriors of niefel, flame weapons no longer a problem

>>144225370
They still are though, as they turn the base weapon proc magical. And the +4 Atk doesn't magically go away either.

Fire Fend is not going to save Prot 0 Ethereal things from an F9 bless. It just won't be the flaming part killing them.

>>144226327
>They still are though, as they turn the base weapon proc magical. And the +4 Atk doesn't magically go away either.
Wrong, flame weapons are a separate magical damage instance.

It's nice to see so many people so Interested in what I am doing. Well, might as well fill you in. I have finally successfully gotten enough Air gems from Trades and double catalyzing Fire gems to have some A2 mages to finish site-searching my land for the last kind of gem I need to sift through them for. In the meantime I get to watch Lanka eat Pan and Abysia, while Niefelheim successfully sets up a base on the other side of the map to finish eating Ermor with everyone else. At some point in the future, I may be attacked by others in my campaign for President of Oerida, but have no qualms retaliating against the individuals that do so.

Also, I am open to crafting Items of Construction 6 that require 4 or less in any path except Air, in case someone was looking for something. As always, my business is great, just like the people that use it. Remember to Make Oeridia Great Again everyone!

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Heh, Arcoscephale is rushing me with awake F9 dragon and Wind Riders and this happens. Neat!

>>144229090
Oi now, I'm only getting some 1/2 to 3/4 of Pan. The friendly neighborhood Ice Giants are grabbing the rest. I will be getting the Burnmans though, albeit after it's been pretty burned down by them. I've taken better scales on domkill nations.

>>144221771
>>144221659

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3JF0SAScXaBXzBSNWstT2JGelE

Here you go. 250 provs for 15 players. I'd recommend no UW nations, but you might be able to get away with one. Ermor starts with its whole cap circle, 3 free forts, and a bunch of free troops and commanders, including a Dusk Elder & an Archbishop. If that's not enough to be supercharged, then I don't know what is.

>>144234376
I can also add that only the host's .map file needs to be edited to make these non-terrain changes. So if you want to give Ermor even more free stuff or set more fixed starts before the game begins, it's really easy to do.

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AWFUL GAME DEATHMATCH INCOMING
SEND YOUR AWFUL CHAMPIONS

>>144236194
I SHALL SEND MY WORST MAN!

>>144236194
The Empire has no memer to send this turn, as we have not yet started recruiting our worst commanders.

dededed

>>144221738
>Unless their blood mage summons got freespawn sacreds in a recent patch?
>And some 100 turns into the game, when Xibalba has 10k+ sacreds from freespawn alone, Lanka has what again to match that?
They can recruit indie priests and reanimate longdead. By turn 100 they should have way more than 10k longdead to beat the crap out of beast bats with.

>>144241326
Forgot to quote >>144222739 as well.

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motherfucker you were online TWO HOURS AGO ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO TAKE YOUR SECOND FUCKING TURN

>>144234598
>>144234376
Yeah, I feel like Ermor should have more free stuff. If everybody attacks him at the start, like is intended, 3 forts and a bunch of troops won't help against 10-14 other people.

>>144242863
Everyone's supposed to go for Ermor anyways.

"Oh, don't you worry about fighting me. The other 10 players are doing that already. Say, have you eliminated Sceleria yet? He'll be quite strong later."

>>144242594
Is that the noob game? What happened to Agartha?

>>144243116
i dunno he didn't submitted his pretender and didn't answer the host' pms

>>144243365
I was considering joining that game as Agartha, never played a multiplayer game before and they're the only EA nation I think I have a decent grasp on, but someone beat me to the punch.

rip

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>>144243604
F

>>144241326
>>144241476
Sacred F9B9 Flying Demons (even if they are a bit shit) vs longdead. And Armageddon squishes priests while Onaqui deal with it just fine.

I'll put ALL my money on the Beast Bats. And that's before accounting for Ozelotls > Lankan National Units by a huge fucking margin.

In a normal game, I'd be inclined to agree that Dakini > summoned Onaqui, but in giant ass, long ass games, DomSummon is a stupidly broken mechanic. Especially when only one out of Xibalba and Lanka can blood sac.

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I'd like to talk to Ermor, Arcoscephale and Nazca.

Hit me up on Steam http://steamcommunity.com/id/Yaxinskritt/

>>144244375
In a big fight Lanka will just put up Rigor Mortis and all the demons will go to sleep. Longdead may be shit, but it doesn't matter when everything they're fighting is disabled.

I'm not sure how well priests will work in a post-armageddon world, but they cost almost nothing in upkeep and most memegame nations have managed a decent income stream even after multiple armageddons.