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>>143987098
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>>144017475
first for VC a shit
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I'm playing as the Empire with Karl as my legendary but I have no idea who to summon.
What do?
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THE WINDS GROW HOT
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Can I post historical Total War games?
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>>144017626
E L E C T O R C O U N T S
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>>144017682
I kinda want to get atilla now, shame it's not on sale
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What faction have you had the most fun with /twg/?
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>>144017739
memes only.
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>>144017836
Vampire Counts

It's just comfy, and I like Making The Empire Great Again.

Shame Mannfred is such a massive twat.
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>>144017836
Greenskins and Empire. Probably because they seem to be the only two factions that can field "traditional" combined arms armies (melee/ranged/cav/arty all present)
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>>144017836
Generally Empire, Hellfire Rockets are dope. So are tanks. But my favourite unit so far are Ironbreakers. Those satchel charges fuck shit up.
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>>144017836
Vamps have a comfy map and they get fun once you unlock good units

Empire has the hilarious option of skirmish mode mounted ranged units
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STARTING A NEW GOBBOS ONLY CAMPAIGN ON HARD, WISH ME LUCK
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>>144018128
REMOVE
HORSE
ARCHERS
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>>144018136
F
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>>144018136
Yous betta den dem!
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>>144018136
>tfw no Skarsnik LL availble (yet)
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>>144017836

I like them all except Chaos, I think their economy needs to be rebalanced because it doesn't incentivate multiple stacks but one giant elite stack with the upkeep reduction through buildings only for the one army system
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>>144018216
>playing dwarfs
>have to use my one unit of artillery to kill the horse archers and end the battle
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>>144018136
Use a mod that lets you play as one of the actual Goblin factions so you don't have to sit a LL somewhere taking up cash.
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Campaign when?
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>>144018286
>Kemmler doesn't get Krell
>Skarsnik won't get Gobbla
>Thanquol won't get Boneripper
>Tyrion and Teclis do get to turn up together because hurr elves
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>>144018471

next week
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>>144018471
Based england already taking over northern italy
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>>144017836
Chaos. fun roster and great campaign though it needs some adjusting and hopefullythey'll change it with the coming titles.
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>>144018502
Dont remind me...

Could have been quests for a "bodyguard" type unit, like other LLs get mounts etc
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I don't understand how to play the Chaos campaign. Am I only suppose to have only a couple armies? Are they suppose to be week? Am I suppose to unit the north or leave them alone? They shit out armies more than I can kill them
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>>144018573
Don't play with my heart.
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Poor cunts never saw it coming.
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>>144018667
Slann better be god damn amazing, magic is so underwhelming but we're talking about Frogs that can split the earth and shield entire armies.

Also why is there no hero embedding?! I should be able to stick my Empire Captain in my veteran group of Greatswords!
Sure I can just try my best to keep them together but it's a quality of life change I'd enjoy
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>>144018136

>be strong my friend
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>>144018448

I just replaced the LL.
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Question for modders

1) Is the Morion helmet from the alpha still in the files?
2)Could you make an Estalian mod with it?

In return, have a rare pepe
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>>144018471
I've noticed that one of the names on this map is wrong. I'd like to remind you that this agglomeration which was called and which still calls itself the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.
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chaos: fun roster, boring mechanics/campaign
empire: fun roster, fun campaign
vampire: arguably fun roster, semi fun campaign
orc: fun end game roster, insanely fun campaign <<<<<<feels most loreishly accurate
dwarf: boring roster, boring campaign
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>SIGNA FERTE
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I started with a Chaos campaign because I wanted to make a big Tzeentch aligned army of Chosens to spam magic onto my enemies.
Unfortunately it seems that this game has zero customization of that kind or maybe things have changed in the last 12 years that I haven't played tabletop.
Anyway i found this game surprisingly boring. Is it just the Chaos faction or even the rest are shit?
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As I thought, the real problem is their Warboss, he has already 200 kills, my goblins don't have enough attack to go past his armor and melee defense and I'm running out of mana
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>>144019042
Ordained by the pope, successor to Rome and certainly big enough to be an Empire. :^)
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>>144017475
Kinky
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>>144018789
>be archaon
>kill bearsonling, awaken bearsonling, kill bearsonling, vassalize bearsonling
>fight varg, dwarf, skaeling, kislev stacks, don't leave bearsonling alone
>acquire favour of vile masters by destroying stacks and sacking when stacks are down
>acquire horde growth
>destroy kraka drak and create second horde
>send new lord on marauder quest to unite norsca
>continue bashing the everliving shit out of kislev as archaon
>ignore sigvald's existence

If you can do that you should be set for the rest of the campaign, tbqh.
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>>144018667
If there is no lore bodyguard/pairing for that LL would a small group of elite units be used instead?

Also how much tougher health wise would this make the LLs units roughly speaking. In my mind having your pairing of 2 characters wont increase health radically(if at all) but increase to match that of LL without any legendary lore bodyguard available hence meaning the original LL is weaker compared to others without the other 'half' of the unit present
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>>144019175
Play Empire if you want fun.
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>>144017626
Hot Vampire waifus [SPOILER/]SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS[SPOILER] for my penis.
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>tfw no War of the Roses mod
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>two Dwarf armies against two Varg armies in an underground battle
>this should be a fucking turkey shoot
>let's do it manually

>the enemy reinforcement army comes straight into my back, the indicator lying like fuck to me instead of where it showed to be on the other side of the map with the other Varg army
>the AI reinforcements march onto the map right next to my own reinforcements
>Quarrelers, dwarf warriors and marauders fight in a titanic moshpit, chariots and trolls having a field day
>desperately hold onto the incoming army as I try to micro my ranged out fo the moshpit
>it all falls apart as I get literally overrun, thunderers firing volleys in the middle of the multiple melees, chariots running unchecked through my scattered units trying to reinforce the different points, hounds harassing my ranged
>manage to take down both the AI's lords, but I'm playing with a mod that makes combat longer, and it made it kinda gay in that it's virtually impossible to force a rout for anything anymore
>it all came down to two sub-10 man dwarf warrior units and some massively diminished quarreler units without any ammo and two half-dead units of chaos trolls

Holy fuck what a battle
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>>144019223

Nothing built by Germans is ever worthy of being called an empire.
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Are grave guard considered skeletal for the buffs from tech and items?
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>>144019043
Empire campaign is boring as hell, it has one difficulty bump
Dwarf campaign's loads of fun as a desperate struggle
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>>144019514
t. bong
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What should I do with WAAAGHs containing orcs?
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>>144019429
You fucked up the spoilers in three different ways. I'm impressed.
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>>144019451
>bosworth
>grain
wut
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Soonish?
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>>144018502
Thanquol will probably start with a rat ogre and a Boneripper banner

Im hoping for a Krell LL considering he's the last vamp named hero alive in the time of Vlad
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>>144019043
maybe chaos has boring or bad mechanics (good luck trying to reinforce when you're 3 provinces deep in enemy territory) but you can't tell me being able to roam around and destroy/pillage whatever you want isn't fun
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>>144017836
Vampire counts are incredibly fun for me. Once I've turtled for about 40 or 50 turns, I build an elite offensive and defensive army and fuck the empire. I also love to make deals with the dwarfs during my playthrough, as well as sometimes averland, just so I don't get fucked from behind when attacking the empire. Maximum comfy.
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>>144019763
I hope they do a minor faction playable dlc/update soon

Playing as shitty tribes or whatever would be great
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>>144019763
>beastmen in Norsca

I know there's a lot of Beastmen up there but let's be honest : they will be in the Drakwald forest
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>>144018502
>implying Thanquol will be in the game

Damn, if only. The dialogue alone would make up for shitty skaven magic.
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>>144019621
Throw them at the silver road. They shouldn't achieve anything, but it may keep the dorfs off your back, and screw their economy a little while they're besieged.
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>>144019451

Do you think if we got a Game of Thrones or A Song of Ice and Fire game would we have gotten an overhauled diplomacy system?
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>>144019929

So I'm allowed to use them for my Gobbos only campaign? I mean technically they're not my faction
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>>144019928
the 3 LL would probably be him, Ikit and Queek
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>>144019797
auto resolving garrison battles isn't fun to me
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>>144019451
>England

Hon hon
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>>144017584

They can mass armies like no other dude
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>>144017836

Empire, its one of the harder campaigns, it has the most enemy diversity, and you have a roster you can't complain about
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>be empire
>suddenly bastonne declares war on me
>helmgart attacked immediately >it's one guy. Literally one guy.
>have very small already depleted garrison
>go into battle
>arrange spears in a line and hide swords in nearby forest >Mr Jenkins comes running across the field and into my spearmen
>activate trapcard
>he kicks my spearmens asses
>just barely rout him
>all units wavering
>mfw he killed 120 men (over half of my army

Well that was tense
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>>144019621

>gobbos only
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>>144020036
I used them, they're allies.
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>>144019928
Who else? I'd been assuming it would be thanquol and queek. Didn't think any of the great clan lords will be in the game, those roles would be the skaven heroes (along with chieftains).
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>>144019781
Ushoran is alive and had a novel.
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>>144017979

Mannfred is literally one of the best LLs
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>>144020036
Waagh's are technically allies and not you so it's okay
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>>144020176
Now, I liked the Empire campaign, but saying that there is enemy diversity is just a plain old lie. You fight other humans for a bit in the early game, and then its nothing but marauders and dog spam from up north.
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>mad modded unit size is 200
I can understand why, CA. But I'm still pissed.
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>>144020336
But his character is fucking awful

He performs brilliantly but fuck, I wanna be based Kemmler. Or Vlad.
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How is the difficulty slider in this game? I find myself not really being challenged after turn 80 on "Normal" but will Very Hard kick my but? Shall i step to Hard first?
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>>144020176
>Empire
>its one of the harder campaigns
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>>144020176
> it has the most enemy diversity,
you fight men, then vamps and then some chaos

Meanwhile goblins fight every single faction
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>>144020336
Still no less of a twat.
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>>144020397

I think 200 is enough, but it's still odd how it crashes here
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>>144020383

You get to fight the Empire and Orcs early game(And maybe even Bretonnia and Dwarves)

Then depending on how you branch out, you get to fight more of dorfs or Bretonnia, or you go east and fight Sylvania, or go south and possibly fight more orcs. Then you get to fight a bunch of Chaos
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>>144020260
Queek will probably be a complete beast in combat and give you Stormvermin bonuses.
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>>144020467
Try very hard campaign with normal battles (it's in the escape menu after you start the save)
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Is it true there's hidden files about elves and LL grom?
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>>144020556
>dwarves

No reason to do so

>Bretonnia

Never attacked me, no reason to attack them either.

>VC

Unless you immediately branch into Stirland to get to them, no. Also, trying to deal with both VC and chaos fuckers from the north is a retarded thing to do.

Orcs are always dead before you ever get to set foot in their territory. Being completely surrounded by Marienburg, Bretonnia and the dwarves does that.

Ultimately, you always fight humans, either with bows, guns or with dogs.
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>>144020594
>+5% campaign map movement
>-10% upkeep on stormvermin
>A banner for stormvermin (like grimgor's immortulz banner)
Done.
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>>144019451
RIP Richard III, Rightful King of England. Fuck Tudor usurpers and traitors.
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What are the chances that Araby appears at all, even as a generic unplayable faction?
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What is approximately a normal amount of turns to beat a Long Campaign on Hard as the Greenskins?

I could have beaten it earlier if I had realized I needed to take the far north settlements, and I knew how the Chaos worked going in, but I think I did decent.
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>>144020937
>campaign movement speed

Why is this a thing? It's too good not to take, but its boring.
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Fucking Varg and that other tribe. I just want to awaken the tribes and get the End Times going, but you keep razing and occupying the cities I awaken. Cunts.
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>>144021053
How do you want your battle senpai?
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Jesus christ I barely made it against the shitty small dwarf army at thundering falls
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>>144019451
There's one in development for M2
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>>144021269
He should have been returned to York for burial.
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>>144019763
can someone explain these factions to someone newish to WHFB

i know ulthuan is the atlantis thing and it contains high elves and i can guess that the emblem south of the empire is wood elves, but who are the others? isn't that lizard men in south america?
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>>144021180
I had the same experience, every tribe I awakened got razed and I couldn't eliminate the faction razing them without another one showing up to raze
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>>144021180
>raze a city
>go for the enxt one
>raze it
>Vargs reclaimed the previous city
>go raze it again
>they take the sea and fuck away
>this repeats for like 100 turns

FUCK

WHY DON'T THE TRIBES YOU AWAKEN BECOME DIRECTLY YOUR VASSALS

WHY ARE THOSE 2 FROZEN CUNTS SO POWERFULL

I FUCKING HATE NORSCA
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>>144020917

>dwarves
If you're not playing on a pussy difficulty, you wont get to make that choice
>Bretonnia
Expansion, and see above
>VC
>if you choose to completely avoid a faction, you wont see them
You're retarded, by that same logic I can just sail away from the badlands and not fight dwarves, therefore dwarves arent a part of the orcs enemies

You're an easy difficulty babby apparently
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>>144020080
then don't auto resolve ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>144020335

>Strigoi

Would be cool but probably not. More work to make too. I should clarify that I meant tabletop units
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>>144021346
>gobbos and their morale vs dwarfs
That bodes well
>>144021394
you have to awaken then and then immediately attack again to subjagate

It's horeshit
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>people complain that ai gets stat bonuses and doesn't become magically smarter on higher difficulties

how do people not realize this is what every rts/strat/gs game does
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What's the closest fight you've ever had, /twg/?
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Whoever chose Azhag's starting units should be fucking gutted. They're horrible compared to Grimgor

Azhag gets a Big'un while Grimgor gets a fucking Black Orc with the Immortulz banner.

Azhag gets the Spider Rider which isn't too bad, while Grimgor gets the Boar Boyz

Then Grimgor gets a Doom Diver Catapult, and Azhag gets a fucking GOBLIN ARCHER.

Combine that with the fact that you have to wait until level 8 to become a worse Manfred, and the memey as fuck "+10 diplomatic relations with Undead" I don't know why I'd ever play this guy.
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>>144021627
How do you lose in an area you can't be flanked in as dwarfs?
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>>144020663
If I start a campaign on easy are the battles still on normal? I'd check myself but I'm at work.
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>>144021589
How is it that we still accept bottom barrel ai like this?
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>>144021370
Lizard men in "South America". Dark elves in "North America". Tomb Kangz in "Africa". The red/white mark over Tilea/Estalia (Italy/Spain) is the Skaven, although they are everywhere, Skavenblight, their main hold, is located there. To the east is the Ogre Kingdoms (north) and the Chaos dwarfs (south)
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>>144020937
>>144021157
I assume because CA want to encourage players to get levelling early seeing as its a new feature.

Queek has some pretty cool items like Dwarf Gouger and that necklace and armour. If we get Thanquol, Queek and Ikit then Skaven would have really diverse character options.
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>>144021367
He was a King of England. To die in this sorted way, quartered like some low thief. Shame on the House of Tudor. Shame.
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>It's a Surtha Ek golden doomstack despite not having the experience or the technology asked for such an army
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>>144021756
Because that was this battle >>144019490

And it turns out it was three armies, not two.
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>>144019781
>Im hoping for a Krell LL considering he's the last vamp named hero alive in the time of Vlad
Didn't Abhorash never actually die?
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>>144021823
right on, thanks boss
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>>144021394
>>144021385
>>144021180

You do it with two hordes, dingdongs, don't start the great unification until archaon is stronger and can shit two baby hordes to travel across norsca while he razes kislev. Varg and Skaeling aren't gonna just roll over and become your bitches if you aren't taking them seriously.
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>>144021627
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>Get any kind of message as VCs
>Vampire waifus look super cute
>Actual vampire unit
>Looks like a grandma with too much make up
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>>144019781
Krell doesn't make sense as a LL as he's not a wizard and vamps kind of need some type of wizard to function.

Also Konrad is alive, confirmed ingame.
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>>144021589
It's not what every game does, a few do unshackle ai as difficulty goes up
Of course those are usually too easy on one difficulty and impossible on the next

>>144021764
IIRC it'll be easy
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Is there any way to make battle difficulty normal in coop? Would be shit to be forced to fight buffed AI.
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>>144021367
Pretty sure Richard wouldn't want to be buried in the Tudor heartland
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>>144021081
High
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>>144021346

>gobbos tryin' tah stump stuntys

Wut du ya fink wud 'appin' ya bleedin' grot?

Git sum boyz in ye'll 'ave a propah WAAAGH!!
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So what does battle difficulty affect in reality? Does it make the AI "smarter" at all, or does it simply affect the strength of his units?
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>>144021742
Wyvern mount, death magic to assassinate leaders? Azhag can easily kill Grimgor with three soul leeches whatever that spell is called. He also actually looks interesting while Grimgor wears incredibly dull armour.
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Is it me or this is a pretty big move radius=
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Does anyone know how you increase the amount of actual chariots in a chariot unit?
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>>144005790
what do you think of the economy right now in TW:WH?
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>>144022482
*farts at your army*

*it dies*

nice army kid
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Well the dwarfs are gone, so far, so good.
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>Planning on starting a new Empire campaign

Should I use Radious or no?
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>>144022519
Oh, never mind. Found it. It's the "Engine" tab if anyone else is looking for it.
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>>144022736
>He's doing it, the absolute madman!

You better rush those Arachnaroks
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>>144022761
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As brilliantly put by Cattalus, "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"; to describe the artistic qualia of Radious mod would be to describe music to the deaf, color to the blind or beauty to the philistine. The painting speaks for itself, and it is up to the player to fully absorb its depth. Its sublimity will ever be debated yet always remain objectively irrefutable; the fundamental insight it provides into human and perhaps animalistic nature may shape the basis of Total War modding for centuries to come.
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>>144022379
It mainly just gives them buffs meaning head to head with one unit and you'd lose. Even on hard.
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Even if it looks cool from a lore perspective, greenskins not able to capture any humie city feels so meh.
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>>144022761
>Dismounted Reiksguard Spider Rider Spear Chukkas (Halberds)

Yes
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>>144022598
Yes it does. And then the Night Gobbos attack your rear and trolls crash through your lines and a goant spider staarts eating your shit.
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>Attempt to assassinate a rank 30 Damsel
>Critical success
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Sigvald:

>Sickly, sinful, spectacles stand, shuffle, shamble and saunter shamelessly in mine scandalized sight! I suggest a solution...Surely such sedition should sour and succumb to Sigvald - the salacious, scandalous and sensational servant of Slaanesh! Son of Succubi, scion of sordid acts and slayer of squalid serfs!
>See how I stroll, stride, swagger and swirl, spin, and slash and stab at stupid, senseless scum! Soon they shall swoon, shall seek solace and death from sundry and torments wrought on them by my strategic, severing, scintillating shower of shimmering strikes!
>Send for the sword - summon Sliverslash!

V:

>But on this most auspicious of nights, permit me then, in lieu of the more commonplace soubriquet, to suggest the character of this dramatis persona.
>Voila! In view humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate.
>This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the “vox populi” now vacant, vanished.
>However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin, van guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.
>The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.
>Verily this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it’s my very good honour to meet you and you may call me V.

who did it better?
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>mfw the top knotz took every settlement south of karak eight peaks in my greenskin campaign
This isn't going to be fun to clear out, is it?
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Guys, I'm starting my first Empire playthrough on Hard and I'm scared, does anyone have any tips?
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>>144023056

Grimgor
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>>144019763
>impliying chaos dwarfs

Never gonna happen.
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>>144022914
Is there a source for this pasta? Or did it just come from here?
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>>144023120
I hope you enjoy boars hitting your side
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>>144022470
>implying grimgor couldn't kill a lord faster than 3 soul leeches

Two hits, kid. Two hits.
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>Dwarves did more damage to the empire than all of Chaos

Kek, time to go genocide some midgets
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>>144022153
In warhammer, to be clear.
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>>144023189

secure Reikland, get Marienburg, then sit on your ass while building second army, teching up and getting economy rolling
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>>144023056
V makes so much more sense if you treat him as a Chaos Champion. Headcannon accepted.
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>>144022736
This is probably a dumb question, what did you do with your LL? There's no gobbo LL as far as I know
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>>144022919
Mainly? So does it affect the intelligence of the AI at all?
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>>144023238
>greenskins actually doing shit

kek, first time for everything i guess
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>>144023192
you can't have the mountain of mourns without the Darklands
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>>144023210
I'm just going to use a lot of doomdivers and hope for the best, I think.
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>>144023359
In my current Vampire Counts campaign, the Bloody Spearz somehow beat the Dwarves and now rule the mountains, while Grimgor shares the Balands with his Top Knot alies.
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So which faction has the strongest/easiest economy
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>play Botet
>play Reikland

Since I'm surrounded by allies what do I do? Spam end turn and build up my towns like I'm playing EB?
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>>144023326

I just replaced him with a generic Goblin great shaman

Destroying the main dwarf faction early ensures no confederations, on the other hand the bloody spears have no natural enemy
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>>144023639
Dwarves are the easiest faction, bar none. Both to manage and on the battle map.
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>>144023639
The blessed land of sigmar of course
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>>144022736
What difficulty are you on?
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>>144023639
Dwarfs by far. Several gold mines+Brightstone mine in neighbouring provinces, and half the top research tree is nothing but bonus gold from everything that can produce godl.
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>Slaughter captives dozens of times
>Still unable to summon archeon

What gives?

Also, i'm 200+ turns in and no quests or unique items. Am I missing something, or is there something wrong?
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>>144021892
Two provinces away marches Felman Ingerson with less experienced troops, but he brought two stacks of friends with him.
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What other LLs would you want to see for the existing races in the base game?

Volkmar (AKA: Not Pope) imho seems like the next logical choice for Empire. Able melee warrior, but primarily a spell slinger, he sort of splits the difference between Franz and Gelt.

Campaign traits would probably look something like Gelts, with bonuses to Warrior Priests and Witch Hunters. Maybe even some kind of factionwide reduction to Vampiric and Chaos corruption.

I have no idea what kind of starting units though.
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>>144023359
in all my campaigns greenskins absolutely stomp manlets at first and then suddenly start losing after the dwarves are limited to the mountains in the empire land
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Where's the mod that gives Empire archers already? I don't want bloody crossbows or guns I want cheap archers! I don't know why CA didn't include them when they'd just have to reskin some Bretonnian archers
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>>144023797

Hard
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>>144023368
Ogres will be an horde faction, mark my words.
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>>144023991
Shouldn't he be more of an amped up Warrior Priest, rather than an in-between of Gelt and Franz?
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How do Orkz deal with Cav?

Don't say gobbos.
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>>144024195
That's exactly what a hybrid between the two would be, a melee spell caster
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the AI in this game kind of pisses me off.

>be big Dawi chair-man
>fend off massive Top Knot waaaagh on Dok Karaz, reloaded the save about 3 times to figure out how to win vs free 20-stack that's half cavalry
>they get BTFO
>take Karak 8 Peaks
>take Grom Peak simultaneously
>start moving to take the whole of Badlands
>THEY STILL WANT FUCKING DOK KARAZ
>they sail little boats up to take Dok Karaz whilst I move in to take 3 different capitals.

like I'm just about to take 2 of their provinces that they've left entirely undefended and all they give a shit about is a tiny settlement worth like 200 gold.

At first Top Knots invasions were kind of fun but it's a bit shit that all these siege battles I should be enjoyed are only worthy of auto-resolve because AI doesn't defend their shit.
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>>144024226
Boar boyz?
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>>144023056
V.
I might be just gay for Weaving's delivery though.
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>>144022470
8 levels of being trash, then finally becoming discount Manfred. Compared to Grimgor being a beast the entire game.

>Death Magic to assassinate leaders

Compared to Grimgor just smacking them for 10 seconds, then killing half the guys army :^)
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Do you guys think the Expansions will have different campaign scenarios available? Or are they all going to be about the Chaos bird invasion from the north?
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>>144024226

Boarz
Doomdivers
Arrows
Big uns
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Oh-oh
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>>144023056
What did he mean by this?
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>>144024270
But he wouldn't use the magic reserves though.
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>>144023654
>Since I'm surrounded by allies what do I do?
You conquer them all.
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>>144023991
Vilitch motherfucker. Gimme them god-lores, baby.
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>>144023654
Hello?
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>>144024226
Big Spideys are pretty decent. If you get a good angle they're fast enough to catch them and they can't hurt the spideys too much.
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>>144024620
hey
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So what race deserves to get the "Very Hard" or "Legendary" start?

Beastmen or Skaven for Very Hard, I doubt there will be a Legendary start.
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>>144024447
It begins.
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>>144024558
>betraying my fellow allies

N-no
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Is it truly good? I still feel bitter about pre ordering empire and rome 2 only for them to be steaming piles of shit and I'm mad about not being able to pirate this one in petty revenge.
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>>144024695
Halflings would be legendary.
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I BTFO WoC in my Empire campaign and now I'm just cleaning up Norsca and the Badlands. Does Chaos ever come back?
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>>144024695
Wood Elves?
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>>144023337
I'm not actually sure. Not significantly if at all.
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>be one of the strongest four dwarves in the karaz ankor
>world full of enemies to be slain, grudges to be settled, threats to eliminate
>tasked instead to hold up a lazy dwarf's giant metal ass extension
>watch as kin and clansmen die in battle
>best you can do is run a little faster and push the throne into the enemy in the hopes that either you or the king dies

suffering
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>>144024348
>>144024226
I don't think trying to counter equals on legendary is a good idea.

I fucking surround them with black orkz, and the fuckers still find a way out.

>>144024663
Haven't tried that yet. Need a bit to unlock.
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Man the early VC vs VC fights are silly, just mass melee against each other is awkward
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>http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?731465-WARHAMMER-Radious-Total-Units-Mod-(Released-31-5-2016)&p=14993806&viewfull=1#post14993806

>Dwarf Cavalry
>Zombie Archers
>Chaos Rifles

He did it the absolute madman
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>>144024418
I reckon each chaos type will be it's own campaign
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>>144024828
>N-no
That's quite a compelling argument there. However consider this: y-yes.
They are standing in your way to have fun. Especially if they stop being retards and actually expand their borders. You'll be the hole in their doughnut. Not even the filling.
And then they will betray you anyway.
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>>144025057
that dumbass chair bothers me so much
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>>144024865
I've been playing it nonstop every day since release, so I think it's pretty great.

I loved Shogun 2 but wasn't a huge fan of Rome 2, and I'm loving this one.
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>>144025315
>>144025057
The worst part is he doesn't even have to sit in that chair, he could get off it and charge into battle, but instead hes a lazy fuck
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>>144023337
CA cant program AI.

To be fair this time its better than Rome 2(not hard), but as always increasing difficulty only changes the rules by artificially reducing your numbers(wheter the be Public order, income or unit strength) and increasing the AIs
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>>144023783
>Read comments like this
>Boot up a Dwarves campaign
>First battle
>Enemy just sits there jerking off until I walk my midgets all the way across the map

Not really how I pictured playing Dwarves desu. Gonna restart as the High King so I get that Grudge Thrower to start.
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>>144023839
Its a bug slaughtering them is actually "releasing" them.
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>>144025057
At least they have armour.
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>>144025447

>Having the honor of carrying the Throne of Power.
>A burden.

Holy shit man.
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how do I deal with Norsca as empire? They always become late game monsters and It's hard to press into their provinces without getting boat loads of attrition.
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>50 second duration
>30 second cooldown
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>>144025168
Force a massive zombie v zombie blob in the early game then raise late game units from the corpses. My 4000 casualty battle with Templehof almost completely filled an army with late game units. I was tolling around on turn 20 with a Terrorgeist, Black Coach, Vargheists, ect ect
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>>144023991
>yo dawg heard you like hammers
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>>144022736
but Anon, did you just auto-resolve or did you actually fight?
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HELP I DONT GET INVOCATION OF NEHEK

IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO DO SHIT
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>>144025202
>I am no Warhammer expert, i know very little of it and honestly i dont care much if every single unit is 100% lore accurate.
No shit.
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>>144025202
>missle b lack orc

They 'ave choppas for a reason.

DEY ARE FIGHTY BOYZ NOT ARRER BOYZ
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>>144022736
That's a little bit too fast isn't it?
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>>144025806
>Playing a Total War Warhammer overhaul made by a retard who knows nothing about Warhammer and doesn't give a shit about Warhammer

Fucking Redditors.
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>>144024570
Holy FUCK that's a cool model.
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>>144025202

>THORUNGRIMGOR IRONFISTHIDE (High Orc Slayer King)
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>>144025202
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>>144025202
Oh the fun I'm going to have with custom battles.
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>Archaon runs away with half health like a little bitch nigga

How many times do I have to kill this guy before he fucks off forever?
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>>144017475
>win an amazing battle against 6000 chaos
>save a replay of it to have a better look at high settings
>the replay isn't actually a replay of what happened in the battle
>in the replay, I lose the battle and my right flank gives way
>I actually won the battle and won with my reinforcements

fucking DONT CALL YOUR REPLAYS REPLAYS YOU BITCH THEY AREN'T
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>>144025202
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>>144022736
Gork speed Gobbo
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>>144025896
Why do you hate fun anon?
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>>144026140
Did you download any AI mods? That ruins save files
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>>144017584
All about the dread and the throwing useless zombie stacks at the enemy

I always roll 1 army fully of zombies and another of decent units, eventually by late game rolling 2-3 decent army's but always with a bunch of zombies in tow

throw your zombies in first either as an anvil or to simply tire the enemy out

then throw in your better units after

then revive your dead zombies and start all over again
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>>144025495
So is one of the other options the right one?
Or can I never recruit Archeon?
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>>144018927
>you will never be roughly fucked by your war dog after a furious battle
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>>144025896
>how can I make this Warhammer game better? I know, let's make it less like Warhammer!
It's like pottery.
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>>144025696

I supported the Waagh army, it was like 90-10 in our favour
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>>144026371
I don't think you can get Archaon maybe try to other options.
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>>144025202
>Chaos Rifles
Dwarves on goats I can understand
Zombies with bows could be possible
but fucking Norsemen with guns?
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>>144023991
Well I want a general Night Goblin expansion with Mangla squigs, squig hoppas & herders and Snarsnik & Gobba as the LL.

Shit would be pretty awesome.

Anvil Rune Dwarf dude would be another cool LL, as he's basically a warmachine. In fact I'm not even sure if he can move on TT.
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>>144026173
I hope they do give dwarves bear cavalry so they can use the model for kislev and give them a full roster
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What does the striped area in the balance of power bar represent? The one that shows up before battles.
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>>144026375
Dude wut the fuck?
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>>144023839
>>144026371
You need to sacrifice them for cash money to get Archaon.
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Now this is pod racing, our Gobbo army grows stronger
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>>144026329
>using mostly bats and zombies with key units
>overwelmingly win every battle
>have to fight every battle manually because the auto resolve is WRONG

I love bats. They kill any archer and ranged cav unit
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>>144026572
Uncertainty in the result. Based on how good you commander is.

If you hover over it a message will tell you this
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>>144026748
>They kill any archer


Haven't fought dwarfs yet I see.
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>Fall of the Eagles quality mod for Warhammer never
>Radious gets his retarded mod day fucking one
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>>144026457
but it's Karaz-a-Karak anon...
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>>144026487
>zombies with bows could be possible

No, zombies are fucking stupid. It take training and a fucking brain to use a bow, way more than a rifle or whatever.

Skelletons could, however. Or rather Grave Guards
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Does Radious give a fug that he's literally ruining the paradigms of the factions by giving them these things?
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>>144026876
Bats are cheep dwarfs are expensive so with a liberal application of bats a unit of quarrellers will die in the end.

Gotta think like a VC
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>>144026924
Warhams is going to have a shittone of overhaul mods.

And there's already some really quality ones, like that blood dragon one.
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>>144027061
That's atleast 3 bats per unit though.
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What does balthasar look like under the helm and what would happen if you took it off him
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>>144026604
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>>144027013
>It take training and a fucking brain to use a bow, way more than a rifle or whatever.
Wew lad
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anyone else have steam just shit the bed on them
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>>144027043
No. I doubt he even plays the game. He just posts mods on the forums for appraise from the plebs.
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>>144027207
it would be extremely painful
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>>144027013
Skeleton bowmen do exists in the tabletop. They're so bad nobody play them though. Completely useless.
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Does the game just cheat spawn these stacks for the ai? or did it actually raise and rank up this army?
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>>144027213
What exactly are you trying to say mate.
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>>144027303
you're a big guy
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>>144027402
for you
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>>144026751
Thanks. So basically bigger randomness for autoresolve. I didn't see it in mine. Maybe I don't have extended tooltips or something.
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>>144026924
You can count on the fact that with time the "closer to codex" mods will come
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>>144027392
Muzzle-loading rifles take more training and a brain by far.
>inb4 you mention English longbowmemes
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>>144026604
kek
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>>144026710
>Only somewhat useful gobbos are night gobbo fanatics
>they don't have spears

Thanks CA!
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>>144027319
They're Tomb Kings, and they aren't awful, the entire faction is.

VC is very strictly the 0 range faction, that's their thing, Dwarfs are the 0 speed faction, everybody except Empire lacks something and you play around it, that's how Warham works
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???
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>>144027350
Do you really need to ask that question anon?
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>>144027458
I've literally never had risk magic fail
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>>144027213
Historically, armies that fielded archers had archery in their culture and trained from a young age while crossbows and muskets were able to be given to levyssdzx
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>>144025721
It stops your troops from dying unless they are taking shit loads of damage. if they are taking no damage then it starts bringing back dead ones but doesn't until each individual living unit is at full health..
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>>144027319
Proof that tabletop gamers are abelist. Just because skeletons dont have eyes doesn't mean they cant be good marksbones.
Check your flesh privilege and all that.
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>>144027458

I want her to suck on my neck and dribble my blood on her chest
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>>144027568

But I'm on casual normal mode, even in Normal this shit happens?
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>>144027604
And levy riflemen were often shit like any other levy. What's your point?
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>>144027213
He's right
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>>144027557
>he hasn't had karl franz himself lead a stack of three armies directly into the chaos wastes 20 turns into the game
what are you on easy?
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>>144027476
Guns were so braindead easy to use, they completely replaced the previous braindead easy to use ranged weapon, the crossbow in record time.
In the 30y War, they literally made a little pamphlet with pictures on how to load a gun properly for all the illiterate soldiers, because that was the only remotely difficult thing about it. Pointing a stick somewhere and pulling a trigger is not in any way difficult, unlike actually using a bow.
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>>144027319
I remember Tomb Kings bowmen being monsters with their Arrows of the Asp
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>>144025113
They're big with high speed, a good charge bonus, poison attacks, and 150 armor. I'd recommend them 100%
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>>144024883
>Halflings would be legendary.
Isn't The Moot already in the game as a normal town?
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>>144027615
kek


>>144017475
Should I just hold off Chaos and go for the campaign win as orks or focus on killing Chaos?
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>>144026127
not until the doomtide event

it goes from chaos incursion, which is basically raiding chaos, to archy appearing in chaos invasion event and cinematic. he will keep coming back along with his stacks until you get the doom tide event, then you can finally kill him and his stacks
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>>144027350
>Does the game just cheat spawn these stacks for the ai?

Of course it does. AI gives zero fucks about upkeep, recruit/build cost, recruit/build time, lord wounded time, travel distance while obscured by fog, freshly recruited unit rank, etc. Just always expect the worst as you play.
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>>144027687
The point is that despite them being shit, they were better than other levy due to how easy guns are to use in comparison.
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>>144027687
My point is that you are wrong. They were only shit because they'd run from bayonet charges. They'd still shoot their guns just fine. It doesn't take very long to learn how to stuff powder in a barrel.
>>
DA LITTLE WAAAGH IS GROWING STRONGAH
>>
Having a great time with my VC campaign, they are so fun. The units are amazing and great fun to use, and the campaign mechanics are different enough from the rest to make it interesting.

Best faction so far, only faction i have not completed is Empire so far.
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>>144025315
>>144025057
The chair's the reason I went with the other lord

It only looks dumb because it's dwarfs too, Greasus' version is fantastic
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>>144026258
I did download the officer mod but apart from that nothing that could affect ai
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>>144026604
It's a doggy-dog world, anon.
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When will the latest total war game be stealable? Thanks!
>>
How often do you auto resolve?
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>>144027935
>>144027910
Using guns effectively takes training, especially seeing that volume of fire is key. That takes a lot of drilling. Riflemen formations also come into play which is even more training.
>>
>still cant trade lands in diplomacy

;_;
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>>144024447
WEEZ GOBBOS!
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>>144027987
On the topic of waagh, how do you handle them in the gobbo campaign?

They contain orcs, don't they?
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>auto resolve
>the expensive monster units always die or takes a lot of damage
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Why does attila seem to have no torrents?
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>>144028070
And this differs from bow formations how, aside from not actually being very taxing on the body and not requiring additional training on how to properly use your weapon?
>>
How to use Kemmler, so far im level 10 and have only been leveling his spells.

I have the Debuff, buff heal and raise dead.
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>>144028070
Your comparing a life time of practice vs a 60 day boot camp.
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>>144027850
So twice isn't enough huh. I've wiped out all the other Chaos stacks, killed Sigvald 3 times or so, Archaon twice now, and Kholek fucked off in a boat but now is about to get his giant ass pounded, so I hope that shit comes soon because this is getting trivial.
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>>144027458
What a sunny day
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World War One total war when?
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>>144027476
Yes i have been baited


>bow takes years to learn
>can teach a child to load and operate a rifle (even a muzzle loader) to a very high standard in about 2 months tops

Why do you think we stopped using bows

From an archer of 12 years
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>>144028093

I already asked and people said since they are technically an allied faction it's okay
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sleep tite sigvald
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>>144028093
Hes using them as they are just allies technically
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>>144027830
Campaign win holding Chaos.

They keep resettling the towns I sack(which makes for a big slush fund to build up my cities) and that in turns lets me support larger armies.

By End Times, I met Archaon and the Changer of Ways in a slugfest of epic proportions. They trounced my combined armies, but the thing is, I crippled theirs...and I had two more left over.
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>>144026375
>Top knotz
That explains them a bit.
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>>144028232
just be thankful that your playing against vanilla chaos and not increased horde sizes

having 10 full stack chaos armies coming down to rape you makes for a very painful experience
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LIZARDMEN WHEN

GIMME MY FUCKING DINOS ON DINOS ACTION YOU BASTARDS.
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>>144028259
never
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>>144028464
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Why are guns so shit compared to crossbowmen?
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>>144027691
It takes no training to use the gun. It takes training to actually hit something with said gun.
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>>144028406
the madman

i got so hard and tried so far but i can't beat legendary as sigvald end my life
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I jsut finished a Greenskin campaign and happily built Grimgor as a fighter, and it was glorious. Should I do the same with Karl Franz, or should I build him to buff my troops?
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>>144028470
Sounds like a terrible thing

I'm using the Chaos Wait mod that increases their stacks by 2 I believe, along with 2x build and research times and that was hard enough for me
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I never want to see another skeleton ever again
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>>144027350
I had a rebellion spawn veteran troops before I fucking got any
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>>144028646
Use both you fucking pleb.

2 units of crossbowmen behind your line, and 2 units of gunners to flank with. Guns absolutely fucking murder.
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>>144028660
>end my life

You probably should with those graphic settings dear god.
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>>144028102
Auto resolve forces scenarios where nothing routes ever. This is why monstrous creatures fucking get massacred.

If you don't believe me just play a VC campaign and make an army with lots of scary units.

Pic related was a quest battle for the sword of unholy power or whatever. That second army literally never even joined the fight because I made so many of the orcs from the original army route, and that killed all of their morale and made them loose.

Generally speaking any other faction would have to have killed like 5 times as many things as I did to win. I have more pictures of this shit too, where auto resolves tell me DECISIVE DEFEAT and I lose every unit but kill like 1300 out of 2500 empire soldiers, but when I actually play the battle I only kill about 250, lose about 60, and get Heroic Victory.

If you want to be lazy, go with infantry and cav and arty. If you want to shit on people go with creatures and arty.
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>>144028646
guns are good for garrisons but crossbows are just better in every way

>better range
>less finicky in aiming
>cheaper
>less micro
>only downside is you need to bring maybe 4 to have serious effects

I am tempted to make a 20 stack handgunner army soon though just for the giggles
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>>144027458
>>144028240
Is there a lore excuse for vamps being able to fight in the day in the game?
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>>144028761
Oh shit nigga, look out inside you!
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>Playing dwarfs
>Picked Ungrim for slayers
>Settling grudges, killing grobi.
>Suddenly get the pudding grudge
>wat
>Have to use hero against rival hold for stealing Thorgrim's favorite pudding chef.
>Fail 3 times
>4th time, hero assaults hold.
>Grudge fulfilled, Thorgrim becomes recruitable
That must be one hell of a good pudding.
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>>144028761

How spooked were you?
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>>144028158
They started disappearing around the time TW:WH got released. I guess they started cracking down on them.
There are still some around though but your best bet is a private tracker.
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>>144027550
>>144027787

No I'm talking about the Vampire Counts. They used to have skelly archers. I'm going to assume most of you started with a newer/the newest version and it's not in there anymore but they used to have skelly archers and they had like 1 or 2 BS which was awful
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>>144028695
Fighter. Karl is an assassin, have a warrior priest or captain supporting your line. Karl's job is to hurl fireballs from deathclaw then swoop in at a good time and pulp the enemy lord.
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When Chaos is killed off do they eventually come back?
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>>144028043
Whenever it's a massive advantage to me and doesn't look fun

As vamps almost never because autoresolve always almost kills my monsters

Shame you can't autoresolve quests as you have to do them every fucking playthrough
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>>144028927
I think it's this setting. Vamps that have fed recently can survive sun exposure for a couple hours.
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>>144028756
Try the longer/harder chaos horde mod

increases the chaos horde size by your difficulty, this was my game on hard with the final chaos wave

on very hard I think they add another stack and on legendary they create a 10 stack
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>>144028695
Every empire general needs honest steel first.
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>>144028474
You just want to fuck rats, don't you.
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>>144028646
Crossbows fire over units from wherever

Guns are better but you have to line up clear shots
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>>144028043
Whenever I don't need to fight a battle to win it.

The only time I fight is when the computer would lose it and I could win it if I ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL it.

Curbstomps just aren't fun for me.
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DA LITTLE WAAAGH GROWS EVEN STRONGAH

Thanks to the confederation with the bloody spears and all their territoris
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>>144028927
Not really. In the lore, vampires and necromancers have spells to obscure the sky, as certain units cannot fight under the sun, like ethereal units.
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>>144029047
nope

once they're dead they're dead
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>>144029272
>da little waagh
you real cute bud
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>>144028986
Eh I'm not that bothered, I just wanted to test performance before I get it next sale

Warhammer's got me back into TW
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>>144029234
Not him, but I want to Light Wizard the fuck out of Skaven.
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I'm really glad they fixed the combat in attila with one last patch before they went on to warhammer
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>>144028879
>he doesn't want the highest optimization
casual shit...
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STAND STILL AND TAKE IT LIKE A MAN GOD DAMN IT
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So bretonnia will be the new easiest faction, right?
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>>144029539
>5 income

what the fuck are you doing, running 4 stacks of steam tanks?
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>>144029563
Theoretically

Their core units would give them an amazing troop type for each of TW's major categories
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>>144029539
More like Kholek Dick-taker.

>you will never deliver cleansing fire to medieval Chaos troops from an apache gunship.
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>>144029539
>like a man

Kholek is a female dragon ogre, anon.
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>>144029539
>being mean to Kholek

N-no!
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>>144029539
>63 coins
>+5 a turn
>On turn 243

NIgga what are you even doing?
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When did they turn the Von Cartseins into shitty Blood Dragon? They used to be the stereotypical Dracula Count.

Look at this Mannfred and tell me he's not ten time better looking.

Can I even hope to see Zacharias aka the most expensive, badass, lord in the whole game?
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>>144029413
>fixed the combat in attila
Fixed how?
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>>144029668
Basically
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>>144029539

>turn 243
>chaos still around

I wiped those guys out on turn 110, what the fuck are you doing
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>Turn 26 chaos invasion

CHAOS FEARS GOBBOZ
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I thought all provincial capitals have walls, but I just captured one (forget the name) and walls are a separate building that can be constructed.... Why?
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>>144029789
They made the shield walls not reform sideways for instance
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>>144029234
>144029234
>>144029234
Up their hairy, matted arse. Fuck those filthy rats. Fuck them to death.

Fuck them in their beds.
Fuck them in their homes
Fuck them in their realms and in their cities.
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>>144029912
Preach it, brother!
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>>144029834
2x Build/Research Time Mod + Chaos delay mod on Very Hard

>>144029706
Running 5 stacks of top tier units of course
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>>144030059
When do i get to eat rats with my trex
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>massive 120+ unit battle with Grimgor/Azhag vs. Archaon and Kholek
>win, start to transfer units to a garrison in a backwater province
>"warhammer.exe has stopped working"
kill me, this is when I remember to save after important battles.
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>>144029902
seriously? nice, where can we see the rest of the changes?
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>>144030059
Warhammer really is a furry's delight.
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>>144028660
you need to get a 480 when that comes out in a month
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>>144029876
You can upgrade the walls with another building, it basically just adds garrison and more powerful towers
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Now they understand that Grimgor is da best.
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>>144030294
It's also shit.
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>>144030294
>a saurus will never grasp you by the waist, hefting you under his arm like a bag of flour before he takes you into the darkest jungle, never to be seen again
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>>144030237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsevGnolWF8
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So from my experience with the goblin campaign goblins beat orc boyz in a 1v1, but orc boyz are better than goblins against dwarf warriors
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>>144030294
I see no fur there.
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So am I correct in assuming that grabbing a horsey, then Honest Steel, then going full Combat is the way to go with Franz?
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>>144030301
it was top of the line 8 years ago
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>>144029252

This. Or if I'm massively outnumbered but the garrison and enemy composition is such that I can inflict more damage than auto will, but I usually auto-resolve if it's stacked against me too. Fuck wasting 10 minutes just to kill an extra ork.

Problem is I end up auto-resolving the game away because the vast majority of battles end up being curb stomps for one side.
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>>144030401
>Fall of the Samurai/TW:Warhammer crossover will never happen
Just kill me now. I want to remove fantasy bullshit with Armstrong guns and Royal Marines.
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>>144030507
You don't need top of the line fucker this is 200 dollars and runs total war max settings silk smooth
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FUUUCK

How is it that a minor province riddled with vampiric corruption is able to field 2 armies and have 200+ happiness?

Fuck this legendary campaign.
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>>144030294
>Want to play as the Lizardmen in the Mount and Blade mod Warsword Conquest
>So far away from everything that you don't ever fight anything
>May get to play as them in the near future in Total War

This makes my dick go doki doki
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>>144030624
it's been on for about 8 years straight i mean
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>>144025057
I think in the miniatures game they fight.
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>>144030442
>you will never be a saurus war bride
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Can someone tell me what the 'High King' passive ability for Thorgrim? It says it grants immunity to Psychology within 250m radius - do all my men become fearless or what.
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>>144030816
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Parthia will Rule the World!
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>>144030464
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>>144030659
>>So far away from everything that you don't ever fight anything
That was my biggest problem with the mod. God help you if you wanted to join an army as a footsoldier.
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>>144031017
who?
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Does balance of power in custom battles ever make sense? I use up 99% of allotted gold and no matter what, the enemy will always have at least a 75/25 advantage
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>>144031121
Fantasyfag plz leave.
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>>144030378
>Not making them join the confederation and smashing stunties as Rotgut
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>>144031095
>undead pirate killed by undead pirate
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>>144031095
Hey wait
That's my screenshot!
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>>144031209
This is our general now historyfag.
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>>144031121

Surely you've heard of the Parthians anon! Remember Crassus and the destruction of his forces?
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>Had to use a garrison with orcs in them

I feel filthy

WHERE MY GOBBOZ AT
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>>144031095
Yeah, it was really fun but you can just take a quick look at the map and realize that you'll never fight anything if you play as half the races. The AI just won't travel that far away to go attack people.
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>>144031410
I'm not giving it back!
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As greenskins should I start off raiding other tribes or start working down the dwarves and border princes to pressure the others into confederation
>>
So

armor + great wep > armor + shield
unarmored + great wep < unarmored + shield
armored + shield > unarmored + great wep?
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Is it at all possible to modify the auto resolve behaviour? I really, really want to use the Chaos monster unit but having to manually fight out every single garrison no matter how small is just incredibly tedious.

If you don't do it your monsters almost die and you have to hunker down for 10 turns trying to heal them.
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>>144030905
yeah but only if thorgrim's leadership becomes low
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>>144031645
shields will lose a majority of the time against great weapons regardless. i'd focus on using shields to soak up missiles nearly exclusively desu
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>>144031209
this is the new /twg/ enjoy your stay
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>>144031847
No that's not true, put marauder great weps against marauder with shield and shields win all the time.
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>>144031017
woah crazy map. who are the greenskins in this?
>>
A question for the lore guys. Are there any races that absolutely will not corporate with each other? I'm getting gangbanged by Dwarves on two fronts but one wants a peace treaty. I'm assuming as an Orc if I want to "roleplay" I shouldn't accept it?
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>>144032013
as a general basis, great weapons will win, mostly because fucking everything is armoured.
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>>144032078
Not getting krumped today means you can come back later and stomp 'em gud.
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>>144031790

naisu, thanks. Do you think it's worth a point? I only have 3 points left.
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>wanna play empire
>but also wanna use gelt
>mfw gelt is such ass I am just going to wait for a patch that will buff him

sad part is I only like gelt because he looks badass and sounds awesome.

but dear god he is fucking abysmal.
>>
For the Dwarfs:

Slayers
Gyrocopters
Irondrakes
Organ Guns
Flame Cannon

These are all useless. Fun but useless.
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>>144032078
Orcs and dwarves never

Orcs and Empire never

Empire and Chaos never

Undead and Dwarves never
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>>144031017
>dat macedonia

How.
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>>144031494
you seem to be posting this shit pretty quickly m8

are you one of those auto-resolve blokes?
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Have they fixed this game yet?

I'm waiting for a patch before I start my CV campaign.
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>>144032406
Yeah, it also gives them more attack iirc. You can easily turn the tide of battle when that activates.
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>>144032460

I literally just posted a battle...
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>>144032436
Why are they useless?
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>>144032423
gelts lore of metal is pretty good. you can't use him like karl in combat though.

also remember offensive spells are shit, where as buffs/debuffs are great
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Goddamnit big unz, they are the kryptonite for my army, enough armor to go past my armour piercing, they all have anti large so they counter trolls.

I can only hope to hammer and anvil with my wolf riders
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>>144032708
Slayers - Very soft, so easy to kill. You're better off using other your ranged units to take down large units

Gyrocopters - Pathetic bomb and ranged damage and to my surprise, absolute shit at melee.

Irondrakes - Quarrelers do the job better

Organ Guns - Quarrelers do the job better

Flame Cannon - Quarrelers do the job better
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>>144032742
Spirit Leech says Hi.
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>>144032742
>also remember offensive spells are shit
Feels like they are intended for smaller unit sizes.
>>
How the fuck do I stop my pops from rebelling? I can fucking stomp the enemy's stacks, but every time I leave my provinces I lose all my settlements to rebels.

Reeeee.
>>
>>144032742
>spirit leech
>shit
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>>144025721
It does.
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Can someone give me a few tips in regards to the Empire's Technology tree. It's a little overwhelming with them having so many units and tech options.
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>>144033007
>>144033121
i'm talking about the lore of metal.

fate of bjunas pretty good at taking things out as well, but the empire doesn't get that

they do get accuse with witch hunters though
>>
>>144031416
>>144031963
Only 'till Medieval 3, lads. Enjoy while you can.
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>>144033182
Spam swords/crossbows early game. Pistoliers are shit, you only need one or two spear units at most.

From there on in it just depends on what you want.

Outriders are the only somewhat decent missile cav in the game though. I know missle cav was fucking retarded in Atila but it seriously sucks in this game. Gobbo chariots in particular are an absolute joke.
>>
How fresh is Warhammer then, in terms of new gameplay and the like? I went off from Total War for a while, got the hankering to play Shogun FOTS again, and then TA:TW when I found out about this.
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>>144033182
50% of its useless, 50% of its great
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>>144032941
>tfw you realize Organ Guns are useless, but you absolutely love the idea of them so you waste a few army slots to lug them around anyway
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>>144033349
>Only 'till Medieval 3, lads.

>He thinks CA is gonna make a Med 3.
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>first TW
>play campaign on easy
>think I've got the hang of it
>decide to try it on normal
>win first battle with secessionists
>second secessionist group sneaks up on me afterwards
>get my shit kicked in
>karl franz wounded
>marienburg declares war
>takes eilhart
>>
>>144032941
Organ Guns are actually useful - they fill a similar role as Thunderers (AP ranged) but actually have a decent range and can chew through elite units if you protect them and have a good enough firing angle.

Rest is accurate - Irondrake damage is depressing considering how low their range is.
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>>144026924

>I won't have to do any work besides ad-hoc texturing and modeling once we get the Variant editor/3dsmax files.
>And even then at most all I'd want to muck around with is Empire and the stuntys.

I'm sure some warham fans will step up for the total overhall stuff though.But free at last, free at last, thank CA almighty I am free at last.
>>
>>144033467
organ guns can be pretty good. i've had a couple surprise me with a couple hundred kills each in a battle where my quarrelers only got double digit kills
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>>144032902
Where the fuck are your night goblin archers

they absolutely shit over all the other orcs
>>
Holy shit am I gonna make it against a stack of big uns and night goblins?
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>mfw the elector counts got summoned
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>>144032941
>using slayers to kill big units

That's your problem. Slayers are literally Dwarf Cavalry. Use them as a hammer and they shit on whatever they attack.
>>
>>144033653

Thanks to Alexander my friends
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>>144033837
PROTECT
HIS
SMILE
>>
Can I run round the map hiding my army from the enemy for an hour to win a battle?
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>>144033871
>That's your problem. Slayers are literally Dwarf Cavalry. Use them as a hammer and they shit on whatever they attack.

I think you might be retarded anon.
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>>144033871
Nah. They get MINCED by ranged. If you try to use them like that they'll die in seconds.

They can also really be used as a reactionary force.
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>>144033374
I was planning on focusing on troops such as Demigryph Knights, Greatswords. and Reiksguards.

I keep forgetting though, do buildings apply their effects to everything in the Province? For example, would a Warhorse Breeder's Stables need to be in the same city as the Reiksfort, or could I have a Reiksfort is Grunburg and a Stables in Helmgart and still get the buffs?
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>>144033908
If they attacked you, then yeah.

I miss doing that to be a shit in Medieval 2

>Besiege a castle with 1 cav unit
>put the unit in the corner of the map
>let them march towards me until theyre almost touching
>run the cavalry to the town centre
>cap it
>win

Unless they had their own cavalry.
>>
>>144033837
>iron cross
>no christianity

explain this lorefags
>>
>>144033948
I think you might be retarded.

Go play a battle as drofs. Use your Slayers in terms like cav. Only hammer on your anvil. Watch enemies fall to pieces. Show me a fucking dorf unit that can move fast enough and kill as fast in the same scenario. I bet you can't unless you're using miners with satchel charges or some other retarded shit.

>>144034029
Well no fucking shit, I said use them to hammer, not fucking chase outriders.
>>
>>144034085
They're Germans?
>>
>>144033874

Only true understanders will get this joke my friends
>>
>>144034085
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Cross
>>
Anybody using a mod that reworks artillery?

Any recommendations?
>>
What the hell are the balloons on empire buildings for?

Civilians signalling for the enemy?
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>tfw you get to summon electrocunts
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Do we have a list of spells that are actually worth spending magic on during battles? So many of them feel so underwhelming, exceptions being Fate of Bajuna or whatever and Spirit Leech for Manny.

>>144032941

Both the flame and torpedo Irondrakes? Fuck, I just invested in a couple flamers and organ guns.

>>144032646

Sounds great. Picking it. I need all the help I can get. I'm on turn 95 on Legendary and I'm still in the first province fending off 5-7 stack invasions.
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Are there any warhammer based movies? Any decent books I would like? Never played tabletop and am only familiar through games like this and bloodbowl and reading some tg wiki.
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>>144034152
Do you outnumber the fucking enemy 2 to 1 and you are free to just flank at will? Any unit that flanks will be at an advantage, but unless they are quick as cavalry they will probably be stopped before they can flank.

Again, you might want to be tested for some form of mental retardation.
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>>144034289
>The top three arms of the Cross stand for the northern, western, and eastern tribes of the ancient Empire, and the bottom refers to the Dwarfs, the Empire's oldest and staunchest allies.

I am satisfied.
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https://youtu.be/wTh_I8j4mfA?t=324

Chaos indisputably has the best OST.
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>>144034469
You might enjoy Gotrek and Felix. It's a series of episodic adventure stories.
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>>144033871
I did do this and it does work great when the enemy has no ranged units. Unfortunately the AI loves ranged units so this is almost never the case.

I either have to wait for my quarrelers to deal with their ranged units which might take awhile OR let my slayers get shredded apart by arrows.
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>Play Vampire Counts faction as a Von Cartsein in Sylvania
>Can't hire crossbowmen
>Can't hire archers
>Can't hire spearmen

What is this bullshit?
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>>144033895
>tfw franz is wounded
>tfw you failed to protect that smile
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>>144034740
>Can't hire crossbowmen
>Can't hire archers

Welcome to Warhammer and the Vampire Counts.
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>>144034216
Goblin wolf riders are better than they look
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How do you play VC since they're so reliant on magic and magic is dogshit?
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I fucking love vamps, even when you lose a load of units it's usually the trash ones and you can instantly revive them after battle
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>>144034740
skeletons don't have eyes and can't use ranged weapons, they just swing wildly

skeletons don't have muscles and can't brace themselves for a cavalry charge
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>>144034740

t. radious
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>>144034740

>no spearmen

????
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>>144034656
I'll take a look thanks. Just don't want to waste time sorting through the bullshit to find something decent
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>>144033349
>Medieval 3
I'd prefer Empire 2 in the 19th century or Renaissance first.
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>build walls as vamp
>they box me in whilst the enemy shoots arrows in
lel
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>>144034424
I forget the name, but the first ability Light wizards get is a beast. Real short range, and crap against large groups, but anything it hits dies.

>fighting VC
>single handedly wipes Vargheists flanking my artillery
>Spams that spell into large blobs of zombies and skeletons
>Ends battle with 200+ kills
>mfw
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>>144018957
How do you do that?
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>>144035062
I actually kind of liked Radious for Attila, it made some of the minor factions more fun and I never saw the AI use very many of the custom units

I was hoping for Warhammer he would respect the faction diversity now that it's far more important, but the first fucking unit I saw was Black Orc Archers
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so in literally every battle as dwarves I just leave the archers and go for their melee dudes

is this a good tactic?

should I have my missile units in centre and flank with melee or the other way round?
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>>144034872
>>144034978
wtf are you talking about? You can play human units as VCs, you have access to dogs of war just like any other armies and you can use some of the empire units as a Von Cartsein, they're Silvanian Levies.

Did they completely destroy the Vampire Counts or you're all just newfags?
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>>144031017
Does Rome 2 have any crazy faction gimmicks like the all vanguard army in attila?
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GOTREK & FELX DLC WHEN
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>>144035338
skeletons don't have eyes and can't use ranged weapons, they just swing wildly

skeletons don't have muscles and can't brace themselves for a cavalry charge

all the units they have are dead in this
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>>144035359
I'd prefer them as followers in some kind of Warhammer RPG.
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>>144031636
Just hit whatever's near until you get a waagh

Greenskins are most fun if you expand like mad with no rhyme reason or public order
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>>144033487
All signs point towards it, AoC already had a medieval feel to it.
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>>144035202
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THE STORM OF CHAOS GATHERS
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Got all of Sylvania as vamps

What should I do next? Any more provinces are gonna be super hard to keep because they have low corruption
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>>144035467
Why do you keep going on with that completely irrelevant rambling?
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I thought I would hate not having ranged as VC but their flying units are so good pretty soon your enemy doesn't have ranged either. Just throw bats at anything fast or shooty.

I can't be the only one that never leaves without some bats even in late game.
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>>144035797
it's why they don't have any of the units you asked for apart from the completely obvious balance reasons dumbass
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>>144034341
It's to warn the population that shit hit the fan.
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good army comp for VC? currently running some grave guards, 3 horses and my starting varghulf

economy is fucking UP I can do everything after kekking the border princes
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What conditions have to be met for confederation to show up as a diplomatic option?

I'm playing dwarves and my ally just took Mount Gunbad, which i was planning on making into my siege engine capital since they get huge bonuses in that area. But under diplomacy I have no option to even offer to confederate. Help?
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>>144035923
I'm asking for units that are in the fucking tabletop game and aren't a balance problem at all. Dumbass.
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>>144033487
why wouldnt they
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>>144032045
The Arabs Obviously. :S
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>>144036131
Oh cool. So if you're going to get the full VC tabletop roster, when do I get my full Empire, Orc, Lizardman, Brettonian, Skaven, and Chaos rosters?
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>>144034341
>What the hell are the balloons on empire buildings for?
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Building_blog

4chan's being dumb and not letting me link the image
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>>144032742
>15 armor

WAOH, these sick buffs
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What happens if you apply a "Unbreakable" buff to a VC unit? Will they be unable to crumble?
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Are these vikings fucking serious?
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>>144036131
>aren't a balance problem at all

lmao
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>>144036123
Got an alliance with them?

I always start with non-aggression pact. Followed by military access. If they don't accept, butter them up with some gold. Usually then they come to me looking for a trade deal. Kill a few orcs, and then make an alliance. Doesn't matter which. Confederation should show up by then.

And even then it's still hard to do it unless you're really strong, they are under attack, or both.
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>>144036197
They're already in the fucking game you mongoloid.
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>>144034469
Gortek and Felix is good, anything Dan Abnett is generally okay, Vamp trilogy is good (starts with Inheritance) and the two Ambassador novels are decent

The black company ripoff is supposed to be okay but I haven't read it yet
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>>144036250

Next turn, I guess they are.
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Can any lorefags tell me what trueborn the von carsteins trace back to?
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>>144036336
Yeah, I have them in military alliance
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>>144036339
>WHY AREN'T THESE UNITS IN THE GAME???
>because of reasons
>BUT THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE GAME!!!
I don't understand.
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>>144036131
>I'm asking for units that are in the fucking tabletop game and aren't a balance problem at all. Dumbass.
Dogs of War haven't been in tabletop for fucking years

And vamps do have spearmen you tit
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>>144034341
>balloon
look like cages for messenger pigeons
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>>144036467

So it begins, the great shitstorm of our time.
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>>144036557
Did you already join another in confederation?
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>>144034216
How did you not get completely carved up by the Big Uns?
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>>144036754
No, I didn't do any confederation, it's only like turn 12
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I really want to get this province cleared of all chaos corruption.
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>>144036541
>Can any lorefags tell me what trueborn the von carsteins trace back to?
Vlad doesn't have an actual solid origin before becoming count but he's basically something to do with Neferata, in end times he was her ex-husband
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Is it just me or does artillery units slow ur campaign movement down by truckloads?
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>>144036235
>haha adding 50% armour on multiple groups of spearmen is garbage
o-ok
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>>144036573
They're in the game but not recruitable as VCs when they should be. You know, when you're that dense, there's a point when you should just give up understanding stuff.

>>144036583
I was obviously talking about spearMEN and they're not dog of war anyway, they're basic units when you pick a Von Carstein. Unless they also changed that. Which wouldn't surprise considering how retarded GW is.
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I just got shat on in my chaos hard campaign, the AI build a good number of walls in even minor settlements and fucking Kislev was on my ass 24/7.

Is it a better idea to focus on a very strong Archaon army and not use monsters so you can quickly auto resolve and waltz over everything?
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>>144036414
Vampire sounds good and more in line with this game but would I be wrong passing up gortek and Felix for it?
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>>144036984
>They're in the game but not recruitable as VCs when they should be
G A M E

B A L A N C E
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>>144036339
Empire is missing Knightly Orders, Inner Circle Knights, the Hurricanum, the War Altar, and Flagellants.
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>>144036740
It's always Skaeling isn't it? They always rape everything in north and then storm the south with their rape train.
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>>144036831
Well that is odd, haven't run into that before. Try giving it a couple turns and see if it pops up. Or maybe check your faction stat page. Could be some pre-existing effect is preventing confederation.
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When you play Chaos or Vampire Counts do razed settlements still contribute corruption or not?

What settlements should I be razing as each faction? Should I burn the Zhufbar settlements to the south as VC to the ground or sack them and move on?

Should I be razing the Norsca settlements or sacking them? Or Sacking, then razing? Should I bother awakening tribes?

AND how do you all deal with the 20 stacks turn 5 and the cunts that refuse to leave their +20 garrisoned cities?

Thanks for any help.
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>>144036913
Not gonna happen thanks to the surrounding ruins.
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>>144036975
It's your first TW game, huh?
Of course they do.
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POST TRADING CARD REWARDS PLEASE
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>>144035736
what the fug i didnt know you could do that
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>>144036123

>HOLY SHIT MAN, BLESS THIS RAVAGED BODY

>>144036110

Go download the blood knights mod, and then build nothing but blood knights and varghulfs

>>144037028

Don't fuck around with any major powers off the bat, instead, avoid monsters, rush chosen, and beat up on the tribes until your army is swole.
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How do I manage the tribes in the north as Archaon

They always just go to war with each other instead of joining me to rape Kislev. Do I just want 2 factions or just 1 giant?
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>>144035790
Bide time, build up, use agents to spread corruption.

Secure dwarfs as allowable raze them if they refuse so that you can secure your backside
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>>144037175
Varg were fuccbois, I needed to remove Varg.
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>>144037135
My problem are bjorlings. Fuckers showed up out of nowhere and trashed my holds just as I finally managed building them up.

Then the Top Knotz come back and reclaim the ruins.
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>>144037048
G&F are nice and fun adventure novels, so if you just want people killing shit read them, they travel all over the setting but they're never really big on the lore.

If you want to read up on lore or something at least vaguely similar to what you actually see in the game the vamp stuff is better

There's downloads of both here http://www.mediafire.com/folder/2qbp22o8ch8qc/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battles#l8h0ywkjs3e4d
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>>144037092
Try to keep up with the conversation please

>>144037059
Oh yeah I'm sure giving VCs some low tier low leadership human infantry units is totally going to break the balance of the game. That's totally why they can't be hired. Not lazyness or anything.It's not like you can just tweak their stats amirite
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>>144036984
VCs haven't had living units in their army book for at least a full edition. Bloodlines are out as well, outside of the Strogoi Ghoul King. You're retarded if you think CA was going to decide army rosters based on works that are a decade out of date.
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Why is warhammer called like that?

I think I heard it refers to Karl Franz' hammer but that seems like a huge stretch
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>>144036969
I see. Thanks senpai
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This is a sad turn of events.
We Takeda do not like failure.
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>>144037632
Sigmar's hammer

He used it to unite the tribes and form the basis of the empire (guess who read a lot of conan)

So now it's the symbol of the empire n'shit
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Fight or run like a bitch?

He's level 16 and has a helm of discord that can completely shut down my marauders for half a minute.
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Arabs think they can revolt against the almighty Parthia!
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>Kholek gets dumpstered
>Have to start from scratch at horde level 1

oh.
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>tfw you successfully cause Grimgor's army to break with a gunline as dwarf with a bunch of artillery, thunderers, quarellers, and longbeards holding the line.
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>>144036790

Hammer & anvil my friend the real reason is the little waaagh debuff speel to attack and weapon damage

Anyway that's it for today, after 39 turns as goblins we've pretty much eliminated all dwarf presence in the badlands and have just 2 more greenskin tribes to take care of.

Anyway this is
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>>144037631
>You're retarded if you think CA was going to decide army rosters based on works that are a decade out of date.
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>>144037164

Your process with Norsca settlements should be sack->awaken->declare war immediately->subjugate. Once they're subjugated, they act as vassals and can't form their own foreign policy and have to pay you tribute every turn.

I didn't find out about the possibility to subjugate Norscans until 120 turns into my campaign when I went back north to recouperate.
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How should I upgrade my Manfred?

Magic? Leadership aura? Melee?
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>>144037868
How are you the bird.
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>>144038052
What difficulty?
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>>144038158

Hard campaign hard battles
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how autistic is it that i can spend several minutes staring at the siege screen in shogun 2.
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>>144033653

IT'S ANOTHER CANNAE
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>>144038114
Spirit leech tree up to fate of the brujah and then melee is the usual build

That means you can nuke the enemy from afar and then murder them up close, leadership isn't as big for vamps since your units don't route but it still helps delay them from crumbling
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>>144023991
Empire: Kurt Helborg for more classic empire captain, Mathias Thulmann for a witch hunter Lord or Volkmar for warrior priest lord kind off
Dwarves: Josef Bugman for a more ranged damage approach, Grombrindal
Chaos: Valkia (Khorne represent), Festus (Nurgle represent), Egrimm von Horstmann (Tzeentch represent), Be'lakor, Wulfrik the Wanderer
Vampire Cunts: Krell, Zacharias, and I know it's very dubious but Vlad and Isabella would rock
Greenskins: Grom the Paunch or Skarsnik and Gobbla, Gorbad Ironclaw

Also I would love to see for some eventual factions Alarielle, Alith Anar and Korhil foe HE (to avoid getting Tyrion and Teclis), Malekith, Morathi and motherfucking Lokhir Fellheart (DE), Areil and Orion (WE), Thanquol (Skaven, I don't really know that many more) Skrag the Slaughterer and Greasus Goldtooth (would be amazing to see them fight, Ogres) and obviously Lord Kroak and Kroq-gar (Lizardmen),.
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>>144037164
>When you play Chaos
Yes, razing also boosts your horde surplus
>or Vampire Counts
nope
>What settlements should I be razing as each faction?
Everything except possibly Norsca if you awaken/subjugate when Chaos, anything you can't take when VC
>cunts that refuse to leave their +20 garrisoned cities?
Siege/corrupt them to death or overrun them with a billion zambies as VC
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>>144038130
Lord of change mod from steam workshop, you can recruit him like any lord. Though I waited 'til I beat Sarthorael and only got one to roleplay making him my bitch.
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>>144038130
there is mod to recruit lord of change
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>>144038114
Manny can do most anything. I normally sink enough points in necromancy for the buff spells and heal aura, then focus on his combat tree. He can become a beefy caster though.
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>>144038365
Weeb level of autism
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>>144038365
>how autistic
ten outta teeen
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>>144036984
I think you may be an actual retarded person.
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>>144037631
I was going to remind you that the Bretonian army book is 13 years old but I guess anon there already did:
>>144038084
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>>144038365
isnt focusing on unimportant details for long periods of time the definition of autism?
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>>144037260
Here's all the ones I got anon.
http://imgur.com/a/AX96f
The Emoticons are just a gold sword, ball and chain, and skull and crossbones.
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>>144038672
No, it isn't, otherwise browsing 4chan would be autism.
Oh, wait.
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>>144038397
>Google Lokhir Fellheart

This dude looks fucking rad.
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so is empire or dwarves the strongest?

are greenskins or chaos the weakest?
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I've learnt a few things from the goblin campaign:

-Goblins actually mess up orc boyz in melee but lose brutally to dwarf warriors while orc boyz win in a perfect situation if they get the charge off

-Goblin archers are useful only to chase away mounter archers

-Big uns are actually kinda shit against goblins, probably because they have so few models to damage so many models, I was able to slip in trolls (who are countered by big uns) with my goblins and they took very few hits

-Goblins have 50% missile block from the front, making them take very little damage from quarrelers, they get fucked from the right and back though in mere seconds

-Goblins are basically worthless for killing heroes, they just don't do damage (unless it's a caster), if you really have to use archers and if you're desperate your great shaman, you HAVE to use your goblin big boss as a fighter as soon as you get it after the first quest battle, it's the only way to snipe heroes (he has duelist), he's still a goblin and dies like shit so use other gobboz to tarpit

-Goblin wolf riders are actually fucking awesome

Spider riders have actually quite decent armor so they can take some hits while the hammer and anvil from ranged units behind them, use them on elite units for the poison.

I have yet to use their chariot units but I think I'll make a beeline for giants
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>>144038624
Yeah but Bretonnia haven't had a new edition changing shit since

This guy is asking for a random edition of vamp counts to be the basis (we're going back at least a few for his dogs of war)
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>>144038934
Oops, forgot pic.
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Is there a way to order a unit to attack whatever is around them until there's nothing left? Seeing a unit chilling in the middle of a battle because the ennemy unit they were fighting routed and noone attacked them even though there's an ennemy unit right in front of them.

It's really silly.
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>>144038624

That book is also the latest one.
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Spartans hurt. :>
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are there any good mods that improve gameplay at all? Or is it just a mess of NO FRILLY HATS and Black Orc Arrer boyz
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>>144038624
The Bretonnian book was old, but due to the way GW works, it wasn't obsolete unless a new one was printed and still perfectly legal. This isn't a hard concept, anon.
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>>144038974
Compared 1 to 1 VC have the weakest units, which they make up for by having the easiest time building fat stacks.
Probably gonna have to go with Emp for strongest since Hippogryphs and WH are just so broken even without shit like steam tanks. Weakest is tough since it depends on how you mean it.
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>>144039261
>Charging cavalry into pikemen
>Attacking a phalanx head on
No shit.
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>>144039145

CTRL+G

Right click enemy with your group selected

There, the game is playing itself just like you wanted.
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So what does Anthonius think of total warhammer?
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>>144039253
It's also completely unplayable because it's based on a game system that isn't even played so your point is moot.
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>>144039412
Sorta. Once the initial target is gone the unit will just stand there waiting for orders unless it's attacked.
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Can I play on legendary, set the battle difficulty to normal, and still get the Sigmar Reborn achievement?

Nothing about end game units losing to zombies 1v1 is fun.
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>>144039401
>not, charging phalanxes with heavy cavalry
>not pushing them back with the weight of your unit
>not slaughtering them without losing anyone

do you even medieval 2
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>>144039341
Better Camera, no Great Power affecting Diplomacy, blah blah blah.
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>>144039397
i was on the fence about where vc stands, but their grave guards are really quite powerful in 1v1 battles, usually out-performing more expensive infantry. you're right though, they don't have too many powerful groups.

i mean mostly for 1v1s. though campaign scenarios always add an interesting dynamic. campaign wise i find orcs and chaos as my favourites
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>>144039508

It's the latest book to base the faction on.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>144039412
Nope, won't change a thing. They'll also stand idle afterward even if there's an ennemy unit near them.

Just fyi the option to automatically attack ennemy units around is a basic feature of any RTS
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>>144039736

That's such a shame, guess you'll have to play those RTS then.
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>>144039624
>Using subpar tactics because they worked in a previous game instead of adapting and using the optimal strategy to not lead your men into needless massacres
Do you even strategos.
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Wow, you guys weren't kidding about Greatswords.

War is hell.
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>>144039825
I'm sorry anon, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings by asking if there was such an option in your game. I hope you'll find the strength to forgive me and stop being a humongous faggot.
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Anyone got that rolling image for Total Warhammer? Can't decide on who to play next.

Skaven when?
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>game that should definitely have blood and gore, does not even get blood and gore day0 DLC
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>>144039595
Anybody?

I'd much rather fight battles than auto resolve them
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>>144039735
Oh yeah, I knew I was forgetting something.
>>144038397
Settra and Khalida.
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>defeat 2 stacks of greenskin
>see this at the beginning of next turn
O-oh. H-hey there, whatcha doing e-ehe
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>>144039939
>not killing everyone and letting God recognize his own
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>>144039341
>NO FRILLY HATS mod
Is that really a thing?
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>>144040238
Yup
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>>144040238
Yes.

Plebs/normies.
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>>144039663
Yeah, VC has some really strong lords and a couple solid units like GG then tons of chaff and niche units which makes them hard to place. Greenskins have a lot of garbage units on the low end but their high end units like BOs and DDs are really excellent. Chaos actually has relatively few completely trash units so I don't think they deserve a spot at the bottom, it's just that in the campaign they've got some serious weaknesses due to cost inefficiency and trash can tier recovery.
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>>144040141

No idea
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This game really needs blood fast.
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>>144040373
gee I wonder who could be behind this post
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>>144040290
>>144040304
I am slightly miffed.
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>>144039508
By that logic why play this game at all?
TOTAL WAR: AGE OF SIGMAR WHEN
>>
>$7,5
It begins.
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>>144040026

Don't worry I forgive you, I'll send you some play doh for christmas, oh wait I forgot, you actually have to use your hands to play with it.

I'll gift you a subscription to a twitch streamer instead ok? So you can watch the games just the way you like it.
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>>144040025

>demigryphs
>21 kills between them
>steam tank
>ded
The fuck were you doing
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>>144040025

How the ever loving shit.
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>>144039683
yes and it's unplayable against the newest iteration of the army books that the armies in the game are based off. Yet ca is going to add Bretonnia using the book. Which shows nobody really gives a fuck about which edition armies come from.

Lore wise some vampires are at the head of regions populated by humans and humans are part of their armies, it's been in the army book for years and there's no real reason to not include them except lazyness.

>>144040503
is it really that hard to follow a conversation on 4chan?
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>>144040373
Yeah it's a little jarring swapping between this game and Doom. I just want to gib peasants with cannonfire.
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>>144040695

It's the latest edition for bretonnia, you're going in circles.
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>>144038052
That is really fast, especially with shitty goblins.
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>>144032742
Hopefully they will patch the spells, making them high cool down maybe but more powerful
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>>144040590
>it's a "I'm an hardcore strategist TW player" episode
>He thinks it requires more skill to play a TW than an rts which have said option, like starcraft or war3.

There's nothing cuter than a casual pointing fingers.
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>>144040590
>complaining about people wanting to watch the battle in a game where there are literally 'slow-motion' and 'cinematic camera' features
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>>144032632
What's wrong with it?
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>>144032742

Fate of Bjuna says hi, Wind of Death says hi
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>>144040306
black orcs are really the saving grace for greenskins in my opinion. their monsters can be pretty fun if you manage to keep them alive longer than the enemys winds of magic.

1v1 wise chaos blows ass for me, since a lot of their troops simply aren't cost efficient. chosen are strong, but they don't warrant the price. chaos warriors really feel mediocre at best, and the chaos knights are also crazy expensive when you compare it to the empires demigryph knights.

i like chaos in the campaign because although the regeneration is quite slow, you can simply merge units together and hire more as you go, and you can pretty much recuperate anywhere as long as you sacrifice the 25% movement.

chaos knights/dragon ogres/giants are the only non-1-turn-recruits i think. and cost efficiency really isn't an obstacle when you're getting 10-50k + per settlement sack
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my uncle is CA and he confirms that next DLC will include

beastmen
bretonnia
wood elves
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Guys why are Chaos Knights with lances so weak, their charges should wreck shit. Cav in general feels underwhelming but I guess it is due to almost every unit being Shock Cav and these shits didn't work in Rome 2 either.
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>>144040643
It was a siege you memelord. My steam tanks shot themselves dry and became melee units. I held my Demigryphs in reserve until we actually breached their walls, and by that time everything was ded.
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I DO NOT CONSENT
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>>144041229
>Cav in general feels underwhelming
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>>144041252
SUMMON THE ELECTED CUNTS
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>>144041092
>wind of death
wew lad

also, see >>144033324
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Is there no download link in the OP thread for Yarkis Reduced AI Cheating mod, or do I need to sign in to see it?
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>>144041223
I am ok with this.
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>>144041359
THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
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>>144041183
I was surprised to find in my VH Chaos campaign that my GS Warriors didn't perform much worse than my GS Chosen. A few less kills and a couple more casualties but nothing big. I was able to keep a couple units of warriors for the whole game even with unit merging.
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>>144041223
>beastmen
If your uncle is lying I will find you.
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>tfw you want a crazy massive artillery and gun based army for your Dorfs but nothing beats Longbeards and Quarallers.
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>>144041229

Cavalry just requires more micro focus than other units, very easy to get huge kills with almost any decent cav unit if you just keep cycle charging their rear.
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>>144038365
That's what we all do, deciding what the next move should be, whether to take the attack or not
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>>144041315
Come on, man, their wealth is meagre. 160 gold crowns is a king's ransom to them.
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>>144041432
no see he explained that it was the best move because wood elves and beastmen both have habitations in the forests of the empire and bretonnia, that means they can interact well with all existing factions and especially with the newly playable bretonnia
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>>144041223
WE and frogs seem likely as one already has presence and the other has room, I feel like Skaven are more likely than Beastmen as much as I want them.
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>>144034910
Yes they are good at hunting down routing units and chargin tier 1 ranged units (Quarellers do not apply)

So good
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>>144040819
You're the one going circles. Let me explain it to you in a way you can process:
>if CA uses army roster from 8th edition only then bretonnia no can exists
>if CA add bretonnia then CA have to use 6th edition army roster
>therefore this means they no stick to 8th edition of warhammah
>which means there's no reason why we can't have 6th VC stuff like blood dragons, necrarchs and Sylvanian levies. Especially since they're still in the lore.
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>>144041563
>t. sent :^)
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Time to die Roman Scum
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why the fuck is the AI so bad in this game.

I have Top Knots on their heels and I'm on the verge of taking all of the badlands and instead of consolidating and defending their shit they just try and run round and take undefended settlements with single stacks.
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>>144041715
Why would they try to defend against someone they can't defeat?
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>>144039341
>no frilly hats
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>>144041715
name literally one strategy game with good ai
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>>144038976
>Goblin wolf riders are actually fucking awesome

And there were bitches threads ago saying goblin cav are all trash
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>>144041839
Chess
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>>144041673
Not him, but anon.
They aren't sticking to 8e only, they are using latest army books. That sadly means that the brets are based on an outdated army book.
Again: latest army book.
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>>144041898
cheeky cunt
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Scattered starting positions mod when
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>>144041690
Where are the orcs lad
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>>144041839
Armies of Exigo. Fucking brutal.
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>>144037868
Glorious. My line broke 3 times and 3 times they rallied and reformed the shield wall. The demon made great use of fireballs and actually kicks ass in combat even at low levels. Very fragile though.

The survivors will be merged and renamed, and forever have a place of honor in this army.
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>>144037868
What does the bird's skill tree look like?
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>>144041350
>>144041515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAQHQpR8v4w

Look at that first battle. Legendary difficulty, rearchange into crossbows. 6 kills. I know it wasn't a good unit but that is complete shit.
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>>144036573
>>144035923
You guys are so fucking retarded, he is talking about Human Sylvanian Levy State Troops, that's it. Now shut the fuck up already.
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>>144041819
I've read some faggots complaining about how "immersion breaking" the "retarded mushroom hats" are. They're also "unrealistic".

Now I want hats on every unit in the game.
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>>144038976
I actually use the chariots quite a lot in my regular Greenskin campaign, they are great for disrupting Quarrelers and rear charging Dwarf melee infantry.

They even kill of artillery crews rather fast.

But seeing as you already have that role fulfilled with Wolf Riders and can manage their low impact and shit morale, I guess you should go for giants instead
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>>144042121
These ""people"" are a walking argument for genocide and eugenics
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>>144041921
Thank you for telling me what's in the game Captain Obvious. The argument is why there should/shouldn't be more than what is in the lastest edition.
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>>144042121
>They're also "unrealistic".
I fucking mad.
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>>144042254
>The argument is why there should/shouldn't be more than what is in the lastest edition.
You're saying they should use an outdated army book for an army that has a current army book just because one faction's army book is old as fuck.
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>>144042094
That is the lowest tier of cav for Bretonnia. Had it been 1 tier higher it would have raped him
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>>144042249
>said the "" "" memer
>>
SUMMON
>>
How important is it in an Empire campaign to get good relations with all the surrounding human provinces? There are a few faggys who won't accept a non aggression pact and their opinion of me is deteriorating.
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>>144042393
THE
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>>144042395
M U R D E R T H E M
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>>144042323
Man, get that fantasy bullshit out of my sight.
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>>144042395
1: get strong
2: SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
3: confederacy
4: GOTT ERHALTE FRANZ DEN KAISER
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>>144040025
did you just stand in front of towers most of the time? vamps dont have ranged on walls, how the fuck you lose so much
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>>144042475
ELECTOR
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>>144038919
Thanks for posting, these arent at all what I wanted.
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>>144042609

ORCS
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>>144042582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zk6eXvCiuo
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>>144042609
KANGZ
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>>144042362
I'm saying outdated doesn't mean shit because it's not a fucking adaptation of the tabletop game which is why it does use an outdated army based on rules that don't even exis anymore and mix it with new armies based on other rules so there's really no reason to not have some of the old units for the other armies too.

It's not that fucking complicated.
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>>144042595
I used Greatswords to clear the walls while I charged all my other trash infantry through the gate. Used my tenks and cennens to kill the towers, but the Vamps were manning all of them so it took ages.

It was literally just meatgrinding. No tactics involved at all. Just my infantry fighting their infantry in a tiny corridor.

If I had to do it again I'd blow holes in the walls and try and flank but it probably wouldn't help, just turn 1 corridor fight into 3 corridor fights.
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>>144042395

Get NAPS with everyone and a defensive alliance with Nordland for a quest

Then turtle up and prepare for the end times, where everyone will suck your dick
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>>144041983
No money to kill orcs. :/
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>with the success of TW:WH, other companies with popular Warhammer mods will make official adaptations
>Mount & Blade: Warhammer coming soon
>Crusader Kings: Warhammer coming soon
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>>144042780
>It's not that fucking complicated.
Yet you don't seem to understand that CA uses the latest stuff.
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>>144042749
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>>144042706
are there any images of orcs with frilly hats
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>>144042780
It's not so much they are using outdated books so much as they only use the latest. Going back to editions before the latest means they could bring in something that is no longer lore friendly or conflicts with existing game stats.
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> "just send thunders/ranged around them"

nigger my stunties cant get around an entire ork army before they send mounted archers or spears around and block them

my only explanation for dorfs making it past the first province on very hard is RNG made all the orks kill eachother until they had 2 full armies of iron breakers instead of 1-2 waaghs and 2+ allied ork armies marching in and stomping all their shit to the ground

i spent almost all of my money on military instead of infrastructure this time and still didn't have enough to hold the almost 5 thousand fuckers that rolled in at turn 25
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Why is it so hard to find a torrent for warhammer?

I dont normally pirate, but I've bought like 3 full priced games in May, and I just cant justify buying any more games for a few months, but I really want to give total warhammer a shot.
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>>144042919
I think you're stuck in a loop of retardation, i'll leave you be. Try not to overheat or something.
>>
>>144017475
any pro tips for VC on VH/legendary?
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>>144017475
what are better for chaos, armored trolls or dragon ogres? or a chaos giant? i've used dragon ogres before and they tear shit up, but i haven't used chaos giants or trolls.

chaos is bae desu senpai
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>>144042094

That almost the shittiest cav in the entire game, try it with actual shock cav
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>>144042992
It's Denuvo. Good luck finding anything for at least a month.
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>>144042992
>Why is it so hard to find a torrent for warhammer?
Denuvo.
>>
>>144041236
>I held my Demigryphs in reserve until we actually breached their walls, and by that time everything was ded

They were dead all along
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>>144043026
Play them like normal

VC have the easiest campaign by far
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What are the odds Valten makes it in at some point?
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>>144043052
giants are better in multiplayer imo
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>>144043058
It took my Chaos Knights absolute ages to deal with the artillery crews in the Chaos quests. If cav can't kill of artillery crews fast then I don't know what their purpose is.
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>>144043134
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>>144042992
what the fuck else came out this month that was worth getting?
>>
>>144043052
They all fill different roles. Trolls are good for flanking and fucking up armored, dragon ogres do well as a front line troop. Giants can fuck up generals/monsters like its nothing.
>>
>>144041810
I have a single 20 stack of dwarves who has taken 2 of their provinces.

they have made a 20 stack to take a single settlement in badlands which then led to a failed Waaaagh.

now they've made a 16 stack to play chicken round the underway and try and take a random settlement.

if they could make 2 decent sized stacks to fuck around and not accomplish anything they could quite easily win with some defending.

they keep on trying to take my settlements instead of defending province capitals and it's dumb as shit.
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>>144042043
looks like the same bottom trees, and a Lore of Metal up top. of tzeentch gives 15 magic resistance, not sure what daemonic actually does. I'll find out at level 12.
>>
Chaos dwarfs when
>>
>>144042965
No it doesn't because the game stats and the tabletop stats aren't the same and I'm starting the believe you've never played tabletop and don't understand the principle of editions. Let's not discuss this further.
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VC healing abilities are insanely powerful.
>>
SUMMON
>>
>>144043379
Literally never. They are the most unpopular faction by far.
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>>144040471
Maybe someone who wants to indulge in an excessively big blood orgy?
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>>144043353
>metal

Wow nope fuck that I'll pass worst fucking tree.

>inb4 HURR ITS ABOUT BUFFS DEBUFFS

Right and the only good metal debuff is like the penultimate skill and I don't want to waste like 15 levels in fucking metal for 1 good passive and shit everything else.

Thanks though.
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I AM PRINCE

AND EMPEROR
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10365531
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>>144043273
I bought 2 copies of overwatch, stellaris, and preordered legion for my girlfriends birthday.
>>
>>144043547
Did you buy anything for your wife's son?
>>
alright so Ive been reading in a few places that shields only block ranged damage and don't affect melee, is this actually true? is there proof of this somewhere lads?
>>
>Play Greenskins
>Defend Boar Boyz as decent units
>Finish Campaign and start as Empire

So this is the power of Shock Cavalry....
>>
>>144043397

>those unit sizes

fuck off m8
>>
>>144043547
>buying overwatch on release
>unironically giving money to the swede
>>
>>144025903
Warhammer Fantasy is where GW shined with models. They have some fantastic work which is such a shame theyve shat all over it and really kicked the overdesigning up to 11. The models they shit out now are so terrible, Chaos especially. Everything else is just 40k.

Im looking at you Ironjaws/Stormcast
>>
>>144043547
>2 copies of overhyped
>wow

lmao
>>
>>144043484
>Wow nope fuck that I'll pass worst fucking tree.
>metal
>bad
Pfffffffffffffffffffffft
>>
>>144042961
That's real neat 10/10
>>
>Played 4v4 Empire vs. Chaos siege
>Artillery blasts the fuck out of Chaos cavalry and siege towers, but there is just too many.
>Eventually they make it to the wall, and start pouring on.
>This is when heroes are made
>As other infantry start to fall, my swordsmen hold the line.
>As one group of marauders fall, another pops up to take their place, but they endure
>The receive support from allied halberds and crossbows on the ground.
>Gates are breached, Chaos pours in.
>Counter charge
>Trolls and spawn push through with sheer size.
>Every inch is paid in blood
>My knights and lords are pushed to the cap point, fighting a bloody battle as artillery is abandoned, its crew slaughtered.
>Even as Chaos surrounds them, I notice I have a stray unit away from the center of the city
>My swordsmen are still on the walls, surrounded by forsaken and Chosen.
>They endure until my lord falls and the army starts to route.
>Never have I had that much fun in losing a game.

But seriously how did they do that? I still don't know how they manage to hold their own when literally everything else around them died.
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>>144043743

>whoa bro 15 armor thats like....game ending!!!
>>
>>144043547
>buying 2 copies of overwatch, stellaris, and legion
>won't buy Warhammer

So not only are you a fucking faggot with shit taste, but you preordered a game months in advance instead of buying TW now, and buying Legion at launch.

End ur life kiddo xD
>>
>>144043236

They probably just had issues pathing around the artillery and didn't charge into the actual crew.
>>
>>144043658
Quick guide to Orcs: The only good units are Grimgor, the spider and the giant plus the Doom Diver.
Everything else is pretty shit, especially compared against the other factions. The Orcs work in numbers but this doesn't translate all too well into TW unless you want to hurl 2 stacks around all the time.
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>>144043273
Doom
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>>144043916
The Primarch of the Angry Marines.
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I think I need to embed Heroes more often in my armies, the Chaos Exalted are actually killing as much as a regular unit and you can use them to hold down enemy generals.
Or kill their heroes.
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>>144043838
I just beat a Long Campaign and used nothing but Black Orcs, a few Big'uns, Spiders, and Giants.

Black Orcs are decent but the Spiders/Giants and The One True Git were the MVPs.
>>
Are Orcs the niggers of fantasy worlds ?

All that deformed english really rings a bell.
>>
>>144043830
Not my copy of legion senpai, I dont play Warcraft. Girlfriend does, and she likes it a lot, so whatever.


I have like 15 friends on battlenet who play overwatch, so im always in a full group. its pretty fun when you have 6 people who know what they're doing at all times.

but it is what it is. Sorry for triggering you, kiddo.
>>
new thread

>>144044119
>>144044119
>>144044119
>>144044119
>>
>>144044147
They're the English of warhammer
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>>144044147
They are British football hooligans you twat
>>
>>144043547
stellaris was literally free after 10 minutes though
>>
80 hours in and i've only Vampires left to play.

When can we expect the DLC to start rolling in?
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>>144043609

Underrated post
>>
Well at last got long victory on empire

nice campaign, I really liked it, now im gonna wait for bretonnia to come out before doing another campaign
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