/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #275

Still better than nothing
(licks OP-picture)

>>144004258
>June 3rd - 4th: Angela, Nerua, Kiki, Dynames, Ravian, Baltheon, Duran

>June 10th - 11th: Elaine, Z001 Veronica, Black Tortoise, Mariel, Vitos, Valkyrja Beth, MX83 Askeladd

no draw rotations or reminders to trigger autist #2

Doing the 10 Story matches daily... I dread those 10 games every day... Oh wait, no! I'll tell you exactly how it goes... So, there's no way I'm playing those dailies without watching something like a Youtube video on the side. My mind's not counting matches. I start doing the Story games... I've been doing them for a while and I start wondering... Maybe I finished the daily already and am doing extra games. For sure, this is the 11th game. So I quit back to main menu and check the achievements page...

Enter the Story/Challenge/Hell Mode 10 time(s) ------ 9/10

Every. Single. Time.

BB, let us queue games. Not just for these dailies but also Swirly and Boss Games.

Milky extracting everyone's stress and tensions after a good match doujin when?

>>144004392
Good.
Kill yourself.
>>144004258
>forgot the reminder to ignore and report shitposting
You fucked up.

>>144004258
Reminder to report reddit copypasta autist and shitposting. We are a pure general.

epic7 when

>>144004549
>>144004521
If you're doing 1-1 for that, and you have a ST giving manager that can get you 20+ past your max ST, use that as a gauge to keep track since you won't regain ST while you're past your max. That way you never overshoot. Usually the best time to do this is when you first open the game, since unless you slept only a few hours and then open the game first thing in the morning, your ST has likely filled up and your managers have probably reset.

>>144004592
I should report them as rule violation?

>>144004679
yes

Found a Meiran in scouts.

Got 2 five stars from draws today.

It's a good day.

Except I only have 200 GP and I grind really, really slow unless I'm willing to give up all my sanity/sleep/blow through all my resources.

Sighs

Great.

Lucy take two, here we go.

>>144004592
>report reddit spam
>get warning
great job, mods

Oh my oh my.
Overall DMG delivery of Baltheon is higher. His speed dif vs striker is higher which make less likely to faill combo with SC(main issues of fails is when striker outspeeds due to random AB start) .
So i have no idea what are you refering for:
-Balth higher DMG delivery
-Balth more DMG/reflex itself
-Balth less chance to faill combo
-Luka more utility

What is not clear here?

"Luka got 15%more crit dmg then balth"- what are trolling why would compare external global buffs?

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>>144004510
Oh boy, posted in dead thread

Anyway, I'm 99% sure BB was just doing a fire-and-forget with the censors so they'll never have to go back to it, because they have a reason to believe not enough people actually care for the lewds

Considering there's hardly any lewd fanarts, maybe they're right

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>>144004807
>he doesn't make 200 gp daily
>>144004886
>jani is the shiposter
Raid when?

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Ardor: Elaine (MSPU/84), Nari, Angela, Lia, Sage, Sharr, Lucius, Roina, Victoria, Jacob, Tyler

Dark: Verister, Patricia, Alkyde, Fontus, Jheet, Lucifer, Zibroi, Vitos, Orses, Lilith, Dale, Asakura, Niarose, Lucid, Ronald, Ravian, Avnore, Malcolm, Lynbell, Gerrard

Light: Isillia, Rasiel, Milky Way, Sky, Black Ivy, Chitose, Hiro, Crocell, Celus, Uriel, Mariel, Muspel, Mikael, Latios

Thunder: Hildegard, Lynia, Cynthia, Veronica, Freyja, Nerua, Guinevere, Griffith, Iggy, Blade, Karpilla, Nikita, Lord Vann, Jury, Lukia, Raklet, Robin, Beta

Whirlwind: Jin, P. Meiran, Kiki, Magnus, Miho, Swimsuit Qiyou, Irre, Silk, Enthia, Beatrice, Neraizel, Irru, Zhen Long, Black Tortoise, Linmay

So I just hit Diamond with my current team. I have lost to every Vonchi team I have come across, and Thunder and Thunder/WW teams have been about 50/50 so far, due to their speed. Is there anything I can do to try and counter these crazy Vonchi teams, or anything I can do to go against the fast frontlines of Thunder and Thunder/WW teams? Should I change my team to be something other than Ardor/Light? I have a pretty good roster to choose from, and am not adverse to doing so, even though I like the potential synergy of my current team. Just trying to make my team/future team more competitive for League to hopefully reach Galaxy one day.

>>144005048
>responding to the shitposter
>only 200

>>144005216
i run a utility vonchi front and the no.1 backlines i hate to go against are ones that stack ca resist. or debuff reflex. the rest are easy pickings. fontus users will go through my line regardless unless i place vonchi in front of them. miho is annoying as well. kiki not so much. just thought i'd pipe in a lil. maybe use miho?

>>144004886
>>144005048
Don't worry, I am already on IRC leaving a message about the spammer. Babydick spammer will get banned soon

My Beatrice carries a +15 SHoT, ww crit, dark crit damage, and thunder receiving pass and is +160, and Luka has a +15 IC, thunder steal, thunder AS and is +160 (and Shura holds SC).

My question is, is there any way for me to increase Beatrice's damage? It seems like my Beatrice is just shooting for peanuts half the time against goalies even with active pass + shoot, and I have to rely on getting a lucky 1v1 after 5 shots (if I'm lucky and co-op doesn't proc and it's not a Lucian) - and the 1v1 crit may not even kill the GK. Is this just a function of the meta, or is there something I'm doing wrong? Most games are me just murdering their midline over and over and over again to get the ball to Beatrice to crit for 500-800.

>>144004807

>bought Legendary pack
>3/4 10+1 draws are fiestas
>Saramir in fourth
>Irru from the box
>Magnus from Mileage

Why do I do this to myself.

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I wrote a poem for you /ssg/


Do you have Samone you love?
Samone you hold true?
Because I Noa have one
I Noa love you.
Why do you seem shocked?
Do I Muspel it out?
I find it shocking myself
Ustiel have some doubt.
You're as angelic as Beth
And as holy as Mikael
I would follow you anywhere
Even to hell
And if things became Iggy
And the world turned against us
If your enemies had found you
Then they had Fontus
But you're Sill a little playful
You can tempt me like Lilith
You make me want to shout
"Here we go!" Like Griffith.
are my Duke
You are my Sage
Veronica's got nothing
Cause' you're center stage
You are my Hiro
The Bell of my ball
With you by my side
I'll survive any fall.
When I Lukat you,
I think I can fly
You make me wanna jump
and touch the Sky.
I feel stronger than Hercules
And wiser than Jin
Even if I'm Lucian
I Beta could win
You can make me feel Lucid
And calm my Vivid Fear
Alkyde do anything
As long as you're here
And I'm not half-done
I still Avnore to say
Even when there's a Raklet
I feel like Milky Way
How can you Beatrice amazing?
I love Evylin you are!
I know I can Lia on you
You are my Sharr
You are Shura unique
An Angela from above
Verister anyone else who can
make me feel this in love?
Malcolm you do this
You're Robin my heart.
But I don't really mind
Oh Will I am tired
And running out of time
EVann I'll have to stop
It's getting harder to rhyme.
Like Celus and his chair.
I will build us a Cassiel
Right here on this scene
And in this grand pAlice
You'll be the Death Queen
And all that oppose us
Will do so in Vayne
We will show them the power
Of our affection chain
So Nari we gonna do it?
I'm waiting anxiously for your voice
Sammy your reply
So that I can know of your Choice
But no matter what you say
Know my feelings Von cheat
I'll love you forever
Even if it'll be incomplete.

>>144005528
Your Beatrice lacks pen power; aside from substats she only has 30% on normal shoot and that's not going to hurt any GK these days.

But yes, Beatrice isn't doing well in this meta. In fact she has been going downhill ever since the first pen nerf. It takes 3 front totems now just for her to actually crit, and even then she won't be doing much damage against the like of Lucian + Nerua/DQ. But that would still be ok, if not for the dreading healing buff. Idk what cracks they were on when they did this, but there you have it. Every match against well-invested Lucian feels like an eternity now. Either you take it like a bitch or you switch striker.

Yeah, I used to run Silla for the penetration but like you said, I can't actually crit without the double crit totem =/

Imo, elemental totems furthering elemental disadvantage was a huge mistake. 25% damage reduction/damage taken is already bad enough - 55% or whatever it works out to be (not actually sure of the math here) is just ridiculous. Having a full health Lucian after 6-7 shots because they got off an active heal is just a terrible gameplay experience.

I hope she gets a buff :/ Would running a 4-man like Beatrice|Luka|Shura/Linmay|Guinevere/Silla help her perform a lot better?

I know that Khirel will definitely help, but he's a loooong way away with my 300 DS. The climb is relatively easy (but awful to watch) up until low Galaxy, where my midline no longer has an advantage because they're sporting triple/quadruple legends mid. Good luck on your climb too, and thanks for answering! :)

Edit: I could also embrace her potential in my team as like, a really shitty Kirin lol. Beatrice, Luka, Rudiel, and Neraizel let's go

Fucking reddit piece of shit
Get out of MY /ssg/, everyone here is MY cuck

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MILKY EE WHEN?

URIEL BUFF WHEN?

UTILITY STRIKERS BUFF WHEN?

BUG FIX WHEN?

REMOVING CO-OP DEFENSE WHEN?

IMPROVING ELEMENTAL DROP RATES WHEN?

VIRGIL NERF WHEN?

Man, this reminds me of before captchas when v got overrun by bots posting hilarious stuff

>>144006257
>the day when /pol/ had legacy timers and no capthca
that was a dark day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKk404l-GGQ

My body is so ready.

So very, very ready.

(I also hope to see Malcolm again, even though he hogged up a good third of the first trailer. I know, I'm utter trash).

Still, very impressed with the trailer quality, very pleasing color pallete, fairly fluid animation. Vonchi is a 10/10 would bang. And Choi looks too pure for this world, a precious cinnabon who must be protected (Even though he's satanic hellspawn who'll come charging through your mid like a fucking monster truck that's been set on fucking fire. Seriously, he's becoming as bad of an offender as pre-nerf Bell.)

Also, I'm already liking the song much more.

Very good trailer quality overall, except...

Serestiabae, and Bellfu.

Really.

Everyone else looks like sleek, modern, and shiny animu style.

Then you got those two, looking as if they popped out of a Shojo anime from the late 1990s/Early 2000s. I think someone went a little off-model there. :P

>>144005528

You might try using a dark pen stone. Shura doesn't give pen either, might want to replace with Silla.

Give the FC to Luka. Contrary to popular belief, Luka can function without an IC. Especially in a line with Beatrice, thanks to Beato's speed buff stacking on top of Luka's.

A Nera/Meiran midlane will pile on even more speed. A Beatrice/Luka front line, buffed by a Meiran pen, should have a speed of roughly 140, on average, or more with stone substats. Beatrice should be hitting something like 250 crit on a normal shoot or 300+ on active, with 200-250% crit damage depending if Meiran got her active off at some point.

BB is getting into habit of nerfing unit lots of people invested in and introduce stronger ones. BB does not want to offer alternatives via recall, and used recall policy as weapon against us.

The recall system is pointless. They can literally decide for themselves who should get recalled. I think the only reason that Robin was recalled was not the fact that he was bad, but that his art was so shitty that users all complained about how ugly he is.

I rather they remove the system entirely. Too many people jumping on current meta because they have the recall system to fall back on. It's what made the old recall with shoshos so awful. The new one helped prevent too much abuse but then Robin got nerfed and everyone traded him for Lucian.

This is why people were happy Kei didn't have a recall back then since 90% of people used him.

>>144006250
>milky ee
Hopefully never
>uriel buff
Hopefully soon
>utility strikers buff
Who? Latios is cancer, Kirin is cancer, Ravian is cancer, what's left? Bora buffs? I'd welcome that
>bug fix
THIS
>removing co-op defense
Hopefully never. It does need a balance though. Maybe only for backline shots to activate sometime?
>improving elemental drop rates when
Waiting for this too
>virgil nerf
Hopefully soon

>>144006551
Recall system is a bonus added by BB. Most games do not have a feature like this. I would be happy with it not existing. There is just one problem:

BB are exploiting this system to make players spend more money in the game. It is just there to make players have a false sense of security so that they waste materials on the meta units hoping for recall when meta changes.

Since they changed the recall system policy, afaik, the only player that got recalled was robin. They can easily do this to players that no one uses so that the system is being used.

They can nerf characters below the 30% threshould, therefore units wont be qualified for recall. This just happened to Lucian. Since a lot of players had lucian, if they qualified him for recall they would lose a lot of potential money, since everyone would just change to isillia or other preferred gk. Furthermore, since Lucian wasn't recalled and with the introduction of IMO, just me speculating, the new cancer goalkeeper (Angela) more players will want to spend crystals to get her to substitute Lucian (she even has the same stone slots).

Tl, Dr; Important; Basically just play like recall system doesnt exist. While following the meta, dont forget that BB isnt obligated to recalling a player due to any kind of nerf, but unless the nerf fits their criteria.

Give up now, autist
/ssg/ isn't dying

>>144006551

The recall system was a mistake.

Give players who owned nerfed players some other form of compensation. GP. Gold. Maybe some crystals and a couple of Littres. Not a 'Get out of Jail Free' card that lets them jump from one broken piece of shit deserving of nerfs right over to the next one.

>>144006704
>/ssg/ isn't dying
is it really an attempt at killing ssg though?
This is the quiet hour anyway because it's weekday and the thread is basically getting autobumped

>>144006551
Meh. The recall system was last used for Robin because his skill didn't work as players assumed it would (crit damage reduction for line. But was really only for him) that made his value drop significantly.

Thus he was legit worth taking a recall for. Lucian was put in line to keep Jin as the best GK because legend and to make S2 GK Angela to go from Dud draw to worthwhile. I'll take it because I don't use Lucian (lol) and because anyone who draws and gets s2 shouldn't be subjected to a dud draw.

Clearly Big Ball wants recall to only be used for royal screw ups (robin) not tweaks (lucian)

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>>144006551
If you're smart like a lot of people, you would have back up players, for instance, i have a malcolm but i also use Vbird. i have irre but also have Zibroi. These are not only good for nerf situations, but also match ups.

>>144006985

So where's my Lilith recall?

Remember when they reworked her?

Remember how the recall was so fucking terrible they undid it a few months later and put her back in the hole they found her in?

Oh wait, lolnotS2. So I guess she's gonna be a piece of shit forever, and no recall because lolweweren'tdoingthatyet.

>>144003454
>want to troll
>not creative
>have to steal reddit posts
I never thought it was possible to make the twink look like a good poster but here we are.

>>144006704
Stop calling babydick anon an autist, he is simply feeling lonely lately ... and resorting to eddit spam again.

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Not sure if this has been discussed before, but the recent post about AP debuff not stacking got me thinking. What if all passive buffs/debuffs, whether it's a totem or only for the player, did not stack, and only the highest one is applied? Many skills would have to be rebalanced for this to really work, but I just want to discuss whether this is a good concept or not. Would the game become more interesting/boring? more confusing/simple? more challenging/easy?

>Interesting/Boring

The game as it is right now is dominated by totem players. Backlines are usually filled with HP and Crit Resist buffs. Midline is always dominated by reflex totems, and the frontline always has Silla and/or Luka. I'm generalizing a bit, but I think that covers about 75% of all the end game teams out there.

I think if these buffs did not stack with each other, we will see a much wider variety of players and/or player combinations. You might still see a lot of Kikis and Magnuses, but since the HP buffs won't stack, it's not absolutely necessary to stack so many HP totems. It may become preferred to run another totem like Avnore who can debuff a variety of different stats. Also, Lucian wouldn't need any HP totems since he has a HP passive already, and he will need other types of totems to compliment him. You'll probably still see a lot of Meta + reflex, since Metatron debuffs reflex, but the third slot has more flexibility. Silla will still be used a lot because her totem is just too good, but if passives don't stack, then she won't be needed with some players like Beatrice or Lucid who have penetration already.

>Confusing/Simple

The game will undoubtly become more confusing, since it will be more difficult to figure out which skill has the priority, but I think this problem can be resolved by modifying the UI. If the in-game player screen indicates which skill is "active", then it shouldn't be too bad

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>>144007472
I'll entertain this thought.

For starters let's assume skill buffs don't stack. How would this affect players? It'll surely change what the copy and paste team currently looks like but I doubt it would actually offer anything new. For example, let's say a player no longer can stack triple mid reflex totem. So now they have Atk totem, reflex totem, action speed totem, hp totem, defense totem and will just fine a way to incorporate that mixture and then they combine it with totems that give -reflex, -attack etc.

In addition to nonstacking totems, then what about players who provide team wide buffs. Wouldn't they become irrelevant? You either get 3 team wide buff that covers everything you need and 8 other selfish players or you get a buff totem in each position and 8 selfish players.

In the end you can still have a team that's like Striker / Silla / Luka Bell/ Meta/ Beth/ Jin

I mean if we look at it. Since nothing stacks. All I have to do is fill each position with 1 line breaker, 1 buffer, 1 debuffer and i'm done. Literally no need for diversity. We can substitute each player but in the end it's just the same team with different art. Diversity is about different win conditions, goal.

Lastly difficulty in PvE stages right now isn't a problem due to the skills in the PvE. The problems are concepts introduced into the game and tweaks that are bugged as hell. And everything besides raw damage is incredibly weak/nerfed into oblivion. We don't need to make PvE easier. WE NEED TO MAKE OTHER ROUTES VIABLE. A penguin could slap it's way through with an OHKO TEAM on auto.

What is the logical counter to a boss with high hp. Use % damage. What got nerfed? % damage.

What's a counter to healing? A skill that lowers max hp thus less to heal. What got nerfed?

What was a cool skill that got introduced? Long Shot. What doesn't work with the new AI?

If we want diversity, we don't need to kill totems. We need to make other options just as good as raw numbers.

>>144007681
What I envisioned is that since totems can't be stacked, selfish player's skills will indirectly become stronger, but I see your point. Even though the emphasis for mid is on reflex right now, those players doesn't only have a reflex totem, but usually something else with it. Bell - Meta - Beth might still be the go-to, but I think with this change, it makes using selfish players a little more viable. Striker / Silla / Luka Bell/ Meta/ Beth / Silk / Kevin / Kiki/ Jin or close variations of this formation is so good right now that running anything else is clearly suboptimal at best. But I think if totems didn't stack (or at least capped), then some other formations might work just as well. It's very possible that another cookie-cutter team formation will emerge and become "cancer", but maybe not.

Also, the line-ups will still have 1 line breaker, 1 buffer, and 1 debuffer, but I think it's still more diverse than the current meta. When I think diversity, I think having more players that are viable. Right now, there are just so many trash 5* that no one would use except it's their waifu or husbando. I just want more 5* players to become viable choices.

As for PvE, I didn't think this change would help PvE become more interesting. I was simply stating how it would affect it. Making PvE more fun/interesting is a whole other topic.

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>>144007828
I'm always for diversity. It's just, the simplest argument to create diversity has always been one point. Make diversity a viable choice. For example, Leah and Tyler are both selfish character. It could be possible to run them if certain conditions were met however, and here's the backbone of all the problems, what kind of win conditions do these characters offer? The main problem with selfish character is that they are in fact too "selfish". The selfish i'm referring to however is the goal. These selfish character literally contributes to any goal. They deal damage, they kill a unit. So what? I can still do that with a totem character.

If a selfish character was powerful as Bell or Anael for example and Bell and Anael were stat nerfed heavily(not realistic but let's just toss the potato here), they might have a condition to be chosen. If we pull this matter to the extreme lets say, we change Leah to be an absolute monster of defender. As long as she has action she will win 90% of her steals. If we create something like that, certainly players might consider running her. Which in turn creates formation that might incorporate her.

But the bottom line is that, it's not that totem are so much better. It's that, there's no reason to run a selfish character. For example let's say Tyler deals massive damage to all Assist & Strikers type. Would that alone be enough? Not really. Because damage alone is a stat every player can output. Almost any character can reach a point where their skills is irrelevant to them killing "X" target. What we want to do is create scenarios where selfish players definitively are better.

For example if Leah kills a unit, she heals another character for x damage. That would make her stand out. That would bring viability despite it being a "selfish" skill because it requires Leah to before the act.

>>144007472
A limit on line de/buffs sounds good to me, but only for these.

If Raklet's passives can't stack her set should be totally reworked. Apply this to almost every player in the game and SS would be an art game where every single player does the same having the same skills.

Hovewer it would be more effective and less confusing to add "caps" to effects IMO. If reflexes can't go higher than 200% of the base value (like AS) there wouldn't be any reason to use mid-lines where everyone has 3000+ reflexes. This would completely change the game affecting not only skills and team compositions but also the team Ace and stone sets.

>>144008023
Thanks for the explanation. You made a very good point. Even with this change, there's nothing that makes those selfish player stand out enough for us to pick them. There are a few selfish players with "special" skills though, like Malcolm and Hildegard who brings something other than just killing "X" target. It would be cool if BB can come up with more of these or like you said, give certain players skills that go beyond what a normal player can do. That would definitely spice the game up.

Milky is the B E S T E S T and P U R E S T girl

I think Bigball is going a little overboard on all the crit resist

Don't get me wrong, I was a Silk fanboy before her EE was even announced, but since the recent patch I've seen a lot of people in league (at least in platinum now, it is just the offseason) jumping on the Silk train. With her active and one or two stacks of her passive most GKs can easily reach 200% crit res, which makes pretty much any crit-reliant striker other than William, Leventor, and Vonchi who reach absurd crit rates obsolete (Sharr included, because despite her relative non-reliance on crits she can reach as much crit as William with normal shots). Look at strikers like Beatrice or ahem Uriel, who rely on crits due to their built-in crit damage but are lucky if they reach 270% with their actives (Uriel can only achieve that after multiple stacks of Metatron's Will). Yes, we all got the nerf to William that we wanted, but ironically the increase in number of crit resist options is making it so that we're almost forced to use a select few strikers in order to compete against all the CR stacking.

Also, obligatory "Lucian is basically Jin with a heal and spirit generation" insert here.

Just my thoughts, as always I make these threads not only to rant but to encourage discussion. Let me know if you agree or disagree.

>>144008336
>semen is actually a condensation of men's inner sins and impure feelings
>after cumming, they release it
>milky is actually trying to purify the whole galaxy
PUREST GIRL

>>144008475
Disagree. Sure we can say "Silk" is the new "Nerua" of old. Now CR is going to be a bigger thing than even before. What does this mean? Then it means players should be adapting. Now Sharr, Griffith, Shanti who are raw damage dealer will take the stage. Enemy stacking CR? Smack em' with raw damage duh.

It's only because people try to chase the Meta instead of trying to challenge it do they feel overwhelmed by it.

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>>144008636

Unfortunately my investment is in Hiro who kind of relies on Crit haha XD; at least with WoM I can get a lot of crit in...considering running stealing front rather than double passer though since first shots don't really crit well, if I can get 2-3 in then I think Hiro can prob crit pretty reliably. Utility Hiro go

My problem isn't crit resistance stacking, it's that GKs now have everything, not just CR, like my Lucian can prob hit like 50% DR by himself, adding kevin + active block it's insane and that's not even adding Silla, I know it's multiplicative but that goes in to like 70-80% almost consistently(higher on 1st shot) which is what a GK fully invested in DR should have.

On top of this he has like 3k(?) health, and once I drop in Kevin/Silk, a consistent 180-190% crit res w/ upward of 240 if I get silk's active in. Lucian's probably the worst of the bunch but I'm p sure Isillia, Kei, etc. can all reach somewhere around the same number give/take based on their specialty.

Meanwhile my Hiro can barely get 50% pene(More w/ Luka pass but that's like a one use wonder) and still upkeep decent crit, lol what's a space for dribble. Yeah I can probably take all my stone and put them in Dribble/Pene, but then what?? He got one skill not related to crit and 0 utility.

This situation's probably kind of common other than the raw damagers and possibly some utility strikers, which REALLY lowers the viable striker pool since not every striker is built for utility striking but they all take that many shots now anyway.

Crit resist has just became a bigger problem which is what people are complaining about. now they just do both at once, strikers are suffering a whole lot because they just can't upkeep the amount of stats GKs can stack.

Of course we can just all not run strikers but that is a long hard road and I don't think everyone can do it, and I'm p sure that's not how the game's designed to run either.

>>144008849
I kind of see where the argument comes from. I think we were arguing 2 different thing so my bad on that, I didn't understand the thread as a Silk complaints but rather more than CR is getting crazy, which it is when no one gives up anything and still get 200% CR. By itself it's a fine mechanic, I have no problem with Silk since she's a pure CR totem which is how it should be.

I agree with you on the OHKO mentality, and seeing your explanations I see where you are coming from now. I understand that OHKO strikers are just less effective now, with the number of shots needed to kill increasing.

My problem is that our options are getting increasingly limited regarding strikers. I understand the need to adapt, but I still feel that crit stacking should be a viable OPTION, which atm it's not. Our options are decreasing thanks to the GKs getting EVERY STAT they need while strikers do not.

If someone choose a striker option, then they should be getting equal risk-reward depending on what sort of GK they run in to(High crit = easier against low CR, worse against high CR, high potiential damage but high risk, raw dmg= good against high CR, bad against high DR/Def, and less potiential damage per shot but consistent), make it worth and you don't need to fully invest crit anyway to make it work.

Obviously that needed to be changes, but now it's getting underpowered and FAST, because GKs barely moves a finger and all of a sudden 70% strikers can't crit even when stacking full crit, yes we can all go raw damage build but that doesn't make this less of a balancing problem when strikers have literally 1 effective way to be ran at any given time, especially with the wide array of offensive and defensive stats in this game.

I don't deny many people are complaining for the sake of complaining and that meta shift happens,, but I do hope BB do something about the GK balancing regarding HP, DR and crit/CR balance.

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>>144007472
Can a mod just ban this guy spamming reddit shit?

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>>144007472
Hiro being one of those that is receiving the short end of stick aside is an example of a passing trend.

And yes you are right, people are mostly complaining about CR being a bigger problem is because they feel their windows are getting narrower as the meta drastically shifts away from OHKO. Starting with Hp% Nerf-> Duran/Silla/Verister -> Def Buff -> Max HP nerf -> Kevin/Silk EE.

My point is mostly two things which I suppose I didn't clearly state enough in the original post. One thing, the player base is too quick to whine about a problem without looking for symptoms at a cause leading to the problem which evolves into them chasing a meta. Sure Ravian trend of gravity down died, and everyone that WASN'T using her was relieved. But they never foresaw the change starting ripple effect. Ravian was insanely good at dealing with high def/dr/cr enemies.

If we compare the old Ravian to the current trend of GK, Ravian would infact be a top tier utility striker against the new GKs. With that said, to expect everyone to play utility or to play any specific strategy in any matter is unrealistic. But again what i'm saying is that, there's three ways to look at it.

If a player wants to stick to their guns, they should look at how to buffer their playstyle against the trend instead of chasing of what's good right now. Two, adapt to the new trend by preparing ahead of time so they don't feel like they are always the one receiving the short stick. Or three, accept that their choice that took so much time is simply less effective in the current meta.

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>>144009183
>game discussion is not allowed.
>discordapp.com

>>144008475
I have thought for a while now that Crit/Crit D needs to have some sort of limit. Something where if both Goalie and Striker are maxed out, there is a 50/50 chance of the hit going critical. The only things that get around this are active skills, which should skew the balance one way or the other in order to keep the crit reliant shots and defensive blocks more potent.

>>144009419
well what do you mean? crit rate? or crit resist?

cuz whatever they do to crit rate or crit resist, one or the other will be true....either you can't build enough CR to not be crit, or you will be able to build so much the enemy won't crit....

and before the problem was, that you will be crit no matter what...now the problem is, that you most probably won't be crit...neither is a particularly good design...but I have no clue what they supposed to do with it, other than make it a riskier trade, to trade CR with something else that is essential, so you area ctually sacrificing something for CR

i also do not understand why the meta now is a 4 back such that its so meaty and tanky that a non legend striker wouldn't be able to do dmg...

why dont people start playing a 4 front for more offense to counter the 4 back? either damage build for 1-2hko or utility build so that they cant escape backline

personally i play a 4 utility front in order to counter a 4 back meaty backline, and I dont understand why ppl complain their striker do shyt dmg when they purposely play a 4 meaty back ...and yes my GK gets 2-3hko easily, but what else can I do to kill a 4 meaty back without a legend striker...if doing so increases my chance to win from 0 to 50%, its a good risk to take, rather than shooting forever with no dmg....(also with this line i find dumbkael more annoying than kiki because i can counteratk kiki with no CAR but cant counteratk mikael with CAR wth?)

no offense intended , its a question, why

also, i think death queen's existance is more of why lucian is good....dont you think if every element have their own death queen (and her ace), all GK will also be as tanky as lucian? ._. especially jin and isillia

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Don't forget, single draws have a higher chance of drawing 5*s

>>144009821
apparently not the desired kind

>>144009821
ere's an answer for your question: It's too risky and there's too much "what if"

Why is it risky? Because this game is not about having 4 man line automatically allows you to win that line, it's not that simple. Yes i do agree that bringing a 4th totem to your frontline will increase your striker dmg in some situation like bringing a guin to luka vero lev or william line and it will boost their dmg significantly and i bet everyone knows that already but the main problem is not "ooh let me bring 4 man front to counter your 4 man back", the main problem is midline which is completely unrelated to the topic. To perfectly make use of 4 man front, you need to have a strong mid, will you go around and say "hey!! No one can break through my mid" or are you 100% sure that your mid can break through all the time? Can you counter your opponent mid line no matter what they run? Let's not talk about Meta Beth, can you counter something scary known as IC Choi? Ok, what if you can't counter all those? What if you're having elemental disadvantage and your mid lost because of that? What if IC Choi get pass and your opponent run one of those IC Luka SC guin TB William or Lev? See, there's too many what if.

So let's assume that your opponent successfully break through your mid and you run a 4 man back including gk. What will you be running? Triple totem? Who can carry out the ball reliably? I know EC kiki can do that but without EC Kiki? Will you run a guarantee line breaker like Fontus Hildegard? Bell? Hypermax Virgil? So 1X line breaker + 2X Totem. Who be the totem assume that you run "the strongest 5star gk" Lucian excluding Kiki? Magnus + DQ? Your Lucian will only has 150%-160% crit resist, is it enough to stomp beatrice, hiro etc? Ok so, add kevin or nerua to the line, is it enough for your lucian to reliably tank the shots with only one hp totem? What if your opponent also run 4 man front?

>>144004258
Milky is a top tier waify

would drag my balls across my mothers face for the opportunity of buying a raffle ticket to sniff her shitbox, desu.

>posting worst Milky
baka desu senpai
E and Traveler Milky are best Milkys

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>want to download SS
>check store
?

>>144009183
>Can a mod just ban this guy

We got a mod in #4chan to deal with him the other day. It is hard to get him banned because he is spamming with bogus "almost on topic" content copped from reddit.

I am not sure if he is using multiple IPs to have a conversation with himself, or just getting a screen of nothing but (you) as he keeps replying to his own posts, but the mods should be able to identify his posting pattern by now.

I guess it is just too much work for them.

On an unrelated note, I really wish I knew why the autist was doing this. What trigger him to be so angry, and is this reddit spam somehow therapeutic for him?

>>144011850
It just doesn't show up on Droid4x because it thinks the device doesn't support it.
Download the apk elsewhere and then sideload it into Droid4x and it should work.

>>144011876
Wish the mods would just range ban him

>>144011850
usually a device won't see a game cause its not compatible
find an apk

>>144012304
>ban the entire united states

Need your help /ssg/!
>want to combine for a stone
>don't know what should I aim for.
>need EC and PoME
>Need WoM and TW
>need EBM
>need fontus and Battalion
What to do?

>>144012308
>>144012236
I fixed it, it was just some GPS/Localization bullshit

>>144012445
>not just banning the ips in that range

>>144012445
>>144012304
>united states
>when it was confirmed it's an aussie NEET

>>144012668
Who needs Aussies anyways
ban the whole continent

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reminder that we are getting raided by discord

>>144012801
I need CG
the rest can go fuck themselves though

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So to preface this I’m not jumping to any conclusions but I’m just gonna put facts out and you guys be the Judge.

So there's been a trend lately that everyone and their mother is getting Magnus for their backline. It's understandable to see why. Two of the strongest strikers currently available are William (CANCER THAT HE WAS) and Leventor who, after years of Struggling has finally reclaimed his title as God-ventor.

Besides his Elemental Debuffs he has Honorable Vow which is a great totem and the topic of this debate. I feel that when his EE will come (As it's really a matter of time at this point), this skill might be changed to only affect WW players.

Let’s look at his sister totems as a reference (Just realized Magnus is the only guy elemental totems.)

Nerua: The first of the totems to come out and effectively put an end to era of Hiro and Beatrice. Initially Her EE only had the "Thunder only" Tagline but was soon changed so that her previous evolutions would too. So that Your Kei and Issilia couldn't Benefit from Knight's Oath anymore.

Next up Chitose: The season 2 catty has been in the game for a while and people would argue that she is in fact a season one and BB just got lazy and launched her in S2. She didn't really have a totem besides her elemental one But "Road of the wind" was buffed to be used on all light players in the position.

DQ is Ardor’s elemental totem and Man is she good. She was bugged for a bit where her totem could be used in rainbow teams and everyone made a big deal about it (I could see why since BB takes a while with bugs {See: Super play bug}). After it was fixed though, it made sure to only affect ardor players.

Lastly Patricia, Vitos and Beth's Love child (I don't care if the facts say otherwise) Besides her Elemental totem she has a Self-Buff and A totem that explicitly affects Dark players. So to surmise each player has:

>>144012484

When in doubt I combine for the ones with the lest terrible potential outcome.

A dark or thudner combine is 50/50 chance for bitter outcome. With light there are no bad stones unless you count dupes. You may not get exactly what you want, but if you end up with a PoL it is still an outstanding stone for someone.

>>144013128
So why does magnus has to be nerfed and not the more cancerous kiki or duran?

Why is it such a crime for magnus to have 2 rainbow totems but okay for nerua to have 2 rainbow totems and a mono thunder totem?

I use magnus because he is the perfect companion to my kei who lacks a hp buff of his own to prevent him from being one shot by the reduce 70% defense leventor - veronica frontlines. Mono thunder is so op right now and it baffles me why people are so vocal about nerfing one of its counters.

You know whats more popular than Jin?

Lucian

You know the stat that can make any striker hit like wet toilet paper?

Crit res

You know who has a rainbow crit res totem as well as a rainbow decrease damage from certain elements totem?

Nerua

You know who lucian and high crit res nerf into oblivion?

Beatrice and pretty much every non legend striker

You know who people use in top galaxy pvp?

Lucian, nerua, and the heal all damage Virgil! What a coincidence!

Thunder has the best mid as well as a good backline and frontline. But I guess it is fine that beatrice is indirectly nerf every patch with a new crit res totem and crit rate decrease totem every patch. Meanwhile 2 patches ago thunder got the best striker in the game and another 3 25% stat boost totem.

Also what would changing his vow II into mono ww do anyway? He would still be used with jin and kiki. The only goalkeepers that would suffer are light, they lack hp and are easy one shot targets for leventor.

>>144013128
Yes, making him mono ww exclusive would solve a lot of problems BUT I seriously don't think that needs to happen NOW. Reason because Legendary strikers, for light gk user, changing magnus's totem to -WW only- is considered a very huge nerf for those light gk users that runs magnus hoping that it would somewhat counter leventor because let's be real, Lev's first shot nowadays is literally pre patch William. I do understand that Chitose exist but she's more like a mid line player to me and without any defensive totem, i don't think just by running her would automatically make my light gk survive Lev's kick that well. Yes, i do understand that this happened once with Nerua before but atm, it's Lev we're talking about, not one of those Hiro Beatrice and we have a lot of hp totem to choose from back then but now we need someone that gives defensive stat & DR against thunder striker at the same time, without Magnus's hp totem + DR together, it'll be really hard for light gk users to actually survive unless you don't care about them at all.

If BB decided to make magnus a WW exclusive player, they should do it AFTER they release an obtainable light exclusive defender with similar skills or else it'll just be unfair for other elements since WW already has all dem totems.

>>144013128
You acidentally repeated yourself XD.

Anyways, Magnus EE will be backline cancer knowing BB and their trend of creating players that make it seem as if BB has a deep-seated hatred of all non-legendary strikers.

But, he triggers my Neraizel so hard that she gets 30% boost in HP and attack so it's all cool.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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>>144014782
go away

>>144004994
they'll see if it does well in japan.
the porn will speak for itself

>>144013219
Guess I'll combine for WW then.
I need a couple ECs, AS wouldn't hurt, and PoME is the only thing that makes my Jin need a Kevin in my backline.

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The new AI can take actions based on its damage simulations, which is a nice improvement over taking action based on raw hp and dribble/steal stats. However, because it uses expected value to determine simulated damage for penetrations, it could cause players to suicide even more often than before if they don't crit.

For example, let's say a Patricia has 100/200 hp, 99 dribble, 10% crit chance, and 50% crit dmg, while the enemy Rudiel has 100/100 hp and 70 steal, 80% crit chance, and 50% crit damage. Furthermore, for simplicity, let's ignore the 30% DR that all players get when penetrating/stealing.

Patricia's expected damage = (99 * 1.5 * .1) + (99 * (1 - .1)) = 104.

Rudiel's expected damage = (70 * 1.5 * .8) + (70 * (1 - .8)) = 98

104 is greater than Rudiel's 100 hp, so Patricia thinks she has a chance and decides to penetrates, but she unfortunately doesn't crit (only 10% crit chance) and deals 99 damage. Rudiel does crit for 70*1.5=105 damage, killing Patricia.

In the old AI, Patricia would have passed.

Luckily, this edge case can be solved by just making sure your penetrating player has 100% net crit chance vs the enemy at all times.

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Need a friend with ace that isn't Silla or Metatron because I have a lot of them. -__-

Name: Gerect.

Rank: 90

Ace: Bell 5spu 83+

>>144015532
I'm so conflicted this morning. I need help again :(. I wanted to go mono thunder but I'm wondering if I should go thunder/ww. My thunder players are Lynia,Lukia,Vann,Nerua, Beta, Iggy, Cynthia, Veronica, Freyja, Hildegard, Nute and Luka. My WW players are Irru, Irre, Zhen Long, Qiyou, V.Bird, Kiki, Kirin, Beatrice, Neraziel, Silk, Saramir and Miho. For Unique stones I have glabaris, Silent Cold and Preys Sentence. Today as you know we get a free pick ticket today. So Do I snag Raklet and hold out for Vann EE? If so I feel my CM is lacking as Beta is my best option. If I should go thunder/ww then I can pick up P.Meiran or Linmay or a dupe? And then to top it off my only fully superb players are Shu and Sharr(have several other ardor as well including lucian). And sharr ofc can't take advantage of my newly obtained Glabaris. Idk. I feel as though I should not be stressing so hard over a mobile game lol. I've got like 8-12 of each element 5* players. I want to do either mono or dual element. I'm just not sure which path to take but I'd like to make use of my uniques as they're significantly better than non unique.

>>144015532
I'm switching between lvl 50 Elizabeth and my maxed Meiran if that's ok with you.

>>144015532
I have an MSPU/EE Elaine at +84, skilled at 3/5/5/5 since people I know who are using her are using her passives in CoT matches for back line. Her stones are not the greatest but sits at 1363 Reflex in Formation screen, and has 81 Action Speed. Send a request if you want.

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Who's better for a poorfag ww backline of color?
Nerua or Kevin?

>>144016453

Who is your breakout player?

>>144016545
Khirel.

>>144016594

Nerua then. She can protect your GK and make your Khirel 90% CAR.

Kevins rose debuff the frontline to make them easier to pen through but Khirel tears through them naturally. Only reflex can stop him, and only a CAR failure lets reflex stop him.

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Fuck there are some weird teams out there.

Is this some kind of PvE team the guy accidentally left on?

>>144017434
Not enough dark players in your team so it's kinda hard to randomly choose a dark player for you. Who's your support? I personally vote Yuri or guin. Yuri because you can run her instead of Shura in colo to increase lucid one shot potential. Guin because lucid already has lots of crit, giving her extra crit dmg and pen power is a nice thing to do.


Eventually you will definitely need silk for her ace (really good for metatron and zibroi) or saramir (decent, but doesnt have an EE). Silk is in a really good spot right now, so i'd suggest her. For a WW/Dark comp, you'll want to look for (in terms of priority): Morgana, Meiran, Dale, Malcolm. Morgana for zibroi's affection chain, meiran for more reflex mid, Dale because he's an awesome Dark player, and malcolm as a backline penetrator.

For your front line, you have a few options. You can go more one shot with silla/luka, or you could run a more utility machine gun line with Zhen Long/Linmay. Both work rather well, and you wouldn't be wrong to do either.

I swear this spammer is a bot, or just someone really really fucking autistic
>changes IPs every little while
>posts things that don't even make sense cause of the lack of context

>>144017434
Well for now you should really focus on what kind of hybrid you really want, earlier you mentioned that you feel pretty good about your team, then you say you want to go Ardor/WW.

You could transition from Ardor/Dark to Ardor/WW since you only have 3 dark players, you can replace Dale and Shura while still keeping Metatron, since she's a legend she can do fine on her own even with an ace affecting her. Keep Lucius there since he's much stronger than V-Bird, and replace Dale with a totem like Linmay or Qiyou, and replace Shura with Neraizel or Nari, I would go with Nari since she also gives crit on pass like Shura.

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>>144017928
Can you elaborate?

>>144017928
Im going to go with the latter

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>>144018398
Who's this qtp2t

Hey guys i just rerolled a new acc wif Lev, Silla, Victoria, Hercules, Virgil and Sage. Was thinking of thunder/light but no aces rly fit thm, and i rly feel like wind thunder. Can anyone recommend me a gd midline setup, and who i should prioritize? Many thx :D btw im lv32 and rngesus does not shine apon me much so pls stick wif s1 players tq :P

>>144017928

I was thinking he was a bot as well, just a text parser that grabs paragraphs at a time from reddit.

But now and then he puts in greentext comments into his reddit pasta, or he pretends to be someone else and comes to his defense and posting shit like "since when is posting game discussion not allowed?" and that kind of thing.

His motive is still a mystery to me. Every shitposter in the history of 4chan had a motive to behave the way they did.

I wonder if he is that one autist who wants /ssg/ wiped out and merged back into mobage general?

>>144019613
>I wonder if he is that one autist who wants /ssg/ wiped out and merged back into mobage general?
I post that sometimes but I'm not the spammer

>>144018937
>1 Legendary
>3 Cancers
lucky fucker

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>>144019613
>I wonder if he is that one autist who wants /ssg/ wiped out and merged back into mobage general?
So its jkun then?

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>mfw that reroller anon who gave me a lev/balth/2superb raklet at the start of season 2 must hate himself now
The guy even gave away a choi/vonchi account too

>>144019801
Im a F2P player.... no Bell ._. Btw thx fr advice but im debating heavilu brtween scouting cynthia and irre atm. Ur opinion?

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>>144019914
>he's literally bullied every time
>he's one of the most despised in the thread
>his team is shit, and people tell him so
>his waifu is shit, and people tell him so
>everything associated with him is instant garbage
>the thing that pissed him off was a false accusation

I should've applied

So my 2400 reflex Anael can fail to steal 20 times in a row against Veronica, but a 1380 reflex Luka can steal the ball from my 1300 reflex Raklet 4 times in a row.

Seems legit.

>>144020957

Oh, I should have pointed out that the Veronica had only about 1200 reflex.

>>144021105
Counter attack resistant?

>>144021358

Zero. It's Colo 42. The game is just devoted heart and soul to beating me, and isn't afraid to cheat to do it.

I'm the same guy who was bitching earlier about how Guin can kill my GK without even touching her by abusing that super play bug that drops Raklet's HP by 90%.

>>144021650
>colo
There's your problem, idiot.

>>144021650
Shits annoying then you see people in esports OBVIOUSLY trying to abuse it by having elizabeth in the front line

>>144020687
fuck you, Milky is great
I was just memeing as usual, I've said I'd stop posting a few times already yet I'm still here

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Hi there, I am Gio, nice to meet you.

Here I want to share my view about most overpowered players.
While it is only my opinion, still many players feel in the same way.
Tier Broken:

Duran - not much to say.

Choi - Tons of dmg, IC holder and amazing buff with pass. Do you think Bell is broken? Nope.

Virgil – Great HP reduction totem, can hold IC/EBM, great combat stats, Active heal, spirit which makes his active free, heal lane while pen. Do you think Beth is great? Nope, this guy is much more better.
Kirin - Probably most players haven't noticed it yet, but they will, there is 0 counter play to Kirin.

Tier OP or Almost Broken:


Miho - Not much to say, HP totem, AB burn, Active heal.

Vitos – Not much to say, overbuffed, he needs to be toned down.

Khirel - abnormal efficiency

Victoria - abnormal efficiency

Silk - abnormal efficiency

Lucian – abnormal efficiency, at least no Broken anymore.

This lis is not final and does not cover everything, just sharing my experience.


While entering this thread leave you hating/fanboy/"owner" style of thinking outside, stay open minded.


Here I will stop, I think I’ve covered most major issues.

PPS I am just a duck after all

>>144022481
Where is silla and luka?

>>144022675
Pleas cut off this Luka BS in my topic, feel free create new one. Thanks.

>darkfags are reddit
Disgusting

>>144022481
>btw I use Bell + thundermid + silla/luka/sharr

>>144022835
Why? You are not being fair here.

You made a list of overpowered players and deliberately left out Luka and Silla for some inexplicable reason. They are the very worst offenders and belong near the top of your list right above Virgil and they have been a game-breaking problem for far, far longer than any other player on your list.

"Silla/Luka/Striker" is the crutch that most most of the cookie cutter players relied on for their free ride to galaxy. It is the frontline that has totally dominated this game for the past year and is also responsible for team building to become so stagnant. Both should have been nerfed 6 months ago to become mono-color totems and to prevent their pairing up with each other. Silla's penetration totem should have been light only, and Luka's Noble Heart should have been thunder only (and maybe have her ardor slot changed out).

A perfect frontline shouldn't exist. Silla/luka were both the cancer at the heart of the 100% pen OHKO metagame and simultaneously the best defense against it (45% free damage reduction for the whole team). They are the ultimate offense combined with the ultimate defense. They represent everything wrong with this game and the only reason they haven't been nerfed is because it seems 80% of the player base cannot get past diamond rank without them and the developers seem too afraid to touch them.

The free ride needs to end.

Beatrice/Evylin/Linmay
Saramir/Neraizel/Meiran
Magnus/Khirel/Silk/Kiki
Jin

How does my mono WW team look?

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>>144022481
moving onto the forums now?

>>144022481
Hi Gio and nice to meet you. I would like to share my opinion with you because i found some things in your post that i would like to point out. By tier broken you mean that those guys are unstoppable? If you say yes then i will OBJECT and inform you as fast as light that there is no invulnerable player. Anyway, i would like to tell you that some players that you are referring are legends which mean they need to be strong since they are very rare to get like Duran,Choi e.t.c especially to duran and choi since both of them are S2 legend and like S1 legend they need to be strong to have some balance and not fill the whole forums,reddit like S1>S2 e.t.c. About the stones it's important to make some because many high leveled players have many stones (including unique) which will make your game harder. Believe me that some that are called Op like Miho are not as op as they say (not because that i hate her) but because i penetrated a lvl 60 evolved miho with my Yuri lvl 50 evolved (not EE) easily without any spirit stones equipped which means all characters have some pros and some cons. Focus on the game and fight until the end bro. There will always be some stronger people than you but don't worry because with their help you can become stronger. Also don't forget to read some more guides and have fun! Good luck.

P.S I didn't referred to others like Vitos,Kirin,Lucian e.t.c because i know they are hard but you can always find a way to defeat them for example Kirin is very fast and can shoot and paralyze your defense but if you have a strong attacker like kiki then you can penetrate him easily because he is not that strong (he is more speed card rather than power) or Vitos is strong but absorbs hp each time he shoots so make a strong defense and take him out.

>>144023150
Hi there,
and i say no,
It is all about performance.

I'm sorry but i have no idea what are you talking about, and i'm pretty much sure that you either xD

Regards

PS To make it clear i'm Galaxy tier league player.

>>144022996
Because everything was already discussed. Silla-Luka-Striker is not the best for the most of strikers.

>>144023314
Just change your name to Fred already.
The fact that you can so easily get the two players and get 100% pen with them means it is the best setup for every relevant striker. Every other setup requires either a legend or s2 player, they may be stronger but they're hard to get, you'd have to whale or be incredibly lucky to get the player you need.


By the way, you forgot a lot of major issues in your list, I'll list them out for you:
Leventor
Luka
Veronica
Cynthia
Lynia
Nerua
Or just eradicate thunder, piece of shit is just broken as fuck
There's more non-thunder players too that need nerfs too, but I'm listing the main problems, which you seemed to forget, thundercuck

>>144023472
Thunder have great synergy, not like any of listed units are broken. William is stronger than Leventor, why you don't complain about him?
Yeah Veronica is pretty great now dues to pen nerf.
Cynthia can shine only in thunder setups still can fail to RNG 25%.
Lynia? Mikael also gives 3x25% totem why you don't complain about him?
Nerua - somewhat agree on this, she is superb for thunder.

From all this list i use only Lynia(considering to replace her for Victoria or Jacob) and Veronica (used even before pen nerf).

Overall i would say thunder have great synergy and great players, but not like they are are broken as players. Rest elements just have poor synergy overall but can outstand in something. For instance Ardor or WW have far more better backline.

Again dot get me wrong, here i list players which are obviously OP or broken on their own, You can just take any player from this list put the to any element team and they perform great.

>>144023314
Maybe you mean for Kirin and Ravian frontline, but Luka could probably still be used on both. I just don't see how Luka can't be used on any frontline, specially with her lowering the entire backline speed by 35% by simply passing which gives more time to recover AB and have more chances to shoot again. Not even counting her overall good utility ..

>tfw no point in posting because the bot discusses the game for you

>>144023792
Not the Best, not like you can use them. Mostly this combo are good only for Shar/William - thats it. Rest will use if they drastically need silla ace or for no brain copy paste.

>>144023314
>>144022481

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rh8XvNPIHw

Are you really not going to address any of the clearly overtuned thunder units?

Thunder is fine its just a poverty option for non iap

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Is the fem batlheon event up or not?
i don't see an event notice in the shop.

>>144025174
It is up, no notification in the shop though.

>>144024935
Ahahaha
ahaha
aha
wow
Are you actually serious? Even whales use thunder.

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>>144025174
should have been up by now.
maybe they realized they fucked up

>>144025739
>>144025174
>I was going to spend $110 today
>read this
DODGED A BULLET

Wow that legend pack sure is garbage

>>144026146
Oh c'mon, it's a lot better silly anon!
>S1-S2, have a chance to get a legendary
>from 500k to 1 mllion gold
>retained the same price
See? Clearly a good offer!

>>144026315
>getting a legend
>getting an s2
>getting an s2 legend
>1m worth 99bucks
golds so easy to gain too, why not make it like 20million

>>144026315
I also have a chance to get a legend with 30 crystals.
It doesn't mean I will.

>>144026315
give me a Renee already you fucking cuck

>>144026734
But look, you can have way MORE chances and the pack gives looots of things!

Stop bringing good arguments or I will have to hunt your account.

>>144027053
I can guarantee that you will get her this month anon.

>>144027267
Do it fag. I'm not afraid of you, piece of shit.

>>144022481
>0counter to play Kirin
Well good thing Angela EE made it just in time.

> GKs who can live off without Silla and on two totems

Who are they? Reason being is that I want to put Khirel in the backline and finally use that totem. I was thinking Raklet since I have the stones.

>>144028467
Maybe Angela and Lucian, as both are good have can heal.

Reminder to do your daily event mission!

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>playing a game where everyone has the same team and ace.

>>144029821
no one has the same team and ace as me though

That GIoB89 sure is vocal on those forums as some kind of self appointed guru.

>Best score: 1602

He got one baby toe into Galaxy league once and never dared an actual battle in that league.

I am assuming he is a reddit celebrity?

this purchase event sucks. At least make it a month

>>144030285

>I am assuming he is a reddit celebrity?

Yes. There is no use arguing with the likes of him.

>>144030759
its FUN___________________

Does flat hp on stones get multiplied by %hp totems?

patch preview when?

>tfw no legendary striker

I'm never going to make it lads

Griffith buffs when
make her the only striker to increase current total attack power with active
and make it 80%

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>downloaded ArtBook content
>ThumbnailSeason3_out
?

>>144032290
She is already broken anon

>>144032342
>implying
This is the stupidest bait I've seen.

>>144032503
is not

>>144032724
She is.
As a broken tool.
Useless.

Renee on rotation when?

>>144032907
>>144032724
>all this falseflagging

>>144033529
>implying
if she's not better than old sharr she's not good enough
she deserves only the best

>ywn touch metatron's metas

How do you cope with the feeling that you cant take you waifu to galaxy that you resort to using another striker?

I-I feel empty

>>144037125
you fill your mid and backlines with cancer and princess carry her to the top

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>Lucian GK
>Kiki/Virgil/Khirel
>Choi/Meta/Beth/Yuri
>Silla/Luka/Willy
>his choid killed my Meiran and Neraizel INSTANTLY
>his willy got to shoot 4 times to my Jin
>somehow I could make it to his frontline twice
>I killed his Lucian with my Beatrice with two shots
>MFW

>>144037314
but BB isnt giving me anything but thunders and Uriel isnt helping after all the things i devoted to her

>>144037732
>thunders
sounds like you're well on your way to a cancer mid to me

>>144037125
Never abandon your waifu. The payoff will be much sweeter when you reach galaxy with her by your side.

Why do Lucian users equip him with a reflex red stone on prism?
Wouldn't a defense thunder be better?

>>144039453
Thunder defense is the best option, but it's not a big enough difference to make up for shit substats compared to ardor reflex or ww as.

>sharr gets bonus damage against her weak element, thus removing any weaknesses

Why is this allowed? b

>>144039453

Slightly better, but you want refexes on him for Colo so he can hold the ball.

>>144040792
Same reason why Griffith does too.

>>144040792
Shanti and Griffith have it too

>BethMetaChoi mid
>legendary striker
>Khirel or Bell in the back
when will BB put a limit on legends allowed in a team in PVP?

>want to get khirel's glorious elven dick to carry my team
>need nerua and kevin so my jin won't be critted every time
>can't replace magnus or kiki neither
>jin GK
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO

>>144042228
>when will BB put a limit on how much money you can pay in this pay to win game?

I hope you realize how stupid you sound.

>>144042657
maybe this is why ppl have been memeing with him mid

>>144042678
>btw i wasted gorillions to get every cancerous legend and max him :^)
Kill yourself. That shit shouldn't be allowed
Or make a system to avoid poorfags to face these shitters in league unless there are no poorfags in your respective league, and if so, the samish TA as possible.
Just like club battles, it's so unbalanced it comes to luck of not facing a full whale club, or quit every match. Fuck this shit system.

>>144042746
But that's not efficient though.
And besides, I run Meiran/Neraizel/Silk in mid, can't use Khirel there, unless I remove Meiran, which I won't do because she's my waifu, can't remove silk for her active, and nera for her pass and because she helps countering meta and thunder mids.
Should I just remove Nerua and Kiki altogether and just get a fucking Lucian? Is he still relevant?

>>144043608
You can try swapping between Magnus and Nerua depending on enemy striker and have Khirel take one of those places

>>144043608
Thats why I said memeing, but yeah I'm in a similar situation. I want to put him somewhere for his totem but every other unit in place atm seems to important to remove

>>144042945
there is
it called Diamond

>>144043608
Guess that's a more sound idea.
I'll try that then, thanks, mysterious anon.
>>144043896
Team? We might have an idea you haven't considered, like that anon helped me.

>>144043953
Teams really cookie cutter so its a bit embarrassing but the backline is Kevin-Miho-DQ-Jin-Lucian. I could possibly remove Miho but losing the health, reflex and heal is pretty big. If I remove anything else I start getting crit by everything ever since the nerf to Lucian

>some autist here got a cum2us thread closed
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

>>144044621
What? Saource?
>>144044513
Maybe DQ when not facing dark or WW?

>>144044621
Which one?

>>144044730
DQ is the ace so thats a no go unfortunately

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>>144044730
>>144044735
https://forum.com2us.com/forum/main-forum/soccer-spirits/kuma-s-suggestion-box/1245304-current-major-issues-with-op-players/page15
they couldn't handle "jcuck"'s bants

>>144044841
I see.
I don't know then, other options would imply taking away 30 CR and hp, or 25CR and CR.
Good luck anyways

>>144044986
based af

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Am i fucked if i go with a thunder team without having Bell/Leventor?

>>144045425
>Ass
fuck you

>>144045425
Glabanon made it to champs without them, getting further then that will be hard but by the time you get champs you should have enough d-stones to get either of them anyway

>>144045425
>Asslad

I hate you so much right now

>>144022882
Who's our resident darkfags?

when will I get my Ass? I want the qtest legend

>>144045502
What striker did glab anon use if he didn't have Lev?

>>144046081
Blade, forgot to mention he didn't use any legends at all and also used Nute as gk

>>144044986
just as well, that thread went on too long anyway

I'm going to cum on Jkun!

Patch preview when?

>>144046748
w-why

>>144047010
why not

>>144047010
we gotta give him what he deserves

>>144046812
tomorrow i'm guessing

>>144047260
did I do something good?
th-thanks

>>144047310
helped bully fred on the forums

>>144044986
>millennial moderator closes the thread because of name calling
Can't make this shit up

>>144045759
There's four in lolibutts but then again lolibutts is the reddit club so we shouldn't blame them.

New leader of Lolibutts when. Denk is too inactive and weak.

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>>144045792
Using your free pull during Asslad rate up 2 weeks from now

>>144048297
And so it begins to crumble.
JK for president

>>144048297
Make _Clop_ the new leader :^)

>>144048545
fuck you
I wish I had her, she's the only s2 legend I care about and would try to squeeze into my team

>>144048547
how would JK lead 2 clubs?

>>144048297
please no, I'm only in Lolibutts for Denk

>>144046812
>>144047274
Friday

>>144048640
>How to make a club fall in less than 12hrs

Im all for it

>>144048297
>yfw jcuck joined lolibutts to secretly take over
No wonder Denk is 2 days inactive.

>>144048297
>level 3 Meeting Room
For what purpose? I hope Denk will reset the points later and put those points into Dining Room because what a bad decision.

>>144048907
I only wanna be led by Denk though
If Denk quit, I'd leave lolibutts

>>144048297
Denk needs to pass leadership over to someone stronger and actually active.

>>144048990
>implying denk knows what he's doing

>>144049321
>he

>>144049407
everyone knows Denk is a cute boy

>>144049097

Come back denk

You need to keep your shitter containment club contained

>>144049140
He needs pass it over to someone with legend luck because I didn't get any legends with Denk as leader.

>>144049558
>Soccerpug leads Lolibutts
>everyone gets Ass

how much dick do i have to suck to get denk to come back

>>144050041
SOCCERPUG AS LEADER WHEN

How to make Sam/Noa viable without making them too overpowered for a free unit?

Would you add pen to one of their passives? Or crit damage? Or just buff their stats some to be on par with an EE'd 5* player?

>>144050696
Make their passives scale with number of completed chains/book completion/number of evolved units, to the point where they're subpar compared to most strikers for most players but the strongest by far when every chain in the game is completed.

More lore when?

>>144051215

I like the scaling idea, but making them significantly stronger than 5 and even 6* strikers just means people won't bother using any, and just spam chains instead.

Put them in a place where they're on par with good 5* strikers, and give them the third stone slot. And make that slot something other than Ardor.

While we're at it, add in the final stone slot to the game. Make it hard to unlock. Make it require something like, several rainbow and BHS's, and maybe a new item that drops rarely from stone matches. And a lot of gold. Cheap enough that poorfags can afford to get it on a few crucial players, but expensive enough to give even whales pause before they unlock every player on their team.

Well, that or just add a seventh star, raise the level cap to 70. But then you have to grapple with the idea of needing to super train players with SIX STAR PLAYERS. Pretty horrifying.

>>144050178
Fuck no, he's lucky but he's a shitter. The only one fit to lead is Pandregon but he's a thunderfag.

>>144052535
i like jksmity in the best club

Better than that fucking guy who cums on pieces of paper that's for sure

>>144052535
What's wrong with thunderfags?

>>144052757
Who came on the paper? Pretty sure we dont know who it is

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>>144052838
We all know who did it [/spoiler]:^)))

>>144052929
Fuck (You) I didn't do it

>>144052838
Someone whose brother also plays based on the replies from the first

>>144052535
Denk's the shitter.

>>144052976
Dude who did it could post his SSN here, i wouldn't care.

It will always be you in my heart

>>144052838
thought it was already confirmed CG did it

>>144052838
It's obvious that Jkun did it.

>>144053161
CG is bigger

>>144053141
Why

>>144053091
Remember back in november when Denk was loved by everyone and hated by everyone? Nobody will ever reach Denk's level not even jcuck was known by name back then.

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>>144048297
I nominate the drawfriend

Jkun, just fess up. We know you came on Milky. We can tell by that twink cock.

>>144053379
I'm pretty sure I was known then, I was still hated by a lot of people back then, not as much as now though
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/Jakenkun/page/6/

>>144053664
Post the tip of your penis

>>144053664
Only reason they knew who you are is because you kept replying to every club post saying you wanted an invite. You basically namedropped yourself until people noticed you and started to add you to their list. Don't ever reply to me again, you cuck.

Jkun = Confirmed as webm autist until he posts his dick as proof

>Only reason they knew who you are is because you kept replying to every club post saying you wanted an invite.
No one cared and knew until I was outed as the Anaelposter

>>144054289
>>144053753
>>144053652
(You)

>>144054289
Why is everyone making Jkun a villain? I think it was pretty brave of him to show his love for his waifu to the public. Lolibutts needs a brave and bold person like him to become its leader.

>>144054635
>>144054104
I'm not actually a cuck

>>144054769
so you are the one who came on milky and irru
i knew it!

>>144054635
>tfw i caused this entire mess by guessing your elaine ace
I feel responsible for ruining this thread.

>>144055386
Thanks for ruining everything anon

>found SIX FUCKING VONCHI USERS
>all of them had at least 4 legends
Fuck this fucking bullshit game

I'll do you guys a favor, I placed my detective hat on and found out who's the new shitposters. The one doing the webm is one of the frogposters here but there looks like there are at least 3 people who posts frogs and I don't know the names of them. Now for the autist spammer, he's not new and has been here since the start of /ssg/ maybe even /mbgg/, just keep an eye on people who am in champs and higher at /ssg/.

>Victoria has 50% buff for the most cancerous stat in the whole game
>literally, with another buff at 30% it'd be more balanced
>she's tanky as fuck with her 40% DR
>she can even revive the line with a crit
Nerfs when? This shit shouldn't be allowed.

>>144056043

>Nerfs when? This shit shouldn't be allowed.

Around the time Thunder get their mid nerfed.

>>144055965
i'm pretty sure jkun doesn't post frogs

Best stones for Silk?
WWReflex/WWDecrease damage/Dark speed/Dark speed?
I don't have EC or Fontus for her.

Jkun was just trying to revive /ssg/ with those 2 Milky and Irru webms guys. He is the hero /ssg/ needs.

>>144057246
I'd rather let /ssg/ die, I dont care about this general much now

>>144057361
shut up jkun and post more webms

>>144057361
Now you know how everyone felt when you were shitting up the threads.

> Tfw this will be the sixth season where I'm stuck in champs

I should kill myself. Unless Bell and Khirel are somehow enough.

>>144046245
> used

You mean uses. EE when.

>>144057361
>jkun is being tsundere
muh dick

>Jkun literally asking to be raped

>>144058241
Shut up, I dont care about you cucks

>>144057906
I didn't do anything that bad though, it was just a little FUNposting

Is there any S1 Legendary that isn't a striker that can carry you to Champs easily when paired with Jin?

>>144058609
Any legend on their own is easy as long as your team is solid. I've been doing it without any for a long time now

>>144059087
Except Shu
>tfw got Shoe for my free legend
>tfw this Shoe could have been a Balth

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>>144058816

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>>144059276
>tfw got balth as my free legend
>tfw pulled balth 2 days later from free draw

My legend drawing luck is all used up on a fucking dupe

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>you'll never own sammy

>>144059645
>he HAD a legend draw at all
Kill yourself, ungrateful son of a bitch.

>>144059645
> Get bell with Dstones
> A few weeks after I hypermax her I get a Bell dupe from seasonal achievements.

My first legend that wasn't from the poverty box or from Dstones, and it's a fucking dupe I don't need.

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>>144059758

>>144060069
>>144059758
>>144058816
D I S G U S T I N G

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>>144060180
soft

>snowball will never come back

it hurts to keep on living

>snowball will never come back

It's a wonderful world.

>>144060312
Disgusting

>>144060458
He was too good for this game anyways.

>>144058510
>Shut up, I dont care about you cucks

Y-you dont mean that

;_;

>>144059603
Go back to bed faggot

>>144060978
>middle of the afternoon

u wot m8?

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the artist who drew neetbell draws some cute stuff

>>144062181
Nice!
Sauce?

>>144062340
>asking for sauce when you're already given the artist

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>>144062340
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=2821983
>>144062564
no need to be mean anon

No snowball does indeed suck a lot

Would've been great to have a few more new units drawn by him :c

I don't care about the super lewd part, I just miss him because of the qt thick girls he draws.

>>144063138
>qt
Nice meme

Reading about the art changes, neris changes and recall system make me want to quit this gay game 3 days after I started

>>144063389
>neris changes
It benefited regular players. Whales were benefiting from the original neris far more than f2p players.
>recall system
Same as above. Whales who already had MSPU Magnus/Nerua/etc happily gave them up to effectively receive 5 litres.

>>144063747
>Whales were benefiting from the original neris far more than f2p players
Nigger whales benefit from literally everything more than F2P.

Besides whales already have fully superbed units you moron, the only thing they whaled for back then were legends.

>>144063861
>Nigger whales benefit from literally everything more than F2P.
So you're happy with even more features which increase that gap?

>Besides whales already have fully superbed units you moron, the only thing they whaled for back then were legends.
Not when original neris still existed

>>144064019
>Not when original neris still existed
Are you retarded? Whales roll until they have everything. Thats the point of whales.

>>144064243
>all whales have infinite resources
no?

>>144064290
The only thing holding whales back were BL's and evo materials.

Besides you retard a thousand dollars in the old element tabs would get you fully superbed all non 6 star players of your element of choice easily.

>>144064243
I'm the second or third biggest whale here, you're completely wrong. There's still many characters I've yet to MSPU.

>>144063389
Neris were harder to get than they are now anyway. More common Neris now for money is great.

>>144063138
At least he's better than reason, I'll give you that.

Silk is truly the new Nerua

I love Silla

>>144025739
This stupid game with robots. One day i tried like 6-7 different emulators to run her, but she still refused to work.

>>144056535
WWreflex and steal, dark speed and ardor reflex. Or you can still go for your version, but atleast switch ww dec dmg for steal.

>club points
hue

>>144004258
>another /ssg/
>not in
>>>/trash/

>He wouldn't suck dick for his waifu

What's your excuse?

>>144025739
Wuts dis gaem?

>>144064521
how many neetbux have you spent on this game kohai?

>>144064539
My problem with current neris is it doesn't help me get units, which is what I need cos my draws have been garbage.

If I put together a 6* neris from scratch it only gets me 200k net profit, at the cost of 195 GP and taking up acres of box space, not to mention the capital I need upfront to combine them. It's some bullshit man.

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>>144060312
>>144058816
Perfection

>>144060180
Disgustingly delicious

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Rate my Jin.