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Mysterious Flail Hunter Edition

Prey Super Dead Yo: >>143805373

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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First for KOS
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Stake Driver or Boom Hammer?
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>>143938834
Stake Driver
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>>143938815
>not KOSM

You fucked up everything.
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>>143938834
Both. Switch between the two depending on situations.
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>>143939153
There's not a single situation where Boom Hammer could be useful
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>>143939153
But I already have the LHB in one slot
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Quick Q: I'm a Skill build, I don't require strength beyond 10 to use the weapon of my choosing. I have 15 spare points
Should I put them in str to get soft cap (this adds 39 AR to my weapon)

or allot the points elsewhere?
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>>143938975
Only fags call it Kosm.
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>>143938815
>>143938975
You could sit about and speak feverishly about new ideas of the higher plane but instead you keep bantering about this beastly idiocy.
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>>143938834
Stake Driver for single targets, Beast Cuttah for groups, Boom Hammer for home maintenance and repairing other weapons.
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>>143939230
Maybe not but it looks fun
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>>143939320
Depends on your current stats and weapons. I'd probably say elsewhere but there's no way of knowing without seeing stats I guess.

>>143939321
>Luci calls it Kos
Enough said
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>>143939320
You can put them in Arc to reach 15 which will let you use EPS (if your weapon allows it) as well as the utility from Beast Roar and Augur. And if you can use EPS then you'll also enjoy using OHB since you'd be exactly that kind of fucktard. Then put whatever's spare into Vit.
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>>143939804
Just because a cancerous tripfag calls it Kos it doesn't mean you fags are allowed to call it Kosm.
You probably call niggers "afroamerican people" too, don't you?
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>>143939804
I opted on the 39 extra AR.

Gonna be SL100
35/20/25/50/5/15
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I can't even touch the cursed keeper of the old lords, I'm too hot and angry for this now.
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>>143939435
>the proper name of a entity of the eldritch truth
>not important

Get a load of this beastly idiot.
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>>143939923
>allowed to call it Kosm.

Why would anyone call it anything other can Kosm?
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>>143939923
You don't?
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>>143940182
Then what do you call the Moon Presence? Lunar Aura?
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>>143939230

Tricked uncharged r2 is great to farm watchers. Staggers them through each of their attacks and has decent range
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>>143939967
>35 vit
>20 end
>25 str for Rakuyo or Burial Blade

Your priorities are all fucked up and I look forward to someday two-shotting you.
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>>143940461
I don't PvP, sorry.
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>>143940743
Then there's no point to a level-capped build at all.
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>>143940884
Unless he wants to try co-oping on stuff.
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>>143940884
I don't plan to exceed sl100, I'd like to play with friends who are also sl100.
I like to optimize my build at set levels. Whats the fun at sl 99*6
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>>143940983
This is what passwords are for.

Either way if you plan on NG+ing or chalice delving you'll want to divert some of that Str or End into Vit.
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>>143941429
If push comes to shove, i'll go SL115 and have 50 vit.
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>>143941620
>I like to optimize builds at set levels
>Unless if things get hard :'(
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>>143938684
>In Nightmare Frontier
>hate every second of it because I hate swamps, and this one's full of tentacles
>reach mysterious open arena
>badvibes.gif
>Walk in, fucking Amygdala jumps down on me
>chunk the fuck out it with hunters axe, only burn four vials, get two viscerals almost by accident, actually finish it off with a visceral
>mfw
Is Amygdala easy or am I just overlevelled?
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>>143941950
Nightmare Frontier Amygdala is easy.
Defiled Chalice Amygdala is easy too, but more of a pain in the ass.
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>>143942018
Glad to know I'm not actually getting good at the game.
Now, where the fuck is Patches? I owe him an asskicking.
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Any tips for where I should take my build?
Currently it's Level 57
>Vit 20
>End 22
>Str 26
>Skill 13
>BT 16
>10
Going strength build obviously, mostly using Hunter's Axe.
Also, I keep getting my ass kicked by Logarius, is it worth activating my two free days of PSN and calling up help?
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>>143942302
Put more points into End.
Stick close to him and make sure to try to keep behind him or anywhere else that isn't right in front of the fucker, because he'll rape you.
Also, backstab him when he starts charging to fuck up his power-up and hit his sword when he sticks it into the ground to stop it from spamming its shitty spell.
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>>143942302
Learning to beat him by gitting gud is a far better option. And I'm not just memeing or anything here, it's genuinely satisfying and if you summon for him it will just feel like a hollow victory.

Get Vit to 30 then pump Str to 50, whilst bumping other stats to meet requirements for weapons or tools that interest you.
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>>143942595
Mainly my problem is landing a hit on him, the axe is kinda slow and he hops around a lot.
Thanks for the tip though.
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>>143942747
Just wait for him to do a charged attack, faggot leaves some huge windows when he does those.
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>>143942724
Cool, thanks.
If you don't mind, can anyone explain the weapon scaling system in BB? Do the weapons get better scaling as they are fortified?
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>>143942595
>Put more points into End.
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>>143942724
Honestly, I believe one should beat every boss in the game by himself at least once.
I know they can be hard and annoying as fuck, but it always feels more satisfying to finally kill the fucker all by yourself rather than by relying in someone else or in a summon.
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>>143942871
Weapons do get better scaling as they are fortified, and generally fortifying a weapon will give it more damage that upgrading a stat so that should be a priority.

Stats have two softcaps. They give a good damage increase until 25 then after that the increase is lower until 50. After 50 the damage gain drops off severely up to 99 which is the hardcap. Vit softcaps at 30 and 50, and End softcaps at 40, but generally speaking any point put in End is worth more in another stat because the gains are minimal and can be offset by simple stamina management.
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>>143938684
Finally beat Maria's ass for the first time and got my Rakuyo on my skill build and holy shit, what a fun weapon.

Chalice BSB was actually a fun time, but I need 8 fucking chunks to get it up to +9.

Any good spots to grab a lot of these, or am I just better off running chalices and getting insight to spend at the messengers?
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>>143943495
Assuming you just ran to the well and got the Rakuyo without doing Hamlet proper, Hamlet has Chunks all over the shop.

If you've already ran through and got them, Isz layer 1 Brainsucker boss tends to drop 1 or 2. With a bolt paper and parrying you should be able to get all 8 fairly quickly.
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>>143942847
>>143942724
>>143943056
Alright, I'll just keep running him until I get his moveset down.
I'm mainly impatient because I really want to get THE WHEEL
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>>143942302
Start over. That build is a mess. And Logarious is pretty easy once you learn his gimmicks.

Also when starting a new build your priority should be getting 20 vit, up to 15 - 20 end, then 30 vit, before really boosting damage stats.
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>>143943910
Yeah, I grabbed the sword right from the well and went back to chalice grinding. I'll do a proper run of it tomorrow, I guess.

I can't wait to tear up some more bosses like the spinning sword top I am.
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>>143943495
If you have the lower depths unlocked then the boss drop them. Boss rush all 3 layers of ptwrx6tb if you want to farm chunks and stones.
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>>143943367
>Vit softcaps at 30 and 50
Fuck I thought it was 40.
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>summon Gascoigne in NG+ because I wanna see
>Some laggy retard invades me
>does almost nothing but charged R2 with the axe from yards away and always runs and heals
>starts trying to be cheeky by going invisible but it doesn't work
>waits by the two brick ogre guys like an idiot then just leaves
What a fucking waste of 15 minutes
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So, I made it to Rom.
I entered the arena.

No music is playing, I don't see the red boss bar at the bottom. Rom is just sitting there.
So, here I am, standing behind her, wondering if I should make the first move. Don't know what will happen if I stand in front of her or not.

Too scared.
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>>143948053
>Knowing Rom's name before facing her

Do whatever you want you've already fucked it up for yourself
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>>143948053
Sit down in front of it
Look at it
Open your eyes completely.
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As long as you don't consume the old blood you can't become a beast, right?
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>>143948167
Well, I watched Youtube videos of the game a year before I finally bought it.
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>>143948194
I'm honestly scared to do this.
Since I'm standing right behind her, I can get a clean first hit in, but if I stand in front, I'm afraid I'll lose my chance.
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>>143948254
Right. You'll just be hunted and eaten by them or fall victim to the many, many plagues and diseases of the day.
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>>143948414
Fun times in Yharnam.
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>>143948413
>one hit matters
just get a good look at the cutie before everything gets heated.. You probably won't first try the fight anyway, so that hit doesn't matter.
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>>143948530
Damn, now I feel bad for this.
I walked in front of her and she doesn't attack me.

I guess I'll have to hit her to get this over with.
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What makes abyssals worth farming harder bosses/savescumming for more than temperings from watchers?
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>>143948482
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>>143948979
Heavy Abyssals let me use a Burial Blade on my 50/25 strength build at little to no loss compared to a dedicated skill build.

Would 27.2% tempering gems let me have a build with a Whirligig and a Burial Blade? Fuck no.
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>watching spice and wolf
>mc is called Laurence
>best girl is practically Vicar Amelia
>mfw
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>>143949936
>Fukuyama
nah, that's anime Valtr
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Any good Maria sliders yet?
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>>143949746
It's more efficient to go past 50 vit than to put points in skill for a str build though
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>>143949746
Wouldn't you be missing out on boosting your str with a 17.2 when you're raising the scaling on skill with the abyssal?
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why does she wear the mask?
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>>143953020
Because she is VERMIN
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>>143953020
Because she has to be able to communicate with other people without them having the urge to fuck her lights out every five seconds
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>>143953020
What else are you going to do to an unkillable, immortal vampire?
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>>143953020
No one cared who she was until she put on the mask
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>go on /dsg/ to try and retain some kind of interest in DaS3
>everyone is jerking it to some faggot moaning on vocaroo

Dark Souls 3 was a mistake
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>>143950607
A cute!
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>>143942125
Patches is in a room on the ground floor of the lecture hall. You need to come in from the top floor to reach him, so if you're no there yet you'll get to him a bit later in the game
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>>143955313
I didn't realise how bad the place was until I hopped over to here.

I'm glad I picked up BB
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>>143948254
My pet theory is that it's the proximity of the moon that causes it, the closer the moon is the worse the scourge. It becomes a tug of war between Rom repelling the moon and Mensis beckoning it down.

Blood ministration might very well be a benign medicine without the moon in-atmosphere
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>>143958061
Rom was hiding the ritual, not fighting it
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>>143958295
He was fucking up the ritual by hiding the Blood Moon.
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>>143958295
True, and the scourge is only ever described as getting worse and worse, it still works.

Don't mind pic related, testing gifs
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>>143958436
>He
I mean she.
Fucking female eldritch spiders.
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With a BLT build, it sucks dick for this whole first half. How to you guys deal?
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>>143959462
Get to the second half as fast as possible.
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>>143959462
By rushing to chikage. In the meantime, get shit like vit, end and whatever skl/str stats you need in order.
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>>143959462
get the bowblade right after amelia
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>>143959462
it's not the build that succ, anon...
it's you
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How should i be playing my BT hunter pre chikage?
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>>143963809
Level vit and upgrade another weapon you like in the meantime i guess?
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>>143963809
Make sure you have the basic requirements to use chikage when you unlock it. In the meantime, level vit and end with the occasional investment into blt so its not super weak right off the bat. Also make sure you have enough materials to upgrade chikage once you unlock it. Getting past Loggy can be hard depending on your level but at the very worst you can summon from here.
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>>143965345
Yeah im pretty confident i can clear the castle but logarius is hard low level. I dont have to clear hemwick to use the monolith do i?
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>>143966214
I think you do, but even if you don't, you might as well since its close to the boss fight, plus it gives decent echoes and a semi-decent farming spot.
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>>143966214
You have to. But it's easy mode and a good opportunity to level up a bit.
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WACKETY WACK
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Shhh thread is sleeping
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>>143967680
GET IN MY SACK
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Can I get some tips for Orphan of Kos phase 2?

I can semi-reliably get through his first phase now but the moment those wings come out he just sodomises me
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>>143970537
Dodge his attacks and hit him until he dies.
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>>143971021
thanks senpai
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>>143970537
Why would you attack a grieving child?
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Have you crushed your daily quota of vermin today /bbg/?
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Do eye runes cause lanterns to drop gems more often?
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>>143973385
I think they can. If you plan to farm them for gems rather than chalice dungeons, might as well use them.
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>>143973556
Im just farming the hamlet lanterns before going into chalices. Just curios as towhether they affect item quality versus just drop rate chance
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>>143973750
I think they might get them to drop a bit more often but it won't stop you from getting an atk down or a -hp curse.
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>>143973750
It's just drop chance, not drop quality
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>>143973908
Yeah i meant moreso gems instead of bullets
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level 81 , where i should go and help?
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>>143974242
Mergo, ebby, maybe logarius, all the dlc bosses
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what's the lore behind undead giant's insane damage?

fuck this nigga holy shit fuck me i can't take this bitch nigga fuck
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>>143940336
Mergo
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>>143975445
Hes a big beautiful retard.
Is it the ball and chain one?
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>>143975749
yeah
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>>143971782
Accursed brew and kos parasite.
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>>143975795
Just gotta take it slow and never get greedy. I know its not much help but he always shits on me too.
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>>143976073
yeah i know man, just venting
wish the chalice dungeons didn't suck, they sounded like such a cool idea on paper
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>>143943935
>female
>STR
keks
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>>143958061
Acording to this pic Henryk is the Bloody Crow?
WTF is going on?
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>>143948254
Anyone who has ministered blood can become a beast on a night of the hunt (a full moon I guess, once a month), but you're protected from it by the messengers. That's what the intro cutscene with the burning wolf in the clinic was all about.

>>143958061
>My pet theory is that it's the proximity of the moon that causes it, the closer the moon is the worse the scourge
That's what I tend to believe as well, but then why does MP send you to kill Rom? Is it because MP's ultimate goal is to have you kill Mergo, and you can only access the Nightmare of Mensis when the moon is close?

>>143976073
>Just gotta take it slow and never get greedy
Or stand outside his range with a Beast Cutter and spam transformed R2s.
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>>143976367
No, Henryk is Eileen's target before the red moon and the crow is her target during the red moon.
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>>143976415
How is killing his Wet Nurse kill Mergo?
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>>143976467
Because she's Eileen in case you didn't notice.
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>>143976467
The "nightmare slain" message doesn't come up when you kill the Wet Nurse, you have to wait 10 seconds until the crying stops. I think the implication is that Mergo is the real target and Wet Nurse just gets in your way.

>>143976559
Cut that shit out.
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>vit 43
>arcane 50
what now, wanted to get vit to 45 but i'm not even sure anymore
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>ATK down
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Anyone need help with anything before i start the chalice grind
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>>143977405
Why does this shit even exist
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Could we get to pick a theme for the next FC? It's been fun so far but I want to try out something new instead of regular boring PvP builds

Something crazy and silly
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>>143979481
>not using goofy builds in the FC anyway
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>>143976730
WHEN IN DOUBT, MORE ARCANE
WHEN NOT IN DOUBT, MORE ARCANE
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>>143981878
>That doujin
nice
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What's the best lvl meta and why is it 50?
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>>143977405
>>143978087
>mfw arcane build
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GTFO MY BRIDGE YOU FUCKING HUNTERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>>143982948
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Normally this meme gets under my skin but it's extremely relevant considering it's the one thing he does.
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>>143982948
Why did the first boss take the best song of the game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSk8-pJkX8
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>>143983265
Gotta start out strong.

The soundtrack is great throughout, but CB's really gets the blood pumping.
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>>143983265
>not posting the best version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHIkUzmNmc0
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>>143983460
It's literally the same.
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>Come back to check on bbg after 6 months
>Tripfag ran it to the ground
>Cancer everywhere

Back to dreaming.
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>>143983539
the video is not
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>A bloodborne general
Holy shit I never thought I'd see the day in times like this with DS3.
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>>143983936
Not sure what you're talking about, there are exactly four tripfag posts and no shitposting.
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>>143984025
We've been around since the game release.
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>>143959462
In my run, I just ended up running around with a +6 Saw Spear and a +0 Hunter's Axe until I got the Chikage. I got Vit/End and Skl to 25 and had a good bit of BLT maybe like 20 or so before getting to Cainhurst. I don't rush and I take my time because BB never gets old for me
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Underrated bosses:
Laurence
Living Failures
Pthumerian Elder
Queen Yharnam
Watchdog

Overrated bosses:
Lady Maria
Amygdala
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>>143984227
I was under the impression that Bloodborne completely died in the times of DS's release. I bought the game around the same time DS3 i had almost no one resonating with me in all levels and had no invades ever
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>>143984518
>End and Skl to 25
>BLT build
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>>143984721
i don't see a problem with hitting the soft cap
but that might just be because i'm a shitter
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>>143984681
Pvp is still active in Mensis and the DLC areas.
We also have a fight club, read the OP if you want to participate.
As for co-op, there's always someone ringing for Ludwig, Orphan, Logarius and Chalice bosses.
When DS3 was released /bbg/ was slower than ever, but everyone is coming back.
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Anyone else playing Blood and Wine?

So far it's underwhelming as fuck, most of the enemies are reskins, weapons are generic (but that's expected, you use swords after all) and the quests are the same formulaic Witcher sense bullshit

I might replay Bloodborne and take a break.
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>>143984681
Im getting summoned all over the dlc right now.
Plebbit still has hizzngr3 and a private fc.
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>>143985461
Witcher is for girls
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>>143985461
Fuck off.
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>>143985897
more like bitcher mirite?
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>>143985917

wewwwwwwwwwwww

No need to be mean anon
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>>143987380
youre posting about the witcher 3 in bbg, you can fuck off
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>>143987528

You can fuck off you little nigger
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What wheel is best for a str/arc build.
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>>143988185
lost
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>>143983460
I don't know if the soundtrack becomes better or worse knowing that the chorus looks like it's made up of people you'd find at walmart
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>>143989240
i know i kind of regret watching that
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>>143953020
If I pull that off will she die?
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>>143983265
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCDEDi5gDPo
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>>143955313
Give me an archive link please, I need to see this shit for myself.
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I got 98 problems but my level ain't one.
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>>143989421
>mfw no turbo-sperg has stepped up to the plate of translating the lyrics in full yet
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>>143979551
What do you mean by a theme? You could always do a gimmick build, or get a cooperator in on a gimmick!
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>>143984681
You have to opt-in to getting invaded except in Mensis and the Nightmare Frontier.
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>>143990254
>>143984681

If you want to get invaded without invading yourself, just ring the sinister bell then use the silencing blank to cancel it. This way the enemy that allows you to be invaded will still spawn.
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>>143989421
>>143983265

Forgetting the two Mensis bosses?
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Does the tricked Stake Driver actually deal thrust damage? Because it ain't doing shit to the ayys.
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>>143953020
because feminist like anita sarkeesian.
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post yfw when bb2 gets revealed in 2 weeks.
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>>143991865
Nope.
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>>143992761
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65 bold hunter marks on one shotgun watchet in isz... Got one bt waning 31.5 with ATK DOWN and out of shape bt scaling up.

Should i try farming BSB for stronger bloodtinge gems?
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>>143982362
>thnking an arc build keeps you safe from the mighty dick of RNGesus
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>>143993093
>65
Anon, you're in for a ride

I'm a little shocked no one has savescummed root dungeons in order to find a more accessible shotgun watcher
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Question here.

So, the point of going to the hunters dream and take the role of a hunter is to kill Mergo, am I right?

But why Moon Presence wants to kill Mergo? Angry whit old ones? Just doing it for fun?

Also, where is Mergo? Why when you kill the wet nurse he/she dies seconds later? Who is the wet nurse anyways? How did she take Mergo? Why are they at Mensis?

This is the only point not explained at all in all the game and is one (if not the most) important things (it's your main goal after all).

This game needs another dlc or a second part.
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Someone post that Coldsteel edit with Crowsteel.
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>>143994584
It's the purpose of that particular hunt. No one knows if Moon Presence really wants anything other than a surrogate child, and if everything else about the dream is just MP's surrogate being who he is. The Mensis Nightmare was created through beckoning Mergo. Wetnurse is shielding Mergo with her body.
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Anyone up for some Ludwig?
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>>143995338
Pass?
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>>143995469
ludwig
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>>143995745
I'm tagging along too
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>>143995112
So Micolash entered in contact with Mergo through that cage thing?
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>>143996140
Don't think too hard about it. Just go out and kill a few beasts.
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>>143996140
They took Mergo from queen Yharnam.
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>>143994584
>This game needs another dlc or a second part.

No.
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>>143995745
Still ringing?
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>>143995745
>Lost connection

WHAT!?
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>>143996361
It definitely needs another DLC.
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>>143993916
I think i might bite the bullet as ive practically maxed out mats.
Ive red that red aura shotgun watchers can appear as well in isz.
Ill report back if i find anything.

Holy shit some people on reddit have farmed them for 1200 times and got 20 oos gems...
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>>143996140
Mensis beckoned Mergo collectively and had their brains stillbirthed
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>>143996361
>>143996456
Did old hunters feel like it was church based dlc? Especially with str arc build buffs and lotsa church based weapons.
Vileblood or powder keg dlc when?
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>>143996454
My power went out. I live in a place where even the lightest drizzle or the gentlest of winds knocks off my electricity. Posting from my phone by the way. I'll try again later.
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Shh, the doll is sleeping. If you want to level up, come back later.
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>>143996667
Nah, Byrgenwerth is also a big part of the story of TOH.
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>>143996898
Time to level up
Therefore you must accept wake
[roar]
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>>143994584
Possibly it's to kill Mergo. It might also be that killing the Wet Nurse and slaying the Nightmare doesn't necessarily kill Mergo but simply frees him to return to whatever realm the Great Ones ascended to.

There's tons of evidence to speculate but nothing concrete. Perhaps MP wants Mergo dead because it's a hybrid. Perhaps MP is drawn to Mergo because it wants a child and sends you to do its bidding. Perhaps Gehrman is the surrogate child and Moon Presence is simply trying to please him (ending one of the biggest sources of beasthood and what's happening to Yharnam, since Gehrman simply wants it all to be over and done). We cannot fathom its will entirely.

All evidence points to Mergo being formless, and as such is speculated to be the child of Oedon. I don't think we can really say what the Wet Nurse is beyond the fact it's a Great One. Perhaps like the Brain of Mensis it's something beckoned or created by the School and is helping them for its own purpose. Perhaps it's something the Pthumerians created or beckoned to protect Mergo and it went rogue. Perhaps it's a mere slave, supposedly like the lesser Amygdalas.

>>143996140
The School of Mensis used an umbilical cord, just like Gehrman. To whit,

>Every Great One loses its child, and then yearns for a surrogate. This Cord granted Mensis audience with Mergo, but resulted in the stillbirth of their brains.
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So I decided to make a build with 35 vit and 90 arcane. How absolutely fucked am I?

What weapons should I use?
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>>143996667
It was the church DLC for the most part. We really should have had a Cainhurst DLC on top of it.
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>>143997102
>but resulted in the stillbirth of their brains
That's a mistranslation, the original text says "but resulted in the brain's stillbirth".
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>>143997319
>the brain's

Whose brain?
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Anyone wanna do some chalice diving?
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>>143997364
Probably the giant one in the Nightmare of Mensis, the living string description also says something similar.
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>>143997539
I always assumed that brain was what happened to the School of Mensis. You've got the handful who are spiders (I imagine turning into lesser Amygdalas) but aside from that there's only Micolash in there. I thought the rest of them became the brain, given the stillbirth.
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>>143996276
I don't think so, the game puts this pthumerian and dungeons thing like something that took ages before hunters time-line.

Is more like Mergo came out through Yharnam belly, she died, then with his insight he entered in this cosmos/planes shit, and then time later Micolash entered in contact with Mergo in Yahar'gul.
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>>143997171
Kos parasite duh
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>>143997102
Yeah, but this is my point, intentional or not they don't explain nothing about MP/Mergo/Wet Nurse.

I don't know, i like this free interpretation things, but man, this is all the fucking end point of the game and it's not explained at all, not even a hint.

In bloodborne world terms is not really important, but like the player main adventure it is.
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>>143998883
Would the burial blade work on a pure arcane build?
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>>143999150
Never use split damage weapons on arc builds unless they're HMS, Wheel or Tonitrus.
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>>143999137
Yeah but that's the very nature of Great Ones and eldritch beings. We're not supposed to understand them, only know they're there and try our best without ever succeeding, or knowing if we've succeeded. This is why we fear them, and have done since the first of their kind were conceived.

Either way you know as much as you need to know to make the final choice that needs to be made.
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>>143999150
Also arCane and fire sawspear are recommended until you get the parasite.
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What level should I be to go through the Nightmare of Mensis? Because I'm level 85 yet everything is really intimidating and I'm wondering if I should grind and come back.
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>>144000153
What gems are you using?
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>>144000153
Almost a bit over levelled.
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>>143999137
Why do they even need to explain it?

You go through the game looking for Paleblood, and no matter what route you take you find it, it just turns out to not be blood at all, and what it actually is you know more about than you really ought to in a Lovecraft story to begin with.
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>>144000503
Maybe I'm just rusty because I took a break from the game for a while.
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>>144000153
Nightmare of mensis isn't that bad once you get through the front gate and away from the fucking brain of mensis
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How much stronger are the bt gems from bsb in a frc lower loran?
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>try to help people with maria/kos/ludwing
>its laggying so fucking much i die all the time
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>>143976210
And?
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>>144004572
With the same amount of workout a man would achieve better results.
Also females have weaker bones compared to males.
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That paleblood hunt paper is pretty garbage.
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i don't understand how people can beat rom without taking out the spiders first
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>>144007082
You just need to __________git__________gud__________
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What does the yellow, sometimes black dot under your vials/bullets mean?
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>>144001932
DS2 has boob jiggle? Huh.
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>>144007767
It means that your weapon is in its transformed/untransformed form.
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>>144007767
It's a hud indicator to show whether or not your weapon is tricked.
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>>144007082
I dont understand how you can stand killing all those hp sponges.
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>>144008120
>HP sponges
>hitting them in the face
>ever
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Ok, my power is back. Who wants to help me out with Ludwig?
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>>144008754
pass is ludwig by the way.
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>>144009012
omw
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>>144009012
ill join as well
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>>144009012
I'm coming too
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Best spot to farm chunks?
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>>144009685
Farm them as you're farming gems or just go to another NG cycle
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>>143992761
Why do you people WANT miyazaki to whore out a solid game?

We already know any game he makes with similar gameplay will be excellent, and all sequels do is fuck up the story of the original.
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Only one anon has been summoned so far for ludwig.
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>>144009685
blue-eye wolfbeasts in upper cathedral ward
don't get succd too hard tho :^)
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>>144010190
What's your password? I'll be there in a few minutes.
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already dead
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>>144010680
meant for>>144010579
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>>144010838
Give me a password anyway, I'd like to help for the following area.
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Should I alter anything here?
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>>144011130
Your gay name.
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>>144008120
Wow you're bad at games.
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>>144011130
Move Strength to max out Endurance, it's a wonder he's been here for so long.
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Which version of holy moonlight sword is the best one for an arcane focused build?
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>>144011130
>Wooden Shield
>Doll Attire
>Lucifer
This is bait, right?
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>>144011130
I think you meant to put 50 arc
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>>144011050
Ok, pass is still ludwig, I'll ring right after him in case anyone wants to play the next area. I might fuck up and die since it's the first time I traverse through this zone.
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>>144011319
I usually get all versions of a weapon then go farm, you might end up with some useful off shape gems.
Obv i only +6 and compare ars before leveling it to +10
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>>144011319
Lost
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>>144011460
Do it yourself bitch
Dont you like videogames?
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>>144011130
>>144011174
>>144011258
>>144011340
>>144011354

Thanks for the suggestions.

I think I'm gonna settle for pic related. gonna be a BITCH to get the gems though
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>>144011460
Alright, ringing.
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>>144011680
Hey he wanted to play the game with me, I usually don't like calling people before I fully explore a zone. It makes me feel like if I have to hurry for their sake.
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>>144011771
you should've just told us you were making a build for DS2 anon
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>>144011680
Chill out, man. Playing video games with other people is fun sometimes, give it a shot. >>144011861
I just want to play some of the game again, I started the DLC on NG+3 and the rest of the game is tough as balls. No need to rush on my account.
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So just so I can be sure and not have to delete a character after 100 hours again, how badly will this get me fucked up?
What should I move around?
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>>144012265
Change Level to 117 and you should be set.
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>>144011861
Those two hunter-types were mostly why I wanted to help. Fighting them at the same time is apparently mandatory and especially hard.
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>>144012371
no memes please
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I'm really loving this fight vs the Orphan of Kos but I'm not liking the fact that I have to leave the fight and farm up echoes in the lecture hall every so often when I run out of vials.

Like this guy's slapping my shit harder than anything else in the game so far and I want to keep going into it over and over instead of being forced to grind every half a dozen or so attempts
>>
can fist of gratia parry?
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>>144012883
Do you want help?
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>>144012265
What weapons are you aiming to use?
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>>144012871
Then why are you 98?
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>>144012265
Seems solid, just check the requirements of the str weapons so that you don't get fucked by your low skill.
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>>144012883
Go grind super hard and go in with a few hundred vials/bullets then

If you've got any lower chalices open it takes no time at all to get enough sou-- bloods to makes out your supplies. The Orhpan fight is definitely one of my favorite in the series. Can't wait for him to smack my shit on NG+++
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>>144013012
strength stuff
pizzacutter, amygdalan arm, wheel, cannon, gatling gun, boom hammer
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>>144013090
Serious question: how the FUCK did the meta meme end up with 98 for this game? Why not at least do 100 so it doesn't look retarded?
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>Playstation 4.5
And I know you faggots will buy it, as the cucks you are
Go on, keep helping an greedy company who exploit their clients to ruin the gaming industry even more
>>
>>144013009
Thank you for the offer but I'm having alot of fun despite getting killed a bunch. Is there a faster place to grab echoes for blood vials than the lecture hall though?

I'd love to just have a couple hundred vials in the bank so I don't have to worry about it

>>144013152
Yeah that's what I was thinking too. Are chalices good for farming blood then? I think I've finished 3 of them so far
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>>144012883
>lecture hall
can't you just go into Isz and ruin the little ayy parade in the big room for like 200k+?
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How do you keep disappearing torbi?
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>>144013374
Thanks, will do.
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>>144012145
>>144011861
Pussies.
Co oped the whole ng+ for laffs.
Try to do ng yourself if its your first pt for THE MAGIC.
Also
>>144012451
>too hard
>>
Which weapons are genuinely not worth using?
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>>144013332
Because at level 98 then you won't connect with BL120 shitters.
Hence why the max recommended level is 117 since that's the highest 98 can connect to.
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>>144013406
Start doing the chalices now otherwise the early ones will suck tons of ass later when you're super overlevelled for them.

Once you get to the higher level chalice dungeons (besides getting raped repeatedly by ridiculous bosses) you'll have way more echoes than you know what to do with.

I can throw the Moon runes on and go clear a single room to grab 200k if I need to.
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>>144013585
Boom Hammer and Fist of Gratia.
Everything else is fine.
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>have to play offline until I get my pay
>no bloodstains, no ghosts
>need to watch shitty twitch streams while playing so I would not feel so lonely
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>>144013374
Sorry Blood and Wine was more memes than substance, anon
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>>144012930
no
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>>144013663
Aaaaand 120 are "shitters" because...?
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>>144013737
>>>/r9k/
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why did people start using "BL" anyway
like I get that it was called SL back in demon's souls and bloodborne slaps "blood" onto everything but it just seems silly
>>
>>144013332
>>144013663
Because at 100 you can find people who have leveled up to 120. At 99 you don't find those people. 98 allows you to avoid people who level up to 120 and also allows you to invade those at level 80.

>>144013843
Elitism.
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>>144013527
i was still at the bottom
the elevator wouldnt go up
i'm re-ringing at the lamp

>btw we refer to eachother by our characters names cuz you know 'anon' and stuff
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>>144013843
Because BL120 is too high and gives you access to too many things at your disposal.
If 120 is acceptable to you then we all might as well go up to 544.
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>>144013901
How is it silly?
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>>144013578
Cooperator here. I did NG by myself for the magic, but I don't mind helping others if they're open to it.
And I said especially hard, not too hard. I never implied they weren't manageable.
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>>144014051
What a radical, elitist logic you have there.
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>>144014062
Because he associates the word blood primarily with edgy teenagers. Just another pointless facet of american culture.
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>>144013542
Don't forget to buy this shit as well
It only has one game, but you may be accustomed to this
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>>144014051
BL98 is too high and gives you access to too many things at your disposal, you should stop at 50.
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>>144012883
Go to the spot right between Mergo's Middle Loft and the Wet Nurse boss room. The three Shadows and three boars net over 70 K echoes with the right runes equipped
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>>144014251
Ordered
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>>144014251
Stop spreading this misinformation. It has 2 games.
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>>144014251
Wow that looks cool, I'll put that next to my PSTV
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>>144014267
>50
Why do you want to ruin the game by playing it in easy-mode?
BL50 is too high and gives you access to too many things at your disposal, you shouldn't level up at all and neither should you upgrade your weapons, use gems or use any gear but the Doll attire.
Fucking casuals.
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>>144014267
BL50 is too high and gives you access to too many things at your disposal, you should stop at 4.
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>>144014480
>actually using armor or clothes at all
Casual, get the fuck out of here.
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>>144014228
Pepole who are obsessed with "edgy" need to put their computer in the closed and never touch it for at least two months.
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>>144014606
>for at least two months
But how would these people get through their classes
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>>144014565
Shut up, you probably use weapons and didn't break your joystick's R2 to prevent you from ever using charged or visceral attacks.
>>
what the fuck is the point of the beast cutter
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>>144014870
Cutting Beasts. You're not the brightest lad, are you?
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>>144014870
for fucking people up in /bbg/'s FCs
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>>144013954
So basically the whole thing can be summed up as autism.

>>144014043
>>btw we refer to eachother by our characters names cuz you know 'anon' and stuff

u shud trip its sooo gud and then everyone cares abut who u are and stuff
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>>144014978
>Cut beasts
>Full blunt damage
How this work?
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>>144014870
To be a hipster that uses his very unique epic weapon
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>>144015296
It's serrated in both forms.
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>>144015347
You're right, we should all only use saif and rakuyo
play2win
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>>144015375
Are you talking about the weapon model?
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>>144015535
No
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Serrated+Weapons
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>>144015667
>fextralife
Wew
Talking about reliable sources
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>>144015873
The existence of the serrated bonus in Bloodborne is common knowledge.
Are you new?
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>>144016025
>Are you new?
That's my line
P.S. that shit don't have any hidden damage, stop being autist fextraboy
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>>144016378
Test it yourself then.
I'm not trying to attack you, no need to get hysterical.
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>>144016508
nigga this is 4chan, everyone needs to be super hostile all the time

wut r u from(soft haha) readit or somethung?
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>>144011198
>>144008183
Well sorry. I guess I never really had a problem dodging the little spiders and just killing Rom, so I never put much thought into killing them.
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>>144016508
I wasn't mad before you tried to pretend I'm mad, that makes me mad and now i'm mad
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>>144004572
>>144004868
Maybe, but she most likely stronger than any of you, and she is a QT3.14 to boot. I would also prefer looking a cute girl for the dozens to hundreds of hours I will be playing the character.

Not to mention Gratia from the lore.
>>
Ok which of the talking patients in the research hall have anything useful? I kinda accidentally killed all the ones inside a room begging for death while I was fighting a big patient that wielded an IV pole and I also killed one looking at a flower since I could target it. Shouls I kill plip plop?
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>>144017345
>dozens to hundreds of hours I will be playing the character.

>implying you ever stop shitposting long enough to actually play the game
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>>143950607
Maria is a birthday cake.
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>>143989389
It would be extremely revealing.
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>>144017627
Only the fat heads in the highest part of the hall.
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>>144017965
So I should kill Plip Plop?
>>
Huh

looks like you can use BMA on the flamesprayer

is that as huge a waste of the bma as it seems like?
>>
>>144017721
see:

>>143938824
>>
FUCK YOU ORPHAN
FUCK YOU
I'LL PUNCH IN YOUR FUCKING ROTTEN TEETH YOU SCREECHING LITTLE SHITHEAD
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>>144018998
EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

ERAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>144018851

Posting some random shitter's webm doesn't mean shit you retard.

>>144018998
I love the way Orphan's attacks are designed to anticipate your attempt to dodge the previous one.
>>
>>144019136
>>144019172
fuck that guy, I was only one hit from wasting his shit when he suddenly jumped and did the whole TELEPORTS BEHIND YOU
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>>144019172
I love the way I got good and solo'd him.
Dunno how I pulled that off.
I should've died desu senpai but my inner gudness prevailed
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>>144019323
After getting annihilated by him the first few times I knew I'd never forgive myself if I summoned for him. Sometimes you just gotta git gud.
>>
>no new DLC, patch or anything
I finished the game months ago, kinda want to go back but the lack of anything new sets me off
>>
>>144018998
GET OFF MY BEACH
>>
What's Iosefka' Blood Vial doing next to the Wet Nurse boss room?
>>
I thought I heard people complaining about Micolash being difficult but he was the easiest boss in the game so far.

In your opinion, /bbg/, who is the hardest boss and who is the easiest boss main game + DLC only?
>>
You know it sucks to say this, after all the good times I had with /bbg/, but I don't think I like Bloodborne all that much anymore. At least not the main game. Nothing, to me, is as appealing as the Old Hunters.
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>>144020484
Orphan is the hardest, Celestial Emissary is the easiest.
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>>144020484
Hardest bosses:
Orphan of Kos
Pthumerian Descendant

Easiest bosses:
Loran Silverbeast
Vicar Amelia
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>>144020484
Easiest: The Witch of Hemwick (No contest)
Hardest: Orphan of Kos
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>>144020484
>HOLY FUCK HARD
>Amygdala in defiled (FUCK THIS THING)
>Orphan
>Ludwig
>Laurence
>Bloodletting Beasts

EASY
>failures
>AYYLMAOS
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>>144020484
None of the beasts are really that hard. Bloodstarved Beast is up there. I guess Paarl too, he can be a bit of a pain the ass. Gascoigne is difficult, but if you've got parrying down pat, you can breeze through him. And really, that's what he's for, teaching you how to parry. Gehrman's hard, but not overbearingly so. You can fuck him up pretty good if you've gone through the rest of Bloodborne thus far.

Really, the hardest bosses don't exist in the Main Game. It's Ludwig, Maria, Laurence and the Orphan that are the most challenging from a one on one perspective.
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>>144020484
NG+ he can be a bit bullshit sometimes.

Hardest:
Ebby-chan or -defiled- Amy if that counts. Normal amy is a pushover.
DLC: Laurence for sheer bullshit.

Easiest:
Witches
DLC: Living Failures
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>>144019860
Just from some hunter who died up there perhaps.

Does seem a bit significant for it to be placed there though...

>>144020676
Go play DS3 a bunch.

Then play BB, *properly* (exploring everywhere, not skipping dialogue, etc.).

You'll appreciate it a lot more.
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>>144020685
Celestial Emissary has some good potential to give you an action-packed trip to Detroit if you're not careful though. Witch of Hemwick or Amelia is way easier
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>>144020925
>None of the beasts are really that hard
Abhorrent beast is hard, he's like Flamelurker on steroids.
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>>144020925
>Bloodstarved Beast is up there
Nigga he's the easiest beast. You can literally just walk around all of his attacks.
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>>144021134
>Abhorrent beast
I found it so easy on my first try
>dodge left, attack, dodge left, attack, dodge left, attack, dodge left, attack
defiled hot dog and amy teared me a new one each
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>>144020484
>main game + DLC only

That's literally everything.

Unless you mean no chalices? Which is stupid because then you might as well exclude ALL the optional bosses, which is most of them. There are only seven bosses you actually have to fight to beat the game.
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Is there any downside to just killing Simon myself?
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>>144021870
No, he doesn't do anything.
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fuck whoever was the faggot that came up with the shark men
they are complete fucking bullshit, can you even parry or stun them?
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>>144021870
If you got all his dialogue
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>>144021870
Being a massive fucking faggot for one.
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>>144022124
yes, you fucking shitter
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>>144022124
You can do both
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>>144022124
>can you even parry or stun them?

Yes, but it's way too fucking difficult.
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>>144022124
Yes you can, doesn't make them a whole lot less bullshit but it helps. God help you if they have an anchor.
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>>144022351
>God help you if they have an anchor.
this is the absolute worse one
wat were they thinking?
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>>144022351
The one without the anchor isn't hard.
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Can't you just use shaman bone blade on sharks?
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>>144020484
Main Game: Bribri because of the charge
Chalices: Depth 5 HMPH
DLC: Ludwig was the boss that killed me more than any of the others. Got Orphan in 2 tries and Laurence in 1 try.

Overall: Depth 5 HMPH

>>144019172
>damage control
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>>144022474
The dive/tackle flail is pretty fucking bullshit.
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>>144022439
Give us a THrillLAH
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>>144022439
>hey you know the people that play our games?
>yeah why?
>fuck those guys lmao
>lol
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>>144022124
Street sharks are fine and provide a challenging and fun mob enemy which is rare in BB

The guy that gave the greenlight on bell spiders is another fucking story
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>>144022876
WHY IS THERE A ROOM FULL OF FUCKING SPIDERS

WHY IS THERE A GIANT FUCKING SPIDER

FROM PLS
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>>144020484
>hardest
Orphan
>Easiest
Cleric

>>144022563
>bribri because of the charge
You what
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>>144022876
>bell spiders
oh yeah fuck those too
one of the chalice dungeons is full of those fuckers and if you open all the doors they immediately go straight after you despite being like 10 rooms away
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>>144023297
Ebrietas' charge is the hardest attack to dodge
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>>144023462
it's really not
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>>144023602
Then which one is the hardest?
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>>144023462
That charge is slow as fuck and she spends like a whole minute winding it up. you have plenty of time to get out of the way
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>>144023631
Fatman roll
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>>144023752
As long as you don't try to visceral that its fine, just dodge into him which is fucking silly considering
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>>144023462
>>144023602
The charge is really easily to dodge if you are using the "bait a head slam" strategy. If you are trying to fight her up close and personal then it is annoying to deal with.
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>tfw Byrgenworth's password is literally their motto
>not something secure like )h3*7N$K=5U{f'-If9}_K:bHLwGJ+:M'

What a bunch of dumbshits.
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>>144024834
So you know the proper strategy but you're retarded enough to ignore it and then complain the boss is too hard?
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>>144020484
>Hardest

Hotdog. I had to summon Bee Movie for that fucker, yet I beat Maria, Orphan of Kos, and the defiled Amygdala solo.
Everyone makes him seem easy.
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>>144025668
>What's the hardest boss?
>gives answer
>OMG Y U COMPLANE ABOOT BAWS BN 2HURD?!!!11ONE

Are you literally retarded?
>>
finally read the paleblood hunt
thought the guys interpretation was brilliant and is now my headcanon too
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>>144026567
Where do I read this?
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>>144026187
You gave a reason for the boss being the hardest then promptly explained why that hard move was trivial to dodge
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>>144026676
google paleblood hunt finalized, it's the google docs link
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>>144026676
Don't do it, it's garbage
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So I just got my second email from sony for platting BB, but it just says congrats for platting.

Is the theme still a thing?
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>>144026979
you get a theme or something? I plat that shit last January and got squatshit for it
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>>144026831
Only individual with redditor syndrome may think that it's good
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>>144026819
No, I just explained how to mitigate the risk.
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>>144027378
it was a thing for eurocucks only
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>>144026567
>paleblood hunt
>107 fanfiction shit tier gibberish by one guy from reddit
JUST
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>>144027794
At least he separated the parts that are his headcanon. It's nice to read the other stuff all in one place.
>>
What's in simon's bag?
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>>144027794
>look it up
>find reddit
>click link, find a link to his finalized version
>read the beginning

>I didn't really like Dark Souls

And dropped.
I don't wanna read some faggot redditor's blog.
I wanted more LORE.
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>>144028293
Food
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>>144028293
His testicles.
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>beat Gehrman last night
>also beat that joke moon presence
>"alright, now Im ready to do the dlc"
>get kicked into NG+ automatically

Well this fucking blows. I guess I'm going to make a new character since I don't want to do NG+ especially since I went pretty much pure strength and I found it kind of boring by the end. Should I make a dex character or go arcane so I can become a mushroom squid?
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>>144029697
NG+ and NG++ are literally nothing, the difference is barely noticeable.
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>IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
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>>144029697
I literally played up to Gehrman, quit, make new character and went through the game again.
It's pretty short if you remember how to get everywhere and when you git gud the bosses don't give you as much of a problem the first time around.
The ayy lmao transformation is personally my favorite and the weapon is fun.
I was a STR character, and never really got to fully enjoy it.
I did upgrade to +9 and use it.
The great thing about that weapon is it can stunlock enemies in your combo.
Big guys that hit hard, I can just do an R1 combo while they can't even attack.
Get more stamina and R1 spam again while they're stun locked.
I can also hit through walls so you can cheese certain enemies.
Go for it, I fucking loved being ayy lmao.
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>>144026567
>>144026831
>>144027794

I disagree with a bunch of his stuff, but there's some good ideas and observations in there, and he's courteous enough to separate his headcanon from his observations.
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>The blood makes us human, makes us more than human, makes us human no more.

>We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood.

Which version of the old adage do you prefer?
>>
So how are you supposed to not get hit by the hunters with whips in the Hunters Nightmare? I must be shit or something. Do I just gotta parry them?
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>>144032302
Are there different translations for different regions or something?

The second clause is an important difference between the two there.
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>>144032302
>made men by the blood
>no mention of strong, independent females
Triggered. Take that sexist crap out of here.
>>
beating ludwig with the wheel is nearly impossible theres like two attacks he can do in phase 2 that actually can be punished without you getting hit. this is my third character I got him second try with my chikage build now this fuck has killed me over a dozen times because

the WHEEL is BAD
>>
>>144030410
Poor Yharnamites should've built a wall to keep those lousy offcomers out.
>>
>>144032572
they mean basically the same thing, the first one was probably translated and written for the trailer it's in, and the final one as a rewrite for the release
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>>144032984
You take that back.
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>>144033258
"Made Men" and "Made more than human" is an important distinction in a game where the balance between beasthood, humanity, and transcendence is the dominant theme.
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>>144032984
W H E E L Y O U S H U T U P ?
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Where the hell do I raise the stairs in the research hall? I've made it up to the very top and haven't found whatever triggers it.
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>>144035375
By very top you mean the rafters, right? In the center (at the top of the staircase contraption) there's a lever.
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>>144035375
There's a push lever on the big circle platform in the middle.
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>>144032527
Yes. Also stay very close.
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I HATE THESE FUCKERS SO MUCH
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>>144036419
LA LA LAAA~
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Ludwig's ceiling drop attack is just plain broken.

The hitbox is stupid.
It one-hit KOs.
It's broken crap.
>>
Plip Plop Plip Plop
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>>144037294
No, it's not. When he jumps, just pick a direction and sprint in a straight line. It will miss every times (assuming you don't go full retard and run behind someone else).
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>>144037446
The boss room is only so big.

You're saying if my stamina isn't full when he jumps or he pins me up on those stairs I'm going to die?

Because that's still stupid.
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>>144013663
98 can invade 120. It was made to stay away from 150.
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>>144037294
Start running and don't stop, it'll most likely miss you
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>>144037612
Ignore him; he writes some bullshit like that any time anyone says anything in the game isn't as easy as jerking off.
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>>144037612
If you are up on the stairs you have plenty of time and an entire room to use to your advantage. Just sprint back towards the fog gate. This isn't rocket surgery.

>>144013332
>can invade down to people running Mensis (lv80)
>ban be summoned by a low as level 65s without a password
>can play with 120ers
>can avoid 150 shitters
>high enough for a finished build
>low enough to promote choices and prevent homogenization of builds
etc.

>>144038273
It is retardedly easy to avoid. And most of my vermin come from carrying shitters through that fight. I even helped out regulars from here with it.
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>>144038597
You're so cool.

Ludwig is so easy for you.
I bet lots of women fuck you because you're so good at Bloodborne.
>>
Man it was a pain in the ass to explore every single corner of the research hall and gather all item. The vertical layout of the level reminded me of the tower of latria. I'll deal with Maria-chan tomorrow.
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>>144038776
>implying he even plays bloodborne instead of just shitposting about it
>>
>>144038776
>You're so cool.
I'm glad we're finally on the same page. Moving on . . .
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>>144038776
He's right about the jump attack.
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>>144020484
Easiest so far for me is Witches of Hemwick no Insight or Amygdala.
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>>144039036
samefagging is so summer
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Anyone mind helping with defiled Amy? Im getting really close but the attempts take so long just bopping its head. Ringing outside the fog, pass is bbg.
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>>144038597
DELETE THIS

God that first build was a massive fucking trainwreck.
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>>144039036
Nah it's shit, like a number of other shitty attacks and enemies in the game.

Ain't nobody pretends like Frenzy is well thought out.
Munching vials is too easy.
The hitbox on Ludwig's drop is nonsense, and it 1HKOs.
>>
>>144039187
>DELETE THIS
Why?
>>
>trying to find most optimal weapon for skill build
>been using saw spear all game
>has 517 AR with 3x 19% gems
>get Rakuyo, spend all materials getting it to +10
>only has 422 with 19% gems
god fucking damn it, am i stuck with saw spear forever
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>>144039691
Saif + Rakuyo is rape mode.
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>>144039779
I'll get saif, but i have to farm chunks and shit now
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Do it. Post em.

https://www.captionbot.ai/
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Hey /bbg/, what are some cool songs to listen too while I'm grinding chalice dungeons?
They seem oddly silent and it's freaking me out.
Also, anybody know where to grind components for Ailing Loran Chalice?
>>
>>144040214

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxRZt3HTXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyUMHEua7-A
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>>144040007
Yeah I don't think my insight is as high as this AI's
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>>144040214
https://youtu.be/ggHpZE2W-rs

^seems to fix chalice gem farming
>>
Any good place to find character slidersthat isn't the reddit thing? That place's fucking dead.
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>>144040489
Lmao is this what Orphans listen to?
>>
>>144040214
https://youtu.be/hIR1KfKXH6s

https://youtu.be/-P7fBUDkb90

https://youtu.be/a4mQxGXxU2M

https://youtu.be/2bGXbFo6n5o
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>>144040686
http://imgur.com/a/IghZ1#22
http://imgur.com/a/Adrr7

>>144040886
Yes, that's why he is so angry when you fight him. :^)
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>>144040886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgex1ukrsko
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>>144041003
Oh perfect I always wanted a BB character that looked like a fucking tranny
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>>144040468
Kek
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>>144041003
Thanks but those aren't really what I'm looking for.
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>>144041254
Good luck then. If nothing else, they can provide you with a nice base to work from.
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>>144041407
Man, how did you get Miyazaki to feature you as a Bloodborne boss TWICE, Lucy? Not fair, I wanna be a Bloodborne boss too >:^(
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>>144037157
their song reminds me of the AI in MGS Peace Walker
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>>144041556
kek
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>>144040468
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>>144032984
Wheel is fine, you're bad.
>>
>Witch needs to be dead for Cainhurst whores to appear at the crossing.

What sort of linear bullshit is this I might as well play DS3.
>>
>>144039174
>>144039174
Still at it if someone would mind helping?
>>
Can someone help me with Shadow of Yharnam fight on NG+3? The password is soybean.
>>
>>144042313
If you can't handle Witch you're gonna have a hell of a time at Canhurts
>>
>>144042697
It's a matter of principle.
>>
>>144042313
Do they? I thought you just needed the summons from the clinic.
Witches are pretty damn easy though.
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>>144042847
Oh, well in that case its a matter of like 2 minutes because thats how long the run and fight from the horse-stop should take you.
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>>144042872
>Do they?
Yeah, the carriage won't show up otherwise. I think it is to do with summons.

>>144042771
>>144043043
You do realize that it selects my whole name and trip when I click in the name field, right? If I was trying to delete my name one tap of back space would completely clear it.

Not to mention, all the people trying to imitate me anyway. At least make your same fagging a little less obvious. When it is this easy it just gets boring.
>>
>>144043043
Bully the luci
>>
>>144043043

not that interesting

everyone already knows tripfag autists samefag when they don't get enough attention to finish jerking off
>>
>>144043043
>Giving tripfags attention

Fighting the beasts by making beasts. Healing Church pls go and stay go.
>>
Hey guys, so I've been thinking of picking up this game again. Have not played it since it first came out.

My question is, how active is the community still? Is it still alive, or is it pretty much dead outside of /vg/ clubs?
>>
>>144043454
Plenty of multiplayer to be had still, and even without it the game is worth replaying.
>>
>>144043645
Okay thanks. I wonder if I still have my old character planner sheet.
>>
>>144043216
>>144043248
>>144043281
>>144043338
I'm not saying he was samefagging, just that whoever janitors here is not for any Lucifer support.
>>
Who's watching you through the bushes as you get on the Cainhurst carriage? Alfred?
>>
>>144042313
You'd probably want to kill the witch anyway since I believe the rune workshop tool is past her. Who cares
>>
>>144044002
if that were true he wouldn't still fucking be here
every post he makes is for a precious (You)
>>
>male Knight's Wig doesn't have the little hat

Why live?
>>
Which version of the rifle spear should I look for?
>>
>>144045886
Arcane
>>
>>144045886
the one with two radials and a triangle
just like every other physical weapon
>>
>>144045886
The one called that doesn't look like the rifle spear and also is nit called rifle spear
>>
>>144046376
fuck urself luci
>>
Fresh of the presses, faggots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohMasI4uU-0
>>
>>144047052
I wish 4chan had sound webms. Seriously what the fuck its fucking 2016
>>
Can someone help me w/ Ludwig? First phase is fine but beating second with the wheel is insane

password ; xxyyxx
>>
>>144047765
;-;
>>
Anyone want to help me kill Logarius? I'm stupidly low-leveled so I need someone to bait him.

pass - bbg
>>
>>144049084
ringing
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>>144049375
Are you the ghost with the Hunter's Axe ringing the bell?

I'm level 26 but I'm not sure how lenient the password matching is in bb.
>>
>>144049867
it shouldnt matter, do you have worldwide set to on?
>>
>>144049939
yeah it's on

You're right outside the boss room and not at the cainhurst lantern right?
>>
>>144050058
Also don't stand too close to the boss fog, it will cancel out your bell.
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>>144050058
yup, not sure why it isnt working. Im lvl 95 maybe thats too high but im pretty sure password cancels out level requirements
>>
>>144050247
I'm not sure but it might just expand the range (albeit greatly) without entirely removing it.
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>>144050361
ill try on my level 60
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>>144050425
It won't make a difference
Both of you should make sure you don't have the rest mode bug
>>
>>144050842
goddamnit I always forget about that shit.

I'll reset the game
>>
Has anyone ever gotten good at the "press X then flail the controller around to do gestures" nonsense?

The only time in the series I've ever been able to do any of those consistently was the Bow in DeS.
>>
>>144051074
Ringing again.
>>
So, I need to run through Great Isz in order to get the Isz Root Chalice - which I would then make with all the available offerings (C/R/F), which would then give me access to all the depth 5 chalice passwords?
>>
>>144051448
Yes. You'll be able to access all chalices as long as you have found the chalice that you're planning to do.
>>
>>144051209
>press X
Wait, I was supposed to press X?
>>
Where can I find Red Jelly? I need it for Queen Yharnam's chalice.
>>
>>144052796
Theres two in the first floor of the nightmare building or whatever, its on the right before the door that leads to the frontier
>>
>>144052217
They made it seem like in Bloodborne you just flail the controller.
You actually hold X and then flail it.
It hardly ever works right.
>>
>>144052796
There's 3 places you can go.
>Lecture Building has 2
>Isz layer 3 has 2
>Lower Loran Layer 2 and 3 has one each
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>>144051209
I'm super good at it when I'm talking to NPCs and/or in the middle of something important where being interrupted for 3-5 seconds greatly fucks me over.

The trick is to not want it to happen.
>>
>>144053685
>rush your blood stain
>instead of picking it up, you gesture and get one shotted
>>
Fucking Logarius ate up all my vials.

Ima kill myself for now; thanks for the help anon
>>
>>144053685
>Go to try pick up blood chunk just after sitting there and listening to Micolash's whole AWOOO speech before the jump to phase 2
>Gesture bow
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>mfw I reach Yahargul
Jesus Christ I fucking hate it here.
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Best method for killing headless bsb in cursed ihyll? Going for heavy abyssals so I'm str based but my fuck is this guy a nuisance when you're 1shotted
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>>144052108
Wait, so I need to have Pthumeru Ihyll Root and Lower Loran Root as well?
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>>144053282
>It hardly ever works right.
That's wrong though
It works near perfectly once you get the hang of it, only 2 of all the movement slots are iffy
>>
>>144054510
If you want to access those yes. You only need to actually make the FRC Isz Root one though. All this means is that you have to beat Ihyll hblb and Loran Darkbeast to have access to those other glyphs.
>>
Where can I get a Bastard of Loran?
>>
>>144054906
In Loran
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>>144054817
Alright. I got it now.
>>
>>144054510
Basically
>Get Lower Loran/Isz/Ihyll Root chalice
>Make one of them as an FRC

You can now access all three of them

>>144054906
Ailing Loran layer 3, NG+ Insight Messenger, or Lower Loran from silverbeasts. They drop it far more often in lower than in ailing.
>>
>>144054653
But how?!?!?

Teach us this dark magic anon!

At what point do you press (hold?) X and how big do you make the controller gestures? It's literally been years and I still can't figure it out.
>>
So we can all agree BB > DaS3 right?
>>
>>144055393
Yeah. DaS3 is pretty good, but BB really is just on another level.
>>
>>144055393
Yeah DSIII makes me wanna play Bloodborne.
I already got all the trophies in BB, but playing DSIII and joining all the BB threads make me wanna replay BB.
Still going through DSIII though, I dunno.
I'm just not having too much fun.
>>
>>144055393
Yeah, I'm pretty much done with DS3 until it becomes a better game. I at least stuck with it longer than I did with DS2.
>>
>>144055950
>>144055721
I really just feel like substance was missing from DaK3. Even graphical performance was lowered. Character movement and detail is much smoother and realistic (for lack of better wording) than DaK3.
Don't get me started on the piss easy DaK3 bosses that basically use tedious and status effects in exchange for difficulty.
Too many repeat enemies too (dual wield schimitar spin attack stop)

They really should have gone above and beyond in DaK3 instead of same old
>>
>>144055389
>Start holding X
>Hold it still for a moment (half sec or less)
>Do the movement
>Hold it still at the end again for a split second
>Release X
Whole gesture shouldn't take longer than a second
Once you get that down and recognize the motions executing the moves is very reliable, there's only two of the movements that I haven't fucked around with enough to get down
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>>144056515
>Too many repeat enemies too
and repeat weapons, and repeat spells
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>>144055721

It really is superior in every way. DS3 tried way too hard to emulate BB without just going all in and BEING BB, which resulted in the weird mess that it is.

It's also EXTREMELY linear, which is annoying as hell (BB on the other hand only has 7 mandatory boss fights and the rest can be done in pretty much any order you like).

And of course there's the completely broken pvp in ds3 which makes the multiplayer aspect a 0/10.

BB > DeS > DS1 >> DS3 >>>>(etc.)>> DS2 > many non-Souls games (to be fair to ds2)
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>>144056770
Also the hitboxes are so huge it just makes it easy to dodge bosses
>LMAO vordt
>meanwhile 1 shooted in BB
And
>Crystal Sages
>spawn all these spam enemies just stan real one to death
>Martyr Logarius
>you want to dodge my abilities? Sike.
>you think I only use magic? Haha Scythe

So many D3 enemies are quantity. Always more than 1.
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>>144057187
And the enemies once you hit Lothric Castle just take out 70% of your health per swing even with 40+ vigor
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>>144056539

Jesus christ it actually makes sense now.

*mashes X and takes out everything around me trying to bow to you*
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>>144057187
another thing, particularly about the start of the game, is that it's so fucking boring. Miyazaki said they made it intentionally easy, but I don't want to make new characters anymore because I have to sit through the same 2 hours of boring bosses and areas before I get to a part of the game that doesn't suck (which doesn't occur until after Cathedral of the Deep).

Meanwhile in BB, I've done like 12 characters, plus a fuckload where I've played up till Gas Can, killed him, and then just deleted them because I fucked up the skin color or something, and not once has it been boring.
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>>144057771
Iudex Gundyr is pretty much the only good boss until you get to Pontiff Sulhyvann.
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Alright, Yah'arghul is kicking my ass, think that's enough Bloodborne for tonight.
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So, how much better do the beast claws get with Laurence's rune?
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>>144058620
Worse. Cooler, but worse.
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Who Robin here?
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>>144038776
He's right, also everyone LOVES to be summoned for Ludwig it's stupid fun
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>>144057771
Comparatively though, I find everything after around about blood starved beast to be an absolute chore.

Something about the content is so dull, fighting through repetitive enemy designs, samey feeling areas and generally unfun bosses right up until ebrietas and logarius or so.

Starting BB again really isn't the hard part for me, it's having to do shit like forbidden woods, yahargul and nightmare of mensis, 3 areas that are both tedious and boring.

I kind of wish you could just start new characters in the dlc, that would be good.

>>144057187
But this describes BB as well

just in the general encounter design, BB is generally more about placing a lot of enemies in short spaces, yahar'gul in particular is a really big example of this, and it really suffers as a result, especially the top.

It's just as easy to dodge bosses in Bloodborne because of the incredibly fast dodge spam, and the general low endurance use of it, I'm not sure what you are getting at.

It's somewhat unfair to compare a relatively early game boss, the crystal sage, to a late optional area boss as well, why not compare the respective comparatives in nameless king or champion gundyr, seeing as they both fit logarius both mechanically and game position wise far more.

It's not like BB doesn't host bosses like shadows, the witches, rom, the one reborn, merciless watchers, or the direct sage comparison with yharnam, celestial emissary, mergo's wet nurse and living failures either.
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>>144040214
I listen to the Silent Hill series ost or bands I enjoy, Radiohead and MBV seem to pair well with BB
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>>144059392
How so? Mind giving a mini break down on what makes them worse? I have the claws but haven't killed Laurence on this build yet.

I want to like them but they're a bit basic and I was hoping the rune would add some variety.
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>talk to Eileen in by sewers
>never find her again
>kill a handful of bosses (Amelia, witches, ringwraiths)
>she's nowhere to be found in any location she's supposed to be in according to the wiki
Is she gone for good? I don't even want to do her quests, I just want to kill her and get the blades of mercy.
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>>144060315
>he didn't help her fight Henryk

She's dead.
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>>144047765
Are you still needing help?
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>>144060427
No idea who that is. The NPCs are even more obscure in BB that the other souls games. This is just annoying.

What other skill weapon can I find? I want to use something other than the cane.
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>>144060634
Go back to where you fought Gascan.

Besides the can, you beat bosses or kill hunters for badges which let you buy new weapons from the Hunter's Dream.
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>>144060732
She's not there. Neither is Henryk. How's the katana thing you get from joining the cainhurst covenent?
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>>144060634
Wasn't that hard she was only right next to the door at Cathedral Ward. Use your eyes
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>>144059784
I think he's trying to say that DS3 relies very heavily on bosses with multiple enemies (and it does, that's like more than half of them). BB obviously has them as well, though they're much better overall (even Celestial Emissary is a better fight than its DS3 equivalent since its second phase is actually kind of substantial).

I would go as far to say that Shadows are a better fight than Abyss Watchers, too, mainly because its difficulty maintains its consistency no matter what NG tier you're on or how many times you do it. Abyss Watchers meanwhile is challenging up until the moment you figure out they can be backstabbed (Abyss Watchers has the better music, though).
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>>144060878
Have you read my first post? I've checked every single location she's supposed to be in and she is gone.
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>>144060898
>Celestial Emissary
>literally easiest boss ever

Abyss Watchers was actually easy too when you learn one is the main boss, the other is a partner, and a third bad one pops in which they aggro.
All you have to do is dodge, wait for third guy, backstab and fuck up the main Abyss Watcher.
Moves are easily telegraphed.
The shit about the Shadows of Yharnam is they level up during the fight and use more moves if you don't git gud enough and kill them quick.
The katana fags aren't too bad but that loser pyromancer screws you over from fighting.
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>>144061021
Kill Rom then go to the Grand Cathedral.
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>>144060864
Maybe the most OP thing in bb if you have BLT build
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>>144060898
I disagree on several points.

Comparatively, I would say the deacons are the "celestial emissary" of dark souls 3, both from a world building perspective and a combat perspective, being servants under aldrich/way of the white etc.

In terms of difficulty though, Emissary is certainly more challenging, although still fairly simple.

But unlike the celestial emissary fight, in the second phase the deacons actually work together and act intelligently for a mob fight, whereas in the celestial emissary fight it kind of felt, and even more in the second phase, like the adds were there just to make a simplistic boss more difficult in a cheap way, the mobs don't really work together.

Also, I don't agree that the shadows are better than the abyss watchers, I find the abyss watchers are more memorable in terms of their implementation of the multi boss battle into their character, and I find they use a more unique feeling fighting style.

I can understand why you personally prefer the shadows, but to me, I found the boss fight disappointing as it was just three enemies that didn't really mesh together than well.

In terms of difficulty, I also had more trouble with the watchers, but I can also understand why the shadows would give more trouble if you fought them off in a different order.
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>>144061435
What if my build's a Reuben instead?
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>>144061489
>act intelligently
have you ever gotten Royce to move far enough away from the aldrich faithful guys that spawn with him? Or thrown an alluring skull pretty much anywhere in the room? They tried to make things a little more complex, yeah, but it breaks under the slightest amount of stress, and more than half the time the rest of the adds will be too busy trying to cast their curse to react to anything you're doing.

Now, if the Aldrich Faithful spawns made more of an effort to heal Royce, and hit you with a weak Emit Force or something instead of just knocking you on your back, then we'd have something to work with.

At least the adds in the CE fight are all actively trying to kill you at all times, and the two additional forms have new moves to throw at you.
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>>144061840
I hate that this made me laugh.

Well then good on you for having the most delicious build in the game
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What is that unique scent Hunters have that people comment on and what causes it?
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>>144062414
getting covered in blood of beasts
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>>144062414
>hunter
>kills beasts
>covered in blood
>i can smell you
>you are a hunter
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>>144062275
Still, I find the celestial emissary minions don't really have much purpose in the fight other than to sit there and attack you mindlessly.

Perhaps if they gave the minions any sort of collective presence other than the hiding of the main emissary in phase 1 I would have enjoyed the fight.

Something that could have been interesting would be if several minions spawned on the edges of the arena, and started casting some shit or gave the main emissary a speed buff or some shit, who knows.

I find the living failures and deacons of the deep to be more successful as mob boss encounters because they act together, and don't seem lazy in their implementation as a mob boss.

It's largely the reason I find Rom and Dukes dear freja similarly to be horrid fights.
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>>144062750
ayy lmaos aren't very smart
suits them
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Micolash game when?
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>>144062946
Right after the Ludwig game.
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>>144055393
I don't have the drive to play though DaS3 again for the different endings and npc quests, because build variety is shit and the new lore is bland, and the references to the other games are worse than DaS2's.

I might buckle down and do a couple of runs just to see everything once I'm done with Doom, but then it'll back to Bloodborne until the DLC, unless they fix the pvp in DaS3.

I wonder we'll see anything from From at E3
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Should I avoid taking my Chikage to +10 until I can manage to get the lost version?
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>>144063592
>unless they fix the pvp in DaS3.
Good joke.
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>>144063592
The new lore isn't THAT bad. There's some cool stuff like the slugs being fingers that respeced too many times, there's the pilgrims and the butterflies they turn into, and there's all the cruel shit Sulyvahn was behind.

It's like 10 leagues away from BB's, though.
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>>144062414
You smell of the moon, paleblood, ''moonlit scents'' as Iosefka puts it. Remember when the messengers smothered you in the intro? They bubble up into the world in puddles of paleblood.
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>>144063643

If you want to min/max the tricked damage then yes
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>>144063954

If the dlc capitalizes on the pilgrim/infected dragon shit then it could definitely be interesting
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I really don't understand the point of the church cannon. Weaker than the regular cannon, only uses 2 less qs bullets, has a lower str requirement but by only 3 points as well as needing 16 bt.

I don't see any build where this would be worthwhile.
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>>144064161
I'm almost hoping it doesn't because that means we'll get the terrible boss music sitting in the files that clearly has a part of Pilgrim/Dragonslayer Armor's theme in it
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>nobody ringing for father guacamole at bl19

I just want to help
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>>144063954
It feels like they had some really cool IDEAS and then after shoving a few in just let the DaS2 team take over. I have my doubts that the DLC will cover any of it, expecting them to just asspull new areas and "lore".
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I have no idea how to use the weapon calculator at all but lets say I have 40 skill and I want to use a SKL scaling +11 on my ludwig blade +10
would that have higher dmg compared to lets say a physical atk up +17.3%?
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>>144063954
Yeah I've been spoiled by Bb's lore.

Sullyvahn, Ludleth, everything related to Londor, Namless King, and the Old Demon King and the dying demons are all parts I enjoyed.

It's poisoned by all the references to the other games, Nameless King would have been enough, a big answer to a small mystery from the first Dark Souls, though I also liked Eygon and Irina being a riff on Astraea and Garl.
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>>144064315
longer range, arcs, different requirements.
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>>144064502

Dex scaling gems are garbage and for str/arc they only outperform via the 65 abyssals
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>>144064508
>the dying demons
oh yeah, that's another thing. We're told that Lorian had some war with the Demon Prince. That'll probably be one of the DLCs.
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>>144064819
this sucks. thought it would be useful in a certain way.
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>>144065047

Unfortunately not. The last patch did fix the str/arc scaling Stat to be quite useful, specifically str scaling making dex weapons usable with a str focused build
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>>144064886
I think they already covered it. Lorian slaughtered the weakening demons and killed their prince, and then the curse gave him autism and all that was left were the ruins in smouldering lake and the burnt out old king.

That's the impression I got when you walk into the Old Demon King's arena and he's lying amongst the piles of his kin.
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>>144065343

I could see them spin it like the last giant in 2 where you go back in time and be the one responsible for originally taking the king down. Boring stuff desu
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>>143938815
>
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>>144065701
do not sexualize the mother kos
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Did any other hunter fight Gerhman? I know they stopped dreaming.
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do you learn anything from this game? Like any life lesson?
I feel like I learned not to be impatient and dont' rush things. But it also felt like I am not taking an advantage that could be a high risk high reward situation.
what the hell man. Chalice ROM is fucking my ass so hard
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Do blue elixirs make you fully invisible to mobs? What about to opponents in pvp?
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Can I still be invaded in mensis/frontier if I kill the boss but left the chime maidens alive?
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>>144068215
No, boss needs to be alive.
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>>144068306
Ah bummer. I want to progress but I like being invaded.
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>>143938684
Anyone else think the whole story bloodborne is just symbolism for "the black death"/ the plage?
The game starts out fairly normal then once the protagonist gets a blood transfusion he goes into a delirium and starts killing innocents.
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>>144069624
Nah, it only seems that way at first. As the game goes on and you get access to more lore, it makes it pretty clear that that is not the case.
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>>144069813
What makes you think he isn't just "dreaming" all that?
From one of his many fever dreams.

The game makes it really clear their in the middle of a pestilence. With all the corpses stacked upon eachother. And burials near churches.

I'm not going to get into a lore argument but the story is open to interpretation and am mearly stating mine.
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>>144070080
i think you trivialised it a bit, but i know what you mean
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>>143938684
>bored and have no urge to finish the game after The One Reborn
>kinda want to make a new character for a new build
>see 0 reason considering i dont have the dlc and access to shit that would make a new build worth it
fucking sale when
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>>144070701
Never, it's gonna be $20 until the end of time.
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>>144014870
Being awesome.
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How do I get the bloodborne platinum theme? I platinumed it at the end of april but didn't get a code in an email ot anywhere. Is there something I have to do? I live in NA btw
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>>144062414
Apparently, outer space smells kind of like burnt almonds so maybe it's that
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>>144067774
They make you nearly invisible to players, i know that much. I couldn't tell you the amount of times I stood still with a blue elixir watching the invader run past me, stop, and slowly walk towards me in confusion.
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>>144060079
Beast Claws are all about stacking beasthood and ripping everything to shit as quickly as possible to keep it above 300 at all times. Standard claws are quicker than Beast's Embrace claws, which makes them better at this. But like Anon said the moveset's a lot cooler so it comes down to whether you find using a weapon that's technically worse but more fun appealing. I personally only use the claws with the rune.
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>>144062414
>Ah, moonlit scents....How did you worm your way in here?
>Visitor… Moon-scented hunter… I am Annalise, Queen of Castle Cainhurst.

Hunters working for MP seem to have a unique smell. Whilst Fauxsefka and Annalise seem to know at least a little about what the smell means, I'm assuming everyone else just knows it means, 'The hunter who has come to fucking murder everybody.'
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>>144063592
This.

I beat DaSIII yesterday, and honestly, don't have any drive to go back.

They fucked up the balance so build variety is fucking awful.
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>>144077034
You need(ed) to have your email set up to receive emails from Sony.
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>>144079304
I feel the same way, honestly. It's a huge step up from DaS2, but playing BB ruined it for me. BB just does so much shit so much better. Honestly, DaS3 would be so much better if they turned on Poise.
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>>144054254
Yeah, the bell cunts are horrible, there's one inside the building that's being protected by a bunch of villagers at the start, next inside the building directly afterwards, then you have to go to the garden with the old hags and jump down from a ledge on the right to enter a building from the 2nd floor and kill the one there, afterwards after the lantern there's one more in the corner of the place with the gunner, regular villager and the big guy, then there's another one in the bottom near the shortcut elevator back up, and the final one is in the opposite side of the bath you can use to teleport, reachable by jumping off the elevator at a certain point before reaching the top/bottom.
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>>144054254
I don't get the hate. It was one of my favorite areas in the game.
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bloodborne 2 when? what do you think the next from game will be about? robots?
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>>144081085
BB 2 will just be another dream.

Cyber Souls will be a completely new thing.
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>>144081085
Hopefully never. If a Bloodborne 2 happens it's likely Miyazaki will want to go do something else and leave it to B team. Better for that to not happen.
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>>144081085
I hope it has something to do with Pthumerians, Cainhurst or Mensis school. I want more of them.
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>>144081775
Did Miyazaki even really work on BB though? I thought he was manly just there for advice.

>>144081857
I honestly like the theory that's been floating around that Cainhurstians are actually the members of Londor who came from the DaS dimension after the their DaS ending.

Bullshit or not, it kind of fits well with their whole undead and blood shit.
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>>144081775
Since it's Sony I doubt they will let him go just like that, they'll probably just shake his hand without asking anything and he's like "okay" like with SotFS and DS3.

Or it goes just like Souls, they will fuck up BB2 so badly Miyazaki has to save it and do the third.
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>>144081085
new IP will be From Software's take on the Thief games, with multiplayer revolving around working with other players to break into places, screwing them over when they least expect it, and going after other thieves with large enough prices on their head.
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Any advice for living ayy lmaos apart from shaman bone blade?
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>>144082003
Wrong way around, he was only involved with DaS2 in a supervisory capacity but he directed Bloodborne and BB was entirely his concept to begin with.

And since he's already announced he's working on a new IP, if a BB2 is announced he won't be heading it again, meaning it'll be another DaS2.
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>>144082070
So Assassin's Creed.

Honestly m8, that sounds awful. I want a good SciFi game.

Like pic related, but with From in charge.

>inb4 shit game

yeah, yeah I know. but the concept and atmosphere was really cool.
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>>144082268
>Wasting Shaman Bone Blades on failures

Just divide and conquer. If one strays away from the pack parry the fucker. If none stray away, lure them away from the casters then run back around and fuck the casters up.
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Hey can someone help a brotha out with Ludwig?
pass; bbg69
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>>144082268
Thrust weapon and bolt paper
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>>144082446
It's not really wasting when I can easily buy some more for a bit of insight but I see your point, whoever I knife would die too quickly before proving useful in any way.
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>>144082679
I WHEEL help you.
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>>144082679
I might not be good at the game but you have my wheel (which I should definitely get a lost version of ASAP).
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>>144082679
Give me a few to set up and I'll join too
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Fuck so close.
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>>144083112
WHEEL get him, ringing again.
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Im sorry! I really didnt expect him to come at me there i was firing off the gloves
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Welp I died, tell me if you succeed in killing him.
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GLORY TO THE WHEEL. THANKS BROTHERS!
>>144083429
Yes ! we did thanks so much to you two guys !
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>>144083470
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>>144083543
I really should have dressed in full executioner gear or at least worn the cone.
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>>144064351
What's this now?
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>>144040489
You are such a fucking faggot
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>>144085076
How does that relate to my post?
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>>144085236
Sorry, l had a bad day, l didn't mean to insult you
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>>144085631
>using faggot as an insult on 4chan
You must be new. Fag is just another word for person around here.

I just wondered what your bitching had to do with the video I posted a link to.
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Going from trick weapons to dark souls weapons is such a downer. BB really spoiled us
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>>144039207
Ludwig's jump attack is easily avoidable, it's not different from the rest of his attacks.
It's absolutely nothing compared to frenzy.
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Anyone have any good character slider tutorials or anything? All my guys come out janked.
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>>144087832
Get hair and beards and the other details you like and then use the similar face option. After some tries something good looking get's generated, usually.
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well i'm almost cured from the hangover
anyone wanna join in doing cainhurst?
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>>144088528
hit me with a pw famlad
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>>144088719
bbg , just in the entrance before the stairs
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>>144088802
I'll also join. Give me a moment to switch chars
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Just got DS3 a few days ago, it being the first Souls game I played. It's better than BB
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>>144089223
what specifically makes it better in your opinion?
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In all my time playing BB, I've never been stunlocked like that before. I was mashing roll but I couldn't do a damn thing. What happened here?
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>>144089602
BoM + lag = not good
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>bathroom called
>weapon broke
that went better than expected
ebriettas and emmisary left , if i even remember how to get to those two
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>>144089296
To put it simply it's "grander" as in it just feels like there is so much more in it, more weapons, more enemies, bigger enviroments, more mechanics (though this can kinda be overwhelming). Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying BB is bad but after playing DS3 to me BB just feels a lot cheaper. I feel like i've seen more enemies and weapons in DS3 being only like 1/6th of the way through the game than I have in the base game of BB.

Though the thing I will say though is that I do like BBs weapons more since even though there is less of them each one is unique with a unique moveset. I also do like BBs setting and shit more

That being said, I would enjoy a full fledged BB game that doesn't feel like a cheaper version of the DS games a lot That or a Scifi style Souls game
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>>144089925
You've been playing for a few days, you'll realize why its inferior very soon. The game is a lot, lot smaller and artificially padded.
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>>144089925
>it's "grander"
nope, you're just eating up the fanservice
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>>144090115
What fanservice, i've only played BB before this?
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>>144090115
I disagree with him about everything, but the fanservice has nothing to do with what he's saying considerind that it's his first Souls game.
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>>144089925
Would BB be more grand if it had weapon reskins?
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>>144090234
For most of us, the majority of us that content is copy-pasta
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>want to play BB again
>remember forbidden woods, shadows, rom, yahargul, the one reborn, mensis, micolash, wet nurse, frontier and the rest of the main game

Why can't BB just be central-cathedral ward-old yharnam-ucw-cainhurst-dlc

In all seriousness though, playing through the main game is boring as fuck
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>>144090750
Who's forcing you?
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>>144090837
every couple of weeks or so I get the urge to turn bb on again, but it's been a really slow process because of how dull some of the game is, I'm at forbidden woods right now
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>>144091063
Maybe BB is just not for you.
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anyone for upper cathedral ward?
bbg is password , ringing at first bonfire
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>>144091063
Just make a goal to get through x section or beat y boss each time you go on.
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How do gems work in relation to bosses? If one boss spawns in layer 3 of a depth 5 FRC dungeon and I manage to get the boss to spawn in a layer 1 of another depth 5 FRC dungeon (in this case HMPH Elder) will he drop the same gems?
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>>144091063
Speedrunning from FW to end of Mensis can be done very quickly and easily if you've been through those areas before.
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>>144091158
still ringing?
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>>144092147
yeah
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Why do people say that Bloodborne/Souls games in general don't have stories?
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>>144092282
I've heard all kinds of criticisms, insults, and shitposting about Soulsborne and never have I heard anyone say they don't have stories.
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>>144092364
This
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>>144092282
I've never heard that they don't have stories.

I've heard that they have BAD stories/lore before, which is opinion based honestly because the stories are usually pretty simple and the lore is often vague and up to interpretation
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Whipped up a tricked-only HMLS build.
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/17259
Throwing in a fire Cane for the serrated damage, unless you have a better suggestion that isn't Whirlimeme.
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>>144092147
ringing in ebriettas door , same password
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>>144092825
ringing at wet nurse zone (first bonfire)
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>>144093294
I'll be at the fog just in case
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Best PvE strength weapons other than whirligig?
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>>144093939
Saw cleaver
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>>144093814
wasn't needed , thanks anyway
that was easier than i remembered it
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Absolute best gem setup for strength wheel?
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>>144093939
Saw cleaver's pretty sick for anything really
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>>144094286
Heavy Abyssal and Blunts
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>>144093992
>>144094362
But the cleaver's kinda boring
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>>144093939
>PvE

Literally anything.
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>>144094424
It's boring if you decide to use it in a boring way.
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>>144094510
how do you use the cleaver in a non boring way
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>>144094510
>stay tricked
>apply fire paper + pellet
>cheese
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>>144094549
By mixing R1 and L1 attacks for extra range
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what the fuck is the point of the amygdalan arm, beast cutter and kirkhammer
are they just special snowflake weapons for people too proud to just use saif and rakuyo like everyone else
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>>144094424
Well you asked for best, not most interesting. If you want a fun weapon then play around with them
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>>144094741
They're weapons for those who have more str than skill.
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>>144094929
why do fun and effectiveness always have to be mutually exclusive in every game?
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>>144094979
Who the fuck would actually do a STR build?
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do anyone actually use the shields in this game?
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>>144094998
Rakuyo is fun and effective.
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>>144094998
because the very qualities that make a weapon boring and uninteresting are usually the ones making it so good in the first place.
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>>144095058
Lots of people run with the Loch Shield since it blocks arcane attacks.
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>>144095017
I don't like to limit myself to one playstyle.
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>>144094979
why would you actually use anything but a skill build though?
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>>144095170
its just the other day I wrecked some guy that kept holding that shield trying to block my kirkhammer and got squashed
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>>144094998
Well it can be fun, I used it for the first half of my playthrough and enjoyed it. It's effective because it's got a good and reliable moveset and damage, while a more fun weapon might be less reliable but be more satisfying to use
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>>144095265
Well no shit it'll get squashed against actual attacks. It's just to block magic.
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>>144095241
Read the post above yours to find out.
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Are strength builds even viable?
Or is Bloodborne just a skill or gtfo one build game?
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>>144095370
Rakuyo or bust. Anything else is worthless.
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>>144095370
Of course str builds are viable
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>>144095370
Everything is viable except for fist of gratia, untricked bloodletter and boom hammer.
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>>144095370
STAKE
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>>144095489
(Hunter's) Torch?
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>>144095598
It's viable against dark rooms.
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>>144095370
Rakuyo and Saif are the only weapons that matter.
Honestly, I prefer having only one build anyway.
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>>144095370
>>144095740
Hve fun with your aspies then.
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>tfw beating some Str babby who wasted hundreds of hours of his life farming korean gems with simple mindless Saif R1 spam and welfare gems
No better feeling
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>>144095993
What's with the shitposting today?
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>>144094998
Because easy is boring, you beast.
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post a list of good strength weapons
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>>144096237
Some got tossed halfway across the map by an Amy Arm and is very butthurt about it.
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>>144096426
Is that what happend with the nautilus woman?
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>>144095993
Wtf r korean gems?
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doing ailing loran chalice now, do I equip a +13% beat dmg for the boss? Does it make much different if I am giving up 12% phy atk up?
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>>144097750
Keep using the one with the highest AR.
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Can someone help with the Undead Giant in Lower Pthumeru?

Pass: bbg
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>getting to Fishing Hamlet for the first time
>those screaming fish dogs and nonstop Logarius' spell spam

fucking Miyazaki really does have a boner for horses and dogs
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>>144099501
If you think that's bad go down the well
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>>144080758
I've just gotten back to the Gaol area and right now the hunters are kicking my ass.
I'm trying to cheese them by luring them down stairs and hiding inside the cell, but I keep closing the door in the wrong direction.
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>>144099337
nvm, i got him
thou help with Rom would be appreciated.

Same pass
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>>144099501
>fucking Miyazaki really does have a boner for horses and dogs
And yet after four medieval games about knights we still have to see a proper horseman.
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>have multiple 5 rate blood gem
>got the trophy after killing ailing loran's beast possesd soul

Why did that happen? I didn't see what blood gem I got from him cause I was spamming X and the highest blooedgem I have is still 5 rated
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>>144100695
5 is not the max
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Can I get some help with paarl? Ng pass is plsno
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I just want an sl 80-120 fc with no cringey teenager rules...
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Daily reminder that Loranon's lore theories have mostly been proven true
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Would Tonitrus be a good secondary weapon for an Ayy-Build?
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>>144101720
They happen every Saturday.
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>>144099501
PREPARE YOUR ANUS FOR SHARK ANCHOR ATTACK
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>>144102215
Ayy builds don't really need secondary weapons, but you can use whatever you want.
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The Bloodletter seems like a really fun weapon to use. If I want to use the tricked form only, what's the best origin and build?
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>>144102691
Noble scion, get just enough str to use it and 50 blt.
The transformed version scales with blt exclusively.
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>>144102776
Cool, appreciate the info.
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>>144102215
Tonitrus isn't a good primary weapon for a Tonitrus build.
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>>144101430
Thanks for the assist. Seems like I didn't need it though.... How did you off yourself BTW?
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>>144102860
If you get Skl to 15 it also serves as a fully functional Chikage and Bowblade build as well, and since you'll only need 50 BLT and 50 VIT you'll have enough spare points for it.
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Anyone willing to help with BLB in Lower Pthumeru?

Pass: bbg
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>>143970537
fight him in open sea so the camera is less broken and the electric attack is easy to dodge
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>>144102691
>>144102776
start with military veteran if you don't want to use tools
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>>144103602
I didn't even realize how large the sea area was until after I killed him; does the water cause the electric attack to fuck you up even harder if it does hit you?
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>>144102260
Sorry i meant a FC with no rules at all.

I know i can just hang out in the nightmares but having max gems makes me feel like a bully when fighting people that are underleveled or without gems.
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>>144103492
plz?
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>>144102157
I've been gone since dec.

Wtf happend to bbg where loreanon is now taken srs
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>>143974110
From what I remember in previous Souls games (and I imagine it's the same here, because let's face it, Miyazaki copy-pastes A LOT) having high discovery only affects the chance of SOMETHING dropping.

When items DO drop, your ratio of bullets:gems will still be more or less the same, regardless of discovery.
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>>144103974
Most of his lore ideas were proven right with the DLC, so the shitposting about him looks really fucking stupid now.
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>>144102157
>>144103974
>>144104047

pls no samefagging
keep that garbage in /dsg/
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>>144103974
loranon likes to post about himself in the third person
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>>144104187
>implying implications
There's no samefagging going on.
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>>143938824
>come back to bbg after a two-month absence
>luci still posting the exact same fucking webm at least twice per thread
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>>144104239
>>144104187
>>144104047
>>144103974
>>144104270
Let's take a look

>Cainhursts are the last of the Pthumerian Royalty
Proven by Maria and her heritage/abilities
>Loran is part of the Pthumeru civilization and also part of the chalice labyrinth below Yharnam
Was always clearly and obviously confirmed by the game
>Fauxsefka is a Cainhurst
Was always obvious and confirmed by in-game evidence. Only further solidified by DLC.

People who shat on Loranon are illiterate morons who can't into reading and story comprehension.
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>>144104602
>at
least
>pretend
you're
>not
loranon
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>>144104483
It's the only webm he has since he doesn't actually play the game.
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>>144103602
Yeah, I've been fighting him out there ever since I saw the electric attack fuck me up on the shore. Getting closer every attempt, should have him soon hopefully
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>>144103856
Try nunuwugs, pretty sure its a japanese fc with no rules but i dont know how populated it is.
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>>144104915
of course the japs have some ridiculous sounding glyph...
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>>144105105
Y u jelly of their kawaii dungeon name?
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>>144103856
So by no rules do you mean maxed gems? Because I'm fairly certain that most people in the saturday FC have those.

Part of the reason I haven't jumped in there yet since I don't have any good gems yet so I'd probably get flattened
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>>144105829
No he means healing allowed and bma/lead elixer isn't frowned upon
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>>144106036
Oh right gotcha
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>>144105829
Max gems, full use of everything such as vials and items.
I just wanna see it get CRAAAAaaaazy.
Did alot of no heal max gem fights but they're so short and never felt satisfied unless we were both on slivers of health and the tension at its highest
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>>144106162
No items, fox only and final destination only or gtfo scrub.
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>>144106668
>>144106668
>>144106668
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>>144106162
I can respect that, sounds like it would be fun.

Does the saturday FC not have different areas for say normal, no gems, and anything-goes? Sounds like that would be neat if that's not the case right now.

Then again I don't know how active the FC is
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>>144104602
>Fauxsefka is a Cainhurst

this gets brought up every so often, but calling someone "a Cainhurst" is linguistically bankrupt. You can say they're of cainhurst origin, or "cainhurstian" or whatever the fuck, but calling them "a cainhurst" is akin to calling a spaniard "a spain".

also the first and third theories are bullshit.
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