/twg/ - Total War General

Do I need 2 Lords to take 40 units to battle in Campaign mode, or can I somehow get 40 under 1 lord?

Is Rome 2 good now?

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Ponies best cavalry.

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>>143888456

>>143888547
You need two unless you're playing as Orcs.

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>>143888487
>"With a massive Norscan force en route to Nordland's shores"
>"With a massive Norscan force on the way to Nordland's shores"

What isn't making sense to you?

What's the best way to build Karl Franz? General/Buffer or as a fighter? Did fighter last playthrough and was happy with the results

>Empire is overpowered
>VC is garbage
>Chaos is overpriced/underperforms for the stats
>Dwarves need not-garbage Gyrocopters

>Cant get into VC no matter how hard I try
a shame, I love the battles as VC but I just dont like the campaign.

>>143888669
En route / on the way implies they're not already there

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>>143888782
ORCS IZ FUN™

Just lost using Azhag. Now..

>>143888574
ROLL

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NTH FOR AMBUSH, RAID AND RAPE

tfw I confederated as orcs without realising that it got me another stack

>>143888814
Anon, what you're seeing is merely the vanguard.

The rape train has no breaks

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Friendly reminder that Dmitry's a cunt.

>>143888871
WHERE IS KRELL?

>>143889073
hey, as long as it works

I AM A LORD OF BRETONNIA

>>143889073
Canon Kislev army composition.

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What turn does chaos normally spawn? Is it random or are there triggers?

As Empire they've spawned at turn 48.

>>143889290
Not enough bears.

>>143888782
>VC is garbage

Excuse me?

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Oh Archeon

>>143889073
He looks like such a cunt aswell.

>>143889227
do you know who I am?

Okay, how the fuck do you counter steam tanks on multiplayer?
This guy just keeps spamming hero + all steam tanks

>>143889450
I believe it's tied to your growth. They usually appear around that turn for me though.

>>143888782
Vampire Counts is great fun

It's the only faction with full diplomacy and a reason to use it

>>143888861
orcs are fun but fighting dwarfs isn't

>>143889568
Absolutely NOT

>>143889450
It's random they didn't show up until 60 something for me.

Not sure if Archeon is the same way

So how do you progress as chaos? Just by sacking everything and then moving on?

>>143889580
Demigryphs with halberds

>>143889580
Lower funds or rules.

>>143889773
Pretty much. Awaken a few tribes first, then go on a rampage crippling your campaign targets factions while your allies clean up.

>>143889472
In the official lore, only the tzar rode a bear.

Just wrapped up my empire campaign around turn 150. Starting dwarfs on hard now. Any tips? Where should I expand first?

>>143889956
>not awakening and subjugating ALL the tribes

having a united norsca shitting wave after wave of fresh meat into the northern lands while you prepare your elite demon armies is comfy, and you never have to watch your back

Which factions will be released after Bretons you think?

>>143890079
Watch out for Orcs using the underway.

They can pop in from behind mountain ranges out of the fog of war.

>>143890145
So how does those people in chaos lands survive and do they literally just keep fucking and have chaos-fueled pregnancy fetishes?

Is it worth building upgrades to trade resource buildings if you are not already exporting 100% of that resource?

Seems like that'd be a waste of money.

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Am I literally the only person who didn't have trouble fighting the stunties?

Of course, they did annoy the shit out of me while I consolidated the badlands, but once I went on a genocidal campaign led by Grimgor it was all over for the manlets. The last few strongholds in the West are being mopped up by two Waaagh!s fighting in unison, both warlords having rare AP choppas of stuntie slaying

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>>143890258
Wood Elves and Beastmen

>>143890292
All trade resource buildings also provide income

>>143890258
Beastmen? Woodelves? Kislev?

>>143890260
right, I think I'm gnna upgrade every settlement with a watchhouse/garrison thing at first. Is it even possible to wipe out the Orks before Chaos turns up?

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Now that was disappointing

I know I'm playing on normal but come on

I've just got nthe game and started playing as Grimgor, are these goblins actually good against cav? They're spears so I'd assume so but it doesn't outright state it in the pros and cons

>>143890436
Not all. Fur provides growth and wine provides public order. But most of them do provide income.

So how do I use handgunners and mounted handgunners?

I saw people get bit salty over mounted handgunners but don't really know how to use them.

>>143890258
Skaven will probably be in the first expansion

>>143890608
>but come on
No.
If you're playing on normal you don't get to bitch.

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Why did they lower the diplomacy bonus from "war with X" and "military actions against X"? makes maintaining alliences nearly impossible once your great power debuf gets too large

>>143888574
first game lets do it boiz

>>143890690
>Get mounted ranged unit
>Toggle Skirmish mode
>Point it to whatever you want dead/delayed
if you don't trust skirmish mode, you can micro them yourself

>>143890720
I hope they don't turn out like Orcs, a horde army with no advantage in numbers.

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I have three Hellcannons and the enemy decided to go ahead and adopt this little formation here.

>>143890272
Same way the Dark Elves do. So yes.

>>143890258
I hope they actually exploit the DLC model to the fullest and give us fleshed out Kislev, Border Princes, Tilea and everything else, unique regional Emprie troops and things like that too.

>>143890804
SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS

Does anyone have the Shogun 2 roll chart?

>>143890584
Probably not totally, you do tend to go a bit slow as Dwarfs early on.

What is this shit. No matter what faction I play as I can't ever take any land. I always run into doomstacks that just force march out of my range, or just sit in these towns with massive fucking Garrisons that you can never take because Sieges are fucking gay unless you have artillery. I'm always the aggressor as well, the AI has never ONCE attacked me. They will always walk by or run away.

Its just retarded games of cat and mouse, or waiting twenty turns to siege someone out of their castle.

Fuck I mad.

>>143890959
Can we have amazons?

I MUST FULFILL MY SLAYER OATH.

>>143890258
Kislev has unique voice acting and an encyclopedia page while Wood Elves have animations in the files already.

TWW is a game where I actually want them to shit out DLC nonstop.

>>143891030
Stop playing on easy, friend.

>>143890819
What about enemy ranged units?

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Why? What's the point in awakening the tribes if they just fight eachother. So far Chaos campaign have been pretty boring

>>143890639
No Goblins are useless angainst cav unless tanking the charge.

>>143890846
Well, lore wise they are a 'horde type' faction. In game I'm hoping for somewhat competent core units with lots of unbreakable plague rats. Maybe a mechanic that allows routed units to rally, then burrow underground and pop up at the front lines again?

>>143890639
GS dont have anti cav

>>143890846
Skaven is a horde army like orcs but function differently. Orcs is a horde army that can kill with their troops. Slave rely on special rules like poison, monsters, war machines and magic to kill stuff. Their troops are the most numerous out of any faction but also the weakest.

>>143891209
Such is life in the chaos.

>>143890393
No, I haven't had issues from the beginning, yes they're tougher than Orcs but you can just send Night Goblin archers around their flanks and loose arrows into them and the poison makes them a joke despite their armor.

>>143891209
Attack them right after awakening them so you can subjugate them.

>>143891087
Only if they balance the game first. Because right now certain factions are blatantly overpowered

And that's not even the worst of the game's ills right now.

I'd say the worst is that no faction uses the entierety of their tabletop rosters, and even then, there's still no reason to use certain units, even in Custom Battle/MP

>tfw Middenheim has been under almost constant siege for 40 turns, with Varg, Skaeling and Rebels alternating who is monster of the week
Just let me build the tier 3 walls so I can murder you all even faster for fucks sake!

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>tfw you have to assassinate a greenshit character for a grudge and it's already at 8 severity but you can't chase any of them down and when you do, the ass never works

>>143891209
You're supposed to attack them the moment you awaken them and make them your vassal. Problem solved.

>>143891353
Well, no Total War game has been balanced on release. Give it a couple of weeks and I'm sure they've released a few balance patches.

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>>143889580
you field your own.

best panzer warfare simulator this world ever fucking seen!

>>143889450
>>143889631
>>143889714
They spawned turn 10 for me.

That was a fucking hassle.

>>143891382
Gordon Ramsay had a sex dwarf?

>>143891270
>>143891306
The problem is that on the table top a massive unit of even the worst troops (night goblins or clan rats) is fucking hard to get rid of even if it's not doing any damage.

With Goblins in TWW they don't have any staying power so you can't even use them as a tar pit.

Does Kislev have unique models? What do they look like? Who else has unique models in non playable races?

>>143891741
He hired five or six of them as escorts for a private party. It was a big scandal at the time.

>>143889580
Varghulfs.

>>143891705
Liar. The trigger for Chaos spawn is imperium 4 or turn 50 for mid game event and imperium 7 or 100 for late game invasion.

Do I go Marrienburg then Middenlanmd

or Middenland then Marienburg?

Warhammer was a mistake

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>it's an 'early-game dwarf campaign and Grimgor just runs dick-first through your settlements as Ungrim tries to keep up' episode

>>143889580
Some guy fielded just steam tanks + lord against Joey and lost. If she can win, then so can you.

>>143891991
Take Marienburg first, swim in mad dosh.

>>143889475
You are excused anon

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>>143891908
:)

>Love da boyz
>They get shit on in multiplayer because their units are inferior

I'm on like a 15 battle win streak with Empire, but Orcs just get fucking shredded by everything.

>>143892248
>Playing a faction that's not ready yet
>Surprised that your game is bugged

>>143892248
>not shown: your cheated research and growth

>>143890863
And then you watched your cannons splatter all of those troops... but 99% of them stood back up

It was a disappointing day.

>>143892351
I wasn't surprised, just pointing out that it happened.

>>143892362
Growth was natural, but the Bret research tree is placeholder and every object took a single turn each, so that might contribute.

>>143889073
If they make Kislev like anything they are in M2 mod, playing is chaous would be fucking impossible

>>143891991
Why do people take Middenland? I usually just grab Marienburg and it's affiliated town so I can issue commandments and then focus on the south/east. Taking Marienburg you get closer to chaos once they start raiding.

>>143892154
How are you meant to win against 25+ units vs your 20 stack in a siege?

How's the game, worth it? Last one I played was Shogun 2 as I didn't think Atilla was worth it.

>>143892536
It's honestly my favorite (at least comparing releases) yet, and I've been playing since Rome 1.

>>143892485
Yeah, research increases your imperium level by a lot. I went with a modified version of http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691279367 which set the invasion at turn 75 and 150 respectively.

>>143892536
It's great fun so far, especially if you already like Warhammer. Game still needs a lot of polish but it's already worth a purchase in its current state. Greenmangaming has the game for 32£ using the 20OFF voucher.

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IT IS FUCKING HAPPENING!
Best bros vs chaos shits
The deathsongs have been sung! Witness the might of dorfs and men!

>>143892523
Easy, leave your westernmost settlement undefended, lay in ambush, kill the army trying to take your city, siege, autoresolve, win war.

>Last one I played was Shogun 2

Good, that means you're already familiar with simplified city mechanics and fast battles.

>>143892510
Temple of Ulric.

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>>143889537
The fuck is up with these odds, are his other stacks all empty?

But then again, OUTTA MY WAY CHAOS FUCKING SHITS.

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>Vampire faggot with a single province declares war
>Drags the Vampire Cunts in with him
>ohshit.jpg
>Wissenland's getting its shit pushed by vampires, so they're willing to confederate
>Their army comp was pretty decent
>Process to push back the Cunts and mop up their lands at lightning speed

>>143892510
Because they are traitorous scum who think the throne belongs to Todbringer

also the bretts can be kept onside via diplomacy

I got a grudge to raid "Essen" which is far to the north of the vampire lands

How the fuck do I do that? I can't possibly cleave through the vamps and raze all their settlements, can I?

>>143892726
>Temple of Ulric.
What does it do?

There have been numerous undisputable masterpieces in Total War, such as the strikingly realistic classic Rome or its medieval counterpart Shogun 2. Total War: Warhammer will not join their ranks; its surface is too generic, its presentation too provocative and its messages too obscure. Its take on the abysmal is an illumination in one person’s despair, but a paroxysm of another’s perversion. It will remain underground – treasured by the most avant-garde among intellectuals for its edifying if horrifying insight into the fundaments of human morality. Philistines and self-proclaimed critics alike will shun Warhammer, but you can’t fault them for that. It takes wisdom to appreciate its subtleties, and courage to side with the unpopular opinion. Sed domi maneas paresque nobis novem continuas fututiones.

Superficially, Warhammer appears to be a game which caters to the most proletarian among men; aloof critics dismiss it as such often without a second thought. As complacent as these self-proclaimed "understanders of strategy" are, they fail to realize that Warhammer is a cult classic, a chef d'oeuvrea buried under false preconceptions and unfounded criticism. This gem is hidden because it does not shine; it is buried because its tone is that of abyssal black. Warhammer pries into to the darkest corners of our subconscious, the most visceral of our cognition, the most carnal of our urges, and the most primal of our instincts.

As brilliantly put by Cattalus, "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"; to describe the artistic qualia of Warhammer would be to describe music to the deaf, color to the blind or beauty to the philistine. The painting speaks for itself, and it is up to the player to fully absorb its depth. Its sublimity will ever be debated yet always remain objectively irrefutable; the fundamental insight it provides into human and perhaps animalistic nature may shape the basis of video gaming for centuries to come.

>>143890608
Chaos is NEVER the issue. It's only the Nord Tribes that actually put out all the hurt and they keep going strong long after Chaos Warriors have been dumpstered.

>>143892317
Recently I tried multiplayer for the first time in TW, and got to rank ~500 in quick battles after going 11:3, playing as Greenskins only. They are playable, but easy to counter because of their very limited tools and potential. Lack of good anti-large units hurts especially.

>>143892808
Huge reduction to corruption in the province and all adjacent provinces, +6 or 7 levels for priest and hunter on recruiting.

>>143892840
>Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo

Every time.

>>143892653
Thanks for the mod link anon. The early Chaos pissed me off so much.

I just want to take part in and survive in the wars of the divided Empire as Stirland, keeping defences in the east to smash down uppidy undead. Not fight the fucking EndTimes straight away.

Its weird because the mix of total war and warhammer is a dream game but I've already lost interest in this. The other total war games seem steadier and its more satisfying to get the content but this just seems like Attila but with barely any playtime. 50 hours and I've completed three campaigns on Very Hard which is ridiculous. Its also disheartening to see the same tired issues that have been pointed out since Rome II still in the game like march stance or Sacking and moving. It makes zero sense that an army could disband, sack a place, then regather and move away in one turns time and it promotes the ai to go mad.

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>cant mod bigger unit sizes because it completely destroys the balance

rip my huge carpets

How do the chances of confederation increase?

Like I have 15 settlements and this other dwarf has 2, and he is pretty beaten up by greenskins, will he accept?

It's currently low chance and he rejects it, but all the other treaties are green. Do I have to do all the others first and wait a few turns?
I'm afraid if I make non-aggression, trade, military alliance etc and then he doesn't want to confederate I will have to renege on all that and go to war

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>tfw you make a mod
>tfw it actually works
She is so beautiful /twg/

>>143891127
that's why you use those against chaos/vampires/greenskins

>>143893063
Factions are more willing to confederate if they are feeling threatened by another race.

I don't have hope for the new factions unless they can prove to us in the next month that they can actually balance this shit so every unit has at least some purpose.

>>143892765
>Grab army led by Thorgrim.
>Present yourself at the gates to Castle Drakelhof itself.
>Fight a bloody battle against Mannfred himself.
>Ignore castle and walk past it.
>Fight for every inch of ground until you reach Essen, your army battered and bruised, but not yet broken.
>Reach Essen.
>Spend one turn raiding.
>Cross out a line in the book.
>"Well, time to go home again, good job guys, someone remember to go tell the widows about their loss, we sure showed those vampires." - Thorgrim Grudgefucker

>>143891887
none of the non-playable factions do

>>143892765
tunnel stance
>>143893230
grudges need to be settled.

ARE YOU A GOD?

after 200 turns its starting to ARE YOU A GOD
get annoying.
ARE YOU A GOD

>>143891887
>Does Kislev have unique models?

Nope. The only unique models i've seen are Norscan lords

>>143892765
Despite this shit being annoying as fuck, I always like the grudges that are completely insane, just seems perfectly Dwarfy.

>>143893402
I REFUSE

>>143891887

What the fuck is with all the people asking about shitty Kislev

Why are vampire cunts so _fun_?

>>143891887
Not unique models only unique voice lines and a single building.

>>143893090
what's it called 'smaller cocks on Lords' so you don't feel like a cuck?

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G R I M G O R
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>>143889791
well, this actually worked
thanks man

>>143893402
SAY MY NAME

>>143893609
nah, I made the reiksguard recruitable from hoveldorf.
Its their main hovel.

>>143893206
> actually balance this shit so every unit has at least some purpose.

I don't even expect every unit to have a purpose, I expect them to be worth the cost if I buy them. VC units sucking cock all around and their high-stats Vamp Lords still getting 1v1'd HARD by "weaker" Lords, Chaos Warriors/Chosen w/ any weapon probably being half as effective as they should be, no spear unit being able to deal with Demigryphs, etc. etc. etc.

>>143892726
but they arent attacking senpai

>>143893793
linku?

>>143893402
SUMMON THE ELECTRO CUNTS never gets old. Karl Franz is pretty based. who is his VA anyway?
>>143893865
I haven't uploaded it yet. Its a WIP.

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never ever

>>143893840
Yeah, I'd like this too.

If a unit is shite, it should at least be cheap.

>>143892840
P R E T E N T I O U S

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>>143893615
Da best?

>>143890771
Are you pre- or post-Archaon?

When Archaon shows up with Sarthorael all the humans and dwarves will ally with you for free, but after you beat him the huge bonuses to diplomacy you got go away

Also defensive lords really hate diplomacy which is dumb but whatever

>>143888574
roll

so is it possible to make the manual projectile aim controls for doom diver+chaos hellcannon NON inverted?

I've just learnt how to use the blasted things and aim them but this wonky lefty righty upsy downsy will be my doom

>>143893402
IIII AM READYY

ARE YOU?

>>143893986
Beastmen missing or is the norscan looking flag the Beastmen flag?

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>>143890608
now play very hard with the increased horde size mod

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>>143893402

I AINT GONNA DIE STANDING HERE

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>>143891306
so like an army of goblins

oh boy.

>>143893986
I wonder which sort of territories will Skaven be able to take.

>>143894186

Beastmen are the banner in Norsca, not sure where CA will put them or how they'll even work for that matter. Just a guess at their location.

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shabat shalom motherfuckers

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>turn 95
>reuniting the clans
>driving the greenskins back
>high throne rebuilt
>VC asking to be able to pay for the privilege of being my vassal
>campaign now crashes whenever i end my turn

what is this? i was really crushing it and had some really good battles that i managed to win through to get here. is there a fix?

>>143894290
Dwarf and Human probably?

Dwarves are free underground fortresses and they live under Humie cities anyway.

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This quest is bullshit. You almost never fight greenskins except really early game or maybe late game.

Is there a reason to use Total War Center beyond mods?

>>143894491
That covers all the Human, Orc, Dwarf and VC territories though.

>>143894439
get out of here akmed

>>143894517
I use it to trigger Humblewarrior and AnthoniousII

I swear I am going to get banned there one day.

>>143893986

>old world will be a massive cluster fuck

i don't see how the difficulty level is going to go through the fucking roof for a faction like the empire

>>143888574
Roll

>>143890393
I had a much different experience, Grudgebearer seems to be more interested in griefing me than stopping the Boody Spears from expanding at his expense. It's a hassle just to get a southern banner going to mop up and still be able to fend him off ,

>>143894508
I blame Chaos invading way too early.

>>143894435
I'm going to speculate and say that they'll work similar to the Chaos Warriors, but with hordes that are invisible when idle in forests and stuff.

That could work.

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Alri lads, I've finally gotten around to it after not playing Attila for a couple months, I have claimed all the lands traveled by the tribes of Israel for the last tribe of God's chosen and the Himyarite Kingdom! Even better, in the process, we have become the strongest people in the world, a sign of our blessings! The apostate Greeks and Romans are no threat and we desire no war with them for now but we must be wary for we may one day plan to expand into the Mediterranean if not just to keep watch over Europe. The perfidious Sassanids, on the other hand, refuse our mercy. We do not question their judgement, they have lost so much their only options are to cannibalize themselves or charge head-first into oblivion, but we grow weary of this war and have no interest in scouring them from the mountains. That is for the future, today we feat, offer sacrifice, and shower our opulence over all our domain!

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wtf, Kholek just grew to massive size on my campaign map.

Whats a good way to keep provinces from constantly rebelling?

>>143894669
You thought the current empire was bad enough?

Now try dealing with that, and also demon raids, and dark elves coming to steal your fucking citizen away, and high elves looking to reestablish their "rightful" colonial clay.

>>143894774
Did you go Pagan or Judaic?

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>>143892840
>As brilliantly put by Cattalus, "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"

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>>143894190
FUCK

INCREASED

CHAOS

HORDES

MOD

>>143894829
No I'm pretty sure that is his normal size. I mean he really is a big guy.

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>>143893986
>That teeny tiny Ulthuan
Please CA...

>>143894831
Captains or the race equivalent. Build the right building. Don't raid your own shit.

>>143894831
build taverns
issue commandments
keep armies in cities
investigations
assign retainers

or just embrace rebellions and use them for easy XP

>>143893986
So who will be the LLs for High Elves?

Finubar for close combat and Teclis for magic? Tyrion for Duelist 3rd? Maybe Imrik?

>>143888574
roll

>>143894954
It's about the same size as the Empire proper. How big do you think it should be?

>>143894946
He wasn't that big before he engaged some VC army. He suddenly increased like 50% in size.
UUUU

>>143894831
>>143894994
>>143895039
And WATCH CORRUPTION

That shit can tank public order if you forget about it.

>>143894883
So cut we look like Spongebob at the end of the episode where he wants to look like Squidward

>>143894508
If you push through to Sylvania the Dwarves and greenskins are always beating the hell out of each other right on those borders, you can pick up some easy fights there and boost your relations with the dwarfs by a bunch at the same time

g-guys i played a normal game as dorfs and the greemskims beat the shit out of me like 40 turns in'
what are some forbidden secret pro strats for dorf campaign mastery?

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Mod for HD fishnets and bloomers for vampire waifu WHEN?!

>>143890608
When I first played my first campaign as Empire on Normal same shit happened. Chaos just got wiped out before they even got past Kislev. Never got to see even any roaming marauder bands.

>>143895249
Abuse the underway you can't get flanked in a straight line.

>>143892691
It was a pretty hairy battle I did it /twg/
dorf 1
chaos scrubbs 0

>>143895279
Whoa this is a blue board

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Sigmar bless him. Through spam of leadership boosting from 3 characters he never broke, and chased them off when their lord died.

>>143895249
Build garrisons everywhere.

>>143895279
Why is she so cute bros? The only reason im doing this boring VC playthrough.

>>143894252
Like an army of goblins if goblins had magic, armour piercing machine guns instead of their shitty bows.
And they replaced their trolls hands with more machine guns.

>>143895387
what no post battle debrief screenshot?

>>143895041
I hope by the time HElves come out they increase the LL roster to at least 3 to match Chaos, maybe more

Also I hope they make Sigvald more impactful (though that's probably asking way to much) because right now he's just Archaon without magic or a horse and with shittier stats

>>143893840
>implying grave guards suck cocks
>implying the other Lords that can 1v1 vampire can also cast spells that kill generals

What's the most underrated faction in Warhammer Fantasy?

>>143895740
Lizardmen but their fanbase is cancer

>>143895519
And flamethrowers. And sniper rifles. And a healthy disregard for the lives of their fellow goblins. Like, if a unit dies or takes damage from friendly fire, all higher tier units gain a leadership bonus instead of a malus.

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>All this shit just appears out of thin air
>All my armies are in the North
JUST

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>>143895519
>>143894252
>Stormvermin

Halberds suck in this game at the moment but assuming they're ever not ass Stormvermin are no joke

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Why do skeletons march with such swagger in this game?

I cant stop watching them

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WHEN?

>>143896006
>implying CA has the guts to put non-evil undead into their game

>>143895904
I'm surprised you didn't see people in these threads talking about that before.

>>143896006
They look like some fun dudes
What's their theme song?

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>>143896006
NOW OR RIOT

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Big shit coming /twg/

that's the lead character artist for TWWH

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Has only heard Empire troops talk about a certain Kruber? Maybe I miss heard but I swore I heard them talking about someone with a similar name and what happened to him after a certain battle where his regiment was wiped out.

>Black Orc archer

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>play a quick battle as greenskins
>have some spare funds so buy 2 goblin units to use as a meatshield
>send them on flank to disrupt cavalry and ranged units
>opponent has to actually assign a unit of infantry to deal with them
>their morale breaks almost instantly and they start running away
>those cheeky fucks are faster than regular infantry so they get away without much loses
>opponent has to spend time to micro their infantry unit back into main fight
>goblins regroup and come back to harass skirmishers again
>this happens multiple time during battle
>2 healthy units of goblins still present on the battlefield at the very end
top kek, i love those guys now

>>143895992
A homage to skeletons of old movies. Like Jason and the Argonauts. The blood pack for shogun 2 was also basically a homage.

>>143896102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk

Too easy.

>>143896173
The fact that they break so quickly and can usually get away is genuinely the best thing about Goblins.

>>143896173
They actually run pretty fast so they're amazing at chasing down fleeing units.

>>143896104
Oh hey, Necron Wraiths!

Reee marienberg fuck of.

All the other campaign have been easy, start empire and marienberg declare war on me with 2 full banners of decent units at turn 7.

Am i expected to be able to take their city with swordsmen and crossbows, or should i just leave them.

Also orc tribes sacking my cities with full banners, whilst i only have enough cash to field 1 army.

>>143895598
All secondary LLs blow anus right now though, Ungrim is the only one that performs even close to the main LL.

Although I guess that's more an issue of magic being crap outside a handful of spells, since most secondary LLs are wizards.

>>143893382
If I tunnel stance through vampire lands, can they attack me?

Or can only dwarves and orcs engage in tunnel warfare?

>>143896139
Black is the new green!

>>143896430
Only orcs and dwarves

>>143895718
Grave Guard Great Weapons are balanced and perform more like how Greatswords should. They're effective but lose to super-elite troops i.e. Chosen. Greatswords shit on everything except for Great Weapon Chosen, and they'll take those down to 15~ men which is effectively useless. They're broken as shit. Normal Grave Guard are actual shit however just because of how the infantry interactions are in this game with the only important stat being Armor Piercing.

The magic doesn't matter, that isn't the point. If you look at a Vampire Lord's stats they imply that he can fight a ton of different Lords at worst evenly and at best coming out with a mediocre win(WITH NO MAGIC). It doesn't actually happen though almost as if the stat cards are wrong or there's a hidden bonus against units classified as Wizards

>>143896430
Anyone can intercept.

They'd have to at war with you though.

>>143896358
Mannfred can do anything Kemmler can, and better

It's kinda sad. If Kemmler started with a hero Krell in his army, as would be appropriate, it would be better.

>>143896430
Everyone can engage in some good old tunnel warfare, but only through interceptions.

>>143896341
I love zooming in on them at the end of a battle as the routes are in full effect and watching them poke the very same enemies who were terrorizing them beforehand

>>143896173
Missing out on release multiplayer is one of the things I regret about holding off on buying the game

>>143896519
Kemmler being sort of a 2 unit hero would be a really cool mechanic too, Krell being a stronger Wight King with some unique talents that cannot be permanently killed.

>>143896430
Yes, anyone can intercept.

>>143896463
This is wrong.

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>>143896350
Watch it bud.

>>143896664
Has anyone ever been as thoroughly btfo as Apophas?

Cunt was punished proper.

>>143896628
>want to put Krell in melee
>want to keep Kemmler out

a 2 man unit in their case would be stupid.

>>143892840
Is this autism?

>>143896626
>>143896626
Early multiplayer is the most fun because there is no metagame yet and everyone is messing around and trying out weird shit.

>>143896358
If the magic-and-artillery-scaling-really-strangely-with-unit-size bug would get ironed out mage LLs would be fine

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Rapemen when?

>>143893840
>Vamp Lords still getting 1v1'd HARD by "weaker" Lords

You just suck, vampires are second only to Witch Hunters when it comes to being able to snipe enemy characterrs.

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GOTREK & FELIX WHEN

>>143896905
They'd have to mosaic it wouldn't they?

>>143896626
No, you are doing yourself such a huge favor.

The balance is busted as all fuck purely because of The Empire. If you just deal with the other races it's not so bad and pretty fun, but the moment you watch an Empire player's hyper cost efficient troops shit all over your line and then their super-cav shit all over your spears and then their 3 FREE DAMAGE OVER TIME SPELL Witch Hunters cycle Accuse on your Lord when he tries to support the battle, etc. etc., you want to uninstall the game and never look back.

Multiplayer battles currently are the ultimate cancer and aren't worth even a slight glance

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>It's a Karl Franz, Louen and Thorgrim vs Archaon, Kholek, Sigvald and Sarthorael battle

What a time to be alive

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>>143896905
Anus cannon when?

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Is it just me, or is the Chaos campaign tedious as fuck?
Dropped it 93 turns in.

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>>143896905
Probably the same time as Wood Elves. Both of them prefer forests as habitat so they'll be able to square in that terrain off like Dwarves and Orcs.

>>143888574
Rollan.

>>143897086
I had a good time with it, only problem is how powerfull you get once you have chosen as base units.

You can siege out numbered 2-1 and still with with less than 300 losses.

>>143893230
>turn 150
>BY THE HAMMER WE NEED A LEVEL 15 ENGINEER, THIS WON'T DO!
>grudge goes completely ham while my engineer slaves away being deployed in some shit province desperately trying to gain experience

idk about this system, it is a bit odd

>>143896510
Magic does matter lol If you're trying to say the game isn't balanced the same the tabletop is you're just being irrelevant and retarded

>>143897086

The slow growth and enemy campaign ai along with no diplomacy options make it the worst campaign I hope they fix is it eventually.

>>143888574
Rollan. I got Sigvald in the last thread, despite entreating Gork/Mork, Sigmar, Morr, Ranald, Ulric, Taal and the Lady to intervene on my behalf, didn't last very long. Here's to hoping I dont get Chaos again.

>>143897086
It's the longest campaign I've played so far. It's like it's divided into two parts, conquering/uniting the wastes takes up the first 50-70 turns, then killing dwarves/empire/bretonnia takes the next 70-100

I like all the campaigns :3

>>143897375
break the rules and go Mannfred first, Kemmler blows

>>143897259
I finished all victory conditions on turn 120, but had to wait till turn 190 to get level 15 engineer as I didn't have any once I received the grudge.

>>143888574
Let's roll to see which one I'll continue

>>143896784
I guess I worded it poorly, I mean that they'd be seaparate, but take up 2 unit cards. So when you select Kemmler, you'd start with Kemmler who is a better Master Necromancer and Krell who is a better Wight King.

>>143888574
Orks or Counts please

>>143897590
Is Kemmler that bad? Is there not a hero that can use life leech and embed him in the army.

>>143895904
I've never seen 5 stacks of the Bjoernlings before, it's always been two or three for me.

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>>143897259
>GRUDGE AGAINST UNDEAD: KILL 3 ARMIES OR GARISSONS!
>last undead town is besieged by Empire

>>143897086
What's tedious about it? You literally go wherever you want whenever you want and rape everything along the way

>>143897818
Vampires can life leech once you get them.

>>143897259
It wasn't possible to sabotage enemy walls or buildings? You get like one level each time.

>>143897818
He's inferior to Mannfred in basically every way, especially because magic is fucked right now

You have to babysit Kemmler with other units to make sure he doesn't get his shit pushed in while Mannfred can actually dive head-first into 3 or 4 units by himself and come out on top

>>143897893
it should go away once their faction is destroyed

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>Mounted Reiksguard Outriders (Trollhammer Torpedo)

>>143897897
and if you lose one battle you are almost fucked

>>143897261
No lol who gives a donkey fuck about that dead game

So just as an example go look at... oh, Mannfred on a Dragon's stats compared to Karl Franz on Deathclaw. They aren't that different and some of them are in Mannfred's favor right?

So instead of some somewhat even fight where one of them eventually wins, Mannfred gets fucking DESTROYED like 75% hp to 0.

I'm talking about purely comparing a unit to another unit based on stats, the magic is irrelevant to what the stat cards say. See what I'm talking about?

Mannfred can cast a damage spell on Karl a few times and kill him, but that isn't related to their stats indicating a non-magic fight would go that bad for Mannfred.

>>143897745
Oh, gotcha, in that case I agree 100%, that's also what I had in mind.

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Any reason I can't recruit Kholek even though I have the Dragon Ogre gathering?

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>>143898013
>get a new grudge: kill 3 empire armies or garrisons
>reason: stopped us from fulfilling our grudge against the undead

>>143898039
>Demigryph Bright Outriders (Grenade Launchers) (Lore of Fire)

My current strategy for Empire in the campaign is to have all of my infantry and ranged units die will slowing down the enemy chariots until the demigryphs can kill everything without any losses.

Has anyone found a better strategy against orcs and NotChaos?

I know you can merge units but can you split them?

>>143896510
>Greatswords shit on everything except for Great Weapon Chosen, and they'll take those down to 15~ men which is effectively useless. They're broken as shit. Normal Grave Guard are actual shit however just because of how the infantry interactions are in this game with the only important stat being Armor Piercing.

Regular Grave Guard aren't even a top tier unit so this is not surprising. Greatsword are specifically Anti Infantry so obviously they perform better than the tanky guys.

And it is ok if the infantry holds the line while the other troops break the army does causing a rout or allowing cav charges into the rear of the enemy infantry.

>>143898204
Wait a turn after building it?

>>143896139
>Steam Demigryph Reiksguard (Lore of Metal)

>>143897897

I hate how RNG uniting the tribes in the north is. Sometimes the skael and varg just spam shit stacks at you and your ally tribes and retake the settlements and sometimes the northern dwarves/kislev and other humans also fuck with you and send stacks to fuck up your allies. It's way too much to defend from in the early game as chaos and it doesn't help that you can't initiate diplomacy with anyone other then chaos tribes.

>>143898289
Kek
That would be the same as getting a free unit

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>>143888574
ROLL

>>143898289
No. That would break the game economy

>>143898041
How can you loose any battle? You can rush chaos warriors during the first few turns of the campaign and snowball really quickly.

What happens when you loose anyway? Sacking give you so much money you can reform an army instantly. It only really sucks when you loose a lord but that really shouldn't happen anyway

why the fuck is the Empire covered in forests?

>>143898012
That sucks, but cant you just have a wight to compensate?

>>143898292
I was comparing Great Weapon Grave Guard to Greatswords fyi

Also, nothing holds the line against Greatswords. You line loses far before you can do anything with your other shitty units to break theirs.

>>143898463

It was like that when they got there?

>>143893402
THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT

>>143898313
>Black Ironbreaker Dragon Ogre (Lore of Vampires) (Halberd)

>>143896228
Sorry, I can't watch that video in my country.

>>143898463
Why not?

>>143898463
what would you like it to be covered in senpai?

>>143898463
because Bretonnia takes the lands razed by chaos and they have some sort of forest corruption. It is probably a tie in for the wood elves and how their campaign is going to work.

WTF, why do my leaders always get the worst fucking traits? First my Thorgrim got 'Likes Greenskins (-10 leadership).' Then after restarting the camping, the first trait he got was 'unjust (-1 public order). help plsss

Do you unlock the ability to play as minor factions after you complete a campaign victory?

>>143897387
>MFW Dwarves were killed by Greenskins before I even got to the Empire lands
>MFW Someone else got rid of Bretonnia for me.

It honestly felt kinda disappointing, especially when Franz last stack was raped by a roaming Top Knotz horde out of nowhere while i sieged Altdorf.

Now I'll have to start the ethnic cleansing of the world, good thing I have the week-end free

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>>143888574
roll

>>143898463
There be beastmen.

>>143898601
>>143898616
because historically Europe never had so few forest areas than during the middle ages

>>143898537
Well are you talking about multiplayer? Cause you're either using the GS yourself in the campaign or you never even face them cause the AI is utterly retarded and fields nothing but mortars and pistoliers.

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>>143896905
Is he going to headfuck his enemies to death?

What are the odds that CA will announce the first expansion at E3?

>>143898742
Well it's a good thing we are neither in the middle ages nor in Europe.

As vamps should I merge units? It's so easy to get a 20 stack from resurrections

Quick question. I enabled unit recruitment for the reiksguard at hoveldorf. Please make me the next radious
>>143893865
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=694207242
there you go famalam.

>>143898347
You don't have to do that though, I just wrecked 80% of the settlements in the north early game (I didn't actually fight any of these because it was just my chaos warriors vs shitty marauders) then I went south to wreck to human settlements.

Turns out in the end the Skaeling wiped out everyone in the north but who cares? It's not like I have to fight them and they're still chaos anyway, I just keep going south they'll destroy whatever remain behind/around me

>>143898742
most forests in europe didn't have armies of demon beasts in them either

>Going to play coop with friend.
>Cant place the same faction.

what the FUCK. Is there a fucking mod for this?

>>143898636
You only get unjust if you spam a captives option (I think it's kill)

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>>143898758
Perhaps.

>>143898980
since day one

How the fuck do Waaaghs work?

Do orks literally get a free 20 stack when their army gets big enough?

>>143898459
guess you never enjoyed 4 stacks of kislev chasing you all around the map

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>six days since the release of TW:WH
>still no mod to give Estalia a Spanish aesthetic
>still no mod to give Tilea an Italian aesthetic
>still no mod to give Kislev a Slavic aesthetic

>>143898769
is CA at e3?

>>143898463
Beastmen, goblins and other kinds of nasty shit
Elector Counts often appoint entire batallions with clearing the forest off vermin and it's still not enough.

>Hit an enemy unit right in the center with a full power foot of Gork
>Giant green god comes out of nowhere and stomps on them
>literally 0 damage

What's even the point of shamen.

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>>143898463
Because no sane man or woman wants to be working those trees... there be dark things in those woods..

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>Do my first Greenskin playthrough
>Keep getting attacked by Dwarves and other Orcs from both sides
>Cant complete any provinces without making new enemies
>Make a second army to help with the load and now my upkeep is so bad I cant even afford buildings.

Jesus fuck, is this just a bad run or how it typically goes?

>>143899035
It's an ai army that spawns after yours, you have to tell them what to attack and hope they do it

It's also pretty hard to get one up but once you do shit's easy

>>143890258
Kislev
Beastmen
Wood Elves

In that order.

Minor factions like Estalia, Tilea and Border Princes will be released as single DLC.

>>143899194
>wood elves

I fucking hope so.

>>143899058
CA refuses to let modders import/export models

>>143899117
Their point is - buffs and debuffs. The big aoe damage spells are in some serious need of rebalancing at the moment.

>>143898980
The game literally launched with a mod that allows you to do that.

>>143899137
you gotta get a waaagh going, fight enough and youll get one, thats how you expand.

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>>143899263
fucking catastrophic

>>143899137
Make a giant army with no regard for upkeep, then raid and sack. Don't play it like a normal campaign.

Reposting from last thread because it is still relevant.

What would you guys think if they broke up the province types further than they already did, and gave different factions different types of territories they could take, varying by faction. For example, orcs can take badlands type territories and dwarf holds. Vamps can take human territories and dwarf holds. Southern humans can take human territories and Orc badlands. This would continue varying by faction and types of territory. I also want someone to be able to seize Norsca.

How would you guys like this in the campaign?

>>143898972

I did this on my third try and just ran straight for the empire after sacking some of kislev and now the empire is down to two settlements on my current chaos play through but its still just a boring campaign. You sped 95% of the time running from city to city sacking/looting and autoresolving battles while dodging the ai stacks. I assume it gets more fun once you get chosen and monster units but the growth system is retarded for chaos and yes I specced my LL into growth.

>>143899409
Hey its not our fault this time. You can thank the brits this time.

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>>143899263
>modding will be available after all!
>but hey, you can only use the handfull of assets we made for the game, as we know you all love mods that use nothing but them, like Radious :D

pls resbond to my mod.
i will post a spurdo

>>143899148
well here's what i'm not understanding.

the in-game tool tip seems to make out that once the army that spawns the waaagh gets wiped out, the waaagh goes as well.

I just did that and then the waaaagh attacked my remaining army in the same turn.

do I have to wait a turn for the waaaagh to disappear or was it from a different army?

>>143899028
>>143899351
What?? Sauce me my niggas.

>>143899263
wait... is this a final decision or just "not yet"?

I am scared

>>143897236
How did you deal with Kislev sending 3 stacks at you?

>first campaign
>Kislev rapes me 15 turns

>second campaign
>spend 50 turns plundering northmen
>upgrade my horde and get chaos warriors as base units
>get raped by 3 kislev doomstacks

>>143899409
As a company they have a reason though - it would reduce their dlc sales

>>143899058
Shouldn't Border Princes have a Romanian/Greek aesthetic too?