/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

>>143858545
>can't do Watch and Learn because the guy who randomly added me hasn't been online in a week
>can't ask /hsg/ for help because they would laugh at me for my shitter rank

>>143858716

I add shitter ranks for W&L all the time. No one seems to care. Just be yourself!

>>143858716
nic098765#2312
I have a shitty rank to, 19

>Buy LoE and Blackrock
>Make 2 control-ish decks with Reno and that elf bitch
>Fold to every aggro deck I see

I've had enough, I'm dusting everything and making a Shaman deck.

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I hate that blizzard nerfed hunters mark. Its like hunters are already crippled and you just fuck them up even more while leaving fucking shield slam and execute intact. Fuck you ben cant balance brode

>>143858716
>>143858789
>>143858840

May I add you fellow shitters once my shift is up? I'm another lame shieldbearer in dire need of some scrub buds to grow into the game with.

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REKT FOR LIFE MOTHER FUCKER

>>143859329
What am I looking at? Why crop screenshots?

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Ty Summoner's Stone

>Not being matched into Shamans every game
>Game is quite enjoyable

this meme yogg druid deck is pretty fun.

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Would you play it?

>>143859385
too tired to hide names

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How can i improve this deck?
It's floatin' at about a 60% winrate at the moment, i mostly lose to Shamans and Rogues

>>143859462
> 2 mana 8/8 by turn 2

>>143859462
If this card existed people would stop using emotes :'(

>>143859608
yeah, remove cthun and associated cards except cult sorcerer

>>143859680
So you're sayin' freeze mage is better?

>>143859665
Good

>>143859737
Well, it is, but I was actually thinking tempo mage, since your deck is already quite similar

>>143859608
arcane blast instead of missiles

>>143859608
-1 flamestrike, -2 cabalist tomes, -1 cult sorcerer, +1 drake, +2 mana wyrm, +Vek'Lor (do not play Cthun decks if you don't have him). Fitting Arcane intellects would be good too. Maybe take out elementals. Also put Brann instead of something else if you add Vek.

>>143859836
I don't have Vek'Lor or Brann
>>143859825
Or Arcane Blast

WHAT THE FUCK DO I PLAY WHEN I'M POOR AS FUCK? :'(

>>143859737
I think he is implying you should just use the usual tempo mage.

>>143859915
zoo

>>143859938
What is a good Zoo deck senpai?
pls help

>>143859915
Zoo or shaman. Also, they happen to be the most disgustingly broken decks around.

>No removal to kill turn 1 mana wyrm/rogg
Why aren't they a 1/2? Isn't the attack buff enough to distinguish it from goldshire footman?

>>143860131
goldshire footman is not a class card

>>143860131
But Goldshire has T A U N T famiglia

>>143860198
WHY DO YOU CALL?

>tier 1 netdecks in casual

how do i do my quest

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>granma will never stalk you

>>143860542
concede those?

>>143860542
Is your wild rank in the dumpster? go there

>>143860568
its all of them tho

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What the fuck happened to casual, I am so pissed off

I am only Rank 13 in ranked yet I want to play casual and I get rocked by all these amazing decks

>>143860730
casual has nothing to do with your rank

>>143860762
Well I just want to do with Warrior quest and my shitty pirate deck that I use has went from 60% to 35%

>>143860730
hearthstone is dying. the only people playing are people whove been playing since beta and thus have full tier 1 netdecks and only play those. theres no one in the middle, nor is there anyone other than meme streamers playing anything other than tier 1 netdecks

anyone rank 20 right now?

What percentile does it say you are in?

>tfw I have a 90% winrate deck, smash shitters in casual and am top 100 legend NA
Feels good man

>>143860890
>NA
might aswell be rank 15 eu

Hey guys can someone log onto my account and finish off my dailies? Been falling behind since OW came out and don't really have the motivation to clear em all out. Got 1 watch and learn and 2 rogue wins. (Don't have the cards for miracle rogue sadly) Thanks.

Account info:
E-mail: [email protected]
Password: BobbyTheFriendlyGuy1A@
PIN: 12331341 (valid for the next 40 seconds.)

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what this

N'Zoth Paladin has restored my faith in the light. Don't care that Tempoturds dropped it down to tier 2. Most fun deck I've ever played in this game. Gave paladin its nobility back after the travesty that was secret paladin.

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>>143860996

>>143860730

Casual is harder than ranked until about rank 4.

>>143861383
>N'Zoth Paladin has restored my faith in the light. Don't care that Tempoturds dropped it down to tier 2.
this is hearthstone now. every player will not play anything unless it is on one of the OP linked websites

>>143860996
wtf

>>143860879
We won't know til the first, brah

>>143861594
if you go into your quest log, and hover over your rank it says the percentile

>>143861373
WoogeyBoogeyMonster

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Tons of fun/10

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Post cards that triggers you

>>143861812
Flamewaker, Mysterious Challenger, Trogg, 477 when I have no hard removal.

>>143861812
>tfw play Shaman.
>tfw you threaten and rope when you have lethal.
Ye nigga. Climbing all the ranks.

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>>143861812
thank fuck it's gone

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Any suggestions? I don't own xaril and thalnos yet

>Mage turned out to be the worst class.
I kind of knew it in my heart. Climbing ladder was a pain in the ass with the shitty neutered tempo mage.

>>143861812

Two 1/1 Whelps

>>143861670
Oh, no kidding, thats pretty neat. Not rank 20 though, sorry.

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gallywix or tbk? I'm leaning towards black knight here but gallywix is great too

heartharena wants the 3/4

>>143862109
Finley? No poison?

>Guy is running weird ass shit I wasn't expecting.
Fuck your homebrew shit, faggot. Kill yourself.

>>143862282
Go with Black Knight since spells aren't that common in arena

>>143862282
If taunts weren't so common in arena, gallywix for sure. But they are.

>>143862282

HEY PAL

Seriously every time I've ever drafted TBK in arena (2) he never got value. Rarely in my hand when they had taunts on board. And lot of arena decks aren't able to even draft a single taunt. I'd go with the Spider Tank or the pseudo-Ogre that might give you a spell.

>>143862282
Blackknight, not even a contest now that bog creeper is insta pick.
Your curve looks a bit too heavy for a rogue.

>>143862282
I'd take gallywix just for the stats

>>143862334
>Fuck your homebrew shit, faggot. Kill yourself
>cant reference cheat sheets for decklists

get rekt shitter

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>tfw lose because he plays yogg

>>143862486
>tfw you lose as shaman
The wins come easy but when I lose tears start to fucking well up in my eyes and i hit my table

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>>143862486
>tfw you win because he plays yogg

>>143862587
Made me spit my drink onto my lap, 10/10

>>143862486
> tfw lose because he plays *trogg

Fixed that for you

>>143861812
Dr Boom. I never want to see that thing again.

From Standard, Brawl. I've lost so many games from the RNG just fucking me in the ass leaving their biggest minion alive.

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>>143861812
xddd

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>>143862336
>>143862392
>>143862393
>>143862409
>>143862416

I took TBK.

Now what?

>>143860996
LOL did someone actually change my password? Do you realize how easy it is for the original CC holder to change it back?

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>>143862758
hi

>>143862794
How easy would it be to get the cards he dusted back

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>>143862587

>>143862792
I wanna say KT here. Onyxia is great.

>>143862792
Onyxia is godlike in arena, i'd take her

DID YOU BRING SOME FISH ? NO I BROUGHT A 3 MANA 6/6 WITH 2 BODIES. HEHEHE TIPS 477

>>143862947
> get cucked by shamans whose Tuskarrs always summons Totem Golems or mana totem
> try to play shaman myself
> always get the crappy 1/1 totem

Luckily the class is retarded so I win anyway

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GUESSING TIME

>>143863067
>shaman gets golem from fisherbringer
>arcane blast for 0 for 4 and outtempo the shit out of him
>he cant pop my iceblock
>i burst him down
ERECTION OBEY MY COMMANDS

>>143862792

When you're done, post how many times you TBK'd something pls. For science.

>>143863190
>arcane blast
>ice block
what am I looking at

>>143863081
I dunno the sound it makes when played, so boogeymonster.

MY SHIELD FOR ARGUS

>>143863228
tempo mage with 1 iceblock and yogg

>>143863228
He's playing that retarded chink mage.

>>143863327
wow there mate. Im playing my own list. I played 1 iceblock in tempo mage since blackrock

>>143862860
It's actually trivial just tell blizzard you were hacked and they'll roll you back and since I hadn't played since OW was released even if the roll back is a week back it's no big deal.

>>143863207
Probably gonna play it tomorrow or the day after depending on how I feel, not feelin' it today. I don't mind TBK because it gives me more options, like usually the meta play is to overextend before bog creeper turn or get fucked by the giant ass taunt, which in turn gives you a chance to lose to flamestrike.

Is priest the only viable dragon list?

477 should have been a totem

>>143863401

Plenty of dragon lists are viable. Problem is other controllish decks from the same classes are more viable.

>>143863435
the 0 mana card for +2 life
479

It's a take 2 minutes a turn playing zoo type of episode

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>Agains pirate Warrior
>Don't draw ooze
>Lose
Loving this aggro meta

>>143863435
instead of overload(2) it should give all your minions +1/+1

>>143863726
Losing to the shittest deck ever

git gud

>>143863435
>>143863630
>>143863730
it should summon two 1/1 totems that explode on death for 1-4 dmg

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Wat do?
Also I chose Stand against Darkness against a Shattered Sun, was that good or no?

>>143863842
the dragon and no, it wasn't

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>>143863789
>Losing because of bad draws
Yeah, I sure need to get good : ^)

>doing quest
>first two enemies play twilight elder with no c'thun

you fucking retards know that it's dumb, right?

>>143863067
>Shaman missplays throughout the match
>Still lose anyway

>>143864025
I never get people like that.

You're in the same matchmaking range as them.

>>143864025
When you're f2p you have to focus on curve

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What do I pick /vg/ ?

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Why does this deck have a super high win rate vs Warrior

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>mfw get shat on my Face Hunter in Wild

Why is this even a deck?

>>143864293
5/1 priest cant ping

>>143864213
But at that point why not just slap C'unt in your deck?

>>143864293
Magma rager obviously, priest has no way to deal with it apart from wasting Death on it

>>143855197
Serious question.
What cards have blatantly wrong text?
New player here.

>>143864308
I don't know and I lose a lot to it.

Maybe it's because I don't mind trading hp for value/board since I can armor up again, meanwhile he keeps throwing huffers at me and at some point he topdecks call of the wild and it's all over.

>>143864293
Magma rager

>>143864308
midrange hunter was always good against warrior. you put out more pressure than they can deal with consistently. huffers/mishas/highmanes are ugly to clear with weapons. highmanes and wolves take a lot of removal to clear because they replace themselves.

>>143864419
Tunnel Trogg for one

>>143864372
>>143864397
It died to C'thunc'thun.

>>143864347
I mean by face hunter.

Stupid phone

>play Zoo on NA
>easily get to rank 5
>play the same deck on EU
>can't get past rank 16

No wonder you mongrels keep complaining about zoo when you don't do absolutely anything to counter it.

>>143864025
M8 I'm not gay, but 3 mana 3/4 is 3 mana 3/4

When playing ranked, do you guys stick with one deck, or do you like to change every few matches?
As for me, I don't really change deck that often, unless i happen to be losing a lot.

>>143859407

Wow...

>>143864476
What's wrong with it?
Whenever you overload it gets +1 attack per locked crystal. That's how it works and that's how the description goes.

>>143864557
lmao who gives a fuck, if all you're looking for in a deck is a good value drop for a certain mana cost your deck is shit

>>143864663
i usually play a deck all day unless i lose something like 5 games in a row, then i switch to aggro shaman to get back to where i started

>>143864546
is there a deck that counters zoo and shaman? I know as soon as you build to counter one, I'll just face the other.

>>143859407
Amazing.

>>143864705
>Whenever you overload it gets +1 attack per locked crystal
I doesn't though
Let's say you play Feral Spirit. You overload and have 2 locked mana crystals. Trogg gets 2 attack. So far so good.
Now the same turn you play another Feral Spirit. You overload but you now have 4 locked mana crystals. If it went by the wording it should gain 4 attack for the total of 6. But it only gets 2 for total of 4.

>>143864663
One deck till rank 5 then I play whatever

Why does figuring out a convoluted way to get exactly lethal out of your cards and board and having just enough time to execute it before your turn ends feel so good?

>>143864805

"Tempo" Warrior

>>143864891
Per locked crystal of that overload instance anon.
Every time you trigger overload, it checks how much that one overload locked and increases his damage. You have to intentionally misinterpret the text in order to make it seem that it takes the total of locked mana crystals in consideration.

It's not the best description but it's hardly blatantly wrong.

>>143864956
because it's the only real thinking in this entire fucking game

>Shitfag opponent clears your Trogg, your Tuskman and the totem golem he summoned.
FUCK YOU RETARD FUCKING SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

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>>143863238
>>143863081
It's SOGGOTH

>>143865248
>He plays Shaman
>He gets EXTREMELY angry when someone somehow manages to clear all his bullshit overpowered minions
>He calls someone else retard
>While playing Shaman

>>143865105
>Per locked crystal of that overload instance anon
It doesn't say that anywhere. You are filling the gaps in the wording because you are familiar witht he game, but the original wording suggests different.
>You have to intentionally misinterpret the text
Not at all, you only need to literally read the text and apply basic logic to it.

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>tfw you stop playing fun decks just so you dont give free wins to zoo and shaman shitters

>>143865423
You can actually read the description in 2 ways.
One is where you read the "locked" as an adjective and the other is as a verb. If you read it as a verb, it implies that you gain only as much as has been locked. If you read it as adjective it's the way you say it.

>>143865531
>it implies that you gain only as much as has been locked
Yeah, but it still doesn't say locked JUST NOW. I don't know anon, this interpretation seems pretty wonky to me

>>143862587
>>143865248
Are all Shaman players "that kid"?

Why do people complain about aggro decks or decks like Shaman or Zoo or Face Hunter and such as 'cancer' all the time, and yet Control Warrior gets a free pass?

Control Warrior is the most brain-dead deck in the entire meta. It's literally just armor gain, removal, some card draw and some big endgame threats with absolutely zero thought required to achieve victory. Aggressive decks need to calculate how to avoid overextending, achieve lethal quickly while avoiding letting the opponent do the same, they actually have skill involved. Control Warrior on the other hand is just a question of how much of your wallet you put into the game.

And then on top of that, matches against it take forever. Other decks will at least do you the service of killing you quickly or dying themselves. Control Warrior will happily just go to fatigue holding its dick doing fuck-all as it just builds up and waits.

>>143865818
>and yet Control Warrior gets a free pass?
I don't know anon, I feel like we make fun of euphoric warrior quite a lot

>>143865696
Whenever you lock your crystals you he gains 1 attack per locked (verb) crystal. It doesn't need say right now because it's implied because it's talking about the act of locking crystals.
If you read it as an adjective, then you would need to explain if it's right now or in total. So if it's as it is, it would imply for every crystal that is locked at the triggering moment, so your example would be correct.

Either way the description is bad because it's not clear and blizzard should make sure to fix that and several other things that aren't clear. But they won't do that because too much text scares the average Blizzard fanboy.

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Something tells me BGH is a good pick

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>>143865818
You, dear sir, obviously don't know all the intricacies and fullfillment that playing the most tought provoking, skill intensive deck of Hearthstone provides. I suggest you to donate your neetbux income to Blizzard as I did, so you can experiment the joys that a full golden Control Warrior provides, not to mention support one of the best developer there is. Also there is no God.

>>143866081
BGH can win you arena games by himself.

>>143866081

You have Djinni+Divine Strength combo. Why are you not doing it?

>>143866081
Solid choice,compared to your other 2 cards.

>>143866081
>Djinni
Shit in arena
>Hungry Crab
Too Situational to be good
>BGH
Can Snipe a Rag or Deathwing

What is the most boring deck to play against as an aggro shitter? I want to make it so that even if I don't win, they have to spend fucking 15 minutes to take me down

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>This fucking arena
Gonna have one hell of a time tomorrow.

Hope I don't go 1-3 again.

>>143865818
Because I'm playing N'Zoth Paladin and Rogue, so they are free wins.

>>143864419

Mistcaller is one, it says it buffs every card in your hand and your deck, which is objectively not what it does. It buffs every card in your hand and every card you DRAW. Cards in your deck are unchanged until added to your hand through the draw mechanic.

This is known because anything that puts a card into play bypassing draw shows the cards unchanged.

Anything that says it "revives" a minion is also not reviving anything, it simply summons a copy.

There is other shit here and there, but I can't remember/think of it.

>>143866563
Definitely Priest. They always lose in the end, but everything they do is aimed at bore you to death. I always concede at mulligan when I'm in casual and I face a Priest autist.

>>143866563
Freeze mage can take a while especially if you don't save your spells and use them for removal. Also one of the best counters to zoo.

>what to play the decks I want
>destroyed by aggro

>make anti aggro deck
>can still easily get destroyed by aggro because I lost at mulligan

incredible

>>143862827
3 mana 6/6 lel

>>143866563
After playing some midrange shaman today I have to say priest.
Yo have no idea how infuriating it is to draw excavated evil when topdecking for 8 turns straight

>freeze mage
>can't get past rank 14
>craft a couple cards to play the zoo deck off tempo storm
>already rank 10 and climbing
I wish I had done this earlier

>Not playing MtGO instead.
Even with the retarded interface it's still a better experience.

>>143866614
Looks like an average pally deck for me - deathwing.

Will Arena ever be as good as it was in classic days?

>>143866661
>Anything that says it "revives" a minion is also not reviving anything, it simply summons a copy.
Ah yes, I had fun with that one in the Rafaam vs Keltazad brawl.
Summon one of the strong minions and keep reviving them. Managed to have a full board of the one that deals 4 damage to a random enemy.
Fun times.

But outside that one instance does it matter in practice? Hearhtstone doesn't really have a graveyard and how many cards actually review minions?

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>>143866795
>>143866691
How does this look?

>>143867121
Shadow word: Horror is a consideration

what does Cthun Rogue look like? Is there a better budget Rogue deck for completing quests?

>>143867346
face rogue

>>143867056
>Will Arena ever be as good as it was in classic days?
No. With every new expansion they will only increase the number of cards in arena, meaning less of a chance of making a somewhat decent deck and more clusterfucks of random combinations because even the best draw can't do shit when it's RNGrena.

I like that some of the cards that were rotated out can be used, but the sheer number of cards makes such a random draft mod impossible to work well and it's bound to get worse with more cards. The rarity means nothing when the game ends up giving you a choice between 2 shit legendary and 1 good that simply doesn't work in your deck. making sure that every deck will have X epic and Y legendary would at least be a step in the right direction.

>>143867121
Really says something about priest as a class when you intentionally try to make a deck that draws out the game but in reality is only about 4 cards off standard priest

>>143867346
2 versions:
1) Only running C'thun, twin Emps, Diciple and Balde of C'thun
2) Running every fucking C'thun card in the book
I'd go with first and a lot of control, C'thun is like a wincon, but you don't rely on it.

>>143867587
Dont have Twin Emps

FUCK TEMPO MAGE

i killed off all his tempo to the point where he had to topdeck cards to stand a chance

GUESS WHAT HIS FUCKING DRAWS WERE

AI INTO AI INTO CABALISTS WHICH HAD ANOTHER CABALISTS INSIDE OF IT, INTO ANOTHER CABALISTS INTO CONJURER INTO ANOTHER COUNJURER


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>143867421
I think a good idea would be to implement guaranteed class cards every 3rd draw and guaranteed rare or better every 6th.

>10 guaranteed class cards
>5 of them rare of better

Then maybe make 29 a guaranteed legendary.

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>want to run murlock
>only rarely win because I don't have enough murloc cards
>can't buy more murloc cards because I rarely win
what do?

>>143867779
>2 conjurers and tome
He probably loses to every aggro deck

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Poorfag player here, I just started playing a broke-ass Tempo Mage with C'thun and just shot from being mostly stuck around Rank 17 to Rank 11 and climbing.

Using a really cheap-ass deck here... (besides my lucky Bloodmage Thalnos I opened) no Flamewakers is the biggest drawback since I don't have the fat stacks of gold to play Blackrock Mountain, but yet I'm doing alright.

Any feedback on how to further improve it, preferably keeping in mind that I can't afford to throw legendaries or adventure cards in easily?

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>>143867779
>play mage
>use cabalist and get another cabalist 4 times
>all the time I had 2 Flamewanker in the board
>hand full of cheap removals

>>143859462
That's incredible!

>against zoo
>dont draw aoe
gg

>>143868008
If you really want to play that archetype, I'd remove the 3 mana twilight cthun nigger and add another poly. Also remove blizzard, add 2nd flmastrike

>>143868005
He probably loses to just about everything. The new tempo mage is terrible even before you add in something dumb like Tome.

>>143868145
Why is it so bad all of the sudden? I remember getting to rank 5 with it last season

>>143868145
>>143868005
What's with the hate for Tome?
You lose some temp that turn but it's damn worth it most of the times because of the spells you get.
If you use it late game you won't even feel the effect of it and you will probably be able to use one of the spells right afterwards. Probably even two because it's quite common to get cheap stuff like secretes and frostbolt.

>>143868264
It's not, they are memeing. Just yesterday that one chink won a ferrari with it

WHY THE FUCK DOES NERUBIAN PROPHET KEEP EVOLVING INTO REND
I DONT WANT YOU REND
YOUR STATS FUCKING SUCK

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>>143868316
>Just yesterday that one chink won a ferrari with it

>>143868115
I was thinking about switching Blizzard for a second Flamestrike, yeah, but I don't know about dropping Twilight Elder. I don't have any decent body on turn 3 that way, Disciple of C'thun is a very reactive card, and without Flamewaker I don't have any other bodies I can put down until turn 4, which hurts my tempo in a number of matches.

>>143868453
There was this eu vs cn tournament, if a chinese player were to win, he'd get a ferrari from some chinese company CEO. Finals was some chink vs kolento and the chink won

Why on earth does this game make so angry? I can stand losing in every other game and don't even mind the verbal abuse in other online games but I get fucking triggered hard when I lose in this shit.

>>143868559

Took me a while to stop getting mad at this game. Just remember all the bullshit is out of your control. Relax and expect horse shit to happen, and it doesn't seem so jarring or surprising.

>>143868559

Because losing in HS feels bad because you are only minimally involved.

You weren't outskilled or outplayed. You just got countered/out top decked/out mulliganed and it feels terrible.

>>143868540
Using tempo mage?

>>143868559
a lot of shit that causes you to lose is outside of your control (rng)

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>>143867258
>>143867585
This lasted 25 minutes. Poor guy was a Cthun priest who ended up killing himself by drawing fatigue for 8 damage

>>143868303
I don't hate tome, but my problem with it is it makes mages 5 drop slot too clunky and numerous

>>143868669
That was one of his decks

>>143868669
He used Tempo Mage with Yogg and Cabalists Tome.

Yogg actually closed out a grand finals match against Kolento.

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>all this setup
>zero pay off because he conceded seconds later

I JUST WANT TO MALYGOS SOMEONE FOR ONCE GOD DAMN.

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What's the play?

>>143868808
>conceding when opponent sets up an impressive lethal so they can't get the payoff

Some people are just terrible human beings.

>>143868928
use your fucking brain

>>143868928
Trade, Dire Wolf, Squire.

Is this your first trip to the zoo buddy? This is basic shit. You grip board control with a vice-like tightness and never let go

So... does hunter beat zoo lock or something? Or have I just been getting bad hansd

>>143868648

You just listed reasons why it SHOULDN'T feel as bad to lose a HS game compared to others.

I'm not upset when my opponent topdecks a Reno but if I'm playing a different game and the opponent just straight up outclasses me in every way I feel pathetic and angry towards myself.

>>143869057
bad hansd

>>143868928
Kill it, play squire and wolf

>>143868928

Are you retarded?

No wonder you are rank 8 with zoo on the last day.

>>143869051
I went with Imp Tap trade

>>143869203
>rank 8

>>143869057
You've been playing like a shitter

>>143869203
Zoo tips!

Flame Imp is not the best one drop. Possessed villager is, with argent squire a reasonable second. They are stickier, which is much more valuable than Flame Imp's raw stats.

>>143869051
Why squire over imp with 2 other minions on board?
i don't play zoo[/spoiler ]

Post the chink tempo mage.

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>>143869557
What do you think about running Bilefin Tidehunter? It's a 2/1 and a 1/1 taunt, which is both board presence and trade disruption on the risk of getting AoE wiped

Smh senpai his next play is bloodhoof brave flame imp should be on board to trade up with it

>>143869838
No it isn't, he already played coin

>>143869557
I always try to get imps outta my hand because they get worse as the game drags on. I'll keep this in mind though.

>>143869751
It's a reasonable choice. I haven't tried it though. I'm still pretty new, never actually even played Zoo, or been to rank 8 yet since I have such limited deck selection.

But I still have learned enough to know what the proper procedure is at least.

>>143869923
You're right should have payed more attention to the image

>>143869557
Argent squires are better if you have buffs in hand or an Argus

Villagers are better if you have a Councilman

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>end up in a draw against millshitter

>>143860838

>Hearthstone is dying

It's been dying since the beta. Give it a rest with this meme already.

>>143870487
By the way, does draw ruin my win streak? I assume it does but now I lost all motivation to keep playing because of this fucker.

>on curve doomhammer
>face every turn + burst
>unwinnable

haha, what a game mark!

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>ooze in starting hand vs shaman
>20 cards later he still hasnt played doomhammer

Anyone know if N'zoth brings back minions who I gave Deathrattle effects? Thinking about making a N'zoth Shaman deck

>>143870748
>Two thousand & 12
>Still running Doomhammer

>>143870797
no, it doesnt count 'artifical' deathrattles like raptor or ancestral spirit

>>143870748

Some mid shamans are cutting doomhammer completely and Lust/Al'Akir is now their finisher. Too many oozes and Harry now.

When it comes to shaman, people netdeck Loyan, and he has no Doomhammer.

>>143870797

No, the nzoth revive will bring cards back if their default stat is deathrattle, not if they had it when they died or not.

>>143870867
>>143870897

Hm that kinda sucks even if it makes sense. Thanks for the answer. Really want to make something different with Shaman but I dunno what

>4 MANA
>7 ATTACK
>7 MANA

>>143870797
I wish. Nzoth/Explorer's Hat would be sick. Oh wait, Hunter's best minion already has deathrattle

I can't find a right deck to play and have fun

what the fuck does Hunter play like nowadays? Is Reno Hunter a thing?

>>143870869
I have no fucking idea whats going on with shaman decks anymore
ive ran into shamans with elemental destruction and stormcrack and it seems to be completely arbitrary if they have 477 and doomhammer or not

Is this game the meme Gwent I've been hearing about?

>>143871021
>+2 TROGG ATTACK

>>143871124

People are just throwing random shit into aggro shaman to pretend they aren't but they are only 2-4 cards different.

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>>143871021
>mfw when making that cocksucker follow the rules

I fucking hate this theme of corrupting classes I used to respect. First paladin with their gay aggro/Mystero shit, now this.

>>143871339
>opening yourself up to earth shock

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>>143871021
>>143871162
And this is my turn 3 play
>It's okay because it's random!!
NOT IT'S FUCKING NOT! TUSKARR TOTEMIC GETS MORE THAN HIS VALUE SHOULD ALLOW MORE THAN HALF THE GOD DAMN TIME


>>143871339
FUCK BLIZZ FOR RUINING SHAMAN

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>Beeeeh?

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Noobie here, just finished tutorial against the 5 heroes. Question about this card, Does it work against any card or is there a limit to its OPness?

>>143871448
POLY BOYZ

>>143871448
Why would you ever pick the others? It's not like you have secrets, and sheep is amazing.

>>143871541
Any card that isn't immune to spells, which is like 4 cards in the game total and none of them are in common use

>>143871541
There are a handful of minions that cant be targeted by spells but none of them are relevant so yes its technically unlimited, go crazy

>>143871541
In practice it isn't that OP, since you only have two per game. But yeah, it works against almost anything.

>>143871441
>faceshitters that play that faggot-ass 7/7 are smart enough to target their own minions

Come on, now.

>>143871541
it can't go face. That's the big weakness.

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>>143871124
>ive ran into shamans with elemental destruction

I run a retarded evolve control shaman that uses all 3 6-cost-play-for-0 minions. pretty dank ele destructing a board to plop down 2 volcanic drakes and 2 prophets and not evolving them since i dont have the card

>>143871145

It's even better than you've heard.

Greetings, friend ;)

>>143871145
>Gwent

Oh fuck, that DLC's out like today, isn't it? Shit. I gotta work.

>>143871865
You made me realize I haven't encountered a pure face hunter in like 80 games

>>143871593
>>143871636
>>143871683
I'm reading up on a few mage builds, and none of them seem to have it their decks? Example: http://www.icy-veins.com/hearthstone/legendary-tempo-mage-standard-deck

Is it just not ideal in a real game?

>>143872013
It's a decent card, it's just the average mage deck uses stuff based on tempo, and it's kind of an anti-tempo card in a way. It's a lifesaver in some scenarios, it's just that there isn't much room to put it into anything.

>>143872013
It's a combination of factors.
1) it won't do anything to close the game as it can't do anything to face as opposed to say fireball
2) the meta is too fast for it, against some decks you won't be able to guarantee you'd get value out of it because it runs mostly small minions.
3) it leaves a body on the board which can be a problem against some decks

>>143872013
The metagame right now is either about playing early aggression or countering the early aggression.

The goal of this card is to curb lategame threats and come out ahead.

If you run a single copy of it in a normal mage deck, you can gauge how useful it is.

>>143872013
The problem is, that you only really want to target dangerous 4+ mana minions. But the majority can be killed with fireball anyways and fireball can also be used to kill your opponent.

It is actually really, really good in some matchups like N'Zoth Paladin, since you deny them the resurection of their high-value minions. (Polymorph does not kill, it just swaps the minion and it is gone forever)

>>143872013
It's a very good card that has the enviable problem of having to compete with a lot of other very good cards, and though effective, it's more reactive and there are other ways to accomplish its job. Especially in focused decks.

If you have the card games wealth to play highest level decks and understand how to play around major threats, there are good reasons to not include it. But don't mistake that for the card itself being bad; if you're trying to build your own deck or can't afford to build certain archetypes fully, don't confuse the card's absence for it being underwhelming.

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>Cabalist's Tome is last card in my deck
>gives me Fireball and arcane missile which is enough to kill the enemy

Out fucking played m8.

>>143872013
It's not a bad card but in the current standard it's unfortantly a bit too slow. In fact I only think of like 1 target in this current standard where it would be useful 4 mana 7/7 xDDDD

>>143872453
>>143872374
>>143872327
>>143872245
>>143872172
I see, guess I'll have 1 in my deck for the time being, until I can afford better cards/get a better understanding of the current meta.

Thanks for the info!

What's this meme I'm seeing, warriors running what zeems like a zoo deck.

They all go face tho, zoo is control you shitters

>Playing Reno Mage
>Not responding to this post with a decklist

>>143872996
If you don't have better cards, you can even put 2, it really isn't that bad

>>143872997
>Zoo is control

Zoo is a mix of aggro and control

>vs thrall
>vs thrall
>vs thrall
>vs thrall
>vs thrall

How much of a shitter do you have to be to last day climb with the best deck for ladder?

>>143872997
>zoo is control

Guess some memes never die.

>>143873226
The only way Zoo could be classified as control is if control meant "removing threats from the board, thus limiting the opponent's options"

>>143873107
It really is control. If you go face and allow your opponent to dictate the board you lose unless he draws like complete shit.

Overload is just an unfun mechanic. The player gets an overstat'd card thrown against them, and if it didn't do what it was supposed to the shaman is screwed the next turn. Add rng damage on spells and shit like tunnel trogg and the whole class probably needs a new flavor/redesign.

How do people honestly not want to kill themselves playing Shaman

It's the most boring fucking thing in existence

>>143873389
Are you implying all aggro decks just go face? No, some people do make advantageous trades while maximizing their damage. Zoo is an aggro deck that makes trades.

>>143873462
I don't even know how the midrange one wins.
I try to flood but nobody even lets one of me minions stay alive, so I just deleted the deck after 4 games.

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Frostbolt or Fireball?

>>143873697
FB

>>143873661
free nerubian prophets

free 5/5 taunts

>>143873697
honestly your call

>>143873697
fireball for the sweet finisher

>>143873782
fucking lol

>>143873654
Except that Zoo always makes trades until it can push for lethal. It is essential to have the board, since you have no means to clear the enemies board without having creatures.

>>143873697
I'd go fireball

>>143873697

The real question is why you'd ever pick Servant of Throw The Game.

>>143873462

>stop liking what I don't like: the post

>>143874047
What does that have to do with anything?

Are you justifying playing the most boring deck in existence outside of Secret Paladin?

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That's Incredible!

what are currently some good control decks?

are freeze mage and renolock still viable?

>>143874203
Yes and Yes.

>>143874203
No and no

>>143874095
Did you forget face hunter?

Some people play other variants of Shaman too, the class itself has a lot of fun cards; it's just face decks that are boring.

>>143873941
>b-b-b-but daddy kripp told me it was b-bad!!!

>>143874217
neat
what do I replace healbots with in freeze mage?

>>143874275
Evolve Shaman is not really fun after your totem turns into a doomsayer for 9th time

>>143874203
N'zoth Paladin and Control Warrior.

They are both viable but meh. Also freeze mage is more combo than control

>>143874275
face hunter isn't boring though

hundertaker was literally the most braindead deck ever, just get a good mulligan and win

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>>143873016
pick your poison
ive teched these to hell and back, value version beats almost every control deck but loses to aggro unless you get reno and/or ice block, elise version is more reliable vs aggro but doesnt always carry through versus control since removal is limited without Tome and Scarab
I should probably add Frost Nova to both now that I think about it

>>143874095
>2016
>Confusing facts and opinions

>>143874621
>Playing on curve
>Exciting

Whatever floats your boat

>>143874416
Face hunter has the least decision making of ANY deck ever.

How can you say Shaman is boring but face Hunter isn't?

Why no emperor fag in tempo mage decks?

Does Al'Akir have a place in mid-range cancer deck?

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I know it's nothing to pros like you guys but I finally managed to get to rank 15.

>>143874752

grats Anon :)

>>143874752
That's a good progress, what decks did you work with?

>>143874736
too slow, you already have a 2 mana pseudo-thaurissan and want to empty your hand rather than wait for ebin combos

>>143874752
Congratulations, bub.

>zeriyah walking around in her underwear on savjz stream

HNNNNGNGNNGGGG

>>143874696
Face Hunter is much faster than aggro shaman, you need to ration your cards because you're going to be out of cards on turn 4. You have to make trades sometimes. You need to know how to mulligan against most matchups.

>>143874736
>playing a card with shit tempo in TEMPO mage, which also typically doesn't have many cards in hand

>>143874689
>Playing on curve is boring
>Playing like shit is exciting

Well, that is an opinion I guess.

Although if you think playing on curve is boring, Shaman is the class that has overload to make curving more dynamic than it is in any other class, so I'm not seeing your point.

>>143874930
>You have to play midrange in order to not play like shit

-/hsg/

>>143874876
pics or didn't happen

>>143874930
>Defending Overload

Fuck off Blizzard shill.

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>>143874837
Something I cobbled up for mage.
Trying to improve it as I go. But I can't do that when I keep drawing the same 20 cards and the rest stays at the bottom.
I went from rank 18 to 15 without drawing Emperor even once.
But the winrate with the deck is 58% so that's better than some other things I tried.

>>143874930
Oh look, it's the "never played Control Warrior" starter pack.

Playing way off curve for most of your early and mid game is not playing like shit. It means you're generating the most value over your cards. It's way more fun and exciting.

>>143874997
That wasn't what I was saying? I was responding to someone saying that Shaman was boring because it just plays on curve?

Or maybe I'm totally lost in what this internet argument is now. I'm going to stop here.

>>143875043
just watch the VOD happened 5 minutes ago

>>143875098
>overload is bad because kripp said so
lmao

>>143875241
Overload is bad because it's a lazy mechanic

>playing on curve is boring
>playing face hunter is exciting

I remember why I didn't come here for months

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>>143874876
>Old baggy granny pussy
want

>>143875271
I would love to hear more, but it's hard to hear you with kripp's dick in your mouth. Can you take it out?

>>143875216
Too much work. But surely you could go back to that VoD and take a screenshot, I know you want to have one anyway for later.

>>143875356
What does Kripparian have to do with anything?

I don't watch that vegan smug fuck

>>143875356
>Calls a guy out for supposedly watching Kripp without proof
>Proves that himself watches Kripp
lmfao I bet you're even subbed to that slowly dying vegan on twitch

>>143875271
what's lazy about it

>>143874876

Got a time stamp?

>>143875534
>We have 0 creative aspiration for this class so lets just stat pad cards to fucking hell because we gave shaman no theme whatsoever besides ruining their next turn

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>>143873941
fukken rekt, free on curve nourish

Messing around with my EU account, which adventure wings should I focus on getting?

>Play Mill
>Against a Control deck
Yes!
>They all play C'thun and Milling them just helps them draw into their C'thun + "Reuse your dead C'thun because we need to handhold you despite your misplays" cards
NO

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>Warrior plays Justicarr Trueheart on Turn 6
>Ancient Shieldbearer Turn 7

Things that make you feel dead inside.

>>143874290

Any card that relies on RNG to be good is less valuable than an equivalent card with no RNG aspects.

This is objective fact.

>>143876583
>coin, brann then ancient shieldbearer

>>143876485
wah I'm playing an underdeveloped deck archetype and am losing to strong refined decks wahhhh

>>143876713
>piloted shredder is worse than yeti
ah, I'm sorry, I thought I was replying to someone past rank 25, but I was wrong. Keep on Shieldbearing =)

>>143876583
>CAT HUUUUUUN SHELTERS US

>>143877046
>Er, uh, I meant besides the ones that are good, of course!

;^)

So what meme streamer came up with the decks running dragon eggs and reliquary tards? Watching people move to different netdecks fills me with disgust, it's so obvious.

>>143877501
J4ckiechan, the meme king himself

>>143877501
dragon eggs have never been bad, they are especially good now because of the loss of many sticky minions