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Heroes of the Storm /hotsg/

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Resurrected edition and li-ming is a chink slut edition

>What's new
Bunch of shit announced. Chromie is here, Medivh and season 1 finally rolling out. New Ranking systems.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20111014/ranked-play-revamp-5-6-2016

>where do I find you panda-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>Do you have a discord?
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
All of the hero voice lines: http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm

>Previous Thread: >>143614323
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>143849537
Who cares she isn't even waifu worthy
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Man, ranked is such a pain. If only I didn't get fucked by a barrage of retards during the placements.
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>>143849537
Hopefully they put her in before the game dies
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Mage Falstadt more OP than Kaelthas
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why do people get silenced?
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>>143849537
In the trash where she belongs.
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>tfw the odds are in your opponent's favor
>tfw it's a 13 minute game
>tfw you rek them and see their best player loses almost 200 mmr

feels good
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>>143850362
>their best player
>a lv4 gaz on cursed damn hollow
you know that you only lose (or gain) that much mmr when you are doing the very first HL games, don't you?
That's why it can happen to have some unranked guy to be in charge of bans (and why the whole matchmaker sucks big time, specially now that all those "AI only" guys jumped on the HL to grab the damn mounts)
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>>143850362
>Gaz lvl 4
Is this even legal?

btw, their pick was awful
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>>143849537
NEVER EVER
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>>143851051
that has to be some QM
gaz was probably teamed up with someone else in his team
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>>143850065
Soon our ranked will be free from this plague
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I love Jaina
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>enemy has 3 heroes with stuns/blinding
>retard on my team last picks artanis
wow thx 4 the throw, can't wait for blizz to implement reports for drafting throws.
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>>143853559
>Giving up at draft
You sound like a faggot
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>>143843775
If you pick regen master and do the quest + tenderizer at lvl 7 you can solo almost any squishies with no mobility skills
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>>143853817
the match is 70% decided on draft, stupid phoneposter
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>>143853879
And? Are you gonna afk once the match starts? No, thats bullshit. It's entirely possible to win against counters. I'd rather actually play the game instead of getting pissy and quitting just because I'm at a disadvantage.
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>>143854619
Did I say I abandoned the game? I played and tried my hardest which we almost won, but it didn't help that every time our arthanis dashed in anub and xul roasted him in 2 seconds, and that lost us many battles.
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>>143854619
>It's entirely possible to win against counters
Doesn't change the fact htat most of the time you won't, as the odds are stacked against you.
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>>143855074
what an awful mindset
you can win with the shittiest comp if you outsmart your opponent
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is this game dead? for real my queq for QMeme are 260+ and when i get in game i play with random people from new players to 3kmmr
is there no one online any more
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>>143855356
Yeah, tracer killed a lot of the game, but then overwatch release finished it off.
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>>143855142
>you can win with the shittiest comp if your opponent is retarded
What an amazing insight.
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>>143855479
tracer is fair tho, stop wanting to sololane as a squishy mage
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how do we fix kerrigan?
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>>143855617
Not that guy, but while I agree Tracer isn't OP anymore, she's a pain in the ass to fight against. Not fun at all.
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I just downloaded this game because it's free. What's the most OP heroes of the current free rotation?
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Tracer is not overpowered, but she is complete cancer. As in, the game is worse than before because of her existence. I think we all can agree on that.
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>>143855617
more like

>stop trying to solo lane as any specialist that isn't Zagara
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>>143856315
but she's cute
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why was haunted mines removed?
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>>143856315
yeah pretty much i just stopped playing qm and the game mostly because of her she really ruined the game
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>>143856315
>spend 3 months getting gud at positioning
>Tracer can just pole vault into your team, drop a cheeky bomb/melee and 360 out of there unpunished

I kinda WANT this game to die now.
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>>143857495

I love when "out of position" around tracer is behind your frontline under your towers
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>>143857571
>oh fuck, I'm in the middle of my lane with no enemy creeps around and at full HP, I'm gonna die before reaching my fountain because Tracer has set her sights on me

FUN
INTERACTIVE
TEAM BASED GAMEPLAY!
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game is going down dosent even make it in top 10 in korea
>LoL
>Overwatch
>Sudden Attack
>fifa online 3
>dungeon and fighter
>Lineage
>SC
>Diablo 3
>Blade soul
>Aion
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im rank 7 after placement matches right now im in a game with ranks 1to3 and i was baning with top mmr this matchmaking and ranking is shit as fuck
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>>143857772
grats bronzie
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>letting a thread 404 before bump limit

t-thanks overwatch for cucking this game out of players
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>>143858220
I don't get the appeal, HotS has the superior waifus with actual stories.
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>>143858292
hots playerbase was a good chunk blizz fanboys who just play whatever, and overwatch is the new hotness for those
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I'd like to play morales but spics...
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>>143857260
having different building hp on each map would be confusing to new players. walking through doors was also a difficult mechanic to balance.

>>143858292
the appeal is the control of simply targeting some other faggot on the other team every time with no dependence on anyone else being competent in any way.

>>143858505
she's the worst to actually play in the game so it's no loss
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>>143858215
only a bronze scrub will type this
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>>143858341
i like how blizzard shit on they own game kek
and now another fail with the 20 % rotten tomato warcraft movie hope at least they can break even from the fanboys who will pay money to watch it
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Well, /hotsg/?
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>>143859397
Moon all the way, KT is a cuck. Speaking of tyrande, how would a fight between her and li-ming look???
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>>143859578
You know what he's asking for, boys. Someone post it.

>>143859397
Moon all the way, obviously.
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my first game did I do good? ;)
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>>143850907
>a lv4
now you realise that this is in fact qm since HL requires hero level 5
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>>143855773
remove her from the game and add a new hero - kilrogg
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>>143860208
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>kerrigan is good in infernal shrines
how to spot a bronzie 101
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Anyone watching the gook games?
Last game was p good tbqh
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I want to mount Lunara
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>>143861536
>(you)
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>>143862085
baited for this exact response
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>>143862129
>(you)
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>>143862036
i want to sit behind falstad and grind against him
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>>143855142
It's possible but the thing is is that literally every game can be won with smart drafting

So it's not so much that the game is unwinnable it's that the guy blew a chance to grab a better hero and make the match a million times easier

I was stuck in bronze for a while, until I went on a big winstreak that was pretty much completley centered around smart drafting. Comp is a HUGE part of HoTS.
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>>143857772
OW's release has been tough on HoTS
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>lose game because of a retard
>call him out as the core explodes
>he whispers back and blocks
>see him on the enemy team next game and crush him
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june 2 can't come soon enough, my plan of not playing for a week worked, now i'm kinda pumped to do some power leveling with my favorite heroes and get others to 10.
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I don't understand why hots didn't fuck dota and lol to death.

It's got better graphics, varied maps with unique mechanics and creeps, beautiful waifus/husbandos.

Is it because it's "simplier" so you don't feel gosu for getting that last hit/managing your inventory/buying items? Or because carrying is way more difficult and you can only win if your team truly cooperates?
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>>143863237
I hope you B stepped
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>>143863469
>that hero pool
I hope you quarantine yourself to QM dude
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>>143863642
I mean i think convincing a bunch of LoL and DotA diehards to jump ship from a game they've invested $300+ and 1000 hours into isn't going to happen overnight.

I think the one thing those games have that HoTS doesn't have are better opprotunities for 1v1 dueling, and personal currency so you can get personally fed.
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>>143863998
Yeah i only do qm, i did duo HL with a pal like 4 months ago, double tank, i'm sitting on r2 ever since.

>>143863642
I think the alpha state they put the game on in "release" hurted them alot, lots of negativity around that time. Also no real reward to rub yourself, as any accomplishment is oriented to be done as a team rather than alone, you can't really say "i singlehandedly won this". I don't think even launch li-ming was able to carry a fucking game senpai
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How do I play ETC?
it seems like after the chromie patch he's out shined by other warriors
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>>143865078
stun squishies
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>1000 games as Sonya
>still feeds like a bronze shitter

HOW
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>>143865337
sonya's hard to paly :(
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What's the best hero to stomp plebs with
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>>143865401
what? sonya is literally the easiest hero to get good at
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>>143865490
Easy: LiMing. Throw damage at them from behind your team and watch the snowball roll. Problem: If your team can't do anything then you'll spend the game running away.

Hard: Kael. He's a more extreme LiMing. You have to know what fights you can win and skills take slightly more thought. He can't get out of a bad situation as easy, but he can delete almost anyone.

If you have a friend to play with: Diablo. You can grab and bump and be a huge asshole to deal with while your friend kills who ever you grabbed and trapped. Great combo options with Apoc. His downside is that as a solo tank he can get focused down sort of easily.
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>>143865827
ok thx man
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Reminder that next hero after Medivh is Gul'dan.
He's gonna gimmick around sacrificing his own health to deal more damage, then stealing health from others.
Still don't know if he's an assassin or a specialist.
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>>143866057
>Ultimate 1: Power Overwhelming: Gain +30% speed and +300% basic attack damage for X seconds. Die afterwards.
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draenei hero when??????
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>Wake up
>Old thread died
>this one is also dying

Is there a reason to wake up anymore?
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>>143866242
Guldan Akbar!
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senjinn here

you people still aren't playing this shitty game, are you? come get wrekt by me in overwatch

webm related - it's you and your team
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what type of toilet paper does tyrande use /hotsg/?
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>>143870507
you would know about crashing into things, wouldn't you
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>>143870507
post more dick pics already
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>>143870636
>implying she doesn't wash her pooper in the moonwell
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YOUR SOUL SHALL BE MINE!
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>you are not prepared
what did he mean by this???
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>>143870636
>>143872124
>implying she doesn't make malf lick her clean
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>>143873387
>Malf
>not Shandris
You think she didn't poo once in 10.000 years?
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>>143873562
Good point anon.
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>>143867873
Agreed.
We can't have Gul'dan without some Draenei. I mean whom is he going to sacrifice?
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desu they should redo one of kerri's heroics to be xel-naga form TBQH
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How to b-step?
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>>143876413
b
step
b
step
b
step
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>>143876107
But she's 2hot2handle.
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>>143876448
How to step then?
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>>143878051
>he can't step
Maybe this isn't the right game for you.
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>>143878051
b
right click
b
right click
b
right click
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>>143878291
>>143878051
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>so ded
You are not the ones I saw!
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I finally figured out how to play Kerrigan. Strange how her moves literally only work when you use them all together
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>>143881602
Use the succubus skin, that's the way I deal with playing as kerrigan
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stomping shit ranks with artanis infinishields build is fun. They never realize how to deal with that.
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1)Take a fight
2)Lose fight
3)Take a fight
So many people that can only play one way.
We had a good draft for objective control and spilt pushing. I thought that was the plan.
I was so, so wrong.
Kill the core to win. Where does it say "YOU HAVE TO KEEP TEAM FIGHTING OR ELSE YOU LOSE THE GAME"?
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>>143883583
just spam V and write "regroup"
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>>143870507

Bastion was robbed.
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>>143880254
COME BROTHERS, SEIZE YOUR DESTINY
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I'll soon have the gold for my first hero. What's the most broken hero currently?
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>>143884597
>Warcraft movie final
>Kilrogg appears on screen
>mfw
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>>143884778
Tracer and Kael. They are instawins in QM if you aren't garbage. Muradin if you like tanks
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>>143884778

Tracer. Shes not exactly devistating but shes so safe that no matter how retarded you play she will very very rarly die
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>play ETC for the first time in months
>lose matches pretty badly
>start re-learning the character
>start using new talents I haven't tried before
>start winning matches really well, with top kills in team and less deaths.
>feels fantastic
>have like, 20 games before I get master skin

fuck I forgot how much I loved this character
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>>143884778
Chromie
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>>143886816

I love his healing build, it's the closest I've felt like a bard outside the table
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>>143887827
I take prog rock at lvl 1, but since I've been getting matches with strong self sustain or morales I haven't taken groupies yet.
Hammer on is a must, tho. especially with Tracers everywhere.
I love storm shield, too. very useful.
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is there any game dedder than this that has its own general
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>>143889448
Katawa Shojo?
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>>143886816
>win with meme champ only picking meme talents
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How to talent ETC?
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>>143890570
learn all talents with funny names
like Pinball Wizard
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>placement match players at rank 4
>lose the game because he picked solo tass

why is this ok
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>playing MOBAs
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>>143891339
>implying we play the game and not only post lies about how we play it
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>>143891339
Excuse me, we are sophisticated people here, so we prefer the term ASSFAGGOTS
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>>143891339
>implying I've touched this game since Tracer came out
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>>143890570
>Prog Rock
>Hammer on!
>Follow Up
>Stage Dive
>Face Melt
>Imposing Presence
>Storm Shield

it works for me
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>>143891339
>implying I'm not here for Kilrogg posting
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>>143891339
>implying my pc can run this unoptimized piece of shit game
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>>143891781
>Kilrogg finally comes out
>the entire thread is just people spamming "I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS DAY"
can't wait desu
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>>143892027
I want them to release Maiev just so that faggot will stop apamming his shitty meme
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>>143892497
if Maiev comes out in the form of a Warden Zeratul skin, would that make it better or worse I wonder
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>about to lose another one sided stompfest
>internet shits out
>don't even get that +1 on my quest
When will they do something about this shit? Game was literally over within the next 30 seconds
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>>143892027
It's gonna be great.
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>>143893220
Do something about what? Your bad connection? Do you live in a bush or a underdeveloped country?
I hate to use the meme, but it's 2016. Get a stable and fast connection or stop playing online multiplayer games.
1200+ games and I've only lagged noticeably one time because I had torrents uploading. Dropped from 3 games from loss of connection to sever.
Game also runs great at mid-high settings on a 5+ year old PC.
ALL YOU COMPLAINING FAGS CAN FUCK OFF WITH YOUR 'unoptimized/laggy game' BULLSHIT
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when did all go wrong?
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>no concede option
>player rejoins game just in time to avoid leaver penatly
>lose rank because of disconnect

This game is so much fun.
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>>143895340
get triggered faggot
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>>143894747
>internet shits out for the first time in 3 months
>lasts for like a minute
>this means I live in middle of nowhere in a 3rd world country
Over reacting much?

It wouldn't take them much work to make it so you get credit if you were in the game until the last minute or two
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>>143895340
Concede option is absolute defeatist cancer.
The game has a lot of things to fix, but I really hope they never add a surrender vote.
And if they do, I'll always be that guy who votes no
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>>143895149
When the real money pricing was revealed
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>>143895768
>Not an argument
Where did I say you live in the middle of nowhere? I asked if you did, to determine what your problem could be.
I then moved on to conjecture and the greater issue of whining fuccbois that come to this thread to cry about being fuccbois.
So what then? You were the victim of an isolated incident? Nothing to fix.
Your connection is fine every game before and since that one? Nothing to fix.
Why did you even post?
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>>143860676
I wish I was between them...
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>>143895906
Because playing the entirety of a slow, 25 minute game that was thrown in draft because someone troll picked is so fun

You sound like a noob
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>>143895906
Concede option is for people who don't have time to waste in lost games
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>>143895906
>let me just waste 30 minutes with fuckhead teammates like this tard instead of finding a team that isnt absolute shit
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>>143896885
>>143897230
>>143897595
>I'm really sure that I'm going to lose
>But somehow I can extend the game to 30 mins
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>>143897910
>implying you can't extend the game 10 minutes easily by just being around killing minions
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>>143897910
>what is turtling

I wish there was a thread specifically for bronze players.
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>>143898458
>a thread specifically for bronze players
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>>143897910
Based anon.
>>143896885
>>143897230
>>143897595
If you can get to 30mins then it was not a stomp. One bush gank at 30mins can win a game. Change your behaviour or be doomed to continue on this path.
You. Are. The. Only. Constant.
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>>143870636
>that feel when you are a dude but you are so skinnyfat you literally have this ass and jiggle
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>>143898669
The only constant is the stream of mexishits and favelaniggers on their 3rd world connection disconnecting in the middle of my games.
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>>143898726
NEXUS
E
X
U
S
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>>143849145
Fuck you OP, she is neither a chink or a slut. You have no right to call her these slurs, this OP should be deleted and recreated with someone who isn't a racist and/or bigot.
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>>143898989
>li-chink
>not a slut
LMAO
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>>143898378
>implying you can't just subtlety throw if you are so sure it's a loss.
If you can soak your way to late game, you can win.
You can always just try and sneak a late game boss. If you get caught and team wipe then it's done.
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>>143898989
She is not a slut, she just loves getting anally fucked by everyone
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>>143898989
>>143899069
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>my team is four rank 3 players
>I'm rank 4
>I do bans
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Anyone else having a lot of success and fun with Rexxar? Do you guys use the Spirit Swoop talents?

The only complaint I have is that Misha's run animation is very stiff and silly looking.
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>>143901530
>browndogthing

that's a bear you idiot
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>>143901913
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>>143901913
Bears eat trash. I refuse to associate Misha with those savages
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>>143850362
>tfw the odds are in your opponent's favor
>They had Jaina
I don't think you know how odds work.

Fuck you had a good front line, Falstad AND Illidan; AND Johanna and ETC are way better tanks then Artanis who really should be paired with a second tank or something to that effect.
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>>143902531
>Bears eat trash

So do dogs.
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>>143902728
uh, back the fuck off?
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>>143903007
*teleports behind you*
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>>143903057
This is a discussion board, not a fucking LARP.
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>>143894747
This game is unoptimized as fuck and you can't deny that. Even the devs stated it.
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>>143901530
All I remember is seeing the win rates for Rexxar on HL and then dreading the match when I got matched against one.

Then I got matched with that very same Rexxar the next game.

The Rexxar won both games.

He is terrifying in the right hands.
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>>143903057
*turns into a werewolf behind you*
>psst. my curse will be your undoing, kid.
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How do these ranked points work?
I just went win-loss-win and gained/lost 99-100-183 points
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>>143905812
>it was a hologram
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when you're just chillin and this motherfucker slap you on the ass
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Important poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/10354929
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>>143907552
>there is no 'fuck you' option
at least you tried
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Bets
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>>143905812
>Vaults behind you
>psssh... hardly a challenge... kid
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>>143908206
noob
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>>143908206
LEFT!
don't disappoint me anon.
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>>143908206
red will find a way to fuck it up
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>>143908504
>>143908613
>>143908623
Already lost :^)
Shortest game of my life, ai vikings.
>>
LI-CHINK
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>huge losing streak after dropping out of r1
>climb back to 3 after going 12-2
>another losing streak to 6

I guess the time and day of the week you play actually matters. Pretty tired of running into retards and people in placement games.
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I'm sitting on 12k gold and don't know who to buy next. Right now, I'm thinking of getting Nova or Zeratul.
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>sky temple
>my team successfully captures boss
>goes to enemy bruiser
>their rhegar was trying to solo the camp
>kill him and swipe camp
>ETC (me) and Artanis and kharazim push top with bruisers
>Li Ming and Nova push bot with boss

enemy team couldn't do anything, divide and conquered
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>>143913756
nigger you do not own tyrande yet
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>>143913458
I think friday night and sunday afternoon, especially sunday afternoon, are top cancer
saturday night not so much, the kind of people that play on saturday night tend to be people who take gaming pretty seriously (or drunkards / stoners that you can easily pick off)

>>143913759
>I'm so proud of my wood league victory: the post
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>>143913858
What makes Tyrande so special?
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>>143914619
goddess ass
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>>143914619
her trait
lunar flare
the owl
her tits
her ass
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>>143914676
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>>143857772

Porn is illegal in Korea, why use those yellow skinned fucks for anything other than slave labor?
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>>143915258
nice try Abe
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>>143914784
>>
>Raiders Rolls
>Jaina's Cones of Cold
>Ashalanore's Salami
>The Soup Dash Sallac Kitchen
>Stormrage 10,000 Step Anger Managament Program
>Morales Bus Tours
>Gazlowe's Gadgets
>Abathur's Hat Emporium
>The 1,001 Gods Dojo
>Bronzebeard's Brew and Bloodshed
>Diablo's Overpowrestling Gym
>5-Man Maw Porn Studios, CEO Zagara
>Rexxar's Exceptional Obedience Training Academy
>Dehaka's Pawn Shop
>Valla's Anger Management classes
>Stitches Comedy Club: guaranteed to make you laugh, or we give them the hook.
>Nazeebo's Voodoo Emporium: who do, we do, you do, Voodoo.
>Sgt Hammer's Lonely Blackharts Bay Band

Events:

>Annual March of the Black King
>Sponsored by Cow King whole milk, it gives you Hardened Bones.
>Special guests this year: the Scourge, the Army of Hell and the Skeletal Mages
>Catering provided by Butcher's Slaughterhouse and Stitches' Shish Kabobs.
>any libcucks that protest in the March of the Murlocs against our rightful king Leoric will be Entombed.

>The Cult of El
>Nexus natives claim that the Nexus was once connected to a world where men and women of incredible power flew the skies and performed miracles great and terrible alike
>its greatest hero, Kal-El the Super Man, gave his life to stop Doomsday not just upon his city, but upon the Nexus as well
>The Cult has honored his sacrifice since then and believes he will return in glory someday
>in preparation for his coming, they have painted his emblem all over town, claiming that it stands for hope
>King Leoric has discouraged such treasonous practices and anyone caught praising or worshipping The Super Man will be Drained of Hope immediately
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>>143915874
?
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>>143914619
shes the best girl
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>call out dehaka for being an autistic retard and bodyblocking our team
>UR SHIT JAINA UR BAD
>all game
>respond with "ayy lmao" and ":^)" all game
>watch him sperg out with rage because I ignore his pings
>the rage PM to top it off

Was losing my shit that entire time. I wish Blizzard weren't so fucking ridiculous when it comes to shit talking and calling out bad players. Would love to trash the autistic kids just to watch them squirm without having to worry about getting banned.

>inb4 hurr toxicity is bad
Its like all Blizzard games are a safe space for retards who can't handle criticism or banter.
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>>143914619
she's the nearest we'll ever be to playing as maiev
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>>143916459
that's not Ronin Zeratul
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>>143917480
fag
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deddest game

rip in peace
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>>143916261
This
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>>143916437
I really hate that you can't call out people for being shitty or making bad decisions. In any other team based game if someone isn't preforming their role they get called out so they can improve.

I understand some people can get excessive, uncreative, or lazy with their insults but you can mute them if that's the case.
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Me and my friend just started playing HotS a few weeks ago and it was working perfectly fine. Log in today and get this thing, someone help me please.
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owlbro when?
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>took me 2 weeks to go from rank 5 to 3
>2 weeks left of pre-season
Will I make it?
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>>143922329
Hots is currently broken and they are no longer supporting it, see the official blizzard forums for more details
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>>143923225
you got all the good rewards already

nothing to gain except a little gold
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>>143923950
I thought rank 1 had a different icon?
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>>143924132
nope all you get is an extra 500g for rank 1
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God I hate people who blame at random whenever they're not winning.
Maybe the enemy team is just better than us, you goddamned fucking abusive cunt.
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>>143924319
wrong man there is a rank 1 only portrait.
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>>143922461
19 more days
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>>143924828
muh dunning kruger
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>>143923225
you will
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>play butcher
>every team focuses you first
>everyone saves their blind and cc just for you
>die in one second and do 0 damage every time
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>>143928783
The thing about Butcher is he's a feast or famine hero.
If his counters are on the field, he is countered hard and nearly useless.
If his counters are not on the field, he's an invincible never ending riot who can bully literally anyone 1v1.
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>>143926725

It should be either 15 or 22. Because tuesdays.
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>>143857495
This is why tracer is billshit

There is literally NO good positioning against her and she CANNOT be in bad position

Add to that how she just shits on the 90% of heroes who are either skill shit dependent or mellee or both and it's just no fucking fun having her around
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>>143929278
Lol, literally almost everyone can counter Butcher
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>>143929492
Just stun her.
Just kill her.
Just outrange her.
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>>143930256
Only heroes with dashes/blinks, blinds, or knockbacks. So yes, a lot of heroes, but certainly not all of them.
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>>143930371
dashes and blinks are where this game and its meta are going though. giving new champs increased mobility is actually a good thing imo and it highlights a key error in the game's initial hero designs: they're just too slow and sluggish. take Stitches or Jaina for example, all they can do is stand around and cast their spells while everyone is running circles around them. and Valla's whole Trait is wasted on a gimmicky way of giving mobility because they hadn't figured out how to implement it correctly when they made her.
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>>143930731
>insane mobility creep is a good thing
maybe if the old characters would get fixed at some point, but Blizzard is making it worse
>>
>someone on your team picks jaina
this should be bannable
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>>143930731
Slow and sluggish are fine so long as they have range to compensate. I haven't seen anyone complain about Azmodan, and he's one of the most immobile characters in the game.
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>>143930731
>this game should be like LoL and give everyone a blink
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>>143931016
>playing HL
>enemy team bans tracer
>my team bans sylvanas
>enemy first pick
>jaina
>we get ming and kael
That's when I knew we won
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>>143929492
Wut? I have no problemo with Tracer. Maybe you just doing something wrong?
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>>143931016
>2016
>not banning whatever shitty heroes your retarded teammates insta-highlighted
It's the only way that they will learn
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>>143931016
I would really rather see a gazlowe on my team than jaina
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>>143936424

You take that back. At least normies play jaina. Gazlowe is only played by favela faggots, russians and spanish so your always a team member down.

At least with jaina ahe might accidently help
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>>143936424
well then you should be familiar with the league were gaz is top five and li ming actually performs better than jaina in HL.
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>>143930349
>>143932496
>people who judge heroes based on random shitters they play against In Quick match instead of actual good ones
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>>143857772

Whatever happened to Black Dessert and Tree of Savior?
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If you faggots let the thread die while I sleep, I will personally go to each of your houses and shit on your computers
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>MFW Li Li gets top hero dmg
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What do you guys do when you're on a losing streak?
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>>143940642
It wont die thanks to our LiLi posters
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>>143940687
play murky
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>>143940859
i hope trump will gas/deport furfags
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>>143940687
38% winrate
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>>143940996
LiLi is love, LiLi is life.
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>>143940871
Good idea. The little guy always cheers me up.
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>>143940871
>on a losing streak
>play murky
>make the losing streak even longer
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>>143941747
just rank 40 thoughts
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Why are all the panda heroes so good?
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>>143913756
This guy again. Tyrande is noted, but I still kind of want Zeratul more. How hard is he to learn to play effectively?
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>underestimate the enemy team and accidentally give them xul on tomb
>losing all game, lose all forts and a keep while they have three forts up
>for some reason they all decide to go bot and take giants when boss is up and they have 20 on us
>take free boss
>they trickle in and give us free kills
>win with boss push

Well that went well.
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>>143946382
Also

>draft the weirdest fucking comp
>win

Team league, baby.
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>>143946791
>two healers and two tanks vs no tank

Kinda make sense.
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>>143946382
people who make blatant misplays like that deserve to lose, im glad you won you panda fucker
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>>143946893
Nah, rexxar's kinda a legit tank now, but definitely not solo. Their vikings were also really good (comparatively, anyway. Still nothing compared to something like takada).

>>143946978
What's best is that they could have salvaged that, too. If they had just gone into the boss pit as five right after we took it they might have wiped us, but Diablo came way early into a choke and let me isolate him from his team with barrel. Brightwing also got emerald wind and literally helped our team with it more than she helped theirs.
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>>143943865
I'd show my hero collection but screenshot ain't working for some reason- I've played Zeratul the most by a long shot. I don't think he's that hard but he's incredibly fun. He has some of the highest damage output late game, the kind that makes li mings qq.

I have a certain talent build I go with 99% of the time but there's fun to be had with several of his talents, especially vorpal blade.

No one punishes lone squishies like zera in my bronzie opinion.
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A great night for the panda crew.
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>>143943865
At top level, Zeratul is probably one of the highest skill cap characters in the game, especially with vorpal blade. He's not too difficult to at least get the hang of, though.
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Anyone have news on the next rotation?
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>>143948671
Check some the the EU forums. They tend to post it earlier.
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Playing support early morning in EU is such a curse.
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>Tracer can't rewind out of Junkrat's trap in Overwatch
>Tracer can rewind out of roots in HotS

What is the rationale behind this?
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>>143943683
It's panda-ring to the Chinese audience.
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>>143954110
if Tracer wasn't gamebreakingly OP, people wouldn't pre-order Overwatch
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>>143954720
yeah, ow totally needed those 20 preorders from the guys who play hots
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>>143953187

Come on this morning, 3 supports 3 wins, done the supports and immediately swapped to tank and then I've lost ever since. got one 1 in 9 games. Fml. your pic related
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YOUR SOULD SHALL BE MINE!
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>>143958838
I greet you
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I wonder if HotS will eventually add non-root debuffs that prevent mobility spells, like League did.
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"hey guys if you're a ranged assassin stay behind the tank instead of walking into the enemy team"

"care they have a li ming and our teams health is low"

> the 2 assasins end the game with 10 and 12 deaths

yep guess they're exactly at my skill lvl thanks blizz matchmaking
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>>143960997
Don't be sad senpai.
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>>143958991
Heh.
Greeting.
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>>143961923
>*tips armor*
>huh, I must choose!
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So, as a casual HotS gamer, I have a question. How well does this game do currently? Is it doing well, or is it hanging by it's threads? Judging by the updates, it seems to be doing okay, but wherever I go, nobody seems to play it. I started to play it because my real life mates were into it, but they all gave up like two or three months after starting. So, realistically, does this game have a way to stay alive as some other MOBA-s, or will Blizzard abandon it, if it does not prove profitable?

I can see why people like and disliek it. For me, the greatest factor for liking it is the heroes, both for nostalgic reasons and for originality reasons (things like Vikings, Cho'gath and the like are very unique) and the various battlegrounds. The reasons for disliking it would be that it is kind of dull. There are no real surprises, no specially differing tactics or some such.
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>>143962004
I wonder if the HotS team will be taking inspirations from Hearthstone when designing Garrosh.
Then again Artanis already does a good job at spamming shields all the time.
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>>143962401
I wonder how they would translate le skillful 2 mana removal into HotS

>>143962264
>Cho'gath
well memed
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>>143962264
Blizzard isn't going to drop it any time soon.
Even if HotS isn't profitable their other games like WoW, Hearthstone and Overwatch probably print enough money to support some small side project like HotS.
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>>143962524
It's going to be a shield that stacks with a 2 seconds cool-down.
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>>143961763
It's just frustrating. I'm still practicing mechanics and slowly improving so it's not like I'm not getting anything out of these games.

Also I'm a shit player and usually lurk but these threads have been dead so I gotta contribute something.
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>>143962653
whirlwind execute, not his hero power
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>>143962524
Holy shit, I get to mix my champs. Sorry, but you know who I meant. Cho'gall.

>>143962534
Blizzard is not known from dropping their licenses easily, that's true. And with Overwatch they now have a shitload of champs they can add from a game that is not Warcraft. Just think it's odd that you have to wait for a long time to get a damn match going, so I surmise from that, that not many people play this thing to begin with.
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>>143962745
Anon, please. You're on /vg/ everybody here sucks at video games.
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>>143963486
high hl1 mmr is basically the same players switching sides. Matches can get pretty memetic too
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>>143962868
Heroic where Garrosh turns into a whirlwind and executes any hero below 1/4 of their health.
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do u guys hate overwatch ?
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>>143964703
It's too mediocre to be hated, honestly.
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>>143964703
No, why would we?

>tfw my toaster can't run Overwatch
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>>143964703
I don't hate a piece of software. If it gained sentience and specifically went after me I would
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>>143964703
it was fun in beta, I'm too cheap to buy it when I have WoW and RNGstone
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are only like panda autists left playing this game? seems like I get someone who only plays chen every fucking game
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>>143965885

I've played my last 90 games as dehaka personally.
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>>143965940

Speaking of dehaka, anyone else noticed that he appears to have a sheath? weird how they done that.
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>>143965940
Same here anon, picked him almost every match for days now.

Every other hero I know pales to him in fun.
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>>143966296

This. I didn't know if I would like him at first, after playing heart of the swarm I took an interest in the primal zerg and give him a go on the "all heroes are free" weekend and bought him the moment I had the gold, refuse to play anyone else since.
>>
>great maps
Infernal Shrines, Blackheart's Bay, Sky Temple, Dragon Shire
>good maps
Cursed Hollow, Garden of Terror
>ok maps
Tomb of the Spider Queen, Towers of Doom
>shit maps
Battlefield of Eternity, Mememines
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Has anyone tried playing muradin with give 'em the ax at 16? I blew up a falstad with a thunder clap and a few autos, mura is basically an assassin at 16
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>>143965885
Chen and Lili are FUN!
FUN!!!!
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>>143967543
I don't know if I should cringe harder when I see a couple queueing against me with them or with arthas+jaina
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>>143963486
the main reason hots isn't as successful as lol or dota2 is the very same reason that kills every mmorpg released after wow.
there's a many years long leadership in the genre, people have invested too much (both time and cash) in these games and is just too used to their mechanisms to even try something else.
ad when they do they can complain because "X is too different so what's the point" (example: hots' lack of items) or " X is the same shit as Y, a game i've played for years, so why should I switch to it?" (example: it still has minions, lanes and a core to kill).

hots will never ever be as successful as lol, deal with it.
but it doesn't make it a bad game. I personally hate lol (i'm not dumping 40-60 minutes into a game that probably will be full of shitters/tryhards throwing shit at each other) and, on the paper, I won't like dota2 either.
hots is fast, somewhat intense, has a lot of chars that bring out the good old nostalgia (well, if I try to remove my "modern blizzard" and "fucking metzen ruins everything" hate) and the shared exp, the true mixed blessing of this game.

if you like hots, play it
blizzard WILL keep updating it, no matter what. they have bilions problems but for sure they don't let their game, even the most awful ones (i'm looking at you diablo3), rot in a corner.
ofc the lack of irl friends who play it is a major issue, decide to play it solo or not is up to no one bu you
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>>143966036
It's so he can cuck Anub without being spotted.
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>>143967692
>hating on Jaina+Arthas
Kael plz stahp
>>
I was 10 and 1 in placements, but now Im 11 and 7
What kind of rank can I hope for?
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>>143966380
There's nothing as fun as stoping your splitpushing and burrowing into a teamfight, hunting down squishies.
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>>143967796
why is zagara mad, silly phoneposter?
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>>143967874
>Defending arthas, the death knigger
LOL, he's stupid and a traitor undeserving of anyone's affection, only capable of stealing someone else's property.
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>>143850065

>Those usernames
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>>143968063

The more satisfying thing to do is hunting aba
those ones that try to be sneaky and hide in brush then you just watch for the locust in lane, estimate the timer and then burrow to X bush and find him, hit W, if he tries to burrow Q and gg his game is ruined.
>>
>burrowing ontop of an Aba
Greatest feeling.
>>
hots needs a shit flag, and it needs it now.
if I play a HL and the last guy picks an uther, when we already have a tyrande+tassadar in the team, that guy shouldn't be allowed to play HL ever again.

people should be able to flag someone as a massive shitter and, once the shitflags reach a critical number, it has to have consequences.
shitters should be allowed to play with no one but other shitters and/or AI.

ofc the shitflag method will be abused, everyone will shitflag everyone else in lost games but it can be fixed by allowing 1 shitflag at max in every match.
from a statistic point of view, only shitters should reach the critical mass of shit.

vote for the shitflag and twitter it to baldguy (or just post it n reddit, dev team lurks and posts on it on daily basis anyway)
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>>143941320
Lili is for sexual
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>>143965885
Already have Jo jo and sonya? Perfect game for chen
>>
>>143968187
Dehaka must've done something really lewd.
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>>143967692
Top lore team compositions in the game:
Tyrande+Malf
Jaina+Arthas
Lili+Chen
Raynor+Kerrigan
Raynor+Tychus
Arthas+Jaina+Uther
Thrall+Jaina+Malf+Tyrande+Medivh
Kael+Illidan
Kerrigan+Dehaka+Zagara+Abathur
Tassadar+Zeratul+Artanis
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>>143968389
ulti is really a piece of shit cancerous defeatist whiner tho
>>
>tfw just realized that you have to shell out real money for kerri succ skin
can't really justify buying aestethics... ._.
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>>143970719
>Not Arthas+Uther
>Not going around smiting everything
>Not being the Obi Van and Anakin of WoW and going on zany adventures.

onejob.jpg
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>>143970719
>Thrall+Jaina+Malf+Tyrande+Medivh
Shit, this sounds like a weird comp that might actually work. Can't wait to try it out.
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Sup guys, new to /hotsg/ and I was wondering if there is any kind of circlejerk in here like in pretty much any general
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>>143971929
Here's a (You)
>>
Why is it that all the shitstain people who use Tracer, Kael, Illidan and Li-Ming? Do they really believe that their job is harder then it really is?
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>>143971929
(You)
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>>143971929
There are no circlejerks here because the thread (just like the game) is ded
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>>143971929
We had a few memes, but they're all gone now. All dead and buried.
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>>143968051
sub 15
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>there is no SFM porn of this game
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>>143974570
But there is.
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>>143975014
not near enough, or any good ones.
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>>143974570
>>143975014
The models aren't as detailed or well done compared to OW (as it is a MOBA), so sfm porn of this game will always seem lackluster.
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>>143968051
>>143973823
12 and 8, rank 18
atleast I get one of the mounts
>>
So, if I am not supposed to play HL on weekends, when should I play? Just weekdays after work?

I don't think I'm gonna make it.
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>>143973816
Speaking of
Did someone make bee chromie and bee medivh?
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>>143978787
It's all the same shit any day, there is not a day when you're not getting matched with retards. So just stop caring and play whenever you can.
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>>143979410
Okay. Fair enough. I just want Twenty now. 10 seems like an impossible dream. Though, with my current rank, I literally can go up two Ranks with one single win.
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>play Leoric
>get tons of fanmail about him being shit and dead weight in current meta
>still win 3 out of 4 matches
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>>143979806
I really like him but he needs some buffs, only numbers
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>>143979806
>>143980043
I literally have no idea what a Leoric is supposed to do. I don't know what he does when I'm playing against him and I haven't ever played him. Bad Leo's seem really bad. How does he "tank"? Even Sonya has some sustain, is the drain comparable?

I remember he used to be crazy broken. I don't know what all was nerfed besides his trait and his trait talents. Backdoor Leorics pissed me off so much.
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>>143980175
if you pick the right talents you can regen 50% of your HP in a matter of seconds
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>>143980175
>I literally have no idea what a Leoric is supposed to do

Be spooky
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>>143971559
Thrall + Jaina + Arthas + Tyrande + Medivh would be better
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Speaking of Leoric, does anyone know whether Fealty Unto Death counts enemy minions AND allied minions or just enemy minions?
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>>143981185
it counts all minions. The best way to revive quickly as Leo is to stand next to an active lane and get 14 hits of it from them killing each other
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>>143981132
That would defeat the lore purpose of the lineup, as Arthas is the only villain here.
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How to counter Jaina? Is there even exist something that can counter this mighty frost mage? Her freezing combo almost always ends with full team wipe, and this is just ridiculous how impactful she is
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>>143968618
I'd shitflag players just for playing heroes I personally dislike
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>>143980815
>>143980717
Neat. Is he fun? I have enough warriors, but his trait does seem neat.

I dunno though. I think I'd rather try someone like Dehaka for that off tank thing.
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>>143982283
Sneeze at her, she's shit and she's easier to kill than chromie
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NOVA
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>people who don't hover or communiciate in draft
>then last pick nova into chen, muradin and sonya, leaving us without a support

suffering
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>>143913458
The best time to play seems to be between 6 and 8 in the morning EST.
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I want li-ming to teach me the arcane ways...
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>>143984350
>tfw no nova gf
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>enemy team wastes two of their first three picks on warriors

Fine by me.
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>>143986707
oh hell yah
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>>143984350
NOT AS COOL AS ZERATUL
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Next Rotation

Lunara, Artanis, Kharazim, The Butcher, Jaina, Azmodan, Gazlowe, Muradin, Raynor, and Uther.
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LEAKS WHEN
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>>143988057
>next rotation
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>win 3 games
I'm gonna do it guys, I'm gonna complete this in HL
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>>143988385
New Rotation*
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>>143988550
>my team picks kerrigan and jaina
Here we go
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post lunara
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>>143989030
Post your win
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>>143988057
Funny how they put Jaina and Raynor on the rotation twice before Zeratul gets in once.
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>>143989234
Got crushed
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>>143989663
last rotation reminded me that tass free week is the worst. tass is great but his role needs to be changed to specialist, there are people at single digit ranks that think he can solo supp
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LUNARA
is a slut
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anyone watched the wc movie? there's only a ruskie leak available :(
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>>143948045
>only buy OW because everyone and their mother is playing it
>game is bland, boring tug of war bullshit
>the only form of entertainment in the form of effective power trips
Well gosh golly gee, it's another unfinished product from Blizzard.
At least I can heal my big strong hero properly in this game.
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>>143990795
Well since you lost the matchmaker has to put you on a favorable team next game right?
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>>143992663
Oh yeah dude forced 50% is totally a thing!!!
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>>143992897
spoken like a true bronzie
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>>143992663
>>143992897
Well I did win the next one without losing anything but gate/towers on two lanes

Forced 50% confirmed real
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>estimated wait time 100s
>time spent in queue 250s
ded game
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>>143973816
Lies Kilrogg never dies!
And neither did Superman!
>>143979124
No, I believe the newest bee was Tracer.
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>>143992141
I did. But i am from Mother Russia
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>>143992141
It was pretty fun.
The orcs turned out pretty well and the humans were actually decent. I fully expected any scene involving them to suck but it actually worked out well enough.

Would watch again.
>>
>>143993982
>>143993694
>>143992141
It currently has 18% on Rotten Tomatoes. People are comparing it to the Angry Birds movie in terms of pointlessness.
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>>143988057
>Weekly Sale
>Tassy
>Mecha Tassy
>Centy Jo
>>
>tfw your team decides to go for core when enemy respawns in 10 seconds
>half of the team dies and we only get the core down to 50%
>one idiot thinks we would have had it "if everyone hit core"
>everyone was hitting core already
>>
>enemy team 3 levels ahead
>we have one kill, they have 15
>no option to concede
>alt+f4
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>>143996202
Were you not up levels? The core is pretty squish late game. 5 people attacking just core should shred it.
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>>143982637
>is he fun?

your teams will rarely (if ever) cooperate or take advantage of your warding when you're dead. most of the time they'll leave you to respawn on your own, preferably in the middle of the other team. have fun.
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>>143993057
I fail to see how

Wouldn't the players crying about how whenever they lose it's always MM's fault be the bronzies?
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>>143998197
I thought using Leo as a ward was what Lurky Leorics do.
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>>143995720
>it's bad because it's caught in the "le video game movies are always bad" circlejerk
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>3rd pick
>insta lock azmo without even hovering over him and with no one to help him stack yet
>enemy obviously bans joh
>dont worry I'm good at staacking solo
Why does this happen at rank 1
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>>144000509
Or maybe the movie is just bad
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>>143995720
I dont care about some tomatoes
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>>144002718

>trying desperately to climb
>get the exact same thing
>I snag Johanna to help him stack
>he doesn't say a thing
>wait for him to dunk the wave and he doesn't, so I condemn it first
>he keeps trying to laser minions
>throws his globe at the buildings
>he's still silent, but isn't muted
>quickly check his talents
>bribe

:-( I try to play around my teammates choices because that's all I can do, but this is rough.
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>>144002959
I haven't read the newest reviews, but most of the original ones boil down to "video game movies are bad so I went into this movie expecting to hate it and did"
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>>143989231
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>>144003067
definitely not r1 tier, also reminder that azmo is in free rotation so shitters will pick him without knowing how to play him
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>>144003067
Life is suffering.
HOTS is hell.
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>>144003234
looks familiar
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>>144003404

Yeah, I know. This was a couple of days ago, before the f2p Azmodan.

I've seen him picked pretty frequently in my bronze games recently, and doing weird things, like trying to lane against my comfy lane bug in bot lane Blackhearts.

>>144003410

I've just never felt so hopeless in solo queue.

Playing QM with 2-4 friends is probably some of the most fun I've ever had in any game, though. Might have to try to get a few people into the game after the league system comes out in two weeks.
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>>144003234
eeew lunie is CUTE not HOERSFAEC
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I thought globe Azmodan was still a bad idea half the time, what changed?

I have actually been super frustrated by enemy Azmo's globes.
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>>144004938
They buffed his stacking a bit. Now if the minion dies 1.5s after the globe you get the stack, compared to 1s before. It actually makes a pretty decent difference.
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>>144004938

I've been under the impression that it's the only way to play him, ideally when you have somebody capable of quickly clearing for/with you (Johanna, Kael'thas, Jaina, Leoric, etc)

Considering how squishy a lot of the meta is (Tracer, Li-Ming, Kael'thas) globes can chunk teams late game.

It's just a matter of making it there, lol

Oh, and Azmos trait when used to empower a hefty, uncontested merc push is busted.
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>>144004938

And yeah, this >>144005292

I believe it's the initiate damage of the ability, then you have a second and a half to kill them.

So having Johanna condemn either before or after is fine, and helps get those early stacks. Things only get spookier after you're able to 1-hit minion waves after 10.

Other neat thing; experience is gained if you last hit, regardless of distance, and this allows you to (in theory, anyways) soak two lanes

All this Azmo talk is really making me want to buy/play him, wish he didn't feel so niche
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>Lunara is a better siegeer than half the specialist roster.

Well designed game.
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>>144006790
>>144005358
>>144005292
So, what do you do if an Azmo succeeds at building fucktons of stacks? The globe is from a million miles away and there are a lot of choke points in teamfights over objective like in Infernal Shrines, so it isn't easy to dodge, especially if the other team does some CC.

There is nothing worse than being bullied by a character you know isn't in the best spot in terms of meta. Because if they buff him, you'll be super fucked.
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>>144009712
>implying you can team a wild femdeer like her
check your role privileges
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is chogall used in esports?
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>>144011268
rarely by some C-grade teams
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>>144011268
it's a banned substance without a prescription
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>>144011268

I vaguely recall him being played a lot at one point, on smaller maps when paired with Rehgar.

Haven't seen him at all recently, though. Esports (which I haven't really been following as of late) or QM/HL.

>>144009712

Sort of mixed feelings about the whole specialist category, and how people think it's their job to rip of structures.

Lunara really does shred PvE after 7 and 10, though.
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This is fair and balanced... twice, in a row.
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>>144011930
>>144012280
>>144012323
what about abathur's ult on him? does the evolution only target the "warrior" part?
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>>144009712
Specialist does not mean siege, it means weird.
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>>144009712
she deals damage. few characters actually do the "siege" part and they get as much complaints as nova.
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>>144012876

Pretty sure, yeah.

I think there was a Korean team that was cloning the Cho'gall every engagement on Cursed Hollow, if anybody knows the match I'm talking about.

>>144013048

>in a game where we have xul and need a ranged dps
>guy says he's only comfortable on zagara
>okay, sounds good, we have some burst with ming anyways
>two people be like gg two specialists
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>>144009712
>zagara does more hero damage than half the assassin roster

Well designed game.
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>>144015908
She doesn't though, she's just a huge bully
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now that chromie is in, what about other dragon aspects? the number of potential waifus would grow exponentially.

namely alex and ysera. maybe neltharion too
>>
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING SUPPORTS
WHERE IS THE FUCKING STARCRAFT MAP
BLIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
>>
Becoming the dragon knight is the best feeling you can experience in this game.
>dope music starts playing
>sky turns red
>YOUR ENEMIES SHALL FALL
Prove me wrong.
You can't ;)
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>>144017021
>change Ranger-General Sylvanas' recolours to green and red
>Ysera and Alexstrazsa are now in the game
>>
>immortals just killed
>our dude pings bruiser camp
>tell him to hold off
>ignores, clears it and caps it
>he escorts it into lane and promptly dies with it

fucks

sake
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>>144017351
being azmodan is pretty dope tho

>squishie's trying to get away after engagement
>pull a lebron james on him

>>144017769
but muh abilities in line with lore. Also alex is barely clothed
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>>144018013
>but muh abilities in line with lore
you mean "getting raped" and "sucking Malfurion's cock"? Sounds like compelling gameplay
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>>144018121
s-she wasn't raped, she served the horde to make cute dragons... also ysera is pure.
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>>144017021
idc about sylvanas painted red and green
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I hate sgt. hammer's siege model. She looks so damn tiny compared to other heroes.
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>>144012698
Yup. Daytime NA is dead as fuck.
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>>144017351
>he hasn't experienced that glorious feel when reaching lvl 20 as artanis and becoming absolutely unstoppable
also sniping with Tyrande's owl is fucking bliss
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>>143995720
The abomination that is the third Hobbit movie has a 60% fresh score on RT. If this isn't enough proof of movie critics being full of shit I don't know what is.

Movie critics are just as worthless video game reviewers. Better just to ignore them and see for yourself if you like it or not.
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>>144019254
also we're blizz fans so we'll gobble everything they shit out and praise it like it's the second coming of jesus
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>tfw no li-ming trailer
why didn't blizz make one for literal best girl???
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>>144020989
because she is best girl only in your head
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>game with a person that seemed pretty hostile since draft
>they facecheck a few bushes and die
>close game but we end up losing
>notice the whole while he is saying this is his alt and he has multiple accounts at rank 1
>check account he's on
>nearly 6000 games
>almost all heroes above 10, a bunch above 15
>don't see any ai/training matches
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>>144020989
No money for trailers anon
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>>144021438
fuck you!!!
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>>144021546
I fart in your general direction
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>team first picks tychus
>enemy team has tyrande, muradin, kael'thas
>tell everybody they have a lot of early kill potential and to be careful
>tychus swaggers into midlane
>E's into their bush
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>>144019254
60 is admittedly pretty bad. I know they call it fresh, but I wouldn't watch a 60. Anything even remotely decent gets like an 80, because the criteria is "inoffensive" or "bad", fresh and rotten. So a movie that most people say is ok will do much better than a movie that some people say is awful and some say is amazing.

I read some of the reviews and they basically all say "well, it is a Warcraft movie". Which I guess isn't good for most people.
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>>144019254

by abomination you mean the third hobbit film right
>>
Hey-hey, anon
https://youtu.be/8YyRBsI0ALc
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>>144023629
The idbecoolif Deckard cain was in hots gave me cancer, I don't want to also get AIDS on top of that
>>
He pm'd afterward to laugh at the ridiculousness of it
>>
post some webms faggots, use them as bumps
>>
What heroes do you want so you'll stop whining about the roster?

Pic related, Firebat, and Harth Stonebrew, just to piss off the meme haters[/spoilers] for me.
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>>144026458

Swing and a miss.
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>>144026458
I just want more variety in supports. I don't give a fuck which character it is
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>>144026458
Kilrogg
Mannoroth
Socrethar
Archimonde
Tyrant Velhari
Gui Montag
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>>144026741
Same, it's annoying that 90% of the supports are from warcraft
>>
Incidentally, that's why I hate Blackscrubs Bay:

Blue team has all three keeps and a fort, a turn in from red won't hurt them. Red has zero keeps.

So what does blue do? Let them turn in once while taking total control of the map and waiting for them to depush catapults (red will inevitably have to in like 3 minutes, maybe less) and turn in safely then?

No. they rush pirate to turn in RIGHT NOW, risking losing a teamfight and all their coins and starting a comeback for red.
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>>144026458
Maiev
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>>144026458

More waifus like Azshara/Vashj, Shandris, spider lady from Diablo a female draenei also Kel'thuzad, Goliath and Maiev.
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>>144026458

>Cydaea
>Kel'Thuzad
>a shift away from healbot supports, and towards utility/cc-oriented characters like Tyrande, or the upcoming Medivh
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>>144026458
I want another tanky tank like Johanna. Everyone else is made of paper or gets completely fucked by a stun
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>>144028625
Maybe then people would stop bitching about Tassadar.
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>>144029139
You already got Chen, brah
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>Retard bitches whole game about not grouping
>Win within nine minutes

Well then... From launch that's the first time I've ever seen a toxic fucking AI player.
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>>144029325

Yeah, I initially liked the idea of a support champion incapable of healing, then realized it just (usually) won't work, at least not in solo queue.

>get into draft
>last pick says he'll fill, and willing to support
>gets to him
>I only have tass
>get into game
>somebody gets chunked by massive ability
>he casts psionic storm on them
>brief pause
>then shields

Sort of sucks he's mostly just a supplementary, kind of like Tyrande.
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>>144029878
if you had listened you would have won under 5
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>>144029994
And then I couldn't have occasionally tabbed out.
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>opposing team goes for epic 5 man gank in bot lane cursed hollow
>it fails
>sylvanas in our top lane isn't even hitting minions
>tell her to shove lane
>she says that's stupid and she'll get ganked
>full vision on enemy team, on the opposite side of the map
>no global abilities
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>>144029595
>Everyone else is made of paper or gets completely fucked by a stun
>gets completely fucked by a stun
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>>143968187
Dehaka and zagara hate each other in the campaign
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I am sorry, guys. My friend refused to play this but seems obsessed with OW. I guess I am out for now.
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>>144033265
It's pretty shitty to play right now anyway, dead as fuck and only horrible autists remain playing.
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>>144034268
I just can't find time. I've never had a friend get excited about playing online with me, so I have to take advantage of this opportunity before they decide that video games aren't for them.
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>>144026458
Teron Gorefiend, with abilities like Medivh except more focused on debuffs. Kind of like an Anti-Support.

Death & Decay could kill minions and reduce damage done by heroes in it, like the opposite of Azmodan's black pool.

Unholy Armor could be a shield that deals damage to the wearer and an equal damage to enemies close to it.

Haste would buff attack speed of a target.
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I don't understand how Im supposed to net 300+ damage, as people say with azmo's globe quest.

Do they just never team fight?

Am I supposed to be constantly blowing black pools on minion waves? Even then I net like 75 by the end of the match, how are you supposed to net this much, when it is imperative to be helping your team in fights?

Why no take the long range damage bonus which becomes useful, immediately?
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>>144037249
It's advised to have a laning buddy to help you clear the waves
Chromie's W is actually fantastic for this setup, actually
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>>144037249


>am I meant to use black pools on minion waves

Absolutely.

>75 by the end of the match

literally how
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>infernal shrines
>win punisher, xul goes to push in the other lanes
>rexxar goes to join him
>wtf?
>i need orbs
>somehow survive all the 3v4 and 3v5 punisher pushes
>xul murders the lanes
>rexxar eventually joins up after he finishes his fucking 500 health quest
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>>144037249
>75
LMAO
you actually have to time your hits if you don't have a wave buddy. At lvl10 you can clear entire waves tho.
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>>144037249

>75

generally have this by 10 even without somebody clearing for me, just auto attack to weaken them down a bit

pool + q whenever you can spare it to clear a wave preferably in another lane, preferably one that's unsoaked (last hits grant exp even if you're out of range)

or toss it on enemy heroes, especially when they clump up like on objectives or in those tight little corridors in cursed hollow

by late game your Q should be chunking squishies for more than half their health
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>>144037249
You need a buttbuddy who will set up the lane so you can one shot it. Good luck getting a random team mate to do it
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>>144026458
Rock and Roll Racer.

Maybe something like a speedy specialist.

Trait-Accelerator - Gain stacks which buff movement speed, lose a stack each time receiving damage (Talents allow you to add attack speed, more stacks, or gain a shield at max stacks), gain a stack every 3 seconds without damage up to like 25% speed buff

Q - RoadRage - Charge forward pushing enemies to the side and minitstun, leaves a "track" behind which speeds up allies as they move over it, Accelerator stacks are not lost of track

W-Shit a bomb the detonates on touch, two charges, (can add knock-back through talents)

E-RoadKiller-Become Unstoppable and able to pass through enemies, deals damage when you run over stuff, can't lose stacks while active, 5 seconds (add damage reduction with talents), talent can run over minions multiple times and does extra damage to minions

Ult - Ready Set Rock - Two Cars spawn on either side of Racer, They all charge forward with Racer slightly ahead. Deals damage on collision and does a small knock back. Each collision slows the racers down slightly. If the player racer reaches the end first, they get a massive heal and the other two cars explode and deal moderate aoe(The trick is to cast it so you only hit with the side cars)

Alt Ult - Finish Line - 3 charges - drop three way points anywhere on the map. Periodically spawn a car which will run back and forth damaging and slowly enemies along the way, up to three cars at once, if three cars are blown up, effect ends (hold alt to immediately spawn a triangle around the player)

I dunno
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>>144039710

>another mobility hero

pls no i'm still recovering from ming and tracer

give us a stone golem that gets progressively slower as it wanders around the battlefield collecting deposits to build itself bigger and stronger, lost on death, or something
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>>144040000
>tank hero
>massive hitbox
>20% movement speed reduction
>as much hp as other tanks but a regenerating shield worth cho'galls hp
>all abilities are mostly CC or other annoyance for the enemy back line

Moving ward like Leroic except it will be useful and alive while doing it
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>>144040540

Yeah, I just wonder how heavily sales factor into Hero design, game health, and all that

Hope we see more 'modest' heroes like Dehaka, and fewer like Ming and Tracer
>>
>>144040540
Morchok when
>>
Would you consider Xul's talent build variable or is it Spooky scary skeletons build or bust with only the ult being interchangeable?
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>>144042045
I go straight scythe, every talent, except Cursed Strikes Heals You for Heroes Hit talent on 7. Skellies on 10 (Nova on a map that doesn't have Morales, LiLi, Two Supps, or where you'll hit at least 3-5 people every time).

4s scythes, w/ slows, w/ MS. Broken.
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>>144041297
or they could just release OP shit to nerf later to spur initial sales.
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>>144040000
>>144040540
So what you guys are saying is you want a NE bulding that goes around the map and can root itself to give bonuses or something? That'd be cool, like a moving building.
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>>144042045
All builds are valid imo, scythe build for safe poke, cursed strikes for max brawling potential or skellies to push shit in. It really depends on what you're good at or what you want.
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how i spec azmodan ?
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>>144042045
I normally decide between Shade or Backlash at level 1 depending on their comp, more often than not, it's shade. I feel like Shackler would be better if Xul's E didn't do what he'd pick that for, for him. Another variable is at level 20 picking Raised Mage if I know they group up a lot and we can get picks so that we have a way to stop them from running all the time and the extra damage doesn't hurt. Mortal Wound if they have a heavy healer like Lili, Morales, Uther or Rehgar, nothing brings a bigger smile to my face then hitting someone and afflicting mortal wound on them right as Rehgar ults them and they only get healed for 75% of the initial heal cannon. Bone Spear if I want damage, but most of the time, I only really get it as a poke tool.

>>144042815
This guy summed it up perfectly. You can't really fuck up Xul unless you decide to minmax talents or pick up Shackler at level 1. My most used build is http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/xul#oszs and it seems to bode well for me in Master as being such great utility and still having damage, but if I feel like I need to carry or I go Backlash, I'd normally change the build to http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/xul#h9ng

Again, its always open to change and if they have people reliant on right click, you can always go Shade or Weaken if you are confident in your support's ability to keep you alive or it's a Rehgar/Uther.
>>
tracer has such a retarded voice, literally downs tier
>>
>>144042651

Yeah, I actually had an ancient in mind. Something to mix things up, that isn't a gotta-go-fast walking pentakill.

Sort of like Dehaka. Something that is just another good addition.

>>144043009

1) Taste for Blood - We shootin' for the late game
4) Army of Hell - It makes the ability usable
7) Infernal Globe - Quicker, easier-to-hit Q, which is what this build focuses on
10) Black Pool - Alt+R to self cast, generally dropped on self to empower Q
13) March of Sin - This row is sort of flexible, and I'd suggest Hedonism if you find yourself runnning out of mana, or *maybe* Relentless if the other team just happens to excrete crowd control
16) Battleborn - Similar to above, you have a few picks here. Blood for Blood if they've got beefy Heroes and you need the healing, Improsing if you dunked an AD carry earlier in the game and they want your ass
20) Whatever - Probably the most flexible; I usually go for Fifth Circle to help catch people out, Forced Recruitment if it looks like buffing lanes would be more beneficial, and of course good old Bolt of the Storm to escape, gap-close, whatever.

I don't know if this build is any good, but it's what I've found to work for me.

And friendly reminder you don't have to last hit for stacks with your Q, they just need to die with in 1.5 (I think?) seconds, so it's fine if you dunk them right as Kael drops his Flamestrike, Jaina Blizzard, Johanna Condemn, etc.
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>tfw I have a 80%+ winrate and over 100 games with every single Diablo character and the only 2nd place is Rehgar at 41

I enjoyed the Diablo boner the devs had, they should get it again and make all of them top tier.
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>>143849145

HOLY FUCK, what is this, like the 3rd day of the same general? How dead is this game?

>>144042045

He needs his golems. Fucks sake, mage skellingtons should be a talent, not an ulti.

Just imagine getting mud golem at 10 and a glorious fire one at 20. What a waste.
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>>144044836
I've always wanted Meat Golems as his ult, but I feel like it'd be a reskin of Gargantuan. D2 Necromancer was my childhood and im upset he doesn't have all of his spells, but im ok with some of them gone because they'd work exactly like pre-existing moves
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What can you do to save this boat, revamp the whole thing? some small but substantial changes here and there? Advertising? Clearly something has to be done
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>>144047271
Remove Tracer

That'd make the game much more fun to play and attract players knowing that HotS is cancer free
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>>144047271
add Kilrogg
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>>144047271
Add Tracer skin you get in Overwatch for getting Tracer to level 10. Boom, a million new players in a day
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>>144047271

>personal kill streaks
>optional all chat
>receive notification when somebody you reported is punished
>in-game clock
>gifting of heroes/skins to others

These are just some things I've been hoping to eventually see.
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>>144048797
>>optional all chat
Just make it forced on

>in-game clock
Why?
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>Nova's triple tap can no longer be blocked by buildings and heroes after she hits a taget with pinning shot but it is now a skillshot the range of Chromie's boosted Q
>level 20 perk makes it lock on with the same variables (will go through everything if the hero targeted has been hit with pinning shot)

Would this make triple bronze less triple bronze and add a depth of skill to Nova?
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>>144048962

>just make it forced on

You're joking, right?

They don't even make you use your own teams chat, and remind you on a gamely basis that you can simply disable it.

>why want clock

Because I was trying to pad the list out.
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>>144048797
>in-game clock
It already exists. Click chromie's hourglass on the landing page a bunch of times.
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>>144047271
Use a new engine

Also this >>144047470
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>get the win 3 games daily
>oh boy here we go
>que into 4 grouped players on each team
>get stomped
>que again
>ally zag afks the whole game
>get stomped

QUICKMATCH PLEASE

FUCKING END ME AHHHHHHHHHH
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>>144050615

>queue versus AI
>set difficulty to "Beginner"
>get placed into game with a bunch of other people trying to quickly finish dailies
>smash a lane to core in 2-3 minutes
>either outright kill core or just B, hp/mana up and use a boss for lethal
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>>144051028
I've been doing this since a while now, relying on QM for wins is just begging for some shit to happen.
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>>144036002
I'll die before I see death and decay on anyone but kel thuzad.
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>LITERALLY MORE FUCKING HERO DAMAGE THAN ONE OF THE DPS
>but dont blame your team, its not their fault they are all fucking braindead autistic niggers
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Wait, what the fuck? Since when is Hive Master not a trap talent?
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>>144052763
>more hero damage done than any of the 0 assasins
HOLY SHIT
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>>144047271
>>144048797


>damage/healing breakdown; giant killer did a total of 6,819 damage, X% of your overall, safeguard prevented a total of 41,092 damage, 39% of which was on Muradin
>real stats page, kda, win/loss by hero, kill participation and so on
>removal of AI/training matches from total games played, and games played as hero; don't want people thinking I play Abathur just because I use him to afk all my dailies in Vs ai (playing with bots, I'm not rude)
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>>144053109

>mora than Illidan
>mora than Sonya
>more than Jaina
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>>144053449
>a hero with no burst
>a warrior
>the worst assassin in the game other than Kerrigan
Murky should beat all of them for damage unless the Sonya has pocket Morales
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>>144053449
Jaina never topped hero damage even when she wasn't the worst assassin in the game
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i dont understand what it is about MOBAS, no matter what i play, i play with the stupidest fucking people in the world, maybe 1 out of every 10 games will be good where i dont have some knuckle dragging troglodyte bumbling his way into my game and ruining my rank.

i have completely disregaurded rank as having any meaning because it has been made clear it is LITERALLY luck. no matter how good you play, if you have a fucking retard on your team you are going to lose, its IMPOSSIBLE to play so well that you make up for some idiot feeding 2 or 3 people on the enemy team.

any team-based game is fucking luck whether you win or not, and therefore rank has ZERO meaning.

this would be fine if the unranked wasn't so fucking cancerous and full with nothing but tryhard meta fags that only know how to play one character, or the same retards that you get in ranked, but even shittier somehow, like they have LITERALLY never played the champion before and have no idea how any abilities work, this always leads to defeat and its infuriating how every game is ruined by a stupid as fuck teammate.

like, if you are playing a DPS, and you have LESS DAMAGE than the healer of the team, you should commit suicide and never play the fucking game again, i dont even comprehend how you are so fucking bad.
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>>144053849
In other team games a skilled player can usually carry the team on their own, in hots it's almost impossible and one player can throw the game
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>>144047271
Nothing heroes doing fine as it is.
Moba is already overcrowded market.
As long as Blizz didnt drop heroes it always doing fine.
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>>144047271

I'd like to see party/teammate frames, and the ability to bind to quickly switch your camera to their view/position.
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>>144043879
>>144040540
Hmm, a giant ancient treat... Based on growth and slowing shit, sounds fun

how about the 20% move slow, but he has a persistent aura which has like an Artanis's ult sized radius. He's made specifically to counter heavy mobility teams.

Every second it apply a 5% slow up to 30%, lost if out of aura for a full second

Also his Z should be a global tp since hes so goddamn slow. After a channel he can pop out of the ground any where

Q-Take root-Become immobile but also ranged, ranged, each second gain a bit of shield and range

W-Bark Bite - Release all aura slow stacks, aura temporarily shuts off for 2 seconds, each stack deals 70 damage

E-Rolling Stone-Curl into a massive boulder after a 2 second uninterruptible channel, roll at normal speed to that location (aura still on) .25 - 1 second stun(Farther the contact point, longer the stun) , low damage.

Ult - Passive - generate a sapling every 5 seconds, saplings grant vision and when traveling near a sapling, gain 20% movement speed for yourself, and 10% to allies, very weak, saplings will generate a "fruit" every 10 second which will heal the first ally who enters for 100 hp or explode to slow the first enemy who enters. This allows a retreat network to be formed

Ult 2 - Will, of The Wisp's - A massive ring of wisps generated at the out edge of the slow aura, they instantly travel towards the ancient exploding and knocking back on contact, very light damage each, but a huge number of wisps, every wisp that reaches the ancient heals him for a little health
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>want to play support
>always first to pick
>only like ming from the OP assasins
>she's always banned
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It is very hard to go back to HOTS after OW. I get pissy in OW, but compared to this, jesus.

I spent three out of three games just constantly angry today.

Oh, focus Morales? Thanks. Thanks Chromie with twice as many deaths as everyone, I thought you would take care of that.
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>>143988068

Axolotl! We summon you!

Also, I guess that other huge leak (which included Superman and an Overwatch event) was fake and gay.
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>>144059206

That's not so bad.

>we have first pick
>It's meeee
>I hover Kael
>our dude bans him
>I politely suggest that in the future he allows the opposing team to ban Kael, and to consider banning something considered strong to that specific map, like Falstad on Dragon Shire
>tells me to shove it
>later in game I end up abandoning the objective
>this tilts the fellow so hard he starts running into turrets
>along with his duo-queue
>random third person joins in on the fun

First legit feeder/troll I've actually encountered, lol

>always wondered why nobody talked during draft
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>>144058794

>Blizzard: we herd you liek defense of the ancients so we gave you an ancient so you can ancient in your ancient
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>>144059547
Well Axolotl most resent prophecy is still in place, time will tell:

Gul'dan - probably around the movie release. His main trait is sacrificing life to do extra damage, then stealing life

Samuro - blademaster with stealth

Auriel - D3 angel with a resurrect ally ability

Varian - typical WoW warrior build with charge, taunt and a cleanse

skins: Volleyball Li-Ming, Mystic Kingdom Arthas, Mechalord Gazlowe

maps: 2 SC2 ones, Braxis Holdout (take objectives to send zerg swarm) and Warhead Junction (collect nuclear power items to send nukes)

mounts: Red Hare, Gyrocopter

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/username/Axolotl/
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>>144060872

But the movie is already out, unless it is released somewhere else in like 2 months time? It's blizzard we're talking one a month and it's not even been 3 weeks since chromie yet.
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>>144061350

Sorry I forgot to add.

for gul'dan, which would make his release in mid july.

Still though I have to admit I'm not looking forward to any of those characters.
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>>144060872
I hope this isn't true, like all of this sucks
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>>144061350
The movie date thing seemed like just a guess by him, not something from his source.
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>Kael'thas has something like a 99.5%+ participation in ranked play
>again
>he still doesn't deserve a new skin

>>144060872

This seems a tad dull.

>gyrocopter

Sort of expected to see this with the release of Mekkatorque
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Haven't played HotS in a yearish (I think the latest hero coming out when I stopped playing was the Terran Medic, around there anyway) What's currently the very strong and very weak heroes? So I know who to look out for in-game and those to avoid picking at first.
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>>144062220
Li Ming and Kael'thas are powerful. Thrall is good. Muradin is still good. Tracer is annoying, jury's out on OP.

As for weak, uh, Jaina. Azmodan. Hammer. Chromie. Uh...
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>>144062431
Ah yeah the LiMing looks quite strong. Jaina and Hammer are weak? Wow back when I last played there were like top 5 heroes in strength.

Also do people still complain about Abathur and not know how to play with one on their team?
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>>144062607
Oh also noticed that Tyrande's breasts in her 3D model are STILL fucked. They were fine then Blizzard changed (ruined) them. Surprised they're still not fixed.
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>>144062713
What, they didn't always point in two different direction because she's an old hag?

And yeah, people complain about Abathur. Admittedly, Aba is only good in HL for cheesing out with Illidan. And in QM, you get people who hat monstrosity in order to siege.

Anyway, yeah, Jaina got nerfed hard. As for Hammer, ehhh. She's not in a good spot.
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>>143895959
if the Heroes were like 2 bucks each i likely would of fell for it.
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>>144062838
Her breasts now start very low (like between the abdomen and rib-cage area and look bolted on.
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>>144062607

>hammer

She just sort of fell off. Li-Ming can match her in range, and because all of her abilities are skillshots (and deal significant damag, because they aren't terribly easily to hit) hammer is just a sitting duck.

Niche, but she can shine in certain compositions

>jaina

Ice Block moved from 13 to 20, replacing bolt of the storm. otherwise pretty much the same. She was reduced in price from 10,000 to 4,000 for some reason, so everybody has her now. Seems to be the go-to when Ming and Kael are banned (literally 90% of games)


>li-ming

Eh, I don't want to call her overrated, but she isn't as out of control as Kael, and there are often better early picks (Xul on Tomb, Zagara on Blackheart's etc) definitely strong if you can land abilities, though

I've had more than a few games worth of people getting tilted in draft when they see the opposing team being "given" ming, so far as to call gg, even

>>144062713

At least they finally gave her facial animation. Wonder when they'll get around to the demon hunters
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>>144062607
>abathur

Yeah, people still bitch about him. He's fine, though.

>Li Ming

Strong, but Kael is stronger.
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>>144063504
>Seems to be the go-to when Ming and Kael are banned (literally 90% of games)
No she isn't, KT and ming are banned like every game and even then you don't see Jaina much at all, she is still a burden on the team even when the other mages are banned out.
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>>144066179

>don't see much Jaina at all

She's in, like, half my games.

>burden on the team

I don't know about that, but she does definitely seem a little hit or miss.

>enemy first picks greymane
>my team decides to counter with Jaina and Lunara
>they feed half a dozen kills each in the first five minutes and blame the tank/support for not peeling enough
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>>144066179

like in diamond master (master she is only picked 9% of the time) she is only in like 1 out of ever 5 games if that in lower mmr ranks she might be seen a lot because everyone owns her she is seen maybe every other game in the bronze silver gold rankings
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>>144055449
but you can literally get to r1 in 24 games, including placements. There's a streamer who just did that yesterday. You CAN carry, but it's not just about skill, it's about LEADING your fucking team.
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>>144069491

>You CAN carry, but it's not just about skill

yeah

sounds like hots
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>>144060872
How would a taunt even work in HotS? I recall there was a taunt on mountain giant in WC3, but I don't remember how it worked on player controlled units.
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>>144070316
make all of your allies untargetable
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>>144070402
So, old Sanctification?
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>>144070556
sort of, but targeted on enemies instead of your allies
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>>144060872
TASTUH MAH BRADE!

I'm not really excited about other characters, but more supports are welcome, shame just one and only after next two assassins. Or will Gul'dan be a specialist?
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>>144070629
Ah, so "this particular enemy cannot attack any of your allies, only you, for X seconds"?
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>>143870636
none malfurion licks her clean while illidan watches through the bushes
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>>144070762
yeah, but he'd still be able to hit them with AoE and skillshots, just no AAs or direct target spells
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wow Lunara is CUTE!
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>>144075121
Said no one ever
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>>143928262
>betterlunara.jpg
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http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/21059-naventic-announces-twitch-partnership-chinese-teams-disband/

when do we die
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>>144075934
when blizzard runs out of drones to fleece. probably going to be in undead mode like this for a long time.
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>>144075934
>Plenty of Chinese Heroes of the Storm teams have disbanded recently. The reason behind it is that many esports organizations in China consider Heroes of the Storm a "dead game" with no bright future.

ded gaem
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>>144075934
Overwatch really killed this game
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>>144075934
>being this much in denial
>thinking sc2 isn't dead

it's only alpha!
it's only beta!
it just launched!
it's only been out for a few months!
it's only been out for a year!
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>Dampen Magic
>Available at level 1
>18.75% uptime
>Small recharge time

>Spell Shield
>Available at level 13
>10% uptime
>Big recharge time

Spell Shield buff when? Would also help combat the endless Li Ming/Kael cancer.
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>>144078432
Why would they nerf chromie and jaina?
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>>144075934
Honestly, I don't give a flying fuck at this point.
HotS is the only AoS-type game that is fun to play at this point, LoL wasn't that good to begin with and the recent changes made it even worse; DotA is massively stagnating while the recent updates push it to be more League-like. Other potentially interesting games choke and die because nobody wants to play them.

Not to mention, who gives a shit about the chinese, they're only after the money anyway.
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>>144078432
>i don't understand the game
just shut the fuck up about mages already
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>>144077779
MVP Black is considering leaving next year as well:

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4lxvm2/coach_kims_interview_on_beginnings_of_mvp_black/

I mean it makes sense, if you are playing professionally and there are barely any tournaments or sponsors and the tournament winnings are so low anyway it's not really worth it.
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>>144075934
>>144079036
>chink and gook leave hots
With those slave monkeys leave HOTS pro scene fun to watch again.
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>next to no art and r/34 of Chromie
just kill me now
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>>144079720
people don't make r/34 for a ded game anon
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Are hotsfags going to admit that this was a casual game and it was DoA yet?
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>>144079720
I've seen one, but it was Fel, so.
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>>144080865
It was advertised as a casual moba, but everyone knew it was ded for a while
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>>144080865
>casual MOBA
>one miscoordinated play can ruin the games ten times harder than in League or old DotA
People in charge of being logical, every time.
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>>144081272
>no comeback mechanics makes a game good

I bet you like meme mines too
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>>144081350
I wasn't talking about comeback mechanics, I was talking about how HotS's requirements for coordination are a lot more tight than in League and sometimes in DotA. Since teams remain at relatively the same power level (outside of 2+ level deficit) throughout the game and there are almost no vision supplements, a lot more boils down to positioning and shot-calling, than in, say, League.
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>>144080865
>was
it's hardly even begun.

>>144081272
trash think the only skill is mechanics

>>144081350

fuck off

>>144081839
he knows you weren't. he's just a shit stirring retard.
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>>144081350
The comeback mechanics are the winning team making one mistake in the late game
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>>144082072

>the person who just so happened to be your walking ATM on blackhearts bay decides to push a mile out to clear a minion wave
>gets ganked
>team??
>watch your massive lead just fall apart
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Why does Player Fantasy and the most competitive build so rarely intersect? You can SEE what builds were designed to be the most fun, but the correct build is almost always a hodgepodge.
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Does the Chromie start screen even have anything you can click?
I tried spam clicking all over it and outside of clicking Chromie, nothing happens
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>left a lost game yesterday
>leaver queue for one game
Is this going to be a shitshow?
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>>144084868
Her feet make an ingame clock appear for Reddit memes.

I can't make her say more than one line though and it pisses me off.

Anyway, ETA on Medivh? It seems like it has been ages since a new hero.
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>>144085047
auhaaah it's good to see ya :D
>>
How do I GIT GUD?

I feel like I'm playing optimally. Helping in team fights and trying to grab objectives but for some reason I keep losing.
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will the new ranked system revive this game
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>>144085241
I'll be honest, I have no idea. My thing is if you are constantly frustrated by your team, it is better to join them than oppose them.

>>144085240
Least you are cute. But seriously, Blizz, couldn't afford two more lines and one joke? Every other hero had it!
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>>144085503
I doubt it. Most people don't even play HL. They just churn out AI and QM games. I honestly don't know.

It is such a good game. My friend just don't want to deal any more.
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>>144085558
It's like she is stuck in a time loop or something
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>>144085241
play murky
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>>144085668
If they played like a little sound effect before each line, that would've made the joke a bit more obvious. Ah well.

Also, Chromie officially sucks, right? I like her playstyle, but I am always upset when we have one on our team.
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>>144085953
Is this running on a toaster or some shit?
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I have 130 games with 60% winrate and 3400 estimated MMR by hotslogs, what rank can I expect to be when I finally manage to get enough heroes for ranked?
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>game is so dead I'm running into bot team mates at 2.5k mmr
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>>144087206
r1 is 2300-2600 bracket
However people play differently in HL but you'll have absolutely no problem with it and reach 3k ez pz
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>>144087487
Great, I have another question to ask, in my placement matches does the level of my hero matter? Can I just pick my best heroes and place super highly or will I get matched against better people due to higher hero level?
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>>144087756
that rule applies to QM only
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Hey guys i need help.
How the fuck do i fix the download at 0kbps?
I mean, i can play matches buy holy shit that 1gb file left is triggering me.
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>>144085503
>that webm

But Chromie is OP guys!
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Two weeks until QM is flooded with Medivh shitters. Just imagine it.
> only goes Q talents
>only self casts the shield
> only uses the portal to escape
> lands the aoe stasis during a teamfight
> runs away
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don't see how it can be worse than feeding chromies
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>>144089159
>implying Medivh shitters won't pick Polybomb and then use it on an isolated target
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>>144089159

>people seeing his specialist tag and think he fulfills the same role as sylvanas, zagara, xul or even fucking murky

>>144089202

Had a first pick Chromie the other day, actually. Other team drafted Illidonger/Chen and dove her all game

>still a landslide victory in our favor because outside of the hunt which was always used on chromie they didn't have any stuns/cc
>they got the snu snu
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>tfw you know you lost the game after 3 minutes of playing
I just started making meme mine traps after that
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>>144089740

>taking three whole minutes to realize which hero you're playing
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>>144089386
Will I be able to poo over players in bird form?????
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>>144090384
If you can't, that's a huge dealbreaker.
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>>144090467
Maybe as a taunt animation????? Like you're leading 16 -13 and literally shit on them in every conceivable way??????
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>>144090553

>love the banter in league with emote/animation cancelling

At least they let us cancel dance, I suppose.

>laning against some rude dude who tries to taunt
>land all the abilities
>leaping dwarf flies out of bush and stunbolts his ass
>he dead
>toss in a bstep for good measure
>he dives me to his death every fight
>may have actually won because I tilted him like two minutes into the game

Just wish we had a Hero mastery emote, or something.
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>>144089202
the 500 mmr first placement game first pick laser build azmodan that keeps frying bot tower without a minion wave to soak shots
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>get into draft
>somebody high in pick order hovers chromie
>locks in
>somebody immediately dodges

thank u friend whoever you might be
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>kharazim free week
>they're always off by themselves laning, jungling, or otherwise sieging their ass off

what is it about this character that attracts anti-social retards who love ignoring their role and becoming trans-specialists. I'd really love to break their thumb and forefingers one by one
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>>144090384
you can only poop on their mounts
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>>144091067
are there penalties for dodging?
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Speaking of Kharazim, how does one talent him?
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>>144091376

I was under the i impression you lost, like, two entire ranks, so six losses worth of games for dodging

Not sure though, as I haven't done it myself. Nearly did on an alt account, though
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>>144091434
heal or assassin
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>>144091376
dodgin should be done via vote and without penalty, like 4/5 of your team need to agree with the dodge or shit like that, they're not adding the surrender while matches are going, at least give us this
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>Now i am complete!

What did he mean by this?
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>>144091575
that is gonna be abused
a lot
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>>144091780
who says this, dehshithaka?
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>>144091780
Yes, you are fucked!!
Shit out of luck!!
I am complete and my cock you will suck!!
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>>144085503
ill start playing again because faggots that are silenced will be banned from HL
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>>144091902

>first pick on tomb is hovering autistathur
>only constant
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>lose 6 games in a row in QM
Time to play HL and get my win streak
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>>144093117
>first pick hovers your waifu
>you're not into NTR
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>>144093630
I lost two games with Anub yesterday. Kept being the only tank against shit like ETC or Diablo.
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Is it me or are there suddenly a lot of "okay" heroes? I feel when I started, there was good heroes and bad heroes. Not so much now. Like every support is kind of eh, sure. Lots of warriors are decent, even all the bruisers are pretty solid.
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>>144085953
aspect ratio
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>>144095106

Eh, sort of. A lot of the Heroes, I think, aren't as bad as they're made out to be.

>artanis players
>nova players
>zeratul players
>"this is X niche heroes best map!" players
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>>144094102
Just saw anub blow up from ~80% hp at level 20. One frame he's there, second frame he's gone

He got hit by jaina ulti+cone while vulnerable from BW sheep
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>>144092623
>tfw I program my throws to mantain a 50% WR while also flaming my team in a non-bannable way by being passive-aggressive as fuck.
Literally lmaoing @ ur life rn
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>>144095929
I don't know how to play new Anub. At least with old Anub you knew to save your burrow for escapes. Now the best build requires you to actually hit shit with it, but diving like a dickhole is a great way to just immediately explode, even with all the spell shield effects.

Especially if your team doesn't follow.
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>>144095106
the low end seems closer to the middle lately. there's really only 1 or 2 out of each subclass touching onto solidly bad. the game is finally starting to come together i think.
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>rank 12
>people still play as they just dont know what to do
>tanks die in seconds, healers heal less than regeneration
>how am i supposed to reach at least rank 10 with that amount of shitters in every game?
>how did they even managed to reach this rank?
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>have to waste one of my bans of chogall because these two retards I keep getting matched with insist on trying to meme with them
FML
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>tfw stuck at rank 3 despite 3k mmr
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>>144097573
I cho'gall with a friend, we win more then lose.
Don't force him into any comp, but he can for sure work if the two playing him are competent and know how to play.

I'm sorry if you end up with two random scrubs playing him for no reason and dragging your team down, but don't hate on the cho'gall just for being meme.
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>sonya in draft asking for an illidan ban

?
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>>144099073
>fear
Your sonya is a coward. You will have to protect her. She will leave fights early to save her own skin.
...you may lose.
I'm sorry anon, you didn't deserve this fate.
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>>144026458
Azshara
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>>144026458
>>144026741
Same, there's to little non-WC supports. Or supports in general. Other than that, I don't really whine about roster. But I'd love Blademaster and Mengsk in game.
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how does it feel to get cucked by your own sister-game, HOTSHIT?

lelelel kek XD
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>>144099662

>playing any form of immobile, melee-only hero that can't even reach her
>get a tracer that's not shit enough to know you can't touch her and just sits outside of melee range
>try to hit her with anything
>lmao three dashes

holy god, first li-ming with her infinite poke and now this

supportless abathur mine cancer level to play against without lockdown
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>unranked draft announced

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20131413

Looks like it'll be coming out with season one.
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>>144099845

just get a blink dagger/force staff or get the flash summoner spell......

oh wait XD I forgot Mr. Browder removed all that "unfun" and "burden of knowledge" "toxicity"

you are right your game is TOTALLY 2016!
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>>144100321

>my game
>implying I do anything other than collect gold from dailies and afk train

Perhaps things'll start getting brighter after the first season ships.
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>chromie health buff
>chromie damage buff and reduced cooldown on Q and W
>they buffed her damage
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How do I git gud with Zeratul? What talent build should I use as a beginner?
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>>144100974

>as a beginner

A different Hero.
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>>144101064
I meant beginning with Zeratul, not the game itself.
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chromie buff
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20131418/upcoming-balance-update-notes-june-2-2016-6-1-2016

>>144100828
i don't get her damage increase and cd reduction on Q and W. they are already so high to compensate the difficulty to hit them.
she isn't good on every map and needs above average teamplay which is ok imo but this will make her op in some situations
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>>144102089

Yeah, that's what it feels like.

She honestly already felt reasonably solid, at least when she isn't counter picked. Same could be said for a lot of heroes, though. Also loses some value in that people often go for the hard engage, even if they have a poke composition.

Perhaps we'll be seeing the winrate of our little mage hammer go up
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reminder that anniversary bonus XP event starts tomorrow

>Starting June 2, players will be granted an additional 50% bonus XP for games played until June 14!
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>>144098382
The problem with cho'gall is that if it dies in late-game, it's an almost certain loss.

The guys I got matched with were sorta competent, and I was banning the first time too, and we built the team around them since they hovered from the beginning. It wasn't a stomp at all, but we lost because of them. The next match I got in with them again, and they started hovering again, so my 2nd ban was for that.

Don't get me wrong, I like memes, but one meme match is enough.
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>>144102634

How did that second game go? Because target banning not one, but two teammates seems like a rough go.

I've only had one HL game with a Cho'gall, and I just decided to embrace it. They didn't pick him blindly, and the opposing team attempted to counter pick, but it was an absolute steamroll in our favor. They weren't even queued together.

Cho'gall was a neat idea. Sort of wish Gall was a little more animated, though.

>if kael'thas, the most popular hero in the game still hasn't gotten a skin imagine how many years it'll be until the ogre of twilight gets one
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>>144103043
the second game we won despite a semi-attempt at throwing, like picking shitty ults, one of them went sonya leap lvl20 talent, which fucked us over a couple times but was completely memetastic to watch.
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>>144102089
Even they agree that Chromie is expected to have low win rate.

Confirmed not OP at all
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>enemy li ming just pushing lanes all game
>in hero league
>at rank 1
How do these people get to rank 1 in the first place?
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>>144100182
nice, I'm liking the changes to MMR too, I'm not sure if this will be enough to revive this game
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>play 5 games of HL
>win, loss, win, loss, win
>spent 2 hours playing and all I got was 100 ranked points
>implying it's not forced 50
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>>144102610
I was somewhat interested in the bundle
I might even buy it, if it isn't as brainlessy expensive like all other bundles (my personal limit is 15 yeuros, a cent more than that and it is a no no)
it might be cheap, since it has no skins, just heroes, 1 mount and 1 stim
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>>144102610
Neat.

>>144102089
Yes! This is gonna be great.
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>desperately trying to grind from rank 10 to 1 before season release
>doesn't feel like I'm going to make it
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>>144108612
Dude, I tried to rank up to 20 to get the mount and I dropped even more.
I'm really not going to make it
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>>144108975

I genuniely don't know how people rank up after messing up initial placements.

Win two games, get paired with a muted, ping-spamming Nova who ends up feeding 13 kills.

:(
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>>144109813
I kinda did that.
I'm not saying that I'm actually a grandmaster rank who got placed into bronze because of their team mates, I'm silver or at best gold, so I'm still a shitter.
But since I rushed to do my placement matches when I didn't have full understanding of the game, I got placed at the bottom of the barrel
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>>144110124
>>144109813
>>144108975
I got rank 43 after placements. Jesus. I played four games since and am now rank 38. Yeah. Not happening.
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>>144098382
>tfw I got a chogall on my team where gal actually managed to do less damage than cho
Just kill me
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>>144110124

Yeah, that's what I did, sort of. Read a lot about the game, but didn't play it as much. Also played pretty 'soft' Heroes in games I easily could've carried on Xul, Zeratul, Zagara, Sonya, etc.

Played my smurf up to rank 5 in, like, 40 games, or something. Main is stuck around 12-13, which genuinely feels more difficult than rank 5, lol
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>>144100182
Do you think they'll leave in the lv 5 req for the 14 heroes?
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>lvl 20
>we lose an engagement -1player
>retard cries "go boss!!"
>team mates actually try to take boss
>they get it, I and another player die
>"hurr r u retarded"
>proceed to absolutely throw the game by feeding like mad
lmaoing
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>blackheart first pick
>tell captain to ban illidan
>'lol why ur an ideit'
>enemy team insatlocks illi
>cant wait to see what rank this retard is
>r1 and highest on our team
>his rehgar duo follows him the entire game
>proceeds to feed enemy team 8 times in random spots around the map
>call him out for being a complete fuckwit
>NO UR BAD
>follows up with the rage PM after

Thankfully only two more weeks until the system filters these fucking retards out.
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>>143864408
Why do fat people have to turn their body into a metronome when moving their feet?
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>>144112387
They also have the tendency to jack off while livestreaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEbHp89iCaM
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>>144048797
>optional all chat
>PIss off a teammate, he starts calling all your plays in chat.
No fucking thank you. There is no reason to talk to the opposing team other then to make an ass of yourself.
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>>144113646
>muh serious competitive environment
dude if I want to comment a play and exchange "xD"s with the opposing team I want to be able to. This is one of the reasons this kiddie game of policed communications is dying.
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>>144114000
>I should be allowed to throw games and by a retarded asshat if I want too
play Dota then
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>>144114140
there's a reporting system, you know
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>>144113646

>somebody on your team relaying information
>implying the game isn't already beyond over at this point because it's a 4v5 or worse

And it'd probably lead to toxic individuals receiving punishments quicker. As of now you don't know if the Kael'thas is verbally abusing his teammates when my Sonya spears his face, and it'd be nice to come together and make sure nobody has to queue with these people.
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Chromie buffs!

it was fucking nothing other than a health boost and a nerf to mobuis loop and nerfing her level 15 talents
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>>144114993

>damage buffs
>she already 1-shots things
>from off screen

why

why do they keep making these cancer heroes

could we just get like a giant groot, or earth elemental that lumbers around at 80% movement speed

or perhaps a "real" high-skill hero, unlike that li-ming thing they bungled
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>>144115228
They are barely buffs to damage, oh shit 10 more damage on her q, on shit 40 more damage on her w
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>>144115341

>mathematics
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>>144110597
if they do it won't be for long. the qm hate is just too strong for that to stand.
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Hey, what are a few of the accepted, or acceptable junglers?

Like, for Blackheart's Bay. Illidan, Sonya and kinky bug come to mind, but are there any others worth playing?

And it's probably more efficent to take camps as a group, safer too, but at this rating nobody really does anything except shoot for kills as early as possible
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>>144114993
Wow what a buff, 22 more damage on her Q at 20 and 84 more damage on her W. The health buff is nice but none of this will really help her. It was probably buffed to make up for the damage reduction of quantum over drive and the ability power stacking on her Q nerfs. She actually loses damage on her Q from that 5% nerf to QO.
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>>144114993
Mobius loop is still the same since her W base cd was lowered to compensate.
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>>144115228
>Chromie
>1 shot
>off screen
What, do you have 500 life and play on 200x200? wtf?
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These Chromie changes are awful. I don't know what Blizzard is thinking here. She's going to be the new old Nova.
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>>144117384
No she won't, easier to kill and less consistent damage. She still doesn't burst as hard as KT either.
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>>144117384
They want her to be a high skill-high reward hero, kind of like they tried to do with Nova, so instead of decreasing the wind up time on her spells to make them easier to land they buff the damage to make those hits you do land worthwhile.
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bronze dragons a shit
nozdormu a shit
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>>144117801

Sort of surprised they didn't reduce the wind up by 15-20% on her W, and/or the delay on her W

The arming time on her E, even
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>>144117997
t. Epoch Hunter
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Chromie will be able to kill squishies instantly with her Temporal Loop combo. Except with Nova, you can't avoid it if your Chromie is even remotely decent. I expect her win rate to rise to 53% at least.
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>>144116923
>84 more damage on her W at 20

that's like adding an aba slap to her w at 20 op op
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>>143855773
more emphasis on her psychic powers, greater damage output with no crowd control to speak of (basically make her Greymane But Different)

trait shields should have no duration so she can "charge up" in lane

keep the leap, lose the scoop and the blade enema
replace her scoop with a linear skillshot that increases damage with proximity
replace blade enema with razor swarm
keep ult 1, trash the ultralisk and give her something better
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>>144118453
No she won't, with the 5% reduction to quantum overdrive she will do less damage with her combo. She can execute it more often though. But let's not pretend theses are buffs to her actual burst, she can't burst as hard as kt or ming with their combos.

I really don't know if you are just trolling or what, but these damage buffs barely change anything other than seeing a slight reduction in her damage with her 15 talents.
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nova removed when? It's not the hero, but i swear 99% of people who play her are completely trash and feed like crazy while not contributing to the game at all.
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When are they going to move hots to a usable engine?
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>lose in HL, lose 100 points and get demoted to 5
>win the game after and win 22 points
WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZ
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>>144118689
I really expected that hadouken kind of thing that she is charging up in the tracer video to be her new ult
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>>144118689
God, I would hate that. I want a better version of the existing hero. Purple glow doesn't interest me as much as stabbing fuckers with your horrific mutations.
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>>144118689
I don't like it at all.

I'd say speed up the spikes and remove the stun from them, make a talent that slows them back down and adds the stun. Add a talent that makes the scoop longer and narrower. Give her more ways to generate shields. Replace the Ultralisk with a huge swarm of Zerglings, a smaller type of Zerg.
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>>144127896
Zerglings are permanent ( they down't automatically despawn ), but won't attack structures. They run away from structure fire if they take it and lurk in whatever lane they were summoned to attacking heroes who get close. They have the little leap wings so they can pounce people.
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finally bought chromie and HOLY SHIT, isnt she fun.
You need to be extra careful with her(and also VERY careful with picks and counterpicks in HL)but oh boy, she can deal ridicolous amount of damage when used properly.
one of the best assassins to play so far8at least, for me).
What build do you usually go for guys?
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>>144131598
I find Q is more reliable, and the quest is super easy once you get pierce.
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>>144132201
so far i go for q build too, unless there's an hammer on the other team. then it's w time for oneshot shaenenigan.
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>>144127896
>remove the stun

are you memeing on me rn
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>>144127896
Do you not understand that the reason kerri's W has that delay is so that it can combo with her E?
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>>144114993
That's a lot of words to say here is a small health buff and a slightly lower CD on your Q and W.
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Chromie free week when?
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>first picks
>zag and naz
>on garden
>they're grouped

fucking kill me
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What's a good first pick that's not an assasin?
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>>143901530
I've been forcing myself to learn him after the latest patch and I've gotten pretty good. I usually take:

Hunter-Gatherer
Crippling Talons (used to take Hungry Bear but I got a lot better at microing Misha
Aspect of the Beast
Unleash the Boars
Wildfire Bear
Feign Death/Primal Intimidation
Kill Command

I pretty much try to be as annoying as possible with CC. Put Misha on a squishy and just stunlock them every fight.
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>>144140276
Sonya. Xul.
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>>144140276
johanna.
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>>144140276

>rehgar
>johanna
>sonya
>zagara (blackhearts)
>xul (tomb)
>sylvanas (battlefiend and infernal)
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>>144140383

I feel like I have no impact with Unleash the Boars since I don't really know what to do with it.

Is it better to use it before you initiate or to catch low health heroes as they try to leave?

Should I just be saving it for choke points and ganks?
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>>144116169
Thrall, Zagara.
You can also try Gaz or PVE Rexxar.
Butcher can solo boss at lvl 16.
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>>144140772
You use the boars whenever the team fight starts swinging in one side's favor. If your team is on top, it'll help secure kills. If your team is losing, it helps you retreat. Also use it to keep stealthies visible.
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>>144140804

>soloing boss

Pretty sure Sonya can do this at a reasonable pace by level 10, wish try mode was an actual map, containing all the boss camps. Testing these things in custom is tedious, especially with multiple viable builds.
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>>144141018

I didn't even consider using it on stealthed characters. Thanks!
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>>144141445
It literally says "reveals all targets for 5 seconds" in the tooltip tho... glad to be of help.
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Hey, my brain is mush and I don't remember; do they always do a permanent price reduction on an old/existing hero with the release of a new one?

>>144141757

Eh, wording.

I could've sworn that when cast directly at a stealthed Nova/Zera with nobody else around nothing would happen, and boars wouldn't be summoned.

Didn't play Rexxar for long, I thought he felt horribly clunky, might have to try him out again.
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>>144141934
They don't catch heroes IN stealth, but they prevent them from re-stealthing. Usually I hit them with the bird, then the bear, then boars and one of my assassins finishes them off while they're running for their life.
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>>144141126
I think she needs Merc Lord for it.
And yes, try mode boss is a must.
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>>144142148

Ahh, I see.

Usually find myself only being able to spam ding danger with the heroes I find myself playing. Can be rough hitting a shimmer with a scythe, or infested drop.

>>144142393

I think so, yeah. I'll have to do a couple of kills later to see if it's possible without, and how long it takes.

And I thought Butcher can do it prior to 10, and Gazlow becomes capable around 10, with Rexxar being able to do it at either 4 or 7.

Out of the four I only own Sonya, so I'll probably just try her out in a bit.
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KINKY
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>>144140772
Pretty much what the other guy said. In a teamfight if you're losing, use it to help kite or escape, if you're winning use it to secure kills.
I do agree that it is pretty underwhelming for an ult though. I think they need to increase the damage, or at least the slow % It's awesome at 20 with the root
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I just had Bizarro HOTS. The enemy team ignored objective LITERALLY all game. But somehow, we still weren't winning. They brought the core to 16% then got wiped, but we didn't win yet. Then they brought it to 13 and got wiped (they took care of a fort and ignored a channeling Nazeebo). We STILL didn't win.

One terror ended up taking out the core. Literally every instinct I had that game was wrong.
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Artanis is fun as fuck.

Why are bruiser so FUN?
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>>144148723

>enemy ignored objectives all game

Early ones aren't very good, and you can easily get more done simply split-pushing uncontested (Xul, Sylvanas) pretty sure it's just to avoid having the winner of the first objective snowball out of control

also the mental aspect, with people calling gg after the opposing team gets the first punisher, even if Xul shoved the other two lanes harder than the punisher will push yours

>>144150587


>why is it fun to be a bully things that can't bully me back
>tfw playing sonya and nazeebo walks into my bush
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VALLA
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I queue up ONE game as Chromie and I am facing a Butcher and a Nova.
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>>144152037
BEST GIRL
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>>144152029
But like, all game? It did make sense early on that Sylvanas wrecked shop, but every single one?
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>>144152174
If you let sylvanas push lanes uncontested. you will get rekt
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>>144152174

>win objective after a three minute struggle with deaths on both ends, leaving all players drained of health, mana and abilities
>the punisher is baited over the wall, killed and does less than a third of the forts health

Yeah, no idea. Groups always lose their shit if I go to split-push on Xul, Sylvanis, or any other hero that gains more value in the situation. Xul doesn't do much to structures, but he's pretty great at clearing waves, for instance.

Solo queue things, I guess. Usually tell people on Infernal that, depending, I'll probably shove in off lanes during punisher push, and to play safe.

>they get quadra-killed
>I get spam pinged by three people
>at least one calls gg
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>>144152056
And the next game, I get bullied by Chen, Li Ming and Artanis.

I know I am a scrub, but fuck, it really feels as though I'm getting dealt a bad hand.
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I want to get better at Thrall. I'm not bad as him, but i wouldn't say I'm good either. Tips?
Also, is mana tide worth taking?
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>>144152523
We basically did, but they failed to finish the job every time. It was really weird.

>>144152969
Punisher is admittedly one of those maps where if you got 39 of the things, you would've been better off not showing up. Not a lot of objectives are like that. I never splitpush, the instinct is too engrained, but at my MMR, the objective regularly ends up doing surprisingly fuck all.

Spend half the game trying to get Dragon Knight only for it to maybe tickle a fort.
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>>144154090

Yeah, it's just how the game is played. Just the other day I had a towers of doom where the opposing team is posturing for a fight down bottom, and they're all around 70-80% health, and have brightwing.

My team, on the other hand, doesn't have a sustain healer, and we're all hovering about 20-30%, with even less mana. The opposing team has li-ming, and I was concerned we'd just get instantly wiped

>ping retreat, say in chat to let them have it, we can't contest
>all four of them die trying to defend
>get furiously pinged in mid
>duo-queue says if I'm going to let them die at objective they're going to throw game
>guy that isn't even in their group agrees
>sit behind wall in mid lane and watch the three of them just run into a mosh pit

I'm not saying giving up the shrine and core shots was the right call, but it was like seven minutes into the game, and we could have easily recovered.

>when tilting somebody on your team in draft by mistake loses you the entire game :(
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Any new skins announced? I am desperate to spend money for some reason.

>>144154654
Bleh. Yeah. I really need to get better about choosing when to contest shit. Everyone at MMR needs to.
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I try to get Arthas on Shrines to sindragosa the towers right after it's baited over. At the least, it lets the rest of your team to do all the siege damage and makes the enemy obligated to deal with the punisher first.
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>>144155207

Mhm, sometimes it's just best to go and do whatever the group is doing to avoid pissing anybody off. Morale is honestly a huge part of the game, for better or worse.

Had some guy in draft say that he was going to play Illidan and we couldn't stop him, so I convinced everybody to build an Illidan support team (Tassadar, Rehgar, etc) and it all worked out in the end, and the Illidonger even apologized, lol

>new skins

Just the hell billy, I think. Little green goat thing that'll go nicely with the store Chromie skin. Not sure if it'll be from the shop, though.

>still no new Kael'thas skin ;_;
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>>144155736
I have the pig for Chromie. It does mean I'm stuck playing base skin Chromie. Also, means I am stuck playing Chromie (fuck man, buff her already).

And yeah, no Kael, no Johanna (even though I actually do like Centurion), no Kharazim...
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>>144114993
That's not her problem, her problem is the terrible cast times and only 2 damage spells.
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>>144155852

>johanna

I'm not actually sure if I'll ever get tired of her base, default skin.

Master skin looks great, except for the helmet, I think.

>beach johanna when, just give her a pool noodle because she hits like one and a surf board for a shield or somethin'
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>tfw I've spent the last 3 days only using Xul in both ranked and QM to the point that both pages on my Hotslogs is just filled with Xul games

The best part is that I've won the vast majority of all of the games, Xul really is a great hero.
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>>144156070
I don't get people who say stuff like this. I get that Chromie is absolute ballsack right now, but homogenizing character's kits isn't a good idea. It'll remove all identity from them.
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>>144156202
I think i'm like 90% win rate with xul over 80 games
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>>144156202
He's a bit overtuned. I think there's no denying that.

I just am upset that he gets to be good and Gazlowe doesn't.
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>>144156202
>like the whole lane pushing game
>sucked at xul when leveling him to 5
I think I just suck at melee heroes in general
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>>144156276

>when nobody at my mmr even thinks to ban Xul on Tomb
>you're first pick
>shove all three lanes into towers by yourself
>either ultimate for the eventual clusterfuck of a teamfight

god i loved that map so much before Xul came out and now I love it all the more

>>144156548

I just think there's something satisfying about walking up and cleanly swiping down an entire wave (even better when it's 2-3 waves and/or mercs also) and healing to full from nearly nothing

nom nom

>when you leave an objective with no health to eat a minion wave for healing and one person notices and spam pings you
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>>144156251
If her Q could do damage to minions it passes through she would be pretty good. I like the delay on her spells but she needs pve stuff since objectives and soaking is so important.
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New thread

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