/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>>143840427
Nice OP image

>>143840941
Isabeau!

>>143840993
Isbeautiful.

>>143824375
>The Dark Spire
The class/skill system in that game was absolutely atrocious.

>Jack Lantern is a Jack-o-lantern rip-off
>Jack the Ripper looks like shit
>Hairy Jack is even worse
When will we get a new Jack that isn't yet another member of the bland and uninspired Meme Frost family gayshit?

Is it bad that I want to fuck jack frost? There's not enough fap material of him and his brothers either.

>>143842553
It's bad, it's really really bad.

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>>143842548
Never

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Find a flaw.

What are the ultimate elemental skills in IV? I found Deadly Wind with Ganesha and Trisagion with Quetzalcoatl, but I can't remember the other two. Also is Jihad in IV?
>>143842820
She isn't in King Abaddon.

>>143842820
Ok: ugly hair style, awkward composure. too thin to be attractive, eyebrows that look fake and drawn on ,it looks like she uses black lipstick and her neck looks so awkward that it looks like it would break if you poked it.

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>>143842820
Traitor

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>>143842820
She looks like an ayylmao whose skin would burn away at the touch of sunlight

>>143842820
no calf muscles or apparent, defined hips and thighs

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Is this any good?

>>143844298
Yeah.

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>>143844298
Very.

>>143844347
I've only played SMTiv, really love it, I hear that SMT Devil Summoner SH, Devil Survivor Overclocked and Devil Survivor 2 all the same in terms of gameplay or are they different from each other?

I've seen some gameplay and it seems like its a party of all human characters vs demons as oppposed to SMTiv which is Protag+3demons+extra human in the party

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>>143842669
Then it's probably worse if I admit I've already came to the thought of screwing him or black frost.

Should I aim for neutral end in IV or just go for whatever in my first playthrough

Yu Namba, the Persona 4 Project Lead for Atlus USA, commented that while Kanji's Shadow might offend some players due to it being a gay stereotype, Kanji was nothing like a stereotype. Kanji's sexual orientation was left ambiguous to all players.[4] Namba added "We would like everyone to play through the game and come up with their own answers to that question; there is no official answer ... What matters is that Kanji's other self cries out, 'Accept me for who I am!' I think it's a powerful message which many, if not all of us can relate to."[5] Nich Maragos, Persona 4 Editor for Atlus USA, agreed with Namba, but personally held the opinion that Kanji was homosexual.


eat shit nich

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>>143845218
Ain't nothin wrong with that

>>143845218
>just bee urself
So deep.

>>143844828

I'd go for Neutral the first time around, but with New Game+ it's no biggie if you don't get it.

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>>143842820
>long-haired version

>>143845218
>Kanji's Shadow might offend some players due to it being a gay stereotype

Those people need to stop being so damn offended with the smallest things. Kanji's whole shadow area/boss/those two black dudes was funny as fuck.

>>143845694
I love Kanji, but I'm sure Nich's view helps fuel many a tumblr retard

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>>143845542

I'm finishing up a law route in SMT4 after going chaos the first time. I just found out about alignment-specific demons and it annoys me. Do any other games have something like that?

>>143847170
Yeah most do

>>143845218
It doesn't really matter if he liked cock or not.
He was a guy who had girly interests and tried to hide them, that's all.

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Pretty much everyone ever trying to pronounce nyarlathotep.

What are everybody's religious views and how does that play into how you enjoy SMT?

>>143848007
I don't have anything I believe in. So enjoy it for what it is with being biased in anyway.

>>143845994
But he does make it important that no matter the individual view, it doesnt really matter

>>143847952
Nyarly

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>>143848007
I'm Buddhist myself, I like reading the unit bois on each 'demon' and finding things that I already k ow about, but I also like the various references to all other religions and mythos of other cultures and even learning about certain other cultures beliefs, even if the info given is brief, gives enough to do research on my own of each 'demon'


Also it's real fun to create a team of Buddhist warriors


Ive read about how certain people in Hindu community was angered that their god Krisha was depicted with a fedora.

Ive known some christians disturbed that every enemy and recruit is known as a "demon". Angels, Archangels and stuff referred to all as demons.

Though, i dont find offense in it. MegaTen is fucking great in the effort they put of the interpretations and representations of all the faiths/beliefs, its really awesome imo.

>>143842820
>Find a flaw
Too many to count

Which Devil Survivor 2 route is the most satisfying for a first play? I got AO, Daichi, Ronaldo, and Yamato.

I'm generally a neutralfag.

>>143850158
I went with Daichi and ended up being very satisfied when the credits rolled.

>>143850158
The Daichi perfect end where you get absolutely everyone on board except AO.

>>143844828
>first playthrough
Play honestly. Don't be a fag.

>>143844649
Devil Survivor series are SRPGs that I haven't played.
Soul Hackers is a first person dungeon crawler with 2 PCs and up to 4 demons in a party.

>>143845218
Whats the matter, anon, scared of the idea of 2 dicks rubbing each other?

>>143850427
my honest self is to aim for the best end in every game mate

>>143852130
You should go for the White or Law endings then.

>>143852275
Hi Jonathan

>>143852352
Him committing suicide is the best possible ending though.

Been under a rock here, just saw the english apocolypse trailer. The fuck is wrong with isamonkeys voice? It sounded so chipmunkey.

LIVE IN BURIED MEMRY

>>143848964
What alignment?

>>143858378
DEEP INSIDE CONSCIOUSNESS

>human is bad demon is good
Every SMT

>>143848650
This. I've always been fond of using a cute name for an eldritch abomination like him.

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>>143844798 why don't you ask >>143842215 to draw something for you? Or are you that much of a faggot that you can't?

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>Enemy strikes first

>>143865237
Home > X

So there's no law/chaos but only multiple neutral route in Final? Is this a first for SMT?

>>143865779
I'm going to RP as a bi-neutral highschool student

>>143865779
There's a shitty Law and a equally shitty Chaos route, then there's the (hypocritical) "good" neutral and the "evil" neutral.

>>143842820
she's not sucking my dick right now

>>143865779
You can save ealry and see every ending in one playthrough, the game even encourages you to do so since afaik there is no extra content on ng+ and it doesen't track your endings like smt4 did

Any news about the fan translations?

>>143866750
>it doesen't track your endings like smt4 did
Pretty sure it does through titles. If that's worth anything is a different question though.

>>143866841
I stand corrected then

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>>143845218
>Nich Maragos, Persona 4 Editor for Atlus USA, agreed with Namba, but personally held the opinion that Kanji was homosexual.

>>143847170
In early games you can't summon demons of opposing alignment at all if you're too lawful or chaotic.

>>143866750
Atlus sent a C&D to every single one of them.

>>143868582
Except Gideon, who they paid $300,000 for his translation of IF so they can release it exclusive on iOS.

>>143867754
That seems very reasonable.
He agreed that the choice was better left as ambiguous, but he personally believes that Kanji is gay.

If they were EA or Activision they would have made him flat out gay with no space left for interpretation.

>>143868772
yeah but Nich Maragos is a faggot anyway

>>143868668
Gideon did not translate the game though, Ian Kelley did. Ian Kelley is a fucking legend, I wonder why the fuck he still hangs around Gideon.

>>143868772
I bet part of him wishes they could've made him gay.

>>143869871
Considering how long If has been sitting there, you should wonder when the last time they even spoke was. I wonder if he'd give a fuck he did that work for esentially no reason.

Where's the Megami Tensei 2 guy by the way?
He's been gone for a while.

If you could have one ongoing translation done now, which one would you choose?

For me it's devil summoner.

>>143871290
Probably Debisama, even though I've already beaten it.

And I'd say IF maybe except Gideon is a daft cunt who won't do the PS version because he's a FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT WHY DID YOU DO THE INFERIOR VERSIONS YOU WORTHLESS TRASH THEY PLAY 5 TIMES BETTER AND I BET IF THE PS1 VERSIONS OF 1 AND 2 WERE TRANSLATED INSTEAD OF THE SFC ONES PEOPLE WOULD COMPLAIN LESS ABOUT IT BEING HARD AND CONFUSING AND UGLY

>>143871438
I don't know how long it took him to do SMTI but the PS1 version only came out in 2001, so assuming it took him more than a year (patch came out in 2002), the PS1 version wasn't out yet when he started work on it.

>>143842820
Literally my favorite SMT grill

>>143848964
Underrated post

>>143871290
Debisama or P2EPP. Those games have lots of story dialog, unlike If and DDS2.

Well, my copy of DebiSama PSP finally shipped today. Hopefully I can finish EP before it comes in.

>>143871290
I would say majin tensei 2 spiral nemesis because that would imply that ghideon finished both if.. and majin tensei 1.

>>143882213
Clever logic. Let's think positive.

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>>143848964

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>>143842820
She's shit. SSHIITT

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>>143848964
> Ive read about how certain people in Hindu community was angered that their god Krisha was depicted with a fedora.

Its honestly not that bad, the only reason those people were mad was because supposedly that hat embodies the style and idea of early-mid 20th century gangsters. They really didnt want Krishna to be portrayed as such

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>>143842820

>>143888305
You wouldn't happen to have a render of Cleopatra from Final on hand would you? I saw it in an earlier /smtg/

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>>143889621
I assume you want it for chicken choking reasons?

>>143890095
Nah a profile pic, trying to find a version without the white background.

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>>143889621
>>143890095

>>143890457
>profile pic
Are you one of those facebook roleplayers?

>>143890742
Yes

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>>143890459
>>143890095
EXPAND DONG

>>143891316
Pure cancer.

>>143891316
Dare I ask what is it you exactly do?
Please tell me youre not tricking desperate NEETS into thinking youre actually a girl by using Fleo as your image...

>>143892029
Exactly this, mate.

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>>143892228

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>tfw Demi-Fiend says "Hail YHVH"

>>143892980
Huh?

https://youtu.be/l0WOx7WhB4E

Actual gameplay starts at the last couple minutes of the video. Music is pretty nice.

>>143842906
Cold World on King Frost for Ice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-s2joah25Y

Im kinda still new to this series

Could anyone tell me what the small +(number) means on my skills list?

I realized it increase with every demon that gets all its skills, but i cant tell exactly what it does.

Healing spells dont seem to heal more, and damage spells/attacks dont seem to do more dmg, effect skills dont seem to have a higher chance of afflicting effects AT LEAST thats what it seems to me.

>>143894019
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Whisper_event

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>>143892980
>>143893032
I think he' s referencing the new Captain America comic with pic related.

>>143892980
>>143894307
>demi-fiend was working for YHVH all along
>Lucifer found out and beat the fuck out of him
>that's how he ended up in SMTIV:A's DLC

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>>143894307
Oh, capeshit.

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>>143894081
Thank you much, makes things much easier

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>>143892980

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>>143892228
Please do not do that

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Beat him.

>>143896879
>inexcusable
What a whiny faggot

>>143896879
More like Beelzebitch.

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>High Pixie is changing forms, let it happen?
>finally
>Queen Mab

So where am I supposed to go after Mifunashiro?

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>>143892980

Just started SMT4.

What points do I dump on Flynn? All strength like with Demifiend?

>>143898605
no
All Dex

>>143898605
Dump them to either Dex or Mag. Str is next to useless in SMT IV.

>>143845218
>is attracted to a petite girl with a cute face
>is attracted to said girl even after she reveals her true gender
>wants to see her in a swimsuit
>gets flustered after she hears about her bust size
>gets a nosebleed after seeing other girls in a swimsuit
If Kanji's gay then I must be the straightest man on earth.

>>143899225
You're forgetting that he was still attracted to her even when he though she was a boy. If you see a boy and think he's cute and bangable, you're still gay even if he turns out to be a girl.

>>143899353
Except boy and girl Naoto look the same save for their attire

>>143899660
So? He was still attracted to someone he thought was a boy. It went beyond simple "oh he's cute" either, he could barely stand to look at her.

>>143899353
>If you see a boy and think he's cute and bangable, you're still gay even if he turns out to be a girl.
The definition of a homosexual requires the other to have the same sex, so either Kanji was a girl all along or he's not gay.

>>143899768
Male sexuality doesn't make dinstictions like that, since it's mostly visual. So if it looks like a girl then it's not gay to want to fuck it.

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>>143899909
>so either Kanji was a girl all along

>>143899909
He thought she was of the same sex. As far as he knew, she was a boy. He was still attracted to her. That's pretty gay.

>>143900021
In-game Naoto's supposed to look like a cute boy, even though it's super obvious to the player she's not.

>>143898605
Dex and Luk
Str is only good if you'll be using your regular "attack", so up it if you intend to auto through encounters

>>143840630
>>>/pg/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU-5waumsb8&feature=youtu.be

>that Flynn voice

>>143900202
>He was still attracted to her. That's pretty gay.
>He
>her
Do you see it? It doesn't matter how it seemed like, the fact is that he doesn't feel attracted to someone of the same sex, so he is not gay. He didn't want to fuck the Protag or that other faggot, the only person he felt attracted had a vagina

>>143900509
But he didn't know she was a girl. Let me put it this way:

>see boy
>think boy is cute
>can barely be in the same room as said boy without getting flustered
>this is somehow not gay

The fact that she was secretly a girl is irrelevant here, Kanji was still thinking gay thoughts.

>>143900684
>But he didn't know she was a girl.
Which doesn't matter at all since he doesn't feel attracted to males.
>>this is somehow not gay
Exactly.

Are you one of the guys saying fapping to "girls" with dicks (and no vagina) isn't gay because they look like girls except for the cock?

>>143901030
>Which doesn't matter at all since he doesn't feel attracted to males.

He evidently does, because he was attracted to someone he thought was male. He thought Naoto was a boy for the longest time.

>>143901137
Jesus, are you even reading my posts. His thoughts are irrelevant. If he felt attracted to a real male and Naoto, he would have been bi. He can't be gay as long as he feels attracted to Naoto.

>>143901470
Kanji can be bi. He's definitely not 100% straight.

>>143901569
>He's definitely not 100% straight.
Again, he is straight as long as he only feels attracted to a human with a vagina. Looks don't matter.

>>143901742
He felt attracted to a human he thought had a penis.

>>143901817
Do you know the difference between beliefs and reality?

>>143901569
>>143901742
>>143901817
>>143901919
Take this shit to /pg/.

>>143901919
There's no difference in being attracted to someone you think has a penis and being attracted to someone you know has a penis so long as the attraction remains unrequited.

>>143902112
What the fuck? There clearly is.
Does thinking you have killed someone make you a murderer?

I can believe that I'm gay all I want, I'm still straight as long as I fuck vaginas and don't get a boner while watching gay porn/fuck a guy.
You're hilarious for claiming otherwise.

>>143902470
>What the fuck? There clearly is.

Explain the difference then. Keep in mind I said unrequited.

>>143902749
Are you serious? The difference is you being aware of the fact that the other guy has a penis.
Being attracted to someone you think has a penis isn't gay when that person has a vagina, This should be obvious.

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>all these people not able to appreciate cock

>>143900469
I'm not discussing P4 and even that is okay. Fuck off, discussion police.

>>143903032
>Are you serious? The difference is you being aware of the fact that the other guy has a penis.

You can't be aware of that if it's unrequited. That's what I'm talking about. If you're just attracted to someone from afar and think they're a boy, it's gay. Just straight up.

>>143903096
Homos get out this is law territory.

>>143903124
Jog on m8, theres a persona general for a reason.

Reminder that the most discussion we've had in a long time was about cocks.

>>143903482
Stop posting

>>143903197
>You can't be aware of that if it's unrequited.
You're really funny. Did you ever see a family member of yours naked? If yes, does that automatically mean you are attracted to each other?

Again reality is what matters, not your thoughts/beliefs. Per definition you need to feel attracted to a person of the same sex to be homo.

>>143903596
This is a general of chaos

>>143903705
Uh, no? I feel like you're muddling up what I'm saying. If you're attracted to someone you THINK is a boy and you're male, then it's gay. If you later find out they're a girl, it ceases to be gay, but it was still gay when you thought they were a boy. This isn't complex.

Conversely, if you're a girl and attracted to someone you think is a girl, that's gay too. If you later find out they're a boy it stops being gay. I think that kind of thing is popular in Japan.

>>143904018
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality

>>143904212
I'm not talking about when you take their clothes off and have sex. That would obviously be straight. I mean attraction from afar. Being attracted to someone you think is a boy if you're male is gay. For the millionth time.

>>143892980
ONE MORE GOD ACCEPTED

>>143904368
This doesn't go anywhere.

>>143904368
>Homosexuality [...] is romantic attraction, sexual attraction [...] between members of the same sex or gender.
>romantic attraction
>sexual attraction
>same sex or gender

>sex or gender
Literally what.

>>143899909
>Kanji was a girl all along
>a movie written and directed by Hideo Kojima in association with Marvel Comics

It could work.

>>143904984
tumblr shit

>>143904984
And if someone is attracted to someone they think is their same sex or gender, it still counts.

>>143905397
So, it's not gay if I say I'm a little girl?
Anon, where do you live? I do have a cock but my gender is female, so no worries!

>>143905775
Doesn't look like it.
>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexuality
>http://www.dictionary.com/browse/homosexuality
You're free to invent a new word for the phenomenon you're describing.

>>143906127
>I do have a cock but my gender is female, so no worries!
Hello Asherah

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This demon breaks into your room and starts touching your favorite things.

What do you do?

>>143900483
How long do you think it'll be until people complain about the localization and censorship even though it's confirmed that the game is going to be rated M?

>>143906298
Ask him to stop leaving his goddamn fingerprints all over everything but berate myself for opting for glazed items instead of the superior matte but I figured it didn't matter at the time and then sink into a depression over my terrible choices in life

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>>143906239
she has a cock?!
pls no

>>143906448
it's already begun tho

ive seen people bitch and say NoA will change this or that even tho they wont even be involved

>>143906127
Explain how a boy being attractive to someone he and everyone else thinks is a boy is not gay.

>>143907204
Already did.

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>>143859320
Law

>>143888305
Pretty much this
>Zed, President of Universal Society of Hinduism, said that Krishna wearing a fedora is unacceptable, as he claims its a hat “widely associated with gangsters,” alongside his brown skin – contrasting it to Krishna’s usual appearance – wearing a dhoti and having blue skin.

>He also said that controlling Krishna is the opposite of how things work in the Hindu faith, where followers put their destinies into the hands of their deities, not the other way around.

>Finally, it’s worth mentioning that Zed reaffirmed Hindus pledge to free speech, however they wish faith and things considered sacred would be handled more sensitively in video games.

http://nichegamer.com/2016/02/03/hindus-are-pissed-that-krishna-is-in-shin-megami-tensei-iv-final/

Like I said, I dont feel offended with the portrayals of the various, spirits, demons, monsters etc in this game, at least 95% of all entities in the game are great representations. It was impressive to see native-american spirits and demons in the game as well.

Though I can understand his quarrel, but then again Krishna is said to take many forms. He's even said to have appeared as a young, brown-skinned boy in the Bhagavad Gita. So when this Zed guy said "KRISHNA NEEDS TO BE BLUE AND WEARING HIS PERSONAL HAT" it contradicts his own beliefs because hes deciding how krishna should look.

Hes got it all wrong, Krishna doesnt have to look how he wants to, Krishna is krishna with infinite forms. The guy is ignoring his own beliefs for his own personal agenda, it isnt right.

As a Buddhist, should I be mad at the portrayal of the Maitreya Buddha described as a demon in the game? Or that the other Buddhist deities are controllable?

The answer should be no, it is a video game, trying to tell a story, for me to denounce it would be unjust to the creators.

>>143906482

I doubt it. Early jews probably weren't into futa.

So hey is this thread for discussion of SMT or is this a thread basically for cucks to blog about whatever the fuck homosexuality means to them?

>>143907265
No you didn't, all you did was plug your ears and point me to a formal definition. If a boy sees someone he perceives as another boy and is attracted to him, it's gay. It's not a full homosexual relationship or anything, but it is gay longing.

>>143908149
If you had read the definitions you'd know that gay longing requires both to have the same sex.

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Why do I have to be level 80 to get Beelzebub? How many hours of grinding will it take for me to go up 10 levels to fuse him? Is there an item I can use that increases EXP, or am I forced to use attract waters?

>>143908863
And if one guy thinks the other is the same sex, then it's gay for him. It doesn't magically become not gay if one is secretly a girl, one boy is still attracted to someone he thinks is a boy.

>>143907503
They sure were into sucking baby dicks tho

>>143908949
He's a big fly

>>143909556
>It doesn't magically become not gay if one is secretly a girl, one boy is still attracted to someone he thinks is a boy.
It does since both have a different sex. How long do you want to continue this?

>>143909805
If person A is convinced person B is of the same sex and is still attracted to them, it's gay. Person B's actual gender doesn't matter, if person A perceives them as the same and is still attracted to them it's gay. It's simple.

For example, a lesbian being attracted to a feminine boy without knowing his true gender is gay attraction.

>>143910119
No.>>143906127

>>143910119
>>143910295
Would the two of you just stop arguing over a side character from a game that isn't even liked that much on this general.

>>143910295
Pointing me to a dictionary definition doesn't help because the scenario of someone mistaking another's gender and being attracted to them is so uncommon it's not worth nothing. If all you can do is point me at a dictionary you're basically conceding you have nothing constructive to add.

Try to tell me why it's not gay in your own words. It's someone being attracted to someone else they believe is of the same gender. Sounds pretty gay to me.

>>143910567
>If all you can do is point me at a dictionary you're basically conceding you have nothing constructive to add.
You don't know the meaning of the word homosexuality. What else can I do besides linking you to the definition?

>Try to tell me why it's not gay in your own words. It's someone being attracted to someone else they believe is of the same gender. Sounds pretty gay to me.
Already did that too. Read my posts before the definition.

>>143910780
It's not gay if you enact your attraction and have sex or whatever, but being attracted to someone from afar when as far as you know they're the same gender as you is gay.

Under your definition, a guy being attracted to a girl who is actually a boy is straight. That's not correct.

>>143911126
Just fucking ignore him you fucking retard

STOP BEING SO FUCKING RETARDED

>>143911126
oh wait, I meant to say your definition means a guy being attracted to a girl who's actually a boy is gay

that's not right

>>143911126
> but being attracted to someone from afar when as far as you know they're the same gender as you is gay.
>Jesus, are you even reading my posts. His thoughts are irrelevant. If he felt attracted to a real male and Naoto, he would have been bi. He can't be gay as long as he feels attracted to Naoto.

>Under your definition, a guy being attracted to a girl who is actually a boy is straight.
>Again reality is what matters, not your thoughts/beliefs.

>>143911648
Kanji can be bi. He exhibits both gay and straight tendencies.

And actually now I'm curious, if a boy is attracted to a girl who is secretly a boy, would you call this straight or gay? And how come?

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>>143911606
>a guy being attracted to a girl who's actually a boy is gay
>that's not right

What the fuck are you even talking about.

>>143911915
I mean, seeing a hot chick and being attracted to her is straight as long as you don't know she's actually a guy.

>this thread
>THIS FUCKING THREAD
>LITERALLY TWO FUCKING PEOPLE SPAMMING 10000 POSTS THAT SAY
>NO YOURE WRONG, NO IM RIGHT, NO YOURE WRONG NO IM RIGHT, NO YOURE WRONG
Fucking kill yourselves

>>143912012
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

>>143911823
>Kanji can be bi.
Yes, he can. We don't know though because he hasn't expressed an attraction towards a male

>He exhibits both gay and straight tendencies.
What are those tendencies?

>And actually now I'm curious, if a boy is attracted to a girl who is secretly a boy, would you call this straight or gay? And how come?
That's gay because of the fact that the target of attraction has a dick and per definition attraction towards a person with the same sex is homosexual. I can write this another thousand times if you want.
If the guy stops feeling attracted after finding out the truth (even though I don't think misunderstandings like this actually can happen, 3DPD traps are a myth) it's clear that his sexual orientation is hetero, doesn't change the fact that his attraction was gay though.

>>143912112
Calm down, friend. It should be over now.

>>143912516
I disagree with your interpretation. If there's an attraction based on person B's presumed gender, it should be treated as if they were actually that gender until person A knows otherwise. Person A thinks they're the same sex, thus person A is exhibiting homosexual desires until they know. I can write this a thousand more times too.

Are you telling me if a boy who is secretly a girl falls in love with a girl who's secretly a boy, it's straight? Even if they fall in love with each other? Or a gay guy being attracted to a boy who's secretly a girl is straight? You're not looking at the big picture.

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>>143907345
I just can't wait to beat the shit out of that Buddha Pepe.

>>143913052
>>Are you telling me if a boy who is secretly a girl falls in love with a girl who's secretly a boy, it's straight?
Yes, I am and the definition of heterosexuality does too.

> Or a gay guy being attracted to a boy who's secretly a girl is straight?
Read my posts. If he's a gay guy his sexual orientation is homo and he should stop feeling attracted to her once he finds out she has a cunt, if he doesn't he's either bi or straight. The attraction itself is straight, obviously.

>>143913404
That doesn't sound right to me. A boy being attracted to someone he thinks is a boy is gay and you're not going to convince me otherwise.

>>143913651
Glad we can stop now.

>>143913732
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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>>143913732
>>143913803
>And so it ends as it began, as fucking nothing...

>>143913732
>>143913803
Now that this pathetic hoedown is over, we can get back to some meaningful discussion.

So, /smtg/, which demon wud u fug?

>>143914170
hathor

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>>143914170
>which demon wud u fug
STUPID SEXY ONIS

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>>143914170
I want the friendship of her thighs.

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>>143914170
Parvati and Cu Chulainn.

>>143914168
Are you disappointed?

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>>143914548
>Cu Chulain
SWEET BABY ON PORK RIBS
I WANT TO kiss him on his cheek and have that chu~ squiggle

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>>143914170

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>>143914865
If only.

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>>143906298
Talk him into joining my party. If he refuses, I will punch him in the fucking face.

>>143907994
The former for people who enjoy videogames, the latter for /pg/ rejects

>>143915065
>tfw you will never be carried by cu chulainn
why even live

>>143915876
There seem to be a lot people here who enjoy videogames. Look at all the discussion.

>>143916284
But which demon wud u fug asshole

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>>143914170
Ame no Uzume

>>143916357
Already answered, dickface.

>>143916478
Oh ok
Wanna play Devil Summoner with me

>>143916569
Already played that. Or do you mean for real?
If so, we need to get /g/ and /x/ involved.

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Anyone have any tips or success story on fusing to get Guan Yu?

>>143917052
In which game

>>143916692
Yeah, for real, we're starting a Devil Summoning club

>>143917052
Make him return Jing Province.

>>143917052
>>143917159
Oops forgot to mention that

SMT iv to be precise

>>143916401
Same.

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>>143914170

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>entire race of demons only available through fusion accident

What the fuck

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>>143918417

>>143918685
>they have some of the coolest designs
GODDAMNIT

>>143914548
I WANT TO HOLD HANDS WITH HIM
AND I DONT CARE WHO KNOWS IT

>>143916274
You live to fantasize about him.
If you die, his memory within you dies as well.

Live, non. Live for him

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do you guys think that some time in the fututre smt will have creepypasta based demons, and if they appear witch one you would like to see
>pic related

People were saying smt x FE was the death of smt and after this thread I wish they were right

>>143923548
Isn't there a demon based on a 1970's monster book? I forget his name

If Im correct, then a creepypasta monster isnt out of the question.
I just hope its not Slenderman, theres so many better monsters out there in creepy-pasta

>>143923548
SCP containment personnel as enemies
including actual SCPs is too much to ask and it'd be dumb, but hinting that it exists is enough of a reference

>>143924438
Ew no, the scp stuff is dumb as hell

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>>143924318
it's the best demon you're talking about

>>143918685
Which race?

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>>143923548

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>400,000 FOR A FUCKING GUN

>>143925442
SMTIV?

>switch to easy mode
>grind with the macca DLC

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>>143924318
You mean Aerophant? It's based on a Spanish fictional bestiary from 1987.

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>>143924318
>>143923548
Whoops never mind.
Apparently the game sources "The Monster is That Is History" by David Der-Wei Wang (pub. 2004)
The demon I was referring to was Taowu.
Heres the ingame bio
>According to the book "The Monster That is History" by David Der-wei Wang, the Taowu is a monster of Ancient China that, while skillful in divination and able to see the past and the future, is fierce and violent. The Taowu is said to appear with "a human face, a tiger's feet, a pig's feet and a tail 18 feet long". It is said to be thoroughly stubborn that it would refuse to back down from a fight. Known as one of the Si-xiong (4 Calamities) in ancient Chinese lore along with Tao Tie, Hun Dun and Qiong Qi; it represents ignorance, misguiding man through its divination, throwing him off course of enlightenment while appeasing materialistic, unvirtuous and shallow desires.

I thought it was from the actual book, but its actually from Chinese lore.

>>143924542
Not what I was referring to but I can understand the Mothman is fuckin cool. It wasnt what I'd imagine the Mothman to look like, but hes cute!

THough in relation to the previous post, I cant find any evidence for fictitious demons based on a fictional writing.

It seems most demons are based on gods,demons, spirits and a few historical people like Jack the Ripper or Lámh Dhearg.

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>>143925774
I stand corrected. >>143925720

SMT x Castlevania

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>>143925774
as fictition based demon we have alice

>>143926498
>Tyrant Dracula
>Hellfire
>Soul Steal
>Demonic Megidolaon

>>143925774
>THough in relation to the previous post, I cant find any evidence for fictitious demons based on a fictional writing.
Oberon and Titania are from a Shakespeare play

>>143926498
so is alucard a devil children ?

>>143925774
Audrey, Chris the Car and Betelgeuse from Shin Megami Tensei II. Probably more.

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>>143926879
>>143926516
Yea I had forgotten about them before I wrote that.
I accept my mistake here >>143925720
>>143925983

I was trying so hard to think of the fictional demons that I couldnt think of any. My bad

>>143923548
>the rake
BEGONE FOUL BEAST

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>>143914170
>nothing lewd involving Cleopatra
I must not be looking in the right places

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>majority of posts in this thread

Why isn't kaneko involved in mainline anymore?

>>143930335
fug off homosexual

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>>143930613
What's the matter, anon. SCARED OF A LITTLE DICK?

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>>143930472
He rejected too many gods

>>143930920
That's not little

>>143930920
No else I'd be afraid of my gigantic dong

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Can we all stop shitposting and just post cute SMT girls?

POSTING BEST GIRL

>>143930717
Golden pops sure loves to use that instant kill attack.

>>143931276
that doesn't look like Jonathan

>>143931364
Those Alien niggers were worse

give me pics that i could put on a t shirt.

also does anyone have a screenshot of "try not to feel too bad"???

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>>143933065

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>>143933065

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>>143935000

>>143933438
>>143934705
>>143935000
Actually, those aren't that good for t shirt designs. I'd have to do too much editing

>>143930335

SHUT THE FUCK UP LUCIFER YOU COCKTEASIN' BASTARD

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>>143935350
What's the matter, anon?

>>143914170
The Moirae sisters.

>>143935684

You and your cross dressing ways Louisa Ferre/Louise Cyphre!

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>>143936882
Agreed, Lucifer isnt even that good looking either
Anon-kun, why don't you worship me and follow Hinduism instead?

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>>143936882
Ignore them anon! Worship me! I-I know im wrapped in bandages but still! Pick me!

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You wouldnt mind if my looks are a bit young, would you, anon?

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>>143936882
Love me as much as I love myself, anon.

I totally didn't know this existed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwSZDXr5LU

>>143933065
my man, I was thinking of making a shirt out of that screenshot back a year or so ago when I was more fit, less depressive ass, and could pull it off better.

I'll see if I can find the pic soon, but it may be worth it to just play through the first 30 minutes or whatever of the game on fast forward to get it for yourself. was also considering MC's room with the ">Try not to let any demons possess you in your sleep" or whatever as well.

>>143939009
It's been posted a few times but I love it.

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>>143930284
Are there even lewds of her?

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>>143935684
>>143937102
>>143938434
>>143938615
>>143938790

>>143930284
shit even a couple of her snakes want to dig into her ass

>>143930284
>nothing lewd involving Cleopatra
>I must not be looking in the right places
Indeed.

Git gud.

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>>143939343
I'm pretty sure there are some out there

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>>143942583
>>143930284
>cleopatra
>bleach-white skin

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>Raidou game with two major arcs
>first arc follows up from Raidou 2, go around Taisho Era Japan
>second arc has Raidou flung into the future a la Soul Hackers 3DS's extra dungeon
>he along with the SH cast gets shit done

>>143942720
We were queens and shit

>>143942720
Cleopatra wasn't Egyptian she was from Macedonia

Are there any PS1 or PSP games with a similar lowpoly aesthetic to P1 and P2?

>>143942726

I'd play the shit out of that

>>143943783
The 2D sprites on low-poly background aesthetic from P2 was pretty popular on the PS1 - I can think of Grandia, Breath of Fire 3/4, FF Tactics and DQ7 (also the DQ4/5/6 remakes on DS) just off the top of my head.

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>>143943180
So?

What ever happened to quantum devil saga 2?

>>143944142
Thanks. I've been meaning to try out DQ for a while now since I really dig Toriyama's art.

>>143942583


Poor Alice, she doesn't need big tits. How else can I give my daughterfu big hugs?

>>143943180
>implying ancient macedonians were ultra-bleach oxy clean white
I dont know if you know this anon, but the whitest people are in the north
brown and brownish people are in the middle
and the darkest happen to be in the south

She wasnt black, but she sure as hell was not how theyre portraying her as pure-white/blond hair

>>143944337
DQ7 is probably a bad place to get into it since it's ridiculously long (read: padded) not considered one of the more exemplary entries in the series. I'd start with 4 on DS instead (there's also a PS1 port that I believe the DS version is based off of that has a fan translation).

>>143944606
Thanks again. That's good to know.

>>143944526
>>143943180
>>143942720
Either way, she isn't really Cleopatra the historical woman as much as the human impression of what Cleopatra was, and since she was supposed to be the most beautiful woman in the world, and all agricultural societies perceived pale skin as beautiful, she would be imagined as very pale.

If anyone actually answer honestly in every SMT you will always end up in Law

>>143947473
Not true.

>>143947708
You are not honest

>>143947473
Nah I got Neutral in 4

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>>143947473
Not true.

>>143944296
>woman getting tanned from war
Yeah anon go back to realhistoryww

>>143947473

Eh possibly. I'd say there's a fair chance of being Neutral still.

>>143944329
The second book is in the editing stage with the publisher as of may 23 according to its translator.

Medusa is so ugly in IV

>>143950327
Funny enough, I was just thinking that exact same thing a moment ago, even thought of posting the image here and seeing the reactions.

>>143950475
Final seems to "fix" her

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>native american demon
>porcelain white
problematic tensei

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>>143950585
FINAL RELEASE DATE WHEN?

>>143950895
Good. White girls are the best.

>>143949094

And here I started to think we'd get the If translation before the 2nd book was ever released.

>>143950327
>>143950475

Eh I'd still hit pre-Final Medusa.

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>>143950895
It's okay because she has tribal tats

>>143950903
September

>>143950971
>assless albino monkeys are the best
Slow down there, Hitler

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>check up Final
>you can rearrange your skill list

Looks like i am not the only one who want this
Autism is a drug

>>143951576
>>>/trash/

>>143951353
Shit seriously? That makes me moist

>>143950585
We exchanged better art for a shittier pose. I dunno.

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I'm playing nocturne for the first time, did I mess up by dumping all my points into St and Vi, with the occasional point into Ag. Everyone tells me not to grind, but how am I supposed to fuse good stuff without doing that? At least this is better with the fusion pacing than SMT 1.

>>143952817
Str build is recommended
>Everyone tells me not to grind, but how am I supposed to fuse good stuff without doing that?
fuse at your level it'll do, never bother grinding to be able to fuse something unless it's only a level or two
get the monk fiend guy, he's useful the whole game through as a buffer/healer

turn based Raidou as MC game when?