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>>143692106
Biggest Fan edition
>What is this?
A new FPS-MOBA from Gearbox. It's Borderlands without the memes, and has MNC-style PvP game modes.
>Should I buy it?
It's fun. You can grab it for $30 on keysites. It's also on sale on Amazon for $40 bucks.
>Official Website
https://battleborn.com/
>Character and Helix Info
http://mentalmars.com/battleborn/characters/
>Unlockable Audio Lore
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-XsFNO4RD1x6-WK_Uf6gW5Rs-51Pr-Ho
>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vgbattleborn
>Discord
https://discord.gg/0xVj0DIkVdQQkr1I
>Toaster Build
http://pastebin.com/Tcq57Vyr
Skill Overview for Alani.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYZYs2Nm3q4 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
First for best game
DEAD
GAME
JUST
MY
Reminder
>>143839348
>not 'I'm the Root of all evil' skin
Homo
Best waifu coming through
>>143839348
I want ISIC to make Phoebe cry.
Anyone know how this works with multi target hits? Thorn's Blight for instance. If it hits 5 guys and does 100 dmg at tick, would they end up all taking 75 extra damage, or only 15 extra damage? Or does it just not work on multi/ground target skills like that?
>>143839783
not sure but I think usually it only procs based off the main hit.
This haughty bitch comes up to you and laughs at you as she sips her hot tea.
What do?
>>143839783
This shit is broken as fuck on Ambra.
Procs off sunspots, procs off heat wave, just constant bleed off from DoT skills that already hit multiple targets.
>>143841103
Beg her to teach me the ways of Sword Puppetry
>>143841380
What's in your bank account?
>>143841103
Eat shit Ms Hemsworth. ;)
>16 posts
>page 9
WeeeeeeWWWWWWeeeeee
>>143844246
aaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeiioouuuuuuuuu and sometimes Y.
Maybe tomorrow boys.
Can't have that
You know if the general dies again, i want you to know that i love you all.
Except Steve. Fuck that guy.
Where is everyone?why did it take so long for someone to make a new thread ? Don't tell me this games already dead on vg .
>>143848857
it's 1am and i have work in the morning
>>143848702
>>143848857
Mobas can burn people out and I don't think the que times are helping especially when Overmeme just came out >>143849201
I thought there was a holiday tomorrow
>>143849750
i'm in canadia, our holiday was last week
>>143839783
>that activation cost
why even bother
>>143839348
I can't believe someone saved and reposted this. Thank you anon, I love you <3
Any word on when ranked play is going to take effect or if matchmaking is going to be improved? Getting paired against a team of level 100's while on a team of single digit levels really shouldn't be a thing.
>>143839783
That sounds like it would be good for Kleese black holes
Be advised: stretching is important
post em
>>143856223
Mine
Be advised: If you're a Marquis, you're a shit
>>143856765
Alani will be fixed next week. Either way, her water shit is annoying.
Why is this allowed? What the fuck were they thinking? This isn't stylized, this is a fucking abomination.
>>143857060
good
that fucking bind is so dumb
getting 100-0'd by just alani from full hp all because she hits you with one skill
>>143857132
it's almost like he's meant to be an abomination
>only 40 posts in 6 hours
holy shit
>>143857132
they were definitely going to a heavy deal
>>143857250
>no no no this design is shit ON PURPOSE
>>143857416
>"i havent played the game stop OPRESSING ME"
>>143857487
Why would I start playing a game that looks so ugly it actively drives me away from itself?
>>143857529
>>143857529
That's just like, your opinion man
>>143857132
Why is this allowed? What the fuck were they thinking? This isn't stylized, this is a fucking abomination.
>>143857645
this is a battleborn general not a shill thread
>>143857645
I agree. Good thing I'm not giving Blizzard 40 dollars ever again after Diablow 3. Now please quit projecting
>>143857645
it's ok bro, we ALL bought the wrong game here. it will be over soon
>>143857645
Did they rip pudge's hook straight out of dota because theyre bitter towards valve or what?
>>143857749
>Valve made the original Dota
what are you, 12?
monday night combat was more fun than this and look how fast that died
ATTENTION ALL UNITS, FEMINISM IS AWESOME
>>143857998
>>143857891
>>143857726
Can you please stop pouring salt into the wound?
>>143857813
Are you retarded?
>>143857891
Was it really that much more fun?
>>143858471
the first one, yes. in my opinion.
super monday night combat was ass, though.
>>143858471
I just don't remember having this much fun in a while, I guess.
>>143856223
>>143858471
MNC = god tier game
SMNC = horrid dogshit with no balance, shit awful devs, and a community that actively drove new players away while being in the 100s
WHOOOO
AWAY MISSION!
>>143858653
I cringe at that form.
>>143862568
Nova is the best waifu
>>143856223
>>143839726
She is easily second best, love me some small tits
>>143852923
Hahaha, don't make this weird
Mellka what an unskilled fuck character that needs to get carried early game and then becomes an unkillable fuck due to the Eldrid gear bullshit.
God damn what i am so mad. We won against her but such a faggot hero.
>>143852295
>Can't manage to get 1800 shards
In capture, sure, but in meltdown and incursion, I can get a 4500 cost build completed by 8 minutes in. Shards are easy to come by. Maybe you're just bad.
Alani gets CC'd:
>HMM HMM HMMM HMM HMM
What did she mean by this?
>Matched against a five man stack who played an all eldrid team (Kelvin, Alani, Miko, Boldur, Mellka)
>My team had no parties
>We still won
How bad do you have to be to have literally every advantage in the game on your side and still lose?
>>143870557
why would you take boldur over thorn tho
>>143871580
Isn't the all Eldrid team his lore challenge?
>>143871580
Because Boldur contributes more to the team than Thorn
>>143869248
Glad I never have to play with you, you're starving your team for shards and experience at a crucial part of the game.
>>143871726
>This what manlets actually believe
this game fuckin SUCKS
>>143872838
i disagree
>>143871939
I'm glad I dont have to play with shitters either. I've won at least 75% of my games. There's plenty of shards to go around, idiot. You know team mates get 20% of the shards you pick up? It's in everyones best interest for shards to get collected as soon as possible so they respawn sooner. Overall more shards.
>>143874972
I'm not saying leave shards on the ground, and yes of course I know everybody else gets 20% of the shards, but you're fucking gobbling 4500 of those up when they could be spent by yourself and your teammates early on for buildables and minions so you can get LEVEL ADVANTAGE, which is better than your dumb fucking overcosted gear build.
>>143875137
Oh, is that why I win most of my games? Buildables are not worth it unless you've got a bunch of extra shards. They die too easy and do basically nothing unless the enemy team is stupid. Trading hundreds of shards for the same amount of exp you can get from clearing a merc camp is a waste. Plus, it feeds enemies exp for killing them, as they're laughably easy to kill. Get your gear, buy super minions, then buy crappy buildings.
>>143875137
>>143874972
Girls, shut the fuck up. Or maybe learn the middle ground? Legendary + free shard item with a good blue or green.
Or never play with each other, cause your bitch fight is dumb af
>>143875881
I lol'd
Played a game with an Anon bro last night. None of played that well besides our Caldy, but 'twas fun. Do we have GT paste bin for the different platforms?
>>143870557
>played vs 3 cripples
>won
gee whiz I wonder how
Post 'em bitches
Is the Algorithim just all around the best match for grinding? Isics plasma dash 250 minions, Whiskey's quick melee challenge, what else?
>>143876920
>>143877404
I would guess the Renegade if you need to kill Thrall, probably Void's Edge for Varelsi.
>>143876920
>>143856223
>>143878384
ofc rath is funner you can turn your brain off while playing
>finally got a Kelvin skin
1 down, 2 to go. Plus one more taunt.
>>143876920
I can't imagine playing that many story missions.
>teammate picks Toby
Another 4v5 incoming.
>>143881634
what is toby even supposed to do other than being a safemode marquis
>>143882005
A Marquis that can't kill shit
>>143882005
Toby is good, but he suffers the composition death knell of being more of a generalist. He has more flexibility in his growth, allowing him to adapt his role. He's not as good a sniper, but he's tougher, offers a hard control option, better at lane clearing, more mobility, and never having to worry about reloading is nice (also allows more flexibility in gear loadout if you're into that sort of thing).
>>143883794
Also he is a big fucking target which is usually a death mark in this game especially since he is really not that tanky like say Montana.
Anyone know if Boombots count as minions for El Dragón's lore challenge?
Grinding out on Geoff's endless spawns and I want to know if I should be saving my splash for the following wave, as it alternates minions > boombots > minions
>mfw I try Deande
holy fucking shit
The amount of damage she can push out in PvP is insane
>>143886890
I've never seen a Deande do good, and even if she manages to land her ult, it seems to do fuckall.
I usually play Kleese and I can just stay near my rifts and tase the bitch if she tries anything.
>>143886138
>moba shooter game
>lore
>>143887431
The ult is a crowd control to setup kills for the team.
Or a 1v1 me faggot you won't button
>>143862663
rath pls go
>>143876920
>>143876920
I'm cool.
>>143892805
no you're a doof
>>143892805
hooded skeleton is that you
>>143876920
Why yes I am the resident Boldur fanatic.
>>143891034
Mom?
Why aren't there more drawfags?
I appreciate our resident furfag making pics of best bird but come on.
Where's the rest of the smut?
>>143899297
Fuck that where is the players. I spend more time on this board shitposting while in queue than playing.
Who the fuck keeps making Battleborn threads on /v/. It's been nearly a month, stop bullying me.
It's like it got worse after Overwatch came out.
Who has the easiest lore challenges, do you think?
>>143900758
I think Marquis and Orendi has some easy ones
>>143900758
Montana probably.
>>143900758
Orendi and Ambra. No PVP challenges, no challenges that require people to pick certain characters.
Only downside is that Ambra is grindy and Orendi requires you to play 10 matches.
>>143902329
This. The only tricky one with Orendi is the pushing 20 enemies into Shadowfire but once you get the timing down, you can knock it out quickly.
>>143902887
I found this easy in PvE once I started doing that six shadowfire pillar chain since you'll cast two and use nullify to cast two more
Hey it's a fun game but when will it be out from early access?
>>143904346
haha epic dude lmao
Why is Ghalt the only black guy in the entire roster?
>>143904769
because you gotta pander to SJWs nowadays so they had to put in a black guy
>>143904769
Because humans are the only species to have such a degenerate race
>>143904769
>one black guy
>only one purple lady
>only one robot granny
>only one androgynous teen
>only one psychopath
WHY DOESNT THIS GAME PANDER TO ME MOOOOOORE?
>>143904769
The LLC has strict anti-hobo policies, and how many rich black people do you know?
>>143905919
>two clone warriors
OPPRESSION
>>143904769
Boldur is the biggest nigger in the game tho.
>>143905919
>a black guy
>elves
>a walking tree stump
>an ice golem
>a mushroom
>a genocidel German Butler
>a fish
>birds
>an early teenaged girl with a pet monster
>a one eyed Latina space pirate
>a psychotic four armed alien witch
>clones
>a masked Mexican wrestler
>ISIC
DIVERSE
I
V
E
R
S
E
>>143904769
Mellka's a brown elf, unless you specifically wanted more black men
>>143904769
Reyna is blackspanic or something.
>>143904346
When they can finally manage to somewhat balance the heros.
>>143906926
Why is mellka the only attractive character in the entire game? Every other hero is wierdly proportioned or just looks plain dull, but mellka looks well balanced and has decent proportions
>Muffled WE NEED A HEALER shouting in the distance
>Pick ISIC
>Incoherent rage
I love my job ;D
>>143907316
>mellka
>attractive
>>143907316
You could be playing a game with decent waifus (and husbandos if that's your thing) right now...
>>143888134
I'm guessing you don't have any Character specific gear than.
>>143907375
>enemies being cocky against you early
>weather it out until level 4
>force feed the entire enemy team their insides
Is there a better feel?
>>143907316
>>143907316
Because you have shit taste
>>143907593
You do know a huge majority of us already play Overwatch, right?
>>143904769
>1 black guy
>1 ambiguously dark human
>1 ambiguously not-quite-white human
>1 ambiguously dark elf
>1 grey-ish dwarf
>6 white people
>1 purple person
>2 clones of an elder race (purple)
>1 vampire
>1 <enemy race>
>1 penguin
>2 robots
>1 screaming eagle
>1 alien eats things shapeshifter witch
>1 space ifreet
>an arbitrary number of mushroom guy
>1 golem
>1 of whatever Caldarius actually is
>>143907951
>huge majority
>us
thanks you le /btbg/ spokesman !!
>>143906926
Isn't Reyna dark-skinned too?
>>143907316
Why is Thorn so underrated?
Also, there's Pheobe, Galilea, and Ambra who I'd love to lick the behinds of.
>>143907951
wtf you're only allowed to play one.
>>143907593
I play Overwatch already, but I mostly do play BB.
DIFFERENT GAMES
>>143888134
Lore is part of Battleborn. If you don't like it then just ignore it or move on.
>>143908202
Expansion pack edition:
>1 fish
>1 snake
>AI #3
>space empress
>penguin #2
>>143908703
Is it really Lenore who is being added though? One of the voices in the prologue's information panels is another female that isn't Ambra or Deande.
>>143908703
>>space empress
Dont tease me
>>143908202
Is Ambra a vampire?
>>143907729
>feed the enemy team
sounds about right
>>143876920
I took a long Pheobe break and ended up doing really bad as her last night.
Thorn is bae tho
Aimbotting is getting out of control. Early Dirty Bomb level of not giving a fuck is in order. Like this last german guy didn't even try to hide it. Continues firing with perfect precison under blind in an open area.
GBX should have just stayed with PvE games.
>>143909405
i dunno what she is but i like it
>Matchmaking fuck itself for 30 mins.
>Get mached with a lvl 3 a lvl 7 and two level 50ish guys
>Enemy team is a full level 100 premade
Nah fuck this shit. Alt+f4. Uninstall. Go and fuck your dead ass game GBX. I made a huge fucking mistake buying this piece of shit.
>>143914154
Ranked will come as more players do. You aren't doing anything to help by just quiting like that. Consider being pitted against a strong team good practice, I know I do.
>>143912027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvup_D4Vzf8
I hope they will use a VAC like secured PvP mode. If not, the game PvP mode is dead.
to beat a already dead horse
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oK8UTRgvJU
vid explains Battleborn's biggest problem and what Overwatch got right
>>143915679
>tfw i like bb's aesthetic
>>143915679
After you are over 18. you will understand the charm of Battleborn
>>143915679
But Battleborn is aesthetically and stylistically uniform. What's the point you're trying to make?
>>143875540
The only buildables worth getting is shit like the regen one, the accelerator and minions. Turrets are only good if you need them on the spot like you are fighting in mid and you run to the turret to provide you with extra damage and distractions.
Usually there is like an order of who should be the guy who gets xp from buying shit (the shard bitch), the ones who last hit minions for creeps and thrall camps killers. Not saying they are relegated to one role but usually they havea man emphasis one one of those 3
>>143916756
They're also good if you want that little XP boost desu
>>143916756
>playing Incursion
>>143915679
Eh, I'd disagree. While the characters themselves definitely look a bit jarring standing side by side, the design and art direction of Battleborn is pretty good in my opinion. Its very bright and vibrant and theres a lot of little details in the game that help to give it life and personality.
And thats also a detractor to the game as well, unfortunately. In a teamfight it can be very difficult to pin down what exactly is happening on screen with so many explosions, particle effects, and ground effects on screen. This bleeds into the world of streaming and lets plays of the game as well- with so much going on its difficult for the viewer to comprehend what is happening, and with so many effects happening the average Battleborn stream is a blurry mess due to the low bitrate of a lot of streaming services.
>>143916568
>But Battleborn is aesthetically and stylistically uniform
as in, every character is just as ugly as the next?
>$60 for a multiplayer only game that averages 100 players at a time
Phoebe x Caldarius OTP
>Be Isic.
>Attickus attacks Reyna
>She backs into the corner and I charge up to her
>We both proceed to melee her into a corner she can't escape like schoolyard bullies because of collision and me quick meleeing her into the air non stop with no hope of escaping.
>>143918101
>calling this ugly
plz stop parroting /v/ memes in this general
>>143921275
>Caldy is my main
>Phoebe is easily top three, if not two
I'm ok with this
>>143926067
Have you played The Renegade with a Phoebe on the team? She's a technophile through and through.
>>143923543
Phoebe is ugly, anon. They all are. Stop posting the fanart, she has gaunt cheeks and old woman lines in the game.
>>143929542
Proof.
>>143929542
>he doesnt like milfs
>>143926475
I haven't, I may have to go solo it as her now
>>143929542
Rude
I like how Attikus counts towards lore challenges that involve killing Thralls.
>>143909405
If she was, she wouldn't have sun powers.
>>143934518
She's a space vampire so it's okay.
>>143916568
People see the characters and assume they're all from the same neighborhood or some shit, instead of being from different factions that span across a galaxy.
>>143937925
>a galaxy
Try the universe.
>>143937925
And even then heros in the same faction still look similar to one another and have matching color schemes.
>>143930073
>>143938836
still hot
>>143904769
Stfu you sjw faggot
>all of Attikus's skins make the arm less reflective
Disgusting.
how to tell if someone is aim botting?
>750 minions down, 250 to go
Thank god for Geoff and his little miracles.
>>143943448
Blind them.
If they still go through the blind, they're aimbotting.
They really need to make some prefixes exclusive to each other.
>running around as orendi
>hear her footsteps and bracelets jingling
>also hear deep panting
>the panting is there even while she's talking
>start noticing it even when i'm standing next to another orendi
is orendi hiding another mouth somewhere on her body
>>143947534
Do you really think she's got a pussy down there?
>>143947534
aren't Orendi's hands mouths?
>>143950430
>handjobs and blowjobs at once
Fffffffffffffuck yes
Decided to try out Atticus, queued up for a few story missions to try him out. Only finished one out of five games and spent an embarrassing amount of time waiting for a rez. He feels squishy as hell for being a brawler style character, even picked up all of his regen abilities to try and survive, no dice. Does he get more mutations to make him tougher or do I just need a pocket healer to be effective?
>>143947067
you realize that just means you take more damage right? it doesn't negate the damage boost
>>143950864
Get paired up with a miko
>>143950864
>>143951898
Miko main here, join the steam group and hit me up (Balot) if you need a healer to run missions with if you want to learn him. Attikus is vicious late game; him and El Dragon are similar. both need a healer early game though unless youre very cautious. every good Attikus ive played with is an early game hit-n-run minion killer and a late game ruthless player killer.
>>143953213
What Steam group?
>>143943448
If they're playing a disgustingly good Marquis and you check their steam profile only to see they have multiple VAC bans on record... draw your own conclusions.
Did the servers crap out? Started Saboteur and the first defense point would not start up, had to suicide out.
>>143958938
Haven't noticed anything over here
>>143907573
they're not wrong
The sale didn't work. Fuck.
>>143965180
Sigh... It was a nice idea, but I think we'll done pretty soon.
>>143965180
>>143965920
I think the base that'll stick with BB has already been made. Things can only get better.
>>143965981
But what can GBX do to drum up interest?I don't think F2P will even save this game
>>143966086
They have to do quite a few things.
1. Fix the game's performance. The shitty perf makes the game feel really bad. Inputs are missed or stick, mouse lag, etc, and the framerate is jumping about all over the place.
2. Make something that teaches players how to play Incursion and Meltdown. New players are completely clueless and get wrecked by experienced ones.
3. Fix matchmaking, so there're less one-sided games, which drives people away from the competitive modes.
4. Either reduce the grind significantly, or embrace it and make competitive free-to-play. Sell the the campaign for $30 or something. What the game needs is more players.
5. Fix the visual clutter and the clunky UI. There are too many QoL features to list but Gearbox needs to hit all the major ones.
Then advertise the massive patches this needs as a reboot of the game.
>>143966709
>What the game needs is more players.
Not if they are retards. A community like Overwatch is cancer.
It is hard to have a huge community which doesn't destroys itself.
>>143966709
>1. Fix the game's performance. The shitty perf makes the game feel really bad. Inputs are missed or stick, mouse lag, etc, and the framerate is jumping about all over the place.
I've had this issue with all the Borderlands games to the point where I've gotten used to it. Is it even something they can fix?
2. Make something that teaches players how to play Incursion and Meltdown. New players are completely clueless and get wrecked by experienced ones.
Yeah they should have some tutorials, or work with YTers or something. The games aren't that complicated, people are just stupid
3. Fix matchmaking, so there're less one-sided games, which drives people away from the competitive modes.
Yeah... Fingers crossed on that
4. Either reduce the grind significantly, or embrace it and make competitive free-to-play. Sell the the campaign for $30 or something. What the game needs is more players.
5. Fix the visual clutter and the clunky UI. There are too many QoL features to list but Gearbox needs to hit all the major ones.
The last two are the real questions. They should take this as a learning experience, revamp and repackage the game and then have multi available separately like the CoD MP start pack?At the end of they day they fucked up
>>143967140
I don't care if they are mouthbreathing subhumans or not as long as there enough warm bodies so matchmaking actually works.
>>143967367
I'll be happy if we get more drafags. I need more quadruple handjobs.
>>143965180
>a new ""free"" hero is released
>people who are bored of the game give it another chance and come back
>lol either buy the season pass or grind 48000 credits to unlock her goy!
>>143967367
Or they could just make a a new PvP mode as a F2P modell.
Then they would have a
-F2P PvP without gear or any rewards
-Buy2Play PvP as it is now
-Buy2Play PvE as it is now
If the F2P community is cancer, you could just change as a buyer to the B2P PvP.
But if you want to find a fast PvP match (just for fun) you could play the F2P PvP mode.
>>143943448
-Keeps shooting you with 100% accuracy under blind
-"Snaps" on targets. Like there is no fluid aim movement.
-Instantly starts shooting as soon as you show up from a random cover
-Unusually high damage output due to always hitting crits
-Obviously high kill death ratio.
-Plays hitscan character (Most of the time it's Marquis but i've seen an aimbotting OM the other day)
>>143938836
All I see are defined cheekbones and hair.
Wht do people want this game to ho f2p. You enjoy being nickel and dimed?
>>143981459
I'd say its more people wanting to have an active playerbase and being willing to put up with being nickel and dimed to get it
I feel bad for PC players, you guys are always complaining about long queue times.
I've never had a match take longer than 2 minutes to find and I'm onPS4
>>143981459
I'd actually like to be able to play the game I bought.Also at the end of the day if you feel cheated for paying full price for something new, knowing that it's value will decrease over time, how is it that you could possibly feel cheated? I never understood this, you make the transaction then, and that's it.
Holy shit you guys actually have a general?
>>143983384
Please leave. Overwatch fans have done nothing but bring conflict.
>>143983384
Isn't your game rock-paper-scissors?
What do YOU people even talk about?
>>143982710
There's more people on PS4 than PC.
>>143876920
>>143856223
This week's battle plan better have info on something like tier 2 skins or, dare I hope, new maps.
Do you even talk about gameplay?
All you clods do is circlejerk over waifus.
Hope you enjoy how those microtransactions taste like now that they've been shoved into your throats
holy shit nearly 50k credits to unlock OP bitch?
are you pulling my leg Battleborn?
>>143989615
>47500 credits
>fourty seven thousand and five hundred credits
come the fuck on gearbox
why the fuck did i fucking buy this game
what was i expecting?
i'm going back to dota
>>143987894
>>143989615
>>143990496
Aah, the tried and true "Monster Hunter" bump method.
Thanks, friends!
>>143987894
>microtransactions
Where?
>>143990920
alani
>>143963536
I want Melka to jerk me off with her Bio Gauntlet
how you guys enjoying thatqueue time?
>>143990920
>>143991343
>microtransactions
>in game credits which can be only used and acquired in game
>>143993174
>alt-tab
>>143993464
Maybe he's referring to the season pass, which could be considered a form of microtransactions.
>>143990920
>>143994217
>>143993464
I was referring about Overwatch.
Fuck Blizzard.
>>143987894
/owg/ is that way friend >>143992885
>>143987894
Do you even read the post in this thread? This isn't the OWG where waifus are literally the only topic at hand.
>>143993174
no :(
>>143991343
Microtransactions are pretty much consumable transactions at a low price bought with real money and are designed to be purchased over and over and over again, example in pic related.
Alani and other story related DLC in Battleborn is bought through one transaction of $15-$20 for all content. Nothing micro about it.
>>143994795
forgot pic
>>143994795
>>143994764
I forgot to link to this shitposter. >>143983384
I'm 100% on board with you>>143994795
Although to be fair, 48 thousand credits for characters is excessive.
>>143994795
When they drop the episodic campaign they'll sell each new piece separately as well. I think it'll be about $5 each or something.
>>143994675
Ah... So you meant to shitpost in /owg/, but instead managed to revive /bbg/!
>>143995831
he just forgot to link the post he was replying to I assume, thanks to this post >>143987997
>>143995831
I guess that's something.
>>143995184
Still not consumables and still one time purchases, still don't count as microtransactions.
Also, are they really doing this?
>>143995979Oh man...All the sweet effects from BB have fucked up my eyes
>>143996761
Episodic DLC are microtransactions in my book. And yes, look at what they did for the Borderlands series, they'll do the same thing for Battleborn.
/btbg/ - Overwatch Is That Way General
>>143997048
Ok so they are just Microtransactions in your opinion
That makes more sense
Think of a character you main.
Now hit the shuffle button on your music player.
That is now your characters theme song.
What is it?
>>143996761
>>143994795
>microtransactions are consumables bought with real cash
dude no
microtransactions are any subsequent transactions linked to a game that you already own
content unlocks, DLC, arena passes, consumables, subscriptions are all microtransactions
>>143997048
>>143997048
Story based DLC cant count as microtransactions either because of the content included in them. If an episode of BB's story costs $5, you're paying for a giant level map, some legendaries, skins, and taunts. Not just one virtual item, but a lot of content.
No micro-ness in sight
>>143997651
So even $15 expansions can count as microtransactions?
>THIS IS WHAT OVERFAGS REALLY BELIEVE
>>143997838
Microtransaction is a business model where users can purchase virtual goods via micropayments.
t.wikipedia
>select all store fronts
>one of the pictures is spiderman
WHAT
>>143995184
they're going to charge for new maps? matchmaking is already fucked for pc why would they do that
>>143997454
>Toby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soa3gO7tL-c
>>143999209
Single player maps. MP will be free, but we don't know if they'll be "free" or free.
>>143997454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp3jda591M4
>>143999240
That's one sad penguin.
>>143999209
maps, modes, and characters are all free
unless you think character's in game currency ceiling is too high, then only maps and modes are free
>>143999240
God damnit now I'm imagining one of those angsty slideshow videos with edgy Toby fanart
>>143997454
Oscar Mike
Gorillaz - Kids With Guns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCkFSe3voRc
>>143998072
microtransaction: a hat in tf2
regular dlc/exansion content: story dlc, map packs
>>143997454
ISIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJc4s5DE04w
You know my name.
>>144000419
YOU KNOW MY NAAAMEEEEEEE
>>143997454
Boldur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiuryJgeckU
If only I mained El Dragon instead.
>>144000338
microtransaction: all of the above
macrotransaction: an entire game
>>144000947
jesus, how old are you?
>>144000094
>>144000000
>94 off so close to glory
>EU
>30 min queue times
>solo queue but i am playing with the same people for like a week now
I've never felt a game so dead around me. Maybe it's because the 65-70% win rate.
>>144001019
i never said expansions are microtransactions
>>144002972
>microtransactions are any subsequent transactions linked to a game that you already own
yeah you did
>>144003171
>expansions are microtransactions
said i never
>>144003269
>any subsequent transactions linked to a game that you already own
>any
>>143839783
Easily one of the best ideas in the game. Put it on orendi and then hit a mininon wave while someone is standing next to it and watch them melt.
>>144003342
that's right, expansions are microtransactions
now i said it
>>144003628
GOD DAMMIT
>>144003729
you sure fell for it :---)
>>143839783
>45 damage
>melt
>>143954515
Check OP post. Discord and steam group links are there. I'll be on around 10pm EST if you or anyone's tryna play (Balot)
>>143997454
>Caldarius
>Lightspeed-datsik and kill the noise
How the fuck am I this lucky
>>144004423
Are they any good?
WHEN ARE THEY GETTING RID OF THE SURRENDER BUTTON
FUCKING PREMADE SURRENDERING AT 284 - 391 WHEN ENEMIES WERE STARTING TO THROW THE GAME
GOD IM FUCKING MAD
>>144010882
>get imprisoned by the worst teammate because he once heard le never give up is what all pros do
No thanks
>>144011736
literally no reason to surrender early, you still get points all the same while playing
unless all your teammates are repeatedly feeding the enemy and the enemy is just stalling the game until the timer, i don't see why you would ever want to surrender
>>144011736
>"I am incapable of enjoying anything but landslide victories"
Die.
>>144011736
>squeaker starts half crying half screaming into the mic saying where faggots for wanting to surrender a game that the other team was purposefully stalling. he was 30 deaths down 0 kills greedily sprinting into enemy spawn turrets multiple times from the start of the match.
that's why people surrender fuck mindless team deathmatchers.
I'm surprised you guys even have a general
>>144015624
i'm surprised your game is so shit you have to resort to shitposting other generals
>>144016854
This is a strange phenomena for me to witness. I don't spend much time in /vg/ but does this happen often? Do /wowg/ and /ff14g/ shitpost each other?
>>144017248
the only time i've seen it in all my time in /vg/ is them thisposting this general
i'm sure it's happened in the past, but just not frequently that i know of
>>144017427
I fairly certain dota and lol players bullied hotsg at the start.
>>144009803
Discord group is OK (although a couple people insist on playing toby and WF because they are autists) steam group is D E A D
>>144017748
no idea, but knowing moba fanbases it sounds likely
I'm pretty surprised you guys even have a general
>>144017951
>still being too shit to realize that toby and wf are good
never change my man
>>144015624
>>144018554
plz stop its not funny
I'm relatively surprised you guys even have a general
nice ai coding there queerbox
why isnt battleborn $10 yet
i'd pay full price but im fairly certain this game will die within the next few months
>>144022495
why isn't overwatch $10 yet
thats how much the amount of content it has is worth
>>144017951
Discord and steam group are literally the same people
>>144022776
because blizzard isn't desperate for players; nor are they hemorrhaging whatever their current player base is.
>>144022776
Because it's one of the most hyped up multiplayer main stream games in quite awhile. It's also a new IP and looks very polished. Blizz doesn't need to drop their price, it already has a thriving community and it's only going to grow from the looks of it.
Stay mad stillborn's, soon enough your game with die off and no one will remember it. BUT HEY. At least you guys have DLC (^:
>>144022776
at least you're paying $40 for a game with guaranteed longevity and an active playerbase
even if battleborn did have more content it wouldnt matter because no one plays the game and it's gotten so much negative press
>>143997454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR4M-yJIq_E
>>144022495
Might as well take advantage if its current 'alive' state then, I've already gotten 100 hours out of the game already
...and I paid $80 for it
>>143997454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZqBabc_94I
Wow and i thought sgg was a dead general
>>144023793
>>144023143
>>144022776
>>144022495
>Not playing both.
Daily reminder that gaming companies are the 100% problem with modern gaming and not the players.
>Orendi for president 2016
>We're gonna take all our problems
>AND SET THEM ON FIRE
>>144023793
There is literally nothing good about Battleborn dying because of OW's marketing.
>>143838027
Total BB players in-game struck 993 today
https://steamdb.info/app/394230/graphs/
R.I.P. not even a month has passed
>>144033770
lmao the game is already approaching kf2 tier playerbase
>>144033770
lmao how did gbox even make money if only 1000 people bought it.
>>144035439
Expect Borderlands 3 to be rushed to try and keep the company afloat.
>>144038663
>Inb4 B3 is followed by Pre-sequel-sequel 6 months later for a net profit in 2016 that's still 1/10000th of Blizzard's sales on Overwatch alone.
>>144035439
Is that how that works?
>>144024535
It isn't that 'alive' any more, and it's still plagued with people dodging the fucked matchmaking. All I do now is advanced solo hardcore so I don't have to deal with that bullshit. At this rate by the time Gearbox releases the shitty story mission DLC there'll be no one around to play them.
>>144040983
>Not refunding this train wreck if you're not playing it anymore
That's just wasteful. Reasonable assumption that barely 1000 own it.
>>143852968
DED GAMES 101
>>144017748
Jokes on them because HOTS will last much longer than LoL because Blizzerp isn't a one trick pony like Rotten Games.
>>144033064
Battleborn will die because of the SEASON PASS bullshit system.
>>144042369
Really? Because it's season pass is cheaper than 90% of the other games with season passes. The season pass is the same price as the equivalent in overwatch, the "origins" edition. And this game lacks microtransactions, which overwatch has.
>>144043138
How is post-release DLC that will also be sold piecemeal not microtransactions? By that definition only RNG boxes are.
>>144043431
Literally it is a 'microtransaction.'
It's also literally the kind of expansion you would get at the store, that comes in a cardboard box with another CD, since it's at least four PvE levels and five characters.
That's 1/4th the number of characters, and about half the PvE levels.
>>144044223
You don't know how Gearbox works, do you? They'll make one level and sell it for $5. The season pass is a bundle that you pay for up front, that is a kind of promise that they will make five more of these levels.
$5 a level is microtransactions.
Imagine if Phoebe learns that she's not the true heir of the family fortune?
That in reality her mother was a mistress to her father and he and her mother put a hit on his wife and the other kid while they were on a little trip in space and they were thought to have fatally crashed on some forsaken planet?
Then said half sister pops up unannounced to reclaim her fortune?
>>143997454
https://youtu.be/p3K1l3_W7TA
Shayne
Not bad but not edgy teen angsty enough.
>/v/ is literally incapable of discussing Battleborn in any way that isn't rampant shitposting and dank memes
>>144035439
>>144033770
>>144040983
>>144041637
No what it means is that there were less than 1000 players playing at one time which means that not a lot of people are playing it anymore on PC. On release, 12000 people were playing it. Now a month in, the player-base ranges from 1000-4000 and is slowly decreasing.
>>144050032
Plus, Steam numbers don't count people who aren't playing the game on Steam.
>>144046717
Pretty much /v/ with any video game at this point.
>get stuck with lvl 20s vs 2 lvl78s
>fucking huge one-sided stomp
>try to leave after the game
>get stuck in the same game, with them again
BLIZZARD STOP THIS
Is it just me, or at a certain point does reaper just stop working?
Used to wrek entire teams, now can't get anything done
>first pick ambra
>a teammate picks galilea
>this happens more often than not
>>144055054
you need to keep a safe distance and take it easy until you're able to drop your titan
Don't worry, I'll buy your game. Both this and Overwatch look fun.
>literal 5 man premade of all 100s against a pure PUG
>they didn't stand a fucking chance
>>144056793
I don't think I've ever won when I've been paired up with 100 randoms. Genuinely seems like people who have gotten that high so far have done exclusively story or just hard grinding losses through pvp or something because they tend to have no idea how to play really basic characters.
>>144056793
The better question is why does the matchmaking
1. Match a full pre-made group of 5 against randoms, and
2. Match low MMR players against high MMR players?
>>144057636
I dread this when I get into vs.
I just like unlocking things for characters and it looks like having all the helix mutations is beneficial. But I don't want to step in at like command rank 30+ and then the game assumes I'm good or something.
As for premades against randoms, good thing league prepared me for that bullshit with Dynamic Queue.
>THANKS RIOT
>>144058131
I'm ~70 and the game pairs me up with a fairly wide range of people, so I wouldn't worry about it. Plus helixes are only really needed on some characters like WF, but most can easily get by without any.Also a lot of the time premades are shit at this game.
>>144057636
that's pretty much me
i'm rank 72 but have only played about 10 pvp games, i wonder what the enemy team full of rank 10-20s is thinking when they're matched up against me
Any Alani drawfag yet?
>>144058368
>MFW I saw Orendi's level 10 Helix Mutation
Wow am surprised yall even have a general
Am I understanding Oscar Mike's Level 5 Helix Doubletap correctly? Does it give him 30 rounds to fire before reloading?
>>144063789
It makes all 30 of your bullets count as Tactical Rounds instead just the first 15.
Hoooly fuck just got out of my first vs match on meltdown. We had no lvl 100s vs 3 lvl 100s and a lvl 92, possibly some premade in there but I didn't care too much about that. It seemed pretty even early on but then they outleveld us, and somehow I was horribly underleveled. I was still level 3 when the enemy was hitting 5-6 and our allies were hitting 4-5. By the time I hit level 4 all of our allies were already level 5, and I didn't hit level 5 until we lost by 300 minions. I have no idea what I screwed up there, I was in a lane most of the time, I helped secure a couple kills, I got my shard generator first and contributed to turrets and other structures when I could and even helped waveclear as necessary. How the fuck was I so underleveld even compared to my allies.
>>144064914
Build stuff, destroy buildables, kill minions and players
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>tfw even console queue times are longer
>>144069803
it's not so bad
>>144042369
What? BB's DLC is pretty basic when it comes to games. It offers characters and story content (which includes legendaries, skins, and taunts). There are successful games that only sell either story dlc or characters for an even higher price (Batman's DLC was $40, or Mortal Kombat's two $30 packs). BB's DLC costs as low as $15 if you opt for the deluxe edition and includes everything in those 2 examples combined.
>>144044482
And... are microtransactions wrong?
>>144074121
>And... are microtransactions wrong?
When the base game hasn't sold well? What do you think?
>>144059816
Steam community artwork page
At this point I'm just curious about how low this number is going to go.
>>143990496
>>144074186
They aren't wrong in that situation either.
Though, that's not what's going on in BB.
>>144074541
>>144075113
It is absolutely part of why BB is fucked right now. $60 + $20 for a game that didn't have enough polish or staying power to hold on to more than 1000 concurrent users off-peak.
>>144073784
It's not, but this dead game meme is starting to get to me
Hey, can I have some tips for playing as Caldarius?
His long cooldown and mediocre weapons leave me in an awkward spot until he gets his ult and makes everyone below half health disappear.
>>144076049
use the fucking secondary melee attack
i've seen so many caldariuses not use it
>>144075682
It's a game with not many people playing it at the moment.
It's still a lot of fun and hopefully, as GBX continues to support it, it will build a larger audience.
>>144075578
The game has huge amounts of staying power. Remember, this game is supposed to be a MOBA, which are games designed to be played for a long time.
The lack of players is primarily due to flubbed marketing and Overwatch. Maybe as the Overwatch hype subsides, BB will get it's chance to shine.
In terms of polish, yes, it is no Overwatch. But for what the game does it does a good job at visually, stylistically, and gameplay-wise. Gearbox doesn't have the resource to constantly polish a game but since this game does have the opportunity to be supported (through being a MOBA) Gearbox has a chance to continuously improve on the game.
$60 is the regular price for video games now-a-days. I don't know if you know that. And the $20 are optional but do require more work from the dev.
>>144058368
>go against a lvl100 premade of
>Rath
>Kelvin
>Miko
>Caldarius
>Galilea
>mfw you can probably guess what happened any time one person dared to approach
Happened like two days ago and I'm still a little salty inside.
>>144076358
>The game has huge amounts of staying power.
>Maybe as the Overwatch hype subsides
We are weeks past Overwatch. You're optimistic about it but reality bears out. The dwindling numbers already prove that the game has no staying power. The people who buy it don't want to play it. I'm one of them and I find myself playing it less and less. There're fundamentally flaws with it that I'm not sure GBX can fix.
>only play as a premade with my buddies
>they're literally all shit apart from one of them
>i'm forced to go rath to carry them through every game
where can i find non shitters
>>144076446
It happens. Gotta move on and GIT GUUUDDD.
>>144076532
Game literally came out a week ago anon (BB was 4)
The game did also overshadow any momentum BB had coming during its launch (having betas every time Battleborn had one). And it being Activision-Blizzard, they knew what they were doing.
>There're fundamentally flaws with it that I'm not sure GBX can fix.
Name one 'fundamental flaw' in the game, other than it's not Overwatch.
>>144076534
not this thread that's for sure:^)
>>144076532
Which flaws? because i havent actually seen anything I could call a straight up design flaw in battleborn's core game.
It is hard as balls. It doesnt hold your hand. But Battleborn is really top notch in a lot of ways. It made a lot of neat choices that I think make it fun to play.
Whereas overwatch is only fun when im playing Reaper. Fucking fuck that guy is fun.
>>144076689
There aren't enough players so matchmaking doesn't work well. You either endure long queue times or high ping.
>>144075682
Yeah, I'm not understanding the core concept behind trying to convince a playerbase to abandon a game you don't play myself.I played the OW beta, but I'm going to wait for a sale or some sort of windfall before I get it because there's not enough content there and I'm waiting for No Man's Sky to hit.
>>144076689
>>144077103
>overpriced
>all the hero models look butchered compared to their concepts
>unlocking heroes in a purchased game (FOURTY SEVEN THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED CREDITS)
>overloaded particle effects, hud and viewmodel making it hard to see what the fuck is happening
>runs like absolute shit if you don't go into the .ini and uncheck basically everything
>PVE campaign where everything that happens after the very first mission is EXACTLY THE SAME including reskinned bosses and HOLD THIS POINT FOR THREE WAVES THEN A BIG ENEMY/BOSS
>fuckall for advertising meaning playerbase not enough to support all gamemodes
>matchmaking completely open and broken to compensate for low playerbase
>FOURTY SEVEN THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED CREDITS
i'm only playing because of sunken cost at this point
>>144077376
>buying into the non-game meme that is No Man's Sky
wwwew just fucking play space engine
no man's sky is literally just a scam, there is no actual game. everything you ever saw them "play" was pre-renderedand even if there is a game it's going to be even more bland than elite dangerous because of all the ebin procedural generation
>>144077529
>>>144076689
>>>144077103
>>overpriced
Standard pricing for a Triple A game, you mean.
>>all the hero models look butchered compared to their concepts
Opinion, and one many disagree with
>>unlocking heroes in a purchased game (FOURTY SEVEN THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED CREDITS)
Those would be the free characters added after launch, and in no way a surprise to anyone.
>>overloaded particle effects, hud and viewmodel making it hard to see what the fuck is happening
Again, opinion. I find it's not too bad unless you have everyone's ult going off at the same time
>>runs like absolute shit if you don't go into the .ini and uncheck basically everything
Have fun with your toaster, bud.
>>PVE campaign where everything that happens after the very first mission is EXACTLY THE SAME including reskinned bosses and HOLD THIS POINT FOR THREE WAVES THEN A BIG ENEMY/BOSS
??? First mission is a fairly straight up fight to and kill the boss. They've got escorts and point defense as well. I don't understand your complaint.
>>fuckall for advertising meaning playerbase not enough to support all gamemodes
That's a fault with the devs, not the game
>>matchmaking completely open and broken to compensate for low playerbase
I don't know enough about this, but you might be right.
>>FOURTY SEVEN THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED CREDITS
Real work and fake money, or you have the season pass and are saved that trouble, as well as getting the extra story missions when they're released. When did DLC become such a foreign concept?
>>144077529
>overpriced
$60 is a normal priced game
>all the hero models look butchered compared to their concepts
doesnt that always happen in games? the grass is always greener.
>unlocking heroes in a purchased game (FOURTY SEVEN THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED CREDITS)
since when is this a legitimate complaint? heroes are unlockable but don't take that much work to unlock. plus, unlocking characters is fun, just look at smash.
>overloaded particle effects, hud and viewmodel making it hard to see what the fuck is happening
thats an opinion, i've never had an issues with how cluttered the game is, it does depend on taste though
>runs like absolute shit if you don't go into the .ini and uncheck basically everything
runs fine on my gtx 970
>PVE campaign where everything that happens after the very first mission is EXACTLY THE SAME including reskinned bosses and HOLD THIS POINT FOR THREE WAVES THEN A BIG ENEMY/BOSS
mmo-raid style grinders to grind for cool items, people play for multiplayer anyway
>fuckall for advertising meaning playerbase not enough to support all gamemodes
marketing did suck, but i dont think gb saw how horribly overwatch was gonna go after bb
>matchmaking completely open and broken to compensate for low playerbase
the low player base is definitely what'd keeping matchmaking at an unbalanced level, they might add ranked if a big enoughn audience builds up
>FOURTY SEVEN THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED CREDITS
yeah too much
nothing fundamentally broken though
the game is fun and the possibilities for its future are promising, that is if it builds a bigger audience
>>144077992
>standard pricing
overwatch is a AAA game
>opinion
man i don't know how many of these generals i've seen but i haven't seen anyone legit defend the ingame hero models until now, hats off to you
>free characters
so why isn't it free? checkmate atheists
>again opinion
i'm sorry i can't see your opinion for all these fucking particles and hud elements
>have fun with your toaster
running i7 + gtx980, still getting frame drops and the game doesn't even look that graphically intense
>i don't understand your complaint
every mission is the fucking same
>that's a fault with the devs
fair enough
>just buy the season pass goy
i was on the fence to whether or not i want to buy the season pass. i wanted to see first if the game was good enough. buying DLC at day one is the foreign concept, you're a fucking retard if you do it even if by some miracle you can see into the future. not even with the fullest knowledge that a game is going to be good should you EVER buy DLC right off the bat.
>>144078540
>overwatch is a AAA game
$40 is not standard pricing, they were going cheap with that one.
not on consoles tho, also
>comparing two very different games
>man i don't know how many of these generals yadayadayada
well you obviously havent seen many of these generals, or have at least only been reading posts by /v/ meme parrots
>running i7 + gtx980, still getting frame drops and the game doesn't even look that graphically intense
a few hiccups hear and there doesnt mean a game is unplayable, i know you youngsters dont believe thar but its true
plus >>144078062 's 970 i5 set up doesnt have many issues at all
>every mission is the fucking same
literally untrue
>i was on the fence to whether or not i want to buy the season pass etc etc bullshit bullshit
whats the complaint here? that you have a choice over whether or not you want the dlc/
>>144078540
The problem is the fact that the game was released unfinished, with all the performance issues, rough edges, balance problems, and matchmaking problems that Gearbox were informed about in beta. Look at the issue with snipers on Incursion, how did Gearbox allow that to make it into release?
Then put on top of this the $60+$20 that the game cost, with the $20 actually giving you fuck-all except a different title image and a gold podium at launch. If they had released at a lower, less greedy price the game would've found a larger audience than its initial 80k sales, and maybe we'd have more people that decided to keep playing, since a large part of games is finding the long term players.
But that's 2K Games and Gearbox for you. They botched Evolve in this way too, but clearly learned nothing from that.
I can't play PvP anymore. Every time I see a Marquis I am thinking, that he uses an aim bot.
I hope Gearbox will add something like Steam for CS to prevent aim bots.
I also hope they patch the fucking "Kill X 25 times in PvP" and let us get the achievement offline
>>144081594
i have yet to encounter an aimbot marquis
just because theyre competant sniper doesnt mean theyre cheating
Afternoon guys! seems to be a good bit of shitposting from bored overwatch players already.
What are you hoping to see in this weeks battleplan?
>>144082064
Nerf Alani
ETA on modes
>>144069803
Since when? Ive had the same queue times since launch.
>>144082064
When the new story missions are out.
Oh and maybe the ability to buy Commander loot packs, at a higher credits price obviously
>>144082064
f2p model revealed
cash shop option implemented
47500 credits minimum for heroes, going all the way up to 127500 credits
paywall for command rank 25
details about the first DLC campaign (since it was finished before launch anyways)
>>144056793
>>144056793
This isn't a premade, played against this king guy several times, he is utter garbage, couldn't even accomplish jack shit as montana with pocket miko
>>144082064
ETA/Info on Tier 2 skins, hopefully something about new maps in development.
>>143908456
its a shame the marketing team and randyshillford never bothered to mention that.
Ohh wait, no marketing.
>>144080409
>gold podium
For season pass people? Where?
>>144085435
He was premade with those jokers. Even managed to go up against them again in the next match.
They tried to metagame and failed hard. Keep an eye out for those yung fellas, they're damn good.
>>143907795
Well. Never thought I'd be fapping to Battleborn. Might as well call it battlebutts now.
>>144076049
Be a fucking dancing bitch. Go in with a rath or some shit, and harass them. Plink away, then get close and use the energy blade. If your bud retreats, or if you become fire focus, back up a bit or run off. Try to save the dash for that situation.
t. Master of Caldarius
>>144087259
Been calling it battlebutts since day one
>>144086740
That was actually exclusive for the digital deluxe guys.
>>144077992
>Again, opinion. I find it's not too bad unless you have everyone's ult going off at the same time
>>144087676
Gay
>>144088328
>shows everything going off at the same time
>tries to act like it's his victory
Anyone know if attack damage or skill damage buffs Mellka's venom in any way?
why does this game exist
like just play overwatch
>>144088968
$0.05 have been deposited into your account! (the rate will change based on game popularity and loot box purchases, visit http://www.battle.net/shillrewards for details)
>>144088606
post a screenshot of any FPS that gets even close to that amount of screen clutter
the player isn't even standing in the middle of a particularily cluttered scene, there's the backdrop, a dead thrall, a couple live thralls, two heroes, a spell on the ground and the UI. the game gets way more cluttered than that a lot of the time.
i think a lot of the clutter comes from how the backdrop uses the same oversaturated colors as the characters. it gets hard to tell characters from the background when there's a bunch of super bright background details stealing your attention.
>>144080409
>the $20 actually giving you fuck-all [...] at launch
Wait, are you arguing FOR day-one DLC?
>>144078540
Disclaimer: new to this reply stream, just throwing my 2cents in
>Overwatch is a AAA game
AAA game with Indie-dev content levels. When most of your budget has gone into advertising and polishing you don't charge the full $60.
>haven't seen anyone legit defend the ingame hero models
honestly, just too lazy because I know its a matter of opinion and I can't really change that. I absolutely love the models, I can't say I love all the personalities but nothing about their appearance bothers me.
>why isn't it free?
To give you things to do. The characters you start with unlocked are pretty damn powerful both individually and combined, so you're not missing out on power. I'm an unlock whore 9/10 days of the week so maybe its just me but I like it.
>can't see your opinion for all these fucking particles and hud elements.
This is the only thing I'd give some leeway on, simply because you can't attack through allies either. When you combine that with the many choke points and small spaces in the pvp maps its very difficult to do what you want without having really weird positioning.
>running i7 + GTX980, still getting frame drops and doesn't even look that graphically intense
I wasn't aware any Nvidia users were struggling, I figured they were all AMD GPUs like myself. Either way the game does need more optimization, hopefully that fix comes before anything else.
>every mission is the fucking same
To some degree you are correct at the core of each mission's objectives, but how many online games actually have truly unique gameplay for 100% of their content? MMOs are just the same grind reskinned in 100 different ways, and when you aren't killing things then the game makes you believe you're doing something different by "Press the interact button on these 5 different things that do stuff you haven't seen yet!" There just isn't a complaint here.
>Don't EVER buy DLC immediately
If you want to support the game and like it that much why not.
>>144082064
This
>>144088606
my favorite part of the engaging gameplay is having to disengange and run around playing "dota 2 jungle simulator" crystal hunt edition.
There is a reason gearbox didn't push this shitter. They already have f2p plans being drawn up.
>>144088968
>Doesn't have co-op story mode
>barely has a story really
>capture point/payload game only
>Designs so uninspired that 90% of the female characters have the same body but with a 15% variance in scale
>Brought to you by the same blokes that drown every franchise they have into bland mediocrity
>oh, but it has the whole potg thing where you can post on reddit how you totally used your ultimate on a bunch of guys
>>144089703
>having to collect resources is bad
If Battleborn got a playable trial/demo, would interest pick up?
>>144090540
What?
Shout outs to this guy for pro tips on getting that Phoebe challenge done.
>>144078540
>overwatch is a AAA game
That costs $40.
>man i don't know how many of these generals i've seen but i haven't seen anyone legit defend the ingame hero models until now, hats off to you
We've been busy actually discussing things instead of fapping. Just give it time.
>so why isn't it free? checkmate atheists
How come you have to unlock characters in LoL, or just about ANY OTHER game with this many characters?
It's a tutorial. You start of with straightforward characters, and get the more complicated ones as you go along. But you also get a few complicated ones for if you think you're an expert.
>i'm sorry i can't see your opinion for all these fucking particles and hud elements
Then turn down particles.
>running i7 + gtx980, still getting frame drops and the game doesn't even look that graphically intense
I'm running an i7 and a 960M, no problems besides latency.
>every mission is the fucking same
No they aren't. The only problem is that they're usually too heavy with the defense missions.
>fair enough
It's the fault of 2K, who we all hate anyway.
>i was on the fence to whether or not i want to buy the season pass. i wanted to see first if the game was good enough. buying DLC at day one is the foreign concept, you're a fucking retard if you do it even if by some miracle you can see into the future. not even with the fullest knowledge that a game is going to be good should you EVER buy DLC right off the bat.
Why would you buy DLC day one? 2K always makes them put out a season pass on day one, then they put out the DLC over the next few months.
>>144090760
>It's the fault of 2K, who we all hate anyway
i'm not your buddy, pal
>>144087391
Well aren't you just the fapping trend setter, anon?
>>144091146
No need to be rude.
>>144091268
>That image
...I'm gonna have to dust off my tablet cause of this game, aren't I?
>>144091452
Do it
>>144090760
>You start off with straightforward characters
>MFW one of Montana's traits is "ADVANCED"
>>144091795
Is that a tail?
Since when did WF have a tail?
>>144092205
>Since when did x have y, that's not canon
fandom.exe
>>144077992
>>144078062
>>144078540
>>144089629
>>144090760
>all these identical replies
>>144092373
But on that note
>YEAH WHOSE THE DEFECTIVE CLONE NOW
>...
>DAMMIT ITS STILL ME
>Struggles with gun falling apart in character selection
ily WF
>>144092628
Underrated desu
>>144092628
Foxtrot is super moe.
>>144031991
>fixed
Ignoring the characters and visuals, does this game have better gameplay than Overwatch?
>go chair
>teammates pick 4 eldrids
>>144093856
it has a quantifiable amount more gameplay than overwatch.
only in a strict metric sense though, your mileage may vary
>>144094006
we need more battleborn reaction images
everybody dump now
>>144093856
More of a focus on team composition, objective based play, coordination when aiming to kill the enemy team as most characters don't drop from a few shots.
I feel like I'm still discovering new things about characters even a month in, and I haven't even tried all of them. Ones I'd written off turn out to be very interesting to try, or just needed some new gear choices to make me feel comfortable playing them.
The game does require some patience. Matchmaking is not great right now, especially on PC. You'll spend time getting stomped and feeling frustrated until things start to click into place and you stop playing for kills and start playing to stay alive and prioritize handling minion waves, map control, and the rate your character is leveling and activating gear.
PvE is so so. Ranges from pretty good to grind fest, I wouldn't put it against pretty much any other PvE experience and expect a fair fight but there's some stuff there that's kinda fun. It is married to PvP in that it's an efficient way to get gear unlocked and many characters have PvE specific challenges, some of which are prohibitively grindy.
>>144093856
Different games. Different gameplay.
Overwatch would be a more direct, faster action shooter, with a greater focus on killing the enemy to assist the objective.
Battleborn, is bit more cartoony, floatier, with focuses on skirmishing with the enemy (killing enemy players in competitive modes is nice, but really you just need them to retreat from the field to gain the advantage) and a little resource gathering/employment to assist the objective. activate your gear to help grow your character over the course of a match, and depending on the game mode, you can get turrets, allied AI minions.
Battleborn also has a story mode, which you can play co-op or solo
>>144094808
can't really dump quickly causeI'm the one making them
>>144094808
how is battleborn on ps4? i have an absolute toaster pc
>>144097898
A lot more populated.
>>144094808
>>144094808
>>143997454
Oscar Mike
I Believe In A Thing Called Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYNYb30nxU
WHY DOES THIS FIT SO WELL?
why are certain character's lore challenges way easier than others
>>144103067
Because Gearbox thought that there'd be a million people playing the game, and that all the characters were perfectly balanced, leading to players running into a wide variety of characters in a reasonable amount of time.
>>144089468
He's saying that the DLC was part of the reason for the fuckup.
Would you fuck her ?
>>144103230
>>144103067
Except that you would run into Ambra 2-3 times as much as anyone else.
>>144105667only if she would top
>>144103067
>kleese is unlocked by getting silver on all story missions
>ISIC needs to play with a kleese X times for the final lore mission
>nobody picks kleese because not only does he take ages to unlock, he is also situational as fuck
AAAAA
>>144105667
>>144106052
>Implying it would be anything less than her fucking you with up to 5 tele-kinetically controlled toys of her choice, possibly including you.
>>144106426
>implying this is a problem
>>144105667
I want to cum on her hair
>>144105667
Yes
>>144106974
Excuse me, is this cropped porn?
>>144094808
>>144106553
>Implying I was suggesting it would be a problem
Requesting that someone make this reaction image battleborn theme. Your choice of who gets to express lusty desire.
>>144109192
el dragon would be the obvious candidate
>>144089102
i'm still waiting for that screenshot
>>144111410
wow you're pretty sad
>>144111476
dude i've been waiting non stop mate i'm right here ready to look at that screen shot of an FPS more cluttered than battleborn
any time now
>>144109192
>>144111995
make the head smaller
>>144095327
One good tip is to sync your elite bots with your Shepard wave.
With good coordination you can have a Shepard+thrall and elite out at the same time for big pushes.
>>144109192
>>144111821
Wow, you're really sad.
>>144115000
no, i'm just sour because i paid way too much for this fucking game
nice screenshot
>>144115563
nice butthurt faggot
just because you regret your purchase doesn't mean you should shit up the general
why dont you head to >>>/v/ with the rest of the shitposters, any battleborn thread you make there will probably hit at least 300 posts full of the circlejerking you crave
>post a screenshot already!
yeah, I'll get right on doing what you ask, you've been such a nice presence in this thread
>>144116514
can't we just fucking agree that battleborn has cluttered visuals if you have nothing better to come with? what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>144115563
Not even that anon, anon. Just making a comment.
>>144118229
>opinions
>>144118229
>just agree with me! please!!!
What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm not "coming up with" anything. You're shitting up the thread, just because people tell you to go doesn't mean they want to or are incapable of arguing with you. You don't have some ebin argument that's stumped us all, you're just shitting up the thread. Crying in this thread about screenshots is on par with the faggot who spams the twitch emotes. Move on.
>>144118229
In all honesty, do you lack the full visual acuity of a standard functioning adult?
>>144119345
jesus fucking christ that looks horrible
>>144120112
>jesus fucking christ that looks horrible
Tbh those are cherrypicked examples like in the Battleborn screenshot. In my experience with both games though, I can say that Overwatch is a lot easier on the eyes.
>>144118868
i have a(You) addiction
jokes aside i'm genuinely sad that battleborn wasn't as fun as i thought it would be. i have close to 100 hours, finished the campaign, and played most of the cast. i don't really feel like i want to play the game anymore because of the reasons detailed in >>144077529, especially the FOURTY SEVEN THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED one (there's literally no reason for unlockable heroes to be a thing unless they have F2P in the pipeline)
a couple generals back i asked you guys if the game was fun and worth a try, because i had tried the beta and kind of liked what it had going for it since i've played a lot of dota/lol. i got replies saying the game is fun, and just went with that. call me stupid for listening to you guys
>>144119345
>shows everything going off at the same time at point blank range on a muddy twitch stream, unlike the battleborn comparison where most of the clutter comes from the colors and the UI
>majority of the clutter just comes from the first person muzzle flash shit which probably only takes up a couple frames
>literally half the UI elements of what was happening in the battleborn comparison
>post-game replay thing
cherrypicking aside it's close but no cigari'm not going to play overwatch either
fuck hero shooters
why is he soperfect?
>>144120908
>Has almost 100 hours
>I'm not having fun
>I bought it cause you guys said it was fun
Yeah, nah. You can't clock that kind of time in a matter of days. I've been playing since release religiously and don't have 100 hours in. Poorly disguised b8, please remove yourself.
>>144120908
>i got replies saying the game is fun, and just went with that. call me stupid for listening to you guys
I don't recall a general that said that it was perfect. Everyone who enjoys it says that it's fun with some major caveats.
Fuck, the issue about it having cluttered visuals was one that was being talked about since the CTT. And barring that, since the open beta.
Just buy shit from the grey market. You don't have an argument about it being overpriced if you did so through there.
I got my copy for 27 eu. Worth every cent so far.
>>144121609
I believe he was made that way.
>>144120604
even at its busiest, it can't hold a candle to a typical in the fray moment of battleborn.
Between gigantic viewmodels, unclear hud effects, and general particle effects to blot out the sun. Its like gearbox basically went "we really want to use all these particle effects we've made over the years" And then built a game around it.
Game is pretty fun, but god damn does it feel like a war of attrition against epilepsy.
>>144121609
Perfection implies a lack of flaws, and he has one very serious flaw.
He's not Foxtrot.
>>144121717
you really think i'd be this salty if i managed to actually squeeze 100 hours out of it?
>>144122747
>i have close to 100 hours
>you really think i'd be this salty if i managed to actually squeeze 100 hours out of it?
This is the last reply you're getting from me. Feel free to put on a trip so I can filter you.
>>144122747
Your b8 is retarded, as are you. your a idiot.
>Have the game forPS4since my computer is garbage and the game isn't optimized to run on lower end computers even on the lowest setting
>Been in queue for a total time of around forty minutes
>Still in Queue after rejoining multiple times
>No game found yet
Either their servers are going through some shit or their matchmaking is fucked
It's a shame too because I really enjoy this type of game. Monday Night Combat didn't get enough credit either
>>144095906
this is great
>>144123490
Monday night combat was killed by uber entertainment, their quest akin to Hi-rez.
They wanted to be part of a gaming fad that they were always behind. Super monday night combat wasn't bad either, but they went super jew heavy and killed the game.
>>144122648
>t. Whiskey Foxtrot
>>144123490
Capture maps is the only game mode with close to that kind of wait time. So it might be you that's borked. I just got in one in less than 2 minutes.
>>144121609
h-he's just a generic COD guy!
>>144123716
dude SMNC died because while it was in beta some guy in their company accidentally released the game on steam.
The rest is history.
BE REBORN AS...
>>144125957
IRONICALLY, ANOTHER MINION!
>>144125957
WIDGETS?
WIDGEEEEEEEEEEEETS
Fucking hell I came here to laugh at people who fell for the Battleborn meme
But instead I'm sad now
>>144128018
>Battleborn meme
Do you even know what a meme is?
>>144128293
That wasn't an incorrect use of the word meme though
>38.99 dollarydoos
it was a good run
except it wasnt
>>144128958
Explain how Battleborn was a meme?
Battleborn hate is definitely a meme
>>144125957
A SHOPPING CART WITH A WOOOBLY WHEEEEEEEAAAAAL
Why is Overwatch called Overlook on Paheal?
https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1889479#search=Overlook%20animated
>>144129401
It's not though
The game is panned
All 20 people left playing are on console
>people exist who wouldn't fuck D.Va
Dumbass Mei players
>>144134021
>>144134054
Is janny having another mental attack?
kek battleborn
I laugh at all of the 12 people who still play it
So should this be Gearbox General instead? There are twice as many people playing Borderlands 2 than Battleborn.Just sayin
>>144134079
nice meme
>Rath on my team somehow manages to miss Catalytic Smash
>multiple times
You could be blind and hit with that damn thing. Has a hitbox bigger than Montana.
>>144125957
PLUMBING
>can't discuss Battleborn on /v/
>can't discuss Battleborn on /vg/
JANITORS PLEASE.
>>144136732
That's sad since that skill is like his best skill.
>>144143105
Why are you linking me to Overwatch general? I've grown to hate that game due to the actions of the cancerous fanbase.
>>144143798
>>144143105
I think he's saying that we should discuss BattleBorn in /owg/.
>>144143798
>>144143968
>tfw managed to somehow fuck up linking that badly
I meant to link >>144134189
Overwatch skins when?
>>144122648
The most perfect flawed clone
>>144149602
kek
>thinking about buying battleborn
>check steam stats
>not even top 100
>>144153852
>Steam
Aimbot snipers on PC.
>>144153852
It's a console game.
Which is a fucking shame since it's also an FPS, but fuck it, I wanted to be able to play it two weeks after release.
It's pretty active, matches seem to come just as fast as they did day one.
>>144156298
NOT THAT HARD
Are you all still alive? Because if so that's genuinely surprising.
>>144157097
>Not playing both
>Not enjoying good games for the sake of gaming
I'm surprised you guys have a general.
>>144154016
It's pretty easy to tell who is an aimbotter.
Check their profile or see >>143946370
>>143955956
>>143977994
>>144160457
And then back out of the match. Good games.
best
>>144163612
She fun as hell to play as
>>144163612
>>144164252
Should see
>>144093451
>>144060041
>Whenever Orendi casts Paradigm Shift a Shadowfire Pillar will spawn under all nearby enemy battleborn
Level 10 mutation helix unlocked at char level 12.
>>144163612
That doesn't look likeShayne
HAHAHAHAHHA
>sucking Randy Pitchforks dick
smhtbqh senpai
I think the decline in pccu is finally tapering off, but with these numbers matchmaking is still bad. Gearbox need to get new players into the game.
>>144163612
Orendi's main hands have 3 fingers. The other pair has only 2 and her feet have 4 toes not 5.
>>144165512
>>144165340
>being here instead of playing other games
How does it feel to know you'll never enjoy games again.
>>144166612
Just report the kid.
If someone has nothing better to do than shit post in /vg/ he is a loser
>>144166612
>>144167070
>i spent mama's hard earned money on this garbage but i don't want to feel bad so i guess i'll play this garbage
>>144167410
>I don't want to feel bad so I-
Nice projecting honeycakes, you're the one shitposting on a game that's got worse chances than the gorilla that got shot. Get fucked.
>>144168174
>i unironically play this and i actually like it
i tip my fedora my friend
>>144168402
>hating on people for enjoying a game
the cancer that killed gaming
>>144167410
>admitting he's used mommy's credit card
>>144168402
>GAME JOURNALISM IS BAD... UNTIL IT AGREES WITH ME :D
reporting on bb's low player base shouldnt be a victory for anybody, anon
but i guess if you've got nothing else going on i could see how it makes you feel good
>>144168486
>>144168642
>not admitting its actually shit
us gamers amirite
>>144168774
>Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue
>>144168774
that's because it's not shit anon
sorry to say but it's actually a good game
>>144168642
>6 players in the spawn
What
>>144169172
one of them is cloaked deande
>>144169098
That's the tragic thing. It'd be decent if there were more people to play it with, but because Gearbox screwed up the performance, the balance, the matchmaking, and the price, there aren't.
>>144170143
Honestly I thought the character designs were retarded, especially once you see them in game.
They have this "Look at my, I'm stylized!" look about them, but makes you wonder what they're actually trying to be if that makes any sense. One could argue that for overwatch as well, but definitely the characters come out better in screenshots compared to BB's.
this game is shit lol
>>144170490
niiice
>>144170429
>Gearbox designs
I realized in beta that this was going to be one of those games where I wasn't going to enjoy the art at all, but the mechanics had enough going for it that I'd play it for that. There's no comparison with Overwatch, since that game has a far superior art team behind it.
The thing is, people were unable to look past the poor art because the game doesn't teach them how it works, and because it's so garishly colored and frenetic it doesn't look good in streams. It's not enjoyable to watch videos to learn about the game because it's impossible to know what is happening without playing and fucking up a few times. Gearbox didn't realize how important things like that affect perception of the game.
>>144170143
Honestly, the only complaints on this game are either nitpicks or overly exagerated. The balance of the game wasn't that much worse than games usually are at launch. Same goes for performance, and the game is literally priced like 99% of all AAA games today.
>>144170429
>>144170714
There's much to to like from the art than to hate, a few mishaps sure, but overall all the designs fit the world they're trying to build.
A 'criticism' isn't something you can pull out because a game doesn't match ideas in your head. It's their game and they can stylize however they want to.
>>144170917
>Same goes for performance
No. Go look at all the threads about poor FPS on the official forums, the steam forums, or on anything that has discussion about Battleborn at all. The game is plagued with a serious problem with performance that appears to affect random configurations. This is probably why Gearbox has maintained complete radio silence about it, because they have yet to pinpoint the cause.
>>144170917
>Art is subjective
Is that your point? You might enjoy it, but it doesn't change the fact that streams of the game are very hard to watch. Show one to a friend who hasn't played the game and ask them if they know what they should be watching.
>>144171169
i have never had an issue with bb in terms of performance and i have almost 120 hours in it
sure the game has issues from what i hear, but to say it effects the game the same way batman's problems did (just an example) is overly exaggerating it
and it terms of art, I guess overwatch does look better in streams but the player should be able to tell what's going on usually
>>144170917
I love the game and really wish it were doing better player wise but performance sucks fuckin' balls dude.
>videogame is an artform
>>144171624
I've noticed there are two groups of FPS players in performance threads. The group that doesn't notice the performance don't seem to be bothered by things like input lag and are happy even if the framerate jumps around goes from 72->28->40 when panning the camera. >>144171446 is an example. In 120 hours, he hasn't even noticed the FPS tanking in the starting area of The Saboteur.
>>144171854
My frames as well as the people I play with who have much stronger computers than I do have dips in the FPS to at least below 15 in a lot of spots on story maps
Echelon and the snowy meltdown map as well
>>144171957
>Echelon and the snowy meltdown map as well
This is why I never pick them. I can't play an FPS when my aim is shot to how erratic input is because of frame pacing.
>>144171893
see
>>>/trash/
ayyy
>b-but its fun
AYYY
>>144171624
I agree with you and it's an issue on all levels of pc perfonace unlike say in many places in 4chan or others forums were people complain about pc performance but play with really outdated/ghatto pc's.
>>144172598
Yeah, like my computer is dated but at the same time it could run GTA V which wasn't exactly well optimized in a lot of respects
It's definitely an issue with the game itself, BB really was screwed up in a LOT of ways
Had they pushed the date back to NOT be right at the same time as Overwatch it would have helped as we would have a lot less shitposters here for example, plus they could have had time to tweak shit further. Also a major lack of marketing didn't help.
For all the issues though the game itself is fun and I really enjoy it, I hope they get their shit straightened out because at the rate things are going the game is probably going to be dead soon, 'least on PC for sure.
>>144170917
>A 'criticism' isn't something you can pull out because a game doesn't match ideas in your head. It's their game and they can stylize however they want to.
If you are gonna stylize you better stylize so it conveys information rather than obfuscating it.
It bugs me so much how they screwed up a simple concept like Montana the heavy weapons guy by doing everything to reduce the weight of the gun and the power of the character.
Toby is the worst mech pilot design I've ever seen barring League's Rumble. Why the fuck is it a penguin? Why the fuck does the penguin have a red mech? Why does the hot blooded red mech have no melee abilities and do things like project shields and throw mines? Why does it do nothing with fire when the engine is spewing fire?
Benedict, he's a bird man. Why the fuck are his feet so chunky and so heavy looking?
Oscar Mike is a clone soldier. Why does he have no designation insignia? Every clone characters in media that doesn't actually emerge in droves have insignias or markings on uniform that showed that it was part of many but unique now.
I could go on and on.
>>144172598
i5 gtx970 set up here
literally ZERO problems but lag issues, which is mostly steam shitting
>>144173212
because thats how they decided to do it, are you saying all art should follow intructions and guidelines?
not even math is so in this systematic
>>144172356
oh yeah i forgot fun wasnt allowed
>>144173354
Yes. There's a reason why art actually has craft and has education behind it. There's a system to making something appealing to the eye and battleborn does 1 step forward and 5 steps back with all of them.
>>144157097
heroes never die
>>144173508
thats lame
art education sounds like shit
>>144173440
>he thinks playing with shit is fun
>>>>144168402
alive general
>>144173652
what's the article supposed to prove? I know full well not enough people play this game
doesnt make it bad
>>144173259
Like does the steam overlay cause issues with games?
>>144175619
the games run on steam connectivity. if steam is shitting the bed in terms of online, battleborn starts having problems.
didn't think reyna was that limber
>>143838027
>this thread has been up since may 29th
>it is now june 2nd
>it's still nowhere near the bump limit
meanwhile, on greener pastures, overwatch hits the bump limit roughly every 20-30 minutes
>mfw stillborn
>>144175619
It's not the Steam overlay that causes Battleborn's performance issues.
when people think bb's a deathmatch game
>>144180298
>Marquis
>dying at all
He plays Marquis wrong
>Post-nerd Pheobe
LOL
>>144180867
>reaching 21 deaths ever
that's just playing the game wrong period
i think what the picture was trying to show was that the enemy team never used their advantage to push for the win, while thorn just pushed their shit in wherever there wasn't a fight
>>144177209
>MFW BATTLEKEKS
post yfw you didn't fall for the stillborn meme
So wait, is Toby a nudist?
>>144182071
i notice a lot more of these posts nowadays
looks like battleborn is starting to get more attention
>>144182071
>>144182071
>>144182071
Hey guys is this the Elder Scrolls Online general? Because I know that the general is quite quiet but definitely not this dead
Post funny memes that Gearbox would put in the game!
>>144184201
Your life
Let's make this the last general for Battleborn and make no more new ones after this.
Anyone else with me?
>>144187571
it looks like you took a wrong turn
>>>/vg/owg
>>144187571
Yeah! That's what we will do.
Who else is gonna be enjoying Overwatch(tm) when we're through getting refunds for Battleborn?
Oops, i meant to say Stillborn! Ha ha!
>>144187959
>>144187945
No I really am a Battleborn player.
I play characters like Marquis and Kleese.. I like the way you can shoot enemies with them.
Any other /battlebros/ with me in making this the final general? Let's bid farewell to the game
>>144188012
is this some kind of meta reverse false flagging or just more layers of irony thanthe state of overwatch?
>>144188167
You caught me, it was a double reverse falseflag.
Pajeet, we need to talk. The quality of your shitposts has dropped significantly. Log in to your Battle.net(tm) account immediately.
Battleplan in a few hours.
>>144190973
that is onestellarfart fetish picture
Post ideal team compositions.
Hard mode: No Alani.
Battleborn is growing. Nice to see all those shit posters, which push the general and show how angry they are that they wasted their money for Overwatch.
>>144190973
I am hyped for the new Battleplan
can someone explain the over watch dick riding to me? It seems like a soulless copy of tf2 sure it is shiny and runs well but, I do not feel that it justifies the hype.
>>144192215
>Nice to see all those shit posters, which push the general and show how angry they are that they wasted their money for Overwatch.
By the time stamps it was a bunch of Australians who actually are probably just upset they can't even afford to buy Overwatch.
>>144190973
Better be good
>>144192215
>Battleborn is growing. Nice to see all those shit posters, which push the general and show how angry they are that they wasted their money for Overwatch.
While i don't like Blizzdrones either let's not start being delusional.
>>144190973
Did they nerf ambra too hard?
Never see her much anymore
>>144193210
It's a combination of the nerfs and having to constantly dodge thirsty Alanis (and to a lesser extent Galileas). Once they nerf Alani, I'll go back to playing Ambra again.
>>144173212
>doing everything to reduce the weight of the gun and the power of the character
As an animator, I can understand what you mean here, but I have seen several spots where they do make the gun heavy.
I think it was an internal decision to exaggerate how strong Montana is instead of the gun.
>Toby
I can't explain Toby, and I've personally had enough spacefaring penguin mecha pilots from StarBound.
I will say I get a more 'WH40K Ork' vibe from the mech than a 'hot-blooded red anime protag' one.
>Why the fuck are his feet so chunky and so heavy looking?
They weren't exactly going for 'majestic eagle.' Mike calls him a cereal box mascot, he's not exactly graceful, one wing is prosthetic, and he uses high explosives.
>clone characters in media that doesn't actually emerge in droves have insignias or markings on uniform that showed that it was part of many but unique now
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but Mike actually ran away and joined the army. The UPR never had a cloning program.
OM and WF are the last ones we know about, and Whiskey's actually the one that seems to know what's going on.
He's also a clone for the pun of clone man = CoD kiddy.
>>144193882
He's still wearing the gear he was outfitted with as a clone trooper.
Otherwise Whiskey's gear makes no sense, why would he be wearing a busted up version of the same gear if he was never in the UPR and Oscar is wearing UPR gear?
>tfw you have to move to a place with potato internet and now every game is happening three seconds in the past.
fuck I just wanted to play Miko
>>144194225
well his backstory is that he was part of the same program and went rough or that batch where shit or something.
I think the point is to get across that he started out the same as OM and altered his gear to match his personality. Where as OM is still using the generic shit he was given with no mods at all
>>144085320
Well that's stupid
>>144182071
Overwatch = delicious rare steak served by a gorgeous waitress
Battleborn = uncooked chicken covered in rainbow sprinkles served to you by Brianna Wu who won't stop making long winded, unfunny, sarcastic remarks
>>144196490
Are blizzdrones the /sug/ or /gf/ of v and vg?
>multiple threads on /v/ about how battleborn is losing players
guys how do we stop the bullies
>>144197225
stop giving them attention, I already filter all posts in this thread that talk about player numbers or is just worthless shitposting
>>144172853
>Pushed the date to not be the same time as Overwatch
It wasn't. Overwatch pushed their second open beta to be on release day for Battleborn, then pushed the release of Overwatch on the Alani patch day.
>>144193882
>Toby
He literally scrapped together a mech to go fight spess demons, but was turned down because his shit was pretty much scrap. So he joined the anarchists instead. So yeah, he kinda -is- a good ol boi, save for the whole "psychic technology" shit.
>>144176906
Bitch could crush a watermelon between those things
>>144192416
Blizzard (TM)
>>144193882
>OM and WF are the last ones we know about
No, Oscar Mike is a clone, from a planet of clones, called planet Mike, where they have a queen and king Mike. I'm not shitting you.
>>144199360
I need to unlock his lore right fucking now
>>144200031
holy shit the game flopped faster than evolved
http://steamcharts.com/app/394230
Thank god I didn't buy it, missed a bullet
Glad I got Overwatch instead
>>144200470
Pls no bully KF2.
>>144176906
muh dik
Overwatch had 6 threads today
While this thread has been dead since monday
http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/battleborn-battleplan-4-6-2-16/1492187
>Reduced Alani's base health from 1451 to 1035.
>that's it
>>144204114
Gearbox officially gave up on the game.Me too
>>144204114
to be fair that's the nerf she needed
too tiny and hard to hit to also have fucking tank-tier health pool, on top of the fucking regen and heals. at least now you can burst her down after forcing her out of the pools
>>144203817
How many posts do they all have?
If they just hit image limit and make a new thread, it doesn't count as a whole general.
>>144204472
filled to the brim with waifu shitposting and 'le mcree boogeyman'
>>144204114
>Next week, we’ll be hitting you with more insider info as we discuss how scoring works in Battleborn Story Modes
Well I'm sure that'll be super useful to someone, somehow
>>144204114
She's getting hit again soon, but it sounds like this was all they could do with only a week after her early access.
>>144204434
I agree, but it would have been nice if they tuned her damage some. I don't mind her e or her burst heals, but she really doesn't need to be topping the damage chart as well.
>>144204114
Wow, Gearbox. No news on a big patch, perf fixes, nothing at all?
>>144209940
everything that happens from now on is just part of the script
expect F2P after the DLC hits
>>144204610
>Hates gearbox for memes
>Willingly takes 24 inch Overmeme dildos up the ass
Stay classy /v/. Everything could've been great if we had hated both for the same reason.
>>144214112
you fucking wot m8
>>144204114
>No detailed, in-depth post that at least showed they care enough to give us something to read, even if all they can do is tease us with things they don't have ready yet.
Just fuck my shit up senpai.
>>144216771
This is a pretty weak Battleplan that's for sure, they''ve been good though
>>144216602
There's enough hate floating around for Gearboxe's "rampant" use of memes in their games that you could start another world war on it.
Meanwhile OWG has 5 threads a day because >XD waifu le memes maximum overmeme
RIP everything
>wait 35 mins
>get matched against a full premade of lvl 100
Good good. Accelerate the dying of this game premades.
>>144216890
>MFW I realize KSH hasn't even put out their next update notes for Space Engineers yet and its usually out by this time on Thursdays
>>144217168
gearbox is new at this
>>144217128
premades are shit
>>144217371
you're shit
>>144217371
>premades are shit
Yeah a group of level 100's who clearly played the game more is not an advantage over random low levels.
Especially when they try even harder by picking the most broken characters possible.
Premades are cancer but since there is no one to else to play they can't make a queue for stacked teams. They are steamrolling through a team in 4 min and then wait for another match for an hour while reducing the overall playerbase for their game.
But to be honest i am glad for this. Gearbox is giving the least amount of fucks about the game so it deserve to die.
I'm genuinely suprised you guys even have a general
Props to you for going down with a sinking ship I guess
>>144218270
Thanks gorilla-kun
>>144217783
I can beat anyone at any level. Even pre-mades. Play enough games and it doesn't matter the name, you are good.
Time to get good.
Guys want to know the thing that hurts the most?
The fucking sub reddit has a list of 100% essential changes with only like 3 bad ones. If all those changes were made, BOOM.
But the shocking part is how they missed out on common sense concepts. I suggest anyone who wants to feel really excited then extremely let down, go read that list. Good shit.
Too bad the updates are SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
They had 1 chance and that was to patch the game as fast as possible. But console parity updates fuck that up. Warframe doesn't do parity patches exactly for that reason. Certification from M$ and Sony takes a long, long time. Patches can even get denied.
>>144217783
> Gearbox is giving the least amount of fucks about the game so it deserve to die.
How are hey not giving a fuck about their new franchise?
They update the game at least once per week and have shift code promotions every now and then too.
The game just came out guys, I don't know why you all want the world already.
>>144193210
The Alani threat is real, but she actually does pretty good out there.
Might be better balanced than post-nerf Phoebe, who doesn't even deserve to be played anymore
>>144188012
What's so cool about the way you shoot with them?
Are you trying this hard to seem legitimate?
Battleborn gens ain't dead until I'm dead
>>144221252
>update a game once per week
they managed to do one change on a broken on release character
nice one gbx
>>144221418
Phoebe is pretty decent though.
>>144222317
They need massive overhauls each patch. We need menu clarity, we need team HP/Ult portraits, we need tutorials
WE NEED AMD OPTIMIZATION ITS BEEN A FUCKING MONTH
We need something to be done about the particle effects. We need some menus to be redesigned completely. We need to be able to see opponent and allied gear/what it does. We need to see the enemy team after everyone is locked in, moving loadouts to the very end so you can not fuck up bringing shield pen on an all eldrid team.
>>144225187
>WE NEED AMD OPTIMIZATION ITS BEEN A FUCKING MONTH
Yeah, shit's been getting annoying/
>>144225187
Wouldn't knowing what the enemy team is be a disadvanta
>>144227123
It's only been a month anon the game is fine
>It kept saying Player Initialization Failed on PS4
Um guys...I'm the only one who been having this problem, right?
>>144220270
As logn as you team member know what to do you can secure victory with a good %.
I basically stopped worrying about going against people with higher levels because many are people who played PvE more often.. I've had games were I'm the highest levels guy or 2nd highest and there's a disparity in my allies with much lower levels or their team has a noticeably high average level and we still win.
>>144227139
Both teams are locked in. It reveals the enemy team, you THEN are able to select a loadout.
ORRRRRRRRRRRRRR
You pick your loadout when you spawn in game. Which does the same exact thing.
>>144227123
My specs
Intel Core i5 4690K @ 4.6GHz
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
8192MB ATI AMD Radeon R9 390 Series (Sapphire/PCPartner)
@ 1080p
Frame-rate is absolute shit. 12-40 in the spawn, constantly dropping randomly on PVE and PVP. It's their damn maps combined with poor optimization.
Alani needs more then an HP nerf.
>>144229048
She does more DPS than anyone when I do PVE even on advanced.
Gearbox are morons.
pls don't bully Rath.
>>144229048
queerbox already said that hp nerf is just the beginning, it's all they could jam into a hotfix
>>144094808
>>144167410
>Ratherwatch
>>144230861
And what a great patch it was!
Gearbox are so incompetent.
>>144231101
HOT
FIX
YOU
DUMB
FUCKING
NIGGER
>>144229479
PvE she's stupid but many characters are
The fact that you can run her and a supprot in pvp and not have that big disadvantage of low offensive power and influence is crazy.
>>144231227
Ok cool. It's been a month and they fixed TWO things. Incursion on 1 map and Green Leona.
WOW!
Go take a look at the reddit suggestion thread. I would be throwing everything I had just to get half of that shit in. But they are just twiddling their thumbs with no announcements of upcoming important changes. You just sit here while they are completely silent hoping they release a patch or "hotfix" that isn't worthless.
>>144231227
Not him but okay let's call it a hotfix. The question remains:WHERE IS THE FUCKING PATCH THEN?
>>144231942
>>144231971
Also the second Alani was purported to be broken as fuck. Hotfix it ASAP not wait 2 weeks. Christ all mighty. This isn't League with spaghetti code where you have to wait and do it all in one patch. You can fucking change shit, 1 thing and move along. But no, we have to wait 2 weeks to have her HP reduced.
>>144232304
>>144231971
Doing a big patch every week isn't a very good idea in general though.
>>144228706
>AMD
Well there's your problem
>>144233116
It is when you are hemorrhaging and tanking faster than Evolve.
The game fucked up a lot.
It launched the same month as Overwatch. Blizzard were clever jerks and ran the beta the same weekend as the launch of BB.
The quality of life throughout the game is horrible.
The price
The art direction isn't terrible but it isn't clear. Poor animations and sound design also contribute to how the game plays. Floaty and clunky. Unnecessary amounts of crap on screen.
The writing is just horrible. They tried to make the game not Borderlands. They are still too close to it in art direction and the writing is exactly the same. Constant rambling and being overly self-aware is obnoxious if every character is doing it.
I dunno, I am exhausted. I really like this game, but there is nothing I can do to help it. Gearbox are just stupid. You can salvage this, but you shouldn't have to "salvage" it. Sure, release the same month as Overwatch, just make sure your game is ready to go. Not some janked shit that looks thrown together. Again the User Interface just kills me with how bad it is.
>Hey Thorn, you know why they call us space elves? You! It's pretty much your fault.
i would like it if they added a queue to MP that was all three modes in one.
Then again like most games it would just end up with everyone on that one and ignoring the others. Shit that even happens to games like fucking COD
>>144227971
They're pushing the hotfix through
>>144233130
>>144233712
carful with those red hot opinions there anon, you might burn yourself.
Seriously though the only two actual points you raised are purely your personal opinion and taste.
Overall I enjoy the visual style of the game and desu I think they did a great job making all the chars look distinct enough that you can know who they are just from a glance. Even Denande and Phoebe have unique silhouettes dispute being very similar. I would agree that there can be too much shit going on sometimes but that is true of pretty much any MP FPS like this. Once you figure out how to read the screen. (PRO TIP: JAGGED RED CIRCLES ARE BAD!) then it becomes really satisfying to read a situation and know what is going to happen.
the writing is again personal taste although I do think it suffers in the story for not letting a joke just fucking die. in MP the only char I really dislike is Orenide and that is just cause she is literally just Tiny Tina from Borderlands 2. There are some lines that make me grown but I really enjoy hearing all the different barks the chars have for each other in MP and even some of the variations in the story mode.
also to the patches, they said from the get go they would do very small patches as and when needed along with bigger ones with more shit in them. It really is not practical to do anything else.
Of course, the fact that people only ever talk about the game in the context of it failing creates a self fulfilling prophecy. People only ever hear it is dieing (even though it has over 100k copies sold and played on steam) so they think it is true and don't play it. Thus making sure it does actually die.
Then again we live in a world where no one wants to call out Blizzard for shoving Micro transactions in Overwatch on day one so maybe it is all part of that games journalism conspiracy I hear about.
>>144234743
It's not really an opinion. It's generally acknowledged that AMD doesn't play well with PhysX because Nvidia makes their own cards they want you to buy. Turn PhysX off or down and you should have a better time of it.
>>144234924
>all my spelling and grammar fuck ups
fuck this I am going to bed
>>144235173
you can't turn off PhysX right now. Only set it to low
>>144235385
You can turn it off in the .ini files, I think, but I'm not sure because I haven't had to fuck with it yet.
>play hard and lose a close match on a minor score difference
>hit my spliff and decide to fap it in mourning
>must have been high and started a match somehow
>25 mins later
>oh shit in a match losing 62-98
>miko
>team cussing me out
>heal the fuck out of them and win the match in the last minute
>gghow was your evening /btbg/?
>>144234924
>The art direction isn't terrible but it isn't clear. Poor animations and sound design also contribute to how the game plays. Floaty and clunky. Unnecessary amounts of crap on screen.
The animations of the characters, the color palette, the sound design are bad. The character animations look like they are out of last gen. The cool character design is lost in the shit. The game is floaty as fuck just like Borderlands. I'd rather the game feel like I'm not on the moon. The sound design being poor means a lot.
It means attacks sound weak and do not register with the user or enemy/allies. Sound can be a key factor in combat to understand what is going on. The satisfaction of sounds is lack luster. Everything is mushy and muffled. When paired with the visual noise, it again factors into not having a sense of your surroundings. I am good at the game, I got past the rainbow barf. But it doesn't change the fact that they did not do a quality job with a majority of the aesthetics in the game. The menus look cheap, the UI isn't laid out well. Missing character portraits, strangely proportioned options menus, monotone color choices in menus, with key text being muted as a result.
If only they put the effort shown in the character lines that they did into the rest of the game. 22 minutes of talking is a lot, lots of character interactions. Not all great but impressive in scope. Considering the lame and bare-bones PVE missions in addition to all this, I wonder where their time and money actually went.
The quality of the Battleborn figures is a metaphor for this game. Awesome concept, lost in translation with low quality everything. It CAN be fixed, but redoing sound design is likely out of the question which is unfortunate. The problem is the time they have is short. Battleborn is sinking.
when will it stop dropping
>>144235173
This is the developer who implemented PhysX into Borderlands 2, an Nvidia technology, and somehow managed to make it run worse on Nvidia cards. PhysX performance for Borderlands 2 was better on AMD. Mostly because the way they implemented it cause it to use the CPU more than the GPU.
It's not PhysX, it's Gearbox.
Funny thing is that useless as hell mutation for Isic where Rotating wards is palpable on the ground is flat och better then Toby's shield.
>>144235807
I'm calling bullshit. You would have been kicked for inactivity.
>>144236090
>>144236090
Ain't nobody gonna be playing when they're rolling out the hotfixes, dipnuts.
>>144236459
Toby's shield IS useless even with the HP upgrade.
>>144236617
not even evolve died this fast. 1 month in for battleborn and 90% of the average playerbase is gone
>>144236459
Every part of ISIC is a Toby++ and its hilarious
The only thing Toby actually has going for him is the laser, and even that is trumped by the fact that ISICs turret mode is a fucking toggle
>>144237430
They need to buff Toby's damage to NPCs and lower his mine's CD by a lot.
>>144237430
It makes me sad. His design appeals to me the most out of roster but there's no reason to ever pick him.
>>144236537
Well like I went in to match making and it warned me y'know senpai,
>>144238223
>>144238058
>>144237430
>>144236756
>>144236459
t. Shitters who can't into toby
>>144235807
pretty good i played Borderlands 2
>>144238615
KC tier post nerd.
ISIC is better than Toby, end of story.
>>144238615
I can play him well but I might as well play ISIC or Oscar mike
>>144238615
Teach us semiautonomous
What is the secret to BadMarquis? How to gut gud with WorseISIC?
>>144230567
How can Rath be so edgy and yet so great at the same time?
>>144238798
Nobody chooses isic anymore
Since the nerf I haven't seen him used at all 178 matches in
>>144238786
Nice arguments there champ
>>144238885
Learn2positon, that's the basics
The only thing objectively shit about toby is his ult, it belongs in the garbage, like ghalts dual wield and deandes shitty windup thing
Has there even been a single positive battleborn thread? Every thread on /v/ is either blatant false flagging which draws in shitposters or straight up laughing at Battleborn. We can't even go unmolested in our own general.
>>144239740
DEAD
>>144239454
>nerf
When was ISIC nerfed? Been winning practically every meltdown game where I got to pick him
>>144239740
No, it's the rioting mob being watched by clueless kindergarten children mindset, /v/ kiddos noticed that bashing bb while praising ow is the cool and trendy thing to do, so they shitpost just to fit in, go with the times without doing any research, just parroting whatever bullshit they come across, as long as it's negative about bb
>>144239454
>he's good
>but his ult is shit
???
how can you reconcile this
>>144240168
400 hp down the drain, RW strength halved, RW bonus strength helix halved
>>144240580
If you think that a character's strength is governed solely by the usefulness of a 60+second cooldown skill, the do us all a favor and uninstall
0 cost shard generator for meltdown/incursion. Worth the slot?
>>144240580
>mines are good
>shield is garbage, at the least worse than ISIC's
>ult is shit
Now tell me, how is Toby a good character in comparison
I loved borderlands 1 and 2 and I liked league of legends for a while. Been playing overwatch recently, is this game really different from overwatch? As in, more MOBA-like
based off that stuff is itfunor worth it for someone like me?
>>144239454
>Learn2Position
Unless you're doing Incursion everyone will just chase you down, even other ranged champs will just melee range you cause you're fucked already.
Don't get me wrong, I love toby, but his shield can be outmanuevered in PVP and easily destroyed in PvE even on normal difficulty, good fucking luck on harder difficulty.
Shield health needs to bare minimum need to be tripled if you want anyone to take the bigger shield upgrade and even then its probably not worth it, and then his ult's damaged needs to be at least doubled if you expect him to get double kills for his stupid fucking lore.
But fuck all of that, I want him revamped. If I wanted to fight at range with a rogue battleborn I'd play Whiskey Foxtrot. Toby needs to be an actual frontline tank, his ultimate already makes it seem like he's supposed to be pretty close to his targets and his mech screams melee range more than backline sniper.
>>144241576
It's a competitive queue time simulator. Whoever actually gets into a game is the winner.
>>144241576
the only thing moba-like in ow is the skill system, bb has it but actually has leveling in matches and is actually a moba (in terms of pushing minions and killing sentries)
>>144244112
>STILL playing Incursion
When will you just end yourself?
>tfw I prefer playing capture
>everyone plays meltdown
>forced to play meltdown on paradise every game because retards hate variety and pick the same map every fucking time
>>144241975
>Unless you're doing Incursion everyone will just chase you down
I mean depending on the situation you can smack them in the face with a mine with the stun helix on it.
Free headshots for 2 seconds, they'll run the fuck away after that.
More than one person, yea, you're kinda fucked though.
>>144244915
Vortex Helix for mines seems to work better a dissuading enemies. Damn things are impossible to run through.
>>144244604
More like Coldsnap breaks AMD cards and has fps drops even on Nvidia.
>>144245386
I was gonna say I assume the non popular maps are optimized to shit.
>>144245386
I have a AMD and don't have any problems with fps or anything on maximum settings though
>>144245023
If Vortex helix actually keeps people stuck inside it for the duration I'd probably take it over stun helix.
The big issue I'm running into is enemies will dive you as toby before you've even leveled up enough to effectively use your mine as cc.
>>144244915
I find it absurd that his special dashes don't even help that much unless you actually fuck off the maximum distance away from someone or have the upgurade. Again another mechanic that would make more sense as a melee range character.
>>144239454
His shield is so easy to break and he can't even hide behind it completely!
Ult that has a massve startup antis to avoid. and he is defenseless while doing it so it's only viable purpose is to kill sentries. Also Toby has no way to reach the enemies caves from mid or in Overgrowth or under bridge to ontp top in Echelon alongside other palces in Meltdown that have amazing vantage points. Technically he can but that requires getting the mutation just to be able to jump up high enough but that requires him to give up an additional jump or that ass one where he has to burn all his jumps to get 30% damage reduction.
>>144241242
Depends on how dependent your BB is on getting certain stats.
Just started playing and had to say that this "thing" is a awful design.
>>144247731
all eldrids have shit designs unfortunately
fucking space elves
>>144247801
I haven't seen the others, but she looks like a autistic mong. Like, the haircut, the eyes, the earrings, just every single thing looks retarded.
>>144247731
>>144247801
I actually really like Mellka's design
Why is everyone so hard on BB designs? Is this some sort of meme?
>>144247949
The Celshading is ugly, like just awful, but it's a gearbox design, and going by BL2/PS they just won't stop making it look ugly.
>>144244284
You push minions in meltdown too
Incursion is fun because it's the most deathmatchy, where pushing really does depend on how many players you're killing (and minions).
a moba is more than just laning and killing sentries, its about strategising on the many different tasks at hand in a match
>>144247731
filtered
>>144248097
What's so ugly about it specifically? I think her stylization looks good and especially that arm.
She looks like a proper #BADASS
there is not one design in the game that doesnt fit with the universe but art is subjective, and if you listen to all the memes, i understand where you're coming from
>>144248097
>celshading
what?
>>144248314
>#BADASS
>>144247731
>tripfag hates the best character
Why am I not surprised. She looks straight out of Jak and Daxter.