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A thread for all simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.
Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/
/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral
/fsg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
Or whatever is on the group's profile
BMS download links
https://mega.nz/#!0BlTkazA!VUwoKAzavtJ3qIUy7lEF8D8MFjbI_Si-r6nwC3wQZYQ
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/54569phfy8au7/BMS4.33_setup
http://www.e-haf.org/PublicFTP/320/BMS_4.33/Falcon_BMS_4.33_U1_Setup.zip
Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in
Silent Hunter 3 pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/jNSvhFfY
Dangerous Waters pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/qvxk755r
FPSchazly's Dangerous Waters tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOSvzqNmdX71x2COOyM-p2qHIpRNOvpGQ
Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web
>Example of welcome sims:
Falcon BMS
DCS World
Rise of Flight
IL-2
Combat Helo
Microsoft Flight Simulator
X-Plane
Euro truck sim
Assetto Corsa
rFactor 2
Live for Speed
SAM Simulator
Steel Beasts Pro
Steel Armor: Blaze of War
Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
Silent Hunter
Train Simulator
Farming Simulator 2015
>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm* 3
Ac* Combat
W*r Thunder
World of ____
First for planes that will never happen.
gods plane
nth for furries ruin everything
BMS ops WHEN
>>143780045
Ban Jester WHEN
>>143780045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75j_TINcBmY
F5 live.
>>143782341
wtf he just took off and that was it?
>>143783024
But of course my friend! Do you doubt what ED has to offer? As you can see this plane at take off is already worth at least 70$.
BUY MORE MODULES
>>143783264
lmao wat
He said he was going to show an A/A and an A/G segment and then he just randomly shut it down.
>>143783024
>>143783264
They really need to hire a community manager, that actually does things.
>>143783426
On the next stream my friend! Until then why not preorder this quality module? Surely seeing an F-5 taking off is worth 70$ right?
BUY MORE MODULES
>>143783651
>Surely seeing an F-5 taking off is worth 50$ right?
It is from BST imo.
>>143780045
E-8 > F-16
>>143785096
I'm still salty that we're getting the most boring harrier and not a radar equipped one or a GR9 but it's good to know Razbam aren't wasting all their time on BR meme shitplanes.
>>143783426
>He said he was going to show an A/A and an A/G segment and then he just randomly shut it down.
No he didn't?
Also, jeez wags is shit at taxiing.
>>143785313
You will get the radar equipped one (and the GR9 if they can help it) but not until ED pulls its finger out of its arse and finishes the ground radar tech.
>>143785653
I actually doubt we'll see a GR9 after this variant, it just wouldn't sell well if there had already been a USMC harrier available. I doubt extra pylons and fancy TGPs would encourage anyone but the hardest britaboo to buy a second very similar variant of an aircraft they already own.
>>143785842
Wouldn't the GR9 be literally FREE money for RAZBAM?
>>143786027
Ehhhh, idk. If the GR9 was released, their AV-8 would have already been out for ages. Personally for me to buy a second harrier variant it'd have to be significantly different, like a Sea Harrier (either version) or something.
>>143786276
I mean, making a GR9 wouldn't take that much effort if you already made the AV-8, right? And besides you can be rest assured that someone will always buy your shit (see: VEAO, shitty trainers, WW2 birds that have absolutely fuckall to do IN DCS).
>>143786537
The problem comes from all the systems modelling. The night attack version and the AV-8B use US system, the later having the radar from the F-18; the GR9 however uses an entirely different system design (which is one of the reasons they're not doing it first despite it winning the vote, they don't have the documentation for it).
Upgrading the NA to the B would probably be quite simple, the GR9 however would likely mean having to redo half the whole module.
>>143786276
Just give the existing owners a big discount and you're all set.
Hope it doesn't fall through desu.
How many tracks can the F-16 bug in TWS?
Wags did an F-5E video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qg4ouwpxH8
>>143790083
Yeah it's been posted, looks *very* simple.Slavs BTFO at their own design philosophy.
>>143785096
Isn't Combat Air Patrol supposed to be nothing but that?
>>143791615
CAP2 is a different harrier and will be FC3 style simulation with a few clickable MFD buttons afaik.
>>143790083
Wow, even Wags thinks the forums are shit.
>>143792265
How'd you come to that conclusion?
>>143792361
At the start of this video he says
"This makes me really appreciate the job here, pretty much offsets the discussion forums"
Blue flags ops now
>>143792547
Wags secretly or not so secretly hates the community or at least the forum community.
He had a "reading the forums will lead you to suffering from tourette syndrome" in his signature.
>>143792923
Blueflag now
Serious question, why do these trees have heat signatures?
BLUEFLAG NOW WE NEED PILOTS
>>143793225
Because 1.5 fucked FLIR.
>>143793225
Because of the way it's coded, DCS doesn;t have a thermal texture like arma for example, i don't really know how it works desu, it seems to be a negative image plus something added to it.
>>143793110
Any landing you walk away from...
I haven't been able to touch vidya for 3 months because BMQ. Is the M2K good yet? Would it be better to wait for the F5E? Shame it won't have Mavs.
Never forget
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1464556239437.webm
>>143795165
;_;7
>>143793225
Why shouldn't they?
If anyone cares.
>not the super tucano
>all of my why
>>143796709
>gay old version without cool mfds
Fuck that.
>>143796709
Didn't the "people" from the ED forums explicitly say that they wanted the Super Tucano?
>>143797067
We're getting both. Calm your tits
I wish we could get a prop plane that could fire AIM-120s or R-27ER/Ts
Giving DCS a try after a few years away from simming, I used to do IL-2 so this is my first fast jet sim
Man is it hard to see anyone, at 1600x900 other aircraft seem to be basically invisible unless they're right on top of you
I did the dogfight instant action mission with the SU-25T and after the first head-on pass couldn't pick up the A-10s again without cheating with external views
Do you have any advice for situational awareness? Or is it simply a matter of getting gud
do the graphics settings have any effect? I have everything set to low I think.
>>143797104
Are we? I've seen nothing about the super tucano (other than everyone rightly whining about not getting it).
>>143797238
Do you have model enlargement turned on?
>>143797238
Model enlargement. Also the lower the resolution the easier it should be to see them, you've actually got an advantage over us with 1080 monitors, git gud.
>>143797238
Turn your ground textures into a blur and it'll be a bit easier to see stuff.
>>143796571
There's a difference between reflected heat and exothermic heat, and the trees in DCS are apparently putting off more heat than a tank's engine
>>143800381
You have proof of your claim?
You doubt the professionals over at ED?
You a pilot that has a TGP at home?
BUY MORE MODULES
>>143800280
>tfw ED still uses the shitty explosions
>>143801446
>it's okay when bms does it
Nothing like coming home after a hard night's work.
>>143801613
BMS' aren't shit though, especially since they're running under dx9.
>>143801834
They look fake as fuck.
>>143802316
????
>>143797238
>>143797384
>>143797489
I have model enlargement set to medium.
Here's what I mean when I say these guys are invisible, the right is zoomed out only barely from the left, but it's like a switch is flipped
is this the model enlargement kicking in? Should I try turning it off?
>>143802808
>is this the model enlargement kicking in? Should I try turning it off?
Yes, no. Try setting it to high, maybe use labels for getting you accustomed, and keep this in mind: in all other sims model enlargement is native, and something done out of necessity. In DCS it became a thing like 4 months ago tops (and some suspect only because the devs tried playing with the Oculus Rift and couldn't see jackshit, which sounds really plausible) and its handled like ass. Most of the retarded community is actually against model enlargement too.
>>143802316
This just in volumetrics in games look bad.
>kill everything at beslan
>no enemies in sight
>3 of us land
>huey landed troops
>beslan repairs itself anyway
>enemy Mi-8 spawns fully started up and with 23mm cannons
>kills us all
Why is this bullshit allowed?
>>143796709
>>143796932
Proprietary Embraer avionics, gibe monies befor plos
capture sochi pls
>>143804153
>>143804153
GET REKT BY MI8
>>143804153
bodied
>>143804153
OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED
>>143804153
Absolutely fucking removed
>>143804153
>>143805774
I chuckled.
>>143802808
Yeah, the implementation of enlargement is pretty fucked. An anon here created a model visibility mod that you can find on the forum.
>>143804153
And that's why you don't land all of your planes at once, leaving one in orbit of the field if it's contested.
Fucking idiots.
>>143804153
>>143806913
>i didn't hit the IFF button
admittedly, picking hostiles that are extremely close to friendlies is absurdly tricky when your only way of slewing left/right is with the nose
how autismo am I for wanting this thing in DCS
I mean I guess an A/MH-6 would be a bit better because better engine and more useable payload, but I dunno man I just have the biggest boner for Loaches.
>>143808447
Well I meant to make it about the R-13M1.
Right now its seeker head is insane and will lock so far off boresight that I have literally no fucking idea what it is looking at.
>>143808525Not even autistic for wanting a Loach
>>143808639
All the IR missiles are like that right now, shit's retarded, ironically they somehow fucked the IR seekers up while patching the radar.
I've been able to have some fun with it being fucked up like that in multiplayer/blue flag, though, if you're in a 1v1 fight you can get some sneaky off-boresight shots off in the current 80s blue flag mission.
F-15s generally have more than enough energy to outrun them, but if you make them go slow, you can punish 'em with the shitty r-60s still, r-13s just eat them up as well, I've just been using the r-60ms to spam with the extra off-boresight capability.
Also it's basically mandatory to use the "game" IR missile pipper rather than keeping it locked to the center like it is in the real MiG, otherwise you literally have no way of finding out what the fuck your missiles are trying to aim at.
Leatherneck is a mess.
>>143808525I want to be able to drop smoke grenades out the doors if we get it
>>143808525
Everyone wants an O/A/MH-6 anon, even if they don't know it yet.
>>143810423
>everyone wants another light chopper, only this time one that can do even less than the gazlel
speak for your self.
Why are all the scrubs flying the MiG-29 now? That thing has an Arma tier flight model.
>>143810779
Because they keep ripping the wings off of Su-27s.
Apparently throttling back and watching your speed are too hard, so is fighting with careful movements of the stick so to not over-exert the aircraft.
They think you can just yank and bank at max cruise speed and get away with it.
>>143810596
>lower disc loading means better in low speed/hover situations
>no unfinished autopilot to fight for control with
>minigun and/or rockets instead of ATGMs, so you can kill more than four things in a single sortie
The only thing the Memecopter has on it is the sighting system.
>>143811134
>>143810779
Kill your selves.
I've explained why nobody flies the flanker so many fucking times already.
Its just complete shit in every way.
I've been destroyed F-15's by my self in the MiG-29 because I can actually defeat missiles 9/10.
In the Su-27, the only way not to break your wings is slowing way the fuck down, but then you get hit because you are too slow.
Fulcrum gods plane.
>>143810596
>I'm a shitter who only buys modules for the armament
End your life.
>>143812507
>I'm a shitter who eats up shit modules that have no content
Literally buy a shot gun and blow your fucking brains out.
>>143812624
>flight model and study sim systems
>no content
lel
>>143812929
Go play FSX.
>>143812413
What're you going to do when the real flight model comes out? Go fly the Su-33 like a bitch?
>>143813420
What are you going to do when the MIG29 gets its PFM and you will still get killed by it? Load 8 120s?
>>143813420
Mig-29 doesn't have that much wingloading, the wings are smaller and the plane is less heavy.
>>143813628
>implying i ever get killed by migs
>>143813638
ED doesn't give a fuck. It's wings are going to go snappity snap.
>>143813772
Just you wait, in 10 years time belsimtek will finally come around to implementing that on the F-15 then we'll see who's laughing when your cockpit detaches from the fuselage.
>>143813420
Do you think I fly it because of SFM?
I would kill for the PFM to come out, it will make the plane even better.
At the end of the day, its a faster, lighter, more agile fighter, with better missiles. That suits my flying style, so I will fly it.
>>143814201
tfw i think the migs better overall, except for fuel, but fuck that fuel is for pussies, but i've been brainwashed by the knaapo jew to like that 27 shape.
>>143814507
Flanker is gorgeous, but its just too trash in this game.
>>143813973
The F-15 is a pretty solidly built plane, so I don't think that's going to happen.
>>143814201
>Do you think I fly it because of SFM?
Yeah, you fly it because your wings keep snapping. That's going to start happening to your new plane waifu in a sec too.
Besides, everyone knows that the Su-27 is more agile.
>>143814780
No plane can withstand 14G repeatedly, and the F-15 can in game with full tanks as well, they should be ripping off at that.
>>143813420
>What're you going to do when the real flight model comes out?
This is what everybody told Su-27 pilots and then when it got its PFM it became faster and more maneuverable. The same is going to happen to the MiG-29. It should be able to pull some crazy alpha but right now it's hard limited because of SFM.
>>143814780
You're an idiot.
Do you honestly think that having the 27's wings snap is realistic? If you do, then you are fucking lost and I can't help you.
The MiG-29 literally will not break irl. The pilot will pass out/die before that ever happens.
Keep pulling maximum G's at all times in your F-15 you ace pilot.
>>143815152
>>143815326
ED is going to make you mig break into a thousand little bits. Mark my words.
>>143815326
Su-27's wings snapping is realistic, anon, though it's probably easily arguable that it's happening way too easily.
Though honestly, what we have now is a massive fucking improvement from the old Su-27 flight model, which was capable of pulling 50+G without anything happening to it.
If the F-15 was updated to the same standard of shittiness I'd be fine with it, it doesn't make much sense that they updated one without the other being ready to implement at the same time.
>>143812413
>In the Su-27, the only way not to break your wings is slowing way the fuck down
You for fucking real? This is literally War Thunder tier thinking.
>>143815692
Well of course, the whole 40g thing was bull shit, but the way its happening is absolutely fucked.
>>143815685
ok dude. Why would you even want that though.
>>143815692
Su-27 is in beta
XAXAXXAX
that's the excuse the F-15 is beta as well, so it'll be all over the place.
The wing snapping isn't to bad and the su-27 can pull really tight turns at lower G, but it's obvious the plane isn't meant to have a short throw stick that's not mechanically linked to the plane.
>tfw BMS has a fully clickable SU-27 cockpit mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvpMClr2fxQ
When are we gonna just drop DCS completely.
>>143816204
when it gets good rotary wing aircraft
>>143816204
>F-16 hud
>F-16 HDD
Is the RWR F-16 as well?
OH BUT YOU CAN CLICK THINGS.
>>143816204
when they finally code unique avionics?
BMS ops WHEN
Same guys have made a bunch of cool cockpits for BMS.
I'm downloading one of their big packs to see if it adds everything like they say.
Should spice up our BMS ops a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxkeOlYsHwY
>>143803427
The community (read: F-15 idiots) hates the idea of model enlargement. They only play multiplayer, and only use the F-15, which has the best radar, and best BVR weapons in the game. They want to ensure that not only are they able to dominate through lobbing slammers and running, but that they are invisible if they close to WVR.
The worst part is that a forum member came up with a pretty damned good visibility fix that's a decent compromise between realism and playability, and the mod who is a huge opponent of visibility enhancement (who also has never flown IRL) removed the post from the general forum and tossed it into the 'mods' section which nobody really reads.
Fuck ED. Someone needs to come along with a truly modern combat simulator and eat their fucking lunch.
>>143811134
Su-27's FCS doesn't allow you full elevator authority at high speeds IRL. ED are just fucking retards who will do anything to ensure the F-15 is king since it's insanely popular among the teenage crowd.
>>143817102
That looks really shitty, though.
>>143817837
How? Looks better than the default BMS one.
>>143817971
It's a fucking mess. It looks like they just glued a bunch of gauges from some other plane onto a grey plastic sheet.
Why does the F-15 have an audible "over g" warning if literally nothing happens to you
>>143801446
just wait for the particle effects DLC comrade
Why does BMS have such horrible loading times?
What does /simg/ think of VKB and their peripherals?
>>143820996
/simg/ sayspastebin
>>143820996
The button layout looks fucking shit.
>>143820996
>slider throttle
>not HOTAS
I think it's just about absolutely fucking useless for anything this general covers.
>>143821380
>HOTAS is required for anything this general covers
top kek
>>143808525
Not even in the slightest, the MD-500 is magnificentIt's the reason I kept Take on Helicopters installed for so long
>>143821670
If you want to have everything mapped comfortably.
If you're flying DCS and only FC3 planes that piece of shit would be fine, but you could also control those planes just fine using only your anus
Dammit, DC-3, why do you have to be so sexy?
>>143821814
I fly everything, including BMS, no HOTAS.
Binding everything is gay. No point to having a clickable cockpit if you bind everything unrealistically to your HOTAS and keyboard.
>>143821919
Too damn sexy
>>143821814
I handle the Huey, Gazelle, Hip, A-10C, F-86 and all the FC3 planes just fine with a Logitech X3D and no throttle or pedals. Just map the twist function to the rudder pedals and use the slider as a throttle.
>>143822063
Then don't bind everything unrealistically?
My stick is just for toggling weapons selection around in MiG-21/Mirage, with some limited radar TGP slew control on the spare HAT, on the throttle I just keep "flight control" stuff bound like flaps and airbrakes.
>>143822063
How do you deal with binding all the hats that are used in BMS (TMS, DMS, CMS, radar cursor, and trim I guess but that's not important) without having at least 3 hats with a HOTAS?
Genuine question, not even shitposting.
>>143822294
>>143822202
Here, I just use keybindings.
>>143821380
To be honest, hotas is overrated. You can easily mount a stick with built in throttle on top of something and place it in front of you at a comfortable height, but with a hotas you're going to have to have it on the table, way too high up for comfort.
>>143816204
When BMS has helicopters
>>143812413
You do realize the Mig 29's flight model is a placeholder until they get an actual working one in place, right?
>>143822285
Ok well thats different. Someone in this thread thinks you should bind literally everything, because "In real life the pilot can flip switches and press buttons without looking"
>>143822294
I have TMS bound to my one hat switch, because its the most used.
Radar slew is arrow keys, because its what I use in DCS.
The most important functions of DMS and CMS are single buttons that I have on the stick, but i have them all mapped to like CTRL+Arrow Keys, Shift+ Arrow keys, ect.
The thing about BMS thats neat, is the only thing you techincally HAVE TO bind is, is HOTAS. Every single other thing can be clicked or pressed, and its really satisfying to do so in BMS because the cursor sticks to clickable objects and there's good feedback.
>>143823210
>full BMS tier Ah-64 or Hind
>flyable in all three major dynamic campaigns
muh dick.
>>143820108
Eh? DCS takes longer for me
>>143823594
>Radar slew is arrow keys, because its what I use in DCS.
Don't be a dumb cunt and add a modifier to your joystick and then use the hat for that as well.
>>143824131
I used to have my radar shit bound to arrow keys as well, but honestly, it's way nicer to have that on the joystick, rather that constantly fiddling with the keyboard.
>>143823979
>telling people what to bind
not worth the effort senpai
>>143824304
My other hand rests right on the arrow keys, and shift(my PTT), and can still control the throttle.
I don't think I'll ever use anything else until I get a full HOTAS
>>143824383
You're missing out, mate. You could easily bind teamspeak to your joystick too and then have both of your hands there comfortably.
How do I keep my screen from momentarily freezing whenever I look at an enemy plane in blue flag
>>143823594
Anything beyond close combat weapons modes and TGP slew/angling the antenna up/down gets done with clicking.
I can't even arm my weapons without having to look around and click shit. I prefer it this way, honestly, I just set up for what I'm expecting to engage before I get into the hot zone and work from there. Had a neat dogfight last night where I had to try to fumble for the gun arm with my spare left hand on the mouse while keeping control of the plane while trying to max-perform with an f-15 without touching the throttle until I had the fucker ready to go.
Again, it's not perfect, because it takes way longer to use the mouse and do shit than it would with an actual hand, but it's a bit bitter than instantly getting everything accomplished.
Plus it gave the F-15 time to get away so the fight was a little more interesting, otherwise I would've merked him without having much fun
>>143822712
What do you mean HOTAS needs to be high up?
The whole point of HOTAS is to have buttons available to the pilot without the need for the pilot to take their hands off the stick to flip switches and press buttons and their eyes off the target outside of the cockpit; you're not suppose to be staring at the hats & buttons on your HOTAS
>>143825414
It's not ergonomic. I like to have my stick basically at crotch level, like real pilots would.
I really wish FSX had better rotorcraft flight modeling
With the new MiG-21 RWR behavior, does the pulsing tone indicate a lock without a missile being fired, or is it the same as the old solid tone where it could be either?
Well I was really excited to try blue flag but this is completely unplayable
Whenever a guy comes near me my computer freezes
I just got killed by an F-15, as soon as I got locked up my screen froze, and didn't unfreeze until I was dead
what the fuck is wrong with this game
>>143829237
Your pc can't handle loading the high detail model and textures.
>>143825927
I do that too (more like I put the base on my seat between my legs)with my G940 and I believe it is considered a HOTAS, but it's not very confortable due to the huge force feedback base
>>143829339
So what do I do
>>143825927
you can do that nigga
I have a TM warthog and I just sit it between my legs with my thighs on the metal plate. Works like a dream.
Compare to other sticks I've had where there wasn't enough weight in the bottom to do that
You could build a little pedestal mount to put in front of you, but then you either have to have a tall desk or a big ass monitor so you can sit far enough away.
>>143829370
>>143829549
I've got mine taped on top of a big old speaker that's just the right height. Works great.
>>143830039
I dunno, my desk is too low to actually get it under the desk most of the time
I kinda want to floormount it for MAXXXIMUM PRECIZION but that seems like it'd be a pain in the dick and extensions cost a lot/I can't make one myself because the thread pattern on the warthog is some weirdfuck proprietary thing
>>143829514
Mess with the lod ranges in the files and set the highest level of detail to 1 metre, or something.
>even hoggit knows that the F-15 is the shitter's plane of choice
>>143831579
>stealing simg patented memes
dmca hoggit when?
Fucking hell, where the fuck is declare? I hate this shit.
>>143779867
How's the progress on Seven-G F/A-18 sim ?
>>143832594
When you're importing anything to the airfield, you need to declare it first.
>>143833027
I don't get it.
>>143836234
meant for
>>143804153
>>143836234
>we don't have any eyes, someone pls locate bunkers for us
>>143836234
Dam, are you telling me that the 3 blue players didn't spot the red team Mi-8?
>>143837135
leavue was off i guess
>>143804153
You got what you deserved for being a shit cunt.
>>143837135
They were all landed and the mi-8 strafed them all
inb4 stimpack getting banned for cheating
>>143837448
>2/3 A-10s in the fucking grass, couldn't even taxi off the runway correctly
>bunkers still alive
Found your problem. You don't know what the fuck you're doing.
>tfw banned from blue flag
wow
>>143838587
if you stop cheating, you might be given a second chance
>getting locked by friendly Su-27s at Sochi
>still in my hangar
>don't even have my fucking jammer on
are people really this bad
>>143838587
Say that you're sorry and that Jester is Godsplane.
That should get you out of this mess.
>>143838926
is there ever any reason to run your jammer, really
like every missile in DCS has a home-on-jam function so unless you're well out of RMax it just seems like a good way to give away your azimuth regardless of the guy's PRF settings
And no radar other than the MiG-21s has ground clutter modeled so not being able to see your enemy's altitude isn't that big of a deal either.
>>143839721
denying first lock and range information is pretty important, it also raises the MAR
>>143839871
I dunno, it just sort of seems irrelevant when the enemy can just pop a slammer your way and have a pretty good chance of getting a hit if you're within range of the missile- like yeah, I know in HOJ mode the missile flies a less effective intercept, but still.
I dunno, I'm really hype for more 80STEK fighters so that there's more to combat than just notching slammers/firing off slammers as soon as the target is within the DLZ. Having radars that are susceptible to ground clutter and other interference, missiles that don't home-on-jam, having aspect play a greater part in detection ranges- all that is gonna be baller as fuck.
>>143839871
Whats MAR
>>143840726
Mission attack range.
>>143840726
>>143840910
minimum abort range, the distance which you can turn and run safely without any chance of the missile killing you.
>>143839871
The effect of the jammer basically wears off before you can get to effective amraam firing range anyway, though.
>>143841275
All that really means here is that as long as you can burn through, he hasn't fired an effective missile at you.
Not really all that reassuring, but since missiles don't loft I suppose it's a bit safer in DCS.
>>143841767
He wouldn't be able to launch an effective missile at you anyway. All you have to do to defeat a long range launch like that is to pull your nose up a bit when it gets close, jammer or no jammer.
>>143841981
what kind of ranges in DCS is considered effective?
>>143842218
>>143842258
why the fuck did they open pre-orders so early?
the mirage was the first aircraft to have a preorder period, wasn't it? and it came out like two or three weeks after it opened.
Meanwhile, 2+ months for the Tiger II
>>143843902
>the mirage was the first aircraft to have a preorder period, wasn't it?
lolno
>>143844021
I dunno, the Mirage was the first aircraft that I was around for the release forpls no bully I took a long break from sims in general shortly after DCS A-10C I still have the original DCS Black Shark in my steam library
>>143839721
>>143840684
I just turn the ECM off when I get within 30 miles or so, that's when F-15s burn through, other Mirages at like 40nm or so.
ECM doesn't matter within that range, and the jammer being on just allows HOJ to do its work, so I try to remember to cut the fucker off when I'm dancing with aim-7s so it's just one less thing to worry about.
I mean, even though you can jam an F-15 for 10nm longer than he can jam you in the Mirage, it doesn't fucking matter when he's still got a slight range advantage on you, so having him locked first doesn't really do much for it, and the same's basically true of the Su-27/MiG-29, unless you start foxing shit off out of DLZ just to force him defensive
>>143822063
Kill yourself.
>when you think the FARP you're bombing is in MM58 only to have the cheeky cunt remind you it's in MM59
SNEAKY BREEKI
BMS ops WHEN
When will da boiz come back to the blueflag server ?
>first mirage kill ever and it's gods plane
feels good senpai
>dicking around with MiG-29
>get into a turny burny furball with a couple of F-5s
holy shit this is fun jesus christ is there anything more satisfying than glancing back, seeing a white trail, idling your engines and popping flares while turning cold to it and watching it lose track
>>143847506
They are with you in spirit
>>143847506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmrwj6DDt-4
>>143848502
yes, but I don't have a .webm of it last night's jew flag flying.
>tracers go by your cockpit
>look back, it's a godsplane you had bounced a couple minutes ago but managed to escape somehow
>juke left and right for a couple seconds, just watching the eagle
>stomp down full right rudder, pull the throttle back to half, and roll right, then turn into the ground
>godsplane has now overshot like a dingus and you are in his blindspot, circling back around to get behind him
Mirage is too fun. Maybe also a bit too forgiving.
>>143848502
>using the HMS to get high-off-bore-axis kills with the R-73
GODSPLANE
>>143847661
My first online kill in MiG-21 was against a godsplane in the last round of Blue Flag.
I laughed all the way back to the airfield.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKOJaCuIN9w
>>143849062
>missing a guns kill
how
the only aircraft I ever miss on guns with are the MiG-21 (because shit gunsight) and the Mirage (because shit gun reticule whose bright fucking idea was it to make it so it's difficult to tell the exact center FUCK)
The F-15's gunsight is easy as shit to use
>>143851146
Because of the shit-ass radar-assisted gunsnake/reticule the Mirage has.
After my experience earlier trying to use it to gun an A-10, I really think it's easier to just use the standard gunsnake and just line the little crosses up with the target's wings, I've had much better luck actually hitting shit that way in the past.
>Gennadiy Sokolovski, general designer of the Vympel Design Bureau, said that the R-77 missile can be used against... missiles such as the AIM-120 AMRAAM and AIM-54 Phoenix
yoooo when can we do this in DCS
>F-15babbies slinging AMRAAMs all day
>Slavaboos killing them with R-77s and driving to the merge to body them with R-73s
>>143851449
You can lock up missiles on EOS if you get lucky, i've blown up a aim120 that was infront of my nose once it was a
>Just as planned
moment
>>143851364
oh, you were talking about the F-15
I've never been in the cockpit of that piece of shit, I dunno.
Has to be easier to aim the gun in than the fucking baguette.
Was looking for like 5 minutes to find this dude.
Finally found him and he had no clue I was there.
>>143851565
I tried getting my Magic to seek on an AIM-9 that was headed straight at me earlier, but it just tracked the F-15 that shot it instead.
I know it's possible to do, though, I've seen videos of it happening, done in a Mirage, no less.
>>143851683
>dat ww2 range gunkill
>>143851570
Everything about the F-15 is easymode. Literally the only disadvantages it has, compared to every other fucking modern fighter in the game, is that it's not supermaneuverable and it has no HMS/High-off-bore-axis missile.
>longer engagement range with AMRAAMs
>inbuilt ECM
>better HUD and radar scope symbology than the Mirage
>AIM-7s are some of the best SARHs in the game right now
>All-aspect AIM-9s
All that shit is why I can't take anyone who thinks they're hot shit in a fighter seriously if the only fighter they fly is the F-15. It's like fucking training wheels- of course you're good, you're basically being handed victory over the average shitter on a platter. Like, I know there's some skill required when you face competent opposition; it's not super hard to defeat a long range AMRAAM launch and just sit in the notch until the fucker closes WVR at which point the F-15 quickly runs out of advantages, but how often do you see anyone actually do something that smart in DCS multiplayer?
>>143852081
Not often, but if you're being fired on by AIM-120s, they're just as likely to turn cold as soon as they've fired all of them and go home as they are to try and merge.
When the AIM-120 is a thing, I've noticed that most Eagle pilots don't even bother to bring another missile
>>143852187
always rather than often, shiiit
Last round of BF the number of F-15s getting closer than AMRAAM range that I counted was able to fit on one hand.
Every other time I got close to an F-15, it wasn't on their terms at all, it was just because they had been dumb enough to be making contrails so I just went below them, straight up, and pulled onto their tail.
>>143852081
>>143852187
>>143852261
When the F/A-18 and the F-14 come out later this year (>implying either of those will hit their deadlines), I'm really hoping we get some good PVP servers without FC3 aircraft. The Hornet can carry the AMRAAM, and the Tomcat can carry the Phoenix which outranges that by a shit-tonne, but they'll both be proper DCS modules which, I hope, will provide something of a barrier of entry so we'll actually get some competent BLUFOR pilots
>>143852478
Faggots are already crying about the F-14 not having aim-120s, it's amazing.
>>143852478
>F/A-18 someday
>F-14 someday
>F-15 still
And I'll still be flying my slav shit MiG-21.
Maybe I'll fly the Tomcat if its Iranian or something.
I just really like flying OP/REDFOR since they almost always have a disadvantage, and winning is so much more rewarding.
>>143852845
>MiG-23/27 NEVER EVER even though like 85% of the 23's avionics are already ingame on the -21bis
Leatherneck has expressed interest in doing it in the past, though, maybe it's on the roadmap even if a long fucking way away.
Now that they've figured out how to do variable geometry wings ingame it should be more possible for them to get done.
What are they even doing after the Viggen and Tomcat are out, anyway? The only other planes I know they're committed to are WW2shit.
>>143853000
>23
>27
>Didn't even mention the 25
REEEEEE THIS MAN
>>143853209
I want the foxbat as well obviously, I was just thinking in terms of what could be completed and in the sim the fastest.
>>143852845
Kebab F-14 most fun F-14
What model Tomcats do the Iranians even have? Or rather, what model did they have before they started fucking them up with indigenous modifications?
I really hope we get some cool flashy F-14 liveries. I DEMAND to be able to fly as the Jolly Rogers and the Sundowners.
>>143853284
They only got the F-14A originally, I think..
which made it all the more hilarious when the US shot down an Iranian airliner, claiming they thought it was an F-14.. which wouldn't have even posed much threat to the cruiser that did the shooting.
My country's military are a bunch of fucking geniuses.
>>143853373
>F-14A
Compressor stalls ahoy!
Have LeatherFuck said anything about what air-to-ground package the F-14B will be flying out with? I know they were shooting for a later model, but will we be able to sling a TGP on that bitch and drop JDAMs?
>>143853284
Jolly Rogers is a given, no way they don't have that in the game.
Crazy Ivan is at it again.
>>143854010
Ban ivan when
>>143854010
the absolute madman
>>143817151
Can't he post it in the russian forum where the devs will see it as was suggested last thread?
Devs really ought to implement Why's mod and have it forced on since it works the same irrespective of resolution, just a universal solution that benefits everyone but the shitters trying to game things in their favour.
>>143853000
>>143853209
>>143853261
More slavshit fucking WHEN
I want a MiG-23 bad, something about that design is just fucking weird and I want to fly it
Do you guys think that Tu-22 mod thing will actually go anywhere?
>>143854010
>>143820996
Pretty cool, but they need a more modern stick and they're expensive for what you get.
>>143854934
The problem with his mod is that it's only a bandaid to a broken system- the model enlargement we have in DCS right now is just shit.
If you read through the last page of the mod thread for it, someone posted a proper scientific dissertation on how to do model enlargement in flight sims in a way that accurately mimics real life spotting- the very same paper BMS as the theoretical basis for their smart scaling system. That is objectively a better system- like, straight up, vetted by ~science~ and used in modern military sims.
So ideally, ED would look at that paper, say "blyat, model enlargement is broken, davai davai fix cyka" and we'd actually be able to maintain tally on fuckers after the merge without circling around looking around helplessly for them.
>>143855118
It's a very good fix that ED could implement in 2 mintues, and then they could take their sweet time doing whatever they want.
Can someone go over how to defeat missiles from different aspects in DCS?
I know that's probably a shitty question to ask, but watching some air force training film or reading a manual that applies to real world air combat isn't super helpful for DCS considering how missile performance and countermeasures work.
I can defeat missiles some of the time, but it's not a consistent thing. Heaters are easy to spoof if you see the launch, you just have to idle the engines and pop flares while turning your exhaust away from the seekerhead, seems to work basically all the time. But front-aspect IRs and SARH/ARH missiles that you can't reasonably notch (be it due to altitude or launch distance) are more difficult for me, and I often find myself trying to bleed the missile of energy while spamming chaff only to get smacked in the ass by it.
In BMS how do I fix the hud in the F-18, it's all sort of cut off.
>>143855254
>>143855118
They first need to fix the exploit that once model enlargement is on that the users won't be able to change it. At the moment if any model enlargement is on, users can bypass server settings and have bigger models who are visible evem before they get into radar range.
>>143855354
Notch isn't an end all maneuver, it doesn't always work, and good pilots love seeing people go into the notch.
You need to learn when to run away.
But if you want to be helped you need to say exactly what you are doing against radar missiles.
If you are head to head with a guy, what are you going to do after you've been launched at?
>>143855747
that's coming whenever they get the integrity check working in 1.5
>>143853524
>Have LeatherFuck said anything about what air-to-ground package the F-14B will be flying out with?
I think they're undecided as to what AG stuff if any they will model.
>>143855906
I think it's already working in 2.0, they just need to hurry the fuck up and merge them.
>>143855831
If I'm aware the enemy aircraft can carry anything radar guided that's worth worrying about, I try to not enter the merge exactly headon- while that does deny me a heater shot on the merge, I find that front aspect heater shots tend to have a fairly low chance of actually hitting even if the pilot does nothing to evade just because of the relative velocities involved.
But, assuming a head on merge, I'll wait a moment after the trail leaves his aircraft, then generally do a sort of half barrel roll- lift the nose while rolling the plane and try to change direction with it while spamming chaff- that's enough to defeat close-range launches in my experience, but it's the ones further out that are harder to deal with.
>>143856534
>Wait after the trail leaves his aircraft
learn to fight against aim-120s, not SARHs
>Going up.
Just no, you need to drag the missile down low, into thicker air, and clutter, yes sometimes are high G barrel roll can help, but doing that every time wont really be successful, you want to start maneuvering the moment you've entered his launch zone, and point your plane down so you start losing altitude but exchange that for speed, you then want to do high or low G turns, you basically want to snake as much as possible.
So you start you put him at your gimbal limits and you point the plane slightly down, then after some time you turn, you don't wait for the launch warning, then you do that again and again until you are pretty much in the merge.
This is a head to head scenario where you both can't fall back.
But i get the feeling you fly an F-15.
So first off stop flying fag planes.
>>143856976
>F-15
MiG-29 is the only FC3 plane I've flown in the last couple of months, barring a couple ofnon-combatF-15 flights.
I usually fight at low altitude specifically to make it easier to defeat missiles anyway so pointing my nose down isn't really an option.besides, I feel more at home at low altitude because I'm a chopperfag
>>143857216
You want altitude, it always depends but you want to be higher up usually.
Going low all the time is a bad meme.
Sometimes it's useful sometimes it's not, i'd say if you are out numbered going low is good, but if you have the advantage or you know the enemy is all low you want to go high.
If you are low though, the thing you do is good, you want to get as much ground clutter between you and the missile.
a Good trick is going a bit up, going inverted and going down again, this can get the missile to impact the ground and generally bleeds a lot of it's speed, this is very good when you are running away from things.
Since you fly the mig29, you can notch with it at almost any range against aim120s and with a few chaffs it'll go stupid.
As for nose on IRs, go idle roll and pop flares, of course being a mig-29 you have fuck all flares, so you need to use them sparingly.
For example i love seeing people even when i'm in the mig-29, because usually they don't react to you until you lock them, because they stupidly think they haven't been detected, or you can just spew missile until they die, and since they are low, the usually can't run away.
Surely one of the best ways to defeat a missile is to drag it low while it's still burning and then pull it high to bleed its energy once its motor burns out? Snaking all the while.
>>143857589
I'm sure going low as I am (Usually around 3k ft AGL at the start of the fight and quickly descending) isn't the best in the real world, but in 1v1/2v2 training stuff it's serving me pretty well, especially considering how fucking baller the R-73 is with the HMS.
Speaking of notching, how much leeway do you have for putting the fucker exactly on your 3-9? It's pretty difficult to tell exactly where an enemy beyond spotting range is in the sky, especially with shitty Russian RWR.
What's the best theater for Falcon BMS? I think I'm starting to get the hang of this.
>>143857896
the closer you are the better, if you can get it exactly at 3-9 it'll trash it instantly, and he'll usually lose lock on you.
the russian RWR tells you when you are exactly a 3 and 9 i don't know what your problem is, you can also see what vector he is from you and turn 90 degrees from that.
Also going high lowers fuel consumption i forgot to mention.
>Watching random webm on wsg
>Some scifi thing
>Notice throttle looking thing on console in one scene
>Its the throttle from an X-55
Neato
>>>/wsg/1103936
gunships fucking whenif BST ever get off their asses and make the Cobra, it'd better have the option to mount the grenade launcher in the chin turret as well
>>143859372
You can often see the warthog in movies and TV shows too.
>>143860653
It' better not be the AH-1G
>>143860653
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3744849/Belsimtek_AH_1
>2013
Don't hold your breath for it any time soon.
>>143860956
>not wanting cool vietnam ops
>>143861275
>03/04/13
1. That's before the Huey got released
2. Now that they have multicrew working they could resume working on it right after they release the eternal F-5 beta.
>>143861413
>they have multicrew working
Barely working. It's still shit.
>>143861413
>>143860956
>>143860653
The BST AH-1 is trundling along in dev hell, afaik they basically started again at some point and it's unlikely to be a G anymore.
Mi-24 project is confirmed being unfrozen after F-5E is done.
>>143861551
It's working, and that all that matter. As far as I know both the Hind and the Cobra got frozen specifically because of the multicrew issue.
>>143861595
>it's unlikely to be a G anymore.
People bitched and moaned about not wanting the G and the Hind A, so that's perfectly understandable if they make more modern variants, and release the Hind A and Cobra G later, if at all.
Is it possible to have DCS style gradual trackir zoom in BMS? I hate this two step thing.
>>143861692
>Hind A
>Pretty much a prototype
It'd be really retarded to release that.
>>143861847
>Pretty much a prototype
Lolno.
>>143861694
Are you mixing up FOV and Z axis translation?
>>143862078
Idk, man. All I know is that it doesn't do what I want it to do. Is there a place where I can change it?
>>143862259
If you mean being able to zoom in like pic related, assign a joystick axis to field of view in the advanced control options where you assign the rest of the axes.
>>143855562
At least for now it's "supposed" to be like that in the same way the A-10C's HUD is supposed to be cut off unless you move your head forwards into the HUD. I'm not sure if the Hornet HUD is supposed to be like that or if that's just an idiosyncrasy of the BMS Hornet being a cosplaying F-16.
That's one of the many little reasons why I modded the BMS Hornet to just use an F-16 pit. It's a lot less annoying to fly, and there's only a handful of keybinds you need to memorize for the Hornet specific cockpit switches (wing folding, hook down, etc.). Personally I find it better than the alternative of a really janky cockpit where nothing does what it says it does and just doesn't work well in general.
Quick question, how do you guys plug in all of your flight sim peripherals?
Stick, throttle, trackir, pedals, etc. you're looking at potentially 5+ things that need plugging in to usb slots.
You use a usb hub?
>>143863925
>You use a usb hub?
Yes.
>>143863591
Funny story, my game crashes when I try to enter the setup screen.
>>143864132
Which one?
I want one that doesn't blow up my mobo.
>>143863925
Get a decent powered USB hub and plug everything into it, then at most you're only ever got to plug in the data and power cables.
>>143864204
Reinstall?
Noobie question about BMS: when I set up a flight for myself and an AI wingman, how do I know what the UHF frequency is for the flight, I can't see it in the briefing. Also, the briefing contains the check in frequency for AWACS, but what are the other tactical frequencies for and which one do you use.
>>143864605
Or VHF frequency, I forget which one.
>>143864605
Unless you're playing multiplayer with IVC, the only frequency you need to know is the tower frequency. No matter what channel you're on, you'll hear AI planes in the area and AWACS.
I usually just switch to channel 1 after takeoff and only go on the tower frequency when taking off and landing.
>>143864605
I'm pretty sure if you go to your DTC and set the frequencies to the defaults, one of them will be labeled "Package" which is you and your wingmen.
CAP2 hits early access on June 6th.
http://combatairpatrol2.com/
Time to see if it's shit.
Idiots? In ,y sortie?
>>143867570
>that 2004 model.
i am not holding my breath.
>>143867915
You can tell they want the VR market, it looks hideous.
>>143865002
>>143865119
Thanks, I just found out how to edit the DTC. I set UHF and VHF 0 to tower and found that UHF 1 is flight 1 and UHF 6 is package 1.
>>143868060
Set tower to Uniform 15 as its the first avaible preset that is not already used
>>143868273
Why not 0?
>>143868439
Because you cant select preset 0
>>143868439
theres a channel 0?
>>143867570
The game will live or die based on how its campaign works. They keep talking about a dynamic campaign and really awesome fleet vs fleet multiplayer modes. If those are good I'm completely fine with the ugly aesthetic.
>>143867894
That's what happens when the devs are too dumb to implement IFF.
>>143869009
>missiles have space for an IFF
I mean should they?
>>143869009
I bet you would blue on blue aswell
>>143869009
Oh , we were in the same package and they had me on their datalink AND they still fired on me So I doubt having IFF would`ve made any difference
What does it mean?
>BIGWEENY had to clean up the BF thread despite none of da bois causing the flame war
Yeah Blue Flag going to shit is certainly our fault :^)
>>143878604
BF community is made up from bunch of FC3 kiddies like Jester
>>143878604
>that face when your the Mod name memester.
>>143854993
Watch out, crazy ivan
We get it, you smoke F-14s...
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2618507&postcount=1
It's come quite far really.
>>143882416
Wanna smoke my F-14?
>>143883578
A friend actually let me "borrow" his M2000 module because I was so on the fence about buying it, but I'm underwhelmed desu. It certainly feels unfinished, so maybe I'll like it more once it's fully baked.
It's really not growing on me, despite how much I wanted to like it.
>>143883920
>but I'm underwhelmed desu
It's just an underwhelming plane desu, I only bought it because the money was burning a hole in my pocket and it was on sale. I appreciate the effort Razbam are putting into getting it up to scratch and I think they're doing a good job, but it'll never have many interesting capabilities besides its limited terrain avoidance radar + ARMAT.which it is unlikely to get imo.
>>143884237
... and to add to that, nor does it belong to an interesting time period where aerospace design was significantly different.
>>143883920
> "borrow"
If I have a friend with the Mirage, could he just give me the key so I could try it, or is there more I'd have to do?
>>143884926
Have him transfer you the key, then transfer it back once you are done. There is an implied trust here obviously.
>>143883578
> M-2000C viewable in multiplayer for those that don't own it
Wait so was it just invisible before that change?
>>143885282
When it first came out it appeared as a Su-27 with one engine out.
>>143858740
If you're covering any distance, you want to be high for sure, especially in the Mirage or Fulcrum, as they have really small internal fuel reserves, and thirsty engines even at mil power.
>>143885272
> Transfer
So does he need to deactivate the key on his computer first? Or can we both have it active at the same time?
A-any one have a good F-15 profile for the x-x-x-52 pro?
>>143885472
>So does he need to deactivate the key on his computer first?
Not him, he'll need to un-bind it from his ED store account.
>>143885370
That's hilarious
>>143885612
Kill yourself.
>>143854993
watch out, crazy ivan
>>143885612
Maybe, but it's been ages and it wasn't very good.
Just play around and find one that works for you.
>>143884994
>>143885857
is that from ops? heres my view from my mirage
>>143886120
Yeah, from what seems a very long time ago.
>>143886508
the top of the the hud glass, it being jaggy an weird like that really triggers my autism.
>>143886768
Making hud glass look like actual fucking glass is a slav sekrit only ED & BST have mastered.
>>143886768
It's like that irl too.
>>143888313
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3131/3083507958_4f00c1eff8.jpg
No it isn't it' isn't weirdly bent like that, at the top.
>>143888651
It's all about the viewing angel.
>>143888853
nope model's fucky.
>>143889109
(you)
>>143886508
I love the look of the mirage cockpit. Has it got a proper English skin yet?
>>143886508
>ILS actually shows a virtual runway
>>143889695
An English pit has been out for ages yeah.
Why did they give us an ancient boring shit version of the mirage instead of the cool modern one anyway?
>>143890631
Play bms if you want to do cool stuff in a mirage.
Play dcs if you want to do air-quake in a mirage
>>143890631
It boils down to good luck getting information on the 2000-5. Accurate info on the operation of the 2000-C is hard enough to come by.Anything that isn't American or British us actually quite difficult to get a really complete picture of.
>>143891213
>Play bms if you want to do cool stuff in an F-16
fixed that for you senpai
BMS FAGS LEAVE
GET GET OUT REEEEEEE
>>143891424
The mirage is really good is bms. Nice bait though.body yourself
>>143891530
Kill yourself.
>>143891646
Kill yourself.
>>143878604
was he just deleting the people complaining about getting TKed?
>>143891735
Nah, you kill yourself, living frogposting cancer. I insist.
>>143891985
Nah, you kill yourself, living frogposting cancer. I insist.
>>143891424
the HLD doesn't deserve that treatment
>>143891585
I agree, the F-16 is really good.
>>143892047
body yourself
>>143892123
body yourself
>this triggers the 16boo
Thoughts on the TM Cougar? Worth the 250-350 dollars on ebay?
>>143893248
How much do you have to spend modding it into a decent stick?
>>143893313
A lot.
>>143857216
>Defeat missiles
>Low altitude
I mean I guess you could probably get away with it sometimes, but you're supposed to be pretty high up so you can have the space and energy to pull off defensive maneuvers
>>143863925
>mfw my 2560 x 1440p IPS dell monitor has a built in USB hub with like 6 slots
>>143894980
>1440p in DCS
weew lad what do you get 25FPS?
Its all over.
Flying as undercover Soviet pilots for the North Koreans was fun, but the gig is up. The jew and the broke greek know.
Next round tho...
>>143894787
missiles carry significantly less energy at low altitude so high-G maneuvering becomes less important
that anon also said he was flying a MiG-29, so energy likely wasn't an issue because
>greater than 1:1 TWR
>>143895189
Should've changed your IP, dumbo.
>>143895189
>pissed of by "f@ck you"
>censors fuck you
>pissed off by fuck you
COMON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAXAvhRRol4
do you think he gets paid to do these
I played in the first wave of the closed alpha and it was just so... ehhhh. And it doesn't look like they've improved anything important and now they're charging money for it
and the CM is the old KSP skin lol
>>143895189
[spoilerr]bodied[/spoiler]
>>143895764
What is this shit?
>>143895764
>do you think he gets paid to do these
Probably
Also why do you guys even like these youtubers.
also the graphics and detail, and heli models are really outdated, it looks like a 2008-2010 game
>>143896067
bodied
>>143895764
>that draw distance
>that skybox
>that blue fog
>that lack of any redeemable features whatsoever
>>143892438
It triggers me with its massive shittiness. Just look at that fucking stick.
>>143895951
Magz is kind of cool because he's an Australian dad and he's actually got the theory behind energy fighting and shit down
as for the game, I could tolerate the shitty graphics if the physics weren't so bad. The way the helo rocks after he hard-lands it makes it look like it weighs about twenty pounds
>>143896249
I don't know what you on about m8
>>143896264
the heli physics make BF2, and Arma2s heli physics look like real life.
>>143895764
That looks unspeakably awful
>>143869381
le passive aggressive roshy
i bet i could outdrink you , pidar
Gee, I wonder how little FPS we'll get with these!
>>143897545
I bet I could rek you in BMSwhile being drunk
>>143897652
God those clouds look awful.
>Simulation Games General
>no mention of Harpoon or CMANO or anything
why
>>143898790Because this thread is the domain of frogposting furry faggots.
>>143898238
Nah, they look just the way they should.
>>143895189
heh
>>143898790
Because it used to belong to wgg, but then they went ded, now no one posts, hey you could start.
>>143899558
What, low res and out of focus?
>>143902190
>i'm a dumb shit
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164322
HAHHAHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5BmA3ejyHY
You nerds will never have a cool cockpit like this.
So is it impossible to watch tracks from the Blue Flag server, even though DCS is recording literally gigabytes of this shit onto my SSD every time I launch the game?
Fucking things just show a map, been waiting/watching 20 minutes now and it still won't display anything I actually did.
>>143903391
You need to hit pause/unpause when it's showing the map to actually get it going.
>>143903391
It's paused you know, first press the pause/break button then speed up time like a lot, then when shit appears get it back to normal.
>>143903580
>>143903591
Neat, thanks.
The SP tracks I view don't start like this, shit's a little confusing.
>>143903690
>He thinks there's any rime or reason to how DCS works
m8 not even ED are sure how DCS works at this point it's all layer on top of layer on top of layer of code since flanker2.0
>>143903848
> it's all layer on top of layer on top of layer of code since flanker2.0
It's kind of amazing how that happens.
>>143903358
>A fun story that gives the Mig-15 and F-86 a place in this fictional modern day setting.
Oh boy
>>143903848
>>143904000
It could be worse. It could be Arm* where the layers and layers of code isn't just a joke, and Bohemia genuinely has no fucking idea on how the leftover code from OFP works.
>>143904449
Well the people making VBS know, but they don't share their knowledge, even though they are like the same company.
It's funny as hell.
>>143904806
They could even fire most of the hacks that handle Arm* and sell a version of VBS with a shitty campaign bolted on it and "adjust" the sensible data. Not only they'd save money, they'd also kill a fair amount of the cancerous modding community in the process.
P-8 when
Su-27SM never
>>143906026
Did they get rid of the super shitty RWR?
>>143906202
SUPER SEKRIT it looks like it, but we have no idea how it looks like.
>>143906202
The helmet projects a digital SPO-10 directly into your right eye's retina.
>>143906202
>DigitalSPO-15.mp4
>>143906202
The newest Russian RWR is actually built into the seat, and it stimulates your asshole when you get launched on.
>>143906753
>asshole stimulation on launch
>this inspires the great motherland boiiz to enjoy being attacked
>Russian supermaneuverable fighters piloted by homosexual pilots in the throes of anal pleasure while intentionally drawing out engagements against capitalist shitpigs in their Failure-35s
>>143907020
is that why they have been doing rolls and passing by ships in the baltics
>>143907246
>XAXAXA DO LAUNCH CAPITALIST MAKE IVAN'S GULAG RUMBLE WITH PLEASURE OF MOTHERLAND DEFENSE
G-suits that are just gimp suits with pressure valves when
Oxygen masks that are ball gags when
>>143907543
m-my r-73 is moving on its own
>>143907543
banned in russia for promoting nontraditional sexual relations, tovarisch
it wasn't just about gays
t. pervert
>>143907723
>fox off a missile any time the pilot cums
>russian fighter pilots become masters of orgasm denialthis sounds like the plot to some shitty mecha hentai
>>143907983
That sounds like Godannar.
>>143907983
>>143907543
>>143907020
>>143906753
DELETE THIS
You guys are such fags.
I'm having troubles with my saitek X52 Pro, the clutch button (the 'i' button) stops working completely, not even in the control panel it lights up (the LED on it works fine though).
Sometimes getting into a game in the middle of it, it just starts working again out of nowhere.
I've tried googling the issue and all I find is people saying the same thing over and over again about disabling/enabling clutch mode in the control panel, which I've done countless times and doesn't work.
Does anyone have idea what to do?
Also, I'm using the 7.0.53.6 driver with the 6.6.6.9 software, and I can't for the life of me get the newer version of the software to work, as when I install them, they just crash when I try opening the profile editor.
I'm at my wits end here.
>>143909338
That's to be expected when half the people on TS are furries.
>>143909662
>I'm having trouble
>saitek
Found the problem.
>>143909662
Gotta resolder it.
>>143909662
I seriously hope you didn't pay full price for it.
>>143910115
>>143910771
I paid full price + shipping + import taxes, which came to about to about 3x the price.
I never paid so much to get fucked in the ass.
>>143910538
Well, fuck me. Thanks though.
>>143911679
Why not just get a warthog?
>>143911754
Or a VKB, as he seems to be a thirdworlder.
>>143898101
well you got memed and thenyou couldnt shootbecause you got_________bodied__________
:^)
>>143911754
Import taxes would rape me.
If the x52 pro already came at about $500, I'd be paying more than $1000 for the warthog.
>>143906202
DIGITAL SPO PROJECTED ON ALL SCREENS
>>143912687
Woah! Where is this?absolutely savage
>>143912687
Israel?
>>143913062
Israel only has high import taxes for the Arab population, so probably not.
>>143912916
>>143913062
Brazil, at least I bought it when the economy hadn't gone to shit.
>>143912321
Never heard of them before.
>install Aces High II for the first time in 6 years
>dig out my old Logitech Extreme 3D pro stick for old time's sake
>get into the P51B, mid war main arena
>climb up toward one of our contested bases
>furball involving at least 10 aircraft going on when I get there
>dive into it laughing like an autistic fuck because it's just how I left it in 2010
>in the end I only came out with 2 kills but it was a hell of a fight
Forgot how fun that game was lads.
GUNSHIPS FUCKING WHEN
>>143914081
I remember the Aces High 1 commercials on Discovery Wings channel. Played the fuck out of it.
>>143914082
Mi-28 looks fuckin cool but the visibility on that thing must be terrible.
>>143851683
just dont be this guy
>>143915849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbT-rvZoh_g
It's so your pilots don't get shot by a guy with an AK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BArp6RVgZ9k
Of course not saying that, the mi-28 isn't a complete death trap those things seem to love falling out of the sky for some reason.
Or maybe the Russian are just complete madmen and do madman things in them so they inevitably crash
>>143916153
Contex: both the MiG-21 and the A-10 are on the same side and the MiG-21 pilot is a retard.
>>143916402
said MiG-21 pilot is also in my unit and I refuse to let him life this down.
t. shively
NEVER EVER cross in front of the plane you're attacking, even if its primary function is air to ground. at the very least, a lucky gun shot could rek you, and otherwise, you're just getting a sidewinder up the ass.
>>143909662
I never use the profile editor, just the driver; unless you have specific macros don't bother with the profiler, it never plays nice with other software and is prone to bugs.
Try the control panel fix again (mine used to keep forgetting the setting). If that doesn't work, try putting it back into clutch mode, it (the LED) should then flash when you press it. If that doesn't work, then it's a duff switch or solder (kind of sounds like a cold solder joint). There are guides around the internet on how to dismantle the throttle if you're feeling brave. It's a pain in the ass though since you have to partially remove the handle from the base before you can access the handle screws on the underside of the handle.
>take month-long break away from technology
>buy new top of the line gaming PC
>turn it on and realize I've lost my extreme autistic obsession with DCS
motivational videos pls
>>143918334
Play BMS.
>>143918334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMOOOulhME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OguO6CaKjKY
>>143918334
Just go play blue flag. Hanging around aspies like Jester should give you your autism back.
>>143916879
Which LED should flash? The one on the clutch button?
Since I've never actually used clutch mode, I have no idea how it works.
I wasn't using saitek's profile editor before, but I started using it to be able to use the microstick,mouse wheel, mode selector and mouse buttons as programmable buttons, if there is any program that can do that too, I'd switch to it.
>>143918945
So fucking hyped for the F-5E. Any word on weather they'll bother making the T-38?
>>143922894
>wanting ANOTHER trainer
Get the fuck out of here and kill your self.
>>143923057
for once I actually agree with someone posting this
no more trainers in DCS fucking EVER, please.
>>143924163
I'm new, why no more trainers?
are they not useful?>
Post the last screenshot you took in BMS or DCS.
wew
>>143926348
>Digital Combat Simulator
>Trainers aircraft
I think you can put two and two together.
>>143926404
>>143926404
>>143926404
>>143926348
They're the only planes in DCS that actually have less shit to do than WW2 fighters.
>>143926828
They can fight the Vietnam era planes pretty well, though.
refuel ops again when?
Do you boys think Leatherneck is going to fuck up multicrew for the F-14?
>>143927358
>>143927460
I'm not convinced multi-crew even works in the L-39.
>>143923057
B..but you can live the USAF SUPT experience right at your home on your seat infront on your computer if they do make the T-38C
>>143922894
And after I typed that sarcastic reply I realized that there is absolutely no point in wanting it as they wont make the T-38C, as it would require them to program MFDs and etc and thus would be completely different from the F-5E
>>143927614
It barely works.
When switching control between the seats, there's a good chance that one or both of you are going to black out, otherwise lag/desync between the two of you can cause the position of the plane to randomly warp around, through the ground, etc.
>>143927639
>>143922894
>this is a T-38C cockpit
>doesn't look like the cockpit of the F-5E we're getting at all
Would you be mad if you're flying along in your F-15 or Su-27 and next thing you know you're taking an R-60 up the ass from an L-39?
>>143928183
>not pickling your tank off right as you fly over planes on the airfield so it smacks into them like an inert bomb
>>143928195
>and here's the F-5E one that we're getting
>>143928302
>get hit by an R-60
>wtf was that.... I think I hit a bird
>keep flying
not that mad desu
>>143928183
>captain jack
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh I am fucking keking
That sperg gets fucking destroyed in the MiG-21 every time he flies it out. Every time he goes up he cries about how he hasn't gotten a kill yet.
>>143928595
>(you)
>>143929272
>screenshotting your kills because they are so fucking rare
>bragging about killing a literal ace combat player who has been playing DCS for a week
u r so amazing
Kill your self.
>>143929464
t.butthurt blue team player
>>143929272
>killing F22xRaptor
Guy is a literal shitter
>>143929761
>not killing F-15s with shitty-ass R-60m
>using missiles that actually work
fucking pleb
>>143930175
>>143929272
wow amzing ur really gud
>>143929761
Thats a pretty funny image, I wonder who made it??baited :^)
The thread is either bait and responses to bait, or its dead.
>>143934639
>>143926404
>>143926404
Miggers/F-15 desegregation when
>tfw with new DCS update I can finally play DCS MP
>I can finally meme it up with the reds
It feels good, real good.
hi boyz
what are some simg approved movies to get me in the mood for flying
>>143926404
>>143939959
Art of the Killwe are hard working goys, no breaks
>>143926404
>>143941208
there's one in every flight.
>>143939314
what has changed?
>>143820108
It hascontent
>>143940647
Those were the days..
>>143942569
i miss dem bois
apparently they still have eyes everywhere
>>143939314
There's no new update, though.
What's a good setting for external sounds in BMS? It was set to 1 by default and I couldn't hear any at all. Is that realistic?
Here you young whippersnappers, take a look at what real flying looks like. This is a 180HP SPAD VII over the the Reims/Aisne sector of the Western Front, March 1917. Coming home after a spot of hunting in Hunland. The same horsepower as a Cessna 172.
No missiles, no balans))))))), no bias, just the wind in your hair and all the bugs you can eat.
>Inb4 Kite
>Inbb4 go to bed grandpa
Yes yes, we all know you like to suck and blow.
>>143947110
You can't see fucking anything in that cockpit. Fuck the SPAD.
>WW2 Online goes free to play completely for 1 month in June
Da Bois fighter squid?
>>143947742
>not playing KOTH:1944
>>143947916
>ww2 arma
Fuck that clunky piece of shit when RO2 exists.
BMS ops WHEN
>>143947742
Flying in it looks like shit, though.
>>143921937
>>143916879
Now the button working again on the control panel after I restarted my computer (though this doesn't always work).
I tried activating clutch mode on the control panel, and the LED on the 8-way hat and on the clutch button does blink now.
I am not sure if before it would've responded in clutch mode, but I'm tending towards a no.
>>143947230
That's why they call it the French welding goggles.
>>143948112
RO2 has no plens though
>>143947916
KOTH
>le MLG arma game mode
Fucking spastics turning Arma into a twitch shooter. Go back to Cash $trike
>>143948825
Neither does Arma, it has plen shaped objects that defy the laws of physics and logic.
Any one have suggestions on how to get the configuration utility to work for the x52 (not pro)? Drivers supposedly installed correctly, but the joystick icon's control panel never opens when selected. I saw this might be a problem on windows 10, but I'm still on 7.
>>143949290
Nah, saitek utilities and drivers are a pain in the ass to get working.
Go to the madcatz website and get the latest version of each, make sure you follow the instructions precisely.
>>143949454
Sorry, Saitek website.
>>143948924
>Neither does Arma, it has plen shaped objects that defy the laws of physics and logic.
But they're still fun to fly.
>>143950038
Kill yourselfUnless you mean the AH-6
>>143950238
The A-164 Wipeout is the bee's knees. The gun just destroys stuff in high speed dogfights.
so, /simg/
the milsurp fairy comes along and magically grants you one of any military aircraft, current or former service, in existence, with operating costs and maintenance provided by a team of shit-talking slavic elves.
The aircraft retains all the avionics and hardware required to mount weapons, yet has no weapons included (any integrally mounted weapons remain, but are without ammunition)- the milsurp fairy has a lot of pull with the worlds' governments so they're cool with it, but if you want to actually load up weapons on it you have to buy them yourself. Training up to baseline proficiency and instrument rating is also provided for free
what do you choose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmJOiKv4XKw
Just look at how good model visibility is in Arma. You can always spot the planes easily, just like in real life. Why can't "real" sim devs get it right?
>>143951175
GODS PLANE
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>>143951561
They're never far enough away for visibility to be a problem
if they are, they're shrouded in blue fog and you can't see them at all.
>>143951175
>>143951639
damn, that's a great webm
>>143950660
Hey look! It looks just like an A-10, what the hell is it?
>>143951175
>Can't make up my mindF-22A or F-15E or F-18E/F or F-16 or YF-23
>>143952079
It's arma 3's ~near future~ A-10 that's supposed to be stealth but is absolutely retarded
>>143951970
Here, have another night trap webm
>>143909662
>saitek drivers
For the X-52, just don't...
>>143952079
>What is itcancer
>>143926404
>>143951175
Let's try to make this shit more interesting.
The devil proposes you a deal: you get training, maintenance, fuel, storage costs and whatever else paid for you for a lifetime. If you accept, you have to fly the plane you picked at least once every two weeks.The only planes you can pick ar from nazi Germany's emergency fighter program.Do you accept, and which plane would you choose if you accept?
when
>>143952289
Are the night vision formation strips visible to naked eye?
>>143955316
>Germany's emergency fighter program
Ok, I'll take the Do 335. The only semi sane, operationally sound design in the program outside the He-162 (Which would probably fall apart when the wood glue holding it together came under stress.)
>>143955316
Inb4 BLOHM UND VOSS!
BLOHM?
BLOOOOOOOOOOOHM!!!
>>143955915
I'm pretty sure the Pfeil NEVER was part of the emergency fighter program.
Also some of the designs from Messerschmitt that never left the drawing board look okay. Good even.
>>143956125
>The Do 335 was the only piston-engined fighter allowed to go forward under the Jägernotprogramm.
Wikipedia
>>143956813
That doesn't meant that is was part of the program, only that happened to be build while the program was in progress. The first prototype of the Pfeil flew in 1943.
>>143957097
For fuck's sake you obtuse thicko
>On 23 May 1944, Hitler, as part of the developing Jägernotprogramm directive which took effect on 3 July, ordered maximum priority to be given to Do 335 production. The main production line was intended to be at Manzell, but a bombing raid in March destroyed the tooling and forced Dornier to set up a new line at Oberpfaffenhofen. The decision was made, along with the rapid shut-down of many other military aircraft development programs, to cancel the Heinkel He 219 night fighter, which also used the DB 603 engines, and use its production facilities for the Do 335 as well. However, Ernst Heinkel managed to delay, and eventually ignore, its implementation, continuing to produce examples of the He 219A.
You had to make me rub your face in it.
>>143957198
What part of what you just posted says that the Pfeil was part of the emergency fighter program? Fucking none. It was designed well before that fiasco happened, therefore it's not part of it. Deal with it.
>>143957349
Literally the first sentence you ADD cunt.
>Can you even read?
>>143957448
baited
>>143957349
>AS PART OF THE DEVELOPING JAGERNOTPROGRAMM
>AS PART OF
>PART OFJust stop posting, you're wrong.
>>143957557
>I was just pretending to be retarded.
>>143957674fucking baited kid body yourself
>>143957448
>>143957578
Fuck no. It doesn't even have anything to do with the design philosophy of the emergency fighter program, being "throwaway jet with very questionable manufacturing materials and practices". No, you aren't right no matter how you try to twist it, kill yourself.
GUNSHIPS WHEN
>>143957805
>>143957836
Posting from your phone to imitate another contributor and circumvent the post timer just makes you look like a bigger cunt than you were before.
Accept it sonny, you lost.
>>143958126
I didn't make those posts >>143957557 >>143957674 and why the fuck would have I posted that anyway.
>>143958126
>>143958252
>this is youbaited
>hiring a PR firm for damage control on 4chan
kek
t. Harmless
>>143958296
>>143958252
BTFO
>>143958048
I know we'll never get the AH-64D, but certainly the first production model of the Apache must be declassified enough to make a simulation of them at least as good as the M2K
I dunno, ever since I started flying the Fulcrum, helmet mounted sighting systems have been getting me rock fucking hard. I know the Ka-50 has one, but the Shkval is shit and only capable of looking forward. I want to be able to orbit around somewhere, see some durka durka fuck, lock him up with my HMS, and then fuck him up with 30mm all without breaking orbit.
>>143958048
They should have been the focus from the start, helos are the one undeniable strength of the DCS series.
>harmless getting bootyblasted in the thread yet again
What a surprise.
>>143958902
They kind of were- DCS Black Shark is what started this whole shitshow as far as full systems modelling and clickable 'pits go.
It's really depressing, no other game does helos even close to how well DCS does (I've heard X-plane does helos kind of okay but it's got FSX-tier systems modelling and content structuring), but DCS has so many fucking faults (shitty ground damage modelling, shitty AI FMs, REALLY SHITTY netcode and MP optimization, no dynamic campaign, really weak mission editor)
so it's like, do you want your helicopter to actually handle somewhat realistically and have systems modelling worth a motherfuck, or do you want actually fun game design?
>some forumcucks would actually prefer the T-38 to the F-5
What is wrong with these people.
>>143959304
because custard t-38 is cool
>>143959396
It's a supersonic abomination.
>>143959484
>T-38 is rather rubbish......
>Excuse me, I have to go do the dishes.
>>143959664
Steel Armor is allowed here innit? I know it's not 100% full fidelity but it's basically the best tank game you can get without paying ridiculous amounts for a game that uses fucking physical DRM
Anyway, how the fuck do I tank good? Against any kind of opposition, I'm always left just kind of scanning the horizon looking for threats until BWONG, and then if I'm lucky I'll survive that and start looking for what the fuck shot me until a second BWONG and my crew bails out because the tank's on fire or something
Recoilless rifles always FUCK ME UP because they're next to impossible to see from a distance unless they're set up right in the open, and there's usually enough in the way of infantry around them to keep friendly infantry from storming the position for a good while. So am I supposed to just hold back until the grunts win their fight and kill the fucks on the AT, or what?
>>143959275
They should have picked one thing and done it well. The Ka-50 and the UH-1 are samples of what could have been. Imagine Gunship2000/Comanche vs Hokum but with Blackshark level simulation fidelity. This could have been our destiny...
What we got was VEAOThis is why the suicide hotline employees and I are on a first name basis.
>>143959849
>So am I supposed to hold back?
How is the alternative working out for you?
>>143912602
>3man matchplay
>I had already removed Teejay
>You were on my 6
>Gets a fucking lucky papa shot that disables my gun
>proceeds to overshoot me in scissor fight
>"i rekt you m8"
Call me back when you dont turn onto fishbeds noses
>>143959852
For what it's worth, I do enjoy the fixed wing stuff in DCS, and fixed wing aircraft have a wider appeal which is important for any business looking to make money in a market as small as the study sim market, but yeah. It boggles the mind to see how little we have in the way of rotary wing.
Not having multicrew isn't an excuse- AI gunners are implemented on the UH-1, so certainly it couldn't be that hard to implement an AI gunner in something like the Cobra or the Hind. Having him in charge of multiple weapons, or more advanced weapons that require some systems management like hellfires or TOWs might be an issue, but it seems like it'd be an easily surmountable issue.
But no, instead of spending time developing a helo gunship, ED spent their time developing a trainer with no fucking thrust output at all.
>>143960119
>It boggles the mind to see how little we have in the way of rotary wing.
Cost and complexity. Study sims already aren't cheap to make.
The BST devs were talking about this on the Russian forums. Saying how much more complicated helicopters are than conventional aircraft and how gunships like the hind are even worse.
>>143960004
That just feels like I'm not supporting the infantry as I should be- just halting my group and waiting for the infantry to win a hill or something without even lobbing an HE to help them out feels like shit
I guess I could try just going around them, but then I'd be driving for twenty minutes and I'd probably just run into another AT nest.
The desert is fucking boring as a map, too- there are hardly any good hull down positions, everything is so fucking flat.
>>143821380
>not HOTAS
?
>>143960297
even with regards to the ka-50 I was under the impression that it was only possible to make the module because ED had also worked on the actual military grade training software for it. I merely read this somewhere online thouigh so that may just be conjecture
>>143960408
neat, but I couldn't find this on their site.
>>143960623
>because ED had also worked on the actual military grade training software for it.
I wouldn't be surprised, the Akula is obscure as fuck and ED are definitely in bed with the Russian military.
>>143960314
You can't support the infantry from a pile of smoking slag m80.
>>143960754
So basically, I have to cower behind a hill until the infantry overrun the AT?
What about other stuff? I have a pretty hard time spotting just about anything unless I'm fighting from the defense, able to go hull down in a tank trench or something and just watch for movement.
>>143960297
Weren't they bitching and moaning about how few people bought the Mi-8 and they put the Hind on the backburner also because of that?
>>143960974
They think the hind won't sell well because Mi-8 sold worse than the Hueygreat logic that BST...but the hind has been frozen for ages now. If you want a project that is really on the back-burner see their Cobra, it'll join the F-16 as the DCS analogues to Duke Nukem forever.
>>143960852
That's their job, to clear AT that you can't safely engage. The support between tanks and infantry is mutual.
The British system divides tanks into two categories, infantry tanks and cavalry tanks. If you're working with infantry you probably have to fall in with the slower, heavier infantry tank style.
>>143960974
No surprise there. The Mi-8, ie "Boring Slavshit: Helicopter Edition", If they'd made a Loach they'd be squatting in their gold embossed adidas tracksuits and drinking the really expensive vodka right now.
>>143960974
>>143961115
>hind
>an iconic helo that every teenaged fuckface thinks is the best gunship ever
>won't sell well because an aircraft it shares parts commonality with that nobody gives a fuck about didn't sell well
>>143961115
So Yandex translate wasn't shitting me. If I could be bothered with cancerous forums I'd PM every single member of BST that screenshot from Metal Gear Solid and also screenshots from Rambo.
>>143961206
>>143961203
The Mi-8 is actually a pretty fun helicopter to fly in combat. It can carry like 120-something rockets.
>not loading up every external pylon with S-8s and then rolling in on a convoy while pumping the doom theme through the intercom
>never ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-E4lcO00Ao
>>143961385
Sure but compared to a...
AH-6
AH-1
AH-64D
Hind
Eurocucktor Tiger
Westland Lynx
Bell 47
...It's about as exciting as my shriveled dick on a winter morning.
>>143961580
>Bell 47
Now you're just blatantly trolling.
>>143961756
Not even trolling, it's an iconic airframe and they're very tricky to fly. Doing CASEVAC in a 47 would be pretty harrowing work in DCS.
So how butthurt would all of you be, if they decided to finish up the "A" model of the Apache and not giving a fuck about the Longbow?
>>143962220
It's still a million times better than no Apache at all.
>>143962220
I'd be totally fine with that. The longbow is probably still classified as fuck.
Plus, A model Apaches are more maneuverable and nippy thanks to reduced avionics weight.
>>143962220
Not bothered at all, I'd be over the moon.
>>143962220
Oh jeez, what if that's what ED have been developing multicrew for...
>>143962220
What's the webcam for?
I'm assuming that's some kind of bullshit for aiming the gun?
>>143962472
Probably for tracking the IHADSS.
>>143962472
Head tracking probably yeah.
>>143961580
>Says it's unexciting
>lists retarded helicopters
>hovering out of ground effect with a sling load and managing descent rates to keep out of VRS
flying slicks is fun as shit. I need to run some hot LZ exfil missions and shit.
also kind of wish the UH-1 had the more common weapon mount system where the miniguns/4xM60 are on the same hardpoint as the rockets. The flex mounts just look fucking weird.
>>143929769
Everyone who names themselves after a plane is.
>>143929464
that's not even me you fucking retard
>>143964170
>Is a cunt
>Shitposts frequently
>>143960074
all according to plan :)i didnt even know that papa hit
ok roshy yourebetter than meat dogfighting, i admit it
>>143962220
;_;
When will ED bring it back?When will we get a Fulda Gap map?
>>143962220
I'd honestly be quite pleased if it returned to existence.
>>143961580
>>143961756
I don't think these kids are ready for a Bell 47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5v6R6Ne6bY
That lighting really puts me off the game for some reason, you can't see anything clearly, everything is there but not there.
>>143969037
The lighting is awful, real life isn't that grey, nor is there specs of crap all over your vision in real life.
>>143969037
BUT IT'S EARLY ACCESS....
>>143958432
>>143958943
>3 hours ago
>when I was dead ass asleep
Hello?
Explain?
>>143969623
Get baited XD
>>143969623
Don't worry senpai people shit talked me at 2AM when I wasnt around to defend myself. fags won't come and say it to your face
>>143969623
>caring
>>143969623
How does it feel to get fucked in the ass by Jester?
>>143952260
>redesign A-10
>exposed turbofan blades
>stealth
>since we're being retarded, let's keep the TISL
>>143973643
It was a dude named toxic that sent the screen shots. Not even the guys we were fucking with lol
>>143950660
What were they thinking...
>>143974201
>implying a stealth version wouldn't be amazing
>>143974336
>implying that thing looks remotely stealthy
>>143974408
It's basically like an F-22.
>>143960721
It's true, we got the A-10C for the same reason as well.
What kind of DCS ops would you guys like?
I have a night B-52 raid set up, but I want to make some more.
Hit me with them hot ideas. Be advised I'm pretty new to.mission building.
>>143975554
Organized, detailed briefings, include waypoints, unpredictable or cunning AI.
Basically BMS style missions but with different aircraft and IFF.
>>143962220
Over the moon, there's no way on earth we'd be getting the longbow anyway.
>>143975703
>AI
Blyat. DCS AI is shit, not much I can do about that.
Would people be open to the idea of PvP ops?
>>143975989
BMS PvP ops WHEN
>>143975989
>DCS AI is shit,
So is BMS, they just get given intelligent waypoints and SAMs don't act like total idiots. It's perfectly possible to do.
>>143976119
And they know how to properly enage you in BVR, as well as BFM.
The first time you merge with an enemy MiG or Flanker in BMS, DCS AI will forever be shit in your mind.
>>143976035
It'd be possible, but easier to set up in DCS. Just some simple shit, like 4 MiG-21s vs 2 A-10s with their 2 Mirage escorts.
>>143976119
T.butthurt shitter that gets rekt by 21`s
>>143976312
>And they know how to properly enage you
More like they know how to properly dive into the ground nose first.
>turn RATE vs turn RADIUS
Why is rate often better to have? How do you exploit a turn rate advantage?
>>143977153
>that ARH shot into a fight
You naughty, naughty boy.
>>143977153
>this same webm every thread
lol
>>143977234
Operational accident)))one of harmless's many team kills early on in BMS
>>143977153
How many times have you done that ?
>>143977393
I don't try to pull dumb loops close to the ground.
How is dtg flight school? Specifically for someone interested in trying a flight Sim?
>>143977803
Just buy the F-15 for DCS. Fuck gay ass civilian sims.
>>143977803
I'm not sure what it offers over shit like FSX desu.
>>143977342
His first sortie
>>143977892
Dcs?
>>143977982
He's being factious, but he's right that if you're interested in combat flight sims you should just skip DTG flight school.
>>143977912
It looks way better as it's 64-bit and the flight school aspect seems appealing to a person who's never played before
>>143977982
DCS World, man. The leading modern military flight sim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqk3ya_lPAM
You can get the plane for 10 bucks and start fucking dirty russkies up with amraams.
>>143978101
I guess it depends if you want to have a game play the role of a flight school. Most people just jump straight into what they're interested in and rely on it's in built tutorials.
>>143977920
Bodied.
>>143978154
I'm not currently in possession of a flight stick so not really fancying a full blown military sim, would be playing with keyboard and mouse
>>143978154
wow the old dcs trailers look shit
>>143978265
Just go buy a cheap one. Boring civ sims are even more boring than usual with keyboard and mouse.
>>143978265
Then you'll probably be fucked by any game really.
A $30 stick opens up a lot of sim options for you, since flying any sim with flight models worth their salt is *very* hard with keyboard.
>>143978401
>A $30 stick opens up a lot of sim options for you
A shitty 30 bucks stick might end up with being a regret. Get a fucking TM16000M.
>>143978490
desu I thought that was $30, oh well close enough.
>>143978554
My 35 dollar Attack 3 has served me well for years.
>>143977803
>>143978101
Froogle did a first impressions on his yout tube channel. It looks shit.
>>143979413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_OhpZbFyVI
Wow, this looks shit. Even BMS is prettier than this.
>>143980336
Those engines really are teeny.
>>143980952
As expected of purposed cruise missile engines.
So is Flight School a vertical slice of next Flight Simulator? Is the engine good?
>>143984764
>tfw no MiG-23-98
>tfw no MiG-21-93
>tfw no MiG-29M
kill me now
>>143952591
Huh? Don't you mean the software?
>>143952591
How do you use the little mouse on the throttle without the drivers?
>>143986356
>>143986386
Hivemind
>Huh? Don't you mean the software?
I've only had bad experiences with it personally, I'm not saying it's the source of your problem and yes you lose the crappy ministick but I got on fine for years without any Saitek software.
>>143986386
Don't bother with the little mouse thumbstick piece of shit.
It'll be broken within a year and you'll be setting deadzones in the driver's control panel just to prevent your mouse cursor from randomly hiking across the screen.
>>143991501
How far to paradise?
>>143991501
The one prototype that would be perfectly welcome in DCS imo.F-16 can fuck a rake.
>>143992607
The 25T in DCS is also a protoype.
>>143992829
So is the Ka-50, and? People still get pissy over obscure prototypes.
>>143992921
>So is the Ka-50
I'm positive that the Ka-50 did enter limited production, therefore it's really not a prototype.
>People still get pissy over obscure prototypes.
And they're not wrong. I for one am completely against memeplanes such as the Horten 229, but I'd also still like to see the Tigershark and similar things in DCS. The Komet is a weird issue though.
>>143964478
The way it's set up is a lot better for weight and balance and keeping the COG forward
Have you donated yet?
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=167780
>>143989039
>>143986543
Thanks for the advice. I guess I just got greedy moving from a 3d pro to the x52 and was reveling in having everything bound. Best to dream small, I suppose.
>>143998889
>people enjoy getting cucked
Fuck off
BMS ops WHEN
>>143998889
>>143999349
All we need is for 300-400 people to see this and get cucked, and then we all get it for free.
>>143998889
>no counter for how much has been donated
inb4 "so close to the target now guys, just donate a bit more!"
>inb4 this guys runs away with money
This is why you need to stay sucka free.
Is this da Boyz forum?
>>144001218
No, this is a rotorcraft image posting board. Post rotorcraft or leave.
>>144001572
desu
>>144001218
Who ?
>>144001893
The idiots who got banned from bf.
I want my apology harmless.
>>144001740
>>144002039
Get fucked nerd
>>143785653
>finishes the ground radar tech
DCS has no ground radars?
>>144002295
Lolno, it never had it as nothing that is in it has it IRL. Nope, not even the Ka-50.
>>144002039
>>144002215
>>144001218
>>144002039
>>144002558
Kill yourselves.
>>144002215
Your clan is shit and you have no skill.
Come back when your top ace of dcs and have 3 red flag MVP wins. Your the cancer that is killing dcs, your pushing all the skilled players from blueflag because they now hate the community.
You deserve your ban you child.
>>144003223
So where are you now?Are you crying in your little corner because you cant spam your 120s and getting shat on by mig21`s?Get bodied you fucktard or ill datalink your mom.
>>144004607
16 year old
U N D E R A G E
Wew lad it's Greg trip all over again.
Also report this nigga. Jack got banned for the same thing this idiot is doing
>>144004607
>>144003223
t. guy who has never taken off in anything but F-15
>>144005161
I killed harmless in an A-10C because he is shit.
Nice try though.
>>144005278
>Things that never hapened
>>144005658
Please stop this.
>posts roughly a minute apart
fucking body this nigga mods
>>144006331
do your duty and report.
I know I have.
>>144006331
Spoiler: the person that is making all those shiposts is the same person that sees the reports.
>>144000340
>inb4 30k dollars.
Lets just abandon the thread.
Let the one autist die with it. Who gives a fuck.
>>144006538
B...b..but those are F-15Es
>>144009029
WHEN
>>144009029
sowey
>>144007883
>Wow guise I can't be bothered to ignore shitpost, abandon the thread, I'm a huge faggot
Just leave if you can't handle it, but don't act like a retarded faggot.
>>144009707
Wow, don't need to be so rudebait spotted
simg went downhill as soon as the subposters stopped posting.
>>143977153
>Just as stupid as a real person
>>144010743
No?What you see is complex AI at work.The migger died because he knew that the slammer has a better chance at killing the falcon than himself.He died for best korea.
>>144010629
Nigga shitposting like this has been done since the first /simg/ thread.
If your a such a cuck that you can't handle some shitpost, then fuck off back to hoggit. Your crying is more annoying than the shitposting.
>>144011019
>Nigga shitposting like this has been done since the first /simg/ thread.
Lolno. The only shitposter in the first thread was a legitimate retard, not some inbred fuck purposefully stirring shit up.
>>144011240
>Implying Greg didn't shit thread up day 1
Back2hoggit4u
Why aren't you playing the flavor of the week KOTH:1944. It's as if you don't want to travel back in time and experience the chaos that was WW2.
>>144011546
No he didn't, and you can even see it by yourself in the archive. Kill yourself, please.
>>144011651
>Waaaaaaaa shitposting needs to stahp
>Shitposting
Take your own advice. You seem to be legitimately retarded
>>144011614
>chaos that was WW2
>in arma with 3rd person view
not likely
You guys aren't being the people Uncle Sikorsky knew you could be
Body
>>144014543
Let
forking FC3/Bluefag players into their own general when
>chopperfags never shitpost
>il2fags never shitpost
>tankfags never shitpost
>boatfags never shitpost
>bmsfags do shitpost but they also post good shit often enough to counteract it
what's your excuse?
>>144015447
Bluefags are also bmsfags
>>144015447
>>chopperfags never shitpost
>>il2fags never shitpost
>>tankfags never shitpost
>>boatfags never shitpost
None of these people actually exist.
>>144011614
>arma
Yeah, no. I'd play IL-2 if I wanted to fly shitty WW2 planes. At least that game actually has flight models.
Gimme some ideas for PVP DCS ops.
>>144018042
>Combined arms
>>144018042
helicopter ops with required landing on boats
>>144011614
>That gunsight placement
WEW LAD
>>144018042
something actually vaguely objective-based instead of just airquake
like, escorting strikers into an area, running BARCAP, something like that.
also yeah combined arms would be cool. is CA worth buying or nah
>>144018042
Maybe a realistic scenario that isn't half baked fantasy derived for the purpose of MUH BALANS)))))
Gulf War
Gulf War 2.0
MiG Alley Korea
>>144018637
>BLUFOR has to kill a high value target in a night raid in heavily-defended territory, potentially with civilians nearby so precision weapons are a must
>REDFOR must defend their VIP with old ass SAM systems controlled by players, a few MiG-29s, and MiG-21s that respawn in waves
>all happens at night
>no AMRAAMs
bueno
>>144018572
> is CA worth buying or nah
I don't know it can be really fun in MP, but no server runs it because it causes lag, it's really underutilized, and if you play game master it makes the game so much more fun for the other players.
Of course as long as you aren't a shitter and understand that it's your role to make things fun and challenging instead of putting everything in a forest.
Some of the most fun i've had in DCS is when there's an enemy CA player.
However it should only be bought on a sale, otherwise it's not worth it, not to mention it should really be free.
Combined arms is kind of garbo though. I'd rather use the aircraft, and even then I'd rather use more full fidelity modules over FC3.
Ideas I've had:
-Mirages/MiG-21's escorting A-10/Grachs's to a target area that is defended by Mirages/MiG-21's.
-Swarm of MiG-21's attack an AWACS with its two F-15 escorts.
>>144018969
Nigga that is what I am talking about.
We need someone better than me to make these mission, but I can try.
I just want some competition that isn't 104th bullshit. Real objectives, with real players on both sides. I think it would be popular, fun, and give people bragging rights and shit to talk about in these threads instead of the shit hole we have now.
-
RAZBAM's making a Mirage III
>>144019818
Oh shit nigga. That's nice, but I'm not surprised in the slightest.
>>144019352
That mission wouldn't be that difficult, desu. Just throw some player-controlled SAMs in, set up a distinctive-looking car on REDFOR's side to be the target (set up a trigger that ends the mission when its killed or when it reaches a 'safe zone' area and is still alive), populate BLUFOR with whatever aircraft (mirages work if you don't want to use eagles), give REDFOR their MiGs (desu you have to give them at least fulcrums, MiG-21 v. Mirage-2000 isn't a fair fight in the least, and the precedent is there for shithole countries having MiG-29s anyway), set up something to check every so often to see if a MiG-21 group populated by a client is dead, and if so respawn them all in a wave (this part might be hard, I've never done wave-based respawns in DCS)
BLUFOR would need 25Ts for SEAD (You could conceivably just give them A-10s or Mirages with bombs and tell them to wild weasel it, but against player controlled SAMs that'd be insane), and having something like the A-10C would be nice because TGP with FLIR. If we're willing to bend timelines for accurate equipment (and we should, DCS's roster is too gappy to say "we can't use this because it didn't exist at this time"), you could throw in a UAV to lase the target to make acquiring it easier. It could also be stated in the brief that it's operated by the CIA so that the entire mission can devolve into baneposting.
>>144020454
>set up something to check every so often to see if a MiG-21 group populated by a client is dead, and if so respawn them all in a wave (this part might be hard, I've never done wave-based respawns in DCS)
You need to script for that, it's a pain in the ass.
>>144020854
Can you not just set up a trigger on a timer or something to check to see if a group is dead?
I dunno if you can do timers with the trigger system, but you could just set up a unit with an endlessly repeating loop of waypoints, set it invisible and immortal, RoE weapons hold, do not react to threats, and set a very small trigger zone on one of its waypoints to make a ghetto timer.
>>144018969
>no AMRAAMs
The blues would get fucked in the ass then. The Aim-7 just isn't a very potent weapon at all.
>>144021146
The editor has timers, you can't block people from slotting into stuff by default.
>What other deltas do you have in mind?
>probably a Kfir after the M-III, by the same author
GET HYPE
>>144021237
>implying the Russian ones are.
Get a load of this guy
>>144021237
>>144021573
>AIM-7
>bad
the AIM-7 is basically just a sidewinder with better range, if you can get good aspect you can fuck people up with it
Also, the blues would likely have access to the Mirage as well, and the 530D is fucking god-tier.
>>144021146
>>144021404
Actually just checked they've added new functionality, one of them seems to be a player seat lock, but no idea how it works.
>>144021695
>the AIM-7 is basically just a sidewinder with better range
Just stop posting senpai.
Two completely different types of missiles one of which is just as shit as R27ER (AIM-7M) and one that is fucking god teir(AIM-9M)
>>144022362
it's not my fault you're bad with sparrows
they're quite effective if you hold them in reserve until after the merge and just use them for shots that are too far for a sidewinder to be able to make without being easy to dodge.
>>144023290
> reserve until after the merge
sorry what?
>>144023290
My combat effectiveness with the AIM-7m has nothing to do with anything we are discussing. AIM-7M in DCS can be defeated with simple chaff spam, you don't even need to maneuver. This is common knowledge to anyone who fly's air quake and actually knows what they're doing. R-27ER is actually in my opinion is a little stronger, as chaff spam wont save you,maneuvering is required. But regardless both missiles are shit and they really shouldn't be, but yet again as we all know DCS has fucked missiles.
t.GODS PLANE SPECIALIST
how pissed would you be if BST made the Mi-24P instead of a version with the actual turreted gun
>>144024496
I wouldn't be surprised. We get cucked with shit versions of aircraft all the time. All they need to say is OMG ITS TOO HARD TO FIND INFO ON THE VERSION OF THE PLANE HERE YOU GO HAVE THE SHIT VERSION INSTEAD.
>>144024748
No there was a discussion about this.
it was.
>HURR DURR you wont be able to kill anything with the mingun it's only .50 cal
It was said by people that have never tried hitting thing with the ka-50 with a bore sighted gun.
>>144024748
Now I'm actually really fuckin curious about how the sighting system for the Mi-24's gun works
all google-san can show me is the fuckin pilot's sight glass
>>144024989
I like how that's wrong on several levels, though
The UH-1's guns kill shit fine. I've popped a fucking T-55 with sustained fire to the engine deck before and it's fucking 7.62x51
The Mi-24's gun also isn't "just fiddy cal", it's 12.7x108, which is a decent bit bigger than the FIDDY BEE EMM GEE at 12.7x99.
>>144025320
not only it is wrong on that, you wont hit jack shit with the 30mm.
>>144024496
>>144024748
>I'm still hoping for a ka-50N or a ka-50Sh
I just wanted to do night missions.
>>144025526
>They said it was too hard to get info on the M2000D
>So we got cucked and got the shit fighter version M-2000C with mig-21 tier a2g capability(it's actually worse)
>BMS has a M2000D
So guys what plane or heli version did ED cuck you out of?
>DCS has planned multi-crew vehicles
>with that shit fucking netcode
Lmfao I can't wait to see how horrible it is.
>>144025845
>>BMS has a M2000D
With F-16 systems.
>>144025845
The mirage will actually be kind of baller for air to ground once we get the fucking CCRP auto-release shit. As it is, it's impossible to accurately drop an unguided bomb because you have a split second window to drop the bomb in, and you're going to do it either late or early
>>144025452
>>144025320
>>144024989
Later models of the hind apparently had a 23mm gun. Dunno which particular variants, wikipedia is shit.
>>144025019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWKadS01204
now sure how realistic this is, but it looks the part
>all those missiles that just fail to guide
>>144026087
>all those missiles that just fail to guide
Those were rockets anon, Arma doesn't have the ability to make missiles fail to guide.
>>144026087
>now sure how realistic this is, but it looks the part
>arma
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>144019818
I thought they said the Mirage III was off the table?
If this is true, it's awesome, the more 60's and 70's jets we get, the better.