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Dogposting and gallente catgirls edition.

permalink: http://orph.link/eog

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>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/t9Af7NJY
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
>Winter: new "drilling platforms"
>Fall: new "industrial arrays", barge reworks
>Summer: AOE BOOST/LINK REWORK, citadel iterations + contracts, Rorqual rework
>May 31: Old camera being removed
>May 30: Dust 514 shutting down (long live Project Nova)
>May 24: SP Dailies

Ongoing:
>May 20: PL Fortizar on Goon's Saranen undock

Past:
>May 19: HK anchors first XL Citadel
>May 16: Stunt Flores now Imperium FC
>May 12: You can name ships automatically with a saved fit's name now
>May 06: Eve Online 13th Anniversary
>Apr 27: Citadels & cap rebalance released. Tears, bugs, etc. RIP rolling yachts.
>Apr 25: Eve players contributed 167 years of work to Project Discovery
>Apr 23: Fanfest 2016 over
>Apr 21: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm-11-election-results/
>Apr 19: GSF camped into Saranen
>Apr 10: Drone Walkers doing some crazy stuff in the Russian theater
>Apr 12: GSF absorbing Imperium corps; FCON + SMA bail
>Mar 28: CFC is dying. CO2 reset. IWI funding the MBC to burn down goons
>Mar 18: Guristas Hunt event (Shekel Madness: 3D)
>Mar 09: Project Discovery launched + massive mod tiercides that broke a lot of fits.
>Feb 18: Last CSM X Summit: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-second-csm-x-summit-meeting-minutes-included
>Feb 09: SP trading
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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hey guys there is a new /eog/ channel called Avada's Tears. y'all should check it out, this channel is more of a seriousfag channel, mostly talking about WH life, posting dank frags, and much more.

come chill with Tengoo guys and a few retarded memers like maquari (he behaves in that channel tho).

any way come check it out, kick back, and chillax with some v-bros. I'll catch ya on the flip side.
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Why is the EVE community so hostile to new players and the idea of experimentation, they just hook new players up with a meta for 1 ship and if he doesn't do that then they troll the shit out of him or become passive agressive immediatelly.

What the fuck is wrong with the EVE community?
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Reminder that Reyni will be forced into becoming a Mandelore's catgirl maid with a feminine penis
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>>143703269
Because after you act nice to 100 guys and teach them all you know, giving them all your knowledge and out all your effort, and then it turns out 5 of those 100 people actually stick around and maybe 1 out of those 5 turns out to be not an inconsiderate asshole, you start to get really jaded towards helping new players and just say fuck it.
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>that one new player who is visibly retarded
>acts passive aggressive the moment you suggest something

Why are all new EVE players so shit? Do they all come from reddit and something awful?
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sounds like maquari
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>>143703967
Literally Arumba and all his gang of faggiots did this.
I'm glad he quit.
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every post in this thread is made by maqaroni, even this one
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>>143704157
Fuck off maqaroni
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How do I become a good Burst pilot?
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>>143704256
you can't stop me, I will have my pepperoni
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>when u mining and someone warps into the asteroid belt
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>>143704320
I'm gonna fill up with my Negroni
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I spoke to maquari on comms once, dude literally sounds like your average aspie.
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Maqari is a real girl!
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You'll ask this guy to sit on your face too.
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>>143704324
>when he doesn't warp out after all 150 drones start attacking him
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>>143704324
>When you're mining and a catalyst warps in
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>>143704324
>when u lurk chan and someone posts twitter garbage
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Why does everyone in EVE make edgy looking, autistic, cringy characters followed by a neven more cringy and edgy biography of random LE EPIK FUNNEYY CONVOS and all the shitty kills they have including some obsecure quote by some philosopher?
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anyone have a run down of the current politics that don't revolve around goons
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Reyni and Maqari have a son.
Whats his name and special power?
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>everyone

I don't. your post made me le cringe though
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Slutteroni
He can shove a really large pepperoni up his ass and dress like a girl
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>>143704897
His name is Thom Mangum and his special power is flying amarr ships.
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Daily reminder, NO BIAS EDITION
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>>143704789
>everyone
No
>why
Some people haven't touched their bios in years, all their edgy teen shit is still there.
There are people in their 30s that started playing this shit game when they were like 17
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>>143705109
So they're all shit.
Why can't I be born as an slighly edgy angel cartel memer
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>no bias
>pol memes
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>races don't matter in this game

what the fuck is the point of playing then?
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Actual and correct depiction of the eve factions.

Brutor degenerates do not bother to respond.
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>it's even worse
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What kind of ship would I need to do L4 missions or join incursions?
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>flying more than one race

Into le trash etc
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>>143705556
>>143675804
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>>143705791
how will you fly your meme-tier pirate ships like a good f1 babby pleb though
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>>143705556
they do matter
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>>143705873
>be minmatar
>fly amarr
Checkmate atheists and christians
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In FW you can now only fly ships of your race. What would change?
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>>143705776
Almost any Battleships for incursons.
Google warptome fits, 1st link.
Logi cruisers also work.

Nightmare, Mach, decent drone skills Rattlesnek, Maelstrom, very good drone skills Dominix, Marauders for L4s.
Anything else is too slow and not worth it when you could be doing incursions.
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>>143705945
>not nefantar
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>>143706127

it would actually make sense
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>>143706127
It would actually reveal all fotm faggots for what they are.
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>>143706127
Fun but unbalanced.
Would cause a lot of racial tension which would be real fun.
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>>143706127
it would be absolutely fucking awesome.

On that topic, a corporation should be only able to fly a race that they are forced choose. Uniformity in fleets are so fucking satisfying.
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>A fleet full of proud Caldari warriors flying through the stars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8D3epKRfuk
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>>143706128
Thanks, I'll take a look now. I don't really have an interest in flying battleships or Logi though, and I'm ridiculously far away from T3 cruisers.

But I take it those are really the only things that are good enough?
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>>143707232
For incursions?
Yeah battleships and logi cruiser, T3Cs are a very limited job for drone bunny.
That's it.

For L4s also yeah only battleships are optimal, some battlecruisers and even cruisers can clear the missioms but it will be very, very slow and easy to die in certain missions.

You could try FW plexing if you want to keep flying small ships.
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>Reyni
>implying Maqari is not the superior slut
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>>143709118
Nice picture of Maq
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>>143707842
Would the battlecruisers that fit battleship weapons work for any of that? Or do they just not have the tank?
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>>143706510
>Uniformity in fleets are so fucking satisfying.
I hope you mean style uniformity, like same race ships only.

Because a fleet uniform, in the way that there's only one hull type, looks like shit.
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>>143709762
Work in some missions where you can just stay back or MJD away and snipe but some others will not let your tank stay in grid unless you are shotting long range ammo and doing no damage or you will need to be warping in and out constantly.

They just have no tank.
So you will get cock blocked constantly declining a lot of missions and having to wait for the 4h cooldown.


I heard Drakes can do C3 sites just barely if you're into BCs.
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>or
>and
>and
>or
>and
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>>143711212
Ok so re write it for me please.
English is the 3rd language I learned.
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>>143710816
BC's are actually bigger than what I want to go, but I like the design of a few of them to tolerate them and they use cruiser skills for the most part so I don't have to go out of my way to train for them.

I guess I just need to start doing exploration for more dosh.
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noob here,
exactly how many people would we need to do a high sec incursion of bs's and logi cruisers?
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>>143712628
i think 30 is what they go for

but don't do incursions
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Is the thorax no longer viable anymore?
I saw people posting both blaster n railgun fits last year.
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>>143713783
people don't talk about normal honest ships so much, they prefer to discuss special meme ships and only use T1 ships as industrial components for making meme ships with. it's because they're faggots basically
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>>143706510
IMO, I think corps/alliances should be able to design their own ships. Many of the massive alliances probably have semi-talented modelers to create and release their own designs, and they could have bonuses of their own choosing (Approved by GMs, of course).

Imagine getting a hold of Pandemic Legion brand frigates or Goonswarm ships. Even better, imagine if the alliance goes defunct and no longer has the factories to produce them, how interesting it would be to see people flying ships from factions that don't exist anymore.
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>>143713990
I like the idea, sounds like a balancing nightmare though.
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Reminder that if you join All-Out you will get to personally fly with Reyni. As long as you aren't a shitter she'll also snapchat you trappy lewds.
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>>143707842
I think it's not too bad to do L4s with defensive bonused battlecruisers, most of them can fit the necessary tank to hold their own. Their damage is somewhat subpar compared to a battleship, but they do have the bonus that they can hit frigates better and most don't need you to micro drones about to do so.

T3s can have even better active tanks than battleships, and their damage isn't too much lower either. Still not that great because of the cost and training time though, and if you want to squeeze every ounce of damage out, battleships will still slightly outclass you (And pirate battleships will blow you out of the water).

I wouldn't recommend a Marauder though. Takes for ever to train for, and costs about a billion ISK for the hull, making you a huge gank target, especially because using them to their full potential immobilizes you for one minute at a time. As a bonus though, you do get a long range high tank platform that can salvage during a mission, though if you got it just for the salvaging potential, it'd take you quite a while to recoup their costs.
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>>143713783

thorax is extremely efficient but you have to use it properly

both fits work
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>>143714403
Probably so. And not to mention a giant can of worms. Soon as you deviate from standard ships in game, people are going to claim bias towards certain alliances, no matter what the truth is. Someone could get a frigate with 5% agility/5% laser rate of fire on it, and they'd still probably complain.
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Is the Vindicator useful for incursions, or are they for shield tanked ships only?
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>>143715821
vindicator is very important in incursions
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>>143715821
Its important but its mostly a drone bunny, so they don't want many.
Which could be good or bad depending on luck with the queue.
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>people who use market bots
>they dont set limits to how low they will try to undercut competitors
>tfw baiting bots into selling shit for dirt cheap
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>>143713025
30 of some combination of bs's and logi? hm
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If I want to do incursions, what is the minimum I need if I want to join a pug
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>pug
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>>143719668
This xD I wish I could upvote comments
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>>143719845
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>comments
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Are Amarr ships good yet? I want to fly something using Beams.
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>>143722103
beams are good
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>>143722103
Confessor is pretty good.
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are beams good for pve guys?
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>amarr
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>>143722103
You have to fly everyhing with beams anyways, pulse a shit without optimal bonus, they even suck ass for brawling, only reason you're forced to still use then when brawling is because of amarr has no cap.

Basically amarr has a few ships that excel but the grand majority is terrible at everything.
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>not taking your leopard out for a stroll from time to time
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anyone have a proteus fit for maze escalations
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>>143732502
>le smartbombing man
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>proteus
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>still no arty vagabond
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>>143733280
Theres a few fits that work, one uses the drone subsystem and smart bombs. max tank against therm/kinetic with batteries and stuff to reduce neut effects
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>>143734403

why not senpai
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>>143734820

what about just using an ishtar
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>>143735221
works similarly except no smart bombs
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>not tengu for mazes
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>>143734836
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Dog dont go
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so why exactly are beam weapons really good right now? someone wanna give me the skinny?
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>>143716043
lmao what
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Maqari bent Reyni over the Leather Club table. He knew that this would be his only opportunity to fuck Reyni on this table, the only hour of the day where Kaile was away from it. He ran his fingers down Reyni’s plump and ready asshole. He pulled out his fat, sultry penis, and started trying to force the head into Reyni, but it simply would not fit. ‘HOLE MASSED’, he yelled in anger, alerting Reyni to the issues that the beautiful young Amarrian was having. She took her hipster glasses and put them on, before flipping Maq over in one swift, beautiful yet forceful movement. She looked Maq in the eyes and bellowed ‘Join All-Out’. She started carefully kissing Maq up and down his body and chest with passion, incredible passion. She then let out another dirty bit of sex talk, as he moaned ‘You know, I love Tengoo, but I prefer Oruze Cruise’. As soon as she finished her sentence, she puckered her lips and wrapped them around Maq’s bistot hard yet accepting penis, like Grifter wrapping a stolen tengu in a freight container. She began slurping on the young Amarrian's penis, but before he was even fully erect, Maq’s penis exploded inside of her.
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>>143742340
DPS got better, they already had everything else.
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why does eve university missile page say launcher rate of fire > missile damage rigs, but then for example the raven fits all have missile damage rigs?
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Rating thanatos shield, good idea ?
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Please stop posting degenerate furry shit in /eog/. Post pure humans or elves only.
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Why would anyone want a Gallente catgirl when you could have a superior Amarrian model which knows how to cook, clean, do paperwork, etc.?
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>amarr catgirl
>wakes at 4:00 to pray amarru akbar
>constant bitching about muh god
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>Want to trade some useless SP from my main to a fresh alt
>Skill extractors are 250m

Let me tell your about bullshit.
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furries pls go
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>>143748786
>implying you don't own her and can't make her stop doing that
It's like you're saying all my slaves wake up in the morning to pray too, because Amarr.
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The only reason you'd ever want an amarr catgirl is if you're too much of a lazy retard to cook and pick up after yourself and thus shouldn't even be allowed to be a pod pilot
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>>143749946
>Captain we've jumped into a gatecamp, please disengage the autopilot and perform the cloak MWD maneuver or we'll all die!
>Sorry crew, I'm too busy making myself dinner because anon said you have to cook for yourself or you're not a real capsuleer.
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Animal/monster girls are degeneracy and therefore are illegal.
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Newfag here. How likely am I to die if I try to do Data and Relic sites in wormholes in my Magnate?
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Reminder that you can help mandelore make reyni into a catgirl maid
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>>143751403
80%~
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so i did my first incursion run with WTM it went pretty well i think
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>>143751403
With absolute certainty; don't even try - it's a waste of time. Try mining instead.
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>>143752514
what do you need in order to do an incursion?
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>>143752780
>>143752780
depeneds who you want to fly with

WTM is the newbie community you only need to be able to fly a battleship (T2 shield tank meta guns) or a T2 Logi Ship (Logi 4 T2 Shield Tank)

these are their prefered ships
https://4a03ef9473c44c4c8cd0a28f5a6bf8c75b50ff6d.googledrive.com/host/0B_tALKvH2FWaR19aVkxuRmZwTDA/WTMfittings.html

but on the fleet i was there was a Dominis and a Barghest
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>>143751403
If you're not retarded, not at all.
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>>143752942
what the fuck all of the skills needed to fly one of these is like two or three months of fucking waiting for skills to train
why is this game such a time sink
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>>143753231
>2 or 3 fucking months away
I trained an incursion alt in 1.5 months anon
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could a fleet of these do well?
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>>143753379
how?
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>>143753407
>Blasters
>Fleet
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>>143753231
you should group skills together by attributes (typically sharing a category) and remap accordingly

so, for example, remap for perception and willpower, first you do your gunnery and spaceship command skills

then you remap for memory and intelligence and work on fitting and tank skills

that way you train faster, just be careful with the number of remaps

>>143753474
well, cant they get close to the enemy with the MJD and MWD?
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>not knowing reyni is a goblin
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>>143753231
nobody expects a 1 day newbie to jump into incursions

can you get into Raids in wow as a level 1 ? no? ok

if you downgrade the guns and drones you would get accepted into a incursion just be sure to continue training your supports and your T2 guns so eventually you can fly a pirate battleship
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When will CCP make fantasy races?
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>that one guy in /eog/ who doesn't fly a SFI
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Am I wasting my time trying to do exploration in highsec? All I find are Wormholes.
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>>143757104
>Am I wasting my time trying to do exploration in highsec?
Yes.
>All I find are Wormholes.
Get in, get profit.
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>>143757180
My scanning skills aren't high enough to scan down WH sites. I tried but I can never get past 91%. Maybe when I can afford faction probes I'll have better luck.
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>>143757180
you can put scan upgrades on your ship
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>>143757746
I can't fit them yet.
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>>143757803
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Exploration#Skills
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>>143757803
Yes you can, you will just have a bad drawback
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So when is walking in stations coming?
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>>143758187
Never.
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>tfw you will never walk in a station with a qt goblin called reyni
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>>143753578
>well, cant they get close to the enemy with the MJD and MWD?

You're cute.
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>>143758695
go ahead, educate me
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>>143758782
>surely the other guys won't have MWD
>"but anon, the scram will shut them down!"
>scram and web on the DPS ships
>no shield extenders on shield tanked ships
>logi can't save you because you'll just pop trying to engage an enemy fleet at zero
>shit dps the moment the enemy fleet puts even a little bit of distance

I'm completely fucking retarded about EVE, someone tell me if any of these are wrong.
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>>143758076
10% is not even that bad. With perfect skills you will have like 5%, barely worth the millions of skillpoints you need.
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>>143758076
I just saw I can fit them now. But they're mid slot modules.

Welp, guess I'll have to train for Caldari frigates.
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lol
https://zkillboard.com/kill/54301164/
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>>143759012
well, I wouldnt engage with them blindly, if the enemy can keep us at 30km infinitely then I'd disengage, if they are not in range then they cant stop us MJDing out
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>>143759951
FYI Ferox fleets have railguns. I'm not aware of any popular fleet comps that have blasters, because having a shitty engagement range only hurts you.
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>>143759951
I'm sure it'll go nicely for you

Try this strategy at a small scale with you and a couple friends and report back to us
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>hard knocks
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>>143753407
it's a lot easier to just be a fag and spread everywhere and use massive range railguns than it is to catch people doing that

also your shield buffer fit has 0 shield extenders m8 what are you doing
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4lhci2/chribba_joins_charity_citadel_as_ceo_project_will/

why is chribba joining this shit rather than just pooping out an XL from his own money and doing it all on his own terms
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>Archetype is a professional mercenary group striving for excellence in small gang warfare.
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>Tried a Data site in a wormhole 'cause you guys said I could do it
>Died

Fuck you guys.
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>being a retard and warping to sleeper site
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>>143765381
>muh blog

If you want to do anything in EVE ever, there's a chance you'll die
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>>143765771
I'd like to do something where I have a chance to not die as well though.
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>>143765381
fuck you for not learning to read
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>>143765849
You have a chance to not die in anything you do other than self-destructing and suicide ganking.

You should've done your research.

Ask more questions in-game, and less questions in /dog/ if you want to get anywhere. And google every site you want to do.
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>>143766362
pretty much everyone in /dog/ when talking about data or relic sites in wormholes will mention that they are the pirate ones and not the sleeper ones
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>tried a data site in a wormhole on a few weeks old character
>lived
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>>143766639
Man my character is 6 hours old.
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>>143766726
but that doesnt make any difference
>>
So, who's multiboxing carrier' rating here ?
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>multiple accounts
>multiboxing
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what the fuck is up with the people in this particular general and responding to posts without including any post ids?
i've only ever seen posters in this general doing that
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>>143768685
Don't need post ID's when you're responding to yourself.
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stop arguing guys and lets discuss the best mining setups for players with low amounts of isk okay guys but do not forget that i need some so please send in case i need it but i can t afford to pay back since i am poor and lose svipul in lowsec also do not ever stop mining my friends mining is truly the best i really enjoy it i think ccp needs to buff it rhough since i only earn 2 million isk per cycle can anyone help i think since it is clearly bugged i do not know what to do and i am kind of tired so do not come of as snarky or i will report u to the moderators and they will ban you because i know them irl and know they hate you all sicne they are truly secret miners as well but i think yoi call know this since i essentially control this baord and do not ever forget this just so you know
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>that one guy who quotes
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there is like no need to post ID and quote ID because its fucking uneceesary and are you a newfag because thisis rreally common in other generals i think you are from reddit probably and why does it even annoy you that we dont quote others wow
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>missiles
>DSP

choose none
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>dsp
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>>143769685
>DSP
Time to sleep anon
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>"ratting"
>ISK
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>post ID
>>
join tengoo
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>>"ratting"
>>ISK
explain
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>mining
>income
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>explain
explain
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>my playstlye is the only official elite one and if yuo don't do like me you are bad !!!
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>be new
>join corp
>we set up my "basic skills" skillque
>80 days of training

Cancelled subscription
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>>143770474
>be retard
>quit
>eve is better now
:^)
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>call other peoples playstyle shit because it is shit
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>eve is a pvp game
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>muh playstyle
>muh special opinions and feelings
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OFFICIAL LIST OF WORST TYPES OF PLAYERS IN EVE:

1. Nullsec botters/ratters/mission runners
2. Highsec botters/ratters/mission runners
3. Nullbabby napfest blobbers
4. Lowsec 'elite' link-alt slave set pvpers
5. 'hisec pvp'
6. Miners
7. Industrialists
8. Traders
9. Scammers

9001. Honorabru solo roamers

90001. Small gang NPC sov nullsec/lowsec

900001. C5-6 WH pvpers
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>wh
>pvp
>>
>the year is 2020
>after the fedora neckbeard uprising, eve truly became a pvp game
>now rebranded velators online
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hey guys there is a new /eog/ channel called Avada's Tears. y'all should check it out, this channel is more of a seriousfag channel, mostly talking about WH life, posting dank frags, and much more.

come chill with Tengoo guys and a few retarded memers like maquari (he behaves in that channel tho).

any way come check it out, kick back, and chillax with some v-bros. I'll catch ya on the flip side.
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@143773950
Please stop anon, I believe that could be considered spam
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>@
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>
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If you guys could fix one thing in Eve, what would it be?
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>>143775279
Your pvp skills.
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>>143775279
Delete it
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>>143775279
I'd remove wormhole space
>>
is ecm balanced
>>
>>143775432
Seriously speaking, I would've made wormhole space too dangerous to hang around. Leave wormholes closer to how shattered systems are now, or at least make sleepers actively hunt players going in and out of them.
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>>143775279
>one thing
Not even worth the effort.
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>>143775279
Remove highsec.
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>>143775279
Make multiboxing bannable
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>>143775279
Add catgirls
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>>143778765
Is it the best beard of all time?
>>
>>143778765
this one I actually agree with the most
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>>143778765

>multiboxing unavailable

Just imagine the pvp shitter rage, especially the linkfags and 'highsec' pvpfags.
>>
they should at least add a cat ears accessory, fucking iceland faggots
>>
but what about tail butplugs?
>>
>>143778478

i love how highsec triggers people so fucking hard
>>
>>143775279
Neutral logi in hisec gets concorded.
>>
What would EVE be like if all bounties and missions were paid out in LP instead of ISK?
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>>143780116
How would you buy the LP store items without isk? Actually how would you buy anything?
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>>143780116
Isk would be sunk a lot faster
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>>143780116
I don't think just turning everything into lp is a good solution to the isk faucet shit. everyone is already flying faction everything literally all the time
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>>143780921
That's a good point. LP is pretty inflated as it is.
>>
Looks like there's a Sansha incursion two systems over from me, how do I join a fleet there? I have no prior experience.
>>
does anyone play dust
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>>143781473
you can't, you need to train autism V and buy their special shitfits
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>>143781521
I did a few times. Going to be sad when it shuts down, I had tons of Gunlogi hulls saved up that I haven't used yet. Can't be assed to drag my PS3 out of storage though.
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>tfw dustfags finally btfo
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does anyone know if you can use a memory editor to modify character anatomy beyond normal bounds or change camera position

i need to know so i can make characters with size 44ZZ tits and the camera focused squarely on one of them
>>
idk, does cheat engine work for it?
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>>143782881
I don't know
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>>143782881
From what I was told, yes you can, but when you submit your character to the server, it adjusts it to maximum values.
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>>143783212
surely it wouldn't do that for portraits
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>>143783414
to clarify: i mean for portrait camera position
>>
portraits are cached on your harddrive in a low quality mode and a request gets sent to the server to make a render for the high quality portrait, so yes, it is very probable illegal requests are possible
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>>143783414
I don't know, I haven't tried it myself. Could be changed by now to detect it for all I know.
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>shitposting
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just eat the fish, ur catgirl, dont u love it?
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I'M TRYING TO FIND THE CAMERA POSITION ADDRESSES AND IT'S NOT WORKING


RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>143785819
how do you do that?
>>
>>143785819
Ur going to get banned

Game monitors what hooks into it
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>>143785987
those are from http://webstaff.itn.liu.se/~perla/Siggraph2011/content/talks/69-peers.pdf
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>>143743153
lmao what vindi is only a frigate killer drone whore, never want more than 2.
>>
do bayloader rigs diminish with ballistics control?
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>>143788098
yes
>>
>>143788098
that sux tho
>>
>mittens talking about how goons are winning
>meanwhile goon titan dying and he has no idea about it
>>
I am about to hit 8 bil a month doing nothing, feels pretty good
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>>143793435
Sounds pretty damn low for a month.
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>>143778765
>no more mining fleets
>no more capital alts
>no more cyno alts
>no more link alts
>no more fw alts
>no more market alts
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>>143793435
I stream and not only do I make 50 bill a month, but I also make real money.

get fukt nerd
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>>143752942
>>143753231
>>143753379
>>143753578
Can I fly a drone ship for incursions?
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>>143793435
Meanwhile poorfags like me struggle by grinding for ~300-500 mil a month
I blame myself
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Perfect Proteus WH C3 fit, doesnt it ?
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>>143793435
>mfw 10bil a month just by selling miners sp and keeping themselves plexed
If I actually mine with them 1 hour a day I make like 30 bil in ore pure profit
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>>143794227
Looks a lot like the Proteus fit I used to use for highsec/lowsec DED sites.
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>>143794227
maybe change one of the cap rechargers to a battery and if you can put a remote rep on a high to rep your drones
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>>143794586
wait what
>>
are wormhole corps chill gas huffing comfy doods?
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>>143794749
what?
>>
>>143794896
mining what and how many miners?
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>>143794749
im not that anon but i do the same thing. I have 15 accounts with miners who are maxed out in mining related training, so I extract the SP off of them for about 400mil/month profit for each one just off the extractors (after plexing). Everything I mine goes right into my pocket.
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>>143794620
Was it good ?

>>143794724
Here we are, 51% stable without remote obvsly
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>>143794998
btw I have been starting up a couple of accounts, is isboxer mandatory for mining fleets?
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>>143793870
b-bjorn?
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>>143795139
depends how many accounts you use, and what kind of hardware setup you have. if you're running more than 6 accounts, then definitely.
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proteuses
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>>143793835
Thank you dumbass for listing every single reason to ban multiboxing.
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>>143794993
15 hulks
I don't even know what I mine, a I know spod rocks last the longest and arkonor/bistot/gneiss are also there in the belts.
I usually just mine the closest shit when I set up.
compress it and sell it to corpmates.
>>
J O I N B A K A
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>>143795467
if you're the guy doing this in provi sorry about your enormous freight containers.
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>Cucklente
>Haramarr
>Kangzatar
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>>143793895
1. find incursion community
2. look at their listed fittings
3. see if they have a drone ship listed

or go into their chat and ask in person
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>>143795614
no
I have never has any neuts enter my system while I'm mining, way too out of the way.
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>dealing with the incursion community
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>>143795079
It was good for pretty much any lowsec DED you come across. My fit had a cloak on it though, just so I could get around more easily. Probably better to just use an alt to do all the scouting and stuff though.
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>people that think being in a procurer saves them from ganks
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>mining in my hulk
>a gank happens
>uncloak my 6 falcon alts

Nice try, kid... better luck next time...
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>mining actively enough to notice or care about ganks
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>6 second targeting delay after uncloak

Enjoy saving your hulk wreck
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>mining in my ecm burst + lockbreaker scorpion
>mfw immune to suicide ganks
>>
@143796169

you cant suicide gank procurers its not worth it
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>mining
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>@
>>
>@
>>
>>143796708
Here's your (You)
>>
>>143796169
>mfw hic and cloaky proteus ready to drop a small carrier fleet if someome dares to look at me hulks assuming they dodge the large bubbles set up at 100km from every gate
>>
@143796787
@143796794

WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO QUOTE
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>greentext mumbo jumbo
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so now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that the osprey navy issue is the best navy cruiser?
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>>143796708
>go afk
>afk procurer gang vs elite svipul gang trained in AT 12 hours a day
>all procurers die
>3/4 of svipuls die
>mfw 2bil killed vs 500mil lost
>backup arrives
loot and salvage everything
>800mil from loot
>mfw pvp fags making me money
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>navy issue
>anything
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>frogposting
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>navy issue
>>
>not being tough enough for the navy
>not having 300 confirmed kills in 700 different ways

stay flimsy, kiddo.
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>>143797285
>rr ONI fleet
>>
mining is the backbone of eve economy i am insuly by fact that the player killers in this game would even dare to try to compare their unserious proffesion to the truly thinking mans life dream eve is the has beeen in the forefront of advanced simulation of market data and thanks to countles studies we all know that eve is the best game for this i think ccp should just remove shooting players all together it adds nothing to the game and just generates lost minerals instead we should all just keep building ships forver and make vast loads of them in order to have them this is what i did when i was in all-out but since they stole my medium gun machariel i realize they trylu do not share my dream thus i am also i think that we need to remove system security since concord do not respond in null when my svipul gets ganked by the noctis player using such a ship for a dirty job is truly not pallatable and i thunk u all should reconsider your careeers in eve but that is just my tought even thought i am right so just so you know so stop arguing and lets discuss the best mining setups for players with low amounts of isk okay guys but do not forget that i need some so please send in case i need it but i can t afford to pay back since i am poor and lose svipul in lowsec also do not ever stop mining my friends mining is truly the best i really enjoy it i think ccp needs to buff it rhough since i only earn 2 million isk per cycle can anyone help i think since it is clearly bugged i do not know what to do and i am kind of tired so do not come of as snarky or i will report u to the mdoeratos and they will ban you because i know them irl and know they hate you all sicne they are truly secret miners as well but i think yoi call know this since i essentially control this baord and do not ever forget this just so you know but anyway lets also kill white stag since they are so bad at the game i truly wish goosn would come back so i could use my main to farm guirsatas pirates in deklin.
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>>143797690
>>
I THINK WE NEED TO REMOVE SYSTEM SECURITY SINCE CONCORD DO NOT RESPOND IN NULL WHEN MY SVIPUL GETS GANKED BY THE NOCTIS PLAYER USING SUCH A SHIP FOR A DIRTY JOB IS TRUELY NOT PALLATABLE AND I THINK U ALL SHOULD RETHINK UR CAREERS
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>>143797880
>>
>>143797690
>>
>noctis
>not battle rorq
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>svipul
>>
tengoo navy issue
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>cant use t2 siege
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its not an inadequate pipe
its an aquaduct
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>frigates
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>not frigates
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>undocking
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>shitposting
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>firetails
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>projectiles
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>tripfagging
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>michael chasseur
>revealing your identity on /eog/
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>>143802829
>tripfag shaming
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michael pls go
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>tripniggers
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>being in PL
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i see u trolls have been reposting my last post that i did a couple of days ago i dont know why because i think it was truly informative because it tells u u r are all wrong jsut so u know i am on my shcools honor program and i am very gifted i hope to become like btard and fly tristans in faction ware fare all day but i do not know if i can ever reach that since bnenji stole my spot and i ate him can we please stop posting pictyures btw this is a v good text board but all these images triggers my condition so could you delete them otherwise i would be forcet top stop browse this i do not know even why you do this all i want to do is just play game with you but after i leave slack i do not gain invite again i hope all out learns from mistake and gets rid of all corp thieves i really hate when that happens and could you all take aminute to appricat e the art ccp has in game it is truly amazin and i think we can all take a mnte to not do that byw how do i kilmn noctis i have tried many time s on alt but i do not succed do i ened to scram it to kill it i never thought of this because it warp very slow but who knows mayb eub i just bneed to take more time and plan my tfittings better also if you could send me any people u know that want to play ever i can trial them i need isk p bad after losing my tenf svipul and idk how i would do that but i ned to fly tristan now because much cheaper but it still kill my noctis also can i have some isk btw i need it prettyty bad and i can make it up to yiyu it will be a loan and i will make many isk with industry because i know thow to beat the market so just so you know i know how to win game i make almost a milion isk and hour so just so you know i want you to know that i make win game and thats that all nasty trolls that are on this baord should be ashamaed for hremsesl u kill my joy of life and make me ened to write many long tumblr blog and make it about you all which i hope makes someoen call u and tell you to stop cause top
>>
how do i get a tripname?
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>>143803391
please stop its not even a little funny
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>>143803420
join horde they are free there
>>
>>143803420
you have to stick in 30 dicks in your mouth
>>
>>143803090
>SNIGG
>not BUSA
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>>143803590
>BUSA
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>SNIGG
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why is there no furry tripfag here?
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>>143803954
i haven't seen that approach work in 8 years of this shithole
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>he joined a pl feeder corp
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just filter m8s
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>>143804294
this is the reason why I wish everyone tripfagged by default
being able to filter the cancerous ones and then just convert the names to anonymous.
best of both worlds
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>self moderation placebos
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>>143804524
if you want filters why don't you just go to SA or reddit and let the mods/downvotes do the work for you?
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>amarr
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>he joined a pl slave corp like wiffles or patethic horde
>>
talk about eve faggots
>>
>tripfag thinks hes enlightened internet persona
>>
>>143804676
nothing placebo about completley filtering some faggot like his posts don't existed ever.

and get new catgirl pictures you fuck
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>>143805170
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why are you guys so angry???
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>>143804981

post loss mail
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>>143805002
I'm still waiting for a working arty vagabond fit
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>>143805245
make her eyes green and hair more natural red

>>143805384
implying they get kills
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>nullsec
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snigg
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>kspace
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>avatarfagging
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>daily SP
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>tumblr
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>amarrfags shitposting again
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When will CCP fix all the tedium in this game i am honestly just so fucking tired of how everything in this game has to be so mind numbing like take mining for example you shoot at a rock with a laser and 30 minutes later you have 2 million worth of ore like how the fuck do you expect pppl to make a living off mining when you are getting such a pitance after spending like 45 frikkin minutes literally doing nothing but starting at a screen and the fucking cherry on the top is the fact that you are expected to fucking shit in front of the screen for those 45 minutes otherwise you risk getting ganked if you are in high sec oooooh and lets not talk about mining enywhere else like in lowsec or nullsec of wormhole space like what the fuck is the point of this this shit is fo kfucking broken everything in this game is broken and then there is scanning like holy fuck yeah if you live in wormhole space you are literally gonna scan for about one to two hours before you find a connection that leads to empire space so you ca go sell your shit and import stuff and lets not even tlak about how you will never find a target to kill in wormhole because no one fucking lives there no one wants to live there holy fuck this game is so nbroken
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>>143806335
>daily SP started
>contemplate warping Nyx to asteroid belt
>don't wanna be that guy
>but 10k LP
>DBRB in local
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>requirements: be on teamspeak at all times
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>fleet undocks without TP V bellicose
>gets dunked
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Remeber when people only pretended to be retarded?
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>caldari
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>mining in null in my ibis
>gank comes in
>uncloak my 12 alt avatars
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>>143806902
>Remeber
>retarded
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>10% reduction in Capital Energy Turret activation cost
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@143806502

2 millions per cycle yes mining is broken you cant even fit 2 mining lazers on procurer this game is shit and how do you supposed to make money on EVE online with mining? well now u cant ...
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This game is fucking gay as hell and I never should have returned

I played from 2003 to 2009 and came back last year and I can't believe how boring this shit is, how the fuck did I play so long? Also my corp is full of 2serious4me faggots, I only joined because it had some people that still remember me, most of which have since quit themselves.
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>>143807435

so find someplace you like instead of bitching about the game
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>ratting stratios
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>ratting ragnarok
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>>143807435

Ah, I have a great game for you, chap! You should play Elite: Dangerous! Sounds like a great game for you that you'd enjoy instead of playing this game full of mean bullies and grieffers. You can even actually fly your ship and shoot stuff instead of doing boring spreadsheets and clicking things.

I'm having a blast, hope to see you flying around in the galaxy!

Fly safe, CMDR :-)

- CMDR Apollus
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>vexor
>ratting
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>ratting
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>elite dangerous
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>>143807908
>instead of playing this game full of mean bullies and grieffers

But that's the only good thing about EVE
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>ratting
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>tfw erp for plex

So how many of you miners paid me plex to pretend to be a grill?
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stop posting that egypt cat
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>exploration
>money
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>>143808078
>>143806914
>>143806063

stop posting this fucking elf
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>mining
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>>143808178
post pic of pilot and we'll see
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>>143808410
>>143808214
>>143807435
>>143807124
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>posting kills in bio
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guys can we stop shitposting for a bit
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>erp
Why don't you just fap.
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have you guys eve wondered why there is even pve in this game. shouldn't CCP just give us a steady amount of isk for free and we jsut get to blow it all the fuck up instead of grinding for it like a korean gold farmer?
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@143808646

nobody is shitposting just because u dont like our opinions doesnt mean its shitposting
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What if CCP made alien races? I want the egyptian cat and elf race
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>>143808967
wolf girl race
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>>143808410
It's not an elf, it's an imp
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FUCK YOU ALL REDDIT AND 9GAG SHITPOSTERS GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS YOU HAVE BEEN RUINING /EOG/ ALL DAY I CANT EVEN HAVE A NORMAL DISCUSSIONS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PUBBIES GET OUT GET OUT GET OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
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>>143808861
bump
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>>143809426
>a normal discussions
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>>143809426
meltin down harder than saranen local
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>>143809426
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>>143808617
>PERUNGA does this
>corrected a misspelling on one of his kills
>he just quoted my text and put into his bio
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>snuffed out
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guys

i think mittens is right, i think goons are actually winning this
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Guys since we post dogs can we post qt dog girls?
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>>143809426
>normal discussion
>/eog/
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what level do you have to be to do incursion also are there any gear restrictions?
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>>143811968

ilevel 230
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I'm a total newb who wants to get into exploration and the stealth frig. What should my skill plan look like?

I'm trying to do research but I don't see a lot of stuff. I can already use a Heron and analyzers, what else do I need?
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>>143812254
>I can already use a Heron and analyzers, what else do I need

you are good to go

work towards a buzzard and covops cloak
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>>143704704
indeed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYnzZ2rczSo
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can someone explain what ccp was doing so right between late 2008 and early 2014 that had like 60k people online?
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>>143812419
Are there other general skills I need? Like better analyzers, or just trade stuff in general? A guy helped me a long time ago to set up a skill plan and had all sorts of stuff on it that I wouldn't have known to grab.
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>>143813048
what if I told you that the actual amount of real players online has always been 35k on average? those 60k were inflated by alts, especially the "power of two" offers which were happening right around that time.

lately CCp has taken a better stance on the cancer that multiple accounts is.
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>>143813379
oh okay.
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>>143813379
>lately CCp has taken a better stance on the cancer that multiple accounts is.
multibox ban when?
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>>143813048
alts out the ass and tons of sov war
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>>143813935

fixing not broadcasting through isboxer is enough really
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>>143813935
I don't know how you'd ban multiboxing. If you limit EVE instances to one per computer, you'd get people running it on VMs or on other physical boxes. If you limited it to one connection per IP, you'd have people connecting with VPNs.

Only way to "ban" multiboxing is to make all tasks too intensive to be done by multiple people, but even that's not possible since just having a second account can give you gang boosts or intel that a single cannot.
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I want Reyni to sit on my face
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>>143814136
just because you cant fix every problem doesnt mean you dont do the things you can. it would already be a ton better.
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>>143814136
>but even that's not possible since just having a second account can give you gang boosts or intel that a single cannot

you can fix some of these 'alt-only' tasks where there isn't enough gameplay to require a real person. I think if that happened, having a lot of accounts and multiboxers would be less cancerous, because they'd have to do some skill stuff
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>>143814136
Some most ridiculous multiboxing is pretty obvious to test for.
Just say it's illegal and scare people from doing it by banning the most obvious one-man fleets / obvious link-alts.

That would limit multiboxing by 97%.
And if someone goes through so much effort to not get caught multiboxing, and still live under a threat that all ISK/SP/everything he made in game can vanish in a second if he makes one mistake, then who cares?
Let him.

This is not something you want/can enforce with 100% effectiveness (like botting).
You just want to scare users into obscurity so that nobody does it anymore.

It's not worth hunting out that final last few guys that play on VM/VPN and chat with themselves on their own corps to pretend they are several different people, because there's so few of them they are insignificant.
Also while multibox is cancer, removing it at this stage of the game is probably a bad idea.
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>ratting>mining>missions>incursions>wormholes>anomalies>mazes>market>trading>space trucking>whoring>memeing>scamming>exploring>bazaar trading>shitposting>nullfags>highsec niggers>lowsec faggots>wormhole inbreds
>frigates>cruisers>destroyers>battlecruisers
>battleships>caps
>supers>titans
>all-out>jita sluts
>redheads>catgirls>benji>ice miners
>campers>EUTZ
>USTZ>RUTZ
>AUTZ>tripwire
>siggy>wormhole memes>panther>reddit
>stunt>freighters>jump freighters>tengu
>nootkin>skiff>maller>amarr
>beams>AB confessor>brawling hic>ragnarok
>T3C>Legion>Proteus>Loki>Jita>Citadel>interceptor>attack frigate>tactical destroyer>blops>marauder>blockade runner>deep space transport>zkillboard>routes>jumping>holding>spreadsheets>plex>skillpoints>PI>fighters>light fighters>support fighters>heavy fighters>squadron>dogs>bully>meme corp
>ERP>ISK>bio>medals
>ping>teamspeak
>mumble>discord
>slack>jabber
>client>exefile>account>save settings>PoS
>production>salvage>research
>compressing>hostage>refund>referal
>recruit>corp>guild>alliance>temportal shitposting>corax>sleipnir>ferox>svipul
>hurricane>hurricane fleet issue>hecate
>jackdaw>vagabond>muninn>eagle
>cerberus>arbitrator>firetail>slicer
>scythe>scimitat
>vexor>vexor navy issue>cormorant>aeon
>nyx>avatar>onyx
>slasher>merlin
>rifter>retribution
>punisher>vengeance>sabre>apocalypse navy issue>armageddon
>rokh>tempest
>immolator>guardian
>wolf>cheetah
>caracal>moa
>jettison>roam>cloaky camper>covert ops>cyno>heavy water>stabber>cyclone>zealot>dragoon>thorax>thanatos>archon>chimera>celesti>oracle>prfcy>tornado>omen>ashimmu>cynabal>machariel>silverfish>vindicator>daredevil>gila>orthr>phantasm>rattlesnek>stratios>vigilan>absolution>damnation>command ships>command destroyers>command>battlecruisers>cruror>garmur>drami>succubus>aster>worm>dominix>hyperio>raven>scorpion>golem>eog
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>Also while multibox is cancer, removing it at this stage is probably a bad idea.

Just like real stage 4 cancer. You just let it kill you. You're its bitch at that point.
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>>143816027
what did he mean by this?
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Miners...
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MINING MINIGAME WHEN
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>apocalypse navy issue
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Friendly reminder that zero of the people who made EVE Online are remaining, the current staff is filled with unqualified people picked for reasons related to identity politics, and there are zero engine-level coders currently assigned to the game.

EVE is a dessicated husk that exists to payroll a cabal of socjus plants who the CEO is friends with.
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>yfw 5 rorq fighter mining 2bil/h soon
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Brand new player here, going for exploration. Anyone want to "recruit" me for the rewards? I'm about to roll a new account.
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>>143817016
where are they?
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>>143817016
>those low fat content forearms from twelve hour long coding sessions
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>>143817016
>engine-level coders

this is the biggest issue with the game right now

audio needs overhauled big time and they need to unfuck the hdr/ambient occlusion issues that tank even high end rigs
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>>143817016
Hilmar?

Also they are doing good job at being EVE's life support. Gotta give them that.
Without updates the game would be long dead.
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>>143817215
*flips hair and farts smugly* probably off making some problematic shit games for manbabies... feh... *adds a new module with a 'one per ship' trait because i'm too worthlessly lazy to think up fitting requirements*
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>>143815820
>>143815678
>>143815423
Actually, why not just make it part of the game? There was an MMO that took advantage of people having lots of alts a while back, where you had a character you'd play as and other ones on your account would be "slaved" to your main, using scripted AI commands.

Guy wants to use an AI hulk pilot? Make him train one up on his account or another's, then activating a PLEX like item allows him to issue basic commands like undock, mine here, etc. Need someone on simple tackle duty? Have an interceptor pilot trained up, activate the item, and have a condor pilot follow you around, approaching targets at an angle and web/scramming them.
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>>143817438

Man that's just really lame still. As a new player in EVE the meme that really turned me off was the realization that I'd always be crippled compared to the faggots running multiple accounts.

'Just run multiple accounts yourself!' Yeah except that doubles the cost of the game and makes gameplay a stressful juggling act rather than a decently immersive and straightforward experience.
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>>143817435
no really
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>>143817621
then play with other people so you are evey matched?
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>>143704789
>obscure quote by some philosopher
>no philosophy quote in attached bio
>I have a philosophy quote in my bio
f-fuck I hope you're not talking about me
At least my bio's not edgy, I think, though it does need to be cleaned up. the seagull quote is supposed to be an ironic inclusion but I'm not sure it comes across like that
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>>143743759
>maq able to log in
>reyni able to dock in leather club
Needs some fact checking / 10
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>he thinks one module per ship is a bad idea
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>>143812254
http://wiki.whitestagexitbag.org/doku.php/public:guides:exploration
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>>143819647
you dont need modules then. you just have ships that each one just does what every module would do before.
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>>143821724

what
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>>143821804
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>>143823513
why doesn't that cat girl want the fish
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>>143821724
>omg ccp won't let me build more barghests with scrams in ever slot. its totally sjw i swear guys
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>>143824979
whats a barghest
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>>143823513
bet you can't post that picture again
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how do you gentlemen discipline your drones when they start acting up?
nothing is more aggravating then when i am trying to afk rat in my ishtar and my drones attempt to mutiny
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>>143826354
xD le funny webbit maymays
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>gif
>it isn't moving
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>>143826058
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>gif
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>>143826354
you can try orbiting at a shorter range, it'll help keep aggro steady

if you're up against neuts though that doesn't go so hot
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>>143826354
I usually make them fight among themselves until they start to behave properly again.
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>>143702232
>tfw you try to anchor a citadel in stain AND cut diplomatic ties with stainwagon on the same day

https://goodsax.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=33909344

Why is my alliance leader such a fucking moron.
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>>143827757
I bet you can't post it again.
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>>143830562
youre right, i cant anymore
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>>143830525
>senex
thats your problem
the corp that left OSS because people in BOS used the word jewing when referring to ratting and then made a rant post on the forums about reporting people for racism if they ever repeated that word in their presence to get them banned.
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>>143830993
>reporting people for racism if they ever repeated that word in their presence to get them banned.
What the fuck who??

I don't remember any of this? When was this?
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>>143830525
sup bro

sorry aboutcha, next time don't join shit corps
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>>143831692
Oh fuck off, im so glad you guys are getting butt fucked by Tri daily for being shit bags. When we join up with Tri I swear to god I am going to make sure I burn every fucking fleet of yours whenever i get a chance you massive fucking faggots.

I hope you lose all of your fucking sov so your botting accounts can log the fuck off and drive down PLEX costs. You and Queerious are literally ruining eve with all of your bullshit and you guys can get FUCKED
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>>143832218
Sweet Jesus, are you mad?
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Industry is pretty hard to break into in EVE for new players. Mining has the issue of being an activity that gets directly more profitable as you invest skills into it and have fleet support, rather than something that improves as you take more risks. If there were types of ore that couldn't be easily mined by large fleet activities but required a miner to search for or otherwise locate and collect, it would help to reduce this issue. I'm thinking something like superdense ore that can refine into vastly more minerals than standard ore, as you'd need to travel quite a bit to find deposits, and having your entire ore bay filled up for only twice as many minerals as normal ore is simply going to make people treat finding it as a bonus to normal mining rather than something sought after exclusively.

Reprocessing also takes a long time to really get good benefits from compared to outright selling ore or buying minerals for production. There should be a sliding scale on reprocessing where small amounts of ore can be reprocessed with much higher efficiency compared to massive bulk ore. Skills are still useful for mass reprocessing, but new players can achieve really high refine rates if they're willing to wait a while for it to happen.

Production itself should have a bigger balance between people mass producing stuff for sell and smaller groups creating things for their own use. Ammo fits a good spot right now since there's lots of people who make their own, but it'd be great to see people creating their own modules and ships as well. As it is now, it's usually significantly more expensive to produce your own equipment compared to buying it off the market since everything eventually prices down as low as possible for characters with perfect skills to turn a profit -- which means those without will not be able to.
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>>143832218
oh wow
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>>143831280
sorry I'm at work, best I can do

entire thread was locked rather fast since everyone BOS side thought it was a joke at first, which only fanned the SJW senex members
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>>143832496
Also, it'd be nice to close the gap between T1 modules/high meta and T2 stuff. T2 equipment is so far superior to T1 as to prohibit the use of T1 modules for anyone but the most foolish, and meta module drops ensure that no one will ever need to build T1 modules anyway. I think it'd be better for T1 to have less of a deficiency than they currently do and instead make up for it with more difficult fitting or perhaps a new module grouping entirely that functions like that. Say, 10-15% higher powergrid and CPU costs or inability to overheat or some other drawback, but the primary mechanic of the module being close to T2 in quality.
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>>143832218
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Are links gone yet
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>>143770474
>80 days
How the fuck does that work? Did they give you implants? Did they at least teach you about neural remaps?
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>>143833190
bet you 1mil isk you can't post that again
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>>143832932
There is no need to close gap between t1 and t2. Thats what the meta is for. And not everytime you use t2, because of their bloated fittings, meta mods are used massively.

>10-15% higher pg/cpu cost
nigga wat, theres already only so little room left on any decent fit. Pvp fits are tight.
>inability to overheat
Nobody would ever use them then.
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>reyni's irl feet
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>>143833258
youre right, i cant
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where the fuck are the mods. does this board even have any?
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>>143833975
i win
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>>143770474
It's pretty much the biggest problem with getting into the game.

Especially when you're basically fucked without those skills trained. Can't fit shit, not enough pg/cpu, running around with mostly t1 equipment, no actual experience with the game to make up for playing at a disadvantage; you're basically just an isk pinata for vets in the best case scenario.

Even the big corps just use new players as cannon fodder or relegate them to mostly useless tasks like modern corporations do with black girls getting dropped into HR departments to fill diversity quotas.

Also the incomprehensible UI, especially for combat, and the rock/paper/scissors mechanics where 'even' fights are decided in the fitting screen, while most fights are decided by numbers and escalation.

CCP will never fix any of this and most eve players actually prefer the game stay this way.
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anyone got the ailra rai pasta?
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>>143834207
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>>143834207
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epic meme forcing xD updooted and shared on fcb :D
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You guys are alright, don't go to Jita tomorrow
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>>143837638

there's nothing you could possibly do to me thats worse than going to jita
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>>143833573
That was the other half of the problem though. People have the option to produce T1 modules, but never will because meta modules are in such high availability, which makes T2 the only actual useful production module. There's other stuff to produce at a profit, but if you're wanting to build something for yourself, T1 won't cut it, and T2 is out of reach of most players.

Inefficient modules with other drawbacks at least opens the door to producing a different class of module. Fitting is usually tight, but it would still be situationally useful or could be made to work if it drove the cost down low enough.
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>Ailra "warp to my sig, we're gonna kill some nigs" Rai
>Ailra "train interceptors; murder some brutors" Rai
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Dumb furryposters, dogposters, and willsmith posters should be banned.
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>>143839457
Meta 0 modules only serve as precursors to T2s and are only there to give budding industrialist something for them to build at a loss and pretend they are good at industry.

There is so much over-supply of them that it would take months if not years before you can manufacture them at a profit, yet people build them because the minerals they mined are free.
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he says were living our lives incorrectly. what should i do?
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>>143840823
blap then jettison
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>>143839706
Some T1 modules are more expensive to build than buying a meta4 module from rat loot
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>>143839571
yeah that one, but the full thing
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>>143834207
They already did pretty much fix your issue

They gave every new player a HUGE fucking Skill Point buff with a huge amount of skills into fitting, navigation, gunnery and electronics
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are storyline missions important?
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>>143841731

not really but they are usually pretty interesting, some are really fucking rough and pay decently well
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>>143841731
For your faction, corporation and agent standings yes
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>>143841804
>>143841826
alright cool
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>>143841826
>>143841804
What about the Epic Arcs? I think I might've done the SoE one a long time ago, but I don't remember it.
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>>143841983
Epic arcs are useful for things like lore, standings and potential money and goodies you get at the end of it
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>>143841983

my bad, i was referring to epic arcs in >>143841804

storylines are always good, give sizable standings boost and sometimes valuable things
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Is doing lowsec Combat sites and anomalies a decent way to make a some cash for a relatively new player? If so, what ship? I figured a Confessor would be a good goal to aim for since I tend to stick to Blood Raider/Sansha areas.
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>>143844079
confessor is a meme ship already so you cant go wrong there
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>>143844253
I don't really know what you mean but I'll keep it in mind. Beams or Pulse?
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>>143844380
beams for pve
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>>143844409
Thanks.
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>>143844492
Enjoy.
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>>143844409
i mean, beams are good in pvp too. beams are just the best
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>>143844664
Gotta get Destroyers V and T2 guns yet. 16 days.
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>>143844786
If its for pve, t3d works even with meta guns. you'll save fitting. But if you want to do the max range fit with 2 t2 locus rigs, you might want to train energy weapon rigging to III or IV because you'll run our of powergrid even with 3% implant.
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>>143844927
You only need energy weapons rigging 1 with T2 guns though, so spend the time training the guns instead
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>>143844963
But to diminish the drawback of locus' he needs more. Also it depends what is his level of weapon upgrades/AWU.
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HOW THE FUCK AM I MEANT TO SCAN ANYTHING DOWN IN THIS?
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By not using the new map you bitchcunt.

>tfw ccp will force this on us one day
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>>143845082
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>143845082
one at a time
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when are missiles ever going to be even decent for pvp at all
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>>143846059
>it's only pvp if there are 50+ in fleet
m8
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>>143846184
ive actually never pvpd in the game, its just what ive heard. are they okay in small fights is what youre saying then?
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>>143846059

they are...
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>>143846330
but muh beam lasers
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>>143846290
rapid light missile launchers are almost certainly the most complained-about cruiser sized weapons.

the reason missiles are not canonically good for large-scale pvp is because the travel time means that a large fleet that's attacking a target will continue to launch missiles until the target is dead, and by that point there will be a lot of missiles in space that won't hit anything because the target is dead. all the turrets have instant application; you can't waste shots.

in small fleets / solo this is a non-issue because you kill things slower and its easier to communicate. missiles are also simpler to manage because you are only thinking about your opponent's range, speed and size, instead of all those plus direction of travel. missiles also have selectable damage and use no cap, like projectiles. they're not a "bad" weapon system.
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Did they buff the mordu battleships that spawn in lowsec? My fit from last time doesn't work. (or the game is bugged because my drone dps shows zero)
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>>143846290
Light missiles and Rapid Lights by extension apply nearly perfectly to frigates even after burner frigates. They're amazingly hard to avoid in any circumstance.

A fleet of rapid light caracals can take on any frigate, destroyer or cruiser size fleet equally as effectively as another. missile "tracking" is an issue only because they hit frigates so fucking well.

Other missile systems like Heavy Assault Missiles are short range and they apply like shit to everything thats not a cruiser or above, even then they apply like shit to mildly quick cruisers with AB's and crap. Heavy Missiles are a bastard of their former selves and apply worse than rapid lights AND do only a little more damage than rapid lights when including the rapid light reload time which basically means Rapids are always better than heavies.

For battleships, many battleships stick to Rapid Heavy Missile Launchers because cruisers and stuff are battleship's real enemy and probably most encountered enemy. Cruises are good but are meant for stupidly long range

Torpedos are trash on anything thats not a stealth bomber. They have only a little more range than Heavy Assault Missiles but they apply like ass to literally everything thats not another battleship or structure shoot. Stealth bombers get a HUGE bonus to application of torps which is why they're only good on them.

Missiles are in a strange spot since they work so differently from gun systems. They're either really good like Rapid Lights and Lights or they're fucking shit like torpedos and heavies
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>>143849669
ok, i put rapid light on navy raven, thanks you.
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>>143850116
No, use Rapid Heavies on your navy raven since it gets a bonus to them
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>>143804032
i made a trip just for you, you're welcome
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>>143848803
Take off a DDA and refit it. Should fix it.
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>tfw someone is streaming DUST
Isn't it gonna be dead today?
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do implants diminish with modules?
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Projectile weapons should have travel time

Only hybrids and lasers should be hitscan
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>hybrid isn't a projectile
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>lasers aren't a projectile
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>>143851708
Probably.
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kys pls furfags
stop posting degeneracy like animalgirls
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>>143851708
no
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>>143854694
it does seem like it would make implants pretty useless considering their high price and low % affecting the attribute, so maybe thats right.
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>>143852521
I so want this to happen, just to witness all the tears of arty faggots.
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How do you make isk as a new player aside from Faction Warfare?
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Selling PLEX for ISK solves the problem of being poor in EVE. You're not poor in real life, are you?
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>>143856742
best solution is to get a job and buy plex, but otherwise:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Exploration
or
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Mining
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>>143857028
I tried exploration but it was awful. High sec sites are worthless, Wormhole sites take forever to hack and most of the cans end up exploding anyway, and I haven't been able to find any Null connections yet. High -> Null wormholes are a thing right?
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>>143857276
they are a thing
look up thera and eve-scout
hard the fuck up
use scanning bonus midslot mods or rigs or implants if scanning is the worst thing; use hacking rigs or implants if hacking is the worst thing
train covops
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>>143857276
>High -> Null wormholes are a thing right?
i guess so, i'm not a WH guy

do faction warfare then, that's where i started and it's stupid easy isk for the effort involved

it's also a great place to start down the elite lowsec warrior path
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>>143857276
use this
wh dot pasta dot gg

this retarded shithole thinks my post is spam if I dont write it like that
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I THINK WE NEED TO REMOVE SYSTEM SECURITY SINCE CONCORD DO NOT RESPOND IN NULL WHEN MY SVIPUL GETS GANKED BY THE NOCTIS PLAYER USING SUCH A SHIP FOR A DIRTY JOB IS TRUELY NOT PALLATABLE AND I THINK U ALL SHOULD RETHINK UR CAREERS
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>>143857847
>Shutdown incoming
Retards incoming
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>>143857847
>all sov in nullsec have police npcs
>protects blues and neutrals same way concord does, including killing sov holder alliance members that aggress on neutrals and blues
>cannot be turned off or customized in any way, if you have sov you will have the police
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>>143858271
>never have to login again because poleece
YEAH DUDE THAT'S A GREAT IDEA
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which blops ship is the best?
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>>143858607
panther
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>>143858420
But you will have what all the null faggots wanted, more people coming to null! Isn't that great?
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>>143858861
sov is shit
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>>143702834
Tengu and wormholers literally cucked out of /v/ bros
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>>143851492
Servers shut down about an hour ago for good. I decided to log back in for one last hurrah with my other buddies who still play the game and burn the last of my officer gear along with everyone else who had the same idea.

It was actually pretty fun, and I regret not playing it more in the end.
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>>143859693
that's all bullshit, i've been seeing the same argument float around for almost a decade now
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Tfw you jump through a wormhole and it collapse behind you, letting you alone in the vaccum of the deep space, then you think about your comfy nullsec knowing that you will maybe never return ( with that ship at least )
Here it starts, my new life of solitude, fear and oil ass
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Is Project NOVA gonna be something else besides a sci-fi skinned CoD clone?
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>>143862386
Best case scenario it will be EVE skinned planetside. But looking at how ccp really wants to cash in on session market with valkyrie and such, chances of this happening are close to zero.
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>>143862761

>Best case scenario it will be EVE skinned planetside

hopefully that means planetside 1, and not planetside 2 aka 'battlefield in space'
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>>143862386
they're going for more of a CS vibe rather than CoD
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>>143862386
Its going to be DUST 514, but fixed. Right now, they are working on making it a solid shooter first, MMO second.They are taking lessons learned from Dust along with all of the assets including models, animations, weapons, modules stats, etc. so they are hitting the ground running and should be able to develop the game at an accelerated rate once it gets green lit. Veteran DUST players may be ale to see alpha access by the end of the year with beta and full game by next year to everyone else.
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>>143863953
>they are working on making it a solid shooter

it's just gonna be another CoD clone with no complex movement, ironsights, etc.

ccp is not one of those 'labor of passion' companies any more, it's all about the dough
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>>143864405
Maybe for the Reykjavik team, but I am cautiosly optimistic for this. CCP Ratatti, the guy the put in charge of development of DUST 514 and Project NOVA, actually played the game when it was still active so when the community made not of a problem, he knew what was going on and generally got it fixed pretty quick, and is a fan of PC shooters like Quake, so he understands the needs for solid core mechanics in a shooter. If you were able to witness the difference in quality before and after he got his hands on development, you'd understand. He pretty much single-handedly (with only two others) salvaged what was left of DUST and turned into a decent game.
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>>143865448
well, we'll see

maybe NOVA can fill the void of good, fast shooters that happened after tribes and tf2's descent, but i'm not holding my breath
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>>143863953
>solid shooter first, MMO second
And this is why it will just as shit as valkyrie.
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>>143865657
I disagree with this decision as well, btu ther reasoning makes sense. If you prioritize the MMO elements over the shooter mechanics, you end up with the same problems dust had: cool unique game aspects, but a sub-par gameplay experience, and that is arguably more important than world-building and sandbox mechanics. Those can be added on later when, but if the combat mechanics (which is the foundation of a game like this) suck or at least isn't up to par with people are used to, its still going to fail.
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>>143866584
If they aren't weaving mmo aspects into the vase game design then it is pretty much impossible to add them later on. I mean you really can't upgrade csgo or cod into a planetside. So we will probably end with small scale shooter, judging by how they were testing legion in 6v6 environment, without much of EVE impact, if at all.
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>>143866996
Ratatti himself specifically said at FF that they want 32 player battles, butt I think they may be able to bump that up to 64 with enough persuasion and demand. They also did want to have an interlinked economy and a meaningful connection to eve that nullsec empires will want mercenaries for. And given the fact that the proof of concept at FF was on a Wyvern class carrier, its not too far fetched or out of the question that capital ship, station, and citidel boarding is out of the question.
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>>143867506
Wishful thinking - the post
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>64 player battles
>good
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>>143867506
>was on a Wyvern class carrier
truly a fantasy game
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Is NOVA going to have caldari catgirl combat squads or no
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ur ded kiddo
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Are any Minmatar ships actually good?
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>>143873243
> yfw
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>>143704085
Shame he quit, I liked his overall presence.
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>>143873730
almost all of them are good, it just depends on what you're doing with them
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>>143874563
Well the only things my character can really fly is a Loki, Hurricane and Maelstrom and Tempest.
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>>143874665
>loki
good for WH shit(?), station camping faggotry, and as support in a blobbing AHAC fleet

>hurricane
sort of the SOTM right now, used as a heavy skirmish doctrine for a lot of groups

>maelstrom
still good at running L4 missions i heard

>tempest
i guess you could smartbomb on a gate with it?
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>>143875171
Welpcanes are back? I thought everyone was sperging out about Beams. Or is that just someone rusing? Arty cane is literally the single most boring fleet ship in existence
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>>143875353
everyone spergs about beams but that ship sailed almost a year ago after BL. and everyone else stopped running Aug Navy's

artycanes and occasionally their auto cousins are def. in
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Why are rookie ships such shit?
They need a buff don't they?
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>>143875869
>players complaining about t1 ships being underpowered and faction ships the only viable ones

>CCP adds pirate rookie ships

it triggered me
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>>143876443
>People complaining that a 2.5km heavy ships alpha a 89m one
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>>143876937
i seriously cant decipher what your post is trying to say
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>>143877097
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=482939
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>>143856886
if you are like one of these faggots who on top of paying for sub also pays for isk, you are the toppest of the top 1% of cucks, and in all honesty and sincerity I can and will ever muster I highly suggest you kill yourself in real life, because the cancer that you are is sort of the most abstract kind of cancer that will never be cured.
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>>143877349
>paying for game time with isk
literally lower than slavery-tier wages, i didn't know retards like you still existed
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>tripfags calling others retards

literally nullsec
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>>143877906
>having fun
>not spending money on it
>implying there's anything wrong in that
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>salvaging
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>full time job
>don't have much time left over for eve
>spend hundreds on eve
>have a blast pvping with nothing to lose

I just don't have that mmo grind mentality in me anymore, man.
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>>143876443
Normal rookie ships should be as strong as pirate ones.
Pirate ones should be as strong as they are.

There, rookie ships fixed with minimum effort (just tweaking shield/armor/hull numbers, and maybe a bit of cpu/pg too).


Does anyone even uses rookie ships btw?
I was looking for an use for them, but T1 fit/SP gap makes them completely ignorable (7 dps velator, wew lad).

Maybe the biggest rookie ship role should be that all skill bonuses count as if they were on level III (if yours are lower) while you're piloting a rookie ship?
And no, even including that and with a T2 fit (or at least as much T2 as you can fit) rookie ships *still* don't come near frigate strength on anything except day 1 pvp.
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>>143873243
>there are people alive and breathing in this thread that take pictures of their monitor

>>143874303
>bans everyone telling him anti-matter is the best ammo for short range merlins
>THIS IS NOT WHAT MY ANALYSIS SHOWS, IN MY CALCULAYTIONS THORIUM IS THE BEST AMMO
>loses entire merlin fleet with zero kills
>repeat same scenario in every grand strategy game he plays, blames game
Literally DSP, but at least DSP doesn't pretend to be good when hrs shit.
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>PLEXing multiple accounts
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>>143878681
The most important is to have fun anon
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>>143878681
how do you have no time left?
you have at least 10 hours of free time on a full time job, plus more if you don't need much sleep.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R84Pk847waE
well done, CCP

also, why can fucking fighters tackle?
the levels of retardation are stacked high
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>>143879068
he's trying to justify blowing hundreds on an MMO. He is what's called a Whale in the industry.
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>>143879217
>retard calling something retarded.

it's time to stop posting, son.
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>>143879364
why should carriers get to tackle from 3000km away?
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I'm completely new. How should I set up my Heron to go exploring? I won't be going into WHs until I get enough where losing a few herons wouldn't matter.
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would u fuk
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>>143879217
having support fighters is a huge dps loss
plus regular carrier ships have been shit for so long, they deserved some love

>>143879543
but they don't
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>>143879543
Because they are fighter carrier, fighter are like frigate, frigates can tackle
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>>143879663
no
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>>143879627
something like this
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Heron/Fittings#Fleet-Up_Fittings
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>>143879627
a cloak on the high

analyzers, MWD, scanning upgrades in the mids

nanofibers in the lows to make warping out fast in case someone gets the drop on you

and on the rigs gravity capacitors for scanning buff
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>>143879627
http://all-out.github.io/guides/exploration-relic-data/
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>>143879663
>tits so enormous they stretch the jacket textures to the point they look shitty

Ahhhh
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>>143879663
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>>143879543
>3000km away
Carriers should be able to tackle from 120 AU away, 3000km is nothing.
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>>143879663
>>>/v/339383653

fuck off
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>>143875353
>Welpcanes are back?

you really give far too much attention to nullsec meme corps fagging about what shit they fly
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>>143879237
>have fun with thing
>spend money to have more fun with thing

It's fine that you're poor I guess.
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>>143879663
Why do Sebiestor girls look so bitchy?
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>>143881418
says the wagecuck
if you had a proper job with a salary you would have all the time in the world
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>>143879828
This guide feels really outdated. No mention of ghost sites at all, nothing on astero or stratios. At this point might as well go to EVEUni. The only good thing is that wormhole mapping tool.
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>>143879758
>http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Heron/Fittings#Fleet-Up_Fittings
This one has no guns? I can't access cloaking on my trial so I'll probably just replace that and salvager with weapons?

>>143879771
Thanks.
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>>143882313
>No mention of ghost sites at all,

Ignore

>nothing on astero or stratios

For a good reason. Don't fucking use them for hacking, especially the stratios.

You could argue that Astero is sensible because of covops cloak, but I reckon you'd lose more money in the long run because of how expensive it is compared to t1 frigs.

>>143882553
You don't need any guns for hacking
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>>143882313
he said hes new.
by the time you are ready to fly an astero without losing it like an autist is about the time you know what to fit it.

guide seems still relevant to me
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>The head of the SoE is the sister of the head of Serpentis

How deep does the rabbit hole go, /eog/?
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>>143882273
You're right, I actually do have the time, I've just been splitting my time between eve, legion beta, and doom. It's fine that you have to grind for your isk though, gotta sell my plex to SOMEONE.
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>>143878032
>he thinks time isn't money
>>
I'm a CCP employee. I would prove that but I wont as I don't want my name associated with this site.

I have been browsing this thread (as it is one of the most active open places to discuss EVE other than our forums) and I noticed that at least a half of the comments here are related to how you want to see something new in EVE, or fix something old.

So lets try that, I'm genuinely interested in what kind of stuff can you guys come up with. Most of the time, however strange that may sound, the stuff I've read here has seemed fully logical and perfectly fitting for our future vision of the game.

>If you could implement something new or fix an issue in the game, what would it be?

It'd be really cool if a lot of people answered the question, and the longer and more detailed the comments, the better. All I'm going to say is that if it sounds very good and is backed by enough logic, you might as well see it in the game (if it's something achievable, that is).
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>>143883425

fix all the audio issues and poor performance
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>>143883405
It's not, they are actually separate concepts and you aren't getting money just because you're "saving" time by sitting on comms for 12 hours without logging in.

Also, if you think you need to spend more time to make money than to PVP, you're just inefficient at it and probably an incursion runner.

>>143883425
ALLIANCE BOOKMARKS

SENSOR OVERLAY DISAPPEARING AFTER OPENING MAP BUG
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>>143883425
I'd add walking in stations

The game needs an easily accessible social element which can get newbies hooked until the game's spreadsheets element locks them in.

A newbie comes to EVE wanting to take part in the epic social nature of it all. Obviously that's not possible with the learning curve, but you can still let the newbie walk around Jita, sit with some jaded goon bittervets, and have passing conversation about all the politics and wars of the game. That's a start, and enough to tide them over as they learn.
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>>143883425

ADD CATGIRLS TO THE GAME LORE


>Caldari

Catgirls are used as weapons of war. Boarding parties may be assigned a squad of combat trained catgirls intended for deployment in situations where more valuable lives might otherwise be endangered. Analogous to a modern k-9 unit.

>Amarr

Catgirls are trained as butlers and servants for the elite and wealthy. There are whispers of sexual misuse, especially among the religious authority and heads of state.

>Minmatar

Ownership of catgirls is illegal and commmonly considered to be the same as the Amarrian subjugation of the Minmatar race. What few catgirls exist in Minmatar society, typically escapees from Caldari and Gallente space, work for minimum wage performing manual labor and service jobs.

>Gallente

Catgirls are privately owned all across Gallente systems and particularly those neighboring Serpentis territory. They exist as sex slaves, outlets for a voracious Gallentean sexual appetite left unfulfilled by the tendency of Gallente drone and AI culture to make human to human interaction (and thus, coitus) unlikely.
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>>143883425
Some more interesting skyboxes. Make eve pretty again.
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>>143884287
it would be nice if they'd let people use the high res skyboxes they use in art and trailers and shit

I never understood why game devs gimp the graphics of a game because some people have shit computers. we can literally just change the graphics settings in the options
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>>143883346
thanks for the cheap plex
now that the price is sub 1 bil I get to keep over 35bil per month of profit by mining 1 hour a day
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>>143882714
>not using astero for hacking
The fuck do you use it for then? I mean i can sort of understands stratios, although it is still perfectly fine for doing sleeper hacking sites, but astero is meant to for general combatless exploring.

Well you can run shit like high sec combat anomalies and ghost sites in it, with decent enough drone and tank skills, but that's a bit of overkill.
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>>143884287
>tfw no dynamic moving and evolving skyboxes
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>>143884580

soe ships are for pvp against explorers and ratters

faction covops are better for exploring
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>>143884737
which is why they have bonuses to analyzers
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>>143883425
Rewrite the sound engine desu
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>>143883425
More interesting active modules. AKA more shit to do in fights that gives a higher impact to skill as opposed to preparation

>Shield/armor resistance modules with loadable scripts for reducing enemy laser damage, projectile damage, hybrid damage, drone damage, or missile damage (while amplifying damage from other sources)
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>cucks falling for the "I'm a dev irl" meme
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>>143883425
Let people join npc corps if their standing with them is high enough. Would actually bring a lot of rp opportunities and will make faceless flavor only corps a lot more lively.

Make space less of an empty skybox with planets made of smoke. Introduce nebulas that affect some systems, star types that actually do something like in wormholes, neutron stars and such, make planets actually physical objects on the grid that can be used for advantage...
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>>143885125
it's difficult because combat refitting for example is extremely overpowered, and already we've got things that are very effort-intensive but not actually better than easy things. for example rapid missiles and buffer shield tanking are totally idiot proof, while active tanking and kiting with LR turrets you have 100 differen things to think about
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>>143883425
I've written it a couple of times so you might have seen it.

A Deathstar-like superstation that randomly warps through the whole map and is undestructible

>you can dock, and it has all services in the game
>*extremely important* - you can actually walk in it and explore the amazing environment of something like a mini-futuristic city - parks, different areas, casinos, clubs, etc etc
>it also has a giant window looking towards Space, so you're able to sit idle and observe the EVE universe from the PoV of a tiny human, not a one kilometer-long spaceship
>it will slowly warp through the universe, randomly through its cynos or something like that, being completely unpredictable. Point is to use it as a hyper-hub for trading with low taxes that is capable of supplying every single system in the game (if it ends up there)
>it's owned by a random NPC corp and there's only one of it in the whole game

You know how well the above will work, both for newbies and veterans. Everyone can feel that it's literally what the game needs and that it's finally a good enough reason to justify the wasted resources on station walking and characters.

It doesn't bother anyone, doesn't affect anyone negatively, adds a lot of content - the act of being able to dump items in it to directly supply deep null for Jita-ish prices, and is fucking beautiful and everyone will constantly talk about it.
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>>143885265
I don't think he's a dev, but an excuse to talk about actual things rather than the usual awful bullshit is welcome
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>>143884737
Especially astero with 2 highs and no drone damage bonus

Soe ships meant to be used by high end explorers, who want to do combat sites and be able to actually defend themselves. Stratios being a sneaky ganking machine was hardly original intention.
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>>143884617
>no Nvidia physX option so I can push space dust and ship debris around
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>>143883425
In fixing the game it'd be best to look at the prevailing 'conflicts' within it. One of these is that people hate highsec mission runners.

It's because it's an antisocial activity in a social game. If you mission, you're spending time alone that could be spent helping other players have fun. So they resent that obviously.

The solution is to make missions an entirely player versus player experience. I'm not talking about co-op or a faction wars reboot type of thing. Here's what I would do:

>At pirate NPC stations, you can get 'fleet commander pirate missions which let you control, in top-down RTS mode, the pirate enemies which spawn in high sec combat missions.
>You receive pirate loyalty points for doing it at all, but get more based on your performance; destroying the mission runner's ship rewards the most
>To discourage players from gaming the system by feeding the rats to the carebear, the system randomly selects a mission for you to 'FC' every time, and doesn't let you get the same mission runner twice in a certain period of time

Now missions are a PvP experience befitting of a sandbox MMO. You can take this concept even further and let the mission 'FCs' function as dungeon masters of sorts, roleplaying and taunting the carebear in mission-specific ways through the NPCs they control.
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>>143883425
Construction drones.
Special ship classes can use them (might be a new class, or just Rorqual revamp), not usable in high sec.
Oh, and limit to one active drone-ship per system.

These are drones that can be reconfigured: in a station/citadel, near a ship that allows in-space refitting.
Possible configuration include: transportation, building, harvesting. Each drone is capable of all configurations, just one at a time.

A deployed drone can be controlled separately just like current fighters - so like you'd control units in an RTS game. Select drone(s) and give them orders.
Harvesting-configured drones chip away at rocks, but they don't carry any cargo, so all chipped ore is floating in space next to the target asteroid.
Transportation-configured drones boast a large cargo bay. Their main role is to move cargo around the grid, between structures or otherwise.
Building-configured drones feature the ability to deploy deployable structures directly from their cargo hold, akin to how it's done on a normal ship.
Building drones may perhaps also include some basic RR tools.

Use scenarios:
Deploy mining infrastructure for a mining OP: including anti-rat sentry guns, mobile tractor units that scoop up jetcans/chipped ore, set up automated transportation from mobile tractor units to a single large container for easy hauling.
Set up small forward staging camps when invading enemy territory (WHs, Null, Low and even shattered WHs where citadels are disallowed), full with 500k km radius cyno jammers, providing mobile resupply and repair services.
Decoy base, ratting support, and thousand other uses for players to figure out.

Summary:
In short: they are the glue that binds deployable structures together, making them into a separate RTS-like experience.
Initially, the idea started as a way to make mining more active, and while it's not addressing the issue directly, it somewhat accomplishes that too.
But it also enables many other options.
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>>143886589

>having queue times for missions
no sankyu desu
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>>143886569
>enable nvidia physX
>get on bumping machariel
>bump stardust into stargate
>heavily stardust condensated stargate won't allow ships to move once they jump
>computer crashes
>card starts a small fire
>600 bucks in damage
>didn't get on killmail
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>>143887080
>Construction drones.

Deconstruction drones.

Drones that don't just destroy the enemy ship, but pick it literally apart. Gun by gun, mod by mod.
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>>143887372
so ecm drones.
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>>143886589
less crazy, but I'd like it if mission agents were not an endless supply of missions. maybe they could give worse payouts if more people use them. obviously more balancing would be required, but it would create competition and people would fight each other over them

if you had a thousand people in an alliance and they all wanted to carebear nonstop, you would need like an entire nullsec region. but instead they could just go to 1 station with a level 5 agent instead and all have as much carebearing as they want
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>>143886589
Your idea is great, but there's just one flaw:

Mission running is antisocial because the mission runners are antisocial.
I know that, because I am one.

If missions included pvp elements, I'd just fall back on mining (or more likely quit the game since I wouldn't be able to afford plex by just mining).
But if you overlook that one part it's a pretty cool idea.
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>>143888036
What exactly about a player controlling the mission mobs turns you off from missions?
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>>143888197
The same thing that turns me off from any other pvp experience:
My gain is someone else's loss.
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>>143888742

The mission 'FC' doesn't lose anything if you win the mission, he just doesn't get the bonus LP for killing you.
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i really don't understand why everyone has a gripe with high sec players

who are they really hurting, everyone whines about content but there's really no shortage of content if you get off your ass and go look for it
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>>143888939

They don't want to have to go look for it, the whole 'butterfly effect' thing convinced the newbies of that period that you'd be randomly bumbling into cool opportunities to frag charlies and stuff. That can't happen if 30% of the game population is holed up in highsec grinding missions by themselves.
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>>143888896
Not getting bonus is losing something, isn't it?
This seems like a normal logic to me.
I don't know, can't think like a normal person.
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>>143889191

so its the standard lazy entitlement
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>>143889768
Nah not really, the game if it worked properly really would have a natural conflict-creating ecosystem rather than making you engineer your own
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>>143888939
I think the 'high-end' stuff in highsec really produces a lot more money than it should, considering that it's basically just babby space, and people are only kept in line by wardecs and suicide ganking, which are both fairly shitty mechanics themselves
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>>143883425
Looking towards industry:

Mining fleets are lots of fun as they currently are (Everyone getting on comms, orcas, hulks mass clearing asteroid belts), but it'd be nice if there were also a way for solo miners to somewhat compete in profit. Mining is a very skill capped profession, such that exploring further out to find better ore is generally unprofitable compared to just sitting in safer space and mining with faster barges. The frigate mining line is a good step in giving the tools for long distance value based mining, but without some rare ore to go out and get that isn't better mined by large groups, it's not helping all that much. Maybe have superdense asteroids with low time to mine that are actively sought after by frigate class miners in places that barges would be impractical to use.

Remove meta module drops from NPCs, instead allow players to create meta modules via industry and salvaged components. Should help reduce the glut of meta modules on the market, and might be a way to make more interestingly tuned modules overall (IE Missile launchers with low CPU and high powergrid requirements for Amarr ships, lasers that use drastically less cap but more CPU/have less range, etc).

And really just a comment, Thera was awesome.
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>>143890048

incursions are the only issue, the rest is fine

>>143889986

>the game if it worked properly really would have a natural conflict-creating ecosystem rather than making you engineer your own

you have no fucking clue what you are talking about
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>>143890348
no, highsec level 4s are too profitable as well
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>>143890348
>you have no fucking clue what you are talking about

Ok mr. 'heh, i am very apathetic... look how much i don't care about anything, i don't even care to capitalize my posts, despite this being a board and not a chatroom... heh.... i don't give a shit...'

People who do this are:

1) college-aged

2) projecting false apathy to cover up the fact that they're extremely emotionally sensitive and can't handle criticism

What's wrong, retard? Did one too many people call you porky in high school?
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>>143890348
actually he is right. Eve is a game about conflicts, you dumb fuck. If you think this game is about PvE you are a straight up shit-for-brains retarded. PvE is just a means to an end and CCP couldn't care less if it remains as is, that of being a mind-numbing activity. It's a PvP sandbox, and if you doubt that you can go listen to that straight from CCP's mouth, dumb fuck.
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>>143770474
Bye, don't come back.

>>143834207
>Problem

It culls the herd.
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>>143890462

lol

>>143890697

what even is this

>>143890852

where did i say it was a game about pve, his argument was that he wants forced content delivered to him and thats not what eve is

having high sec pve'ers doesn't deprive him of any content in any meaningful way, he's just lazy
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>>143891070
>what even is this

can you go back to tumblr or something, you're obviously not comfortable here and are gaying up the thread
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is my san pedro friend here?
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>>143771016
>Only number 6

YES THERE'S 5 PEOPLE WORSE THAN ME.
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>>143891070
>lol

no
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Forced content is roaming around for 30 jumps and finding nothing. If the game had more opportunity for organic content that is not 400 fleet grinding or lazering a structure, things would be so much healthier.
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>>143778765
Minerbro here, I agree with this.
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>>143890069
Regarding removing meta modules, I think it's just the hole between T1 and T2 is too large.
I say keep meta modules, but bump T1s in effectiveness closer to T2. Maybe a full meta-step or two.

Then either remove that one-two meta modules that were rendered obsolete by the change, or just readjust meta to be less impactful.
If you want to make T1 more prevalent, the issue isn't just with meta modules, but also with some T2 modules being leaps and bounds above T1 variants.
T1 need a buff, if that culls meta modules a bit, then so be it.

Making meta modules buildable isn't bad, but it further pushes how hard it is for new players to get into industry.
However, driving prices of T1 up by making it more often a good choice is probably something the new-player part of the industry needs. Badly.

>Missile launchers with low CPU and high powergrid requirements for Amarr ships, lasers that use drastically less cap but more CPU/have less range, etc
We used to have that, didn't we?
The weirdly-names items marked as storyline, buildable only through exploration-gotten BPCs. What happened to those?
I liked them. They opened quite a lot of new fits.
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>>143891267

yes

>>143891278

>i've never been to low sec or facwar

again, there are opportunities everywhere, nobody is going to hand them to you
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>>143890852
>CCP couldn't care less if it remains as is
Now that is very, very wrong. CCP do babysteps in making pve less shit and more relaxed for people involved. They want pve audience, no matter how much they say opposite on public.
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>>143891573
Can we separate PvE mission runners and incursion runners from miners and ratters when discussing this? The former two contribute absolutely nothing to the sandbox. The later two are at least out in space doing stuff.
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>>143891510
Holy shit anon.
I had no idea EVE could look this good.
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>>143891510
:))))))
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>>143890069
>Remove meta module drops from NPCs, instead allow players to create meta modules via industry and salvaged components
this this this

rats and NPC loot should only be salvage, raw materials, or BPC's, no modules at all
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>>143891817
I meant high sec pve in general. Because that's where more casual crowd congregates and will continue to do so, no matter how you nerf high sec income or make low/null/wh profitable. They rather quit the game, than try to move out of their comfort zone. Which is obviously not in the CCP best interests.

All the leet pvpers already playing eve, to grow further in subscription numbers CCP will need to focus on different kind of market. The ear splitting whine is the only thing that stops them doing it more active. And i honestly not sure why that whine is even a thing, aside from extreme elitism, EVE already made out of three, four with wh, pretty much different, parts, might as well cater each part to different auditory.
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How's tengu ecm ?
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>>143889191
Honestly speaking, if you try to force high sec people into player combat, things are not going to go so well. It takes a special kind of person to fly out and do PvP time and time again after losses, and the majority of high sec people are not that kind of people. In practice, they'd see they have to fight other people in EVE, a portion of them would get wrecked in 95% of their fights and would eventually quit, leading to the next tier of shitty combatants to drop out, and so forth. It's the same thing that happens with older video games, you've got a contingent of players who've been playing for decades stomping new ones so hard they don't stick around.

I think one of the things that makes players so adverse to PvP though is not the losses themselves, but the fact that losing your ship means you've got to return to your home station and fit up a new one, taking tons of time away from actually playing the game. I left wormholes and joined FW to get some more combat action in and was instantly disappointed when the vast majority of people avoided closer fights completely and only engaged when baited or victory looked very likely. I'd hop on after work, spend three hours roaming around, and -maybe- get one actual fight that lasted 5 minutes after spending the rest of the time avoiding gate camps, smartbombing battleships, very large enemy fleets, anything that would just lead to me getting dumpstered instead of contesting.

If you want to encourage players to get into PvP, make it easier for players to ship up and dive into combat without spending a lot of time setting up to do so. As it stands, I'd rather shoot sleeper drones for the few hours I'm on then spend time flying around looking for a target. I think creating systems that rapidly bring players into engagements and minimize the downtime of defeated players would do far more at bringing people to PvP than our current system.
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>>143893225
>>143893014
The main problem I have with doing PvP is that most of it is pointless. The amount of pvp ops that were actually meaningful to my corporations or alliances assets are a vast minority compared to roams for LOLFUNXD. I'm sorry but PvPing isn't fun, I'd rather not do it if we aren't doing it for a reason, I'll never fly in a fleet that's just roaming around trying to find kills ever again.
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I'm sorry, but pvp is fun. You just have too many dicks in your mouth.
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I honestly can't believe that people play EVE without doing PvP

What's the point
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>>143887325
>literally put certain gates behind a thousand dollar pay wall
>unemployed neckbeards farming all day for plex on their toasters are stuck

The tears would be the sweetest.
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>>143893225
You raise a valid point.
Quicker reshipping also means more presence with the same numbers of pvpers.

>>143894136
>What's the point
Same point as with any game.
To waste time.
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>>143884580
Let me give you two pieces of EVE general advice:

>When someone says to not use something, don't ask what you can use it for alternatively, because most ships only fulfill a single purpose.
>CCP's general intent for ships is not always in accordance with what players use them for

> but astero is meant to for general combatless exploring

Astero has a bunch of combat bonuses and flexible fitting, it can fight. The reason I am not recommending it for exploring is that it dies easily (especially when fit for hacking) and because it's expensive.
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>>143893912
Don't expect the game to be changed for everyone just because you think there should be more casualfags interested in doing fucking nothing meaningful in the game but engaging with you in pointless battles that no one gives a fuck about and lead to nothing.

>>143894136
The sandbox, engaging with other players, doing meaningful PvP ect. Theres a difference between being ready to fly in corp/alliance ops that have a goal and roaming because you're bored.

I don't understand people who play EVE and are literally bored doing anything other than PvP since thats such a small part of the game. You must seriously be bored 98% of the time while playing because you are just spending that time looking for people retarded enough or oblivious enough to fight you.
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>>143894136

if they enjoy it then how does it affect you?
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>>143894515

The entire point of a video game is to triumph over others.

You're triumphing over a computer AI programmed specifically to lose to you. It's PvP except for people who need training wheels.

Some people never take those training wheels off. I feel sorry for them.
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>>143894738

the entire point of a video game is to do what you find enjoyable in it
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>pvp is for casualfags
>doing something meaningful is hardcore

No m8, you're the casual.

I don't expect casualfags to understand that though.
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>>143894738
>The entire point of a video game is to triumph over others.
Are you for fucking real? Point of video games, for end consumer at least, is to have fun, or waste time, preferably both. Competitiveness is not essential in either.
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>>143894738
>The entire point of a video game is to triumph over others.

That's why I mentioned separating Mission runners and incursion runners from ratters and miners, industrialists and traders, explorers too. The later compete with other players in their fields and interact with the sandbox.

Mission/Incursion income is literal cancer.
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>>143894738
this game isnt world of warcraft senpai, youre looking at it as if theres only two things you can do: pve, or pvp. some people get really into the social aspect of this game, and others want to take as much territory they can while leading a corp. theyre going to have philosophies to achieve this goal.
others take industry seriously. i knew a guy that was a trucker irl and he seriously would get done trucking and then get on eve to take his tayra around.
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>>143895214
separating? how is this going to work?
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>>143894984
Which one of us approaches the game as a game? You're the fucking casual.
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>>143895389
Seperating for the point of the "fuck pve'ers" discussion. There is PvE in the game that isn't cancer is what I meant.
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>>143895468
I'm pretty sure, you're the casual.
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>>143895616
Watching mining laser cycles or literally logging off and waiting till your shit will be completed in arbitrary number of hours is not a pve people can enjoy by large.
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>>143895685
>"Elite wormhole PvPers"
>Have jobs
>Ausfags
>Go to parties irl and spend coms talking about school/women

No you're the fucking casual.
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All of the activities in EVE are either PvP or simulated PvP.

Missions are PvP where the game lines up fake players for you to knock down and feel like you've accomplished something because you're a genetic dud without the ability to handle failure knowing it will lead to eventual deeply gratifying success.

Trading is PvP done through a market window. Hauling is inequal PvP where you always play the role of the prey being chased and spryly escaping your hunter.

This all goes back to our animal instincts. Blowing up a player's ship and looting its wreck satisfies the same instinct as smashing the neighboring caveman's head in with a rock, then taking his food and fucking his mating partner. Helping your pals lay low an enemy alliance is a stand-in for raiding the enemy tribe with your own.

You can dress all this up however you like but unless you're a woman you're hardwired to compete.
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>>143895994
>projecting this much

get back to your gf, normalfag.
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>>143896034
>WE IS CAVEMANS N SHIIIIIET
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Do people ever sell the locations of unexplored wormholes?
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>>143896413
if they are 100% empty absolutely
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guys, please go back to regular shipfit shittalking please. this game is one of the most casual games one can play in the first place. the main limiter of the game, skills, can be trained without even installing the fucking game client.

and who is more casual than someone else has to be the most pointless argument ever, unless it's actually affecting the game (see: most mmos on the market).
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>>143896034
>all this generalizations
Holy shit, anon.
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>>143896034
>you're hardwired to compete
Maybe you m8.
I'm the kind that doesn't survive infancy because they give up on every competitive task.
Bless modern medicine.
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whats the proper small gang fit for a blackbird

1600 plate enam rainbow?
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>>143896494
You mean for nullsec hidey spots, right?
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>>143896771
I don't think the blackbird has an established meme fit. I'd go with 4 racials with shield buffer and SDAs
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>>143896530
>he doesn't fly golems in gank fleets for his ctas
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When will CCP add bunny to races you can play as?
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>>143897180
Only after catgirls are in.
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>>143897284
which is after wolf girls.
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>>143897180
Once you cure your furfaggotry and autism.
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tfw you can't station walk as a qt bunny girl with a qt cat girl and a qt wolf girl
shit game desu baka
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>>143897458
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What's wrong with furries, I don't get it?

Does everyone just pretend to hate them for no reason, so they can fit in?
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>>143893756
>The main problem I have with doing PvP is that most of it is pointless
life is pointless, complain more about redundant shit
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>>143899021
Basically yeah, everyone is secretly attracted to furries but is ashamed to admit it :3
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>/vg/
>thinking it's okay to identify as casual
you people make me sick
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>>143899153
>>143899098

Added to filter, thanks
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>>143899021
fuck off brave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMkoHMdoj7Q
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>>143899282
who is saying they are casual
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>>143899394
sergaljerk isnt in BRAVE anymore tho
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>>143899021
I can answer this

Back in ~2005, SomethingAwful was feeling insecure about 4chan and felt like it was threatening their status as the cultural center of the Internet in terms of meme output, and viewed it as unfair that they could do very high cultural impact but low-morality stuff like raids, which were off limits for SA because it had an image to uphold.

There was a big campaign to drive apart 4chan through divide & conquer tactics. The idea was that by making various niche communities within 4chan hated, eventually the website could be made into a mainstream venue lacking the experimental flair necessary to dictate Internet culture.

A lot of groups were targeted, not just the furries, and you can still see some of these campaigns being parroted today. For example, in 2007 the aspergers craze happened. Similar campaigns happened with fedoras & neckbeards.

Maybe the single biggest one was the My Little Pony affair, where 4chan was threatening a huge cultural wave with MLP and it had to be put down through vehement smearing. Despite this it was still a period of tremendous growth for the site and left a big mark on Internet culture.
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>>143896034
Broscience the post
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>>143901738
What part of it isn't correct? Or are you just going to make your little drive-by quip and never make yourself vulnerable by being specific?
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>>143896034
You're quite right, m8. Don't expect the nu males here to understand your post though.
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>>143902053
The part where you assume I don't get an erect penis by being manhandled like a little bitch and yelled at by corpmates and enemies until precum drips from my cock and I turn up the intensity on my ass vibrator.
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>>143902956
That just means your inner catgirl is fighting to escape.
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>eve university on the gnosis
>Due to the price and scarcity of the ship, however, it may be more wise to save it from situations involving PvP.
>look at fittings, theres only 1
>it's a PvP fit
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>>143902053
shut the fuck up maquari
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>>143904115
What?
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>>143904115
fuck off kreydis
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Eve is about looking qt and getting as many bois as possible to fill ur boipussi
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>>143902053
None of it has any factual or logical basis.
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>>143905175

Could you be specific about what's wrong? Thanks.
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>>143905294
None of it has any factual or logical basis.
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>>143905475
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>>143896950

ecm is a meme
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>tfw 1vs1
>tfw i bring 12 falcon alts
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>>143906295

i'll just cyno in 12 of my avatars
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>>143906572
>he doesn't know supercaps can be jammed now
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>>143883425
DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT REMOVING THE OLD MAP i'LL FUCKING KILL YOU

And fix the bug with disappearing sensor overlay after I close the map.
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>>143890852
>it's a pvp game
I love this argument
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>>143907563
I love this response :^)
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>>143894136
Because EVE isn't only a pvp game. If someone is orgasming over his collection of 10/20 bpo, why would you stop him?
>"no this is shit. go shoot people"
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its a pvp game m8
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>spend a weekedn in dronelands looking for aug bpcs
>LOL I PVPED SO MUCH Xdddd
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your pve fuels pvp indirectly and directly.

pvp game
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>>143906726

>he thinks he can jam dd's
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>tfw I denied so much content to delusional 133337 pvp fags
Get fukt
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>implying you werent podded by test 5 minutes ago
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>>143908935

they are entitled to kill you for free

quit depriving them of their rights
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>entitled
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>>143908935
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=3683&b=7054390&e=37&t=ufe&ro=1.7166666666666666

Just
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he said pvp, not blobbing m8
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>le ebin swordfleet vs swordfleet
Literally nothing of value
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KEVIN
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>stain wagon
https://zkillboard.com/related/30002176/201605302100/
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>any region except the northwest
>relevant
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>napfest blobbing
>relevant
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>things that aren't talked about on reddit aren't relevant
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>>143910983
whats the most irrelevant region?
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>blobbing not talked about literally everywhere
>he knows what reddit is talking about
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>>143911241

saranen
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>>143911241

Anything that isn't nullsec
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>>143911241
Curse
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>>143911241
wormholes
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>>143911241
sovnull
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>>143910606
>using shit BRs
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=2176&b=7054349&e=96&t=uigcw
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Can someone post an infographic guide on how to make money? I can't be bothered with WH data/relic sites at the moment. I just lost a very valuable ship with even more valuable cargo because of a fucking bubble and since I'm solo I can only do 1/10 sites since the majority are NPC protected.
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>>143912009
incursions

also, dont warp to gates, thats how you end up in drag bubbles, warp to a different celestial first
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>>143912241
I was jumping from wormhole to wormhole. They probably had someone on the side before I jumped in to give the get go of dropping the bubble. Should've paid more attention to that.

How would I get started on incursions? I haven't done much combat desu.
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>>143910606
so im supposed to take from this that rattlesnakes are really good
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>>143912770

situationally, they are pricey though
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>>143912770
>so im supposed to take from this that rattlesnakes are really good
at range yeah
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>>143912770
>resist bonus
>about double the dps you'd expect for something with that range

yes, just like the other gurista ships. also it's cheap
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>alt pvp
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