/shmupg/ Shooting Game General

All the strategy threads on the farm are complete shit.

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Second for robo fish are best bosses

>>143664617
Well most of them.

It's always either too general to be of any use or completely fragmented pieces of information.

Not to mention the board is stone dead and there are still posts from January on the front page.

>>143664617
The hellsinker thread is great

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>no miss all the way through 1-5 of DOJ
>game glitches and hachi ends up much further down on the screen than normal
Fuck you too, IKD.

>>143666645
Why would he be surprised that she's eating donuts if she eats them every day?

>>143664617
What is farm?

Is downwell good?

>>143653616
Crimzon Clover World Ignition (arcade original)
DoDonPachi 1-all
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou Black Label 1-all
QP Shooting Dangerous
Touhou 5 on hard. 2, 6-8, 10, 13 and 14 on normal.
Blue Wish Resurrection+ normal (auto-guard on)
Darius Gaiden easy route
Darius Burst AC (ADI)
Raiden (1-all)
Raiden IV (1-all)
Gradius (1-all)
Mushihimesama (maniac)
Mushihimesama 1.5 (original)
Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 (original)
Mushihimesama Futari Black Label (original)
Deathsmiles (Follett, 3's and 2's, no Canyon)
Armed Police Batrider (normal route)
Sorcer Striker (1-all)
Gekirindan
Batsugun
Batsugun Special (2-all)
Ikaruga (normal)

I need a list of streams and youtube channels to follow

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>>143668097
Ask /lit-oh wait. Allright.
Short but GOOD.

>>143668715
Don't follow me, I'm bad and I don't stream often.

>>143668715
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=44981
http://livetube.cc/tag.STG
http://stgrillz.appspot.com/
twitch tv/matmousetwitch
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/taito-hey

Does Mushi have slowdown or is my framerate dropping?

Also, what is the difference between different Mushihimesamas? What order does it makes the most sense to play them in?

>>143669342
Yes it does


Play mushihimetama first

>>143669342
Yes, Mushi has slowdown. All Cave games (aside from Dangun Feveron, to my knowledge) have slowdown when the screen gets filled; the slowdown is one of their main gimmicks alongside relatively complex scoring systems.

Generally, 1.5 will be a bit easier to play unless you're playing 1.5 MAX. The Arrange mode is very similar to normal maniac, but you start out much stronger than you can get in normal, you can switch between M, W, and S as you wish, and it has (an easier version of) the true last boss from normal ultra. In arrange, you will also autobomb if you are hit with bombs in stock, but the autobomb will use all of your bombs.

Mecha Ritz on Steam when?

>>143672296
The green light page says may 2016 so soon hopefully

does aquas have a stutter?

Daamn it.

BUMPA

I can beat stage 1, 2 and 8 of R-Type every time.

I can beat stage 3 nine out of ten times.

I can beat stages 4, 5 and 6 four out of five times.

Finally, I can beat stage 7 three out of five times.

Odds of beating the game: 0,27648.

Fucking Gradius Syndrome, eh?

>>143681643
git gudder

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>>143653729
>>143654136
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>>143654235
>>143655009
>>143655142
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>>143668282
All of you have made me proud! Keep on shooting, soldiers.

Bring home those 1ccs!

living the scrub life

>>143683250
yet still acting elitist as fuck

typical shooting game player

>>143683693
no shitposting until you're all done with your CC practice.

>>143650825
>with Type Z

lets be fair to kraut, type z is easy mode

>>143681643

rolled the dice again, died to the fucking Bydo (stage 5 boss)

>>143667857
shmups forum

>>143670067
Dangun has slowdown to during hardware stressed moments in stages 3,4 and 5.

>>143685157
System11?

>>143685685
Aye

>tfw no friend to go for double play 1cc's with

>>143688440
>being literally gay

>>143668715
http://gae.cavelis.net/tag/東方
http://gae.cavelis.net/tag/STG

>>143689206
It's not gay if they're cute.

Rate Mars Matrix out of 10.
>Graphics
>Difficulty
>Sound
>Replayability

>>143692350
meme game/10

>>143692350
M/10
A/10
R/10
S/10

tfw bought a stick, but it's a Sanwa JLF and I have no intention of using it for shmups

>>143695736
If your stick is moddable, you can just swap the joystick with a Seimitsu one with ease. I did the same and the stick got way better.

>>143696491
Is it really much of a difference?

>>143695736
I honestly prefer my jlf to my seimitsu

>>143696627
The joystick feels more precise and doesn't feel loose. I installed an LS-32 and I had no problems with the stick since then.

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>>143695736
>buy cheap ass stick for playing shmups
>find out it's shit tier
>end up never using it
Back to keyboards.

>>143697130
I'll see about getting an LS-32 then.

>>143697556
>shit tier
So, what was wrong with it?

>>143697556
mod it

>>143698552
Low quality parts, apparently I could have gotten better for cheaper.

>>143689209
How the fuck do you watch anything on this site?

>>143688440
do you fightcade nig

>>143699602
Isnt that shit laggy?

>>143684314
Ain't he using Type A?

What is babbys first 2all?

>>143701312
Cho Ren Sha 68k?

>>143701312
Batsugun Special.

>>143701312
console stuff
last resort
batsusgun special

gus is streaming btw

>>143702549
gus is hot

>>143702549
gus is cold

>>143702549
>>143702935
>otaku retards getting gay at each other
Is there anything more disgusting

>>143704915
It's ok to be jealous

>>143704915
>Is there anything more disgusting
You. I don't see anyone saying good things about you, anon.

>>143702549
post the link

>>143706943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnATua6APEs
Here you go senpai

>>143707078
Thank you kind sir.

This is it guys. Hat is on.

>>143707078
Why does he play/stream without a shirt on.

>>143707308
Because you can leave your hat on

>>143707308
cus he got dat strong moob game.

>>143707308
because he's either the most self aware shmupper or he has zero self awareness, nothing in between

either way it's funny

>>143707776
He's so self aware he tried to commentate a replay while his mic was off

>>143707308
why wouldn't you want to show off your vegan athlete bod?

>>143710168
>this is what fat otaku shits actually believe

Gus's dog is SOOOO CUTEEE

>When multiplied by all road has been closed, where do you go?

wtf does this mean?

>>143713728
Context plz

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>>143714391
well obviously it means that when multiplied by all road has been closed, where do you go?

>>143698872
Click the stream title link, people who streaming will be listed without time on it. If there's time that means stream is already over, you still can watch it but must login first.

reworked the op a little but didnt get the new thread >(
http://pastebin.com/Fj2rT5tk

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Gonna stream Deathsmiles in a few minutes. I should probably be practicing but I feel more like goin' for broke and jumping in to some score runs and seeing where I end up.

http://twitch tv/harrykoakuma

>>143716005
>koakuma
Cheating on your waifu Harry?

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>>143716005
Scratch that. Due to technical issues (my internet being shit tonight) I can't stream without dropping half the frames. I guess I'll try again tomorrow sometime.

>>143716828
Never! Though somehow or another I came to start using Koakuma as a handle, so it just kind of stuck.

>>143718029
RIP in pieces.

>>143718029
Poor Windia.

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=57438
this thread is some good shit

>>143723573
Everything that she touches breaks.

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>>143726837
>Honestly, someone literally restrain me. I win too much.
Now this is autism.

>>143726837
I never put 2 and 2 together and realized that Final Fantasy was literally just Chess with RNG. Thanks masterfrog!

Another bump

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>>143730104
Looks fun, let me try.

>>143726837
Undertale is a pretty cool shmup desu

>>143726837
Someone should ask for his feedback on Nuclear Throne.

Deathsmiles ruined shmups tb h

>>143734762
Cave ruined shmups. Imagine all the cool games we still could get if not every new game would be another waifu danmaku

It's actually a miracle that a game like Darius Burst still came out.

>>143732806
Or maybe Gungeon. Does /shmupg/ play Enter the Gungeon?

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Something about Salamander feels really weird. I thought it would be easy to pick up after 1cc Gradius but it's really kicking my ass. Looks like I'm still worse than I thought.

>>143735112
Fuck Cave for making games that only superplayers can play.

I heard DOJWL has bigger hitboxes than DOJBL, is this true?

>>143735620
I played it. Of the three twinstick/roguelites I've played extensively it's easily the worst, for the simple reason that the random number generation can truly screw you over and make the game not only harder than it should be, but also the worst kind of hard: the absolutely boring kind. In Isaac, you're guaranteed at least 1 item before you reach a boss, and most characters can hold their own until the snowball effect carries the run through to the end. In Nuclear Throne, you are guaranteed to find 2-3 weapons you fight a boss, and your character has a unique ability to boot. In Gungeon, you're not guaranteed shit until after the first boss, the only character that starts with anything actually noteworthy is a secret character, and if you don't find something decent by the 3rd or 4th floor, most enemies will soak up what you throw at them thus making each room a slog.

>>143736579
Mate, calling me a superplayer is an insult to everyone that's even slightly better than me, probably even including yourself.

>>143736941
The hitboxes didn't feel much bigger when I played around with it, but I don't have nearly the time in WL as I do in BL.

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Bump

>>143736579
>Fuck Cave for making games that only superplayers can play.
I wouldn't say they make games only superplayers can play, but they make games where you need to be a superplayer to get a remotely decent score.

I personally dislike this, because if I play a game I always try to play for score, but if I know I will end up with a pathetic score anyway, or just have to practice until infinity, then it makes not wanting to play the game anymore.

>>143738786
Plus, scoring mechanics, even though they are mostly optional, are a huge part of the gameplay of a game, and when the scoring mechanics are so unintuitive and difficult that only superplayers can somewhat handle them, then the whole gameplay feels wrong, because you just constantly have the feeling as if you make everything false.

>>143710409
Don't talk about his mother like that.

>>143734762
>Deathsmiles ruined shmups tb h
Touhou ruined shmups by starting the waifu bullshit and creating an army of dipshit pedo fans demanding more, cave just responded to the demands of the demographic.

deathsmiles is better than any touhou 2bh

>>143742513
I disagree

>>143742513
nope

Stage 3 of Crimzon Clover just keeps raping me over and over again.
The rest of the game looks like a cakewalk compared to it actually, but stage 3 is just retarded.

>>143742513
that goes without saying

>>143740292
>army of dipshit pedo fans
Liking loli has not much to do with being a pedo, except it's really explicit lolicon.
It's more similar to MLP fans. They are just weird that's all.

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>>143736941
No the hitboxes are just reversed

>>143744895
One gets off to children and the other gets off to (imaginary) children

>>143745831
>white label
>the slow ship also has a bigger hit box
>just fuck my shit up

>>143746161
But they don't even get off to imaginary children. At least most of them just like cute things, that's all.

>>143746345
ok

>>143745831
well time to clear WL with A ship

>>143745831
I thought there was an off center hitbox or something?

>>143746962
you can see the hit box for A type isn't centered properly in WL

>>143735836
Isn't it multiple loops? It's getting ridiculous after n-loop.
This guy is Salamander master http://www.ustream.tv/channel/UzrQd5SrGdu

>>143745831
To me it has always felt like the Type-A hitbox in WL is larger than the Type-A hitbox in BL.

So I'm a bit skeptical about that image.

>>143747612
Maybe the ship hitboxes in that image are correct, but the bullet hitboxes are more unforgiving in WL

>>143747704
That's a good idea which I haven't thought about yet. Though I don't know if I can verify the bullet hitboxes for both versions anywhere.

>>143726837
AAA shmup game made by Bethesda fucking when?

>>143743905
Survival run? Remember these areas and consider to use planned bomb on your route. You can do it anon!

>>143739056
>>143738786
Agree. In a lot of shmups, it seems that there's either:
First 1cc score
or
near WR superplayer score
Few people seem to care about anything inbetween. Or in some chaining stg, you really can't get anything inbetween due to the scoring system. It's nice to be able to add on low-medium level scoring to your route without having to go full autism in a game.

You could just play only one game and focus on scoring that forever, but playing some other games occasionally to take a break is nice.

>>143749715
Even though my scoring is still pathetic compared to top-players, I wouldn't call it a survival run. However, stage 3 is just the hardest stage I ever had to play through in a game. Even battel gaergga is just a cakewalk compared it... It's pretty ridiculous imo. The game just throws as much shit as possible at you.

>>143749917
>Or in some chaining stg, you really can't get anything inbetween due to the scoring system
You can in many games, but what I dislike are games like Ketsui for example, where getting maximum score is just almost impossible.

You just constantly feel as if you do everything wrong because you hardly can max out your score the whole time, except your are a complete pro perhaps

>>143750651
>Ketsui for example, where getting maximum score is just almost impossible.
Explain please.

>>143751427
Well, in Ketsui it is really difficult to constantly point-blank the enemies to get a 5 multiplier for your chain. Especially from stage 3 onwards it just becomes ridiculously difficult to do this mostly. So you just always end up getting 3s or 4s and it just feel stupid. You just constantly feel as if you play the whole game wrong, although you are not even that bad.

The skill ceiling in many games is just so high, that "normal" players hardly can really enjoy the game anymore, imo.

>>143751684
Also, not even to mention getting the Ura loop which is just ridiculously difficult. I like hard games, but shit like this is already too difficult imo.

>>143751684
>Especially from stage 3 onwards it just becomes ridiculously difficult to do this mostly. So you just always end up getting 3s or 4s and it just feel stupid. You just constantly feel as if you play the whole game wrong, although you are not even that bad.

That's bullshit though Ketsui is all about routing and stage 3 and 4 are not that hard at all to develop profitable routing alot of which comes from knowing when to switch shots and constantly remembering whats coming next. At WR level the real difficulties of Ketsui are surviving with as much resources possible when you clear and learning/executing the empty lock trick. Remeber you are only needing to point blank at sporadic times to begin chains and not constantly to maintain them so you shouldn't be point blanking everything by a long shot.. Just in case you are mad cunt kraut I can almost 2-all the game before you have a rage wank about telling you what to do and not knowing what im on about etc.

>>143752082
Yes, I know, on 4chan everyone is a pro at everything, but normal players like me, just find games like this too hard. Not everyone can be a pro like you.

Also, one of the difficult things in Ketsui is also to actualy keep your chain alive, and not just instead using the spread shot the whole time. That's also what I mean by difficult scoring mechanic. The scoring mechanics in Cave games have such high skill ceilings, that playing the games feel more wrong than right to me. Except you are a superplayer perhaps.

>>143752082
>I can almost 2-all the game
Wow, you are sooo hardcore, respect!!!

>>143752929
More poor comprehension from team sperg. I didn't say it was a great feat or even imply it i'm just saying to get that far into the game requires some knowledge of it and as kraut demands that before he drops a rage bomb it is essential to clarify. Feel free to keep being an insecure nerdling who is competitive over video games as an adult though, it's pretty funny you little bitch made super faggot.

>>143752345
Of course you will never be great if you don't believe you can be first I mean christ this is just stupid games how hard can it be to just sit fucking still for some hours a day and drill practice? I can only imagine how little people with your attitude have done in other areas of life.

>>143753984
>>143754089
>Abloobloobloo
Why do always sound so butthurt?
Also,
>Feel free to keep being an insecure nerdling who is competitive over video games
>how hard can it be to just sit fucking still for some hours a day and drill practice? I can only imagine how little people with your attitude have done in other areas of life.
Keep being a little hypocrite and feel superior because of a fucking clear in a video game.

>>143750258
Building break bar with Type-I is difficult that's why you always swarmed on stage 3, especially on areas with flying balls.

how are some people such fucking beasts at every game? it not fair t b h

>>143755616
By spending their life on it? Even if you focused only on 1 game for hundred hours, the skills would eventually be useful when you play other games.

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>>143756909
>By spending their life on it?
tfw its literally impossible to catch up

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>>143756909
I have hundreds of hours in a game and it's not even helpful for that one game

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>>143757109
Ikr, it's not built in a day

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G millions 2ALL.
FUCK YEAH

>>143759221
How often are you playing that one game?

>>143759881
basically every day

>>143759783
I don't get it, is this supposed to be 4-All ?

>>143759990
For how long do you usually play? Do you feel burned out?

>>143760304
usually 2-3 hours a day and I still love the game, so I wouldn't call it burnout

>>143760182
Not really, it only loops once and you meet TLB of the end of every 2nd loop. Hard rank basically drops you into 3rd loop.
There's also some secret that are accessible after defeting TLB and picking "continue".

How do you go about 1ccing a game? Do you beat the game first with infinite credits in order to get a feel of the game first before learning how to 1cc or do you go straight to 1cc and playing the game over and over again until your first victory is a 1cc?
Also, what controller does everyone use?

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>>143754274
>Why do always sound so butthurt?
I don't it's just your reading comprehension as i keep trying to tell you.

>>143754274
>Keep being a little hypocrite and feel superior because of a fucking clear in a video game.
Honestly when you die I imagine the global i.q points will raise a good few marks. Here allow me to demonstrate the levels of your stupidity...

You
>HURR U feel superior because of a fucking clear in a video game.
Me
>I can almost 2-all the game
Did you get it yet? no? I can't clear the video game in question you absolutely abhorrent cunt spastic so therefore i can't feel superior about a clear i don't even have, absolute dildo brains.

>>143760454
So far, It looks like you need to reconsider your way of practicing IMO. Are you scoring or just going for the 1cc?

>>143755616
Natural talent is a factor, but even for ridiculous players they first had to try hard for a long time in one or more games and usually play STGs for years prior to get there. Mentality, motivation, efficient practice methods, and such are also important.

>>143760568
I just start playing it as if im going for the 1cc, at first just play and see how far you can get on a single credit and do that for a whilst until really big walls appear then maybe use credit feeding or utilize save states. The main thing is always play conciously what i mean is try to be aware of everything and memorise things and think about possible ways to go about each section. Eventually you can build a run and away you go.

>>143760964
>Mentality
Yeah try to be as least like Kraut as you can, his psychology is the psychology of failure.

>>143760947
scoring, spend like hundreds of hours in practice aswell before I started going for credits to be fair, some people wouldn't think I'm shit, but I feel that I'm much worse than I should be, so don't waste too much of your time with me

>>143761229
Alright, if that's the case, keep on playing and good luck with scoring.

>>143761229
trust in your faith in idols

>>143752025
ura is just about pointblanking zakos with normal shot lol

>>143761630
thanks! I'll try to make shmupg proud and get a replay for stgarchives... sometime
>>143761831
I-I'm not sure that'll bring me to success

>>143761229
>I feel that I'm much worse than I should be
Fuck you. Last person I knew said this was WR holder on a certain shmups.

>>143764153
worry not, any scorerun I've done so far is hardly recognizable as such if you judge from the endresult

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>>143726837
>C# is the best language ever, when you embrace it.
The ride never ends.

SDOJ is pretty cool

>>143770310
With all this blue you'd thought SDOJ is ice cold.

>>143760568
Credit feed a few times to get a feel for the length of the game and learn the basics, then drill the early stages, then credit feed a few more times, then drill the later stages, then credit feed a few more times, then drill what still gives me trouble. From there, make attempts at 1cc while still occasionally practicing stuff that gives you trouble, or that you don't see much of in your runs.

>>143760568
>Also, what controller does everyone use?
I use a stick, but it isn't mandatory for playing shmups, so you can use a keyboard, gamepad etc., as long as you feel comfortable with it.

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Wow, there's a ton of people streaming now!

Shumps are alive!

>>143772883
where

>>143772883
I may join them in the next 30 minutes, so there will be even more people streaming.

>>143773016
stgrillz.appspot.com

>>143773327
I think we should add that to the op, streams are in my opinion a great way to find people that play the same game you do and disuss things.
Especially for shmups, where on other communities there are many collectors and other people that hardly play

>>143773713
Huh, I thought that we already had that in the OP.

>>143715884
Please add the streaming aggregator in the OP next time you get the chance!

>>143773965
I think it used to be there but then at some point it wasn't, idk why

In DDP which ship is better for scrubs? A-S or A-L?

>>143775481
A-S is possibly the worst shot type in all of Dodonpachi.

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>>143768113
>there arent a million death bullets on screen
You should remake this webm but with loop 3 death bullets anon.

>>143775859
K, gimme a few million tics.

>>143775481
C-S for survival, C-L for beginner chaining

>>143775481
A-L. Never do A-S. C-S is the best survival shot, though.

>>143775859
Wait a fucking minute, are you trying to make me play fultra?

>>143775481
>>143775658
>>143780526
>>143782481
>tfw no love for B-L

>>143783041
That's not true at all, I love B-L the most. It's just that A-L and C-S are the easier for whatever you intend to do.

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How difficult is G-Darius compared to Gaiden?

>>143782982
Please play fultra

>>143782982
If you're going to try, go all the way.

Fact: a single credit of fultra guarantees you a spot on the farm leaderboards. You don't even have to touch the controller.

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>discussing shmups on system11
>user says that he uses crutches like bombs, autofire and/or savestates
>blacklist him and report his post for child porn

>>143790398
stop posting this nigger

>>143786352
It's noticeably harder, but still not draconian or nothing.

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Good morning /shmupg/!

It's time for the annual survey! Please answer truthfully.

Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may expand upon your answers):
A) How good do you consider yourself as a STG/Touhou player?
B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?

Part 2 (Answer freely):
A) How long have you played STG's, or Touhou?
B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
G) How much have you improved during the past year?

Part 3 (Answer freely):
A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
B) Do you visit any STG or Touhou related communities other than /vg/? If so, which?
C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of STG's and Touhou?
D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site?
E) Do you have an idol? Why?
F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?

dude on the farm got a shmup on steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/466820/

>>143792353
looks pretty good

why does stgweekly have to have 2 people with annoying voices to be the main hosts?

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>>143791091
1A. I'd say maybe 3 or 4. I've been better in the past but I've lost most of my skill for STGs aside from Deathsmiles.

1B. 6 or 7. I can react but I don't always react in the best ways...

1C. 5 or 6. Alright I guess. Not that good.

1D. I'd say about a 5. I can't bring myself to give any especially good ratings for playing ability.

1E. Dedicated, 4. Patient, 7.

2A. Since 2010 about.
2B. Deathsmiles. I like the aesthetics, I know the scoring system inside and out, and have fun with it. And Casper is my waifu.
2C. Generally, survival. Very rarely do I find a game to dedicate myself to doing scoring-oriented.
2D. EoSD Extra stage 327 million points with MarisaA, and Deathsmiles non-canyon 277 million points with Casper. The few times I've wound up playing for score. Also Touhou Lunatic clears of Lotus Land Story, Mystic Square and Mountain of Faith.
2E. Not every day, but when I do play, I usually wind up doing so for two or three hours.
2F. Break 300m with Casper in Deathsmiles, and one of the following: Learn to score with a different character in Deathsmiles, learn to do Canyon stage with Casper, or play a different game to some reasonable ability.
2G. My Deathsmiles PB has improved from 241m to 277m, which is quite a jump considering I had the 241m PB since 2014 prior to this year.

3A. Not particularly. I watch streams sometimes.
3B. No.
3C. Watching streams can be fun sometimes, but I don't often watch runs on Youtube or anything.
3D. It's cool. Streaming is fun.
3E. Not really.
3F. Not sure. Can't really say.

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>>143791091
Scaling: 10 is SPS, 1 is Kraut-kun, scales exponentially

>Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may expand upon your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a STG/Touhou player?
6
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
7
C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
5
D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
6
E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
7

>Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played STG's, or Touhou?
A long time.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
Ketsui. Steele Yurec's glorious mane.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Scoring.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Qualifying for Ura once, because it was an NMNB section of a game I like.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
2-4 hours.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Progress in my main games.
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
Four to five points on the player skill scale.

>Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Yes.
>B) Do you visit any STG or Touhou related communities other than /vg/? If so, which?
Shmups farm, NAMBLA
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of STG's and Touhou?
Yes.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site?
STGrillz needs YouTube support so that Gus's stream can be tracked on it
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
WC after Stunfest, amazing skill with unique movement style and showing the existence of true skill outside Japan
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Only if they communicate with their sticks.

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>>143793059
Noice.

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>>143791091
>How good do you consider yourself as a STG/Touhou player?
5-7
>How good are your reflexes and reactions?
6
> How good is your bullet reading ability?
5
>How good are you at controlling your movements?
5
>How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
4

>How long have you played STG's, or Touhou?
I don't even remember when I started
>Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
There's too many to mention, but pic related.
>Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Raging scoreboner.
>What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Battle Bark normal clear.
>Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
Not enough.
>What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Steel Rondo score. I don't know how much because game isn't out for me yet.
>How much have you improved during the past year?
Gittin gud is visible but not much.

>Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Somewhat.
>Do you visit any STG or Touhou related communities other than /vg/? If so, which?
Shmupfarm only.
>Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of STG's and Touhou?
Yeah.
>What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site?
Eh.
>Do you have an idol? Why?
>Why?
>Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
At least I would not need to bump this thread all the time with outdated webms if that were the case.

>take a week off from Batsugun
>dying left and right
>suddenly shitty

FUCK

>>143755616
Because they're hogging all the talent

This any good/worth it?

https://www.humblebundle.com/store/mushihimesama

I'm a complete noob to SHMUPs. Best I've done is 1cc Crimzon Clover Novice.

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>>143791091
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a STG/Touhou player?
5/10
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
7/10
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
8/10
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
8/10 with keyboard, 1/10 with stick.
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
6/10, but if I can't get a good run going in a game my motivation dies quickly.

>A) How long have you played STG's, or Touhou?
Somewhere around two and a half years.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
DaiOuJou, the patterns are difficult without being too bullshit, aside from the stage 3 boss' final attack.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Scoring is fun, but I'm stuck with survival in most games.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Making it to Hibachi in DOJ and a bunch of assorted 1CCs.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
One to three hours.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
DOJ BL 2-ALL, maybe start working on a WL 2-ALL, improve my score in Mecha Ritz.
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
A bit.

>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Only what people post in here.
>B) Do you visit any STG or Touhou related communities other than /vg/? If so, which?
No.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of STG's and Touhou?
Yes.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site?
It's fun, I'd like to get around to streaming someday.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
No.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Why not?

>>143796130
it's one of my favorites, and it has a novice mode if you dont' want to go up into arcade difficulties yet

>>143796130
Yeah it's pretty good

>>143796334
>>143796357
Worth 9.99? Is the DLC important?

>>143796468
i think it is worth it. dlc is nice (it's rebalanced game modes) but not 100% necessary.

I'm new to shmups, what is 2-all?

>>143796468
The only reason you should ever play 1.5 is if you're interested in Original max

>>143791091

>Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may expand upon your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a STG/Touhou player?
9
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
10
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
10
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
10
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
10

>Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played STG's, or Touhou?
6 months
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
Touhou
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Imperishable Night normal 1cc
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
7 hours
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Imperishable Night hard 1cc
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
Tons

>Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
No
>B) Do you visit any STG or Touhou related communities other than /vg/? If so, which?
Yes, all of them
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of STG's and Touhou?
Yes
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site?
Don't care
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
Bananamatic
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
No

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>>143797367
What a pro.

>>143796269
sakurai-sensei is cute!

>>143791091
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a STG/Touhou player?
8
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
8
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
7
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
8
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
9-10

>Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played STG's, or Touhou?
5 years
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
Yeah, eXceed 2nd - Vampire REX. I dig the aggresive playstyle and it also has godly OST.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival ATM, although I'm going to start playing my favourite game for score.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
I'd say it would be Hitogata Happa Allemande 1cc because it took me 2-3 years to do it and I persisted despite the game being brutal.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
30 min - 1 hour, maybe even 2 hours occasionally.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Make a decent score at eXceed and getting better at shmups overall.
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
A lot, thanks to Mushi. That game really improved my movement control.

>Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Kind of. I keep track about MegaPulse and harrykoakuma, but only what he writes on /shmupg/.
>B) Do you visit any STG or Touhou related communities other than /vg/? If so, which?
I started visiting the farm and I may start posting there if I'll ever need advice about scoring.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of STG's and Touhou?
Yup.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site?
It's fun watching other people play shmups, although I'm not into Touhou streams. STGrillz is alright.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
No, I don't have one.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Uh, I think we are already discussing a lot, even if we shitpost occasionally.

>>143796632
1CCing a shmup twice in a row.

>>143796632
That means beating 2 loops of a shmup. 3-ALL is 3 loops, 4-ALL is 4 loops, etc etc. Some shmups have no loops, some have 2, some have an infinite amount

>it's a data mining thread

>>143804565
Gotta keep an eye on our best pilots.

>>143804565
>Hiro collects information for shit and giggles so him and Japanese players could laugh on howaitu piggu skills
Please no bully.

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>>143804565
>>143805617
>tfw I've already sold your data

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>>143791091
1A: 8
1B: 5
1C: 8
1D: 8
1E: 8

2A: several years
2B: fairy wars
2C: only score
2D: dunno
2E: not much lately
2F: nothing specific
2G: nothing

3A: a little
3B: i use irc, twitter, stream chat, forums sometimes, and been lurking here occasionally too
3C: rarely
3D: streams are great
3E: that would be ia
3F: observations tells me that maybe with some exceptions it's best if we don't talk

>>143806363
Hiro-san. Please tell ZUN to make another Phantasmagoria.

what shmup let's me play as skellymen?

>>143812531
That's forbidden love.

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>>143813196
Don't worry, it's only one-sided.

>>143815241
It's so perfectly round

>>143815241
>steps to drawing casper
>step 1: draw a circle
>step 2:

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>>143815703
In my day we had to use one of these but Casper can just slam her head down on the paper and draw around it.

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>>143791091
1A: 6
1B: 6 - good enough
1C: 7
1D: 8
1E: 3 - shit

2A: knew about them as a kid, going for 1ccs in 2009, semi-serious and score goals since 2013
2B: I like a lot of games, not sure
2C: Scoring. but survival challenges can be fun for a change
2D: shit ancient scores in hellsinker, recently progress in games nobody plays(battle traverse, finalboss). Nothing great, I'm an idiot & don't focus on a game for more than a few months. No very difficult 1CCs
2E: 1-3 hours if I play that day.
2F: Progress in StellaVanity or some other game that's difficult enough to be out of comfort zone.
2G: 1 point on skill scale. Played a lot & got better pattern reading. Fully accustomed to stick helps execution.

3A: Yes
3B: shumpsfarm, twitter, watching streams
3C: Honestly dont watch replays often unless I'm currently interested in the game. But I appreciate high level play of most STG
3D: Glad it exists. Streaming adds a bigger sense of community & it can be more entertaining than replays
3E: not really but if I had to choose maybe ben.shinobi. western player who has WRs in a variety of games
3F: We already talk a whole lot. play game

how do i do the zoom in thing for my score in obs

>>143796130
For $10? That's great and very worth it

It's ChoRenSha68k Week this week. It's free, there's no excuse to not participate

>>143820275
I need my left wrist

>>143820275
My excuse is I don't want to play it

>>143820275
But I already pushed my limits today. See >>143759783
I can't play same game for too long.

>>143820275
Fuck yeah!

>shopping for a new monitor
>buy two because of arcade mode in Darius
A huge buyer's remorse is approaching fast, I have no idea what the fuck else I'm going to use the second monitor for

what game should i play if i want world record

>>143823540
If you make your own game and never release it you can get the world record easily.

>>143823334
desu i like having 2 monitors to have a game on one and browsing on the other

>>143823334
if you've never had two monitors before, you're in for a treat. i honestly cannot go back to single monitor'd shitposting.

>>143823540
space moth dx

>>143791091
I'm a newb but whatever let's do this shit

>Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may expand upon your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a STG/Touhou player?
3
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
6
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
0, maybe 1 when the bullets are purple enough
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
4 most of the time, literal 9 when I'm focused enough and there's no delay
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
0, a single death usually ruins my mood and I get frustrated way too easily

>Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played STG's, or Touhou?
About 10 months (?), but not frequently
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
If I have to name one it would be the Gradius games, they have the best atmosphere and the music makes me wanna explore space.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival. Scoring is fine too but it triggers my OCD really hard and it quickly becomes unfun.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
I beat Mushihimesama on Original. It's good enough, right?
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
1 hour when I actually play but there has been weeks where I did not play at all.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Get good and have fun
>G) How much have you improved during the past year?
Learned the basics so a lot.

>Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Nope
>B) Do you visit any STG or Touhou related communities other than /vg/? If so, which?
Nope but it could be fun
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of STG's and Touhou?
I like watching superplays or informative replays such as STGweekly.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment and the STGrillz site?
People do what they like
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
No
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
I wouldn't care

>>143807198
>have multiple world records
>say you don't know your achievements
Damn dude, git gud.

i kinda wanna play akai katana
looks fun desu

>>143791091


Part 1:
A) 2
B) 5
C) 2
D) 3
E) 8

Part 2 (Answer freely):
A) About 4 months, only been trying to get good for just over 1 month though.
B) PCB because it's the first I cared about trying to get decent at. Will probably find another favourite STG as I get better/play more games
C) I'm still at the point where I have to play for survival however I find myself trying to score all the time so I feel I'd enjoy it once I get there.
D) PCB hard 1cc I guess
E) 1-2 hours
F) Currently trying to get good at RefRain, so more of that.
G) Infinitely I suppose, since I had never played a shmup until early this year.

Part 3 (Answer freely):
A) No
B) No
C) Yes, it's how I got into the genre
D) Fun
E) No
F) N/A

>>143823540
the least popular game you can find

>>143791091
1
A) 5
B) 5
C) 6
D) 6
E) 8

2
A) Started this year
B) Not really, i like almost equally many games from the "big" companies
C) Survival
D) Garegga 1cc i think, kinda shit but well.
E) 2-3 hours i think
F) Just keep clearing games, the relatively hard ones i'm aiming so far are some Raiden games, Batrider advanced and Thunder Dragon II.
G) I've improved decently, i remember Psikyo games being kinda unforgiving even to 1-all months ago, but revisiting some of the easier ones i 1-all'd in 1 or 2 days.

3
A) Not much
B) shmupsfarm
C) yep, but mostly to learn stuff
D) Cool i guess
E) No
F) Sure

>>143827157
?

Look at all of these casual pieces of shit in this thread who play for less than 8 hours a day. None of you will ever be good.

>>143831362
i'm having fun tho

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>>143831362
I'll play longer if you tell me how not to get carpal tunnel syndrome.

>>143832036
That's something that only a casual would say. You don't play to have fun, you play to be the best. If you can't handle the pain and suffering that comes with it then you need to get the fuck out.

>>143832385
poast you're scoares

>>143832385
>pain and suffering for neither fun nor an income
time to reevaluate life bro

>>143832180
Accept carpal tunnel and fight through your injury. Do you think pro football players only practice a little because they're afraid of getting hurt? Fuck no, they power through and practice until exhaustion. Be a fucking man.

>>143833023
>wreck your hand for shmups
I would rather freeze on a park bench.

>>143833023
If you get hand injuries you can't play shmups anymore.

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Bump

>>143833023
Don't be so fucking stupid you clueless cunt, you probably have noodle arms and haven't been through shit so back to feeding on the tit, twat. Carpal tunnel takes months and months to reverse and in worse case scenarios can lose use of hand and suffer muscle atrophy on top having to deal every second of the day with pain and tingling it isn't just something you can ignore and it never gets better once it passes a certain point you have to have surgery which doesn't even always work.

>>143845680
good morning angry britbong

>>143832837
>not aspiring to become a shmup monk
get a load of this casual underachiever

>>143844553
Hure

>>143846742
Good Morning fine sir.

>>143847239
monk
[məNGk]
NOUN
a member of a religious community of men typically living under vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience.

tfw literally a shmup monk

How did Clover-TAC even manage to make a game like Crimzon Clover?
I mean the guy isn't even a game developer and managed to make a game better than any Cave almost completely alone... How is this possible?

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>>143791091
1A: 4
1B: 3
1C: 5
1D: 4
1E: 3

2A: Less than a year
2B: Apparently Double Spoiler because that's what I play on most days, but I don't see myself as a true player of that game.
2C: Whatever's fun. Ideally I'd play for score everywhere but I don't have quick wits or a high enough intelligence either way, so usually I go for something I can understand, such as survival play...
2D: On a global scale none, and who cares about small personal deeds?
2E: 1-2 hours lately...
2F: Finish up what I want to do in DS, then absolutely whatever, possibly even quit shmups, though I'll likely always play them in some capacity--it's fun if you aren't being suicidal in the sense that Gus applies to this word.
2G: I think I have steadily improved but I'm not sure how much of that is getting used to the new hand and how near the ceiling is (must be close, feels like all I can build up is mostly accuracy, some reading skills as well). I am a slow learner who can only learn in small steps and usually can't find out anything good on his own. The positive outlook would be that I can keep learning in very small increments all the way up to godhood, but does that really work like that? I have observed many players being stuck.

3A: Seldom, only if we have something of a connection, or they tend to give a good show
3B: /vg/ is the 'comfiest'. I can go to irc, farm, other threads and forums, but I usually don't really care...
3C: They are exceptional for research purposes and can also be pretty good as entertainment but otherwise live streams are more fun
3D: The best
3E: Prom as always
3F: No comment

>>143849084
he spent an eternity making it

maybe in 50 years he'll have made half as many games as cave

>>143849091
how'd you get a new hand?

>>143849475
It was always there, I just wasn't using it. Skills do NOT transfer between hands, maybe only slightly, but it's partially a hindrance because fingers are reversed yet the brain does not understand.

>>143849589
Oh, and the hands, I think, will always feel kind of different. With my left I am barely aware of pressing the keys and more aware of movement, while with the right I am mostly aware of pressing the keys, and the movement that happens I perceive as the direct result of the intermediate action of pressing the keys.

The downside is that technical aspects like precise and specific tapping are harder to do with the left hand (because I need to focus on what I'm not focusing), and the right hand seems to require extra training for executing abstract maneuvers through coming to 'understand' key presses.

Also I feel that with the right hand, the pressure in my head (brain) is more evenly distributed, whereas with the left it's all in the left hemisphere.

So I caved and ordered a stick just yesterday; I want to see how it plays out.

>>143849084
>How did Clover-TAC even manage to make a game like Crimzon Clover?
>I mean the guy isn't even a game developer
The evidence suggests otherwise, you don't have to go anywhere to learn to program if you are determined enough and with his play experience etc he was always going to be able to design levels fairly well so there you go.

i just want to chill and play a comfy game but i always get this nagging feeling that i should be practicing a shmup instead

how to fix

>>143851316
Dont fight it anon, embrace the shmup.

>>143851316
give up on games that are not shmups

>>143851316
welcome to the stg cult, anon. glad to have you with us.

>>143851316
Don't do it. People who only play shmups turn into hipster elitists mostly.

>>143853217
don't you mean save-state-practicing-stunfest-restarting elitists?

>>143853487
Any examples?

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Courtesy bump before bed.

>all this time-killing with the lock-on in Crimzon Clover
Kill me please

nice bomb!! 2000 points

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Bomba ikimasu!

pmuB

>>143868029
you mad a spelling error there

>>143867886
Woof's art is too god damn adorable. When's the game actually gonna be released!

I'm fucking tired of Crimzon Clover. Stage 3 is just too difficult, it's pathetic.

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>>143868920
>Stage 3

>>143869101
don't awaken the kraut

>>143869270
I kind of want to shit on him today after going through the archives and finding him shitting up threads twice
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/339228503
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/339188792

>>143869101
Yes, stage 3. What's your place on the leaderboard on Original, Tpe I, if you think the stage is so easy?

>>143868920
Work through it.
If you're struggling remember that it's only temporary, and after enough practice what you find impossible today will become second nature.

>>143869540
>it's only temporary
Not really... There is just so much shit often going on, and you have to dodge so precisely, that it's difficult no matter how long you practice. Add to this that there also a huge random effect on how the bullets fly and I can practice this til infinity and still will die.

>>143872260
Cant see shit captain.

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>host a lobby in twinkle star sprite
>get utterly destroyed by some insane dude
>check steam id
>pony avatar

>>143869786
If you don't want to dodge, switch to Type-Z and watch DKA's Stunfest run.

>>143873617
>switch to Type-Z
I know Type Z is easy mode, but I don't wanna clear the game on easy mode. I also have played Type I already too much, and would have to relearn all my routes again for the scoring.

>>143873778
how about you stop bitching about difficulty if you decide to make the game hard for yourself?

>>143873778
I'm just saying. If Stage 3 with Type-I is destroying you, just wait until you have to do the TLB with its low firepower.

>>143873583
Which one?

>>143874127
I'm playing the game pretty much on default mode. I use the default ship, default mode, and of course try to score too. Game is still ridiculously difficult.

>>143874159
TLB is only hard in its second form, and there you can just bomb spam.

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>>143873583
Why not host superior PoFV instead

>>143791091
>>143793564
>>143793727
>>143794542
>>143796269
>>143797367
>>143798561
>>143807198
>>143818407
>>143824603
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>>143849091
Y'all niggas expect me to read this shit?

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>>143875449
I read every single one of them!

>>143875449
yes

>>143876028
Please don't read mine, it'll be embarrassing.

>>143797367
>>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
>Bananamatic
literally who the fuck idolizes banana

>>143878686
Who the fuck is banana?

>>143879176
a superplayer

>>143879176
the greatest player in the world, idiot.

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>>143879176
A life-size human meme.

>>143880705
the irony of kraut's post is palpable

>>143880893
Maybe it's just a ironic avatar.

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http://www.youtube.com/user/Jaimers91
http://www.youtube.com/user/iconoclast575
https://www.youtube.com/user/Erppo

tfw cant be good at everything like these fags

>>143883721
If you have time to be posting albino cancer patients you have time to be practicing anon.

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>>143883721
>tfw not good enough to be in the list

>>143886674
gimme a link to your youtube kraut kun and i'll add you

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>>143883721
>http://www.youtube.com/user/Jaimers91
>his shmup videos are much less popular than the few undermeme videos he uploaded
This is criminal.