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Kumiko is not gay.

most popular so far

1. Elementalist 19%
2. Slayer 12%
3. Juggernaut 8%


Slayer buffs sucked shit though not sure why people like it.

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>>143509954
top meme, friend

>>143509424
>>143508660
Read Divine Guidance.

>>143509954
Need someone to post it on plebbit and we all upboat it to shove it in their faces.

>>143510302
Can't take it without taking 10% MoM smart anon.

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>>143404002
>free
>>143421221
>free
>>143424748
>free
>>143434603
>free
>>143445221
>free
>>143457276
>FREE
>>143460415
>FREE
>>143461336
>FREE
>>143464959
>FREE
>>143474461
>free
>>143490497
>free
>>143421058
>F R E E
>>>143452820
>f r e e

>>143510417
Well it's still 50%. If you used Reduced Mana (lol) and some stuff on the tree you can still get 100% reduced mana cost.

>>143510690
thank you based freeposter

>>143510827
Yes. It's nothing new but it is another way of getting a huge chunk of reduced mana cost and it's quite underrated as a stat.

For some reason they removed the 50% reduced mana cost while on consecrated ground from inquisitor however. Quite liked that. I feel like standing in consecrated ground is probably much easier than keeping full es.

am i just a filthy casual or is leveling to endgame in poe the worst shit ever

>>143512125
yeah levelling TO endgame sucks dicks. never been good.

About to play for the first time.
Since the league is about to end, would my best bet be just create a character in league, just build him the best I can without looking at a guide, and then using a real build once the season resets?

I figure if i just play it by ear I will get a better feel for the systems

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Guys, i have this idea when i saw the new change for Shield charge , so with CoMK, Elementalist Shaper of desolation , Pendulum of destruction, Doryanist fist, Martial astrity,The Writhing Jar & Romira's Banquet for Acuraccy and Elemental Overloard accuracy. Well the things leveling with arc and shocknova. Then when i have the 2 jars + doryanist, switch to SC+CoMK+LP+SN+Arc. Maybe add master of discord and trigger it with new skill Vortex so 25% extra penetration.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAJD6321Mi-9L37CCEI-mRKtVriycEFh2EeTsMjQfAjbFBAfYJIPbTLNWSKcIVcbQH5eV6-46WO_rUlMc3DLRrJg9X5f0uJOPGkVHEQ8o-sBmTC1-r4LHBLM8BRSwjRn56KIAn9_vfIIe4BJBh_AfmjvbC9lftz6Cm92M_grsOPJF2L062IV7OuE1kicvZlSmV_6PtfKQVZRvTeN4DRo4cg_AGnGFqW5vO8y3Vyl349V1RtcB3LFCZKOE2WEhR36E77022sFlTS5TQzF07dNvwzMFLVoaeu8shSFgdPEppWt6yL9GUvxM

Also i gonna add Discharge and Maligaro Loop when get 6links

>>143512215
If you want some practice, just join any league and fuck around in--I'd recommend standard since it has a saturation of items and you can pick up very good gear for fucking nothing. Then when new leagues roll around, join in.

>>143512365
why the fuck are you traveling to IR from witch
this is not beta

>>143512365
paint a picture. I ain't clickin that shit

>>143512215
Game has a tough learning curve at the beginning and has the problem of end game being more fun than early/mid game by a lot.

Basically your character will struggle and be shit early until you get it set up. Character power is very dependant on gear and having a good build.

I've been in jail for a couple years. When did PoE take over this board/when did it "die?"

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>>143512365
I wtf

>>143512484
Grace(melee defense) + Wrath, so i can reserve all my mana and take EB, since killing shocked enemies give 30 ES for doryanist passive, Shaper of desolation will trigger it with jar's sworms

>>143512949
I think you should consider suicide

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>>143512925
Give me back my thumbnail fucking numoot

>>143512949
just posted again to remind you that you're retarded

>>143512365
>>143512949
Do it and make a vid. If nothing else it'll look cool.

F

U

C

K

GGG

>>143517772
>>143517849
>>143517970
>>143518105
>>143518170
Shit like this is why poeg >>> plebbit

>>143517772
>>143517849
>>143517970
>>143518105
>>143518170
what could it mean?

>>143518215
no, actually, it's because we don't allow shitcrows here

>>143518513
They're synonymous. You think redditors being shitcrows that shill GGG is a coincidence?

how can shitcorws live with themselves knowing that there is a quadriplegic streamer playing hc

>Deadeye
>Before
>50% chance of Projectiles Piercing
>20% increased Projectile Speed
>Projectiles gain Damage as they travel further, dealing up to 30% increased Damage to targets
>Skills fire an additional Projectile

>After
>30% chance of Projectiles Piercing
>15% chance to cause Bleeding on Hit with Attacks
>Projectiles gain Damage as they travel further, dealing up to 30% increased Damage to targets
>Skills fire an additional Projectile

Combined with the leech nerf to Berserker there is 0 reason to ever pick Ascendant.

Is battle rouse enough mana to sustain a caster build? I want to make a juggernaut fire discharger but i dont like blood magic because I need to use warlords on blasphemy and I dont like reserving life, but I also can't really reach any mana.

>>143518906
i'll have to agree with you here. the one thing GGG and shitcrows have in common is that they're both content with being shit

>>143518959
it's shit

>>143518940
with 4 fully functional limbs

>>143519069
dang, is there any resonable source of mana leech or am I going BM?

>>143519365
warlords mark gives life and mana leech, enough to sustain off mana easily

>>143519571
holy fuck I said warlords mark and completely forgot about the mana leech on it

I have not played since tempest and i forgot video games

>>143519654
take it easy

>No whirling blades nerf
>No choice but to use a dagger while leveling no matter what
Okay GGG.

>>143510321
Daijoubu desu?

>>143520346
My butt hurts.

So... Why did they buff Elementalist? It was pretty damn good to begin with.

I mean, Elementalists are now immune to reflect-death now, right? You can literally out-leech the reflect with vaal pact. So...

>>143520214
hello CoC
do we still have that gay discord server, or did it get overrun by plebbit

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>>143518957
>There is 0 reason to ever pick Ascendant.
What about 3 FREE passive points and the possibility to lightning warp in the tree?

>>143520592
it still exists

>>143520592
Wait, poeg ever had a discord? This is news to me.

>>143520681
fag lol!

>>143520679
is esk still in it

>>143520783
no, esk left a long time ago

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>>143520809
ok

>>143520783
>>143520809
who the fuck is esk

>>143520926
fuck off newshit

>>143520926
based seasonal retard

>>143520926
the hero hardcore poe never deserved

>>143520979
>>143521021
>if you don't know my irrelevant poe personalities you're a newfag

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>>143521024
>>143521021
>>143520979
i miss esk

you have to admit they were a top tier memer

>>143521175
>they

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>>143521079
>one of the few people who elevated poeg to a higher standard
>one of the few people who told havoc to go suck a fat one
>irrelevant poe personality
fucking summerfags smdh
lol

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>>143521295
I wouldve fucked esk regardless, just so I could get their account and RMT it for 2k+

>>143520592
>>143520592
>overrun by plebbit
it was literally made by plebbit. it was made to avoid chonners because they can't handle the bantz

>>143521315
>one of the few people who elevated poeg to a higher standard

So he got past level 73?

>one of the few people who told havoc to go suck a fat one

So you're just a stream baby and he's another one of your favorite personalities. Got it.

>>143521315
>someone told a streamer something
Is this how pathetic some on poeg are? How deprived.

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>>143521578
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>>143521617

>>143521518
>>143521578
who do you have today to champion our cause? dumb catposter? neo-poeg is really pathetic when they disrespect former rank 1s

>>143521762
Having "champions" is literal reddit attitude.

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>>143521762
>the people who don't suck my favorite players' dicks are the pathetic ones

>>143521854
fuck off retard

>>143521854
lmao
you've been playing this game for 3 months
figuratively fuck off

>>143521762
i'm not affiliated in any way shape or form with this general or its denizens

>>143521893
Case in point. Way to prove our point.

>>143522005
>our

so close

this bait was getting laid out so nicely

well played

resurrect in town?

>>143521965
Where's your "champion" now? Oh yea not here.

>>143522005
reddit is all about circlejerking big name streamers who are shitcrows or crowdfunded by their personal army of bitchboys

esk was a nobody that rose from nothing and earned her place as our girl, casually snatching rank 1 (ONE) from the likes of havoc

if you can't respect that, you're more reddit than the collective of r/pathofexile

>>143522239
>her
>girl

>>143522324
>he hasn't seen esk

>>143522324
summerfags...

>>143522239
You're no different to them, then.

>circlejerking
Exactly what you're doing.

>>143522418
okay reddit-kun, that sure got me

>>143522358
>>143522401
epic

>>143522574
Glad you can see the errors in your ways. Now it's time for you to stop posting for today.

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why is witch so lewd

>>143523203
>give art to two items that are rarely used and one of which is a league exclusive
>meanwhile older and more used uniques still don't have unique art
Bravo, GGG. Truly reddit understands more than anyone else.

>>143523391
maybe creating art takes time and it doesn't always align with what is "popular" at the moment

>>143523559
You've missed 50% of it.

Why not older uniques? And another point you've missed, league specific item. And even to your original point, many uniques are used consistently (coil) and aren't FotM only.

>tfq a quadraplegic is better at the game than you

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white item mf meta confirmed

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>>143524945
lol why the fuck did you put pt in there, spastic.

>>143525001
mad? jelly? mad jelly? fuck outta here bitch

>>143525104
>Gets btfo instant response ''mad?''

>>143524945
>>143525001
Certainly looks like it only counts a single item, AKA you need to use a white item and a blue item in order to make use of that.

>>143525403
Yeah, sounds about right.

Looks like no one would seriously use it though. Maybe for levelling.

Are there some basic vendor recipes I should know to liquidate the heaps of shit I'm picking up? I have tabs full of gear that I don't know the value of and don't believe are an upgrade for me and I end up just throwing it all at a vendor and getting some fucking scrolls of wisdom.

>>143525883
read the wiki
retard

>>143525916
I've seen the wiki but on my first playthrough I'm only trying to be efficient and not spend hours trying to accumulate specific currency. Thanks for the useful reply though.

>>143526340
Look up vendor recipes.

Alright, let me start off with I am new to this game. I have played a lot of d3, and I am wanting to try this game out. While Poe does some generic things all games like it does, some things are very confusing to me.

The skill tree is massive. And it appears that I have to have some idea of what build I want to play before I progress my room. Problem is, I am new as shit so I have no idea what I want to play much less build towards. Frankly, if I was new to this genre the whole skill tree system might put me off this game. Can you guys recommend a YouTuber that plays a lot of builds decently so I can try and figure out what build/ class I even want to play? Sorry that I'm new, but I have to start somewhere.

>>143525578
Idk man, maybe for MF SRS? I havent played SRS, but their weapon slot doesnt really matter IIRC and could get away with a white weapon?

>>143526858
>>Read this before asking for build advice
>http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084
if you're a complete shitter, ziggyd beginner build might be a good start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_oHM8jzts

>>143526961
Weapon is the most important slot for SRS. Are you kidding right now?

But SRS is shit right now anyway.

>>143527031
Not gonna lie, completely forgot pledge existed, and was thinking of other summon builds maybe, yeah the amulets shit

>>143527131
Or a +3 with cast speed and reduced DoT taken.

>>143525578
If you can get away with running tabula in shit maps (<t6), you certainly can get away with wearing a white leather belt/coral ring.

>>143527286
Except Tabula is far better than a fucking white item.

>>143526972
I'm not asking for build advice, I'm asking for decent you tubers so I can see various builds to make up my mind what I want to play since there are so many classes and builds.

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>>143527286
>>143527323
Just use one of these.

>>143527598
That's not going to help you, as people who stream or upload video guides are most of the time a lot more experienced than you so you don't get any benefit from watching a "cool" build and trying to replicate it. So there's only 2 options the way I see it:
1) You have a vague idea of what kind of playstyle you like, find the skill you want to play around, then do you research
2) You don't have any idea and just follow a beginner's guide like ZiggyD's

>>143527693
I'll give you an SoJ and 2 hex for that.

i can't stand any of you

>>143527323
not really, in both cases you're foregoing raw stats (100 life and 75 res on an average rare chest) for utility, and I could certainly run white and blue gear only to clear merc dried lake

it's not as if mfers are concerned about survivability. chaos recipe works just as well in areas of level 74 or 67.

I'm thinking hybrid sparkmentalist like everyone else with lightning and chaos golem. Should be real easy to gear with, like, Geofri's chest and hat and a Saffel's frame until lategame. Might be a little low on single-target deeps but a vaal storm call might help there.

poeurl.com/DCy

Thoughts? Bearing in mind this is obviously overspent, I'd fill in the health nodes with the last few levels.

Should be pretty hard to die with something like this, right? Pretty sure something like this is gonna be pretty damn popular in Prophecy.

>>143527286
Why would you use that amulet and a coral ring when you could use a gold ring and a gold amulet that gave a comparable amount of magic find plus a bunch of health and resists? It's a pretty shitty amulet.

>>143527802
u gief soj

>>143527897
we dont want you here anyways shitcorw

>>143527916
>people run tabula all the time
>no one runs white items after act 1 normal
Oh my mistake. I'm just full of shit.

>>143526858
I'm only a few days in myself but linking you to a thread about how to make your own build is fucking useless if you're not familiar with even the names of different things in the game.

Go on the forums, try to narrow down to a class you want because it doesn't matter that much. Each class forum has a build list, spend a little bit of time choosing a build that sounds fun based on the abilities it uses and how it looks in action. That's what I did and I'm enjoying a flicker strike build on my first character right now.

Note to you as a d3 player, when I first started this character I went with a dual strike build and it was pretty decent but I had to stockpile skill reset currency because it was mindnumbingly boring spamming one ugly skill over and over again, having come from d3 myself. A lot of min/maxed builds in this game work that way because the challenges here are ultimately harder than anything d3 throws at you. So when you're going through the build list, keep an idea of how many skills you want to actively be using at end game.

>>143527954
>Why would you use that amulet and a coral ring when you could use a gold ring and a gold amulet that gave a comparable amount of magic find plus a bunch of health and resists? It's a pretty shitty amulet.
or use that amulet, a magic gold ring and a white ring for 100 IIR, 15 IIQ, and another 30-40 IIR :^)
>>143527995
but you *could*, assuming you think 100 IIR warrants it

do you need 7k life to run dried lake? I can do it with a naked 3k life tabula character, so I can certainly do it with a 3k life tabula character with an amulet and a white item too.

chaos recipe isn't concerned about the difficulty of the area you're running, only that it's alvl 60+

>>143528157
Wow. 135 IIR and 15 IIQ in exchange for 200 base life and uncapped resists. That's worth. Even on a magic find build you could just go full idort and run fuckin double Andvarius and get better drop rates.

MF is the #1 sign of a shitcrow

>>143528305
andvarius doesn't give you iiq, and once again they're not mutually exclusive

use 2 andvarius, a blue leather belt, and white gloves and that amulet

all depends on how much you can push your character to maximize iiq/iir

>>143528370
hardcucks whip out their mom's credit card to buy gear

>>143528807
you're mom whips out my dick to buy orgasms

>>143528846
your tiny midget dick could never satisfy any woman

All this MF talk and yet too bad because MF is a huge noob trap that's not worth any investment.

>>143528986
Unless you want to farm dried lake forever because you're a botter.

is Emberwake legacy?

>>143528986
I can't really agree with you on that one. Not sure if it's realistically worth investing in on a temp league, but I still have my near perfect IIR/IIQ gear on standard from a few years back. It's actually amazing. Again, not sure if it's really worth it these days since it's been nerfed to hell and the numbers I have on my old character are impossible to obtain in temp leagues.

>>143529497
And you can only "reliably" do it on a few characters, like CA. And you'd want to be solo.

I've tried MF a few times and it was so disappointing every fucking time. Like 100/400 and it's shit while you gimp yourself to hell and back.

>>143529286
no

>>143520650
other classes are still too good unless you find a really niche build.

Scion's only use now is just being able to start in another class' starting area and perhaps being able to pick ascendancy-lite versions of different ascendancies (which are quite mediocre)

>>143531493
leech was the only good thing going for her
and now it is ogre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPRRupAM4DI

>>143533227
reported

>>143533227
>overwatch general is so dead they have to shitpost here
s m h

>>143533227
>blizz shilling their memegame in poeg

pathetic

With the death of Scion, whats the go-to for Explosive Arrow builds? Berserker?

>>143533276
>>143533427
>>143533706
baited those exact replies

>>143533786
(you)

>>143533742
Haven't actually thought about it since I'm 100% going Champion even though it may not be optimal. Elementalist is also great.

Also FUCK the "until there are none left" captchas. Keep failing after you've finished them.

>>143533952
Explosive Arrow Champion? Can you even get enough life and life regen to sustain it?

>>143534128
Sustain it. What are you on about? It isn't RF. I want to go Champion because I want to go Duelist for once.

>>143534187
>What are you on about?
Explosive arrow usually runs blood magic since it costs 70+ mana/life per arrow and you fire 3 of them in one second. You generally build tons of life and regen to sustain it or you use life leech from Ascendant berserker which is now ded.

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>load in forest encampment
>see this
What do?

>>143534327
Yeah I will have a lot of life/regen. What else would an EA character get that's starting in Duelist? There's not much else.

Could there be anything GGG does where /r/pathofexile collectively disagrees with and criticises?

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>>143536285
they did
the first time they stealth nerfed map drops
when people found out they were quite mad

>>143536932
>>143536932
>still a positive karma score
Disgusting. Same deal when Chris said some shit about desync is caused by ISP.

>>143510690
based freeman

>>143536285
lol no

I'm sure the staff at the very least has account they shill on

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>>143520681
yeah, since september of last year

D

>>143537964
I

>>143538004
C

>>143538034
K

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oh look, yet another league where i get bored within a week

the great irony is how this game has become more casual than d3

>>143538169
Probably. But I'm hype to fucking start. Didn't play much this league and I'm itching for a new league.

>>143538169
hmmm nah

What's the best ascendancy for a windripper build?

>>143539014
Deadeye.

>>143533742
Marauder, easily. Especially with the leech buff (no longer "if you have killed recently"). The 10% increased damage taken is nothing.

Witch is viable too, but the starting nodes are useless

>SRS
>Bad
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1663830

Tip-top meme.

Is poison bladefall obliterator a good build to start the league with?

The wands will be cheap'ish and they'll have a higher spell damage implicit. I'm also thinking a life/es hybrid would work well in a fresh league seeing as ES items with +Life are cheap as fuck.

Build:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMBAN-w34q7_HzwfqHpAhV-kQdp2EuuQnobJXpw2VttGRFQl_QI9CL0NblSU8BUbAunK5eVPV9qQ5MnTLO-in_G74hFfgQH0B-hLxGW-TcOXIPb7-sHHg5I189q-lXGlS5d8kmxOljw1SsKrJhJUREv99frY4RIm6G1SFxrGGqPRtRCw214L6cIHRSEb3zl6-760nX9WAea4BzcMtEWbxcvFr9FnY8aRUckquNqZOcmlQ-raoxTUsBmNulV1mHiJIv1bwSzPAWApFVLwzrIFKIAn9_vfBmKm7Wi2fAf-wmExbDYaPL22hqP

>>143540182
Damn, now I want to play it

>>143540882
>>143540182
Always liked SRS despite it being glass-cannony. Are there any decent videos showing the new AI? Decent video meaning a high-level character with a solid tree.

>>143538169
>the great irony is how this game has become more casual than d3
the great irony is that you're still a casual in a game you consider casual

where's your level 100 in hc?

>>143540226
looks pretty solid to me

>>143540182
>it's not bad
>you just need a +3 6L staff with a level 3/4 empower
>and elreon 8, vagan 7 to even begin crafting your staff
>and a helm enchant
>and 7 jewels
>it's not bad guys xD

>>143541468
>#1 HC
Ok.

>>143541642
? havoc made his SRS build like a month into talisman league. how is that relevant at all

>>143541794
>gets #1 HC
>b-b-b-but no still shit!
:)

>>143541642
yeah 2 months after everyone
speaks volumes about the efficiency of SRS

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ugh, i finally did it

>>143541849
he didn't get 1st 100 playing SRS noobshit

>>143541929
Where's your level 100 HC? Oh yea that's right lamo

>>143541849
it was before srs ai nerf
kys

>>143542058
>it's not bad if you invest 20 ex in crafting a very niche staff and reach 100 with it

by that logic, CA is a great skill too
but it's not

>>143542131
It was what? Speak English.

>>143542163
>In the meta of chaos above all
>Chaos Autistic Arrow isn't great
I can't tell who is trolling anymore.

>>143541849
you're seriously the stupidest person ITT if you can't understand why needing elreon 8 and vagan 7 and very expensive crafting process to even get your build kickstarted (at which point most of the league is already lvl 95+) means your build is SHIT to start a new league with

>>143542174
him getting #1hc, why aren't you following conversation?
retard

>>143510690
Thank you based Freeposter. You are a god among men.

>>143542274
>You NEED everything that guy has to use SRS
>>143542286
>Still can't speak English
poeg is on fire today
Is it American prime-time?

lol what's wrong with you people

>>143542240
yeah all those CA builds running around
oh wait, there isn't anyone because you need a +3 bow with empower and a leo mod to even begin to compete with ED

so which is better, ED or CA? perhaps the one that doesn't need a 10ex investment to get started.

>>143542447
>if it scales highly with investment it's shit

>>143542447
6l +2 bow is 2-3 ex ????

also you dont have to stop for 4 seconds every time you try to cast something

you clearly didnt play ca so please educate yourself before you start talking you only riddicule yourself

>>143542407
the difference between a +3 staff with level 3 empower and a +2 staff is FOUR levels of SRS, if you understood anything about scaling, you'd know the difference is MASSIVE

so while his build will reach respectable clear speed with the investment you expect a level 100 to reach after hundreds of hours, it's not going to be anything close on a budget +2 staff

this is what people mean when they say it's bad, retard.

>>143542591
To be fair you took a meme seriously. You're the retard. Everybody knows SRS AI is balls. It's repeated daily.

all you people act like for voltaix spark to start working you need lvl 21 corrupted spark + 6l voltaxic otherwise it simply does nothing

like do you even think before you speak?

k mainly just this guy
>>143542591
>>143542447

desu you're all retards. u are build is shit, the #1 guy's build is shit too, and in all honesty, ur wasting you're time

>>143542714
yeah bro every good build and skill has a switch where it goes from 0 dps to 10000000000000000 dps instantly. the switch is good gear and high level. scrubs everywhere i swear.

>>143542407
kys

>>143542567
I played CA extensively before it got nerfed to the ground
you know nothing retard
anyway, the numbers don't lie:
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Caustic_Arrow
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Essence_Drain
Level 20 ED: 809 base dps
Level 22 CA: 689 base dps

even with a +2 level advantage, CA is roughly 15% WEAKER than ED. How shit is that?

the ONLY support that tips in CA's favor is Conc Effect as opposed to CD for ED (59% more against 44% more) but even that is not enough

not even accounting for single target damage where ED is roughly 3-4 times better than CA
>>143542647
>I was just pretending
fuck off already

>>143542880
>being this new
>being this much of a redditor

>>143542952
you just got told sit the FUCK down

>>143543013
you just got btfo sit the FUCK down

>>143543058
suck my dick retard
stay forever bad and thinking bad skills are good because some autist reached 100 with it

>>143542880
you are right in the sense that ca has a lower dmg ceiling than ed

but in terms of clearspeed they are pretty much equal as you have to spread ed with contagian first while you can just fire a ca
also slower cast speed for both of those to happen

imo the only thing ed does way better than ca at the moment is the fact that they cheat out so much extra dmg through consuming dark for single target

and yes
they fucked ca up hard
but its still a perfectly fine spec to play even without lvl 4 empower and +3 bow

>>143543106
suck my dick retard
stay forever bad and thinking good skills are bad because some autist shit-posts about it

>>143543134
>but in terms of clearspeed they are pretty much equal
fucking lol
did you ever play ED in your life

you have LOWER damage with CA and LOWER AoE than Contagion because you're forced to use Conc Effect to even come close to ED's damage

so why would you use a skill that is WORSE than another and needs a higher investment????? your stupidity is baffling

>>143543248
>two skills that synergise is better than one skill
wow anon ur a genius neck yourself

>just got 36/40 as SSF
Say whatever you want about this league, but I really liked it.

>>143538169
Passive Skill Tree will ALWAYS scare casuals, that's how things will ever be no matter how much you want to irony and meme it.

>>143543248
>ca with 100% pierce and if you chose so second projectile has lower spread than contagion
>also completely ignoring the fact that one target has to die first for ed to spread

at this point i think you are just trying to bait

its ok that you like ed more than ca
so do i

Speaking of ED, what class/ascendancy for them? Never done ED and would like to try the memes out. Any particular uniques to use?

>>143543354
if you're clearing trash content, contagion spread will be faster than you spamming CA clouds

if you're clearing hard content, ED+Contagion will also be faster (by virtue of being 20-30% stronger)

if you're against single target, CA does.... absolutely nothing, while ED can have something like 10k dps + poison

there is literally no scenario where CA wins over ED except kiting

>>143543583
>if you're clearing trash content, contagion spread will be faster than you spamming CA clouds
lol

How good is that totem leech buff now?

Can I bring back my max strength meme build?

Also what do you guys think is the best strength melee skill now overall? Still earthquake?

Was looking to do a gladiator or juggernaut for once

>>143543539
scion was best for FREE pierce and second proj
now it looks not AS strong
probably not best choice anymore


occultist works fine
probably new best choice especially for LL

could go for memes with RF EF in trickster for the inc regen

saw ppl do it with champion
you reach points where is virtually impossible to die

i could imagine deadeye but at that point iam just memeing to be honest

>>143543583
>spamming clouds
the point is that you dont SPAM clouds but instead pop one down and keep on walking

>>143543703
>I can run, shoot, run, shoot, run shoot faster than a half screen wide aoe spread
lol

furthermore you're bringing character-tied stats (attack speed, movement speed) which is unrelated to the skill vs skill comparison itself

>>143543730
eq might be strongest but lets wait for that new daresso slash maybe its overscaled

if you go eq i could reccomend gladiator varunastra max block its a lot of fun with good clearspeed thanks to based whirling blades
can also go crit but i think thats more suited to softcore

>>143543867
Is that sword going to be available? I was under the impression it was league specific

>>143543730
>How good is that totem leech buff now?
1% is pretty strong for damage you don't even have to actively cast

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Shitty MTX finder I just put up on the web store in case you fags lose your shit as often as I do.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/path-of-exile-mtx-finder/cddmfbpaknohapfbdpkoidanfmfakkmi

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I thought RF was supposed to be fuck-huge now with the 40% increased AoE buff? This is a +73% radius RF (all AoE from tree inc Scion + increased radius gem)

>>143543776
Yes i literally can, while you need to shit out 2 skills every pack

>>143544034
That's a pretty big ring for you

That's almost rock thrower range

>>143543746
>LL
What about CI? Wouldn't mind trying CI but always hated not having pots or a way to quickly regen up my ES.

Champion ED sounds odd like it'd do no damage. I'll look around at builds for ideas.

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>they axed free pierce for ed scion
B-But I liked having free damage.

>>143543910
oh shit you are right
thats a bummer

yeah then something around the lines of juggernaut with a good mace is best

on a side note cyclone still works fine
i just think everybody grew tired of it

>>143543730
also totem leech is awesome as a whole new mechanic

flame totem basically becomes even more tanky and easy to play

what max str build are you talking about?

>>143544034
you dont need conc effect to clear maps
maybe only for the boss

so if you take that out its pretty huge
the ES version is better nonetheless

>>143544047
i need to do 2 actions for 10 packs and I can whirl faster than you can blink arrow so no you're still losing

>>143544214
That RF is just RF + Inc AoE, that's it.

I wonder what the largest reliable RF is (no on-kill buffs/memes) Not a whole lot more I imagine. Sad to see it's so small.

>tfw 50k cadiro coins saved up
He never gave me any good deal. I hope I can use them in the future if they implement some shit in standard.

>>143544160
if you go ci why not go with the occultist regen cant be stopped thing?

then its regen per enemy killed vs additional curse

>>143544294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjnCHufjN7A&feature=youtu.be

its big enough trust me

>>143544206
you can use a poacher's aim jewel for 95% pierce

>>143544214
>I think everyone is tired of it
I refuse to ever play cyclone again. I don't even want to use it with RF
>what max str build
Dual wield Doon Cuebiyari with Alberons warpath and other str shit. Take as many str and life nods on the tree and then iron will.

>>143544382
What would you even use IW with now days?

>>143544446
literally any spell
are you stupid

>>143544331
>that RF
so jelly, always wanted to go pure RF but it's so annoying and expensive to make it as good as other builds

>>143544382
was kinda asking for the main spell used famalam
with dual maces everything appears a bit slow to me id think

Having read the patch notes, would you say it's fair to say Essence Drain got left pretty much untouched? Unless you used the daggers.

>>143544034
should've went hierophant for the 20% aoe senpai.

>>143544478
That isn't the question. Just because you can doesn't mean it'd be any good. Are you new here?

>>143542407
>Is it American prime-time?
it's literally 5 in the morning, retard

>>143543910
it is league specific

>>143544354
I feel like I could go for 20% pierce on the skill tree but I don't know if I want to spend 5 points in doing so. Maybe it can relatively balance out when I get Witch starting location with 8 ascendancy points.

>>143544446
You can use flame totems with the leech now, that was my original comment

It was already unkillable, now it'll be even better

>>143543746
For ES based ED, Occultist is hands down best. Trickster second

Scion (trickster+occultist) is still probably the best choice for life based ED, if you're not going RF

Deadeye would be second

Duelist is trash now, unless you do max block I guess

>>143544563
So for NEETs, yes prime time.

>>143544034
use empire's grasp firestorm to bring enemies closer.

>>143544528
the conversion fix does not affect ED in any shape or form?

also pierce from scion ascendancy got gutted so lets see about that

still best skill that can start of zero investment and can be scaled riddiculously high later on

>>143544674
think we reached consesus on that

>>143544537
That is RF + 73%. 20% ain't ganna do much.

Scion ED is still optimal as far as I'm concerned, also one of the few builds that benefits from a Scion start now that her Berserker ascendancy is straight up terrible

>>143544761
how is a 20%+ increase not much
people use a carcass just for the +20% aoe

Anyone else find this on kill shit getting increasingly annoying?

>>143544910
It's not like many bosses don't have adds these days though...

Most packs should be dying in one hit these days so it's not too bad

>>143544895
It's to point out the radius size, anon. Not questioning the viability. That tiny AoE is +73%. A further 20% isn't going to do much. If +73% is JUST that, it's disappointing. Personally, anyway. Was contemplating RF but fuck no now.

>>143544910
Yeah I've more-or-less always disregarded gimmicky and unreliable shit like that.

>>143544910
GGG is pushing the clear speed meta

be powerful if you killed within the last 4 seconds, and shit without

probably why so many people bought twinned daresso in perandus, no one wants to deal with a hard boss that has no adds

>>143544783
reaching the 100% pierce breakpoint + the seconds proj were the best things about it

now we go back to 80% pierce
BUT the additional 2 ascendancy do absolutely nothing on ascendant so thats bitter

occultist its LITERALLY unchanged and that was my go to choice

id say
life based -> stay scion
hybrid-> kill yourself
es -> occultist

>>143544910
Yes. As soon as they introduced the "recently" mechanic I was annoyed.

>>143545027
Twinned kaom was so much easier if you had patience

Is everyone a glass cannon now? I haven't been paying attention

>>143544783
>>143545049
Why would you give up the benefits of a real Ascendancy just to start Scion, even on life based? What benefit does it have?

>>143545049
Second proj isn't as big deal like it is for CA though

And like >>143544354 said, 95% pierce with one jewel, and it's not like scions lack for jewels

Still probably better to go trickster and shadow start so you're right by the pierce nodes though

>>143545137
>glass cannon
Not as much, but more than ever, yes. Even HC players aren't so tanky. Basically no one goes max block anymore.

Scion was always supposed to be the jack-of-all-trades master of none class, if you're going for a cookie cutter build then no shit you're better off starting with any other class, especially with ascendancies

people crying because GGG took their free 7th LL link are retarded

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>>143544325
I was starting to lose hope too but then I gave me a divinarius and carcass jack today. If you're really desperate, try sniping Cadiro deals from /global 820

>>143545262
Well she needs to be good at something or there's no reason to have her in the game.

>>143545262
>master of none
The access to many things was up until now the most beneficial for builds that required spreading across the tree

Now it's just master of none

>>143545262
>>143545316
Also I don't particularly care about the LL node, they just need to balance the entirety better, which I'm sure they will...eventually

let's say i'm pure ES witch bitch with no armor and barely any evasion

which one would be better, granite or basalt flask?

IW Berserker is literally better than Scion for spellcasting builds now

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for a pizzablaster
why go people go for the save one point when the stats are already worth it on the right side while the cannot be intrrupted is highly beneficial to flameblast?

>>143545549
basalt

>>143545593
>1% of damage leeched as mana
literally F R E E spells

>>143545549
depends, granite is better for small hits, basalt is better for moderate to large hits

stibnite is probably better than either of those for melee attackers, considering you're halving their chance to hit (thus essentially halving incoming physical damage)

>>143545549
granite of iron skind with 30% flask effect will give more protection against physical hits of 2600 and lower, than basalt with 30% flask effect

>>143545187
Because scion has the best start for the life wheel and curse effectiveness nodes, and the "real" ascendancies that aren't occultist aren't that great for ED that you're gimped by taking the scion versions of them

>>143545647
that pathing is retarded
whoever made that tree also wasted 1 point connecting elemental overload and cruel preparation when they could have pathed north of the jewel socket

>>143545647
i usually go up through fire walker

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Reminder to paint your builds.

>>143545774
shit didnt even notice that retardism

just clicked the first elementalists flameblaster to have rough outline to see what people go for on stats

guess ill just whip up something myself again

usually fares way better

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What are you having for breakfast today lads?

>>143545894
CoC?

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>>143545647
>babbystone
kys faggot

>>143545647
>chrome
>reddit bookmarks
>steam
>lol
>hearthstone
>blizzard launch
your average yuropoor poeg dweller, everyone

>>143545957
Clean your fucking desk you yuropoor ex-commie satellite state shitcrow.

>>143545976
dude check all the bookmarks
you will find comics by a semi feminist
gothic 2 mods
fucking animals comics from 9gag
watching yoji in the background

just wonder that hearthstone is the most shocking to you

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>>143545976

>>143545957
that doesn't count as a snack for me
how is that breakfast to you? do you weigh 120 lbs?

>>143545974
not sure. I would guess it is 1h ele hit witch or 1h wildstrike witch.

>>143546234
All the power charges around the character leads me to believe it's CoC not wild strike

Unless it's crit wild strike or some shit like that

>>143546170
I expect I'm around 90-100 kilos.
>>143546092
Rude.

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>>143545894

Let's talk free

What is the best possible support gem from ascendancy you can get for free?

Is it fortify?

>>143546393
Prolif probably

>free

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>>143546315
i think i have 1 or 2 cocs. For the memes it has to be 1h witch ele hit.

>>143546382
Dread thicket

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>>143546382
>>143545894

where does this autistic feeling come from all of a sudden?

>>143546382
gj anon, nice detail on the rain.

>>143546453
That's my point, it's opportunity cost

Which is the best free

>>143546542
Never seen this build before
I've been playing since ascendancy ;)

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>>143545894

>>143546393
the best ascendancies give you things you cannot get elsewhere desu (elemental conflux for elementalist for example)

that being said, free poison from pathfinder or free chain (with no damage penalty) from deadeye are pretty insane

Can this CI poison BV berseker work?

Poison double-dips with the berserker damage bonus, and CI doesn't mind vaal pact for cloaked in savagery. Also, ES is less likely to get one-shot.

Marauder start sucks for CI, but you can convert some of the life nodes to ES with energy from within.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAECAMbYWGO_CPhfPfwkN1_QjM8W6SGQ9kiYV-oQXz_BBHloqW7AGngNbzu18m6qSsg_JypNX5h9W1ltrEfPMlFMykpvnl-wgwmbtUZxwzqExbQMGYoqOCLq6rrK0_sJ6NYNfDQKvor22ud0V8k3ZpMnoS8aj9sabWwo-iymbAt_xu-IEHu1SILHuJOQ1iL0wcX5N7461ELrYx2-HNxtGewY18_1S4RvES8zh-vujxoRUNlbl_Qsv0mxwQB1_QPuMtE1uRslUlMV1xa_RUenK0uul5U9X4auaozAZukCTLNWY_VvPAVFftAfyBSf3-98Dlzv66LZavqw2A==

>>143546656
i cant explain but somehow this comment confuses me

>>143546542
summoner with many auras, zombies, 4 big ribbon specters and a fire golem?

>>143546660
big guy. n1 senpai

>>143546775
Zombie builds are sparse probably

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>>143545894

>>143546769
paint a picture, i ain't clicking that

>>143546769
first off this
http://poeurl.com/home.php
gonna have a look at that in a moment

>>143546783
almost
thats the flesh offering

>>143546820
this might be
well it doubles as a support so i think ill do fine

>>143546095
there's literally nothing wrong with gothic 2

>>143546769
you have 30 travelling points before you even reach your first damage node
how does that work out for you exactly?

>Always poison on HIT while using a flask.

Do hits with spells count as "hits"?

>>143546949
Spells that hit, yes.

>>143546783
>>143546656

a bit sad that no one noticed my OG Midnight Bargain but thats ok...

>>143546769
i think you are at the point where another ascendancy would just be much better
think pathfinder (also does the poison thing)

>>143546769
savage hits don't with with es f@m

How do I git gud?

>>143546846
oh okay. I'm not to familiar with summoner builds.
>>143547023
I noticed it but couldn't remember the name for it.

>>143546839
simple. your character doesn't seem to be enjoying the build though, maybe lack of clear speed? Maybe something to work on there.

>>143547090
Stop being shit

>>143547082
*don't work with es

>>143547090
watch mathil's stream as often as you can

>>143547112
think thats just him fighting ice form piety

>>143547179
i know its just ironic shitposting
i hope at least

but this comment makes me so mad

>>143546883
underappreciated gem

>>143547112
>doesn't seen to be enjoying it
That's as happy as someone can get in hardcore, shit crow, he's relatively enthralled

>>143547090
A comprehensive guide on how to be real good like at Path of Exile

Step one, roll your flasks

Done

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So Qarl confirmed Juggernauts get max endurance charges with Unrelenting:
https://twitter.com/QarldeV/status/736129164160307200

meaning that with a 8 endurance charges baseline (3 base, 3 from tree, 1 from merc Oak, 1 from Juggernaut), Juggernauts are virtually immune to physical damage with a simple CWDT 1 - IC 3 setup:

0.4+0.4*1.06*8 = 3.8s immortal call

if you throw in a 20/20 inc duration, this becomes

0.4*1.74+0.4*1.06*8 = 4.1s immortal call

self-sustainable with enduring cry even if you don't get hit (20% to gain an endurance charge if you do)

How is this considered balanced?

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>>143546845
Ok anon

>>143547082
oh right, shit.

in what other ways can i mitigate having no regen from VP?

>>143547356
ooh looking good senpai
tanky, mean and hopefully does damage.

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>>143547090
follow this guide by havoc (universally considered the best hc poe player in the world)

>>143547343
Cause you still die to ele damage, I guess?

Still pretty fucking OP though

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>>143545894
Here's one more QtPaint for your collection my friend.

>>143547343
Because you have to keep using enduring cries

Enough for me to not play it

>>143547343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLLNKkpZt1I
Because this will still happen

>>143547780
unflinching gives you 20% chance to gain an endurance charge on hit

you can also link ECoMS on trigger gems or your movement skill

shouldn't be too hard to be at 8 endurance charges all the time

>>143547493
>form your own opinions
Literally the worst idea for a new player
>don't play when tired
>implying my autopilot isn't superior to awake mode
Fucking casual

>>143547683
quality
infernal blow from the boom?
I like that you and your mace are happy together.

>>143547941
Thanks :)
Yeah that IB.

>>143547913
everyone here would be a much better player if they did the math on their own and tested shit in game instead of parroting what everyone else/reddit claims

>>143547821
>facetanking Vagan
No, it wont

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you're all noobshits

i bet most of you haven't even into'd the top50 at any point

git gud

GGG is in my opinion, hands down, the best company I have ever seen when it comes to being a live game developer. Managing player expectations, giving us more content, game balance, expansions, admitting mistakes, not treating us like a bunch of gibbering fools & a good F2P model. (They are not perfect of coursebut so damn close).

They are so good in fact I often find myself thinking of other companies "This company should send their teams to intern over at GGG so they can learn the things." I play a lot of games and I've noticed I'm very pessimistic with all of them, except PoE.

So for Chris and his team of amazing comrades you have set a high standard which most companies fail to live up to. I kind of hate you for it...but I love you guys. How do you do it?

Apologies for any weirdness in this post I'm extremely tired but wanted to say this while it was on my mind.

>>143547821
>voltaxic poison spark
Good riddance.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/10318263/r
Which class are you playin in 2.3? reddit poll

Elementalist is the clear #1

>>143548013
>everyone here is autistic
the point is that new players need to learn how to play the game first so they don't fuck off after failing their guaranteed shit builds

Recommending premades is better and shitters can learn afterward.

In fact most premades give long autistic explanations anyway

>>143548138
Fuck off Reddit we are already posting our builds in paint form.