/twg/ - Total War General

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Daily reminder Bretonnians have the best seige towers

VC or Chaos for my next campaign?

Which one stays challenging the longest and doesn't just turn into a steamroll after 60 turns?

Anyone using this mod?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691006940&searchtext=

I like everything it claims to do but would like a second onion

>>143607283

Chaos turns into a steamroll after 15 turns if you stack Growth skills. Do VC, it's a little bit better.

>>143607283

Chaos is challenging for awhile but not in a fun way

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if > 50 franz

else gelt

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IF OUR PRINCE IS TO BECOME EMPEROR

SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS

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you came to the wrong waaagh

>if you sack a settlement, the AI's broken income will just fix it so you can occupy it next turn

Neat

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>last dwarf quest requires 2k trade income to progress
>everyone is either dead or hates me
well fuck

So Ungrim is the Slayer King. Dose that mean he's the most shameful dwarf of all?

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Just started, this is my first Total War game, but god damn I love warhammer not to have got it.

Was going to do first play through as Dwarves on normal, VC on hard, then Empire or Orcs on Legend.

Are there any notable differences between the Lords, or is it mostly just a choice of "This guy is a melee badass, this guy is a supportive badass, this guy is a badass with a pointy hat"?

And any general advice? Still getting used to just the movement. Not used to having to move each unit individually to get the best out of them.

>>143607701
Dorfs have the worst quest requirements, like needing gyrocopters just for the first one

>>143607787
Go with the melee lord.

Magic is horrible right now.

>>143607416

>>143607416

>>143607416

>>143607787
don't go above hard difficulty, there's no point

>>143607787
Melee lords shit on magic lords.

HAMMER
&
ANVIL

Big bird was kinda disappointing. I was expecting a challenge and instead he went down in about 5 seconds flat, first enemy unit to die.

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>>143607393
I can second this. Did Chaos for my first run, built growth, and then just ran around the map utterly decimating everything. Just stuck with Archaon and he became such a beast so quickly that nothing stood much in the way.

>>143607765
If I remember correctly his ancestor shamed himself, but was also a king so could not abandon his duty. And since said king has offspring, they inherited the throne and the shame.

>>143607701
I want to do the quests but I just can't afford the time to replenish troops afterwards and 5k with these fucking orc doomstacks on my ass

>Border princes went to war with the dorfs and are razing all their settlements and cucking their stacks

Thanks man gitz, we'll kill you a bit fasta'

Playing this game has rekindled my urge to open up my old fantasy armies and start collecting again.

Convince me not to...please...

>>143608048
The biggest mistake you can make as Chaos is bothering at all with Norsca, I did that for 50 turns and by the time I left the Human factions has loads of stacks

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So good. And the fact that they got blasting charges makes them even better.

Iv been spamming quarrellers and these guys. Autowin

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>tfw really want that green fart cloud from the vampire trailer back
>tfw somehow it felt cool to me

>>143607289

It's good. Make the fights last long enough to be enjoyable, but they don't drag on like in Radious. The only negative change, imo, is to zombies. They're just too fucking slow in this mod. Otherwise, yeah, would recommend.

>Managed to confederate red fangs before killing Gorfang

Neat, get to make him my bitch

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>143608319
Did the same. Every army was 2 Organ Guns, 2 Cannons and the rest filled up with Ironbreakers and Quarrelers.

>>143608319
Too bad about the annoying building requirements holding them off for a long time

>>143608517
>>143608382

You're falling apart anon

>>143607227
JESUS CHRIST

How do I stop myself from putting everything in the usual melee front/missiles behind lineup?

I want to make use of the Empires Greatswords but it is so damn tedious to have them walk around the enemies which are engaging my swordsmen so I can rear charge.

At this point I might aswell use cav.

>>143604509
if you hold down RMB with shift you can drag/paint an actual path for the unit to follow. It's quite good.

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Is the anon that made the wider firing arcs for missile troops and artillery still here? Or does anyone have the link to that mod?

Also is there any mod for Vamptits that removes the makeup without making her Sharia law compliant?

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>turn 100
>end times
>kislev has fallen
>counts united under the EMPEROR
>imperial dwarven hugbox complete
>northern limes garrisoned and fortified
>everyone has military access through the safe, uncorrupted and developed lands of the EMPIRE

cont.

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>dwarf campaign
>autoresolve everything cause a million dwarf warrior armies is boring to use
>take over all the the south eastern area
>fucking orcs keep sending troops up north where i have few troops, cant beat them without fighting the battle
>FUCKING TOP KNOTZ
>quit

What do i do now, i already won the empire campaign.

So now that the dust is settled it's shit, right?

>>143608802

Nice, by the time Archaon was invading I had only united the north and southern counts

>>143608651
Deploy formations unbeknownst to mankind.

>>143608651
Replace Swordmen with Greatswords.

Charge with Greatswords.

Flank with cav.

Greatswords are literally gods in stats and effectiveness compared to normal swordsmen, you should have made this change ages ago.

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>>143608278
>tfw I spent 100 turns just conquering the tribes

It almost wasn't worth it, given they basically all died without doing anything.

Almost.

There's already a mod to unlock all factions, now just to wait for mods to change their rosters.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=692261380

>>143608651
Greatswords don't need to flank to destroy the enemy.

>>143608825
>dwarf
>boring

I think you're boring.

>>143608950
>>143609090
I was concerned about having my elite troops being shot to shit by missiles sinces they dont have shields.

>>143609043
why the fuck does everybody stick in the north when even quests point you towards the southern areas

by staying in the north you literally fight against yourself and your potential allies, instead of fighting against actual enemies

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Is Warhammer Total War worth picking up right now?

>>143609175
Well i'm sorry but before you get stuff like irondrakes and advanced artillery they're the most boring shit ever.

>>143607787
For very hard and above, always melee lords.

If you really like suffering, Gelt on legendary.

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>>143608802
>literal rape train of legendary chaos lords marching down in perfect column
>thorgrim and grimgor have been marching alongside each other to be the first to drink from bird jugular
>thorgrim and grimgor have been marching alongside each other

anything can happen

I really wish they had an option to opt in or out of watching AI battles during the end turn. Even if I'm not fighting I don't want to miss grimgor and thorgrim setting aside their rivalry to tag team sigvald's boipussy

>>143609213
That's only a problem if you actually try to flank with them cause then they'll be shot in the back.
If you charge head on the enemy can't shoot them without friendly fire.

>>143609043
Seriouslly, whats the point in uniting the tribes? Just wastes time getting crappy allies while your true enemies sit back and grow.

>>143609213
70 armor is worth more than shielded.

>>143607507
>mfw won the empire short campaign but decided to keep going because there's only 4 vampire count settlements i need to take for the long one
>declare war on vampire counts
>next turn see an army that looks a lot like yours in the same place

i'll just try some other race for now

also is it just me or do the luminarks suck ass? rather just use mortar or something cheaper or steam tanks

Is there a specific hero that is the best at spreading Vampiric Corruption, or will any of them work?

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>Send Ungrim all the way up into Sylvania to his first quest battle
>Vampire Count ghost that wasn't even visible on the map when it started moving travels 300 miles and scores a critical assassination attempt on him

WHO THE FUCK BALANCED AGENTS

I'LL RAPE THEIR FAMILY

so what other dlc are we getting before the next stand alone expansion?
Bretonnia and what else? Any ETA on when the next big expansion is coming? 30 hours in right now having a lot of fun but I since I don't play multiplayer I don't see more then 90~ hours of playtime

>>143609454
>>143609223

I did it for fun. You know, that thing you're suppose to have while playing Total War?

>>143609468
Luminark is straight broken right now because broken damage scaling

Just make steam tanks

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>>143607081

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQrdKtPJxI0
>MFW 30 grand a sack as Chaos

>>143609530
Yes, I'm sure doing nothing for 100 turns in frozen wastelands while fighting against hordes of mounted skirmishers is very fun.

>>143608825
Grab a master engineer and some organ guns and cannons. Then press K and watch shit go flying.

If you could be any non hero, non leader unit from total warhammer, what would it be and why?

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>>143609686

>veins

muh dick

How do I get started on the chaos campaign? Do I have to disband everything and make autoresolve stacks like Legend of Total War?

>>143609686
...

I want to play vampire counts just because this. I know fuck all how to play them though since my first (and only) campaign so far has been their complete opposite: dwarves.

Any tips for dealing or postponing Lord of Change as Chaos near / after Turn 105?

>>143609850

Terrorgheist

only because they look badass in game.

also has anyone noticed they don't do their bat scream CA showed off?

never seen em do the scream once

>>143609850
Nuln engineer

Just chill in Nuln figuring out new ways to blow up Skaven crawling around in the sewers

>>143607832

Kemmler needs a wight king for his first one, locked behind a damm tier V settlement

>>143610090
But you can get a lucky random event and get a Wight for free (like I did)

You can't get a random card of Gyros.

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>>143609854
>>143609919

>>143610090
At least you can RNG a wight king with events

What do I invest my points in when playing Archaon?

>>143609850

Chaos Chosen

For that sick af armour

>>143610305
The horde growth skill as fast as possible

>>143607289
YOU CANT COOK SPAGHETTI WITH JUST ONE ONION

>>143610305

Horde growth, then his combat skills. He is an absolute beast when upgraded.

>>143609243
It's the best TW release yet, and it's a very fun game.

>>143610331

>Greatsword landsknecht comes up
>chops you in half while wearing 1/5 the armor and looking 10x classier

What are these skidrow torrents popping up? Did the game actually get cracked or what?

>>143610305
>Movement range
>Horde Growth per turn
>Fireball, Kindleflame
>24 more levels of Character skills to become god
>get the Skull, the Shroud, and Evasion.

You are now a fire-ball spouting fast lord with 900 weapon damage and are literally death incarnate.

If you don't go for the growth talents you can get 3 more points for either 3 more magic skills or can grab like 9 melee defense.

>>143610305
Horde growth

Then the whole campaign just becomes out waiting on Horde growth while sacking settlements.

Seriouslly, the population growth thing needs to be tweaked for chaos, makes them boring as fuck. That or I'm doing something wrong, which is a distinct posibility.

>>143609919
Second on this one. Is it mostly just taking lots of expendables while your big dudes do the work?

>>143609243
Yes

>already burned out
RELEASE MORE FACTIONS CA

LET ME GIVE YOU MONEY

Opinions on kholek?

Does he do enough work to make stand out from archaeon?

>>143609850

Demigryph Knight. Bet it would be awesome to bond with one of those beasts, riding him into battle.

>warhammer game
>no in-game army painter

you had one job Creative Assembly.

one.

job.

>>143610895
Archaon can already become a kill everything deal machine. Kholek trades magic for being slightly better early and late as a death machine in melee.

>Border princes keep razing dorf lands

STOP

THATS MY JOB YOU GITS

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In Total War, Kislev invades you!

>tfw I invested all the way through Archaon's magic tree

feels so bad man. At least I haven't recruited kholek or siggy

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Ha the imperial dogs think they can fight.

>>143610987
DLC

it's actually in the game files, but I doubt it will be free

>>143611196
If they add Kislev I wonder how they'll balance them out so they dont just march north and destroy the tribes before Chaos arrives

>>143611338
just add massive attrition for human factions in the north

>>143611338
By having Chaos spawn early. And having huge ass corruption from the get go.

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Well, my Empire campaign is done.

I really could probably get one of the victory conditions but it would essentially be me sending Panzergruppe Feuerbach(Retaining the name in remembrance, Vampire Cunts assassinated him) everywhere to clean up rebels and the last of the vamps. In other words, really unexciting and boring.

So what did I learn from this campaign? Steam tanks are overpowered as fuck and all you need to win the game.

is it just me or does the AI not use some of it's big bad units?

I played as empire on hard and the vampire counts never had terrorgheists, hexwraiths, or cairnwraiths utilized only some grave guard.

does the AI just avoid their use?

>>143611338
make some empire factions start at war with them

>>143611418
That already exists

>>143611548
>VC

That's the problem. Haven't seen any of the vampire factions do well yet.

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>>143607227
>>143608608
Elderberries

>>143611709

senpai I don't think I have seen any factions other than the chaos factions with some big baddies in them.

and event hen the chaos horde doesn't get it's bullshit tier dragon ogre shaggoths from what I have seen.

I want to fuck a pair of vamp tits.

Playing WHTW is making me want to go back and play one of the earlier games instead. I miss things like family trees and wish they had included them even if they were just for comedic effect in the case of orcs and the "X's Chosen" for the Chaos or something. It's part of why I really like the Dwarfs, the grudges give me something tangible for roleplaying and hunting down those who wrong me. It's hard for me to care about things like that if I'm playing VC or Chaos because their units are expendable.

lizards when??

>>143607854
Yeah, this game realllllly needs some love in a patch pretty soon.

Unit balance issues aside, Magic is actually broken garbage right now, and some spells don't even work right.

Fate of Bjuna for example will cast ON THE CATAPULTS and not on the crews. Like, some of it is actually retarded.

Spend all those winds and.... you watch your spell do 5% damage to some pieces of wood instead of kill the people. Nice.

so are you better off speccing Lord's with combat skills or going fot the unit bonuses? the campaign skill tree seems really situational

Is Total War: Warhammer worth the full price? I got laid off this week so i'm having a hard time justifying the full price.

>>143607954
Sometimes seemingly for no reason too.

Mannfred for example has good/better melee stats than a lot of Lords but will get demolished by some that he should seemingly beat.

Game's just a little strange and non-intuitive here and there with the stats.

>>143608319
The charges actually suck on larger unit sizes because splash/spell damage doesn't scale correctly

>>143611497

So, anyways, I've been wanting to get more into the Scuffleslammer lore. Anybody got book recommendations?

>>143612205

Only if you really like Warhammer. Otherwise playing any of the previous games should scratch the same itch.

mod that disables fog when

>>143611548
Saw a terrorgheist once but I think it was a quest battle, not sure.

>>143611709
In the game that I won with dwarfs, VC and Templehof survived. VC was actually in Bretonnia fucking with their shit and Templehof probably just survived because nobody gave a fuck about them.

Fun fact, there was another minor faction near Bretonnia that survived the whole campaign with just one territory.

I killed the vamps for fun

Is there a specific agent that I should use for spreading corruption as the VCs or will any of them work?

>>143608375
>but they don't drag on like in Radious
really? cause i'm using radious right now and the battles seem pretty faster (~6min).

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>>143608748
Can anyone help me out here? Iv looked around on TWC and Steam cant find it, but I know the guy posted up here with a mediafire or something akin to that link. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Firing arcs are super narrow.

>every orc tribe at war with the savage orcs

I guess they really hate orc bible thumpers

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What the fuck is happening

Is there a mod that makes griffons, Deathclaw and demigriffs anatomically correct males?

>>143612694
>Saw a terrorgheist once but I think it was a quest battle, not sure.

as empire on hard I saw a zombie dragon in balthasar gelts quest and a terrorgheist when I besieged drakenhof.

but the AI never bought the units and they had the buildings for some very dangerous stuff but stuck with basic skellingtons.

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>>143612975
No.

>>143612948
Corruption can make AI chaos spawn.

>>143613013
Yeah mine was on hard aswell, but since dorfs don't need to fight VC to win I just never bothered. The times I did they had pretty shitty armies and the only somewhat hard fight was the level 5 garrison.

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>>143613120
I thought Opinici were suppose to be more like dragons with a camel's tail. Like this pic.

>>143608825
it's like you want your name in the book

>see a border prince stack go by as orcs
>15 pistoliers

Jesus christ

>>143612745
assuming the hero skill trees are the same as the empires equivalent unit banshees should be able to get plus 6 instead of 3 with other heroes

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can i just say:

holy shit. I was losing hope in the Total War franchise. Shogun II seemed like a misfire in the shit cannon the company was blasting for a decade

even the tutorial guy isn't an annoying cunt

GW's zealous oversight seems to be working time and time again

What's a good build for Mannfred on a VC campaign?

I don't want to make him a solid spell caster since he's not Kemmler, but it just feels like his combat skills are shitty after the joy of playing Archaon.

Spirit leech or whatever is OP and literally 2-shot the enemy hero on Ultra Unit size, but there's no direct way to change its damage or anything so I dunno where to go with him.

Is investing in battle skills worth it? I have yet to play a hero who I've gone with a red skill tree.

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FACT: Gobboz iz ze MOS STRONGEST gitz in ze OL WORLD

>>143613764
Kill yourself shill.

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>>143613764
>GW's zealous oversight seems to be working time and time again

>>143613797
French goblin?

>>143610527
>mfw on both tabletop and in lore Chosen would destroy Greatswords so hard it's not funny
>nah let's make them a hard counter
>CA confirmed for Empire players

>>143613830
i'll shill for a good game i don't give a shit you faggot

this game is making my dick diamonds like OG rome did back in the day

>>143613867
what was the last major release from GW that was a dud? they've all been at least a 6.5-7/10

>get told as orcs Ill be in the red a lot
>43 turns in with 4 armies I make 5k a turn

Guess not

BRETTONIA FULLY RELEASED WHEN
I want my cav

>>143613983
How would one write greenskin speak in French? Use Quebec French?

>>143614223

tomorrow

>>143614047
Dawn of War 2, Space Marine, Soulstorm, Mordheim, Regicide.

Really dissapointed by the lack of feathers on empire troops.

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Rat fucking shits when?

>>143609213
Missiles suck in this game and Greatswords are overpowered as fuck, so you have nothing to worry about.

>>143613120

Thank Sigmar, for a minute I thought that anon meant something else.

>>143610527
>>143614031
It's pathetic honestly because the Greatsword stats even after the Anti-Infantry bonus is calculated are WAY worse.

Greatswords have armor piercing so it makes you think that's why they win, but they inconsistently 1v1/almost 1v1 Chosen Greatweapons too.

The balance is really fucked up right now

>Kill enemy Lord
>Enemy army holds and keeps fighting

>Enemy look at my Lord the wrong way
>Entire army flees in seconds

VH and Legendary are bullshit settings. Grimgor was level fucking 15 on turn 9. Turn fucking 9. LITERALLY FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE.

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>>143614438
>Dawn of War 2, Space Marine,
both made profit, good product

>Soulstorm,
wasnt that some kind of niche expac? not major release

>Mordheim
perfectly fine turn based. i'd be surprised if it didnt make a profit

>Regicide
it was fucking warhammer: chess it was probably paid for in pizza to some college kids and turned profit just for the theme

nigger are you fucking retarded? what's your criteria for a success? League of Legends?

kill youself my man

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>the final stand of Karl Franz; who during the battle was abandoned by his fellows, and murdered by Carstein

>>143614835
RIP in peace and rise again.

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>>143614835
As the Empire lost its lands; Bretonnia sued for peace, ultimately abandoning their allies.

Further, some smaller dwarven clans began to ally themselves with the vamps.

The orcs would soon fall in line as an ally as well.

Unfamiliar with lore of WH. Vamps ever united the world before? Because this is twisted. It's like they're uniting everyone under a dark banner. I can just see the dwarves slowly giving into the taint and saying "fuck it."

How do I stop the chaos?

>>143614505
My missile units get hundreds of kills every battle its just a matter of using the right tool for the job.

>>143614757
Yeah, enemies get a lot of bonus leadership on legendary.
The worst thing is all the fucking backstabbing and all the money you need to throw to just get a simple non-agression or even trade agreement.

>>143614770
>makes profit
>good
>you're not a shill

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So, the orcs just killed all chaos in my land (Empire) with 200 stacks of waagh and now they're just sitting there doing nothing.

They're literally everywhere.

Should I prepare the lube?

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Borders.

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>>143614835
>implying Sigmar wont just resurrect him when you least expect it and he smacks your shit in as his ascended form

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>>143615182
>you're not a shill
>>143614047
>i'll shill for a good game i don't give a shit you faggot

do you read

>>143614748
>Empire
>supposed to be a jack of all trades, master of none faction
>their infantry is a hard counter to their main rival's highest tier unit
>they have the best cavalry in the game
>their LL, who is an amazing general but an at best barely above average fighter both on tabletop and in lore is a CC monster
GG CA.

>>143614505
>>143615129

Same with me. My 6 quarellers on my main army lasted the whole campaing, they are even OP I would dare to say. They could route enemies with one or two volleys, awesome against trolls.

And quarellers you just either flank or just make sure no one is in front of them and they can melt shit, specially lords.

>>143615581
Shit, meant thunderers on the second line.

>>143614438
get out, DoW2 is a perfectly fine game, by all means. Its subjective whether or not you liked the Company of heroes gamestyle they went with

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>most casualised Total War is also the fastest selling

The end times are really here.

Operation cut features in exchange for some particle effects and physical unit size variety has been a success.

Im not even a historyfag, but I wanted to play total war, not accessible-to-new fags war.

>>143614469

next week

Thank fuck, 50 turns in and I've killed off the dwarves

Now I dont need to deal with their armored bullshit

man, constantly being on the backfoot isn't fun, especially when other races defeat other members of your own race off the bat
was it this bad in previous total war games?

>>143615860
>newfags as an insult
>2016
I'm not sure what's more cancerous, this post or the person who made it.

>>143615949
Did you ever play Attila?

>>143614438
Man, Mordheim had everything to be an awesome game.

It turned out to be pretty meh

>>143615348
>this got me some (you)s once, time to post it every thread!
You're like one of those losers in school who once told a good joke so now they repeat it every day

Playing as VC. Any idea how the Raise Army mechanic actually works? I just won a battle with Mannfred and Varghulf, resulted in over 6000 deaths. No battle site marker spawned afterwards though... I'm unsure why it didn't happen, since I was attacked in an open battle while it wasn't my turn. Anyone know how the raise dead mechanics actually work?

>>143616116
I got bored too early to know what's going on in that game.

>>143616270
bumping this


Also, does anyone feel like the game is too easy? Playing VC and just wiped out the Empire; just waiting on chaos to come and fight me now before I go and fuck the dwarves up.

Compared to Atilla, this game feels easy as shit. Did I just git gud, or?

>>143616270
I guess it needs to be against living people?

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>empire early game
>mopping up successionists, usual deal
>nearby dwarfs declare war on me
>notice they're being sieged by the last impotent successionist army
>a bretonian faction declares war on me as well soon after
>dwarfs peace out after seeing my armies on the horizon, then offer trade
>afraid I have to do the same thing to the chuuni knights too

Anybody noticing some weird diplomatic AI?

Enemy AI is fine. Neutral AI seems... like it doesn't know what game it is in.

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Do you take me for a wazzock?

>Night gobbos have 3 full stacks
>conquer everything around them
>they have no fighty
>wait for them to collapse
>conquer

Brutally cunnin'

Did they take out the 1v1 fights?

>>143615860
It's not the casualisation that is selling it, it's the ridiculously dank as fuck setting.

>VC and Empire playthroughs accessible to newfags
>low difficulty playthroughs were ever non accessible or difficult in any games

keke

>>143616782
Its also fun not to have spearmen vs spearmen fights for 1000 turns

>>143616475
Nah mate, I've had it work on previous campaigns as VC, in almost identical situations where I'm fighting the other counts.

>>143616834
Yeah sorry, I was talking out of my ass

>>143616823
I don't know what the fuck you're doing if all your fights are spearmen vs spearmen for even the first 10 turns.

How are the expansions going to work exactly?

Will the campaign map expand, or will you play different campaigns for different spheres?

>>143616823
But what about Attila? That had you fighting cavalry archers all game. That was fun right? Everyone knows how fun cavalry are to fight.

>>143616823
I think the thing I like most about this game is that the early game doesn't feel like your military is nothing but a bunch of peasants with sharp sticks and a wooden board for a shield.

Even the spearmen actually look nice. Obviously this is due to everything being based off of a tabletop model, but it goes to show you that CA needs to hire a better character designer. The units feel interesting, even if they are technically just a bunch of spearmen.

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>>143614748
>but they inconsistently 1v1/almost 1v1 Chosen Greatweapons too.

Nah

>In almost everyones game the Border Princes absolutely fucking destroy Tilia, Estalia, and Averland
>The Dwarves fucking wreck the greenskins beyond any hope of recovery

I need this to be fixed. How am I supposed to get my sweet Empire vs Orc battles. Im tired of fighting edgy vikings

>>143616963
If they don't expand the map I'm going to be mad.

Babbies first TW game. How do you know how to compose your army? Is there a standard format and you just adapt as units get stronger?

>>143616153
You seem very upset that I'm posting borders. Are your own borders not doing that great?

>>143616525
Yeah, had a game where Marienburg, shitty brets and the dwarfs declared war on me while I tried to chase savage orcs out of my lawn.

I guess the very hard+ AI is just made to fuck with your shit

>>143616937
I think he's saying previous games were spearmen v spearmen

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kek

Can someone give me a small explanation on how vampiric corruption works? Do enemy settlements bordering mine passively get corruption?

Do I need to move my agents inside of enemy provinces to give them corruption or do I need to actually target their buildings?

Do the corruption generating buildings make it spread to nearby cities? I googled it but didn't find a whole lot of specific information.

Is there a list of unique buildings for each faction somewhere?

Does VC have any?

Just putting this out there, if they do a Lustria expansion and don't make Skeggi playable I'm sending anthrax to CA's officer.

>>143616782
I dont know if thats better or worse.

>could have dank setting without casualisation
>CA makes it casual anyway
>CA now assumes they made the right decision so we wont see anything besides the expected factions, map and dlc added to the game

And yea spears got annoying, but now we have almost no spears or hard cavalry counters. Ill be mad if they make phalanx exclusive to elves or something.

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Oh god

Oh god they'll rape me

Why did that stupid fucking Chaos warrior have to successfully assault me four turns in a row?

>>143616270
>win a big fight with mannfred and another lord
>other lord lost some units so check out Raise dead on him after the battle
>nothing but the usual shit
>move him away from mannfred to raid another town
>click on mannfred (who was right next to the other lord originally) with the raise dead menu from the first lord still up
>black knights and crypt ghouls galore

Nope. No idea how it works

>>143617098
EXDE borders lol!!! give me them (you)s haha got them once!
Kill yourself, thanks

>>143617221
That orc has really well groomed nails.

How do I deal with my opponent's missile cavalry as early-game Chaos? That and the dogs constantly outflanking me is a pain, I'm basically relying on my Chaos Warriors and Chosen 24/7 when everyone eventually gets stuck in.

>>143617032
I have bad news, they probably won't.

And to be honest, let's remember how weird E:TW's map got. I would like to see more than just the five factions we have - especially fucking Lizardmen vs. Skaven fights - but you run into limitations pretty quickly.

First of which is that what is happening in Lustria isn't really relevant to the Empire; and honestly the Empire has enough problems with Chaos. European style colonialism would be absurd, especially if the Aztecs are the descendants of fucking Old Ones.

All that said, I would like to see some sort of interplay between the separate campaigns, and some additions to the existing campaigns as well.

For example, let's say the next expansion is revolves around elves, just as a hypothetical. The "Old World" map gets a Wood Elf faction, and a bunch of new quests and diplomacy options in the vein of the European powers in Fall of the Samurai. Maybe a trading outpost or two.

And the elf oriented campaign gets a bunch of empire shit, potentially even "go help the empire" shit.

And when Skaven come around, those fuckers need to be everywhere. Possibly as a late-game menace for the dwarves, haunting the underway.

>>143617032
Surely more factions and regions would slow down the game though?

>>143617269
>hard cavalry counters.
That's halberds/polearms

>>143617325


You are Dawi! You will hold the line and die standing. Zombies and skellies are weak compared to your warriors and longbeards so just watch out for their cav the terrain you get is what will be most important. Also how did weismund get so bad like I mean I know about chaos corruption but damn.

empire is a pain in the ass tbqhwyf

>>143611338
Split Kislev up into more factions.

>>143617357
You are very upset. Sure, Warhammer is a smaller map (and even more limited since there are racial restrictions), but borders from Attila and Rome 2 were posted all the time. Don't see why Warhammer has to be different.

>>143617467
They stated future games will expand the map.

>>143617246
Only the last two levels of the building that generates vampire corruption add it to surrounding provinces. The first one only adds it to its home province

Every named character (Lords, LLs, and heroes) you have in a province adds to its vampiric corruption growth. Don't even have to deploy heroes, they just have to be in it.

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>>143617467
The wording is all kinds of fucked, but CA has consistently given off the idea that they plan to make one massive map by the end of everything.

>>143617058
Use your brain

>>143616963
I think they said the expansions would be standalone and if you have the other ones the games will blend together in one campaign map with everyone.

>>143617684
Because you've posted the same exact picture like 4 times now because you got replies once
Kill yourself thanks

>>143617732
Would you say its worth putting the corruption buildings in most of your cities to spread it, or are heroes and the spreading technology enough?

>>143617597
I can't show a picture until I finish the fight, but somehow all of Middenland was invaded and conquered by the Northern raiders. They're like twenty feet from Altdorf right now.

>>143617813
And I used to post the same picture of my borders in Attila because I hadn't played the game in a day or so, but was interested in seeing how others were going. Stop being so upset, anon. Post some borders and tell us how your game is going.

>>143617806
How would that work with the whole Chaos invasion mechanic? Archaon just fucks up the Old World and leaves everywhere else alone?

>>143617467

you can get around most of those issues by merely having an invisible wall between the two continents until the Human player or AI researches the tech to cross the seas.

they did this in medieval 2 but for this game they would have the other factions spawned and fighting already but just a fog wall blocking access to the other continents.

Right. I'm convinced everyone in these threads who says they've done the Dwarf campaign on VH or Legendary are just bullshitting. This is literally fucking impossible.
I played as aggressive as my economy would allow and expanded into Ork territory to cripple them. Worked great until turn 17 when suddenly Ork armies started appearing from fucking thin-air all over the place and took every settlement back from me. This shit cannot be done unless you get insanely lucky and another AI faction attacks the Orks. But as it stands the Orks have a massive fucking hatred for the PC so they almost exclusively attack the PC.

It's also fucking insane that the Orks will ally rapidly while all the Dwarf AI are blindingly retarded and will decline nearly any agreement.

Fuck this.

>>143618064
And while that's certainly a possibility, let's not forget that the New World in Medieval 2 sucked balls.

SUMMON

>>143617861
I try to put on in every other province, or the most outward ones. It helps keep my rival neighbors corrupted so that I can attack without attrition, and it also helps keep the inward ones up to combat chaos corruption

The heroes should just be a big boost in provinces you are thinking of capturing

>>143618107
It would be nice if CA did something other than artificial difficulty on the harder modes.

>>143618270
*put one corruption building in every other province

>>143616963
>>143617032
>>143617467
Already confirmed we are getting two stand-alone expansions that fit together with each-other into one super-campaign map, plus associated DLC and FLC for each stand-alone game.

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>>143607227
That almost looks like it's from Stronghold... Carcasses are pretty good way to fuck up a city senpai.

How are the VC's supposed to make money? I'd assume the wine resource buildings are for trading but not a lot of people want to trade with me as a VC and there don't seem to be any straight income buildings except for the one that only gives 150 per turn at max level.

>>143618107
You should have built walls

man, I wish VCs had some ranged units. I'm not asking for anything amazing, just some shitty skeleton archers or something that I could put on the walls.

>>143618717
Play tombkings then when they are added

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Fucking cowardly-ass vampire tried to fly away instead of dying to Ungrim like a man.

>>143618553
Does fuck all against the full stacks they shit out.
Also need to fund the one army you have that can combat the Ork spam so you're stuck, in turns 1-20 dealing with-
>Awful Public order in captured settlements
>Public order in starting settlements
>Upkeep on one full stack
>Expanding the economy to support stack
>Dealing with settlement defense
>Growing population to expand

Bullshit. You can't do all of that in early game and in early game is the only chance you have to cripple the Orks before they turn into 10-11 stack rape machine factions.

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Should I give the Empire a hand? I don't really want to have to deal with Chaos.

>>143618779
I would buy all the DLC but it's not out yet! Have Tomb Kings even been announced?

>>143618717
do they not have ranged units in the tabletop? doesn't seem like it'd be too much of a jump for a necromancer to make a battalion of skeletons loose arrows in formation if he can make them fight with swords and spears.

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>>143617325
Jesus I can't believe I survived

>>143618107
Orc*

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>mfw Dwarves have it ez mode
>tfw as Imperial it's hard because we get a billion units and I don't know what build to go with

>>143619030
I'm more surprised that you thought you would die. I mean, if you focused all fire on Zacharias and killed him, you could have made the battle even easier because all of the undead units would have started crumbling.

>>143619257
swords to held 'em in place
greatswords to flank
halberds for anti-large

>>143619257
/me eyeroll

>>143618995

From memory, no. They've always relied on magic for ranged damage. They have some neat TT units we didn't get in the game though.

>>143609850
Grail knight.

I'd get as much pussy as i do now but now i'd be a demi-god

>>143619360

man greatswords absolutely destroy

>>143619360
No. Just Greatswords. And Demigryph Knights.. And Steam Tanks. In fact, forget the greatswords and demigryph knights.

>>143619514
well, swords are cheaper.

>>143617325
>four turns in a row
because chaos

>>143619257

build a different army each time. a different specialty for each lord, one guy who loves classic roman legions, one guy whose blackpowder fetish puts the dwarves to shame, a pistolier/outrider specialist and maybe a magic and steam tanks army

i mean maybe you'll run into the army yours could've beaten if youd made the same cookie cutter army each time, but thats not that fun

I didnt realize Orcs were such economic powerhouses, I'm making 10k a turn with 5 armies

>>143618521
counts make money by upgrading cities, there's also some cash on the necromancer amd vampire recruitment buildings

>>143619628
By that logic goblins and zombies are good too.

>>143618941
Show them humies how properly to deal with chaos gits

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>>143619030
>he thought this was bad

ENTER SKRAELINGS

never recruit in enemy territory for more than a turn fellow understanders

>tfw disbanded some 8-9 chevron chaos warriors to phase them out for knights
>this is my only horde because i refuse to begin end times before archaon has done his quests

>>143619958
Nah, they don't last long enough to properly hold the enemy in place.
Also zombies are slow as shit.
But, then again, zombies are hilarious when you can get a lord to make a full stack of them instantly.

>>143616525
>empire early game
>Declare war on Marienburg
>Bretonnia declares war on me
>I'm sieging Marienburg
>Two massive bretonnian stacks come out of the fog of war
>oh boy
>they turn and siege the orc settlement near me
>they raze it and return to bretonnia
>Bretonnia request white peace

Uh okay thanks.

>>143608147
>Convince me not to...please...

>Age of Sigmar

>>143608147
sigmarines

>>143619815
Orc units have very cheap upkeep.

>>143619257
I actually did the best with empire. Managed to unite the whole empire before turn 100 and then chaos shits starting pouring south and been hold off the norscan raids in the western coasts and have gelt and karl leading defense of kislev
>tfw have karl kill the everchosen
>tfw have gelt and 2 othet stacks deal with the greater daemon

>tripple the damage of the Gyro bombs/grenades
>it still barely tickles a Chaos Marauder
Hmm. Something's fucked here.

Whats the ideal orc army comp in campaign?

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>>143619257

>he didn't make a panzegruppe

>>143620586
Yeah, you didn't quadruple it.
Come friend, you don't want to drop Hiroshima on the heads of all the chaos scum?

>>143612376
...are you sure about that? Cause they obviously do scale with unit size since more of them get thrown.

>>143620586
For that matter, I also increased the damage slightly on their machine gun, but it still deals no damage. It emptied its entire magazine into a chaos marauder with their backs turned to it and got 1 kill.

>>143617032
>>143616963
Man if they expand the map. End game is going to be fucking nuts. Turn 100 onwards, a single AI turn can take close to a minute.

>>143621058
This is pretty much my concern.

At a certain point, you just outstrip what's reasonable. A giant world map sounds cool, but it's gonna be a pain to deal with.

>>143620696
Orc bros? ;_;

Why is magic so fucking weak

>>143621058
Never had a turn take more than 15 seconds. Might want to upgrade your toaster of a pc.

>>143620586
Yeah Gyros need a buff for sure

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>>143620727
>losing 80% of your army to marauders and hounds

>>143621387
What kind of pleb doesn't watch AI movement.

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>tfw Empire
>I finally unified the empire in turn 90-ish
>However all the northern regions I inherited are brimming with skaelings/vargs, full of chaos and vamp corruption and unhappiness
>Meanwhile chaos keep invading
>Me and Manny are the only ones fighting chaos
>Dawi are getting waaaghed in the south
>Literally who vampires have two full stacks in the middle of border princes territory
>bretonnia maintain its petty squabbles
>tilea and estalia are quite powerful, but give no fucks

I got only 2 stacks in the north, karl franz that can demolish anything he face and another random old dude that have been fighting chaos for about 30 turns now and he is one of my favorite nobodies after having killed so many vikings/chaos shits.

My other 2 stacks are on manny southern lands that I decided to snatch for myself when chaos invasion started, I've been leaving them there to pacify the region


Atleast manny is 2nd in strength and he is right in the way of the chaos forces

Also, kislev, somehow, is still alive

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Thorgrim or Ungrim? Which is the better King in times of WAR?

So if I've grown so large that Great Power makes literally everyone hate me, I'm done confederating? The only way from there on is to conquer my own race?

This is extremely bullshit

>>143621385
Direct damage magic is weak. You might want to try overloading a spell if you use them.

Debuffs however are fucking OP as shit. I cast a Hex on 2 chosens and my greatsword fucking ripped through them like paper machete

>>143621385
Judging from the dev videos. They over buffed them at first, then over nerfed them.

>>143621651
That wasn't because of the hex anon.

>>143621570
Thorgrim, Ungrims bonus sucks because slayers suck

>>143621738
Well the hex debuff gave them 0 armor which certainly helped.

>>143621774
Greatswords don't even understand what armour is.

>>143621521
What pleb doesn't have it on fast movement?

Are Orc Boar Boy Big 'Unz a direct upgrade from Boar Boyz?

>>143621890
Even with fast movement, it can still take upwards of 1 minute because of your ally agent movements. I know this because the entire Bretonnia has allied together and constantly march their army north to slap chaos shit in.

>>143620586
>>143620967
Never fucking mind, I figured out why there's no change. For some reason the game won't load the mod. Probably due to some fuckery with the new PFM.

>6 magic
>Gamble
>7 Magic
damnit Ranald

Best first campaign for someone new to TW?

>>143621997
yes
and savage orc boar boy big unz are the best cav in the game

>>143620941
I'm going to pull numbers out of my ass because I don't know them for sure and im at work, but he means artillery does a flat amount and that's shit.

For example. Unit size small, 60 dorfs. 20 dorfs in front throw charges, each charge does... 35 damage. Unit size total health is only like 2400. This does 600 damage, destroys 1/4th of the unit. Good shit.

Unit size ultra. 100 dorfs. 20 dorfs throw charges, each do 35 damage. Unit size health is now 6500. 600 damage is now only 1/10th of the unit's health, you probably only killed like 10 dudes.

This is the same deal with magic. Fireball does like 350 damage, 500 double cast.

Arcahon on Ultra has 7500 hp, Arcahon on small has like 2500 hp with the same amount of skills/wargear/upgrade. Fireball damage is still 350/500.

>>143622178
How do I get them?

>>143622173
probably dwarfs but maybe VC

>>143622173

Empire very hard :^)

Dwarfs or VC, both are very defensible factions

>Canon firing at flying bats across the map
>Hitting
nice meme

>>143622224
who knows
I mean if you don't know then how did the first person who figured out how to get them know? Magic? Asking the devs? Google? figuring it out logically?
better ask on 4chan

>>143622178

That is not how you spell demigod knights

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Can someone give me some advice here?

On turn 24 of a Legendary campaign. Formed a non-aggression pact with Middenheim and then consolidated Reikland. Saw that one of Bastonne's towns across the way was in ruins so I went to claim it. Fought off a Bordeaux army that claimed it first, then Parraton warred me. Now they're both wiped out, thanks to several lucky battles in which I had fortunate placement of ally/enemy reinforcements.

Everyone hates me due to Great Power -20 relation. Estalia has blobbed to the South and hates me. Middenheim and Marienburg hate me. The other Brettonia factions hate me. The only people that don't are the dwarves.

I can only afford one army still. Should I continue smashing the remaining Brettonia factions? I feel like the hammer is going to fall on me any turn.

>>143622412

>letting marienburg alive

I can fell the backstab already

>>143622412
>not killing Marienburg

>>143622412
should've taken Marienburg for that sweet port income

>>143622245
I'd say Dwarves. VS are neat, but it can get annoying really fast. My first go I just ended up quiting in frustration as vampires, humans, and dwarves all allied against me around turn 10. All I had been doing up to that point is trying to occuby vampire settlements.

>>143622412

>he didn't kill marienburg

Butter up that ass

>>143622776
>>143622562
>>143622662
>>143622718
Marienburg is the new milan

>>143622412

>Marienburg that far into the game and still alive

Restart the campaign , you lost, you just don't know yet.

>>143621769
But Ungrim is a lot more useful as a hero. And his bonus may suck, but not as much as Thogrim's useless bonus.

Is it better to make Karl Franz (and other lords) good fighters or have them have those leadership buffs

>>143622825
I honestly thought it was gonna be Middleland, but they're surprisingly practical.

>take one city
>"Okay, let's just call that a buffer state and knock this shit off"

Meanwhile I'm invading an occupied (by some Northern Empire faction, I dunno) Marienburg right now.

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>And here comes Chaos!

Wondering if there is any point to even trying to fight this out

>>143622953

Make Karl a melee god, everyone else you can do whatever

>Beating a giant dorf army
>Not unit losses except for a thing of bats
>I think it's just the enemy lord left, he's mohawk-deep in monsters
>Check tactical map
>Total War: WARHAMMER has stopped working
fug

>>143621769
>because slayers suck

What a shame.

I remember having a ton of fun with them in the MMO

So from personal experience so far :

Chaos - Some Monstrous units pretty good, infantry underpowered, magic garbage except for buffs/debuffs

Dwarves - Ranged units don't do as much damage as you would expect, some artillery is decent, Hammerers and Iron Breakers are good, satchel charges actually suck, Gyrocopters garbage

VC - Generally garbage units, Vampire Lords very weak even though stats don't indicate it, magic sucks but they have one or two non-stat spells that actually work, Fate of Bjuna cast on artillery casts on the artillery pieces not the crew so it blows at that, all monsters really weak in comparison but the Terrorgeist is okay if cheesing but still dies easy

Empire - Demigryphs will beat anything 1v1 including monstrous units even without halberds, Demigryphs don't care about spear bonuses at all and will wreck/pull out of spears without any issue, Greatswords will 1v1 any infantry without issue even though they seemingly have worse stats, only having an issue with GW Chosen where they randomly either win or lose barely, Witch Hunters get to cast the equivalent of a Lore of Death spell for free, easily the best faction by far

Greenskins - Most units are actually okay ironically because you'd think a lot of their units would be shit, Savage Orc variants are just better versions which is also kind of counter-intuitive, Spider Riders are pretty good, Arachnarok is pretty good, honestly I feel like they're the most balanced faction

So does Warhammer have an army cap of 6 like Rome does?

I've seen people saying the "armies must have a general" thing is okay in warhammer cause on the tabletop they must have a general. Those people seem to be forgetting that a "general" in Warhammer can be a 2 wound Captain who is hardly better than the troops he is leading.

Does lacking a family tree hurt Warhammer at all? Were they even that important in previous TW games?

Is Very Hard a pain in the ass? I've been playing on Hard and doing fairly well, depending on which faction I'm playing and how the AI decides to react fuck you grimgor . I want those stupid achievements, as I've never gotten them in a TW game ever.

>>143623370
I never bothered with them. Only two classes I tried were Black Orc and Witch Hunter, but I didn't play the MMO for more than a month. Shit got boring and shit got broken.

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>tfw you watch the last member of a unit die vailantly
RIP little buddy

>>143623425

I explained that a bit here >>143611983
It helps me with muh roleplay, which is something I think this game needs because campaigns inevitably turn into snowballing into an unstoppable force or autoresolving 90% of fights. Having more RPG elements and strategy options helps to give you something more to do, especially in older games where you may be fighting a faction with almost the exact same units as you.

>>143623446
I don't know why, but on VH it seemed like Chaos and Norscans ripped the Empire a new one 5x faster than Hard

The main penalty is the annoying public order bullshit

>>143619257
Just make units at random and you'll probably have a better army than anything the dwarfs make.

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>>143622562
>>143622662
>>143622718
>>143622776
>>143622909
>lol just take marienburg bro xD
>on legendary when they have a full stack + city garrison and I can only afford to field one army

>>143620727
You Absolute maniac!
Panzer Elite!

When does the soundtrack come out`?

>96 posters

So this game flopped, huh?

Total War died with Empire

>>143622196
Its not the same. You have more bombs thrown on ultra, especially if you stretch them in a line right? I know about magic but the problem there is you dont get more casters on higher sizes where you do get more bombs.

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>>143624136

>>143611196
Fuck Dmitry. Just killed me secondary raiding party. I kind of fucked up too though.

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>be on 4chan too long
>Top Knots immediately makes you think of dog dicks

>>143623417
Nobody actually does that though unless it's for some cheesy list

>>143624136
Jokes on you, it's 99 now.

So am I doing something wrong or do Chaos Legion armies really suffer attrition if they are too close to one another? Like wtf? Do they have hate boners for even themselves?

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>>143609850

Demigryph Knight Captain commanding a Halbred Company
>Go rescue Kislev from Chaos
>Reward myself and my men with a set of Hussar wings

>>143624637
yeah same here
dog puss is clearly superior though