/twg/ - Total War General

First for History Games

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How's your WAAAAAGGH going, /twg/?

Is AoC worth getting or should I wait for sale?

Also I heard about a game breaking campaign bug?

>>143576620
Crooked Moon Goblin only faction when.

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Ahh... /twg/ SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS

Which is the best empire wizard?

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SUMMON THE ELECTED CUNTS!

I know matched combat animations have been removed, but are there still kill scenes, aside from the few I've seen Lords do on large units?

Anyone have any whether it killmoves?

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>>143576927
Have only seen this one.

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I AM PRINCE

AND EMPEROR

Why is Grimgor so insistent that people say his name?

>>143577010
Same. I was hoping there would be a few more at least. Oh well.

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>Go to fight chaos
>Their armies run away from me
>my 4 stacks yakety saxxing around the map after their armies
>They raze unprotected towns but dont have the courage to attack walled ones
>block army failed!
>block army failed!
>block army failed!
>block army failed!
>block army successful!
>Finally catch one
>It's nothing but marauder horsemen running away while throwing shit
>yakety sax around the battle map after them
>this carries on until they finally run out of ammunition and are forced to fight me
I CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE HOW INFURIATING THIS THIS.
Why are the warriors of chaos such massive cowards?!

Is there a solid way to quickly heal Kholek when I'm playing as Chaos? He took a ton of damage in my last fight and it says it'll take 9 turns of sitting here encamped to fully heal him.

I AM PRINCE AND EMPARAH

>>143577042
>>143576858
>>143576834

KARL FRANZ x EMANUELLE WHEN?

>>143576852
They all have some nice stuff. Bright wizards are somewha weaker because damage spells are currenly UP when playing at large or ultra unit sizes.

Celestials and Light wiards both have some great buffs and hexes though, though Light wizards need to get a fair few levels before they really get good. Then they're crazy however - Pha's protection, timewarp, makign units unbreakable and snaring enemy units are all really good when you use them well. Nothing funnier than stopping a big cavalry charge dead in its tracks right before it hits your lines by throwing Net of Amtyok on the lead unit.

Anyone think they will be lazy with blood and gore?

Humans and dwarfs obviously have red blood but do you think they will make skeletons bleed? What color blood do orcs and chaos warriors have?

no army painter bit of a fuck up

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Best battle I've had so far. Those Dwarfs have earned a round of ale.

>>143577287
Red for Orcs and Chaos Warriors.

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Holy shit Kholek does a lot of damage, well thats all the major combat lords, Only Kholek Suneater and Mannfred on an undead dragon manage to beat Grimgor. Archaon did by far the least damage of all the lords

How do I deal with cavalry as dwarf?

>>143577534
my kholek has a weapon damage of 850 when i buff him

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>tfw Altdorf is in ruins

I DO NOT CONSENT

Why does Karl say this

>>143577704
Strong norscan women tries to rape him.

What were they thinking with these sieges? They're even easier to exploit now.

So, the Fren- err, the Bretons conquered Helmgast from the Empire Secessionist. What do I do?

Any ETA on the minor faction mod?

>>143577189
When Emanuelle can keep away from the workshop for more than one day straight.

What building do you need to produce beer so I can get the produce x amount if beers a turn as dwarves?

>>143578089
Restart.

There are no point expanding north unless you play chaos

>endless northmen doomstack

>Both my LLs assasinated in a single turn

Almost made me drop this campaign, but I'll see if I can salvage things.

>attacking in a siege battle
>i have 8 archer units
>walls do nothing

gg no re

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Dork elves when

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>>143578268
>Expanding into the Chaos Wastes
For what reason?

>>143577704
Everyone wants his royal seed.

Is there a way to make flying units land and walk?

>>143578372
spoopy

anyone want to see any other Legendary Lord match ups?

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=692003606

What do you guys think of these mods?

>>143578372

Not even Chaos Wastes just north empire and Kislev.

>>143576695
I enjoyed one campaign of it. Not enough to keep my interested in playing a second time, or even a different faction.

I'd suggest waiting for a sale if you can. You're not missing out on anything.

Don't know about any bug.

What do orcs call other races?
I know:
stunties = dwarfs
humies = humans
gobbos = goblins
but nothing beyond that

>>143578519
Makes sense for the empire to have those, for the rest it kinda looks silly

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>playing against mortars as vampire counts

Charge order my skellies, close my eyes and only open them when I start hearing close combat sounds

Can you replace the regular Empires swordsman with greatswords? Idk how much the shields actually do against enemy missiles if the unit has decent armor.

>>143578519
They are good, though I don't like the vampire counts one. The lord resize mod is a must for this one.

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Does anyone have the link to the mega folder with a bunch of warhammer literature that was floating around? I want to read these gotrek and Felix books everyone goes on about. Aside from those what are some other worthwhile warhammer fantasy books? I've only ever read 40k stuff and those can be extremely hit or miss in terms of quality.

>>143578797
I can't wait to have these badboys in game and be total shit like all the other monsters which look impressive and barely kill more than a unit of regular missiles.

>>143578519
>>143578724
call me when i get my skeleton musicians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p5udK-R094

>>143578662
The fuck does this even mean

>>143578797

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/2qbp22o8ch8qc/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battles

Check out the army books while you're at it, family

>>143578519
I like it.
It is fully compatible with the armored empire units mod and the reskins for empire units as well

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>>143578740
>Worrying about casualties to expendable corpses

Why.

>>143578936
Same. Tomb kings are my favorite faction from an aesthetic standpoint.

MEGA folder?

>>143576620
>End up making a dwarf vassal in the east
>They are at war with all other dwarves and Orks
>End up becoming my biggest ally, together we crush all other orks and dwarves
>The time is nigh when I will have to crush them under the might of Grimgor
Feelsbadman

I have done a greatdishonor to other Orks by making friends with the enemy

On the bright side, I kinda feel like they are Rome and I'm the Gauls but kinda with reverse power levels.

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post the rarest achievements you've got so far

>>143577572
Longbeards, quarrelers, and your choice of a couple arty are all I used in my campaign.

Many of the units have charge resistance, so check that. I know longbeards do. Bring 8 or so quarrelers and you will wreck most of the cav you face. 90% of the time the cav comes around your flank, so park 4 or so on each side, angled sideways compared to your front-line, with some infantry support. Cav will have a tough time hurting your infantry enough before dying.

Then your quarrelers can wreck whatever monstrous units have arrived.

>>143578797
Slaves to Darkness and The Lost and the Damned are great fluff books.

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GOTREK & FELIX DLC WHEN

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>>143579101
It just looks bad. I know they are easily replaceable.

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>>143578519
>Necromancers leading units into combat

The whole point of becoming a Necromancer is to try and cheat death and become immortal, plus they're all physically frail old men, they're not going to be leading their meatless shields into battle, pic related is their whole deal.

Other than that, it's fine.

WHY DOES HE WANT TO SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS??

So all of the "fantasy" units are junk right? Multiplayer will just boil down to good ol hammer and anvil with heavy cav and heavy infantry?

>>143578678
bonies - VC
rotties - Chaos

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Do I do it?

>Ransom, Slaughter, Devour
>Slaughter and Devour aren't the same option
You'z muckin' about

>>143579089
>inb4 no floppy hats mod

>>143579281
I don't know, I spent my Empire game at war with most of the perfidious cunts.

>No reload animations
Really pisses me off, like genuinely ruins it for me.

>>143578962
>that whole movie

fucking golden

>>143579368
nah. Floppy hats are important.

>>143579350

Ye, just ask them to join the confederation after you deal with vamp cunts

>>143579339
h-haha y-yeah man, h-h-hammer and anvil

NO.

WRONG

FLYING UNITS ARE OP

THAT IS ALL

iN ALL THE MULTIPLAYER battels I've been playing, theres one thing in common

VAMPIRE COUNTS WRECK

They fucking smash face so hard its not funny

They have monsters which are OP and FLY

They literally get a flying steamtank

>>143579350
The forces of man must unite to purge the foulness that lurks in this land.

Work together until you're big enough to steamroll him, then swallow his lands

>>143579350
no

>>143579489
>cast one spell on terrorgheist
>30-70% hp gone
ebin

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>>143578268
>>143578562
It's basically free land once you kick Chaos' ass.

>>143579163
Why is everyone saying Longbeards when there's Ironbreakers?

Magic is fucking BROKEN guys, it's fucking BULLSHIT

Just versed a dude who brought Demigryphs and witch hunters and a mage and he fucking KILLED MY ARCHAON IN A COUPLE OF SHOTS, WHEN WE ENTERED MELEE, THEN HE CHARGED DEMIGRPGYS AND ROUTED MY WHOLE CHOAS ARMY

THIS IS BULLSHIT

CHAOS ARE SUPPOSSED TO BE DESTROY EMPIRE

Christ, what setting to tone down the snow? can't see fuck all.

>>143579160
Win 5 ambush battles during a single campaign is the third rarest apparently.

I'm sure I won four during my Orc campaign, if I'd known there was an achievement I might have gone looking for another one.

>>143579772
averagechaosplayer.jpg

>>143579065
I apologize for being a scrub, but how do I open these? I downloaded the first gotrek and Felix book on my phone and it's a .mobile. how do I open that file type?

Thanks!

>>143579772
>get 2 witch hunters
>literally just insta kill any hero

whats the likeliness to see rome 2 and attila remasters with that new 64 bit engine ?

>>143580023
>yelling angry words is actually more effective than a giant tornado of flame
I guess words can hurt.

>>143580120
yeah would be fucking nice but not holding out much hope

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>tfw an orc faction is down to a single lord that keeps assaulting your new settlement and you can just keep feeding levels to Ungrim.

Only on turn 30 and he's swimming in shiny new items and followers.

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>Play as Vampire Counts first things first
>have to toe the line between pissing Karl off/pissing the fucking dwarfs off
>Grimgor pops in occasionally with the Underway and snipes a few cities before teleporting out again
>end up getting washed away by the tides of Chaos when the invasion comes because I was in no way prepared

>Play Empire next
>ye olde total war game, but it's a lot of fun with the mythical aspect and fighting waves of orcs and zombies back to back keeping it fresh as fuck
>ally up the entire known world against Chaos and beat them
>get bored after burning down Castle Drakenhof

>Greenskins next
>HOLY FUCK THIS IS FUN
>OI LADZ LET'S DO DIS
>quest battle speeches boil down to GIT 'EM LADS
>short on cash? Burn a town
>short on boyz? enter raiding stance in your main province and recruit 9 units at once
>i am extremely euphoric as I get to see a wall of Black Orcs crash into an imperial battle line
>Grimgor is Gork and Mork incarnate, capable of just being pointed towards an enemy army and then going in with his titanic, green cock first
>ORCS ORCS ORCS ORCS

How can any one faction be this fucking based

>>143580001
Get something that can read ebooks. Most ebooks that aren't PDFs are MOBI or EPUB, which all ebook readers can open.

I personally use Calibre, but that might be a bit bloated if you just want something to read them with since it has a lot of other functions.

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>modesty mods are released before lewd mods
I didn't know Warhammer was a game played by Christians. Then again...

>>143580232
Raiding your own territories to farm rebellions is useful for this too.

i used to play empire total war back in my days, is napoleon an improvement of this? or should i stay with empire?

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But why

1) Why are the load times so absurdly long?
2) Should I let my archers fire from behind my melee line or do I only kill my guys?

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I actually thought being in the underway would prevent your units from being seen. Guess I was found out.

Goodbye you two stacks, nice knowing you.

>>143579350
Uniting Empire is peace way is the best and only way, that would true emperor would do

>>143580420
>2016
>not owning an SSD

load times are fine here famulum

>>143580420
>1) Why are the load times so absurdly long?


Because you have a shit PC.

>>143580420
1) Do you have an SSD?
2) You're killing your own guys if you're firing into combat, but it's safe to fire arrows or bolts over it into something on the other side.

>>143580475
>fighting in a narrow passage as dwarfs
>afraid of anything
Bruh. Git gud.

>>143580475
Wreck him, chaos are cowards and being in the underway gives him no room to run.

>>143580410
You were in the book.

>>143580386
It's a smaller, more focused and infinitely more polished version of Empire.

Does anyone have an extra copy they don't want?

>>143580604
>>143580614
I kinda don't have an awul lot of armor piercing in these armies.

Does the split factions mod work properly? me and a friend are starting a co-op campaign tomorrow and want to be the same race. I heard it crashes, but anyone had experience with it.

>>143580604
>>143580614
Those Hell Cannons are going to fuck him up.

>>143580273
I've found that the best way to play VC is to go very carefully and basically turtle for the first 50 turns or so, only attacking when you've got a weak, isolated target. Messing with the various minor Orc factions gives you some decent reputation with the Empire and Dwarfs, and you can usually get a NAP and maybe a trade deal with them eventually. After that keep turtling when Chaos decides to pop up, usually they'll go after the empire and won't bother you too much, so just ignore them even if they enter your land. Don't attack them unless they're really weak, and only fight defensive siege battles if you can help it. Empire and Chaos will cripple the fuck out of eachother and Chaos will leave many ruins behind, so once the war starts winding down (you may have to actually kill the last few Chaos guys yourself if Empire doesn't do it) you can peacefully colonise all the ruins and get ridiculous income, before thurning taht income into a real war machine and start wrecking some serious shit.

>>143580660
Yeah man sent it to you np

>>143579130

Goddamn. That is a nice looking unit. I really wish knights could dismount in this.

By the way, does using a mod disable steam achievements?

>>143580420
Having a standard HD, the only long load time is the initial campaign load.

Friendly fire is massively toned down from previous games. Missile units will hold fire if obstructed. I always keep them behind my lines.

>>143580952
;_; I'm desperate.

>>143581015
>Missile units will hold fire if obstructed.
wait what? this is amazing.

>>143581125

time to start posting various body parts of yours in this thread then maybe we can talk

>>143581010
>By the way, does using a mod disable steam achievements?

previous games no, so I'm guessing it's still no.

>>143580420
these are the fastest turns times have been in TW

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>Chaos scum

>>143580687
guys plz

>>143581010
Dismounted reiksguard got modded in, I'm guessing it won't take long to get dismounted knights when bretonnia comes out

>>143581304
yes

What's the best faction for cavalry?

I just want to smash into units

I have a 20 stack with Karl Franz and I went to the seccessionists and they are garrisoned with a full stack & garrison and the bar is way out of my favor

What did I do wrong? I recruited swordsmen for my main line, spears with shield for cav and flank protection, and 4 crossbowmen total
I still have the one reiksguard it fucking destroys things

>>143581435
Empire.

>>143581435
Vampires i guess

>>143581435

I think demigryph knights are the absolute best cav, but VC cav is nothing to scoff at either

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>tfw /twg/ died on Tuesday

never 4get luca, portguesebro, niggatron, gook, feelsguy and the other recognizeable anons

rip /twg/, fuck Warhammer

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>Cav charge with dragon ogre support
is there a better feeling

>>143581435
Empire, Chaos and VC

VC might take it since their units tar pit really well, and their cav is top teir. It also means you can field more cav since your infantry is cheap.

Empire cav is expensive, and you focus on crossbows more.

Chaos is the same, cav is expensive and so are your standard units.

>>143581579
oh no your epic racist history posts have all gone

>>143581518
>20 stack
>for the secessionists

u wot

You build 3 units on your way to their city, then take it the next. Protip: Your Reiksguard wins you every single battle in the early game.

hey, anyone want to get a vs MP campaign going? It's the only way I find the game challenging.

>>143581579
we are still here, just playing another total war game.

>>143580728
Wanna know what really fucked me up? Archi coming in from the front was ok. Kholek and the third guy spawning RIGHT in my back, before my reinforcements showed fucked up everything.

ARE YOU A GOD?

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fuckin' dwarfs man

the only man not fleeing on the entire battlefield is this one chaos dwarf

>>143581648
stop playing what i can't play

;_;

>tfw chaos decides they really hate you and just walk past the empire, razing nothing, just to get to your mountains outside Bretonnia and raze the holds

Why

>>143581579
>waaaa all the tripfags are gone ;_;

Good ridence

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Skaeling fucking shits!

Anyone running TW:W on a 7850?

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Aww yiss

>>143581565
>>143581547
>>143581520
>>143581614
cheers

>>143581830

this annoyed me too playing as the orcs, chaos completely ignored the empire and beelined for the badlands. Luckily my sneaky gobbos saw it in time for grimgor and azhag to mount a huge waagh defence in blackfire pass

>>143581719
CHAOS DWARFS WHEN

>>143581435
I think what puts empire over the top is the outriders and pistoliers in addition to having great access to standard shock cavalry.

I think Brets could be competitive for that especially when the DLC comes in, when combined with mass peasant bows.

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>>143581923
Manfred was a little upset I looked at his waifu's panties

>>143581197
I'm not pretty enough for that.

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ive seen videos where people make an army charge at the unit infront of them, instead of clicking on each unit and shit. how do you do that?:3

>>143581579
They all was cancer especially good

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>>143582065
First expansion. Tomb Keks, Chaos Dwarves, Skaven and Wood Elves galore.

>>143582163
is this possible?

>>143582163

CTRL + G the units you wanna group and just attack the enemy

>>143582065
I'd be surprised if CD wasn't the very last faction they add.

>>143582302

Nah woodies are probably DLC, skaven needs to be added along lizardmen to give lizards something to fight

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waiting in /twg/ steamchat for someone to play a VS campaign with me, come on in

>>143581883
That card seems to be considerably worse than my 760. For reference, I can play on a mix of medium/high with no AA, large unit sizes (which seem to be the new normal unit size), and optional shit like ssao turned off.

I imagine you could play on low.

Just basing this off having googled your card.

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So what's Beastmen's gimmick? No artilley, no range and the only cavalry is centaurs?

What's their magic lore?

>>143582326
>>143582330
https://youtu.be/9bl9oUcHd0A?t=232

>consider buying Attila because I need something to play
>there's £50 worth of DLC
Yeah no I'll wait for the Gold Edition.

>>143582664
their gimmick is they can hide/ambush or some shit

they were always the worst tabletop faction

>>143582664
CA has been pretty faithful to the rosters seen in army books, as well as the lores, at least categorically and nominally. Take at a look at their last army book.

>>143582664
lore of life I suppose.

Okay so from a lore perspective what exactly are dragon ogres? And on that point what's the difference between a dragon ogre and a shaggoth?

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Not so fast, Grimgor

>>143582803
for that reason they'd probably get a lot of vanguard stuff. I think if they were iterated one could expect something like the chaos faction except with more ambushing marauder type units and monsters.

it could also be that they just get added to chaos. Dragon ogres did.

>>143582730
>>143582163
>>143582330
>>143582326
you will see it at 3:50, the timing link didnt work

>>143576320
I said I wouldn't ever buy another Total War game after Rome 2, how does Warhammer compare?

>>143582909
you will kill him with your cannons ASAP

>>143582961
that depends what your gripes were, and also if you played the game to its fullest extent by doing multiplayer VS 8)

it's getting good reception, though imo reviewers of the TW games are shit who only play sp briefly.

Like how a lot of them say that you can't get many stacks. Empire turn 80 I had like 8 stacks and a ton of forts.

>>143582764
Attila is pretty brutal desu lad

I find it more frustrating than anything

What the hell does the Curse of Undeath do?

>>143583081
I got the hilarious map where the opponent has the most insane uphill to my defensive line too

Crack when?

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Man multiplayer is too easy :/

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Man is public order retarded, even though i have 2 public order buildings in every province and the fact that chaos started on turn 34 isn't helping

>>143583252
play the mp campaign, they stopped doing serious MP battle matching for a reason>

Plus, sega own relic now and MP ladder is very much their thing.

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WHAT. THE. FUG.

to add insult to injury that bret lord has a trait "defensive"

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>>143582664
They've got the generic lore of beasts (which some other factions can use) as well as their own lore of magic called the lore of the wild. It's got some pretty cool spells, one of them causes enemy cavalry units to get attacked by their own mounts.

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>>143583239
>Denuvo
>crack

Anon was asking in the last thread about spears without shields. Reason for not using shields was because they found out the hard way that they do fuck all against orks and beastmen most of the time. If I recall at blackfire pass the border princes of the time were the only ones to manage to hold the line the whole time because they used their spears like Pike's, finally getting pushed back when they gutted a troll and one of them hit a vein spraying it's acidic blood over their line. It's why many elite units ditched them in favor of either long range weapons or heavy crushing weapons that didn't require precise blows due to the tremendous strength if their opponents. It takes awhile to bleed to death where as no amount of willpower would make shattered bones and torn muscles move and its easy for multiple people to pin a giant in place with pikes and slice it up with short swords.

>>143583350
for campaign do you just autoresolve all the battles without players?

What are the most intensive video options aside from lighting and SSAO?
Don't want to listen to my GPU scream like a banshee anymore.

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>>143583392
>one of them causes enemy cavalry units to get attacked by their own mounts.
That would be hilarious to see in action.

>>143582898
Dragon ogres are a group of monsters that live in the north and eat lighting, they sold their souls to Chaos to protect against it, and as they age they grow larger and larger.
Shaggoths are basically just their adult form, while the normal dragon ogres are like teenagers.

>>143583140
I'm interested in the period but I have a serious problem with DLC where I have to buy it. Generally I can hold out for a sale but I have to have the complete game. I don't want to know how much I've given Paradox.

Vampire Cosmetics with tits:

https://mega.nz/#!wRhBRJxK!UULpXGgyIPHKvmo2PrXKDwSRcXjM4n7Y0nS9dEeTKiA

You have to enable out of date mods for it to work.

>>143583660
Shadows and foliage tend to take their toll, and they're not that noticeable if you turn them off so it's a good option.

>>143576320
Ignoring age of shitmar why did they ruin brettonia making them dark and edgy. I liked it when they were total bros and disliked military technology for being cowardly rather than evil magic and their knights were all heroes and the grail knights had to be completely pure of heart and compassion, slogging it on foot through the mud with the peasants and said peasants enjoying a very comfortable and safe lifestyle with actual rulers who cared about their well-being.

>cant rename characters in coop

Why

How the fuck do you deal with Cavalry as Dwarves?

Every single Orc army has 4+ cavalry units and gameplay is basically just How To Get Outflanked and Cycle Charged: An Instructional Video while a few units of short legged Longbeards try frantically to catch up to Boars/Wolves that can withdraw at their leisure.

And don't tell me to shoot them down before they hit, that doesn't fucking work. They're too fast, too many, and guns don't do enough damage

>>143583621
What do you mean?

If you mean mp campaign, then the great thing about it is that the other players can step in for the ai to prevent player/auto exploits or what have you. But just generally provide real challenging battles.

>>143583392
>causes enemy cavalry units to get attacked by their own mounts
Demigryph Knights BTFO.

>>143583920
It probably had desync issues or something else silly.

>>143583954
like, fire your guns nigga

The quotes on the loading screens are so cringeworthy, especially out of context.

It's really jarring compared to the stuff we got in Attila and Rome II. Those added surprisingly much to the feel of the game, while I just want to forget about the shitty wannabe-badass Warhammer quotes.

>>143583972
oh I didn't know they could step in, that's cool.

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TWW is saved! Despite failing to beat Rome 2's record number of concurrent players.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-27-total-war-warhammer-is-the-fastest-selling-total-war-game-ever

Btw what happened to goblin fanatics? Still ingame?

>>143584119
"the play as the ai" option for battles in vs is the single and only way the total war series can get around the ai always being shitty. Which is why I only play vs MP campaigns, and am trolling the twg steam chat right now trying to get another one going.

>>143583954
Have you tried squares? Squares are cool.

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>>143583954
>Step 1: Convert to Chaos
>Step 2: Have your dwarf women sleep with a demonic bull god
>Step 3: Praise Hashut
>Step 4: ???
>Step 5: Watch as your half-bull/half-dwarf abominations tear through everything as your heavy cavalry.

>>143584058

Also, I'm really disappointed about the lack of minor settlement maps. Those were some of my favorite battles in Attila, and Warhammer solved the tedium problem by making them almost always easy to autoresolve as long as you have a proper army of your own. I just wish I could fight battles when I wanted in cozy Imperial hamlets.

>>143583954
Come on, shoot faster!

>>143584148
They are embedded in archer units and launch out when they are attacked.

>>143584297
Squares are awesome if you like one side of your formation getting crushed by a million greenskins

>>143582302
How the fuck would that work standalone.

Aren't Chaos Dwarfs just Dwarfs with pointy hats? Why would they be a faction?

>>143581579
>TW:W revitalizes a dying IP
>TW:W kills tripfags

Is there anything this game can't do?

>>143584527
Chaos Dwarfs are just Dwarfs in the same sense that Chaos Marauders are just Humans.

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>>143582302
>Wood Elves
>Not Ogres
Get out manlet.

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>>143584567
get me a gf

>>143584058
they're all pulled from the literature, which actually gives 40k a run for its money in absolute taking itself too seriously when it comes to trying to be badass

just try reading a WHFB book, the lore is the only cool part because everyone acts like a oneliner machine whilst being totally serious

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Is anyone else completely convinced at this point CA fucked up agents really hard? I swear my agents always critically fail despite there only being a 10% chance, while the enemy always succeeds in their agent's actions regardless of their level or percentage chance.

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>>143584527
Chaos Dwarfs are Dwarfs with horrifying infernal war-machines and Orc slaves.

Can anyone gift this to me?

>>143584691
Oh fuck, Ogre Kingdoms will be the tightest shit ever.

>>143584717
I always saw 40k as pretty satirical.

Enemy agents must have a 90% assassinate chance. Shit is unreal how often they succeed.

>>143583954
If I go up against an Ork army I just deploy towards the very back of the field in a corner, set up ranks of ranged units and artillery. They can't flank since you're against the bounds of the map which forces the fuckers to basically charge at you and get shot to shit.

Yes it's a scrub way to beat the AI but I'm fucking sick of the Orks on my very hard campaign. If they're going to shit 3 stacks out every two turns, I'm going to play like a scrub.

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The barbarians are introduced to modern warfare.

>>143582302
nah m8

first expansion:

Wood Elves
Skaven
Beastmen

>>143584805
it was supposed to be, in recent times it's become the exact thing it was striving to parody and under certain writers even worse

>>143584852

>Enemy agents must have a 90% assassinate chance. Shit is unreal how often they succeed.

There's a mod that disables hostile actions for enemy agents. I suggest uising that, it might count as a cheat but goddamn I get murdered almost every turn almost all the time.

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>>143584517
>standalone
It basically means not having access to the core factions of the other expansions/base game. There will only ever be one big, ever-increasing map with all factions on it.

So you'll be able to conquer the Empire/Altdorf as Tomb Keks but unless you bought the base game you can't play as Empire in the Grand Campaign or multiplayer or skirmish.

>>143584726
My own agents seem to perform pretty much as the percentages would indicate, though it does seem like AI agents get some kind of hidden buff.

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>>143584865
>They just keep coming

>>143584527
Slave armies and hellcannons

>>143584790
Post a picture of your tits first.

>>143584726
I agree with >>143585062

>>143585008

This is what I've been thinking for a while, too. There's tons of precedent - CKII and Dawn of War had similar systems for expansions.

I do, however, think they'll want each expansion to add contiguous territories, and I've been convinced that we'll see elves and Lustria first, despite formerly thinking we'd get the Southlands and the east first.

>>143585062

Pretty certain they get a buff on highger difficulties. I play VH with Normal battles and enemy agents kill me all the time.

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>>143585085
>Finally they break, and the artillery runs out of ammo as it pounds their retreat

>>143585006
Yeah I'll probably use that.
I'm getting sick of seeing 5-6 popups at the start of each turn.
>ENEMY AGENT SUCCESS
then I need to buy more fucking Lords.

There needs to be some kind of cutoff point for it. I've literally had a level 28 Lord assassinated by a level 2 agent. Shit like that should never happen.

>>143582803
>>143582947
Think of the one celt army in attila that could have full army ambush deployment.

and yeah that's how i picture beastmen.

>>143585216
I don't have tits.

>>143584717
>just try reading a WHFB book, the lore is the only cool part because everyone acts like a oneliner machine whilst being totally serious

Not Gotrek and Felix.

>>143585245

If they add Lustria they need to add Skaven.

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Should I go for lightning battles on every general?

I'm definitely going to unlock all of Gelt's spells, but I can't decide on whether to go all-out on the battle buffs, or get campaign buffs until I unlock lightning battles.

>>143585337
Then you should either get a job and stop being a pathetic beggar, or just get it over with and kill yourself.

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>>143585292
>A costly victory, but it should protect the empire for now

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>>143585245
>Lustria
Would require naval combat. It and Edge Elves will be last.

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>stick vampire on hellsteed
>this happens

what the fucking hell is happening? I she becoming a vargheist?

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>20% FREE Damage resistance

Oh baby where have you been my entire life?

>>143584567
Revive tabletop Warhammer.

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>>143585425
Not necessarily. CA said they were working on Skaven already and Lustria is likely to be added in the final expansion due to its geographical location. I can easily see CA adding a clan Pestilens pack after Lizardmen are added instead.

>>143585540

How come Azhag's eyes and crown dont glow with that green aura thing

So which are the best lords in the game?

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>>143584527
Dawi zhar are a lot more hardcore than regular dawi.

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THIS HILL VEXES ME
how would you position your units (the Chaos have no artillery in this battle)? does the AI tend to link with reinforcements or go down the center?

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>>143585623
>he doesn't know

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>>143576320
WE

>>143577140
AI is strange, and will always go for the most optimal play which is to run away and try to pillage instead of losing an entire stack.

Can somebody give link to that in game online wiki for warhammer?

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>>143585503

wew lad

Can someone explain the difference between nightgoblins and nightgoblin fanatics?

How would skaven actually work on the campaign map? Are they at all interested in taking and holding surface cities?

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>>143585946
PRAISE TZEENTCH

>>143585946
Hot.

>>143586015
>Are they at all interested in taking and holding surface cities?

No, they're all about secrecy and biding their time until they have the strength and numbers to overwhelm the surface.

If they want to do Skaven, they'd probably have to create an underground campaign map, where Skaven would compete with Dwarfs and Goblins. They'd only try to take the surface later on.

So the empire somehow became military allies with literally everyone in my game.

How the fuck do I deal with this?

I can hardly afford one stack (I have 4 settlements) and I tried to siege another Empire Faction and they had a full stack in the city, the bar was all red, and then I continued siege they instantly came out to attack me and the bar was like 70% red

Do I need to have two stacks moving together?
My stack is pretty basic I'm only on turn 20

>>143586015
the same way dwarves and orcs currently works. They've already implemented this whole "underway system" and basically humans can only take human ish cities and underway races can only take their respective city types.

>>143586169
>underground campaign map

That's a horrible idea, I sure am glad you are not in charge of any video games.

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>>143586015
>How would skaven actually work on the campaign map?
Exactly like dwarf holds. You'd move along the old underway and only march on the surface in areas it was never built.
>Are they at all interested in taking and holding surface cities?
Hell yes, the Great Uprising is a holy mission for them.

>>143579065
shit this has all the codices, been wanting to read those thanks man

>>143586292
You're a horrible idea.

>>143583954
Camp in a corner, bonus for routing enemies leaving the map before rallying back

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>>143586361
Underground maps worked in HoMM because everyone could go underground. It won't work TWW. The current system is a good, pragmatic adaptation.

>>143586257
Kill them faster 8)

>>143586265
You basically need two full stacks to reliably take well defended cities with most races, at least early game.

and unlike what the dumb reviewers say, it's easy to get a strong economy and stupid numbers of full stacks, at least with most races (especially empire and dwarves)

dwarves are ridiculously overpowered right now

>camp
>literally massacre your best units with ranged hellfire
>get into melee range, alright now time to fuck these useless ranged units up
>NOPE.AVI DWARVEN STRENGTH
>Literally hammer and anvil dwarves and they dont budge

When the fuck will CA nerf this gimmicky faction

it was shit to fight dwarves in TT and shit to play them in TT

>>143586545

I dont get why people bitch about money in this game

>Play Empire
>Take over Marienburg and swim in dosh

>As dorfs
>Take over Gundabad or w/e it's called and swim in even more gold

isn't there a movie when you win as chaos?

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>try Sigwald in skirmish
>He shouts "FOR THE BLOOD GOD" when ordered to move

Are they fucking for real?

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>>143581579
>wake up to spend a wonderful day on /twg/ chatting with the 5 other users
>Oh gosh I hope we have a lot of good conversations, maybe today the new thread will hit 100 posts!
>frantically type an epek post about Rome 2
>25 minutes later someone responds!

I miss it too senpai

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>>143586713
this really triggers my autism

>>143586660
vampires have by far the worst economy in the game.

even then late game my income hit 15k

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>>143586624
>When the fuck will CA nerf this gimmicky faction
Skaven will fuck them up. Gromril is no defence.

>>143586624
Yeah, they're not Op at all. Not having cav is a massive disadvantage, and some armies can temporarily outshout for long enough to matter.

Empire and Brets both have more specialized shooters for instance, and at a lower cost. Plus, you know, cav.

>>143586789
I'll never post again if you buy the game for me.

>>143586624
Warhammer Dwarves are shit in every incarnation.

I played a lot of Blood Bowl, and Dwarves are literally the "no fun allowed" race. They're too slow to really be good, but they just grab the ball, huddle together in an invincible wall, and slowly trundle down the field hoping to make it to the end before halftime.

Finally figured out how to avoid the AI's faggotry, but the game is pretty boring, especially if you don't fight any battles. There's hardly any strategy to this game. It's just mindless battles with no campaign map substance. Boring.

>>143585008
>>143585245
That's not how they said it'll work though. They said that each game will have it's individual map, but if you own the first game you can combine the maps like a jigsaw.

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Post borders.

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And that's why I play Dwarfs in tabletop. Artillery and quarrelers too stronk.

>>143586660
vampires don't need a strong economy for a bunch of reasons, though it gets stronger late game.

They can raise a full stack of good units in a single turn an cause attrition against every other race. You fundamentally need less stacks with them.

>>143586660
It's because most reviewers are dumbasses who play 20 turns of sp and call it quits.

Estalian, Tilean and Border Princes unique units mod when?

>>143585435

Guys please help, I have enough shit to deal with today besides sperging out over how to stat my LL.

>>143586292
You ARE a horrible idea.

>>143587047
>pigkissa

not very intimidating.

>>143586983
>every border is the same with limited conquest paths
shocking

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>>143578740

>First arty and least interesting is the most useful

I just wanted a return to my days of king artillery in Empire and Nappy.

>>143578791

Do it. There's no missile units that are so dangerous as to warrant the reliance. Maybe Dorfs but they are more a concern of armor than ranged missiles. I'd only think shields would be essential vs high elves or wood elves and even then ehh.

Greatswords are just plain solid infantry against any kind of enemy infantry. And you can use arty, a halberdier or two as SWAT teams behind the lines, or demi griffs to deal with monstrous units

>>143587354
kissa means cat in finnish

pigcat

The game gave me a wizard, he's like an agent in previous TW games right?

But I assaulted a settlement with him, and he got a level, and he could learn a combat spell
How does he end up in battles?

>>143581346

As a recruitable unit. Not able to dismount them in battle. Bretonnia able to field armies of dismounted knights would be hard for me to accept.

But given this is built on the attila/R2/ect engine I have to think it might be possible to make dismounting work. Maybe with no animation for it being an issue but I need to look into that.

>>143587608
attach him to an army

>>143586624
This view is bullshit to anyone that has actually played Dwarves

Your units can take cavalry charges, sure, which is good because you have 0 answer to them and the AI/any player will encircle you and constantly charge all your shit. You HAVE to camp to be remotely viable

>>143587530
youre a pigcat.

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How to do good as Chaos? I've spent turn after turn hunting down these fucking remnants in the Chaos Wastes, my unit replenishment is ass, more than one army and my funds wane, only my LL is a decent commander, and the Empire somehow keeps affording 5 army expeditions into the Chaos Wastes which set me back like 10 turns.

Then when it comes to fighting I find myself either getting murdered basic frontline units our outflanked because all my units are so fucking slow. What are my strengths besides Giants?

Holy shit are hellblaster volley guns overpriced for a unit that has less DPS than handgunners.

>>143587734
sorry, didn't mean to call you a pigcat

cowdog

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Look guys, there's db entries for multiple different ship types for different races.

I wonder if they intended naval battles to be in at some point.

test

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>playing as empire on legendary
>just sit on my ass without even reclaiming all of reikland since that got me rekt last two times
>stirland wants to confederate
>ah what the heck why not
>vamps instantly declare war and take moot
easy come easy go I guess, though if chaos comes knocking I have absolutely no way of fighting them, my economy is shit, my "armies" are shit, and my settlements are especially shit. Chaos legendary was easier than this desu

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Which one is superior? Shielded spearmen or Halberds?

>>143587802
Playing as them I found the way to win was to make sure all the northern tribes were awakened/ subjugated, then make liberal use of the wargoals option to have them do your work for you.

How come you can't play any minors? I remember doing this a lot in Rome 2.

>>143576320
What's the MP like in Warhammer? I played a lot of Rome MP and then a bunch of shogun 2 despite being a bit late to the party. What's it like this time around?

>>143582664
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer/Tactics/8th_Edition/Beastmen

>"Let's say you like Chaos in Warhammer Fantasy, but you're not that hell-bent on winning every game you set out to play. A strange thought to many, I know but let's entertain this one. What would an army of this sort look like? I'll tell you what it would look like - it would look like Beastmen! Like Daemons and Warriors, Beastmen have all that cool chaos flair, like spiky bits, evil and malice, awesome looking models, etc. - and none of the cheese! If you like an army of angry, bitter, drunk pseudo-furries (it's actually a lot cooler than that sounds), you will like the Beastmen."
>"Also, if you like tough, fast-moving cores supported by awesome lords and heroes, one of the most bad-ass special units and literally terrifying rare choices, Beastmen are for you"

>The first thing to note about Beastmen is that most of the army benefits from a rule called "Primal Fury." In close combat, the unit takes a Ld test and if successful, gets hatred for the round. If the unit passes on a double 1, they get hatred AND frenzy for the rest of the round. While this sounds good, you must understand that one of the Beastmen's major weaknesses is their low LD, so they won't be passing as much as you want them to. Keep close to a general and BSB to maximize results.

>They have a terrible LD across the board: every single one of their infantry units faces the prospect of easily panicking and bolting. This means that you need, need, NEED most of your units to be either within your general's LD bubble or to contain a Lead boosting Hero (and even then, don't get excited, your LD max is just about equal to Dwarf base LD). This means you're going to be concentrated in huge blobs towards the center of the board and thus very vulnerable to flank charges.

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What were his last words /twg/?

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Sleep tight, Azhag

>>143587929
At least they'll be cooler than the previous games' boring arrow boats.

>>143588119
DOOT DOOT

>>143588049
which is superior aids or brain cancer?

>you will never have joey snuggle into you whilst you play warhams on your laptop

JDIMSA

>>143588379
Aids lets you spread'em, so, yeah, aids.

>>143588379
AIDS definitely.

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>>143587929

Naval combat will likely come in at some point. The sea expands out super far, and there are already some models in the game.

Not to mention, if they ever add in High Elves, naval combat will be a must.

>>143579350
No, retake rightfull empire clay.

HELP

HOW DO I KEEP MY CHAOS SPAWN FROM DYING IN AUTO RESOLVE NOTHING ELSE DIES BUT THESE SHITS

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memes

>>143588090
focused on features for the MP campaign, as it should be.

Someone come vs campaign fight me in the twg steam chat pls

>>143588507
you cant

>>143588267
Dark Elves had the coolest fleet to me, either floating chunks of land they ripped out of Ulthuan (the Elven homeland), or sea-chariots chained to massive sea-dragons that eat through other ships.

>>143588585
fucking shits it's elephants in rome 2 all over again

For the first time I want to cheat with a mod

>>143588485

There are also gigantic sea monsters than you can see swimming around in some areas.

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>>143587950
aaaaaaaaaaah fucking vamps stop bullying me

>>143588657
im having the same problem

>>143588097

Adding that I think there's no dancing around the fact that it'll be a weaker shitty faction and playing it will be about the challenge of mitigating that. Them being playable would be an option rather than an emphasis - I'd be more interested in them being the local auxilia for a chaos player. I haven't done chaos yet but I understand you can't replenish unless you are back in Norsca or the chaos wastes or encamped?

Be neat to have chaos rely more on them for shitty mass levies instead of chaos marauders.


>>143588531

.t norman Schwarzkopf.

>>143588507
you should see the varghulf. it literally seeks oblivion, even in 6:1 battles.

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Are the Empire retarded?

I have two doom stacks that a crushing 3 full banners on their own, and they think instead of fighting me as i raze half their territory. They decide to fight bretonia.

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>>143588769
>Not keeping Stirland alive and having a buffer state between you and the Vampire Cunts

>>143588615
wew way too fantasy for my tastes

>>143588879
the ai will always be retarded. That why you have to play the campaign against a human to get the full experience.

What's the place to learn about playing total war

I don't really know what to do outside of spreading my army (they seem to surround units if I do this) and running in from the side with another unit after a fight has started

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They may have taken the hold, but dammit, we bled 'em. We bled 'em good.