/wfg/ - Warframe General

first for ;_;7

2nd for ded frames.

3rd for rip fast

ded frames
ded game
ded fucking everything

first for fucking kill me

140 Fullarton Street, Suite 1800
London, Ontario, Canada

"complaint" letters go here

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DED

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xth for game killed by devs and comfy thread with neps

FUCK

ded gaem ded frames ded general ded bread ded company ded ded

>>143593975
So dragon dildos and cheese pizzas?

Boypussy > girlpussy

They dug up Mag, shat on her and buried her again
Bravo DE

So it's official, Mag is utterly and completely terrible in any situation right? Cause I sure as shit can't make her work.

>>143594053
And Qurans!

>>143594053
No. Bombs

Nova Prime's knockdown passive on paper looks good for heavy gunners. The problem is, every other enemy EXCEPT for the gunner locked into his slamdown animation is knocked down. Absolutely useless.

>>143594157
God no, Draco is so easier now you dopey dum dum

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>>143593676

Remember to use filters

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>>143594053
send them a paper packet with white powder in it.

Just get the place shut down for day, should be a laugh.

So how is Black Desert? Shit looks complicated and a bit too much like Skyrim. I wanted to try it, but fuck spending $30 just to get in.

I'd go back to Revelation but it's still in ching chong.

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Called it, GG DE

>>143594053
You can easily generate fear by sending them letters with flour.

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>Reminder: Multishot does not work, but status does.

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See ya mag. Was nice knowing you.

What's a good game to play for a week while DE takes flak up the ass and rethinks what they've done.

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I was sent here after I refused to restart the game to patch.

It's a great backdrop for a goodbye, isn't it?

So guys, I rather someone else test this out consider I don't have a tricked out Mag build yet and MR limitations for lvl 135 enemies but this is what I got.

Aura: Corresive Projection
Duration : 105
Efficiency : 130
Range : 145
Strength : 180

I used 5 lvl 90 corrupted heavy gunners, and I used Crush + Augment, since it decreases armor at around 50%, then I magnetized one of them and they were all grouped, after, I had to cast Polarized; twice which removed all their armor.
If Magnetize gets hit by Polarized it basically follows how AntiMatter Drop works, except the bullets actually attract to the orb. I shot with a Vaykor Hek.

After that I waited for the duration to end, the explosion killed off the rest with ease.
I don't know how it fare's against enemy scaling, so someone should try it, and with a better Mag build than mine.

From my results...Mag most likely requires a lot of synergy with her abilities to actually kill, if you plan to go solo at sortie lvl enemies. In a squad sense, I have no idea yet, as I have to try her out in pubs or real missions

All done in the simulcrum.
>inb4 4 CP

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Let's get this over with.
Frogbutt.
bursabutt.
Instinct to breed on overdrive.
God I want to fuck a bursa so bad right now.

>>143594334
please explain

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This patch

Vivergate 2.0

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it's dead Jim, let it go.
what are you going to play now? I feel like playing that Halo on PC thing.

REAL GRIND HOURS SMASH DAT NERF BUTTON

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>>143594587
What are you waiting for?

I'm not the only one that saw all the NOTICEABLE tension in the liestream today right?

>>143594732
>what are you going to play now?
I've been on a bit of a fantasy kick. Might dust off my XIV account.

Wait, they nerfed Draco?

>>143594334
More like 0->0->0 damage.

Mag's abilities do not scale with shields now, hard damage only. She's completely useless now.

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>>143594152
Today is my day!

>>143594732
I've been thinking of doing another Morrowind run.

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>nigga and nigger are still censored even with the profanity filter off
>kike, spic, wetback, porch monkey, spearchucker, wog, and chink aren't

>>143594732
That hacked Halo Online thing? Been thinking of trying it out.

>Solo Trinity is literally LITERALLY invincible now
Damn, this feels good.

How shit is this game? Should I even bother?

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>>143570052
ZA WARUDO

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Why the fuck do they still only stream at 720p? This is unacceptable.

If you're not going to give me a reason to log in I already stopped doing Sorties when they were long and shitty ones, now they'll be even worse and that's all I did anyway, at least give me something nice to look at.

>Vauban has such low starting armor, Steel Fiber is fairly pointless on him
"HEY EVERYBODY, Vauban's shiny new passive grants him 25% bonus armor per frame within 20m, enjoy that extra 35-75 armor if everybody is willing to sit on your dick the whole mission!"

Pretty sure I'm finally done with this game.

>>143594217
That's unintended, but never mind, we'll simply remove Draco in the next update.

>>143594947
According to that gif and this anon >>143594469

She's even more useless.

Does this patch even have a silver lining?
I have a feeling we only got fucked.

>>143595047
it's fun, drive or die infection on that sand map reminded me of tribes, you can go p fast on it

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Press F to Pay Respects

>>143594361
Fire rate and punch through don't work either, they're fucking useless move on

>>143595117
Dont bother, its fucking garbage

I need another Grineer Eximus Excavation Sortie.

I can't wait.

>>143594925

NEW SHARED TENNO AFFINITY AURA HUD INDICATOR

>>143595270
>Mag and Saryn are the bustiest frames
>Mag is following in Saryn's nerfbatted footsteps exactly

It's like pottery.

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>>143595117
Do like fun or challenge?Then don't play Warframe

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>>143595232
No, we got fucked. I'm quitting the second an even slightly better grind-MMO comes out.

>>143595275
I never said anything about FR OR PT. I am stating that you MIGHT want to keep your MS mods on so you can still use your secondaries. And also the STATUS percentage IS effected while in PM WITH USING MS mods

>>143595232
Volt is good now. Got a portable Riot Shield while being able to move fast. Also moving fast gives you bonus damage.

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>double affinity weekend
>mfw i baked 10 weapons

>>143595242
Neat, think I will then. There's a guide on leddit for how to get started with the game, is that trustable?

>>143595117

You've come at a bad time. They've just nerfed basically anything and everything fun and/or useful into the ground.

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>>143595340
It was nice of them to put it in the buff bar and not give it its own space.

Great stuff.

They couldnt have put it on the party bars either, so I can tell who i'm near to at a glance instead of just a vague "2"

Yeah.

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>>143595201

Update when?

>Low Duration Magnetize
>Fire Quanta Vandal at it
>mfw 1.8mil damage against ancients

>>143595581
Damn I should play this again

>>143595646
DELET THIS

>>143595487
yes, basicly only way to really get it

>>143595204
most passives are trash, yet another proof that DE doesnt play the game and is creatively bankrupt

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>>143595201
Doing god's work anon

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>Mesa can not shoot through shields

>>143595423
but I did

What are you gonna do stick Hornet strike, crit, and 5 elemental mods on? Mesa sucks dick, rip

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>>143595646

>>143594319
>p2w

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>>143595732
I believe you are praying in the wrong direction friendo

>>143594319
Garbage p2w

>>143595734
it always was like that

>>143595413
My problem with Warframe is that the gameplay is FUN and not P2W compared to other MMOs. I mean with all the guns and melees, the rest of games seem kind of boring.

There is no point in playing other games.

so Volt's new 4 is okay CC if nothing else

50m 12s stun

at least i have frogbutt

>>143595890
Firefall would have been fun if they kept improving it and not shitting it up. Instead they did the opposite of that.

>>143595232
Real silver lining is that you can now cut the addiction to this badly designed grindan and start to enjoy other things in your free time.
It's not just the nerfs, the game itself is a shallow skinner box with terrible droprates and unsatisfying buggy mechanics.

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>those ledditors and forumites who wanted "broken" and "overpowered" frames nerfed could've just done so by crippling their own by taking off mods
>they think forcing nerfs on everyone else is a better idea

>>143595817
I of course am referring to Wotan

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>>143596042
>People in twitch chat celebrating the destruction of powerful weapons and frames

These are the kinds of people we play this game with.

you know I'm surprised they didn't fuck loki over, since his kit seems way more OP than fucking hysteria/exalted blade/blade storm/bless

do they dare not touch radial disarm/irradiating disarm?

Volt is pretty good right now,idk about mag

>>143596190
and now they're complaining that Mag is fucking awful and that they can't even use her in corpus sorties

they fucking deserve it

What exactly have they did to Tonkor?
I need to know.

>>143596228
An anon just posted a long ass post on Mag. But we need someone to do against lvl 135 which he doesn't have.

>>143595553
come to think of it they changed all 3 starting frames, nerfing 2 of then
also nerfed typical noob frame in valk
bad time for new players

>>143595646
Delete this you piece of shit

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>>143595817
There can be more than one of us, God-man.

i made the nipslip weebm

>>143595968
Overload falls off after encountering beefier enemies. It was made to single out special mobs with higher health in turn them into towers to kill over lower healthed foes. It was designed to never go end game.

Thanks DE. Never touching volt again. Not because of overload but because YOU CAN ONLY HAVE 4 UP AT A TIME AND THEY TOOK OUT BONUS RANGE AND CRIT WHEN SHOOTING THROUGH IT.

>>143594334
Polarize does flat damage now, no scaling whatsoever.

>Magnetize lingers after the initial target dies
>it still redirects bullets into nothing, effectively acting as a detriment to everyone shooting towards it, making you unable to actually hit anything past the bubble.
>the bubble remains for the remaining duration of the bubble instead of instantly popping
>if you are inside the bubble and shoot outside the bubble, directly away from the center, you hit yourself and you die.
I have no idea how they did it, but they actually made magnetize (previously bullet attractor) worse. If magnetize migrated to the nearest enemy, maybe it would work, but as it stands, the bubble lingering after the target death is complete bullshit. I swear to go, if they make that a fucking augment instead of inline I'm actually fucking done with this shit.

>>143595553
>They've just nerfed basically anything and everything fun
isn't that a monthly thing with DE though?

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>>143595201

>>143596664

Normally, they just screw around with stuff and fuck something up seemingly obliviously. They've gone out of their way to nerf all kinds of everything on a pretty substantial scale this time.

>>143595890
It's only fun while you are new and havent figured how broken the game is. Then there is grind-or-pay aka pay2notplay

Polarize seems to need a minimum duration to work properly. I can't make it strip armor after double casting with 12% duration.

>>143595872
not him, but if you pay attention, she's not even damaging the bubble, and no, its wasn't always like that, or wasn't supposed to. Whatever DE did to buff Arctic Eximus units and make their globes act like pseudo nullifiers is just fucking horseshit. The aura already slows (which stacks with more arcitcs) and the bubbles are immune to crits, making them hard to pop with crit focused weapons at higher levels, and they give cold damage buff to affected allies. Why buff them even farther?

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>>143594272
shit TTK

redeemer or blind+finisher karyst. literally the only other build is a meme blast proc build.

>>143596602
show me

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>>143596602
I wonder if Becca knows how into her we all are

>>143596329
She's completely useless outside Magnetize now. Polarize does FLAT damage, not scaled at all. Pull and Crush are the same except they do bonus damage to Magnetized enemies.

>>143596042
>if you want to be OP, go play on Mercury
same logic

>>143596635
fracturing crush removes armor for a short time
shield polarization removes all armor for ever

GG FUCKING DE

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>>143597117
Do not lewd the Becca.

>>143597120
At least she knows she's better than Megan.

>Megan reads /wfg/ and sees the THICK love
>attempts to become thick herself (see: the tennocon video)
>fails to attract /wfg/'s attention because she's still vapid and ugly

>>143596603
I take it back, Overload is STILL shit CC:

>can't be refreshed on enemies
>only works on some enemies (works on Ancients, HGs, and Hellions; doesn't work on Chargers, MOAS) requires further testing

and even with a 299% strength build its damage seems to be shit

>>143597113
>lol vid. doesent even kill it, lvl80

Redeemer does shit damage against armored enemies (tested on same enemy) though. Even the meme Maimed build.

>>143596983
I explain bunch of stuff in my long ass post.

I decided to switch out continuity for another mod, At 75% duration and 195% strength now. Polarized base (100%) duration is around 5 seconds. You need to be at least close enough to 5 or go above it.
At 75% at least 4 seconds was able to cover the whole simulcrum field if I stand in the center.

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>>143594361
NOONE will ruin their secondaries now that aksomati prime is a better twin grakata.

what do i do with lethal torrent? RoF also does not affect PM.

OR PUNCH TRHOUGHT.

the only reason why this isnt the 3rd worse exalted weapon is because valkyr might have taken EB's place while wookie king will lag behind PM due to lack of range.

>>143596602
the day of the n** was one of my favorite days in a while. Thank you anon!

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>>143596635
>>if you are inside the bubble and shoot outside the bubble, directly away from the center, you hit yourself and you die.

this cant be real
do they never test anything?

>>143597212
Polarize removes a FLAT amount of armor, not a percentage. Meaning that it takes like 15 casts to strip the armor off of high level units. Mag has more or less be relegated to low level clearing and is practically useless against Infested because they don't have armor OR shields. All you can do is crush and magentize spam.

>>143594947
she negates shield wich is likely the only thing on her that scales.

sadly negating shields is a irrelevant thing to do

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>They nerfed or changed all the frames I played for the worst

Is this it ? Will I finally be free ?

How did they nerf Valkyr? I didn't watch the streams.

Jeez man...18.13 is pretty shit lol

I'm sitting in SimASSuras just looking at my wall like, why me?

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Playing as valkyr looks retarded now. They changed the range indicator on hysteria from a simple glow on enemies to a big obnoxious bubble that covers the whole fucking room.
The energy drain nerf is nothing though.

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Mag is kinda neat now. She's not a one trick pony anymore.

Sure, she may not be the old Corpus-slaughtering madwoman she used to be, but at least she's viable for everything else now too.

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Hey guys, Reddit here.
So, what are the new warframe memes? I am looking for something really dank to bring back to the bois! XDD

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>>143597306
she got my dick's attention to be honest senpai

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Mesa's peacemaker is definitely better

>>143597473
>practically useless against Infested
See >>143595646 although Disruptors will still eat this up.

>>143597212
Yeah you remove armor, then you cast magnetize to group them and cast polarize to remove the rest forever as I said here >>143594469

However lack of polarize nuke on Corpus is pretty uncomfortable for me. She's more of a Grineer - Corrupted killer due to debuffing armor.

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>>143595270
F

she was my go to frame for sorties

>>143597615
megan is hot stuff.

Why do they keep on fucking with the characters, they all seemed to be fine, they all had their little perks and reason why someone should play them.

Is it because the fans demanded it or what?

>>143597429
It is. Pop in the simulacrum, spawn a level 100 shield osprey or sensor regulator or something and remove your sentinel or just its weapon. I one shot myself with my 4 forma Sobek.

>>143596207
stealth damage multipliers is gonna be removed

if it wasnt already

apparently its because of EB/redeemer blind builds

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>>143597734
Because they are good game devs that ruin (nerf) weapons and characters in a co-op PVE game.

>Nerf shit ton of warframes
>Never upgrade Hydroid, Limbo, Nekros, or Oberon

Why don't they give a fuck?

And of course over at the forums the Grand SLURPERs are still violently choking on DEs dick over these changes.

>>143597634
Shut the fuck up or prove it.
Or shut the fuck up and go back to the forums..
We have over 5 anons already doing test which conclude to shit.

Are they trying to kill their game on purpose?
Maybe they think they can weasel out of their PWE contract by doing so? I just don't see the sense.

>>143597646
>all you can do is crush and magnetize spam
Yeah, I covered that.

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>double affinity, double potato weekend

what's the catch

>>143597734
Yes.

The forumites and reddit are that fucking retarded, why do you think DE keeps getting away with this bullshit?

>>143597950
You won't be using Valkyr to get those.

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>>143597615
Still has no legs or chin, even more tattoos, and more importantly she's still Megan. I'll admit that little hint of tummy is good though

>>143597731
If Megan is hot Becca makes me hope for asbestos underwear.

>>143597950
Damage control

>>143597850
This is my third game ruined by devs who don't know how to do fun and do shit right

Should I just stop playing videogames, /wfg/?

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>>143597357
you missed a point there, friend.

>IPS mods
oh so this is how it goes huh

>>143596602
I wanna cum inside of her and make her the mother of my kids

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It's not 1.8 million. It's much less.

>>143597390
and pissmakers still drain shitton of energy, have activation delay, have range limit and make you immobile

>>143597921
It's true. It's better but it doesn't mean it's great.

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>THEY
>DO
>IT
>FOR
>FREE

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>>143598098

>>143597371
I managed to make it work with 40% duration. It seems to be more reliable with higher range and longer duration.

Right now I go with 73% duration,194% strength and 250% range.

>>143597536
scaling energy costs. longer you are in hysteria more energy is consumed.

>>143598046
>playing valkyr
>ever


>>143597921
Nope, not gonna help shitters like you

>>143598258
Sigh...

>>143598206
>You will never encounter a squad of enemies that is 100% level 125 corrupted gunners, ever.

He's right. Usually it's level 100 Arctic Eximus Heavy Gunners backed up by Bombards and fucking lowly shield niggers making sure you've still got punchthrough even in third sorties.

>>143597634
>PM is better that before
>still inferior to aksomati built properly
>while having mobility issues and draining your energy of much needed other support skills

i have a idea

stop using mesa. use chroma and build it for tanking, then have fun with aksomati prime on him.

>>143597306
Lewding Becca is my only joy left in this game desu senpai.

>>143598413
>aksomati prime
Am I being memed on?

>>143598525
Becca lewds herself. All we can do is appreciate it.


we know you're reading, becca

drop us some plat codes sometime, yeah?

Anyone on PS4 have a Frost Prime Blueprint?

>>143598362
sadly they forget that the spawn is constant and usually creeps slowly into level 110

theres nothing like noticing that your sorte 3 excavation is nwo shit because there are HG and bombards spawning on 3 different directions. fuck, they dont even need to be eximus

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>>143598413

>>143598206
>you aren't testing in the field against real enemies that realistically spawn
>you will never encounter a squad of enemies that is 100% level 125 corrupted heavy gunners
No, they may not all be from the same squad, but you can get five or more of them within a ten foot radius that just walked in from different corners. And if you don't take care of them, it'll just add up even more. Especially at that level when it gets harder to kill them quickly enough.

>>143598532
no i accidentaly said somati instead of stilleto.

im still mad they released akstilletoP that looks so much like aksomatiP

The only real buff in this update is to ASH. Ninjas rejoice!

>>143597582
Still 150 base energy and need to cast 6 skills to kill one enemy? NEAT

>>143598350
>>143598258
The energy drain is still nothing at all, stop bitching. The only nerf valk got this time was a visual one. Go press 4 and you'll see.

>>143596603
>THEY TOOK OUT BONUS CRIT WHEN SHOOTING THROUGH IT
the fuck? really?

>>143597582
This is the argument made by people who never played her outside mercury. She was always viable against all factions with a fracturing crush build.

>>143598926
>visual
What did they do? What the fuck did they do?

>>143598672
>starts spawning in the fatties
>lower enemies keep spawning in anyway because why not
>lv 100 Ballistas spawn-sniping excavators
>lv 100 Seekers whose machine pistols are more dangerous than a HG's gorgon

fuck this game

>>143598883
enjoy it while it lasts
your beloved "cinematic experience" edgestorm will be receiving the nerf bat by next patch

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This is the most productive /wfg/ has ever been.

I've test the shit out. Volt goes into the trash. Trinity goes into the trash until further notice. They can't nerfed the only heal in the game right...RIGHT?

Stop talking about mag on here test it by yourselves

And mesafagd are just placeboing her tweaks so she was already in the thrash. I'll see you all in 2 weeks for U19.

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>>143595270
I still remember the first time i saw a blessing trinity.
It was a corpus excavation mission back in '14, the moment i saw her i knew she was something special and had to acquire her no matter the cost.

Currently have a 39% used on trinity and a 32% on trin p after 1050 hours of actual play time.

This recent nerf really feels like a stab in the back.

>>143599014
Why don't you go find out? :^)
I nearly threw up in my mouth when I saw it. Rip non-black energy color.

why won't excalibur parts show up on warframe market

>>143598081
stop getting attached and move on, many games that live long enough gets changed for the worse (or just to accommodate new audience and shit on old time players)

>>143598967
it's still there

>>143598234
Range seems more reliable because that's the starting point for the ability.
To get that much range, I'm suggesting you're using Blind Rage in your build?

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this damage falloff is way too severe
someone must've entered a wrong number somewhere, surely

>>143599195
Stuck at work, sadly.

>>143599112
You can still solo with Trin or EV
>being a blessing slut in pubs ever

And you forgot all the amazing passives!

>>143599360
See >>143597580

>>143599470
A bubble? As if we didn't have enough of those.

Thanks.

>>143599453
Do you actually play anything besides star chart?

>>143599112
>bless nerf
>only useable solo now
>a support frame for high level missions now has to play solo
GG DE.

>>143599453
I excepted the passives to be bad from the start.

oberon's passive is really fun doe

Is this the worst update in the history of warframe?

Trin murdered
Valk murdered
Mag murdered
Excal murdered
Mesa wasn't buffed really
Volt is still in no way an alternative to gunplay, speed was somewhat fucked over
More nerfs coming soon

>>143599112
>Volt goes into the trash
Volt was already trash except in speed.

>>143599245
I further reduced it to 67% duration, but I need another forma to finish the build with 250% range. I feel pretty confident with this. I managed to keep efficiency above 100%. The reduced duration isn't bad, as it triggers the magnetize explosion sooner. Yes, I use Blind Rage.

If I go with a 40% duration build, the magnetize explosion would trigger after 6 seconds. I'm not sure if this is worth the fiddling but I want to try this next. If it fails or seems useless, I'll fall back to the build above. It felt pretty solid.

>>143598258
>>143598350
adding on to this
>longer you are in hysteria you take more damage which gets added to your counter
>range in which deactivating hysteria near enemies causes damage has been increased to 20 and is now based on line of sight

basically fuck DE they killed my favorite casual comfy frame

>>143598206
>Sortie 3 survival eximus
>Literally exactly that fucking situation
I want to strangle this fucker

>>143595376
>DE can't shrink their tits so they just nerf them instead

>>143599714
I kinda disagree, he is/was the best blender with a far reaching melee.

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I-Is trinity too shit now? Should I just waste my oxium on Zephyr?

>>143599714
>Volt prime has a lower base sprint the normal.
>Nezha is much faster and doesn't need to go 299% strength

Pushed further into the trash

DE is the only game company in the world dumb enough to make a purely supoort frame be exponentially less effective the more people a player is supporting
Imagine this turd in raids

>>143599942
DE isn't dumb.

Their playerbase sure is though

>>143599916
>do i waste my oxium on a frame worse than a recently deded frame

hmmm

>>143599916
she's still ok for soloing

1~5 buy the last pieces of vauban and akstilleto prime
6~0 trade plat for steam games

I stopped playing for a long time right after the archwing intro, should I come back or stay away?

>>143600075
Rolling for steam.

>the longer you stay in Hysteria, the more Energy it'll cost you. (but the energy drain ramp up is capped)
>literally 4 days after I crafted Valkyr
Welp, time to prepare for Equinox nerf. I bet she will get nerfed in 10 days or so.

>>143600054
I don't know man, I just got back into playing due to friends.
I really like Trinity's design, but the asshurt over it makes me feel as though it isn't worth it.

>>143600118
Stay away. It will only get worse

>>143599940
>Volt prime has a lower base sprint the normal.
Where the hell did you heard that malarkey

>>143599783
That sounds better than my build. I might need to fiddle around more to gain more what you have.
Do you use any augments in yours? I rather crush's augment because of faster armor reduction once I cast polarize.

>mag is worthless against non corpus!
>"oh haha our mistake, thanks for the feedback, she's worthless against everything now!"

>Trin blessing limited to 50m, damage reduction completey irrevocablly fucked
>Vakyr gets instagibbed if any enemies are within 20m when deactivating hysteria
>Valkr hysteria has increasing energy costs, so you WILL exit and you WILL get instagibbed
>Excal EB is fucked beyond 5m and the first enemy
>Excal slide-blind in EB now costs energy
>Mag is ded

Goddamnit.

>>143600316
It's like you didn't read the thread on anons who actually is trying to build Mag.

>>143600235
Alright, Ill stay away.

>>143600380
I bet you think saryn is good

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>>143600554
She's obviously good at focus farming anon.

Something is very wrong with Mag's Magnetize, almost all of rapid fire weapons is very effective against magnetized target(lvl 100 corrupt launcher eximus) even with out casting polarize on the target.

>>143599625
Do you only play raids? everything else is soloable

>trin utterly ded except in solo
Well, time for 8 Wukong raid then I guess.
How long until he goes to the chopping block?

>>143600658
Fuck off Scott

So are Trials like LoR fucked then?

>add gigantic obnoxious bubble because shitters might not see the blatantly obvious highlight
>energy drain is literally nothing

>>143600258
40% duration isn't working out. The build gives me 184% strength. The 10% less are a huge deal, as I need a third cast of polarize to strip all armor.

Therefore, my current build looks like this.

67% duration
105% efficiency
250% range
194% strength

I have space for 1 augment and primed flow. I can switch the augment with any defensive mod. With fracturing crush and CP, I can strip armor after crush and 2x polarize.

Even though this looks like all-purpose already, I will try to find an alternative build before I put in the forma. But it looks pretty well already.

>>143600791
repalce BM with whoreframe quake and it would in theory work, even if you need 2 quakewhores

the bless thing... its time to consider tank frames when you reach the last stage.

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Shitters rejoice! Valk is virtually the same except the ugly visuals. Max energy drain seems to be like 2x more than before, which is nothing with efficiency mods.

>>143600974
>Human
fucking ATROCIOUS

>>143600791
The average DR from bless will be 23 %. Take a wild guess.

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>>143593646
IGN: Lath

I'd rather get to know some of you folks than to keep playing with nobodies forever. That, and clan perks. I'm shit right now, but I'm working on it.

I played Warframe a bit when it came out, wasn't impressed, left. Talked with a friend a couple years later he says, "Wanna play Warframe?" I say sure. I download it, play it for a few hours. Next day my friend comes back on mumble, I ask him when he's coming on, he just laughs.

>>143600974
What about Mesa against armored enemies? How do you increase the duration of her PeaceMaker Cone

>>143600760
you mean 8 Limbos
shitkong cant even protect the core

>>143601131
>He just laughs
For good reason
;_;

>>143601138
Limbos can't take the core.
Limbos can't stand on buttons.

>>143600205
she's sitll worth it and more useful than zephyr is, comparatively speaking

>>143601136
Personally don't care, her ult is not worth using in the current state.

So is Trinitys bless hard capped at 50m, or can it be increased? If it's just 50m, thats fucking insane and they just killed the frame. She'd literally only be good for solo tanking and EV.

>>143601309
I see, thanks.
time to scam some more people out of plat for sweet sweet slots

>>143600205
If you play exclusively solo, she's good.

But for team play she's trash, a rhino helps more than she does right now.

>>143601446
It's 50 meters no matter what.

>>143600205
If you want to be EV slut
>where is energy, Trinity
>what and noob Trin!

>>143600919
>>143601080
so im seeing this like this

>EV/bless trin
>carry loki
>at least 1 properly invincible frame that can down hek
>2 whoreframes
>possibly 2 vaubans

everything goes as normal except the need for CC is greater. likely 3 or 4 frames will have to CC. on stage 1 bless will be used to restore HP, oberon might outdo trinity

on second stage im certain you will need 3 CCing frames. hek flying form wont be CCed so the tank needs to kill it, along with preventing it from attacking anyone.

on last stage to down hek you will need loki to decoy really well and if that fails the tank frame must be always the closest to hek, and hope hek decides to attack it instead of anyone else. at this point the team can burn revives, all that matters is that the tank keeps himself alive and can down hek.

>>143601219
At the time it was v14 I think, I had a point where i stopped again for a while, then wondered why i stopped, and picked it back up again a few days ago.

>>143600835
Ah I see, that's great.
Mind showing your build or a webm demonstratiom if you have the time?

I think Mag would be a good Armor debuff, mostly solo CP, she seems better killing off Grineer and Corrupted now.

I'm still fickle if she'll be good for pubs.

>>143601235
cant hack either.

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>Steve will never show up in an ISIS execution video

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Welp, fatfuck and jew midget bitch can't into balancing a game.

Thanks youtube nigger, your incompetency and anger at anyone who doesn't listen to your slurred autism speak has finally rubbed off on the devs completely.

Even the forum white knights are going "what the fuck" now.

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>>143601760
>steve is more likely to peform a ISIS execution video that to be on the receiving end

>>143600791
You dont need Blessing in the regular ones where you can easily perma CC all mobs.
especially If everyone has QTs

>>143601446
The issue isn't the range, it's the fact that it gives fuck all DR,meaning it's pointless

I'll put this in words that will make you understand tge unfathomable, cyclopean nerf she just received.

OBERON is better than her for improving a squad's survivability.

Understand that, and let the terrible truth worm its way into your mind.

im enjoying the game so far but grinding the planet mission starts to get tedious because of the time it takes to find squads.
does it get better at higher levels,im currently at saturn.

If someone makes Mesa good I will buy her Tennogen Helmet.

I've already tried the 250 build and the 200 STR build.

Working on a Balance + PWR + Rage

>Tfw reading those 2 anon's talking about their Mag builds
>In order for Mag to become viable you need to heavily balance out 3 stats

This is Chroma all over again.

>Decide to bring Mesa on the Proxy alert
>Pub it and in my team are a Volt, a Trinity, and Excalibur
>Barely manage to finish it
>Volt asks me how Mesa's peacemaker is now
>Ask Volt how his shield is now
>We both don't respond
fug.

>>143601991
Use Primed Pistol mods and she is a killing machine that puts Ash and Equinox to shame in T4 defense

>>143601964
It get's better in a sence that you are more likely to find team mates as you approach higher level planets.

it get's worse in a sense that 95% of the time your team mates are shit eating faggots that can't do anything right.

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Volt is a NET NERF. You know why?

This fucking stealth nerfed his shields to only allow 4 up at once, just like with Frost's Snow Globe.

One step forward, fifty steps back. FUCK

>>143601964
it gets worse. there are at best 5 nodes that everyone goes to. possibly 9 if you count spy for ivara'ss farm.

>>143601991
see>>143597390

afaik, build your secondary with status, no multishot or RoF. you might succeed with corrosive procs but afaik, PM rework was a useless rework.

>>143602241
Volt can literally give all his squadmates a personal riot shield.

I wager the ammount nerf was because enemies take damage when passing through now, so if you could spam it, you could theoreticaly make an instakilling wall.

>>143601964
Read the thread. At the end of the grind there is nothing but disappointment.

>>143601964
is that a bait?
planets are dead beyond Saturn, no one plays anything except void and Draco/Triton
the game is broken, if you stopped having fun - move on to better games

>>143602423
Isn't picking it up self only? Having an infinite amount of shields up was one of the few advantages it had over Frost. The other advantage was boosting offense. I think they stripped out the critical multiplier too. My Lex Prime isn't doing 20k crits anymore.

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>mfw this fucking patch.

So, its kill?
We are finally free?

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I hate this range on Trin's blessing. The number of times Ive gone to heal somebody in the squad and nothing happening is upsetting. It would be a bit better if on the hud thingy for everyone's health/shields would also show their distance from you. But optimally the range should not exist.

>>143602614
Sounds weird because my Lex P did a 99k crit with the shield up.

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>>143601961
>OBERON is better than her for improving a squad's survivability.
>Oberon now has the only global heal

>>143602614
volt's shield was always timed, this just adds to the cost of the shield.

hell im going out of my way and say volt's original role of quick MD runs is bad because pubs will grab shields and run off to nowhere

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>>143602776
Oh please, like you have the will to leave.
Fuck, I already left from some other game that became shitty due to the playerbase, what am I gonna do now?

Is Scott an unsung hero?

Was his plan to destroy everything we hold dear so that we finally became free?

How do we make oberon better?

Scott refusing to think of anything new starts eating an entire ham. "NERUFH TRINUTH SO THE HEAL BRENCHMARK IS LOWER"

His obese jowls flapping in frustration. His incompetence shown for all the world to see.

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Good lord guise,

I just saw the patch notes today.
Is a LOR raid even possible now? Mirage Prism. now Line of Sight. Does blessing no longer make us nigh invulnerable?

instead of buffing Oberon are they just going to make every other frame as useless as he is?

next nerf will be Bladestorm ash. I can feel it.

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Re-test with Mesa PM.

AkSomati:
>maxed out, modded for Corrosive using 90% elements
>2.7s TTK

PM:
>272% power strength Mesa (no survivability mods, 4.5 energy drain, higher than I want, r5/r6 BR will probably be better for usage than r7)
>Secondaries not modded for Multishot (since PM doesn't use multishot), uses two dual-stat mods in place of multishot
>2.7 TTK

So in the end PM and AkSomatis have identical TTKs on armored units when modded for corrosive.

Note that this Mesa build is the highest strength build you can realistically sustain and uses zero survivability mods. I've actually tested a 217% Mesa build (using Vitaility instead of Transient Fortitude) and surprisingly, TTK was 3 seconds for both PM and AkSomatis with no significant differences (<.1s)

(TTK taken from video timestamps)

On unarmored units, when modded for Viral, PM has significantly better TTK than AkSomatis (not shown)

Importantly, AkStilleto P has better TTK than AkSomati against armored without 4x CP because of its status. Against unarmored, AkSomatis and AkStilletos have close enough to be identical rates (info taken from h3dshot's video)

tl:dr - PM is as good as AkSomatis against armored units without 4xCP, but likely not as good as AkStilleto
PM is significantly better than AkSomatis against unarmored, likely much better than AkStilletos also

Is Mesa good now? I'm going to venture that Mesa is at least viable for endgame now. PM has much better range than pistols and doesn't require aiming, and the test also didn't take into account PM's spool-up damage

>>143602994
Get rid of the fucking delay for the heal. Why do we have to wait for the gay ball to ram someone in the ass across the map for the heal to start?

>>143603004
Normal mode will be fine, nighmare not so much.

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>>143603035
wow and of course I uploaded the completely wrong image

>>143602975
My pc died like a week ago, so i'm just wasting my time shitposting and playing diablo on a shitty notebook, or kancolle.

>>143603035
Viable for killing people in Defenses inside a Snow Globe, but in Survival she'll need the help of Trinity's 99% damage reduction to survive ;_;

>>143603035
still immobile and 2.7s was never a viable TTK. a enemy can down your mesa in less that a second.

how many enemies you plan on killing with PM? because thats surely not happening at the rate of one per 2,7 seconds on sortie 3

Weird, my Peacemaker is causing around 14.000 damage per shot. You people sure it isnt working as it is supposed to?

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I have never felt this cucked on Warframe before. How many litres of tears is the fatfuck drinking right now?

>>143601991
>giving DE money after all this

Mesa is definitely better and can be usable if you don't mind being an immobile turret and can keep up with energy drain

>>143603569
Enough that he's evolved into Super Fat.

>>143603390
PM and guns both have pros and cons. PM roots you still but has significantly better range than guns and doesn't need aiming. PM has energy drain but doesn't use ammo.

The 1 enemy/2.7s comparison you're making is unfair. HGs represent the tankiest units in the game. PM has significantly better TTK against lighter units and unarmored units (though to be fair, so do guns).

In the end I'm really hoping that multishot not working on PM is a bug

>>143603510
on unarmored it might

however TTK on anything unarmored doesnt matter. hell id wage you arent even facing ancients who can give huge armors to shitty mobs

>>143603035
Good shit. I didn't feel like spoon-feeding myself. Wit the right planned team, she can help drastically since 2 disarms globed enemies
>>143603390
;-;
>>143603390
>He doesn't know
Fucking idiot

>>143603347
>HG
>tankiest

>>143603668
multishot, RoF in the very least. so should punch trhought. that would fix PM's shittyness, likely that TTK would be reduced to less that one second if multishot and rof kicks in

>Ash nerf soon

Ho boy, i can't wait for the shitstorm from edgelords.

I checked out the range of polarize. With 282% duration and 184% range, I can cover about 100m with polarize. It takes over 10 seconds until there. Up there, magnetize has a duration of 40 seconds. It's not doing much though. The magnetize area doesn't grow enough to justify the long duration. You only disable a relatively small area and you can't use your own projectiles against targets outside.

To generalize, I don't think Mag works well with high duration right now. The polarize wave is damn slow. If you want to combine fracturing crush with polarize, you want to cover the same targets with several waves. Casting polarize again cancels the first wave mid-way. It's much better to go with high range.

>>143601727
I'll use her for solo stuff and draco. You're right. Mag suddenly turned into a Grineer killer. DEAC Corpus might still die easier without their shields.

I'll post a screenshot of my build later when I have the forma in. It's CP, cunning drift (exilus slot), blind rage, transient fortitude, primed flow, fleeting expertise, overextended, primed continuity, stretch, free slot. all maxed.

>>143603004
>next nerf will be Bladestorm ash. I can feel it
Forumshitters are already bitching about bladestorm.

>>143603701
Actually, they are pretty heavily armored. It must be because im using Primed Mods?

>>143597536
>>143598258
The energy cost actually isn't all that bad if you have 60% or more efficiency. The REAL problem is the range of the self-damage-on deactivation. There is now a visual circle that expands the longer you are in hysteria, up to like 15-20 meters. If anything is in that circle, you take the full amount of the stored damage. Range mods CANNOT affect the deactivation circle, meaning you have to be smart and watch both your energy and the range of the circle.

>>143604131
post build and enemies then

>>143594732
>what are you going to play now?

I feel like trading one kind of cancer for another kind of cancer.

Planetside 2

>>143603991
>Draco
>You should have 4xCP in a proper group
>No armor means polarize does 0 damage

>>143603812
They are. Beside shit like Juggernauts, what units are tankier than HGs?

>>143604656
bombards methinks

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>>143603993
Samefagging, but goddamn this makes me mad, Trinity just got dicked big time, and people are already crying like a bunch of fucking babies that Ash is too OP now. It never end with these people, fucking everything just has to be nerfed.

>those Buffs...
Goddamn, we are reaching a new low.

Tera is any good? I need something to waste my life.

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Hi /wfg/, I just started playing Warframe again after like over a year.

Apparently Ember Prime is expensive now, and I found out that I have the helmet, the chassis and the systems. How much should I sell each for?

>>143601608
>Not 4 man raid

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>volt is slower

No he's not you autists. The fov doesn't stretch out anymore, so you don't have that illusion of going faster. It seems the same to me with 309% pwr str. And he is in no way slower then nezha, get out of here.

>>143604696
Surprisingly, no. They have the same armour rating, but for alloy instead. Less actual health though. Even Napalms have more than Bombards.

How exactly is the new blessing damage resistance calculated?

>>143604816
Systems is the only thing out of those 3 that sells for a lot.

>>143604647
So? I do not go to draco and spam polarize. Do you?

>>143605002
Read the forum post, they even included the fucking formula, jesus.

>>143603569
The money will go to the graphic designer more than DE

>Blind Mirage dead
>Excal dead
>Volt, Mag more dead
>Valkyr maybe dead
>Bless trin dead

What next?

>>143605002
Squared average proportion of health healed
So less effective the more people are in your squad

>>143603390
I can wipe out all 20 in sim no problem, of course using her 2-3 to not die

still requesting chroma build pic ;_;

>>143605192
Bladestorm soon.

Next patch only planet that we going have is mercury and maybe saturn for endgame.

>>143605192
Loki

>>143605002
Damage Resistance % = 100% - (Average (Tenno Health %))^2

a bless trin self harms to bless. her team has a average of 0.75 health as she casts bless. the blesss DR is ~43%.

range is 50m and cannot be modded to higher. hallway heroes are even deader that before and the need to CC on interception is still surreal.

>>143605459
When that happens, I'm officially done.

How are t4int pugs now? Is everyone running rhino yet or is it complete chaos?

>Reminder: Someone needs to tell DE that Multi-shot mods do not work on Mesa
>Reminder: DE is getting rid of Multi-Shot Mods in U19

>>143605548
im guessing it will devolve into a EV trin with at least one whoreframe quaking on the center of the tileset.

>>143596602
Share the webm faggot.

>>143605459
>loki must now trick enemies by hitting them with his melee weapon to disarm them. Wall hang time increased to 20 seconds.

>>143605495
>Not having everyone on voice chat and syncing up glaive self damage
Pls

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>>143605548
>>143605620
>they don't know

Good.

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>>143605604
>DE is getting rid of Multi-Shot Mods in U19
nononono
You're messing with me right?
This is an elaborate ploy.

>>143605526
Isn't loki is fatfuck favorite frame or something?

>>143604369
Enemies were t4 defense ones. I use fully ranked Hornet Strike, Lethal Torrent, Barrel Diffusion, Target Cracker, Pathogen Rounds, Convulsion, Pistol Pestilence and Primed Pistol Gambit r8

Peacemaker's damage is mostly around 14.000 to 20.000. Sometimes its as low as 8.000 or as high as 50.000

I don't know what I did to make those numbers though

>>143604897
I think picking up the shield slows him down considerably.

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>>143605604

>>143605771
Nah, that's Rhino.

>>143605662
Say the magic word.

>>143605192
Valkyr is practically untouched.
Only thing I had to change about her after the patch was her energy color because of the horrendous new range indicator.

>>143605708
Something like this really needs to be tested (assuming it already hasn't and I'm a faggot that didn't see it). If everyone is at 2 health, do you give the same invincibility that a solo Blessing does?

>>143605789
thats not sortie level enemies. its around level 80 or so i think by wave 40.

sure it kicks ass on DEAC. everything does because the game works at those levels.

>>143605808
whats the source on that gif?

guys what was trinity's old blessing DR formula asking to prove a point to my shitter friend

>>143605857
Cuck.

>>143605942
anime

>>143605926
Hmmm... I will try in the Sortie then to see what ahppens. Waita bit

>>143605946
DR = 1 - lowest %HP

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>>143603991
>mfw Mag now requires a lot of work than ever in order to succeed efficient crowd control armor removal when soloing.

PANIC.