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BMS ops WHEN

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>>143575754
1st for 10% forum warning for nothing.

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2nd for F-16 best planefu

nth for more helo sims when

>>143576220
I got 40% and a month ban for my first offense of criticizing ED, you got lucky.

>>143576220
>I din du nuffin

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>>143576403

NO WEENIES ALLOWED

>>143576270

why can't there be more good helo flight sims fuck

DCS is like the only game that does helicopter flight well and the most potent helicopter in the game is a teeny little russian thing that never entered serial production because even the soviets realized that having the pilot and the gunner merged into a single crewman was a bad idea

>>143576467
You probably started screaming like an autist.

>>143577286
Sad thing is no. It was back when shitspawn was a total fucker and edited Why's thread on how to fix model enlargement to made it look like it was just a mod, and moved it to the depths of the mod section to effectively hide it. Hence model enlargement is still fucked, and still doesn't scale with resolution.

Pointing this out to the other people in the thread was evidently not a good idea.

>>143577645
>tfw no one will ever GCI for me and me alone so I can put my R-13s up Jester's ass and then shame him into committing suicide

>>143577812
>when shitspawn was a total fucker
Why, happened to shitspawn? Did he stop being a mod?

>>143577929
he is online senpai, come to ts.

>>143577979
You wish. I just thought that was a new low for him.

>>143578078
Huh. As I said in the other thread, your best bet is getting your shit translated into russian and posting it in the russian part of the forum.

>>143578231
This, just use yandex translate, it's pretty servicable, and post it in english and Russian then say you are very very sorry for the bad Russian.

>>143578489
Hell you'll likely find someone willing to translate the shit for you, if not here on /int/.

>>143577935

I should have screenshot the shit his friend said.

"Harmless what exactly are you doing that causes me to drop to 4fps when ever I look at you"

>>143578072
Can't right now, I'm wagecuckies.

>>143578910
>Flying mig21
>Shitty potato computers can't handle the polygons and textures

This is next level electronic warfare.

>>143576220
>>143576467
>Going on ED's forums

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>>143580048
>not going to purposely bait turbo autist and shitpost

>>143580048

You kind of have to sometimes. ED doesn't release changelogs for third party modules fucking ever, most of the third party devs only do updates on in-progress stuff on the forum, and occasionally you have to trawl the forum for a hotfix for something.

Why do all fucking forums inevitably end up being shit? It's not that hard. I used to run a goddamn forum and it was the easiest shit in the world.

>>143580326
>be MiG-21 pilot
>radar has been broken for two fucking months
>have to go to the forums every so often to see if Leatherneck has their thumbs out of their ass yet
>6 weeks later, they finally claim to have a fix that's coming in the next patch
>they said this 3 times before
>a week later they actually release a hotfix, which broke a shitton more stuff but marginally fixes the radar
>still probably not implemented, will have to reapply the hotfix after today's update
>look on forums
>not even a fucking word has been said about the status of my favorite module

I don't even want the Viggen or F-14 anymore, not if it takes Leatherneck this long to roll an update out on fucking game/sim-breaking bugs.

I don't see why they don't get shit on more than they do, I think it's just "first real fighter module" hype that's still carrying over.

They really deserve to be banged up over this shit.

>>143582070
Fucking Russian expat batnz.

>>143581909


oh yeah LNS is shit.

>viggen supposed to be announced at the beginning of 2016
>it is now the end of May and not a peep
>F-14 gets a "two-part" news update, with the second part supposed to be coming a week after
>it's been like a month since that and still no part 2
>MiG-21 bugs, the most consistently bugged third party aircraft in the game

They're immune to criticism though because everyone loves the fishbed because ralfidude made a admittedly pretty good review video for it and everyone gargles his cum for some reason

Hopefully, with the F-5 providing another DCS-level "multirole" fighter, their spotlight will be stolen a bit and they'll actually have some incentive to step their game up.

>>143582468
Part 2 of that update came out on May 9th, anon.

There just wasn't anything fucking new in it.

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BMS

>>143582468
>step their game up.

Here have a 3milion triangle f14, with 4k texture sets :^)

>>143582767

Wait, that tiny little forum post was supposed to be part two?

l m a o

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>>143582785

>>143582468
>They're immune to criticism though because everyone loves the fishbed because ralfidude made a admittedly pretty good review video for it and everyone gargles his cum for some reason
>namedropping ts faggots

Fuck you, I like MiG-21 for what it is: a sanic 3rd gen plane, unlike that MUH COMPUTAZ 4gen push-x-to-win shit. Also, that's why BMS sucks, it has no planes that requure skill in it, only arcade.

>>143583165
It says "F-14 DEVELOPMENT UPDATE - PART 2," so I assume that's what it was intended to be, yes.

Nevermind everything in it was 2-3 weeks old at the time it was posted. So far as anyone could tell going by that update, no progress had been made whatsoever.

They're in fucking "crunch time" for the Viggen right now, but we've still seen absofuckinglutely nothing about it, and that plane is supposed to come out this year, along with the F-14 being in beta by the end of the year, allegedly.

I tend not to believe a fucking word Leatherneck says anymore. Recently, RAZBAM's been running FUCKING CIRCLES around them so far as pace of development/fixes on the mostly guesswork 2000 goes, and RAZBAM's a bunch of fucking banana men whose huts recently got knocked over by earthquakes.

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>>143583598

GOOD
ASS
SIM

Anyways, I'm done shitposting.

I just hope all you Viggenfags enjoy your custom LNS air-to-ground radar that DOESN'T FUCKING WORK when it eventually comes out.

I was excited for it too, not after putting up with LNS' bullshit for the past couple months.

>>143583703

Y'know, for how much shit people give Razbam for how much on the M2000 is fudged, they're pretty ABAP devs so far (aside from unironically asking if the community wanted a shitty turboprop with no precision munitions)

>razbam the flight model is shit
>sorry have a fix and then another fix in every update
>razbam the missile sucks
>okay have a new one
>razbam the radar is broke
>okay we fixed it
>razbam i found a historical loadout that we can't do in game
>okay we added it

Polychop might be able to go that way if they'll either fix the gazelle's low speed handling/autopilot at low speed, or release an explanation for why it works the way it does.

>>143584240
Isn't the Gazelle's autopilot only capable of keeping the helicopter stable at pitch/bank of up to 45deg? That's how it feels in-sim, once you roll past 45, the AP gives up, and you have to wrestle it back inside it's limits. It feels right at low-speed desu, being that sensitive. It's a tiny helicopter.

What's the current go-to IL-2 Cliffs of Dover mod?

>>143584240
Last I checked, the radar fixes aren't in game yet, but supposedly they're ready and coming soon..

along with the rest of the PPA, close combat mod/radar functions, and a whole slew of other shit finally being ready to be implemented in the next couple weeks (eclair already in open beta build, 4 magics becoming possible, etc).

Meanwhile, Leatherneck can't even get an update pushed to a module they released a year and a half ago.

It's pretty clear who the better devs are at this point. Shit, any time there's a bug with the Mirage in the current beta implementation, their devs have been REALLY good about responding, asking for information, and gettting fixes rolled out as they can.. the worst thing they've done was patch the jamming iconography in for the radar without testing it, which caused CTD's for two weeks.. again, not exactly their fault, though, because CptSmiley had a fix ready within 24 hours, it's just that ED didn't push a patch for a while.

>>143584523

The problem with low speed handling is that hte autopilot just kind of stops functioning at all- below a certain speed threshold, the yaw channel has a sort of "soft" disengage where it remains on visually, but it stops correcting entirely. It's a very abrupt thing- you pass under the limit and the helo instantly jumps to the left, then you pass back over the speed and it jumps to the right because the AP is now commanding antitorque corrections and your own rudder input is being added to that.

That's my main issue with it so far- if they can show that that's how it's supposed to work, fine, but as it is the manual has no information on the autopilot other than how to turn it on and a brief description of the hold modes.

>>143584240
>>143585035
Oh, I fucking forgot.

THEY FIXED THE CANNONS' DAMAGE, TOO.

They're really god-damn powerful in the open beta build right now, feels about like they should, it's no longer taking 3 bursts or more to cut through a fighter, and the fucker is actually capable of hurting A-50s without using all its ammunition only to take out a couple engines and otherwise do no real damage.

>>143584989
TFM.

>>143584989
Team Fusion, as if there are any other mods for it.

>>143585223

Now if only ED will implement the second part of that mod and fix the P-51's guns.

I was actually able to set things on fire with that mod. I had never seen an aircraft catch fire without exploding in DCS prior to loading that up, but by god I got a burst off on a Messer and the fucker lit up and burned out, and it was satisfying as all fuck

It's not even a hard thing to do- literally all that guy had to do was edit some lua shit, and historical documentation to prove that US fighters flew up with actually-useful payloads of incendiary ammo is all over the place to the point that you have to actively look away from it to justify the current ammo loading on the P-51.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/411910/?snr=1_5_1100__1100

>>143586059
>€41 for a lame frog chopper
Fuck that.

>>143586239

>$50 for a recce helo that can only go around 170km/h
>$50 for a recce helo that can only fly, with nominal fuel load, for about 2 hours
>$50 for a recce helo that's pulling 80% on the torque flying level at cruising speed when loaded
>$50 for a helo that can only be armed with 4 shitty short-range ATGMs guided by a TV screen that eats frames

>>143586606
>he buys his modules based on their capabilities

Pffffff, enjoying the F-15 are we? How pleb can you get?

>>143585046
I think bunyap mentioned in a video that the autopilot modes get overridden below a certain speed (although he was talking about speed and alt holds). I know that he has access to the actual flight manuals.

Is it possible to make Freetrack work with DCS World?

>>143587083

>flying baby cliffs
>flying fixed wing

The Hip is pretty fun thanks for asking

I enjoy being able to carry fifty Katyusha's worth of rockets on my lumbering skywhale

>>143587462
Why wouldnt it?

>>143585698
Yeah, IIRC ED implemented an official historical loadout but gave the rounds values for the wrong rounds. Something like their API is just a tracer and their AP is just a ball. All the mod did was use a more historically common loadout with proper values.

>>143586947
If I were you I'd respond with a really polite "I apologize for nothing as his conduct is way worse than mine, and even if you ban me you'll make me a favor given how bad your meme events are. Get fucked.".

>>143587557
got my delan and was using facetracknoir and found i'd like a decent diagonal axis? heard freetrack is regarded better than FTNR anyway

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The chopper's finally got a new engine in it, I'm able to fly again, hopefully I'll find a time to get more snappy-shots, maybe even this weekend

In the meantime, I've got the Gazelle, finally, and it's fun as fuck, but boy oh boy is it rough

>>143588062

How do you find its performance when transitioning into ground effect? Is all that shit I said about it ballooning out true, or am I just shit?

>>143588062
neat coastline, anon, but where is it?

>>143587462
>>143588010
>freetrack
Did you mean "opentrack"?

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>>143588062
First off, for the good, the engine and avionics seem properly modeled, as far as I would assume, at least, I've never gotten actual stick time in the Gazelle and certainly haven't fired a missile from one. Also, it's zippy as fuck and maneuvers quite well, as would be expected from a small, light, egg-shaped machine. In a cruise it's quite good, overall

The problems crop up when taking off; ground effect is like a forcefield, there's no translational lift, the slightest bit of pedal past the balance point sends you off on the rodeo and there's absolutely no "light on the skids" moment at all. I distinctly remember talking about this with another guy in /simg/, and now I can tell you first hand that the flight model is unfinished. Sure, it's just when you're hovering, but hovering is kind of important in a helicopter

>>143588062
Why don't you get rid of that stupid chopper and buy a real aircraft, like a Cessna?

>>143588570

hello robinson anon it is me, ground effect anon

also when you roll the gazelle over the nose automatically rises for a high rate turn, is that realistic in any way at all? none of the other helos in the game do that.

>>143588436
No, Freetrack.
Though I'm open to anything really.

>>143588217
The ground effect is definitely wacky, and translational lift doesn't happen. I picked up and gave no control inputs other than a bit of forward cyclic just to be sure, and next thing you know I'm cruising at 150 knots skimming the ground without so much as a hint of climb.

Also, you're probably shit, but so am I, and every pilot who is still alive.

Well, maybe not shit, but nobody's perfect, and it's better that way. Once you decide you're "perfect" you lose your humility and start to make mental errors, and that's how to make dead pilots

>>143588669
I'm actually planning on doing a fixed-wing transition, but not right away, I need to accrue some cash and sign up with a second aircraft club.

Also, that is most definitely not my helicopter, I'm not anywhere rich enough to own anything that flies

>>143588669
I would really like the Skyhawk if it weren't so goddamn ugly and capable of flight at above the speed of smell.

>>143589296
I thought freetrack was abandoned by its developers?

>>143588857
From what I've seen of the DCS Gazelle, it seems that the nose is actually quite apt to drop with a high rate of turn, which is similar to what I've noticed in real life. In forward flight it handles like a souped up Robinson with a leftward-leaning torque effect instead of right

did we lose blue flag?

server been down for a while

>>143587597

The information comes from USAAF standard, not from operational experiences that amended it in the field. The BoS P-40 is the same, they got the engine limits from training/domestic documents and just ignored the thousands of lines of combat reports that contradict them.

Imagine that right, people doing things differently in the field to in theory...

>>143589936
It's called opentrack now I think.

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>>143590108
Is this asshole fucking telling lies again or is the server up now?

Is there a good resource to find out what is actually on the f-16's HOTAS? I want to bind stuff to be as accurate as possible.

>flying the gazelle again
>decide to practice an auto in it
>flying 170km/h at 250ft agl
>find a nice field
>cut the throttle
>helo sinks like a fucking rock
>floor the collective, dip nose to try and recover some forward airspeed
>no change on rotor rpm, still sinking like a madman, not gaining any appreciable amount of airspeed
>flare hard and pull the collective all the way up in an attempt to not pancake
>arrest my descent a bit, but not enough to keep the helo from exploding

Huh. I was following Chuck's little youtube guide (which is apparently based on the manual for the aircraft). Am I just doing it wrong, or what? Collective position didn't seem to affect rotor rpm or lift generated at all until I yanked it all the way back up.

Autoing every other helo in the game is easy, but generally they all have much lower disk loading.

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>>143593449
I did a power-on autorotation to a hover in it, or at least tried to, and found myself lawndarting. I'd say the Gazelle is decidedly not finished in the "flight model" category

>>143594976

How fucking rich are you

I looked into getting some flight time in a helo. Local airport doesn't rent them, regional one an hour or two from me does but it's like $300/hr wet without an instructor (which is like an extra $75/hr)

I talked to a couple of older guys I know who've done it, they said they did it mainly by doing work around the airport and using that to bum flight hours off of them, but I don't think that shit happens anymore

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>>143596704
I don't fly all that often. Going rate is $230/hr alone, $300 with instruction. Every time I go and fly it's a few days' worth of paychecks that go into it, needless to say, and it's not exactly something you can do while working in the food service or retail industry. Also, fuck that. I hit rock bottom working at a supermarket, never a-fucking-gain You could go Part 141 and go to a regular school to get your training, but it winds up costing just as much. I'm trying to become a professional pilot, though, and I fucking love flying, so it's worth the cost

Also, I really wish I had the fancy GoPro back in the fall

Any suggestions on stabilizing the head tracker? I feel like I have to keep centering it, and zooming in to read instruments is a bit awkward.

>>143599208

>smoothing

>>143599208
Do you use any of the smoothing options? You can use those or set the curves. Remember, the most you need to look behind you is ~160° and you only need 90° vertical and say 45° down

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Gaza strip war crime bombing ops when

>>143600743
How is that fun at all? Do they even have any AA?

>>143601045
it's good for practicing weapons deployment, like SPICEs, LGBs, Mavericks, etc..

>>143600743
I'm a scrub to BMS. Is that the Korea map or is another one? How do I play it?

>>143601406

This one is the Isreal theater.

If you are looking to get into BMS, I'd get Isreal and Balkans.

Those two with Korea is the theaters we play.
We have BMS ops almost every night, just hop in the TS when ever.

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>>143601708
BMS OPS WHEN

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>tfw getting sent to the principles office

>>143601989

Prepare for autism

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>>143601989
>We would like to discuss the conduct of your squad
That sentence doesn't sound good at all. I'm already getting highschool flashbacks

>>143600743
That's not even the real city. You dumb shits are bombing a cheap painted mockup that the Hamas created to fool inexperienced Israeli pilots.

>>143601989
#1 reason I don't fly with dabois although I fully support your shitposting

I'm sorry the DCS community can't handle the banter that they fucking started, I'll be certain to report Jester the next time he spergs out.

>>143601989
What's that, a PM?

>>143602995
We like bms more than dcs senpai. We only play dcs to shitpost and meme.

>>143603457
Honestly, I'd be playing BMS with you fucks if I hadn't put so much time in F4.0 as a teenager.

I'm just done with the Viper, man.

I didn't ever really play it with BMS, though, maybe I'll reinstall and check it out sometime

>>143602695
Its not that bad as people makes it sound.

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PLons

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>>143602727
I like their style

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>he's not playing FS2002

>>143611563
That actually looks better than BMS.

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>>143609219

That's a nice plon right there

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is this a plon?

>>143612879
It's a target if you can keep it in the air long enough to be fired at.

>>143612879
tells you in the filename friend

>>143612879
It's a mongrel child who has no place in this world.

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Okay, next question. Is this a plon?

>>143613507
halfies are cuuuute~

>>143613639
Is veri specioul samolyet xaxaxaxa

>>143613639
Yeah, it can climb to 25k feet.

>>143613639
It's the reason why Russians generally stick to copying the West because their original ideas a fucking stupid.

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>>143614364
at least they looked unique tho desu

>>143614702
Yeah, they'd be right at home in a 1970's Bond film.

Question: why does /simg only mention MiG-25 and never mention its younger brother, the MiG-31?

RUDIMENTARY DCS OPS ABOUT TO HAPPEN

OCA STRIKE ON A FIELD FULL OF B-52 WITH MIG 21's, SU25A's AND MIRAGES

Come get memed on by avengers and vulcans.

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>>143613639
I think GEVs actually count as boats.

>>143618223
VERY FAS EKRANOPLAN SAILING AT INCREDIBLY HIHG SPEED

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I've gotten the Gazelle to stabilize in a hover by adding the missiles to it.

Now I just need to figure out how to actually shoot the things at targets, the tutorial said YOU'RE WINNER while the autohover was failing and I was in the midst of LTE, that is, of course, the one time out of ten it actually started without first putting me in VRS

>>143618420
Now you make me want an ekranoplan simulator.

>>143618656
That thing is so tiny. Even a baseball bat would defeat it in combat.

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WHEN
H
E
N

>>143592519
The Falcon BMS manual lists everything with pictures.

>>143619497
I don't think it was designed with fair fights in mind. The concept of the thing seems to be "sucker punch a motherfucker so hard he can't get up and leave before his friends show up"

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>>143617950
RUDIMENTARY DCS OPS A SUCCESS

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DCS NOT EVEN ONCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jEz03Z8azc

>irl R77's can fly into space and return to a launch pad

>in DCS they can't kill a target to save their lives.

Wow.

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>>143623305

>>143623305
Launch your missile above mach 1. They're still horrible, but at least hey spend less time in high transonic drag area.

>>143623716
Supposedly waffles are good as supersonic fins or something, so I guess that makes sense?

>>143625096
This also applies to the AMRAAM, I think it has to do with the way DCS is handling missiles atm, so it's best to remove that problem is by firing while supersonic already.

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>>143629504
awoo~

>mfw just got my LASIK waiver approved and heading to UPT in September
see you on the other sides boys

>>143629854

damn nigga you serious?

what country, what branch, what proofs

>>143629854
nicely done

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>>143623716

>implying I'm ever not going mach 1 in the MiG-29

Come on bruh

>>143630049
Be very surprised how slow some people fly in jets for some reason.

>>143629854
Dam, good luck anon.
please, give me some tips on how to get selected

>>143629915
USA, AF, just got a text from someone in my det telling me the detachment commander received an email telling him my shit was approved

>>143630291
Max PT, decent gpa (At least like a 3.4, your major makes very very little difference), field training scores, and the biggest of all is your commander's rank. This is for ROTC.

>>143630291
Also I forgot about PCSM and afoqt, my PCSM was like a 75, and my AFOQT pilot section was like an 83.

>>143630291
Also, if you have 0 flight hours, do a discovery flight, I paid $120 for it, and it was 1 hour, but it's one flight hour which gives you a huge boost on the pcsm.

>>143630498
Please excuse me retardedness.
>field training
What is it?
>Max PT!?
If you don't mind, can you refresh my memory about what does PT include?
What do you usually do when you work out?

Was going to ask about your scores and flight hours, but I see you added those in later responses
i will probably end up going for OTS, because of reasons

>>143630658
Was TBAS difficult?

>>143629854
Also
>going to UPT
You don't need to go through IFS?

>>143622328
VEAO?

>>143630218
The thing burns fuel like mad. That said, I do usually keep it above 1000 kmph when I'm about to engage.

>boiz gets banned
>red team falls
Amazing

>>143633363
just say it got disband and join back in or something

>>143634006
Naw its just 3 people that got banned afaik

I have a fat pipe at my office, and a recently decommissioned server that's sitting idle. It's a 2 socket Xeon with 24 gigs of RAM; does DCS still require a video card?

>>143634236
and it's a ban for what? sick bants? sick cheats?

>>143634345
Some people feelings got hurt

>>143634332
There's an option to turn off rendering but afaik, yes.

wew, RAZBAM fixed the Mirage tailstriking if you try and land it how the manual tells you.

>>143583670
BMS sucks because every fucking thing has a F-16 cockpit.

DCS sucks for performance reasons, still limited plane selection, and pay-per-module.

Fuck it. I'm sticking with Wings Over Vietnam.

>>143634332
Da Bois hosted ____flag WHEN
Or
Alternatively, dank OPS WHEN

>>143634332
Does that server's mobo not have a slot for graphics cards or something? If not, why not just get a server mobo that has one? As far as I know they go for pennies on ebay.

>>143634739
>DCS sucks [...] pay-per-module.
How is that a problem? How is most of the shit not working as intended such as missiles or FLIR not a problem? How is the lack of content for anything that isn't from the late 70s/mid 80s not a problem?

>>143634793
>>143634332
Da boys: da server when?

Running 3rd gen madness, 24/7

>>143634332
DCS:W requires DX11 to run.

>>143634865
>How is that a problem?
In itself it wouldn't be so bad if there was some fucking user-made freeware out there, especially when they want you to pay for FC3 tier aircraft.
It creates a pricing problem where if you like multiple aircraft instead of having a boner for a single model to the exclusion of all else, you're gonna get keked on cost. Like a mini version of Train simulator.
>How is most of the shit not working as intended such as missiles or FLIR not a problem?
Failure to mention it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
>How is the lack of content for anything that isn't from the late 70s/mid 80s not a problem?
Because to get it you'd have to compromise on accuracy. and lack of content period comes under "limited plane selection"

>>143634793

It's an older 1U Dell Poweredge server, no room for even a low profile video card. My thinking is that this box is sitting on a rack, plenty of RAM, ready to roll, and I wouldn't have to spend a penny. Are there plans for a dedicated server?

>>143634893

Yeah it'd be Fishbeds, Tigers, Helos and Attackers.

>>143635164

Oh and in addition to our little /29 subnet, we have like 10 dynamic IPs (with 1 year leases), so I can set this up completely off the company network.

>>143635148
>if there was some fucking user-made freeware out there
Leddit's Skyhawk and the Buccaneer coming soon.

>It creates a pricing problem where if you like multiple aircraft instead of having a boner for a single model to the exclusion of all else, you're gonna get keked on cost. Like a mini version of Train simulator.
Except DCS modules have actual effort put in it, unlike Train Simulator. Honestly I never saw paying for individual modules as a bad thing, especially because keysites have been a thing for years. I find having to pay for maps and the concept of ED willing to make you pay for fucking textures absolutely inexcusable though.

>Failure to mention it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Not mentioning what's arguably the biggest problem at the moment is kinda dumb. Also, lack of blast damage from bombs. Also some FMs still being inaccurate despite being labeled as "PFM".

>Because to get it you'd have to compromise on accuracy
What. How the fuck would adding WW2/KTO vehicles so that half of the plane selection isn't "just there" inaccurate?

>>143635563
>soon
[tm]
>DCS modules have actual effort put in it
When they work. When they aren't simplified FC3 tier.
>I find having to pay for maps and the concept of ED willing to make you pay for fucking textures absolutely inexcusable though.
I would be inclined to agree.
>Not mentioning what's arguably the biggest problem at the moment is kinda dumb
It goes without saying. There's no real contention, and thus no fun, in saying it.
>What. How the fuck would adding WW2/KTO vehicles so that half of the plane selection isn't "just there" inaccurate?
I had presumed you were getting at more modern aircraft, not older ones.
although WW2 doesn't even register to me since IL-2 presents itself as unambiguously preferable, unlike SF2 or BMS which have disadvantages.

>>143635827

>when they aren't simplified fc3 tier

when has an FC3-level module been released as payware ever, aside from FC3 itself

>>143635914
the fc 3 models are available separately, although you can just buy fc 3 itself

>>143635148
>if there was some fucking user-made freeware out there
All the user made freeware either falls through when they realise how hard making a module is or becomes payware when they realise how expensive making a module (that's worth a damn) is.

>>143636030

There's freeware out there, too, it's just not fantastically made and usually amounts to being a model swap of an Su-27/MiG-29

>>143635827
>When they work. When they aren't simplified FC3 tier.
As far as I know that happened literally once, being the fucking Hawk, and it seems that ED is not willing to let a fiasco like that happen again. Not to mention that they axed the third parties that were trying shit out 3d models converted from FSX (F-22, Superbug, F-15E).

>WW2 doesn't even register to me since IL-2 presents itself as unambiguously preferable
What do you mean?

>>143636030
Off the cuff, I'd blame DCS itself for that.
People manage to make relatively good freeware add ons for other sims*. Why not DCS?

*yes, most of it is still trash, but there are examples of good shit out there.

>>143636176
>What do you mean?
IL-2 is so superior to DCS for WW2 combat at this time that the option of using DCS for simulating anything before Korea didn't even occur to me.

>>143636309

I mean... not really?

>IL-2 1946
Ancient FMs that were of questionable consistency even at the time

>IL-2 CLOD
I guess, but isn't that battle-of-britain era shit only?

>IL-2 BOS/BOM
Everything behaves as if it's in a vacuum and the engine ratings on the german aircraft and the P-40 are fucking ridiculously strict

>>143636427
>as if it's in a vacuum
explain?

>>143636427
The aircraft selection is so much better that it isn't even funny. Even in CLOD.

A man cannot live on P-51 alone.

>>143636518

Every aircraft in BoS acts like it's flying in super goddamn thin air regardless of altitude- everything's floaty, there's no feeling of wind resistance- it basically feels like you're flying around an airless rock.

>>143636545

Yeah but
>battle of britain era
>means the latest 109 is an emil series

Gustav 109 is best 109, Friedrich can come too.

>>143636545

Not to mention the fact that DCS is the only sim where the community is actively fighting against any kind of visibility improvement solutions.

I swear, if they spun FC3 off into it's on product and made it incompatible with DCS it'd go a long way to improving the community, since the devs seem to listen to the F-15 scrubs above anyone else; despite the fact that they're the lease likely to actually buy a full module.

>>143636837
DCS has it's roots in FC/Lock On. They'll never abandon it.

>>143636837

How to improve DCS:

>either spin off FC3 as its own thing or just stop paying attention to people who primarily play in those aircraft
>develop more reasonably modern DCS-level fighters (80stek works, just shit that has modern-ish avionics and weapons) to fill the gaps in the DCS roster
>develop the mission editor and scripting engine more so that missions that aren't just airquake aren't so fucking unstable, and by god maybe even give us a dynamic campaign
>fix missiles and ground damage modelling

bam, DCS suddenly becomes GOAT

>>143637128
They could pull another babby cliffs 2 - give all of the FC3 clickable cockpits and PFMs, and force people to buy those.

>>143636689
>Gustav 109 is best 109
Marseille didn't like the Gustav one bit.

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>>143637359
Wait is it ogre?

>>143637316
wishlist:
netcode
dedi-server
better mission planner / briefing screen
misc fixes like missiles etc

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>>143637359

>>143637316

80's is where it's at. I'd love to see full-sim Fulcrum A, Flanker A, F-16A Block 25, etc. to go along with the Mirage, and the upcoming Tomcat and Harrier.

Chucking active radar missiles from 50 miles out just isn't fun.

>>143637359

>bans some of the most active REDFOR players because of some butthurt f-15 babbies
>BELENS
>good job BLUFOR, you managed to take the victory we handed you on a platter :)

>>143637417
>boring infrastructure shit
fuck that, we need more PLANES!

>>143636689
>Gustav 109 is best 109, Friedrich can come too.
I prefer the Friedrich. The G series is quite heavy.

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>>143637591
>not the ultimate form of the 109; the K series

>>143637671

See that's why I DON'T like the kurfurst- it's too good

I like the gustav mainly because it's kind of the most workhorsey of the Messers (plus that Afrikakorps swagger). Flying the kurfurst in DCS just feels like cheating, all you have to do to get out of trouble in most cases is just push the throttle forward and manage your energy well.

>>143637671
You know who else has that mindset? Spitfire niggers.

>>143637359

shitposting aside, is belensflag as a helo pilot any fun?

I wish to whirlybird

>>143637538
>give the totally not biased organizer a reason to ban you
>get banned
>vent your butthurt here instead of kneeling on rock salt/frozen peas like the retard that you are

Its finally over.

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ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>143638167
sounds like every 4chan poster ever

>>143637870
>war thunder mentatility

>>143638309
That kind of turbobutthurt existed since IL-2 1946.

>players that played exclusively balansed allied planes got so butthurt at 109s to the point that most of the shitty servers started to ban BnZ and energy fighting

>>143638493
You can go much further. One of the guides in the autism folder references it as "Dweebfire", and that's from Air Warriors 3.

>>143637976

pls respond

>missed 2 or 3 threads

Not gonna go throw thousands of pages of shitposting, did anything noteworthy happen?

>>143638906
I hear it's unrewarding when you fly for half an hour than get fugged

>when mid 30s manchildren try and get 'down with the kids'

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2792793&postcount=319

>>143638906
Is it useful? Yes, actually rather vital. Is it fun? Not really.

>>143638949
Some of da bois got banned from Balanse Flag for being utter retards. And I think that's pretty much it.

>>143639134
It was fun though

Goddamn the ED forums infuriate me. It's such a circlejerk and blue team talks shit but can't take it. Fucking manbabies

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>>143588669

> Not flying a tail dragger

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>>143639434
Don't be angry over a video game friend. Here have this nice picture of us strikers landing at Krymsk after the hard fight.

>>143638949
BMS Ops as usual

DCS Blue Flag drama where da bois and some blue guy acted like children over chat so Buddy Spike people banned them.

Blue won Blue Flag, everybody is salty and life goes on as normal since DCS is irrelevant after all.

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DCS Sukhoi T-4
Fucken when!?

>>143639434
desu when red won last time there was way more shitposting

>>143640454
>Buddy Spike people banned them.
Pretty sure that the brat on blue that stirred shit didn't get banned.

>>143641687
Nobody from blue who was talking shit got banned. Sim players can't handle the fucking bants

>>143639058

What do you even do?

Like I know you drop off ground troops and SAMs and shit, but are there ground troops and shit to strafe in an actual meaningful way or is it just flying around until you get spooged all over by an amraam?

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BMS ground textures are pretty good

t. nobody ever

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>>143642681

>cherry picking the worst spot of terrain across three theaters

>>143640454
Did blue flag even have a modicum of even teams this time around? Last time I tried it was back on 1.2 or whatever and the teams were stacked 3:1 in favor of the blues.

>>143642805
>worst spot is right beside [and in the case of the runway, part of] a fucking airport.
No excuse for that. If it was the middle of fucking nowhere, sure, but this is a place you take off and land at.

>>143643007
They specifically delayed it once because according to them blue didn't have enough squadrons.

>3:1
Try 10:1, and I'm not even memeing.

>>143642805
On a related note, 3d cities when? Even the old il-2 '46 has them, so I'm surprised by the lack of them in bms.

>>143643102
Ugh. I guess its nice to know that some things don't change.

I want to like the concept of blue flag but playing against blue stacks is like bashing your head into a wall.

>>143643243
Oh but things did change, for the worse.

>>143643304
What got worse?

>>143643405
IIRC they even ditched the CSAR concept, among other things.

>tfw banned from buddy spike server until i rat out who the gods plane shit poster in the ED fourms is.

no blue flag for me i guess.

>>143643480
Craig, as if he's even trying to hide it.

I know it's not a sim, but I play Elite: Dangerous occasionally and they have just released a 8GB update. Anyone here that can explain what new stuff they introduced and if it's still mind numbingly boring.

>>143643609
>>>/kspg/

>>143643609

Elite is a simulator, but what it simulates is wasted potential and lazy developers :^)

>>143643456
Well shit. CSAR sounds like it would have been pretty cool.

I still think they need to give the high-end missiles a finite amount that each side would have that slowly replenishes over time. Make it like 100-250 at the start of the campaign and have it trickle up. Force the players to use the worse missiles if they waste them.

>>143644049
Open Conflict has CSAR if you want to try it

Whenever a player ejects, their pilot is left at the site of ejection, you can ask for directions, beacon, coordinates etc, fly out and get him and return him to your home base

All while the air war is going on above and around you - it's pretty fun in the Huey

>>143644049
That'd be like putting a bandaid on a ruptured artery. They still don't have anything that prevents a side from occupying all of the slots. And even solving that wouldn't solve all of the problems. Bottom line is, BF is doomed to always be shit unless you're either a masochist or enjoy brainless stomping.

So ARE there any good DCS multiplayer missions that aren't just muh airquake?

I'm kind of hoping Chuck Owl ends up doing another airmobile. Even if it's contrived as fuck to make the Gazelle actually useful, it'll still be more fun than most of the shit in the server browser.

>>143634236
>create new store account
>transfer all keys to new store account
>sign right back up again and continue shit posting

>>143635164
>Are there plans for a dedicated server?
Yes, but this is ED we're talking about.

>>143645586
Shhhh

>>143638960
he's 16 you know.

Now that da boiz is pretty much banned from B(alanse)lue flag, are the odds going to be 15:1

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>>143646126

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HIND WHEN

Will the boys be man enough to apologize for their misdeeds?

>>143646358
>BRING BALANCE TO FIGHT
>BANNED
BLUEFLAG
L
U
E
F
L
A
G

>>143648230
They don't want an apology, they want an escape goat, they know this event was terrible and want to pin it on something or someone.

>>143623131
It's funny, but now it's the Eastern Front that feels done to death in WW2 games

>>143648427
I'm positive that the other theaters are more overdone than the eastern front (see: various CoDs, MoH). You probably feel that way because of Red Orchestra.

>>143648427
Nothing feels done to death in sims desu, there may be tonnes of WW2 games but only a handful of them have any real sim prestige.

>>143648295
Just say that you're sorry for ruining the round.

>>143649349
>we get banned
>red losses in hours
BRUH
>>143648295
They want to know who godsplane is and want to "talk" to him. Although Greg said that we would get unbanned if we ratted out who he is nothing has said that they would keep their word anyway.

>>143649504
>They want to know who godsplane is and want to "talk" to him. Although Greg said that we would get unbanned if we ratted out who he is nothing has said that they would keep their word anyway.
Serves you retards right for not explicitly stating that that retard has nothing to do with you I guess? You knew damn well who he is and what his goals were.

>>143649504
>They want to know who godsplane is and want to "talk" to him.
Say it was Raptor.

>>143649683
If only it was that easy.
I carefully explained that we`re not a squadron and anyone can have that tag,anyone can come onto TS and fly with us and most of the people do not even know each other.
So from now on its better if anyone who still wants to play in the server drops the tag so they dont pin that shit to you too

>>143650942
>I carefully explained that we`re not a squadron and anyone can have that tag,anyone can come onto TS and fly with us
Which leads exactly to the kind of shitdeal you're going through right now. It would've been better to just pose as a regular virtual squadron at least in the forums, but guess what. Again, serves you right.

>>143651102
>Serves you right
>plebbit is thata way.

>>143650942
What's this cuck shit? You should've completely denied having any connection to that guy.

>tfw sims have all ballooned above 10gb
>tfw stuck with shit internet

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Aviodev? More like Glacialdev amirite?

>>143651434
>DCS:W 2 open alpha will all but the campaign modules
>63GB on the disk
Wew boi.

Do i have to buy a Flight stick to truly enjoy flight sims?

>>143651387
I totally did that and it totally did not matter,although they had no real proofs about him connecting to daboiz other than his forum signature
Either way they used the complaints against us as sort of a way to get us to rat out who is godsplane and get him to stop shitting up the ED threads

>>143651747
They make the experience far more pleasurable.

Even a gamepad is a huge step up from keyboard-as-stick though.

>>143651747
Yes, it needn't be expensive though.

Cheap stick. (T16000M or similar)
V
Head tracking.
V
Throttle to go with your stick / upgrade to a HOTAS.
V
Pedals. (optional)

Tends to be the order people go in. A console controller is playable but for the same price you can buy a decent entry level stick so why bother?

>>143652132
>Head tracking
What's the econmy class of that? Track IR, or is there a cheaper solution?

>>143652362
Delan clip, built your own, track hat, etc. There are a number of cheap options that are very functional.

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>being a poorfag
>not owning warthog, trackir and crosswinds

Anyone know where to get the real F-16C dash 34? The BMS one is shit.

>>143653185
>owning a warthog
>not a cougar

>>143653793
>not owning Russian shady business mans black mamba.

>>143653185
I have a family to provide for it's simply not in my budget to buy expensive mancave equipment. Well it is, but my wife would kill me.

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>>143653906

>>143653185
>being this much of a good goy

Come on boys, apologize already. Red needs more manpower to survive.

>>143655867
PM Greg and tell him that you are godsplane
Eat the bullet for rest of us

>>143655960
Okay, let me fire up my tor browser.

>>143655960
Do this godsplane man

PM greg as godsplane and tell him you are godsplane.

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I am GODSPLANE

pic unrelated

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>>143657118
Keep trying

>>143657201
>Austrian Draken variant
ewwww

>Registration denied, this forum runs an active policy of not allowing spammers. Please contact us via the "Contact Us" page link if you believe this is in error
Yeah, fuck you too.

>>143654327
>not supporting israel
why not?

>>143657767
>they should give it [the F-5E] the better aim 9 like it should have and i understand not having the 120c in the interest of balance so they should at least give us the aim 7 and yes im aware the aircraft doesnt actually use the aim 7 but in the interest of the game and balance it would be the right thing to do.

These are the people you play DCS with.

>>143657547
Wat

Has anyone tried Air Missions: HIND? Is it worth its money? Is it a simcade or a proper sim?

>>143658765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKWuXN5PZQg

hardcore sim.

>>143658880
Fuck, should've googled it. That's AC and @rm@ tier of arcade.

Raw unedited footage of brave blue pilots doing final push against the 4 MiG-29A AIs of PAK 1.

Such bravery!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIfNd9AgE5s

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>>143661897

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>>143656381
no.

>>143662064
Don't be a dick, man.

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>>143662447
I'm not.

>>143662064
What did you just say to me? You just p***ed me off, and if you don't apologize to me or my datalinked mom within a day, I'll report you for abuse on the forum.

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>>143662823
well meme'd friendo

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>>143662970
t-thanks.

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>>143663070

>>143662064
>>143662775
>>143662823
>>143662970
>>143663070
>>143663173
this is why we can't have nice things

>>143663941
nice things are for normies.

Come on boys, sort this out. We need to win this new blue flag.

>>143664248
You know what to do

>>143664753
Join blue :^)

>>143664248
Make a new account fag and re-join.

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b-b-boys ?

>>143666554
boys are banned

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>>143666554
we are kill

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>>143666554

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> Air to Air missiles limitations: AIM-120C, R-27ER, R-27ET, R-77 Not available

>>143667628
>inb4 they get Aim-120B.

IS OF ABSOLUTE BALANSE

>>143667628
>>143667771
They actually don't get the aim120b either.

BMS ops WHEN

>>143669962
BLUE FLAG WHEN?

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>>143673684
we b& m8

>>143674975
->>143645586

>>143674975
The only reason why you're still banned is because you're a cuck.

Bois please unfuck yourselves and come back, the spamraam is dead and it looks like it might be fun again and winnable even if severely outnumbered

t. mig21bro

>>143675390
Besides, now that all the turboautists on Blue are restricted to a semi-fair fight, we should all be able to fucking humiliate them and waggle our dicks across their foreheads.

>>143675390
will be back just not as da bois anymore :(

>>143675390
>SA-3s and shitty strelas that you can't control are the only defense

nah fuck that noise

>>143675884
at least there won't be any fucking chaparrals, right?

>>143676047
>at least there won't be any fucking chaparrals, right?

There will be.

And fucking avengers that have about twice the range of strelas.

>>143676214
BALANCE FLAG IS IN FULL EFFECT

instead of /дa бoйз/ tag let use /cucked/

>>143676351
Try changing that to another language or something not so obvious

>>143676351
>posting your new tag here when you can be rest assured that they lurk this shithole
>giving them yet another reason for them to ban you

>>143676351
/cuck bees/

>>143676351
>not /Balanse/

>>143676538
>>143676543
>>143676569
>>143676776
/poгoнoceц/

/top kuk/

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>>143667908

how about /пoдшyчивaть/

>>143676810
I approve

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I think later when most of /дa бoйз/ are on we should decide on a new meme name to fly under for max kek.

>>143677421
Don't fucking post it here, don't fucking tell it to retards like Greg, don't fucking talk about it on the "public" TS channel.

>>143677421
>>143677703
Oh and don't fucking make the same mistakes that got you banned in first place. Talking shit in such situations where the organizers are blatantly biased and are looking for a scapegoat is beyond retarded. Saying that "anyone can wear your team's "tag" is fucking stupid. Talking shit in general is retarded too, but try to understand my point.

>>143678247
>Retards like greg
Gregs fine, captain jack is the ulti sperg around these parts T B H.

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>>143678247
>>143677703
kill urself