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Turboprop Edition

>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition
https://www.fanfiction.net/search.php?keywords=%22war+thunder%22&ready=1&type=story

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>vg chatroom:
Type " /join vg " into chatbox.
If prompted for a password, use "memes".

>Teamspeak address you can use
ts.gornahate.org

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>DIY Headtracking
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-your-own-ir-head-tracker/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710468074

>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1_cSnYKSKbU6Giql2bMDdFoXefeq6ENWuvjQbtquMs
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first for boredom-kun is qt and I wish he'd go out with benchbro
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Hey fuck you all,

ANIME!
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Real new thread here
>>143521324
>>143521324
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>>143521202
>slav shitters

ebin
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>everything is premium
>except tier V where you just have to goy up to get the vehicle in this lifetime

Honestly it's a genius business model but I'm done with gaijin's wild ride.
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Popping tanks in the Typhoon is top fun.
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>playing cromwell
>a wirebelfag spaa appears
>shoot it
>only driver dies
>he looks at me
>instant blows me up

great game
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>>143521789
where did he hit you to blow up in a crowell?
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>>143521789
>all of germany's tungsten reserves were for 20mms
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>>143521789
SPAA are literally the worst

That new slav spaa with the 20-something mm can do a lot of bullshit damage. Its ridiculous.
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>>143521610
Those are some funny looking shermans
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>>143521397
fuck off.
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>>143521862
right in my front through the turret. I'm really getting tired of this shit, everygame i play most people are driving SPAA now because you can just zoom around and flank and light up enemies.

Or in my case my armor is so shit apparently that this thing penetrated my front turret and it killed my crew
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>>143522109
Because they're clearly Panthers and Tigers?
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>>143522283
But Typhoons never fought Tigers or Panthers.
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>>143522283
>he doesn't get it
NEWFAGS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>143522283
The joke is Typhoons caused a few friendly fire accidents while tank busting during the Falaise Pocket. Plenty of Americans did too, but it's only funny when other countries do it.
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>>143522390
>>143522509

Sorry I dont get this dumb new meme you all are tying to impose

t. boredom
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>>143522660
>a few
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>>143522748
>let me namedrop to cover up my retardation
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>>143522171
they have 64mm of pen at a 90 degree angle. british weren't really big on slopes
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Okay but Typhoon friendly fire MIGHT have happened though I'm sure it WAS RARE. Like during the heat of battle.
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>>143523162
>7 August, a RAF Hawker Typhoon strafed a squad from 'F' Company/US 120th Infantry Regiment, near Hill 314, France, killing two men. Around noon on the same day, RAF Hawker Typhoon of the 2TAF was called in to assist the US 823rd Tank Destroyer Battalion in stopping an attack by the 2nd SS Panzer Division between Sourdeval and Mortain but instead fired its rockets at two US 3-inch guns near L'Abbaye Blanche, killing one man and wounding several others even after the yellow smoke (which was to identify friendlies) was put out. Two hours later, an RAF Typhoon shot up the Service Company of the 120th Infantry Regiment, US 30th Division, causing several casualties, including Major James Bynum who was killed near Mortain. The officer who replaced him was strafed by another Typhoon a few minutes later and seriously wounded. Around the same time, a Hawker Typhoon attacked the Cannon Company of 120th Infantry Regiment, US 30th Division, near Mortain, killing 15 men. An hour later, RAF Typhoons strafed 'B' Company/US 120th Infantry Regiment on Hill 285, killing a driver of a weapons carrier.
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I can't stand teeb T3
this is just suffering the comet and T4-T5 is not worth this shit

fucking can't kill soviets for shit they bounce adn no pen all day long

and all i get played against are soviets

fuck Gaijin
fuck RB
fuck Teeb
fuck this game
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>>143523461
The Eternal anglo strikes always
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>>143523162
brit pilots were literally drinking tea mid-fight and the steam from the water heater made them basically blind
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>>143523940
>what is churchill 7
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I don't think I can drive anything other than soviets at this point. The only nation that even competes is Germany and even then it's only in selective BR ranges.
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>>143524386
A tank that also can't pen soviets unless you flank, but guess what now you're in a churchill and slow as fuck.

Meanwhile soviets can easily pen you even frontal.

Teeb is only half decent when you get downtiered.
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>>143524445
soviets are the most balanced nation goy
-10 GE
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>>143523940
Play sim only, then you only fight germans!
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>>143524445
>drive claps, brits, krauts
>actually get kills
>never actually win

>drive slavs
>hard to get kills
>win 80% of the time

I don't know about you, but I find it's kidna hard to get kills in slav machines because all the other slavs are just cruise controlling all the way to a win.
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>>143524951
>>143524626
>>143524445
>naziboos on damage control trying to convince everyone German tanks aren't just as bad as Soviet ones

Every time
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Frozen Pass is quickly becoming one of my top 3 least favorite maps. It's like pure, refined spawncamping.
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>>143525227
The only damage control I see here is a slavboo who can't deal with the fact that his wins are owed to playing on easy mode
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>>143525227
>slavshit trying to deflect the blame

Germans only get good after Tiger in T3 and even then they are easy kills, Slavshits are good from T1.
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>>143525982
>slavshits are good from T1
t. nazishill who hasn't played any other nation
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>>143526069
t. slavshit who is blinded by his easy mode.
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>>143526069
But im a nazi apologist and i only play american planes
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Clappers > Teeb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> German >>>>> Soviets

remember goyim, soviets won WWII for you
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>me and enemy tank aim at each other
>fire at the same time
>he takes out my gunner and breach
>my shell disappears mid-flight
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>>143519948
>2.3 BR
>4.7 BR
literally impossible, unless event
Even if we are talking Arcade, you can't bring down BR more than one step, so lineup with Fw 190 can be 4.3 at lowest
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>>143526413
aw shit, I forgot first Fw 190 is 3.7
Still impossible outside Arcade, and even in Arcade rare as fuck.
Besides real cancer at this rank is Bf 109 F4
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>>143526263
Germans>Slavs>>>Americans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>italy (what the fuck are you doing)>britain
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>>143526263
>clappers top
>when their planes fly like bricks with engine strapped on
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who else grinding like mad in last few dev server hours?
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>>143526748
>>143526651
I'm sorry, I had my >>> the wrong direction all the > should be <'s.

For GF btw
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>>143526836
It's not like you keep the research.
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>>143526928
surely u jest
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>>143526891
britshit go back to sucking muslim dick
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>>143527081
I jest not. What kind of retard are you to think they'd let you get all that shit for free?
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>>143527546
shit
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downloading world of tanks as you read this post
you guys are too fucking mad about everything and i hate russians
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>>143527590
>you guys are too fucking mad about everything
Is this your first day on 4chan?
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>>143527546
so every thing i just researched is all for fucking naught?
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>>143527668
My problem is that /wtg/ is the /v/edditor kind of mad, not the 4chan kind of mad.
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>>143527683
Yes. It's the hype server, not the ultra-grind server.
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>>143527782
)))))) fucking slavs
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>>143527590
Oh boy then you'll love WoT, it's completely opposite to that!
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>>143526891
Low rank Burger planes are well ballanced, properly armed and still quite maneuverable but above 3.0 their planes start beign less agile than fucking IL-2. Currently working up to unlock P-51, it should get better, I hope, but late Tier 2 planes are plain awful.
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>>143527820
>mfw i play both games regularly
and enjoy neither
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>>143527806
Nigger don't tell me you were actually so clinically retarded that you thought Gaijin would just give out an x5 bonus for 12 hours for free.
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>>143527904
I've been supplementing WoT with WoWS recently. It's nice. Less suffering.
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>>143527921
I..I got my hopes up :(
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Gore pics?
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>>143527590
>I hate russians
welp you won't like WoT either because Wargaming is russian.
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>>143528741
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>>143528842
Oh, and just to rile up the naziboos, this happened because the sewers underneath the King Tiger collapsed under it's weight.
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>>143528842
this one isn't destroyed, it fell into sewer
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>>143529007
how does that "rile up the naziboos"
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>>143529224
They don't like it when you point out fundamental flaws of their supertanks e.g. being too heavy to drive down a main road.
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>>143529281
ok kid
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>>143529330
>t. naziboo
2ez gg
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>>143529113
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>>143529113
>one ATGM hit knocks off the turret
jesus christ, WT is dumbed down
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>>143529631
Don't even get anyone started about how HE should be working.
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>update 1.59
>four new vehicles and one updated model for britain.
>only one of the new vehicles is not a premium
>free vehicle is not a much needed tank
>its another worthless doesnt fit in the game meta heavy bomber with peashooters

kill me
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>>143529968
>teebs being this mad
eric
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>>143529968
is that really all thats being added to the patch? Just this fucking trash? 3 months for this little?
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>>143529783
that reminds me, today when I tried out the Sheridan I fired into the side of the KT turret. shrapnell all got absorbed by the side ammorack. 4.9kg of TNT equivalant was what I think the 152mm had.

It turned orange
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>>143530091
thats it as for britain as far as anyone knows, with the sneak peak page up and the dev server opened, yeah its really fucking sad. also we got the only premium ATGM too.
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>>143529631
This is how slav tanks get racked. In Western tank, even if rack gets hit, there's solid chance for you to GTFO before tank turns inferno, thanks to less potent, but more stable HE load, and better ammo placement.
But in cramped Soviet tanks, if propellant is lit up it will ignite HE almost instantly.
There's video of Saudi Abrams getting racked like it's T-72. This is exactly result of loading it with rounds as tightly as Soviets did.
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>>143530250
This was only really made a thing with the M1 Abrams, the blowout panels.

Unsure if the T-14 has similar compartments, but I'd think so considering the separate autoloading turret.
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>>143527882
Low BR anything is typically balanced. Honestly after 4.0 things just become a shit tornado.
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>>143529968
which one of the missile nigger tanks isn't premium?
the german one?
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>>143530174
Most people wont even fucking see this shit, 90% of the playerbase hasnt hit that level anyway I cant fucking believe it, let alone with the insane tank grind too.
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>>143530952
....All of them other than the British one? Have you even been paying attention to the ATGM tanks or do you just want something to complain about with them?
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>>143530952
the german american and russian trees get regulat ATGMS in the tech lines, britbongs will have to pay for theirs with gold.
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>>143531074
THATS FUCKING BULLSHIT
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>143531471
Dude, are you ok?
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>>143531558
No i think its bullshit that they literally have to hide the British tanks behind a paywall to protect the other faggots
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>>143531471
Gaijin will proooooobably reveal a main tree ATGM tank for the British. Probably.

Either that, or you guys get cucked.
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>>143531641
After they sold it to Sweden and Sweden modified it it stopped being a British tank. They shouldn't have it at all.
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>>143523461
Fucking Teebs I swear
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>>143532723
kek
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I'VE E-MAILED GAIJIN OVER THREE DOZEN TIMES ON FOUR DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS.

WHY WON'T THEY DELETE IT AS QUICKLY AS IT DELETES EVERYTHING ELSE?
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>>143532998
Because dirty sweaty greasy weeb money matters more than your opinions?
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>>143532998
Whats actually wrong with it? is it the apex turn fighter?
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>>143533108
>turn fighter
kek no
it's the ultimate BnZer
it turns like a fucking brick
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>>143533108
It's pretty zippy and has four 30mm spark cannons, but it's certainly not an ascender.
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>>143533216

NO IT DOESN'T YOU FUCKING RETARD IT IS A UFO IN EVERY RESPECT
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>>143533287
lmao you sound like a shitter.
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>>143533518

FUCK YOU

HAVE YOU EVER FLOWN AGAINST IT?

NO

I bet you're just a scumbag that clubs Griffon Spits, Bearcats, and early jets in it.

Everyone is laughing at you for unironically defending this broken plane.
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>>143533108
Burger bomber spam keeps getting annihilated by a plane specifically designed to deal with bombers. Nothing more to say about that.
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>>143533592
>HAVE YOU EVER FLOWN AGAINST IT?
Of course I fucking have. I've flown against them hundreds of times. They're fast, but that's it. They have low velocity, unreliable cannons and they can't turn worth shit. Did you get diddled by one in your stock P-80 or something?
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>>143533726
>They have low velocity, unreliable cannons
Uwot? The cannons are fucking great, and have almost 800m/s velocity
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>>143533782

920m/s with the only belts anyone ever uses.
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>>143533634
>keeps getting annihilated by a plane specifically designed to deal with bombers.
>designed

Well obviously its design failed because Japan lost the war.

>>143533634

Then how do they outturn my Spitfire Einstein? Your wings will LITERALLY rip off your fuselage if you try turning with them.
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>>143534085

meant second half for this schlong swallower

>>143533726
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>>143534085
>its design failed
You fucking what? It's design has less than an hour of total flight time ever.

>Then how do they outturn my Spitfire Einstein?
Because you're in a Griffon, not a Merlin, you clinical fucking shitsack.
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>>143534218

It doesn't matter what spitfire you're in. Your wings wills till rip if you try turning with a J7.
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>>143533634
>Burger bomber spam keeps getting annihilated by a plane specifically designed to deal with bombers. Nothing more to say about that.

Too bad it wouldn't have worked just like anything the Germans thought up.

In fact it would've been worse since it was made out of rice paper and bamboo.

They were called Flying Fortresses for a reason.
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>>143534515
>propaganda names
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>>143534767

>propaganda memes

Lol why do Germans bitch about Dresden?

Why were Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Tokyo destroyed?

Face the facts, American bombers were invincible.
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>>143534925

>/wtg/ please be impressed by my UFO
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>>143534834
>Dresden
>American bombers

RAF had more bombers
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>>143535014
quality over quantity :^)
american bombers : 10 tonnes of supplies lost due to bombing effort

raf bombers: completely crippled the luftwaffe and armored divisons
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>>143522283
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>>143534515
>the "They were called Flying Fortresses for a reason." Meme again

That's why American heavy bomber spam is winning every RB game right?
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>>143530332
actually reducing ammo load to as little as you can helps a lot. Unlike WT where it's just reduces chance for ammo to get hit, IRL it also reduces intensify of flames, giving crew precious seconds to get out.
webm related. Hit would obliberate entire tank if it was full, but Syrians leaned from Russians about limiting ammo load to bare minimum, which is completely opposite to their practice up to this point.
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>>143534515
>They were called Flying Fortresses for a reason.
Yeah, cuz the press was trying to give it a good name to sell war bonds and shit
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>>143535596
Fucking hell those guys walking on the road were slow to react. Milled about like a school of fucking fish.
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>>143535694
probably thought tank just fired, and no one looked around until they heard flames
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>>143535596
Ripperoni, driver
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>>143536049
>M60 gets hit flat on by an ATGM
>mofo just pops out like, "well, I just saw some shit"
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>>143535596
Arabs have nasty habit of shoving as many shells into tank as they can, mostly as way to deal with their sorry ass logistics.
Effects of shoving 60 rounds into tank with 40 rounds capacity can be... impressive.
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>>143536258
Well, he was probably already dead by the time he hit the ground.
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>>143536258
burns are given, but this one gives me "war is hell" vibe like nothing else
>moment you realise he's rolling, because he's so fucked up he can't tell he's not burning.
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>>143536638
Man I think the only tank I'd ever agree to get in is a T-14. Nice, comfy, extremely heavily armoured pod to sit in the middle of the hull and remote control everything.
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>>143536746
better with sound
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>battle of Britain map extended

Prepare yourself for navies and three way armed forces mixed battles
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>>143536857
Where did you get this from?
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>>143537065
http://warthunder.com/en/news/3739-development-sneak-peek-about-update-1-59-flaming-arrows-en/
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Jesus Christ on a bloody fish stick.
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>>143521510
>everything is premium or tier 5
>Hs-123 A-1, ASU-57, ASU-85, B-18A, Pz.III B, Surer Emil, Halifax, TU-4, N1K2 Ja
I see
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>>143522171
The Cromwell's turret ring is like 20 mm thick, even the 50 cal can perforate you frontally.
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>>143536767
I'd say Abrams
>1991
>M1A1 gets hit from behind by friendly M1A1
>DU shell penetrates side armor, hull rack, fuel tanks and gets burried in frontal armor.
>fuel gets splashed inside of tank, and ignited by buring shell
>other shells in rack don't go off, because they all have their own protective cylinder
>turret rack sits safely, separated from rest of tank with armored doors
>automatic fire extinguishers kick-in supressing flames with Argon
>crew recovers in seconds
>commander with leg full of shrapnes crawls through his hatch
>gunner and loader pull out driver through other hatch without issues
>after they get out, their uniforms start burning - they didn't before thanks to Argon. They strip themself naked and provide first aid to commander and driver
Only casualty on that day was a driver, who was killed by penetrating shell. In result of this accident, Army filled requiest for flame-proof uniforms for tankers.
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>>143537478
forgot the LVT
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>>143537714
Probably not better than the first ki-84.
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>>143537581
Oh yeah that sounds JUST FUCKING LOVELY MATE.
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>>143537820
tank that keeps you alive when all this shit happens is a good tank.
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>>143537581
>>143537820

Oh, and Argon can suffocate humans when in confined spaces.

Wonderful, that just sounds like an all round great experience.
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>>143536821
Well camera back then didn't have sound recorder
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>>143537872
I think you're missing the point of wanting to be in the T-14, is the fact that you're sitting in an armoured core in the centre of the hull of the tank, as protected as you possibly could be.
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>>143537875
And why would you stay in buring tank any longer than needed to get everyone out? Argon is there to reduce flames and thus, help you leave
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>>143535596
Looks like WT is realistic after all. Hit with HEAT, only driver is dead, rest of the crew is fine))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>143536638
Stop, drop and roll, good technique.
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>>143537971
>T-14 armor can't be defeated
uh okay
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>>143537971
Uh, if the T-14 got shot in the rear, I'm not sure you'd fare any better. Are you Russian? Why do you have such a hard-on for that tank?
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>>143537932
Any idea why Jericho Trumpets were removed in later Ju-87?
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>>143538331
A T-90 took a TOW straight to the turret and didn't even miss a beat in Syria.

I'm sticking with the Russians on this one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_K3VPWF_k

>that 5.3 BR
>that engine sound
>that acceleration
>700km/h max speed

tell me why this wont become the next super clubber machine bros?
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>>143538397
>Are you American? Why do you have such a hard-on for that tank?
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>>143538401
Enemies got used to it
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>>143538417
>that 5.3 BR
How many times am I going to have to say "placeholder" before this goddamn patch drops
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>>143536638
Holy shit
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>>143538507
Nice argument.
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>>143538401
They created a bunch of unnecessary drag. Also it's nice to give the other guys a "yo senpai, duck" warning.
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>>143538570
>How many times am I going to have to say "placeholder" before this goddamn patch drops

how many times have things been said to be placeholder yet gaijin releases things in a broken mess anyway?
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>>143538408
it was missing crew though, because they ran out of tank.
But Russians will still insist tank was a-okay
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>>143538610
About as good as yours friend.

>>143538630
Ok then I'll be sure the start grinding the Yak line then, that 1000km/h speed at 6.3 is gonna be killer!
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>>143538674
>Ok then I'll be sure the start grinding the Yak line then, that 1000km/h speed at 6.3 is gonna be killer!

Yak 30 br was derived from previous player performance of earlier yak jet aircraft comrade.
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>>143538663
The tank was A-OK though, that's why the Russians kept showing it off so much.

The crewman didn't jump out until after it hit.
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>>143538809
>tank takes hit
>seconds later crew jumps out and run away
>but tank was totally OK
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>>143538880
>tank doesn't explode
>crewman is alive enough to get out of the tank after the fact
>tank is still operational

Yeah that sounds pretty OK to me.
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>>143538401
They were pointless to keep as the siren fucked up the plane's flying characteristics. Bombs later also had whistles to make "the whistling" sound you hear when they drop. Psychological effect stayed the same and the plane was easier to fly without the siren. And unlike >>143538508 said, enemy didn't get used to it. Even in the game you shit your pants if you heard the bomb's whistle above you (before bombs were nerfed), but in real life it was all more terrifying. http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/2686/did-world-war-ii-era-bombs-actually-whistle
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>>143537932
http://webmshare.com/qD6JQ
custom made sounds ??
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>>143538935
recoverable, but nowhere near "didn't even miss a beat" as >>143538408 said.
Armor was defeated, and it was a mission kill.
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>>143538950
You can barely hear siren when stuka is diving on you.
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>>143539228
>Armor was defeated, and it was a mission kill.
uhhh

it set off the reactive armour. that's it.
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>>143539151
obviously fake sounds
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>>143539228
still, massive improvement over this
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>>143539295
I never even heard Stuka's siren when I wasn't flying it, but you can hear the bombs almost always, if they are dropped from a bomber
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>tank with +20 years of development to specifically survive a TOW survives a TOW hit
>slaves think this is impressive
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>>143539364
>that motherfucker that comes flying out of the tank and then running off

gets me everytime
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>>143539365
I mean you can't hear stuka siren when it's diving on your >tank.
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>>143539297
yeah, and crew escaped tank because ERA was ticked off?
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>>143539389
>tank with 20+ years of development to specifically defy Russian AT weaponry
>gets its driver killed with it's first experience against a semi-modern AT launcher
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so what makes this one different to the one we already have?
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>>143539417
look closely, he's behind tank at start of clip, probably doing some maintence.
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>>143539448
Crew escaped because "lol badly trained tankers"

Just like that M1 having it's blowout panels work perfectly, only for its Iraqi crew to immediately abandon it.


>>143539532
It's not new, it's just had it's model updated.
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>>143539532
nothing, it's to increase the number of vehicles to jets to 4, that way even though you need """"6"""" vehicles, you actually research 7.
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>>143539508

The only time anyone has died in a Challenger 2 is when shot by another Challenger 2.
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>>143539508
>killed
he lost 3 toes
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>>143539508
>driver wasn't killed
>still failing to deflect
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>>143539576
it's definitely not new, the one we already have in game is an A-2 model, the one pictured is an A-1
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>>143539638
>>143539624
>>143539623
Oh yeah that's right, that was with a silly ol IED.

The RPG-29 was against the Abrams. Not that that was anything new either
>By December 2006 more than 530 Abrams tanks had been shipped back to the U.S. for repair
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>>143539364
here's what I can gather from this
>tank fires
>starts ejecting gas
>somewhere there's a malfunction and the ammo starts cooking off
>guy gets thrown out and runs to safety
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>>143539669
>it's definitely new*

fix'd
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>>143539532
that one has 2 x 30 mm mk 108 cannons, otherwise its almost the exact same performance.
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>>143539749

>During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Challenger 2 tanks suffered no tank losses to enemy fire, although one was penetrated by an IED. This was, at the time, unprotected by Dorchester armour. The driver was injured. In one encounter within an urban area, a Challenger 2 came under attack from irregular forces with machine guns and rocket propelled grenades. The driver's sight was damaged and, while attempting to back away under the commander's directions, the other sights were damaged and the tank threw its tracks entering a ditch. It was hit directly by 14 rocket propelled grenades from close range and a MILAN anti-tank missile. The crew survived, remaining safe within the tank until it was recovered for repairs, the worst damage being to the sighting system. It was back in operation six hours later, after repairs had been done. One Challenger 2 operating near Basra survived being hit by 70 RPGs in another incident.

>In August 2006 south east of al-Amarah, southern Iraq, an RPG-29 capable of firing a tandem-charge penetrated the frontal lower underbelly armour of a Challenger 2 commanded by Captain Thomas Williams of The Queens's Royal Hussars. The tank, which had already been hit by 10-15 RPGs, small arms and sniper fire, was attempting to draw fire away from another callsign that had become stricken. Its driver, Trooper Sean Chance, lost part of his foot in the blast; two more of the crew were slightly injured. Chance was able to reverse the vehicle 1.5 mi (2.4 km) to the regimental aid post despite his injuries. The incident was not made public until May 2007; in response to accusations that crews had been told the tank was impervious to the insurgents weapons, the MoD said "We have never claimed that the Challenger 2 is impenetrable." Since then, the explosive reactive armour has been replaced with a Dorchester block and the steel underbelly lined with armour as part of the 'Streetfighter' upgrade as a direct response to this incident.

Muh feet.
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>>143539965
>first encounter with an anti-tank weapon that isn't from the 1960s
>penetrated instantly

Sounds like a pretty bad track record.
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>>143540043

MUH FEET
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>>143539819
It got hit.
>tank hit in rear with missile
>tank gun discharges because of missile impact (either from malfunction of gunner inadvertently firing)
>ammunition starts to catch fire
>one guy barely gets to safety
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>>143540110
Yeah I'm sure saying "Muh feet" over and over will change the fact that the tank was penetrated by an infantry weapon.
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>>143540140

>the bottom of the tank should be impenetrable
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>>143539508
I've always wondered, isn't that driver's hatch a huge weakspot?
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>>143540168
>literally the bit pointed towards the enemy right below the drivers feet
>"bottom"
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>>143540176
We'll only find out after the driver get's his head blown off by an RPG, and then they decide to stick a huge block of armour on top of it.
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>>143539819
>>143540128
he was not inside of tank.
at 00:01-00:02 you can see him behind rear of a tank doing something
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>>143540427
That's a piece of fabric or plastic floating in the wind. There's debris on the ground next to the tank and at the right edge of the frame being blown around.
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>unlock the Comet
>think the first match is gonna be suffering
>snipe a T-34 800m away
>crash into a T-34 that just phazes into existance and kill it
>disable a Tiger with 1 shot, destroy with 2nd shot
>get killed by a bomber

That was a fluke, this thing is a pain to research isn't it?
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>>143541780
sabot rounds are a hit an miss, you mostly have to rely on exploding fuel tanks or ammo, which can either kill first shot or never detonate despite the module turning black as hell, basically relying on dice rolls.
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>play tonks
>rhine advance
>get shot by an spaag trough 4 building ruins

no damage but he could see me and shoot

)))))
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RIP Lancaster.
RIP Stirling.
RIP Halifax.

RIP in pieces.
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>>143542332
>Prem
>ium

:^)
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I have become death. The destroyer of America.
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>>143529631
Have you seen how ATGMs perform?
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>>143541780
It is, but the Avenger is even worse, so good luck with that))))))))))))))))
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>>143542560
>dual 23 mm cannon pods everywhere

this thing is gonna be annoying than the b-29
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>>143542332
>implying it's gonna be any good
>implying it's not just going to be another copy pasted Do 217 FM with higher top speed
>implying it's not going to be a flying fuel tank like the 335
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>do 335 fan bois blown the fuck out by gaijin when they realize just how shit it is

best patch ever
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>>143539749
You realise this could be "Totally trashed, everyone killed" or "The headlights got asploded and needed some extensive rewiring", right? "Needs repair" covers a lot of ground.

And because I hate myself, ex-warpac and NATO tanks are both good and built under different design philosophies for different requirements
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>>143541780
Comet is wholly reliant on APDS. Get it, and it's a joy to play. The tanks at that tier that don't get APDS are pure suffering. Firefly and Avenger both need it, for example.
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>>143543295
I'd rather Gaijin fixed their DM so that regular AP could kill tanks like it's supposed to.
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>Flying very hard to use Tempest II
>Clapper spit tries to get behind me after a successful F8F kill
>rollover when he's at 1 click
>he tries to follow me despite already at 300 kts
>mfw wingrip

stop flying our own planes bad
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>>143544037
>britshit
ok kid
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>>143542332
What, there's the Stirling and Halifax in the game now? I didn't play for at least half a year
>>
GuP movie raws are out.
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>>143543295
>"Needs repair" covers a lot of ground.
>>143543949
>I'd rather Gaijin fixed their DM so that regular AP could kill tanks like it's supposed to.
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>>143544323
proofs?
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>>143544298
Stirlings were added last patch, Halifax is coming next patch
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>>143544448

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=815179
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do you think tankers had man boobs to provide drinks while on long missions?
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>>143542332
What He219 should that be? A-7?
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>>143544775
why would they need tits when they can drink semen from dicks
>>143544852
yep
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>>143544950
semen is too salty
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>>143544950
>they gave it 2 mk 103 with 100 rpg instead of 4 MG 151/20 with 300 rpg
I guess lawn mowing shitters will be pleased
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I wonder when he'll finish it.
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The Maus is overtiered
discuss
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>>143544950
Why is the Mk103 ammunition so low? It should be 300 rounds per gun. Same goes for the Mk108.
>tfw it well never get all the Rüstsätze
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>>143545595
no
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>>143545595
maus should be a 6.7 desu
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>>143545595
It's quite the dilemma since it would wreck everything bellow it but it's fighting future tanks
they should just remove it
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>>143545618
>tfw no K-4 modification to swap the 30mm MK for a 20mm
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>>143545595
>I want to club M36s
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>>143545595
no shit, it's armor is more worse than t-54
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>>143545838
requires the same ammount of effort to pen frontally as a kt(h) if not less, due to how large the cheeks are desu
you also get the choice of playing the rng game on the shot trap
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https://warthunder.com/en/news/3745-development-it-1-the-soviet-missile-tank-en/
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>>143544365
I misquoted
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>>143546216
Fuck man, I bet you can one-shot a bombing point with that ATGM
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who else /fair and balanced/ here?
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>you will never go tanking with qt boys and cuddle for warmth in the winter
feels bad lads
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>>143545901
you cant me more worse than something you dumbfuck
the word is worserer
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>>143546608
>ammorack is red
>ammorack is black
>doesnt explode
)))))))))))))))))
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>>143547031
>being bad
>not being good
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>>143547031
>it's not rng
le weakspot meme

>rng
le rng meme
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>>143547031
>once ammo rack is black, it not longer has chance to explode no matter how many more rounds you put in to it

:^)
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>>143546481

I want to fuck the Nyaruko.
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>>143545595
it never even existed fucking retarded naziboos
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>>143546481
All ATGMs they are adding act like HEAT-FS, with a ton of pen (plenty for Maus's side). They kinda forgot to mention it's probably the best ATGM getting added as unlike Sheridan, it actually has some armour and unlike RPZj-2/STRV, you can actually aim with the mouse in RB.
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>>143547142

Reminder the Tiger didn't actually exist, it was just Allied crews mistaking Pz IVs with skirts for a new tank.

All the existing examples are fakes which don't even look the same as each other.
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>>143546608
Everything is black means everything is fine ))))
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>>143547031
the black thing is a fueltank :^) didnt catch fire either. btw, the round that did that damage was a 128mm
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>get hit in one wing
>wing loses lift and plane becomes almost unflyable
>get hit in the other wing
>plane is 100% flyable now

quality flight and damage models
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>>143547659
>is balanse

)))))
>>
>>143547317
>implying that germany ever built a single war machine
WAKE UP SHEEPLE
>>
>>143547142
One maus was completed in something of a rush job for the final soviet push and may have fought in defence of Berlin. There were enough parts post-war to assemble a complete hull.

>>143547279
Yeah, ATGMs look like they're going to shake up high tiers in a pretty dramatic way. Keyboard aim isn't even that bad once you get the hang of not oversteering.

They're going to be ludicrous in AB, given you can just track targets with RMB and let the missile one-shot them. And the Strv 81 is 6.7, so look forward to getting dunked on in tigers.

I think the Sheridan will probably turn out the best of the ATGM tanks, actually; it's only BR 7, is fast and relatively low, and it has a main gun shot that'll also fuck things up, as well as SALCOS missiles for sniping people. RPZj-2 has no redeeming features as far as I can see.
>>
Strv-81 cuntfirmed
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>>143536049
>warthundermedkitinaction.webm
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>>143536638
It's a good thing the guy is probably in shock, landing on a piece of mangled bone sticking out of your legstump cant be pretty.
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>>143547829
also swingfire when
>>
has gaijin given the ok to recoilless rifles yet?
>>
>>143539749
You know, this was right after the challenger 2 was released. Before it has it's ERA and composite armour put on the bottom too

Now it has that
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>>143548253
We pretty much have them in the form of the various rocket tanks, smaller vehicles with AT rockets don't seem impossible, especially with armoured car tech in place, but there's no technical reason to not include them and they certainly existed.
>>
>>143547829
RPZj-2 has speed, but that's literally it. Some guy that checked the files said that hand guided ATGMs are so fucked since the input is messed up, it's either 0 or 100. The second you try to steer the thing, it turns as hard as it can, so you can't do slight corrections. They'll probably fix it before release somehow, but hand guiding will never be as accurate as semi automatic. And BRs might be change, so Sherry might get higher BR. It was supposed to be faster too, I think, since top speed is 50km/h right now (should be 70km/h)
>>
>>143547142
oke https://youtu.be/8PTFnl316ug
>>
>Tanks that have the grenade launchers modeled in but can't launch grenades
why even model them in then?
>>
>>143548538
>inb4 joystick in ground forces is better than mouseaim
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>>143548601
>posting a wargaming replica
fuck off naziboo. here is 100 gold for your efforts
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>>143548648
To block the barrel ))))))
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>>143548648
got to block that tigergun somehow :^)
>>
>>143548648
Smoke is coming soon, so it will have use then. It's the same reason why night equipment and radars are on models, even though I doubt we'll get a working night equipment anytime soon and everyone has radar anyway
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>>143539508

what you on about? Only 2 Challengers have ever been damaged in combat, once in blue on blue, once when an RPG hit its underbelly when it was cresting a hill. Nobody died on the second one though and it was able to drive back to base under it's own power.
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>>143548939
>Be a challenger 2 commander
>Leave your commanders hatch open
>Friendly challenger 2 shoots HESH at you
>it hits your open hatch
>HESH explodes inside the turret

What a shit way to die
>>
>>143539508
>A tank that cannot be frontally penetrated by anything in existence
>slavaboo tries to say this isn't impressive
>>
>>143548538
It's not that bad. You have to use taps to keep it under control, but you can hit with them pretty reliably once you get used to it.
>>
>>143548874
>it will have use then
you misunderstand how slav a slav can slav
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>>143539508
>posted from my T-90 that drives over a landmine and the turret ejects itself
>posted from my T-14 as it catches fire just by driving around
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>>143549708
fuck off teeb
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>>143549796
>posted as my T-72 is hit by a 80 year old AT rifle
>as me and all my crew get ejected with the turret as the ammo cooks off
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>>143539576

>Crew escaped because "lol badly trained tankers"
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>>143549070
Anglo Blue on Blue all day everyday
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>>143549886
I'm a naziboo retard
>>
>airspawns for everyone in RB
I'm not sure I'm gonna like this.
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>>143550180

>he doesn't know about slavs shooting lend-lease tanks in WWII
>>
>In Sangin Province, a female RAF Harrier pilot mistakenly strafed British troops missing the enemy by 200 metres during a firefight with the Taliban on 20 August 2006. This angered British Major James Loden of 3 PARA, who in a leaked email called the RAF, "Completely incompetent and utterly, utterly useless in protecting ground troops in Afghanistan".
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>play caernarvon RB
>kill two slav tanks
>finally get killed
>still didn't earn enough points to spawn in a second vehicle

why are britbong tonks so much harder to earn points for? i can get killed in my germon tonks without getting a kill and still respawn another tank.
>>
>>143550254

source
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>>143550182
>posted as my panther catches fire as it sits on a hill

>>143550180
There have been so many american blue-on-blue's on allies, that there is an entire wiki page for it
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>>143550254
All this does is put the initial engagement altitude a little higher.
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>>143550418
>panther
we were talking about modern tanks yeah? I'm a big fan of the Leopard II
>>
>>143550374
>Telling lies

The RAF doesn't allow female pilots pilots

Only Female pilot to serve in the last 20 years was a tornado pilot

but good try at deflecting
>>
>>143550398
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/315155-preliminary-update-notes-war-thunder-update-159/

>>143550502
They seperate interceptors and air defense fighters though. I'm wondering what planes will land in what category.
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>>143550387
>heavy tanks cost more points to spawn
>each kill is 150 points
>wonders why he hasnt earned enough points after using all is SP on a heavy at the start
teebs everyone
>>
>>143550606
This is going to be an incredibly soft spot for either players. At it's worst it's going to be that stupid Medium Tank/Heavy Tank discussion we've had here before.
>>
>>143550582
>deflecting

all I did was quoting a Wiki article, blame those nigs
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>>143550658
there is more to it than just kills, bouncing and deflecting rounds capping points etc, the fact is i can get less kills in a tiger II and still be able to spawn another tank while doing shitty in it.
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teeb genocide when?
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>>143549318

I'd frontally penetrate her, if you know what I mean.
>>
twitch /warthunder

stream showcasing Sturer Emil and Yak-30
>reminder it's the """""""""strongest gun in the gam""""""""""
>>
>>143551496
betcha it cant pierce a t34 standing on a hill
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>>143551458
no i dont
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>tfw
>>
Fucking cunt streamer isnt using its gun depression... just goes on top of the hill
>>
>airspawns
>medkits bringing back LMS
>medkits being a researchable module in the sorry state of module grind we are now

evry single update

two steps forward, five steps back
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>>143552119

>all those tanks I spaded have to be redone

Nope fuck this shit.
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so was all the suffering through the Caernarvon worth this very moment?
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So if they add medikits for all tanks it means all spaded tanks will become unspaded ??
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>>143552223

you fucked up
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>>143552254
russia wins again!
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>>143552254

)))))))))))))
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>>143551496
6.0Br for Emil
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>>143552254
>>
>>143552119

What steps forward are there this time?
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>>143552325
>you fucked up

w-why? ;_;
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>>143552214
>d
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooollllll the fuck up
i have spaded all my german tanks, am i going to lose that ???????????
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>>143552449
S H E R I D A N
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>>143552464
Why do people care so much about this? You're not getting the RP bonus again anyway.
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>>143548253
they would be great addition to game
deadly but extremely fragile vehicles. If they were made very cheap SP-wise, they could be used as all-or-nothing option when you lose tank and cannot afford spawning new one
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>>143552542
that's kind of what I hope they'd be, increase SPAA spawn costs to light tank levels, and let cars with recoilless guns take their place
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>>143552512
>heatfs pens the side of the tank
wow!

Americans everyone!
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>>143552664
I was trying to point out the ridiculous arc, but you can be impressed at whatever you like
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>yak30
>BR 8.0 confirmed
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>>143552834
I didn't get on the dev server but I won't be surprised in the slightest if its flight model is literally copypasted from the La-15. Their specs are almost identical anyway
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>>143552924
It doesn't accelerate as well in the 900kph area, but it doesn't suicide above 945kph. I'm not sure if it's better than the La-15.
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The Yak-30 actually looks pretty good compared to the MiG. Still no La-15 though.

>>143552924
It doesn't rip above 950 km/h.
>>
What are the new premiums that they crammed in this patch? The ones NOT mentioned in the Dev blogs, eg. the Uhu
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>>143553024
>it doesn't suicide above 945kph
That alone makes it better than the Lala

But if it can truly reach its maximum speed of 1000+ kph then it shouldn't be at 8.0
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>>143552635
>cheap class
>Humber Hornet
>BRDM-1 with 3M6 Shmel
>M113 with 106mm M40
>FV432 WOMBAT carrier
>bit of armor, but will die to anything bigger than 7.62mm

>dirt cheap class
>M38A1 with 106mm M40
>UAZ with SPG-9
>3/4 t Land Rover with WOMBAT
>die to literally everything
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>>143553386
no it doesn't
you don't _need_ to go above 945 to kill anything but MiG-15s, Hunters, and sabers
in my opinion being able to sit around ~940kph is more important, as you can outrun everything that isn't one of the aforementioned planes without having to dive
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>>143553386
Cause having an acceleration of 1 m/s at 999 kmh is so usable.
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>>143553517
>>143553386
I should also mention that the Yak-30 barely wants to accelerate above 900kph at all in level flight
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>>143553649
But if you dive and reach 1000 kph then level out, will it maintain 1000 kph?

Also does it roll and turn like the Lala?
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>>143553845
No, it loses speed
It's a bit worse at rolling than the La-15, I don't know about turning.
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>>143553942
>No, it loses speed
This is tested with joystick and trimmed so there is absolutely no sideslip right?
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>>143554090
>testing in conditions that nobody uses
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>>143554090
Nope, just mouseaim. How much sideslip could there realistically be?
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>>143554090
How does trimming affect top speed in level flight?

It's not like MEC for props where prop pitch and radiator settings can have an impact on drag and whatnot
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>>143553103
>http://warthunder.com/en/news/3739-development-sneak-peek-about-update-1-59-flaming-arrows-en/
He-219-A7 and T-34-747(r). KV-II 754(r) got its devblog already.
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>>143554193
"""""standard""""" which all fm is supposedly tested with

>>143554296
depends on how sheer dumb luck on the instructor, some are pretty bad, bombers are notably the worst offenders

>>143554338
it has to do with the way the aircraft and the oncoming "wind", having no sideslip means you're reducing drag to absolute minimum
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now that the dust has settled is teeb t5 still the best t5?
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>>143555538
I'm going to assume you're talking about tanks since no one sane would ever say Bong jets are the best.
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>>143555538

>bong tanks
>good
>especially after the next patch
>>
>yak 30 added
>use horten
>proceed to club it along with yak-17's
Wow! what a dilemma!
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>>143555768
>>143555538
chieftain still is best tank. ATGM are shit and easy kills with few ammo.
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>>143555945

Yak is closer to a La-15 then earlier Yak jets.

It's not going to be it getting clubbed in that matchup if either pilot is equal.

why is the F-80C still 8.0 when the horten isn't
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>>143556414
>why is the F-80C still 8.0 when the horten isn't

It is? Why the hell do my props fight it then?
>>
>report everyone who kills me for cheating
what are you doing to mask your own cheats /wtg/?
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>>143556574

you're fighting P-80As
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>>143556582
I don't cheat because i'm not a slav
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>>143556414
But the thing is, Most yak pilots are retards.

>9/10 times a yak 17 or 15 tries turning with me
>all of them die because I use my ufo powers to outturn them.
Also I sometimes see la-15 and I have yet to die to one because even they try turning with me and even if some dont I can either:
A: Outrun them (because mine is spaded)
B: If he zoom climbs I usually can keep up with him.

So if the yak-30 is anything like that then it's just another easy target for me to wipe out.
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>>143556614
Aren't the military power ratings for the F-80 and P-80 the same?
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>>143556661
Assuming the Yak-30/La-15 pilot is shit, yes
can you screenshot your stats?
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>streets of berlin event
time to grind my JT i guess
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>>143556720
The F-80C has much better acceleration and energy retention.
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>>143556720

F-80C has about 1600 pounds more thrust and WEP
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>better acceleration and energy retention

guys these things are the exact same thing
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>>143556414
>why is the F-80C still 8.0 when the horten isn't
Because naziboos whine louder than amerifats.
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>>143556720
No, retard.
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>>143556754
Cannot currently as I am on mobile but I can in a few hours.
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>>143556763

DELETE THIS
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>>143556971
literally this
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>>143557010
alright
I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious about what a good player can achieve with the Ho229
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>>143557098
Well this may not be classified as good but I sniped a b29 from 1.2km while stalling a few days ago. One of the more interesting kills I've had.
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>>143556948
So without water injection, the F-80C produces more thrust than the P-80A
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>>143557098
Aside from memeing over everything by turning, it can singlehandedly win jet battles by destroying target convoys in mere seconds.

Anyone who complains about the Ho 229 or what it fights or thinks it was unfair at 8.0 needs their opinions sent straight to the trash, it's beyond a joke.
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NIGGA FIGHT!

https://warthunder.com/en/news/3744-special-tank-duels-tiger-ii-vs-is-2-en/

https://warthunder.com/en/news/3744-special-tank-duels-tiger-ii-vs-is-2-en/

https://warthunder.com/en/news/3744-special-tank-duels-tiger-ii-vs-is-2-en/
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>>143556854
>>143556948
>>143557000
Three kinds of people.
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>>143557370
>tfw i dont own a t4 tank and cant take part in this
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>>143556467
>dark reddit

lel
>>
How are you supposed to deal with the Tu-4? Especially Japan?

A fucking huge payload and 20mms everywhere, you can't approach it from anywhere. Apparently it has a 12,000kg payload, double its real life payload of 6,000kg. Introduced in 1949 but will most likely get a final BR of about 6.3.

Bravo
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>>143557370

>Of course everyone is lining up for only Germany, because naziboos

Lets see how this will take.
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>>143556971
Perhaps if amerifats whined more they would have gotten shit they mass produced by now, but here we are with a new Yak-30 while all you got is Bolo for planes. Lancer is there too, but it's ok, that can wait until 1.61.
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>>143557345
>it can singlehandedly win jet battles by destroying target convoys in mere seconds.
Not anymore it can, but you can try finding a new argument that isn't that or "but it can turnfight me, what should I do??????" :^)

As for your opinion on the matter, it's irrelevant, it's gonna stay at 7.0 and there's nothing you can do about it
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heh, the russian website has a different event picture than the english one.

as expected of marketeer )))
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>>143544298
If you don't play do you just shit post in here?
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>>143559029

I don't care that it's 7.0

I care that the Meteor Mk 3 and F-80C are still 8.0 and still have to fight MiG-17s
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>>143559591
Well, with the addition of Yak-30D, you can now fight that instead.
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>>143559591
>Gaijin will never introduce BR 7.7 for planes again
>>
>ATGM
>290m/sec travel speed
>15-20 sec reload
>LEO
>HEATFS
>8 sec reload


I have feeling this ain't gona end well for the prembabies.
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>>143559835
>chieftain
>6.9 second reload
>APDS

I agree. the ATGM babies tears will be great
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>>143559835
3 out of 4 ATGMs coming are non-premium and teebs are irrelevant, so it should be fine
>>
Niemand hat die Absicht, Lenkraketen hinzufügen!
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>>143560058
you think?
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>Tiger 2 vs IS-2 Event
>can't spawn in my tiger 2
>go back to hangar
>get a free 17 minute crew lock, because the game didn't let me spawn

I fucking see. I really like the part where I get punished for wanting to play the game
>>
>how to accelerate at fastest possible rate

push mouse slowly so the G meter reads 0

subscribe for more :^)
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>>143560332
are you actually this retarded?
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>>143560519
>I'm retarded for wanting to use my tiger 2 in the tiger 2 event

Yes, I must be retarded
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>>143560605
>required vehicles
the ones you can spawn in from the start
>allowed vehicles
the ones you have to get more SP for in the match
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>>143560192
I know, RPZj-2 may be shit with the hand guiding, but it can hide behind a hill completely. IT-1 will also only show you a bit of it's low turret. Sherry is fast (not as fast as it was irl, but may get fixed) and if properly used, it should be good too. It may be tricky, but ATGMs should be good, especially since they'll pen every tank there is. And with IT-1/Sherry's semi automatic guidance, all the guy needs to do is keep his mouse on you. If you're hull down showing only a bit of yourself, they can probably hit you more accurately than with a HEAT-FS on the first hit, since they don't need to do corrections at longer ranges. They'll be fine, don't worry
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>>143557370

>Doktor_Junkers Just now

>I would like to suggest making these German tanker images as historically accurate as possible. The grey Panzer tunic with black collar tabs and pips instead of the real (not in any way nazi-related) skulls make this look dangerously close to Waffen-SS tankers, something Gaijin surely likes to avoid.
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>>143560332
Have you considered spawning in your jagdpanther?
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>>143561084
>>143560817
I just got 4 killed then died

I had 3000 score, and still couldn't spawn
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>>143559029
>Not anymore it can

Did they give it a new realistic update and remove the guns?
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>>143561298

they made the HVAP suck dick
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>>143561223
there is a limited amount of TigerIIs, Jagdtigers and IS2/44s. dunno how many out of my head. since you are whining so much, i am assuming it is you sir fappington?
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>>143561067

He's not wrong you know
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>>143561449
I'll test it out later since I had no idea they did anything to the HVAP, but I doubt they're now unable to easily kill mediums and heavies.
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>>143561532
>event where you get points for kills in KT/IS-2
>limited number of KTs/IS-2s.
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>>143561298
No, they decreased the incendiary effect of HVAP, decreased its pen and make the guns inaccurate as fuck (before touching the ammo) and also fucked up its energy retention. Even an Ai medium tank in Air RB now takes multiple hits to kill and it you won't be killing nearly as much shit in GF RB. All of that happened more than a month ago, yet somehow people are still whining, just because they are stupid enough to turnfight it every time. You can still do good in it, so it's fine as it is now, but people's stupidity still makes your life whole lot easier.
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>>143561449
previously it was 1 round to kill medium/heavies
pls don't tell me you think that was fair
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>>143561532
>want to play a tiger 2 in the tiger 2 event
>I'm complaining that i can't use a tiger 2 in the tiger 2 event
>this is whining

I assume, you are a gaijin employee
>>
>>143561910

of course I don't

but by comparison it sucks dick
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>>143561532
ok crabeking autist
>>
>>143561947
Click on the arrow in the upper right corner of the map in the spawn menu, it will show you which vehicles are limited. JT is limited as far as I can see, Tigers are probably too. If you want your kills, get kills in JP and look at the amount of points you have (I think it shows it in the game if you press M) and j out the second you have enough to get into a tiger, otherwise you'll take forever.
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>>143558205
>How are you supposed to deal with the Tu-4?
FUCK TU-4
>>
>not playing simu in the event
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>posted from BR 3.0
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gaijin HQ nuked when??????? https://u.pomf.is/gwlndv.webm
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>>143562390
That's Baghdad, right?
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>>143562364
Yeah, but Meteor probably wouldn't have missed either.
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>>143562515
Took him out after pulling 12G and getting right on him again. Controls do get kind of wobbly over 600km/h.
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>>143562364
What do you expect? It's called having a lower wing loading.
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>>143562459
Gaza
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>its a triahx, aka sir fappington, spergs out episode
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>>143562364
And F4 short wing or an F8 would survive it.
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>>143562708
(you)
>>
i love spawn camping gamemode
im glad theres no good tank game
>>
>>143562459
https://u.pomf.is/nspwlh.webm
>>
Folt mikor?
>>
BRs released

USA
T29 - BR 6.7
M551 “Sheridan’’ - BR 8.0
M48A1 - BR 7.7
LVT(A)(1) (reserve)
B-29 (updated model)
B-18 - BR 2.0
P-61 (cockpits added)

USSR
IT-1 - BR 8.0
ASU-57 - BR 4.7
ASU-85 - BR 6.7
KV-2 ZiS-6 - BR 5.3
IS-3 (updated model)
Yak-30 - BR 8.0
Tu-4 - BR 6.3

Germany
Raketenjagdpanzer-2 - BR 8.0 AB, 7.7 RB
“Sturer Emil” - BR 6.0
Pz.Kpfw.III Ausf. B (reserve)
KV-II 754® - BR 4.3
T-34-747® - BR 4.0
Hs 123 - BR 1.3
He 162-A1 - BR 6.7
He 162-A2 (updated model)
He 219-A7 - BR 4.3
Bf 109-B1 (cockpit added)

Britain
Cromwell Mk.V RP3 - BR 3.3
Strv 81 - BR 6.7
Halifax Mk.IIIa - BR 4.0
Wyvern S.4 - BR 5.0
Spitfire F. Mk. IX (updated model)

Japan
N1K1Ja - BR 5.0
Ki-61-2 - BR 4.7
N1K2 (updated models)
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>>143563226
>sheridan at 8.0
disappointing, but kind of expected
>>
Is the Moscow map even in rotation? I've never seen that map ingame after flying a couple matches in it in a dev server months ago.
>>
>>143563226
>Tu-4

I wonder what the description will be regarding the Tu-4, not like they'll add one till six months after.
>>
>He 219 has MK 103s and attacker BR
God dammit
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>>143563501
completely original soviet design)))
is of classic soviet style and quality)))
nothing to do with capitalist propaganda machines)))
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>>143563226
source?
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>>143563226
>Tu-4
>6.3
>>
>uptiered
>face americans and brits
>downtiered
>face nazis
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>>143564383
We don't want slav babbys complaining about getting raped by jets all day now do we?))
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>>143564383
Did you expect them to put a prop at 6.7? A russian prop?
>>
I don't get this special event thing. I check under achievements but cannot see anything about any so-called progress anywhere. Am i retarded, /wtg/?
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>>143564027
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/315155-preliminary-update-notes-war-thunder-update-159/
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>>143564548
Never mind, I had to restart WT
>>
>>143563226
>Hs 123 - BR 1.3
pretty much confirms that it will never ever have MG FF
>>
>“Three-colour”, “Desert three-colour”, “Desert two-colour” and “Winter two-colour” camouflages for all Soviet ground vehicles have been added
Remember all those battles slav tanks fought in deserts?
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>>143563547
Do you think it could be a good ground attacker like the duck?
>>
>>143564806

1948 onwards has been an almost constant stream of desert wars involving Soviet materiel.

CAMO IS FOR WWII AS WELL BECAUSE BALANS )))
EARLY GERMANS ALWAYS LIGHT GREY THO HISTORICAL )))
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>>143564806
>tfw the days of p2w are numbered
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>>143564806
my mom's penis looks a lot like mine, just a little bigger
>>
Ded event. All the slavs have fled.
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>volokolamsk
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>>143566482
Depends a little bit on what mode it is. Domination is utter ass, but conquest and battle are ok.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pTTvn2NATg

M3
3
>>
>allied team has 1 (one) BR 9.0 plane and it's a Venom, the rest are Vampires, Meteor F3s and 1 long wing F4
>German team 2 (two) 8.0 planes, and also four MiG-15s and three CL-13s

The fact that the devs can look at bullshit like this and go "yep, that's fair, it's all good and balanced, our matchmaking is flawless" is fascinating
>>
Holy shit frozen pass is a bad map.
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Anons, post your hopeful BR and balance changes for 1.59.

Japan

J2M2 (3.3 ->4.0),
Ki 43 (4.0 ->4.7),
Ki 84 Ko (4.3 ->5.0)
Ki 61 Hei (4.7 -> 4.3)
Ki 61 Tei (4.3 -> Trash can)
A6M5 (5.0 -> 4.3)
A6M2 (3.3 -> 2.7)
A7M2 (4.0 -> 4.3)
Both later Ki 84s (6.0/6.3 ->5.7)

Fix repair cost of 84 Ko as balance to the uptiering (and J2M3 repair cost while we're at it). Not so sure about A6M5 being 4.3 since its a decent plane, maybe 4.7 but its definitely overtiered anyways. Its low ammo count, mediocre climbing, carrier spawn and the competition it faces means its drastically overtiered. Gets uptiered like every match too.

What about your changes lads
>>
>>143568196
BR spread up to 10.0 FFS
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>>143568196
things that will never happen:

Meteor F3 back to 7.0
F9F-2 at 8.0
All Sabres, MiG-15/17, Hunter and Venom at 9.7
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>>143563226
of course the yak30 is at 8.0
yet sea venom; venom; f9f-2; and more are at 9.0
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>>143568196
J2M4 should at most be 4.6, possibly 4.3
having it .3 below the spit xiv which out-everythings it at every altitude is retarded, I just want to do muh high-altitude fighting in something that isn't a P-47
>>
>>143568196
T-54 1947 (7.3 > 7.0)
T-34-85 (5.3 > 4.7)
IS-3 (7.3 > 6.7)
T-44 (6.3 > 5.7)
The pandemic of russophobia has forced the developers to artificially increase the difficulty for Russian tanks to appease western audiences.
>>
@143568807
(you)
>>
>>143568628
To be fair the Spitfires are just bullshit regardless. They out everything everything. They make balancing within a 1.0 spread of them a nightmare because anything that can't deal with them is going to get shit on without recourse by a Spit pilot with half a brain.

Ideally they should make these things not be able to be downtiered.
>>
>>143552512
>that angle of entry
>>
>haven't played tanks for months
>hop into a game
>get 10 kills
>team loses
Fucking hell
>>
>>143568807

(You)
>>
>>143569130
The spit is just the most extreme example, the J2M4 really is in a bad spot
It's worse than the J2M3 at everything except for flying at heights of over 6000 meters
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>>143567270
>Fly out in Hellcat
>friendlies have P-38, P-400 and upgraded Wildcats
>enemy team are mostly Bf 109 F-4 and Fw 190, rest beign Bf 109 E-3 and E-4
duh, gg for us I guess...
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>>143568196
>the upgraded version of the plane that was denied production for being only as good as its predecessor is still a lower BR than the predecessor
Fuck off.

The later Ki-84s are about as good as bearcats, so unless you're going to drop those to 5.7 as well they should stay where they are.
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>>143569573

>Wildcats
>Not rapey
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>He 219

It's time.
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>>143569740
The F4F-3s are good, but they're still objectively worse than Bf 109 F-4s.
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>>143569556
>j2m3 is 5.7
oh man, when did this happen
maybe 5.0 is balanced and I should just stop whining. Spits will always be more strong.
>>
>>143569473
>>143568874
>being this obvious
fucking ukrainian shitposters
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>>143569573
>F-4
>facing P-400
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>>143569980
He's probably playing memecade
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>>143561537
ok doktor junkers
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>>143569605
Putting the later 84s at 5.7 means they don't fight 7.0 jets. N1K2s and J7W1s can handle the P80 spam , but the 84s just can't. Putting them in 5.7 gives them a similar BR but they don't have to be fighting jets constantly. If you play at that BR its almost all you face, the 84s get uptiered every match due to the amount of American pilots flying P80s and the low Japanese playerbase that's why I want their rating lowered. Also the latest 84 is kinda bad because the 30mms and the 20mms have different velocities and you can't fire them seperately, leading to a lower ammo count than just the 20s. No reason it should be higher than the otsu.
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>>143570125
Arcade is crazy
>Jet battle
>some teeb spawn in 3.7 Spitfire
>laughingMiGs.jpg
>he survives entire battle in it
>not only that, but also scores 4 kills
>>
>P 51s spawn at high altitudes now due to Gaijin furthering arcading RB with only (VARYING ALTITUDE) airspawns

Burger pilots get their brs lowered due to their inability to play and now Gaijin does half the work for them. America is the most handheld nation, confirmed.

Also, you can now spawn under a plane with a superior climb rate because why not.
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>>143571002
>P-51
>airspawn

What? In RB?
>>
>>143570712
Iron Eagle III event when?
>>
>>143571002
>America is the most handheld nation
I'll believe that when naval planes aren't forced to do carrier takeoffs on maps where army planes get air starts and when they get air starts on New Guinea.
>>
>>143571002
I read that the P-51 was classified as an interceptor on the dev server.
>>
>>143571135
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/306480-air-defense-aircraft-and-air-spawn/

There's probably more out there.

>
For all missions in the game mode [Operation], new air respawn points have been added. Respawn points for fighters are further from the mission objectives than the airfield. Respawn points for bombers and attackers are closer. Altitude for respawn points: Attackers: 1000 m Bombers: 3000 m Long-range bombers: 4000 m Interceptors: 2000 m Air defence fighters: 3000 m

Basically depending on the role your plane has, you get an airspawn of differing altitude. No more take offs in RB everyone spawns in the air.

Also after 10 minutes there will be soft targets you can strafe in a fighter that lower tickets.
>All “Operation” missions now have light units appearing at the 10th minute. These units can be destroyed with MG fire which causes your opponent to lose points. The number of units is enough to remove some of the victory score points but not all of them.
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>>143571635
sounds kind of ok, it will be difficult to balance spawn altitudes though.
I bet there's some glaring hole in it all that I'm missing
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>>143566482
What? It's one of the best maps in the game (except for the domination mode)
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>>143571002
>I like the climbing meta
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>>143571635
>Strategic bombers will start at a higher altitude (say 6000 metres)

Ah yes, if there's one thing that's going to fix this game, it's making it easier for bombershitters to climb to the moon and wait for ticket bleed

Although it'll be funny to see B-17s diving to the bases from 6km and ripping their wings
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>>143572059
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>>143572208
I bet they still managed to snipe three or four fighters after ripping
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>>143571635
heavy fighters should spawn with bombers, since escorting them is their primarly role.
Should also make them overall less useless
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>>143571635
I actually think this might work

Look at Norway. Everyone gets an airspawn and when you don't get too many retards who go after AI planes, you get good high altitude fights.
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>ywn never roll into battle with Lohere and blow up the gaijin HQ
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>>143571635
next step: make them all spawn within 5km of each other
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>All this forced hype for literally who's and whats

You can tell even Phly is like "whatever" to this shill video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHpcs6mOILI
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>>143572440
>the F7F was primarily an escort fighter
>the 50mm Me 410 was primarily an escort fighter
>Schräge Musik are actually for escort
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>>143572639
They already did that when they added arcade maps to RB rotation. It was truly awful, especially in jets.
>spawn
>not even 30 seconds later you're already being engaged
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>>143572774
>that music
>that hype voice and screaming

I can't stand this guy
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>>143572891
yeah they did that in some of the RB events for the MBR too, it was dogshit
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>>143573067
So just hide and report the post for advertising.
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>>143572774
>Gaijin takes down one of Phly's videos for promoting cheating
>Magz gets BTFO over it, "quits War Thunder forever"
>Phly keeps making WT videos

I wonder if Magz is capable of remorse.
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>>143572891
>Pelileu

Why

Meanwhile they blacklist half of their RB maps from being played more than 5% of the time.
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>>143572828
>cherrypicking
job of heavy fighter was primarly to hunt bombers with their superior armanent and speed as well as escort bombers with their superior range.
Concept became somewhat redundant because bombers didn't outspeed single-engine fighters as was predicted in 30's, and with autocannons getting common, only thing that was left was superior range and load.
This is basically how heavy fighters mostly evolved into fighter-bombers and night fighters.
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>>143573508
Rip in dip, Malta.
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When is the next batch of premium discounts? I need the Yak 3 VK to club without mercy.
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>>143573773
The next near guaranteed one won't be until October. There will probably be smaller sales, but for specific vehicles or nations, not all across the board.
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>>143573701
I actually got Malta today and it wasn't a mixed nations game it was unbalanced jet bullshit
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The Tu-4 is going to be the most cancerous plane in the history of WT so far. Forget about B-17spam, forget about IL-28, the fucking Tu-4 will outcancer everything

I don't want to be here when Helmet gets his hands on it and spams 200 screenshots all day every day of himself being cancerous in it
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>killing the loader magically makes the shell disappear from the breech
Why the fuck is this still not fixed?
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>>143574495
provide 5 proofs it didn't happen in real combat
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>>143574495
Because it's realistic. Were you a loader IRL back in WW2? No? That's what I thought.
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WHEN?
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>>143574748

this game is anything but realistic.

in real life a single shell would disable a tank. in WT your shit goes yellow and you carry on like nothing happened.
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>fire 122mm shell into turret side of tiger 1
>crew inside goes spaghetti
>gunner swims through the guts of the gunner loader and commander
>takes control of the turret
>meanwhile I still have 10 seconds left to reload
>aims and takes the shot killing me
amazing
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Why do stock vehicles blow chunks to bad.
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>>143574748

Thank you for your service
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>>143575042
So you'll spend GE on upgrades.
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>>143574972
Did you fire from a SU-122?
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>>143574905
Hello newfriend, I see you're not familiar with /wtg/ memes

>>143575042
Because some people are willing to give Gaijew money for upgrades, and Gaijew will never not do something that makes them money

They even tried to implement a "pay eagles to skip crew lock" feature several patches ago
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>>143575149
is2
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>>143575259
>They even tried to implement a "pay eagles to skip crew lock" feature several patches ago
What?
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>>143575334
It was only there for a very short time and got quickly patched out, and they've never mentioned it again
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>>143576291
So in other words it didn't happen
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>>143576547
It didn't, but they certainly did consider doing it.
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>>143575271
Git gud
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>get thrown into a match already well underway with your team being in a shitty position
Fug.
>>
Remember back when whenever someone posted a picture of a tank someone would post
>tanks
But now this thread is 80% tanks and 20% (if not less) planes. Kind of sad.

At least the namedropping stopped though.
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>>143576943
Disable join in progress ya dingus.
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>>143577006
...oh. Good tip, anon, I didn't know that was an option.
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>do335 is fine
>i tried it in test drive

when will slavs stop shitposting
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>Tu-4
>6.3 BR
This thing will be pure cancer.
I'm not gonna play tier 4 germans for a month.
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>>143577220
It's good for ground pounding and kinda okay against bombers as long as you line up perfectly on them and they don't turn or shoot back at you
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>>143555945
>Yak-23 is added
>it outturns and outruns you
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>>143558205
>how are you supposed to deal with the Tu-4
>especially japan
Fucktard weeb
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>>143578274
Ta152C is better for tank RB
haven't tested it after the mk103 nerf tho
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G R A N D S C E N A R I O S
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>>143578612
Never flown the ta but all the naziboos in the ts say it's shit desu.
The bombs really make the do work though.
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>>143568807
>T-54 1947 wouldn't be much different at 7.0 because it can already only be killed by those who flank it or shoot it's shot trap
>T-34-85 would one shot everything at 4.7
>IS-3 probably does need to be at most 7.0 because of the nerf
>T-44 is too speedy and bounces too much to be lowered to 5.7
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>>143572208
>not starting at the airbase
ebin
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>>143578827
I have had a lot of fun in the ta152
WEP 24/7 without engine going to shit just red temperatures
takeoff flaps stay up to ~380kph
somewhat maneuverable but more than the do335
and 2 more 20mm than the dornier I think
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>>143579262
red temperatures is the engine going to shit, you've just never survived long enough
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>Be pzIIIm
>KV-2 like .5 km away
>tries sniping me with its FUCKHUEG boolet
>bob and weave
>get parallel to it at point blank
>kill turret ring, engine, and then all crew in turret
>the whole time this huge derpy fuck is acting as a meat shield between me and his team
>"Erika" is on loop the whole time
German tanks are fun af
>>
Wait, we're getting a new He-162? Does it needed to be grinded or is it in a folder with the old He-162?
>>
>>143568196
N1K2 to 5.7
>>
somebody spilled the beans and now the fart sasquatch is angry
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>>143580074
>it's unfair for my WWII fighter to face WWII jets
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>>143573931
I guess I'll shill out the 6090 GE. How much does it club?
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>>143580404
>F-84
>WW2 jet
Okay burgermaster.
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>>143580584
If you're having trouble with thunderjets then your N1K must be stock.
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>>143572616
soon továris
soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgZ7gMze7A
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>>143579663
If it's not stacked up I hope they put it before the A-2 since I'm currently researching that.
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>>143574192
You may not want to be there, but the tears he brought were priceless
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>>143579581
Damn straight. They feel so rewarding for straight up good play.
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CONFIRMED

https://my.mixtape.moe/totixv.webm
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>IT'S NOT PREMIUM

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>143577893
I won't be playing them either because I'll be busy abusing the shit out of it
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>>143583672
No shit, they made 800 of the fuckers.
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holy shit this cant be for fucking real
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>>143584365
Rekt
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>Vehicles developed well into the 60's with guided rocket munitions being added.

It's only a matter of time, my fellow Americans. One day the F-101 will see combat - and not just in my heart.
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>>143584564
The real answer is they can't put a prop higher than 6.3 because they need to keep the big scary jet myth alive.
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I forgot that the T-54 has fucking ERA that just makes shells disappear
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>>143584365
THEY KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
>>
>>143584365
>double its payload in real life

Did that guy read the one bomb load that wikipedia has listed for the Tu-4 and decide that must be it's maximum load?
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>>143584701
You clearly hit the wreck teaboo
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>>143584701
you hit the track of the dead tiger II
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>>143584701
Looks like you shot the sprocket of the dead Tiger II there senpai.
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>>143584846
Shells go through wrecked tanks tracks and wheels

So here's your 10GE Borisych
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>>143584701
>shoot the ded tank
>lmao where'd the shell go?
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>>143584701
Your projectile caught the back of the track on that tiger ya dingus.

lern 2 aim - not all of your failings can be blamed on the shifty Rus.
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>>143584923
>triahx is this dumb
Whew
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>>143584701
I've shot through dead tanks before. I don't know what happened there
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>>143584923
No, no they do not.

How have you gotten to 6.7 thinking this


Also ayy at literally everyone telling you the same thing
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>>143584751
Do you have a better source for its maximum payload or are you just fishing for GE
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>>143585070
Hello discord ape
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>retards expected Gaijin to put a prop above 6.3
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>>143585131
>implying I'm going to bother

dunno senpai pretty easy to deduce that the max load of the Tu-4 wouldn't be 6,000kg, considering that's a third lower than the B-29. Especially considering the Tu-4 is 800hp more powerful.
>>
If you want to rage...

>>>/pol/75274435
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>>143585307
>pol
>debating about which WW2 plane is better

Why
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>>143585307
>/pol/
>ever
Id rather willingly play WT
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>>143585307
>/pol/
Literally YLM material
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>>143585473
>>143585525
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>>143584701
you either hit that dead tank or your round phased into non-existence, a problem with any tank
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>Su-122 with HEAT
derp guns are fun
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>>143579663
Yeah, A-1 armed with two 30mm Mk108. No other difference than that
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wat
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>Due to the layout of the vehicle, the missile did not come into the sight of the gun/tracker system until it was 800 yards (730 m) from the vehicle, at which point it could start to be guided. Because of its maximum range of about 2,200 yards (2,000 m), the system was only effective within a fairly narrow span of combat distances


)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>143585789
How did they even cram MK 108s in there?
>>
I love how the 500lb bombs im dropping from 200m up hurt me more then the tanks they fall 10ft from
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>>143586150
>the lightweight plane made out of thin aluminium is more affected by explosives than the multi-ton armoured tank

wow who woulda guessed
>>
>>143585954

>Once a mine or RPG type weapon created the spark, smoke and fire became imminent, and it became a matter of Standing Operating Procedure to abandon the tank immediately.

Who's ready for constant cookoffs?
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>>143586150
Should've armored your plane.
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>>143586279
>>143586329
+10ge each

reminder there is nothing wrong with bomb vertical damage radius tovarish )))))
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>>143585978
MK 108 was reasonably compact.
>>
>>143586150
The shockwave caused by the explosion travels way faster than your plane and won't have much trouble catching up to you from 200 m, and planes are not designed to survive explosions.
>>
>>143586402
Just use rockets instead until they fix it, faggot.
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>>143586329
>drop 100kg bombs in IL-10 from 700 ft
>pilot knocked out)))))))))))))))
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>>143586472
But still quite a lot thicker than 151s and those barely fit.
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>>143586517
Its less that, and more that the tanks are taking it when I drop 500lb bombs 10ft from them. Sure ,y plane should take something but so should the meat filled box 10ft from tthe bomb.
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>>143586150
Use fuse timers.
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>>143586632
Recoil of 30mm would fuck it up, that's why it was upgraded to 20mm. It's honestly a shame, the thing was supposedly pretty good irl (at least on me 262's level), but after they nerfed it, it's barely worth using, since most props will outdo you in everything
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>>143586472
Saw one in person. Pretty small.
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>>143585789
So it's another completely useless plane then

It's a shame I unlocked the 162 after the nerf, it used to be quite capable from what I'd seen and the test flights I did
>>
>>143586521
>just use a weapon that is even worse, and fundamentally broken because for no reason they are disgustingly inaccurate at any range that isn't essentially a suicide dive

ok friend
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>end up with 2 yak3Ps behind me in berlin event
>literally rolypoly one into the ground in my d9
mfw
>>
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/306501-medical-kits/page-16
So that retard ace of aces is allowed to troll and people calling him out on his behavior are is reason for the mods to lock the thread? Ayy to the fucking lmao
>>
>>143585789
Yeah would be neat if Gaijin added the early production wings on the A-1 without the "Lippische ears".
>>
>>143587457
>for no reason they are disgustingly inaccurate
>Like most unguided rockets, RS suffered from poor accuracy. Early testing demonstrated that, when fired from 500 m (1,640 ft), a mere 1.1% of 186 fired RS-82 hit a single tank and 3.7% hit a column of tanks. RS-132 accuracy was even worse, with no hits scored in 134 firings during one test. Combat accuracy was even worse, since the rockets were typically fired from even greater distances. To further complicate the matters, RS-82 required a direct hit to disable light German armor, with near-misses causing no damage. RS-132 could defeat medium German armor with a direct hit but caused almost no damage to light or medium armor with a near-miss. Best results were usually attained when firing in salvos against large ground targets.
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>>143587642
I have no idea what his deal is. He's apparently a middle-aged guy from New Mexico, but he writes like a 13-year-old kid from Belarus.

The shitstorms he provokes are very good pretexts to close down threads, though.
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When
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>>143587807
>that shoulder wing
>that sweep
hnnngh
>>
>>143587749
Care to quote anything about rockets that aren't Russian?

I'm more referring to Allied planes that are renowned ground attack aircraft with rockets being absolute shit and needing to go into death dives to secure kills.

Also hitting the tank isn't an issue, it's the fact that a direct hit will mean literally nothing unless you're within an absurd distance before it registers.
>>
I want to git gud.

My manouver pool is shit and I am a bit of a mouse dragger. How do people manage to keep their camera on someone (ie behind them) while also manouvering and evading smoothly? Whenever I mess with the camera and use the keyboard I end up having really stiff and awkward moves where things don't go where I want them to.

How do I stop being a mouse dragger? Is it a pure get used to it thing, or are there any tricks to using the keyboard to get full performance effects and visibility in RB?

Where do people even learn how to play this game well, I swear.
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>>143587749
Why did so many nations even bother with unguided HEAT rockets? Wouldn't it make more sense to just use good old bombs? I mean I can understand experimenting with them but it seems like they used them a lot.
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http://warthunder.com/en/game/about/

>Rich PvE content: historical and dynamic campaigns, solo missions, mission editor, available for single-player and cooperative gameplay.
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>>143588087
Mouse inputs still register while you're looking at the target by holding right mouse or whatever you use for that, but generally you want to use the keyboard for maneuvers where you're not shooting (like a turnfight), and then once the enemy is in front of you use the mouse for fine adjustments and aiming
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>>143588087
Practise maneuvers and get a feel for each plane. Adjust throttle and combat flaps as necessary to control your turns and loops. All while doing fine aim with your mouse.
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>>143588129
Because it doesn't matter that they're not very accurate on their own when you can fire a bunch and your mates can also fire a bunch. You also don't need to do a real dive bomb pattern, you can just blow and go.
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>>143588129

because bombs in real life weren't anywhere near the accuracy of the shit you can pull off in WT

>>143588086
>renowned ground attack
they comparatively actually killed very little armor, most of the damage was done to soft targets like trains, carriages, and trucks
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>>143588087
>My manouver pool is shit
It's not like you need anything more complex than flat turning, high yoyo and boom n zoom in 99% of situations anyway
>>
>Oh god, Gaijin is so lazy. They just copy pasted the B-29. Then they just stuck 23 mm cannons on it. Don't tell me there's no Russian bias.

I want off this ride.
>>
>BI-1 is added for the russians
post yfw
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>>143588812
>OC do not steal
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F9F-8 when?
Thunderstreak when?
FH Phantom when?
Yak-23 and 25 when?
Sea Vixen when?
Sea Hawk when?
Swift when?
>>
>>143588812
>literally what the russians did
I want this meme to stop
>>
>>143588885
The fuck are you gonna do about it boy?
>>
>>143588086
RP-3 rockets were apparently very accurate, which isn't represented in-game
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>>143588965
>jets
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>>143589016
You're right, let's add 25 more variants of Yaks, 109s and P-51)
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>>143589108
I'd rather see them fix the game instead of adding anything desu.
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>>143588403
>Mouse inputs still register while you're looking at the target by holding right mouse

Oh holy shit. That helps a lot actually, what the fuck how didn't I know this.

I mean I use the keyboard for simple manouvers like split S and immelmans, airleon rolls to tighten turns and such. The problem I always seem to run into is that keyboard applies full force to the controls, like if you press S you are going up in a hurry rather than something slight. Is it really better to roll right and hold S than to just simply drag right? What does it mean to apply rudder control in a turn? When I watch a few youtubers play that get dove on they are always looking at the enemy and manouver effortlessly while I am guilty of taking my eyes off them in dogfights to manouver often.
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>>143589108
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>>143588812
+23mm GE
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>>143589187
Yeah but we both know that's not going to happen, and since all that's left now is making the list of vehicles bigger, I want muh fucking jets.
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>>143589004
>RP-3s were extremely accurate
>goes on to be literally the worst rocket in game
eric
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>>143589285
Wasn't the Sea Vixen a huge failure?
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>>143588602
Okay, but that's really quite irrelevant when I'm talking about accuracy.
>>
>>143589403
no

you're thinking of the f-35
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>>143589218
If you're on the enemy's six you should use keyboard for rolling and mouse for overall fine-tuning maneuvers and aim. You can't really use the rudder in mouse aim because as you said keyboard controls are always 100% deflection, and rudder at 100% deflection will only make your plane roll and wobble.

>youtubers play that get dove on they are always looking at the enemy and manouver effortlessly
Dodging dives is easy, just do a barrell roll or a sharp turn, or a corkscrew dive if you have enough altitude.
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>>143589403
No, served well, had reasonably long service life.

It had no guns, so it will never be in game though.
>>
>>143588087
The biggest thing is to always roll with A and D, never let the instructor roll for you. It's fine to let the instructor do elevator controls for you unless you're doing really heavy turning.
As for camera control, I personally never lock on to enemies, I find just using freecam to be less disorientating.
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>>143589317
>painstaking attention to detail
>>
I can't wait for the russian teams to get infested by bomber spam, playing tier 4 nazi is going to be amazing
>>
>>143589403
British aviation became completely irrelevant after WW2 because they were way behind the US and Russia in the jet department so they didn't do shit in Korea. They exported a lot of their 50s jets to several countries but that's not really a success beyond earning Britain some dosh
>>
>>143587642
Just report him or complain to a mod in a pm how they are ignoring his shit on purpose, like I did with nabutso. It's something if they ignore him in random posts, but it's another thing if you complain about him specifically. Mod will go through his shitposts and if he really is starting arguments by posting stuff that will undoubtedly trigger people into offtopic, he'll do something about it. Mods may be strict, but usually are fair about things like that
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>>143589575
>It had no guns, so it will never be in game though.
Neither did the Sea Meteor, and the Horten had different engines and guns, and the R2Y2 didn't even exist, so I wouldn't rule it out that quick.

Also wasn't there a preproduction Sea Vixen armed with ADENs? They could add that one.
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>>143589403
a lot of people died in accidents flying it
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>>143589898
>wasn't there a preproduction Sea Vixen armed with ADENs?
They were thinking about having ADENs on them, but they decided against it pretty early. Fuck off with your bong shit, though. It's been forever since we got a clap jet and there are do many legitimate, mass produced, participated in combat options.
>>
Reminder Horton should be 5.7 for historical accuracy
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>>143590492
Did you miss the part where I also asked for the Cougar and Thunderstreak
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>>143590578
>Horton
kys amerishit
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>>143590654
Yes.

I'd far rather have an early Scorpion than a Thunderstreak, though. Fiddies are the worst part of flying USAF.
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>>143589187
>I'd rather see them fix the game meme
>the people responsible for modelling and testing vehicles are also the people who do the coding and implement gameplay mechanics and not several separate entities.

ayy
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>>143591471
>company has x revenue
>decides to invest it in artists instead of coders
>but they're 2 separate deparments!
this is right next to "it's a beta"
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>>143587349
doggoposter why do you wear the trip?
>>
Thanks for these hacks Lohere! They're working great.
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>>143591635
>Asset development is so costly it deprives me of my "game being fixed"!!

Unless you can submit a finance report that shows how little money goes into the "game fixing department" then I suggest you rethink your shit position.
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>>143591737
Nobody cared who I was until I put on the trip.
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Daily reminder that the old times will never come back.
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>>143592268
Filtered :^)
>>
>filter
heh, got one
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>>143591271
>Scorpion
afterburners((((((((

Also
>2 engines @5440 lbf
>loaded weight 37k pounds
>thrust to weight barely 0.30

It would be shit m8
>>
>>143592268
this is the dayton museum, right? I need to go there again sometime. Good fun and lots of planes.
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>>143592564
EARLY scorpion. They didn't have afterburners until the C.

>It would be shit m8
The point is to add more mid-low tier jets. Not everything needs to be pushing the boundaries of game balance.
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>>143592639
Yea senpai. Went with my gf and managed to name most of the aircraft and impressed her.
Thanks warthunder ;^)
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>>143591635
>Gaijin is incapable of hiring coders and modelers for new things simultaneously.
>>
>these ridiculously long load times after a match
What the fuck did they break this time?
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>>143592997
>le works for me face
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>>143592795
>liking women
baka
sounds like a fun day though.
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>>143592736
Fair enough

P-59 and FH Phantom would be cool as entry jets too. The P-59 is Yak-15 levels of bad so it would be pretty interesting if it had a reasonable BR for its performance
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>>143591946
>Literally stealing Trihax webm joke

Fuck off you attention seeking cunt
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>>143593215

Had it already been made? My mistake. I hadn't seen it before. I just thought it was a nice, no visibility longshot. Although you can't really complain about stolen jokes on 4chan of all places. Isn't that what a meme is in the first place? Anyway I didn't mean any harm by it, just wanted to share!
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>>143593115
Since I have the premium duck I was able to identify this as romanian before we got to the name plate :^)
Have her thinking I know all sorts of obscure markings when really I just played autism simulator a lot.
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>>143592243
+10 GE
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>>143592795

>Junko and Vermin went to an aircraft museum together on a date.

C U T E ~ !
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>>143592795
But were you able to explain to her how the Me 163 went so fast with such a tiny propeller?
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>>143593546
I dunno, most people that play WWII games or have an interest in history of the time can probably point out most relatively common markings. Stuff like US/UK/Ger/Rus/Jap are obvious, and I'd guess a lot of WWII buffs would recognize the Romanian roundel (considering they relatively important in supporting Germany) as well as the Finnish roundel (because dude swastika lmao). Other stuff though, even stuff like the Italian roundel I dunno if people would recognize. Like, I couldn't tell you what a Spanish roundel looks like and I'd consider myself a mid-tier plane autist. Same for the Chinese roundels.
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>>143593826
I did point it out but she wasn't buying it desu.
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>>143593970
Yea I've been a ww2 guy for awhile and didn't know anything about Romania desu.
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>>143594231
Nice bomb.
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>>143589759
>British aviation
>behind Russia

yam lad
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>>143593970
>>143594231
>tfw always loved planes but my knwoledge of aviation started in the 70s and was mostly about modern jets
>tfw the only WW2 planes I knew before playing War Thunder were the P-51 and the Spitfire
>tfw as shit as this game is it has at least expanded my knowledge of aviation history a lot
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>>143593970
>Spanish
Francoist or Republican?

>Chinese
Nationalist? PRC? Sinkiang?
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>>143594231
>>
>>143589759

I've never seen anyone post so much bullshit in all my life lol.
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>>143589759

What about Harrier-chan?
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>>143594517
well british aviation was literally behind russian

as in their engines powered russian planes
>>
>>143594517
Sure the Slavs couldn't do shit until they got their hands on a RR Nene but during the Korean War they were already flying hundreds of MiG-15s which could shit on anything the British had. And after Korea was over, anything the British had was no longer relevant.
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>tfw BenchBro will never take you to an aircraft museum
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>>143594581
Pretty much this desu. I have like no idea about ww2 aviation.
Embarrassingly call of duty 2 big red one started my interest in ww2 which is why I don't know much about aviation besides that one b-17 mission I replayed about 4 times a day.
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>>143556763
>>
>>143594975
call of duty back then was pretty good desu

>>143594614
both the nationalists and republicans for the spanish, and I meant the nationalists for the Chinese.
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>>143589759
>>143594787
What are:
>Folland gnat
>EE lightning
>v-bombers
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AI RP nerfed when?
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>>143594614

Manchuria had a roundel too.
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>>143595691
My point was that modern political entities aren't necessarily the same.
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>>143521076
https://www.fanfiction.net/search.php?keywords=%22war+thunder%22&ready=1&type=story

>Two War Thunder squadrons are inadvertently transported into the Strike Witches World whenever they start a clan battle. How will they be able to cope with this? Will they be able to influence the SW to the point of changing the outcome entirely? Inspired by the other WT/SW stories found here.

>Inspired by the other WT/SW stories found here

You have got to be fucking kidding me
>>
So how shit is the Wyvern?

Also better engine sounds for all the other jets when?
>>
>>143596343
It goes up and down and around alright and the acceleration is good. Also no torque.
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>>143596214
>looking for war thunder on fucking fanfiction.net
What the hell did you expect?
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>>143596214
Fanfiction is horrible most of the time either way.
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>>143596214

Our glorious British pilot flying in a Spitfire, has a gentleman like joust with a German Messerschmitt 262. British engineering at its finest, ol' chap *sips tea*

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Was 122mm nerfed when I was out? I hit KT in the side at ammo height, it turns black and one guy dies. I hit Panther G through the mantlet, one guy dies.
>>
>http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303630-patch-159-rumor-roundup/?p=6182833
>scraper randomly sperging out after people were actually having a decent conversation for two pages that would lead to the game getting improved
WE CAN'T HAVE THAT, IT'S NOT HOW IT WAS WHEN I WAS IN ARMY

fuck the gaijin HQ, australia fucking nuked when?????? https://u.pomf.is/orycmb.webm
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>>143594975
It wasn't even a B-17 Mission, it as a B-24 Mission. Thus the name, "Liberators."
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FACT: Weaboos are the most powerful race in the world.
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>>143596785

For some fucking reason that link is in the OP, anon. Don't fuckin ask me why.

>>143596980

What pisses me off, is why the fuck is this "War Thunder?" It's not anything, it's just WWII dogfighting. What the fuck makes it "WAR THUNDER?" That's like writing fanfiction for Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator, or IL-2 Sturmovik. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE.
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>>143597962
>an underage weeaboo, a shitposter and a homosexual walk into a bar...
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>>143598213
>For some fucking reason that link is in the OP, anon. Don't fuckin ask me why.
kek
Good job smuggling that in OP
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>>143597897
Shiet it's been awhile anon I couldn't remember for sure.
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>>143578827
>bombs actually killing tanks
>>
Squire could be the best WT youtuber if he dropped his schtick. He is pretty skilled, knowledgable, and clever but holy shit I can't watch a lot of these videos, it's just annoying.

Damn shame really considering the selection we have right now.
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>>143599321
Do you get payed for these channels advertisements?
>>
>>143598213

I wonder how long that has been there.
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>>143598597
I haven't played it since, god, when it came out. But I still remember it because of how awesome it was.

Call of Duty: United Offensive had a B-17 Mission
>>
>>143599321
I honestly, unironically enjoyed Magz' videos. I can't stand the ultra hype fags like Phly and Orange always sounds like a condescending and insufferable prick (which is funny since he's like 18 or 19 and thinks he's the hottest shit in the world)
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>constant matches of 5.3-5.7 vs 6.0-6.3
MM fixed when?
>>
>>143599919
I remember playing it over and over trying to get as many of the German cross kill marks as I could.
I had dileup Internet so no online. Just replaying the campaign over and over and over.
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>>143599927
Yeah, they weren't absolute trash compared to other shit, but his sometimes did get annoying and you were better of skipping any WT GF video he made
>>
>tfw you successfully bait the enemy into stalling himself in an attempt to catch you in a zoom climb

stall fighting best fighting
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>>143601102

Nice blog.
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>>143601305
thank you :D did you subscribe?
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when do you think gaijin will add in heat seeking missles? Surely were not fsr from it, right?
>>
>>143601585
first successful air to air missiles were in 1955/1956. We're on the end of that era of top tier jets we have. Expect to see them on soviets first though.
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>Breda-SAFAT lighting fires like fiddies
Huh?
>>
>>143602372
Ok The_Grouch
>>
>>
>>143602441
Seriously, though, when did they stop being potato guns?
>>
The wait times for this event are total bullshit.
>>
>>143603000
I flew nothing but the 202 in the last EC event and they were still trash. You're probably just having some good RNG.
>>
>>143603000
one or two patches ago, I mentioned it a couple times in the thread and some dumb niggers thought I was bullshitting
>>
>>143603189
Welcome to a dying game
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>>143603195
I flew the 202 in the RB event for the MBR and more than 50% of my kills were from setting niggers on fire
>>
>shoot high explosive at tank track
>not even yellow
What the fuck does Gaijin thim high explosive means?
it's a fucking 9mm bullet
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>>143601585
I wouldn't be surprised to see early Sparrows if they added the F3D
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Why is this even allowed?

>inb4 weebs defending prop outrunning jet
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>>143603696
Early jets have trash acceleration. Next time don't use them to turnfight.
>>
>>143603824

>turn fight

I was flying perfectly straight until I had to dodge, the J7W1 is OP trash and you know it.
>>
>>143604093
It's a flying matchstick and you're am absolute shitter.
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>>143603696
>>143603824
>>143604093
>>143604183

lol does this fucking loser do anything but fly his broke OP napkin plane on New Guinea?
>>
>try out event
>in queue as germans for several minutes because next to no russians are in queue
>our team is smaller than theirs by 3
>get bombed in our spawn immediately
>nobody is allowed to spawn tiger IIs though they can spam IS-2s
>all this while playing on the worst, most campable side of Berlin
Haha holy fuck I was going to quit GF when 1.59 came out but I think I might just duck out early
>>
>>143604183

>It's a flying matchstick
It has fucking TANK level armor on the front. Have you ever even fucking looked at it?

>It's a flying matchstick and you're am absolute shitter.
I'll have you know I don't have any problems with any other plane in my P-80, even other jets. The J7W1 is an OP paper plane which shouldn't even be in the game.
>>
>>143605228
>on the front
What the fuck are you doing taking a head on with something with four fucking 30mm guns on its nose?
>>
>>143604926
>fly plans in the event
>every single one of them is flying their post-war memeplane
I thought events were supposed to have somewhat historical lineups.
>>
>>143605598
The nazis are getting their shit smashed in. It's 100% historical.
>>
>>143605714
Yeah no wonder if the entire slav team is Yak-3Ps
I don't give a shit what happens on the ground
>>
>>143605598

which event are you talking about

the special event doesn't have postwar and the regular SB event is a post-war lineup
>>
>>143605714
>play tanks in event
>slavboos btfo
>last plane sits on its runway doing nothing
>>
>>143605405

Shut up noob, it has 16.5mm of armor completely covering the front. Its effectively invincible. That's bullshit and you know it.

Also there's no way it could actually go 750kph. Its impossible for a plane that unaerodynamic could be faster than a P-51.
>>
>>143605841
The Berlin event, which has the Yak-3P.
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>>143605841
Ta 152
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>>143605958
can you put on a trip when you're about to go on j7w1 memerants? They aren't funny, and I would love to filter them
>>
>>143606306

>whaaaa mommy he said something I don't like, please make it so I don't have to hear him.

Why don't you go back to tumblr if the truth triggers you so much?
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What's the next best tier 4 plane to spade?
>>
>>143606843

Obviously the J7W1.
>>
>>143606843
Spit.22 if you're a turbonigger. K-4 if you're a real man.
>>
>>143606938
I meant germans of course. Gotta research that He 162 before they squeeze another one between me and the MiG-15.
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>>143606843
190 A-8
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>>143606843
Tu-4
>>
>>143606843

F7F
>>
>Spawn in
>Head to point
>Get on point
>Get shot repeatedly from behind
>Enemy just drove past my team on that flank and is shooting everyone in the ass
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>low quality offers no advantage
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>>143608675
it's fixed now))
>>
>tfw actually feeling relieved about going up against russians in my Chieftain.

Fucking Leopard rushes are pure cancer desu
>>
>>143609984
>ULQ used to look like this
jesus
>>
>>143610338
Nah you also had to modife your graphics driver
>>
>>143610185
>Junko
>literally so shit he can't kill paper tanks
>whilst he's driving the best tier 5

kys
>>
How long are queue times to get into sim battles? I've never tried them before because I thought they were dead.
>>
>>143611090
Forget the Berlin Event in SB. Takes too much time.
Since they killed the normal MM for SB and added those stupid events, even less player get into it.
They going to remove it completly from the game soon.
>>
>>143610185
Junko, buddy

listen, this may be hard to hear but;

you're the only person I know that does fucking terrible in the best tank in the game. Aka the chieftain
>>
>>143611343

I just wanna try EC.
>>
>>143610185
The T-10M is almost as fast as the leo on rough terrain.
>>
>>143611412
>>143611556

I suppose I do suck. I'm getting better with it though. I'm learning how to position and what kinda playstyle you need to use with it. I do believe that the Leo is the best tank in the game though. It's insanely fast and manoeuvrable and HEATFS is great.

I don't have nearly as much experience in tanks as I do in planes. And I'm trying to get better all the time! Your criticisms have redoubled my efforts to get better at with tanks.
>>
>>143611905
>It's insanely fast and manoeuvrable
No
>HEATFS
Exact same as the M60
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>>143612842
Junko sucks but the LEO really is the best Tank in the game

Mobilty > Armor
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>>143613043
>Mobilty > Armor

You mean the Exact same """""""""mobility""""""
the chieftain and t-10 have compared to it
>>
>>143613043
>tfw better mobility and less armor in muh super skillcat
>>
>>143613191
Leo can do a solid 55Km/H~ on every Terrain comparede to the Cumstains and TrampM-10s 30
>>
>>143613043
the mobility that the leo gets compared to the chieftain is negligible
>>
>>143613370
>Leo can do a solid 55Km/H~ on every Terrain

No it can't. You can stop lying to fill whatever this nazi dream you're having is
>>
>WT TS
>Just dogposter and gayposter talking about WarGame for the past hour
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>>143613595
>>143613595
>>143613595

New thread faggots
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>>143613518
>leo
>nazi
I need more images of angry annie mays.
>>
>>143613518
>Leo
>Nazi

I can't hear you all the way back there
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