/tesog/ - The Elder Scrolls Online General

I'm sorta bummed out I never got that glitch

>>143396965
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Jeweled_Crown_of_Anton
It happens in this quest

>>143397757
>>143390079
Spears would make for a lot of nice crowd control and distance skills.
maybe they'll add them behind another fucking paywall

>>143398761
what is the Chattering Skull for? dropped one for me

>>143399089
Collectibles to unlock achievements to unlock dyes.

>>143399089
Just sell it once you get it, it already counts for achievement.

>>143403570
It gets bound as soon as you pick it up, though

>it's 150,000 alliance points to change campaigns
>stuck in a dead campaign for another 17 days with 43,000 alliance points

So, uh, how does the guest system work? You earn alliance points like normal but you don't get the final reward is all? Or are there other big downsides to being a guest?

>>143404870
only 600 scouting missions, get to it! :^)

>>143404870
no real big downsides to guesting, just that you don't get rewards from the campaign you're homed in.

150k AP isn't that much if you are playing with a decent group of people.

>>143406554
I play alone :(

I just try to find a big group and follow them everywhere with a few ballistas and catapults on me.

>>143409929
>Ask for group (hopefully with invite code) in zone
>Play around with them and do shit
>ASK them to invite to guild if there is one
>???
>Profit

And by profit i mean the guild might run regularly and have dedicated crafters that you can ask for decent gear and such.

>>143396737
>predator
>Not Jar Jar

>only game where I've ever left sound enabled
>comfy ambient sounds, bards singing in inns
>joined a comfy guild with active TS
>have to choose between listening to the game or listening to TS

I'm not equipped to deal with this.

>>143410469
I'm on ps4 though, you can't actually chat with other people

>>143413867
https://www.eso-lfg.com/en/
t. ps4 player

Can someone tell me some areas for grinding in DC? I only know the ones for EP.

race change when?

>>143418376
This is one of the most autistic requests i've ever seen both in the forums and here.

>>143418376
Never.

Live dammit

>>143412520
>ever wanting to listen to people who arent voice actors talking

fucking millenials and their voice coms back in my day we had dialup and only jokers who tried to use roger wilco who everyone made fun of.

its not a choice, voip is evil. In the words of venerable reverend sharpton "resist we much, we must, and we will much, about that, be committed"

>>143418376
>not playing a cute from the start

you dont deserve to be cute

>>143403993
By sell I mean sell to a mechant. It's only worth gold once you pick it up.

pvps kind of no fun, sieges dont last very long. its not like daoc where you slowly watch the gates come down and mount various sorties outside to stop it or try to sneak into the keep. If a keeps being sieges and you arent already there its likely to be down before you even arrive

a shame, there was potential here

>>143432004
Disagree, there's plenty of time for reinforcements to arrive at a besieged keep.

>>143428501
>fucking millenials and their voice coms back in my day we had dialup
Pretty sure you didn't had internet on your Commodore 64, gramps

Finally.

Made a DC sorcerer called Carl the Stormcrow

Any name ideas for an AD high elf templar?

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>tfw just crafted a new set of gear and will feel like a god for the next couple of levels

So.. How many people are in the NA PC guild?

>>143443592
7 for now, I think, counting me and another guy that sent a message to clv yesterday.

>>143443471
>inb4 you get a better as a reward for the next quest
happened to me...

>>143441831
>AD high elf templar

Sounds like the most pompous, high and mighty, arrogant bastard kind of character you can make in this game.

What should I get as a secondary for a staff dunmer sorcerer?

>>143449630
Fire destro if you don't already have it.

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FOUND IT

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>>143451556

IMPORTANT LOREBOOK DISCOVERED

>>143451159
I thought that should be the primary...

>>143451556
That was written in the Third Era.
Thanks, Zenimax

>>143453368
>DRAGON BREAK
>IS ALSO THE INTERREGNUM

>>143449630
Anyone else? I already have a fire destro staff as a primary.

>>143449630
destro/dw is generally the sorc meta dps weapon setup. execute and overload on your dw bar.

there is contention for putting your execute on your destro bar, but that's just for proccing kena, so if you don't have it keep it on your dw bar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffZfbi-wjto

MAKE MONEY FOR YOUR V16 SETS NEXT PATCH

>>143446525
I remember when I got the Queen Eye chest piece quite early on in tha AD story, that fucking thing did for about six levels

>>143451556
>>143451783

The Lusty Stormcalling?
Never heard of it.
Also screw Zeni for putting it in and their dumbass Colonel Sanders. Like, I get it, it's a popular thing with Elder Scrolls fans but short of putting it in a daedric realm where time isn't linear there's no excuse for that or any other future books being found in ESO.

>>143453368
As far as I know, Morrowind started it with The Dragon Break Re-Examined, and it's due to some fuckery with Hermaeus Mora.

>>143453368
According to Zenimax, the book written by the character in Morrowind was not an original work, but was based on earlier lost works.

>>143446525
Set bonuses beat any dropped armor, at least at non-vet levels.

>>143459936
And that's an awful quarter-assed attempt at a retcon since you straight up talk to the author, witness his eccentricity.

>>143453368

More people will find it amusing than irritating, such is life.

Even as someone enjoys lore, though, this doesn't bother me. While the world of ESO isn't exactly consistent, you can tell the developers had a lot of fun with it.

Seeing all the silly little details around the world, all of the questlines and lorebooks that border on satire - it makes me smile. It's been a while since I played a game with such a lovingly crafted and comfy world.

That's enough for me.

>We are currently investigating issues some players are having regarding logging into the North American PC/Mac megaserver. We will update as new information becomes available.
Yay! Anyone else affected?

>>143462348
Me.

>>143462348
Went to take a piss came back and I was logged out now I can't get back in.

>>143455719
That's interesting, thanks, clv

>>143462846
>>143462731
>>143462348
Back up for me

>>143460962
They shoehorned everything in.

bump :)

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>>143474560
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>>143474680

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>>143472907
>>143474560
>>143474680
>>143474778

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Are you having a good day, esog?

I sat in the sun for a while to catch some rays, now I'm drinking a fancy hard cider with pears and blackberries while listening to the bard songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDdcVK47BY0&list=PL5uuqanRfDnCiuzPohqQfane3jspxgyVi&index=1

Very comfy.

>>143476287
You talk like a queer

>>143476776

It's a queer sort of day, anon.

>>143476287
Yes, indeed

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I will never not be mad at Bethesda stopping Sloads and Imgas appearing in the game.

>>143487816
*Zenimax

y so ded

What's the best polymorph? I'm using Goblin right now but it's very degenrerate

>>143420002
>>143429798
it's not even waifu shit, it's just me wishing I had Imperial edition at the time because that race would be GOAT with my stamplar

So what faction has the best story? Currently playing through AD

>>143494110
DC
AD is only enjoyable if you read C0DA
EP is meme shit

>>143491397
Skele. Always skele.

>>143493801
then make an Imperial Stamplar instead, with DB changes you won't need to grind all the way to v16.

>>143493801
EP have the best variety even if the Skyrim areas are just shit. DC is bland and basically Dungeons and Dragons: The Game. AD have most impressive moments and you get to fly to the moon.

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>>143488215
Zenimax wanted them both in the game but they have to check stuff like that with Bethesda and they said no.

>>143494481
my mount is nearly halfway upgraded and it's boring to redo the same class, guess my plar is stuck as a manlet bosmer

>>143494302
>AD only enjoyable if you read C0DA.

I know some people say Queen Ayrenn is KINMUNE but how is it related to C0DA?

>>143495571
Because that's where that bit comes from, it's not elaborated on at all though

>>143493801
>not making a waifu

I wish i could understand kirkbride

>>143501309
good luck with that

>>143494302
EP has netch and guars, so it's objectively better.

So me and a friend were talking. How would you go about doing a self-imposed hard mode for ESO?

We were thinking only being able to use items you craft, skipping the first alliance zone and going straight to the second, and making death permanent. You die, you delete.

Anything else we could do?

>>143504673
Go naked and use only weapon and class skills.

>>143504673
Only use stolen clothes instead of armour.

I played this at the start of the console relaunch.
I was actually really into it but got bored at cap because the gear progression was farming one 4 man over and over for a hat.

Has that aspect improved? And is there more difficult things to do at cap now?

>>143504673
must be stam based

I've seen no convincing evidence that Nightblade is actually any fun or useful in PVE

>>143509467
Every game has that one class that the tryhards flock to because on paper it's the DPS/Gank machine, and every time there's a class that can perform the role better while being twice as fun.

>>143509467
its the second most asthetic class after sorcerer, and since sorcerers should not be stam based (because thats just stupid sounding) its the default stam class.

templars are silly with their class icon, who would want that signifying them? and dragon knights are just stupid meant for people whos first TES game was skyrim.

>>143510661
>stamina build
>not templar
lol

>>143510773
this threads so slow, it seems like you would read all of every post instead of rushing to reply after reading only half

>>143510923
it's not the slowest thread on /vg/

>>143510773
>stam build
>not picking the literal 50k dps dk
>not owning maelstrom axes

i picked nightblade because it has the cutest class icon

What's the best non-horse mount?

>>143519038
Bear

god damn it's so satisfying when all 3 factions meet up in one big clusterfuck battle outside your castle, got a little over 60k AP total in just a single 15-20 minute keep defense

>>143520449
TF or had?

>>143520643
no idea what either of those things are, I guested into a 7 day vet campaign this afternoon and alessia was the last castle needed for emperor I think, both the reds and the blues were just throwing themselves at it for 20 minutes solid it's the most AP I've ever got in a day

>>143521819
Was it NA BWB? i think i was there defending alessia from a de-emp attempt.

>>143523540
nah this was NA PS4 in the 7 day vet resource campaign I think? had a waiting time for it so it must have been packed

>>143519038
the brown horse is the best mount because everyone has something fancier.

>>143494369
How do I get skele? I looked in the eShekels store and nothing.

>>143527941
You have to earn it from a quest, you can't buy it.

>>143519038
that time limited cat mount with blue lightning, because it was getting some guys in reapers zone chat triggered as fuck because they had to pay money to get it and it wasn't from some quest reward

>>143528938
But is it lore friendly?

>>143529198
>tes
everything is lore friendly in tes depending on how far out you want to zoom.

>>143529198
The mount itself is an actual thing that exists in the lore, although the Khajiit are supposed to be the only ones able to ride it.

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Share time!

>glitch

Anyone has seen any weird glitches?

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Share time!

>ghost?

See video, all quest cleared on that map, I have not seen any NPC behaving like that. Ghost lore? Easter egg? Urban legend?
>XFilestheme.mp3

https://youtu.be/qU0a6jd4y6w

>>143526432
It's the only one that implies you're not a good goy.

>>143534050
That's fucking nice.

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New adventure on a fresh faction ive never played before!

>>143542060
AD, I guess?

Come on, literally no one plays in EU?

>>143526432
>Best horse
>Not the Yokudan charger

lmao

>end of mage guild questline
Feel like a bit of an asshole.

>>143548912
You just had to have that fucking skill point, didn't you.

>>143548912
MONKEY MEME BUTTER

>>143549743
Could be the difference between getting some marginally useful passive that saves my backside in a fight. Or JUST fitting in some trade skill.

I don't understand butter.

>>143548912
You should have been around when people thought you could get the skillpoint by some other means, and the enormous butthurt people got over the fact that what you do in the game had permanent consequences.

>>143533387
I always though it was my addons that caused it.

>>143529198
Sort of? It's a technical possibility but silly to see every one and their mother ride around on them.

>>143550775
I've had several characters and the only one I took the skill point on was my crafter because he was very short on points.

>>143553080
Way I see it, if you're not Khajiit you have no business being on a cat

>>143555037
Couldn't agree more. Is the Maw or Lorkhaj connected to the new mount in some way? Considering Orsinium had a quest about the legendary beer rider.

>>143555364
>the legendary beer rider
I didn't know they did a quest about me.

>>143555762
Ok, first of all, hello.

>>143555762
kek meant bear

>>143555037
The cash shop is the bigfest offender regarding lore, I wish I could just hide all that crap.

>>143564358
Don't know why it's so dead today.

>>143566880
I think it's because there's not much to discuss atm. For PC players the DLC is 4 days away. And Zenimax haven't said anything noteworthy about what to expect after Dark Brotherhood, presumably because we'll see it at E3.

australians sleeping or drunk
koreans chasing iljins
seabros trying to get out of the heat
indians worried about china and pakis
mid east at war
turkey triggered because another anzu thread
eastern europe and russia feeding in dota
germany too tired to play because long day at work
brits busy playing
americans still at work
hawaii driving to work

>>143568861
>>143566880

>>143548912
Nah, Shalidor deserved to get cucked

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So what do you think she rhymed with this?
'The Queen fucked a bard'?

>>143571847
Or maybe she cucked the bard?

>>143571847
context?

>>143573005
The player and the Captain have a drinking contest and both get pished out of their minds and can't remember anything

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Can anyone explain this to me? Why can't I cook this?

>>143573897
>recipe improvement 2 needed
>you have 1/6 recipe improvement.

>>143573897
You need skill points in recipe improvement.
Crafting sucks up a lot of skill points.

>>143574536
>>143574835

Oh, I was looking at the wrong talent I guess. Whoops.

Leveling provisioning is satan.

I'm getting really tired of keeping Surge and Boundless storm up as Stam sorc.

How much of a mistake would it be to respec at level 33? Magicka sorc does more damage and shit anyway, doesn't it?

>>143577794
>Stam sorc
anon...

>>143577794

Although I'm an Orc, so I may have done fucking goofed big time.

I really really don't want to reroll.

>>143577794
You're tired of a 20-30s buff you need to keep up?
Magicka sorcs have a 20s buff that's getting nerfed down to 6s next patch. You've got it good, mr speedy.

>>143577794
If you can afford it there's no reason to respect to your hearts desire.

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>>143578120

I guess 'bored' would be a more prudent description. I just want to speed around like an idiot and hit things.

I think I just hate having to use a "buff" bar. Where you have to switch weapons, recast your buffs, drop arrow barrage, then switch back, instead of just using shit.

Maybe it'll get better when I get caltrops instead of Arrow Barrage, since I won't have to recast it constantly.

And I guess I could just do something like this and drop other shit.

And an unrelated question - Overload isn't good for a stam build, right?

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>>143534050
Can anyone on this general confirm this?

>>143579585
I think they guy who posted it is the one who discovered it...

>>143578814
The light and heavy damage is an ultimate so should scale off your highest of stam and magicka, but they're light and heavy, so might be based on the weapon in that hand.

>>143577794
I'm respecing a lvl 40 Templar to stamtemp. Gear with the training trait helps speed things up significantly.

bunch of stupid questions from a brand new player - can I learn all professions on a single character? if so, will I gimp my combat skills by investing points in crafting instead? or will I have enough points to do both reasonably well?

or will I need a dedicated crafting alt?

and is tesog guild ded? if I understand correctly I need to be in a guild to do trading?

and most important question of all - why is game chat all germans and one polish guy?

>>143582406
The guilds were created a couple days ago, it's too soon to call them dead.

I guess you're looking at the zone chat, so maybe those people are talking to each other, most of us have it muted because it's nothing but guild spam.

You can trade without a guild, you can join up to 5 guilds, 1 of them being a trading guild is nice, as you can sell and buy stuff at any bank that way.

>>143582406
Yes you can do all professions, you get a bunch of skill points from quests and skyshards, it's just about enough to let you keep up with every craft and still have points for your main skills I think? To make a dedicated crafting alt you'd have to go through all the quests and skyshard collecting you do on your main character. Most important thing to do early on is to always be researching something.

Tesog guild has like 8 members maybe? not enough to allow a trader, you'll need to find another guild.

I have no idea on that last one

>>143579585
I can confirm it but 4chan being 4chan doesn't allow me to upload pictures. It's probably not a ghost but rather a Nereid, probably connected to the group dungeon just around the corner.

>>143582406
Starting an all-crafter at low levels will be extremely difficult if not impossible. I have a lvl 20 doing just smithing, clothier and woodworking and I'm short on skill points.
If you want to be able to craft for yourself at low levels the only way is to be leveling 2-3 alts at the same time the way I did. I got one character to about level 25 with 50 in provisioning and alchemy and respecced him as a dedicated provisioner, alchemist and bank alt.

>>143582406
You can level all crafting skills and max every passive in them and still have more than enough skill points for one role (in the end). You might run out of skill points depending on how fast you level your crafting. It would be best to focus on progressing through areas doing the quests that give skill points and gathering the skyshards. Once you have your needed class, weapon and armor skill lines maxed and all the skills you need you start focusing on your crafts.

Having lots of extra skills available is convenient if you want to switch things up but really it's not necessary. If you play both PvE and PvP you'll be needing more skills available. Especially for PvP since a build for fighting solo is different from fighting in a small group which is different from fighting in a 20-man raid etc.

>>143583019
>>143583078
>>143583201
>>143584108

I guess I won't be investing in all of them then.

Right now I'm looking at focusing on alchemy and provisioning because potion crafting has been good in every mmo I've played and provisioning because cooking in WoW, or is armor/weapon crafting more beneficial in eso?

>>143585383
I'd try to get all the main crafting skills to 32 at the very least, it unlocks the ability to refine raw materials and get gold quality items sometimes. That's how I made all my money which I used to buy up a bunch of high end crafted gear. Hirelings are kind of nice too but you almost need to make 7 alts with 3 in every craft to get the most of that I think.

>>143585383
Alchemy and provisioning are universally used since since they have passives that increase the duration of potion and food effects. Potion buff can last the entire potion cooldown with the passive (or longer) and legendary foods won't have to eaten as often. Making your own food and potions is better than buying them.

Equipment crafting is a way to make gold though not by crafting equipment but from refining raw mats to get legendary improvement mats. You can refine without leveling crafting but the passive which increases the chance the get improvement mats means increasing gold gains so you want that. The crafting hirelings do sometimes bring you legendary mats so that's a bit more gold.

If you ever intend to actually craft equipment, you should start researching items straight away because researching every trait in a profession takes a year.

>>143585383
Make your main a smith, clothier and woodworker and start leveling early.
The most time consuming thing to level is smithing, clothing and woodworking trait research. It takes months to research everything even if your are very efficient at it. You also need this crafter to be a vet level character to be able to craft the end game gear because they need access to high level areas for set bonuses. This crafter will also need a large investment in motif books to craft all motifs.

>>143587424
Can't you send the mats to the crafter?

Minecraft

>>143589131
It's not the mats, it's access to special crafting locations that allow you to craft gear with special bonuses. These are essential for end-game gear.

>>143546496
Video Games are haram

>make a big deal about meme spy cat sacrificing himself
>literally shows up a couple quests later and shrugs it off
Bravo, really keeping in line with Todd's philosophy of no consequences

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>>143590246

How do I join NA guild

>>143585383
The three equipment crafting skills should all be leveled. Do this while deconstructing as you go. You should keep your material skill high enough to make gear for you. The craft sets are pretty good.

There are other things that are good such as the assistants that at 3/3 can bring you some nice stuff, but dont invest in this early on. Material cost reduction for improving is VERY useful because it lets you upgrade things you find. Dont invest in this while leveling though, making stuff you craft blue is cheap, the reduction more comes into play when you are wanting to fully upgrade stuff later on

Provisioning levels itself. Make yourself blue food. Dont worry about any of the other skills except the asssistant when you can max it. Extra food items per craft or longer duration are not needed while leveling because mats are cheap from the guild trader, those are for when you are doing really high end stuff.

Enchanting is a bitch to level. Deconstruct glyphs you find and save runes you find, but honestly dont try to level this as you go. The store bought glyphs are good enough. The way to level this is
Do not read any books while leveling
Just deconstruct shit untill you are like enchanting 30something
Learn all the traits on all those runes you were saving up
Beg borrow or steal glyphs to deconstruct
Once you are at enchanting 45 go read every bookcase in tamriel untill you find all 5 +enchanting books

Alchemy is good but not needed when leveling, its also easy to level up. Save mats, but you dont need to invest points into it while leveling, food will carry you. Later on when you have the points to spare you can max it quickly if you've been saving waters and plants you find.

>>143555037
ESO fucked up the Senche from what I've seen they are just generic tigers not Khajiit

>>143590824
message @clv

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When have people ever rode big wolves in TES? Honest question, seems weird

>>143589131
>crafting alt

you get enough points to max every craft, have a full build with points to spare for options.

Making a 'crafting alt' is tedious and a hassle since they cant go everywhere.

Just be smart with the points, only spend points early on that you need to keep leveling the crafts or which you gain great benifit from (being able to craft your sets when you are already heavy into research is a wise point investment, for example, trying to make huge stacks of mid level purple food 4 at a time is just 4 wasted points)

>>143591496
mounts, pets and skins are cancer

Does anyone know if you can get frost mirriam from the 2nd town's crafting writ?

>>143591405
Account not found

>>143592184
i got some just last night, but i dont know how common it is

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>>143592012
>tfw just want a doge companion to fight with me not be a useless prop

>>143592603
Are we talking about PC?

>>143592628
Ok, just making sure. I think I'm running every alt I have to elden root to do provisioning writs every day then.

>>143593119
yup

>>143592924
They're changing one of the a werewolf morphs so that gives you two wolf companions when activated.

>>143592953
Don't even try to bring lore into that garbage, please don't...

>>143593295
I sent a message yesterday and it worked, I don't know what's the issue. Post your ID and hope someone else invites you...

>>143592012
I like the monkey pet.
Theres something about little monkeys, i just want to punch them and then comfort them

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Someone crafted me a full set of gear at level 26.

At what point should I replace this stuff?

>>143591496
Yea it's strange but mounts sells like hotcake. I've seen way to many black sparkling not-panthers.

I don't want to imagine what they're gonna release with Murkmire. If it's an Argonian Behemot I'm going to lose my shit.

>>143593946
when you come across something better

>>143594149

But I don't know how to weigh the value of all these set bonuses and training stats against increased armor or weapon damage.

Should I have just immediately replaced it because of how the scaling works for dungeons and cyrodil?

>>143593804
I like killing monkeys.
I don't know why, but I feel compelled to massacre the wee bastards whenever I see them

>>143593946
I have a crafter and I craft new gear every 4-6 levels. I may make new weapons every 2 levels.

>>143594893

Yeah, but I'm not a crafter, and I'm not going to ask them to make me another set.

I mean replacing this shit with regular dropped gear.

>>143593804
Get a sub.

>>143593616
> Getting triggerd by lore

I don't think this franchise is your cup of tea. Khajiits use the word "sencehe" to mean a variety of things. It is used as "senche" and "senche-raht" to refer to two of the seventeen distinct "breeds" of Khajiit. They use the term "senche-tiger" to refer their more catlike cousins of lesser sentience that aren't Khajiits.

>>143595129
I'm a lore guy, it just hurts too much seeing all those nonsenses the fucking cash shop brings in.

>>143595129
>>143595326

We should take a moment to appreciate how comfortable our lives are that we can afford to care this much about lore in a video game.

>all these screenshots with shit graphic settings
Either get a decent pc or get it on console.
Some of these screens are so bad.

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>>143595326
Thunder

Thunder

THUNDERCATS HOOOOOOOO!

Every time I see one of those electric kitties

Is it normal to be facing higher level enemies in general? I'm in Elden Root at lvl 11 and have been facing lvl 16s and rarely dying, only trouble I have is the end of quest "boss" enemies, but even just one rando is enough to take it/them out.

This is my first Elder Scrolls since Morrowind by the way, anything significant I should know about?

>>143597063
I like to do map completions, the progression seems made for it.

>>143597063
stop skipping quests and delves and/or do more campaign stuff, this isn't really a game you can just power through the main content and get to endgame immediately

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>>143595767
>tfw you're not a starving in africa

>>143597314
same here, any addon that displays the levels of each zone?

>>143597063
If you're doing all the quests, you should be several levels above the content such is the xp from questing these days. Did you skip the starter island?
Also, if you're fighting mobs more than 5 levels above you or below you, you actually get decreased xp.
Also your abilities will miss their targets more often when against higher level mobs. It's not much at 1 or 2 levels, but at 5 it's significant.

>>143534050
Isn't this just one of these common grill like creatures that lurk in some lakes? Seems like just map detail.

>>143597063

I'm level 34 and I've been fighting enemies 3-5 levels higher than me since I started.

PvE is stupid easy in this game, and it seems to be faster for leveling. I don't see any reason not to.

I shit on group bosses 5 levels higher than me with no effort.

>>143593946
Overall overworld content is pretty easy and that gear set will be pretty useful until you're lvl 50, if you're still lvl 26 and go to non vet PvP you'll be godlike if you can handle yourself

>>143595767
/tesg/ is the other way around senpai

>>143601334
>/tesg/
>lore
and fuck off

>>143601404
obv meant tesg is a shithole.

>>143601519

You know, anon, there are still places in the world where people actually shit in holes. You should feel blessed that your life is so comfortable.

>>143603783
>>>/diy/>>999183

>>143603783
>>143607014
shit >>>/diy/999183

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Why the hell are indoor guards a thing and why are they so OP? Will they ever be nerfed into something more fair?

>In Abahs Landing I decided to pickpocket this guy who was sneaking around because I thought it would be humorous
>he caught me and I got a 70 gold bounty
>couldn't afford to pay it so this guard started attacking me
>I escaped long enough to lockpick this mansion (started with a v) to take a shortcut
>As soon as I enter I got another bounty for trespassing because the owner stands right in front of the door
>his unkillable fuck buddy "hireling" upstairs runs down and kills me (bounty's about 700 at this point)
>I think fuck it it's not worth it and choose to respawn at the wayshrine
>Turns out wayshrine isn't a wayshrine but the front fucking door of this place with the same prick staring right at me raising my bounty even higher.
>Spend ten minutes running upstairs, then back down to try lose them and escape through a door except I get hit with their OP ranged spells and brought out of the loading screen and killed because Magplar with like almost no stamina, bounty continually increasing every time he sees me
>Finally get lucky and escape, bounty now at 2500
>Have no stolen goods on me so go up to a guard and let him kill me to clear my bounty
>doesn't clear my bounty, raises it to 2800
>can't go earn some gold in town to go pay it off because guards kill me on site and unable to escape with little stamina and their ranged OP moves
>can't die to clear bounty

Fucking hell this game is bullshit sometimes

>>143607417

I'm in tears anon, how did you find this thread holy shit.

Every post in this thread is golden.

>>143607729
You have to learn to git gud
And avoid guards

>>143607729

>khajittakingashitinahole.jpg

you missed a good opportunity

>>143608641
>>143607729
The AI is shit and the game is way too unforgivable even after death without gold.

So, only way to do justice system stuff properly is either mag/stam blade

I thought you negros said werewolf had passives for outside of werewolf form? all of these passives are for in werewolf form. What are you referring to?

>>143608868
It's just a matter of timing. You have to scout out patterns and move/pickpocket fast. Also invest in Thieves Guild perks.
Also if you don't have 2.8k to pay off a guard you shouldn't be in Abah's Landing, and you don't have to go into town to pay off money as Thieving Dens have merchants, and you can make enough bounty-paying money through fighting shit out in the wilderness

>>143608921
Not sure who said that but the only thing you get outside of werewolf form is a stamina recovery boost provided that the ult is slotted, unless something changed.

>>143609148
I had the gold to pay it off right before I pickpocketed the hypocritical cunt, but I spent it all buying runes becuase I wanted to level my enchanting and thought they would give me some exp, I got fuck all and wasted all my gold.

>>143609384
You should never waste all your gold, keep 10k minimum for various expenses.
This just sounds like you've made one bad decision after another.

>>143609148
>Paying 2.8k for a fucking PvE mechanic.

No thanks m8, i'd rather wait it out.

>>143609560
>not having copious amounts of money from selling ore and raw materials in trade guilds

>>143609560
Hate to break it to you but the majority of this game is PvE

>>143609636
Point is, i could get myself a bunch of upgrade materials or a stack of 100 v16 wood for 2.8k, no way i'm wasting it in some meaningless mechanic.

>>143609880
You could, but instead you were an idiot and got caught stealing multiple times. Now there's a price to pay.

>>143609636
How is ANYONE poor in this game? It's easy as shit to make tons of money and keep tons of money.

>>143609970
Bitch, in the old days you didn't even have to sneak to grab stuff, provisioning got so much harder with the justice system since there's no real way to get ingredients other than stealing and the grocers don't sell everything you need.

>>143610339
>no real way to get ingredients other than stealing
But people sell them at guild traders for jack shit. Hell you can get a full stack an ingredient for like 500 gold.

>>143610339
It's cheap to buy it from guild traders. 200 of an ingredient costs 500 gold and you can level it in about an hour even with the most basic stuff. I leveled it to 50 after the justice system was in, it was easy.
It's not hard, you're just poor and bad at the game.

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>>143597063
Game used to be harder but everyone and their mother bitches about either getting their shit kicked by the first boss in the Fighter's Guild quest line.

There where once a time when veteran rank enemies were bloody brutal, a few patches after release, where I had to play with a friend because while being able to take out an enemy 1 vs 1 was manageable, 2 or more and I'd get my shit kicked it in mere seconds. Enemies these days are a joke, and even bigger joke with champion points.

I wish there was a way to select that you'd play the game without champion points at all, in very much the same way you can play PvP without champion points. How great wouldn't it be to go trough the veteran dungeons and know that your ragtag group of strangers may not be able to finish this dungeon despite everyone having pretty good gear because suddenly non of you have that 25% extra magicka regen any more.
> But you can queue without any champion points already!
Yea but getting carried by people who have their CP enabled takes away the challenge.

If you have to explain it ingame just make the bloody Price of Plot come up with a bullshit excuse to steal back your soul temporarily, Molag Bal is basically a horned Deus Ex Machina. Just call it "Shoul Shriven" mode enabled and give people a bigger chance to drop better gear.

>Molag Kena helm being sold by vendor

ahahahahahhhahahahaahaha

>>143611264
There would need to be much more rebalancing since the dungeons are catered to players with high CP and well, you know how long it took ZOS to finally make non CP campaigns.

>>143611848
Yea but a man can dream. There's so much shit that already should have been in the game such as spell making you're wondering if there isn't more than 20 guys working on the game these days.

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no, what they need to do is remove the CP cap, and make CP character specific.

This would fix the game fucking alt casual pandering shit

hello is this game fun?

>>143614545
just remove the cp cap and keep it alt friendly

>>143614819
Its solo pve is kind of like a watered down TES game, it does feel very much like a hybridized single player/mmo in this sense. If you enjoy TES games you may well like it. There are traces of what could be a really good experience, like with the justice system. Its one sided and gimmicky, but how many mmos let you ransack peoples houses in towns like you can in a TES game? When i first started playing i spent a couple days barely even going out of town, just running around stealing stuff.

Grouping is kind of fun they have made healing a lot better than it is in typical 3d mmos, though group dynamics are kind of simplistic, and it has a simplistic auto dungeon finder. While dissapointing in its complexity its matched by streamlined experience and as a no hassle low entertainment value sort of thing its certainly not really 'bad' just kind of mundane.

PVP is like a shitter version of the standard daoc style faction war. There is less sense of distance than in a proper rvr zerg game due to the limited ranges and movement abilities in the game, so there areno epic standoffs like you might have encountered in daoc or planetside, or even WAR. Sieges are also short keep flipping affairs and not multi-hour long sieges like daoc used to see. Mounts and the general mobility of players in cyrodill kind of ruin the pacing i think, theres no real strategy to it either, everything is connected in a very predictable straightforward way. That said its a good bit of entertainment if thats not the main thing you are playing the game for.

Honestly in all regards It is mediocre, but it is not terrible in any way either (apart from some lore rape but honestly TES lore is literally in character to say you are modding something in with the creation kit if you have obtained CHIM so you cant be too critical). Its a good place to live in if you are a fan of TES. Im an mmo tripple-expert, at least. and im playing it for now. Get it for $15 somewhere.

>>143615317
reee
fucking ree sir.

I might allow for something like, a total CP amount that is capless, and then each individual character has to regain cp by playing, and the further that character is away from your highest CP score, the faster they earn CP, so you can gain massive early boosts for that character, but cant quite make it as powerful as your main unless you put a lot of effort in to catch it up.

Alts lead to metagaming which is cancer.

>>143396737
Who's /RPer/ here?

>never tanked, start a templar to eventually healtank
>hit level 10, decide to do a few dungeons as dps first to get the hang of it
>join group that's already at the first area of fungal
>they wiped before packmaster
>all level 14-18 doing a vet dungeon for some reason
>tank is DW DK, DPS runs away from group when getting aggro
>end up healtanking the whole thing as a fresh level 10 with white sword and shield

Why was that so much fun
Is that the best this game will offer?

Also, is the best way to level undaunted to just keep doing random dungeons, or should I just kinda do them once for the quests? Want to get that ranged taunt because slowly running to some dumbass dps that's retreating to the start of the dungeon with aggro is really annoying

>>143616795
this one is

What makes this game run so poorly? I can play every other MMO well above max at 60 fps but this game chugs into the 30 or 40s near cities or certain areas.

>>143617154
maybe you should upgrade to a console

>>143611264
I miss the old quest line boss fights. I typically would up dying at least once in those fights. Now the bosses are often easier than the regular mobs.

>>143614545
Just remove CP desu.

>>143618210
ok, and raise the level cap to infinity with a sharp exp curve

i hate mmos that have power collect in an inverted pyramid.

>>143593946

No one actually answered this question, plis.

I want to know if I'm losing more stats than I'm gaining by using a level 26 set of crafted gear in scaled dungeons at level 36.

How does the scaling work?

>>143620190
>How does the scaling work?

As far as i know It scales perfectly up to 10 levels different, and then tapers off.

So 26 at 36 should be just fine, but at 37 you will start to get some penalty. How much i dont know. Ive read that people who only play bwb and thus are being scaled at all times just make a new set every 10 levels

Anyone got a good nightblade build?

>>143620190

Penalty starts as early as the next two levels, anon here >>143621414 is wrong, you won't lose much power really, but you won't be exactly optimal.

You can totally keep that gear until lvl 50 and merely upgrade your weapons on the way.

>>143622572
>Penalty starts as early as the next two levels,

Are you sure? I can only find two scaling descriptions on the internet. A very old one where set stats and food dont even scale (other than % based bonuses), and one describing scaling with a 'level bracket' system that says 10 levels is where it starts falling off

where are all the mechanics of this documented?

>>143622950
I'm just talking from experience, i re roll many characters to play in BWB and you usually want your gear to be your same level to get the most out of your build since if you outlevel your gear your stats will worsen.